INTERVIEW: Claudia Jordan & Erica Cobb Talk Mess, Misunderstandings, Hard Wigs, Penile Averages + More

Summary

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Title: INTERVIEW: Claudia Jordan & Erica Cobb Talk Mess, Misunderstandings, Hard Wigs, Penile Averages + More
Date: August 26, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Special Guests: Claudia Jordan (media personality, actress, podcaster), Erica Cobb (host of Accidentally Informed Podcast)

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Overview

This episode features a lively conversation with Claudia Jordan and Erica Cobb, co-hosts of the new podcast "Accidentally Informed." The duo join The Breakfast Club to discuss their partnership, the themes of their show, handling hot topics and messiness in media, career trajectories, relationships, and the dynamics of being outspoken Black women in both traditional and new media spaces. The conversation is unfiltered and honest, touching on everything from podcasting and live shows to dating, gum reduction surgery, “hard wigs,” and even the international rankings of average penis sizes.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Accidentally Informed Podcast – Origins and Dynamic

[02:54–06:47]

• Claudia and Erica explain how their podcast came together—a mix of similar backstories and chemistry.
• Erica Cobb: “We have very similar backstories. She did radio…we have very diverse demographics for being two Black women. It just accidentally came together.” (03:30)
• Claudia is described as “the star” while Erica is happy to play support and handle production.
• The balance between “ratchet righteous” and “classy” personalities is a theme.

2. The Importance of Live Podcasting

[06:47–08:07]

• They intentionally record live for better energy and real-time listener interaction.
• Curly (Claudia): “The energy is just different when you go live…we want to be more Interactive with the listeners, see what they’re saying and respond in real time.” (06:56)

3. Hot Topics, Gossip vs. Substance

[08:11–11:25]

• The show covers a range: politics, relationships, and “mess”—like “The View said by Black women.”
• Claudia and Erica discuss frustration over audiences gravitating toward gossip, even when they claim to want “elevated conversations.”
• Claudia: “People say they want elevated conversations, but it’s always celebrity gossip that gets all the hits, unfortunately.” (08:14)
• Guests and timely topics are a key to their show’s appeal.

4. Notable and Favorite Guests

[10:13–11:14]

• They mention Angela Oakley and Speaker Hakeem Jeffries.
• Claudia offers sharp criticism: “Hakeem is a puppet. Hakeem’s not doing anything unless Chuck Schumer tells him to.” (11:05)

5. Viral and Messy Topics: Penis Rankings

[11:25–13:19]

• They recount a viral episode discussing global rankings of penis size.
• Claudia: “America ranks 59th in penis size. …I did a ranking of like…Americans are really arrogant, especially where they stand on the scale.” (11:42)
• Banter about personal dating preferences follows, blending humor and honesty.

6. Relationships and Dating—Black Love, Preferences, and Pressure

[13:24–17:26]

• Claudia shares about her dating dry spell and frustrations with relationship dynamics when a partner loses his job.
• Discussion about Black women feeling pressured to “fix and save the world” in relationships.
• Both hosts explore their dating preferences, with Claudia stating: “I want a Black man,” and Erica married to a white Canadian.

7. Bisexuality, Gender, and DMs

[17:43–18:32]

• Claudia jokes about lesbians sliding into her DMs after each Breakfast Club appearance.
• Hosts clarify preferences with humor: “Would you date outside your gender?” “No, I want a Black man.” (17:48)

8. “Hard Wigs” and Visual Presentation in Black Culture

[46:12–49:09]

• Becoming a point of humor and cultural commentary: “white men love those synthetic wigs…the hard wig, soft life.” (46:24)
• Erica provides a thoughtful breakdown: “Black hair is definitely rooted in hierarchy…the style is a silent indicator of your socioeconomic status.” (48:00)

9. Career Journeys – Radio, Podcasts, and Empowerment

[34:12–40:06]

• Erica’s shift from radio to content creation stemmed from a desire for more control and creative freedom.
• Critique of how radio sidelines Black women’s voices—Claudia: “You had a lot of program directors who took the personality out of radio.” (37:03)
• Both criticize misogyny and the lack of authentic roles for Black women in morning radio.

10. Dealing with ‘Mess’ and Social Media Drama

[24:16–33:36]

• Claudia describes why she discusses personal relationships and celebrity stories publicly: to unpack real-life dynamics for listeners.
• She addresses backlash for discussing Tracee Edmonds and Karrueche Tran, emphasizing her “girls’ girl” loyalty and arguing for grown, honest conversations between women.
• Claudia: “Women need to stop getting mad at each other when these things happen. Be grown…there’s nothing wrong with having a conversation.” (25:17)
• Erica: “It’s all fame or shame. It’s all the same game.” (33:39)

11. Family, Upbringing, and Approaches to Humor

[40:51–42:07]

• Claudia and Erica relate their ability to “take a joke” and the tough-love, roasting culture in their families.
• Erica’s upbringing (her father from North Carolina) is recounted to explain her resilience and ability to shrug off teasing.

12. Experiences of Interracial Dating

[42:10–44:26]

• Erica shares family stories illustrating the learning curve when her Black southern father met her white Canadian husband. Ultimately, “he loves my Italian husband from Canada.” (43:10)
• The women debate preference, black love, and whether cultural signals (like “gum reduction”) make a difference in how they’re perceived by Black men.

13. Industry Gossip and Behind the Scenes in Film & Radio

[53:39–56:58]

• Claudia highlights her acting work, including a hotly anticipated sci-fi film Run with a majority Black and Brown female cast.
• She jokes about her notoriety on TV platforms and ambitions for an award show—the “Tubies”—for low-budget classics on Tubi.

14. Live Events and Building Fan Community

[57:01–57:59]

• Announcement of their first live show, October 15 in Denver, with plans for a mini tour.
• Erica shouts out their listeners, “Informers,” aiming to connect IRL.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Claudia Jordan (on media expectations):
  “People say they want elevated conversations, but it’s always a celebrity gossip that gets all the hits, unfortunately.” (08:14)

• Erica Cobb (on show balance):
  “She kind of, when she goes left, she brings me a little bit with her, and then I can bring her a little bit with me on the side. We just respect that balance.” (06:18)

• Claudia (on viral mess):
  “America ranks 59th in penis size…thank you for the fun fact!” (11:45)

• Claudia (on talking about friends):
  “Anyone that knows me knows I am a girl's girl. I'm a girl's girl and I ride hard for the people that I rock with.” (24:35)

• Erica Cobb (on culture and hair):
  “Black hair is definitely rooted in hierarchy…It’s a silent indicator of your socioeconomic status.” (48:00)

• Claudia (on radio’s treatment of Black women):
  “You could be paying a good amount of money to just be someone’s laugh track or just be in a support role, and it’s a lot of misogyny.” (37:22)

• Claudia (on podcast/live shows):
  “None of these successful podcasts, TV shows, radio shows, talk shows are about the topics. They are about the relationship with you guys.” (40:06)

• Erica (on “fame or shame”):
  “Fame or shame. It’s all the same game…when you're getting it, you don't get to choose necessarily how that energy is going to come in what form.” (33:42)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:54–06:47] – Podcast origin, Claudia & Erica’s chemistry.
• [06:47–08:07] – Going live: the energy and interaction.
• [08:11–11:25] – Topics, frustrations with gossip > substance.
• [11:25–13:19] – Viral “penis size rankings” and reactions.
• [13:24–17:26] – Claudia’s dating life, fixing partners, Black love.
• [24:16–26:11] – Addressing social media drama (Tracee Edmonds, Karrueche).
• [33:36–34:12] – “Fame or shame” discussion.
• [34:12–40:06] – Radio, content creation, and empowerment.
• [46:12–49:13] – “Hard wigs,” hair hierarchy, and beauty standards.
• [53:39–56:58] – Claudia’s movie projects and “Tubies.”
• [57:01–57:59] – Live show announcement and community building.

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The conversation is candid, irreverent, and sprinkled with inside jokes and blunt honesty. Claudia and Erica model what they preach: open communication between friends, Black women supporting each other, and unfiltered commentary on everything from politics to pop culture to personal pet peeves.

The hosts and guests critique the entertainment industry but maintain humor and humility. They celebrate the importance of chemistry in any successful media endeavor, highlight the unique pressures Black women face, and encourage listeners to look beyond headlines for nuanced truths.

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Listen to Claudia and Erica’s "Accidentally Informed" podcast every Wednesday at 5pm Central on YouTube Live, or wherever you get your podcasts. Their first live show is set for October 15 in Denver.

Transcript

[Erica Cobb]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Maya]

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[Claudia Jordan]

No, no, we're not doing that this season.

[Maya]

Oh, well, this season we're leveling up.

[Claudia Jordan]

Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not gonna wanna miss it.

[Curly]

My name is Curly.

[Maya]

And I'm Maya.

[Curly]

Get in here.

[Maya]

Listen to the Super Secret Bestie club on the iHeartrad podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Hope Bryant]

It's Black Business Month, and Money and wealth podcast with John Hope Bryant is tapping in. I'm breaking down how to build wealth, create opportunities, and move from surviving to thriving. It's time to talk about ownership, equity, and everything in between. Black and brown communities have historically been last in line. Let me just say this AI is moving faster than civil rights legislation ever did. Listen to Money and Wealth from the Black Effect podcast network on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get podcast.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime.

[Erica Cobb]

On the new podcast, America's Crime Lab. Every case has a story to tell, and the DNA holds the truth.

[DJ Envy]

He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen, I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[Claudia Jordan]

This technology's already solving so many cases.

[Erica Cobb]

Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Curly]

So what happened to Chappaquiddick?

[Maya]

Well, it really depends on who you talk to.

[Narrator]

There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.

[Maya]

Left a woman behind to drown.

[Narrator]

Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Maya]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Curly]

Hold up.

[Claudia Jordan]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody.

[Erica Cobb]

It's DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lon LaRosa is here as well, and we got some special guests in the building.

[Claudia Jordan]

Yes, indeed.

[DJ Envy]

We got Claudia Jordan. She's back. Welcome back.

[Curly]

Hey, good to be back.

[DJ Envy]

Erica Cobb, host of Accidentally Informed Podcast. Welcome, ladies.

[Curly]

Good to see you, fam. What's up, y'? All?

[Unidentified Male Host]

Good morning.

[Claudia Jordan]

How are you?

[Curly]

I'm I'm tired. I haven't had sleep in a few weeks, so. Yeah.

[Claudia Jordan]

Why?

[Curly]

Cause I'm, like, really busy. We're doing this podcast. I got a movie coming out that's. There's a premiere tonight. Well, there's a premiere in New York.

[Erica Cobb]

Okay.

[Curly]

So a lot. A lot going on.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Amazing.

[Claudia Jordan]

So where do we start? You want to start the podcast? The movie.

[Curly]

Yes, podcast.

[Claudia Jordan]

Okay.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Podcast Claudia got a lot going on. Good, good. That's what's up.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Accidentally Informed.

[Curly]

Yes.

[Unidentified Female Host]

The name is great for the timing of everything that happened in the media right now. How did you guys come up with the name and why?

[Curly]

Erica came to Dallas to reach out to me, and she. She said, you know, when people say, I need to talk to you about something, that automatically triggers me. I'm like, what the fuck did I do? And then she's like, no, I have a proposal I wanna do. I wanna work with you. And it just came about. And the Accidentally Informed title is about. You know, we kind of focus on politics a lot in, like, social issues, but no one wants to hear that. So I want it to be entertaining, where you are accidentally informed in the process of being entertained.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah. I think there was this clip that when I was doing my daytime talk show, a Daily Blast Live that went viral about people at the top collaborate, people at the bottom compete. And I thought that that was just a platitude that most people understood, but I thought that this was a really great time to put that in action. My manager, shout out to Giselle, said to me, you know, you had Claudia on your podcast, Because I do come back as well, and. And you guys have such great banter. And I was like, yeah, because we have very similar backstories. She did radio as well. We both hosted television shows, and we have very diverse demographics for being two black women. And so working with her, it just all kind of accidentally came together. But it's been great.

[Curly]

And she's so well spoken.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yes, she is.

[Curly]

She's the classy one. And y' all know me.

[Claudia Jordan]

You classy, too.

[Curly]

When I talk balance.

[Claudia Jordan]

Ratchet righteous.

[Curly]

Exactly. I'm the one who gets in trouble a lot, though. You know what I mean? Like, I've been canceled, like, 20 times.

[Claudia Jordan]

That's fun, though.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Even with her being ratchet righteous. Did you ever think about it, like, oh, my gosh, I don't know. Did you have any hesitation or were you just, like, all in with it?

[Erica Cobb]

You know, I have spent my entire career in ensembles from radio to television, and no one ever has a Problem with diversity when it comes to gender or socioeconomics or race. But for some reason, when we talk about two black women in the same space, that tends to bring up some issues, internalized issues that we like to talk about.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Sorry, wait, what did you just say? So I can get smart to him?

[Claudia Jordan]

Wow. You wasn't paying attention to her.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I have a real thing happening right now.

[Curly]

My mom.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I have a real thing happening right now. It is no disrespect to you.

[Claudia Jordan]

That is great.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I have a life thing happening right now.

[Claudia Jordan]

Wow.

[Unidentified Female Host]

But please, because I just need a reason to get somebody.

[DJ Envy]

If you need to handle your life, you just have to step out if you need to.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Not yet. I might have to in, like, 10 minutes.

[Erica Cobb]

Okay, well, sending you love.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Thank you.

[Erica Cobb]

Just for everything to work out.

[Claudia Jordan]

Don't send her no love after. She wasn't listening to you.

[Erica Cobb]

No, it's idiot.

[Curly]

There's a reason why you want someone.

[Unidentified Female Host]

In here who doesn't pay attention or care or listen to black women. Typically him. He just had to catch it.

[Curly]

Are you not listening to black. I will say this, Mel man, go back so many years. So much so that he calls me C Murder. That's a nickname from, like, MySpace, right? I text him the other day saying that I have a huge movie coming. I would love to invite him.

[Unidentified Female Host]

What'd he do?

[Curly]

He hit me with a really know you. I never got her. He never returned. You kind of got a little Hollywood. You got Hollywood on me. Did you change your number?

[Claudia Jordan]

I have not changed my number.

[Curly]

Charlamagne.

[Claudia Jordan]

I have not.

[Curly]

We go way back.

[DJ Envy]

Wow, look at him.

[Unidentified Male Host]

So the plug.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You were saying?

[Erica Cobb]

No, I think it's a really. It's an important time for these conversations. It's an important time to really, like, check ourselves. What is it about what's happening in society right now that we're so much harder on ourselves than anyone else could be? So I just think that this has been the perfect opportunity for us to work together. She kind of, when she goes left, she brings me a little bit with her, and then I can, like, bring her a little bit with me on the side. And we just respect that balance. I love the balance.

[Claudia Jordan]

Why y' all choose to do the show live, which I think is great. I think that's like. That's something that a lot of podcasts are going to start doing live, you know, rendition renditions of it. But why live all the time?

[Curly]

The energy is just different when you go live, you know, I mean, and also, like, we want to be more Interactive with the listeners, you know, I mean, like, see what they're saying and kind of respond in real time what they're saying. I always love to go live.

[Claudia Jordan]

That makes you feel like you're on the radio.

[Curly]

It does, absolutely. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Now, Claudia, you're going to be around to do this because you go everywhere. Like, is she going to be in one spot to tape this weekly live? She said, no. No.

[Erica Cobb]

Here's the thing.

[Curly]

Okay.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah. And Claudia is seriously. That was another reason why I wanted to work with her.

[Curly]

She.

[Erica Cobb]

When she says she's going to do something, she's going to do it. And I think that a lot of. Especially for people who are in the creative spaces, you're looking around at people around you thinking, we have a really. We have the chemistry. We have something great. But you need somebody who is going to work as hard as you're going to work. And she.

[DJ Envy]

Claudia Worker.

[Claudia Jordan]

Yeah.

[Erica Cobb]

She's a producer at heart and a talent. And I told her, like, I have a production company. Comeback TV Presents is our production company. I was like, we will wrap ourselves around you in order to amplify what you do so well. And she's the star of our show, to be quite honest. Like, she is. And then I. I play for. And I love doing that.

[Curly]

She's a good friend. She really is.

[Claudia Jordan]

So what's the topics for this week? Like, what would y' all be discussing this week?

[Curly]

This started after the election, so it was definitely catered to the 92%.

[Claudia Jordan]

Got you.

[Curly]

So that was kind of like the spirit of it. So it could be anything like that. It's relationship. It could be politics. It could be hot topics. It's a little bit of everything. Kind of like the View, I guess, and what you guys do as well, similar, you know, like, it's just good conversations. I found, like, when we were doing it, we were recording it before doing Evergreen. That didn't resonate because people. At the end of the day, people say they want elevated conversations, but it's always a celebrity gossip that gets all the hits, unfortunately. You know, it's like that kind of frustrates me sometimes.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Don't nobody want to hear y' all be smart. Which I think is crazy. Right?

[Unidentified Female Host]

It frustrates you that people want the gossip or that. What frustrates you about that?

[Curly]

That that's what seems to resonate with the masses more than anything.

[DJ Envy]

Well, that's what the blogs pick up, right?

[Curly]

That's the blogs pick up. That's what gets the most attention. But everyone claims. Nah, we don't want that. Like, they say they don't want messy reality tv, but the messy ones are the ones that get the clicks, right? That gets the views, and that gets funded. So people say they want that positivity. But when Tia and Tamara had a show and it's all positive, did you see the support like it should have been? No, it wasn't.

[Unidentified Male Host]

They say that because it sounds good. It sounds good to say, oh, we want elevated conversations. We're sick of the same type of thing, same rhetoric. Do y' all have a guest? Yeah.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah. That's been. That's really been a big bonus for us, especially because the guests that Claudia's been able to book have been very timely. So it's nice to. Because we do our rundowns that morning, so we'll go through all the topics, and they're all trending topics. And then the other great thing about it is we have the ability to just use some of these trending topics as, like, touch points, like, this is what the story's really about, and it's about these people. But really, we can apply this to ourselves. We can apply this to society, and that helps out a lot. I think doing it live is really. It's such a gift that people in this room probably don't even think about anymore because you're masters at this craft. But live is not organic for everyone. And if that's a value proposition for us, we definitely need to lean into it, and that's what we've chosen to do.

[Curly]

Who's been your favorite guest?

[Erica Cobb]

Oh, gosh. I can't pick a favorite. Okay.

[Curly]

My.

[Erica Cobb]

I'll say that. Who stands out to me is Angela Oakley, because I didn't realize we had so much in common. We went to the same university at the same time. We're from Chicago.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Where'd you go?

[Erica Cobb]

DePaul University.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Okay.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah. So that was surprising. I really enjoyed her.

[Curly]

I love having the speaker, Minority Speaker Hakeem Jeffries, because, you know, I'm a political nerd. Like, I love talking about Charlemagne. Hates him. You do?

[Claudia Jordan]

I don't hate him. I just don't think he stands for anything. Well, I think that he's. I call him aipac Shakur.

[Curly]

Well, he definitely. We did talk about messaging, and I actually went to the Capitol and had a meeting with him, and we talked about messaging and how I was like, the frustration with the party is y' all have to get more gangster. Like, stop going by the politics of the. The late 2000s, you know, in 2010. And you have to, like, rise to the occasion in the messaging. And he did. I saw him do more afterwards.

[Claudia Jordan]

Hakeem is a puppet. Hakeem's not doing anything. If Shuck Schumann don't tell him to do it. And as simple as that.

[Curly]

But I did. I was very happy that he came on our little podcast, though.

[Claudia Jordan]

Oh, yeah.

[Curly]

Because we can, like, have these conversations, and I feel like, you know, a lot of. A lot of people don't press these folks. You know what I mean? And we do, and we need to do that. We need to be pressing all of them.

[Claudia Jordan]

Envy was. He came in here talking about one of the topics y' all Talked about on July 4, about how, you know, America average manhood size.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Oh, you saw that?

[Claudia Jordan]

No. Envy brought it to my attention.

[DJ Envy]

What did it. Say it again? I didn't hear you.

[Curly]

Wait. From our show.

[Claudia Jordan]

Yes.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

What did I say?

[Curly]

We had the rankings of the penis sizes.

[Unidentified Male Host]

What he gonna try.

[Claudia Jordan]

You know, America ranks 59th in penis size. And I'm like, so what did you think? I didn't know. I was like, thank you for the.

[Curly]

Fun fact judge on the penises that y' all have seen. What do y' all think?

[DJ Envy]

The what?

[Claudia Jordan]

I've only seen mine.

[John Hope Bryant]

Yeah.

[Curly]

First of all, we're gonna go there again. We've already discussed. We've already gone here before.

[Claudia Jordan]

Damn. You seen, like, you just found a goddamn lie. You seen mine?

[Curly]

Wait a minute. Still, Laura, Jeff. They still on the ship.

[Unidentified Male Host]

They still.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You don't like what he did, that he threw bodies on you? You ain't like that, did you?

[DJ Envy]

I'm ignoring him.

[Claudia Jordan]

What intrigued you about that topic?

[DJ Envy]

I don't even know what topic you're talking about.

[Claudia Jordan]

Play stupid.

[Curly]

I did do a ranking of, like. Yeah. Where I said Americans are really arrogant, especially where they stand on the scale. I use the word penis Peni a lot.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah, she. For a while, we couldn't get past the show without her saying penile penis.

[Curly]

It's from my time on the Breakfast Club.

[Unidentified Male Host]

She is literally a female.

[Claudia Jordan]

Sounds like. When you are in denial about having a small penis. Who was number one?

[DJ Envy]

Look at you.

[Claudia Jordan]

You want to go.

[Curly]

Where do y' all think is.

[Unidentified Male Host]

She said you're travel. What do y' all think is number one?

[Curly]

It was like a lat Latin country.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Damn.

[Claudia Jordan]

Really?

[Unidentified Male Host]

Don't you have a. I do, but, yeah, it's, you know, half of him black.

[Curly]

Oh, okay.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yeah, okay. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

This conversation.

[Curly]

Nigeria was up there, too, as well. It was Nigeria, but America is doing really poorly.

[Claudia Jordan]

Damn.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Damn.

[Curly]

I think the president took us down because they, you know, according to Stormy Daniels is very small.

[Claudia Jordan]

Damn.

[Curly]

She brought the numbers down a lot.

[DJ Envy]

Do y' all talk about her love life as well? Because she. She's been.

[Curly]

It's still. Still.

[Erica Cobb]

Shut up.

[Curly]

I have. I've not had sex in 2025. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

January, February, marching.

[Curly]

One person in two years. And that was, like, a long time ago.

[Erica Cobb]

I feel like it's an energy directive.

[Curly]

I don't care anymore.

[Erica Cobb]

It's something.

[DJ Envy]

She had a nice guy here in the city that she was. She was seeing. And then that didn't go.

[Curly]

Oh. Because when he lost his job, he became a little.

[DJ Envy]

Well, you can't call a guy bitching and expecting.

[Claudia Jordan]

He took it out on you.

[Curly]

No, he just. I. Let me not say a bitch. That's kind of rude. But it changed the dynamic in our relationship, and I felt like it was at a time where I was working a lot and it was, like, not good for him. So that is going to put a strain. And y' all ladies know when you're, like, when things are really busy and your man is not feeling good about himself, it definitely hurts the relationship.

[Erica Cobb]

Absolutely.

[Curly]

And not everybody. Yeah. And not everybody. And I. And I understood where he was coming from, like, and I tried, but if you don't feel good about yourself, there's nothing that I could do. I probably shouldn't have just.

[Claudia Jordan]

And you're not even that type. Like, you got a.

[Unidentified Male Host]

You ain't got no money.

[Curly]

No, I've never been like that. That's why I work so hard. So I will always have it.

[Unidentified Male Host]

But he started taking it out on you because you were busy, so I get where your comment came from. Although you didn't mean to say it like that, but I get what you said.

[Curly]

That was kind of mean.

[DJ Envy]

So what do you tell about her love life? What do you tell about dating? Do you have those conversations?

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah, I think, you know. Well, it's an energy thing for me if you're. She's very busy right now professionally. And that does take a toll on your love life, I think. When I think about what has worked for me, and not that I am an expert for by any means.

[Curly]

She's married, though. Happily married.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Oh, I see.

[Unidentified Male Host]

You're not happily married.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah, I've been married for nine years.

[Curly]

And oil and gas money.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah.

[Curly]

And. Yeah. African American.

[Claudia Jordan]

Texas.

[Erica Cobb]

He's Canadian. I. I am. My husband is a white man from Canada. Just to get that out of the.

[Claudia Jordan]

Way, Dr. Umar would not.

[Curly]

Here we go.

[Erica Cobb]

I know.

[Curly]

Okay. With we should get him on.

[DJ Envy]

How did you meet?

[Erica Cobb]

We met through a mutual friend. And, yeah, she was a friend of mine. She ended up working for him and she introduced us. We've been together ever since.

[DJ Envy]

He ain't got no friends for Claudia.

[Erica Cobb]

That's what? That's the thing, cuz. She's asking.

[Curly]

Listen, I feel like everyone's trying to fix me. I'm good where I'm at right now, honestly. This is. You sound crazy, but it's like everyone's like, well, we need to know. I am very happy right now. I've had no drama in two years, you guys.

[Unidentified Male Host]

I have had amazing.

[Unidentified Female Host]

But what if you met a man that didn't bring you drama? Would you be open to that?

[Curly]

Does one exist?

[Erica Cobb]

Yes, one does exist.

[Curly]

I do think that you need someone.

[Erica Cobb]

I'm thinking industry leader for you, but like an industry outside of entertainment.

[Curly]

I just. I feel like. Like now I feel like I've kind of a little bit made a mistake by going so long. Because when you get to a certain point, it's almost like fasting. Like, the first few days is terrible, but then when you get to a certain point, it's like. It almost is, like, good. Like, you're like, no, I'm good. It's very easy now. And it's like the person's gonna have to be. I don't like a lot of people. I just don't like relationship wise. Friends, yes, but relationship wise, a lot of things. Like if you. The spelling, the being ignorant. I just can't do. I can't do it. The missing side. You can't miss the issues. Oh, I was broken up. I have my heart broken in ninth grade. So now it's like, fuck bitches for rest of my life. Like, I'm not giving you therapy at this age. Like, I'm not fixing anyone. I think black women in particular especially, we feel like we have to fix and save the world, and it is exhausting. And I'm not doing it anymore. So the odds of finding someone that's healed, that goes to therapy, that's attractive, are tough. Is it out there? Probably. But I just. I don't want people to think every time I talk about this, I'm pressed, I'm lonely, I can't get a man. If y' all think I can't get a man, you're bugging. I can get a man. It's someone that inspires me that I want. I don't want just anyone.

[Claudia Jordan]

Would you date outside your race?

[Curly]

No, I. I want a Black man.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Does your husband have black friends?

[Erica Cobb]

Yes, my husband does have black friends.

[Curly]

But every time we do. Every time we do this, she need.

[Unidentified Female Host]

To hang with you and your husband. You look so happy, glowing, and the ring is blinking, singing and all the things.

[Curly]

Every time I come here, though, a lot of lesbians hit me up in my DMs. I know they come.

[Claudia Jordan]

Would you date outside your gender?

[Curly]

No. I love my lesbian supporters, but no, I want a black man.

[Unidentified Male Host]

He's so stupid. He ain't even mean to say that. He's so. Damn.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah, because lesbians are women, too.

[Unidentified Male Host]

But, you know, another thing.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Exactly what you mean.

[Unidentified Male Host]

He wants you to be with a trans woman.

[Claudia Jordan]

Never mind. Nothing.

[Curly]

They. A lot of them, they are big supporters of the Breakfast Club, and they find myself. Those people and the people that you put out for me to do only fans with my goddamn feet. They're still, like, trying to ask me to do that. Thank you, Charlamagne.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Somebody just tweeted me about you asking me to tell you to put your feet on only.

[Claudia Jordan]

Well, yeah. Envy had a pencil.

[DJ Envy]

I did not have a page.

[Curly]

What's your page?

[DJ Envy]

No. Somebody would take pictures of my feet every time I. And they made it.

[Claudia Jordan]

Only think how that sounds. If I'm at the beach with my.

[DJ Envy]

Family, they'll take just my feet and post your feet.

[Erica Cobb]

I'm so sorry. I'm gonna have to support you on this.

[DJ Envy]

They do it all the time.

[Erica Cobb]

I will have to support you on this because I found out that I have a website that has my feet on it.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Damn.

[Curly]

Can we see your feet? Are they nice? Really?

[Unidentified Male Host]

They probably.

[Erica Cobb]

There's something.

[Curly]

I am. Are they nice?

[DJ Envy]

I think they're nice. My wife thinks they're nice. You can Google my feet. Charlotte thinks they nice, but.

[Curly]

Oh, my God, here we go again.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Is it wikifeet.com?

[Erica Cobb]

It'S something about, like.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Come on.

[DJ Envy]

But the muffins everywhere.

[Erica Cobb]

So it's showing. Like, it's like boots.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Wow.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Pageants.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah. I used to do our fitness competition.

[Curly]

Yes.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah, I. I was very into fitness competitions for, like, four or five years. Wow.

[Curly]

Erica's such a good friend, too. I'm so glad we're working together. My birthday happened in April, and they hooked me up. Like, we went to Vegas. She had, like, high photographers, spent all this money and, like, just, like, made it so, like, you're. You're. You're a real one. You really are.

[Erica Cobb]

Well, you are, too. I appreciate it.

[Unidentified Male Host]

You know what I noticed? And then also, and getting to Know Claudia over the years, right? What I noticed is you gotta know how to take a joke.

[DJ Envy]

Hold on. How many conversations you having over there?

[Unidentified Male Host]

I don't know what they doing in the back of the class.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I'm sorry.

[Unidentified Male Host]

They're very rude right now.

[Curly]

I don't know what they doing.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Right.

[Unidentified Male Host]

So what I've noticed about Claudia is, yeah, you. She also needs somebody that's going to take a joke right, too, because she a little comedian, too. She will roast your ass whether you her man or not. I'm the same way.

[Curly]

And you got to be able to.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Come back with it. She don't like nobody that's going to get up all that extra.

[Erica Cobb]

That's.

[Unidentified Male Host]

That's what I love about it.

[Curly]

Even my friends. Like, I feel like in my family, that's how my family was. Like, no one was a professional comedian. But walking into the family reunion, like, whoever you brought was gonna get roasted by grandma or grandma's aunt. Like, they talk shit. Like, before you even in the house, they're like, oh, look how big his head is. And they just talk shit. Oh, they clown your job like they don't care. But that's how they show love. Like, we weren't the mushy, I love you hugging you type of family. Like, they roast you, but that's like, no one else can roast you. It's like the family can do it.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Right?

[Unidentified Male Host]

Right.

[Curly]

Yeah, but she's really good about that because I've definitely made some jokes on the podcast about her. Yeah. Well, she told me she had a big makeover.

[Erica Cobb]

Oh, yeah.

[Curly]

And she revealed to me that she used to have really big gums.

[Erica Cobb]

And so do you have big gums?

[Curly]

No, you don't. You hooked it up. You worked it out.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Hey, yo.

[Curly]

She did okay. She got a mustache, big gums. I did something else.

[DJ Envy]

A mustache.

[Curly]

How do you have accessory on your gums?

[Claudia Jordan]

There you go, Laura. Now you asking the question.

[Curly]

We got the journalist here.

[Claudia Jordan]

Now what?

[Curly]

You had them burnt, right?

[Erica Cobb]

Burnt, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

That's a different type of money right there.

[Erica Cobb]

So I read a hyper. So it's a thing called hypermobile upper lip. This. A lot of people have this. And what they'll do is they'll flip the gum, they'll chisel the bone, and then they do an actual laser so that you get like, what I have now.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yeah.

[Erica Cobb]

And so then I got veneers, because that's what. What happens.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Well, you're super freaking beautiful.

[Curly]

Pretty, though.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yes, she is.

[Curly]

Doll face. Like, she looks like a little doll.

[Claudia Jordan]

You are beautiful. I had no idea you could do that. And there's a lot of people who need some gum reduction surgery.

[Curly]

No, I'm trying to think of, like, there's definitely some celebrity that's like, a lot, like, heavy on the gums, light on the teeth.

[Erica Cobb]

I went to someone.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Erica Cobb]

And I went to someone who had done a few black anchors. And so I knew that this was something that Erica, let's.

[Curly]

I need you to come onto the dark side. Who. What? Who would you say needs it? What public figure needs to say Google Claudia. I know.

[Unidentified Male Host]

That's why I actually. Was you hesitant a little bit about doing your podcast?

[DJ Envy]

And what about the mustache? Was that a mustache surgery?

[Claudia Jordan]

I'm so confused. No, that's up. And that should have been the obvious person. That should have been the obvious person. That should have been the obvious person.

[Curly]

Let me say it's. I know. It's like, on the tip of my tongue.

[Claudia Jordan]

Don't do. Don't do it. That's. That's the homie, too.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Celebrities with big guys. And that whole list came up.

[Curly]

I'm not participating.

[Erica Cobb]

I'm not.

[Curly]

I'm not participating in that.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I am not saying.

[Curly]

I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it.

[Erica Cobb]

I can say that it's a terrible surgery.

[Curly]

It was no energy. It was quiet. It was like, sweet. You have a podcast but talk shit about people's gums and look at the energy.

[Claudia Jordan]

They gonna see this and be like, I know they ain't talking about me. I know what they talking about. How about this?

[Curly]

You know who you are.

[Claudia Jordan]

Watch.

[Curly]

How do you.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Claudia, like, making jokes and talking about stuff with your friends? How do you pick and choose where you don't go? Cause they.

[DJ Envy]

She go everywhere.

[Unidentified Female Host]

They was on you recently about the Tracey Edmonds stuff, which is why, though, because people felt like, if that is your friend, why bring the conversation to a public platform?

[Curly]

Because I do commentary for a living. Like, are they retarded? Are they retarded? I'm sorry, no.

[Claudia Jordan]

I'm reading the word. I'm reading the world back.

[Curly]

I'm from the East Coast. Like, the way Eminem says that, the way I. Claudia, that don't mean that. And I'm sick of it. Like, it don't mean that. It does not mean that. I'm not making. I'm not making fun of mentally challenged, like, clinically, you know, diagnosed people. That is like, you're slow. Retardation means to slow down a fire retardant. What does that do?

[DJ Envy]

Slows it down.

[Curly]

Slows it Down So some people are slow.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You are the great balance between righteous and righteous.

[Curly]

I love how you brought.

[Unidentified Male Host]

I did.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Like that how you did.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Cuz she know how.

[Curly]

But yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

How do you know where to go? And it also too. I'm interested to know when you do go there, do you have a conversation with your friends prior like it.

[Curly]

I know my friends really well. All my friends in my Life are like 20 year, 10 year 50. I already know their triggers. Like there's things that I'm a vault about that will never get repeated. If you tell me something like that I know is a real trigger for you, I would never go there. It's things that I know like you're okay with. You know what I'm saying. And as far as that Tracy thing, I just want to say this. Anyone that knows me knows I am a girl's girl. I'm a girl's girl and I ride hard for the people that I rock with. Even Jazz. I was about to fight her ex boyfriend before. Okay. On television. And I'm so happy you're so happily married.

[Erica Cobb]

Thank you so much.

[Curly]

I will be sending him a DM with your wedding picture, period. Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

Were you mad at Karrueche?

[Curly]

No, I like Karrueche. This is the thing, the greater conversation once again on our show. Like you use a celebrity story for the intro into the topic, but it's really about life situations. I was saying I think more women should have conversations with each other before getting mad. Like Tracee approached, saw her out, they know each other. And she asked her like, hey, is it true? And that's that. I think it's very.

[DJ Envy]

Were they still dating at the time? Were they still together?

[Curly]

They weren't. But if you think after 12 years that it was cut like I think she. I think Tracee was actually being respectful. Read between the lines here, ladies and gentlemen. Like, she was like, are you. Because if you are, blah, blah, blah. You know what I'm saying? So I just feel like more women should approach the woman in a calm way before they get angry and go on social media. And she shared that conversation with me. And I did ask her, I said if I mentioned it, but I would keep some parts of myself. She's like, I'm okay with it because I told her the bigger picture I'm trying to convey. Women need to stop being mad at each other when these things happen. Be grown. There's nothing wrong with having a conversation. And the way people took it that Tracy was pressed, she must still want him. It's none of her business and they were trying to qualify it with like well they weren't good friends. I don't think you need to be a good friend of someone to give another fellow black woman all women a heads up. We gotta what does it harm you to say actually yeah we are that's.

[Claudia Jordan]

Good context of what you gave to it because I didn't even know that you had a a question with it like the with the what A Of course not. I didn't know. All I thought was the headline.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You came back to clarify it too.

[Curly]

After yeah but no one posts the clarification right? Yeah they want the clickbait oh messy ass Claudia is running and then you throw Karrueche's name and Tracy's name and then Dion Sanders name. It's going to be a hot topic. And listen, I'm not new to this. I understand that. I knew when I said it was going to be a problem but like the goal is you hope that they will go back and watch accidentally informed watch the whole conversation but rarely because people are the R word. They don't have a attention span anymore. They want it in 15 seconds or less and they can't comprehend like a actual full throat.

[DJ Envy]

There's something special about folks who come through without being asked. Like your coworker surprising you with your favorite coffee just because. Or your friend handing you the aux cord the moment you get into the car. No debate, no fight, just positive vibes. That kind of love. It just hits different and that's exactly the energy AT&T is on with their new guarantee. If there's ever a network interruption, AT&T will proactively credit you for a full day of service. No calls, no emails, no jumping through hoops. It's just handled. It's like the universe saying I got you. Except this time it's not the stars aligning, it's your network. And let's be real, that connection is everything. Whether you're holding down the group chat, checking in on your parents scrolling TikTok, your network's gotta come through. And if there's a problem, AT&T is on the case. No stress, no drama, just real backup when it counts. Credit for fiber downtime lasting 20 minutes or more, or wireless downtime lasting 60 minutes or more caused by a single incident impacting 10 or more towers. Restrictions and exclusions apply. See att.com guaranty for full details. AT&T connecting changes Everything.

[Narrator]

What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth. Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.

[Claudia Jordan]

He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you.

[Narrator]

Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months.

[Claudia Jordan]

The first night was overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you, and we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything.

[Narrator]

Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maya]

The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here, and we're locked in. That means more juicy cheesement, terrible love advice, evil spells to cast on your ex.

[Claudia Jordan]

No, no, no, we're not doing that this season.

[Maya]

Oh, well, this season we're leveling up.

[Claudia Jordan]

Each episode will feature a special Best of Bestie, and you're not gonna want to miss it.

[Curly]

Get in here.

[Claudia Jordan]

Today we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is the diva of the people.

[Maya]

The diva of the people.

[Claudia Jordan]

I'm just like texturex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself.

[Curly]

Okay, that's us. What the heck?

[Claudia Jordan]

That's us. My name is Curly.

[Maya]

And I'm Maya.

[Claudia Jordan]

In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men, and of course, our favorite secrets.

[Maya]

Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Microtura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Curly]

So what happened to Chappaquiddick?

[Maya]

Well, it really depends on who you talk to.

[Narrator]

There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.

[Maya]

Left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president?

[Narrator]

Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.

[Maya]

And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.

[Narrator]

The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Maya]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Curly]

The conversation about it where there was nothing wrong, I don't blame. I'm not. And Tracy's not mad at Karrueche. I love. I think Karuchi's dope. I love that. And, you know, and I. It opened the gates to, like, a conversation. Maybe they weren't dating then maybe it grew into something. Who knows? But I think I love the fact that they had a grown conversation. No one got mad. No tables were flipped. And what is wrong with encouraging that?

[Claudia Jordan]

Absolutely. Did Tracy reach out to you after the fact?

[Curly]

Yeah. She's like, thank you for always having my back. And she's like. And she's like. And she adores Karrueche. Like, to this day, she's not mad at Karrueche. Karrueche didn't steal Deion Sanders from Tracee. And I just want that to be clear. I don't put any fault on Karrueche either. I don't. I just was saying I love that Tracee was on her. Grown woman. You never hear drama about Tracee.

[Claudia Jordan]

I love Tracee Edmonds. We do not celebrate Tracee Edmonds.

[DJ Envy]

She's busy as a classy girl.

[Curly]

She was with us for the birthday celebration. She's so fun. Like, she's not. She could be bougie and snobby and a bitch, and she's not. Like, that girl is, like, so down to earth and cool as hell. Like, you would love hanging with her.

[Erica Cobb]

Well, and also, when we got into what the foundation of this entire story was about, it was about the idea how women are unintentionally supporting the patriarchy by keeping these things close to the vest. Like, that's not. That's in defense of men. And men are already being accused of not being transparent with what the intentions are. So why, as women, would we not want to be transparent with each other about what the intentions are? If you're continuing to keep things close to the vest, it's only helping. What you're saying is destroying you.

[Claudia Jordan]

Damn.

[Curly]

See how she says it? So classy. Yeah. She's like, the cleanup after me. Like, I just say that.

[Erica Cobb]

Ah.

[Curly]

And then she's like, well, actually, doctors say. But yeah, it wasn't. It just really went left. And I just feel like, you know, we gotta just have more of an attention span out here in these streets and listen to a whole conversation and.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Knowing that people only take what they take, right? Cause you know how this works. Why even attempt to clarify after then?

[Curly]

I. For some reason, even after 30 years in this thing, I still care. What? Like I care about being misunderstood or misrepresented, you know, And I still do care. So I will always clarify for the slow people in the back, you know what I mean? Like, in case you didn't. The retards in the rear exactly had the rear tards. And mind you, how do we even find out about Karrueche and maybe a possible Dion situation? His son filmed it and put on social media. So why am I the messy one for commenting on something that y' all rolled out in the media? It's amazing. I didn't sneak a camera in there and get the information and blow up the spot. That would be messy. But when I comment on things, you know, listen, it's all, if they like you, they're okay with your commentary. If they don't like you, it's a problem. You're messy. And guess what? I don't give a. Just watch it and click on it.

[Erica Cobb]

I just feel like it's all fame or shame. It's all the same game.

[Claudia Jordan]

Like, break that down. Fame or shame, it's all the same.

[Erica Cobb]

Fame or shame. It's all the same game. It's just where people are looking for this energy. You're looking for attention, and so when you're getting it, you don't get to choose necessarily how that attention, how that energy is going to come in what form. But ultimately, why are you here? Why are you on this platform? Like, what is the intentionality behind it? Channel that energy into what it is that you want, because you're never going to be able to decide yourself if it's fame or if it's shame.

[Claudia Jordan]

I like that. I like that. You did radio, right, Erica?

[Erica Cobb]

Yes. I started in Chicago at B96, WBBM FM.

[Curly]

Wow.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah. 20 years ago, like, almost now. Yeah.

[Claudia Jordan]

What made you get out of the radio business?

[Erica Cobb]

I didn't really. So I did. I did morning radio. I did in Chicago. Then I moved to Denver, in Sacramento, and I realized that I needed to sharpen another skill set. I have another tool in my arsenal as things shifted with radio, and that was really just kind of a natural transition. I left radio in 2016. I said that I would do a talk show. I booked Daily blast live in 2017. And then that's been it for. Except for the last year where I've Been the CEO of my own production company, Comeback TV Presents.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You said you wanted to lean into more content when you left radio too. Do you feel like it's been more beneficial leaning into content versus being on the radio? Because I had the opposite experience.

[DJ Envy]

Experience.

[Erica Cobb]

Explain that.

[Unidentified Female Host]

So for me, like when being here at the Breakfast Club, I've been able to do things I've never experienced when I was making content on social. But I was also working for tmz, who produces content every single day. So I didn't think that radio would do that for me. But when I read your story, you basically said, radio is dying out. I need to go do what's of the now, which is go create content. And you've been able to be successful or have you felt like it was beneficial for you?

[Erica Cobb]

I. I felt like all of it has been to my benefit for you, Lauren, and I'm very proud of you. Because what you're talking about takes a sense of self starting that a lot of people don't have. You were a content creator before and you didn't have the opportunities that you have now, but you see those opportunities to create content. So it's a little different because sometimes people end up in these roles, whether it's really. It could really be any role, and they don't have the ability to look around at all of the opportunities that they can create for themselves, leveraging their position and their platform. That's the reason why you've been so successful, because that's in you. I don't think it's naturally in everyone. So what I needed to do was get out of a system that was very much telling me, this is who you need to be. This is what you need to be doing in this moment. And then be able to think clearly as a creator to say, hey, these are the things I'm really passionate about and I want to do had I had the ability or the know with all. I mean, it's been 20 years ago and social media. Wasn't social media like that back then. To be able to do what you've been able to do, I mean, what a blessing. And so many, so many people are watching you do that. So, yes, I understand what you're saying, but that doesn't apply to you.

[Claudia Jordan]

And when you say radio is dying, I don't think that radio is dying. I just think that, you know, you had a lot of program directors who took the. The personality out of radio. They wouldn't let a Erica Cobb be Erica Cob. They wouldn't let a Claudia Jordan. Be a Claudia Jordan. So if they take personality out of radio, but then everybody's going to podcast and YouTube and giving you a whole lot of personality. Where do you think people going to gravitate towards?

[Curly]

Yeah, radio. I think, well, radio outside of you guys and maybe, like, maybe one or two other people. Like, this is a different situation that you guys can still be you here. Like, you guys have your personality and all your stuff here. This is a very unique space here at the Breakfast Club. But the average city of. I mean, I. You know, I've been through it with radio and stuff. Like, you know, the character, especially when you're part of an ensemble cast, when it's a male lead, the. The role of a black woman in those situations is usually horrific. Usually you could be paying a good amount of money to just be someone's laugh track or just be in a support role, and it's a lot of misogyny. And radio, like, that is not the safest place for women. Radio, huh?

[DJ Envy]

Not here. You said you felt your safest up here.

[Curly]

I. I did. No, here.

[Claudia Jordan]

It was like, you thought me and if he was gay.

[Curly]

Well, that. That's from the mouth of. Where's that y' all mouth?

[Claudia Jordan]

Whose mouth?

[Curly]

Y' all was talking about y' all every day. Heavy. And you know what his feet look like and all that. Like, I'm like, God damn. Like, y' all wives don't get mad at this. Like, yo, why's let this happen? Like, Jesus Christ, what is happening here? But, yeah, I felt safer because, like, where are the straight men?

[Unidentified Male Host]

You know what I mean? They hitting on each other.

[Curly]

Production. They're all behind the glass experience that.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You had in radio that brought you to.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, don't get her started.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Oh, sorry.

[Claudia Jordan]

You got some good ones.

[DJ Envy]

She got some great ones.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I'm trying to just seem like you've really been through some things.

[Curly]

I'll talk about, you know, I'll talk about my Dallas experience. So I was paired with someone that I didn't really have a relationship with, and he was told he would be lead, and I was told we were co hosts. And when we got there, like, my stories were. They told me my stories were funnier, and he got offended. And there's a radio. You know, I don't know if. I'm sure you guys have the boot camp where you have the big consultants that come in and kind of rework things in your show.

[Unidentified Male Host]

We actually don't.

[Claudia Jordan]

Oh, well, they have it. They just don't sit.

[Curly]

They're like, Y' all just do your thing.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Okay.

[Curly]

Well, they switched it where I was put in the lead position, and that caused a lot of resentment. And it's hard to have chemistry in a small room with you and your co host when there's resentment. I'm sure you guys have all been in position where you had to work with someone where it wasn't popping anymore, and it made it, like, unbearable. It was hell. I remember, like, praying every day walking into the studio, like, please let me get through this day, because I'm not someone that can hide anything in my face and just, like, laugh along with it. And it got really ugly, and it really blew up really, really bad one day where he said a lot of really fucked up shit. And, yeah, that was our last day. We worked together after that.

[Erica Cobb]

And was that on air?

[Curly]

No, but it was like he was overreacting over very small things where if you don't like someone, the way someone breathes will get on your nerves.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yeah.

[Curly]

You know what I'm saying? And then I just feel like we just didn't really have. It wasn't set up properly, happily. But again, I'm happy for every experience.

[Claudia Jordan]

Because, you know, yeah, morning radio is a place where you have to have the right energy. Like, you got to be able to, like, a family. Like, when you walk in the room, somebody gonna be talking, somebody gonna be cracking jokes. I feel like you have to have that type of energy to have a successful morning.

[Curly]

None of these shows are about y' all's topics. None of them. None of these successful podcasts, TV shows, radio shows, talk shows are about the topics. They are about the relationship with you guys. The relationship. And I, you know, every time he says this, you're gonna say that. You know, when Jess says this, you're gonna say that. And that's what people are waiting for. And that's the formula. It's not, oh, today we're talking about, you know, Wendy Williams. It's. It's. Not everyone gets the same topics. We all have access to the Internet, so it's about the relationship. So that's what y' all have to, like, protect. And we protect it. Hang out in real life, you know, and we have, like, we have fun. So when you can. When you know that the person has your back, they really care for you and rock with you, you're not going to take the jokes personally. You know, it's for the greater good of the show, not for. I'm trying to get a jab at you now.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Erica, have you ever taken Any of Claudia jokes to heart, please let me know the truth.

[Erica Cobb]

No, I don't. I. I don't know what it is. I'm just going to blame it on my cheekbones. Okay. People have this sense of like, I'm so, like, innocent and fragile. I'm like, I don't understand. My father, bless his father, give us some thug stories. Roosevelt. Oh, my gosh. My father, Roosevelt. Okay. He's 75 years old. He's from North Carolina, and he has always spoken to me a very strict, stern way.

[Claudia Jordan]

What part of North Carolina?

[Erica Cobb]

He's from Red Springs, North Carolina.

[Claudia Jordan]

Oh, okay. So you heard.

[Erica Cobb]

You know where Red Springs is?

[Claudia Jordan]

No, but I know that you heard cracker a lot.

[Erica Cobb]

I've heard everything.

[Curly]

A lot.

[Claudia Jordan]

You've heard a lot. You've heard the gay slur a lot.

[Erica Cobb]

I've heard.

[Curly]

Really?

[Erica Cobb]

No, not that much. No, no, my dad. No, my dad doesn't say that.

[Claudia Jordan]

Gotcha.

[Erica Cobb]

Um, yeah, but I've heard other things. But it was always just this. This very hard, like, tough love. Very tough. And it was a survival thing.

[Curly]

So you're saying I can go harder on the show?

[Erica Cobb]

Well, I'm not saying that. That's a saying. We understand this line.

[Curly]

I think she wants to give me to give it to her harder.

[Erica Cobb]

We understand this line. Yeah.

[Unidentified Male Host]

How was your dad when he first met your husband? How was it when you bought him?

[Claudia Jordan]

That's a good question.

[DJ Envy]

Southern, father.

[Erica Cobb]

Oh, yeah.

[Curly]

Southern.

[Erica Cobb]

So my father told me when I was in junior high that I could not bring my best friend to the church that we went to. We went to church on the west side of Chicago. And at the time we were living in the suburbs, and I was white. I'm sorry, was your best friend white? He. Yeah, he had. So my dad asked, what's his last name? And I said the last name. And he was like, yes, he Italian race.

[Curly]

It is. Wait, he look Italian.

[Unidentified Male Host]

And I was like, he gagged by the last name.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah, well, it was pretty obvious. And. And he's like, you will never. It's like, patrick, my older brother, has never brought a girl into this home that isn't black. And you will never bring a boy into this home that isn't.

[Claudia Jordan]

Shout out to Roosevelt. Damn.

[Curly]

Wow.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Roosevelt.

[DJ Envy]

And I want you to listen to this story because this is a good one right here, because Charlie might say the same thing. His daughters go crazy. Really?

[Erica Cobb]

So Fast forward about 30 years later, and now he loves my Italian husband from Canada because that's just the way that it worked, you know?

[Curly]

Wow, you'll Love.

[DJ Envy]

If your daughter.

[Claudia Jordan]

Listen, love is love. I don't have any problem with it, but I don't think there's anything wrong with also me saying, this is my preference. I want to see my black daughters with a black man.

[Erica Cobb]

And I think it's. And listen, I love black love. I am the product of black love. My parents have been married for 46 years. Like, I. I understand all of that.

[Curly]

You said black men don't hit on you. Like you said they don't like you.

[Erica Cobb]

Black men generally don't hit on me. No, I.

[Claudia Jordan]

Even after the gum reduction.

[Erica Cobb]

Even after the gum reduction.

[Curly]

Maybe the gums would have.

[Erica Cobb]

I don't know what it is. I'm from Chicago. I've never. I've never gotten hit on by black men.

[Claudia Jordan]

Never of America.

[Erica Cobb]

I am so serious. I am serious.

[Claudia Jordan]

Oh, that beautiful Melanie.

[Unidentified Female Host]

She's so pretty.

[Erica Cobb]

I can think of two black men who have asked me out in my entire life.

[Curly]

I don't get this.

[Erica Cobb]

And it wasn't even, like, a viable situation because one, I was married at that time, and then the other part was like. It was just kind of like a shoot your shot type thing. It wasn't a serious thing, but, yeah, I do not.

[Curly]

Erica, have you had black D?

[Erica Cobb]

No.

[DJ Envy]

What a question.

[Unidentified Male Host]

It's the Canadian sitting home. Like, keep it cute.

[Curly]

Keep it cute.

[Erica Cobb]

I'm not going there. I am not going there.

[Curly]

Wait, but you've seen a black penis before?

[Erica Cobb]

I have seen everything. Okay.

[Curly]

No, no. I specifically want to know about black penis.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Approve of your co op.

[Claudia Jordan]

That's a better question. I'm looking up Canadian penis. Oh, my God.

[John Hope Bryant]

What?

[Claudia Jordan]

Finally on the rankings average, 5.5.

[Curly]

5.5?

[Claudia Jordan]

Yeah.

[Erica Cobb]

What about 5?

[Curly]

That's the average of Canadian peen.

[Erica Cobb]

Oh, well, we don't have to worry about that.

[Curly]

Oh, he's Italian too, so. Yeah, he's good.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yeah.

[Claudia Jordan]

Oh, it does say that men in Canada have a larger average penis size than men in me.

[Curly]

Look how happy she looks. Clearly. Oil and gas money and penis, and he's no problem.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Wow.

[Claudia Jordan]

I can't believe no black men tried to holler at you ever.

[Unidentified Male Host]

I know that.

[Erica Cobb]

It's always been that way.

[Curly]

We're gonna talk about this on the show. I need to know about this. You. I need.

[Erica Cobb]

Well, now it doesn't matter, but I.

[Curly]

Need to know, like your. I need to know your sexual pedigree. You've seen a black. You've seen.

[Erica Cobb]

I've seen everything. I have seen everything. I'm 44 years old.

[Curly]

Have you had one in your hand. Jesus Christ.

[Claudia Jordan]

Question too.

[Curly]

Every day unearthing.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, yo, I need.

[Claudia Jordan]

Cuz.

[Erica Cobb]

You know people love to be un.

[Curly]

I didn't know this about her.

[Claudia Jordan]

I didn't know. I never even heard.

[Curly]

That's hard to believe.

[Claudia Jordan]

I don't believe that's possible. There's no way I look at you, how beautiful you are. No black man has ever tried to holler at you.

[Erica Cobb]

I'm you.

[Claudia Jordan]

So diesel, what was you trying to figure out?

[Unidentified Male Host]

Something like fitness, but still.

[Erica Cobb]

Listen, did you look intimidated?

[Claudia Jordan]

Fitness?

[Unidentified Male Host]

You did the fit. Yeah, but, like, it's even. That's even more attractive. A lot of men like that. You see Papua's baboos jumped all over.

[DJ Envy]

That girl because she's stupid.

[Unidentified Male Host]

You know what I mean?

[Curly]

She's stupid.

[Erica Cobb]

No, I.

[Unidentified Male Host]

You know, I don't know.

[Erica Cobb]

It's never. I don't. I don't know. It's just what it is.

[Claudia Jordan]

I refuse to believe that. But I gotta believe you because you said it.

[Curly]

And she also doesn't have the typical aesthetic for a white man as well, because they usually say, like, hard wig, soft life, like with the white man. And you have like, the great hair, too.

[Unidentified Male Host]

I've had a couple whole wigs.

[Erica Cobb]

Thank you, Ra.

[Curly]

The hard wigs get you. They.

[Claudia Jordan]

They love hearing that about the hard wig, soft life thing. That's crazy.

[Curly]

The white men love those synthetic wigs.

[Unidentified Male Host]

The ones that. Because they want us to be humble.

[Curly]

They're humble.

[Unidentified Female Host]

The ones with no humble.

[Curly]

So you got a good one.

[Unidentified Male Host]

When you got a good wig, you be. We'd be doing too much. Them white men be like, go get that wig from the store.

[Claudia Jordan]

So hard wigs are like a sign of insecurity or something.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Or they just think they keep us humbled in some way.

[Curly]

Yes.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Well, my wigs was crunchy, girl. I was.

[Curly]

I used to be. So why do I want.

[Unidentified Male Host]

No, stop.

[Curly]

I think they think they can want. Maybe they're like, let me fix this. This ratchet girl's life.

[Claudia Jordan]

Yeah.

[Curly]

You know what I'm saying? Let me fix this. She need me. Let me get out of. Like this.

[Claudia Jordan]

Let the experts speak.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, wow.

[Curly]

Wait, hold up. Are you a hard. Are you part of a Hardwick committee?

[Unidentified Female Host]

Hell, no.

[Curly]

I've never seen.

[DJ Envy]

He always goes, this is my hair.

[Curly]

Actually.

[Unidentified Female Host]

He just be on my. He be on me. My wigs do not be hard. I don't even date white men, first of all.

[Curly]

Does she trying to me?

[Claudia Jordan]

No, she don't date white men.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Have you ever seen any of my wigs be hard Claudia, I never saw.

[Curly]

Hard wig because I definitely would have said something.

[Unidentified Female Host]

And you've looked.

[Curly]

Because she's very honest. Yeah, I'm very honest. I would just say, yeah, you had a up wig.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Anything else?

[Claudia Jordan]

No, I'm just waiting on you to talk.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I forget what I was going to say. Oh, they be saying that the hard wigs are, like, the sign of, like, the strong black woman sometimes, too.

[Claudia Jordan]

He trying to change the narrative real quick.

[Curly]

Y' all never heard that, like, the.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Women who, like, have, like, the great. The corporate seat. Oh, black women, they always say that.

[Unidentified Male Host]

They have bad wigs. That's a thing.

[Curly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

That is a conversation.

[Curly]

But why is. We need a deep dive, a documentary maybe into that. I think it's more.

[Erica Cobb]

I would say here it is. Because black hair is definitely rooted in hierarchy.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yes.

[Erica Cobb]

Depending on what type of hair we choose, whether it's like the origin of the hair, if you're talking about weaves and extensions and stuff, or the style of the hair, from braids to, like, straightening your hair.

[Curly]

Yes.

[Erica Cobb]

That is a style silent indicator of your quote unquote, socioeconomic status. It's what you're able to do versus what you're not able to do, what you are privileged in versus what you're not privileged in. It's a silent thing. I used to own, be part owner of a hair extension company, and that was always the prevailing sentiment. If you wanted something that was considered, like, you know, mainstream and what everyone asks, aspirational, if you will, then we were expected to basically remortgage your home in order to get this quality, you know, type thing, the things that women would do because they knew that it was signaling to the world that, hey, I'm here. I've made it because I'm able to do this to my hair.

[Curly]

I think we put in too much effort, personally, especially for what's out here. Like, I'm sick of it.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You are depleted of these women.

[Curly]

You are bum ass niggas.

[Claudia Jordan]

And y' all getting your head done.

[Curly]

Like, why are we spending so much money? Ladies, I would like to call for a national boycott. Like, we need to bring. We're looking too flattered.

[DJ Envy]

Boycott of what? Wigs and men.

[Curly]

Of, like, just putting so much into our appearance and looks like, they show up. Beijing be fucked up. They got the white line stomachs. Like, y' all don't put any effort. Men just get to show up. And we are so judged on our looks. Even on radio. It's crazy. Like, it's crazy. Like, why do we put so much effort. You ever go out with your friends and get ready to go to a club or party and you look like, like you're about to be in a pageant?

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yes.

[Curly]

And then you see what shows up?

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yes.

[Curly]

Plaque sleep in the eye. Breath, damn breath Be terrible black shit.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Underneath the nails, everywhere in the cracks.

[Unidentified Female Host]

It's like you said on one episode recently that it was like a fine ass actor that was texting you. I was gonna figure something out.

[Curly]

Oh yeah, it was texting me. They text me now. They, I mean she like, look, I.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Ain'T saying I ain't got no hoes.

[Unidentified Female Host]

He didn't have no plaque.

[Curly]

Yeah, but she didn't have a wall. I just don't want people to talk about themselves in the third person, you know what I'm saying? Like male actors are like that. Male actors a lot of times do that. A lot of male actors are like, they, they're good looking. But you know, a lot of times it's that what he said, like, yo.

[Claudia Jordan]

You don't want to go out with me. Like he. But he said his name like you don't want to go out with such and such. He's talking about himself.

[Curly]

It's kind of like just referring to themselves in the third person. Like, you know what I mean?

[Unidentified Male Host]

I'm him.

[Curly]

Like I'm not doing that. No, not la.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Where he from?

[Curly]

I'll tell you off camera, who don't.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Want to tell you no, because you can. Cuz sometimes depending on where men are from too, they're the arrogance. Like I feel like a lot of.

[Curly]

Nevermind.

[Claudia Jordan]

A lot of what?

[Unidentified Female Host]

The arrogance is different depending on where men are from sometimes.

[Curly]

What do you think the most arrogant men are from?

[Unidentified Female Host]

I feel like California.

[Curly]

Yes.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I was at men in la. They think that God's gift to the world.

[Curly]

They do, they do.

[Unidentified Female Host]

And I'd be like, what?

[Curly]

When I first moved out, there was a lot of really handsome in shape tall men out there. And then it just like the source went away. It just got worse and worse and worse. And they're still arrogant. Like they're still fine.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I was told that it's because they grow up with all these beautiful women around them all the time. So they're not press, so they give you that energy.

[Curly]

I got called the, the most on the west Coast. Like they holler at you like I've been to me, what's up? And you say, oh no, thank you all that. You ain't all that. I'm like, oh damn, welcome to California.

[Unidentified Female Host]

So we'll never know from la.

[Curly]

He's not. It's. Isn't nothing, though. And he just. It was like. No. Just reaching out. I'm. But then again, I am everybody's homegirl. And I have been meeting a lot of people lately that say, man, back in the. I was trying to get at you. I'm like, you were? So maybe these people are hitting on me and I just don't even realize it full time because I. You have to make it really obvious me. Or I'm thinking, like, we're just cool because I'm cool.

[Claudia Jordan]

I think the microphone might scare people away.

[Curly]

They think I'm gonna talk about them.

[Claudia Jordan]

Exactly.

[DJ Envy]

But you always do, though.

[Curly]

I don't. What names have I ever said?

[Claudia Jordan]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Never said names.

[Curly]

Never got a name from me. The only person y' all really know I was really with was KJ because we did a TV show together. That's. For the most part, like, for the most part, it's all speculation, lies and rumors about all this long list of men. I'm like, really?

[DJ Envy]

If somebody was dating you. Right.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And I remember she came in one day and was like, yeah, I was waiting for sex all night, and he didn't give me none.

[Curly]

Right. That's why I broke up with the next day.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You said that on air?

[Curly]

Yes.

[Unidentified Male Host]

That's Claudia.

[Curly]

It was Valentine's Day, and I knew. But that's because I knew he didn't.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Give you sex on Valentine's Day.

[Curly]

We were about to break up. I think he was creeping with the ex. I think he was like, you know, felt guilty, and I was here. What we gonna say? Sorry.

[DJ Envy]

I was gonna say, but if somebody hears their story all the time.

[Curly]

Why.

[Erica Cobb]

Is he already in the position. Proposition to be propositioned for sex? Because here's the thing. We always talk about the microphone and these platforms in terms of a deterrent, but that's also what brought a part of. What brought you here. It's a part of.

[Curly]

You knew I was on a mic.

[Erica Cobb]

Before you hollered, if you're good for the ride, that when things are going well and you're a part of this narrative, you have to expect, like my livelihood, the way that I make my living hasn't changed. So just because we broke up, so now you're exempt. I think it's one thing to have the conversation and give all the details with the names and descriptors.

[Curly]

I don't do that.

[Erica Cobb]

But to talk about your life, I mean, that's just what we do.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yeah.

[Curly]

I don't Trash the guys I've been with, like you. You. I've never, like, put a name out there and, like, really went in like that.

[DJ Envy]

You never said nobody's name.

[Curly]

You know what I mean?

[Unidentified Male Host]

Listen, it is a man out there that really a man in particular that we all know that still want Claudia, that wanted her back in the day. I think she was talking to him back in the day. He a singer. He be doing all types of on stage. He trying to show he loves me. You know what I mean? He can't say no names. Can't say no names.

[DJ Envy]

You gave it him.

[Curly]

You can't guess.

[Claudia Jordan]

You did his exact name. Have you been playing charade? Like, get him on.

[Curly]

We've been playing for, like, 28 years now. Like, he's truly, like, he supports everything I do. Like, he reposted. Actually, I have a movie coming out on the 29th. It's in theaters. It's called Run. It's a sci fi.

[DJ Envy]

Are you shooting kids?

[Unidentified Male Host]

I saw the trailer.

[Curly]

That's what I invite you to. So it's black and brown women as leads in a sci fi movie. It looks super expensive. Like, it looks like a $30 million picture. It starts like, girl, strip, and then it leads to, you know, we're up in a cabin, and then the earth gets invaded. And the special effects. I want to shout out juice. Adora did some amazing stunts in this. She did so good. So it's. It's great. That's why I'm out here, actually. The premiere is tonight.

[Claudia Jordan]

I saw that. I don't know why I thought it was a Jordan Peele movie when I first saw the trailer.

[Curly]

Exactly.

[Unidentified Male Host]

But that's me too, because the trailer has been all over the place. I've seen it a few times on a few of the blogs. I'm like, my girl is a devil.

[Curly]

And it's not on tubi. Not that this ain't wrong with tubi, right? I feel like I'm one of the TV greats for my scene with the child.

[DJ Envy]

Are you shooting any kids in this one?

[Curly]

I don't shoot any. I want to let y' all know my update. So the TV movie where I shot the kid, it went everywhere, right? Thank you for Breakfast Club. Then I did another movie called do it for the Gram.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Why?

[Curly]

I did shoot teenagers. They were in college, so I'm moving up. My last film, I have another one called the Handyman that dropped this month. I'm not killing any children or any teenagers, so I'm actually getting to an older demographic. So Anytime you see me in a black hoodie, I'm killing somebody.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Okay.

[Claudia Jordan]

I want to see you shoot somebody in Tubi with just your fingers, but bullets.

[Curly]

Listen, I'm with the shits, though. Yes. I don't get embarrassed ever. I think that stuff is so funny. I think that's what Tubi is for. The beautifully crafted movie. Like Chris Stokes, he has a huge deal with them. They do beautifully done movies where everything's right, there's no continuity issues. But the lower budget films where you walk in with jeans and then you walk out with some black pants on, it's so fun to watch. I want. I'm putting my idea that I want to make an award show called the Tubies where we highlight the best of the worst.

[Claudia Jordan]

Exactly.

[Curly]

I work for best because you said.

[Unidentified Male Host]

All I want is you and all I want is you two. They my movies with her, I'm like.

[Claudia Jordan]

I got a story for you.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Dear Frank. Yeah, that's Dear Frank.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

With Columbus Short and Brian Webb, Jessica hosted. You'd be a great host. You'd be good for the TV to be down.

[Curly]

You already know. I'm gonna send you the treatment. And we're gonna do it. I'm announcing it here in the Breakfast Club. And Erica Cobb's gonna do all the red carpet stuff.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Yeah.

[Curly]

And you're gonna interview all the actors. All. Because all of Detroit is in all the movies. Right. That's. That's the Hulk. Cleveland.

[Claudia Jordan]

I need to do it in Detroit.

[Curly]

That's the Tubi headquarters to be is.

[Unidentified Male Host]

The nigga version of Netflix.

[Curly]

It really is. But. But it gives a lot of opportunities to people. Some should have them, some should not. But no, they should all have them because I feel like there's a place for all kinds and different levels. Everything doesn't have to be the Julia Roberts, top tier, Angela Bassett. There's also people, like from the neighborhood that want to do films. And that's a place where you can do them and get your stuff on there. But please, I need y' all to go see Run. We need to run those numbers up because the first two weeks of a film, it means a lot. And then we can get more black products.

[Unidentified Male Host]

When is the premiere?

[Curly]

The 20. We have a LA premiere. Well, I don't know if this is going to air tomorrow. Okay, so tonight. Well, last night in New York was our New York premiere. And then we have LA on Wednesday, the 27th, and the movie drops nationwide. Get your tickets on Fandango everywhere. And it's Friday, and I'm super Excited. I want y' all to see what happens to me in this movie. Yes, I will say this. People that don't like me, you're gonna be very happy. You don't want to run it back and run it back. And clip. Yeah. That finally got what she deserves.

[Claudia Jordan]

Her.

[DJ Envy]

And where can they hear your podcast? Something about the podcast.

[Erica Cobb]

Well, you can. Or hear us every Wednesday at 5pm Central on YouTube live. And you can also get it anywhere. You listen to your podcast on Apple, Spotify, all those things. However, we do have an announcement.

[Curly]

Oh, yes.

[Erica Cobb]

Yes. On Wednesday, August 15th, we will.

[Curly]

October. Say it again.

[Erica Cobb]

On Wednesday, October 15th, we will be doing our first live show. So that will happen in Denver at Dude IDK Studio, which is where we all started. So we're really excited about that. And Informers, we want to know where you are so that we can come out and see. See you in person. So hit us up, let us know and we'll get our.

[Curly]

We're gonna do a little mini tour and bring it, because I feel like it's a great way to connect with your fans and your listeners to, you know, be in person with them. It's gonna be a lot of fun. And Denver's a lot of fun. They have really good weed out there.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Okay. So Informers is what? The fan base. That. That's y' all fan base. Informers. I love that.

[Erica Cobb]

Yeah. Congratulations themselves. Thank you.

[Curly]

It's been a lot of fun.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, ladies, for joining us.

[Curly]

Thanks for having us. Charlamagne, return my text, please.

[Claudia Jordan]

I did. I just liked it.

[Curly]

You used to be like. You said, hit me back. I know. Is he funny? He's acting sometimes.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

All the time. Okay, all the time.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Because, like, I'm better before I started working here.

[Claudia Jordan]

Right?

[Curly]

Because he used to really hit me back and, like, be like, oh, y', all.

[Claudia Jordan]

I can retard. Everybody relax. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Curly]

Hold up.

[Claudia Jordan]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. Y' all finished or y' all done?

[Maya]

The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast, season four is here, and we're locked in. That means more juicy cheesement, terrible love advice, evil spells to cast on your ex.

[Claudia Jordan]

No, no, we're not doing that this season.

[Maya]

Oh, well, this season we're leveling up.

[Claudia Jordan]

Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not gonna wanna miss it.

[Curly]

My name is Curly.

[Maya]

And I'm Maya.

[Curly]

Get in here.

[Maya]

Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator]

What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on Earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.

[Claudia Jordan]

He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you.

[Narrator]

Listen to Shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unidentified Male Host]

Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime.

[Erica Cobb]

On the new podcast America's Crime Lab. Every case has a story to tell and the DNA holds the truth.

[DJ Envy]

He never thought he was going to get caught and I just looked at the my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[Curly]

This technology's already solving so many cases.

[Erica Cobb]

Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Hope Bryant]

It's Black Business Month and Money and wealth podcast with John Hope Bryant is tapping in. I'm breaking down how to build wealth, create opportunities, and move from surviving to thriving. It's time to talk about ownership, equity and everything in between. Black and brown communities have historically been last in line. Let me just say this AI is moving faster than civil rights legislation ever did. Listen to Money and Wealth from the Black Effect podcast network on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Unidentified Female Host]

This is an iHeart podcast.