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INTERVIEW: Cordae Talks New Music, Fatherhood, Lil Wayne's Influence, Avoiding Social Media + More
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DJ Envy
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Just Hilarious
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Just Hilarious
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Just Hilarious
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DJ Envy
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Just Hilarious
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Just Hilarious
Wake that ass.
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DJ Envy
Up early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy.
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Just Hilarious
Just hilarious.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
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DJ Envy
Yes indeed.
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Charlamagne Tha God
We got the brother Cordae. Welcome back.
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Just Hilarious
What's up y'all? How y'all feeling?
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DJ Envy
What's up, my brother, man?
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Just Hilarious
I feel good. I got a third Breakfast Club interview. Man.
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DJ Envy
That's.
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Just Hilarious
That's tight, man. A lot of people don't get third one, man. Dam.
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DJ Envy
That's true. Thought about that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Well, how you feeling? Happy holidays, man.
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Just Hilarious
I appreciate y. I'm feeling good, man. You know, just landed this morning, so I'm good.
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DJ Envy
I feel like the Crossroads, which is your new project, I feel like it should be in a lot of rap album of the year categories.
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Just Hilarious
I concur. Yeah, I agree.
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DJ Envy
Why do you think it's not? Cuz all the black people got fired at Atlantic, so it ain't no team.
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Just Hilarious
No more to put. Oh my goodness, you know what, what. What God has in store for me, no man can get in the way of.
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DJ Envy
That's right.
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Just Hilarious
And I think post album marketing is just as important, if not more important than pre album marketing, you know what I'm saying? Like, I've had albums to where they really get their legs like six months later after it comes out, you know, I'm saying you still. You got a tour, you gotta. I mean, I was been out a month and I'm doing this with y'all. It's gonna be a bunch of new people who may not have even known I dropped something that see this. So I think post album, post release marketing is just like super important, you know.
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DJ Envy
You know, we had a boss man, DLO up here and he said that he values reaction over sales. So what do you consider successful, this album or any album?
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Just Hilarious
I would. I guess it depends on how you define reaction, so. But I guess how people. I don't know. Cause I try not to put like too. Because I'm an artist and I'm sensitive about my shit. Right. The quote, Erica. So I try not to put too much like I guess thought or energy into reaction. But it. I'll be. I'll be alive if I say it don't feel good when people are like, yo, I love this album. I've been getting a Lot of that amongst this album. A lot of people telling me it's my best work. I'm seeing it online, a bunch of people rock with it. But for me, it's when I'm performing it, that validation for me is when I'm performing it and people are, like, reciting the lyrics to me. People are coming to see me when I'm out and about and people are coming. I'm like, yo, this line just really registered with me. Or, like, this song really connected with me. You know, me and my family talked about this. And so. So I guess that's the validation. More so.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So that's success to you. When people know your stuff, listen to your stuff, your core. You don't need a number to make it successful. Or do you?
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Just Hilarious
No, just more so, I think, to the point we just made earlier. And even the Boss dlo's point is just, like, people liking it, people enjoying it. It does feel good when people enjoy your music. Right. As an artist, like, you gotta. Can I curse? Yeah. Okay. You gotta have a sense of, like, not giving a fuck. You gotta. Like, when you in there creating and you put it out, you'd be like, yo, you gotta think, like, I don't give a fuck what people think. Like, truly, that's the only way you're gonna ever put anything out. Right? But it at. At the same token, it feels really good when people actually do, like, the work that you putting out. So that feels good to get such, like, positive, like, feedback from real people and fans that's out there that I'm meeting in real life and, like, fans online. But then also, again, that. That validation for me is when I'm performing it and people are rapping the lyrics back to me, coming to see me performing the music. So that is validation comes in a multitude of ways, for sure.
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Cordae
Why is it called the Crossroads? You said it's your third time up here. That's also your third album. This is the Crossroads. Does that have something to do with your personal life? How you feel? At what point in your life are you. Right now?
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Just Hilarious
Yeah, I see.
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DJ Envy
Do you think he's dying or something?
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Just Hilarious
Oh, my God.
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Cordae
This is not about context and harmony. The Crossroads can mean a number of things, sir.
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Just Hilarious
Well, I did sample Bone Thug. Yeah. On the intro, but more so for me, I had to pay homage. If I'm gonna call the album the Crossroads, I gotta bring some Bone Thugs in it. But for me, just more so. It's like when I was making this, the Crossroads represent for me is, like, not necessarily Know where I'm going. And when I was making this album, I kept saying, I'm at a crossroads. I'm at a crossroads. I'm at a cross. I say it, like, on, like, seven different songs before I even knew the title of the project. And so I'm like, why I keep saying this in music? Am I at a crossroads? And so, like, you know, Quarter Life Crisis is like a real thing.
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DJ Envy
Quarter Life Crisis?
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Just Hilarious
Yeah. You never heard of that?
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Charlamagne Tha God
No.
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Just Hilarious
You know, I think somebody. I forgot who it was. A artist made an album called Quarter Life Crisis. I can't think of the name of it. I don't think it was, like, a really big album, but, like, I looked at. It's a thing. It's. I don't know if it's a thing, but I seen it there, and it's a thing. Right?
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DJ Envy
How old are you now? 30.
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Just Hilarious
No. Oh, my God. I'm 27, bro.
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DJ Envy
The worst thing in the world to be 30.
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Just Hilarious
I'm a fresh midlife crisis. I mean, I'm a fresh 27 too, but. But that's it. But even that 27 club, you know, not to speak, that energy. I'm gonna live a long, prosperous life. But, yeah, just more so. The. The feeling of unknowing of where I'm going next, you know what I'm saying? And that's an exciting thing, but it's also. It's fucking scary, honestly. So that's how I came up with the crossroads.
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DJ Envy
I don't believe in vision boards and stuff like that. Like, I mean, because, you know, they always say you can tell God your plans, but God will laugh at you. Like, you're good plan.
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Just Hilarious
We plan, God laugh. Yeah, that's a proverb, but I think it's a Yiddish proverb. But I say all this to say, yeah, I definitely make vision boards. I do, like, a planner at the end of every year, beginning of next year, I've been doing. I write in my little notebook where I journal at a lot. And honestly, yo, I knocked out a bunch of stuff that I wrote down. I did, like, a thought bubble of goals. More so at the end of last year, and I knocked out a bunch of those stuff. Like, one of my thought bubbles was, like, to have a song with. With. With. Yay. Formerly known as Kanye West. That was on my thought bubble. And so, yeah, I do vision boards. I write down goals and dreams and stuff. But I haven't done a vision board since 2018. So I. I literally thought about that, like, a couple days ago. I'm like, nah, at the end of this year, I'm gonna do another vision board. But I always, like, write down my goals and stuff for the next year for sure.
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DJ Envy
But you. And even with that, you don't know where you want to go now?
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Just Hilarious
I do know where I want to go, but it's more like just on. You can have. You can have an idea where you want to go, but where you actually go. It is sometimes a difference. Sometimes you write on the money like, yo, I want to do this, I want to do this this year. This, this, and that. And then your path can be like, well, I did this, this and that. But actually, that wasn't right for me, you know what I'm saying? So God brought me here. But what I've learned is, too, was like, what's meant for you, will never miss you, no matter how hard you try to fuck it up, you know what I'm saying? Was never meant for me. Excuse me. Was meant for me, will never miss me, you know? How is your life?
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Charlamagne Tha God
How has your life changed now that you have a child?
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Just Hilarious
Right.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Cause your daughter's one years old?
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Just Hilarious
Yeah, one and a half.
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Charlamagne Tha God
One and a half years.
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Just Hilarious
Yes, sir.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So how has things changed as a young father?
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Just Hilarious
Yeah, for me, it's more having a respect for my time. You know what I'm saying? Being more disciplined when it comes to my time and also having more respect for other people's time. Because I'm like, I want people to respect my time because I got kids, I can. You know, when I leave the house, it needs to be something important or something that I love to do. Something that's fulfilling fulfillment for me is going into the studio, enjoying good times with friends. You know, my job is. I mean, you know, this is essentially I want. This doesn't even feel like a job to me, though, to be honest. But I say this to say.
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DJ Envy
You don't even take your coat off.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah, no, exactly. It's a fresh coat. But I say all this to say, um, yeah, when I leave the house, it has to be something important, you know? So it just really has me focused on, like, time management and versus before. Like, I'll be, you know, as an artist, like, you'll be in the studio from like 9pm to 6am one day, then the next day it might be, like, from 7:00pm to 3:00am so you kind of all over the place. Versus, like, when, since I had a daughter, it's like, now I'm in the studio from 9am to 6pm six days a week. And then three out of those six days, I come back to the studio from, like, 10pm to 4am so it's more of, like, a regiment of me, like, recording and stuff. And I think I'm more productive now because I don't take my time for granted, you know, that feel like work, though.
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DJ Envy
Like, if you set, like, work hours nine to six. Because creativity comes all times a day, all times of night.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah, that's why I do that. That's why I do three times a day. I do it at night, too. But I've noticed all the most successful artists that I've talked with or linked with, they work like that, like, for real. He works, like, from like, 9am to like, 3. Like, he works at, like, a 9 to 5. I've seen somewhere Eminem is in the studio every day from nine to five. He takes a lunch break at noon. You know what I'm saying? A bunch of other successful artists, I know, they, like, on a regimented schedule because where I guess motivation is low, that's where discipline kicks in. Or inspiration, you know, is low. That's where just, like, discipline comes in. And what I've learned, too, is, like, every verse that I write is equity. You know what I'm saying? Whether that verse makes the album or not, that verse can be used for. Let's say somebody wants me on that song. I can use that verse for that song. I can use that verse for, like, a movie sync, a video game sync. You know what I'm saying? And so me, I really. It doesn't feel like work to me, above all else, because, like, I love doing this. Like, I love, like, being in the dojo, if you would, you know, And I switch up the times and locations of where I cook at. Like, I might, like, rent out an Airbnb for, like, two months, bring all my studio equipment there, and we just creating out of there. I might, you know, I find creative ways to get creative.
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DJ Envy
I saw one of those crazy YouTube videos, and it said, why Cordae's career hit a crossroad. Album flops horrendously.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah.
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DJ Envy
Do you feel your. Well, you just said it. You feel you're at a crossroads, but do you feel like your album flopped?
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Just Hilarious
No, because, like, probability of that it's like some white boy in Indiana. Not that it's a race thing, but it's like, the truth of the people that run those. And, like, if you look at channels like that their whole channel subscribes to a bunch of negativity. Like, that's like, what they're about. So you can nitpick every artist in music, you could find something negative and nitpick at where like, they lack of. Where they lack in some department. You know what I'm saying? But no, because, like, I had other albums that didn't have like a strong first week, but again, my tour end up doing super well. And then later on it grows and becomes like a larger thing. Like, why spend all this time focusing on one week? One week? We gonna spend all this time focusing on one week when there is 52 weeks out of the year. Like, you want to just give up on the album because, like, it didn't have a super strong first week. You know what I'm saying? Excuse me, what I'm saying. And I think I get compared to like megastars, like my first, like, if you compare like a cord a first week sales to like a Kendrick Lamar first week sales of like, of course there's a discrepancy. But when it comes to like my actual peers that do the type of music that I do this, like, it's all like a balance. It's there. We're all at doing the same comparative numbers, you know, even though comparison is the thief of joy. But just that's a whole nother perspective. But yeah, no, I don't. I have no worry about what some white man says about my career.
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Charlamagne Tha God
What's your relationship with Wayne? I see Wayne on a project a couple times.
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Just Hilarious
Oh, Wayne is the one. I've gained so many gems from Wayne, honestly, when it comes to creativity, when it comes to creating music, when it comes to. He gave me some gems of. You have to treat every single song like it's people's first time hearing you. And it sounds so simple, but it lit a fire under my brain of, nah, son. Like, that is yo, it's so simple, but it says so much of like, what happens is I've been blessed. I have like a core audience and the core fans that like, rocks with me no matter what I put out. But that can also become a hindrance because you in the studio, you like, yo, my fans gonna love this regardless. Like, no matter what I do versus you taking that approach of, like, I gotta make a first impression on people. I gotta treat every song like it's people's first time hearing it. It makes you like really, like, want to give it your all, if that makes sense. And want to make sure, like, yo, is this worth hearing? You want to make a good first impression. And the fan that way, the fans that you already Have. They're gonna be like, oh, my God, this is the greatest thing in the world. And for somebody who's like, 50, 50 on you, who made my. Okay, I heard a song. I heard a freestyle. I don't know, like that here. A song then or album, then they like, oh, nah, like, they legit, you know? So I think that was a huge thing I learned from Wayne. And also, like, that work ethic, just by. Just. He teaches by. By doing. You know what I'm saying? Like, his. I've been able to be blessed to watch him up close, and his work ethic is, like, incredible. And his love for music, it just never goes anywhere. And you understand why he sold, like, 300 million records and been. He's like hip hop's Michael Jackson, if you would. Because if you think about it, there's not that many people that were, like, child stars that went on to become superstars and more successful as they get older, you know what I'm saying?
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DJ Envy
Have he ever told you why he likes to collaborate with you?
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Just Hilarious
No, I don't ask. I didn't ask. Yeah, no, no, I don't ask. But I mean, he definitely, like, give me my props, and my loves are just like, yeah, you want. He. I mean, he says I'm a killer. You know what I'm saying? He's like, nah, you a killer. Like, why? Like, you scary. You know what I'm saying? So he's like, yo, you're a killer, and you scary. So I would assume that's why.
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DJ Envy
How many songs y'all got in the vote together?
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Just Hilarious
One joint. We got one on, like, unreleased joint.
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DJ Envy
Okay.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah, but it's. Yeah, that. That mentorship and that guidance is like. You can't put a price tag.
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Charlamagne Tha God
How'd y'all meet?
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DJ Envy
I don't like how you whispered that, I guess.
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Just Hilarious
How'd y'all meet?
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Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't whisper nothing.
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DJ Envy
How'd y'all meet?
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's what you wanted to hear? I didn't say it like that.
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Just Hilarious
I said, how'd y'all meet? Actually, he had good job cordage.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Just ignore him. Good job.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah. Nah, it's all good. I didn't.
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DJ Envy
You've done this before.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Not my first. You know, it's fun. Obviously, we said what I was going to say. Oh, yeah. How we meet? I did a interview with he had a young money. Not had. He has a young money Radio, Apple Music. Yeah. So we started with that. Then I got his number. He shot me his number through there, and it's Just been like back and forth since then, you know, I think.
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DJ Envy
We got to stop seeing things like the hip hop. Michael Jackson though.
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Cordae
Yeah.
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DJ Envy
Only because Wayne is Wayne and he's a all time great. I think sometimes when we make those comparisons, it puts unrealistic expectations because I don't think people realize how big Michael Jackson was. I think y'all generation says that shit. Yeah, but y'all really don't realize how big Michael Jackson, he sold 100 million records off one album.
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Cordae
They had to be there a lot and a lot of people were there for them.
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DJ Envy
You know what it means to sell 100 million records off one album when people had to get up and go to the store.
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Just Hilarious
That's also a different thing. Going back to our earlier points with like how albums are consumed, because when Michael Jackson sold 100 million records, 100 million people or 30 million people, three times, like people, you had to actually leave your house and go to the store to buy an album. Versus now like, like the Spotify, Apple music streaming equivalents, you got to stream a song has to stream 1500 times to count as like one singular unit to where you can have like 500,000 people all streaming your music once. And it equates to like, I can't do the math on the top of my head, but like not like a high number. So I say, going back to the original point of Dwayne, you know what I find? Comparison is the easiest way to describe something. You know what I'm saying? Like, comparison is like the easiest way to describe something. So just my more so point was.
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DJ Envy
Like, it's like a child star being growing to now. Yeah.
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Just Hilarious
And being even more successful and better as an adult, you know what I'm saying? So that was the whole point. But yeah, now Michael, I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan, but I was born in 97, you know what I'm saying? So that was like what his story. Oh yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, yeah, like Invincible. I was there for Invincible.
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Cordae
That was like one of the.
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Just Hilarious
So I love Invincible, by the way, that album. He got the. The floor tree joint on there. The butterflies.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. So what do you think about streaming? Because I see you broke it down. So you really thought about streaming, right?
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Just Hilarious
Yes.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And like you think about it, if I stream your full album.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And I only stream it once, that doesn't count as a sale.
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Just Hilarious
No, it's wild to me. You have to stream it 1500 times to count as one, which is wild.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So what's your Thoughts on the streaming process. And I know you signed but would you ever say, you know what, I'm gonna go direct to consumer.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah, for sure. And you know what, it's a bunch of like I always have these. Cause I love music, I love hip hop. I'm always having like, not always but I have these talks like amongst my friends of like the difference or like even amongst other artist friends or like the pros and cons of being an artist today versus like let's say the 90s, right? Like in the 90s, even early 2000s, they made a lot more money off like act actual music off the actual music because it was physical sales, you know what I'm saying? So we're like again, when you sold 1 million records, that mean 1 million people bought it and it was let's say $10 a copy to where like yo, you're actually making. So my bad to go on a tangent. So back in the 90s, 2000s, right, they made more money off the actual music, off music sales, publishing, etc, but they weren't making as much on ancillaries like touring, merch, brand endorsements. So today we had like I was in a Coca Cola super bowl commercial as Corday. And I say that to say like I am like in the 80s 90s you had to be like the like Michael Jackson was in like a Coca Cola or Pepsi. Yeah, super bowl commercial or like you know, commercial whatever. Right. So I say this to say back in the 90s, they didn't have too many like ancillary opportunities. They weren't making as much money on shows and stuff like that. Today we make more money off shows, festivals, brands, et cetera. But it doesn't make as much on the actual music because the way music is scaled is like kind of crazy. I don't know. I just don't know. I'm not going to act like an expert on it. It's just like super complicated. But pros and cons are both, you know, it might even out and balance out, you know, but it's just different.
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Cordae
Now in the song 06 Dreaming, you talk about your mom and her musical dreams and how she tried out for making a band and American Idol and you sampled one of her old songs. How'd she feel about that when she heard it?
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Just Hilarious
Oh, she liked it. She liked it a lot. Yeah, she definitely liked it. Cause it's just like a. That's one of my favorite songs. Cause it's obviously it's close to home, but it's like a story of Irony of just like. And also a story of how, like, you can love something so much that it gets passed down to your kids whether you like it and whether, you know, you have an influence on that, like, outwardly or not, you know? And so I love it again. Cause it's close to home. It's a story of irony. And it's just hip hop. Like, yo, I sampled one of my mom's old songs and telling the story, I mean, she definitely got her pub in points for show she ain't charged me. I made sure, you know, she in off that. You know what I'm saying? So she gotta just do for sure. So I say all this to say, yeah, nah, thank you. I rock with that song a lot.
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Cordae
Ain't you kind of glad she ain't make the band?
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Charlamagne Tha God
I know you ecstatic. She ain't make the band right now.
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DJ Envy
Say that on the record. You said, I can't remember what the line was, but you basically said, you think Puff is a victim of his own karma. He made him run six miles, and your mom didn't make the ban. So do you really. Do you think that? Do you think Puff is a victim of his own karma? You said, look at Puff now.
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Just Hilarious
That's one way that it can be interpreted. It can be interpreted in a bunch of different ways. You know, it just depends on, like, what lens or what ear you listening to it. But so what you mean by the bar? You know what? To be honest, like, that bar was something I was so, like, hesitant on saying because, like, above all else. Not even above all else. Like, above all else, I'm a human being, right? But being a human being, I'm. I'm super pro black. And, like, publicly, I don't ever want to speak bad about another black man, but damn, this nigga's making it hard. You know what I'm saying? Like, honestly, like, pause. Oh, my God. Super pause. Easy, yo. My goodness.
- [22:23]
DJ Envy
Making it hard. Crazy, yo. Wow.
- [22:27]
Just Hilarious
You know what I meant by that.
- [22:28]
DJ Envy
No, I don't.
- [22:30]
Just Hilarious
We ain't finna do this. We ain't gonna do this. The pause, the pauses that you have, that's facts.
- [22:37]
Charlamagne Tha God
He got some pauses.
- [22:39]
Just Hilarious
So I say this to say, go back to my man. Let's leave this alone, man. There no right answer to this. I tried to juke around this, you know, but y'all some professor. But yeah, to my point, like, I don't ever want to publicly speak down on another black man. But, like, oh, you know, it's like.
- [22:57]
DJ Envy
You got a song on the Album with Kanye. You talked about it earlier. It's called no Bad Juice. Why would you do that?
- [23:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
No Bad Juice.
- [23:04]
Just Hilarious
Yo, you crazy, man. No, but, yo, you're crazy. It's called no Bad News.
- [23:10]
DJ Envy
Oh, news. Yes, you're right.
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Cordae
I'm sorry.
- [23:11]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, yeah. It's called no Bad News.
- [23:12]
DJ Envy
How was that? Cause I know he's on your Mount Rushmore.
- [23:14]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, I mean, bro Bucket, where'd you get juice from?
- [23:17]
Cordae
Geez.
- [23:18]
Just Hilarious
Yo, that's what I thought it was called.
- [23:20]
DJ Envy
It might be a typo. I'm sorry.
- [23:21]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's definitely a dream come true bucket list.
- [23:29]
DJ Envy
What you learned from that session?
- [23:31]
Just Hilarious
I mean, yo, Yay's one of the. The. The Goats. Like, he. I had a different hook for that song, and he sent over notes of, like, instead of saying this, you know, say this.
- [23:40]
DJ Envy
That's what I just said.
- [23:41]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, yeah. So let me finish. Okay, okay. My bad, My bad. That came up. You been. You've been throwing me, like. I know, I know.
- [23:49]
DJ Envy
Messing with you.
- [23:49]
Just Hilarious
I know. You just told.
- [23:50]
DJ Envy
You called it no Bad News. He wanted to call it something else.
- [23:53]
Just Hilarious
No, no, that's not the title. There was no back and forth over the title title. But, yeah, basically, like, yo, this. I mean, point blank, period. Yay is a genius. Creative genius at the highest level. What can I say about him creatively that he doesn't already know and that we, as the world, doesn't already know. But definitely a bucket list to work with him for. Sure.
- [24:14]
DJ Envy
What kind of space is he in right now?
- [24:16]
Just Hilarious
I. I can't speak for another man, you know what I'm saying?
- [24:20]
DJ Envy
But were y'all together in the studio?
- [24:21]
Just Hilarious
No, no, no. We weren't all together. It was all remote. So I don't want to, you know, speak for another man.
- [24:26]
DJ Envy
I love the record All Alone.
- [24:28]
Just Hilarious
Oh, thank you.
- [24:29]
DJ Envy
What do you think could fill that void of loneliness for you?
- [24:33]
Just Hilarious
I don't know, cuz it's funny about that song, too, because I actually had sampled, like, it was this, like, Korean jazz artist who did a cover of that song. But, like, the person who owns the master, like, hates that person. And so we went back, went back, and I found, like, the Luther sample, which is, like, super dope, too, that he cleared that. Luther, don't let you curse on this shit either. That's a whole nother story. But, yeah, so I guess what fills that void? My family. You know what I'm saying? First and foremost, I could have went straight to that, but being around my family definitely Helps that enjoying life experiences with my family helps fill that void. Because I mean, being a generational curse breaker is. It's a lonely road, you know what I'm saying? It's not for the week. Being famous or artists with a platform that, that shit is not for the week. Like you said, you know, earlier, like, somebody's always going to have something to say no matter what. People always going to have, especially in the zeitgeist of this earth is like negativity is just like it connects the most, you know what I'm saying? Unfortunately. And so, yeah, so at times, you know, you can follow along. But for me, filling that void is like, you know, being around family, being around my daughter and enjoying life and making memories with them and building my own tribe of like community, you know what I'm saying? Because I feel like in hip hop and black people in general, not to speak for the general consensus, but there needs to be a lot less competition in a lot more community. I can speak on that for hip hop for sure. I love the competitiveness when we going at it, when everybody going at it with the bars. Cause that's the genesis of hip hop. That's the heart of hip hop. But as far as just like, you know, sharing knowledge, sharing information, resources, connecting, I feel like there needs to be a greater sense of community, you know.
- [26:27]
DJ Envy
So, yeah, I wonder about that often. Sometimes I think it's too many of us to ever have a sense of community. Like you'll find your tribe and amongst your tribe you'll have community. But black people aren't monolithic. You talking about 40 plus million people? Yeah, I don't know if you can ever have community amongst 40 plus million people.
- [26:46]
Just Hilarious
What does monolithic mean?
- [26:47]
DJ Envy
Means that all of us aren't the same.
- [26:49]
Just Hilarious
Okay. Yeah, I thought so. I just wanted to make sure. But yeah, I mean, and that's the beauty about being black. Like, I think you ever heard of like rdc, they like the comedian. They're like a group of comedians and shit online. They do skits and shit. But they have this thing called like they have this con that they have in. It's like a festival, if you would, in Austin, Texas. And it's basically like a safe place for like black nerds that love anime. But it's like, yo, like that's. You wouldn't think if you're just like, not one thing, but I'm just like, yo, the fact that you found like your niche audience and made a safe space because it's like 30,000 people there and it's all people that love like anime and shit like that. And so just going back to the point of just like, you know, community. I don't know, I think community is important. And find it. You don't have. You're never going to find one person that agrees with you on 100% of everything or one person that likes 100% of everything that you like. But finding a community of just good people that look like you or don't look like you, but have the same morals, values and on the same wavelength, you know, I think that's super important of just finding, creating a community of like minded individuals. And I think in hip hop specifically, like, I guess lyricism or substance driven artists like that, I can sense that's something that needs to be like build it upon, you know.
- [28:14]
Cordae
So, yeah, I did had a question a long time ago. Yeah, I know that you, you said you like to, you know, be with your, your baby girl, your daughter.
- [28:22]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [28:22]
Cordae
How are you in Naomi though?
- [28:24]
Just Hilarious
Are we good?
- [28:24]
Cordae
I just seen that y'all had a date night like a couple nights ago at Jamie Foxx. Y'all was at something.
- [28:30]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now we good, man.
- [28:33]
Cordae
Y'all know, because y'all don't post each other so much. People even speculate about that maybe they broke up or anything that speaks to what you was talking about. About just everything connecting negatively.
- [28:42]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, for sure. Me, honestly, like, I am a super private person. I am like, I try my best as much as I can be, like when it comes to my personal life, to be super private, like as much as I can be. Because some stuff you gotta keep for yourself. And when you allow like outside opinion, when you let. And outside opinions can be family members, you know what I'm saying? And that can get in the way of stuff that's important to you. So, man, when you add the world to that, that's a whole nother thing. And so I try to be as private while speaking on it now, but I try to be as private as I possibly can about like my personal life. Like, you know, even with my daughter and you know, my relationship and stuff.
- [29:22]
Cordae
Do you still talk to the YBN crew?
- [29:24]
Just Hilarious
I talk to Almighty J. I don't really talk to Namir like that, to be honest. Okay.
- [29:28]
DJ Envy
Why?
- [29:29]
Just Hilarious
I don't know. Like, I. For me, there's no matter what Namir got to say about me publicly, there's always a level of respect and appreciation that I have for Namir that like, nobody can ever get me to like talk Bad about Namir, you know what I'm saying? Cause, like, yo, that dude threw me the oop. And I called it and dunked it. She shined that light on me, and I'm like, I'm not even saying this to be, like, politically correct. It's just the godzoneth truth. I'm super grateful for him. Like, he changed my life, you know what I'm saying? For lack of a better word. And so, like I said, he shined that light on me, you know what I'm saying? Threw me the oops, you know, I caught it, windmilled it, and I got so much love for him. Like, I talked to Namir, mom more than I talked to Namir, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's how that is. So, yeah, I was gonna ask, will.
- [30:12]
DJ Envy
Y'All have a talk?
- [30:13]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, for sure. Like, it'll be, like, random, like, birthdays and, you know, stuff. Like, the Distant Relative is, like, the best comparison for communication. I remember when I did Coachella, like, two years ago, I wanted to bring him out for that. Cause I'm like, yo, that'd be crazy just on some stuff. But he ain't wanna do it for whatever reason. Not saying it was like, any bad blood, but yeah, Nah, like I said with Namir, bro, I got so much love and appreciation for him. That, again, even if it ain't the same way, it's nothing that he can say to ever make me forget all the love that he has shown me.
- [30:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
I was gonna ask, how do you deal with social media? Are you on social media? Because between your girl yourself, if she has a bad game, they blame it on you. If you have a bad album, they blame it on her. So it's like, how do you deal with that as far as mentally and even in your relationship?
- [31:03]
Just Hilarious
Well, it comes down to, like, I've truly, like, I don't give a fuck, bro, what people think. Because people. I've learned, too, that Internet isn't a real place. Like, it. It has influence, right? It does have influence, but it's. It's not a real place. And people are always going to say something. People nitpick. Anything apart. Like, literally, people always find something negative in the most positive stuff. Charlamagne. You can do a toy drive and give away $100,000 worth of gifts. And if you got a cameraman there, niggas going be like, oh, you just did it for the camera. And let's just say you did. You overlook the positive part of, like, yo, this nigga just gave away $100,000 worth of gifts, you know what I'm saying? And so people always going to have something to say. And as soon as you realize that is like, bro, y'all can all suck my dick. You know what I'm saying? Pause. You know what I'm saying?
- [31:56]
DJ Envy
Nobody ever brings that up for the negative stuff, right? Like somebody can just be online, flossing, have the money phone to their ear, doing it for the camera. But nobody ever says, you just doing that for the camera. But anything positive you just doing for the camera, it makes no sense.
- [32:09]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. Yeah, nice. I mean, not a state. It does it again, especially it has.
- [32:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
To be for your girl because it's like they attack everything and it's like, damn, leave her alone.
- [32:23]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, for me, like, I can't speak. What, like she feels I ain't going to speak for her, but I'll be the worst PR person forever. But I say all this to say, like, for me, like, again, I am an artist and I'm sensitive about my shit. And with this album, like, yo, it's been like, people been fucking loving the album, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's been across the board, like, yo, I really fuck with this album. It really connects with me. But I'm at a place now to where you don't create. I was doing a stream with. I'm Dante, this kid, I'm Dante, black streamer, super dope, super funny. And like, I was telling him, like, bro, like, even with these streamers and not to say, like, I'm all knowing and we figuring this shit out day by day, but it's like, day. Their next move is based on what the fucking chat is saying. You know what I'm saying? They're like. They're what? They say. Their whole mood is based on what the chat is saying. I'm like, I get it, that's your job. But like, you can't live like that.
- [33:19]
DJ Envy
Not just the screamers.
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DJ Envy
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Just Hilarious
So you say hey Meta, how do I make a latte?
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Just Hilarious
Hey Meta Play hip hop music with.
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Just Hilarious
Hey Meta. Text my last photo to Eva.
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- [37:32]
DJ Envy
It'S people in general. No, look at them comments, them YouTube pages and it will influence every single thing they do. I think the most power that you can give yourself in this era is to disconnect from all of that and have an opinion or create art and not even worry about what anybody on social media is going to say.
- [37:48]
Just Hilarious
No, because they're always going to say something. It's always going to be negative. And so what I've learned is let's say even back to an album, like if people, I've learned to like not give a fuck. Because let's say everybody, everybody loves this album. Again, it's been really positive feedback on this album.
- [38:04]
DJ Envy
I with it.
- [38:05]
Just Hilarious
Nah, thank you. Appreciate it. But let's say you drop an album and everybody's like this is the greatest shit ever. This is a classic. You can let that get to your head and create an ego of oh I am as great as they say I am. Then your next album, people might not love it and they're like oh this is shit. And it can, it can fuck with your confidence like damn, maybe I am shit like they say I am. And so when you know who you are, nobody can tell you who you are from my experience. And so that's why it comes down to, like, I don't give a fuck what people think, whether it's great or bad. You know what I'm saying? And like, yo, like, I can sleep well at night. You know what I'm saying? I know I put a bunch of work in. In the music. I can live with that no matter what the outcome is. Now, it gets tricky when, if you be honest with yourself, you like, damn, I could have put more time and effort into this. I could have put more thought and energy into this. And then people don't like it. And then it's like, yeah, damn. The might be saying some. You know what I'm saying? But if you, like, truly put your all into it, your heart into it, and like, people like, yo, this, you know, it's like, yo, I'm like, suck a dick. I'll try next time. You know, Paul, suck a dick.
- [39:12]
DJ Envy
I'll try next time. God damn.
- [39:14]
Just Hilarious
You know what I mean?
- [39:15]
DJ Envy
No, I don't.
- [39:16]
Just Hilarious
Oh, my God.
- [39:17]
DJ Envy
Do you question.
- [39:18]
Just Hilarious
I have, by the way, I've been hanging with my little brother and them. They some young. They like 20. And so my Paul's radar has been, like, through the roof.
- [39:27]
DJ Envy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [39:27]
Just Hilarious
It meaning, like, I pick up the Paul. I'll usually pause myself first. And others.
- [39:32]
DJ Envy
You got gay ears.
- [39:33]
Just Hilarious
Pause.
- [39:34]
DJ Envy
It's fun.
- [39:35]
Just Hilarious
No, no, Ain't nothing. Ain't nothing homosexual about nothing on this part. If that's somebody's prerogative, that's all them. But anywho, what would you finna say?
- [39:44]
DJ Envy
I gotta get ears?
- [39:45]
Cordae
You got more to get everything, huh?
- [39:47]
Just Hilarious
You got more to get ears, bro. He got more to get ears. Hey, live your truth, brother. By all means. This is a safe place. And we. We got an abundance of love and joy for you. No matter, you know, what you like to do in your free time.
- [40:00]
DJ Envy
When you write because of the mother of your child, you question your lyrics. For example, like, when I hear Pray is Prey about Naomi, I try to.
- [40:10]
Just Hilarious
Make my music as. From my heart and relatable as possible. And also I answer that with. I just let the music speak for itself.
- [40:22]
DJ Envy
A lot of insecurity you're showing on that record.
- [40:23]
Just Hilarious
Then I just. I let the. Because I'm so. And also too, because I'm so vulnerable in my music. That's why I don't do too many interviews. Like, like I said, you know, this is my, like, third time on here. You know, we have a rapport now to where I. I can't come with y'all with Well, I can, but, like, I'm not gonna come with y'all not to say there's anything wrong with people that do this, but I'm not gonna come with y'all with a list of, like, shit to not talk about. You know what I'm saying? So I say all this.
- [40:48]
DJ Envy
You can't when you got a bar that says you're never gonna be in interviews and not be authentic.
- [40:51]
Just Hilarious
That is true. That's a bar. But. So I say this to say because I am to be authentic, right? Because I am so vulnerable and personal in my music. It's some stuff I rather not go into detail and over explain it, you know, because it kind of is like a magician revealing the magic, you know, the trick. So. Yeah.
- [41:11]
DJ Envy
Do you feel like sometimes being like the boyfriend overshadows being the boyfriend of her? Overshadows you being Cordae?
- [41:18]
Just Hilarious
Nah. Cause I was Cordae first. And, like, I'm very confident, like, in myself, like, as a. I don't really like to pop my shit, but, like, I'm a super successful, like, young black man, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm wealthy, I'm blessed, I do it. And above all else, I'm a man of God and I'm a pride. Not prideful, but I am a very unapologetic black man. You know what I'm saying? And I say all that to say, yeah, no, there isn't.
- [41:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, well.
- [41:48]
DJ Envy
Oh, I got some more questions. Okay.
- [41:51]
Just Hilarious
We here, baby, we here. Don't try. Don't give me the 30 minute one.
- [41:55]
DJ Envy
Never see it with Juicy J. You say you might see me stressing over blessings that I prayed for.
- [42:01]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [42:01]
DJ Envy
And I want to talk about that line because I overstand it.
- [42:03]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [42:04]
DJ Envy
Expound on that for people like, bro.
- [42:07]
Just Hilarious
This shit is stressful, bro. You know what I'm saying? People can come into an interview and be stressed out based on the questions that they're getting. Like, you just asked me about two super controversial top. Not to say that's a bad thing, but, like, someone can view that as like, oh, my God, stressful. But I pray. Let's leave it alone. My bad for bringing up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going. We gonna leave that in this seven minute mark. But I say all this to say of, like, yeah, you might a do be stressing over. I pray for. You know what I'm saying? Like, I pray for, you know, to quote Meek Mill, not to bring it back. You know, I pray for times like this. And if you really a killer and you really love this and you really dedicated to this craft. It's not for the week. It's not easy, bro. It's not easy. It's not for the week. It's not easy. I. I over understand that. I'm super blessed, bro. Like some days when I'm stressed out, bro, I. I do retail therapy and I go shopping. I know that's a lot of things that people can't do. You know what I'm saying?
- [43:06]
Charlamagne Tha God
But what's the most difficult thing you have to deal with? Cause people look at your life and be like, you popping?
- [43:12]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [43:13]
Charlamagne Tha God
You got a great career.
- [43:15]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [43:15]
DJ Envy
Great family.
- [43:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Living your family. You got a kid.
- [43:18]
Just Hilarious
I'm handsome.
- [43:19]
Cordae
He's like, never forget that. Y'all gay. Why y'all ain't say that first?
- [43:24]
Just Hilarious
Six feet tall and shit, you know? Super handsome. We get it, we get it, we get it. I was waiting for somebody to say.
- [43:32]
Cordae
It, but you handsome. Yo, you handsome.
- [43:34]
Just Hilarious
Hey, appreciate it.
- [43:35]
DJ Envy
You play gay on the radio. I'm not really gay.
- [43:41]
Just Hilarious
What I was going to say. Damn. Who's asking?
- [43:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
What bothers you the most?
- [43:45]
Just Hilarious
Oh, honestly, it can't.
- [43:47]
Charlamagne Tha God
Difficult thing to deal with.
- [43:48]
Just Hilarious
It's the thing that's like whatever's currently presently in front of me, like at that time, it's not like, oh, my God, this dinkleberg, you know what I'm saying? Y'all might be too old for that reference, but it's not like one constant thing or one enemy. Not when I say enemy, I don't mean like person. I mean like thing.
- [44:07]
DJ Envy
What is a dinkle bird? I can't even.
- [44:09]
Cordae
I heard of do bird.
- [44:10]
Just Hilarious
Okay. It's a. A fairly odd parents reference. It's this cartoon, but that was like the Timmy's Turner's dad, like, arch nemesis. So it's like. But that was his same nemesis every episode, so. My bad. I didn't read the room and you.
- [44:33]
DJ Envy
Put us on to something.
- [44:33]
Just Hilarious
Yeah. Nah, for real. So I say this to say it's never one constant enemy. It's always some. It'd be some different every day. Like, literally. You know what I'm saying? Like some different every day. And so you have to conquer that and you have to be bigger than your. Your issues. You have to be solution based. And I try. And one thing I've learned to be is like solution based. Let's make the most out of any given situation. And that's why I am as successful as I am and why I'm going to get to where I want and need to Be, you know, in life. And so, yeah, it's some different shit literally fucking every day. And you just got to be. And that's for anybody in life. I know it's a million motherfuckers that may watch this or listen to this. It be some different shit every day. No matter what stage of life that you on, you just got to be solution based in, like, you know. Yeah. Just try to be as solution based as possible.
- [45:23]
DJ Envy
And it causes levels of anxiety in you. Right. Because, you know, it's a blessing from God.
- [45:28]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [45:28]
DJ Envy
You feel like you're not appreciating it, and then you feel like, damn, is God gonna take it away from me? Because I don't appreciate it. It's not that I don't appreciate it. It's just stress that comes with it.
- [45:37]
Just Hilarious
Nah, that's a fact. I mean, heavy is the head, bro. Heavy is the head. And. Yeah, heavy is the head. And so you gotta, you know, if you ask for what great. You know, not the. I was trying to. Not to quote fucking Stan Lee, but, you know, with great power and platform comes, you know, great responsibility and stuff. When you ask for massive things, you gotta be paused. You gotta be ready to deal what comes with it. You know what I'm saying? Be ready for the responsibility of it. And so, like, my therapist told me.
- [46:04]
DJ Envy
There'S no either or, meaning that you can't have Cordae's success without having Cordae's problems.
- [46:10]
Just Hilarious
Exactly. And any. Yeah, exactly.
- [46:13]
Charlamagne Tha God
Now, you did post a picture of yourself.
- [46:15]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [46:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
You put hashtag Free Luigi.
- [46:18]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [46:18]
Charlamagne Tha God
People were mad about. Mad at you about that.
- [46:20]
Just Hilarious
They are.
- [46:21]
Charlamagne Tha God
They assume the Free Luigi.
- [46:22]
Just Hilarious
Who's people. Who is this target demographic of people? Because I didn't know that. Nigga, are you mad? No, I'm joking.
- [46:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
People are mad at Free Luigi because you know Luigi, if it's the same Luigi.
- [46:34]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [46:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
We don't know. He's the gentleman that killed the CEO of United Healthcare.
- [46:38]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, I know. My Luigi, Mario bro, was locked up, man. Yeah, yeah.
- [46:46]
Cordae
Okay.
- [46:47]
Just Hilarious
But anywho. But yo, I'm just in a space now. Another big thing that I've, like, the, like, one crossroad I've gotten past is like being super, I feel like. Because I'd say I've done a lot of things that I wanted to do thus far. Right. And I know it's so much more that I got to do. I'm still on this. This journey. If you look at all my albums, they all represent a journey from the lost boy to the crossroads. It's all if you look at it, it's all a journey. Cuz that's kind of what life is, right? So on this particular moment in my journey, I felt as though in the past I've been a little too like scared to be canceled for lack of a better word or fearful to say what I really feel about certain and because of like protecting what I've built, you know what I'm saying? Like when you build and saved up millions of dollars or like you, you've built up a bunch of. Right that or a brand or whatever the case may, may be a company business. Like you want to protect that and sometimes protecting that causes fear and you to move through fear. So I've kind of entered into this space now of like, yes, I'm a creative first, I'm an artist first. And I gotta just say what's on my mind. Like, you know, don't be an idiot. You know what I'm saying? Don't, don't be dumb, you know, but like, yo, don't be as like politically correct and like scared to offend anybody because you're just bland. If you're just like, oh, I don't want to offend this person or I don't want to offend this person. I don't want to make this person mad, you know what I'm saying? To where like I've been doing that hella like in my creative and so I want to do that. Like. Yeah, I just thought that was funny. I mean, bro, you know, he. I don't want to speak on that too much to say.
- [48:24]
DJ Envy
You thought it was funny?
- [48:25]
Just Hilarious
No, no, no, not that was funny. But I don't think he is a monster. Like, you know what I'm gonna say this, this is, this is going to be my politically correct answer, but it's also my authentic true self. So this is the. I'm not gonna say this is a medium, but authentically me as a individual, I am not well researched enough on the monstrosities of the healthcare industry and what the guy that got killed had to do with it. I just know that the American healthcare industry is up. So I don't want to speak on the assassination of that particular individual without doing my proper research on what that particular individual had to do with the overall scope of the fucked up.
- [49:07]
DJ Envy
You already put free Luigi you picked.
- [49:08]
Just Hilarious
Aside, you know, free that nigga.
- [49:11]
Cordae
Well, your initial caption was do you feel guilty on vacation? Explain that.
- [49:17]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, because yeah, I do. Because not. Yeah, it's just like you there and you're kind of thinking like, okay, what could I be doing? What else could I be doing? Like working versus like, you know, you know, just chilling. But sometimes you gotta as an artist too. You gotta live life to have shit to talk about. Or else you just gonna talk about I'm in the studio all day working, nigga. Grinding bars is life, you know what I'm saying? Like you gotta live life to talk about it. And so yeah, man, like again, this is, this whole entertainment business is like a journey, you know what I'm saying? Like when you first started to where you're at has been level up a journey, you know what I'm saying? Same to all of y'all, you know what I'm saying? And so I'm recognizing and sometimes that difficult point, it's all these self help books about how to get from 0 to 100. But you kind of got to figure out yourself when you reach that first major milestone, a big goal about how to get to that next level. That's some you got to figure out like through trial and error, through mentorship, through community, or through, you know, up and so like, like I said, like, I'm super blessed, bro. I can acknowledge the fact that I'm super blessed. I thank God every day, literally. But I still have a lot more to do. And I know the work that that takes, the dedication that that takes, and the thick skin that that takes. Pause.
- [50:35]
DJ Envy
A good book that you can get is the big leap.
- [50:37]
Just Hilarious
Okay?
- [50:37]
DJ Envy
Conquer your hidden fear and take life to the next level by Gay Hendricks. That's really his name.
- [50:43]
Just Hilarious
Okay.
- [50:43]
DJ Envy
And it's a fantastic book. It's for people who are at 100 who are looking to either stay there or get to that, that next level.
- [50:52]
Just Hilarious
Well, see, that's why mentors are important. Because I just said there isn't a book that exists.
- [50:56]
DJ Envy
And you know what's funny? Questlove put me onto that book a couple of years ago.
- [51:00]
Just Hilarious
You know, it's funny, I was watching y'all interview with Nip a couple weeks ago. Yeah, RIP Nip. And that had me pick up the way of the superior man, you know what I'm saying? So I've been reading that and while I bought the book, I read like four pages of it. Don't, you know, whatever. So audio. Yeah, yeah. Now I, I, I enjoy reading cuz I like highlighting it to where like I like to go back to it and. But yeah, no. So yeah, each one teach one. So thank you for that. I definitely picked that up another line.
- [51:29]
DJ Envy
On never see it you said you would never see me partying with the Michael Rubins.
- [51:33]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [51:34]
DJ Envy
Why is that?
- [51:35]
Just Hilarious
So, look, let me say this, right. He has this. It's. It's crazy because he has this program called Reform that actually got that. That does amazing work, honestly. And it got a bunch of people out. It actually got, like, some of my closest friends out of jail, like, straight up out of prison. Like, got them an appeal. Like, they do amazing work, right? So I will want to start off by saying that, but, I mean, bro, it's just going back to that place of me being a free creative in the studio is like, yo, this just seem a little off. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, it's crazy. I actually. I've never met that before. Before I said that line.
- [52:11]
DJ Envy
He's not in one. Not a.
- [52:14]
Just Hilarious
You know what I mean? Not a. Why you nitpicking me, man? Damn.
- [52:23]
DJ Envy
Want to be correct here.
- [52:25]
Just Hilarious
Oh, my God. Any who.
- [52:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
You never met him before.
- [52:28]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, yeah. So I never. When I said that line in the like, again. So going back to you up my train of thought.
- [52:33]
Cordae
Yo, Cor, keep getting up like, damn.
- [52:37]
Just Hilarious
It is impossible for me. Me to. So. So going back to my point earlier of, like, I just want to be a free creative, you know what I'm saying? And say what I feel if I think some. And that includes humor, you know what I'm saying? Some of my favorite rappers had, like, social commentary through humor. And so, like, I've always done that since the very beginning. But when I got lit and to lose, I stopped doing it as much because I didn't want to burn bridges, you know what I'm saying? And so I say this to say we all. It's just me joking. I see some online, the behind the back hugs, I'm like, yo, that is crazy. You don't see me doing that. And so funny enough. And again, acknowledging. I did want to acknowledge he has this program called Reform that does amazing thing, right? So when I said that line, I have never met this day in my life. One week after that song come out, I meet this nigga, and he's hella cool at a commander's game. Did he hug you? Huh?
- [53:27]
Cordae
He hugged you?
- [53:28]
Just Hilarious
Not.
- [53:29]
Cordae
I ain't say behind. I just said, did he hug you, man?
- [53:32]
Just Hilarious
Look that. I said what I said. I dapped him up. He's actually hella fucking cool. And like I said, the work he does with Reform is amazing. And so I think as an artist, I can acknowledge that he does amazing. His. His. His program Charity reform. And I'm sure he does a bunch of other amazing. For community is great. But then also. Yo, that is funny. You know what I'm saying?
- [53:56]
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, I just.
- [53:57]
Just Hilarious
No, no.
- [53:58]
DJ Envy
And he's put a lot of money in black. Black people's pockets. Yeah. I just had a. I had an interesting conversation with Lil Baby recently, and he. He was talking about that, and I think that, you know, sometimes people just really go where the information is.
- [54:11]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, no, exactly. And he's. He's one who. Who is from even. Like, I only met this dude one time and he was like. Like, I. Again, I felt kind of bad after meeting because, you know, when you see online and you just like, I'm making fun of it, but then when you actually meet the person, they become a real person. And so. Which is also what fans think of artists. So. You know what I'm saying? It's like the duality of it. So not. I met him and he became a real person, but like, when I met him, I'm like, oh, wow, you're like. You're really. You're the complete opposite of what I thought you were like.
- [54:39]
Cordae
That's how everybody's at your parties because you're super cool.
- [54:41]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So.
- [54:42]
DJ Envy
So you would go to one of his parties.
- [54:44]
Just Hilarious
No, I can't now. I still. I can't. I still can't.
- [54:47]
DJ Envy
Naomi, but not you.
- [54:49]
Just Hilarious
Then she. I don't know. I don't know.
- [54:56]
Cordae
If I commit any crimes, I'm committing it with this. He ain't gonna talk about the interview. He might rap about it, but he ain't talking.
- [55:00]
Charlamagne Tha God
Gonna talk about it at all.
- [55:02]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, yeah. That's funny. That's worse now, rapping about it and talking about it.
- [55:07]
DJ Envy
Did you ever connect with Dr. Umar?
- [55:09]
Just Hilarious
No, I didn't. No.
- [55:10]
DJ Envy
Okay.
- [55:11]
Just Hilarious
Yeah. No.
- [55:12]
Cordae
Why would he have to. He was dating a white woman.
- [55:14]
Just Hilarious
No, never in life. Never in life. But not to say there's anything wrong with bunny hopping. And I'm just saying I wouldn't do that, you know, whatever. But what. What? Do what? You know, they time is what they do.
- [55:27]
DJ Envy
Now I remember Umayya made some comments up here about Naomi.
- [55:31]
Just Hilarious
He did? Yeah.
- [55:32]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
- [55:33]
Cordae
What the.
- [55:34]
Just Hilarious
What a fight.
- [55:34]
DJ Envy
How am I tripping?
- [55:36]
Just Hilarious
I don't know, but. Oh, I was getting his number.
- [55:38]
DJ Envy
Yeah. Cause he wanted her to play for her national team or something like that. Or it was something like that.
- [55:42]
Charlamagne Tha God
You see how. You see how he killed? He made it seem like it was.
- [55:44]
Cordae
Bad and he turned into Ice Cube.
- [55:47]
Just Hilarious
Said Woody sweat. If he. He's just misinformed. He just doesn't have all the information. We don't. Let's not pull it up, okay? Let's not pull it up. I know. This is crazy. What? This is the same. Get these new. Sorry.
- [56:02]
DJ Envy
The thing is, there's a lot of great history that has happened on that.
- [56:06]
Just Hilarious
I had to take HSAs on this. And y'all still using this, man, y'all should be a shame to y yourself. Ain't no y'all. I got apple. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [56:17]
DJ Envy
Keep it classic, like an npc. Now you're in the studio.
- [56:20]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, okay, but so I had this idea. So I wasn't aware of that, but he probably just was misinformed. But I had this idea of having him in a music video and. Yeah, that. I had this idea of me having him in the music video. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it. But I. Man, look, you know, I. I gotta see what he said, but, you know. Yeah, but I thought I. I agree with a lot of, you know, that Lauren says, like, 50.
- [56:50]
DJ Envy
Oh, yeah. He was talking about representing her, representing Japan in the Olympics. That's it.
- [56:53]
Charlamagne Tha God
He didn't want to hear it.
- [56:54]
DJ Envy
Oh, God, no. The producer just texted to me.
- [56:59]
Just Hilarious
Oh, these niggas are messy. They're just like, get on it, get on it. I closed it. Y'all see how play I am, right? I not only took the laptop, I switched it. The devil be working, bro.
- [57:12]
DJ Envy
Who is Shayafini? Put me on to what that means. Means I don't.
- [57:14]
Just Hilarious
Oh, that's Shy Feeney. That's my daughter. Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [57:17]
DJ Envy
Okay. Got you. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
- [57:19]
Charlamagne Tha God
Producers didn't send him that one.
- [57:20]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, that's a dope name. The producer was probably a white man, huh? That'd be a damn shame.
- [57:28]
DJ Envy
You think Dr. Wall would come up here so much if we had white producers?
- [57:31]
Just Hilarious
I got white cameramen.
- [57:32]
DJ Envy
He's not white.
- [57:33]
Just Hilarious
No, I'm joking. I'm sorry.
- [57:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
He is white.
- [57:35]
DJ Envy
No, he's not. What is he, Italian?
- [57:37]
Charlamagne Tha God
Italian is white.
- [57:38]
Cordae
That's a different kind. It's, like, off white.
- [57:39]
Just Hilarious
My nigga.
- [57:40]
DJ Envy
He's Puerto Rican.
- [57:41]
Cordae
Yeah, yeah.
- [57:43]
Just Hilarious
Not that it matters, okay? Not that it matters. We all love each other. You know what I'm saying? We love each other. We all. I got. Hey, look, man, I got. I got a lot of white Corday fans, and I love all of them. You know what I'm saying? I got a lot of love for, you know, everybody on Earth, you know?
- [58:01]
Cordae
Okay.
- [58:02]
DJ Envy
I Do have one last question, I guess.
- [58:03]
Just Hilarious
Oh, God, no, no. Come on.
- [58:07]
DJ Envy
No, but your album is fantastic. This is just a personal thing.
- [58:10]
Just Hilarious
Let's leave on that note. Now, I'm trying. I want. You go ahead.
- [58:12]
DJ Envy
As a man, what did you do to help your lady get through her postpartum?
- [58:17]
Just Hilarious
Hmm? Oh, my God.
- [58:21]
DJ Envy
Just for the men, though. You don't gotta get personal with her.
- [58:23]
Just Hilarious
Just for the men.
- [58:23]
DJ Envy
What do men. What should men do? And I got four daughters. But what should men do in that situation? Especially young men that are a quarter life crisis.
- [58:30]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, Yeah. I would say. I don't know. I don't want to act like I'm the perfect person and be giving advice. I'm the perfect example of what to do is just be as present as you can and be as understanding as you can and be a man, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
- [58:53]
DJ Envy
All right.
- [58:54]
Just Hilarious
Yeah. Just. Yeah, be understanding. Be as understanding and. Yeah, and be as present as you possibly can, you know?
- [59:01]
Charlamagne Tha God
But let's listen to something off the album. What you want to hear off the album, man?
- [59:03]
Just Hilarious
I don't know, man.
- [59:04]
DJ Envy
Let's do Saturday Morning.
- [59:05]
Just Hilarious
I'm fucking with you. Yeah, I do.
- [59:06]
DJ Envy
Fat Shane Broad Wave. Let's do that one.
- [59:08]
Just Hilarious
Oh, my God. Oh, my. This is crazy. Crazy.
- [59:10]
DJ Envy
Salute to Rock Wave. Love, Rob. Yeah, now, I f. No, people misunderstood that line.
- [59:14]
Just Hilarious
I think, though, what is there to misunderstand?
- [59:17]
DJ Envy
I'm dealing with a lot of problems. I don't know if y'all can relate. Feeling like Rod Wave. I got a lot on my plate.
- [59:21]
Charlamagne Tha God
He didn't mean, fool.
- [59:22]
Just Hilarious
He not saying, saying.
- [59:24]
Charlamagne Tha God
He saying a lot of responsibilities.
- [59:26]
Cordae
Yo, when the black Scully go on. This man is crazy.
- [59:30]
Just Hilarious
This man. Yo, who. What color air forces do this man? I mean, but that goes back to, like, my, like, freedom as an art. Like, me expressing, like, my sense of humor and my freedom as a. Like, this is hip hop. Yeah, it is. So I say to say that goes back to the point I made earlier. Like, me just being as free as I possibly can versus me, like, worrying about what people think. But, I mean, bro makes dope music, obviously.
- [59:56]
DJ Envy
Absolutely.
- [59:56]
Just Hilarious
You know what I'm saying? Great artist. So. Yeah.
- [59:58]
Cordae
Yeah. You were saying, like, he just always stressed out about some shit.
- [60:01]
Just Hilarious
I think the bar is like, my bad. I don't want to do this to you, Jay. It's like. Yeah, it's like. It's. It's there. It's there. It's very. Is there.
- [60:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, can I leave now, please?
- [60:13]
Cordae
He's so funny and we realize.
- [60:16]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, it's there.
- [60:16]
DJ Envy
It's all jokes aside, Corday is dope. I've always thought Cor was dope. He's one of them ones. I think when I. We was having this conversation recently.
- [60:24]
Just Hilarious
Thank you.
- [60:24]
DJ Envy
When Nyla was playing, she was doing Path Dogs. He played something off.
- [60:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
He was supposed to come last.
- [60:28]
Just Hilarious
He was.
- [60:28]
Charlamagne Tha God
I think it was like a month ago. He was supposed to come and we talked about it before he got here, but he canceled on us.
- [60:31]
DJ Envy
Cuz I was just talking about, like, like the new big three. I don't say big three, but like this new era of artists.
- [60:37]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [60:38]
DJ Envy
Because, you know, Kendrick and Cole and Drake. That's the last generation.
- [60:41]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [60:41]
DJ Envy
For this generation, I feel like you got to put your. Your name in there personally.
- [60:45]
Just Hilarious
Nah. Yeah, it's there for sure. I appreciate that.
- [60:48]
DJ Envy
Absolutely.
- [60:48]
Just Hilarious
That doesn't warrant all the. He's done before, but now I'm with you. Thank you. Nah, thank you, bro. And I'm glad. Yo, this is. This is great. I've had. Honestly, despite the jokes, I had a. A good time on here, so thank you, man. Definitely. No, no, I'm gonna come back, man. I'm always plateau.
- [61:05]
Charlamagne Tha God
Talk about gay ears. He's like, nah, I'm good.
- [61:07]
Just Hilarious
Oh, my God.
- [61:08]
DJ Envy
The crossroads out now.
- [61:09]
Just Hilarious
Yeah, I know.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Let's get into the joint right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning squad day, y'all.
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Just Hilarious
Good morning, y'all.
- [61:15]
DJ Envy
Wake that ass up early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
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