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Dame Dash
Every day I wake up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club Do y' all finished or y' all done?
DJ Envy
Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne. The Guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh.
DJ Envy
Ladies and gentlemen, he's back. Dame Dash, ladies and gentlemen.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning.
Dame Dash
Dame. What's happening? I'm. Good morning.
DJ Envy
Well, how you feeling? First and foremost, I feel great.
Dame Dash
Well, first, I want to say that I really appreciate y' all coming in.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Pause.
Dame Dash
Having a face to face conversation.
DJ Envy
To the mic. To the mic.
Dame Dash
A face to face conversation with me. So, like, you know, in the street, when people want to sit down and talk, that respect each other, even if they beefing at the table because y' all came to the table, there has to be respect. So I got the respect y', all, and I'm gonna respect. I want y' all to respect me. And first, I want to give y' all some gifts. Nicolette, that's. Remember the little white. Little white lesbian, Aaliyah. Oh, my God. Hi, Nicolette. That's her. That's the little white. That's like, her. I will not call you that. But.
Host Producer
Remember, he said that.
Dame Dash
That was. That. That's what hit the littlebody.
Host Producer
Picked it up.
Dame Dash
I said it because that's what she reminds me of, but.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah. Got you.
Dame Dash
That's her right there. Yeah, I got a record with her. She's. She reminds you of a little white. She is a white lesbian. If. If Aaliyah was white, she probably would have been like. Because she's a little dark, too. So I'd be like, you act like a white girl version of Aaliyah. Like, she'd be a lesbian, and then.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't think that hurts artists when.
DJ Envy
Y' all do that, though, comparing other people.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, because it sets the bar and it gets people.
Dame Dash
Why do you think I compared her? Because of her singing.
Charlamagne Tha God
Her singing?
Dame Dash
Our artistry. I. I was comparing her because of the person that she is. There's a lot of things about Aaliyah that I was in love with that y' all don't know at all. This is. This is Black guns vinyl, which, by the way, we. I guess I'll make this announcement that we are now being considered for a Grammy, so make sure. Congratulations. Thank you. Even though you never. Oh, yeah, I did play it. You've been looking out. I appreciate you. Look, he was about to say that we didn't. No, I wasn't.
Host Producer
You text me and say.
Dame Dash
I remember. I did say also. I know. I know y' all all got kids or have grandkids or whatever. Yes. This is my girl's book that she wrote. This is one. This book sold 80,000. Okay. Books independently, you know, for the family office. And then this is her second book. But we did that independent, and we go around to the schools and we make sure the kids have books. Like one out of 16 kids, I mean, don't have books. I mean, rather like every 16 kids. I forgot to stat. Yeah, but, you know, you never seen me doing that on. I seen you do dust, go to space and going to the schools.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I never seen you go to the schools.
Dame Dash
Ain't you on my Instagram? Yeah. Oh, you never saw that. You see the other stuff, but you never see me go to the schools. You never say nothing about that. That's what I'd be wondering. We're gonna talk about that today. Let's talk about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
You said let's do the verbal fair one.
Dame Dash
I do. And again, I appreciate it. So let's do some boundaries, right? Because everyone says I yell. What happens is when people cut me off, I talk louder. So if you cut me off, I'm gonna talk louder. It's not going to be any disrespect. I just don't like being cut off. Because I want you to. I want to be able to complete my point. And I'll do this, give you the same respect. So let's do this. I'd like you to every single thing that you've been saying when I'm not here and question you've had. Now that I'm here, I'd like you to ask me. You, too. Because I heard. I saw the stuff y' all said. I posted it just because I'm like, when I see them, we'll talk about it. So what were your questions? You were saying something.
Charlamagne Tha God
My first question was about the Paid in Full.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
What about it?
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you own Paid in Full? Like, how did 50 Cent acquire ownership of Paid in Full?
Dame Dash
Let me ask you a question. Let's put this in.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's not how this works.
Dame Dash
No, I'm sorry.
Charlamagne Tha God
I asked the question.
Dame Dash
You just cut me off right now. I want you to notice every time you do that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. Okay.
Dame Dash
Okay. And you would get. They would say, I'm bugging if I yell, but please let me complete my sentence. And please don't tell me how we do things. That's going to be a trigger. So I'm just talking normally. Do you remember when 50 Cent was supposed to be putting out a documentary about Puff on Netflix?
DJ Envy
Yes.
Dame Dash
Where is it?
Charlamagne Tha God
I think it's still happening.
Dame Dash
Yeah, right. He's capping, so I'm you know, I talk a different language than most people. I'm a boss. So, number one, there is no rights to be bought. So I knew he was trolling. And you gotta remember, KM tried to have my son. Come on. Let me ask you this. Do you think messing with people's children is all right? Can you answer that question? No. See, that's not fair.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cause you didn't answer the original question.
Dame Dash
I did answer it. I just told you he's capping, so.
Charlamagne Tha God
He didn't get the rights to it.
Dame Dash
How would if you. That's the thing is. You know what the problem is? The problem is how you cut me off again.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm asking you a question for you.
Dame Dash
To cut me off again. See this?
Charlamagne Tha God
No.
Dame Dash
Let's take a commercial break. You keep cutting me. You don't think that's problematic that you keep cutting people off and I'm in your interview? Okay, you're really trying to tell me how to answer and you expect me not. Are you trying to trigger me?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I just want you to answer.
Dame Dash
Okay, so then let me. How can I answer? You can cut me off.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay?
Dame Dash
I told you, he doesn't have the rights. No one has the rights. Who are you gonna buy the rights from? I wasn't planning on making paid in full about those people again. I was making my paid in full. And, you know, you don't have to buy the rights. I was actually there, so, you know, 50 trolls. And I was saying. And I felt like you were interrupting me, and I'd like you to answer my question now. Do you feel like I've answered yours?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Dame Dash
Do you think it's all right to bring people's children involved?
Charlamagne Tha God
No.
Dame Dash
Did you know that Cam called my son and tried to give him money?
Charlamagne Tha God
I heard you say that.
Dame Dash
You think that's okay?
Charlamagne Tha God
I need to know what he gave him. Try to give me.
Dame Dash
It doesn't matter. He's my. Okay. Do you think that you might have.
Charlamagne Tha God
Offered him a job? I don't know.
Dame Dash
I have heard your answer. Do you think it's okay I don't know their relationship?
DJ Envy
Like, y. Y' all from the same place? Like, he might look at Cam as. I don't know, the relationship. There is no relationship.
Dame Dash
Do you know it?
DJ Envy
Then I get it.
Dame Dash
We're different. I got you.
DJ Envy
Charlemagne calls my son and says, yo, Logan, here's something.
Dame Dash
While y' all beefing, I wouldn't have a problem. You know, that sounds like. It's not. It does. Because, you know. And you have emotional intelligence. Absolutely. You're up here. And let me just say one more. Okay, Let me finish that. Yeah. You should know that if someone's beefing with someone, you don't tell their kids. And you don't get with that person's children. And you know better than that. So don't act stupid.
DJ Envy
If y' all are beefing, then that's something different.
Charlamagne Tha God
Are y' all really beefing, though? Would you call it beef? You said it's not beef. Well, that's your brother.
Dame Dash
It's not. I. I'm not going to get violent. It's definitely like him coming pause against me is almost like Fredo going against Michael Corleone. You understand what I'm saying? Do you watch the Godfather? What's your favorite movie?
Charlamagne Tha God
Depends. My favorite mafia movie, Goodfellas.
Dame Dash
I just said okay. Mine too. So you know the rules, right? My favorite movie of all time is the Godfather. I studied it. I read the book. It burnt me out. Remember Godfather, too, when he pretended to be weak, Then he took out the five families. And then his brother Fredo betrayed him. See, betrayal is something that happens over and over again. Can never expect not to get betrayed by your brother. You remember last time I was here, I said, you don't mess with. I don't be around men. So we all know they betrayed Jesus. I said this.
Charlamagne Tha God
You walked in with a man.
Dame Dash
Can I finish, please? Control the man. Don't you do the therapy thing?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, but you.
Dame Dash
I want you to ask your therapist. Do you interrupt people? And how problematic that is at this age?
Charlamagne Tha God
But you know, you said you don't be around men. You stop cutting them off.
Dame Dash
See, there's the emotional intelligence. Now you're going to go in on my words. Dom, come on, man. Let's move forward. Let's move with F1 speed. Don't pretend to be foolish. You know, you're talking to a smart man. You know, you made me forget what I was going to say. See, that's why.
DJ Envy
Movie about.
Dame Dash
Oh, Godfather. Correct. So do you remember he pretended to be weak. His crew was like, yo, why you letting him push and muscle us? And then all of a sudden, he hit the five families in one day, waited for his mother to die, asked his little brother to come to the lake house and popped him. I watched that movie. I like the way the Godfather moves. So just keep that in mind. Next question.
DJ Envy
I do have a question.
Dame Dash
Well, yeah. Cause you were saying, why don't you address the things we are asking?
DJ Envy
We'll get into that. First question I have is, we know Dame Dash. Businessman, entrepreneur, right?
Dame Dash
Chairman.
DJ Envy
Worth Close to 100 million at one time.
Dame Dash
Never 50 million.
DJ Envy
That says never 30 million.
Dame Dash
I never had that much money to look at in my life.
DJ Envy
They say that the net worth was about 30 to 50 million.
Dame Dash
This is the thing. You guys believe the Internet. You guys are adults that believe what you read and hear in the newspaper. And y' all talk the most. Not. So you guys are talking about things with no research. That's not fair. See, the problem is. And this is actually, I want to keep it on you, so.
DJ Envy
So my question. Could you cut me a question?
Dame Dash
Yeah, I'm sorry.
DJ Envy
So my question.
Charlamagne Tha God
You cut him off, too?
Dame Dash
Damn. I said sorry. That's called that. That's called.
Host Producer
You've been in therapy, you said sorry.
Dame Dash
I always say sorry. I just don't. You haven't been here?
Host Producer
No, I haven't.
Dame Dash
The thing is, he'll be cutting me off, and then I'll get triggered. I. I watched and I was like, oh. Because he cuts me off. That's what makes me.
DJ Envy
So my question, as a businessman, entrepreneur, chairman, right? Boss.
Dame Dash
Yeah.
DJ Envy
You go from having a huge value to being in the negative. How does that happen? From being a boss? Explain it down. Break that down for people that follow you, they aspire to be you.
Dame Dash
I'm gonna tell you, please. So the reason why I filed was because I've had $20 million of taxes. First off, do you know anybody that paid $25 million of taxes in your life? Name one person. You know. I don't. Yeah. Okay, so why would I be the first? Nobody does that. That's what Chapter is for. The problem with filing is black people don't file because they don't understand it. And that's why when you guys talk about things, I wish you'd really do your research. Chat. GBT does exist. So if you really wanted to know how 50 bought it, ask Chad. GBT. How could he have bought it? Who could he have bought it from? Did you hear an announcement in Deadline? Do you even read Deadline? Yeah. So then if it wasn't in Deadline.
Charlamagne Tha God
Deadline. Several times.
Dame Dash
You didn't drive the meeting. If you want to. If you. If. If you were in debt, if you read Deadline, if you. If you know about Deadline, why wasn't there announcement in any trade magazine if it's not announced in the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, or whatever trade wwd, you can't believe it.
Host Producer
Why, though? Because most of the time, he didn't answer my question.
DJ Envy
That's the question I wanted to know how he got to a particular way you were in the.
Dame Dash
That was the question. Let me tell you. So again, number one, most companies aren't owned like rich people, rich families. They don't put anything in their name. They build their family office. So I filed because, again, I've had $20 million, 30 of taxes. But they don't bother me because in order to have $30 million means you made a lot. So in order to pay it back, I can't get a job to pay it back. I got to keep investing until I could pay it back. Nothing could be in my name. They put liens on all my accounts years ago. So that's why when they said, there's nothing in your account, I don't have an account, how could I open one? They leaned it. So I've been building my family office. So you have no assets. I have no assets but my family. That's all I care about. You know what I'm saying? So I file because, you know, that guy Chris Brown has been suing me. And I was going to make a bunch of very major family people listen.
DJ Envy
He's not talking about the artists and the singer, Chris Brown, because people will think that.
Dame Dash
Because I didn't mind you interrupting me to do that, I apologize.
DJ Envy
But I wanted to clear things up.
Dame Dash
I appreciate that. So every time I was launching something with my family office, he sends a letter saying that, you know, I'd owe the money, but it was my family office. But it muddies the waters. So if you have a contract, especially working here, and somebody sent a bum letter, as soon as it's a lawyer, it shuts down. It muddies the waters. I was about to make some major announcements. You want to hear one? Sure. I'm now the chairman of Revolt right now. And I also. I have 50 deserve to be the chairman. I got you. So I'm now the chairman of Revolt with a pathway, you see, because he wants to trigger me, and I want you to acknowledge that. So I'm now Cam's boss, the chairman of Revolt with a pathway to acquisition. I've been trying to buy.
Charlamagne Tha God
We know this not Cap. We see this on deadline.
Dame Dash
Can you stop yell. Can you stop interrupting me, please? So deadline wasn't. Didn't make the announcement for this particular situation. They didn't want to. I had an announcement I was going to make with bet, but Paramount stepped in and they said, do it later. And they didn't want to be a part of this mess. But it will be in something. You know, this gets played tomorrow so the announcement will be in the trades tomorrow. So I've been trying to buy Revolt, and I also just did a 25 episode deal for. For my podcast for Bosses Take Losses. And I'm putting all my content on Revolt.
Charlamagne Tha God
Dope.
Dame Dash
Yes. You know, so that I can see how to monitor. I have to put together a certain kind of a plan for acquisition. So in the next 30 days, I'm gonna just be a real chairman and play all these movies. And then I'm going to. And then I'm going to. Hopefully I'll stay the chairman, but I gotta go make movies.
DJ Envy
Somebody would say, how. How would you buy Revival?
Dame Dash
Why wouldn't you say congratulations?
DJ Envy
We did say congratulations.
Dame Dash
You don't seem excited. No. Congratulations. You have to understand something. Let me finish. Right, right, right, right.
DJ Envy
But somebody would say, well, now you're.
Dame Dash
Now you're gonna be the Mr. Research, but you asking me why 50 Cent. But you guys got fooled. Wait, wait, let me finish. Let me finish real quick. I'm announcing it the day before it's announced. Remember that? So I wasn't gonna announce it and say it here. I wouldn't have the. You know, I mean, so I did it and I timed it where it would come out. When this comes out, so tomorrow there'll be an announcement. Also, I'm putting. Because I've already made my Paid in full. I made that already. It's already trademarked. You don't have to clear the rights because we lived it. You know what I'm saying? So that movie's gonna come out. That TV show is gonna. I'm start with the docu series. You want to see the trailer? Of course, because I've already made it. It's done. But just back to what you're saying about money. Do y' all really think anybody. Oh, I'm a rookie. Do you think anybody actually uses their own money when they acquire something? Do you think that sometimes.
DJ Envy
Sometimes people do.
Dame Dash
Yo, I feel sorry for you, bro. Sometimes people.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you taught us that.
Dame Dash
You said, no, I didn't.
Charlamagne Tha God
You said, if you don't put up your own money. I said, if you don't put up your own money, you're not the boss.
Dame Dash
And that's why I'm trying to tell you, nobody's a boy. I'm. I put up my own money. So let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. I think you guys have to get up. We'll do that again. Let me ask a quick question. If somebody gets a loan for $180 million, are they rich or broke?
DJ Envy
No, they're not rich. They're responsible for.
Dame Dash
It's a loan. So you don't think. So if the billionaire that you think all. Every billionaire, you know. So if they have a loan for $100 million alone and I have no debt, who got more money? What happened?
Charlamagne Tha God
Say it again.
Dame Dash
Now, if someone gives someone a loan. 180 million.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Dame Dash
And I have no debt, who's worth more?
DJ Envy
The billionaire. He's still a billionaire.
Dame Dash
Who has a loan or not? You really think so?
DJ Envy
A billionaire.
Dame Dash
So someone that. Okay, let's do it again.
Host Producer
You. Because you have no debt.
Dame Dash
Let me make it a little more simple. Hold on. Let me make it a little more simple. Okay. Do you consider somebody rich if they have $180 million loan?
DJ Envy
Depends on how much money they bring and how much profit they're bringing. If a billionaire has $180 million loan.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
No.
Dame Dash
Yeah. They're still a billionaire. Not if they owe. No. How do you. Wait, let me. Have you ever been a billionaire?
DJ Envy
I've never.
Dame Dash
So how would you know? Because you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because you're asking people that ain't never been doing it.
Dame Dash
No, no, no. I want to know what your perspective was on the loan. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You don't understand the question. I do understand the question now, so answer it.
Charlamagne Tha God
If somebody gave me $180 million loan.
Dame Dash
You owe them 180. You got to work, you know, a spending. Wait, stop, stop, stop. No.
Charlamagne Tha God
You are broke. Until I can't pay.
Dame Dash
So you never sold drugs, have you? Yeah, I did so when some. What?
Charlamagne Tha God
Quarter spoon.
Dame Dash
Quarter spoon? What is that? Nobody says quarter spoon. You didn't sell. Stop lying. You're talking to ex drug.
Charlamagne Tha God
You already said quarter spoon. I didn't say I was a king. Who did?
Dame Dash
You weren't a king, nothing.
Charlamagne Tha God
You was a pig pen.
Dame Dash
Let me ask you a question.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is that an honorable profession?
Dame Dash
I. I'm not saying. I'm just saying the reason why you don't understand something. The minute I give you a loan, you owe me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Dame Dash
And the more money I give you, the nicer you have to be to me. You have to do whatever I say. And that's the reason why I decided to use my own money. Because they would try to give me money. But tell me what to do. I'm going to tell you something. In business, as long as I'm paying.
Charlamagne Tha God
The loan back, it's not a problem.
Dame Dash
You're triggering me. You're trying to get me out of pocket. No, but as long as you do that. I'm going to take a break and go take a joint because I don't want to argue with you. I want to stay respectful. Okay, Stop interrupting me.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm gonna give you the same respect you give in the room, but go.
DJ Envy
Ahead, continue on, Dave.
Dame Dash
Thank you. You guys don't know about business, so don't talk so confidently about it because people might ask me again. Oh, my God.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're not answering.
Dame Dash
That's gonna cut me off. Yeah, can you talk to them until I'm stop. Oh, y' all gotta chill in here because you. Right. They're gonna say I'm bugging it. Yeah, I know. Chill out. Yo, I just. Stop cutting. My bad.
DJ Envy
Dame. Go ahead.
Dame Dash
You don't know about business. And you say things I said. You. You can't. You can't say things you don't know and sound confident, because people listen to you. And you get in the algorithm, do your research before you start spreading things.
Charlamagne Tha God
What did we say wrong?
Dame Dash
What did we say wrong? You said 50 got the rights. You just said.
Charlamagne Tha God
And you repost. And dame reposted me. Hold on. You actually reposted me.
Dame Dash
Please.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I asked a question, being a bully.
Host Producer
We gotta come. You gotta come back. You gotta come back.
Dame Dash
This is an interview. You keep interrupting.
Host Producer
Okay, I have a question.
Dame Dash
I didn't finish my thought. You see what's going on now? If I started yelling, they'd be saying I'm bugging. Yeah, but this is. Remember I told you this is how I get triggered. Just let me teach. If you don't know, listen. Listen to the teacher. I'm teaching you right now because this is a business. You don't know. You've been in this room for 30 years straight. Every. So you're missing a lot of life.
Charlamagne Tha God
Not really.
Dame Dash
Well, then stop spe.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're just wrong.
Dame Dash
But you're just wrong on a respect level. You're wrong.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't think you really got a lesson plan.
Dame Dash
Every time you interrupt me because you're so rich, you give me $20, okay? Can you do that? Because you know you got. So let me ask you another question. Do you think it's respectful when someone gives you their boundaries, you just break them and keep laughing? You think that's all right? I'm just asking.
Charlamagne Tha God
Can I speak?
Dame Dash
I'm giving. I just need an answer. This is the only time you don't speak, is when I ask you questions. Anyway, you guys shouldn't speak so confidently without doing research. This is what you're saying. I don't know. You're asking me the things you said, so I'm telling you right now. The reason why I filed was because I didn't want anybody to keep suing me because he also kept suing me. So now I can't get sued. And if you look at. Did you read the. Did you read the bankruptcy? Did you read at the end when it says who I'm assume. Because it says who you gonna sue? And it has a list of people. Did you read that? She broke it down, Right. So they can't sue me, but I can sue them now.
Host Producer
But what my question cut them off. Yeah, I'd had to, because, no, she didn't do anything.
Dame Dash
She was fine. You guys are disrespectful.
Host Producer
While we're here on the bankruptcy, right? So from what I learned in my.
Dame Dash
Research, so now that I've said I'm. I'm on a pathway to acquisitions for chairman, y' all still think I'm broke. This. I don't get it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, you can still get a job.
Dame Dash
And I just said I had. Okay, here's something else. So I have a deal with Simon Schuster. I'm sorry.
Host Producer
Okay, so on the bankruptcy, what happens if all of the debt isn't discharged? What do you do then?
Dame Dash
Because it's a chapter seven.
Host Producer
But I. So for instance, Weber, the attorney, he filed something this morning saying that what you claim is fraudulent, right? That you know, you know why.
Dame Dash
That, you know why that is.
Host Producer
But wait, let me finish talking. And he's asking, and he's bringing the point that everything might not be discharged. So I'm at, like, what happens in that?
Dame Dash
It doesn't happen. He's just. He's a stupid. Allegedly. He's not the smartest light in the room. You got to think. They've been suing me all over the country. This one person, different people, all over the country for 10 years, they sued me for over $500 million combined, and they only won $800,000 combined. They've been chasing that for 10 years. You know how much legal and law work that person's been doing? How much plotting he's been doing to collect that money? And he never collect. You know how mad he is right now? Now he doesn't get paid, so of course he's going to do that. But again, this is part of business. Just put your seatbelt on and watch how it plays out. But I don't. I've never filed before. Nothing. The reason why they think it's fraudulent. This is why I have to tell you this. You see how you saying it's fraudulent. He'll go into the court and say, I'm rich because he's trying to collect money. I've been telling y' all I was broke. Right? So that's the reason why. So I don't know what would happen if I. If. So how. If let's say everything in the judgment doesn't go. Nothing's still in my name, there's still nothing to collect. Okay, let me ask you this. Can you. Do you know how many times Donald Trump filed? Oh, a lot. Yeah. So then why.
Charlamagne Tha God
But he's known for terrible businessman. But no, he's not.
Dame Dash
He's the president.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, but.
Dame Dash
Sure.
Charlamagne Tha God
But he still was known as a terrible businessman. Actually a con man.
Dame Dash
Do you know how confidently dumb you sound? You're saying it's bad that he went bankrupt six times. He's a billionaire and he's the president.
Charlamagne Tha God
And you still not a terrible businessman and con artist.
Dame Dash
Are you known as a good businessman?
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know you.
Dame Dash
Okay, well, you make a lot of money?
Charlamagne Tha God
No.
Dame Dash
So you've been doing this every day your whole life and you're not making no money?
Charlamagne Tha God
Nope. Like you, Dan.
Dame Dash
No, you're not like me. What you mean?
Charlamagne Tha God
You say you don't have.
Dame Dash
Do you have a family office? I bet my house is bigger than yours. I bet all my houses are bigger than you. I better have a better now. It's. How old are you?
Charlamagne Tha God
This is embarrassing.
Dame Dash
You're embarrassed? Yeah. Cause I. Yeah, I got you. I bet. I like to see your view. Can you show me your view right now? Do you live in front of water?
DJ Envy
My house?
Dame Dash
Yeah. A view of what you see when you relax. When you're not here every day. See when you're in a decent. Let me just finish. Let me just see your view when you're. You just now said. Let's just go back to how ridiculous you are. The president filed for bankruptcy eight times. Still a billionaire. He's saying he's a bad businessman. You're just not that smart. Okay? And you have to acknowledge that. And you know why you're not seeing the world. You know what happens when you have to go someplace? You laughing. You know what happens when you have to go someplace every day at 4 in the morning? You can't go nowhere. You got to be here every day. You've been 15 years. You've missed the whole world. You don't know what you're talking about. And you're saying it confidently. And you're in an algorithm where people actually believe you out of response. And why you think they keep you here? They want y' all to make us dumb.
Charlamagne Tha God
But if you worked here.
Dame Dash
I would never work here.
Charlamagne Tha God
I would only say.
Dame Dash
What you talking about? I'm not in. I'm not indebted. Okay, stop right there. Stop right there. I'm not in debt at all. Now. What are you talking about?
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, you paid it all off.
Dame Dash
When you. When you have. Okay, this bankruptcy 7 is like getting hit by the cartel with a hundred bricks, and they die. You don't owe no more. I want you to ask someone that. You. This is what you should do if you want to do something smart. Get a specialist, a lawyer in bankruptcy. And you ask them these questions. Get a professional up here. And then they'll tell you why. Ask me. You know what I'm saying? Like. And then you. And then when he tells you you're dumb, you'll believe him anyway. The difference between you and I. Well, I don't think you're a proper representation of the masculine black man. You know what I'm saying? I don't think you guys are. I'm listening.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Dame Dash
Like, your OG is Wendy Williams. My OG is sitting right here. You see him, and I'm gonna tell you why he's my og. Because he's not. Because he killed anybody or any of those things. He just taught me how to be a better man. Can you stop? Can you stop? Wendy Williams, wasn't she your boss? Yeah, at one point. So she was your og. She put you on. And you should give her her grace, and you should also give her her props out of respect. But you. Because we have different trauma. Like, we're different. Like, I'm not the kind of guy that would like, I'd rather get my ass whipped than run. But you're proud that you ran. Yeah, I'd rather get my ass with. Let me ask you a question, Dan. You ever ran from a fight? What would happen if y' all heard that somebody. I ran from a fight. That's a masculine way of doing things. Now, you don't see it that way. You like to play, like, games. Like, I'm not quite. Because I only said kids. I was like. And it ain't no disrespect, but I kind of think you're gay. You just act a little gay.
Charlamagne Tha God
Problem with gay people?
Dame Dash
Not at all. I've got a problem with people that pretend they're not gay. So let me. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. Let me. You're gay. So what I'm saying is you might. Because you started in gossip, which is, you know, is very. Is very feminine. And you are acting like, you know, there's some degree of. Like, you want people to listen to you and that we want people that represent masculinity. Because men need to be doing what they need to do as men. They don't need to be worried about girl stuff, period. Talking about people that are in the room that don't have anything to do with them. Saying things confidently in front of millions of people and not saying anything you don't like. You know how many times I've seen people punk you? I would never let anybody talk to me certain way. I'd rather get my ass whipped. That's where we're different. We got different trauma. So you don't. You can't really look through my eyes because you do things differently.
Charlamagne Tha God
That much?
Dame Dash
No, I'm just. Do I look bothered? Yeah, I'm bothered. What I'm bothered about is you're speaking in front of people confidently and you don't have the experience or the knowledge. And also, I'm afraid that white people think that we act like you. You're not dumb, but, like. You know what's bugging me out?
DJ Envy
What do you mean, act like him? I just want you to.
Dame Dash
Yeah, I want to know. I'm saying. So the way you keep interrupting me, the way you keep saying things that aren't true but don't know.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like what? What did I say that's not true?
Dame Dash
Let me say what I'm saying. I was still talking. Okay, so. Because. Because when I do that, when y' all do that, I forget what I'm gonna say because I'd be like, you're not saying no. You don't think. Of course you don't think that you're. You know. I think you're gay. That's fine. I do. I'm. I'm not gonna lie. After. After the puff stuff. Let me say this. Let me say this. This is my assessment. I've never heard you say one thing bad about Jay Z. Not one.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's not in the room. You shouldn't talk about it.
Dame Dash
Don't tell me what to do.
Charlamagne Tha God
You said you shouldn't talk about men.
Dame Dash
You're interrupting me now.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're doing the girls.
Dame Dash
I know him. I'm giving you an example. Right?
Charlamagne Tha God
You used to know him.
Dame Dash
Can I talk? You upset? Can I talk? Can I talk? I've never seen you say one word because you talk bad about a lot of people, but you never said one time. And you walk around with his face on your chest. Is that an airplane shirt right now?
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Charlamagne Tha God
I will see you.
Dame Dash
Can I finish? No, I never seen it. Let me finish. Can I land the plane? Let me land the plane.
Charlamagne Tha God
I can't wait.
Dame Dash
Let me land the plane. So I'm thinking to myself, either you got a crush on this man, or he's paying you one or the other. Did you. Did you buy that shirt? Yes. You went and bought that? They didn't give it to. As much as you say nice things to support black business, I doubt you bought that shirt. What you mean. Anyway, so I think. I think you're gay. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. I think that.
DJ Envy
I think he's kind of gay, too.
Dame Dash
I think that.
DJ Envy
I do have a question.
Dame Dash
I think that. And no disrespect to gay. I just think.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think you're broke. Like I said, that bothers you so much to get called broke by people.
Dame Dash
I got you.
DJ Envy
I do have a question.
Dame Dash
I'm sure it does, right?
Charlamagne Tha God
Raise your hand if you think Dan's broken. Seriously.
Dame Dash
But this.
DJ Envy
This is the question, though.
Dame Dash
Can I make my other announcement? Yes. I have a book.
DJ Envy
I was talking.
Dame Dash
I was talking. You just. I. I have a book. I want to make another announcement. Make announcement. I have a book there with Simon Schuster. Congratulations. Thank you. And I've already. And I. You know the title of the book. I secured the rights for TV and all that. You know what the name of the book is?
DJ Envy
What's the name of it?
Dame Dash
Power. And I'm going to be putting a TV show on my own television network. Revolt. That's power with no debt. And you're calling me broke because I have no debt and you're telling me someone that gets $180 million loan is rich? You guys are dumb.
DJ Envy
A billionaire dumb. It doesn't matter.
Dame Dash
No, you. How do you know he's a billionaire? How. Not him, anybody. How could you? Listen, you said you. Wait, time out. Stop for a second. 480 million that you call a billionaire. I said. I said billionaires don't get loans. They have credit lines. I said that's what you said. Listen, listen. I said the people that you think are billionaires. That's what I said.
Charlamagne Tha God
So why you don't get a credit line?
Dame Dash
How do you know My family office doesn't.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, okay.
Dame Dash
I'm asking a question. I'm telling you right now. I run my family office. I signed a non disclosure. I mean a lot of talk about their business. But I could tell you this. When we do pay, because we just paid and I hope I'm in trouble, but we just pay like 600,000 in taxes. But they don't write about that. I had my family office had a lawsuit. Look at it. When the reason why you thought that my shit was getting taken because that was the Dash Group. That was my family office. We paid that. We pay those. I just don't.
Host Producer
That was the asset.
Dame Dash
No, no, no asset. Okay, let me explain the assets. Let me explain the assets in business. And I'm sure none of y' all know this when you get. When you get a copyright, I get copyrights. I get copyrights so that no one can sue me for using the name, but doesn't mean there's any value. So through the years I've gotten copyrights and then the business goes. So I haven't put a company in my name in since 2 17. Only thing that was in my name was reasonable doubt. And I couldn't file because then I would have had to take reasonable doubt to auction. Because when you file, they liquidate all your assets. That was the last thing that was in my name. So once that went and what was happening was they were reporting on my tax returns that I was getting 100 grand a year from reasonable doubt, but I was never getting sent it and they were asking me to pay taxes on it. That should have been going to the child support, but. So that money that was supposed to be going, that was. So when I'm behind on child support, it always gets paid. Right? I went to jail the last time I was behind it was a million. I paid it that sounds broke to you? If all my children and I pay their colleges up front, they don't have debt, meaning they don't have to go on. That sounds broke to you? Every one of my baby mothers has two or three houses. That sounds broke to you? It's not about me. If you Google her family or certain people I know I'll google them. They have no money. I googled the family office. $10 billion. Rich people don't put anything in their name. But you don't know that. You don't know that. And I feel sorry for you because you don't get to see the daylight. You guys, you don't. You missed the whole. You've missed your whole life. We don't have anything on our name. So then I. Let me finish.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let me.
Dame Dash
Yeah, go ahead.
Charlamagne Tha God
Congratulations on that.
Dame Dash
Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
What made you sign a book deal with Simon and Schuster as opposed to publishing independently?
Dame Dash
Because number one, some things I use as a lost leader. I gave them the book, but I didn't give them the answer. Everything. So they don't have the tv. They don't have. So I just use that as a lost leader to. To stimulate the other verticals.
DJ Envy
Can't sign a book there. He probably got an imprint because he. That he would have a boss if.
Dame Dash
He had an imprint.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I have an imprint. What's having issues?
Dame Dash
Well, my. My family office got the book deal. You understand now, smart guy? I'm asking. So again, letting people yell at you like that is not masculine. And a woman. Do you think he's masculine? Would you want this man around you? If 10 guys jumped you, you. He'd run and you'd have to run with him. I like my women to feel safe when they're around me. I don't tell people like. And I'm not saying that's your way, but you're just not masculine. I've seen him. I've seen him run. I've seen. I've seen. I. I looked at a whole reel of. This is like a thing that says how many people bark. There's stuff that. How many times you may play with. Talk about other people's genitals.
Charlamagne Tha God
You.
Dame Dash
Real masculine men don't do that. You. You said that some guys was kissing, throwing you kisses because they liked your paws. But. And you went back, that's gay.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why do you have such a problem with gay.
Dame Dash
I don't have a problem. I have a problem with you. Wait, wait. No, no, no, no. That is why I paused. There's a lot of people like you. There's a lot of people like you that are gay, that don't. That pretend they're not. And that's not fair because you're running around. Stop. You're here tell. You're representing a black man. And I don't want white people. You're representing black.
Charlamagne Tha God
Answer the question. Black men can't be gay.
Dame Dash
Black men that are gay should say they're gay.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, I'm not gay.
Dame Dash
You are. Yo, anyway, now let me talk to you. Let me ask you, bro, if I'm. What would you rather do? Have a repo or rico?
DJ Envy
Neither, but repo.
Dame Dash
But you're getting investigated for a rico.
DJ Envy
Am I?
Dame Dash
That's what I'm saying.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're listening to the Internet.
Dame Dash
That's why I'm talking to you about it. That's what I'm talking to you about. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. How should I know? I never heard of these.
Charlamagne Tha God
So when we asked the question.
Dame Dash
Yo, I'm talking to him now. You see what you're doing? Girls do that. Let me say this. You acting like a girl.
Charlamagne Tha God
You move like an old auntie. You an old Harlem.
Dame Dash
I could punch you right in your face like a grown man. I won't. And you won't do.
DJ Envy
That's not Patty.
Dame Dash
So just so you know, I've seen you run. Yeah, that's it. I've seen you. I'm not saying I will. I'm saying no. No. Your version of respectful is different than mine. We were on the street right now and you were talking like that, I would have you up, but I'm not gonna do that. Nah, I wouldn't have got beat up, but then I wouldn't have got beat. Let's. Let's end this. So let me say one more thing before I leave.
Host Producer
I have so many questions.
Dame Dash
All right. Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right.
Charlamagne Tha God
You can't get in your emotions and want to leave.
Dame Dash
No, what I'm saying is when you interrupt me and you say certain things, where I'm from, the masculine man. Will you up?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, but because.
Dame Dash
Let me finish. No, I didn't. I said. I didn't say. Well, I said I could and you wouldn't do anything and we gonna fight. I didn't see that on tape. You ran? Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cause it was four guys. But that's cool.
Dame Dash
What happened when 30 guys jumped me? Respect. I got that ass whipping, but I. Oh, I them up.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think it's been some head trauma ever since.
Dame Dash
Yeah. Hey, yo, pause. Come on. Yo, Daniel, come here a second. I want to say something.
Host Producer
Wait, you cut envy.
Dame Dash
Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
DJ Envy
It's no sense.
Dame Dash
But no, no, you have questions.
Host Producer
Yeah, I'm let him.
Dame Dash
He's not coming from a masculine perspective, so I can't give him the answer coming from a.
DJ Envy
The problem. This is the problem with Dave.
Dame Dash
There's no problem, bro. What are you talking about? Y' all want to see me struggle so bad. Let me ask a question. Let me ask one question. Let me ask one question.
DJ Envy
The problem dame I have with you is you're a businessman and the entrepreneur.
Dame Dash
I don't care what your problem.
DJ Envy
People have a question to you, you don't want to ask the question.
Dame Dash
And exactly what you do, I did answer.
DJ Envy
You are a chatty Patty.
Dame Dash
Okay, let's be your face.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, let's.
Dame Dash
Let's do this. Can I talk. Let me answer that. Let me answer that. Can I answer that? Can I answer that charge?
DJ Envy
No, you can't come speaking. Like we just said, we going to set boundaries. I respected you respect me.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what they wanted by you wanted to come in here.
DJ Envy
He said boundaries.
Dame Dash
He said some chatty Patty stuff. That's absolutely not so let's address it. Let's unpack it. Let's unpack it. Let's unpack it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let's unpause.
Dame Dash
Let's. Let's talk about it. Okay, so a lot of the things you say on here are not true. A lot. And I'm saying what I'm seeing in the algorithm is that you're being investigated with it for Rico and that there were people around you that are getting charged. So why. Let me ask you a question. I don't. I don't expect you. Bottom line is I already know you're going to fold if they come for you, you tell them we already know.
Charlamagne Tha God
That.
DJ Envy
You have to prove facts because.
Dame Dash
You can't prove facts. I can't? No. Everything I say, I'd be having on tape.
DJ Envy
It's not factual.
Dame Dash
What's not factual? That I said.
DJ Envy
Nothing that you said is factual.
Dame Dash
So I'm not the chairman of a vote. I don't know.
DJ Envy
I haven't seen a date line yet.
Charlamagne Tha God
Deadline.
Dame Dash
You know what happens when feminine people get nervous and upset? Their voice starts cranking, their lips start shaking.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what you be doing when you be on all the dialogue, or you.
Dame Dash
Stand up and walk away like you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Gonna walk out five times.
Dame Dash
Here's my team right here. You do the same thing right Right, Right. My teeth got fixed. Thank you. I mean, I think everybody. How many? No, these are dentures, but I got diamonds. What happened was, like I said, and I. I don't think. I think everyone goes through things with their teeth. They just don't show it. I like people. I like to show myself vulnerable. I want people to learn from it. All of my implants broke, so I had to get them pulled out. Pause, break. Good bone. And they had to put all new bone, so that's going to take six months to heal. So they put this on. But, you know, I think it's. It's a denture. It's. I hate it. You know, I mean, I barely. But, you know, I got to wear it. And then after that, they will put the implants in with the. With teeth. And then three months after that, I'll have the full teeth. What's the big deal? And that is expensive. And. And. And it hurts. I couldn't. I couldn't eat a night. So what's the big deal? Just because I don't mind showing my flaws. See, you guys hide your flaws. You hide your homosexuality. I don't hide. I'm transparent. No, I didn't. Wait a second. When you. I will show you. Google me, saying, I've been saying I'm broke for years. Name one.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why can't I say I'm broke?
Dame Dash
But you should say you're a homosexual. And then the world will know how homosexuals see things.
DJ Envy
Can we have a real conversation?
Dame Dash
That's your perspective. I don't care what you say. You're feminine. I don't care what a feminine man says about me. Go ahead.
DJ Envy
The whole time. Can we have a real conversation?
Dame Dash
Okay, go ahead. But then you can't tell me I'm lying. And I'm not. You can't tell me.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't think you're lying. I just think you're broke.
Dame Dash
All right, cool. But I just think you're gay.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's cool.
Dame Dash
I know you're gay.
DJ Envy
We gonna throw in so time.
Dame Dash
That's not. Why is it. Oh, see, that's gay.
Charlamagne Tha God
He said he know I'm gay.
Dame Dash
No, let me do this. Can we do this? Can we do this? Can we do this? Just let her talk without trying to throw up. Let me have.
Host Producer
It's a group effort. We all.
DJ Envy
We can't throw insults.
Dame Dash
We got. Oh, y' all didn't insult me.
DJ Envy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dame Dash
Y' all both got this face. Go ahead.
Host Producer
Most of the time when I call you, it's a scary Things. Right. Most of the time when I call you, I'm trying to clear things up. Right. So I have a couple things here that I haven't talked to you about. The, the thing with your daughter and the eviction.
Dame Dash
She never got evicted.
Host Producer
So why did the son report that? What, where does that stem from?
Dame Dash
So what happened was she was out of town or some. Oh no, no, no. So she was, she had, she was sending the money to someone to send the money and it wasn't going and she didn't know she was out of town. So I think they were going to. They. When she found out, she, she just paid it. So it got paid. So she never got evicted ever in life. Ever? Never. That's another one of those false things that they say like somebody might see something but it doesn't follow through. She never got evicted. What they should have said was she lived, she, she at that age lived in a three bedroom house in an apartment in Tribeca at, you know, like, like, like a rich kid, like, like a Nepo baby. Because her mother has 100 million dollar company, Rachel Roy, which I started, put my $8 million in and now she owns it. See, what I do is I'll get things going, then I leave. But sometimes they go apart like Rockefeller. As soon as I left, it's gone. Like Rockwear. As soon as I left, it's gone. Every single thing I started is gone the second I leave it. But no one says anything but what's your next question? Did I answer? Did I answer?
Charlamagne Tha God
I just want to say, did I.
Dame Dash
Wait, did I answer your question real quick though.
Charlamagne Tha God
But okay, you said that. But you sound smart to dumb people.
Dame Dash
You do.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because if the dumb, if the person goes on to launch another company that's more successful than Rockefeller and launches another.
Dame Dash
Line, I mean, like. So let me ask you a question. I've launched lines they've never. I launched Rachel Roy and that was 100 million dollar company. But you never said a word about that. So then I would. I don't make another hole. I make another $100 million company. Did I do that or not?
DJ Envy
Did you?
Dame Dash
Yeah. Okay, so then what are you talking about? I've sold three companies. How many you sold?
Charlamagne Tha God
But you made it seem like after you left that those people went bad.
Dame Dash
I didn't say that. I said those companies went bad. You're dumb. I said the companies I started because that's what you do. You twist things around and that's what's dangerous about you. And that's gay.
Charlamagne Tha God
You ever heard Ronald Reagan say, if you're explaining, you're losing. You ever heard that saying? If you're explaining losing, you explain a lot.
Dame Dash
You asked me a question, so you asked me a question. And then when I explained, so I won't. Wait a second. Did that make any sense or did that sound dumb? We're doing it, but you're always explaining.
Charlamagne Tha God
Something because I'm going into. You're always on camera explaining what's going.
Dame Dash
On, and you're always on camera talking about other people like a girl.
Charlamagne Tha God
So are you.
Dame Dash
No, I'm not. Okay, let's unpack that. What's the next question? What's the next question? No, no, no, no. Let me just say something. Let me address what he said. So if somebody says something about me and I go on a camera and I try to call them and they don't talk to me, and I say something about them, is that a chatty Patty?
DJ Envy
If you don't get a chance, I'm.
Dame Dash
Not talking to you. I'm not talking to you. No, you don't know. You guys are feminine. Y' all don't say.
DJ Envy
Who could talk and who can't.
Dame Dash
I'm asking her a question. Give her. Why can't I ask her a question? So what are you talking about? I'm asking. Okay, you're responding to what's being said about you, right? Is that Patty? Patty? No. So that's what I do every time someone. Now, I want you to pull up. One time I talked about someone and their business that wasn't talking about me. Even their business. I never, ever talk about any. But these people talk about Nate. Show it. Show an interview, they'll tell you. Please, I'm challenging you. Wait. I'm challenging you to. See, now. It's not true.
Host Producer
What about, though, when you did all this stuff when Jay Z was being sued and accused of rape, you did so many interviews about.
Dame Dash
Let me finish. The interviews were about his lawyer. I said, I know how their lawyers act because I personally went with Shapiro, and we went to war about Shapiro. And then people would ask me questions about other things that weren't complimentary. But I always said, I don't think Jay did it. My question was, why were they putting so much heat on him? If you look at my interviews, I never said he did it. I always said, I know Shapiro because they lied a lot. So I know. I don't trust nothing Shapiro says. Based on my personal experience, he. I'm a real businessman. I won in court against Shapiro. I won. But you would Never report that they tried to sue me and they lost. Remember that. They didn't get a dime. Nothing happened. But no one says that I beat Shapiro. I go to. I'm a titan, B. I go to war. On a business level, you guys talk. Your logic don't make sense. I think that there's a responsibility for any platform to make sure that things people are saying are true and make sure people are learning. So for you to say that you guys are constantly saying things that you don't know are true. You just said that. I don't think that's responsible.
Charlamagne Tha God
You confidently said, I'm gay.
Dame Dash
I think you're gay. I said it in your face. I don't care if you say I'm.
Charlamagne Tha God
Broke and I say you're broke in.
Dame Dash
Your face, and I think you're broke. I don't care. That doesn't hurt my feelings, what another girl thinks. You know, I always say, listen, listen.
Charlamagne Tha God
Another girl.
Dame Dash
Another. A man shouldn't. I never heard of men to talk.
Charlamagne Tha God
Another girl is a viewer.
Dame Dash
I never. I never saw another man worried about.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't care what another girl thinks. You said it like you a girl, too, Lauren.
Dame Dash
Next question. No, no, no. I was saying something. I don't think it's masculine to be talking about another man's pockets. So y' all talk. These are. You're broke. Real dudes don't say. We don't say that in the street.
Charlamagne Tha God
Literally said in the early beginning of the interview, I bet you my house is bigger than yours.
Dame Dash
Yeah, because I was saying that doesn't matter how much money.
Charlamagne Tha God
You doing the same thing.
Dame Dash
You telling us we should. No, let me tell you. No, not next question. Let me answer it. But you guys keep interrupting me. Let me answer it.
DJ Envy
That is Chatty Patty.
Dame Dash
That is not. How are they going to tell, you know how dumb you are? You're telling the person that made it up what it means. That's dumb. How dumb is my house is bigger than yours? No, I'm telling you what I'm trying to tell you what my point was.
Charlamagne Tha God
My teeth are real than yours, right?
Dame Dash
No, I bet they're not. I bet my teeth cost more than. Okay, so what I'm saying is it's not about how much money you have. It's about how you're living. So this is what I was going to make the point. Let's say when you guys started 15, 20 years ago, right, you made $10 million, but your lifestyle is still. You still got to go to work every. Do you have the same exact work lifestyle as when you were broke. Now, for me to have to get up at 4 in the morning and never have to never be able to leave because I got to be there for 30 years would be hell for me. That would be me being broke. I get up when I want. I get like. Like I said, how could being. If all my children and all my. All my family is taken care of, how am I broke? And if you think that way, you're a dumbass. I'm sorry. So let me just tell you something, please. Because now I'm doing.
Charlamagne Tha God
What do you love to do then?
Dame Dash
I don't. Why you don't talk. I feel like you like trying to game me up. Get out of here.
Charlamagne Tha God
What do you love to do?
Dame Dash
No, no, I want to give someone. This is what I love to do. I'm tell you, I love to teach people. So this is what I wanted to do.
Charlamagne Tha God
I love waking up every morning to do radio.
Dame Dash
I didn't ask. I don't care. So what I'm saying is. What I'm saying is I want you to understand the lessons that I've learned from my og.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay?
Dame Dash
All right. And Nicolette, when you get a chance, can you show them the trailer to. Paid in Full. Already made that. They just breezed over like. It's not a big deal, but when 50s announces something. But anyway, the reason why I'm gonna tell you. Listen, I got you. I got you. I got. Yeah, right. I know. But for me to do the trail, I'd have to shoot it. It's done. It's all. Come here. Give me this.
Charlamagne Tha God
You did it after he made it?
Dame Dash
No, I. I did a whole. I've been. If you guys look at my Instagram, I've been editing for six months. Stupid.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't believe you.
Dame Dash
Cuz you're dumb. You. How would you know? You're in this coffin every day. Count Dumbula.
Charlamagne Tha God
I want to wear your suit in my coffee.
Dame Dash
Jesus Christ. I think therapy.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I think you whatever.
Dame Dash
I have a TV show. I have a TV show. So we have. I have a television network with its own technology, and I'm. I don't understand how I have things. And y' all say I'm. That's okay.
DJ Envy
There's no other platform that supports you like this platform. It allows you to come in.
Dame Dash
Say y' all the only ones that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Look at your picture. You like your picture.
Dame Dash
Oh, I didn't know you like that.
Charlamagne Tha God
See what I'm saying?
Dame Dash
Why y'? All? Why Ain't got No teeth. I'm just playing. I'm playing the trailer. It's already. And I'll show you the first. Okay. Know what I'm gonna do after this? Now, listen. How much you want to bet? It's edited. How much you want to bet? What? That. What? I. I didn't just make it up yesterday that I shot it and edit. I'll show you an episode. You want to see one?
Host Producer
Well, I hit you up about.
Dame Dash
You do. I'll show it to you.
Host Producer
I want to see it. But I asked you when 50 announced. We announced.
Dame Dash
Do you understand? Do you understand? I was playing coy. This was. Y' all caught the trap. So this was my plan. I'm gonna tell you the plan. I'm listening now.
Charlamagne Tha God
I can tell people your plans.
Dame Dash
Then it's done already. Stupid. Listen, so in. In the Godfather, I said. I said, remember that? He played broke, and then he killed the five families. So if you notice, I got up there with a patch like Ace. I wanted to look weak. I wore extra big shirt, so I look fat. You understand what I'm. I wanted y' all to bomb on me because I knew all these announcements were coming to anybody else makes an announcement, they're great. But if Dame Dash. Oh, it's a little thing. Oh, you're not the chairman like I am. I'm about to buy this shit. You understand? I'm saying, I. I don't play. I've been trying to buy Revolt for two years. I tried to buy bet. I just play a different game. See, the game I play, you don't make money. Every day you get licks. It takes 10 years to make a company and sell it. You have to have EBA die. You sold by a multiple. You understand what I'm saying? So again, what I explained to you was the reason why I owe so much money. It's not because I was broke. It's because I had an accountant named Barry Claudberg that I was paying to do my taxes, and he didn't pay it. And he told me after. And then after your money's gone, you can't sue him. And it happens a lot. A white man did that. You understand? So it's not like I said, how you gonna say I'm broke? Because I owe $20 million, and you've never seen a in your life pay $20 million? Why do y' all accept such high expectation of me? I'm not broke. I'm. You're like, so I got five men in the bank. I'm broke. No so anyway, my point is you have to see the lineup. Y' all all caught debate. So in look at. I want you to go home and look at the Godfather too and tell me if I didn't just line y' all all up the same way. Think about it. You just took debate and you feel stupid. That's all that's happening. You went for it. You're a huckleberry.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think you're lying. I think you're bro. And I think you always trying to explain only.
Dame Dash
Yeah, yeah. Only girls. Only girls worry about pockets. Anyway, you're a woman. Why do I care what. You're a girl with a mustache. Get out of here. You're a bald headed girl.
Charlamagne Tha God
You care too much about what other people think. There's nothing about you.
Dame Dash
Let me ask you a question. Let me ask. Okay, let's say this.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is if I cared about what people think.
Dame Dash
You think I pull my teeth out in front of everybody? The pictures y' all see with me? No teeth. I took those pictures. Right or wrong. That. That's not confidence to you.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're a girl. I don't think you.
Dame Dash
Now, you silly man. You're teaching the kids wrong man. That's dope. Now your logic is dumb and it comes from a place you have. Wait, let me. If you've been. If you've been in the room first.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. I think you took your teeth off.
Dame Dash
Because that was my girl.
Charlamagne Tha God
You like to run your mouth so much. He's like, I gotta say something. Yeah, but you're now even with no.
Dame Dash
Teeth, you think I would care? You think I would care with a girl like you thinks? Yeah, because you're a girl. Hold on. I'm gonna show you now. So you think you can be quiet so you can see how stupid he is? I always have. Huh?
Host Producer
Why you pull that up? Can I ask you something else?
Dame Dash
Oh, yeah.
Host Producer
So I know you talk about the family office, right? There's 600. The 650. 650k in child supported domestic. That's listed in the bankruptcy. That's child support, right?
Dame Dash
Yeah.
Host Producer
How did you get there with having that amount unpaid? I know you care about family. Like what's the background on that? Because they make it seem like I.
Dame Dash
Pay a lot of child support. That's like two months that I owed. I'm saying that's another way I'm broke, right? But I've been paying $250,000 a year in child support for the last 25 years. 250 a year. So what happens Is. I'll explain that too. Because again, I'm going to sue some people, you know, like, trust me. But I don't see how yuck is if I tell you all my kids went to college for free. They all live in houses and I pay a 250 a year in child support. So my kids salary is probably as much as yours. You understand what I'm saying? And I'm broke. Yeah, I'm broke because I give it all to my family. That dude, don't you understand that I don't want any money. You're selfish if you think that having money in your family not is being rich. Rich people have family offices. You don't put things in your name. You have a family office. You're going to go and ask a lawyer if I'm wrong. And one day you'll come the same way. The last time I came and barked on y'. All. Y' all changed your whole life.
Charlamagne Tha God
He did.
Dame Dash
I changed your whole life. You put me on the whole look that changed you. Like, how do you know y don't come outside. There's no windows in here. This is cra.
Charlamagne Tha God
Look at the dog.
Dame Dash
Yeah, y' all in the. Behind the stage, a curtain. Y' all in the coffin. I would never. This is uninspiring. Dirty and all that. You're a girl. You clean this up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Look at your sneakers. Your sneakers are dirty.
Dame Dash
My sneakers are nice.
Charlamagne Tha God
Your sneakers filthy. I just. That ain't like you, D. I just.
Dame Dash
See how you lying. They wrinkle. I just put this on today.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm just with you.
Dame Dash
You know, you care too much about.
Charlamagne Tha God
Money and material things, man.
Dame Dash
Talking about you do. You're contradicting yourself.
Charlamagne Tha God
Your whole existence is money and material things. That's why now that you don't. Your whole existence is prove to everybody that you do.
Dame Dash
Your whole expenses. Your whole existence is gay. Yours is. It sounds like you've been paid to do what you're doing. You should be objective on the radio.
Charlamagne Tha God
Paid to do something. Then you wouldn't be in debt anyway. De. That's his new name. You should start a new label called Debt Jam.
Dame Dash
Not a fake laugh. Nobody's checking for that. Only. Only guys. Look, nobody's. Nobody's laughing. Now you got the face. He's trying to make himself laugh. Look, now you look stupid. Look at him.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're gonna cry.
Dame Dash
Look at him.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think he's gonna cry the fake laugh, man.
Dame Dash
You're not gonna stop. You're gonna keep laughing at nothing. Yo, why you squinting? You look stupid. You squinting Tarantino right now? Anyway. Yeah, yeah. I'm just laughing because you have this shit face. You say nothing hurt.
Host Producer
Go ahead.
Dame Dash
Yes, I'm sorry. Why does Claudia Jordan owe you like she doesn't owe me? What she did was. I'll say allegedly, so I get sued. I shot the movie. I have a bunch of footage of her in the movie. Her saying. Her saying I'm the best director. She came to my house a hundred times to edit all this stuff.
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Dame Dash
We did the lawsuit, she testified that I didn't direct it, but what happened was Chris Brown also represented this other girl named E.W. brooks in another case, then that one they won. And then right after that, Claudia was in her movie. So it's like she, you know, it doesn't got you. So. And she'll say she was saying that, you know, because the thing was because you know, Claudia Jordan, right, she talks sexual. I don't want to. And the movie was about a wife that was everybody and I didn't want to have to direct and talk to her a certain way. And the first scene I was born in, right, I can show you the scene is graphic, right. But it's a, it's a graph, you know, it's meant to be that way. So usually as a director you might spend some time with it. I didn't want to. So I gave her a porno and said, you know, go look in the car, blah, blah, and you know, when you're ready, let me know. So she was saying that she found that to be sexual harassment or something like that. She just felt like it was inappropriate. And I was like, you know, I didn't want to talk sex with you. That's why I gave it to you. I said, go over there. So to me, allegedly she perjured herself for benefit. So and she's gonna try to, you know, and she put posted something up. But then I know they told her to put it down. But, you know, there's things that I have to look at of people that have been treating me unfairly because. And stupid people have been saying things that aren't true. And it goes into an algorithm and people start to believe it. So if you say something and it's not true, but you don't say nothing, now it'll go in an algorithm and then it. Like, if you accusing me of hiding money and I don't protect myself, then. Now I got the feds calling. So I have to correct my. When people say these false narratives, I have to say something because, you know, you're not in big business. You've been working. You've been, you know, you've been working for somebody your whole life. I never worked for nobody.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let me ask you this, but that's so interesting because you're up here spreading the false narrative.
Dame Dash
What's the false narrative?
Charlamagne Tha God
You said.
Dame Dash
I said I. Are you. I said, are you fake? No. Okay, so I asked you how my child paid if I didn't say nothing until I got in front of you to ask you.
DJ Envy
No, you said I wasn't.
Dame Dash
Maybe it was a mischoice of word. I meant. I meant to say. I heard. I. I should know because I'm not the feds, you guys probably know because y' all probably talk to them. I think we ask questions. I. I just think y' all hot, you know, I just think y' all work with the police. I think. I don't. I don't. I don't see why they would make like for me, evolution is key. Every day I got to do something different. So y' all do the same thing every day.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't think you evolving then sounding the same.
Dame Dash
Right, so. So you're never going to talk about the fact I go into schools with the osg? You had the mayor up here, Eddie Milton. Did y' all talk about the fact that when he was the senator, he flew to my ranch, we made a plan, and we helped get him elected. Did he talk about how we passed laws? That's not evolving. You know, I don't have no money. Charlamagne, because I've been going into schools, teaching kids how to dream and how to have cognitive skills. This book brings the kids cognitive skills up, but y' all don't talk about that. You know, did you. I know. You know, on my Instagram, y' all know I ran up in the jail, a kid's jail, with Principal McGrawn, with Black Panthers, senators. I got locked into jail. But I changed things. Wow. I'll show you the. They saw it, but no one writes about it. So to say I haven't evolved and you have, but you've been sitting in the same room for 30 years. But I'm running around houses all over the world, starting companies, selling them. That's ridiculous. It's just you talking confident about stupid shit for your job.
Charlamagne Tha God
You are.
Dame Dash
I just said, like, wait, it's stupid to say that I went to a school.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're talking very confident about me.
Dame Dash
No more, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're talking very stupid.
Dame Dash
I just hate what you're doing to the world. You're stupiding up the world. You're a cancer for black people because you're teaching them the wrong values.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't feel like you're a cancer for black.
Dame Dash
I don't care what you feel.
Charlamagne Tha God
Smart to dump people.
Dame Dash
Yeah, I know. Now I'm so. And you're. You're saying my things back to me, and I'm done.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because everything you say is like you looking in the mirror. All you do is project. Has your therapist ever thought taught you that?
Dame Dash
I have a therapy show on my network, America New, called Healing is Gangster. Check it out. I want to tell you what I've learned from my og. Okay? Can you come up here, please? My og. Please, my og. And I want y' all to know, I'm sure you're on Instagram. His wife just died, brother. All right. Damn, man. And I want to say this right, please sit down. Because I learned so much from you every day. Because this is my og And I think you should ask him and talk to him. This man, when his wife was sick, he did not leave her hospital for four weeks. I would call him every day. Correct. He never left her till she passed. He. I'm not. And that was what I call manning up. You know what I'm saying? Then when she passed, he had the illest wedding then. I'm talking about fireworks, doves. The whole Harlem was out there strong. He looked like the mob boss. I wanted to be him right there. Even when he was in pain, he's still now. I'm Dame Dash. I do give people props that deserve it. This my og, I give him the respect he deserves because he still teaches me. And then we know what he did. He threw heaven up in Harlem. Thousands of people came through. The mayor came through.
Charlamagne Tha God
I saw that.
Dame Dash
But you didn't say nothing about it. That's the problem, girl.
Charlamagne Tha God
You just did all that, giving this man all.
Dame Dash
Asking some questions like that. Don't tell me what to do. Go ahead. How is your mental health? How are you doing?
Charlamagne Tha God
Shut the up from back there.
Dame Dash
How you doing in the interview?
Charlamagne Tha God
No more.
Dame Dash
That's crazy.
Charlamagne Tha God
What you mean?
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Same fight, different round, bro.
Charlamagne Tha God
I want that.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
It's one day at a time for.
DJ Envy
People, for people that don't know.
Dame Dash
How do you inspire.
Charlamagne Tha God
Disrespectful for people.
DJ Envy
That don't know, especially with Dame. How do you teach the people that come up under you the right morals to make sure they make it and not end up in jail?
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Just, you know, right is right, wrong is wrong. Everybody got that in them. You know what's right, you know what's wrong. Just follow your heart, do what's right. You go murder somebody or you hurt somebody, you harm somebody. Today when you go home at night, you might say, yeah, I put that work in. Then you probably think too, like, damn, I really hurt that boy. You know what I mean? I cause him pain. The rule of life to me is treat people how you want to be treated. You don't want to have holes put in you. You don't want to be injured leaking on the ground. Why would you do that to somebody else?
DJ Envy
OG question, you know? You from Harlem, I'm from Queens. A lot of times people don't see eye to eye, right? Same color skin came from the same area. And it almost seems like a crab in a barrel syndrome. How do you tell these young people to stop that? Even with Dave and some of the people that he beefs with or goes back and forth with, how do you have those conversations? Say, we better ask. Collabs versus competition.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
It's hard, bro. It's hard right now. You know, like, for example, like he said at the cookout, you know, I do the cookout every year, of course. So I said, you know, my life when my wife was alive, we talked about, like, yo, we got a big crowd. A lot of people come. Let's do something positive with it, right? So we talked one night. We said, you know what? Let's just try to bring all our sons together. Let's introduce our sons to each other.
Dame Dash
That's powerful.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
So they don't be out here beefing and fighting because they don't know each other.
Dame Dash
Yeah.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Not knowing the relationship that their fathers be having, that's supposed to bring them some unity right amongst each other. So, you know, I just say that to say, like, this year, you know, I do it for the last five years, I've been doing that part. And this year, you know, I got really Emotional, because like you said, you know, I'm telling brothers, let's come together. Let's stand together for a minute. Like all this bubblegum y' all up here doing right now, going back and forth. That's cool. It's entertainment. They come a time when we all really need to come together and stand tall. You know, as black men, as a black unit, we haven't done this, bro. So at the cookout that. It gets me excited because I'm like, okay, let's come together.
DJ Envy
But their differences to the side, right?
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Like, half of the group will come together, and the other half of the group is still walking around doing. You know, that don't really make.
Dame Dash
Let me just say one thing. Yeah. This is what he does. I call him tough love. So when he's there, he's talking like he's saying some bad, but he'll like, if you. You ain't gonna give each other a hug, then get the.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hug him right now.
Dame Dash
Y' all better hug right now.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
He'd be exaggerating.
Dame Dash
I'll show it to you.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
He'd be exaggerating. But I do get a little, you know, tight because, you know, it hurts me to see that we can't come together for.
Dame Dash
Right. Yeah.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
And I'm talking about you bringing your son. I'm bringing my son. We talking about our sons. We can't do this for our sons, bro. Like, we can't take a minute to just honor up and just be a man. And let's show unity to our sons for an example in their lifetime. We don't really do this type of. Since the Million Man March, so. I'm from Harlem, like you from Queens. We come from that. We know how ugly it is. Like you said, shit is ugly, bro. As a man, like, I'm a grown man now. I was young. I did all that shit. But as a grown man right now, I got a purpose. It's something in life that I need to do. If not for nobody else, it's for my sons, my kids, you know, just to show them some type of unity that we could do this. Let's bring this together.
Dame Dash
Yeah.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Like, we ain't gotta wait for nobody else to come along. We here now. What we gonna wait for? The next Malcolm X? Next mountain? Nah, we here now. You know what I'm saying?
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, condolences on your strength, brother.
Dame Dash
No, no.
Charlamagne Tha God
What he did. What he did there right now.
Dame Dash
I asked him. I was like, damn. You know, when Aaliyah died, I didn't. I. I could have done it better. He taught me how to deal with that situation. Do you mind if I tell him a little about the Larry situation? So, you know, Chatty Patty ain't gonna.
Charlamagne Tha God
He gonna do it anyway.
Dame Dash
So you see, when I said, do you mind if he would have said, no, I would. Utmost respect. But you don't have a Wendy Williams would have told you to do it.
Charlamagne Tha God
You are Wendy, right?
Dame Dash
So can I just say something? So, you know, Larry is the guy that actually called my son for Cam. And, you know, I had mentioned him and I was like. Because I knew Larry before and, you know, he did some things actually, you know, it's a longer story, but he did something I didn't like, so I wasn't messing with him no more. I actually found him not to be intelligent. So. And it's. He. He was the reason why I got a couple of these lawsuits. So Daniel's like, I like him. I'm with him. All right. If you're not fucking with him, I'm not. That's. Cam didn't do that. He's his best friend. But Larry called them. And Larry's wife is going through a similar situation. So I guess he was trying to trauma bond with him. And my OG goes, where you at right now? And he goes, I'm in my bed sleep. Your wife is. I'mma let him take it from there.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
I mean, no, he say he was in his best sleep. But I asked him where he at because I could relate to his wife being in the hospital. He told me some things and just triggered some. In my situation, watching my wife go through all these different situations. And I just said to him, how could you be anywhere but by her side right now if she dying, bro, she had her last days. Like, for me, when the doctors told me I might have weeks to days or months to weeks. I needed all that.
Dame Dash
Absolutely.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
I needed every second, every minute left. You know what I mean? To be with my wife, bro. Like, nothing else is more important than time. If we had a billion dollars, you give up that billion dollars for some more time.
DJ Envy
Absolutely.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
So I needed to be with her and I needed to let her know I'm right by your side. When you dying. If you ever come to that point, you. You dying, it's one thing you probably need more than anything. Just somebody right there next to you. Especially. Hold on, game. Especially if it's your wife. If it's your girl, you want somebody to be next to you.
Dame Dash
That's right.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Even as a man, I don't think I would want nothing Else, probably my wife or some, you know, just right next to me, knowing that you next to me would help some comfort.
Dame Dash
He told Larry, if you don't get back there, over there, I'm you up. He said, next time I see you, I'm you up. That's what he said.
Charlamagne Tha God
You just cut him off?
Dame Dash
No, that's cool, you know, because I wanted to. I wanted to understand that that's where the toughness comes in somebody. He said, yo, I don't want to hear him. He don't want to hear nothing about the can. He said, your wife is that you? Don't. Don't cook me about that. I will beat you up if you don't go. If you're. If you're not by your wife's side every day. I'm sorry.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
No, I'm just saying, I. I came at him like that as a friend.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
You know what I mean? Even though he going through what he going through with him. And I told Dame, too. Your Dame, his wife going through some right now, it's time for us to on up all that. That ain't important. This life and death situation is more important. See, what the dude got to understand is love is powerful, man. You know what I mean? You got a wife, right?
Dame Dash
Yeah.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
You know how much she mean to you?
DJ Envy
31 years.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
I had 37. So when you got a wife, like I tell dudes, when you go to jail, you in trouble, you in the hospital, who's there with you?
Dame Dash
Your wife?
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Who you call your wife? Like, I ain't got nobody to call right now. I had to think about this the other day. Something was to happen, like before. It was like I called wifey. She knew just what to do immediately.
DJ Envy
Absolutely.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
I don't have nobody. I gotta get. I gotta get a new number. Memorize a number automatically. So at the end of the day, you know, his man was going through it with his wife. And I just told him, bro, out of respect, if I find out you not by her side, I'm you up. Like, that's some sucker. You a ass if you don't be by her side. I got mad, I get upset. I'm emotional, you know, I mean, my emotions come out sometimes. And it is what it is. I am who I am. And that's how. I just roll on that purpose alone. But, you know, I told him and he was like, you know what, og? You're right. Because you can't sit around talking about, yo, I had to come home for a minute. Are you sitting in your bed? Eating TV dinners and like that. Your wife is in the hospital dying. You know what that must feel like. You know, you ain't gonna make it like that. So, yeah, that's what happened with Homie. And I. I hope I got through to him. And he spending time with her. He probably should be right next to her right now, you know what I'm saying?
Charlamagne Tha God
Do you have like an organization or something or.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
The Heaven up in Harlem non profit thing? I just started, but, you know, I.
Dame Dash
Just wanted, for 20 years, 5,000 people short. So what I'm saying is for a man to tell another man what to do, he got to be able to beat you up. Because I'm telling you, you need a masculine man to teach black children. Yeah, and we need you on the radio, OG And I think y' all should get him up here once or twice a week because he would teach toughly. We need to be taught in a certain voice. That's not a voice.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nobody want to hear that. You talking. After hearing OG talk that fake, dumb.
Dame Dash
What did I just said? I just said.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
You know, at the end of the day, I appreciate y' all having me up here.
Dame Dash
Thank you.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
You know, I mean, voicing that. You know what I mean? Rest in peace to my wife, you know, it's been like five months now, and I still can't breathe. You know what I mean? But I'm here. You see me. You would never be able to tell because it's what's inside, you know what I'm saying? And I just want to shout out, my man Larry. Wish him all the best. And I hope he by his wife's side and anybody that's going through that type of. Just honor up and be a man and respect love. Because love is what we all need. That's the only thing that's going to be by us when we up, when we down and out. Yeah, y' all should all know if you got a girl, you got. You know what I mean, a situation, relationship, you know, that's what it's about. That's who you care about. My mother passed. She became my mother. You know, at the funeral, I told a story how I had a fight, right? And I broke my hands. I go to the hospital, broke my knuckles, and they cast me up. So long story short, I go home.
Dame Dash
That do, right?
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
No, I was. It didn't matter, you know, I just put in the work and I broke my fingers, my hands, right? But busted. So this how deep it was with me and my wife. I goes home and I realized I had to take a. I couldn't wipe my ass. Do you know my wife wiped my ass, bro? My wife had to wipe me, bro.
Dame Dash
Yeah.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
So you know how deep that is? Who else could you trust? You don't want your brother, you can't ask your homies or nobody do no like that.
Dame Dash
Yeah.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
And I wore the cast for, like, four, five months. Every time I had to go to bathroom. Like, that was crazy. But that's how to love. That's how deep that is. You have somebody like that in your life, that is priceless. It's like, you know, it means everything, you know? So, yeah, respect the power of your wife, your girl, man. Understand where you come from. You come from a woman. We should respect our woman a little more. You know what I mean?
Dame Dash
Thank you.
DJ Envy
Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you for that conversation.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
I appreciate y' all having me. And listen, we don't want to hear from you, bro.
Charlamagne Tha God
That D let OG In, OG with some positive real. Not that.
DJ Envy
If you ever have anything that you're doing with. With your foundation and you need us there, you need to come up here. You always invited, you know, I mean, for real. But anytime that you need to come up here. We never say no to Dame, and I'm sure many outlets have me. We all go back and forth with Dame, but we really. I don't know about Charlie, but we really respect Dame. We respect the work that he put in, and we appreciate you. We gonna go back and forth. We ain't got to agree.
Charlamagne Tha God
If I didn't respect him, I wouldn't have him up here.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Yeah, I already know.
Dame Dash
I respect.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
He told me stories about how you and him linked up off the set.
Dame Dash
I saw him someplace else, you know?
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Yeah. But he told me y' all had good conversations and like that. Y' all brothers, y', all. Bill, you know what I mean? Like, we don't want anybody to think this is all playing fun, you know? Radio is radio, but real life is real life.
Dame Dash
Yeah.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
And I salute y'.
Charlamagne Tha God
All.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Y' all doing a good job. Keep teaching the people, you know what I mean? Like Dame said, you know, y' all play a big part. Y' all listen. A lot of people listen to y'. All, you know what I'm saying?
Dame Dash
Thank you so much.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Keep giving them that knowledge.
Dame Dash
Absolutely.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Cause y' all be dropping. Y' all be dropping knowledge, you know what I mean? I'll be listening, too. All right, it's time to get up.
Dame Dash
Damn you. Any last words?
Charlamagne Tha God
No. OG Ended it, man.
Dame Dash
I wanted to Say thank you. I appreciate it. It was therapeutic. I mean, again, a lot of people won't have that conversation with me. Yeah. You know, very few. I've. I've actually through this situation with Cam. I've learned to have a lot of respect for Memphis Bleak because of his loyalty. And every time I see him, he talks to me. And when we were beefing and all that or going back and forth, he, you know, nor recalled. Oh, no. Big Face. Barry called Nori, but Nori called Bleak for backup. But they. They be talked like brothers. And you can't say nothing bad about Bleak's big homie. He might not be the brightest light in the room, but you ain't gonna say nothing about his og And. And actually, that was a girl who.
Charlamagne Tha God
Shot the Bleak, by the way.
Dame Dash
I just said that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why would you say he's not the brightest.
Dame Dash
But you just interrupted me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why don't you do that to people? OG Just told us we should be.
Dame Dash
Yo, thank you, man. I'm gonna show y' all this thing now.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let me so this last.
Dame Dash
I'm say this guy. If you want to see what you preach, if you want to see the.
Charlamagne Tha God
Trailer, you're going to dress like a shady pastor, then act like one. Practice what you preach.
Dame Dash
This is a bespoke suit that I made. Dd I like it and I made it. This is. You know, it looks like you made it. I know, I know. And you look like you that. That your boyfriend look like. Your boyfriend made that. Your boyfriend made that. That's what happened. Your crush made it. Anyway, yo, look, look.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what they say.
Dame Dash
Tomorrow I'm dropping a diss record for 50. Can I finish a diss record for 50? And cam by Nicolette. My. You know, y' all can hear. I'm playing for you before we leave. So you could go. You could go to America new and listen to it. You'll see the trailer for Paid in Full. My Paid in Full. It's called my Paid in Full. I don't have to buy rights for anything because I was there. I really hustled with this guy, you know. You know, Cam. I heard him say something like, he's the great.
Charlamagne Tha God
Didn't you say this record was corny? You said that. You said beef is corny, but you got Nicolette doing diss records.
Dame Dash
Dame, I always said rap battle is great. What are you talking about?
Charlamagne Tha God
Practice what you preach for just once.
Dame Dash
Yo, you're dumb.
DJ Envy
Can we play the record?
Dame Dash
Yes, please. Yeah, play it. Play the record.
DJ Envy
You said it's A disreco?
Dame Dash
Yes, it disregard. It's not mixed though, so. But you're gonna see that. But it's just a verse. And then I'm going to show you an episode. You want to see it? Yeah. Okay. Because he said I was lying. Before we leave, I want you to see that episode because you said I was lying. And you're gonna have to apologize to me after I show you this. Okay. No, you're a liar, then. You're a girl.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're a broke.
Dame Dash
Hold on a second. Anyway, I'm show you how to first and I can show you and I might if you want. If you really don't believe me, I'll show you five episodes. But piece of each. But I have five edit. You know what I'm saying? So I can show you right now. You'll see.
Charlamagne Tha God
So, ladies and gentlemen, big shout out.
Dame Dash
Look for my pain in full. The real story from people that actually did it in Harlem. And it will be on revolt. And if things go the way I want, I should be closing or I should be able to have this pathway to acquire. But until then, you'll see all my content. Next week you'll see bosses take losses on revolt. So now I'm hustling on his block. Cam. I'm now Cam's boss.
DJ Envy
You gonna keep Cam show?
Dame Dash
Yeah, I'm not gonna fire him. He's a good kid. But I'm not gonna.
Host Producer
It was cute emotional thing. I thought him taking over was a promotional thing.
Dame Dash
That's him. He was a CEO.
Host Producer
But you're doing a real acquisition, you say?
Dame Dash
Yes, it's not a real acquisition as there's a road to acquisition. Okay. So I'm gonna see what the. I'm putting all my content on there. A lot of it. And we're going to see how it runs and see what it does. I want everybody to watch it once a But so. But every week you'll be able to see bosses take losses. Start next week on revolt. And then. But if, like, I don't get to buy it, then, you know, I won't put paid in full on you know. But it's done already. I'm just. I got to put it. So I start with this I'm starting is coming in trenches is a docu series first. So you know the characters. Then it's descriptive. Same thing with power the book. The docu series TV show. So watch my new show, power that I actually do own. Not capping. I didn't write it yet. I mean, Michelle is writing it now. And she's also writing the script. The deals are done and you know, and there'll be more. So shout out to dust. Go. So it takes. Thank you, Dusk. Thank you. Love that. Dusko goes to space, brings your cognitive skills up. Dusko goes to see I never again. You know, the black gun. This is being distributed by Sony, but I didn't make that announcement. But it is distributed by Sony because, you know, some of my, like, my part, you know, I couldn't have this guy keep sending letters, so I filed so he would stop murking waters. But I want to show you. Can you pull up? I'll do it. I'll do it. And. Oh, yeah, and also, also, we're considered there. We've been. We're being considered for a Grammy. So any Grammy voters, please vote. We're being considered for alternative. What is it? Alternative music. Best alternative album. See, I don't like the freeway. Right. I don't think I love freeways. You know, he's another one that's going into schools and doing all these things and, you know, if any Grammy voters for turn his music, please vote for the black guns. I just wanted to do it as an artist, but, you know, I wanted to be artists. Let me be an artist now.
DJ Envy
Power. This power, your power has nothing to do with 50s power. It's a whole.
Dame Dash
It's not 50s power. He don't own that. He's. He works for those people. He doesn't own that. Go do your. I want you to do me a favor. If you like, I'll teach you. I will. If you want to know about certain things, call me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Call there nothing.
Dame Dash
I'm not. I don't. Cuz you might take it the wrong way.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm like, I do not want to learn the D way of doing.
Dame Dash
Like, I'm smitten like a kitten.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't want to learn nothing from de.
Dame Dash
Okay. Yeah. Oh, my God. Good. It's all right.
DJ Envy
Ladies and gentlemen, here's the record. Introduce your order.
Dame Dash
Let's introduce. Come on, Nikki. Can we do IG's here?
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
No.
Dame Dash
All right.
DJ Envy
Tomorrow.
Dame Dash
Yeah, yeah. But you see how I respect it. Yeah.
DJ Envy
Come on, Nicholas, introduce the record before we get about.
Dame Dash
Hey, you guys, I'm Nikki Licky and this is Checkmate. A Diss track to 50 Cent and Cameron.
DJ Envy
It's the Breakfast Club. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Dame Dash.
OG (Dame Dash's mentor or elder figure)
Hold up.
Dame Dash
Every day I wake up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. Finish or y' all done.
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Episode Date: September 16, 2025
Podcast Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Special Guest: Dame Dash (entrepreneur, music and film mogul)
Notable Contributor: Dame’s OG (mentor/elder figure)
This charged, often combative episode of The Breakfast Club is centered on Dame Dash’s self-worth, business legacy, financial rumors, conflicts with industry peers, the meaning of wealth in the Black community, masculinity, and the importance of integrity and unity. Dame confronts rumors about his finances, addresses interpersonal industry “beefs,” and defends his business practices and principles. Tensions run high as Dame repeatedly challenges the hosts, especially Charlamagne, over respect, boundaries, and what’s said about him in absentia.
Dame Dash: "I have no assets but my family. That's all I care about... You have no assets. I have no assets but my family. That's all I care about" (12:43).
Dame Dash: “In business, as long as I'm paying... They would try to give me money, but tell me what to do. I'm going to tell you something: in business, as long as I'm paying, nobody is my boss” (18:45–18:58).
The episode is fiery, combative, and unfiltered, especially between Dame Dash and Charlamagne Tha God, with recurring interruptions and arguments over respect, truth, and masculinity. The banter fluctuates between playful, cutting, and venomous, but gives way to an earnest, emotionally charged segment when Dame’s OG steps in, grounding the episode with wisdom and reminders of community, legacy, and love.
Dame Dash uses this appearance to energetically refute rumors about his finances and legacy, drop industry news, challenge the media’s ethics and accountability, and assert his perspective on what it means to be successful and respected as a Black man and entrepreneur. Despite the hostility and frequent personal digs, especially around masculinity and sexuality, the episode closes on a unifying note, with Dame, his OG, and the hosts acknowledging the importance of family, community, and real-life integrity.