INTERVIEW: Danny Garcia On His Final Boxing Match, Boxing Career, Being From Philly Crawford Vs. Canelo +More

Summary

The Breakfast Club – Interview with Danny Garcia

Episode: Danny Garcia On His Final Boxing Match, Boxing Career, Being From Philly, Crawford Vs. Canelo + More
Date: October 17, 2025
Host: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guest: Danny Garcia

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Episode Overview

Boxing champion Danny Garcia joins The Breakfast Club for an in-depth conversation ahead of his final professional fight. The discussion dives into his storied career, his decision to retire, fatherhood, business smarts, mental health, and thoughts on modern boxing culture—including influencer fights and super-fights like Crawford vs. Canelo. Garcia, a proud Philadelphian, shares personal stories and advice, reflecting on lessons learned both inside and outside the ring.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Announcing the Final Fight

• Retirement Decision

  • Garcia confirms that this is likely his last significant professional fight, explaining a decline in passion and desire to spend more time with his family.
  • Quote: “I could still fight, but I just feel like I’m not passionate as I used to be about it.” (03:17, Danny Garcia)

• Why Not Philly?

  • Originally planned for Philadelphia, the logistics and timing didn’t work out, so the final fight is in Brooklyn.
  • “Just didn’t have enough time to get it done.” (23:43, Danny Garcia)

2. Life, Fatherhood, and Sacrifice

• Emphasizes missing out on his children growing up and now wanting to be more present.
  • Quote: “My daughter’s already 10 years old, and I felt like I missed her grow up, to be honest. That’s how fast them 10 years went.” (05:00, Danny Garcia)
• Recognizes that sacrifices for success in boxing meant missing personal time.

3. Legacy, Recognition, and Being Underrated

• Despite being a multi-division champion, Garcia feels he didn’t always get proper industry or media credit, though the fans supported him.
  • “It’s how the fans looked at me. Sometimes you think you’re gonna be this loved person... then you go out to the masses, like, you the hated person.” (06:02, Danny Garcia)
• Credits his toughness and willingness to fight anybody, noting his underdog status in big fights.

4. Mental Health and Inactivity

• Opens up about his struggles with anxiety and depression during his career, especially during a two-year hiatus.
  • “From 2020 to 2022, that’s when I was going through like, anxiety and depression.” (07:58, Danny Garcia)
• Stresses the importance of living in the moment and personal growth outside the ring.
  • “Most of the stuff you’re worrying about is... the stuff that never happens.” (22:01, Danny Garcia)

5. Financial Literacy and Business Moves

• Danny shares how he avoided the financial dilemmas common among boxers by getting into real estate and stocks.
  • Quote: “A million is not a million. After everybody in boxing gets paid, it might be like 300.” (10:21, Danny Garcia)
  • Reads Warren Buffett and learns to invest for long-term security.
  • “I read like two Warren Buffett books... I just put everything I ever had in there.” (11:21, Danny Garcia)

6. The Business of Boxing and Self-Promotion

• Discusses his decision to stream his final fight on Millions Co and become a shareholder.
  • “Just taking a leap of faith, man... I’m betting on myself.” (24:05, Danny Garcia)
• Acknowledges missing the marketing aspect earlier in his career: “Growing up in Philly... if you promoted yourself or did anything weird, it’s like you get clowned for it.” (12:26, Danny Garcia)
• Breaks down promotional costs and the logistical headaches, revealing he invested $500-600k into this event.
  • “You gotta pay for everything. So if it don’t sell, [you] lost.” (27:39, Danny Garcia)

7. Reflections on Career, Regrets, and Standout Fights

• Wishes he fought Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao—Pacquiao had a choice of him or Thurman and picked Keith Thurman.
  • Quote: “[Pacquiao] said you want to fight Danny or Thurman? And he picked Thurman.” (15:41, Danny Garcia)
• Defines his legacy through underdog victories, especially the Amir Khan and Lucas Matthysse fights.
  • “The Amir Khan fight, I was the eighth to one underdog.” (20:59, Danny Garcia)
  • “That [Matthysse] was the defining fight, in my opinion, because I was an underdog again.” (21:41, Danny Garcia)

8. Thoughts on Modern Boxing (Influencers, Super-Fights)

• Lightly jokes about fighting influencers for big paydays but emphasizes “real boxing” as what matters to him.
• Reacts to the Crawford vs. Canelo fight:
  • “I thought Canelo was gonna win because he’s too strong... but Crawford did his thing.” (13:56, Danny Garcia)
• Reveals he has amateur wins over Crawford, continuing the playful rivalry.

9. The Mental Side of Boxing

• Talks about the pressure of returning from a loss and the mental challenge of the sport, as well as the importance of leaving healthy—“my health is my wealth.” (25:50, Danny Garcia)
• “I just want to leave the game in my brain right. I don’t want to be all punch drunk and stuff.” (25:50, Danny Garcia)

10. Retirement, Next Steps, and Legacy

• Plans to enjoy life with his kids, continue his boxing promotion company, and support his sisters in music.
• Will allow his kids to box if they want: “It’s the fastest way to a mill, right?” (24:45, Danny Garcia)
• Wants to be remembered as an inspiration: “Just an inspiration and somebody who never gave up.” (33:21, Danny Garcia)
• Hints at only coming out of retirement for the right paycheck: “I need, like, $10 million... The risk got to be worth the reward.” (33:52, Danny Garcia)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On fatherhood and missing family time:
  “I felt like I missed her grow up, to be honest. That’s how fast them 10 years went.”
  – Danny Garcia (05:00)
• On being underrated:
  “Sometimes you think you’re gonna be like this loved person, and then when you go out to the masses, like, you the hated person.”
  – Danny Garcia (06:02)
• On financial wisdom:
  “A million is not a million. … After everybody in boxing gets paid, it might be like 300.”
  – Danny Garcia (10:21) “I just went and bought some Warren Buffett books, and I just read like two Warren Buffett books.”
  – Danny Garcia (11:19)
• On career setbacks and lessons:
  “That [Keith Thurman] was my first loss. … When I lost, I felt like somebody died in my family.”
  – Danny Garcia (14:28)
• On deciding not to be a trash talker to sell fights:
  “I just like to show you in the ring. … Like right now I’m thirsty, I’m hungry [cutting weight]. … I don’t even know how people be having all that strength to be doing all that talking crazy.”
  – Danny Garcia (31:08)
• On his legacy:
  “I want to be, like, a role model to all the people, anybody in the world who got dreams and dreams that come true. … Just an inspiration and somebody who never gave up.”
  – Danny Garcia (33:21)

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Segment Guide (Timestamps)

• [03:06] Discussing retirement and passion for boxing
• [05:00] The impact of fatherhood on his decision
• [06:02] Thoughts on being underrated and Philly mentality
• [07:58] Anxiety, depression, and time away from boxing
• [10:21] Financial lessons and investment strategy
• [12:26] Self-promotion in boxing and influencer fight culture
• [13:56] Views on Crawford vs. Canelo, amateur rivalry
• [14:28] On his first loss and its emotional toll
• [20:59] Defining victories (Amir Khan, Matthysse)
• [22:01] Personal growth through struggles with anxiety
• [24:05] Streaming fight on Millions Co, betting on himself
• [27:39] The business challenges of self-promotion
• [31:08] Why he stayed away from trash talk/antics
• [33:21] How he wants to be remembered
• [33:52] What would bring him out of retirement (minimum $10 million)
• [34:07] Thoughts on legacy and mega-fights

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Episode Tone

Candid, thoughtful, and practical—Danny Garcia openly explores his career’s high points, mistakes, financial literacy, and personal growth with humor and humility, while The Breakfast Club hosts keep the dialogue engaging, supportive, and at times, playful.

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Summary prepared for listeners seeking the real story behind Danny Garcia’s final fight, his place in boxing, and the mindset of a champion who always bet on himself—in and out of the ring.

Transcript

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[Danny Garcia]

Every day I wake up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Angela Yee]

Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. I brought Akis with us. This morning, and we got a special guest in the building from.

[Danny Garcia]

Philly.

[DJ Envy]

Philly.

[Danny Garcia]

Philly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey.

[Angela Yee]

The brother, Danny Garcia. Welcome, bro.

[Danny Garcia]

Thank you. Appreciate it.

[Angela Yee]

How you feeling?

[Danny Garcia]

I feel good. Feel good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you really having a final fight against Daniel Gonzalez? Like, yeah, like, retired. Like, done, done.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, I feel like it. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really? Why do you think that?

[Danny Garcia]

Just, this is my 42nd fight. I've been pro since 2008, and, I mean, I won world titles. I had my ups, I had my downs, but just to be. I just feel like I could still fight, but I just feel like I'm not passionate as I used to be about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Interesting.

[Danny Garcia]

I don't want to let my fans down, but at the end of the day, I feel this fight, I feel good. I know what I got myself into. So it's my show, my promotion. That's what really promoted. That's what really motivated me to do this last fight. But other than that, I think that's pretty much it. I just feel like I want to give my fans everything that I got in that ring and. And I don't know if I could keep up that momentum and that type of love perspective.

[Angela Yee]

So you don't wanna beat up a couple of YouTubers, though, after that?

[Danny Garcia]

Like, oh, yeah, I'll do that.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I mean?

[Danny Garcia]

I'm talking about fights that, like, really count.

[Angela Yee]

Cause the YouTube fights, they see my money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go fight an influencer.

[Danny Garcia]

Facts. Yeah, that's for sure. Nah, I'll do that for sure. I'll still be an entertainer. I still go out there.

[DJ Envy]

But the decision you made happened. Must be. It must have been during training camp, because when you first announced this fight, you said, this is your farewell to Brooklyn. Yeah, but you still gonna fight again. But then it seems like that changed.

[Danny Garcia]

I said it was 85% chance that I.

[DJ Envy]

That you would fight again?

[Danny Garcia]

No, that I.

[DJ Envy]

Hang it up.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what was the.

[Angela Yee]

What was the last thing? Because you said that was the 85. So what was the.

[Danny Garcia]

The 15 is just because I'm a fighter.

[Angela Yee]

So what was the thing that said, nah, this is it. Was it. The training was like, Nah, my back hurt.

[Danny Garcia]

Like, No, I wasn't. It wasn't the training. It was like before I started. Before I even started training, I knew that this could be my last fight.

[Smart Water Announcer]

Does fatherhood play a part in it?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, definitely. I got three kids, three beautiful kids. And I got my son Danny, he's one. I got palace, she's three. And I got Philly, she's 10. So definitely just Being here, I'm missing time with them, and my daughter's already 10 years old, and I felt like I missed her grow up, to be honest. That's how fast them 10 years went. It's like, I missed so much, you know, because when you're in the primary career, everything's going so fast.

[Smart Water Announcer]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

It's like everything's like you miss everything. And I just felt like I missed her grow up. And I don't. I don't want to feel that with my other two kids.

[DJ Envy]

You gained a lot, though. I mean, missing.

[Danny Garcia]

Oh, yeah, like, for sure. It's a sacrifice, you know, in life, you. You know, you can't have it all. You can't have that beautiful family. Then you can't have the time, you can't have the money. Like, you just can't have it all. Every time you got to sacrifice something, you know how it goes to be successful.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, you've been a world champion in multiple weight classes, but I feel like people still underrate you. Why do you. Why do you think that is?

[Danny Garcia]

I don't know. Probably because I'm from Philly. I don't know. I really never understood that. But, like, even when I was an amateur, I was the number one amateur in 2006. And, you know, in the amateurs, you gotta fight the best every single day. You can't. There's no ducking and dodging. So sometimes it's harder to win a national title than to be a world champion. Cause a world champion, they could, like, kind of build you up and stuff like that. But I never understood. It's just how the fans looked at me. Sometimes you can't choose how people look at you. Sometimes you think you're gonna be like this loved person, and then when you go out to the masses, like, you the hated person. So it's just how. It's just how the people look at you. And that's how the people.

[DJ Envy]

Brooklyn loves you, though. I mean, you fought nine times already in bk, and for a long period of time, you held the record for the gate. Right. What fight was that?

[Danny Garcia]

Was that me and Thurman? 16,500.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, so.

[Danny Garcia]

And then Tanker and Rowley.

[DJ Envy]

Some people love you.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, yeah, for sure. So definitely the fans love me. I mean, probably, like, the politics of boxing is what I think he's trying to say. Like, they never gave me my credit, but I think the fans gave me my credit and the fans love me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said you just. You realizing that you don't have the passion Is this something you're just realizing or, you know, even. I think your last fight was against what, Lara, right?

[True Crime Narrator]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, and you got stopped in the knife round. Did you have the passion then or you think it was Wayne going away to.

[Danny Garcia]

I thought. I thought I was up for it. And then, remember, I was out for 28 months before that fight. I was out. And, you know, boxing, inactivity for a fighter, that's the worst thing for a boxer because you got to stay active, you got to stay sharp. So I thought I could do it. And I went up a weight class from 147 to 160.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah. So I was trying to do something legendary, but it didn't work my way, you know, but it's all good.

[Angela Yee]

So let's talk about that. You took two years off, they said, because of anxiety and depression. So what happened during that two years that says, you know what, I need to take a step aside? Like, what was concerning the Benavides fight.

[Danny Garcia]

To the Lara fight? I was actually already. I recovered from everything that was from, like, from 2020 to 2022. That's when I was going through, like, anxiety and depression. Then I came back. I beat Benavides. I put it all behind me. I just started looking at life different, started being appreciate things, being grateful, and I felt good. And then I just sat around for two and a half years. Not because I wanted to, because, you know, boxing is just sometimes it's just the way it is.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, you fought some killers, too. I mean, you think about Thurman and that. I mean, I swear I kind of forgot about some of those. I came in. We were just talking about. But you fought Thurman, you fought Porter, you fought Spence, but you never got stopped. Do you feel like your toughness, your toughness was taken for granted?

[Danny Garcia]

Oh, yeah, for sure. Two out of those three fights I felt like I won. You know, those are controversial fights, especially the. The Thurman and Porter fight. Many people thought I won those fights, but no, I always knew. Everybody knew I was gritty, I was tough. That's what got me here is my heart. So I never. Yeah, I never even been knocked down until my last fight because I took a knee. Really? I got hit with a good shot, I took a knee, and that. That's pretty much it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How come people don't factor stuff like that in, like, just somebody's toughness? Like.

[DJ Envy]

Like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean? Like, people do.

[DJ Envy]

People do. I mean, I agree with you. I think that Dan still doesn't get the credit he deserves. But when it's all said and done, I guess, you know, once they look back and, you know, you hang the gloves up and they go watch those fights, those historic fights, you know, you get in the hall of fame.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, for sure. I got you.

[DJ Envy]

You know, some people think I read something on the, like, a week ago about your fighting a random person. RG Said, oh, he's fighting this last fight because he needs money. But that's not the case with you. You've done really well with your money.

[Danny Garcia]

Pull up the money, right? It's my show, you know, so I'm not even doing it for the money.

[DJ Envy]

Right. But talk about that, though, like, how you one of the few fighters that has done well with your money and. And don't really need to fight every.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Year because you want a barbershop. You own businesses in Philly?

[Danny Garcia]

I have real estate investments with the banks, and that's pretty much how I live. I just live off my investments, like, the interest. That's all. Like, you know, rental income and then interest from the. From my stocks and my investments.

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[Danny Garcia]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What made you start thinking that way?

[Danny Garcia]

I just started reading, like, I used to wonder why, like, fighters went broke. Number one was taxes. Like, a million is not a million. No means like 400. Well, after, if you pay everybody in boxing, it might be, like, 300. So I just started looking at, like, why fighters go broke. Number one was taxes. So I'm like, okay, I got to make sure that when I get this check, I got enough to pay the taxes at the end of the year and still have some money left. So first I just stacked my money up, and then when I got to a certain point, I used to always go to. Into the bank, and the bank will tell me, like, you should. You should go to the wealth management department so they can help you, like, invest your money. The first time I went in there, it was like, stocks, but, you know, you coming from the hood. Everybody tells you, don't buy that stuff because you're gonna lose all your money and go broke. So I just went and bought some Warren Buffett books, and I just read, like, two Warren Buffett books. And then he was like, over the last hundred years, like, the market only crashed 10 times, but it always recovered. So when I read that, I'm like, look, this is a guy who's this. He's a. He's a master in his. So I put the whole thing in there. I just put everything I ever had in there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And What s. And P500 just see everything.

[Danny Garcia]

Like, so many, like, styles. I got 60% stocks and then, like, 40% bonds. So 40% of my money safe. And then the other is, like, you know, volatile.

[Smart Water Announcer]

What's your mindset going into this fight with it being your last fight?

[Danny Garcia]

Right.

[Smart Water Announcer]

Like, is there any additional pressure?

[Danny Garcia]

No, actually, I feel really good. I feel good. I feel relaxed. It's like I don't have no weight on my shoulders. I just feel like I'm a veteran in the game and I'm over that, like, psyching myself out stuff. I'm just taking it one day at a time. You know, sometimes you just worrying about the future so much that you kind of, like, psych yourself out. But now it's just like, I just try to learn how to enjoy every moment leading up to the fight.

[Angela Yee]

When you see these boxers get some of these huge paydays by fighting whoever they want, right? We Talked earlier about YouTube stars and influencers. Does that make you say, you know what? Forget quote unquote, real boxing. I'm gonna go this lane because there's more money in this lane.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, I mean, I wish I would've always thought like that. Like, growing up in Philly, it's like if you did, like, if you promoted yourself or did anything weird, it's like you, like, you get clowned for it, right? It's like, Philly, they teach you how to be, like, real. But I feel like that's what we're missing is, like, the marketing part.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said real, but real what?

[Danny Garcia]

It's just like, don't do not goofy for fame.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, gotcha, gotcha.

[Danny Garcia]

You know what I mean? Like, that's how I was always brought up. But it's like, really, you got to kind of have, like, a character, you know, you gotta be a fighter and you gotta be a entertainer. So I wish I would've been thought like that.

[Angela Yee]

So you wish you would've been put up?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, but I was, like, straight all in with it. Blood and guts. But yeah, yeah, I won't, you know, if it presents something's presented to me.

[DJ Envy]

You know, but not even, like, YouTubers. Also even the MMA fighters. Turki Elashica's been pouring a lot of money into the sport, and a lot of these fighters are getting huge paydays. I know Al Heyman, you know, he's done a lot for your career, and he made sure fighters get got paid well. But this Turkey, it's on a different level. Like with, you know, reports that Bud got 50 million against Canelo Canelo got a buck 50. And do you wish you maybe was part of this era?

[Danny Garcia]

No, not really. I mean, I'm grateful for whatever I got in my life.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

You know, I don't ever really count nobody else's pockets. You'd never be happy if you do that.

[DJ Envy]

What was your take on Bud's performance against Canelo? Did you see that coming? Who did you pick to win that fight?

[Danny Garcia]

I thought Canelo was gonna win because he's too strong. Like, I just thought he was gonna walk him down and Crawford was gonna try to box him, and then they was gonna give it to Canelo, like on a close fight, just cause he was the bigger fighter. But no, Crawford did his thing like, he did a beautiful performance.

[DJ Envy]

You fought him in the amateurs, right?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, two times.

[DJ Envy]

Two times?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, two times.

[DJ Envy]

Who won those fights?

[Danny Garcia]

Well, I won the first one, then he won the second one, but I felt like I won both.

[DJ Envy]

Fighters always feel like that in amateur. They always feel like they won fights.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was gonna ask you, what's the fight that keeps you up at night? Like, what's the one you wish you could run back?

[Danny Garcia]

Man, Keith Thurman, that fight was like. That was my first loss. And I was 330 before that. So I never dreamed about, like, losing. So when I lost, I felt like somebody died in my family, like, that's how bad it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did Floyd do that to a generation? I feel like Floyd did that to a generation. Floyd being undefeated made boxers feel like you gotta be undefeated to be great.

[Danny Garcia]

Nah, I never really cared about being undefeated, but it was like my first loss, it was tough, you know what I mean? Like your first time losing? I knew it was a possibility I could lose because I was fighting another great champion like myself, but I just felt unstoppable. So when I lost, it was like, damn. I learned something about myself.

[Smart Water Announcer]

So how did you recover and reset from that?

[Danny Garcia]

I just took a year off, came back and knocked somebody out and then forgot about it.

[DJ Envy]

What fight was that?

[Danny Garcia]

That was Brandon Reels.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Brandon was tough. I never. You never seen Brandon get knocked out like that? That was vicious. Who's somebody that you wish you would have fought from your era that you didn't?

[Danny Garcia]

Just Floyd and Pacquiao. That's about it.

[DJ Envy]

Floyd and Pacquiao, Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

I feel like I fought everybody else besides Crawford, but I fought him in amateurs.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Danny Garcia]

But I really fought every single body in my generation.

[DJ Envy]

Did you tr. Did you ever try to make a fight with Pacquiao back when you were.

[Danny Garcia]

At 147 when he fought Thurman, they offered him Me or Thurman? When he fought Thurman? Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Oh wow.

[Danny Garcia]

They said you want to fight Danny or Thurman? And he picked Thurman. Wow. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Floyd was never an option though, right?

[Danny Garcia]

Well, when I fought Matisse and he fought Canelo. Canelo. Remember I was the co main event. I was told if I beat Matisse, remember I was like a you run underdog again. Nobody thought I was gonna win, but they said if I won that fight that they were setting it up for me to fight.

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[Danny Garcia]

Hey, it's Ed Helms and welcome back to snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups on Our new season, we're bringing you a new Snafu every single episode.

[Maggie Freeling]

32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop.

[DJ Envy]

What?

[Danny Garcia]

Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s basketball player who still wore knee pads.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Danny Garcia]

It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests. The great Paul Scheer made me feel good. I'm like, oh, wow, Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here. What was that like for you to.

[Maggie Freeling]

Soft launch into the show?

[Danny Garcia]

Sorry, Jenna. I'll be asking the questions today. I forgot whose podcast we were doing. Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's see how it goes. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been.

[Smart Water Announcer]

Told and that to have truth is a whole lie.

[Maggie Freeling]

For almost a decade. Decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Danny Garcia]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Maggie Freeling]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Maggie Freeling]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or.

[Danny Garcia]

Burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said.

[Smart Water Announcer]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Maggie Freeling]

From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Danny Garcia]

America, y' all better wake the hell up.

[DJ Envy]

Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Danny Garcia]

Well, it just never happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. Which fights you think defined you as a fighter? Everybody always want to talk about the losses. Which one? Which was your. Which win you think defined you as a fighter? If you had to show people, this is why Danny Garcia needs to be in the hall of fame. Which fight would it be?

[Danny Garcia]

Well, the Amir Khan fight, I was the eighth to one underdog.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, I was eighth and one underdog. I remember when I came back to my room, my friend was laying in money. He put 10,000 on me. He was laying on the bed. I remember the mgm.

[DJ Envy]

Who was that?

[Danny Garcia]

It's my friend Eddie. My friend Eddie? Yeah. He made like 80,000. He was just laying on the money. And I was like, damn, I need a piece of that, because I ain't really make a lot of money. I just took it, cuz I was just trying to be great. But they said I got lucky on that fight. But then I came back, I beat Morales again, I beat Judah in Brooklyn. Then they fed me to Matisse.

[DJ Envy]

That was the defining fight, in my.

[Danny Garcia]

Opinion, because I was an underdog again. And I went in there and I beat him. And I was like, what you gonna say?

[DJ Envy]

And he was knocking everybody out. Like, he was coming off big knockout. That was a big win.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And, you know, you talked earlier about taking time off for mental health reasons. What did you learn about yourself during that break that fighting could never teach you?

[Danny Garcia]

That's a good question. You just gotta be like, I was always a worrier. Like, I was worried about stuff. Like, I just. I learned that I can't. You can't save everything, you know, I mean, I can't change the world as much as you want. Like, you try to help, you know, you try to do this, you try to do that. I just try to. Yeah. Can't save the world. And basically, like, I just try to be. Live in the moment. That's it. Because most of the stuff you're worrying about is, like, the stuff that never happens. And I don't know. I was always like that. I'd just be worried thinking about things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what anxiety is.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, I'll just be. If I got a fight, I'll just be thinking about it, like, every day. I cannot get my mind off the damn fight. And I'm thinking that I'm focused, but I'm really just psyching myself out. But as soon as I go in the ring, it just go away. But I just hate that feeling, like, you know, it's like you can't get that thought out your head.

[DJ Envy]

You feeling like that now?

[Danny Garcia]

No, I feel good now.

[Smart Water Announcer]

But look, though, say you do lose, is that retirement gonna be reversed? Like, now I gotta fight one more person. I got to win.

[Danny Garcia]

I got to leave on a w.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got to leave on a win.

[Danny Garcia]

No, I Can't lose. Yeah, I can't lose.

[Smart Water Announcer]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

The way I've been training and the way I've been. The way I've been preparing myself, I can't lose. There's no way I could lose this fight.

[Smart Water Announcer]

Gotcha.

[Danny Garcia]

I mean, you know, but. Nah, nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why didn't you want your last fight in Philly?

[Danny Garcia]

I actually tried to do it in Philly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Danny Garcia]

We actually tried to do it out front of the art museum, like first time ever. It wasn't enough time. And then I would have had to wait till like next year and that would have been on another layoff, two year layoff, waiting around again. It just didn't. Just didn't have enough time to get it done.

[DJ Envy]

And it's not just like your last fight. You doing it like you mentioned earlier, on your terms. You're part owner of Millions Co, which the fight is gonna be streamed on. Now, pay per view has been tough. Piracy is kill pay per view in boxing. Right. Like, what made you make that decision and believe in this company, Millions Co to stream your fight? Charge people.

[Danny Garcia]

I'm just taking a leap of faith, man. That's it. That's it. Just taking a chance. I've been taking chances my whole career.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Danny Garcia]

You know, so I'm gonna take a chance. It's gonna be on my own show. I'm bet on myself, basically.

[Smart Water Announcer]

What you gonna do when you retire? Like, how do you plan to spend that? What you gonna do?

[Danny Garcia]

Have fun, raise his kids. Yeah, that's it. Raise my kids, have fun. And I got my boxing promotion too, so I'm still gonna be promoting boxing.

[Smart Water Announcer]

And you in the music lane, you got your own music imprint.

[Angela Yee]

Stay away from music.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, I know, but you can work.

[Smart Water Announcer]

With your little sisters.

[Danny Garcia]

They make music. Yeah, for sure. My sisters got dreams, so I'm always gonna support they dreams and be there for them.

[DJ Envy]

What about your kids, boxing? If they want to box, would you support that?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, I let them fight. I let them fight. It's the fastest way to a mill, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're funny.

[Danny Garcia]

I can teach them how to fight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Teach them how to fight. The funny thing you said about marketing too. I was thinking about it. I'm like, damn, it's mad. People in Philly that know how to market theyself and don't look goofy though, like Gilly the Wild. Kevin Hart's.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, but before they was all serious, remember? Well, not Kevin Hart, he was serious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The chicken man, though.

[Smart Water Announcer]

But he was serious about that.

[Angela Yee]

We wasn't.

[Danny Garcia]

Now he's being himself. Yeah, he was probably always like that, you know, funny, laughing around. But, you know, in Philly, it was just like, gotta be tough. Yeah. It's just how people. This is how they talk, they teach people, or how you raised.

[DJ Envy]

Are you worried, though, about, like, I know you want to retire, but do you get scared? Like, damn, once this, I'm done with this, it's really over. Because this is your whole life. You've been boxing since, what, seven years old? Years old. Like, do you get scared?

[Danny Garcia]

Sometimes I think about it, I'm like, hey, what I'm do now?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, it kind of defines you in a way.

[Danny Garcia]

But at the end of the day, my health is my wealth, and that's the most important thing to me. As long as I'm healthy and I'm good, I know I could always make money or make deals or something like that. You know what I mean? I just want to leave the game in my brain. Right. I don't want to be all punch drunk and stuff.

[Smart Water Announcer]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

I mean, that's the real stuff.

[Smart Water Announcer]

And then you got baby kids, you got young, so you definitely want to.

[Danny Garcia]

Be flirting with my kids and stuff like that.

[Smart Water Announcer]

Yeah, you don't want to be that way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who mentored you on the business side of boxing or the business side?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, like I said before. Well, my pop always told me, buy real estate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Danny Garcia]

So like, even, like, back in Philly, like in when I first turned pro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, I mean the business side of just boxing.

[Danny Garcia]

Oh, the business side. Oh, really? Just me and my dad. I mean, and then Al Heyman. That's pretty much it. That's the only person I ever work with, like, talking real businesses. Angel Garcia and Al Heyman, that was it. It was just us three. Like, the whole run, that whole run of all them people I fought, that was just me, angel and Al Heyman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When'd you start making real money in the ring, Rent?

[Danny Garcia]

Well, I made my first million dollars in 2012 when I fought Eric Morales.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Danny Garcia]

And then after that, like, I made 2 million, 3 million.

[Angela Yee]

When you seen Floyd create his own promotion company back then and do it on his own, did that not make you think, you know what? Let me do that?

[Danny Garcia]

Cause Floyd.

[Angela Yee]

It seemed like Floyd just took a leap of faith and said, I'm gonna do all this on myself and created a brand doing it. Was that part of the inspiration to do what you.

[Danny Garcia]

I mean, Floyd's inspired me in ways he has, definitely. But I always wanted to do my own promotion. I always wanted to do, like, have my own fighter. My Own stable and things like that.

[Angela Yee]

How difficult is that? Cause from the outside it seems like, ah, I just promote myself and go to the fight and just that. But how difficult is it? Break it down of what it actually.

[Danny Garcia]

It'S probably better off just being a fighter, to be honest.

[DJ Envy]

Really?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah. Like if you sign to a good promoter and they got a good TV deal or something and they paying for it, that's probably the best way to go. Because remember, you the promoter, you got to put out the money, you got to pay for the production, you got to pay for the, the ambulance in the back, you got to pay for everything. So if it don't sell, lost. Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

So for this fight, how much you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sat up straight thinking about it? Oh man, all that money we spent.

[Angela Yee]

How much do you, you know, you ain't gotta give us exact. But how much you think around you had to put out for this fight right here?

[Danny Garcia]

Half a million, six hundred thousand.

[Angela Yee]

And did you make it back yet with the pre sales and all that yet?

[Danny Garcia]

Well, yeah, we there. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we there.

[Danny Garcia]

We there. So I'm saying we get some goodbyes and we get some good walk ins. We in the green, we straight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you would have rather done this with a PBC or a Top Rank or the Zone or somebody? Like.

[Danny Garcia]

I would have loved to done like them streaming?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

He said, I'm tired of this. No, no, like I still would have did it the same way, but if they would, if I'd use their platform. But it just wasn't enough time, you know. And then the millions came around. They was like, we'll give you shares of the company and stuff like that. So I'm like, hey, I gotta think like a businessman now. You never know, in 10 years, yeah, they might be a billion dollar company. Now I own some shares of the company, they sell it and I'm good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Angela Yee]

But how do you focus with. Cause you train it for a fight. Yeah, but then on the business side you like, man, I hope these tickets suck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I gotta get the ammo, right?

[Danny Garcia]

I got distractions, I gotta get the.

[Angela Yee]

Undercards, I gotta make sure the. No.

[Danny Garcia]

Well, my guy Mike right here, he's my partner, he. So he, he take care all of that. He take care of all of us. I'm sure.

[Angela Yee]

You called Mike though. Mike, how many tickets we sold today, Mike?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, I told, I asked him yesterday how much we sold. He was like, yeah, we sold. It's going good. Yeah. So it's tough, but I try not to worry about it. Cause I gotta worry about Fighting. And then whatever happens after then, I'll just deal. I'll deal with it then. But the most important thing for me is getting this win.

[DJ Envy]

Have you got any advice? Have you talked to Al Heymon at all before this fight or about what you're doing?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, he knows everything. He knows everything.

[DJ Envy]

Did he give you any advice? Like, what did he say was this, you know?

[Danny Garcia]

Well, he just told. He just told his attorney to make sure that I'm good. Like, don't let nobody, like basically don't let nobody dirty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's good.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How'd your pops feel when you told him you wanted to retire? Was he even the person that might have came to you and been like.

[Danny Garcia]

Yo, nah, he want me to fight 10 more times. He don't ever want me to stop by.

[Angela Yee]

Keep going.

[Danny Garcia]

Every time he put, he just touched me like, damn, man, I can't believe this shit. I'm about to be over. I'm like, it's not over, pops. Don't worry, we still here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How did he take it when you first told him, though?

[Danny Garcia]

I don't think he believes me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, he believes me, but he.

[Danny Garcia]

But he does, but he don't. Cause he loves boxing. Like, he loves it more than me. You know, boxing, he just, it gave us everything, you know what I mean? It just changed our lives. So for me to say I'm not boxing no more, it's like, damn, you don't want to do something to change your life. But life after boxing, he said, I'm.

[Smart Water Announcer]

Gonna go grab my grandkids, then we go and train.

[Angela Yee]

I'm gonna train my younger one, right? You know, when you look at a lot of boxers, a lot of boxers get disrespectful when it comes to the match, right? I mean, we didn't see them talk about people's mothers heritage. We done seen some nasty stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Inviting them to the genitals, crazy.

[Angela Yee]

But they do anything to sell fights. But you never got there. How come? Why would you say that? You never did that.

[Danny Garcia]

I don't think that's my personality, to be honest. I'm just kind of like, I'm the type of person, I just like to show you in the ring. I don't know how people got energy, like losing weight and everything. Like right now I'm thirsty, I'm hungry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got a ring.

[Danny Garcia]

So I don't even know how people be having all that strength to work, doing all that talking crazy and stuff. So it's just probably just your personality.

[DJ Envy]

Would you go to Puerto Rico is a country that they love boxing, obviously. You fought there one time? Yeah, long time ago. Do you want to tap in more to that, like, culture? Because one thing they. They show love. Even the ex champions, retired champions, like the Trinidad Dakotos, they be making appearances all over there. They love fighters. Like, have you ever thought about, like, exploring Puerto Rico a little bit more?

[Danny Garcia]

I thought about moving there.

[DJ Envy]

Really?

[Danny Garcia]

I should have moved there 10 years ago. Tax ain't no taxes.

[Angela Yee]

What?

[Danny Garcia]

And I'm Puerto Rican?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, you can still do it.

[Danny Garcia]

And I'll probably learn how to speak Spanish and everything.

[Smart Water Announcer]

Oh, you don't know how to speak Spanish?

[DJ Envy]

Nah. I was raised in the which, fourth? Is that your pop culture?

[Danny Garcia]

So when I went to school, it was like, there was no, like, Puerto Ricans in my school or none. It was just like, I went to school with, like, blacks and whites. It was, like, mixed. And then I grew up, like, it wasn't no Puerto Ricans in my neighborhood, so. And then, like, it's like New York. A lot of New Yorkers don't speak Spanish either.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you don't, he is black.

[Danny Garcia]

He may look like. But I'm black.

[Angela Yee]

I'm black.

[Danny Garcia]

But not all black.

[Angela Yee]

I'm all black Dominican.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did Puerto Ricans ever want you to rep, though? Did they ever be like, nah, man, why don't you rep us?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, yeah. They just can't understand how I can't speak Spanish, like, when I'm in Puerto Rico or something. How you can't speak Spanish. I'm like, bro, same way you can't speak English.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolute.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah. So I'm like, you can't speak English because you live in Puerto Rico? I can't speak English. I live in America. And he was like. And he was like, damn, I never thought about that. He was like, I never thought about that. I was like, yeah, I never thought about that to now either.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When it's all said and done, how do you want people to describe Danny Garcia as a boxer, a businessman, or just a kid who survived the streets of Philly?

[Danny Garcia]

Just inspiration. I want to be, like, a role model to all the people, anybody in the world who got dreams and dreams that come true. If you never give up. Just an inspiration and somebody who never gave up.

[DJ Envy]

Let's say you win big on Saturday at the Barclays center and you retire in the ring, who would bring you back out of retirement? Like, what fight? Or what fight? You would say, you know what, pops, we're going to do it one more time.

[Danny Garcia]

I need, like, 10 million. So whoever.

[DJ Envy]

All right, so it's a number. It's not a fight, It's a number.

[Danny Garcia]

10 million.

[DJ Envy]

10 mil.

[Danny Garcia]

The risk got to be worth the reward.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, doubt tell me is a good number.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I wanted to ask you about.

[Danny Garcia]

The Terrence speak it into existence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You told Terence to stay at 168 and just fight Canelo again. Yeah, like if he came down to 160, you said, you know, that would be a pro. I don't know if you use the word problem.

[Danny Garcia]

No, I didn't say no. I don't say problem.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said they're hungry down there.

[Danny Garcia]

I said, yeah, they are hungrier, but they're lesser names, you know. So why you just came off winning a big name fight. You're gonna go fight a guys. Some guys at 160 that people really don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gotcha.

[Danny Garcia]

I just say go for the. Go for the big name again and get. Now you're gonna get more money because you beat him.

[DJ Envy]

To fight Canelo again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said rematch.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, they're talking about it.

[Danny Garcia]

I think that makes sense.

[DJ Envy]

At 160 won't be mega fights.

[Danny Garcia]

That's what I'm saying.

[DJ Envy]

But he wants to conquer. He wants to be undisputed in four way classes. At 160, he feels like that's a legacy that nobody would ever chase. But that's tough because then you got to fight everybody to be undisputed.

[Danny Garcia]

Well, I think they about to unify, right? Like Laura and the one dude.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I think so. So maybe if they all fight and one guy is undisputed, then he only got to fight one fight.

[Danny Garcia]

Just like you did for this year.

[DJ Envy]

But he's 38, though, man.

[Danny Garcia]

Like, I mean me, if I'm gonna do it again, I'm probably. I'll do it against Canelo, the biggest name again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

And make a lot of money again. And you're going to be the A side this time. Yeah, that's just how I would think.

[DJ Envy]

So you go. You'll go off to 168 and fight Canelo? If that presented itself, Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

I need 20 for Canelo because I know he drawing that money.

[Smart Water Announcer]

That's why your father don't believe you.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, but nah, I'm not even thinking about that.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, no doubt. Thinking about Saturday Barclays.

[Angela Yee]

That's right, this Saturday. Well, we wish you the best, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what's the platform again?

[Danny Garcia]

It's called Millions Co Millions and it's on DirecTV.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Danny Garcia]

So if you got DirecTV, you can watch it on there. So Millions Co is the platform.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Millions Co. Or if you're in New.

[DJ Envy]

York, pull up to the Barclays.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Saturday the 18th. Get there, get your tickets, and like we said, we wish you the best of luck, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely, man. Congratulations on whatever it is you decide to do, man.

[Danny Garcia]

Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.

[Angela Yee]

Absolutely. It's Danny Garcia, O.C. we appreciate you. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

Hold up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. It's the Breakfast Club. Y' all finish or y' all done?

[Johnny Knoxville]

Hello, America's sweetheart. Johnny Knoxville here. I want to tell you about my new true crime podcast, Crimeless Hillbilly Heist from Smartless Media, Campside Media and big money players. It's a wild tale about a gang of high functioning nitwits who somehow pulled off America's third largest cash heist.

[Danny Garcia]

Kind of like Robin Hood, except for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The part where he steals from the rich and gives to the poor. I'm not that generous.

[Johnny Knoxville]

It's a damn near inspiring true story for anyone out there who's ever shot for the moon, then just totally muffed up the landing. They stole $17 million and had not.

[Danny Garcia]

Bought a ticket to help him escape.

[Smart Water Announcer]

So we're sitting like, oh God, what do we do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do we do? That was dumb. People, do not follow my example.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maggie Freeling]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[DJ Envy]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire scene. Season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[True Crime Narrator]

Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungey. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. And that text message would be the last time anyone would ever see hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maggie Freeling]

In early 1988, federal agents raced to.

[Danny Garcia]

Track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

[DJ Envy]

Had 30 agents ready to go with.

[Danny Garcia]

Shotguns and rifles and you name it. Five, six white people pushed me in the car.

[Smart Water Announcer]

I'm going, what the hell?

[Danny Garcia]

Basically, your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you gotta do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She was very upset, crying.

[Danny Garcia]

Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

[Smart Water Announcer]

This is an iHeart podcast.