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INTERVIEW: Edgar Berlanga Talks Upcoming Match, Canelo Loss, Shakur Vs. Tank, Oscar De La Hoya Beef + More
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Angela Yee
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Edgar Berlanga
The Breakfast Club.
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Charlemagne tha God
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Ock is here with us today and we got a special guest in the building. Ed Good Banga. He's back in here. How you feeling?
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Carlos Miller
What's good, my brother? Everything good, man.
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Charlemagne tha God
Fight this weekend. How you feeling?
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Carlos Miller
Feeling good? Yeah, I'm saying got like a eight week camp in Boulder, Colorado back when I went back to where I was training there for. For the con fight. Feeling good, though.
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Edgar Berlanga
Feeling good.
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Carlos Miller
I'm back in the city, man. You know what I'm saying? Main event. Haven't been here, haven't fought here in like two and A half years, you know, so feels good.
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Angela Yee
How does it take to get refocused after, after the Canelo loss?
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Carlos Miller
It wasn't really a loss, you know what I'm saying? I feel like everybody, you know, it was a great fight, but I bounced back pretty good, you know I'm saying I came back with a first round knockout, you know, 17 first round knockouts now. And it just, it brought experience to me, you know what I'm saying? I gained a lot of experience being in there with him, you know what I'm saying? He's a legend at the end of the day, you feel me? And me going in there with no experience, I have no type of nothing, you feel me? I just went in there with, with what I got, you know, I'm saying my skill and whatever, a little bit of experience I got as a pro, and you know what I'm saying? I feel like I did pretty well.
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Charlemagne tha God
What did you learn from that fight?
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Carlos Miller
A lot I learned what it feel. First of all, the feeling to be at the top, you know what I'm saying? Because finding a guy like him, you know, that's the top of the pinnacle of boxing, you know what I'm saying? You don't get no higher than that, you feel, feel me? And in my generation, like dudes that I came out with, you know what I'm saying? From the amateurs, I'm the only guy in my generation that fought a legend, you feel me? Wow. And then, you know what I'm saying, I was like, them fighting Florida, them fighting Manny Pacquiao or something, you feel me? I fought Canelo right now. If you really, you know what I'm saying? Canelo is, he's a living legend right now, you know what I'm saying? He's gonna go down as one of the best Mexican fighters of all time. And just being at that level, for me to fighting in front of 20,000 people, being on pay per view, the magnitude of the fight, you know what I'm saying? The weigh in was probably about 5,000 people at the win, you know what I'm saying? So just gaining that type of experience because fighters, you know that, that, that get at that level, they can't really, that's a, that's. That energy is crazy, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes a fighter could be in the gym, look good and hit the bag and sparring, look, look like Floyd Mayweather, look like Andre Ward, but then, you know what I'm saying, they up against 20,000 Mexicans, you know what I'm saying. And you got them screaming, your mother. Your. You know, we're gonna. Your wife. You know what I'm saying? And Fat Joe's with me, you know what I'm saying? We walking in like, you. Fat Joe, like, you know what I'm saying? It's different. And just gaining that whole experience as a fighter was amazing.
- [04:28]
Edgar Berlanga
You know, you have a lot of respect for Canelo. You showing it now, but especially after the fight. But then a couple months after, you guys are going back and forth, you was, you know, what did he say to you that offend you? That then you was back on a disrespectful wave?
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Carlos Miller
Yeah, cuz. You know, like, at the end of the day, I got. I have respect for him, you know what I'm saying? And I still got respect for him as a fighter, but I felt like he was disrespecting me when. When he started going on a rampage that whole. His whole fight week saying, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was running, like, oh, I was trying surviving. I was trying to survive, you know what I'm saying? Like, and then it comes to show, he talking all that, and then next thing you know, he fight Skull and skulls, running laps around the whole ring, 12 rounds, you know what I'm saying? So I started laughing. I'm like, nah. Yeah, you bugging, bro. Like, I was there the whole time.
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Edgar Berlanga
You definitely weren't surviving, you know what I'm saying?
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Carlos Miller
I don't know. I was just, you know, my skill. That's it.
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Angela Yee
You got. I heard you say you want a rematch with him.
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Carlos Miller
I want one, you know, but I know that, you know, right now I gotta. You know, I gotta. I gotta make my mark first, you know what I'm saying? I got July 12th to focus on. Gotta knock this dude out, you know what I'm saying? I probably got to do another big fight and then we could see, you know what I'm saying? But I. For real, for real, like, the Mexican people's asking for that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm all over, you know, I'm in Cali, I'm in Texas, I'm in Florida, you know, playing city while I train, and there's a whole bunch of Mexicans and everything. They.
- [05:46]
Angela Yee
Every.
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Carlos Miller
Every time they see me, they always like, every Mexican is like, we want that rematch. You got to get that rematch with Canelo, man. You got to get that.
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Edgar Berlanga
Yeah, but Canelo's about to fight Terence Crawford, right? So. And that fight, at one point, was Wide with the odds now, it's only 2 to 1. So a lot of people are picking Bud for that fight. I mean, what if Bud, I guess the size when they. When they see him, Bud and Canelo next to each other. Bud has longer arms. The size difference is not big because Canelo is small for 168, you know what I mean? It's like, so what if Bud beats Canelo? Is that a fight that you'll entertain?
- [06:21]
Carlos Miller
Of course, you know, he gonna have all the belts, so. And who's the big. I'm the biggest fighter he could fight at.168 right now. You know I'm saying everybody, you know, right. Caleb Laws.
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Edgar Berlanga
So. So you'll be done chasing a Canelo rematch if Bud beats him, but it'll be your new target.
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Carlos Miller
Yeah, we want the bells, you know what I'm saying? When it's all said done, I'm in this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Who do you think wins that fight, to be honest? I'll be honest, man. You know, Canelo just got the size difference. For me, Bud is. Is a two time on the scooter. World champ, you know what I'm saying? Bug got the iq, he got everything. I feel like the only difference in that fight and if. If Canelo does win is because of his size, you know what I'm saying? He been in there with me. He been in there with Bivo, you know what I'm saying? He's been in there with big, big, big dudes, you feel me? So I know Crawford's power ain't gonna do nothing to him, you know what I'm saying? And his skill, he got skill, don't get me wrong. But this dude is strong, you feel me? So I feel like he gonna probably try to just walk him down, just use his strength against him.
- [07:20]
Angela Yee
No. Boxing News24 said your desire to have a rematch against Canelo is a diluted pipe dream.
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Carlos Miller
Yeah.
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Angela Yee
What are your thoughts on that?
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Carlos Miller
Who's that? Who's that?
- [07:28]
Angela Yee
Boxing News 24.
- [07:29]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, they always hating on me, though. Yeah, they always hating on me. I don't give a about them. Whoever own that. That site, eat up, you know what I'm saying? Them dudes, they always. They always talking.
- [07:43]
Angela Yee
That's the radio edit. He wants to eat a.
- [07:50]
Carlos Miller
Whoever owned that page. Because every, every time. He's always throwing something. I don't know if it's a girl, I don't know who it is, but they always throwing some. Some shady at me, you know what I'm saying them, at the end of the day, they don't. They don't dictate, you know what I'm saying? What's going on at the end of the day, if we do. If we don't, then it is what it is. But at least I know I'm chasing greatness at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying?
- [08:08]
DJ Envy
Do you know your. Your opponent's weaknesses for the fight coming up?
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Carlos Miller
Yeah, he saw, bro. He so, man, he from the uk, you know what I'm saying? So when you. When you bring him over on this side is a different. It's different, you know what I'm saying? See, like, us, if we go over there, like, I was born. I'm born and raised from New York, you know what I'm saying? So I'm from the trenches. I go over there, I'm having that. I'm having my energy going to be up here. Them dudes come over here and they fold them. They, they, they. You know what I'm saying? And he solved. I could see it, you know what I'm saying? He saw.
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Edgar Berlanga
Did you and Shakur squash it a little? Because I know that's your bro from back in the day, from the amateurs, but when he was here last time, he kind of felt the way about you being on the main event, but then he went on Twitter and on socials, like, you know what? That's my bro. I was out of line, kind of.
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Carlos Miller
So what?
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Edgar Berlanga
Explain that whole situation.
- [09:00]
Carlos Miller
Knockout started going crazy. I mean, they sent that to me at like, four in the morning. Yeah, right. I was talking to him, and I just felt like, you know, I text, I said first, I. I was like, it. I didn't even hit him. I just.
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Edgar Berlanga
You went on Twitter or something?
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Carlos Miller
On Instagram, you know what I'm saying? Because what he said.
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Edgar Berlanga
What'd you say on Instagram again?
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Charlemagne tha God
Not eat it, eat up, eat it.
- [09:22]
Carlos Miller
No, no, I was just, you know, just. I was just chatting and by, you know, like, oh, you know, trying to get him tight, you know what I'm saying? Because he got me tight. So I'm like. I was just talking about his hands, you know, brutal hands. And. But you know what I'm saying, like, at the end of the day, I thought offended come. Like, then you, my. You my brother. You know what I'm saying? And we. We supposed to be cool. You feel me? And at the end of the day, I told them because he called me, and then we spoke, and I was like, yo, brought the end of the day, New York is my city. And the first thing I told Turkey and. And the whole organization, I said, yo, bro, if I'm fighting on your car, if I main event, I mean, if I'm finding on a car to New York, I don't give a. If it's Benavidez, Bivo Arthur, better be them is not gonna be on top of me in my city. You know, I'm saying not right now. Not at all. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm. I'm too much of a big of a star to be co. Main event in New York. You know what I'm saying? And. And I told Shakur, said, yo, bro, if Turkey would have said, yo, y' all finding the Prudential, y' all finding Newark or Jersey, I'm gonna push your core as main event, I would have been like, all right, cool. You know what I'm saying? That's my brother. You got to respect that. Then the day as your city, that's just. You know, I'm saying New Jersey's your. You feel me? Cool. I was like, yo, bro, respectfully, New York is my. You know, I'm saying. And nobody, at the end of the day, nobody gonna go over me in New York. You know what I'm saying? But he. You know, I'm saying he was. He was just more tight because of how they was treating him. I'm saying he felt like it was. And I'd say, yo, brother, days, a double main event, so it don't really matter. They treating us like a double main event. You know, I'm saying they're giving us the same privileges. The only difference is that I'm walking out last.
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Edgar Berlanga
Who's getting a bigger purse?
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Carlos Miller
I don't know.
- [11:00]
Angela Yee
Now, you called Hazma soft, right? But he's undefeated. I think he's got, like, 17 knockouts. Does that impact you at all mentally?
- [11:08]
Carlos Miller
N. I don't know. He lost his last fight. He did, yeah, he lost. He got.
- [11:13]
Edgar Berlanga
But not technically.
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Carlos Miller
Technically, but he lost. But he lost.
- [11:16]
Edgar Berlanga
You know, a lot of people felt that he. That he didn't get that decision over there bad.
- [11:22]
Carlos Miller
And his. And his in his side, too. That over there in Saudi with his people as. As well by the Dominican dude. But I'm not gonna sit here and say, you know, the dude is trash, because obviously I took him as an opponent, but you know what I'm saying?
- [11:37]
Charlemagne tha God
I'm not gonna say he trash. He said he trashed three times.
- [11:39]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, but you know what I mean, like, he.
- [11:40]
Edgar Berlanga
He looked great against Ammo Williams.
- [11:42]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, I mean, Ammo could punch.
- [11:46]
Edgar Berlanga
Nah, I wouldn't call Ammo. I mean, he got some good wins under his belt. No, he got some good wins. I mean, I thought it was a good win against Ammo. Ammo could punch that dude, bro.
- [11:56]
Carlos Miller
That dude, he looked like a novice fighting that guy. Man, you crazy. Ammo, I'm gonna shiraz up.
- [12:09]
Edgar Berlanga
What's your issue with Oscar De La Hoya? I gotta ask you. Because you were going to meeting before you signed a match room with Eddie Hearn and him. He wanted to sign up. You were meeting. You were me. You met up with everybody. I saw you, your pops, Oscar in the office.
- [12:23]
Charlemagne tha God
You guys are cool.
- [12:24]
Carlos Miller
That boy Oscar was so happy.
- [12:27]
Edgar Berlanga
So what happened, though? Why you attacking him? Sending fishnet pictures on the Internet?
- [12:32]
Charlemagne tha God
Panties.
- [12:33]
Edgar Berlanga
No, I'm saying, like, pictures posted. Eat up, eat up. Too much hate, bro.
- [12:45]
Carlos Miller
Eat up with your feet up.
- [12:46]
Edgar Berlanga
Oscar ain't never. I mean, he always been good with me. I want to know what's the issue with some fighters having so much hate towards Oscar? What's your problem with Oscar?
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Carlos Miller
All right, listen. My problem with Oscar is you supposed to be a promoter. Be a promoter. You know what I'm saying? Like, be a promoter. He trying to be something else. Not only that, he's a guy that he's. He's a legend. You know what I'm saying? You got to respect it. He did a lot in the sport.
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Edgar Berlanga
He fought everybody. Never ducked anybody.
- [13:11]
Carlos Miller
So as far as credentials, I respect them. But when you start, like when I. When we fought, the whole. Started when we fought Canelo, you know what I'm saying? Because, remember, he wanted. He wanted to sign me. He flew just to try to get that deal with me. He flew a jet from LA straight to New York just to sit down with me, and then sat down with me for two hours, and he hopped on his jet and lived back to la, right? And I'm saying, he was like. He was like, oh, my God. I want. You know.
- [13:41]
Edgar Berlanga
So why did that. Why didn't that work out?
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Carlos Miller
Yeah, why.
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Charlemagne tha God
Yeah, why didn't you sign him?
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Carlos Miller
Because the numbers we was. We was telling him we wanted, he. He couldn't do it. You know what I'm saying? They couldn't. They couldn't match it. You feel me? And obviously, you know, Eddie. Eddie was the one that matched what we wanted, and that's why we got with Eddie. But. And then during the Canelo press in Vegas, Oscar just kept going. You know what I'm saying just. Well, you know that clap back Thursday, he be doing that.
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Edgar Berlanga
Oh, yeah, yeah. On Instagram.
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Carlos Miller
That is. That is.
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Edgar Berlanga
Sometimes it's funny. I don't know. I be clapping at some people. It be funny. So he. You want to clap back Thursdays, he threw some shots at you.
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Carlos Miller
Oh, yeah. And then. And during the press conference, I said, yo, I'mma smack the out of you when I see you right so now.
- [14:21]
Edgar Berlanga
But you ain't really going to do that. You ain't really going to get into.
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Carlos Miller
A bro that come next to him. I'm smacking him. Damn.
- [14:27]
Angela Yee
Damn.
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Edgar Berlanga
Is that why, though?
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Carlos Miller
Huh?
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Edgar Berlanga
I mean, it ain't. I ain't got no real beef.
- [14:31]
Carlos Miller
I'mma smack the Botox out of that. Damn. Yo, listen, so the. That we did it. The right. Whatever Cool is six months later, Boom. Six months. This dude put up a video of him smoking a blunt, talking about he gonna come fight week, and he want to see if you're gonna smack the shot of me. And he went on another podcast like, two days later saying he gonna smack this out of me. So I said, okay. I was. I want to see that energy when you. When I see you fight, I want to see if you're gonna smack the out of me. Now. I got a surprise for him on the press conference, a big surprise for him.
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Edgar Berlanga
This week.
- [15:03]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, this week press conference. I got a super stupa. Surprise.
- [15:06]
Edgar Berlanga
Really? You throw a hint? But, like, what? Like, is it a What kind of surprise?
- [15:10]
Carlos Miller
Like, it's going to be legendary. It's going to be legendary. It's going to be legendary.
- [15:15]
Angela Yee
You got to stay focused.
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Carlos Miller
I understand.
- [15:18]
Angela Yee
I understand you don't like Oscar, but you still got to stay focused on the fight at.
- [15:21]
Charlemagne tha God
I don't know what the surprises is down.
- [15:23]
Edgar Berlanga
I don't watch the press conference.
- [15:24]
Charlemagne tha God
Yeah, what's the press conference?
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Carlos Miller
I got to see the surprise. Thursday.
- [15:26]
Charlemagne tha God
Thursday.
- [15:26]
Carlos Miller
All right, Thursday. I'm telling you, it's going to be viral.
- [15:31]
Edgar Berlanga
Him don't swing on him don't mess up the whole promotion.
- [15:34]
Carlos Miller
No, no, no, no, no. He gonna sue me if I. All right, then, you know, I'm. Instead of fighting Shiraz, I'm gonna be fighting him.
- [15:41]
Angela Yee
Yeah, but you gonna bring out the person who took the pictures of him in the fishnet.
- [15:44]
Edgar Berlanga
But he can't use that against him anymore. He came out. Yeah, you know, clean.
- [15:48]
Charlemagne tha God
They go back viral.
- [15:50]
Carlos Miller
He came maybe.
- [15:55]
DJ Envy
Hey, I'm confused. He came out.
- [15:56]
Angela Yee
He gay.
- [15:57]
Edgar Berlanga
No, not gay.
- [16:02]
Charlemagne tha God
And the girl told him to wear fishnets, and he wore the fishnets.
- [16:04]
Carlos Miller
Oh, so we. Kinky panties. He had pink panties on.
- [16:11]
Edgar Berlanga
But he said he was getting high, and it was just. He don't know what was happening. He just woke up. Pictures on the Internet.
- [16:16]
Carlos Miller
Oh, he denied it. You know that movie Hangover? Yes, like some hangover shit.
- [16:19]
Charlemagne tha God
Okay, he denied it at first, and then.
- [16:22]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah, but once somebody admitted it and they don't care, like, yeah, use it against him.
- [16:26]
Carlos Miller
And.
- [16:27]
DJ Envy
Was you always flashy? Your swag is always flashy.
- [16:30]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, always. Always. You know, like, my father did seven. Seven. He did seven years. So, like, two weeks after I was born, he went to prison. You know, I'm saying. So he came home when I was seven, almost eight. And then just. I was, you know, born and raised in prod. You know, I'm saying, yeah, Douglas projects and. And 102nd at Columbus. You know, my family. My. My mom's side of her family been living there for, like. Like 45 years, I'm saying. And then the Bronx. I was in Hunts Point. I was in Webster Projects, Les Bruges Houses. You know what I'm saying, Lois? So, you know, I grew up around that. That's why I tell everybody I grew up around that. Looking out the window and seeing all the outside, you know, like, selling drugs and. And, you know, big cars, big chains. And I used to see. I used to be on. On tv, watching MTV and looking at Fat Joe all the time. You know what I'm saying? I used to just watch Fat Joe. That's why. All changed up, juked up. And so he was always. I always had that, you know what I'm saying?
- [17:26]
Edgar Berlanga
Just without the diamonds.
- [17:27]
Carlos Miller
My father came home at 7. When I was 7, he came home and I already knew this, like, the. Like, it was already. It was winter time. He took me to Knickerbocker and. And went to Jimmy Jazz, right where we went. Jimmy Jazz went to Jimmy Jazz. And we went. And it was another store next to it, but it was like, another store that was like. Has some, like. Like, clothes for kids. And he was trying to take me in that store. And I'm like, pop, I'm not going in. Nah, Pop. I was like, yo, I want to go in there. So we walk. He's like, prices, Damn, man. So we go inside, Jimmy Jazz. And it's the fur coat, a black fur coat. And I'm like, pops, I want that one right there. He was like, damn. He called my mom, yo, man, what you. What are you teaching this guy, man? This guy, I'm trying to take him, you know, he tried to take me to get the cheap clothes. I don't want the cheap clothes, I.
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It's DJ Envy.
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Charlemagne tha God
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DJ Envy
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Angela Yee
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- [21:52]
Edgar Berlanga
Hey fam.
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- [22:46]
Carlos Miller
So I always been like that.
- [22:47]
Edgar Berlanga
So you. Same way with your son. Like, you make sure he's.
- [22:50]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, my son is always fly. Yeah, I'll make sure he's always, you know, he got his little spider man, you know, I don't try to overdo it, you know, He's a kid. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I always make sure, you know, he got his little chain on, you know what I'm saying? He got all his old swag, you know.
- [23:03]
DJ Envy
You want a box?
- [23:04]
Carlos Miller
I think so, yeah. Yeah, I think he's gonna buy. I think he's gonna be a boxer.
- [23:07]
Edgar Berlanga
He a little aggressive.
- [23:08]
Carlos Miller
He's gonna be a boxer. He gonna be a rapper, actor. I don't know.
- [23:11]
DJ Envy
He definitely got to be aggressive.
- [23:13]
Edgar Berlanga
Look who's father.
- [23:14]
DJ Envy
If you talk like that in the.
- [23:15]
Edgar Berlanga
House, I already would you want him to box, though?
- [23:18]
Carlos Miller
Would you want him to? Nah, not for real for. Nah. Unless he wants to. Like, he crying to me, like, I want to be a boxer, dad, then it's all right. Cool. You know what I'm saying? But I feel like if I gotta force him, if I really got it. But no, if he. He got talent, if I like, put him in, he kids up.
- [23:36]
Charlemagne tha God
I think Charlotte was talking about more for the injuries.
- [23:39]
Carlos Miller
Boxing is hard, bro. This. I think I'm the only one that's gonna be doing this, bro. This for how long, though?
- [23:45]
Edgar Berlanga
I mean, what's the goal? What's the. What's the quota? What do you want to achieve? How much money you want to make before you say, all right, I want to make plus 100 plus millions.
- [23:54]
Carlos Miller
Yeah.
- [23:54]
Edgar Berlanga
How long is going to take you to get to that?
- [23:56]
Carlos Miller
Soon? At least. At least another three years, you know what I'm saying? But I got to get these big fights, you know, And I want to make. I want to make legacy. I want to do legacy. I want to become a champ and I just want to. I want to be the king, you know what I'm saying? I want to be the king of the 168 at least. I gotta conquer that right there. Once I conquer that and I can move up.
- [24:13]
Angela Yee
I saw you say you wanted to fight two heavyweight fights too.
- [24:16]
Carlos Miller
Yeah. Yeah. Not because I'd Be I spot heavyweights before, you know what I'm saying?
- [24:20]
Edgar Berlanga
Like you were calling out Anthony Joshua for a second. Didn't you call on Anthony? You still want to fight Anthony Joshua?
- [24:25]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, I swear to God.
- [24:27]
Edgar Berlanga
Yo, what you think about that, y'?
- [24:28]
Carlos Miller
All?
- [24:28]
Edgar Berlanga
Him and Anthony Joshua.
- [24:31]
Angela Yee
I don't think that's smart.
- [24:32]
Carlos Miller
What?
- [24:33]
Angela Yee
I don't think that's smart.
- [24:34]
Carlos Miller
I was dropping them and Spawn. So I'm like, wait, these they big. And I'm telling, you know, pros that's coming at me throwing and I'm moving, not Joshua.
- [24:44]
Angela Yee
The same thing you said about Canelo and Crawford. I feel it would be the same thing. Like Anthony Joshua's used to that weight and fighting at that weight and being strong and fast at that weight.
- [24:52]
Carlos Miller
I just take mass steroids. I just do mash steroids.
- [24:59]
DJ Envy
He'd be trolling, like would you just.
- [25:02]
Angela Yee
Jump right the heavyweight or would you.
- [25:03]
Carlos Miller
You know, do probably do like, like light heavyweight saying, cuz there's good fights, you know, you got B still there. You got Benavidez. You know, you got all these guys that.
- [25:13]
Edgar Berlanga
So you would fight Benavidez? I mean, because that's obviously he was at 168. He moved up. But if you conquer 168, you. You would want to fight Benavidez, bro.
- [25:21]
Carlos Miller
He. You know what I'm saying? His father, he be his father be thinking that just so you know what.
- [25:25]
Edgar Berlanga
I'm saying, we not nobody scared of Benavidez.
- [25:29]
Carlos Miller
N. Nobody's scared of him, bro. We boxing, bro. You know what I'm saying?
- [25:34]
DJ Envy
What do you feel like you're the face of New York boxing?
- [25:36]
Carlos Miller
100 and I don't need a title. I don't give a you right now in this day and like in this day and age in boxing, you don't need a title to be that dude, you know what I'm saying? You see, it's all about ticket sales. How many. You know what I'm saying? How. How you selling, how you marketing yourself, you know what I'm saying? And, and then especially when you go in the ring, then you got to perform at when it's all said and done. But right now, boxing and you know, right now it's not really. You don't really need a title. How many guys right now that is world champions that nobody don't know.
- [26:04]
Edgar Berlanga
It's more of a star driven sport. How do you feel about Turkey? His Excellency Turkey Alik picking Shiraz in this fight? So like, even though you're the main event this year, City. But the. The man funding all this saying, you're going to lose.
- [26:18]
Carlos Miller
I was. I had a. A meeting when I saw.
- [26:19]
Edgar Berlanga
I saw the pictures. How's he treating you? How's the relationship?
- [26:22]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, he. You know what it is? He loves boxing, bro. So he be trolling, you know what I'm saying?
- [26:26]
Edgar Berlanga
Right, right.
- [26:27]
Carlos Miller
You see what he said about Shakoi gonna make this ring, String?
- [26:30]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah. Let's say that's not real.
- [26:31]
Carlos Miller
No, no, no.
- [26:33]
Angela Yee
I thought that the fight go on, the ring was gonna shrink. I'm like, how the they gonna do that shit? Sound dope.
- [26:40]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah, it does, but it's not realistic. He was sure. I mean, the commission would never allow that, like, because the fight I ready.
- [26:46]
Angela Yee
I was like, oh, that shit sounds dope.
- [26:47]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah, it's like a $20 million ring.
- [26:50]
Carlos Miller
That would be crazy. Get smaller. That's crazy. Crazy.
- [26:53]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah.
- [26:53]
Carlos Miller
No, but he. I'm not gonna lie. Turkey's crazy. Like, he really loved boxing.
- [26:57]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah. Like, he probably would do that if he could.
- [26:59]
Carlos Miller
No, no, no. Yeah, yeah. He put. He's so crazy, he'll probably put a boxing fight in the air type, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know. You know those, those, those. Those propellers. You know how you eat. You know how you eat on. On like when you go to Dubai.
- [27:15]
Charlemagne tha God
And the restaurants in the sky.
- [27:16]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah.
- [27:17]
Carlos Miller
He's so crazy. He'll. He'll around and do like a. A boxing match in the air type, you know what I'm saying?
- [27:22]
Edgar Berlanga
Oh, nah, that's too.
- [27:24]
Angela Yee
I need a 100 for that. You should do that.
- [27:27]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah, yeah. That's for real. But he. But he thinks outside the box like that, you know, he wants to have a fight in. What's the prison in.
- [27:33]
Carlos Miller
In California. Yeah.
- [27:35]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah. What's the famous prison?
- [27:37]
Charlemagne tha God
Alcatraz.
- [27:38]
Edgar Berlanga
Alcatraz. Alcatraz.
- [27:40]
Carlos Miller
The fighters up like. Like inmates and with shotguns on. Yeah.
- [27:45]
Charlemagne tha God
He got too much money. That's too much.
- [27:47]
Angela Yee
Need all of that, though.
- [27:48]
Carlos Miller
I'm a fan.
- [27:49]
Charlemagne tha God
I don't know.
- [27:50]
Carlos Miller
I love boxing.
- [27:51]
Edgar Berlanga
I mean, something, to be honest with you. The fight in Times Square, the fact that it was in Times Square created a lot of buzz for that fight.
- [27:58]
Angela Yee
I didn't love it.
- [27:58]
Edgar Berlanga
No, you might not love the fight, but I'm talking about the lead up. It was like, wow, they shut down Times Square. Those things make.
- [28:06]
Carlos Miller
And I wanna. And I wanna. And I wanna nip this on the butt because people were trying to say that he blocked. You know how they put the covers up.
- [28:14]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah.
- [28:14]
Carlos Miller
That he tried to put the Covers up so nobody could see from the outside. And that's not. That's not.
- [28:19]
Edgar Berlanga
No, no.
- [28:20]
Carlos Miller
Case.
- [28:20]
Edgar Berlanga
That wasn't.
- [28:21]
Carlos Miller
He didn't want that. He wanted the people on the outside to watch the fight. Across the street, you could still watch the fight. Just the gate is up. But, you know, he put the plastic over.
- [28:31]
Angela Yee
They, they.
- [28:32]
Carlos Miller
But the police made him put the plastic over because they said he's going to cause too much chaos with the cars. You know, I'm saying if the cars are driving by and they'll be slowing down, they're going to be slowing down to try to watch the fight. You know what I'm saying? It's going to create craziness.
- [28:43]
Edgar Berlanga
So he wanted.
- [28:44]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, he won. He wanted everybody see, you know what I' he made it limited because it wasn't that much of a big of a space, you know, so it was only, what, 300 people. But he told. He said he didn't want that, that. That plastic over, you know, I'm saying.
- [28:57]
Edgar Berlanga
And he's great for the sport.
- [28:59]
Angela Yee
I thought the fight this weekend was supposed to be in Central park, wasn't.
- [29:02]
Edgar Berlanga
It at one point, but now it's at tennis stadium.
- [29:05]
Carlos Miller
He was. He was trying to do the Central park and they put like a concert right after.
- [29:10]
Angela Yee
Wow.
- [29:10]
Carlos Miller
Like, so after we done fighting, like, everybody just walk over and walk over to the. The stage and watch all the rappers just perform, and you know what I'm saying? But he. I with him. You know what I'm saying? After, after that combo that I had with him, you know what I'm saying? I was like, yo, I was telling who's pulling up to the fight, and I was like, yo, you know, I got. I said, you know, you know, my people like users. When my use with C. You was with Sean Pe. Those are my p. My family. He's like, yeah, yeah, man, I want to get into music, too. I said, oh, my God.
- [29:36]
Angela Yee
Boxing need all them gimmicks, though.
- [29:38]
Carlos Miller
You think is different, Is it? I feel like it's just new. He's bringing something new with the box, and I feel like he's trying to bring that. That madness that, that the UFC has when they be bugging out in press conferences. And. And he likes that built up. Like, he loves that. He. He throws off that. Like, he likes all that pushing if you swing and hit somebody, like, he don't give a right. He's like, yo, I want that. He likes that. He needs that.
- [30:04]
Edgar Berlanga
Those rivals viral moments sometimes make a fight. You know what I'm Saying, that's why.
- [30:09]
Carlos Miller
Now I'm understanding. That's why I feel like he put Dana White as the. As the.
- [30:14]
Edgar Berlanga
He's promoting for the Bud Crawford, which is weird.
- [30:16]
Carlos Miller
That's his first. But I know he with Dana White, cuz, you know, that UFC is crazy. Them dudes be on all types of. They be on types of drugs and they bugged out.
- [30:27]
Edgar Berlanga
What do you want to do? What do you want to do after boxing?
- [30:31]
Carlos Miller
I want to be an actor.
- [30:32]
Edgar Berlanga
Oh, yeah? Taking classes?
- [30:36]
Carlos Miller
I haven't took a class yet, but I got act.
- [30:39]
Edgar Berlanga
Yeah.
- [30:39]
Carlos Miller
I mean, North Rock. I act.
- [30:41]
Edgar Berlanga
I mean, how do you. How do you know that? Have you ever done anything. A scene. I mean, gotta do a scene.
- [30:46]
Charlemagne tha God
Gotta go.
- [30:47]
Edgar Berlanga
No, you do a scene out of a movie, like, give us your shield. Show us your acting skills.
- [30:52]
Carlos Miller
All right, so you want me to be, like, a gangster?
- [30:55]
Edgar Berlanga
She's an actress.
- [30:55]
Angela Yee
She's an actress.
- [30:56]
Edgar Berlanga
So go back and forth with Hoenna.
- [30:57]
Angela Yee
Okay. Platinum collard greens, let's go.
- [30:59]
Carlos Miller
What?
- [31:01]
DJ Envy
And collard greens.
- [31:04]
Charlemagne tha God
Yo, you gave us some drugs. She didn't give you back the drugs, and now you caught her.
- [31:07]
Carlos Miller
Go.
- [31:08]
Angela Yee
Action.
- [31:08]
Carlos Miller
Wait, wait. Say it again. No, no, no.
- [31:10]
DJ Envy
All right, look. So I'm interrogating you. You caught a body. I'm interrogating. We on power. Let's just say that this is power.
- [31:16]
Carlos Miller
Yeah. You're a cop.
- [31:17]
DJ Envy
I'm a cop. Where was the gun?
- [31:21]
Carlos Miller
I ain't snitching. I didn't have a gun.
- [31:23]
DJ Envy
You might as well tell me we already got it.
- [31:25]
Carlos Miller
I don't have a gun. I don't know what you're talking about. You gonna arrest me, though?
- [31:29]
DJ Envy
How did the guy end up dead?
- [31:31]
Carlos Miller
I don't know. You gonna arrest me?
- [31:33]
DJ Envy
You gonna fucking sit here and play some games with me? And I already know. We already got you.
- [31:37]
Carlos Miller
I know. We in the interrogation room. Are you gonna arrest me? Just arrest me. Cause I could get my lawyer.
- [31:42]
DJ Envy
He all right.
- [31:45]
Angela Yee
I feel like he's been in this situation before. Too easy.
- [31:54]
Carlos Miller
Shout out. Shout out to. To my brother, you know, Renee, you know, that work with 50.
- [31:58]
Edgar Berlanga
That's my boy.
- [31:59]
Carlos Miller
Renee, Renee, E. You know what I'm saying? We. We. You know, we got.
- [32:02]
Edgar Berlanga
He's acting now, too. Like, you know, he's managing Joseph, but. But he's into acting.
- [32:06]
Carlos Miller
You know, He. He. They come into the fight, you know what I'm saying, as family. And so shout out to them. We got some lined up, too. You know what I'm saying? I just told him, yo, man, I gotta focus on July 12, you know, I gotta really put my mind on that, you know what I'm saying? And cuz at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying, boxing is first. That's my bread and butter. And then, you know what I'm saying, after that, then we could get busy with some.
- [32:32]
Angela Yee
My last question when the bell rings, right? And. And let's just say things do start to get tough a little bit. What internal voice or mantra keeps you locked in on the fight?
- [32:42]
Carlos Miller
Get him, get him, get us.
- [32:47]
Angela Yee
I sound like Diddy at a free.
- [32:52]
Carlos Miller
That's my inner voice.
- [32:53]
Angela Yee
Okay, okay.
- [32:56]
Carlos Miller
You're not unicorn. And that's like my line, it's like, you know what I'm saying?
- [33:05]
DJ Envy
Like that, like that, like that monster.
- [33:09]
Carlos Miller
Inside your head, you know what I'm saying?
- [33:10]
Edgar Berlanga
So that's. This fight is not going the distance.
- [33:13]
Carlos Miller
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
- [33:15]
Edgar Berlanga
Can we get a prediction? Like a round prediction or something like that?
- [33:19]
Carlos Miller
I want to beat this out this bro. Like I want, I want to stomp on him like Jesus Christ, you know what I'm saying? Like I wanna.
- [33:25]
Edgar Berlanga
But you want to stop him. You don't want it to go to distance. Like you would prefer to stop us off.
- [33:30]
Carlos Miller
Thousand percent. Yeah, we gonna fight for sure. We gonna be getting it on for sure. What's.
- [33:35]
Charlemagne tha God
What's the boxer that was going at.
- [33:36]
Angela Yee
Him and then went at Fat Joe, Khalil Plant. Caleb, Caleb, Caleb, Caleb, Caleb playing.
- [33:41]
Carlos Miller
Y' all squash him. He was on here too.
- [33:47]
Edgar Berlanga
No, no, you. What happened? What? He don't remember.
- [33:50]
Charlemagne tha God
He don't remember Caleb.
- [33:54]
Carlos Miller
He was just.
- [33:55]
Edgar Berlanga
Giving his side of the story when y' all ran into each other in Vegas, how you went back and forth.
- [33:58]
Charlemagne tha God
Yeah, with Fat Joe.
- [34:02]
Edgar Berlanga
Fat Joe was with.
- [34:05]
Carlos Miller
They was going to beat him up. He was with. He was with Pistol. He was all the whole kr. It was gonna beat him up.
- [34:11]
Angela Yee
Oh yeah, that wouldn't be.
- [34:12]
Carlos Miller
They was gonna beat him up.
- [34:13]
Angela Yee
Yeah, that wouldn't be.
- [34:13]
Carlos Miller
All that he's talking is Cap all that he's talking. They was gonna beat him up, you know what I'm saying? Because Joe was with. Was with Loretta and his. His daughter, you know what I'm saying? And he, he went and said that dumb.
- [34:25]
Edgar Berlanga
What did he say? He claims that he never said any of that.
- [34:28]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, he said something. He said. I forgot what he said. But Joe always talking about. Joe keeps speaking about this. Yeah, it's certain. Then Pistol Pete was like, yeah, like the shot. You know what I'm saying? Like Pete was like, yeah, we was right there. Like we was about to stomp this out, you know what I'm saying?
- [34:43]
Edgar Berlanga
And that's another fight on your. On your radar.
- [34:46]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, I still want that fight. Even though he got beat up, but.
- [34:48]
Edgar Berlanga
You still won't fight.
- [34:49]
Carlos Miller
I don't know. I think. I think he didn't take that. I think. I think he didn't take that guy like, serious, you know what I'm saying? Because that dude, he felt like he probably came up from 154. Little. Little dude, you know, little Mexican dude, like five feet, you know what I'm saying? Like, he. Look at this dude. Like this dude.
- [35:04]
Angela Yee
You can never sleep on a Mexican.
- [35:05]
Carlos Miller
That's what I'm saying. He felt like probably he. He fought. He fought Benavidez, he fought Canelo, he fought these guys. You know what I'm saying? He's like this dude. I feel like he really slept on.
- [35:14]
Angela Yee
Him for real, for how Mexicans is so tough you can't sleep on.
- [35:17]
Carlos Miller
No, the dude was like 15 and 1. Like he got. Oh, 15 and 2 or something. He got. He got like one of his loss. He got knocked out by dude at 154. I'm telling you, bro, fight us. But like with me, I don't take nobody. Like, you see my last fight, they could say whatever they want. Have rolls and he had, you know those rolls. What's those rose called? Yeah, like them.
- [35:41]
Angela Yee
Oh, the. The bread rolls.
- [35:47]
Carlos Miller
No, no, no. The dude off my last fight, they. It went viral.
- [35:51]
Edgar Berlanga
Oh, yeah, yeah. The knockout. Yeah, yeah.
- [35:53]
Carlos Miller
But son is. He's nobody. Was not nobod. I put my bank. Nobody was knocking him out first round.
- [36:00]
Edgar Berlanga
People were judging him because the way he looked.
- [36:01]
Carlos Miller
But he looked like he work in a bakery, you know what I'm saying? Like, he eat mad bread. Like his shit hanging over. Like if he's having sex, like, he probably had to like lift his shit up.
- [36:11]
Edgar Berlanga
Jesus.
- [36:12]
DJ Envy
Like muffin T. I gotta ask you.
- [36:14]
Edgar Berlanga
About Shakur before we leave. Obviously, that's your man. He really wants a Tank fighter. I know Tank gotta get the roach fight back or whatever that. But if Tank did fight Shakur, like, how does that fight play out? Real quick, I need your prediction. I never asked you.
- [36:27]
Carlos Miller
It's gonna be a good fight, you.
- [36:29]
Edgar Berlanga
Know, because you don't like Tank too much either.
- [36:32]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, but I'm already past.
- [36:33]
Edgar Berlanga
Are you passed that?
- [36:34]
Carlos Miller
Yeah. Cool. I don't care about that. You know, I'm saying it was more. It's more outside of boxing. What. What happened with the Tank. But I'm already past That I ain't. You know I'm saying, like, we're not even the same way. So the. That's 135, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm once. I'm 168.
- [36:49]
Edgar Berlanga
So it's like you feel Shakur beats him.
- [36:52]
Carlos Miller
Yeah, I think it's gonna be. It's gonna be a tough fight. They. So in order for Shakur to be on, Shakur got to be on his A game, you know what I'm saying?
- [37:00]
Edgar Berlanga
Right?
- [37:01]
Carlos Miller
Because at the end of the day, Tank, you know, Tank gonna come, you know, and Tank is the.
- [37:04]
Edgar Berlanga
Tank is nice and he can push.
- [37:06]
Carlos Miller
Yeah. It's just, you know, this with Lamont, shout out to Lamar Roach, you know what I'm saying? That's my brother right there. Lamont's my brother, you know what I'm saying? Like, his family, his pops, and they humble people, man.
- [37:16]
Edgar Berlanga
She's a big Tank fan.
- [37:25]
Carlos Miller
But that was a good fight, though. That was a good fight, bro. And Rose, that was a great fight.
- [37:32]
Angela Yee
Who you got for the rematch?
- [37:33]
Carlos Miller
I was going crazy on Tank. I was like. I was going crazy. Like, flat hub posted it up, but I'm. I'm gonna keep it a buck. No, I was wrong.
- [37:43]
DJ Envy
He was going crazy on him.
- [37:45]
Carlos Miller
Like, I was going crazy because, like, Ramon was doing his thing, so. Yeah, but besides that, besides me doing that, I was. I was enjoying it. Like, that was entertaining. That shit was a good, great fucking fight, bro.
- [37:55]
Edgar Berlanga
Great fight.
- [37:56]
Angela Yee
Who you got for the rematch?
- [37:57]
Carlos Miller
Lamont. Yeah, I'm going for, you know what I'm saying? That's my brother, you know what I'm saying? And I think it's his time, you know what I'm saying? He step up, you know what I'm saying, And do what he do.
- [38:06]
Edgar Berlanga
He showed improve for sure.
- [38:07]
Carlos Miller
Nah. Yeah, for sure.
- [38:08]
Charlemagne tha God
Well, the fight is this weekend, July 12th. Get your tickets, make sure you order it online. It's going to be in Queens, so head out there. We appreciate you for joining us.
- [38:16]
Carlos Miller
Yes, sir. Louis Armstrong Stadium, man.
- [38:18]
Charlemagne tha God
Edgar Balonga. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Angela Yee
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
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Joseph Reeves
The Breakfast Club.
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- [39:30]
Matt Rogers
Ding dong Las culturistas calling from YouTube. You heard that right. Las Culturistas now has its own YouTube channel.
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Bowen Yang
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- [39:53]
Bowen Yang
Culturistas calling from YouTube. In our new podcast, Everybody's Business, we talk about the business news that concerns everybody.
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Carlos Miller
From Bloomberg Business Week, I'm Stacey Vanek Smith.
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Bowen Yang
And I'm Max Chavkin.
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Carlos Miller
Each week we unpack what is happening.
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Charlemagne tha God
On Main street and Wall Street.
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Carlos Miller
WrestleMania has taken over the US economy.
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Bowen Yang
Poetry that executives write on LinkedIn.
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Carlos Miller
A little actual magic in our underrated.
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Charlemagne tha God
Story of the week single greatest marketing campaign the music business has ever seen.
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Carlos Miller
I decided to ask people how they felt about the penny going away. Listen to everybody's business wherever you get your podcasts.
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DJ Envy
This is an iHeart podcast.