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Podcast Host / Narrator
This is an I Heart podcast.
Hari Kundabolu
On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.
Dr. Priyanka Wali
I'm Dr. Priyanka Wali, a double board certified physician.
Hari Kundabolu
And I'm Hari Kundabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am and on our show we're talking about health in a different way. Like our episode where we look at.
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.
Hari Kundabolu
How preventable is type 2?
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Extremely. Listen to Health Stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Maggie Freeling
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
G Herbo
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Maggie Freeling
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film. Molly. I'm Molly Lambert and I'll be your tour guide on a wild trip through adult films.
G Herbo
We get paid more than the men. We call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our life.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Listen to Gentle world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Narrator / Reporter
In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin and into New York from Asia.
G Herbo
Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell? Basically your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.
Hari Kundabolu
All you gotta do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it.
G Herbo
She was very upset, crying.
Hari Kundabolu
Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw.
G Herbo
The flash of light.
Narrator / Reporter
Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcasts.
Podcast Host / Narrator
You know the shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryan and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can Handle. And, you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us. Each and every Monday, listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
G Herbo
Hold up. Every day, I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. Y' all finished or y' all done?
DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess.
G Herbo
Hilarious.
DJ Envy
Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
Charlemagne Tha God
Yes, sir.
DJ Envy
We got G herbo. Welcome. And congratulations, man. The number one record a couple of weeks ago. Congrats, man.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Thank you.
G Herbo
Thank you, brother.
Podcast Host / Narrator
How are you?
G Herbo
I'm good.
Podcast Host / Narrator
I'm good.
G Herbo
I'm glad to be here.
Podcast Host / Narrator
That's what's up.
DJ Envy
How's it feel? Number one record?
G Herbo
It feel good. I'm not gonna lie. It feel great. It feel great. I just be trying to, like, stay in the moment. For real.
DJ Envy
For real.
G Herbo
Just keep it, like, up, you know, like, when you got those type of moments, you just trying to figure out, like, all right, well, I. Me, personally, like, I gotta figure out what's the next best thing, like, what do I do next from that? Like, I try to live in the moment and grasp up that energy, but just keep it going. Like, I'm not trying to catch another number one. I'm just trying to keep it going.
DJ Envy
Did you expect that to be the record? Because it's not your typical.
G Herbo
Of course it was just you just spitting. Nah, hell no. For sure. I was just. Literally, I. I can't say it enough. It was just me just having fun in the studio. I was in New York and was in the studio. Me, Southside Smack, and, you know, Southside. Like, I really. I be having to give a lot of credit to Big Bro because he one of the only people that could tell me, like, rap on this. Just rap on this and figure it out. Like, just rap. And that's what I did. And that. That changed my life.
Podcast Host / Narrator
On there.
G Herbo
He was talking your. On there.
Charlemagne Tha God
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Who picked it as a single, like. Or was it just. I'm just gonna release and see what happened. And it just took off, like, how.
G Herbo
That's what I'm saying. That's why, like, as artists, you gotta, like, really just bet on yourself. For real. For real. Because I was in a. In a. A mode of just trying to do music and see what the streets connected to. I didn't even like, that song came out in December on my app. I got an app on my own app, like, where I just Put out music, material, content. All this is just for the people who really support me. Like, you know, I'm saying my fans, they know about the G herbo app. I put it out on my app on a project that I was just recording all samples to. Like I did a project with all samples and it couldn't even go on Apple Music. It couldn't go on dsps, you know what I'm saying? Like I put it out on the app in December and the label put it out on DSPS in like March, April. So it's like you gotta just trash it and just see what the streets with.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Congratulations on your app.
G Herbo
I know you had it, I appreciate it.
Charlemagne Tha God
Has it changed the bag? Has that single changed your bag?
G Herbo
Absolutely.
Charlemagne Tha God
Because see I'd be thinking that, you know, a lot of people be fronting on like the power of radio and having a big radio record speak to.
G Herbo
That man for sure. And you gotta put money in radio though. Like, you gotta like, you know what I'm saying? What you put in it, come out or go out on the wash, come out in the rinse, whatever that saying is. You see what I'm saying? So like I always been like, I knew because I've been independent this whole time. So I know about like analytics, I know about like residuals. I know what like one record could really change your life.
Podcast Host / Narrator
That's right.
G Herbo
You know what I'm saying? Like, and I finally caught that record, like that life changing record. So yeah, the bag been crazy since.
Charlemagne Tha God
The royalties from radio are better than the screaming.
G Herbo
Yeah, absolutely. For sure. And it's like once you, once you get a song that really go radio, it's like it just like it just change everything. For real, for real.
DJ Envy
Changes the places you actually perform.
G Herbo
Yeah, for sure. Right, exactly. Like you could put, you could put, you put money in radio for sure for it to do what it's supposed to do. But just like even like it's a difference between like putting something in radio for just get on the radio for to get like rhythmic play playlist, you know what I'm saying? Like all of that is just a big super difference like I be talking to like make all the time and just like once you get a record like I'm not even talking about went legit, like it's certain records that like the format where you know, it could go radio. You feel what I'm saying? Like I feel like every artist, all you need is like one radio record a year. Just one. Like you feel what I'm saying?
DJ Envy
It ain't that easy to get one record.
G Herbo
It's not easy at all. But like, you know, Hit maker, that's my big brother. Like, he. He the God of this. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Like, he know the whole formula. He do it like, and that's why he's so rich like that nigga, rich as shit. Because he own radio every year at least once figured it out, right? For sure.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Why Lil Herb?
G Herbo
Wild Little Herb. I was just trying to, like, tap into, like, that old hunger. Like my old self. And when I be rapping good and shit, like, I be reading the comments and shit, sometime my fans be like, oh, that ain't. That ain't G Herbal. That's Lil Herb. You know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like that was like one of my best eras of rap. Like, I always been able to rap. I'm an mc, so it's like I don't care if I'm not even all the way tapped into, like, my confidence and all of that shit. I'm always gonna be able to rap good, you feel me? But, like, once you really focus on straight rap, yeah, it's different. And that's what I was trying to do. So that's why I went and like, named my album Lil Herb. Like, I was going to, like, listen to old interviews, listen to old music videos. I mean, watch old music videos, listen to old songs and shit like that. And like, I was just trying to find, like a higher, like, level of rap for myself.
Narrator / Reporter
Yeah.
G Herbo
You know what I'm saying? Like, and I say this all the time. Like you could really get caught up in what's in front of you. Like, I always been the type of person, like, I say this a lot. A lot of rooms that I was in, I wasn't really in the rooms, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm thinking about, like, my past. Yeah. I'm thinking about what I got to do when I get out the room. Like, I'm just saying, what's up? Like, there's certain conversations that I really couldn't have because my mind is all over the place. You feel me? Like, so, like, in this, like, era where I am mentally, I was just trying to, like, find that old hunger that made me enjoy what I have now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, like, that's. That's why I really named my project Little Herb. Because, like, you like, on a day to day, I'm 30 years old. I've been rapping since I was like, 16. For real, for real. Like, you feel me? And I was trying to figure out, like, damn, like, like, all the steps that it took me to get here. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I forgot a lot. I'm not gonna lie. It's a lot of that I did that I forgot. So it's like I wanted to make myself remember, so I had to, like, go back in and, like, tap in with my old self. For real.
Charlemagne Tha God
I heard you say Little Herb is a full circle moment, and it's a return to the fundamentals. But you closing the chapter on the little herb area, what does. What does closing that chapter actually look like?
G Herbo
Closing that chapter is like, for real. Just letting go. Like, it's a lot of that. I held on to that I just don't need no more. Like, for real, for real. Like the streets.
Charlemagne Tha God
That therapy talk right there, boy.
G Herbo
Yeah. Just letting go. For real, for real. And it is. It is definitely therapy that help me. It's like a lot of that you hold on to. You just, like, just let it go. Just let it go and just let it find you. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, for real. Like, I was one of them people that just, like, my heart so big, and I feel like people knew that. Like, people knew that. Like, they. They grabbed me and I'm grabbing them back. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I'm holding on to that type of shit. It's like, that's just letting that chapter go. Like, I should. Like. And people been saying this to me for years, and I've been knowing it, but I never really acted on it. Like, I shouldn't focus on nothing but music and my family and, like, God, like, that's the only thing that I should wake up and care about. I shouldn't really give a. About how somebody else eat or how somebody else get to work or get to sleep or any of that. And I worried about that for years. Like, let's be closing that chapter. Like, I'm gonna tap into this, tell my story, and just let go or let go and let God. For real, for real and that. Go for everything and everybody. And it's a whole nother chapter opening for me. Because everything that got me here, I don't. I don't even really have it no more. For real, for real. All my friends did. I'm finna be a real 100% independent artist. I don't got no label, no production company. I'm 100% a real new person and a new artist. So it's like I just wanna. Just tap into this shit, do what I need to do. And I'm already doing it for real, but just like letting go for real. I don't wanna have no attachments other than family, no bullshit.
Charlemagne Tha God
How did you balance revisiting those old TR with the grown man? You are now like, you, you 30, so you, you're a whole new level of life. You don't shift to the phase. Not that kid, 19 year old kid no more.
G Herbo
Yeah, no, for sure. My homie, my, one of my best friends, he, he used to say this like, he only probably like eight months older than me. He like, bro, once you touch 30, you just gonna start thinking. He used to tell me like, I can't wait till you turn 30. Like he turned 30. He like, I can't wait till you turn 30, right? Because it's just like, it's like a light switch. Like, just. You know what I'm saying? Just tap in for you and it's for, for me, for real. Like, I promise, I'm like, I don't, I don't be wanting to sound like cliche or corny or none of this type of shit, but like, my girl is like my toughest critic. Like, she won the people who really just like stay on me. Like, she tell me a lot of that I know and I don't act on, I'm saying where it's just coming to, like my business around me. You feel what I'm saying? Like all of that, you feel me? Like, and like to kind of like tap into the.
Charlemagne Tha God
The.
G Herbo
What you were saying, the question is like, you just gotta, you just gotta really, like, just go with your gut, your intuition. You feel what I'm saying? Like a lot of times niggas question theyself and feel like, all right, but you know, you might know the answer, you might know right from wrong and not do it because you question how it's gone, like affect other people. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and I'm one of them type of people. But like, I'm one of the type of people that think about how it's going to affect other people. And like, I was saying that like, because my girl, she like, she don't give a. Like she don't care. And you need that. Like, you need it because like, I really got to stop caring. For real, for real. Like, I feel like I care too much and I like doing certain or not doing certain things because I'm figuring, I'm feeling like it's Going to affect people in a negative way or whatever way it is. You know what I'm saying? It's like, if you got a good heart, if you just lead with what is right for you, it'll work out for sure.
DJ Envy
Now, you talk about Meek Mill changing your life, right? You said he was your inspiration. Break that down of what you seen in Milk, that Meek that made you think that you can do it, bro.
G Herbo
I literally. I just got done listening to we gonna get this money right now on my way here. Like, Meek is my favorite rapper. For real, bro. It's my big brother. And I was just with Meek last night. We just did a. So last night. We was in the studio last night, I believe. Yeah, two nights ago. Yeah, we just in the studio the other day. But Meek is just like. Like, he's like, I. I used to listen to Meek and watch Meek when he was a battle rapper, but when he really got rich and made this happen, it's like, all right. But that, like, it's different for me watching, like, Wayne and Ho, man, you know what I'm saying? Like, I couldn't. Like, I. I could relate to it, but it's like, when I grew up and me grow, I seen them rich already. Like, yeah, I seen me turn rich. Coming from the streets and going through all the. That he went through and really, like, talking about it and preaching, like, positivity and motivation, that made me feel like I just want to be like that. For real, for real. Like, that nigga really, like, helped me grow into the artist that I am today. For real, for real. Because, like, damn. Like, this Meek, like, it's not like he was an artist, and he was, like, far away. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I felt like I could grasp onto that shit and become that. Like, this nigga is a real street that became the biggest in the world. Like, he became the biggest, best rat, and he's a rap guy. Like, I love rapping. I'm an mc. So I study that first and foremost. But just a blueprint of, like, a. Like, he. He. Like, he gave you the real blueprint. Like, you get on you. You take care of. You do what you supposed to do. You take care of your family, your mother. Like, that used to make me, like, I just used to have to just give money to my mama. Just, like, thinking about that type of. You know what I'm saying? Like, I retired my mom when I was 16 years old, bro. Literally. And it put a lot of pressure on me. I told my mama stopped working when I was 16, she never worked since. I've been taking care of her, my aunties, my whole family, since I was 16. That's a lot of pressure. That's a hell of a pressure.
DJ Envy
A lot of pressure.
G Herbo
But how do you.
DJ Envy
Now, I was gonna. One more question. I was gonna say, so now you're the meek mill for a lot of these younger artists.
G Herbo
Yeah.
DJ Envy
So what do you show them? To show them that they can do it. What do you do different? So. Cause you know, you got a lot of kids watching you.
G Herbo
They wanna be herbo for sure. Like, for me it's. I just try to, like, what's the word? Like, you gotta like show them. Like, like what Meek did. For real. Like tangible. You just gotta show them. Like, I like, the thing with me that I feel like make a difference a lot is I let people see me in the physical. Like, you gotta see it, like, have conversations. Like seeing is believing. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you know, you could do this when you could actually get in front of somebody. Like me growing up, I never seen nobody that I looked up to and I wanted to be like, in front of me, talking to me, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just had to have a manpower. Like I could do it, I'm gonna do it. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and it happened for me. And when I got a certain age, like 19, 28, like those ages when I started traveling and having conversations with people that I looked up to, but like 14, 15, 16, them years really matter where. It's like, you know what I'm saying? I try to be the person where I just go back and do certain things and go touch the community and you know what I'm saying? Tell them that they could really make it. Like this is nothing for real. Like, but like. And I ain't gonna say it's nothing. Like it's, it's a task for sure. It's hard, but it's easy at the same time. All you gotta do is wake up and strive to go get it and want to do it and believe that you could do it. You just gotta have a vision, you know what I'm saying? Like, and, and when I go look at like these kids and be going to talk and have conversations, like they got the same power that I got. Like they really got something in them. They just don't think it's possible. This shit is really possible. Like they. When you wake up and all you got is this 4 block radius and your hood and the that you dealing with every day, you think that's your life, but it's like it's so much outside of that.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Yeah.
G Herbo
All you got to know is how to break that cycle. And you feel what I'm saying? Like that's, that's the thing with me. Like I feel like that's what make a difference in why people like believe in me. Because I try. I let them touch me. I let them. You know what I'm saying? Pause like, you know what I'm saying? I go see the people.
Charlemagne Tha God
I'm thinking about something now. And you made me think about it when you said you've been rapping since you was 19. Because I can remember like your first 16. 16. So I can remember your first early Breakfast Club interviews, right. But then it started getting me thinking about all of these artists we've seen from Chicago that have come through here the past 15 years. You talk about what's possible, man. You are proof that surviving is possible. Chief Keef is proof that surviving is possible.
G Herbo
Sosa, definitely.
Charlemagne Tha God
You know what I mean? People like Dirk that's locked up. People like Von that's no longer here. Plenty other artists we probably interview from Chicago.
G Herbo
Yeah, for sure.
Charlemagne Tha God
How does that feel?
G Herbo
It feel great, man. You know, and I'm gonna say this again, I'm gonna shout Mick out real quick. Cause he just told me the other day and it's like he told me this before, but him telling me the other day, it just like it feel different. It's a different feeling than him saying. It's like he like, man, when you the chosen one, it's certain things that just affect you differently, you know what I'm saying? And I learned that from the streets. Like I done bumped my head so many times and did so much and been arrested and fell off and came back or whatever the case may be. You know what I'm saying? It's like when you do certain things, God just punish you differently because you can't get away with that. You feel what I'm saying? Like you would think you would see somebody else doing it, like, oh, he did it. And you can't do that because God got a different path for you.
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Hari Kundabolu
Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician.
Hari Kundabolu
And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled Do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Talking about health in a different way.
Hari Kundabolu
It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.
Dr. Priyanka Wali
What our health says about us and the way we're living.
Hari Kundabolu
Like our episode where we look at.
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Diabetes in the United states. I mean 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.
Hari Kundabolu
How preventable is type 2?
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.
Hari Kundabolu
Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible but like you don't even know.
Dr. Priyanka Wali
You don't know.
Charlemagne Tha God
You don't know.
Dr. Priyanka Wali
It's going to be a fun ride. So so tune in.
Hari Kundabolu
Listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
G Herbo
All I know is what I've been told and that to have truth is a whole lie.
Maggie Freeling
For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
G Herbo
I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.
Maggie Freeling
We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky.
G Herbo
Housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
Maggie Freeling
My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
Hari Kundabolu
I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.
G Herbo
That y' all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.
Maggie Freeling
From Lava For Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.
G Herbo
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.
Maggie Freeling
Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
G Herbo
May 24, 1990 A pipe bomb explodes in the front seat of environmental activist Judy Berry's car.
Podcast Host / Narrator
I knew it was a bomb the second that it exploded. I felt it rip through me with just a force more powerful and terrible than anything that I could describe.
G Herbo
In season two of Rip Current, we ask who tried to kill Judy Berry and why she received death threats before the bombing.
Hari Kundabolu
She received more threats after the bombing.
G Herbo
The men and women who were hurt had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California.
Michael Lewis
They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods.
Hari Kundabolu
The timber industry, I mean it was the number one industry in the area, but more that it was the culture, it was the way of life. I think that this is a deliberate.
G Herbo
Attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Michael Lewis
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G Herbo
Surviving in Chicago, just making it out of the streets alone is a blessing. Like it's literally like I be seeing some of my homies and certain people that just like. And I understand it, other people don't get it. Like, it's certain people where you just like, you just like wash your hands with everything. I know certain n. That was real menaces in the streets that don't do nothing but just be at home with they girl and they kids now because they just want peace. Like, damn, I made it out this. I can't believe I'm still alive. Like, a lot of people never experience life to that capacity where they just grateful that they're alive, that they still here. You feel what I'm saying? And there's a lot of people when it comes to surviving, you gotta. You gotta make decisions and it gotta be calculated. And there's a lot of people that's just raised off survival where you would do anything. It's a difference. Like when you survive and you just raised off survival. Like. I'm trying to explain that with like. It's certain people where if you just like survive was your first instinct, you would do anything. That's right. Yeah. You would kill your closest friend, you a snitch. Robbed, rob, steal from your mama, your grandma and. And you gotta understand, it's like, that's just life. It's certain people who don't know nothing else, they was raised off of survival. They mother and father raised them off survival. So it's like a lot of people don't understand that. You feel what I'm saying? It's just me being here today. I try to, like, I think that's one of the reasons why, like, I probably got took advantage of so much because I understand both sides of the fence and I try to get everybody the benefit of the doubt, you know what I'm saying? Like, I try to ex. Like I try to think about putting myself in other people's shoes before I make a decision, you know what I'm saying? Like, I always. Before I do anything, I always think about the consequences, repercussions, everything. So if I do something to anybody or do anything, I thought about it so many times, I'm comfortable with how it play out. You feel what I'm saying? And like, you. Like, it's only certain people that think like that, especially in life. And coming from Chicago, you gotta think about both sides of the fence. It's certain people that think a lot and there's certain people that don't think at all. You feel me? And this, like, it's a blessing to be here for sure. For sure. Because I Seen a lot, I experienced a lot. I seen a lot of death. And I just come from one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago. Like, one of the most poverty struck in neighborhoods where it's like, I was a kid and people used to. Like, a lady walked. I think I said this before on a Breakfast Club interview when I was, when I was a shorty. Like, a lady walked up on me. I'm waiting on my mom, she coming from the laundromat. Lady walked up on me like, you got some seat? I'm like, she like, what? I'm like, what? She like, you got some seed. She asked for crack. I'm. I'm like 9 years old. I'm like 9, 10. Waiting on my mama to come in the house. She's like, you got some C. I'm like, what?
Podcast Host / Narrator
Yeah.
G Herbo
She asked me if I had cracked. Literally a kid. Three in the morning, I'm outside. Cause that's. It's nine year old selling crack. For real, for real, like, so when.
Charlemagne Tha God
Did you get some to sell?
G Herbo
Jesus. I mean, that's the statue of limitations with this. For real. Like, I done sold some crack. It's a statue of limitations for sure. But I always been one of them. Kids is like, I just wanted to get money. I knew how to get money early on, you feel what I'm saying? Like, and I, I used to do. To just get fly, like, get fresh and shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I'm blessed that I didn't have to do it for long. You feel me? Like, I ain't got, like, I started really making money off music at 16 years old. That's crazy. But I was outside 2 for sure.
Charlemagne Tha God
What was the first record you made money off was. It wasn't the Nikki record, right, was it Chicago?
G Herbo
The first record I actually like when we started making money, like after Kill came out. Yeah, Kill. Yeah.
DJ Envy
I was gonna ask with, you know, he mentioned Sosa, he mentioned Vaughn, mentioned Dirk. Have you spoke to Dirk?
G Herbo
Yeah, yeah, I spoke to. I spoke to Smirk, talked to Dirk probably like a month, a month or two ago.
DJ Envy
How's he doing?
G Herbo
Yeah, he doing good for sure. Like, mentally. And that's the thing about Smurt. If you know him, you know he good. Like, that is really a real discipline mentally strong. For real, for real. Like this just like, he just like this, just a part of his journey. Like, he know he coming from under this. We all know he coming from under this. You know what I'm saying? But like, he's, he, he one of them, type of like, he never gonna lose himself. All he doing is praying, talking to his family, like, connecting with God, you know what I'm saying? Like, shit like that. And, yeah, Smirk, definitely. Good. I spoke to him. I sent them, like, a little snippet of music that I'm putting out. And the music that I like was saying his name in shit like that. You feel what I'm saying? Like, it's my brother. Yeah, pretty smirk.
Podcast Host / Narrator
So for Lil Herb, right?
G Herbo
Do you.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Are you getting personal? Like, are we hearing the pain? Because you have been through a lot. You said you lost your friends and then God rest your dad, so, you know what I'm saying? You've been through a lot of. Yeah, so are we getting the personal? We getting the pain?
G Herbo
Definitely. I'm speaking about, like, everything. I feel like I've. I've. I covered a lot in this album. Yeah, I'm really talking about a lot. A lot, a lot, a lot. And it make me feel good, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like rap always been a form of, like, therapy for me. You know what I'm saying? So it's, like, certain. I don't really, like, when I'm in the studio, I just rap and just, like, I got to a point in my life, in my career where I don't think about, like, how people gonna receive it, like, how the world gonna receive it, how my family gonna receive it or whatever. I just speak about whatever is on my mind and go from there, you know what I'm saying? And that's how I pick the records. You feel what I'm saying, like. And I don't. I'm saying that to say, like, I don't really realize all the shit I'm talking about and what I cover until I'm hearing it, like, on the speaker, you know what I'm saying? I just go in the studio and rap and be like, hear a week later or two weeks later, like, damn, I just said some shit. Like, yeah, no, for sure. Like, this album is. And, you know, artists say this all the time. I feel like I always feel like this. But, like, you would say, like, oh, yeah, this is one of my best projects. And, like, I'm not even gonna say this is my best project or my best body of work. I really don't feel like it's my best body of work, but I just feel like it's my best era of rap. I feel like I'm rapping better than I ever rapped before. Like, however they Receive it or whoever. Feel like this project better than this one or not. Like, I just know for a fact I'm rapping so good, and I gave it my all, for sure.
Charlemagne Tha God
How therapeutic was this album, though, in regards to your grieving process? Cause I hear you mention your brother a lot, especially on Give It All. How did that help?
G Herbo
I ain't gonna lie that I've been dealing with death since I was a kid, bro. Like, I lost. I started losing friends when I was, like, 14 years old, you know? Like, and. And I'm talking about that. I'm touching on that in my. In my alb. My project. But you gotta really, like, realize I'm 30 years old. I've been losing people I love for 15 years. Like, yeah. And still managing to wake up and make it happen and bg herbo and take pictures and smile for the fans. Like, I really done lost some of my best friends and had to go do a show that same day, you know what I'm saying? Like, my homie cap died 2015. I had to perform in front of 10,000 people. I just had to find an Emmy. A lot of people can't do that. A lot of people, like, man, I just lost my homie. Fuck this shit. I'm finna go spin. Like, I wanted to go do the show. Like, so it's like, I feel like I'm really destined for this shit. I chose my own destiny. I chose my own path. And I'm saying that, like, for me to experience all of that death and feel like I was numb to it when my little brother died, it changed my life. That was some of the worst pain that I ever felt in my life ever. Like, I could never. I never could fathom. Like, and I'm a street nigger. Like, when I wake out, when I walk out the house, I feel like I'm gonna die. Like, you know, Like, I really feel like that. And that's what get me home. You feel what I'm saying? Like, every step, every move that I take is calculated. And I never felt like he was gonna die. You know what I'm saying? Like, no. Bullshit. I never, ever think like him. Hell no. I just. I never thought he was gonna die. Every day I wake up, I really feel like I'm gonna die. I feel like somebody will do something to me, and that's just the life I live. And that's just.
DJ Envy
You still feel like that. Cause I remember last time you said.
G Herbo
You feel like that.
DJ Envy
You said you were going to therapy to help you.
G Herbo
Yeah, it helped me with ptsd. It helped me with it. But, like, nah, hell no. And I. And I'm glad that even going through therapy and, like, growing and healing the way that I've healed in my life, I'm kind of glad that I never lost that edge, for real. Because that's how I protect myself. That's how I protect my children. That's how I make sure I get back home. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and I'm not out here thugging. I ain't wilding. I ain't doing no crazy shit. Some days I leave the house and it just be just me by myself, no security, nothing. But I'm still on point. I'm still watching my back. I'm still aware of my surroundings, you feel I'm saying? So it's like, I'm glad that I never lost that edge. For real. For real. And when, like, going back to what? You know what I'm saying? What you said? Charlemagne. When my little brother died, I lost myself. I became an alcoholic. Like, a badass alcoholic. I never used to drink, bro. I used to drink a fifth of liquor every single day. Like, every day by myself. Like. And my girl was pregnant when he died. You feel me? Like, and I was like, I. I was trying to, like, not be that weak around her. You feel me? Because she. She know I didn't been through. Like, she didn't been around me. And I done lost homies, you know what I'm saying? Like, and she used to, like, say, like, snap out of it. Like, you feel me? Like, she used to, like, say, but it's like, I can't. It was just so hard for me. I really couldn't, for real. Like, I used to have to leave the house just to go cry. Like, swear to God, like, just go get in the car and just cry for an hour straight. Cause I ain't want to do that in front of her. And I felt like I should have. I should have, I should have. But I was like, I don't know. I just.
Podcast Host / Narrator
And when she say snap out of it, what does she mean?
G Herbo
Like, not snap out of the grief, Snap out of the healing, Snap out of the crashing out. Like, drinking. Drinking every day and wanting to go to the club and just feel something because I really can't feel nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was, like. That's what she used to tell me to snap out of. And it was like. It was hard, man. I ain't gonna lie.
Charlemagne Tha God
Did people in your family try to, like, blame you. Because, you know, for whatever reason, when you're the person that made it, when something bad go happen, they feel like your success and your money could have kept that person from being in that situation.
G Herbo
Nah, not really. For real. For real. Like, honestly, they didn't. And that was like the. The biggest blessing. Nobody ever blamed me. For real, for real. Like, and I had a conversation with my grandma and I said this. When I did the. This with. With Shannon Sharp, I just did an interview with him and I had a conversation with my grandma, and she made me like, she. It was one of the conversations that made me snap out of drinking and crashing out, because she like, man, I already lost him. I'm not gonna lose you to this. You feel what I'm saying? And she didn't blame me, but, like, it was like, my little brother was a real, like, good, a solid. And I know for a fact he got killed because somebody wanted to hurt me. For sure it wasn't my fault. But she like, you gotta do it the right way. Like, if you finna like, no, everybody, we grieve and we all going through the same. But you can't grieve like that. Like, you gotta go make it. Like, you gotta make this shit happen for him because it's like, he's not gonna die in vain. You feel me? Like, that was the conversation that she had with me, and that just turned me up. And one of the last conversations, I swear to God, my brother died at 11am or some. We was texting at 4 or 5 in the morning. My last conversation with him was just like, bro, I don't want to do number see you win. Like, I ain't never asked you for nothing. Like, he never really asked me for no money. Everything I ever gave him, everything we ever did was just like a bonus. Like, that nigga never asked me for no money ever. He never asked me, like, give me this, buy me this, put me on, do this, do that. And he been with me every step of the way. You feel me? He just enjoyed the fruits of my labor. That nigga literally never asked me for no money ever in life. And our last conversation was, bro, I just want to see you win. Like, I just want you to do this shit. And we was talking back and forth, and I swear to God, the next morning, that nigga died.
Charlemagne Tha God
So were you blaming yourself? That's why you was trying to escape?
G Herbo
Yeah.
Charlemagne Tha God
When did you stop blaming yourself?
G Herbo
I was definitely blaming myself because I just felt like. And I used to have these conversations with Him. Like, I used to really tell him. And that's the reason why I had to go back and think and reflect. Because I used to tell that nigga, like, bro, move to la. Like, he got kids. Just like, I got kids. I used to really tell that nigga, like, man, go back and take care of them every now and then or do whatever you need to do. Send that shit. Like, bro, just come with me, please. Like, I used to have that conversation with him like, bro, just come to la. Move to la. Like, please, just come out here. You feel what I'm saying? Like, because I know what that like, bro. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Like, I used to. I used to talk to that and be like, bro, just stop going back. For real? For real. Cause I'm. I'm thinking about that. Like, he. He. My brother was in the streets, but I feel like he was just naive to the fact, like, he really. Like. Like I said, like, I used to leave out the house and feel like I'm gonna die every day. He didn't have that mindset. He was more optimistic. He didn't think like that. You feel me? And I used to think like that, and it scared me. Like, I hate to see somebody I love walk out. I'm like, man, this could die, right? Like, you feel what I'm saying? And I was blaming myself in a way, because I just felt like I should have. Well, I could have. I ain't gonna say I should have. Like, I feel like I could have just, like, changed everybody life by force. And you can't do that. You can't feel like you could save everybody. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I stopped blaming myself when I just realized that, like, I realized, like, you, like, it was nothing I could do. For real. Like, I used to really. I used to think, like, that's why I was so fucked up. Cause I felt like even me being g herbo, being an artist, being a star, I wish I was really with him when that shit happened. Because it wouldn't have happened like that. Like, I would have put my life on the line. I would have put everything on the line 1000%. Like, the scenario and how he died. I feel like if I was in. You can't feel like that. Like, because, you know, you thinking about every scenario. Like, I'm thinking, like, if it was me in there, like, it probably wouldn't happen. Like, I would have did this this way. But you don't know, like, you know what I'm saying? God is the like, he's. He is the person who control your destiny and say how like happened. But I'm thinking about that and it's like, I really used to, like, really wish I was with him. Like, I just really feel like I wish, like, still to this day, I really wish I just would have been there, like, because I feel like it wouldn't have happened that way.
DJ Envy
But how do you stop yourself crashing out, right? Like, we've seen it with Gilly and the bad. One of the worst things about the Internet is the Internet will make you lose yourself, right? They'll trick you into taking you off the street. How did you say, you know what? I'm just gonna stay focused and grieve my brother, but still focus on my family.
G Herbo
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Cause a lot of times people be like, nah, I gotta get my. I gotta get my get back. I gotta do this, I gotta do that. And it puts you in.
G Herbo
So you were talking about, like what I said on the. The interview I just did with Gilly. It's like naturally, it's like every action deserve a reaction. And I come from a place where it's like, you gotta react. Like, certain shit you do. Like, even if you, like some shit might happen to you today and you make it home, when you get in the house, you thinking about what the people gonna say, like, what the hood gonna say. When I come back, I gotta do something. You feel what I'm saying? And I'm one of them niggas. Like, me personally, if I go to sleep, like, with it on my mind, like, if I'm thinking about it all day, I'm gonna have to do something. Like, for real, for real. Like, if that shit stay on my brain and I think about it three times, four times, five times. That's when I feel like is eligible for me to not crash out, but react. Because I'm never gonna crash out. Because if I was, I feel like the definition of when people say, like, crash out is when you react right then off emotion, that's a crash out. You feel what I'm saying? Like, whatever I do to you, if I didn't thought about this and calculated my steps and whatever consequences happen behind that, that's not a crash out. Because I'm okay with what happens. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and for me, like, how I stopped myself from doing that is like, certain is not worth it. Like, I know for sure. I know my power. I know what I could do. You know what I'm saying? It's like certain is like I'M automatically like not a person that like confrontation. I hate confrontation because I only know how to deal with it one or two ways. Somebody gotta fight or die or something, you know what I'm saying? Like I only know how to approach it that way. Like I'm not a person that could have a two hour long conversation about something and get to the bottom of it. That's just not me. So I avoid it every chance I could get. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like just, you gotta know yourself. You gotta know like you, you gotta know when people say things or try to push your buttons and just let em have it. Like I don't care about nobody saying I'm a punk or nobody saying I'm a bitch or none of that type of shit. And I used to for sure you feel what I'm saying? But it's like at this point I just think about my kids. Like literally that's the main reason why I don't do crazy shit. Cause I think about my kids. It's like my kids don't understand what I got going on. You know what I'm saying? My kids don't understand if I end up in jail, they're gonna be like, what the fuck? How my daddy go to jail? And I'm, I know what put me in jail, you know what I'm saying? Like I know what got me there, I know what I did. But a lot of times people don't explain that to their kids. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and being a father, like you got to be transparent as with your kids, like with like that, like if you make a crazy decision, a life changing decision, you got to explain that to your kids. Yeah, for real, for real. So they don't make the decision. So they understand why my dad not coming home. All that type of. So I did.
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Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell? Basically your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.
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G Herbo
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G Herbo
The flash of light.
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Podcast: The Breakfast Club
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Date: November 6, 2025
Guest: G Herbo
Main Theme: G Herbo opens up about the making of his new album ‘Lil Herb,’ healing from grief and loss, family pressures, the impact of Meek Mill, mentoring the next generation, and personal growth.
G Herbo joins The Breakfast Club to discuss his journey with his new album ‘Lil Herb,’ how revisiting his roots fueled creative and personal transformation, and how he channels pain and experience—loss, grief, and fatherhood—into his work. The conversation gets deeply personal, exploring mental health, therapy, giving back to his community, and what it means to embody growth as both an artist and a man.
G Herbo’s number one record:
[03:28] DJ Envy congratulates Herbo on going number one. Herbo emphasizes staying present but always planning ahead:
“I'm just trying to like, stay in the moment. For real. Just keep it, like, up... I try to live in the moment and grasp up that energy, but just keep it going. Like, I'm not trying to catch another number one. I'm just trying to keep it going.” — G Herbo, 03:31
Organic creation and betting on himself:
[04:00] G Herbo talks about how the hit was a fun, organic studio session with Southside.
“It was just me just having fun in the studio... Southside, he one of the only people that could tell me, like, rap on this. Just rap on this and figure it out. Just rap. And that changed my life.” — G Herbo, 04:00
Innovating with the G Herbo App:
[04:36] He describes using his direct-to-fan app to release music before it went public, highlighting his independent hustle:
“I got an app, like, where I just put out music...for the people who really support me. I put it out on my app in December, and the label put it out on DSPs in March, April. So you gotta just try… and see what the streets with.” — G Herbo, 04:36
On changing the “bag”:
[05:29] G Herbo confirms life-changing success thanks to his radio single:
“I finally caught that record, like that life-changing record. So yeah, the bag been crazy since.” — G Herbo, 06:05
Radio royalties vs. streaming:
[06:12] He affirms radio plays remain lucrative:
“The royalties from radio are better than the streaming.” — Charlemagne, 06:12 “Yeah, absolutely. For sure. Once you get a song that really go radio, it changes everything. For real, for real.” — G Herbo, 06:15
Advice for artists:
“I feel like every artist, all you need is like one radio record a year. Just one... It ain't that easy to get one record.” — G Herbo, 07:07
Why revisit Lil Herb?
[07:25] G Herbo explains returning to his roots and hunger:
“I was just trying to, like, tap into, like, that old hunger. Like my old self. And when I be rapping good... my fans be like, ‘That ain’t G Herbo. That’s Lil Herb.’ I feel like that was one of my best eras of rap.” — G Herbo, 07:25
Letting go and evolving:
[09:46] He’s intent on closing the chapter of “Lil Herb”—letting go of the street mindset:
“Closing that chapter is just letting go... I shouldn’t focus on nothing but music and my family and God... I’m 100% a real new person and a new artist.” — G Herbo, 09:46
On turning 30 and shifting mindset:
[11:48] He reflects on how hitting different life stages changes perspective:
“Once you touch 30, you just gonna start thinking... it’s like a light switch. Just tap in for you, and it's for me, for real.” — G Herbo, 11:48
Meek Mill’s influence:
[13:40] G Herbo credits Meek for inspiring him to see possibility:
“Meek is my favorite rapper. For real, bro. It’s my big brother... He gave you the real blueprint. You take care of your family, your mother... I retired my mom when I was 16.” — G Herbo, 13:48
The weight of responsibility:
“I told my mama to stop working when I was 16, she never worked since. I’ve been taking care of her, my aunties, my whole family since I was 16. That’s a lot of pressure.” — G Herbo, 15:55
Becoming a mentor for younger artists:
“Now you’re the Meek Mill for a lot of these younger artists... what do you show them?” — DJ Envy, 16:02
“You gotta show them tangible... I let people see me in the physical. Like, you gotta see it, have conversations... Seeing is believing. They just don’t think it’s possible. This shit is really possible.” — G Herbo, 16:08
Survival mentality:
[18:38] G Herbo describes the trauma and drive fostered by his upbringing:
“Surviving in Chicago, just making it out the streets alone is a blessing... Other people don’t get it... I know certain men that was real menaces in the streets that don’t do nothing but just be at home with their kids now because they just want peace.” — G Herbo, 25:37
Growing up fast:
He recalls being asked for drugs at age 9, showing how normalized street life was for him:
“Lady walked up on me like, ‘You got some C?’ ... She asked me if I had crack. Literally a kid.” — G Herbo, 28:39
Putting pain into music:
[30:57] The album is personal therapy:
“I'm speaking about, like, everything. I feel like I've covered a lot in this album... rap always been a form of, like, therapy for me... I don't think about, like, how people gonna receive it, how the world gonna receive it, how my family gonna receive it, or whatever. I just speak about whatever is on my mind.” — G Herbo, 30:57
Grieving his brother and learning to live:
[32:43] The rawness of loss is palpable:
“I've been losing people I love for 15 years... I really done lost some of my best friends and had to go do a show that same day... When my little brother died, it changed my life. That was some of the worst pain that I ever felt in my life ever.” — G Herbo, 32:43
Therapy’s role and staying guarded:
“I was going to therapy to help me... it helped me with PTSD... but I'm glad I never lost that edge, for real. Because that's how I protect myself. That's how I protect my children.” — G Herbo, 34:32
Alcoholism and breakdown:
[34:32] Herbo recounts how grief from his brother’s death nearly destroyed him:
“I lost myself. I became an alcoholic. Like, a bad alcoholic. I never used to drink, bro. I used to drink a fifth of liquor every single day… My girl was pregnant when he died...” — G Herbo, 34:32
On family, blame, and acceptance:
[36:39] His family helped him heal rather than blame him for his brother's fate:
“Nobody ever blamed me, for real, for real... My grandma made me snap out of drinking and crashing out, because she like, ‘Man, I already lost him. I’m not going to lose you to this.’” — G Herbo, 36:52
Struggling with self-blame:
[38:59]
“I was definitely blaming myself because I just felt like... I used to tell him, like, move to LA... I used to talk to that... like, bro, just stop going back... He was more optimistic. He didn’t think like that.” — G Herbo, 39:03
He ultimately learned:
“You can't feel like you could save everybody... I stopped blaming myself when I realized it was nothing I could do.” — G Herbo, 39:03
Focusing on kids and long-term well-being:
[41:33] On resisting street retaliation after his brother's death:
“If that shit stay on my brain and I think about it three times, four times... that’s when I feel like is eligible for me to not crash out, but react. Because I’m never gonna crash out... I just think about my kids. That’s the main reason I don’t do crazy shit. Cause I think about my kids.” — G Herbo, 43:41
On being real about consequences:
“If you make a crazy decision, a life changing decision, you gotta explain that to your kids... So they don’t make the decision. So they understand why my dad not coming home.” — G Herbo, 44:17
The tone of the conversation is honest, reflective, at times gritty—and overwhelmingly committed to growth, self-understanding, and using pain as a foundation for a better life. G Herbo’s openness, combined with the hosts’ thoughtful and sometimes humorous approach, delivers a heartfelt and engaging discussion.
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This summary captures the heart of G Herbo’s interview, making it informative for listeners new and old to both his music and his journey.