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DJ Envy
every day I wake up.
Manny Fresh
Wake your ass up.
DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren the Rose is here as well. We got some special guests in the building.
DJ Envy
Some icons.
Charlamagne Tha God
Juvenile and man and Fresh back at it. What's up?
Manny Fresh
What's happening man?
Charlamagne Tha God
How you feeling?
Juvenile
Cooling. Cooling.
Manny Fresh
Trying to make it half man Y Y Trying to make it half naked.
DJ Envy
Making it man. Listen, I know we here to talk about the Still 400 podcast, man.
Manny Fresh
Yes sir, man.
DJ Envy
Boy, they sent us a copy of that damn Boiling Point juice. Lord have mercy. Thank you for making some age appropriate music, man.
Juvenile
Thank you, man.
DJ Envy
Tender age of 47, one of my favorite things to do is something and doze off.
Juvenile
All right.
Manny Fresh
Not something.
Charlamagne Tha God
The album is dope. We got a chance to listen to the album, man.
Juvenile
I'm glad y' all listen to it. I ain't think y' all Had a copy of it, but. And y' all knew it's a couple tracks that ain't on there, right? Okay, so it's the Rob 49, y' all probably didn't hear. And y' all didn't hear the NBA young boy record, but we didn't even hear y' all hear the Wayne record either.
DJ Envy
I was gonna ask about that.
Juvenile
I got two albums, right? So I'm releasing one now, and I'll wait a few months and release the second one.
Manny Fresh
Okay.
Juvenile
So that's what the thing.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now we noticed the one with Megan that was released. Bbb Megan's not on the album.
Juvenile
She's on the album. Okay. I think they sent y'. All. Yeah, she's on the album. I think they sent you a bit full copy, but it's all good. I don't even know if the audio got right, because I think this guy said the first song was with bg, And I was like, no, that ain't the first song.
Host
The first song, I think is Juvie Beverly.
Juvenile
Yeah, that's not the first song.
Charlamagne Tha God
Then it's dropped the location and pay me back and.
Juvenile
Yeah, yeah, go ahead and say it, bro. Pay me back. And. I've been singing that song on stage, and by the time I get to the. The second hook, all the women are singing it, and I tell them, y' all all owe us, so payback time.
DJ Envy
You got BG and Birdman in their bag on this project, too. Like, what do you. What is it about you that seems to bring out the best in them? Or do y' all just bring out the best in each other?
Juvenile
You. I'm competitive. You know, if you want to say me, I always, always have been. Me and Manny. I don't know if people know, man. This dude been warring in the studio from day one. I'm just competitive. I walk in the studio and say, I'm about to bust your ass. You better be ready. And when we do songs together, they know that's how I feel, so they gonna be competitive with me.
Charlamagne Tha God
What got you to this point where I know a lot of times when artists get a little older, they're scared to put out music. Cause they're scared that how it be received, right? Cause everything's a stream, everything's a number. But here it look like you ain't give a about none of that. You just put on a beat, and
DJ Envy
I'm gonna go in.
Juvenile
I really focused on my 9, 9 and my 2000s. Really, you know, I don't want to chase a fan I just want to do good music, and hopefully people accept it and like it. But I'm really not trying to chase a fan. I'm doing this for me and my people, and that's it.
Host
Even the way you was rolling out some of the new music, like, you would drop the videos on your Instagram, and then that would go crazy. So we all like, well, where is it? Where is it? Like, but you dropping it like Envy, saying, a lot of times people hesitate. You just putting it out there. Like, I know y' all gonna want this here.
Juvenile
Boom. And they do. Yeah. Hey. And you know what is the funny part is, when I put that first date out that I was gonna release in October, people got mad at me when I didn't put that album out. So I'm glad it's coming out, and it's coming out on my birthday. So we really gonna cut up.
Chelsea Handler
Oh, that's why it's timeless, y'.
DJ Envy
All.
Chelsea Handler
Both of y' all sound like even your son.
Host
Every.
Charlamagne Tha God
Every son snapped.
Manny Fresh
He snapped.
Juvenile
Wow.
Chelsea Handler
It don't sound like you. Y' all ever stepped out of music or took a hiatus or whatever. Like, you sound like you ain't never stop. I love it.
Juvenile
I really never stop. But the truth is just kind of scared to get in the studio listening to everything else that's going on. I just was like, I don't know if I could. I don't know if I could compete. But then I had to sit back and have. Have that. That. That. That reality check that tells me, nah, bro, you gotta. You gotta make music for you and your fans. You don't have to appeal to nobody else.
Host
That's crazy to hear. Cause the. The production of it sounds like. I mean, you weren't afraid of that either. Like, even on the Hot Boy Summer. And, like, the sample that you used there with the Debar sample.
Juvenile
Yeah.
Host
It doesn't sound like you were afraid to get back in the studio or worried about competing at all. It's like you knew exactly what you wanted to kind of get into.
Juvenile
Shout out to my man C. Smith, too, for making that track. I really was scared. I'm not getting no money off this one, but, yeah, the album just came together. Manny. Manny did so much, so many great things. Outside of him just producing the tracks, the ideas, our ideas was flowing together to make this project what it is.
DJ Envy
What about you, Manny? I know you're not scared to get in the studio.
Manny Fresh
Hell, no. I mean, I'm trying to bring fun back, bro. You know, and our era was fun. You know, and you. You.
DJ Envy
You.
Manny Fresh
You gotta. You know, it resonate when the song sound like that. People know the song is like, oh, well, this is really his personality. This is in somewhere. We got too cool to have fun, you know? So when. When I do it, I'm. I'm going have. I'm gonna have fun, you know, it's gonna be some vodka and some juice, and I'm like, turn on the mic, you know, And. And he already was. What's cool about juvie is he knows what I'mma do. Like, you know, and he ain't trying to say change it. He's like. He's like, bro, I know you gonna say some crazy ass or whatever, you know? And I'm like, that is the way I approach a song, and it resonates with our fans. I think what he found out, what, you know, like, he didn't figure out by us being on tour. When me and him went on tour, we got close to the fans. We did, and we figured out, like, y' all really like the. That we do. Y' all don't want the new version of us, you know what I'm saying? Y' all don't need the new version of us. They just like, do what you do, and we all right with it.
Charlamagne Tha God
You got to bring dancing back is what you bringing the. You got to bring dancing. And this album is dancing.
Juvenile
Specifically, shaking your ass. Yes for the lady some of these cats can't dance with. I know I can't. I got two left foot.
Manny Fresh
But you can stand still and let.
Juvenile
Let.
DJ Envy
When you get in the studio today, Manny, are you chasing nostalgia or are you trying to create a new sound?
Manny Fresh
Or you just like, no, I had a long time of doing that, trying to say, well, you know, this is what this sound like, or whatever. And I'm like, this a headache trying to figure out some. That you already know how to do, you know? So I just had that moment of, like, let me step back and. And real, real. I stopped listening to just new, you know what I'm saying? Because it's nothing against it, but that. That's. That's they era that belongs to them. And I'm like, you know what? Let me go back to my era. Let me listen to some of the. That I love, like, eight ball MJG or whatever. Like, you know, and that right there was like, okay, this. This is still the same music, same chord, same format. And the reason why we like them songs like that so much, because they easy, you know, and. And we. We've been using the same patterns for forever. We already know them. They're embedded in us. It's like hearing Marvin Gaye, you know, and you don't even know why. It's timeless. Why you like. Because it's simple and it's. It's the same that's been used in music for forever and forever.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now I wanted to. Somebody in this room wanted to know fuego and said, is fuego.
Juvenile
The. What did you.
Host
I said, is it.
Juvenile
I said, some young.
Host
I said, is fuego a flip on? Like a Latin flip on? Get it from a mama?
Juvenile
Nah,
DJ Envy
I'm not gonna lie. When she asked that question, I kind of went.
Manny Fresh
You got so mad.
DJ Envy
Reason I went off in the room, man, it's like. It's the hot boys. They've been using references to fire forever.
Juvenile
I'm just saying fire. It was fire.
Host
But I was trying to figure out. Because there was other samples on the other song. So I was trying to figure out, like, if you, like, use one of your older songs, because I thought I heard, like, some of the same.
Charlamagne Tha God
She came in here, like, she figured it out.
Juvenile
She was like, so many ways we set fire. So many different ways we. We got, you know, be innovative. And that was. That was my way of doing it.
Host
I made them put the song on in the other room, and then we was playing it together. I'm like, I know I hear this, but I can't.
DJ Envy
How many. How many fire references can you do the song?
Host
I. I mean, I'll try it for that song.
Juvenile
I need training, man. They talking about shooting a video for that.
Manny Fresh
You went against a DJ and you told him, you hear. No, no. She came here just quiet. It was quiet.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did y' all hear Fuego?
Host
Do I hear another song in this song? Yeah, I swear I did.
Charlamagne Tha God
Got so mad.
Manny Fresh
Like, so mad. Like this.
DJ Envy
Just some. You know what, though? She young, though. She.
Host
No, you always shut up.
Chelsea Handler
You always.
Host
He always. Because I'm 34. He always talked to me like, I don't have any experience with old music. Like, my experience is a little younger than yours, old man.
Juvenile
Your mama. Your mama was listening to it. Probably your parents, right?
Host
Was in the parties.
Juvenile
Get it from your mom. That's where she got it from. Living. Let her live. Don't.
Chelsea Handler
That's what I was saying. Calm down.
Manny Fresh
I'm about to give it to you
Host
back to the ancestors every time I taste something.
DJ Envy
Because even in the album, it's called Boiling Point. Yeah, right. So what's. That's an intense title, but that feeds into the fire references, too.
Juvenile
It does.
DJ Envy
Yes.
Juvenile
That's all it is. It's really like 400 degrees, 20, 26.
Manny Fresh
Yeah, basically.
Charlamagne Tha God
But do you chase those records to
Chelsea Handler
back that ass up?
Charlamagne Tha God
Records and do y' all chase those?
Manny Fresh
No, no. I feel like somebody tell me, make one of them. I'm like, I can't.
Charlamagne Tha God
Make somebody call you, say, make me one of them.
Manny Fresh
It's been so many artists that said that. You know what I'm saying? Like, can you make me? I'm like, I can't. That. That ain't gon. That was something special about that moment, that day, how it went down. I'm like, tell us how it went down. We was beefing over. It was a wall. Yeah.
Juvenile
Basically. He kept changing the beat. First of all, I was rapping. I wasn't doing the. Yeah. Shaking as. I wasn't doing none of that. He kept changing. He See, his thing was, I can't beat him out. So I felt like I was killing him. On the first. On the first beat I was killing, I was like, damn. Yeah, man. So when I got back to the studio, he had to change the beat. It's the first time. I'm like, damn. So I changed the lyrics again. I got him again. I'm like, yeah, I got his ass again. So we come back, we get to Nashville. Now the album got to get turned in the next day. They're like, bro, you got two days. You got one day to record two songs. I'm like, well, damn. What songs I gotta record? He said, man, we gotta do. Huh? And you said, you want to hear. You heard? Back that ass up again. I said, nah. So, man, he played it to me. So now they got the. He didn't change the whole beat again. I said, I go in the room now. He tell him, you can't change nothing. He said, you ain't changing nothing. So I walk out the room, I get in my mind, and moon. I go straight to Slim. Say, slim, bro, he didn't. Did it again, bro. Y' all gotta at least. At least let me do something else. Let me take a chance at recording another song. So he let me get in there. That's how we got what we got.
Chelsea Handler
So it wasn't always the violin in the beginning.
Juvenile
It wasn't always like that.
Manny Fresh
No, no.
Chelsea Handler
That was what you added and tweaked it, too.
Manny Fresh
Yeah. Cause I was just like this, you know, like sometimes, you know, one of them that's gonna be a hit. Just the DJ in me knew that this song was gonna Be a hit. I was like, this one is gonna be a hit. And I was like, the intro was the setup. Like, you know? Cause it was still that era of like, whatever you doing, you know, you got time to get to the dance floor. I'm like, you know what? This shit need an intro. It need, like a little setup. When it comes down, it's gonna be phenomenal, you know, And. And you gotta think when you're telling somebody that they don't get it. They're like, why you did that long ass in the beginning? What the. And I'm like, I got this. I know what I'm doing.
Chelsea Handler
And do y' all know in the clubs, they. They extended even longer dead.
Juvenile
It was right, right then.
Chelsea Handler
That's why I got a whole joke in my set about it. And I come out to back that ass up. I go off to back that ass up. I gotta joke about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't.
Chelsea Handler
I don't play about that song.
Juvenile
I see.
Chelsea Handler
I appreciate new twerk anthem of all time.
Juvenile
Yeah, I love it.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I wanted to know what that was.
DJ Envy
I saw something. I don't know if it was on the Still Pointed podcast. You said everybod song, Manny.
Manny Fresh
Well, no, Juve didn't see it as, you know, because he didn't want to be known as a bounce rapper because, you know, he really, really. He was like. And I'm like, bro, this one. I promise you, this one is going to be one of them.
Juvenile
Okay, I'm going to give you an example. He wanted that to be the first single, and I was totally against that. I'm like, bro, I've been doing bounce music my whole life. I come over here to get away from it. I don't mind doing one or two songs, but you gotta let me. I want to let the world know I could really rap. Know what I'm saying? And I want to not just be a normal rapper. I want to push the needle a little bit. And I felt like Han was the one that was going to do that for me. And I was right. I was right because, I mean, my dog Jay Z jumped on a remix. So I feel like I did do my thing, but guess what? It didn't do it didn't send people to the record stores. I mean, so I wasn't selling because of that.
Charlamagne Tha God
So let me ask you to the end of Back that Ass up, right? Why would driving. Like, where did that come from? Because not every version had it.
Manny Fresh
Wayne on it. Wayne on it. Yeah. Wayne waited in the corner.
Juvenile
Wayne, he knew as well, he was in that.
Manny Fresh
Just like, yep, I got something, dude.
Juvenile
I got my turn. He said.
Manny Fresh
I was like, go ahead.
Juvenile
I said, yeah, that's fine.
Charlamagne Tha God
So Wayne was. He just seen it in the corner.
Juvenile
He was gonna be a.
Manny Fresh
He was gonna be. He meant he was gonna be on this, like, you know what I'm saying? And he was just like, well, when can I do something? I was like, go ahead, bro. Do the end up. I got.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wait on the fade out. Let's start fading out.
Juvenile
He wanted a verse. He really wanted a verse.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Juvenile
Yeah, it was too long. It was. It was our show.
DJ Envy
When y' all do the podcast, how does it feel talking to people that, you know, your lives are more interesting than.
Juvenile
Oh, man.
Manny Fresh
Go ahead.
DJ Envy
You had more success here you go with his. I'd rather hear you and Manny talk.
Juvenile
Shout out to everybody been on my podcast. We want our podcast to keep going.
Chelsea Handler
Whose idea was it to do still 400 podcast?
Juvenile
Well, it was a little bit of both of us and. And Dave, too, you know, but Manny was the. Was the first one with the title. You know, I was lost with the title. You know, I'm never good with making
Manny Fresh
Tyson tan, you know, and people like, well, where did you know it came from? Still Fly and, you know, 400 degrees, which is, to me, one of the most popular song, like, from the Big Timers. To me, it's still Fly. So I was just like, why not incorporate something that's both of us or whatever, like, you know, and it represents both of us. So that's where the name came from.
Chelsea Handler
Gotcha.
Juvenile
But our podcast is about fun, so we don't get on there. We don't want people even coming over there with their stresses or your beefs. We try our best to combat that. We want to get on there and just have fun. Talk about the funny things in your life. Talk about things that people may don't know about you. A lot of cats got. Got some humor going on inside that they don't let people know. They never come out. They shell. So that's what we try to do on our show.
DJ Envy
Is the album Boiling Point? Is it about proving something, or is it more about just documenting where y' all mind is today?
Juvenile
It's more like satisfying my fans and really feeding the hunger on myself and seeing if I could really do it. It's like an old cat saying, I still got it. I still got it. When I walk in, y' all say, I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's what I need. But it's pretty Much me, man. Just, you know, letting my fans know where I'm at in life. I'm happy. You know, simple as that. I'm happy.
Charlamagne Tha God
How did you and Megan get up on that record for the bbb?
Juvenile
Well, people reached out to me, but, like, she was talking about the snippets. I put a snippet out riding. Riding in the car with just the one verse and the hook playing, and it went crazy. And the first comments. All the comments was, megan need to be on this. I mean, with 90% of the comments, Megan need to be on this. Megan. So my thing was, okay, y' all go tell her. And they started going on page telling her. And they reached out to her, reached out for the song.
Host
So what was happening with the date? Cause wasn't it, like, with that song specifically? It was, like, supposed to drop at one point. You and Megan's. Her verse, and then you changed the date and it was upset.
Juvenile
I didn't have nothing to do with that. Only thing I changed the date on is the album releasing. They was upset about the album releasing. But the Megan popping for that verse, we shocked them with that because kept asking for it, but I never told him it was happening till, like, two days before it came out.
Charlamagne Tha God
Who's a young lady that was on it before Megan.
Juvenile
Her name is Genesis the God. And she's cutting up on it. I didn't take her off the album for the record, too, because that's one of my son's friends. And she did a great job.
Chelsea Handler
She delivered. It was fire.
Charlamagne Tha God
So do you go to your son more now? Like, son, I really.
Juvenile
I go to my kids for a lot. My daughter runs my social media, so I'm not.
Host
She does a good job.
Juvenile
Thank you.
Host
Because it reaches outside of just.
Juvenile
Yeah, she. She is stuck on algorithms. I don't even understand it.
Chelsea Handler
But is your son one of the people that you talked to when you said at first you was feeling scared about getting in the studio, making new music or whatever because of everything that's out now? Did you talk to him about it?
Juvenile
So I'm with my baby boy, my youngest boy, almost every day of the week because he's a school teacher and I'm by his house. I'm just an aggravating parent. I'm always by his house. And my oldest son, a young juve. He's the one that's always, like, telling me, pops, you should do this. You should do this. Try this. So, you know, it's kind of like I'm the kid again, you know? Like, they say twice a child, twice a kid. It's kind of like they parenting me a little bit. And I just. I just listen.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah.
DJ Envy
I wanna ask you, Manny, do you think the culture is ready to respect its elders the same way genres like jazz or blues did?
Charlamagne Tha God
Or even rock and roll?
Manny Fresh
I think we gotta knock down walls, bro. Like, it's a rebirth of music for me. And it's a. And. And the cool thing is that it's now or never. You know, we. We got a lot of. I won't call them old school. I'm gonna say seasoned artists. That. That's like, they making good music, great albums. And it's. And you seeing the shift. You seeing people like, oh, I really like this. Like, you know, it's got substance, it's got movement to it. So I think we gotta knock down doors, you know, we can't accept no more. When somebody does an interview and they say, I don't really rap, I just do this. Well, move out the way and let somebody who do it do it, you know? Cause you got a lot of artists that do that, that say, like, ah, this ain't really my thing, you know? And I'm like, well, this. This really my thing. This is my bread and butter, you know, And. And. And I think we. We. We gotta knock down doors sometimes and shake things up.
Juvenile
Yeah.
Manny Fresh
What do you think? You.
Juvenile
For me? I. I don't. I try not to be so critical of the young cats. Cause I was that cat. And a lot of the older cats was calling, what I did wasn't rap. They said, that ain't rap. And I'm like, well, damn, bro. I'm taking care of my family. My records is selling. I'm selling more records than you. And I'm doing good. I'm doing good in my life. So who cares if it's rap or not? Like, if my fans. The fans see me a certain way, I don't even care what another artist think about. So us as. So now, me being that older cat, I always stick my hand out to him. I always reach my arm out to him, and I always try to show them love. And I'm never gonna say nothing negative about them, because if. How do you want to see him? You want to see him with a mic or you want to see him with that tool in his hand, you
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Juvenile
to, I try to think like that and try to have an open mind about it because we don't own this. And I don't see no other genre of music criticizing the youngsters. I don't see country doing that. I don't see R and B. I don't see nobody else doing that. So I try to tell my cats and the cats that's older before me, like we don't own it, bro. We don't have ownership. We don't have a union or something like that that predicts how this goes. So there's no rules. So stop trying to make a rule.
Manny Fresh
Charlamagne. How do you think we bridge that gap? How do you think we get this, this younger generation to respect, you know, the, the what. What came before them?
DJ Envy
Just keep making dope music. Like you see what TI doing right now with the, with the Let them Know record. Like dope records are dope records that all right. They transcend, you know, age. Like you got the BBB joint right now, people loving the record.
Manny Fresh
Yeah.
DJ Envy
I just think making, making dope music because I was talking about that earlier with the younger generation, I feel like because of social media, they don't have, they don't get the real world experience.
Juvenile
Yeah.
DJ Envy
To still be able to write well into their 40s, 50s, if that makes.
Host
Yeah, she got good OGs. Y' all do a really good job about talking about this type of stuff on the podcast. I remember it was a clip with David Banner that went viral, and he was talking about how y' all were trying to survive the industry at one point. So y' all didn't really get the chance to pass down the tools because you were surviving it.
Manny Fresh
Yeah.
Host
In a young generation of music needs that.
Juvenile
Yeah.
Host
And I. When I. I mean, I watched your show, but when I saw that, I'm like, this is why your podcast is going to be so gold, because of those type of conversations. Because now y' all in a space where y' all could do it, and that preserves it, too.
Juvenile
I think the good thing about it is it's not about us. Right. It's about the person that comes on. And to the younger generation, I feel like. I feel like I'm a part of their generation also. I mean, I do music with the younger cats also. 42 Doug is one of my friends, son. Me and Rob, 49, just did an album together. So, you know, my album. So when I run into young cats, I don't never treat them like that. I don't never say it. I don't care. I got my opinion. Whatever my personal opinion is of them, I keep it to myself because I was taught, if you ain't got nothing good to say, don't say nothing at all. You ain't got to spend a night with that person. You ain't got to be with them 24 7. So that's how I do. I try to spread the love, and hopefully these cats will start seeing what I'm doing and follow suit.
Charlamagne Tha God
How the album with Rob 4:9 come about just that.
Juvenile
And it's kind of crazy. He said, unk, you don't like a lot of OGs, don't treat us the way you do. And he kind of like. He felt like he relate to me better than everybody else.
Host
What's one thing that y' all learned that you passed down now, that you didn't realize when you were trying to survive the industry, but now that y' all are living and y' all are
Manny Fresh
flourishing, the statement that you said, you know, it's a lot of artists, I don't know. I don't know what it is. They don't have the guts to say the reason why I couldn't help you because I was fucked up myself.
Juvenile
Yeah.
Manny Fresh
You know what I'm saying? I was fighting through deals, you know, I was trying to figure out my paperwork. I was trying to figure out cross my T's and dot my Eyes like, you know, so I couldn't tell you how to do it when I didn't know how to do it.
Host
Yeah.
Manny Fresh
You know, and it took a while, you know, to, to learn, like, okay, I can't do homeboy business. I gotta really do. The lawyers gotta show up. We can't just shake hands on it no more. And if you, if you say it can't happen that way, then we can't do it, you know, because it's, it's. How can I tell the next generation how to survive this when I'm still doing it, you know, in a crazy ass manner when I'm just, I'm trusting somebody who I'm like, nah, nah, bro, it's crazy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, you know, when you look, we had Teddy Riley up here and when Teddy Riley, you talk about all the hits that he's producing, he said his paperwork wasn't right.
Juvenile
Right, man?
Manny Fresh
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
And you hear like salt and pepper, who was just at the Rock and Roll hall of Fame that put out all these records that say to this day their paperwork ain't right. You start understanding like, damn, we gotta pass down what we know because if not, we're gonna be in the same situation over and over again.
Juvenile
And we look at, I look at it like a sacrifice, man, because, you know, in the beginning we didn't have the means that the artists got right now, like these artists surround themselves with some of the best lawyers and the best everything. Yeah, we didn't have those advantages. All those advantages was at the record companies. They had all the best lawyers and the best representation. So now when, when the new cats come around and they do their business the way they do it, we see it and we like, God damn. Oh, I wish we had the opportunities that they got. If we had social media, even though it could be negative in its own way, but I think if we had social media in our era, when the record sales was through the Damn roof, like 98, 99, 97, we would have way more money, way more revenue than we have now.
Charlamagne Tha God
It was a lot different though. Like you said, you had to be intentional to go buy an album, right? It wasn't. You couldn't buy it online. You had to go to a record store, you had to go to a CD spot, you had to go buy it. And whether it was rain, sleet, snow, hot, you went to go buy that album.
Juvenile
And if you was a real music head, you ain't want to hear from your partner or your friend. You had to have it first.
Manny Fresh
Yeah, failure made you better Failure made you better in our era. Cause you was just like, I can't fall on my face. And y' all just look at me and laugh. I be back, and when I come back, it's gonna be bigger and better next time I come back, you know? And now it just seemed like, you know, when shit happens, how do you dust yourself off? How do you get back out there? You gotta do some shock value shit or some crazy shit instead of just, hey, dust yourself off and get back out there.
Juvenile
You know what, though? In the days of social media, it's so hard once you get. Once you go down to build yourself back up. I don't know why.
DJ Envy
Because the narrative. The narrative sticks with you on social media. So once it become a joke on social media, it stays there for a long time. You could be winning in real life.
Manny Fresh
Yeah.
DJ Envy
But on social media, they'll still act like you lose it.
Charlamagne Tha God
What were your biggest failures that you was here with?
DJ Envy
I wanna ask some question about the business. It's interesting to hear y' all say that, because I always felt like cash money, they showed us how to do business.
Juvenile
No, we did. I'm gonna say it. We did business. Far as record company business in the beginning. But us as artists got you. Us as the artists, we didn't have our shit together. And I'm not pointing the finger at them because we had our shit together. None of. Some of the things would have never happened. But, yeah, as far as cash money, breaking, kicking down or breaking barriers to deal for $30 million, that definitely broke barriers.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I was asking, what were your biggest failures? Do y' all remember your biggest failures in the industry? One thing that y' all made a slipper. Like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have did this record, or I shouldn't have did this verse.
Juvenile
Oh, man. One of my biggest failures in the music industry, if I want to say a record. If I say a record, probably the Flow Rider record, and it wasn't mine. Let me start. It was. It was. It was Paul Wall's record. But Mike Karen told me multiple times, man, you should keep this record. You should keep Paul Walnut on it, and you killing it. Yes.
DJ Envy
That was Nelly record too.
Juvenile
No, it was never. Never Nelly record. So. So Paul Wall didn't want it. I'm like, they got to take the apple bottom jeans part. I'm from New Orleans. We don't. I said, he got to take that part off. So let's see if T Pain could take it off. T, like, nah, I ain't changing it. It's staying like that. So then Mike brings up Flow Rider. I got a new cat. Flow Rider, da da da. I'm like, well, shit, let him have it. I can't. If he not gonna change it, let him have it. But that was a fumble.
DJ Envy
Damn. They could have been the same record for you, though.
Juvenile
I mean, it had the same hook on it. You don't think the hook sold that record?
Charlamagne Tha God
That hook sold a record. How about you, Manny?
Manny Fresh
I would say not speaking my mind, you know? You know, because it was a lot of. I let. Just go, you know, because. Wanting to stay neutral, not wanting to see the argument and what. Not wanting to see the fight, like, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like I. Because if I would have spoke my mind, I think would have turned out different. But I also believe that there's something like, God got a plan for you. Sometimes you got to walk that walk. Like, you know, and. And everything happened for a reason.
Juvenile
But.
Manny Fresh
But I would say one of the biggest regrets was not, you know, speaking my mind a lot of times on how I really felt about situations.
DJ Envy
But you say y' all used to argue in the studio.
Manny Fresh
Yeah, we did, but that was projects that. I was like, we shouldn't do this right now. At the time. It shouldn't have been like this. Like, for instance, 400 degrees. I wasn't ready to let that album go. I knew there was other singles on it, you know what I'm saying? And I agreed to, like, they like, we gotta work on juvie's new album. I'm like, no, we don't.
DJ Envy
We.
Manny Fresh
We.
Juvenile
We.
Manny Fresh
We. We haven't scratched the surface with this. We're not finished. You know what I'm saying? Where I'm like. I'm like, I know there's other songs in here. You got to think. 400 degrees was never a single.
Juvenile
Oh, man. Put your sets up. Run for it. Yeah, yeah, we could have. It was.
Manny Fresh
It was more that. That was. That was times where, like, just. Just a simple format, you know, where the concept of, like, the beginning of this was, like, we wanted to do things that were obtainable to the hood and people, like. So that's why when we first started doing this, it was PT Cruises and Chrysler 3 hundreds, because we knew you could afford that shit, you know what I'm saying? And everybody.
Charlamagne Tha God
That was it on purpose.
Manny Fresh
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But then egos got. It's Lamborghini time. It's da da da da. And my concept was always. It's more Honda Accords than Lamborghinis. Stick with the Honda Accord cards. And we going. We going, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, dude, you.
Juvenile
You.
Manny Fresh
You changing from. You know what I'm saying? But I was like, okay, I'mma go with the flow, you know.
Juvenile
Yeah, you got a Rolls Royce, too, so.
Manny Fresh
Yeah, I did. All of us had our moments.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now, when you think about it, you go back to those videos. You remember seeing the PT Cruisers, the Chrysler 300-00, and the cars that they loved in the hood with rims and this, that and the other thing. But now it makes sense why you did it that way.
Manny Fresh
Cause the concept of how I made songs, I thought about the. The visuals and everything, you know what I'm saying? Like, what the video was gonna be, how we was gonna do it, and how we was going, you know, sell it, and made things completely different from when I saw a shift in music was when we did go dj. You know, the concept of when we was doing it, I. I said, we're gonna send all the DJs, like a video camera, and, like, if you was a radio dj, you can, you know, tape your show and send it back to us. And we gonna take all of that footage and. And we gonna, you know, and then we gonna make this, like, something big, like, with all the radio DJs. So when. When, when. So I got the hook on the song, all of that, and when Wayne did it, he didn't say about DJs, nothing at all. And I was just like, well, what the. The concept is not that, but it was so jamming. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna just leave this alone and see what happens. And I was like, okay, nobody never said he ain't say shit about DJs on this. Like, you know what I'm saying? They didn't give a damn. So I was just like, that's crazy. So something else is going on in the water, like, you know, so that. That kind of was. I was like, okay, there's a shift in music, something going on, like, you know, because I was like, this crazy because they. They rapping this song word for word. It has nothing to do with DJs, but the hook. Yeah, yeah.
DJ Envy
What is it about New Orleans that still inspires y' all so much?
Juvenile
Because I even hear that in Boiling Point culture, man. It's our food, our language.
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Juvenile
Second line. We celebrate the dead. We live to celebrate. I'm talking about, man, you will never see nothing like New Orleans. It's never it's the only real 24 hour city in America. Everybody say they got 24 hour cities in it. The bars close at a certain. You can't walk out the bar with your drink, you know, don't sell alcohol at the gas stations. You don't have drive through liquor stores. We got all that. And we sell alcohol 24 7. If it's open, we selling it. If you had a bar, we don't have two o', clock, they say two o'. Clock. Last call for alcohol. The bar open, you're drinking.
Manny Fresh
Just imagine how it is. You got a crazy ass sibling or uncle or auntie that don't give a shit about nothing that's going on with you that puts you in your place. So it's a whole city that do that they don't give a fuck about, you know what I'm saying? Your success, they like, boy, sit your stupid ass down with all of that. And they go, keeps you grounded, you know what I'm saying? One of the, one of the sweet things about New Orleans, you, you, you will never be a star to New Orleans. And what I mean is they gonna always treat you well, you know, like look, look bro, you one of us, we respect what you do or whatever, but at the same time, Popeye's chicken, that's what we, that's what we doing today. Ain't nothing special for your ass.
DJ Envy
Even at the height.
Manny Fresh
Even at the height.
Juvenile
Well, we, I, we, we had, you know, we had our moments, but people saw us so much in the city. Like New Orleans is small. Usually when you bump into somebody, the chances of seeing them again are like at 100%, you're gonna see them again. So down there, family members that you probably never met before in life, lives right on the other side of the town, which is probably like 20, what, 20 miles. New Orleans, probably 20 miles total.
Manny Fresh
I tend to run through that motherfucker. That's it. We like to think we're a huge city.
Juvenile
15 minutes anywhere on the highway, you're out of there. Ye, you know what I'm saying? So it's so small, so it's well grounded and the people just stick to what they know. They don't like to change. It's like a bunch of old people that don't want change.
Manny Fresh
One of those things we had that, you know, we don't really ever get a chance to talk about, but one of the things that we had, like a lot of crews don't have, our parents was death. Every, every walk of the shit that was going on. You know, our parents knew each other. You know what I'm saying? My mama knew his mom. Like, when, you know, they.
Juvenile
They.
Manny Fresh
They. They hung out together. And, you know, if that. That was documented, you know, like, juvie daddy got. He took pictures of every that. I'm like, I didn't even know he was doing this, like, you know what I'm saying? So I think we had a lot of that kept us grounded, too, where, you know, like, if you went crazy, you know, his mama could tell me that. Because you respect her as an elder, she like, oh, you tripping. You got to stop with that bullshit you doing. You know what I'm saying?
DJ Envy
I like how you say y' all celebrate the dead, too. Because I always think about that when I see people nowadays who I'm smoking on such and such pack or whatever, whatever. How y' all be feeling when y' all see that?
Juvenile
Well, that don't relate to me. I don't really understand that. I'm gonna be honest with you. When they. I don't get that. So they gotta explain that part to me, because I don't really understand it. But in New Orleans, instead of. For us, instead of mourning and thinking about, you know, you lost your per. You lost somebody that you really love, we think about the great things we did together and what they. What that person would have did if they were still here, and we try to celebrate those things. And that's why we call it, you know, second line. Because the first line is the band, and the second line is the people. And it's all based upon that. We celebrate the dead. And to be honest, I enjoy it because who wants to be moaning and frowned up and sad? Like, I get it when a person first died, but usually when a funeral occurs, that's like a week later, a week or two later, you should have
Manny Fresh
been, you know, the craziest thing I've seen in a long time. Frankie Beverly, when he passed how New Orleans mourned him. Yeah. Oh, my God, it was insane. Like, you know what I'm saying? They really celebrated this man getting a
Juvenile
fight in New Orleans, a serious fight. Tell somebody Frankie Beverly ain't from New Orleans.
Manny Fresh
Amazed the whole group. We really feel like they're not from.
Juvenile
Tell him that. Like, he got kids. I got my man. I go get my grandfather, right?
Manny Fresh
Yeah.
Juvenile
All your ass down, bro. Like, say, brother man from Philadelphia, man. We don't give.
Manny Fresh
Nah, bro.
Juvenile
Nah, brother. Funeral was here. He wasn't in the casket, bro. They had a. All white, all shut. The city down all White Parade and they made a casket, bro.
Charlamagne Tha God
He wasn't in it.
Manny Fresh
He wasn't in it. He was throwing that casket around like he was in there. Second line and tossing it and everything.
Juvenile
And I was mad. I was mad as.
Manny Fresh
That's your uncle. You know what I'm saying?
Juvenile
The song on my album is called Juvie Beverly, right? Because everybody always. My guy Slab always called me Frankie Beverly for one reason. Maze is one of the only bands that he performed all the way up until he couldn't no more, right? Always stayed booked. And he. He say the same thing about me. Like, dude, if you stay booked, you're like, God damn, you stay booked. You like Frankie Beverly. So I always looked at Maze as somebody that I wanted to be like. That's why I got a band, because I feel like they had the best band, that live band on stage. If you've never seen anybody perform, man, trust me.
Manny Fresh
Yeah.
Juvenile
Nobody's touching them. And we miss them. We miss them in New Orleans. Take it. Take it to heart.
Manny Fresh
Yeah.
DJ Envy
You remember the first time you seen them in concert?
Juvenile
Budweiser Super Fest in New Orleans. Super dumb. Okay.
Manny Fresh
We ain't see Maze first. We grew up with Mays. Your mama cleaned your house today.
Juvenile
Well, May recorded a live album at the Singer in New Orleans. Okay?
Manny Fresh
Yeah.
Juvenile
He said. Famous word. He said, well, why would you do a live album in New Orleans? He said, well. I said, well, why not? You dig? That's law. That is Martin Luther King Sands, and that's Nicks.
DJ Envy
Listen, how many times has somebody actually paid y' all back in pussy, man?
Chelsea Handler
Jesus.
Juvenile
My wife. Yeah. Put my personal business in the street, man.
Manny Fresh
I need that move.
Juvenile
I'm a married man. I get paid all the time, man.
Chelsea Handler
Getting a tour. We getting a tour for this album.
Juvenile
Yeah, I start April. April 2nd. I've been promoting it for a couple months now. My guy's gonna come out. I've been trying to get him on the whole day.
Manny Fresh
I'm gonna do some dates. I'm out here DJing. Y' all know what this is. Manny back on the road a couple years ago.
Juvenile
Manny.
Charlamagne Tha God
Manny just started. I said, jesus, Manny just doing everything, man. I see Manny in Africa.
DJ Envy
Use DJ for 85, everybody.
Manny Fresh
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Juvenile
That. He making. He get his money.
Manny Fresh
I'm out here.
DJ Envy
Like the record, one more round, right? It's such a different sound, but it feel like. It feel like, you know, that. That. That. That stubborn soul that's coming from South Carolina right now, was that. That's why you did that?
Juvenile
No, no, my guy. My guy Bri is from Nashville. Right. So my relationship with Nashville is high and back to that ass up because that's where we recorded them at. So I always. Nashville. Oh, man. My son, Nashville, always feel like that's home for me trying to stop this. So Nashville always felt like I'm one of them. So I said, you know what? I'm gonna do a song directly strictly for Nashville. And I got my guy Brio on there doing it. He did his thing. They did the track and everything for me. They mixed. They did everything. I just rapped on it and it came when I heard it. I said, damn, it does have that southern. It does have that feel to it.
Manny Fresh
I love songs like that.
Juvenile
When you're making music, you never know how it's gonna come out until you fin. So it was one of them things. People gonna have their analysis of it, and hopefully they all like it.
DJ Envy
You making records like that?
Juvenile
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Okay.
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Manny Fresh
The crazy thing is the dude Raymond, that's my roadie, you know, he was just kind of singing around, you know, and I'm like, bro, you. You really. You know, you really know what you're doing. So I just started cutting songs like that on him and, you know, and they coming out, and I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, bro, yeah. And that's. That's fun for me when it's musicianship and in it. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, bro, I kind of. This. This my lane right now. So you're gonna hear a lot of them from me, bro.
Host
Did you said we might be getting the cash money? No limit tour. That's happening.
Manny Fresh
Yeah. Yeah, that could happen.
Host
Yeah, could happen.
Manny Fresh
I mean, we're in negotiations.
Juvenile
You know how negotiations go.
Charlamagne Tha God
A lot of people on that tour
Juvenile
to get paid until we get that
Charlamagne Tha God
bag mad at you. Well, congratulations.
DJ Envy
We. We barely got the verses. How y' all going to do it to.
Manny Fresh
I mean, hey,
Host
Everybody we expected to see at the verses will be on this tour.
Juvenile
We come to. We come to Breakfast Club to elevate our businesses, bring our up.
DJ Envy
I just remember when I heard you say, I think it was with a drink champ somewhere. You was like, you almost didn't do Versus.
Juvenile
I'm like, well, wait, hold up. I'm the biggest Lil Wayne fan of yours. I don't know if you see me. I campaign all the time because I think Wayne is the greatest rapper of all time. I don't care who they say. I always put him at One, you know, when Wayne don't show up, you damn right I got a problem. You know, how we going to do a cash money versus no limit? And we don't have our machine, we don't have our Uzi with us. Yeah. I was like, look, if Wayne don't do it, I ain't doing it. But my man Swiss B, shout out to Swiss Beast and Timberland. They called me and gave me a long. Gave me a long speech on why I should do it. And I thought about. I said, you know what? I'm gonna go ahead on and do it. Especially when I found out what the reasons was my guidance show up. Sorry.
Chelsea Handler
And then the fans. The fans, yeah.
Juvenile
You know, but I wish we would have did it in New Orleans. So that's why we still should be having it. We still should. We still got more verses to do. Because it definitely should have happened in New Orleans. I agree.
DJ Envy
You insisted. That record after the verses, the one on your album.
Juvenile
No, no, it was before the verses. Okay, okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
That record tough, too.
Chelsea Handler
This one I can't wait for. I can't wait for the tour. Cause, look, yo, I was on. I've never seen nothing like this. I saw. I did a couple shows with you. I was happy as hell that I got to do that. But I was at one of the stops and they had messed up your sound. And you had a lot. You was headlining. So you did, like, you closed out the show. You were so mad. You was like, fuck it. Y' all can just cut it off. And you performed the rest of your acapella and everybody was singing with you.
Juvenile
Like, every one of them.
Chelsea Handler
Every one of them guys, everybody went crazy. This man performed like, what, nine, ten songs without the music? And everybody was singing. I was like, oh, this is great.
Juvenile
Now, see, that's what I need. You know, my. That's what you do. Positivity. That's positive. That's like. Now y' all heard that? Go buy my tickets, man. I'm gonna sing my damn song.
Charlamagne Tha God
Congratulations. The 27th.
DJ Envy
Okay. March.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. Don't say dope album.
Juvenile
The 26th at 12:00'. Clock.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, the 26th.
Juvenile
My birthday or the 26th.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, the 26th at midnight.
Juvenile
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Make sure you get the album. And check out their podcast, still 400 podcast. We appreciate you guys for joining.
DJ Envy
Glad y' all represent for the old the folks. Man, you got your stick all over my Dior sweater. You want your head pulled and your ass smack real hard? You going to find out like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about right there.
Juvenile
Listen. What you want a young riding on a four wheeler or you want a grown man who could drive pole in you? That's the one.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's Manny Fresh. It's the Breakfast Club.
Juvenile
Good morning. Hold up.
DJ Envy
Every day I wake up.
Manny Fresh
Wake your ass up.
DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club. Y' all finished or y' all done?
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Date: March 11, 2026
Guests: Juvenile & Mannie Fresh
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
This energetic episode of The Breakfast Club centers on New Orleans hip-hop icons Juvenile and Mannie Fresh. They join the hosts to discuss their latest joint ventures: new music (the album "Boiling Point"), launching the "Still 400 Podcast," and honoring New Orleans culture. The conversation is candid and wide-ranging, giving honest reflections on artistic evolution, generational bridges in hip-hop, the enduring magic of Cash Money Records, and advice for younger artists.
Juvenile:
"I'm really not trying to chase a fan. I'm doing this for me and my people, and that's it." ([07:11])
“People got mad at me when I didn’t put that album out. So I’m glad it’s coming out, and it’s coming out on my birthday. So we really gonna cut up.” ([07:38])
“I’m trying to bring fun back, bro. You know, our era was fun...” ([09:08])
“It’s been so many artists that said that. ... I can’t. That was something special about that moment, that day, how it went down.” ([13:49])
Mannie Fresh:
“Sometimes, you know one of them that’s gonna be a hit. ... I was like, this one is gonna be a hit.” ([15:21])
“A lot of cats got some humor going on inside that they don’t let people know. ... So that’s what we try to do on our show.” ([18:53])
Juvenile:
“We don’t own this... There’s no rules. So stop trying to make a rule.” ([27:07])
Juvenile:
“If we had social media in our era… we would have way more money, way more revenue than we have now.” ([30:56])
“It’s the only real 24-hour city in America... We sell alcohol 24/7. ... We celebrate the dead. We live to celebrate.” (Juvenile, [38:06])
On why realness wins:
“Y’all don’t want the new version of us. They just like, do what you do, and we all right with it.” (Mannie Fresh, [09:16])
On musical DNA:
“It’s like hearing Marvin Gaye … it’s timeless. Why? Because it’s simple and it’s the same that’s been used in music for forever and forever.” (Mannie Fresh, [10:33])
On celebrating, not mourning, the dead:
“Instead of mourning… we celebrate the things that person would have did if they were still here. That’s why we call it second line—the first line is the band and the second line is the people.” (Juvenile, [41:11])
On business regrets:
“One of my biggest failures… probably the Flow Rider record. … That was a fumble.” (Juvenile, [33:29])
On staying humble:
“One of the sweet things about New Orleans: you will never be a star to New Orleans.” (Mannie Fresh, [38:49])
Juvenile and Mannie Fresh deliver a genuine and entertaining conversation, blending nostalgia, humor, and hard-won wisdom. Their openness about creative insecurities, industry missteps, and the overpowering influence of New Orleans culture make the episode a must-listen for hip-hop heads of any age. The episode showcases two legends poised between honoring legacy and writing new chapters—still having fun, still competitive, and still schooling the game.
Don’t miss:
Album "Boiling Point" drops March 26 (Juvenile's birthday). Listen in for more, and check out the Still 400 Podcast!