INTERVIEW: Keke Palmer & Boots Riley on Capitalism, Hollywood & New Film 'I Love Boosters'

Summary

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The Breakfast Club: Interview with Keke Palmer & Boots Riley on Capitalism, Hollywood, and "I Love Boosters"

Podcast: The Breakfast Club (The Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts)
Episode Air Date: May 22, 2026
Guests: Keke Palmer, Boots Riley
Hosts: DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious, Lauren LaRosa

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Episode Overview

This energetic and incisive episode features Keke Palmer and Boots Riley discussing their new film "I Love Boosters." The conversation delves deep into the socio-political themes explored in the movie—particularly capitalism, consumerism, and the nuanced morality of "boosting." The guests and hosts also reflect on the impact of Hollywood versus anti-establishment values, community organizing, class solidarity, and the personal journeys of both Palmer and Riley in the industry. While the tone remains engaging and often humorous, serious discussions about structural inequality, activism, representation, and self-worth underpin the episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Making and Themes of "I Love Boosters"

• Boots Riley’s Inspiration:

  • Boots Riley describes "I Love Boosters" as his best work to date, noting his previous work includes "Sorry to Bother You" and the TV show "I'm a Virgo" (03:53-04:01).
  • Riley grew up knowing boosters (people who sell stolen goods at reduced prices), not as one himself but as someone in a community where these actions were a "service" for those unable to afford retail prices (04:17-05:14).
  • Quote (Boots Riley, 04:20):
    "Boosters...do provide a community service. The culture that Black folks and other communities of color have influences a lot of the big fashion houses, and then it gets sold back to us...So, yeah, it's illegal, but the morality is the same as what's happening in capitalism anyway, right?"

• Morality and Capitalism:

  • Riley and Palmer discuss how boosting—and the movie itself—reflect the inherent contradictions and systemic issues in capitalism, where poverty and illegal business are structurally necessary (07:06-09:24).
  • Riley frames boosting as a logical response to poverty and underlines how crime narratives are historically weaponized to demonize Black communities.

2. Exposing Capitalism and Systemic Inequality

• On Organizing and Change:

  • Boots Riley, a lifelong activist, expounds on collective power, strikes, and the importance of organizing—not just popularity or individual success (05:29-06:14, 09:49-11:10).
  • Quote (Boots Riley, 05:29):
    "The working class can have a say over what happens with that capital. We can have a movement where we control the capital collectively."

• Intersection of Race and Class:

  • Riley explains how capitalism always requires an "unemployed army" to keep wages low, and racism is used to justify and maintain this poverty:
    (27:14-30:14)
  • Quote (Boots Riley, 29:18):
    "Capitalism must have unemployment in order to exist...so you’re gonna have illegal business, and that’s built into it...that’s where capitalism necessitates poverty, which necessitates illegal business and what we call crime."

• Consumerism & Image Culture:

  • The group dissects how consumerism and image culture intersect with capitalism, especially for marginalized communities seeking value and agency (30:14-32:30).

3. Reflections on Success, Hollywood, and Identity

• Hollywood’s Contradictions:

  • Riley addresses the contradictions of anti-establishment artists finding success within mainstream platforms, stressing the need to work "inside the system" to spread ideas (11:10-11:55).
  • Quote (Boots Riley, 11:10):
    "Everything is a contradiction...I’m not trying to go out in the woods and be like, 'I’m free from society.' I want to help change the world, not just be free of it."

• Keke Palmer on Collaboration & Growth:

  • Palmer shares her excitement reading Riley’s script and how their conversations made her feel like "in school with a professor" (11:58-12:32).
  • Both reflect on learning from each other and add that, despite the serious themes, the film is fun, joyful, and full of optimism (12:32-14:12).

4. Community, Solidarity, and Organizing

• Necessity of Direct Action:

  • They discuss the importance of going "to the people," as in old-school music and film tours (14:12-14:50), and reference giving out free gas in LA as community outreach during tough economic times (14:54-15:15).
  • Quote (Keke Palmer, 14:57):
    "We boosted some gas for people...it was just so dope to be out there with the people."

• Building Multiethnic and Class Alliances:

  • The film aims to show various communities connected by the "same contradiction"—capitalism—rather than isolated by their differences (15:29-17:18).
  • Quote (Keke Palmer, 17:21):
    "It's affecting us all absolutely in our own way...Really, it's the same issue affecting us all."

• Fear and the Limits of Activism:

  • Palmer and Riley note the challenges Millennials face with broader organizing, given fear, burnout, and the risk of martyrdom—how organizing can/should evolve (19:24-20:11).

5. Personal Journeys and Performative Identity

• Surviving Stardom & Staying Grounded:

  • Keke Palmer discusses the pressures of child stardom and always being the breadwinner for her family, crediting faith, family, and community for keeping her grounded (41:58-43:24).
  • Quote (Keke Palmer, 42:12):
    "Honestly, God...I grew up in a church, my father's a deacon...Even when I had to go underground, I knew I had God with me."

• The "Keke Palmer" Persona:

  • Palmer talks candidly about the tension between her public persona and her authentic self, noting that "Keke Palmer" is a character she created for survival in the industry (38:04-40:45).
  • Quote (Keke Palmer, 38:04):
    "One of my most popular characters is Keke Palmer—it is, you know, your girl—but that's a character I constructed...for my ability to move through the world."

• Bringing It Full Circle:

  • Palmer expresses gratitude for being able to use her platform to give back and inspire younger creatives, seeing herself as a bridge for opportunity and representation (35:00-36:05).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Boots Riley (04:20): "So, yeah, it's illegal, but the morality is the same as what's happening in capitalism anyway, right?"
• Charlamagne Tha God (05:14): "Your films always try to expose how capitalism psychologically reshapes people. Is that the thing that scares you most?"
• Keke Palmer (11:58): "Man, this dude got a lot going on in his head... It was like I was in school with a professor, this is my favorite professor, you know what I'm saying?"
• Boots Riley (29:18): "Capitalism must have unemployment in order to exist...so you’re gonna have illegal business, and that’s built into it."
• Keke Palmer (14:57): "We boosted some gas for people...because gas was $7. They tripping in LA."
• Keke Palmer (42:12): "Honestly, God...I grew up in a church, my father's a deacon...I knew I had God with me, you know, so there were—I remember the moment when I was 17 and I was like, nobody can know me because it was unsafe..."
• Boots Riley (43:24): "Even without the child stardom thing, you have what a lot of people in Hollywood don't have—your family around you...advising you and protecting you. That community right there...I would wish upon anyone to have."

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Important Timestamps

• Film Discussion & Boots’ Background: 03:41–09:49
• Racism, Poverty, & Media Framing: 08:09–09:49
• Organizing, Capital, and Hope: 09:49–11:55
• Keke Palmer on Script & Collaboration: 11:55–14:12
• Old-school Outreach/Direct Action: 14:12–15:15
• Intersection of Communities & Capitalism: 15:13–18:38
• Fear/Activism/Movement-Building: 19:24–20:11
• Consumerism, Value & Individualism: 30:14–33:25
• Keke Palmer on Performing Identity: 38:04–43:24
• Surviving Stardom, Family, Faith: 41:58–44:09
• Film Release Details / Closing: 44:12–44:51

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Summary Takeaways

• "I Love Boosters" explores the cycles of poverty, the contradictions of capitalism, and the culture around "boosting" as both survival and resistance.
• The guests and hosts highlight personal and historical connections to activism, showing how community, class, and creative work intersect.
• Keke Palmer’s reflections on her career, persona, and the meaning of service and authenticity add a deeply personal and empowering layer to the conversation.
• Both Boots Riley and Keke Palmer advocate for optimism, solidarity, and small-scale change as pathways to wider systemic transformation.
• The episode is a potent mix of humor, vulnerability, trenchant social analysis, and encouragement for listeners to critically engage with the systems that shape their lives.

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Transcript

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold up. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.

[Boots Riley]

You don't finish or. Y' all done?

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lon Laros is here as well. We got some special guests in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed.

[DJ Envy]

We have Kiki Palmer and Boots Riley.

[Boots Riley]

Welcome.

[Demi Moore]

Good morning.

[Boots Riley]

How y' all feeling?

[Keke Palmer]

I'm good, man. For you guys,

[DJ Envy]

She came here.

[Boots Riley]

It's cold in here.

[Keke Palmer]

It was freezing. I don't know why y' all had

[Demi Moore]

it so cold like that. I know.

[Keke Palmer]

Tripping, but, you know, I tried to be cute. That's what happened when you try to be cute before you think about being warm.

[Lauren LaRosa (Ad Segment)]

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[Keke Palmer]

Thanks.

[DJ Envy]

New movie. I love boosters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Keke Palmer]

It's so exciting.

[DJ Envy]

J gonna love this movie.

[Lauren LaRosa (Ad Segment)]

Oh, yeah.

[Demi Moore]

That was my first job, y'.

[Keke Palmer]

All.

[Boots Riley]

I know.

[Lauren LaRosa (Ad Segment)]

That's right.

[Boots Riley]

This is my best work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, your best work.

[Boots Riley]

My best work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you feel like that about every film or.

[Boots Riley]

I've only done three things. Yeah. I'm a Virgo. And this one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I missed. I'm a Virgo. Damn.

[Boots Riley]

Yeah. It's a TV show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Got you.

[Boots Riley]

Yeah. Yeah. Y' all didn't have a song.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you hear?

[DJ Envy]

We always have,

[Boots Riley]

so.

[DJ Envy]

So why I love boosters. Were you a booster back in the day and you was like, this is something that.

[Boots Riley]

Nah, I was a broke rapper trying to stay fly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay?

[Boots Riley]

And so, yeah, so you. You gotta. You gotta know some boosters, you know what I'm saying? And. And also seeing the fact that they do provide a community service, like, you know, the. You know, the. The culture that black folks have and other communities of color have influences. You know, a lot of the. The big fashion houses, and then it gets sold back to us. So that's with a lot of culture. And right now, and Actually, for a long time, people have not been getting paid enough. So these are services, you know, back to school clothes to just whatever, you know. And so, yeah, it's illegal, but the morality is the same as the. As what's happening in capitalism anyway, Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I love about your films. Your films always try to expose how capitalism psychologically reshapes people. Like, is that. Is that the thing that scares you the most in society?

[Boots Riley]

I don't know. It's. I'm. I'm not as scared as I am hopeful.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay.

[Boots Riley]

Because, you know, I do see a path to where we can change things. And that's like, what my art has always been about, you know, is the fact that, you know, we know how power works, right? Power doesn't come just from popularity or whatever. It comes from capital. You know, that's what the, you know, that's what moves the. The needle. And the working class can have a say over what happens with that capital. We can have a movement where you. Where. Where you. Where we control the capital collectively. Right? And so that's strikes, work stoppages, things like that, you know.

[DJ Envy]

Have you seen Boosters Crazy recently? Right? Growing up as a kid, boosters used to go to Macy's, right, And they put some stuff under and then they run out, right? It was one or two, but now it seems like they're getting ridiculous.

[Boots Riley]

Like they're.

[DJ Envy]

It's like teams of people running in stores, kicking down doors and.

[Demi Moore]

See, I don't see. I wouldn't consider that boosting. See, like, I like how. I like how it's presented in the movie. Cause. Although, yes, it is a little. And you know. Yeah, but I love. I did say illegal.

[Keke Palmer]

Illegal.

[Demi Moore]

But what I was doing when I did it. Cause I grew up in the hood, you know, a lot of people couldn't afford the luxury, you know, the luxurious things for their kids going back to school. Moms couldn't even buy school supplies, anything like that. So I wasn't just stealing clothes just to put them on. I was stealing them and I was selling them at a cheaper price. Like even, you know, notebooks, dividers, everything that the mom needed. You know what I mean?

[Keke Palmer]

You can't, you know.

[Boots Riley]

Yeah. And we focus on clothes in the movie, but this household, good that people have. Did you have somebody with a laptop in it?

[DJ Envy]

She did it a couple of months ago.

[Demi Moore]

I didn't. I.

[DJ Envy]

You said you did it.

[Demi Moore]

You want to send you chapstick just to see if I could steal, you know, see if I still have it.

[Keke Palmer]

You know what I mean?

[Demi Moore]

It was just a little chapstick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kiki, did you have any experience with stealing boosting before this movie?

[Keke Palmer]

I only had tried to steal something once when I was like five. I tried to steal Reese cups.

[Demi Moore]

Oh yeah.

[Keke Palmer]

And my sister told on me. She was a snitch.

[Boots Riley]

That's cute. My sister was a snitch.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah. I couldn't believe that I was like, who I am.

[Boots Riley]

I don't think that's boosting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that's shoplifting.

[Demi Moore]

You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Boosting is different.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Have you ever bought from boosters before?

[Keke Palmer]

Like, as a kid, I didn't know they were boosters, but you know, that's all my. I was a kid, so that's all my family could afford, you know. So you go through the little neighborhood sales, basically, you know what I mean? But I wasn't like knowing that it was a booster. I never knew the name of a booster until I watched Baby Boy and I was like, oh, that's who those people are. You know, but my aunties at the nails, at their hair salons and stuff. I mean, I didn't know there was a name for that. I thought those people just selling us stuff.

[Boots Riley]

And you know, recently it's been in the news a lot like you just talked about. But if you check out the Intercept, which is an investigative journalist site with award winning investigative journalists, they expose that all of these police unions came together in the wake of the George Floyd protests and hired publicists and said, hey, we're going to stop talking about police murder and all of that and we're just gonna hype up the idea that crime is rising. And in a lot of the places where they're saying it is, it actually wasn't. But there were more news stories. And then you started seeing Instagram sites hyping those things up. And a lot of those Instagram sites had T shirt sales. I don't see people wearing the T shirts, but they tell me that they're wearing a lot of the. They're selling a lot of shirts. So they, they kept this news cycle going and it's the same thing that's been going on in the early 1900s. You always had these things come that, that said, like negro crime wave. And that's what led to the, those first Atlanta race massacres. And that's what led to the, the, the black Wall Street Tulsa race massacre. They kept being Negro crime wave. Negro crime wave.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They always demonize them.

[Boots Riley]

Yeah. And it's part. And obviously crime happens as we're saying in the, in the movie, I mean, because poverty is necessitated by capitalism, so you're gonna have illegal business. However, you know, however they use it as the scapegoat for what's wrong with, with the world. Instead of talking about the boosting that's happening every day. The boosting that's happened when you go to work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, you have a background in organizing and activism, right? Boo.

[State Farm Narrator]

Yeah.

[Boots Riley]

Yeah. I started when I was 14 and 15. I joined the Progressive Labor Party, which is a disciplined communist party. And I, you know, I decided I, I should get good at rapping. I was not good when I decided to like, people were like, you sure? You know,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

that's worse than somebody saying you whack you.

[Boots Riley]

No, no. I mean, I knew and I knew I was not good, right? So, but, but, you know, I knew that you could figure out how to do stuff and figure that out. And I studied it and, you know, pat myself on the back. I did get known as a lyricist. So, you know, that it was with this idea of putting these ideas out there that we could have a different world. One where the people democratically control the wealth that we create with our labor. So that's the goal. But just also put in into context where we're at right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love the fact that you put, you know, these messages in the art, but does success in Hollywood ever conflict with like anti establishment values?

[Boots Riley]

You know, everything is a contradiction. And so, but the thing is, like, that's where we at. We're in this world, right? So we can't get out of it. Right. Without working together. And, and so I need to get. Put the stuff out there on, on a platform. And that platform is created by the world that we're in. And I'm not, I'm not trying to go out in the woods and be like, I'm free from society, you know, because even if I could do that, which I don't think you can, that's. That's not the point. You know, I want, I want to help change the world, not just be free of it.

[DJ Envy]

Now, Keke, what was your first thought when you read the script?

[Keke Palmer]

Man, this dude got a lot going on in his head. You know what I mean? I already was a fan, you know, and I was just really excited that I was gonna have the opportunity to work with him. So I remember just being like, I really wanna talk to him and see, you know, get to know him and everything. So I read the script, loved it. And then I remember we met up, we had quick phone conversation and then we met up for lunch and we talked for like four hours. Because he was just. I mean, you see him, you know what I'm saying? And I was just immediately, just blown away. He was. It was like I was in school with a professor. This is my favorite professor, you know what I'm saying? Learning about life. We was talking about everything, and I knew that I had to do the movie. So it was, it was pretty, Pretty

[Boots Riley]

easy, you know, and she's giving me a lot of credit. But if you sit and talk to Keke, she's like a professor. I'm always like, damn, I need to just be quiet, let her talk about the movie, you know, because, yeah, you know, she has a way of condensing ideas into something that. Where you're looking at the main contradiction in the main conflict and it's, it's understandable. And I think over the years people are going to start talking about her as a philosopher, you know, because, you know, because I do think that, you know, she's one of our, Our. Our. She's one of the most loved beings on the, on the planet right now. Obviously, like Kiki, everybody wants to, you see all these things, people, but. But she is really putting herself out there and looking to do good work. So I, I love being able to work with her. Now, what I will say about this, we're talking a lot about a lot of serious things, but this movie is fun. Is. Is a. You know, the whole thing is there's optimism connected to these ideas. So it comes with joy, it comes with hilarity. And I. I've played this movie 35 times. I've watched this movie 35 times on tour. I took the old school independent music route and going college to go college, community screenings, all this kind of stuff. And you know, it's like people laughing too much over the next line, that sort of a thing. And, you know, just, just it. That's one of the reasons I say,

[DJ Envy]

I think that's always missing it and I tell it to everybody. Right. I don't want to say back in the day, but back in the day people were more hand in hand, right? They were going to colleges, they were

[Keke Palmer]

going to high school.

[DJ Envy]

They were going to see people touch people. Not just worried.

[Boots Riley]

We didn't have an Internet, you know,

[DJ Envy]

I mean, they were worried about, let me see somebody, let me get a reaction. They were going hand in hand, still handing out flyers. And I feel like we miss that so much. We're so used to this. And the Algorithm and what hits. But I think when you go to meet people, where they at, it's so true. It's better than anything else. I just remember being in Hampton and seeing the. From Big to Jay Z coming on campus and what that means to me to now. It's like everybody's asking, is there a check involved? If no check, I ain't coming. And I think that means more to people than anything else.

[Keke Palmer]

I remember like this.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You got to do that, though. Like, you gotta touch the people with something like this.

[Keke Palmer]

I felt like that when we boosted the gas in la.

[Boots Riley]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Keke Palmer]

We boosted some gas for people. Like, we were giving out free gas. And it was just so dope to be out there with the people. We was just really out there talking and kicking in people getting some gas, you know, because gas was $7. They tripping in LA.

[Demi Moore]

Damn.

[Keke Palmer]

Yes.

[Demi Moore]

So, yeah, boost the gas.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah, we needed that. We needed that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How did you choose which groups, like, which people you were going to have a conversation with? Like, you have, like, black community and our things, and then you talk about, like, Asian community, and then there's like, an intersection. How did.

[Boots Riley]

Are you talking about when we did the tour?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, no.

[Keke Palmer]

Talking about Poppy Legal. We talking about isa.

[Boots Riley]

You know, I mean, it's hard to break down when it started. But I was thinking about, you know, the production of things and the distribution of things, because, you know, boosting is not outside of capitalism. It's part of capitalism, right? And so it's just a certain distribution network. So while I was thinking about the services that. That boosters provide, I was started thinking about how things are. Are made of other things and really are made of people's time. Right? Like, all this stuff we got, somebody made it, somebody spent time on it. And that time, they might have been, rather you know, hanging out with their family. So that's usually what we're selling. This is the time that we would be doing something else. So I started thinking about that, and so I started thinking about, you know, the factories that make it. Right. Obviously you could go back to when people are, you know, harvesting the fibers and things like that, but, you know, the factories that make it. And I was thinking about how to put these groups together.

[Keke Palmer]

And there's a thing that we talk about in the movie where it's like we're all on one side of the same contradiction. So I think it's easy, whoever your collective group is, to just be focused on how things are affecting you. But what I love what the movie does, is it actually showcases how everybody's being affected in their own different way by the same thing. And how are we actually being activated together? You know, you have the Demi Moore's character where we have Kristy Smee, she's the big bad villain. But then when you see Corvette, my character with the Velvet gang, and you see how quick she is to be like, yo, give me the thing from Poppy Liu come from China. And she like, yo, I got the teleporter. And she like, yo, give me this so we can get what we get done. And you already can see that the same mechanism is happening. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. When you say the same side, what do you say? The same.

[Keke Palmer]

One side of the same contradiction.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that contradiction. Capitalism, the system.

[Keke Palmer]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

[Keke Palmer]

And it's affecting us all absolutely in our own way. And it make us think because we're in our own problems. And that is that this is just me. But really it's the same issue affecting us all. And I think that ties back to the whole thing Boots is saying is that if we can get outside of just ours, you know, then we can actually see that the people around us are all dealing with the same thing in their own fashion.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ours eventually gonna impact you. Ours eventually gonna impact you. I was having this conversation yesterday and I was talking about how like, you know, middle class white people are the ones that should be speaking out the most right now, because the America that they've loved their whole life is going to be completely different in five to 10 years if we don't figure out, you know, how to take care of the least of us.

[Keke Palmer]

I was like, a country is only as good as their. As their worst person.

[Boots Riley]

And mind you, some of those middle class white people are making like 22,000 a year or something like that, Right? And but like, they're able to say they're middle class by looking at black folks in communities of color and being like, oh, I'm different. Right. So there is a. That middle class is act. The real middle class is actually smaller and they're really just the working class. Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But those are the people who should be able to say, you know what? America would be better if billionaires paid their faces.

[Boots Riley]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, a lot of the way that they ended up electing that people ended up electing Trump was that group thought, oh, he's like a class traitor, he's in the ruling class, but he's going to help us out, you know, so even a lot of the Ideas that I talk about, people agree with already, like, but they just don't use the same terms maybe or whatever. And you know, everybody knows that. Everybody knows the idea that, that, okay, quote, unquote, power is money is power, right? And they know they don't have power. And so we know all of these ideas, but we haven't seen, a lot of us haven't seen a movement that we think could win.

[Keke Palmer]

Right?

[Boots Riley]

And that's the, that's, that's the big difference.

[Keke Palmer]

And I think there's so much fear around what it looks like to actually create a movement, especially when you think about the different leaders. You know, usually there's a leader, there's a group, there's somebody that's trudging the past. And I think there's a lot of fear behind that. You know, the end of the day, you see so much stuff, I know with the Millennial, we don't see so much dismantled, you know, so it gets to a point where you're like, well, if I'm just gonna stand out there, am I just gonna get got? And that's it. And then y' all gonna just name a holiday after me? Like, what does it actually mean for us all to be on the front line, especially in this day and age? Cause I get to the point where it's like, I don't want any more of my friends dying. I don't wanna say, let's go out there now you in jail or you separated from your family. Cause ICE came and got you. You know what I mean? So it gets to a point of how do you think the way that we think about organizing in community, we, you know, it has to be evolved more than just being out there, standing out there. It's like, how do we actually get together? How do we plan?

[Boots Riley]

Well, I think, I think a blueprint is what they did in Minnesota, right? Like, you saw people, you saw them have hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people, who knows, come out in the dead of winter when it was cold and for, to, to help folks that are targeted by ice. And, and, and they got some traction. It was a one day thing. So it was, it was, you know, part of it was symbolic, but it did like lay a blueprint of what we could do. I mean, you put it like this. Obviously we all know that money moves the needle. In Italy, they had prime minister. They have a prime minister that's as right wing, or maybe more right wing than Donald Trump, if that's possible. And she was totally on, is totally on board with Israel and the genocide that they're committing and the US is committing with them. But they had a general strike and they shut down the ports, shut down all this trade, and they forced her to send out the navy to protect the flotilla to Gaza. Now that's where the lever is. It doesn't matter if you get 30 million people out on the street. You know, it's about the levers of capitalism. What, how does that work? Same thing you look at, like if

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the market crashed tomorrow, every totally different conversation

[Boots Riley]

in a minute. And you look at Iran like, what, what happened there? Like the, the most forceful thing that Iran was able to do is shut the straight of Hormuz money. Like it wasn't artillery shells, it was money. Right. And that's the closest thing. And the working class in the US we could make a bunch of straights of horror moves as far as money loss and make that happen. We're just not organized there right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me ask both of y', all, when you look at America today, do you see a country evolving or just finding newer ways to market? Like the same system?

[Keke Palmer]

I think, I mean, I imagine yes, to some degree there's some evolution. But I do feel like we've seen a lot of the regurgitation of the new face of the same thing, you know, And I don't really know how you, how you get out of that. You know, I feel like we talk about that in the movie too, where there's this idea where I don't know that there's like one click of the thing where you're gonna have a big solution. There's boom, it's done. And I think that the fact that that doesn't exist actually is what stops us from moving. But there can be small things that are done that can make your life better or the people around you's life better tomorrow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

Yo, what up, y'? All? It's DJ Envy from the Breakfast Club. Now check this out. The first phone call that ever happened happened over 150 years ago. 150 years. That's before any of this. Before radio, before social media, before all the ways we stay connected. Today, that one call really started everything. And fast forward to now. It's springtime, the weather's breaking, people outside vibes are right again. Thank God. And it got me thinking. Who haven't you talked to in a minute? And you know, through all these years and all these conversations, AT&T has been there, connecting people in meaningful ways. This is more than a story of technological innovation. It's really a story about human connection. Real people, real moments, and real relationships. So we celebrate over 150 years of connection. Let this be your reminder. Don't wait. Make that call. Send that text. Pull up on somebody you care about. Because at the end of the day, those connections, that's what really matters.

[Keke Palmer]

Connecting changes everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lauren LaRosa (Ad Segment)]

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[Keke Palmer]

and it almost is like it's a way that keeps us back to think that I've got to do this big thing when really I could just help myself, the person next to me, you know, I can help the community of where I am today. I don't have to think about what's happening all the way across the world that maybe I don't have access to, but I can do something in my community right now. And that's something that I also do love about the movie, is that it kind of rephrases this idea that you're gonna change that you got to change the world as a whole. You got it? You know what I mean? But it's like you can change your

[Boots Riley]

world, you know, and it'll have an effect on, on that world. Right? It'll have a. Because, well, I don't want to give up the movie but, you know, yeah, it's all connected and I want, you

[DJ Envy]

know, I want to ask. Just to go back for a second. We talked about the movie a lot. We broke it down. But where did the inspiration come from, the movie? What was in your life during the time that was like, cool.

[Boots Riley]

Well, 20 years ago I wrote a song called I Love Boosters and it's on the album Pick a Bigger Weapon and, and it was so. It's more. This wasn't a. That song didn't inspire the movie, but the inspiration came from the same place. And really. And it's like I was saying, like there, there's a lot of folks getting villainized and being used as a scapegoat for the problems that exist in our world. And really what happens is, is that capitalism must have unemployment in order to exist. If the unemployment rate goes too low, you'll see pundits complaining and worrying because how they keep wages low is say, oh, we got all these people to replace you. So the, they need a, they need an army of unemployed workers to keep wages low now because they need that. If they got an army of unemployed workers, then they got an army of unemployed people who want to eat. Right? So you're gonna have illegal business. And, and that's built into it. So capitalism necessitates poverty, which necessitates illegal business and what we call crime. Because this is very arbitrary what we call in crime. Right? And the, and, and so if, if you have that, then you, then you need. How do you tell the whole working class that hey, the system you're in means some of y' all gotta be poor, some of y' all gotta not have housing. You don't, you say it's all merit based. And, and you say, hey, the reason that these folks are poor is because of their culture. And so you place it all on black folks or people of color, even though the poverty is going all over the place. And you like, and, and so they can say like, look, the reason they're poor is because their culture doesn't teach them the right things or their culture is deficient. And that's where the, the, that's where, where capitalism necessitates poverty and illegal business, where capital and, and therefore necessitates racist tropes. Right? Because that way you tell that you even make the white working class be like, well, I'm not like them, you know, like my, I'm, I'm just waiting for my, I'm just right now temporarily messed up. So what we have right now is. And in the song I talk about mainly black women because that's what I encountered as boosters. Right. And obviously it happens all over the place. Right. But, but so, but what also what gets villainized are black women. So, so that's what the song, that's what the, the movie is uplifting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not just capitalism though, right? In the movie, it's consumerism and image culture too.

[Boots Riley]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do those roles play?

[Boots Riley]

I mean, I, I look at consumerism as just a byproduct, you know? You know, it's not, you know, and I don't really know exactly.

[Keke Palmer]

I think it's the idea of value too. Right. We were talking a lot about the way that people are trying to obtain value for themselves. Really. People want agency, but a lot of times because of consumerism telling you that this is what will give you value, you believe that's how you're going to find that agency.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I think is image.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah. For sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In the labels.

[Boots Riley]

You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just to feel better about yourself.

[Boots Riley]

And, and our movie does touch on that, but it's not really about that as much as it is. I mean the thing that we do have in there is Demi Moore lives in this crazy place that's based On a thing in. In the Bay Area. In the Bay Area, we got this Millennium Tower that people paid millions of dollars for each condo, and it was built wrong. It's like, leaning on, like, a couple inches, but. So we exaggerate that. But that's this arbitrary notion of value that's placed on. On there. And, you know, I don't know if the movie. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the movie talks about consumerism. But in the. It's. It's not. That's not really the. The. The what we're putting as the problem. It's more like a thing that happens.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah. I was just gonna say, I guess the interesting thing is why using that as a portal into talking about this. Why using fashion as a portal to get into a discussion about that.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Demi Moore]

And.

[Boots Riley]

And Corvette, Kiki's character is. Idolizes Demi's characters. So she wants to be that. So that's more like, you know what it is. She wants to be that designer. She. That. That is doing what. What. What Demi Moore's character, Christy Smith is doing. And so she's into it. That brand more because probably how it is. It makes you feel like it's a. It's getting close to freedom.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Boots Riley]

Right. Like, people want a life where they could do whatever they want to do, where they can control.

[Keke Palmer]

I think that's why we get so weird in this time where it's like, people do want to be CEOs, people do want to be founders, but then at the same time, there's this idea where you're on that climb and we see Corvette go through this. And even as an entertainer, I understand that. I feel like any of us will. Where it's like, at some point, when does this. When does this not become serviceable to everybody around me? On my climb to trying to be great or trying to make sure that I have the agency I need or the freedom that I think I need at some point. And we really see this mirroring happen between Corvette and Demi Moore's character, Christie Smith, where in Corvette's world, she has to see how she's now. What she's idolizing, what it's actually asking her to operate from, which is individualism. That's what capitalism says. In order to be where you want to be, in order to be that founder, be that entrepreneur, be that person. It's almost like you got to leave people behind or you got to step on heads.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you ask. When you ask the question, it stops being serviceable when you stop being of service to other People.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, and yes. I think that there's a moment in the movie too, where you realize that that is the real power and understand it. Because the whole time I feel like you're. It's like you're on this dream chase, but at the same time, the dream is because you want the power over your life, but also the power to make your situation better. But then you realize kind of the flip on, you know, service and that

[Keke Palmer]

she's ignoring everybody around her that's going through the same thing. That's what capitalism also does because we are so so in survival mode. We not looking to the right and the left and see everybody's in survival mode. Like, I love the conversation that she has with Naomi Ackee's character because we also are in this fight where it's like, the way I'm fighting is the best way to fight. Well, the way I'm fighting is the best way to fight. Everybody don't fight with their hands. Some people fight with their minds. Some people gonna go into the office and work and learn what they need to learn and then take it back to the field. Everybody doesn't do it the same way. And Naomi's whole thing is I'm making sure my kids are good while you out here willing to put your life on the line, willing to chase after a billionaire to, I don't know what you're doing. I'm making sure we're good. I'm making sure the community is. This is the way that I'm fighting. This is the way that I'm choosing to survive. And so I really love that because I think we're always trying to teach each other and tell each other, you know, so harshly how you need to fight for the community when we're all just trying to get by. I'm just trying to make it through the day, you know, and sometimes that's sitting on the couch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was gonna ask you, Keke, did I love Booster's challenge your worldview? But it sounds like it reinforced it.

[Keke Palmer]

I feel like we've been watching you

[Lauren LaRosa]

arrive here for, like, the last, like, year. And I realized that in your conversation with Michelle Obama, like, I think you're in an era right now.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah, well, you know, I've been working in the industry for so long, and, you know, it's the difference between when institutions give you respect or acknowledge you and your community. And I think for me, I've always been defined by my community. As early as I can remember what akeeling to have always been the ones who Said, we see you. We. We. We see what you're doing. And I think at this place in my life, that's all I want to make sure that I can continue to uplift those voices. You know what I mean? That's what matters most to me. If I've been able to continue to expand and get better resources, how can I bring that back to key tv? How can I bring that back to the kids? How can I create a project that can inspire? And I do think it's a. It's a blessing because, you know, this kind of work isn't always around, you know what I'm saying? Like, this. This project, if I don't write it myself, I'm going to be hopefully lucky enough that somebody like Boots Riley writes it. That allows me to have conversations like the ones I want to have, you know, in order to have the conversations and to even make the waves or get people to get into your head like this. You have the opportunity to do something other than. You know what I mean? Which I live for that. You know, it's like, I live for that. But that's only one note of it.

[Boots Riley]

And I will say this. I. I feel like it's Kiki's best performance in the sense that, yeah, like, she does some stuff on there that I've never seen her do. Right. I saw it in things like Pimp and a few things. I saw it there. But we went for, you know, just from talking to her, I could see that she's a comedic genius. And there's parts of that comedic genius that hadn't been on film yet and that. That, you know, she gives, like, a performance that's more from, you know, it's. It's how she talks. It's not the. The cadence, like, where you.

[Keke Palmer]

It's not my character.

[Boots Riley]

Yeah. You know, it's. It's. It. It feels. I don't know. I say, like, it feels real. Right. It feels grounded.

[Keke Palmer]

Well, Keke Palmer, I did a TED talk that actually comes out today and talk about adaptive intelligence and performance as a tool that I've used to be able to survive my. My own life. And so one of my most popular characters is Keke Palmer. It is, you know, it's your girl and the guy, you know, but that is only. That's a character that I constructed, that I created for my ability to be able to move through the world and to be able to do the things I want to do. And so, yeah, when you give me the opportunity to say, let's go, let me Actually explore the other parts of my performance, my ability. I'm able to show something different.

[Boots Riley]

And you had said something to me at one point. I don't remember when it was. You were like, yeah, Boots. Everybody says that they want this other thing, but then when we get on set, they want the boom, boom, boom, you know, because there's a lot of pressures where they're like, okay, how we gonna make the money? Blah, blah, blah, this and that, you know? And so for me, I always want everybody, the whole cast, to be doing something that they've never done before, so that we feel them as a. As a character. We fall into them, you know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What about that Kiki that you. That you. You think you playing a character yourself? I was thinking the same. Kiki is the character. And what, Lauren is only human?

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah, come on. Lauren is only human. I mean, it's just like how we all show up at work, you know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, it, of course, is me, because I'm doing it, but it's. It's a. It's a character. It's also a performance. A performance. To a certain degree. I'm not. I know. I mean, maybe people do, but, you know, I'm not in my house talking about some, you know, every now and then. You know, every now and then. But it's just like. It's what you. It's what we do as performers. I'm an artist, so that's. My point of it is, is that it's an intelligence to be able to perform, to be able to pick up patterns, to know when the room needs to shift, to know when people need you to pull up more and to pull back more. But that is you servicing the room. So you're not being yourself. You're trying to make sure that the vibe is right. And head up Doodle and Keke Palmer is. That was me in my neighborhood, you know, I grew up in a very rural part of Illinois. We didn't have a lot. And so I was the one that was. Get out on the floor and dance, Kiki. You know what I mean? You gotta do. You know what I mean? Because that's what was needed.

[DJ Envy]

Do you hate that character?

[Keke Palmer]

I love that character, but that character. What I think is this state, this era that she was talking about, that's opening up. Even when I came and did just Kiki and I talked about the. It's about integration. I don't as not being fragmented in this space where people don't understand what that has Also meant to me what that's cost me and what embodiment is for me today where it takes a long time for you to realize poverty is not around over your shoulder, you know, so that's where, that's where, where I'm at. You know what I mean? I've been supporting my family since I was 12 years old. And I have no shame about that. I really, you know, it's like. But that's the way it had to be. They wasn't going to let my parents through, so the nine year old had to be able to get out there, tap dance and move. But what once was something fun that I did for my family became a character that I'm doing and living in the world and I'm not constantly embodied in it. And so then it becomes the question of what does all this mean to me? How do I also honor what that has given me, but also make sure that the person that just gets to be and that's not constantly making sure that the room is right is able to just exist. And it's funny because that's this character, Corvette. She's experiencing in a lot of ways her own version of that where she's trying to figure out how to maintain value, how to survive, who she has to be, what she has to become, what it's what she's up against. And I remember we, we had a conversation when Boots. We were talking and having conversations like I'm happy we have with you guys. And he was like, I want you to go back to that place before you reached where you are now. And I want you to be that. Be the. Be the you that was on that journey. Because Corvette hasn't figured out what you figured out.

[Demi Moore]

Yeah. When do you get. I'm sorry, so when do you actually get to be Lauren? Like when you. Does it ever get tiresome to be. Have to show up?

[Keke Palmer]

Well, luckily, because I'm talking about it and I'm able to actually start articulating and sharing that experience. I'm able to be. Right now you guys are meeting me there because I'm allowing you to. Because I'm actually, you know, I'm telling you, and we're sharing the conversation and we're able to understand it. I think in the generation we're in, it is time to start talking about what. That every entertainer is not the same or celebrity, I should say. But as an artist, like, we have to start talking about what it is to be an artist, what it is to be a person and what really happens in that in between space.

[DJ Envy]

But are you tired of sharing that part of yourself? Like, are you tired of sharing who you are personally? Like, I'm an actress, I do this part. I do this part. But now it seems like they're diving more into your personal.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah, I'm excited to be able. I think that's why I love doing my podcast. I love being able to talk and really share who I am outside of just the glit, the clips and the moments that people get to see that are performing, that are usually performance based or me making sure, you know, I run. I'm ready to. I really want to have more conversations because I feel like I also have so much to share from what I've been through as a creator, as an entrepreneur. I don't want to these people to go through the same things I went through.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, wow, they wrapping us up. But I do want to ask one thing. Because you survived child stardom, right, without having a public breakdown, even though you've been taking care of your family forever. What protected your spirit?

[Keke Palmer]

I mean, I hate to say this is going to sound cliche, but I think in many ways that if people don't believe, then that's what they would feel. But honestly, God. Honestly, God, I grew up in a church, you know, my father's a deacon. The foundation of what I believe, the conversations that I've had with myself, the rituals that my grandmother gave me, God rest her soul, my Grandma Mildred, my grandma Birdetta. So I never felt like even when I had to go underground, I knew I had. I knew I had God with me, you know, and so there were. I remember the moment when I was 17 and I was like, nobody can know me because it was unsafe because I was constantly under scrutiny and working as an adult as a kid. And I couldn't be sad on set or I couldn't be angry. I couldn't show any of those emotions. So I told myself, I'm going to just be, yes, let's do it. And I just said, the real me, she gonna go low key because they can't handle her. They can't handle the questions, they can't handle the awareness. They can't handle what the conversations that I have with Boots, they couldn't handle that. Me trying to talk about that kind of stuff in my position as true Jackson vp. And so I just continued to survive my life. And then at some point I said, she, she can you. She's safe now. She can come up for air. I can talk about this and share this.

[Boots Riley]

Can I say Something I've observed just from being in your sphere is that even without the child stardom thing you have, what a lot of people in Hollywood don't have is you have your family around you. They, they are, you know, regular people that are just good people and they're around you all, they're always somewhere a couple rooms over or something like that. And you, you, you know, and you do live your life with them. They're there and, and, and you have them advising you and you have them protecting you. And so you, you have that community right there. And it's something that, you know, I would wish upon anyone to have.

[Demi Moore]

I hope and your mom are executive producers of this.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Demi Moore]

So congratulations. Amazing.

[Kel Penn]

Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

And I love Boosters is out today, so make sure out Kiki Palmer. Boots Riley. Think I know.

[Boots Riley]

Check this out. We got, we don't. It's not only Kiki Palmer and it's Kiki Palmer. Moore, Taylor Page, Lake Stanfield, Don Cheadle, A.A. gonzalez, Poppy Liu, you know, and it's, look, we're wide, it's only in 1700 theaters, which is big. But that means if it's not right near you convenient, I need you to travel over there and get it to this weekend. We gotta blow this up and thank you everybody. Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, Kiki Palmer.

[Keke Palmer]

Appreciate y'.

[Boots Riley]

All. Thank you for having us.

[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Keke Palmer]

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