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Lamorne Morris
Hold up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Every day I wake up.
Lamorne Morris
Wake your ass up.
Charlamagne Tha God
The Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne. Tha God. Envy is off today, but Lauren LaRosa is here and we got a special guest in the building. He will be in the new series spider noir, coming May 25. Lamorne Morris is here.
Lamorne Morris
Hey. Hey.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning, sir.
Lamorne Morris
Good morning. How are you doing? I'm good, I'm good.
Charlamagne Tha God
Every time I see you, man, I just feel close to you. Because we share a sister.
Lamorne Morris
Yes, we do. Alicia, she. She bailed on us today.
Charlamagne Tha God
I know she was here all week. I think I was running around so I ain't get a chance to see her, man.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
But she spends way more time with you now because she's on the West Coast.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she says you abandoned her.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I did not.
Lamorne Morris
I know. I'm just trying to start.
Host
Back over.
Lamorne Morris
Like, how are you though, my brother?
Charlamagne Tha God
Dude, I'm good.
Lamorne Morris
You know, it's funny, I used to tell people when people ask me that, I would just go old and tired. And then I started feeling old and tired. Everything started breaking down. And so now I'm like, I'm good. I'm great.
Charlamagne Tha God
What's kicking your ass more? Acting, Fatherhood, or just life in general?
Lamorne Morris
Try to balance it. To be honest with you, before I had a kid, I was just free. You know what I mean? Like, I go, oh, you got a job in Africa. Let's go do it. You know what I mean? You got a job over here. Let's go do it. Now you got to really pay attention to, you know, time spent with your kid. You still gotta make money. You still gotta work. So if I could bring her with me, you know that. But that's a stressful situation. Trying to handle the logistics of that. You know, she's only five, so, you know, I would say that. That work, fatherhood, you know, I'm a single dad, so that balance is kinda. It's kind of crazy for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm noticing gray hairs everywhere.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's interesting with you, right, because you definitely a comedian, right? So you built a career where people expect you to be funny, but then your dramatic work is equally as good.
Lamorne Morris
Right. I don't think they heard you when you said it.
Co-host/Interviewer
You got range, brother.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, I feel like I don't get the respect.
Charlamagne Tha God
Do you find yourself leaning in one direction.
Lamorne Morris
No. You know what's cool is that I like the. As actors and performers, we like to think that we can do everything. You know what I mean? But it's very rare that you get the opportunity to do it. So for years, I was on comedies and stuff like that and getting that recognition. But I'm an actor, you know, so I can play whatever's written, and I could play it honestly and truthfully. When Fargo came around, I won an Emmy for it.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
Lamorne Morris
And people were like, what? What? You know, and I was like, yeah, we, as performers, if given an opportunity, can do. Can do a lot of things. And so now with this show, the cool thing about this show is that, you know, I kind of get to do all of it. You know, there's moments where you're very passionate, very serious, but it's still a comic book franchise, so. And it's with Nic Cage, so you get to be silly. You get to. You call him Nick. Now it's not Nicholas like the rest of us. My Nick. Okay. Yeah. You know, so I didn't even know that I called. I called him Nick Cage, too, I think, to Alicia, and she was like, oh, we all. We don't just call him Nick. We got to call him Nicholas.
Charlamagne Tha God
Still, I never heard nobody refer to him as Nick in my life.
Lamorne Morris
Nick. That's my Nick.
Charlamagne Tha God
When you won the Emmy for Fargo, did that feel validating or did it make you realize, like, Hollywood only rewards black actors when they suffer in a role?
Lamorne Morris
You know, it's so crazy. Listen, I was thinking about it. I was thinking about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
I used to have this bit that
Lamorne Morris
it was like, if you want to win an Oscar, you gotta. You gotta be a slave. And I started writing this. I started writing this movie that I stopped writing called the Porch. And it was one. It was like. It was about this actor who was trying to get respect. So he wrote a slave movie called the Porch about one. About one slave's uprising to become a house nigger. And it was like, once he finally became a house nigga, and everybody goes and sees the movie, and black people turn on me, you know, So I was gonna make that. I was gonna make that movie. But when I won the award, it did feel validating. It was just like, you know, Noah Hawley, the creator, he said something. He was like, usually when people win these big awards, they. It's because their role was big and glitzy, and they did a weird thing, and they had a lisp, and they Did a thing, you know, he was like, the good guy won. He was like, just great acting. You followed the arc, you did the thing, and people appreciated it. You know, he was like, it's about time that that happened. Because a lot of those performances sometimes get overlooked because, you know, somebody got a stutter, you know, and somebody, like you said, is a slave, you know, and then. But there are times where I do feel that way. It's like we do have to suffer in order to get that. To get that recognition, you know what I mean? Because if you look at our performances, like, for the most part, they're pretty damn great, and they don't get the recognition.
Charlamagne Tha God
The point sounded like a great concept, didn't it? To me, anyway.
Lamorne Morris
And you don't want to produce it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Sure, y'.
Lamorne Morris
All.
Host
Richard Smith, he's doing that now.
Charlamagne Tha God
You doing it.
Host
No, he's doing that now.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't get Illuminati rumors, though, Lamont. It's as much success as you've had, like, mainstream success. You don't get the Illuminati rumors. How have you avoided that?
Lamorne Morris
I don't know. Why? Because I'd be sacrificing. No,
Host
I'm looking forward to it.
Lamorne Morris
Please. No. You know what's interesting is that I like the thing I like the most about my career is that I can.
Charlamagne Tha God
I've been.
Lamorne Morris
Like you said, I've been working for a long time, you know, and I do well for myself. But I can go. I could go to the mall, you know what I mean? And just hang out and kick it. And then people will walk up and people will say, what's up? And people ask for photos. But it's not like it ain't like the Rock, you know what I mean? Like, it ain't that. That level of success, seeing what's not like the Rock.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why would you use the Rock? Why would you.
Host
Why you gotta double down like that?
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. How about.
Lamorne Morris
Okay, ok. It ain't like Brad Pitt, you know what I mean?
Host
One more try, One more time.
Lamorne Morris
One more time. It ain't like Oprah going to the
Charlamagne Tha God
mall, you know what I'm saying?
Lamorne Morris
Listen, I feel good about myself today, but it's not like that. I have a steady career. I used to tell people all the time, I just want to be Morgan Freeman. I want to be in my 80s and 90s and still working and not have to have, like a burnout, you know what I mean? Because of such a high heights. That seems cool at times, but as long as the money's still good. And I can still, you know, provide for my family. I don't need that. I don't need to be Bieber. I don't need to be.
Charlamagne Tha God
You want longevity and consistency.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah. Because I like. I like my peace. I like to be able to hang out with people and be able to take selfies and just. People just respect it and chill. I don't like the people. Oh, my God. Like, that's wild to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Lamorne Morris
So, you know, when we were talking
Host
about the dramatic roles.
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Host
And you doing these various things, though, earlier you said that you still don't feel like you get the recognition for. So if you could pick the recognition which would come with a lot of the.
Lamorne Morris
Oh, my God.
Host
Fame.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah.
Host
And consistency, which one would you pick if you honestly had to make a choice?
Lamorne Morris
Well, see, that's tough because, you know, there are actors who I consider like, goats that can do that, can go to the mall. I think Don Cheadle is top five best actors I've ever seen. And that's a skill that I want to be able to get to. I think everybody knows Don Cheadle, but his personality says, I'm good. You can come up to me and talk to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, he.
Lamorne Morris
People aren't rabid about it. That's what I. That's what I'm looking for. You know what I mean? But he gets that. He gets the accolade when he walks in the room. Everybody knows that's an actor. That's an. That's an artist, and they respect it. And you can't disrespect anything about his career. So that's kind of what I'm looking for. If that. Listen, if it comes with the. The craziness and chaos behind it, so be it. You can find ways to protect yourself from all that. You know what I mean? I just don't want to have to be guarded by a bunch of security guards all the time. And like, that just. That doesn't feel healthy for. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, because I'd be doing weird shit and I don't need everybody to know about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, what.
Lamorne Morris
What do you mean?
Charlamagne Tha God
What would you be doing?
Host
What's the weirdest thing you'd be doing?
Lamorne Morris
What do you mean?
Co-host/Interviewer
You already be doing weird, don't you?
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I live a strange lifestyle. Nothing slippery like y' all be talking about. You do gotta clarify. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Post Diddy, Post Epstein. Yeah. YouTube conspiracy theories about Hollywood. Like I said, you've had a lot of success. Like, you get syndication checks.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah. Yeah. I've been lucky, man. New Girl, like, New Girl was weird. It was like a show that almost didn't happen for me, but it ended up being the. The best thing that's happened in my career because it set me up to be in people's household so much that I. That I can work. You know what I mean? It's almost. It is a little validation of just being able to get you a job. But the dramatic stuff is what you, you know, you want a mixture of both.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's crazy. The climate of the country has changed so much that you probably couldn't get a show like New Girls, right.
Lamorne Morris
Right now. Get. Some of the stuff we talked about is kind of, you know, what the show used to be called.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm just talking about the diverse. The diverse friendship of it all.
Lamorne Morris
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We had. And we had two. Two black series regulars on the show. We had a Indian woman on the show. My. The type of guy I had. I dated, like, black women on the show, Asian women on the show. Like Max. Max's character had. It was like. It was just like everything. Like every. It didn't. It didn't. It was interesting. They didn't care. They were just like, oh, let's just. Even my character wasn't supposed to be black. Everybody was auditioning for it. Everybody. I mean, it was Asian cats in the room, Indian cats, Hispanic cats in the room. All. We were all sitting there auditioning. And it was. I mean, I tested against Xzibit at one point. You know what I mean?
Charlamagne Tha God
Rapper.
Lamorne Morris
They. Because they were. They were just trying to find it. They didn't know if they wanted, like, a bigger brother in the loft or if they wanted, like, a younger status. Like, they were trying to play with the dynamics, and so it ended up just happening, just going to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow. Do you think shows like New Girls accidentally prepared America for, like, more diverse friendships?
Lamorne Morris
Probably. You know why? Because it's still around.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Lamorne Morris
New Girl, we stopped taping in 2018, and people still think it's a new show. And I think the reason. I think the reason why is because it translates across all generations. Everybody can identify. I think a lot of times when you see a TV show and it's just predominantly one particular race or one particular thing, it doesn't necessarily. It's not necessarily indicative of what's actually happening in our. In our world. You know, everybody's got diverse groups of friends. You know what I mean? It's just a matter of, like, our networks are scared to show it. Are they scared to showcase it? When you go to other countries, people are like, I love new girl. I love new girl. And you talk about it. They like, I have a friend like you, or my cousin is Jess, or, you know, or we all live together. You know, the one thing we all can agree on is. Is. Is community. You know what I mean? We all been broke and we all had roommates, and everybody can identify with that. And I think that's why it's. That's why it has that longevity. You know what I mean? And I think that's why it can continue to go. People still. Again, people still think we're taping. People are like, when's the new season coming out? I'm like, we about to be a bunch of old living together.
Co-host/Interviewer
Do you believe that you have to do stand up to be a comedian?
Lamorne Morris
I think to have that. I think to pay respect to the comedians. You. Yeah. Cause I think there's so many great comedians that have kind of paved the way. Like, that is their medium. If you're on stage telling jokes, that is your medium. Everything else is you're a comedic performer. Like, I do a little standup, but I'm also. I'm a comedic writer, and I came up in the improv scene, which is you on stage making stuff up from the top of your head.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Lamorne Morris
Or write comedy and write sketches and stuff like that. So I'm a comedic performer, and I'm in the comedy business. But what they do is they're comedians, you know, or comics, if you will. But the comedy business is big. Like, Will Ferrell's not a standup comedian, but he's one of the greatest funny people of all time.
Charlamagne Tha God
Comedic actor is what they call him, right?
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, comedic. He's a comedic actor. You know what I mean? And when he walks in the room, people go, oh, it's gonna be funny. This is the same. But that's the same. When you see, like, a Donnell Rawlings, you know, he's a comic. He's a comedian and a comedic performer. Yeah, shut up, yo. Yes.
Co-host/Interviewer
You know, he is well known, household name, yo.
Lamorne Morris
Apparently he makes good gumbo.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what the streets say.
Lamorne Morris
That's what they say. I've never had it.
Host
He do be cooking.
Lamorne Morris
I know he be cooking out of an rv.
Host
He be telling jokes.
Lamorne Morris
He's hilarious.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, you do got a food truck, but it's, like, unlicensed. That's why. That's the rv.
Lamorne Morris
No, for real, it's unlicensed.
Charlamagne Tha God
He got an RV in Ohio. Yeah. And he cooks out of the RV in Ohio.
Lamorne Morris
I know. I was in Ohio in Yellow Springs.
Host
And he didn't cook for you.
Lamorne Morris
He was offering it. And I was like, nigga, you made it out of an rv. I'm not about to eat this shit.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't support black business.
Lamorne Morris
Not out of an rv.
Co-host/Interviewer
Oh, that depends on where it's.
Lamorne Morris
No, I refuse.
Charlamagne Tha God
I know that nothing did comedy.
Lamorne Morris
Interesting.
Charlamagne Tha God
I mean, I just like. I like the people you use as examples. I never thought about that.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, I mean, yeah, but you. But then you got. I mean, you got some people that are just legendary that do it all. You know, Martin, Eddie Murphy, he hasn't. He hasn't done. He hasn't been on the stage in a long time, but Eddie is the king. You know, Jamie Foxx. Jamie. Jamie Foxx, to me, is the greatest performer of all time. Greatest performer of all time. Like, just overall performance. Jamie. There's nobody better than Jamie Foxx. Why?
Charlamagne Tha God
Because he can do so many things
Lamorne Morris
or just he can do so many things at a high level and he's brave enough to do it. You know, there are a lot of people, like, internally, this is a real thought that I have. This is a real thought. I think I am the greatest standup comic of all time. But you will never think like that. But you never know it. Cause I don't be doing it. So everybody can say. You know what I mean? Everybody can say, I truly. And this is not me exaggerating. I'm looking at all these people on this wall, and I'm like, yeah, if I took the time, I'd be better than all of them.
Charlamagne Tha God
I had some people on this wall.
Lamorne Morris
I don't give a shit who they are. Dick Gregory.
Co-host/Interviewer
I was gonna say Dick Gregory.
Lamorne Morris
It doesn't matter.
Charlamagne Tha God
Kevin Har.
Lamorne Morris
It doesn't matter.
Charlamagne Tha God
Martin.
Lamorne Morris
It doesn't matter.
Co-host/Interviewer
Little Duvalle, Chappelle, Chris Brown.
Lamorne Morris
Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Charlamagne Tha God
You should feel like that.
Lamorne Morris
I will. And it's the. And it's a fact. I feel I could be so much better than them. But here's where we differ. They got way more courage. They have. Way. They're. They're. They just have it. There's the one thing that we forget about is that to. To be them, you have to. Not only do you have to be skilled and gifted at what you do, but your drive and that it. Thing has to happen. It has to be there. And I could say all day that I. That I have it, but until I Prove it. I gotta shut the fuck up. You know what I mean?
Charlamagne Tha God
How long you been out there?
Lamorne Morris
I was just on stage recently for Netflix as a joke. I just did it. It was dope. It was great. It was fun and people liked it. And I get that itch. I go on stage and I go, okay, great, they laughed. And I go, I don't need to do this for another six months.
Host
Oh, my God.
Lamorne Morris
Because what y' all do is. It's like, you know how hard that is. You know, we gotta hit the stage over and over and over again and test jokes and deal with the ones that don't work. You gotta do. That is a. That is people. People forget how much work goes into it, and they don't. And there's sometimes, as much as I'd like to say I'm great at it. I don't have what they have.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think it's the hardest thing to do on stage, stand up comedy.
Lamorne Morris
It is.
Charlamagne Tha God
I really do. Like, it's you by yourself with a whole crowd of people that have the expectation to have.
Lamorne Morris
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
You gotta be insane to even go out there, to be honest with you.
Lamorne Morris
You know how hard it is to change somebody's mood. People walk into comedy club pissed half the time, right?
Co-host/Interviewer
But they come there for, you know, comic relief. And you are a genius writer, so I don't understand why that's like the scariest thing for you to do.
Lamorne Morris
And I came up on the stage. It's just there's a certain level of anxiety I get that I can't control. And I go, but 30 seconds into it, I'm having fun. But it's that panic of the week before where I'm like, okay, I gotta go perform at this stage and do this thing. And I'm just like. And people around me will tell me, they were like, well, you are annoying to be around. Well, you got a show. You got a show. People talking to me. I'm like, don't say words in front of me, because then I gotta go say. I might say your words when I get on. Just shut the fuck up. And it's. I can't live that way. I can't live that way. Maybe it's just a habit that I need to practice more.
Charlamagne Tha God
But, like, when the last time you
Lamorne Morris
did a black room, like, black, black, black, black, black.
Co-host/Interviewer
Damn it ain't been Gucci been that long.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's a word I want to say. But you got white people in here with you, so I'm not gonna to say it.
Lamorne Morris
Go ahead Say it. You know the word I'm talking about black.
Charlamagne Tha God
The last time you did one of those rooms.
Lamorne Morris
Oh, my God. Probably last year. We did. We did a few room. We did. I probably at the Improv. It was at the Improv. We did a show. I hosted a show. And in between, I would do. I would do sets. I would do like 10 minute sets in between. That was a cool show because I had Arsenio headline in Arsenio Hall. Headliner.
Co-host/Interviewer
God damn, what a flex.
Lamorne Morris
I mean, yeah, yeah, At Arsenio headline. And so that was. That was a cool moment in my life. It was interesting because Arsenio was even like, hey, man, when you going up next? I was like, a few months. He was like, what? He was like, what are you talking about? He was like, you just be popping up and then not doing it again. I'm like, yeah, it's fun, man. He's like, you got to keep doing it. He's like, what are you doing? What's happening with you? I was like, I'm an actor, you know, And I. And I. I know how hard it is to do what you guys do. I'm having fun up there right now. And in this moment, people, there's laughter because I improvise a lot, but like to sit down and craft. 45 minutes to an hour. I was talking with Chris Rock about it the other day. Chris Rock was like, before I put a special out, I got like 300 shows that I've done, 300 small rooms. He's like the average comic. When they put their special out, they've done 40 rooms. He was like, me, it's 300. And I was like, that's why he's Chris Rock. But 300 shows is crazy. We were at the brunch. The Netflix is a joke brunch. And he was just like, after this, I'm hitting a few clubs tonight. I was like, jesus Christ. He was like, yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, man. He was just like, locked in. That's a different level of locked.
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Streaming May 22nd on Paramount. The acclaimed series from executive producer Lena Waithe reaches its final chapter. The Chi. For seven seasons, these stories, these streets, this community have stayed with us. Now it all leads to this. As friendships are tested, families evolve, and secrets refuse to stay buried, one thing is certain. The Chi is more than just a series. It's a legacy. Don't miss the final season. May 22 on the Paramount Premium Plan.
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Charlamagne Tha God
it
Lamorne Morris
took me so long to break into the acting business that I know. And I mean there was, there was one point I was living in my car. It was a real struggle. So I know the struggle of an actor, of an actor's journey, the struggle of a comics journey is harsh as well. I don't want to have to go through that again.
Host
But I mean if you wouldn't financially go through anything because you have other jobs, well, not that you don't want to get booed.
Lamorne Morris
I don't want to get booed. I've seen.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's part of it, though.
Co-host/Interviewer
Not for everybody. I never got booed.
Lamorne Morris
There's a lot of things. Erectile dysfunction is a part of life,
Co-host/Interviewer
but I don't want to have to be that way.
Lamorne Morris
I don't want to have to experience it.
Co-host/Interviewer
It don't got to be.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I get what you say, you know?
Host
What's the feel? I mean, is it just the embarrassment of bombing? Like, what is it for you? Because, I mean, you're still successful once you walk off the stage, if you never do it again.
Lamorne Morris
Here's the thing. I understand. It don't. It's an illusion. It's a pure illusion. Especially when we know inside baseball, we know the process, we know everybody's gonna get booed. I've been around Chappelle for a while. I've seen him go on stage. And there'd be, like little streaks of time where people aren't laughing, but we know what he's doing. He's crafting his masterpiece. And there are times where I'm like, I don't know what it is. There's this level of fear of, like, in the moment. Like, I love the rush of positivity when there's a rush of. When it's silent. Have you ever been on stage and it's silent?
Host
Yeah.
Co-host/Interviewer
Yeah.
Lamorne Morris
That's wild. I'd rather you boo.
Co-host/Interviewer
But they know you gotta rather them be quiet because that means they listening to you. If it's a quiet room, you got their attention. If you hear in chatter, they building up to the boo.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I mean? You just hit.
Lamorne Morris
Man got this, man got that.
Co-host/Interviewer
When you hearing that, it's like, ah, yeah, they not interested. They're not interested in you. And they rather talk to each other, right. In a dark room where they can always see.
Lamorne Morris
That's what I mean by silence. But what I mean by silence is they're not worried about what you got going on. Like, it's like, oh, we're right. This is. Yeah, sure, he's up there anyway, so where you going tonight? Like, I don't. That's what I mean by silence. You know what I mean? Yeah, because. Yeah, you're right. Like, you right. When Dave is up there, people are listening. They're truly listening. You know what I mean? And. But for me, you know, I don't be saying shit like, I got weird. I haven't been booed yet. That's the. That's the good thing. I haven't been booed yet, but I'm just like, I'm dreadful of that moment.
Co-host/Interviewer
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Do you ever feel like Hollywood typecast you as safe, funny?
Lamorne Morris
Yeah. Oh, my God, all the time. And that's. And that's. It started out as a thing that I just. That just happened. And then it was like. Then I started protecting my peace a little bit with going like, you know, Flip Wilson is one of my favorite performers, and, you know, I read his book and he talked about being safe and people considered him being safe, but he was a wild dude off camera, and he was like, yeah, I'm gonna keep it that way because I don't need people knowing what I do is a show. That's the show. You don't need to know who I really am in my personal life. And so for me, it's kind of the same way. Like, my friends will tell you, people around me will tell you. I, like on my podcast, I say, shit, probably every day. That could get. That could get me canceled. But then I go in the edit, we were like, I don't need it. I don't need it. It's a funny joke, but I don't need it because I don't. Like, I don't. There's this certain heat that I don't want. There's certain heat that I don't want. And we all bounce back from it. People who get canceled and shit, they all bounce back from it. But I don't, you know, I got. I don't.
Co-host/Interviewer
But is it funny?
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, See, it'd be funny.
Co-host/Interviewer
Yeah, if it's funny. If it's more funny than offensive, it ain't going. It ain't gonna matter.
Lamorne Morris
I wish, I wish, child, you get
Host
that call from that agent, that agent be like, well, why would we air.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah.
Host
We are in conversation with this studio. I think that's a big thing for you too.
Lamorne Morris
Like, you're studio work, 100% studio work, corporate, you know, corporate sponsors, and even the spokesperson for certain. You know, I go, man, is this joke worth losing that I got that platform? You know what I mean? Now, I always said this. I say this all the time. The moment certain things go away, you're about to get the most unhinged version of me you've ever seen in your life. Because then, now, now everything is in house. Like, that's, that's, that's the reason why I do love standup comics. Because no matter what you take away from stand up comics, the audience don't go nowhere.
Host
Yeah.
Lamorne Morris
You know, I could still, you still go on stage and still make your money and still have the fans support you.
Charlamagne Tha God
And now it's podcast as well.
Lamorne Morris
Exactly, exactly. But, but what I, you know, I liked about Kevin Hart special is that he, he kept. Or his roast is that he kept. He kept, like shouting out his sponsors. Really? He was like, sorry for what I'm about to say to all my sponsors, blah, blah, blah. This has nothing to do with you guys. And he would go say some wild shit. You know what I mean? That's the type of energy that I would, that, that, that I'm. That I try to have on my podcast.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is it a dollar amount? Is it an age to. Where you going to say fuck it? Because I remember Kevin, and I'm sure this is on video somewhere. Kev literally said, I'm gonna do this, this, this, this, and this. And then I'm gonna get to the point where I'm gonna turn hill. Yeah.
Lamorne Morris
And everybody's gonna hate me and I'm
Charlamagne Tha God
gonna say what the hell I want. I remember him saying this 10 years ago. Yeah.
Lamorne Morris
I'd probably say it has to have a B in front of it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Host
Yeah. B.
Co-host/Interviewer
Right, Right.
Lamorne Morris
I have a billion dollars. Everybody need a B. Suck my dick at that point. B. Yeah, yeah. B, A B. I could run somebody over, get sued for 50 million. There's nothing to me. I couldn't. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna see it inside of a jail cell. I own the prison. Damn.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is Spider New war part of the mcu?
Lamorne Morris
In a roundabout way. Right? It's not like.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is it canon?
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, it's Sony. It's the Sony Marvel Universe. It's based off of the. It's based off the. The character is based off the Spider Verse character. Okay. Same producer as Lord Miller. They, you know, if you watch the movie, they have. Nic Cage's character was the, Was the noir version. He was the black and white one. So this is basically that the live action version of him in that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah. Different. You know, used to be Peter Parker, now as Ben Reilly. You know what I mean? And the cool thing I like about it, when we watch Spider man, it's always this young boy trying to figure out who he is and probably hadn't even gone through puberty yet. And all of a sudden he's got all these powers and he's trying to figure out all this Runway he has in front of him. But this one, he's over it. This is a spider man who's like, I've done it already. I'm tired of it. I don't want to be saving people anymore. He drinks a lot. He just. He's just. He's just over it, you know what I mean? And the show is about New York going through a lot of bs and maybe it's time for him to put the mask back on, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
Co-host/Interviewer
How long did it take for y' all to shoot the shoot?
Lamorne Morris
I probably say, like, six months. It's like five or six months it took to shoot it. Yeah, it's not bad. Yeah. I mean, it's. But we shot it in black and white and in color, so it's meant to be viewed in black and white, but the color version is just as effective. And it's fun. It's fun to look at. What's the difference between the one shooting
Charlamagne Tha God
in black and white and shooting in color?
Lamorne Morris
Well, I'm saying you have the option when you're watching it, you could go and watch the episode all in black and white, or you could change and go and watch it in color.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Lamorne Morris
When you watch it in black and white, you get that noir, nostalgic feel of how the old movies used to look. And then when you turn the color on, it's a completely different energy. Completely different. You start noticing vibrant colors. And I think the wardrobe department, the costumers, they did such a great job of what we all look like. And you catch that in the black and white. You can see it in the black and white, but when you put it on in color, it's like a whole different. Like, you have a whole different. Yeah, I thought when you say you
Charlamagne Tha God
shot it in black and white, I'm like, how the hell y' all did that?
Lamorne Morris
You know, it's so funny what people, when I'm doing interviews, they go like, what was it like shooting it in black and white? I was like, the same as shooting.
Charlamagne Tha God
Right.
Lamorne Morris
I was like, black and white didn't make me walk different.
Host
Right.
Co-host/Interviewer
I'm on camera.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I know you got to go, but I want to ask this question because, you know, it's like I watched you from the beginning.
Lamorne Morris
Right.
Charlamagne Tha God
I remember the BET New Faces. Yeah. You know, campaign. And you, Roxy, Terence, Alicia, Renee. Who else was from there?
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, we had Shaming Martinez. Well, Jaleesa came in right before us.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Lamorne Morris
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jaleesa was there. Damn. We had a. We had a squad, man. Demarcus K. We a lot of. We had a lot. We're all still tight, too. For the most part.
Charlamagne Tha God
We're all.
Lamorne Morris
We're all still cool. And. And. And, you know, my buddy Curtis, I just did his podcast the other day, and, man, that. That was one of those times in my life that I didn't know what was happening. I was just auditioning. Like, I was. I lived in Chicago, and I was like, audition? Yeah, let's go do it. I was still on stage doing Second City, doing comedy that way, and when I got it, it was a whole new experience. I'm in rooms with Reginald Hudlin and Stephen Hill, and they're talking business, and I don't know what the they're talking about. I just want to go and tell jokes and be weird and silly and. And it was like, education. I just had to. It just made me grow up. And then living in New York at the time, too, was the most stressful thing I've ever done in my life.
Charlamagne Tha God
Really?
Lamorne Morris
That's why I left.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. You didn't last long.
Lamorne Morris
Hell, no. Two years. I was like, y' all walk too fast. I walk way too fast. Everybody got something to do. I'm like, man, they ain't doing.
Charlamagne Tha God
And it seemed like BET didn't really know where to place you.
Lamorne Morris
They didn't.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, Terence and Roxy had 106 and you and leash. This was wherever they could find you ought to be.
Lamorne Morris
We were floating around, and I was. You know, that was also kind of by design. When I got hired, it was. I was a little confused. My audition wasn't traditional. Like, they had the host read. It was like, you got to read the top 10 countdown. And I met the audition, and everybody's like, I'm used to auditioning at this point. You saw auditioning for commercials and stuff, so I'm used to the process, but people are in there just, like, going at it. They're, like, out loud rehearsing in front of you. I had a cat walk up to me and say, hey, my man, what you think about this? I was like, why are you asking me? I'm competing against you. Right? He was like, coming in at number one. We got the. And he was doing all that, and I was like, that's not who I am. This is not gonna feel authentic at all if I tried that. So I went in and started roasting. Everybody on the countdown started roasting Mary J. Blige. I started roasting Chris Brown. I just started doing it. I was just, like, doing a whole bit, and then behind the camera, I just heard, and it was Reginald Hudlin. Lot of people weren't laughing. Reggie was the one laughing. And Reggie was the only one who at the time understood my sense of humor. And he was even telling me. He was like, I'm not 100% sure where we're gonna put you, but I know you're very funny, so we gonna figure it out. So they had me writing sketches. They had me writing bits and writing little segments here and there on 106. And so that was kind of my way, my thing at the time. They didn't realize it. They didn't know if I was gonna be a writer on the show or if I was gonna just be a performer. They had hits from the street prior to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Lamorne Morris
And they were like, maybe he can replace hits from the street.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what it felt like.
Lamorne Morris
That's what it felt like. They. I remember one time we had spring bling, and they wanted me to go on the beach and just start roasting people. And I was like. I was like, what? And they were like, just go talk shit to people on the beach. And I was just like, that's so mean. I was like, but that's so cruel. I was like, really? And they're like, yeah, it'd be really funny. And I was like, all right. So I go. And I do it and Is working. It's working too much. Had this one woman. I just started. I just started roasting her. Cause they told me to. She started crying. Oh, no. She was like. Like, when I say crying, she started crying. No, she wasn't drunk, because I was just very effective. And she said, what was it?
Charlamagne Tha God
Tell me some of the jokes.
Lamorne Morris
No, no, it was just her. Literally, it was her boots she was wearing. I just started.
Charlamagne Tha God
I was on the beach.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, yeah. And I just started. And I just started singing this song. Like, I just followed her, and I started humming this song. These boots are made for running. And then she was just. And then I just. Literally. I just started following her in the camera crew and the mic. And then she'd be. She would think I was gone. And I pop up right behind her, and I would just Kept singing about her boots. She started crying, and she was just like. And she looked at me. She goes. She goes, some people don't got it, okay? Some people work with what they have. And she started crying. I was like, ah, fuck.
Co-host/Interviewer
Right? She handled Damn flip flops.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't know she was gonna say that, bruh.
Lamorne Morris
I was like, they would only pass you. She had. And I went to Stephen Hill and I said. I was like, I can't keep doing this, man. I can't. Keep doing this.
Charlamagne Tha God
I was like, this is.
Lamorne Morris
This is not where I want to go.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you apologize to her? Did you give her your per diem? Like, what did you do in that?
Lamorne Morris
Oh, I the shit out of her. No, I gave her some new boots.
Co-host/Interviewer
Damn.
Charlamagne Tha God
I got one more question. What insecurity do you still carry from before fame? That success never fixed.
Lamorne Morris
That success never fixed. I. I'm working on it. This is something I am very much so working on. You know, there are some things that happened to me younger in my dating life when I'm talking younger, younger, like 14, that I joke about because it's funny. But there are times I find that it pops up in my dating life that it makes me feel like I haven't gotten over it. And I have. But telling these jokes on stage about it is very therapeutic. I was about to lose my virginity to someone and she said, should we tell it? She wanted to. She was like, oh, I was talking to this other cat. He said that you haven't done it before in your life. So maybe I should. Maybe he should have sex with me while you watch. Oh, so then you will know what you're doing. And after that, I was just like, all women trying to be gangbanked. Like, all of them. I was 14 and I was like, what is she talking about?
Charlamagne Tha God
So you was cooking early, bro.
Lamorne Morris
I didn't do it.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't.
Lamorne Morris
I didn't. This is.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't.
Lamorne Morris
There's no way. There was no cuck chair. There was no cuck chair in my. In my household.
Charlamagne Tha God
So how did you reply to her?
Lamorne Morris
I didn't. I just thought that was ridiculous. And I just. We stopped talking.
Host
He at 14.
Lamorne Morris
14. This nigga, how old was he? 17. This nigga run up to me at. This nigga run up to me at school. Damn, you missed it, Joe. Where you was at, nigga? He went through with it.
Host
So what does that do for you in your day and life today?
Lamorne Morris
My day in life. Tonight, when I first look at a woman, I go, just. Probably just came straight from a gang bang.
Charlamagne Tha God
Then I got.
Lamorne Morris
Then I gotta. Then I gotta get into it. Then I gotta go, but I love you. I hope you didn't just come straight from a gang. No, no, it doesn't. It's just like. It's just. It's just. It doesn't actually do anything for my dating life now. But it's always a bit that I remember, and it's always a moment in my life that I remember, and it's.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's Almost like when he was thinking, boy, bitches ain't shit. That's what he was thinking back then.
Lamorne Morris
Always stuck with.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what stuck with you. And I don't call women that word, but that's what you were thinking back then. But back then. Yeah, back then.
Lamorne Morris
For. I was 14, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I was 14.
Lamorne Morris
And I had no real. I had no real reference point. You know what I mean? Like, you know, my father wasn't around. I didn't see the romance in the household.
Co-host/Interviewer
Gotcha.
Lamorne Morris
You know, you thought all women was
Charlamagne Tha God
getting down like that.
Lamorne Morris
I just, you know, I was 14.
Co-host/Interviewer
Like, this was the first, like, experience that you had.
Lamorne Morris
All my friends were getting laid. I wasn't down. I was just like, man.
Host
So are you romantic on dates?
Lamorne Morris
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. I'm very much so romantic on days. But I'm also. I have a cynical sense of humor. You know what I mean? And sometimes I'd like to, in conversation, to do bits and bring shit up, and then they're just like, that's too
Host
much like gang banging on a first date.
Lamorne Morris
First date. I'm like, okay, one, One. Are you a close personal relationship with your parents? I go, okay, cool. 2. Have you been gang banged?
Co-host/Interviewer
God damn.
Charlamagne Tha God
What woman made you unlearn that, though? What woman made you feel like, you know what? All women aren't out here getting gang banged and wanting.
Lamorne Morris
Oh, that made probably. This is probably the. The woman. The girl lost my virginity too. You know what I mean? Like, I lost that later. I lost that a while ago. But it is something that I keep doing as a. And I can't stop doing it. No, the bit.
Charlamagne Tha God
The bit. Like, the bit. I just can't.
Lamorne Morris
I can't stop doing. Stuck with me. And it's. I'm sure it's annoying.
Host
This is nothing about gang banging, but about dating. Are you and Nassim, are y' all really going on a date? Is that gonna actually happen?
Charlamagne Tha God
Who's Nasim?
Host
One of his co stars from New Girl, but he called her on the podcast, which is very awkward.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, I called her on the podcast and was like, hey, we should go on a date. She was like, okay, cool. And then it kind of went everywhere, but I was joking, but.
Host
Oh, so that's not gonna really happen because people really. They wanna see y'.
Lamorne Morris
All.
Co-host/Interviewer
What if she had really, like, had a big crush on you and she was trying to, like, work her way up to asking you, and you call her and you ask her to go on a date with you? And you playing and shit.
Lamorne Morris
Well, here's the thing. We known each other, so we know. We know each other so well that once she agreed to it, I immediately knew she understood what was happening.
Host
Oh, she's played into it.
Lamorne Morris
I immediately knew, you know, and we talked about. She called me afterwards. She was like, you know, people are gonna really believe that, right?
Host
Cause y' all characters and like, you know, what y' all do on the show.
Lamorne Morris
I know, but we're so close. I used to date one of her best friends. You know what I mean? And like, we. It's not like that.
Charlamagne Tha God
I mean, you probably got a good, good, good recommendation. You said. You said you should date one of her best friends. You probably got a good recommendation sometimes.
Lamorne Morris
I mean, possibly. Possibly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
I got a five star review and don't know it.
Lamorne Morris
Yeah, but she ain't gonna do that. She wouldn't do that to her friend. She wouldn't do. I know some women will. Yeah. You know why? Because this ain't
Co-host/Interviewer
damn.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's Lamorne Morris, y'.
Lamorne Morris
All.
Charlamagne Tha God
Go check out Spider Noir. May 25. Man you for joining us.
Lamorne Morris
Oh, thank y'.
Host
All.
Lamorne Morris
I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Lamorne Morris
Wake your ass up.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Lamorne Morris
You all finished or y' all done?
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Episode Date: May 18, 2026
Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious, (DJ Envy off), featuring Lauren LaRosa
Guest: Lamorne Morris
In this engaging and candid interview, Lamorne Morris—best known for his role on ‘New Girl’ and new lead in the upcoming series ‘Spider-Noir’—joins The Breakfast Club to discuss his career journey, the legacy of ‘New Girl,’ balancing fatherhood and acting, the comedic craft, and the complexities of success as a Black performer in Hollywood. The conversation is a blend of comedic banter, thoughtful reflection, and industry insights, offering a look into Morris’ evolution from improv stages to Emmy-winning drama, and now, a Marvel-inspired noir adventure.
[02:53-03:16]
“I used to tell people… I was just old and tired… then I started feeling old and tired. Everything started breaking down. Now I’m like, I’m good. I’m great.” – Lamorne [03:25]
[03:35-04:13]
[04:13-05:31]
“As performers, if given an opportunity, [we] can do a lot of things.” – Lamorne [04:54]
“We, as performers, if given an opportunity, can do a lot of things.” – Lamorne [04:54]
[05:31-07:05]
“There are times where I do feel that way. It’s like, we do have to suffer in order to get that recognition… our performances… are pretty damn great.” – Lamorne [06:38]
[07:12-08:52]
“I just want to be Morgan Freeman. I want to be in my 80s and 90s and still working… not have to have a burnout because of such high heights.” – Lamorne [08:12]
[09:05-10:13]
“I think Don Cheadle is top five best actors I’ve ever seen… When he walks in the room everybody knows that’s an actor, that’s an artist, and they respect it.” – Lamorne [09:11]
[10:13-12:08]
“Everybody’s got diverse groups of friends… everybody can identify with that. I think that’s why it has that longevity.” – Lamorne [12:14]
[13:21-18:26]
“Jamie [Foxx]… there’s nobody better than Jamie Foxx.” – Lamorne [15:38]
“They got way more courage… to be them, you have to… your drive and that ‘it’ thing has to happen.” – Lamorne [16:24]
[17:26-25:09]
“Stand-up comedy… the hardest thing to do on stage.” – Charlamagne [17:26] “It’s you by yourself with a whole crowd of people that have the expectation to laugh.” – Charlamagne [17:29]
[25:09-27:14]
“There’s this certain heat that I don’t want… I don’t need it.” – Lamorne [26:19]
[27:09-27:58]
“I’d probably say it has to have a B in front of it… a billion dollars. B, yeah, a B.” – Lamorne [27:54]
[28:17-29:43]
“This is a Spider-Man who’s like, ‘I’ve done it already. I’m tired of it. I don’t want to be saving people anymore.’ He drinks a lot…he’s just over it.” – Lamorne [28:47]
“When you watch it in black and white, you get that noir, nostalgic feel…when you turn the color on, it’s like a whole different [thing].” – Lamorne [29:53]
[11:06-13:21]
[30:31-34:55]
[34:58-39:47]
Throughout the conversation, the tone is irreverent, honest, self-deprecating, and frequently comedic. The hosts and Morris lean heavily on playful banter, but also leave space for reflective and nuanced thoughts about career challenges, Black identity in Hollywood, and personal growth.
Charlamagne drives probing, sometimes provocative questions; Lamorne matches with candor and humor, making this episode both insightful and entertaining for listeners.
Lamorne Morris brings sharp personal insight on forging a unique path in Hollywood, the power and pitfalls of visibility, and the value of holding on to one’s peace. Whether talking about his new Marvel noir show, celebrating the beloved legacy of ‘New Girl,’ or dissecting the grind of stand-up, he remains refreshingly open about his limits, ambitions, and the ongoing negotiation between art and self-preservation.