INTERVIEW: Michael Blackson Talks Honest Open Relationships, Respecting His Women & Why America Is Fvcked

Summary

The Breakfast Club – Michael Blackson Talks Honest Open Relationships, Respecting His Women & Why America Is Fvcked

Date: September 29, 2025
Podcast: The Breakfast Club (iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guest: Michael Blackson

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Episode Overview

In this candid and lively episode, comedian Michael Blackson joins The Breakfast Club to discuss his unconventional approach to relationships, experiences with co-parenting, investment in Ghana, navigating American citizenship, and his career trajectory. Blackson keeps it real about open relationships, respect for women, the state of America, and the challenges of maintaining authenticity in fame. The conversation is full of humor, honesty, and behind-the-scenes insights into his personal life and professional journey.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Michael’s Approach to Politics and President Trump

• Unity Over Critique: Blackson expresses a pragmatic stance towards political leaders, arguing for working with whoever is in power rather than constant criticism.
  • Quote: “I’m all about whoever’s in office. Try to get whatever you get out of them instead of just killing them every day… It’s not going to help.” — Michael Blackson [03:22]
• Cultural Reference: He draws a parallel between political leaders in Africa and the U.S., emphasizing adaptability.
  • “In Africa…the leaders are the rich ones…you have to work with if you want to get anything done…so I kept that same energy.” — Michael Blackson [03:53]
• On Criticism: Michael believes bashing politicians is counter-productive, referencing DL Hughley’s approach to roasting Trump.

Co-Parenting and Family Dynamics

• Child Support and Co-Parenting Realities: Blackson reflects on the difficulties of the past 18 years raising twins and the challenges of co-parenting with their mother.

  • Shared a humorous but earnest story of using an app (“Family Wizard”) for court-monitored communication. [05:32]
  • Acknowledges his kids’ mother: “She did a great job raising my boys…they are A students in college…and I’m very proud of them.” [06:27]
  • Memorable Moment: “Please, it’s always best, like, let the woman find some dick. Cause dick calms women down.” [06:49]

• With Fiancee Rada: Talks about the new dynamic with his current partner, her postpartum experience, and how television and social media blur public and private boundaries. [07:55]

Honest Open Relationships

• Transparency About Polygamy: Michael openly discusses his inability to commit to one woman, and being honest about it since day one with his partner Rada. [10:48]
  • “I realized that I just can’t be with one person, and I’ve been honest from the door.” — Michael Blackson [11:00]
• Contractual Agreements: Rada gave him a “quota” of how many women he could see per month (originally once a month, which he sometimes exceeded).
  • “Most of the chicks that I mess with been around for, like, four or five years…and she felt like that’s a relationship as well.” — Michael Blackson [12:08]
• Boundaries and Respect: Michael maintains transparency, respect, and keeps "receipts" in all extra-relationship encounters for accountability, giving advice to younger men in the entertainment industry about protecting themselves.
  • “You always have receipts…You have to be careful…Never leave room for anybody to accuse you of anything.” — Michael Blackson [13:24]

Life as a Public Figure

• Love & Hip Hop Miami: Blackson joins the new season, describing it as “the Michael Blackson Show,” and shares how it’s impacting his personal life. [08:54/16:43]
• Missing Son’s Birth: Shares a comical story of missing the birth of his son due to hunger, cold, and getting lost at a hospital in Arizona, highlighting his long-distance, residence-swap relationship style. [17:12]
  • “I left…drove like 20 minutes to go find something…put in the GPS, pull up and it’s the wrong hospital…” — Michael Blackson [18:27]
• Long-Distance Marriage: Michael and Rada live in separate cities (LA, Arizona, Delaware, Ghana), meeting every other week; he prefers not to cohabitate.

Stand-Up Comedy, Legacy, and Investments

• Building a Legacy in Ghana: Michael discusses building a free school in his home village for underprivileged children, the complications with government bonds, and his aversion to fundraising.
  • Quote: “When I finally did it…I see my name on the school and I see the kids happy…that’s what a legacy is.” [26:21]
  • “If I say I’m gonna do something, I’m gonna do it. As long as I’m working… I’m paying it.” [45:08]
• Comedy for All Audiences: Blackson shares differences in humor between African diasporas and the importance of adapting material for diverse audiences, especially when performing specials in Ghana during “Dirty December.” [39:19]
  • “As a professional doing this for 30 years, you have to learn how to make adjustments on stage and in life, period.” [39:52]
• America as a Career Platform: Notes that his main income is still from stand-up, not branding, and that maintaining one’s fanbase is key as tastes change. [46:19]

Navigating American Citizenship

• Citizenship Struggles: Blackson finally became a U.S. citizen after 30 years, in large part thanks to Rada’s encouragement and after overcoming bureaucratic hurdles like inconsistent tax payments.
  • “I passed the test…and that day, this motherfucker did not want me to be a citizen…He said, well, it wasn’t consistent enough…So you’re not an honest person.” [29:27]
  • Initially he resented the system, only applying to ease travel, not out of patriotic sentiment.
• America “Being Fvcked”: Michael and the hosts weigh in on the state of American politics, the presidency, and their “underdog” voting mentalities. Blackson admits he rooted for Trump—the “comedic president”—for the jokes, not policy. [31:25]
  • “There was nothing funny about Kamala…We need somebody to make fun of!” [31:38]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You got to treat women right and be honest…and always have receipts.” — Michael Blackson [14:13]
• “I didn’t want to start over. I just got lazy with my pull-out game.” — Michael Blackson [05:11]
• “It’s always best, like, let the woman find some dick. Cause dick calms women down.” — Michael Blackson [06:49]
• “As long as you can build a fan base, you can tell these jokes for life.” — Michael Blackson [46:19]
• “If the person is not laughing at it…I think they have to laugh somehow, some way.” — Michael Blackson on comedy boundaries [32:57]
• “When I finally did it…I see my name on the school and I see the kids are happy…that’s what a legacy is.” — Michael Blackson [26:21]
• “Never leave room for anybody to accuse you of anything…My nephew plays in the NFL, I tell him you need a receipt for everything you do.” — Michael Blackson [13:24]
• “I’m not a beggar…just something in me just hate asking for anything.” — Michael Blackson [45:08]

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Important Timestamps

• 03:22 – Blackson on working with any president in power, not criticizing
• 05:32 – Using “Family Wizard” court-monitored app to communicate with ex
• 06:49 – Humor about conflict resolution in relationships
• 11:00 – Michael admits he cannot commit to monogamy; honesty in his relationship
• 12:08 – Explanation of the “relationship quota” and keeping it safe with “regulars”
• 13:24 – Advice to men on protecting themselves in affairs
• 18:27 – Story of missing the birth of his son
• 26:21 – On building the Michael Blackson Academy in Ghana and “legacy”
• 29:27 – Frustrating citizenship interview experience
• 31:38 – Admits supporting Trump for comedic material
• 39:52 – On adapting comedy styles internationally
• 46:19 – Earnings from stand-up vs. “the Michael Blackson brand”

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Overall Tone & Style

The conversation is frank, full of humorous anecdotes, and often boasts a playful, sometimes irreverent tone typical of The Breakfast Club. Blackson is unflinchingly honest—about his flaws, his relationships, and his responsibilities back home and in America—using comedic wit to address serious topics like fatherhood, immigration, and personal legacy.

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For listeners seeking a deeper understanding of Michael Blackson's ethos, this episode offers unfiltered insights into his comedy, his love life, his sense of responsibility, and his take on the state of America—always with a punchline and a lesson.

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[Michael Blackson]

Every day I wake up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake your ass up.

[Michael Blackson]

The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Donald Trump's favorite African.

[Michael Blackson]

Oh, my goodness.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Michael Blackson, ladies and gentlemen.

[Michael Blackson]

Welcome.

[Host 2]

What's up, Mike?

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, brother.

[Michael Blackson]

How you think I'm Donald Trump favorite African?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got to be. You don't think so?

[Michael Blackson]

Well, you know what I'm about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Elon Musk. You know what? You're right.

[Michael Blackson]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Elon Musk. Didn't Michael Black.

[Michael Blackson]

No. I'm all about whoever's in office. You gotta work with them one way or another. And I see you guys. I mean, I see DL DL killing Trump every day. I'm like, listen, that's not gonna help us. You want to help us? Tell this nigga what we need. Don't go bashing him and all that stuff. I'm all about whoever's in office. Try to get whatever you get out of them instead of just killing them every day and making fun, you know, going hard on them. It's not going to help.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know DL Done reached out to you a few times.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, he did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know.

[Michael Blackson]

And that goes back to even Africa. Like, you know, in Africa, the leaders are the ones in charge. They are the rich ones. They're the one that you have to, like, work with if you want to get anything done. You know, that's just how my continent's been, so I just kept that same energy anywhere I go. Whoever's in office, you got to find a way to work with them. You can't just go roasting, you know, bashing him every day. You're not gonna get shit out of him that way.

[DJ Envy]

You get a lot of flack for that.

[Michael Blackson]

For what?

[DJ Envy]

For your opinion on Donald Trump and how you.

[Michael Blackson]

I mean, I don't talk much about it online. Cause my fan base are, like, you know, majority young black people and most of my fan base. So I could try to keep that, you know, keep some stuff to myself.

[Host 2]

Well, how are things at home? You just had another baby?

[Michael Blackson]

Well, I mean, I haven't had one in 18 years. So all of a sudden, you know, a new one comes out.

[DJ Envy]

18 years. Your twins are 18.

[Michael Blackson]

Twins turn 18 and going to college. Yeah, man. Your mother went hit. You had baby when he was six years old. When he came in. Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you just got off child support now you got.

[Michael Blackson]

Just got support, man. Just. Just finally flee my last payment. A whole new nigger comes out. But you know, the thing about. Here's the thing with child support. You know, having kids when you are 25, 26 years old, you know, you was struggling. I think now money is not an issue. So when this money's not an issue, nothing bothers you. I think the most important thing is money.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Michael Blackson]

And, you know, I don't have money problems anymore.

[Host 2]

What. Listen, what made you want to start over?

[Michael Blackson]

I mean, I didn't want to start over. I mean, I just got lazy with my polar game.

[Host 2]

Damn.

[Michael Blackson]

I didn't want. You know what. So the baby was, you know, the twins. It was really bad experience as, you know, co parenting with the mom. We had a really big. We couldn't get along. We were caught fighting. We fighting from the day they were born all the way to, like 18 years old.

[Host 2]

Damn.

[Michael Blackson]

It was really bad, you know, I mean, and Ryder didn't believe how bad it was till, like the last six years. I had her take over the family Wizard. So when you are in family court and you can't get along with your significant other, there's a app called Family wizard where you communicate on the app that way. Yeah, it's a family app where you communicate where you don't have to talk to this lady and then. But the court watches it, so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's like WhatsApp for like baby mamas and baby daddies type.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, exactly. But I mean, court is over now, so I could say now, but I had. I said, you know what, Ryder? You don't believe. You think I'm the problem. I'm gonna have you act like you're me and you communicate with this lady and she found out what a. What's the word I'm looking for?

[DJ Envy]

Meticulous.

[Michael Blackson]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Manipulative.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, that's. I went to Philadelphia public school. You have to excuse me. And she found out. She's like, damn, this woman is really nuts. So I had to communicate with her for the last five years. I didn't. I'm like, you know what? I'm paying you to talk to this lady. I don't want to talk to her. And then she realized that I wasn't a problem. You know, I just had a really crazy. You know, I don't want to talk much about the baby mom, because after all, she did a great job raising my boys. They are a students in college, and I'm very proud of them. And that's one good thing she did. But she did ruin the Bond that I had with my boys. I mean, at least the last five, six years. Really?

[DJ Envy]

Because y' all were always together.

[Michael Blackson]

We're always together. But I mean, got to a point when she got remarried. Got married, not remarried. Because I never, I never married her. Thank God. When she got married and when the relationship was over, she went back to getting on my nerves again. That's why. Please, it's always best, like, let the woman find some dick. Cause dick calms women down. You know what I mean? Like, me and Rada will argue and I'll give her some dick. And then she back to loving and being normal again.

[Host 2]

And Rada is still your fiance. Are you gonna marry her? She gave you a baby?

[Michael Blackson]

No.

[DJ Envy]

You got engaged up here.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, I did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did get engaged a decade ago, right? How long ago was that? How long ago was that?

[Michael Blackson]

Well, she said engagement has expired. Now she need a new ring. Okay, but I mean, every time you look at somebody getting divorced, every day I'm like, you know, I don't be part of this divorce. So you just going to keep proposing? Yeah, we just keep proposing. Looking for a new proposal coming.

[DJ Envy]

So y' all are in a relationship 2021.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, we still together.

[Host 1]

Because, you know, the back and forth that you had online, it kind of confused people. Cuz. Well, you, y', all, you had to come out too when she posted it. Like, she's, like, she's alone. She walks alone or talks alone sometimes. And then you reacted, then you retracted what you reacted with and you talked about FaceTiming her from the road and that was it.

[Michael Blackson]

Well, that was about something else that I'm not ready to talk about yet.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Michael Blackson]

You know, I'm not gonna say she's using postpartum as an excuse, you know, because the way she made it same. And me, I don't. I try not to read too much comments, you know, I just knew when it came out, I had people hit me like, yo, why she acting like, you know, there for herself? Yeah. Like, you know, so without me reading comments or even reading her text message, I went in the defense mode. And like, you know, him, like, don't talk shit about the hands that feed you. Whatever. And I kind of. That's probably. I went a little hard, you know, but we recently, I was bored the last couple of years and I, you know, I did the, I did the, the TV show at Top Earth Studios, which is a four episode pilot. And now we've been waiting for like, we're gonna do this again because this show is probably the most amazing thing that I've done. And I'm like, okay. He said, we're gonna do it again. We just waiting. I said, while I'm waiting, I'm taking on something else. I took on love and hip hop Miami, and it's actually coming out November, and I'm like, the new season. Thank you. I completely took over the show. Like, I'm pretty much called the Michael Blackson show.

[Host 2]

Nice.

[Michael Blackson]

So I took on today. So I said, you know what? Now you're gonna become a reality star. A reality star. And to make it in reality, people like to know what you're going through. So I, you know, and my reply was more to, like, you know, let me make a little bit more famous. Let me go online, just talk shit and let her reply back. Let's go back and forth makeup. And that way she can make. I said, you can make a whole lot of money being reality. So after the fact, I told her. I said, listen, it was. I wasn't. This can come from a bad place. I'm more trying to, like, help you become reality famous. That's why I was hoping we went back and forth, you know, I didn't tell her, let's go back and forth on purpose. I was hoping we went back and forth. But, you know, my team, like, Mike, you know, postpartum is a very serious thing. So don't play with it. Don't talk about it. So I kind of like that.

[Host 2]

I mean, you can talk about it. You just have to, you know, you gotta be there for her. But do you think with her, if she is, you know, going through postpartum depression, is she okay with filming? You think she's gonna be cool on the show?

[Michael Blackson]

I mean, the show is a lot. There's a lot more gonna come on. Did y' all shoot the.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all shot the show already?

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, we started already. We started. We started, but it goes on with Infinity. It goes on through January and then. And then they decide, you know, on the next season. But it's a lot more coming on this show that probably had something to do with the postpartum thing, but I could. I couldn't talk about it. I'm ruining the show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did you mean when you said, if you think making a baby with me will turn me into Russell Wilson, you better try again? Madasaka.

[Michael Blackson]

Well, you know, come on. What's the real scenes that everyone must drink and maybe instead she ended with a step on Diggs instead.

[Host 2]

Jesus, baby.

[Host 1]

On the way that Cardi hopes he'll Be there for Mike.

[DJ Envy]

Who was that? Jesus.

[Michael Blackson]

She picked the wrong football player.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the fuck I got to do with this?

[Host 2]

God.

[Michael Blackson]

Well, I mean, she knew from the door who Michael Blackson was. You know what I mean? You didn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So who is Michael Blackson when it comes to the ladies?

[Michael Blackson]

Well, I mean. And when I became honest with myself, which was after I broke up with the girl before Ryder, and I realized that I just can't be with one person, and I've been honest from the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Door, you know, Is it the African in you? Like, you need more than one.

[Michael Blackson]

I don't know what it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have more than one.

[Michael Blackson]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You need to have more than one wife.

[Michael Blackson]

I mean, one wife might be. I mean, I'm not, You know. I mean, to have more than one wife is either a religious thing or some type of chief. There's a lot to have that. I mean, I love to have more than one wife, but it sounds like a lot of problem, you know, I'm okay.

[Host 2]

Cause you don't want to marry nobody. You just have them there.

[Michael Blackson]

I just. I mean, I don't mind having a one great woman that I know has my back and that. She's the one. She's the one that has my back and does everything for me and do things right. But once in a while, you know, I like to do what I.

[DJ Envy]

Is she okay with that?

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Now, I remember there was a contract that y' all had in place. Do y' all still have a contract? Because remember on that show that we did before you did Love and Hip Hop? Right? The relationship show, there was like an agreement where you're like, look, she gave you a certain amount of women that you can have out the month. And then once you exceed that quota, you in the dog. How it was.

[Michael Blackson]

It was a quota.

[Host 2]

She was.

[Michael Blackson]

It was like once a month. But.

[Host 2]

Once a month? Yes.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, it was once a month. I mean, I kind of, like, started doing two or three times a month.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Michael Blackson]

But what I try to do, I try to keep it, you know, very simple. Maybe like two, three girls that I knew and familiar with. Instead of picking up strangers, you know, you pick up strangers, wake up in the morning, your Rolex is gone. You know, shit is gone. So. And that's the part. And we still arguing about that to today, because most of the chicks that I mess with been around for, like, four or five years, and she felt like that's a relationship as well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What if you had to work in Ghana? You got work in Ghana?

[Michael Blackson]

What do you mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ladies, you got a.

[Michael Blackson]

I had somebody in Ghana.

[Host 2]

Somebody. So just one person.

[Michael Blackson]

Oh, yeah, I had somebody Ghana. But, you know, she's little scam. Potential scammer. I'm not sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jesus.

[Michael Blackson]

Suspect. I'm not, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Reputation.

[Host 1]

She got your credit?

[Michael Blackson]

No, no, no.

[Host 2]

Damn.

[Michael Blackson]

She just full of shit, man. I don't want to get into details.

[DJ Envy]

But let me ask you. I want you to take this wrong way. With everything going on with Diddy, you didn't say, you know what? I don't want to have these multiple relationships outside of my relationship. No, I'm just saying because Diddy got caught up with somebody. That's what I'm saying. It's like with all these women, and now all it takes is one woman.

[Michael Blackson]

To be like, she put two, three, a whole lot. That's a whole lot.

[DJ Envy]

Two, three, a month is a lot.

[Michael Blackson]

No, it's the same people rotate the same people.

[DJ Envy]

You know, you want them to be.

[Michael Blackson]

Like, oh, no, I keep my circle closed. I try to keep my circle closed and intimate that way. No. And I'm very. I treat every woman with respect. I think that's the most important thing. You treat them with respect and always have receipts. You always have receipts. And I have nephew that plays in the NFL, and I got a lot of young guys that plays in the NBA. I tell him, I said, listen, you guys have to be careful. You have. You need receipt for everything you do. If a girl comes and visit you, you know, you walk that girl to the elevator, you give her a hug, the camera's always watching. And when she get home, text her, hey, make sure you got home safe. Always keep a receipt, you know, never leave room for anybody to accuse you of anything. You know how your rapist going to hug you at the elevator, nigga, you know what I'm saying? So besides that, I treat everyone, every. Every person that I'm with, I treat them well and respectful. And you know, that's the key, man. You gotta treat women right and be honest. Be honest and treat them right.

[Host 2]

But see, that was the thing that Ryder had a problem with because she's like, yo, why are you so nice to the girls that I know? You got your two, you're two and three. But she's like, yes, that's where it feels like a relationship, because you're keeping contact, keeping in contact with these girls after you say them. You only see them a few times out the year, but you take care of them like you taking them to breakfast. That's what she was venting to Me about. She like, these bitches don't need to eat. You know what I'm saying?

[Michael Blackson]

Well, that was one issue we had with her. Most hated side chick of mine was in Vegas and we. I was playing at this particular casino and they offered me like dinner and like STK or whatever. And I'm like, okay, I took her to go eat.

[Host 2]

That's a nice ass restaurant.

[Michael Blackson]

And then, you know, the manager of. The manager of the club happened to be a good friends of Ryder. And then this like, you know, doing some geico, texting Ryder here. Mike is here with another. Another girl, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You looking out for her.

[Michael Blackson]

But what I did, you know, that's your girl too. Even when I'm in public, I don't like being public with another woman alone. Cause I would hit somebody, take pictures and get along. So I always make sure I invite two or three. Whether it's homies or girls. I make sure it's more than just me and this person. So one of my homies, I invited one of my homies to come have dinner. I say I'm gay. Come on, dinner on me. SDK, Rich. Come on. Right? So it's even me, him and her, you know. But then he like this little Middle Eastern texting her nigga here with another woman. So we sitting there, this mother try to sneak video to send to her. And then the girl caught onto it, like cursing him out in the restaurant, you know, it was a bigger scene. It became a much bigger scene.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

SCK is a big deal though, man. They got the bag of donuts and the truffle fries and the freaking wagu.

[Michael Blackson]

That's. Man, you can't be going sn. You don't go snitch. We snitching another man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Would I?

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. It depends. Like he. You said that was his home girl though, cuz.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, but still, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not. I wouldn't put that kind of stress on my home girl.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was he gay?

[Michael Blackson]

No. No, he wasn't gay. You're gay, right? Cuz that's what I do.

[DJ Envy]

Got a question now, you said you were in love and hip Miami. Who else is on the cast? Cuz you cast member?

[Michael Blackson]

Same, same. You know, it's Trick Daddy. Of course it's still there. You got Trina is there. Amara is still there.

[DJ Envy]

So you're the new. You're the only.

[Michael Blackson]

I'm like, I'm the new one. Me, of course. R. Now I'm a watch. Yeah, it's very interesting. This, that really my life up. I don't know why I decided to do it, but you know what you.

[Host 2]

Walking into before you get there, Michael.

[Michael Blackson]

You know why Was I bored, man?

[DJ Envy]

So why the fuck your life up.

[Michael Blackson]

Especially being a 25 year old. I'm not. Y' all gotta pay me a lot of money. Let me tell y' all what the fuck. Why it's gonna.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We gonna watch.

[Michael Blackson]

We gonna watch, okay? You have to watch it come out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

November, right?

[Michael Blackson]

November, yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you really miss the birth of your son because you went to go get coffee?

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, so Jesus. Yeah, I did, man. He tried to do that. So mind you, I wanted this kid to be born on Monday because where I'm from, I wanted this kid to.

[DJ Envy]

Be born on Monday.

[Michael Blackson]

I'm Kojob. Kojob is you born on Monday, you're a coach up. So the goal was to then be born on Monday. So we did Monday all day waiting for this little to come out, this little African Chinese to come out, right? And I'm like, it's freezing in the hospital. I hate the cold. You know, I'm, I'm African, warm blooded. It's overnight now when the money's over, not Tuesday. I didn't want this. Got a whole new name now. You know, cuz Tuesday, you are like Quaba. That's the name for the boy. If you're no disrespect to any Ghanaians out there with Kwabina name, you know, in fact one of my homies who's a ex president's son in law, his name is Quabina. He actually live in Jersey. From Jersey and shout out to you, but I'm not named my son Quabina. It just sounds too, you know, Tuesday. What sounds too Tuesday? Too girly. Kwabena sounds girly, right? Oh, so now we don't miss Monday, Ms. Kojo. And now this Quabina I'm liking. When is Quabina coming the fuck out? You know what I mean? So I'm waiting, it's freezing. And then I'm like, I'm gonna grab me something to. I'm get out here, go grab something to eat and drink, whatever. I'll be back. And I left out the hot. The hospital drove like 20 minutes to go find something. You drove? You didn't even walk. Oh no. Hell no. I drove, got in the car, drove, went and got something to eat. And now, and then she texted me like, hey, the baby might be coming soon. I said okay, no problem. Let me put this hospital name in the gps. And I put in a gps, pull up, and it's the wrong hospital. I get to find out there's six of this fucking name. Hospital has six different. The six locations with the same name. So now I'm even further away. As soon as I walk in the hospital, the N already out. He's crying with a little birthmark on his stomach. I knew this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What really happened, Michael? What was her name?

[Michael Blackson]

Damn. Seriously, I was in a whole different. I was in Arizona, that's where she lives. And it wasn't home for me. I ain't got no bitches in Arizona.

[Host 2]

You really was mad upset, like you don't like the cold hospital.

[Michael Blackson]

So you stepped out to get. To get some heat and just go. It was so cold when I got in the car. I didn't even turn the air on. It was 100 degrees in Arizona.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Michael Blackson]

And I kept the air off. I just wanted some heat back in my body. And I came back and I went to the wrong hospital.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Would you have shows there that weekend or something?

[Michael Blackson]

No, I just went there for the baby's birth. She lives there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, she live. Okay.

[Michael Blackson]

We have a home. We have a place in Arizona. That's where she stay. That's what she says. Yeah, yeah. We don't live together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you. Got you.

[Michael Blackson]

What do you mean? Hold time out. I need my sister. We don't live together. We don't live together, man. This is 2025, man.

[Host 1]

Gonna be all right when she see this interview the way you.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, she didn't know. She's seen worse interviews.

[Host 2]

Oh, she did.

[DJ Envy]

So you live in Florida?

[Michael Blackson]

She lived. No, I live. I live in Los Angeles.

[DJ Envy]

So y' all don't live with each other at all?

[Michael Blackson]

Never live together. She comes over, you know, I go over there.

[DJ Envy]

Because you.

[Host 2]

And you.

[DJ Envy]

You asked for her hand in marriage?

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, I mean, we got it together.

[Host 2]

But he asked for her hand in marriage because she wanted to get married. He didn't want to ever get married.

[Michael Blackson]

How you know that?

[Host 2]

Nigga, you told me on the show. This is what it is. We have therapy.

[Michael Blackson]

No, no. We live in different. You know, I prefer living.

[DJ Envy]

So how often do you visit?

[Michael Blackson]

We see each other quite often. At least every other week.

[Host 2]

California, Arizona, Arizona, Miami.

[Michael Blackson]

I have a house back in east in Delaware, so we. And Ghana, so we're all over the place.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got a house in Delaware?

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, I was raised in Philly. I built my house in Delaware, like.

[Host 1]

2007, when we'd be in the mall. You live. I'm not gonna say but when I used to work in the mall.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She's from Delaware.

[Host 1]

Yeah. People used to always be like, michael Blackson was just in here. People like, no, he wasn't like, yes. He wasn't here all the time. So we knew. We just never see you. But we know you.

[Michael Blackson]

There you go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You never had no work in Delaware.

[Michael Blackson]

I did at one point, but nothing serious. My work is mostly like, la Gotcha.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you screwed your face up. Delaware got some baddies.

[Michael Blackson]

I mean, I didn't. I didn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never seen that part of time.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't see.

[Michael Blackson]

I didn't see. I didn't got. At the Delaware. I mean, at the mall, you probably could see some here and there, but I didn't have nobody in there.

[Host 2]

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[Michael Blackson]

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[Michael Blackson]

And how did Gross don't wait for his little old infant to hair to grow. Man, I'm like this baby look like he he Was born with a freaking 200 credit score. This nigga, people like he's struggling, going through two divorce now. He's very adorable. She sent me, you know, when I'm not there, I get a video every day. His hair is slowly growing back. But I think that whole hairline thing is. It's a Ghana thing for some reason like most babies and boys in Ghana are born with like this receding hairline and eventually your hair comes back, you know. So hopefully his shit will come out sooner or later.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Congratulations too for all the investing you're doing back in Ghana.

[DJ Envy]

Man, that's dope.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Built a school. What I seen what's called Treasure Island.

[Michael Blackson]

What about Treasure Island?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that yours?

[Michael Blackson]

No, that's not nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why people were saying that was yours.

[Michael Blackson]

No, no, no. Me and DC Young Fly was planning on doing a retreat at Treasure Island. That's what it was. No, no, no. I mean the school was something I always wanted to do back when I was going back home 20 years ago. I just had to figure it out how I was going to get it done. And when I finally did it, I said to myself, oh God, this is what a legacy is. I didn't know what a legacy was prior to that. I walked in, I see my name on the school and I see the kids are happy and again, free education, free everydays and free that. And I felt like my legacy is finally complete. You know, I feel like it don't matter what happened to me now. I'm like, I feel like I've done something that would be taken away.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, that's big.

[Host 2]

And you hear right now because you here for the New York Comedy Festival.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, actually my first time doing something this mainstream. You know, I never been a mainstream guy. I'm, I'm more, you know, I mean I've never, they never really gave me the opportunity to do something like this. So shout out to the crew, Greg and the rest of the crew from Carolines, you know the other one that put this together, I heard as a.

[Host 2]

Partner of it as well. Okay.

[Michael Blackson]

Yes, I'm excited about doing it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why you think you never got those opportunities?

[Michael Blackson]

You know what I'm. It just never been my thing, you know. But don't get wrong, it's plenty of, plenty of black money, plenty of hood money. I made millions of dollars with my black fans and my underground fans. So, you know, really bother me, man. I mean like I said previously, you know, where in my life is way surpassed what I expected. So I never really try to, you know, if they came after they, you know, came after me, I'll go and get it done. But they never really, like, you know, invited me to, you know, these festivals, so I'm excited about this. I mean, don't get it wrong. I do have white fan base, especially the young college ones, and. And especially from, like, shows like Wild N Out, which is. The fan base are mostly young white kids and black kids. So I get a lot of fan, a lot of race from Wild N Out, shout out to Nick for bringing me on like, a million times on that show. So. But.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And social media, I'm sure, helps to diversify your audience.

[Michael Blackson]

Definitely, you know. So, yeah, I'm excited about the New York Comedy Festival going on the second week in November. So make sure y' all get tickets. Hard Rock, right? Hard Rock, Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You looking at us like we know.

[DJ Envy]

Like we know that. I'm trying to look.

[Michael Blackson]

Is that the Hard Rock?

[Host 2]

I didn't know nothing about it.

[DJ Envy]

She says yes. The venue is Music Row at Hard Rock Hotel, New York city. That's on 48th Street. You need tickets, you can go to nycomedyfestival.com.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, I'm excited about doing this, doing that a lot.

[Host 2]

So you also on your own tour? America's tour?

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, America's tour. Hey, you know, why are you allowed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To say that you're not from America?

[Michael Blackson]

I'm a citizen now. I got my papers. The thing about it, after 30 years in America, I finally became. And I'm glad I did before all these things started happening, you know. In fact, Ryder, don't want to push me to doing it, because prior to that, you know, let me see. I applied for my citizenship about 15 years ago. Took the test, you know, easy test. I studied the test and passed the test, right?

[DJ Envy]

What's happening at.

[Michael Blackson]

Man, I passed the test. And then that day, this motherfucker did not want me to be a citizen that day, you know, because I was, you know, he. They asked. They try to incriminate. He asked me questions where I could easily incriminate myself. He asked me, say, do you owe any taxes or child support or anything? I said, well, I owe taxes, but I'm on a payment plan. So he said, well, before I approve your citizenship, I'd like to see, you know, the history of your payment plan. And I sent this. My payment plan. He said, well, it wasn't consistent enough. So you're not an honest person. So we are denying your citizenship. And once you get denied, you have to wait five years to apply Again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why weren't you consistent enough?

[Michael Blackson]

I have no idea what he meant by that. I mean, I don't know, you know, I thought, I thought I was consistent enough, you know.

[Host 2]

But what accent did you use, Michael? When I was the Philly one or the Ghana one?

[Michael Blackson]

Combination. That's right.

[Host 2]

Dishonest person.

[Michael Blackson]

That's why. So, yeah, so I, and I got so frustrated with it, I was like, you know what? Fuck being an American. As long as I could renew my green card every 10 years, I was okay with going as long as they let me back into work. That's all that mattered to me, you know? But then it's when you're not a citizen, you have to travel to Europe and you have to get a visa. It became so difficult. And when Ryder came in my life, she was the one that pushed me like might get a job like me in America. And she's like, mike, go get it done. And then we found a lawyer and I didn't have to pay this guy, he just wanted like kind of free promotions in exchange for promotion. He set it all up. And I went to did it, did a test in LA. This time I had a young black, 30 year old black man interview me. He was a fan. And big long story short, I became American. Oh, see can't you See by the Star Dundee Life so why do you think Americans.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fuck.

[Host 2]

You don't even know the song.

[Michael Blackson]

Why do you think Americans. What come on is you have a comedian president, man, this guy is doing the funniest shit on earth. And I'm. And it's comedy to me as comedian. I was rooting for him only because it was make our job easier, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was he voting for him?

[Michael Blackson]

I didn't vote. I didn't vote. I'm single. I was voting because I wanted to have a great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You wanted him to be president?

[Michael Blackson]

What do you mean? I went, yes, because I wanted to have. I wanted comedy.

[Host 2]

He was funny. Yeah, he was funny.

[Michael Blackson]

He's comedic president. I mean, there was nothing going to be funny about Kamala. We can't make fun of Kamala. Strong black woman. We need somebody to make fun of. That's why I was rooting for him because I wanted a lot of material and it worked. I mean, this guy, everybody, France. Do you see what France told him? They want a Statue of Liberty back because of Trump. Do you see that? I didn't know the Statue of Liberty came from France after that bitch came from Harlem.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What Dls did when he called you?

[Michael Blackson]

We didn't. No, no, we didn't. We didn't talk about that much. And then last time I talked to DL was, no, actually, he does this comedy thing on Tuesday or Wednesday night in la. And, you know, we talked briefly, you know, but we didn't. When we talk, we. With this, with the stuff about, you know, politics, it's more like we just, like, you know, through social media. Nothing we didn't really communicate about, you know, but, yeah, man, I must say, D, every day he's on. On Trump's ass, I'm like, that ain't gonna get you nowhere. Just hit up Trump what you need from trying to tell the. What you need. You might get it, you know, so it is what it is, man. You know, Go ahead.

[Host 2]

No, I was saying, as a comedian, how do you personally decide when you've gone too far, when somebody else have gone too far, when something is not funny?

[Michael Blackson]

I mean, if. If the person is not laughing at it. I think that's important to me. If I'm gonna make fun of somebody, I think they have to laugh somehow, some way, you know, If Trump came to my show, will he laugh at things I'm saying? Probably. Cause, you know, probably not. Why not? The first thing I say when I get on stage, I say, Trump is running America. Like Suge Knight ran death row in the 90s. That's the first thing I say.

[Host 2]

He would definitely laugh.

[Michael Blackson]

He would laugh at that. That's right, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He probably would ask for us. Did Suge Knight do a good job of running death row in the 90s? And the chances he'll find a way to deport you?

[Host 2]

Damn.

[Michael Blackson]

He can't. That's. That's gonna be a lawsuit. I'm American. You can't just deport me now. I have no criminal record.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, no, that's part of what he's been doing. He's been deporting people who are actually US Citizens or people who've been going through the process.

[Michael Blackson]

Well, I'm. You have to have some kind of criminal record.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He'll find something.

[Michael Blackson]

Well, you'll find me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's it. That's really been the whole. No, that's been the whole thing. That's why people are upset.

[Michael Blackson]

I'm not worried about Trump, man. You know. Hey, I mean, I'm not worried. I have. My thing is. You know. But just. Just say one thing. Whatever he said he's gonna do, he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Does it definitely does it.

[Michael Blackson]

I mean, so. And I mean, what's. You know, you gotta respect a guy. He's. He's Doing what the hell he says he's gonna do. I'm gonna get here, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. He's doing it, you know, and let's just. I mean, it's three or four years left. Just. Let's just figure out what is it that you want from this guy? You want anything from him? Because you don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just want America to be great. I really do. I want America to be great, period. So I'm going to. Whoever's in the office, I'm going to support any president who is truly. No, no, no. Who is truly trying to make this country better. Ain't no thank you. Who's truly trying.

[Michael Blackson]

I mean, don't get it wrong. He did do a few things that I, you know, that, I mean, especially with it. With the ICE situation. I wasn't a big fan of that because, I mean, I think that's what make America what it is, is foreigners coming in here and, and doing things. Of course, you know, people like me who. What I had to go through to become a citizen, took me almost freaking 30 years to become a citizen. So it's not an easy thing to keep a legal, you know, papers. So of course, I don't want nobody coming in here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They can still get you in the Trump era. That's what they've been doing. People who have been wrongly deported because of administrative errors and policy change. Yeah.

[Michael Blackson]

So I mean, if people come in illegally, I'm not approving of that because I didn't come in legally. You know, I came in the right way and I had to keep the right papers to keep renewing it and make sure I'm doing the right thing. So, you know, but I guess just the force they taking and setting people back. It's kind of sad when they're separating fathers from the kids and all that. That's the sad part.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And imagine getting sent back to a country that you're not even from familiar with. At least you would be back in Ghana.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah. Anywhere in Africa, I'd be good. Take me to Liberia, Nigeria, it doesn't matter. I love my continent.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Michael Blackson]

Where you going to go all the time? Oh, have you been there?

[Host 1]

No, I haven't yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was there when you was there. Well, I mean, you there all the time, but I was there that you was there for New Year's. Dirty December one year, like two years ago.

[Michael Blackson]

Oh, okay. Yeah. You have to come.

[Host 1]

People saying that the, the December time is getting like so many people go now that if it's your first time. You might not enjoy it as much.

[Michael Blackson]

No, it's a great time to go because I actually decided to shoot my special this year during that time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In Dirty December. Yes, In Ghana.

[Michael Blackson]

In Ghana, January 3rd is a date. So I decided to go ahead and shoot this one special and give them. Give the people probably the best special they'll probably ever see in her entire life.

[Host 1]

Not to go back to this, but I got a Trump question. In 2016, you did the Vlad interview, and you. When you always joking, but you said you deport yourself if he became president. I did, yeah. But then now your jokes kind of change. Like, what. What is the.

[Michael Blackson]

Because how you find that at Vlad?

[Host 1]

It's 2016. Yeah.

[Michael Blackson]

For real? Yes. Is that a tweet?

[Host 1]

No, it's you comedians.

[Host 2]

I just wonder, like, what made you.

[Host 1]

Change the tone of your jokes?

[Michael Blackson]

Damn. Where was I at 2016?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. You know, the whole of that headline.

[Michael Blackson]

I have no idea how that did. Because I remember 2016. I remember being on vacation in Cancun with my ex before Rada. And I remember. I remember both of us rooting for this guy because it was like, he was an underdog. He would think he was going against Biden. I think that time I was going against Hillary. Was it Hillary?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

21.

[Michael Blackson]

Okay, 21. Hillary. And, you know, and I remember, like, she was saying, you know, if he win, you not be allowed back in America. Something funny she said. I don't remember, but I remember, like, you know, quietly kind of rooting for the underdog. I always been on a dog type of person. Even when I'm watching a super boy, my team is not in. I'm rooting for the underdogs to win, you know, so maybe I was just trying to be funny, you know, But I'm always rooting for the underdogs, no matter who it is. For some reason, I don't know, like, he would.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was definitely the underdog in the election. Nobody expected him to win in 2016.

[Michael Blackson]

Not at all. What.

[Host 1]

What? I feel like. I feel like there were people who, like, we voted for Hillary and we wanted her to win.

[Michael Blackson]

No. Hell, no.

[DJ Envy]

But they thought Hillary was gonna win.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. People thought Hillary was a foregone competition.

[Michael Blackson]

Was at the. The party.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was a celebration party that didn't happen. Yes. Everybody thought Hillary.

[DJ Envy]

I thought she was with Dan.

[Michael Blackson]

You guys just been having bad choices. I mean, God, with this. With this great. This. It's great. This country is. Yeah. The last. It's like there's Nobody that's standing out that you really know, they, you know, whether it's Democrat, Republican, nobody's really out there that you guys ever felt comfortable with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You guys, you.

[Michael Blackson]

You never been happy with nobody. You never wasn't a fan of Hillary.

[Host 1]

You're just not happy.

[Michael Blackson]

You just can't nothing make you happy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was cool. I like Hillary.

[Michael Blackson]

You did?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I like Hillary.

[Michael Blackson]

You like Biden too?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I never like Biden.

[Michael Blackson]

Okay. All right, so if you got Biden and Trump, then we gonna pick. Exactly. Too many great choices. You saying? I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But listen, I want to go back to what you said about Ghana.

[Michael Blackson]

Right, right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Performing your stand up in Ghana, do you think Africans and African Americans laugh at the same jokes or do you gotta.

[Michael Blackson]

No, of course not. But that's why I'm doing it during that time where it's gonna be people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

From different parts of the world.

[Michael Blackson]

I'm not gonna trust my stand up with just straight. My G are very. They are strict. They are like, you know, very conservative. And I would not want to do that to my special. So that time of the year, there are people from Canada, London and the United States all in Ghana. So my goal is to capture all the diaspora and perform for them. And hopefully I'm hoping plus I'll be challenging myself. I like a challenge, you know, so I'm looking forward to it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever tried Ghana?

[Michael Blackson]

I mean, stand up in Ghana, I've never shown Ghana. Nigeria, Nigeria is more lean, Nigeria is more open. They're more free. You know, Ghana, you might be a little more, you know, certain things, you know, they're not too much on it. A lot, too much of my hardcore.

[Host 2]

No, but he just get quiet.

[Michael Blackson]

No, no, no, no. I mean, if I said don't get. If I see a joke they didn't like, they, you know, they probably won't laugh at it, but I just move on to the next. And like, that wasn't even the punchline, you know, you have to like, learn how to make adjustments on stage. You know, I'm like a football player, man. If the defense ain't working, you change the defense, you know, I mean, you change your offense. You know, you go into the huddle, you know, into a shotgun permission instead of a running back position. So you gotta. You got as a professional doing this for 30 years. You have to learn how to make adjustments on stage and in life, period. And I think I've learned how to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Speaking of football, are you really Eli Apple's uncle?

[Michael Blackson]

Eli Apple is My nephew. How about that? I came in before that nigga. Okay, but he's my nephew. I mean is he really my like he's this big. I'm the star. He's the little nephew, nigga. Okay, now I'm his uncle. Yes. My youngest sister's son. Wow. Oh, wow.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Eli.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cornerback, right, for the cornerback.

[Michael Blackson]

He was your number one draft pick in 2016. I was at the draft pick. Actually that's the year the Eagles selected the guy. That's. He's now with Minnesota. Now. God damn. I quickly forget, but I was there for that draft 2016 in Chicago, NFL draft. My little nephew Eli Apple was selected 10th pick by the New York Giants. I never forget that day I became a Giants fan. It was the 10th pick, 10th pick overall, man.

[DJ Envy]

Giants fan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you lean on him when you opened the school like all right now?

[Michael Blackson]

Oh no, man, I never lean to nobody, man. I've been doing, I've been taking care of the school myself. And the only time I actually decided to even open up a non profit was an issue I had, you know, with the last government of Ghana. They gave out these bonds, I don't know if you heard about it, give out these. It's called euro bonds. So Euro bonds is like, is a bond where the money stays in whatever currency you put it in, you know, so if we, whether it's euro or pounds or dollars, it stays in that currency. And it was paying very high interest rate, like 10 something crazy. And that's what I had decided to do in paying for the school for life. I said, okay, what's going to take to sustain the school for the lifetime? And I figure out when the school is completely filled up, we should in two more years gonna be filled up. Right now every year I bring in like 20 kids. So in about two years it'll be like a 200 and I'm a max out there. I said when there's 200 kids, if it's gonna cost me like $10,000 a month, which is very reasonable if you hear. But you know Ghana and most part of Africa. The good and bad thing about it is labor is very cheap. So you could have four to pay employees, you know. And like I said, I could run the whole school for ten grand a month. And I said how can I get ten grand a month for a lifetime? And then they had his bonds, the euro bond that's paying 10% interest rate. And I'm like, okay, it's a million dollars. I put a million dollars in there get and every give me $10,000 a month. And once they expire after three years, I renew it again and again, right? So I send a million dollars to my continent, to my country. And I said, okay, let me now the school be set.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Interest will pay for it.

[Michael Blackson]

Interest pay for it. So I got the, who got like one, two payments and then payment stopped and then, and I'm, I hit up the financial guy there. I'm like, what's going on? He said, well, just having some issues, so, but everything's gonna be okay. Two years later, no payment. And then they say between Kovid and Ghana owes China money. You know, it's all on that last government. I'm not gonna blame you on the country. Ghana is a great country. And, and this issue has never happened in the history of Ghana where they fuck up your bonds. Bonds is like, should be really strong. If bonds go run America, the government will come in and pay for it, take care of it. So then they like you know, two years, no payments. So now I'm coming up with new money, making these payments, you know. And then right before the election, they decided to make a decision on the bond. They said, okay, we decided that we are restructuring the bonds. You have two options. Either take one or we take one for you. So option number one, you lose 37% of money. You give them. Your 10, 10% interest rate is now 5%, right? And your three four year bond is now an 11 year bond, meaning to hold your money for 11 years. Option number two, you don't lose no percentage. But your 10% interest rate is now 1.5% and your three year bond is now 15 year bond. So I went on Twitter and I lit them up. I mean I lit them so hard. I think I was probably the cause of the last government losing election because they became worldwide, you know, because I, you know, they knew I did it for the school and you know, and then, and so I had to pick one eventually. I mean I picked the one that don't lose no percentage because I said as long as that money is there, I could always fight for it, you know. So now instead of getting ten grand a month, it's like whatever, fifteen hundred dollars a month, you know. So that was really pissed about that. So now when that happened, I said, okay, I gotta maybe open up some kind of nonprofit and maybe try to raise the rest of the money in that way and make sure the school goes on for life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You did it.

[Michael Blackson]

I mean I open up a non profit, but as long as I'm working. I'm still paying out of my pocket. People want to send monies up to them. I don't. I'm not. I've never been a beggar, you know, even though nonprofit is rich people that have those nonprofit. But me, for some reason, just something in me just hate asking for anything, you know. Cause if I say I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do it. And I'm working there, I'm making money, you know, so I'm paying it. And when that time comes, you know, I'll go back for money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, that's dope, man. When did you start realizing, like, okay, I can be, I can clown around, but I gotta get my mogul on too?

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, it's when I went back home around December, like the 2019. And when I was like, you know, and I saw kids during school hours in the marketplaces helping their mother sell food. And I'm like, why are these kids not in school? Because I know in America, if kids aren't in school, parents get in trouble. And then I found out that, you know, sometimes they can't afford to go to school. But how about public schools? Public schools are called government schools in Africa, and there's only a few of them. And it fills up really fast. And once it fills up, you can't go to school. You can't afford private schools. You can't go to school. So then I say, I gotta do something. At least I'm start off in my village. At least where my life started, you know, and started doing it and made it happen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's dope. Isn't job building a school too? Ankai in Ghana. Ja rule.

[Michael Blackson]

Yeah, he didn't. He, he, he. I guess he builded. He. He added to what the school already had.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay. He added.

[Michael Blackson]

He added some more like classrooms, I think.

[Host 1]

I've never been to Nigeria.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nigeria.

[Michael Blackson]

Okay. Okay.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What makes you more money right now, Michael? Telling jokes or being Michael Blacks in the brand.

[Michael Blackson]

Us Stand up. Stand up it is right now. You know, I mean, that's one thing. That's the great thing about stand up. They could never take that away from us. You know, as long as you build a fan base, you could tell these jokes for life. Even at this point, like, you know, 2016, 2015, I was hot as hell. I mean, I was going to doing like 10, 15 shows on a weekend and making crazy money. And like now when I built the school, I kind of like toned down a little bit. Cause I was really crazy online. Teddy Twosie Twerking, Thursdays, all that shit. And you can't have a school and have a titty toosie, you know what I mean? So I slowed down, you know. And I remember I ran into this kid the other day, said, damn, Mike, you fell off because I'm not doing titty toosie. Better think about it. You have to set the bar so high. You have to set the bar so high in your life when you become an entertainer that even when you quote unquote, fall off, you're still making good money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Plus, people don't want you to grow up if they used to seeing you a certain way and you doing things a certain way, you to stay on that.

[Host 1]

The day you put a shirt under your jacket is just different for us.

[Michael Blackson]

That's just my style. Why you looking at my chest?

[Host 1]

You always got it out. I just, it's always out there.

[Michael Blackson]

I don't know. I see you in Delaware.

[Host 2]

I don't even be there.

[DJ Envy]

Michael Blackson, ladies and gentlemen. You can catch him at New York Comedy Festival and we always appreciate you joining us.

[Michael Blackson]

Thanks for having me.

[DJ Envy]

Michael Blackson.

[Michael Blackson]

It's the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning.

[Michael Blackson]

Every day I wake up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake your ass up.

[Michael Blackson]

The Breakfast Club. Y' all done?

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[Host 2]

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