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DJ Envy
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Charlamagne tha God
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DJ Envy
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Neon
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Charlamagne tha God
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
Just Hilarious
The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Content creator Streamer Neon, ladies and gentlemen.
Neon
Hello. Hello. How you guys doing?
Charlamagne tha God
How are you young man?
Neon
Doing great. I mean, you know, I've never done anything productive this early in the morning, so this is new to me.
Charlamagne tha God
Oh, you don't get up this early?
Neon
No, never. My stream's usually at like 2pm There's a lot of people. Holy. She's like, it's interesting.
Lauren LaRosa
You're 20 years old, y' all don't get up early.
Charlamagne tha God
Now before we go any further with this conversation, somebody brought this to my attention a little while ago, like about a couple hours ago. What's the beef with you and my guy Kaiser? Not cuz, you know, I'm Team Kai.
Neon
I'm Team Kai too. Shout out to Kai.
Charlamagne tha God
Mafia?
Neon
You're part of the Mafia?
Charlamagne tha God
Yes.
Neon
You're a sub on Twitch.
Charlamagne tha God
I don't even know what that means.
Just Hilarious
You don't even know what that means.
Neon
Oh, if he had Twitch, he would.
Charlamagne tha God
Be part of the Mafia.
Neon
Shout out to Kai. So a few, a few years ago, me and Kai had a little back and forth. This is like when I was like very secluded in my house and I was just very like, you know, I just like talk to everyone. So me and him had like a really big back and forth. But you know, over what though? Over just like just me, like just being like me at the time, like just saying dumb shit. Trolling, talking, trolling. Exactly. And you know, obviously that didn't really get me anywhere. So it was just a thing. It wasn't just him, it was everyone. Like there's a lot of people. I just like I just went out and I just said crazy shit because that's what I thought was funny at the time. And I was just like an immature little kid. I didn't really understand anything.
Just Hilarious
But it worked for you at the time? People watching.
Neon
I feel like always like being toxic and like having the shock factor always works. But like, I know. Is that what you're on?
Just Hilarious
It also gets punched in the back of the head too. Say that. Say I'm not.
Neon
You know what's crazy? I've never been punched in the head.
DJ Envy
You walk around with security, that's cause.
Lauren LaRosa
Your ass be in a house. That's what happened. No, that's cause you was in a house.
Neon
Oh, back then, yeah.
DJ Envy
Your videos in New York, you heavy secured up.
Neon
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Because you know, I'd rather just be safe than sorry. This world's a very fucking.
Charlamagne tha God
You know. They can see the guy behind you, right?
Neon
Oh, that's great.
Charlamagne tha God
That's great.
Neon
I can't curse on here, right? Yes.
Charlamagne tha God
Yeah, you can.
Neon
Oh, I can't, man. What the. Okay, all right, bet.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, so what happened?
Charlamagne tha God
What happened?
Lauren LaRosa
There's one specifically wet happened with you and Kai. What was it?
Neon
So he said like something little. I think it like at the time, it pissed me off.
Charlamagne tha God
And then what do you say?
Neon
Well, I don't really, you know, remember the exact details. Years ago I got short term memory loss, but. And then I said something back.
Charlamagne tha God
What'd you say?
Neon
I'm not gonna repeat it. You know, I don't want to repeat it because it was. It was messed up. And I would never say anything like that again.
Charlamagne tha God
We know what he said.
Lauren LaRosa
He said it about his mom.
Charlamagne tha God
What?
DJ Envy
Yeah, go ahead, say what he said. Josh.
Lauren LaRosa
He said that you would fuck his mom and that she's a fat Harriet Tubman bitch.
Neon
Yeah.
Charlamagne tha God
Jesus Christ. Not only did you disrespect Kai's mother, you disrespected Harriet Tubman.
Neon
Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, like I said at the time, it wasn't really a thing where like I just did whatever. Like, what came to mind? Like, I was just like the shock factor. Like I wasn't thinking. Obviously, now that I'm in the real world now I'm going out and experiencing stuff. That's not something okay to say at all.
Just Hilarious
How old were you at the time?
Neon
I don't know. This was. Does anyone have that? How old is I?
Charlamagne tha God
You're 20 now.
Just Hilarious
This was before COVID During COVID I.
Lauren LaRosa
Think it was after Covid.
Neon
I think after.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, I think after it wasn't really like that long. Long, long.
Neon
Well, no, I feel like. I feel like I've speed around life this past like two years. I feel like I've lived like five to 10 years. Like I've ran through so much because before then when I was at home, I was just so, like, I was so secluded and I just didn't know much about anything at all. I was just like, go to school.
Lauren LaRosa
How did you know about Harriet Tubman?
Neon
Well, I mean, I got the. I got the Internet. I got the Internet.
Charlamagne tha God
Okay, well, did you feel that comfortable?
Neon
Because I never experienced a real life situation. I've never gone and said like, until that time, I never said anything, anything in anyone's face. Like, I barely even went to school. So it was just a thing where I was just like in my basement in a secluded area with the desktop set up there, just thinking and I could say whatever. So you understanding the meaning of any.
Charlamagne tha God
Of it so you can f somebody's mom and then using like Harriet Tubman as a slur?
Neon
Well, it's not the right thing to do, obviously. So you.
Just Hilarious
So you were the person online that a lot of people on social media hate, right? Cause you just troll people all day and they wish to catch you in person.
Neon
Yeah.
Just Hilarious
So when did that change for you?
Neon
Yeah, you know, I feel like, like in my streaming career, I've had a lot of moments where it's like, it's just like mind. Like I changed my mind. Like, especially like when I went to jail in Dubai for something streaming. Like, I. Like it was a real life situation. I was like, damn. Like. Like this stuff have consequences. Like the stuff I do.
Just Hilarious
What did you go to jail for?
Neon
People that don't know in Dubai? Yeah, you know, people that I had like, like heated sheets and shit. It was, it was not like that at all. It was really like. It was cool. It was a good experience and I wouldn't like change that for anything. But it was, it was what got you in jail. It was even bad. Like, it wasn't that bad. I was just streaming in an area where like, I wasn't really allowed to stream. But they gave me. But they gave me permission. So someone gave me permission they weren't supposed to. And then it was a whole thing. At the airport. I got arrested. They put me in a transport vehicle.
Lauren LaRosa
So your ass got set up, basically. I told you that you could and you couldn't.
Just Hilarious
How long you in jail for?
Neon
2 and a half days.
Just Hilarious
2 and a half days.
DJ Envy
I got you, right?
Just Hilarious
So let's go back.
Charlamagne tha God
Have you publicly apologized to Kai?
Neon
Yeah, like probably like 4 times. And I also DM'd him too.
Charlamagne tha God
Have you publicly apologized to Kai's mother?
Neon
Yes.
Charlamagne tha God
Have you publicly apologized to Harriet Tubman in her family?
Neon
No, but I probably should.
Lauren LaRosa
That's my aunt.
Neon
Oh, wow. I don't give a fuck. No, no, no, no, no. I just, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't know what to say to that. Yeah, but I just want to say, man, apart for disrespecting your aunt, I'm so sorry for that.
Just Hilarious
Have you spoke to Kai System, Kai's.
Neon
Sister Kai, since that. No, no, no, I haven't. And if I did see him face to face, would be the same thing. Would be a, you know, a grown man apology. Like, you know, for. Cuz it's crazy because I've meet all these people who I've like talk shit about and all this stuff and then when I see them in person, it's just like, like I apologize. Like it's not like a thing where I try to act hard and be like I'm standing on it, doubling down. Like, it's a thing where I'm like, you know, I, I apologize and I man up and like people make fun of me in my chat too and they're like, you're on an apology tour and whatever. But like I want to make my wrongs right.
Charlamagne tha God
So accountability is important.
Lauren LaRosa
Absolutely.
Charlamagne tha God
Is that why Kai's man Ray wanted to fuck you up?
Neon
Well, I think he wants to. He wants to box me.
Charlamagne tha God
And I saw, I saw. What was it that was that screaming university when, when y' all ran into each other?
Neon
No, I didn't get, I didn't get invited to streaming promo.
Charlamagne tha God
Prom.
Lauren LaRosa
Prom.
Neon
Yeah, yeah, I was at the prom. First ever prom actually.
Charlamagne tha God
And Ray was like, now you gotta apologize to Kai.
Neon
Yeah. And then in that clip, I did exactly what I apologized because I wanted to not. Cuz like he pressed me and I'm like, no, like, like I'm getting bitched. Whatever. Like it's because I genuinely wanted to. And I did it again like I, you know, like I did before. But he said he wanted to box me for $1 million.
Charlamagne tha God
Yeah, I saw that on impulsive with.
Lauren LaRosa
Can you box?
Neon
Can I box? Of course. Look at me.
DJ Envy
Oh yeah, we did.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm looking. That's why I said can you. Okay, so is that going to go down? We going to see that fight?
Neon
Well, you know, I actually could get offer for more than that. I Just like, the thing about boxing is you have to be, like, locked in for months. So, like, I, like, my craft is streaming. I love this. Like, I wouldn't give it up for the world. So, like, you have to, like, give it up for some time and lock in, like, early mornings, like, training camp.
Charlamagne tha God
So show us that on the screen.
Neon
Yeah, it's boring after a while. It's like, you know, who wants to see, like, an Indian guy just punch the thing all day? Like, it gets a little boring.
Charlamagne tha God
Oh, you're Indian.
Neon
Pindian.
Charlamagne tha God
Pindian.
Neon
Pakistani and Indian. Yeah.
Charlamagne tha God
Oh, okay, okay.
Neon
I'm mixed breed.
Lauren LaRosa
So look, did your. What did your parents have to say about that whole exchange? Like, were they supporting you and rooting for you when you came out the gate trolling?
Neon
Oh, no, no, no, no. For sure not. Because it started to affect our personal life. Like, their personal life too. Like, even my sister, like, her friends, like, they're like, your brother's a weirdo. Like, he's saying, like, it was bad because, like, you know, the bad thing about me is, like, everything was on the Internet from such a young age. So it was like, everything that I've done, everyone's seeing it. Like, my parents are really religious at the mosque, the people are talking about it. And even at that time, I didn't realize. Like, I just kept going because I didn't realize what I was doing. And it, like, I don't know what clicked in my head, but it clicked. And then, like, I just, like, fully just, like, changed everything. But my mom was like, yeah, at first she was like, no. Like, I don't want you streaming under my roof. Like, this can't happen. And I just kept doing it because I was an idiot.
Charlamagne tha God
They kicked you out?
Neon
No, they didn't know. My. My parents, they love me so much. They've never kicked me out. But it was just, like, no one, like, thought I could do this as a job. And like, just the things I was doing was just so, like, vulgar and just, like, too far to where. Like, it wasn't respectable in our community.
Charlamagne tha God
So how did you feel like Allah felt?
Neon
Not good. Not good. That's why, like, you know, I try to be a lot more religious now. Try to, like, you know, even tell the chat and all the people about religion. Like, you know, go towards God, seek God and stuff. And then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bad, bad, bad point in my life.
Charlamagne tha God
I think. I think he should apologize. This is the Breakfast Club. I think he should have used this big platform to apologize to Kai once again and his Mom. And just, you know, of course, I don't know if that'll put it to rest, but.
Neon
Yeah, I think it already is put to rest. And I think, you know, he understands. And like, I've already apologized like five different times, so like it's. And, and you know, I repeatedly say it because I genuinely mean it. And like I said if he was. Like, if you were him right now, I would just. I would say the same thing. Yeah, well, you're not him. I know, but it's right there when I apologize. I want to actually, like, like, man to man. Like, you can only say it so many times through a camera for it to be like. It's just not. Like you want it to be a failure.
Lauren LaRosa
You want it to be genuine, a one on one thing.
Neon
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Have you invited him to ever meet up with you so that can happen?
Neon
It's just gonna. It's just a thing where if like you run into him, it's just gonna, like.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, yeah.
Neon
Cause I did say. The thing is, I did say like really crazy things. And like, a lot of people, like, it's not just him. Like, there's so many people. I've said a lot of stuff. You know, a lot of people learn to forgive me. Like there's a situation I had with you guys on Dub and Dub, ddg's brother.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Neon
And then. So like, I. I know ddg, but.
Charlamagne tha God
I don't know the brother.
Neon
Okay. But there's something I said too. And then, you know, when I. And he was really mad at me, he was gonna. He wanted to press me, he wanted to like literally punch me. But when I saw him face to face apologizing, and it was dead.
Just Hilarious
Now, we heard an audio of you this morning. I don't know if it was as. Cause my son says sometimes you lie just to create things. The audio was talking about, I guess one of the worst group of people.
DJ Envy
His least favorite race.
Lauren LaRosa
So I wanted to ask you, what is your least favorite race?
Neon
I don't have one.
Lauren LaRosa
Be honest.
Neon
I don't have one.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, so why was that a question that you decided to ask somebody?
Just Hilarious
You talked about somebody, an assistant or something? What was it? An assistant that worked for his dad.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Neon
And then she was lazy.
Lauren LaRosa
He fired. He said his dad fired one of his black employees because she was lazy. And then she came back after she.
Neon
Was fired and had her boyfriend. I remember that. Is that a true story? Yeah, I swear it is. So my dad's deep into like the, the. The phone business. He was back then. And Then he got. We got robbed so many times, and then we just, you know, he just fully stopped the business. But yeah, that was the situation. That was the actual real situation.
Lauren LaRosa
You were only robbed by black people?
Neon
No. No.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, so you don't have a least favorite race?
Neon
No.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay.
DJ Envy
You know why they're asking you that like that? Because the video gave that black people he knows why. Oh, I can play it. I got it.
Charlamagne tha God
Damn.
Lauren LaRosa
He had asked. It was somebody that he was streaming with, and he was like, what's your least favorite race? And the guy was like, I don't have one.
Neon
What's your worst experience with a race? Who's that streaming with?
DJ Envy
Yeah, this is a clip. I don't know who you're streaming with.
Neon
You know, I have a really bad story, but what's your story?
DJ Envy
That was the first one.
Neon
Then another flag, like in what I don't mean to be racist. And another black guy. My dad fired her. She's, you know, lazy and stupid.
DJ Envy
Second.
Neon
Oh, my God, that's brutal. Place his cell phone store. I swear to God. You're not cabing. So you just like, now you just make assumptions? Yeah. Then like every time my mom sees a black guy, she walks in door. Bad trolls.
Charlamagne tha God
So you said a black guy. Fire. You said a. You said my dad. You said a black guy when you said my dad fired her.
Lauren LaRosa
It was a black woman.
Neon
Yeah.
Just Hilarious
Misgendered. He was just.
Charlamagne tha God
He was. I'm just trying to figure out how many people did he insult in that one thing.
DJ Envy
It was two different people or three. Because you said it was the black person. There was the first one. Then it was the second one. The person that worked for your dad, that was a woman. She was lazy. And then her boyfriend came and robbed.
Lauren LaRosa
This the jewelry store?
Neon
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Or something. Your dad owns a jewelry store?
Charlamagne tha God
So black people are.
Neon
No, no, no. Cell phone store. Yeah.
DJ Envy
Okay.
Charlamagne tha God
Black people are your least favorite race?
Neon
No.
Lauren LaRosa
Were they ever?
Neon
No. Okay. I love everyone. I'm all about the people.
Charlamagne tha God
How old were you in that video?
Lauren LaRosa
18.
Neon
18 probably.
Charlamagne tha God
Damn. Two years ago.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Neon
I don't think y' all don't understand. Like, this last two years, it's been like. Like it feels like so much longer. Like before then, I had. I didn't, like, go deal with anything. I didn't go through anything at all. But this last two years, like, it just like feels like your life was.
Lauren LaRosa
Nice for you not to have to go through.
Neon
I'm blessed. I'm blessed. You know, my parents, they came here with nothing. They worked really hard. And they gave me like whatever I wanted in life. I'm not like, I'm not gonna like lie and say like, you know, I had like a tough upbringing or anything. You know, my parents.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, yeah, we know that. We, we know. We could tell.
Neon
Okay.
Charlamagne tha God
Parents racist. Huh? Are your parents racist? No, I'm just trying to figure out like where, like using Harriet Tubman as a slur and you know, the things you said on that video. I'm just wondering like, you know, what, what was your perception?
Neon
So you got. You guys do understand, like, so first off, trolling. Trolling is not okay. Right, but they're like, a lot of people have like, like back then, like as. Even if it's as a joke, it's not, it's not good to do. But Streamer World, YouTube World, whatever it is. Like people make jokes like that. But like back then before, like only.
Lauren LaRosa
About one race of people.
Neon
No. Oh no, you got to see my. No, no, ma'. Am. You got to see my clips. My clips. I. So no, I'm not gonna repeat it.
Charlamagne tha God
But.
Neon
But there's no, there's not like, there's no, there's no singling out. There's none of that. I was just insanely toxic. I make jokes about, I made jokes about Indians, everyone. Like any race you can imagine. It's not like singling out.
Charlamagne tha God
So you can do that.
Neon
Yeah, but. Yeah, that's why. Well, I shouldn't do it in general, but I'm just saying, like, that was what I like that was my thing. Like I try to have that shock factor and I. And I was being an idiot at home, but it wasn't.
Just Hilarious
Anybody ever put hands on you? Pull up to your crib or nothing like that?
Neon
I got jumped on stream, but they didn't touch me. But it was jumped. I was in a Sprinter outside of my house. They found out my location through a painting on. And they were. Google Reverse searched it. They found my house. There's six guys with masks and they, they didn't see me in the Sprinter. They saw my ex manager at the time and they just, they were. They just jumped him and they just stomped his face.
DJ Envy
That was a year.
Lauren LaRosa
So they attempted to jump you but they got your manager?
Neon
Yeah, they didn't. They didn't see me in the Sprinter.
Charlamagne tha God
You didn't help? Oh, you stayed in the Sprinter?
Lauren LaRosa
Hell no. His ass. I help. I mean, we wouldn't be talking to him right now.
Neon
Yeah, yeah, it's. LA is a dangerous place.
Just Hilarious
Did they forget who it was? What it about.
Neon
I still don't know who did it.
DJ Envy
You posted it on your YouTube channel.
Neon
I still have no idea. Yeah, no, we were live. We were live. So you just feel like, I don't run that YouTube channel. It's run by a live editor. So everything, I guess everything for my stream gets automatically posted on YouTube.
Charlamagne tha God
You think all publicity is good publicity?
Neon
No. And I used to lie to myself and say that after. After a situation from. From. From way back then, but it's definitely not. I used to, like, just try to, like, make myself believe it was. But, yeah, definitely no.
Lauren LaRosa
I asked my son about you. Obviously, he watches streamers and he knew who you were, and I asked him, like, I said I didn't know anything, you know, about you. And he said, well, he faked his death a couple times, and I immediately felt sorry for you before doing all this research and saying that you just was a fucking troll, that I thought that you were having maybe identity issues or anything, you know, something that would make you fake your death at some point. Because, you know, you. You know, real people actually, like, go through these things, of course, where they. They feel suicidal, they want to take. They feel like they're not enough, you know, and at very young ages. So I'm like, damn, maybe he was struggling with some personality disorders or just trying to fit in or whatever. And you doing the shit for what, Just clout or what?
Neon
Like, at the. At the time, yes. But this is something that was like, well, can anyone pull up the date?
Lauren LaRosa
Like, but you did it a few times, though, right?
Neon
So what were the few? So, no, there was. I did. I did it when I was, like, 15. Okay. And obviously. And, you know, people say, like, you know, I. You know, I go by the motto, I don't live with regret. But that's one of the regrets I do have, because at the time, yes, I was looking for clout, and I didn't realize what I was doing. And I was a kid, first off. Keep in mind, I was a kid.
Lauren LaRosa
Keep in mind kids kill themselves.
Neon
And I understand that 100%, and that's why I use my platform to entertain people and advocate for people to, you know, just certain things. But, yeah, I didn't. That's one. That's definitely a regret I have.
Charlamagne tha God
Did anybody care?
Neon
They did. They did. And then. But it just. It just didn't. Like, obviously. And in the time, too, I'm like, oh, my God, it's going crazy. But there's no. There was no real plan that just shows how dumb of a Kid, I was. If you die, you can't come back, right? Like, I was. Obviously, I was never gonna quit YouTube, so, like, nothing was clicking right in my head. I was just doing.
Just Hilarious
How much do you make? You would say roughly on YouTube when streaming. In totality.
Neon
Oh, like right now, of course. You know, I think. I think I'm doing a little good for myself. I have a long way to go.
DJ Envy
So he make money. That's. That's a man make money.
Just Hilarious
Million a month. Less.
Neon
More.
Charlamagne tha God
Some of y' all be lying, man.
Neon
I would never lie about my. No, okay.
Charlamagne tha God
Million a month.
Lauren LaRosa
He been doing this shit for a while.
Neon
Hey, man, how much.
Just Hilarious
How much you think you make a month? Just ballpark.
Neon
I will just say some of these deals get crazy, but it's not like. Like, on Twitter, like, they say, like, 30 mil, 50 mil a year. Like, it's none of that, but it's. It's still. It's still great.
Charlamagne tha God
Okay, so. So you said deal. So a lot of that money that people make are through sponsorships.
Neon
Yes. Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
That's what a real money comes in at.
Neon
Yeah.
Charlamagne tha God
So. So forget this. If it was no sponsorships, no nothing, and you was just screaming, how much do those people make? It's the people that's just screaming. Average.
Just Hilarious
Doesn't have to be you, just the average. So. So people can understand what it is.
Neon
Like, at my viewership.
Charlamagne tha God
Yeah.
Neon
If I didn't have any deals or anything, like a few hundred K, but the deals are, like, the majority, so it's still good, but, like, without the sponsorships and, you know, it took me a while to even get deals and stuff because I was so, like, hated, you know, rightfully so, but I was so hated and stuff. But, you know, now I'm slowly working to it to a different path. So.
Charlamagne tha God
So brand safety was a thing they didn't want to be a part of?
Neon
Oh, no, no. No one wanted to be a part of anything I did at all.
Charlamagne tha God
So when did they start wanting to be a part of it?
Neon
I think, like, probably these past few. Like, these past few months. Like, maybe, like the past, like, six months. It's been. It's been a lot different. So.
Charlamagne tha God
So what are you getting paid for right now? This hoodie? The drink? What?
Neon
Oh, no, none of this.
Charlamagne tha God
Okay, okay.
Neon
Yeah, sponsor me. Celsius Spider. Shout out to thug. But, yeah, none of this.
DJ Envy
That's crazy with the faking and deaf. It was a brain tumor you were talking about.
Neon
Yeah. You know what's crazy? At the time, I didn't. I Didn't even know what a brain tumor really was.
DJ Envy
You know what's crazy is my mom's a stage for brain cancer survivor.
Neon
Yeah. That's amazing.
DJ Envy
I went through that in real life.
Neon
That's amazing.
Charlamagne tha God
Shout out.
DJ Envy
I'm just sitting here, like, I don't even think you understand. Like, that is. So I looked up, like, what did you say you died for? What was the. And then I saw that my heart drop. I'm like, man, I experienced that in real life.
Neon
I'm so sorry. I had to deal with that. She's okay, and I'm glad she's okay.
DJ Envy
Sorry, but that's crazy. I'm so happy you've arrived here. But at the moment. Because it was heavily criticized at the moment, you didn't. In that moment, you didn't realize, like, okay, this is. I should get away from the trolling. Like, what was the last straw if I'm done with the crazy trolling?
Neon
You know, I don't. Like I said before, I don't remember what clicked in my head, but something definitely clicked in my head to realize that it's not, like, the path I want to go on.
Lauren LaRosa
Is it the fact that you have, what, Crohn's disease yourself?
Neon
Yeah. Well, no.
Lauren LaRosa
What? Has that ever been a thing for you?
Neon
Of course I do. Yeah. I don't know. I definitely do. I definitely do.
Charlamagne tha God
Crohn's was a clothing line.
DJ Envy
That's chrome hearts.
Charlamagne tha God
That's called Crohn's.
Neon
Crohn's. So, yeah, that's why I didn't really go to school, because I was in and out the hospital. True story. Actually, this is real. But, yeah, I had, like, really, Really. I still do. Like, Crohn's is never. Is never healed. But I was just hospitalized. I couldn't go to school. That's why, like, that was a reason too. I was very sheltered. Like, I literally used a fake robot. Like, a robot walked through the school. It was like a new thing that they did in the school, and it and the robot, like, went to classes for me. So for, like, huh. Yeah, it was. It was crazy.
Just Hilarious
But I had a camera go class.
Neon
And then to graduate, I didn't go to school the last two years to graduate the school. Like, they helped me out, and I just had to, like, do, like, two project or, like, one project for each class, and they let me graduate.
Charlamagne tha God
What does chromes do to you? Your body?
Neon
It's just, like. It's like really heavy inflammation. So, like, they were gonna take my colon. I was gonna have to, like, have a bag and through the bag. But we went. We got like a bunch of multiple, like, different opinions and stuff. And then I went on this new medication. It saved me.
Charlamagne tha God
So really, I got the out.
Neon
Yeah.
Charlamagne tha God
Let me smell your breath.
Just Hilarious
What is wrong with you?
Lauren LaRosa
He was really about to blow.
Charlamagne tha God
Listen, I mean, I do want to say I'm glad that you learned early what so many people, including myself, learn late. You know what I mean? Because there is no value in shock. And if you. If you didn't make the pivot, you probably was going to end up getting punched in the face or even worse nowadays, you know, and. And like you said, you know, you wouldn't have the career that you have now because now you're getting brand deals and stuff like that. So, you know, I'm never going to judge a young person for what they did when they were. When they were younger, you know, Appreciate you, man. I don't appreciate you because nobody else might forgive you, but I'm just. I'm really doing this for myself.
Neon
Damn.
Charlamagne tha God
I'm not gonna be a hypocrite as well.
Just Hilarious
He's really been through.
Neon
Oh, so we're on the same. We're in the same boat, brother.
DJ Envy
He smelt jlo's chair.
Charlamagne tha God
Could you stop?
DJ Envy
I'm sorry.
Neon
Well, I smell Gorlock's chair. You guys know who that is? Who the.
Charlamagne tha God
Go.
Just Hilarious
Let me look that up.
Lauren LaRosa
It's got to be a guy.
Neon
Pull up the picture. Gorlock the Destroyer, is it?
Charlamagne tha God
Oh, his chest. You took my move. Well, you saw that.
Lauren LaRosa
Wait, hold up, hold up, hold up. What is happening?
Charlamagne tha God
You laughing at that woman with.
Neon
I don't know.
Lauren LaRosa
What is Gorlock like?
Charlamagne tha God
Who's you laughing at? That woman with down syndrome.
DJ Envy
How do you know that she has down syndrome?
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, Gorlock is the one.
Charlamagne tha God
No.
Neon
All right, so you can say that, but I'm getting said that.
Charlamagne tha God
No, she don't. Let me see.
Just Hilarious
What girl like is a woman?
Lauren LaRosa
I'm so confused.
Neon
Yeah, she's a beautiful woman.
DJ Envy
Come on.
Charlamagne tha God
She don't have. I'm being serious. She don't have down syndrome.
Neon
Nah.
Charlamagne tha God
Oh, you're wild.
Neon
What's the most situation you, huh?
Charlamagne tha God
She's just a big girl.
Neon
Yeah.
Charlamagne tha God
Okay, okay.
Neon
Plus size model.
Charlamagne tha God
You smell deceit?
Neon
Yeah.
Charlamagne tha God
Okay.
Neon
Shouts are honestly unscented.
Lauren LaRosa
How did you end up streaming with Kanye? How did that happen?
Neon
So Dave Blunt, he. He was in Kanye's ear telling him, like, yo, you gotta do a stream with this. With this kid. Whatever. Kanye tweeted me a Few times or Yay, Sorry, Yay. Tweeted me a few times and then it just never happened. Then sneako another streamer. He was going to Spain to do the stream and then they were like, oh, you can bring someone else, whatever. And then he hit me up and it just all aligned perfectly. I was there for like five days before I actually got the stream. So like it was like 8am Wake ups. He was like just talking on and on. He was just like, he's just a cool guy. Like, just like seeing the way he lives life. And that dude is so talented and so like he's the smartest guy I've ever been around. He's. His mind's always racing. He's always doing new shit, new projects.
Charlamagne tha God
Also. Now you just pissed off all the Jewish community.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh my God.
Neon
No, no, I love the. I love Jewish people.
Charlamagne tha God
You just came on here to just on everybody.
Neon
Nah, nah, nah.
Charlamagne tha God
I mean, wow.
Neon
I got so many Jewish friends. What? Oh my God. You're trying to get me caught up, brother.
Charlamagne tha God
Hey, brother.
DJ Envy
Why you put the A at the end?
Lauren LaRosa
Brother is hilarious.
Charlamagne tha God
That was crazy.
Just Hilarious
What's the crazy situation? I seen you in Harlem with Jim Jones. What's the craziest situation? Dubai. What was the crazy situation you've been in that you didn't think he was gonna make it out?
Neon
Besides Dubai, I've been in a lot of situations. There's a Nate Diaz thing, same thing, trolling. And I saw that he chased you. He chased me. And they were like really like his security guards fisted up, ready to fight. Like they're running at me full speed. These are 300 pound tanks running at me. And I ran onto ongoing traffic. Luckily I didn't get hit. Then it was a parking garage and there was two. There was upstairs and a downstairs. I ran upstairs and they thought I ran downstairs and the upstairs door was locked. So if they had ran upstairs, I would have been. I'm so weak. I probably would have died if they punched me hard. I'm not even kidding.
Charlamagne tha God
How did you say to Nate for them to.
Neon
I said some dumb shit. When you get knocked out, are you gonna retire? But then me and Nate got on the phone and cleared it fully.
DJ Envy
I bet that's a regular question, but.
Neon
It'S some troll shit. Like you can't just say that to a grown man from you.
DJ Envy
I feel like he probably took it. I think he probably took it like that.
Charlamagne tha God
He said what?
Just Hilarious
He said it before the fight.
Charlamagne tha God
That's still not a bad.
Neon
I swear to God, that's What happened? I swear to God. I swear to God, that's what happened.
DJ Envy
I know. I re. I got the article right here. I know.
Charlamagne tha God
What did he say exactly?
DJ Envy
He said that when. Dude, when you get. When you do get knocked out, are you going to retire? But it's giving. Oh, when you do get knocked out. So it's giving. Like playing with my ability. Like, you don't even think I'm gonna make it through this fight.
Just Hilarious
That's really that bad.
Charlamagne tha God
I still don't think that.
DJ Envy
I think it's just because you were.
Neon
Shame in the chat. What's good, brother?
Just Hilarious
And where's your security all the time? All these issues.
Neon
He's right there.
Just Hilarious
When the guy was just chasing.
Lauren LaRosa
He wasn't with him back then.
Charlamagne tha God
He wasn't back there.
Neon
No, he was. Yeah, I've been. Yeah, you know, I've been through. I've been through a lot of security guards, but Zoe's the best. Shout out to Zo. Okay?
Lauren LaRosa
Okay. And why have you been through so many Zo?
Charlamagne tha God
Why did you sign up for this, though?
DJ Envy
I've been looking at you the whole.
Neon
Time trying to figure that out. I'm a very harmless guy, man.
Lauren LaRosa
But look, why have you been through so many security guys? Like, what is the conversation?
Just Hilarious
Hey, what up, y'?
Charlamagne tha God
All?
Lauren LaRosa
It's DJ Envy.
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Neon
Panoramic moonroof, ambient lighting, Bose and massaging.
Lauren LaRosa
Leather appointed seats are optional features. This can't work for you no more. It's too much. I'm taking hits on the chin like, what is this?
Neon
Nah, no one's taking a hit for me.
Lauren LaRosa
So why do you quit? Why? You have been through so many.
Neon
Well, no one quits. No one's. No security guards ever quit on me, but.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, you fire them?
Neon
Yeah. She's like black and lazy.
Charlamagne tha God
Of course not.
Neon
Of course not. Okay, never mind.
Lauren LaRosa
See, brother?
Neon
Nah, they're not. They're not.
DJ Envy
You know, this is just hilarious.
Just Hilarious
Yeah, so now I want to get to, I want to. Now I want to know what got you in the streaming.
Charlamagne tha God
How did you. Hold on, though. Yeah, why you just gave up on the question?
Neon
I'm gonna be honest. If I was like you, we gotta run this back at 4pm, full energy. And I could just, you know, be very happy and energetic. I told, I've never done anything like, like, like productive at 9am so this is like, this is interesting to me.
DJ Envy
You said Aiden was in the chat. Aiden Ross, Yeah. Y' all had a little issue, then y' all got back. Cool.
Neon
Yeah, it's my brother.
Charlamagne tha God
What'd you say about Aiden?
DJ Envy
Yeah, what was the issue with you?
Neon
So, you know, there was this moment when I was, Everything hit me so quick. Like, everything hit me so quick in la, you know, two weeks before I was sitting in my, in my parents basement gaming every day like a loser. Two weeks later I'm in la, in the hills with a fucking Lambo and like rented cars, like crazy houses. And everything was just a flash. Like, I don't remember anything. I was blacked out. Like, I was genuinely blacked out.
Charlamagne tha God
That's what they say at a Diddy party. It happens a lot.
Neon
Oh, man. Have you ever been to a Diddy party?
Charlamagne tha God
No.
Just Hilarious
Have you?
Neon
Would you go? I'm only. Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Would you go though, if he got.
Neon
Out And I'm not a party guy. I'm not a party guy. I'm the type of guy to sit in the corner of a club and just bop my head. So I don't like, I don't like partying.
Just Hilarious
What happened with you and Donald Trump?
Charlamagne tha God
He was. Hold, let him finish. Damn, man.
Neon
Thank you, man.
Lauren LaRosa
We got to come at him fast. He asked questions so fast.
Neon
Speed.
DJ Envy
Yeah, but what you do to.
Charlamagne tha God
Hold on. You was in la, blacked out. Yeah, exactly.
Neon
Yeah. So me and him, like, you know, that was the guy that really put me on. You know, I, I, I, I really owe a lot to. What's funny, man?
Just Hilarious
He's laughing at you. Go ahead.
Neon
Okay. All right. But you know, that's the guy that really, that really put me on to help me because he saw like the vision of me and he knew, like, he told me, like, even off stream, like every day, like, bro, I'm gonna help you do this and do this and you're gonna do this. And it's exactly what happened. Like, he gave me the. The platform to be able to even shit be here today.
Charlamagne tha God
What do you see in you that you didn't see in yourself?
Neon
Yeah, I mean, I just have low confidence. Like even myself. Like, I just feel like a fucking like random. But he just saw the potential, I guess. Like entertainment value and like everything. Like, he's. He always knew I had it in me and I never did. And like, he literally. He booked my flight to Miami and forced me to leave my house and try doing like IRL content. Like, he literally. He got my info, my name and booked it and like forced me to come. I didn't want to go. I just wanted to stay at home.
Lauren LaRosa
So I just heard you say something about your confidence. What? What?
Neon
What?
Lauren LaRosa
Why are you not confident? What is.
Neon
I mean, I just feel like. I don't know. I feel like. I feel like. I mean, at the day. We're all normal people, we're all regular people. Like, nothing. We all die one day. Like, we're not different anyone else. But like, as a streamer, as a person, like, I don't feel like a top dog, you know, I don't feel like one of the biggest.
DJ Envy
Wait, let's get into the chat because Aiden Ross, there's a comment pinned in here. He just commented and said, neon, I promise you they trying to belittle you and disrespect you. You on all of them. They are weird as them talking about who us in here. The chat is live in the Breakfast Club.
Lauren LaRosa
He's shitting anyway, that's what ain't. This is not Aiden Ross's interview, so fuck him too.
Neon
But here we go. We're all friends, okay?
DJ Envy
You know the comment is pinned in the chat. I'm in the chat with the W.
Charlamagne tha God
You feel like we trying to belittle you, Neon?
Neon
I think you know, you know, we should all come together and I'll just.
DJ Envy
Spread out that Kumbaya.
Lauren LaRosa
Aiden, come on.
Neon
That's my guy.
Lauren LaRosa
I don't give a. Listen, Hurricane, my aunt. You think I give a. I don't give a.
Charlamagne tha God
But you're comparing.
Neon
You're comparing something now to them.
Charlamagne tha God
I'm not gonna lie. Your chat is wild racist though. Black monkey, watermelon emojis.
Neon
I'm literally looking and I don't see any of this what it says they.
Charlamagne tha God
Race baiting says the short haired monkey. They race baiting the Breakfast Club walk.
DJ Envy
Out Neon his phone, he can't see nothing. It's moving so fast.
Lauren LaRosa
And I guess any of your chat, any of the motherfuckers was here, they wouldn't say it at all. That's another thing about, you know, streaming and just being behind.
Neon
You also have to understand this isn't my, this is, this is the Internet. This is not just my chat, my community. Right. This is the Internet. The Internet, just like me back then, would say whatever they want.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Neon
So this isn't, this isn't like a representation of me obviously.
Charlamagne tha God
But it's funny though, because the reality is I know this is a bunch of kids in here who don't know no better, but if we were really asking, please, we wouldn't have had you up here. And, and as soon as I heard about the Carson, I think we'd have told you. Get the fuck on. I mean, you know, disrespecting somebody's mom and then saying that shit about Harry Harriet Tubman. If we were really being assholes and really trying to belittle you, you'd have told you.
Neon
I understand that, man. I just feel like at the end of the day you can't hold something against someone if they're changing and becoming a better person and understanding and how.
Lauren LaRosa
Do we know you're changing and how.
Neon
You know you don't really believe you when you build your whole I understand.
Lauren LaRosa
On being a liar, of course.
Neon
And no one has to believe me. At the end of the day, if you don't want to believe me, you don't have to believe me. But if you actually sit down and watch my streams and understand the growth, then you see, and if you don't, it's, I respect you. It's like at the end of the day, I don't. Like, I don't. I'm not here to prove anything to people. I can do the best I can. People could judge me. I don't care. I'm going to. And if no one wants.
Just Hilarious
21 is not who I am right now. And that's the same with you. I, I, I, I respect, I respect.
Charlamagne tha God
Girl, I already told you that.
Neon
There'S no reason, there's no reason for coming for someone for something that they apologize for five times. And it was not the person who I am now and it was years ago. So like just coming for the same thing just doesn't ask you about it.
Charlamagne tha God
No.
Neon
100 but like bring it. Like, bring it up like, six times. Like, come on.
Charlamagne tha God
That's why he cheated on his wife. Let's talk past. We've already talked about that. You've addressed. I'm glad Aiden brought that up, because what you're doing right now, Neon, is holding yourself accountable and not running from who you were. Of course, because who you were has gotten to you, to where you are now. So you are a testament to these young people who need to know, who need to learn early. What. What people like us learn late. So whatever.
Just Hilarious
Donald Trump.
Lauren LaRosa
Were you gonna.
Just Hilarious
They said you were gonna do something with Donald Trump at one of these UFC events.
Neon
Yeah, another situation. I was on stream at a gun range, and I was like, when I see Donald Trump, I'm gonna press him. What island? That was a crazy one. Yeah, dumb.
Charlamagne tha God
Somebody on here said he used to me. I used to Charlemagne. I'm like, what?
Just Hilarious
Wow.
Charlamagne tha God
It went too fast. Like, what the.
DJ Envy
Even faster.
Just Hilarious
That might be true.
DJ Envy
You can't see nothing with Donald Trump.
Just Hilarious
So what happened?
Charlamagne tha God
How can I leave him? I'm g. Say, who Me?
Just Hilarious
That's all you worried about. So when you did that, what happened? Did the Secret Service reach out to you? They don't play that usually.
Neon
No, they didn't. It was just like. I mean, it didn't go. It didn't go too deep. It was just a thing where like, obviously Dana White and them were. They were pissed. And then off stream, I. You know, I walked up to him like a man, and I was like, you know, same shit. Like, man to man, apology. Shouldn't have said that.
Just Hilarious
What do you say?
Neon
He said it takes a real man to come and do that. I really appreciate you and I accept your apology and everything's good now, so.
Lauren LaRosa
And LiAngelo Ball, he actually dropped tweaker on your stream?
Neon
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
And then y' all had, like, some issues.
Neon
No. No issues at all. It's the Clippers. You know, the Clippers make everything out of context. I actually talked to Jello, like, a week ago. You know, me and him have, you know. Very cool guy. It's just like he came on stream for like, 30 minutes the next time we met, and then everyone, you know, took it out of context as if it's like he's trying to, like, be. Have an ego or be weird or anything. But in reality, like, that's what the stream was supposed to be. It's supposed to be like a quick thing, quick reunion, and that's it. But, yeah, I fuck with Jello.
DJ Envy
Heavy talk about the Clippers. Because when you say the Clippers, you're not talking about the team. You talk about clip up content.
Neon
Yeah. So those are a lot of money there. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. So those are people that actually made the song what it is today. I paid out like just for that song itself. I paid out 100k just to make that song poppin. And it was like one of my biggest clippers, his name is King, He. He posted it and, and, and he made it go everywhere. And then that went from that to Jello performing at the. In the playoffs and all this stuff. So it wasn't me, it was them, it was the Clippers.
Lauren LaRosa
You know, there's. The Clippers work for you or.
Neon
Okay, they work for me. And it's, you know, they give me cool stories. So cool. Like, like clippers text me. They're like, oh, I'm the richest kid in my village in India. Or like, I just took my parents on vacation from the clipping money. So it's like, it's just jobs for people. Like, my highest clipper is making like 60, like 60k a month just from clip. Just from sitting in bed and clipping and posting shit.
Lauren LaRosa
Right.
Neon
So it's cool. It's definitely cool.
Charlamagne tha God
Talk to me about Kick, right? Like, Kik is a lot of home, is a home base for a lot of screamers, right? And screamers on that platform seem to be held to a certain standard. What do you, what do you think that standard is? And why do you think that the platform is so popular?
Neon
Well, I think, you know, because I.
Charlamagne tha God
Heard you say it was like the dark web of screaming one time.
Neon
Yeah, it is. There's a lot of, you know, it's, it's unmoderated and that's what people like, like on Kick especially. Kick does have a very toxic fan base, I will say that. But they are deep and like the fact that a platform can come out of nowhere and like at least somewhat compete with the other ones, it's pretty crazy. And how, how fast they did it. But, you know, I owe a lot to Kick because I went on there with nothing and they believed in me and they gave me everything I have today. And without them, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even be here. But they are really up, like, you know, big, big platform. They're growing. They obviously have stake and all this stuff too. So. Shout out to Kick now you have.
Just Hilarious
A huge announcement you said you're gonna make.
Charlamagne tha God
Right, hold on, we'll get to that in a second. But, but, but I I do want to. I want you to answer this question because I wanted to be on record. People are watching you evolve in real time. So what made you become more intentional about switching up your content?
Neon
I just think it was just, like, a realization that this is not what I want to do. And when I realized that it didn't like that, when the shock factor is gone, right, and people are watching to see what dumb shit you're doing next, when you stop doing that, they stop caring, right? So I went down for a little bit, and I knew I was gonna go down. I was like, that's not what I want to do, but I will go down, and, you know, in the longer term, it will work out. And then now I feel like I'm doing a lot better for myself, and I'm doing what I actually want to do, like, bringing athletes on stream that, like, I used to play with on the video game and doing stuff, going to different cities and places where I've never could have imagined me going, like, Zone 6 in Atlanta. Greatest people ever. Having a great experience with these people at a cookout doing all this stuff.
Charlamagne tha God
21, right?
Neon
20. Yeah, it was. It was a long stream. 21. There's baby drill lotto. Like, there's just so many people doing that stream. But, yeah, just, like, I'm, like, now able to not have to do all this stupid shit that I never like, that I don't want to do, and I'm able to, you know, do the streams that I love.
Just Hilarious
So what's your goal as a streamer? Because I see you just on a record deal, right?
Neon
Yeah, I don't have any goals. Like, I mean, obviously I want to be the biggest streamer in the world, but, like, I've never sat down and, like, I want to hit, like, this amount of followers, this amount of money, whatever. I'm just going day by day and just living life.
Charlamagne tha God
Life goals, though, like. Like writing down where you.
Neon
It's crazy. I don't have any really, like, 20. I don't have any goals. I'm still learning life.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Neon
So I'm still trying to figure out, like, my. Like, everything's just like, next day, next day. Like, just. I'm just focused on the now, which is, you know, maybe not good, but.
Charlamagne tha God
What's the record deal about?
Neon
No. Hell, no. You have artists, huh? No. So it's just like. It's like a. Like, I'm just gonna chat.
DJ Envy
Is it like a R Where you bring your music or promo?
Neon
Yeah, yeah, that type of thing.
Just Hilarious
More like promo. So they pay you to promote artists and things like that?
Neon
Well, we're working together, but yeah, it's gonna.
Lauren LaRosa
You did for the. The Tweaker song. Like, how many other artists would. Would thrive off that?
Neon
I mean, for sure, the Tweaker thing was very special because it was, it was, it was like just very organic and natural. Like, we didn't have that plan going in, so it's like we were just chilling. Like I was just trying to create conversation. I was like, you got any music? I didn't even know he had music. And he's like, I'm play some shit. And then it was just like that. But other than that, like, artists have come on and like, like they don't go as crazy as Tweaker, but they still do good. And like, you know, the streaming industry is just getting bigger and bigger by the second, so I think it's a good, A good crossover.
Charlamagne tha God
I saw you earlier this year say, I think you were talking to Complex. You said you still feel like you haven't made it. So what does making it look like? Like, if you don't have no goals or you don't know where you want to take this just because how do you ever know you made it?
Neon
I don't know. I don't know.
Charlamagne tha God
To pay your bills?
Neon
What?
Charlamagne tha God
Are you able to pay your bills?
Neon
Yeah.
Charlamagne tha God
Do you have a roof over you?
Neon
Yeah.
Charlamagne tha God
Do you eat every day?
Neon
Yeah.
Charlamagne tha God
You get some pussy from time to time?
Neon
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Charlamagne tha God
You've made it. You're doing all right. Subjective, bro.
Neon
I want to. I want to be the best at what I do and I haven't gotten there yet. I got to master the craft of streaming. I got to be the best at it and I got to do it big things and I still haven't done that yet.
Charlamagne tha God
But what makes you the best at it though? Like who's the. Who's the Mount Rushmore screamers? Like if you had to pick the.
Neon
Four, I'll say, I'll say the three. The three. The three people that innovated streaming and made streaming what it is today. Speed. Aiden Kai, for sure.
Lauren LaRosa
Hey, Speed.
Neon
Those. Those. Those three are the ones. Like, Speed's just a different level, high production. Crazy Aiden's the one that started the whole trend of bringing the people on stream and. Craziest run I've ever seen in my life.
Charlamagne tha God
So there's a fourth spot still open basically, is what you're saying.
Neon
Yeah. You coming for it? I hope so. I hope so.
DJ Envy
And that makes sense to where you are now. With like trying to figure out a way to rebrand so that you can do more and reach more people.
Neon
Yeah, for sure. And I, I just want to enjoy it at the end of the day. Like I have. I have so much fun streaming. Like right after this, I slept for two hours. I'm gonna go home, I'm gonna sleep for an hour and a half. Then I'm gonna go to the American Dream mall and do some and then keep streaming the rest of the day. Like, I'm really just like, this is what I enjoy doing. And if I, you know, they be. They'll be able to see if I didn't enjoy it, like, if I didn't like it, they wouldn't even be watching.
Charlamagne tha God
I think you've learned a valuable lesson that a lot of the other screamers haven't learned yet and that. That there is consequences to your actions and there's consequences to your. Your words. So when you out in the street, people gonna try you. Like you saw when. When AB got into it with. And well, that was Aiden Ross event, right? Yeah, yeah. Like those guys that jumped your manager, like, is real. So it's like these guys that be talking slick online, you know, people gonna, People gonna see.
Neon
Oh yeah, no, there's definitely consequences. And I've dealt. Yeah, I've dealt a lot. I've just been very lucky because like with the shit I've done in the past, like, I should be like. Like someone could have done something to me, like absolutely bad for sure. And I. And, and. And you know, thank God nothing happened, but it just like I'm blessed.
Lauren LaRosa
Is the manager okay?
Neon
Yeah, he's fine.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay. He's still your manager?
Neon
No.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay. I wouldn't be a manager.
Neon
It wasn't because. It wasn't because of that. But he's. Yeah, shout out to him.
Lauren LaRosa
I got you.
Charlamagne tha God
And that's one of the reasons I like the screaming world. Because, you know, when I look at Kai, when I look at Speed, like those guys are like the top guys and those guys are always positive. And so it makes everybody else want to be positive because they see them and they see that they've had a lot of success so they not on a lot of the fuck shit.
Just Hilarious
But trolling is a big way to go to. A lot of people follow these trolls.
Neon
I don't think trolling really works anymore.
Lauren LaRosa
It doesn't last long.
Neon
It doesn't last long.
DJ Envy
I think it's so regular now that it doesn't wow you. We don't think nothing's real anyway.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what I'm saying? And then you being so young, you know, a lot of people look up to you. You've been doing this for a long time. Like, all your, you know, your chat and shit, like, they. They look up to you. So you changing your image is the best thing to do. Because, like I just said, trolling don't last long. And it's a lot of kids, a lot of, like, little kids that are struggling with, like, fitting in and feeling like they haven't made it, you know? Cause they. They live on these platforms and they look at you and they're like, oh, he's young and he's rich, and he's doing this and doing that. You. So you. If you are more positive, that's how you keep them.
Neon
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what I'm saying?
Neon
And growing up with them, like, yeah, they're living their lives, too. And I just want to be a good example, because for a while I wasn't. But I feel like, you know, they could use me as an example. Like, I'm a normal kid, like, without streaming. Realistically, Like, I don't even know what I'll be doing right now. Like, I'm just like, the people watching. Like, we're no different.
Charlamagne tha God
Aiden said, it's so funny. As soon as I started talking, they chilled out on you. Keep going, Neon. You killing it. What is he even talking about?
Lauren LaRosa
This nigga is stupid as shit.
Neon
I'm telling you, he's white.
Charlamagne tha God
Somebody said the Monkey Club.
Lauren LaRosa
Crack a dumbest. I'm telling you, the watermelon emoji. Don't know what.
Neon
How the. Look, he didn't use a word like that. The C word's kind of crazy.
Charlamagne tha God
Monkey. He didn't bring with the monkey.
Lauren LaRosa
Me a monkey?
Neon
No, he didn't call you that.
Just Hilarious
Yes, he did.
Neon
No, no, no. That was. No, no, no. That was something to the chat. He's.
Lauren LaRosa
No, he's reading with.
Neon
There's no reason to call.
Charlamagne tha God
Reparations.
Just Hilarious
Listening right now. How long did it take you to get popping? How long were you streaming before it worked? Because everybody thinks things happen overnight. How long did it take until you got your first real check?
Neon
Well, I didn't see. I didn't see any growth for years. Like, I was. It's crazy because, you know, I don't really talk about this much, but I was, like, trying to just. I was so, like, I was so invested into becoming the biggest and becoming, like, a streamer and doing something for myself to where, like, I was even learning how to make thumbnails like, so y' all know Duke Dennis, obviously, right? So I made like. I've made like two.
Charlamagne tha God
He's from South Carolina. I don't know him personally, but he's from South Carolina.
Neon
I've made two of his thumbnails before. So, like back then. Back then, like, I was doing like learning Photoshop, trying to build up my connects, like, whatever it took. But this was years and years and years of no growth. Like a hundred views of video on playing NBA 2K until like I even saw anything.
DJ Envy
How do you feel like this interview went for you today? Aiden's upset, but how do you feel?
Neon
No, he's not obsessed. It's my boy. So he's like, you know, he's running for his guy.
Lauren LaRosa
How do you keep caring about what.
DJ Envy
You say, not caring about him? I just wonder, do you feel like. Because I think in coming here, right, I know you have the announcement. You wanted to have a conversation with obviously black people. We're here. How did you feel like the conversation went?
Neon
You know, I think I got came for a little bit, but, you know, it's.
DJ Envy
You expected that though, right?
Neon
At the end of the. Honestly, I've. You know, when I've done stuff like this, it's usually been like a one on one. It's a lot of people, rapid fire. But yeah. Yeah, it's rapid fire. It's all right, though. Thank you guys for having me.
Lauren LaRosa
I think you handled it well.
Charlamagne tha God
This chat is funny because it's the same old shit they say online about everything.
DJ Envy
Think.
Just Hilarious
You handle should affect anything. So you said you got a major announcement that you got to make, right? You want to make that announcement now?
Lauren LaRosa
You probably don't. I'm probably go somewhere else.
Charlamagne tha God
Somebody said. They just said trolling doesn't work. Not a press. They just. Trolling doesn't work. Not a press. What that mean?
Neon
Use. Use a shotgun. Sorry, what you said.
DJ Envy
What's Use the shotgun. What that mean?
Neon
Oh, no, no, not like a shotgun.
DJ Envy
Mic friendly.
Just Hilarious
You about to make this announcement. What's your announcement?
Neon
What did you do? Hold on.
DJ Envy
Shotgun is just a different angle on the camera.
Neon
Oh, no, you're just. So you can keep it.
DJ Envy
Oh, okay.
Neon
No. Or wait, what?
Just Hilarious
Oh, shotgun mic, man.
DJ Envy
Oh, okay.
Neon
Yeah. Chat. Everyone chill out. All right, all right. Everyone chill out. I just, you know, so they defend me a lot because, you know, there's a lot of. There's a lot of things being said. So that's why that's. But they. But there's no reason to say stuff like that chat.
Lauren LaRosa
I totally understand.
Charlamagne tha God
Right? Chat be the chat. But no, but by the way, the. The one thing that's so funny though. I guess they're not really listening. I told you. What did I tell you?
Neon
You couldn't meet it.
Charlamagne tha God
Jcv, I'm glad you learned early what so many of us, like myself, learned late.
Neon
Yeah. How long do you think it took you to realize stuff like that, child?
Charlamagne tha God
Listen, I was wilding well into my 20s.
DJ Envy
He just told me that my hair, probably early 30s.
Lauren LaRosa
Listen, this was crazy, right? I'm glad that you're telling your chat to chill. I don't give a fuck about what they're saying about me. You have two black people working for you. Two employees, and they are spewing the monkey, the this, the that, that, all the racist comments. You got two like, you got a black man protecting YOLO ass. You know what I'm saying?
Neon
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Your cameraman black. You found me. They ain't got to know me. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, but these people are obviously close to you. You gotta love them because you wouldn't. You know what I'm saying? You can't do this shit by yourself. You have to have a team. Team is black. A lot of them, obviously.
Neon
Actually, I think my entire team is black.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what I mean?
Neon
Publicist.
Lauren LaRosa
So it's like shout out to Brandi.
DJ Envy
That's my sister.
Lauren LaRosa
Right. So, you know, you might want to.
Charlamagne tha God
Yeah, you got to tell them.
Neon
But I mean, you can't control. I mean, I told him to chill.
Lauren LaRosa
That I can't, but if they love him and they're following him and it's like, he got to still be the representation.
Neon
Well, of course you can tell him to chill. But at the end of the day, it's the Internet. Like, the Internet could say, like, just like when I was at home, I could say whatever I want. Like, there's no, like, stopping what. What a live chat says. Like, if this was stream.
Charlamagne tha God
I agree.
Neon
Like, there's. There's literally not. There's nothing.
Charlamagne tha God
But that's why when you catch one.
Lauren LaRosa
Of them, stop them just addiction, who you are. I know you can't control other people.
Charlamagne tha God
That's why when you catch one of them little shit talking, you gotta make an example. I will say this, period.
Just Hilarious
I. I do. If you really evolve and you really change it, I respect it.
Neon
Thank you.
Just Hilarious
Like what Charlamagne said.
Charlamagne tha God
I agree.
Just Hilarious
Sometimes we get crucified for things we did when we was younger and stupid and we need to change. I know. I Myself did. I know.
Charlamagne tha God
Same, same.
Just Hilarious
You're living your life, and it ain't a problem as long as you're really apologetic and. And change behavior shows everything. Everything else.
Charlamagne tha God
And there's nothing you gonna hear. There should be nothing people hear about you on the Internet that they haven't heard from you. Correct. That's my motto. Live your truth so nobody can use your truth against you. Whatever they saying about me in that chat, I wrote about it in my book. I've talked about it on the radio, talked about it in podcast. Do your thing.
Just Hilarious
Yep.
DJ Envy
You know, you might need a mentor. Him, Charlemagne. Because I'm just thinking about how I'm.
Charlamagne tha God
Part of the mafia.
Lauren LaRosa
Are you making. Are you making your announcement here?
Charlamagne tha God
What's the announcement? He's thinking about it now.
DJ Envy
Why are you taking it back? Because we asked you the hard questions.
Neon
I just know everyone's gonna be. Everyone's on my ass for this already. Like, they're. They're violating.
Charlamagne tha God
Once you ask the question, why are you being violated?
Neon
Because they're telling me to. Like. Like, because I. I've been getting. I've been getting bitched pretty much. But why? No, that's what they're saying. Don't listen to people.
Charlamagne tha God
Don't. Did you feel like you were getting bitched before they started telling you that?
Neon
I feel like I was getting ganged up on. I will say that. Well, yeah, but just, you know, like, certain things, like, you know, you guys. You guys bring it up, and I, like, explain it, and then it keeps getting brought up like. Like multiple times, even after, like. And this isn't like, you know, I've talked about, like, these things, like, hundreds of times, but not here.
Charlamagne tha God
This is a lot of people's first interview.
Neon
Yeah, but, like, I already talked about it once. But then it's, like, just keeps, like. Like, it's just, like, trying to, like, go deep in.
DJ Envy
That's the issue with the Internet, too, is because once it's out there, it's out. Cause that clip that I played for you, that clip was just reposted, I think, about a week ago.
Charlamagne tha God
And if we didn't. If we didn't ask you, our audience would be saying, well, you didn't ask him about this, and you didn't ask.
Lauren LaRosa
Him about that because our audience don't know you. You feel me? So you're obviously coming here to. And you probably gained some fans from this.
Neon
Thank you.
Lauren LaRosa
And gain a lot of haters from this as well, because it's hate everywhere. Just, like, you can't Control them hating on you in there. You can't control the love and none of that.
Neon
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
So I do understand how you felt about it. I think you still handled it very well.
Neon
Thank you so much.
Lauren LaRosa
For you to be so young.
Neon
I would love to come back in a year and you guys see all the growth and see where I'm at. And then y' all will be. And then. And then y' all will be like, damn, he wasn't just. I think you should.
DJ Envy
I think you should.
Charlamagne tha God
And listen to the experts. I've seen a lot of people come up here and fold under question and crumble. You didn't do that.
Just Hilarious
No, you didn't fold.
Charlamagne tha God
You handed yourself very well. Okay.
Neon
I appreciate that.
Just Hilarious
You did.
Neon
Thank you guys for having me wrong.
Charlamagne tha God
Now, what's the announcement? I already know what he don't want to do.
DJ Envy
Give it to us. He don't want to do it.
Lauren LaRosa
He like, I'm not breaking my shit.
DJ Envy
To the black family reunion. He go home now.
Neon
I'd love to come to reunion. I'd love to come. I'd love to come. I'd love to come. Let me know. We should. You know, we should all hang out off stream.
Charlamagne tha God
Let me ask you, Are you getting paid to do what it is you're.
Lauren LaRosa
Doing to get big announcement?
Charlamagne tha God
Yeah. Are you getting paid to do it?
Lauren LaRosa
Are you getting paid?
Neon
No. Oh, okay.
Charlamagne tha God
Oh, you're just doing it because you want to do it.
DJ Envy
Yeah, I heard that. Well, I can't even ask you until you say it, but okay.
Lauren LaRosa
No, no, no.
Charlamagne tha God
What's better? What's better? What's better?
Neon
What?
Charlamagne tha God
The move you're making, where you came.
Lauren LaRosa
From or where you going.
Just Hilarious
Yeah, I was like, I ain't even say nothing yet.
Lauren LaRosa
I mean, we know it. We just want him to.
Neon
Oh, my God.
DJ Envy
Don't let them do nothing.
Charlamagne tha God
Don't listen to the chat, man.
Neon
They don't want you to crash out.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm telling you, some streamers that wouldn't last five minutes in this. You did great. You did great. They are coming in full. They can say whatever they want behind the screen, but they wouldn't last five minutes.
Charlamagne tha God
You're gonna be thinking about this all day. Damn. Did I go into breast club and get. Because you. Because the chat told you that's because.
Lauren LaRosa
You say a bunch of people telling you got. No, no, no. You still got your pride. You still good. You. You changing. I mean. Yeah, but this ain't the last time that this is gonna happen if you continue to do press, because this is real Press that on the Internet. I'm not saying the funds that you make from it ain't real. The attention that you're getting from it is not real. But, like, when you talk to real people in person, that is, with that, you know, I'm saying that connection, that being that, that person, that in person shit, yeah, that's real.
Charlamagne tha God
And that. That right there is not helping you. It's not. They're not helping you with what it is you're doing. You evolve faster than they have. Yeah, you've evolved, but the chat has.
Neon
I'm not. I'm not talking about the people that are saying the crazy shit, but the core people, without them, I'm nothing. And without them watching me, I owe these motherfuckers, you know, my life like I own the world. I'm not talking about the people that are saying crazy shit. I'm talking about the people that watch me every day and support me. Your audience, and I love them. Well, I hope.
Charlamagne tha God
I hope they're influenced by your growth and they grow to.
Lauren LaRosa
Absolutely.
Neon
For sure. They definitely see it. And every day they, you know, they. They see it and they sit and actually watch my streams and see the type of person I am. Like, you know, clips are another thing where you could just see the clips and everything is clipped out of context. But when you actually sit down and watch a stream and, you know, it's crazy because I do these streams and, like, these communities, they hate. Like, I did a stream with Yasmine with sketches, sketch, okay? Streamer his community when he announced the stream. All else, like, fuck him, whatever. And then the stream after the stream, like, w. Wow, this guy's actually, you know, you gotta really sit down and watch the stream and. Yeah, I feel like these people are growing with me and developing with me, and I love them. I love them. I wouldn't trade this. This for anything. I love you, chat. I love you guys so much.
Charlamagne tha God
People watching you right now. Is that a good number?
Neon
Yeah. I mean, it's very early.
Lauren LaRosa
It's like. It's 10am that's good.
Neon
It's very early.
Just Hilarious
You gonna do it now? No. You gonna hold it off?
Neon
I'm holding.
Just Hilarious
Ladies and gentlemen, Neon. We appreciate you.
Neon
Thank you guys so much. I just want to say see you next year. Thank you for giving the platform to Talk. And thank you for sharing your platform, too. No, of course, of course. I think, you know, at the end of the day, like I said, come back in a year. You guys will see where I'm at. And we'll all, you know, laugh about this.
Lauren LaRosa
Don't forget because then the year I'm with it.
Neon
No, for sure I'm gonna be here. Thank you guys so much. And y' all are gonna. I don't even know. I'm so tired. I love you guys.
Just Hilarious
God bless Neon. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne tha God
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
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Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: N3on Talks Kai Cenat, Internet Beef; DDG's Brother DuB, Streaming Career, Adin Ross, Personal Growth
Release Date: July 15, 2025
Host: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guest: Neon (Content Creator & Streamer)
The episode begins with the hosts greeting listeners and introducing Neon, a prominent content creator and streamer known for his dynamic online presence. Neon joins DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious, and Lauren LaRosa to discuss his tumultuous journey in the streaming world, past conflicts, personal growth, and future aspirations.
[00:41] Jess Hilarious welcomes Neon to "The Breakfast Club," setting the stage for an in-depth discussion.
[01:20] Charlamagne Tha God:
"What's the beef with you and my guy Kaiser?"
Neon acknowledges his past conflicts with Kai Cenat, emphasizing that both parties were initially on the same side.
[01:25] Neon:
"A few years ago, me and Kai had a little back and forth... It was just me being immature and trolling."
Neon reflects on his earlier days of seclusion and rampant trolling, which led to misunderstandings and public disputes with Kai Cenat.
[02:58] Charlamagne presses Neon for specifics about his altercation with Kai, leading Neon to reluctantly admit:
[03:02] Neon:
"I said something messed up about Kai's mom and Harriet Tubman. It was immature and thoughtless."
Neon admits to using offensive language, including targeting Kai Cenat's mother and misusing Harriet Tubman's name as a slur. He acknowledges the inappropriateness of his actions and expresses sincere regret.
[05:27] Charlamagne asks if Neon has publicly apologized, to which Neon responds affirmatively:
[05:31] Neon:
"I've apologized multiple times privately and publicly... but I should apologize to Harriet Tubman's family too."
Neon emphasizes his commitment to making amends, though he admits he hasn't reached out to Harriet Tubman's family.
Neon delves into his streaming career, highlighting both successes and challenges.
[04:39] Neon recounts his stint in Dubai, where he was arrested for streaming in a restricted area. He describes the incident:
[04:54] Neon:
"I was streaming in Dubai without proper permission. Ended up getting arrested for 2.5 days."
This experience served as a wake-up call for Neon, illustrating the real-world consequences of his online behavior.
[14:02] Just Hilarious:
"Has anyone ever put hands on you?"
Neon shares another harrowing experience where his live chat led to an attempted assault on his manager, underscoring the dangers of online feuds spilling into reality.
A significant portion of the discussion centers on Neon's transformation from a controversial streamer to a more responsible and positive content creator.
[07:05] Neon explains his realization of the need to change:
[07:05] Neon:
"I realized trolling wasn't the path I wanted to continue on. Streaming should be about building something positive."
He discusses his pivot towards more meaningful content, including collaborating with athletes and exploring diverse streaming topics.
[35:22] Charlamagne:
"What made you become more intentional about switching up your content?"
[35:22] Neon:
"I didn't want the shock factor to define me. I wanted to focus on what I truly enjoy and contribute positively."
Neon addresses the persistent negativity from his online community and chat, acknowledging the difficulty of handling hate while striving for personal growth.
[29:07] Lauren LaRosa:
"I'm telling you, some streamers wouldn't last five minutes in this environment, but you handled it well."
Neon emphasizes the importance of differentiating between toxic comments and genuine supporters, striving to cultivate a positive community despite the challenges.
[45:31] Charlamagne:
"When you catch one of those little shit talkers, you gotta make an example."
Neon agrees, highlighting his efforts to moderate his chat and set a better example for his audience.
The conversation shifts towards Neon's aspirations and reflections on his journey.
[36:16] Charlamagne:
"What's the record deal about?"
Neon reveals his involvement in promoting music through his streams, collaborating with artists, and investing in creative projects.
[38:12] Neon:
"I want to master the craft of streaming and do big things, but I'm taking it day by day."
He expresses a desire to become the best streamer he can be, focusing on authentic growth rather than predefined goals.
As the interview wraps up, the hosts commend Neon for his honesty and resilience in overcoming past mistakes.
[47:59] Lauren LaRosa:
"You handled it very well for such a young individual."
[48:08] Charlamagne:
"You learned a valuable lesson that a lot of other screamers haven't learned yet."
Neon reiterates his commitment to positivity and his appreciation for his genuine supporters.
[50:20] Charlamagne:
"You are a testament to these young people who need to know what we learn late."
The episode concludes with heartfelt thanks and encouragement for Neon's continued growth and positive influence.
Charlamagne Tha God [01:20]: "What's the beef with you and my guy Kaiser?"
Neon [03:02]: "I said something messed up about Kai's mom and Harriet Tubman. It was immature and thoughtless."
Neon [07:05]: "I realized trolling wasn't the path I wanted to continue on. Streaming should be about building something positive."
Charlamagne Tha God [35:22]: "What made you become more intentional about switching up your content?"
Neon [35:22]: "I didn't want the shock factor to define me. I wanted to focus on what I truly enjoy and contribute positively."
Charlamagne Tha God [38:12]: "But what makes you the best at it though? Like who's the Mount Rushmore screamers?"
Neon [38:19]: "If you are more positive, that's how you keep them. Growing up with them, they could use me as an example."
Charlamagne Tha God [50:23]: "You are a testament to these young people who need to know what we learn late."
Accountability: Neon openly discusses his past mistakes and the importance of taking responsibility for his actions.
Personal Growth: Transitioning from trolling to positive content has been pivotal in Neon's streaming career.
Community Influence: Recognizing the impact he has on his young audience, Neon strives to set a positive example.
Overcoming Challenges: Despite facing legal issues and online hate, Neon remains committed to personal and professional growth.
Future Aspirations: Focused on mastering streaming and collaborating on creative projects, Neon aims to build a meaningful presence in the industry.
Neon's candid conversation on "The Breakfast Club" provides listeners with an insightful look into the complexities of online fame, the repercussions of negative behavior, and the transformative power of personal growth. His journey underscores the significance of evolving beyond past mistakes to foster a more positive and influential online presence.