INTERVIEW: Na'im Lynn Puts A Button On The Kevin Hart Roast Conversation

Summary

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The Breakfast Club – INTERVIEW: Na'im Lynn Puts A Button On The Kevin Hart Roast Conversation

Podcast: The Breakfast Club – The Black Effect Podcast Network/iHeartPodcasts
Air Date: June 1, 2026

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Overview

In this in-depth episode, comedians Naim Lynn sits down with the Breakfast Club hosts – DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, and Lauren LaRose – to unpack the now-notorious Kevin Hart Netflix roast and its aftermath. They tackle the praise and backlash, dissect the role of Black comedians in Hollywood, and engage honestly about the disappointment, camaraderie, and controversy swirling around the event, with Naim injecting personal reflections on comedy, authenticity, and ambition.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Naim Lynn on Preparing for the Roast

• Preparation & Boundaries:

  • Naim documented joke-testing on Instagram. He confirmed no jokes were cut for being “too far,” only for time ([03:16]).

    “Nah, nah. Everything I did was pretty much like what you saw. I had to take out a couple things because of time, but it was nothing that was too far. I wasn't gonna throw my man under the bus like that.” – Naim ([03:16])

• Longtime Relationship with Kevin Hart:

  • Naim addresses the recurring narrative that he’s been overlooked for acting opportunities by Kevin, expressing gratitude instead of resentment.

    “I just focus on what he has done for me instead of what he hasn’t. …You got to get it yourself, too.” – Naim ([03:37])

2. The Dynamics of Kevin Hart's Crew

• “Yes Men” and Reality Checkers:
  • Charlamagne observes Naim is a grounding force in their crew—not a yes man ([04:03]).

    “You always were 100% honest about everything.” – Charlamagne
    “There are some yes men, but I'm definitely not one of them.” – Naim

3. Backlash Over the Roast: What Went Wrong

• The Tony Hinchcliffe Joke:

  • Focus on the tasteless George Floyd joke, with consensus it was “corny” and offensive ([05:13], [07:18]).

    “More than being offensive, it was just corny.” – Naim
    “That’s not racist humor. That is trying to make a joke of somebody’s violent, tragic death at the hands of the police.” – Charlamagne ([08:00])

  • Responsibility: Many believe Kevin Hart faced unfair heat for another comic's words.

    “Kevin is getting more negative energy than the person that said it.” – Naim ([08:00])

  • Inside info: Rumors swirl a Black writer was involved with Tony Hinchcliffe's set ([10:08]).

• Public Outrage, Apology Demands, and Double Standards:

  • Discussing why some expect Kevin to apologize for others, and how this differs from his own past controversies.

    “He’s tired of being bullied into these apologies.” – Naim ([08:35])

4. Shining Moments: Cheryl Underwood & Career Impacts

• Cheryl Underwood’s Triumph:

  • Noted as the night’s big winner—handling racist jokes and getting three standing ovations ([06:17]).

    “She came in and handled that for everybody.” – Naim ([06:17])

  • Cheryl received a special thanks to her performance.

    “She now walks away with a special.” – Naim ([06:17])

• Naim’s Own Set & New Opportunities:

  • Despite solid buzz, Naim says other headlines muted his own “moment.”

    “There was so much other stuff going on that took away from that moment for me.” – Naim ([11:31])

  • The roast improved ticket sales for his live shows ([11:31]).

5. Comedy as Commentary & Limits of the Craft

• Chappelle Joke Context:

  • Naim explains his joke about Dave Chappelle marrying a Filipino “lady boy” was meant as playful homage, not disrespect ([13:21]–[14:15]).

    “If you gonna come for somebody, come for the king. But I'm a fan. It was really no disrespect.” – Naim ([13:43])

• Writing and Edits:

  • Material had to be pre-approved (5-min no-laugh, expandable to 7–8min with laughs); producers, not Kevin, vetted the sets ([15:08]).

• Comedy’s Social Role:

  • Do fans expect comics to be journalists, therapists, or activists?

    “They want Kev to be Dick Gregory...but he's not that.” – Naim ([19:10])

  • On being Black vs. being a comedian:

    “For me, being Black. Being a comedian is just what I do.” – Naim ([20:30])

6. Inside the Roast Writers Room

• Lack of Black Writers:

  • Naim describes the writers’ room as overwhelmingly white and somewhat clueless about Kevin Hart ([43:09]), revealing a behind-the-scenes gap in representation.

• Who Used Writers & Who Didn’t:

  • Naim and Big Jay wrote their own sets, while others like Teyana Taylor reportedly struggled ([44:00]).

7. Career Reflections and Comedy Philosophy

• Finding His Own Lane:

  • Naim wants more solo recognition—acting work and theater tours—but not Kevin Hart–level mega-celebrity ([12:26]).
  • Emphasizes the importance of writing (“Your pen is your gift” – advice from Snoop Dogg, [40:20]).

• Small Clubs vs. Big Tours:

  • Still enjoys performing in clubs, sees it as vital to honing the craft ([41:13]).

• Respect from Peers:

  • Values being “a comedian’s comedian,” admired by others in the industry ([52:21]).

8. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “A roast is a roast, you know, people are going to say some off color things. … But everybody's overshadowing the good stuff about the roast because of the couple of negative things that were said.” – Naim ([04:46])

• On adapting to success:

  “I've learned what it takes to be a celebrity. … Being a celebrity is extremely difficult. It takes a lot to get to where he [Kevin Hart] is, and I just appreciate the journey of it all.” – Naim ([34:29])

• On Chappelle:

  “He doesn't have any TV shows; everything he does is just stand up. He's a free black man, and he can get on stage and say whatever he wants to say. And people hold on to every word.” – Naim ([16:12])

• On the ideal legacy:

  “I always wanted to be a comedian’s comedian. … In 15 years from now, I want people to be like, ‘Yo, he holds his own. He did it.’” – Naim ([52:21])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro / Naim on the Hart Roast & Joke Prep: [02:44–04:46]
• On Kevin Hart, “Yes Men,” & Crew Dynamics: [04:03–04:46]
• Roast Controversies (Tony Hinchcliffe, George Floyd joke): [05:15–10:12]
• Cheryl Underwood’s Standout Moment: [06:17–07:18]
• Public Backlash & What Kevin Owes: [08:08–09:53]
• Writer’s Room, Race, and Representation: [42:17–44:00]
• Naim’s Philosophy on Comedy, Fame, and Personal Goals: [12:26–13:14], [34:29–41:13]
• On Chappelle, Comedy Greats, and Craft: [15:47–17:49]
• Gretchen Whitmer & the “Shark Week” Bit: [33:01–34:12]
• On Comedy and Blackness, Ethical Boundaries: [20:25–23:18]
• On Peer Respect and Legacy: [52:12–53:32]

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Tone & Closing Thoughts

The conversation is candid, humorous, and, at times, reflective, maintaining a comic’s frankness while delving into serious issues around race, fame, cancel culture, and community. Naim Lynn speaks with humility about his position alongside Kevin Hart, opting for gratitude, self-determination, and authenticity. The hosts push for accountability and insight but keep things light and relatable, peppering the discussion with inside jokes and laughter.

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For listeners:
This episode offers not just a peek behind the curtain of the Kevin Hart roast, but also a broader meditation on the pressures, pitfalls, and occasional payoffs of being Black and funny in America’s comedy spotlight. It highlights why context, respect, and solidarity matter as much on stage as off.

Transcript

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed.

[DJ Envy]

Comedian Naim Lynn. Welcome, brother.

[Naim Lynn]

What's good? What up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One thing that's constant conversation is the roast to Kevin Hart. And the thing that people talk about, other than the bs, is how great Naim Lynn did.

[Naim Lynn]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Now you did your thing. And the one thing I love is if you follow him on Instagram, you kind of led up to what you were doing, like documenting. You trying jokes out, seeing what worked. Seeing what didn't work.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

But my question to you was, were there a couple things that you said, nah, I'm not gonna do. This is too far. Or was there a too far when you came to writing jokes, going at Kev.

[Naim Lynn]

Nah, nah. Everything I did was pretty much like what you saw. I had to take out a couple things because of time, but it was nothing. That was too far. Yeah. I wasn't gonna throw my man under the bus like that.

[DJ Envy]

Do you really feel like, you know Kev, 25 years, and he could have put you in a bunch of movies that come from your heart? It was just like, I felt that a little bit, like, yeah, you know that man a long time. I ain't really sitting there. Ain't been known in the movies.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's been the narrative for a while. People like to talk about that. You let, you know, you let the chit chat get in your head and all that, but I'm in that space now of gratitude. I just focus on what he has done for me instead of what he hasn't. You know what I mean? Like, people get to decide what they want to do. And the fact that I've been working with him for all these years, and, I mean, he put me in the roast. It's a lot of good stuff, man. You know, you got to get it yourself, too. So it is what it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I always felt like you were the person that kept everything, I guess, grounded in reality. In that crew, though.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I always took from it. Not saying. Not saying he had. He got yes men around him, because he don't. But you always were 100% honest about everything.

[Naim Lynn]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah. You know, I mean, I think most of the guys are. If you ever listen to our radio show, straight from the heart. We all. We all get on each other. There are some yes men, but I'm definitely. I'm definitely not one of them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Naim Lynn]

I'm not one of them. And not necessarily into like the immediate crew, but, you know, when you at that level, you're gonna have those people that say, everything you do is. I tell them like, yo, that was some bull.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are some of the biggest misconceptions that came from the roast, you think?

[Naim Lynn]

Man, I feel like people just. A roast is a roast, you know, people are going to say some off color things. And I just feel like anybody that says something that you don't agree with, they should receive that energy alone. It shouldn't go to anyone else. You know, everybody's overshadowing the good stuff about the roast because of the couple of negative things that were said. Like, Cheryl Underwood destroyed that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely. He's got a special out of it.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, yeah. And. And that's Kev's doing. You know, like, people keep talking about the Tony Hinchcliffe thing. I feel like this in the moment, I wasn't even really. He was going so fast. I didn't really, like, listen to him like that. But the joke, he said it was corny. That more than any. More than it being offensive, it just was corny. It was a corny ass joke. If anybody has negativity, it should go towards him. But Cheryl Underwood came on and packed all of them up. Yeah. So anything that we were feeling in the moment was like, oh, it may be like, oh, that was kind of disrespectful, but it was rude. She came in and handled that for everybody. So by the end of the night, I don't think anybody was even thinking about that. You know, I know I wasn't. I was. When I was sitting there, I was like, damn. I was thinking about the standing note that I didn't get because this was supposed to be a moment. You know, everybody talk about how Nikki Glazer did the Tom Brady roast and her career took off from that. So everybody's looking for this moment. I know I was, and I had a good set, but I was like, dang, nobody stand up for me at this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, it might be that for Cheryl.

[Naim Lynn]

Cheryl had the moment, but Cheryl's already established. Cheryl's already been on a daytime talk show. She's been a comedian for 40 years. She's already been doing her thing. So. But it was a refresher for her for sure. You know, she came up there, she got three standing O's. All of that racial stuff, she handled that in Five minutes. And then people are attacking Kev for not standing up for black people, I guess, in that moment. But he did something for Cheryl. So we need to put more energy on that, on this black woman that was being attacked more than anybody on that stage. She now walks away with a special. And then she did a. Her little victory tour the week after, and she did these interviews and she's like, you know, it's a roast. She wasn't offended by most of the things. She's like, it's a roast. It's no hose barred. You say what you want, but everybody wanted Kev to come on here and. And condemn that joke. And should he had it? I mean, I guess he did in a way, but I guess it was the tone and everything. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was tasteless.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, he. He did say it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He would never make a joke like that.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, yeah, he did say it was tasteless. It was tasteless and it was corny.

[DJ Envy]

You just said it was corny. I was gonna say you said it was corny. You know, you don't ever really hear comedians say other comedians jokes is corny or whack. But during this case, not too much. Usually comedians, right, ride with each other. They whatever. But during this case, I've seen a lot of comedians say, nah, it was trash. It was whack. He was racist. He was this, that, and the other.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, I love racial humor, but this gotta be funny. And if it's not funny, then, you know, you just saying some just to say it and he has to receive all that. I feel like Kevin is getting more negative energy than the person that said it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And also, that's not racist humor. That is trying to make a joke of somebody's violent, tragic death at the hands of the police. Right.

[Lauren LaRose]

Because I saw a Spink post yesterday that, like, there were other jokes said about, like, his mom, Kevin Hart's mom and dad. But we supposed to be upset about the joke about George Floyd because he was killed by a white cop. Like, do you understand the frustration that people have with Kevin?

[Naim Lynn]

I understand the frustration of the joke. The moment it wasn't funny with him. I know people. He didn't say anything until he came on here. That was the first interview he did.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yeah.

[Naim Lynn]

And people wanted him to just simply come on and condemn the joke and say, I don't support that. But he had other things to say about it that didn't seem like maybe it came off like he didn't care as much. I don't know. But you Gotta understand that this is a guy that's been bullied over and over again. You know, they took away the Oscars from him years ago, then he had to go on an apology tour. So you got a guy that's just really frustrated. And, you know, when you've been bullied into these apologies and you can't. You feel like you can't do anything right, then sometimes you just, like, that's the type of energy you have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But people will bring that up too, though. They'll be like, oh, so you can apologize to the lgbtq.

[Naim Lynn]

He didn't want to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He didn't want to, but he did, so. But you can't do that for the family of George Floyd and black people.

[Naim Lynn]

But what's the apology?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And also, I will say, I think the difference is he actually made the jokes with the LGBTQ community. He didn't say this.

[Naim Lynn]

Right? He didn't say. And he was also there to support when George Floyd was murdered. He was there. So what is he apologizing for? He's apologizing for what somebody else said. You know, I don't really understand that. I think we can all agree that it was a tasteless joke. It wasn't funny. And, you know, people say, well, why did he have Tony Hinchliff on the show?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, that's a valid question.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, but nobody knew he was gonna say that. You know, he's good at roasting. He's done roast in the past, and people have enjoyed it. Crazy thing is, he has a black writer, and I think the black writer wrote that joke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

Tony Hinchcliffe.

[Naim Lynn]

Yes. That's wild.

[Lauren LaRose]

Who is the black writer?

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, I think he's. He's one of Tony's writers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You never put name on the stand.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, it is, because some of the

[Lauren LaRose]

writers were coming out talking about what did and what didn't make it. I don't know why we didn't hear from this black writer. Like, you know what I mean?

[Naim Lynn]

Well, I don't know. I don't know if he wrote that joke. Okay. I heard that he possibly did, but I know that he writes for Tony. He was part of that writing team.

[DJ Envy]

Gotcha.

[Naim Lynn]

But he's a controversial comic. You know, that's, like, kind of what he does. So I think if when it comes to Tony Hinchcliffe, let's say he is racist. Right. This energy is giving him what he wants. The fact that we still talking about him three weeks later is just helping him with his career. So instead of just, like, Condemning him totally. And not mentioning him anymore. People keep bringing him up, and he's just going to continue to succeed because there's people that are racist and want that. Yeah, that's why he's blown up. I feel like, you know, we got to just move on from that. Talk about the good stuff from the Rose. There was plenty of good things to walk away with, you know, like me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what do you feel like that was a coming out moment for you?

[Naim Lynn]

First of all, I don't like that verbiage. You see how he set you up. You'll never.

[Lauren LaRose]

I'm the hole.

[Naim Lynn]

Nah, it was. You know, my career has been like a steady incline, and I feel like that was a good moment for me. Definitely helped with my tour. They had a weekend in Orlando last week, and it helped with ticket sales for sure. Was it what I wanted it to be? I don't know yet, but I know I was looking for a moment. And although a lot of people are saying that I was their favorite, there was just so much other stuff going on that took away from that moment for me. But, you know, I'm happy with what I did.

[Lauren LaRose]

Chappelle joke stood out to me, though.

[Naim Lynn]

Okay. Okay, we talk about that. What'd you say?

[DJ Envy]

I was gonna say. I was gonna say, what are you looking for, though? Because you tour with Kev. You open up for Kev. You're hilarious. People always say hilarious. I've been a bunch of your shows.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gretchen Whitmore loves you.

[Naim Lynn]

I know Michigan. Yeah. She making money off my joke.

[DJ Envy]

So what is Naeem looking for? Like, because you're getting. I feel like, what you want, right?

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, I just want. I want more acting work. You know, I have a show we seven seasons in. It's called Assisted Living. It's Tyler Perry Show. I want more acting work. I want to be able to do theaters. I don't even want. I don't want the Kevin Hart career. I want a career that works for me and the scrutiny that he has to take every day because of shit like this, I don't want that. I'm glad I got to witness it firsthand, you know what I mean? But I just want to be able to, you know, maybe do two movies a year and tour when I want to. I can spend time with my daughter, all of those things. That's what I want. That's an ideal situation for me. Just more. More work and more, you know, respect and notoriety for what I do. You asked about the Dave Chappelle joke, so I'm glad You asked about that.

[Lauren LaRose]

I feel like more people should have been like. Like, that should have been a conversation about your part of the show, too. That didn't happen either.

[Naim Lynn]

Well, people made videos about it. First and foremost, Dave Chappelle's my favorite comedian. All right. So when I made the joke about him, it was really like, you know, I'm roasting this person. I'm paying homage to them because I'm a fan of him. It seemed a little bit out of nowhere because he wasn't out there, but he was at the show. He just wasn't out in the arena.

[Lauren LaRose]

Got you.

[Naim Lynn]

And I took it out. Then I put it back in. The writers wanted me to do it so bad because they thought it was, you know, it was funny and controversial, which is what you're looking for on this roast. So he was there, but he was, like, somewhere in the back. I didn't even see him. So I thought it was a funny joke. I thought that he should be able to laugh at it, because he has a lot of transgender jokes and everything. And it's like, yo, if you gonna come for somebody, come for the king. But I'm a fan. It was really no disrespect. No disrespect to his wife. It was just a joke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I don't think it was a trans joke. I think it was a joke about his wife that probably, if he was upset, it would.

[Naim Lynn]

Well, that was part of the trans joke. Cause I said he married a Filipino lady boy. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y.

[Lauren LaRose]

So you didn't see him after you got off the stage?

[Naim Lynn]

No, I didn't. I didn't see him. I didn't see him at all, but I knew he was there, and he was just kind of. It was kind of like back and forth whether he was going to actually be out in the audience, and he decided not to.

[Lauren LaRose]

That next special, you gonna get two cigarettes now, you said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He just said something just now that was interesting. You said that you. When you sat with the writers, the writers wanted you to do the joke because it was controversial.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, yeah. They looking for that. They want to start some.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So somebody probably heard the George Floyd joking was like, oh, absolutely.

[Naim Lynn]

We had to submit our. We had to submit our routine before the show, and it kept. It had to be five minutes. Like, if you speaking with no laughter, it's five minutes, and then if it's laughter, it can be seven or eight minutes. So we all had to submit our material. They knew what we were going to

[Charlamagne Tha God]

say, but who knew Because Kev said he didn't know.

[Naim Lynn]

Kev did not know. The producers of the show, the writing room, those people knew. So I think that they would. They didn't care. Like, yo, you say what you want to say. That's on you. That's how I. That's how I looked at it. But with that joke, and it was a couple jokes I did that they thought were not funny. They're like, you sure you want to keep this? I'm like, yeah, I want to keep this. They thought the Draymond Green joke wasn't funny. And I got a applause break on that. They're like, you should. I'm like, yes, I've been working on this. I know what's funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because you was in the comedy club.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody told me that. Oh, you put it up on YouTube. Somebody put it up on YouTube.

[DJ Envy]

I was gonna ask, you know, you just said dave Chappelle is your favorite comedian.

[Naim Lynn]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

Why is Dave Chappelle your favorite? Over, let's say, Kev Hart, who you work with outright and go on the road with and talk.

[Naim Lynn]

So I'm fans of comedians for different reasons. Right. I'm a fan of Kev. Not only because he's funny, because his work ethic, you know, like, you gotta admire somebody that really, really put the work in. People call him a plant, and they say he was giving this. But I witnessed all of this shit, you know? You know, we've all seen the work.

[DJ Envy]

We've all seen the work grind. Yeah, absolutely.

[Naim Lynn]

Dave Chappelle. People don't realize that after he left the Chappelle show and people said he was crazy and he took his hiatus, he came back as a completely different person. He would get on stage and he would just talk. He would just talk. And then I think he discovered a new confidence within that. Cause people were just so enamored by him. They wanted to just hear what he had to say. So he would light a cigarette, get on stage and talk. And then he realized, like, oh, like, I'm really that guy. And now he doesn't have any TV shows. Everything he does is just stand up. So he doesn't have endorsements. He doesn't have to worry about any of those things. He's a free black man, and he can get on stage and say whatever he wants to say. And people hold on to every word. So I said that his special wasn't funny, but his special was brilliant. You know, it was probably in his top three. And he's done a lot. I think Sticks and Stones is Maybe his best one, I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sticks and stones. The best one.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then killing me softly yeah.

[Naim Lynn]

So he's just. He's funny as hell. I admire that level of confidence. To just get up there and just work on your. And go to the club not having anything to say. I can't do that. They'd be like, who this dude? Like, bro, you got two minutes. You know, you got 30 seconds, actually, to make us laugh, or we. We tapped out, right? So I think that it's comedy. And a lot of times I hear his comedy, I'm like, man, I kind of thought of something like that before. Like, I feel like with the right work ethic, and then if I start to get into political stuff, that I feel like I could be like a mini Chappelle. That's how I feel about myself, you know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I wonder about that, right? Cause it seems comedy seems to be one of the last places where people still expect complete honesty. So is that why comedians sort of kind of got to become these cultural commentators? Because you mentioned, you know, if you started doing politics and stuff, like.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, it depends on what type of comedian you are. Some comedians are just straight observational, like a Tony Roberts. Shout out to Tony Roberts. He just like funny stuff. And then you have some comedians that want to go political, like Chris Rock and you guys, comedians that are personal and talk about family and. And stories and stuff like that, like Kev. And then you got Chappelle. That's just like, you know, he. It's just a mixture of stuff. He don't really talk about his family, but it's just. He just talks about a lot of current stuff. And I appreciate his pen game, man. So I think he's this generation's goat.

[Lauren LaRose]

But that's why I thought that that moment, even you take. I mean, I didn't think there was real smoke with y' all or nothing. I knew that, like, he's one of the great. So I understood what you was doing, but that's why I thought it was so great of you even thinking to do that there on that stage when you're wanting people to be like, well, who was Naim? Once he walks off that stage, I thought that that was, like, a great joke selection. So thank you. Hopefully, you get what you want.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think comedians are being asked to be too much, though? Like, they asked. They're being asked to replace journalists in a lot of ways. Like you said, you got to talk politics. People want y' all to be therapists. Is it because people trust comedians more?

[Naim Lynn]

I Don't know. I don't. I think that you gotta. It's like a. Like a podcast or a self help book. You gotta go to the person that gives that instead of expecting everyone to just fall under that. You know, if you want political stuff, then you go to Chris Rock. You know, if you want to hear about just some regular funny stuff and family stuff and animals, you know, Kev always got to talk about an animal experience, and it's special. Then you go to that. So it's really about what resonates with you. Um, I don't feel like we have the expectations of doing that. I know that with this whole thing that's going on, you know, when you are a famous person, then people just expect stuff out of you. They want Kev to be Dick Gregory, you know, and he. He's not that. Like, you gotta know who you're dealing with. He's just not that. But he does so much for black people. And in this moment, I think where he could have came on and just said, I don't agree with it. He didn't want to do that because he's tired of being bullied. And, you know, what's the saying? Heavy is the crown that wears the crown. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What comes first for you? Is it comedy or being black?

[Naim Lynn]

For me, being black, being a comedian is just what I do. That's my career. I'm a black man for sure. That's. That's what's most important to me. What about you? I mean, you. You don't really have a choice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think I got. I got no choice. Yeah. I don't have no choice but to present black first. But the comedy has a different. Has different laws and different rules. Right. Because there's certain things that a comedian, especially a white one, will say on stage about a black person. I don't think they would say, just in regular, everyday conversation.

[Naim Lynn]

Give me an example.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tony Henchliffe joined the shit.

[Naim Lynn]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? He wouldn't say that in regular, everyday conversation around black people. But if he says it on stage, I guess it's. I guess it's people. It's accepted, I guess. I don't know.

[Naim Lynn]

But even what he said on stage in a regular show. Or is it just that the roast is this moment where we finally, as comedians get off, we can say whatever we want because cancel culture doesn't allow you to say the things you used to say. Excuse me. So now when it comes to this roast, it's like, all right, we gonna. We can say these words. We could say, talk about gay people. We could do all of these things because it's just okay for this one night. So I don't. I've never seen them do stand up, so I don't know what his stand up is like, but.

[Lauren LaRose]

Well, on his Kill Tony platform, he. I feel like he gets. He say. He says to me what he wants to say. He doesn't, like, hold back. I just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just question the why. Because, you know, once again, being black, right. There's certain things we don't do. I'm not clowning the dead, you know, Like, I even. Whether Cheryl Underwood's husband committing suicide or Pete Davidson's dad dying in 9 11. Charlie Kirkish. I ain't like George Floyd. I don't like why. I guess my thing is. Why would you want to joke about that?

[Naim Lynn]

I don't know. I mean, I made a joke about Kev's dead father, too, before, so.

[Lauren LaRose]

And his. The one you threw out with his. I think it was his grandma.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, that was. Yeah, that's different. But. But actually, I actually knew his father.

[Lauren LaRose]

Oh.

[Naim Lynn]

And when he did the Mark Twain, he got the Mark Twain prize a couple years ago. I made a joke. I said, your mother's looking down, you smiling. I said, your dad's looking up, burning, you know? So it was, damn. But I'm his friend, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're his friend?

[Lauren LaRose]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're his friend.

[DJ Envy]

You know his dad. You knew the family.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's what a rose should be. And once again, he. Kevin's on stage with y', all, right? So any. If he says, yo, y' all can make jokes about my dead dad, their mom, and y' all have at it, that's fine. The Floyd family, the Kirk family, they

[Naim Lynn]

ain't got nothing to do. They got nothing to do with it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cheryl's husband ain't got nothing to do with that. But she was on stage, so I guess impeach that Pete was on stage, so. So that's what makes a fair game.

[Naim Lynn]

The good thing about Cheryl, because they were going so hard on her, she started to hear, like, some things that people were going to say. And then Shane said he had a conversation with. I don't know. I guess that's true. I don't know. But she was really ready for the moment.

[DJ Envy]

She was prepared.

[Naim Lynn]

She was prepared, man. And she went up there, she killed it. I was so happy for her, man. Like, I was happier for her than I was for myself. Wow, that's dope.

[DJ Envy]

I was, first of all, you ain't asked me am I black or a DJ first, but I let that slide.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They know you, Dominic.

[DJ Envy]

I'm black. Don't say that Dominican stuff. Second of all, I was gonna ask, you know, how often do you and Kev argue? Cause it seems like you are that one person that just hard headed. You're gonna say what you want. And regardless, at the kitchen table, at Christmas dinner, Thanksgiving, then you gonna say that. How often do y' all argue?

[Naim Lynn]

I'm not hard headed. I'm just. I'm holding him to a standard, you know, you're not gonna just pull that bullshit on me. But we actually haven't argued in a long time because I have no sense of entitlement with anything. I appreciate Kevin as a friend. What he does for me career wise and who he is as a friend is two different things, and I appreciate them separately. But we don't argue. The last argument we had was probably around the Mark Twain shit. And that's why I was the only one out of all the guys on the roast, because with the Mark Twain prize, he didn't even really know what that was. And I seen Chappelle get. I saw Eddie Murphy get. I'm like, yo, this is a dope thing. And they're going to have people speak for you. And I want to be one of those people. Next thing I know, all of us up there, I'm like, this. They didn't even ask to do this shit. I asked to do it.

[Lauren LaRose]

They don't even know where they at.

[Naim Lynn]

They don't even know where that is. So he not only are the comedians, but the other guys in the group. So I'm like. And I had to. I had to dial it back, like, all right, I'm getting upset over a moment to honor him. And I was wrong. I said, look, this is your moment. I'm looking for a moment within your moment. And that's not okay. So I conceded on that. But that's probably like the last argument we've had. We don't argue.

[DJ Envy]

And why wasn't the other members, the other guys on the roast? Cause you said you were the only one.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, just because.

[DJ Envy]

Was that a problem through the crew?

[Naim Lynn]

Like, nah, they all. Look, my guys, they wanted that for me. Soon as he decided he was doing it, he called me, said, look, I'm not having the plastic cup boys and I'm having you on it. And he knows that's what I do. Like, I'm capable of doing the roast stuff, the writing, all of that. So the Guys supported me. They were happy as hell for me.

[Lauren LaRose]

I love that for y'.

[Naim Lynn]

All.

[Lauren LaRose]

I love the synergy. And I think too, like, when people. One thing I will say, when people are giving Kevin Hart pushback about this roast, he says something here where he was talking about what he does for black other black comedians. And like, a lot of people learn who you guys are because of Kevin. And the fact that that hasn't stopped. Y' all been at this for years with each other and having those real ego based conversations sometimes, but getting through it.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

And. But nobody talks about that.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, man. You know, when it's a hot topic and everybody's coming down on you, you forget about the bigger picture and all the things that he's done for black people, period. You know? But he's just. I think you gotta just lower your expectations out of him. He's just. He's an entertainer and he's a good guy. And I almost admire how he didn't come on here and throw Tony Hinchliffe under the bus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause he didn't wanna throw comedy under the bus. Right.

[Naim Lynn]

Because it's supposed to be, you know, freedom of speech. And he had the opportunity. Cause that's what Chelsea did. She threw him all the way under the bus. And Kev could have came on here and said, yeah, fuck him. You know, that was a terrible joke. But he didn't do that. And I respect him for that, even though he may have felt like that. But just like, I'm not gonna come on here and publicly trash this person that I had on my show.

[Lauren LaRose]

So I was going to ask you, would you have advised him not to do that? Because you talked about him being frustrated when he came here. Do you feel like he should have waited before he came here?

[Naim Lynn]

I didn't know he was gonna come in here and crash out like that.

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[Naim Lynn]

When I watched it, I was like, ooh, I know how he's feeling right now. Cause I know him personally and he's just like, he's in that space. I can't do shit right. You know what I mean? He's just like, yo, this was a roast. His energy on stage. Was him supposed to be being a good sport? He was being a good sport throughout it. And people compare him to Tom Brady. Tom Brady's not a comedian. Tom Brady stopped Jeff Ross in the middle of one joke. It was talking about a massage or some. I don't. I don't even know what the joke was, but that was serious. I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, everybody reported like it was serious. I thought it was just on some, like a bit.

[Naim Lynn]

I thought, he's not being funny.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Naim Lynn]

Don't say that again. Like, yeah, I didn't. I don't know if it was serious or not. I think they may have taken it out. If they. I think they took some stuff out and maybe they took out the stuff about his family and his kids. But

[Charlamagne Tha God]

did they cut jokes out of the Kevin Hart rose? Because that's what everybody's saying. They cut 18 jokes.

[Naim Lynn]

I don't know. They didn't cut any of my. I don't know. But I was just. I was looking at him. I was like, damn, my bro is. He's frustrated and this energy is just. It's probably not being received well, but he has good intention. He's a good dude, man. But sometimes you just gotta lower your expectations out of certain people. But, you know, also I understand how people feel too, though. It was a tasteless joke. Most importantly, it wasn't funny. And it was just like a moment for him to just say some controversial shit. And if that was the goal, it's working because we still talking about it three weeks later.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said Gretchen Whitmore owes you some money. Why?

[Naim Lynn]

So Gretchen Whitmore is the governor. Governor of Michigan. Yeah. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She loves your. Your Shark Week.

[Naim Lynn]

Shark Week.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's actually a joke about periods, but.

[Naim Lynn]

Right. And that joke was old as hell. And she. But one thing, she. She gives me credit. She my name up every time. She's like, yeah, that N. Lynn. He said the Shark Week joke at the Kevin Hart show. And then she just made like a slogan out of it. She's selling hats.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She wrote about it in her book. Really? That's why I read it. I read it in her book. Before we even interviewed her. I read it. She writes about it in her book.

[Lauren LaRose]

Does she mention him in the book?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. She was like, I went to go see Kevin Hart.

[Lauren LaRose]

That's what makes stuff you said you want.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She had a great comedian that opened for him named Naim Lynn. And she told the whole. It's a whole damn near subchapter in her book.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, she was on a late night show. I think it was Kimmel or something. And she's also. Did she mention on here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah. Yeah. She keeps giving me credit for this joke, but no money.

[Lauren LaRose]

You getting money?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You never met her. You never met her, though.

[Naim Lynn]

Nah, I've never met her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[Naim Lynn]

I've never met her. But people speak highly of her, though. You call it Big Gretch or some shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She said she tells that joke to herself before she gives speeches or debates. Cause she says it calms it down.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Naim Lynn]

I helped a white woman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the biggest lesson you think you've learned from being around? I guess just success for so long, especially at that level.

[Naim Lynn]

Ah, man. Of course. Work ethic. I've learned what it takes to be a celebrity. He's so good at that. That's why, you know. And you've interviewed him a million times. And Kev is like, he's so polished. He doesn't really make these mistakes in interviews. And not that he made A mistake. It was just like, you know, he was just frustrated. Yeah. He was upset, and it was real. Yeah, yeah. You saw, like, just the rawness of it all. But I've learned that, you know, being a celebrity is extremely difficult. It takes a lot to get to where he is, and I just appreciate the journey of it all. Also, I've seen that black people sometimes, like, when they. When they first. If they, like, discover you or they feel like they discover you and then you're not theirs anymore, then sometimes they, like, they make turning back on you. Because before he was, like, a huge star. They was. You know, people always want to say, I knew him when he did this.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that's my guy.

[Naim Lynn]

Or, like, perfect analogy. A boxer comes up, right? And then he gets the belt, and he's like, oh, I was watching him since the Olympics, So since. Since his first fight. So once he really, really became this mainstream star, then people turn their back on you a little bit. But thankfully, he's a movie star, so he still does well with the comedy shows and everything. But the fan base that. The original fan base, they were also coming for us. They knew who we were. And I think these new people. Because when you come to the show. Y' all was at the show. You was at the show last tour. It's like you got kicked out. 74. You got kicked out.

[DJ Envy]

I got kicked out the years. Years ago.

[Naim Lynn]

Okay. It's like 75% white. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And those are the movie star fans. Black people. Like, man, I watch that shit on Netflix.

[DJ Envy]

I was gonna ask you, do you. Does it bother you that Kev cares so much? Cause it feels like he cares. Like, he cares what people say, he cares what the critics say. He cares what Instagram says. Does that bother you at all?

[Naim Lynn]

I think he tries to avoid it, but when the stuff, like, at his level, you gotta post Ghosts, you can't read the comments. You know, people waiting to destroy you. No matter. You could say, yo, it's a beautiful day. Somebody can say, fuck you.

[DJ Envy]

True.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fuck you and your day, right?

[Naim Lynn]

No matter what I say on here, somebody's gonna be in the comments saying negative shit, right? I don't think that it bothers him that much. I think when he tries to do something good and he shows that I can take a joke and whatever. Whatever he does that he thinks is a good thing and is met with negativity, I think that's what frustrates him. But the average everyday stuff is like, whatever that comes with it, you know, that's just Part of being an entertainer, the more famous you become, the more negativity you're gonna receive. You gotta just ignore it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever struggled with comparison? Not even just with Kev, but just in general, like, what other comedians

[Naim Lynn]

like from. From inside myself? Nah, I don't. I don't care, bro. I'm not a hater. I want to see everybody succeed. I'm more focused on what I got going on, because when you spend time and energy talking about other people, then that's taken away from what you're trying to do. You know, a lot of people try to get famous off of talking about somebody else. Like, what are you doing? What are you doing to get further in your career? So, nah, I don't compare myself with anybody. I'm my favorite comedian. You know, I think I'm great. It's just a matter of finding my tribe. You know, you see a lot of comedians right now, the Josh Johnson and Deon Cole, like, they found their tribe, so people are coming to see them. The problem is, the most shows I do, they're coming to see Kevin, and then I steal a few fans. But some people may not like my humor because it's completely different than his. So it's just. I'm in that space of, like, all right, what do I do to find my tribe? It's hard. I don't even have, like, a. A city that I'm from. I'm from New Jersey. I'm from Hillside, but.

[Lauren LaRose]

Oh, I thought you was from Philly.

[Naim Lynn]

Nah, see, most people thought you from Philly. I thought, yeah, no, I'm from Hillside, New Jersey. Born in. Born and raised. Went to high school there. And it's a small town right next to Newark. And I never wanted to claim Newark because I'm like, nobody's from Hillside, but I started doing comedy in Philly when I was in college. So they embraced me a little bit. I embraced them a little bit. But that ain't where I'm from. Like, I'm from New Jersey. I'm proud to be from New Jersey. So it's really about finding my tribe, my supporters, and they just, you know, tag along for my career.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ever did a show in Hillside?

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, we did a show. We did a show at the high school one time. Me and my boy right here. He's a comedian. Jonathan Martin. We did a show at our high school years ago. It was a fun show.

[Lauren LaRose]

But what are you actively doing? Like, I mean, I see you're active on social media. How are you trying to find that Tribe. Because it is like, Kevin Hart is such a big star, and Plastic Cupboards has become kind of its own brand, right?

[Naim Lynn]

So now I'm just doing solo dates. I'm doing solo dates. Just testing. And I was doing Solo Date. I was a headliner before Plastic Cup Boys. But then, because we were getting so much attention and popularity from touring with Kevin, me and Spank decided, let's tour as Plastic Cup Boys. We can sell more tickets. And it was working at first, and then after a while, it's like, yo, I can do this shit by myself. You know, tickets ain't selling like that, so. But I'm just. I'm writing. That's what I'm doing.

[Lauren LaRose]

Got you.

[Naim Lynn]

Snoop Dogg dropped the gem on me, you know, he came to our show in Australia. He's like, yo, your pen is your gift. So I'm like, all right. I received that, Snoop. And I never wanted to just be a writer because I feel like I always want to be in front of the camera. I want to be an actor. So I feel like if you become a writer, then people only look at you as that. So, yeah, that's one of the things that's listed about me. I'm a writer. I've written this, I've written that. But I'm really locking into that, writing scripts, writing shows, stuff for me to star in. And I think that that's gonna help with my career.

[DJ Envy]

But do you like the grind work? Do you like the, like, you know, we all see Kevin start off right, but do you like the. Do you think you're too big to do some of the stuff that. The 11:00pm shows and pop in and pop out the 8:00 clock shows and do that type of stuff? Or you say, like, nah, I ain't doing that. I'm too big for that.

[Naim Lynn]

I love doing that. I do free shows all the time. When I come to the city, I go to the Cellar. I love. I love doing standup. It's now I do the small shows, the big shows or whatever, because I just want to work on my craft, and I gotta stay fresh because I feel like if I missed two weeks off stage and I'm rusty, you know, I'm in Sacramento next week at the. At the Punchline, so I'll probably go up tonight because I don't want that week in between. Why I didn't go on stage. I don't care about the money, bro. I care about it because I need it. But I'm more. I care more about the art of it all. And being a solid comedian, and I care about being a good actor. So I'm getting my reps in on the show, on Tyler Perry show, and I feel like I'm, like, right there at the cliff. I just need one. One little push, and I'm gonna be where I need to be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You, you were supposed to be a writer on the Rose, right? I heard that you were supposed to be a writer for the whole roast, but you said, nah, I just want to focus on my. My set.

[Naim Lynn]

No, I was right. On the Tom Brady roast. Okay. On this roast. No, I actually asked them if they wanted me to write because I had a Zoom call with the writers room, and they, like, I thought they were gonna ask about my jokes. They were asking about Kev. They realized they didn't really know shit about him. So I realized a couple minutes into the conversation, like, oh, y' all need me. Like, y' all trying to grill me about some stuff with Kevin. And then after I got off the call, I told my agent, I said, I got extra material. I wrote, like, 15 minutes worth of stuff. If they want it, they can pay me, and I'll give it to them. Crickets. Wow. I'm like, all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because it was that whole controversy there. Michael Shea said that there was no black writers, even though, I mean, I know it was black writers, but he posted that it was just, like, six white writers.

[Naim Lynn]

That Zoom call I had was 20 middle aged white people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Naim Lynn]

There was no black people in there. I think now, if you had your own writers, then you might have had somebody black. But as far as the Netflix writers, it was just. I thought they were executives. They're like, no, this is the writers. I'm like, oh, on the credits, it

[Charlamagne Tha God]

was mad black writers listed, though.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yeah. Like, explain that. He's like, Chris Princer, too, was saying

[Naim Lynn]

those were Kevin's writers. Yeah. As far as the. If you came on the show as one of the people in the dais, then you were able to bring writers in with you.

[Lauren LaRose]

Gotcha.

[Naim Lynn]

But as far as the Netflix writers, All white people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Boy, Naim gonna tell it, naim. You just see all you did was start ending it back up again.

[Naim Lynn]

But you can't blame nobody for that. That's Netflix.

[Lauren LaRose]

Who would have used the jokes from the Netflix writers? Cause the people sitting on the stage can come with their own writers, but if not, they depend on the Netflix writers.

[Naim Lynn]

Well, they kept trying to give me stuff. I was like, nah, I don't need y'. All. I wrote my own shit. Me and Big J I think are probably the only people that wrote their whole set. And that's it. The people that may have needed writers were Teyana Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Naim Lynn]

Like, maybe she didn't use them because that shit was trash. I love Tiana. She's a great actress, and that's not gonna affect her career. But, geez, that.

[DJ Envy]

Who else you didn't like, man? Who else wasn't funny to you during that?

[Naim Lynn]

Listen, you don't have to. You don't have to do that to try to pull it out of me. I'll say it.

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead.

[Naim Lynn]

Go. The Williams sisters. I don't know what the fuck they were talking about. Talking in the mic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I didn't even see that. I checked out by then.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

Who wrote for Tom Brady? He was good.

[Naim Lynn]

They probably wrote for him. Okay. Tom was. Tom was great. They probably wrote for him. And I was in and out of the Rock too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pause. Like, it felt. It just felt like it was too long.

[Naim Lynn]

Like, pause again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pause again. Yes. But, you know, you. You know,

[DJ Envy]

stop with your hands, man. We got what you said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It didn't feel like it was going on. It was dragging on a little bit.

[Naim Lynn]

I thought the Rock was incredible. It was like a wwe. Like, he really seized the moment and, yeah, he got a little weird with it.

[DJ Envy]

Sucked my nipples crazy.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, he got a little weird with it, but it was like, I like

[Charlamagne Tha God]

some of the weird. I like when he was like, I got a tattoo of Kevin Hart on my dick.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was like, you wanna see it? And Kevin was like, no, no.

[Naim Lynn]

He was like, your wife.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your wife. Wanna see it? Yeah. Oh, she already saw it. That was funny.

[Naim Lynn]

I thought the Rock was great. It was like, really, like a. Just showed why he is who he is. Yeah, he got a little gay, but it was funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought Regina was great.

[Naim Lynn]

Regina was hilarious. So. Okay, so Regina sat next to me. And people kept thinking that Regina was just not laughing at things, but I think she was just locked into this character the whole show.

[Lauren LaRose]

Okay.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah. Like, she was the psychic.

[Lauren LaRose]

People thought she was so annoyed by the white people.

[Naim Lynn]

Nah, she was. She kept talking to me. I got off. She was like, that was great. You know, she kind of, like, was. She's like, that was great. And she was like, who you think is doing the worst? Right? So I'm like. I'm like, why? She was like, you'll see. I just need to know who's the worst. And then Teyana went up and I was like, she was the worst. And then she goes up there and she said, Your mother also told me that Teyana Taylor was going bomb tonight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Naim Lynn]

That's why she wanted. She was locked in. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Naim Lynn]

That's why she wanted to know who was the worst.

[Lauren LaRose]

He's so amazing.

[Naim Lynn]

Regina is the shit, man. She was great. I thought she was funny as hell, too. I thought Pete Davidson was funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought Pete was funny.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah. I thought most of the people did. Did great. And it's just not being talked about because we're talking about.

[DJ Envy]

That's one little.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. You had a moment where, you know, they do you. They said you caused them all to leave. That's what people in the room told me. They said you. You. The joke you made about Lamar Odom caused him to leave the room.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, they said he walked out.

[Naim Lynn]

I don't know. I didn't see that. He was at the after party, though. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's what we were told. People that was in the room was

[Lauren LaRose]

like, he got up and left.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He got up and left. I don't know how true that is.

[DJ Envy]

If he was upset, Lamar would have stepped to you, though. Lamar would have said something to you. If he was upset, I think.

[Naim Lynn]

What are you gonna say? He said the. In this. In the documentary, you smoking crack. So what? I just say what you said. I know that because you said it. What are you mad about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And there was that. I saw one headline that said, lamar Odom looks visibly annoyed. His comic makes brutal joke. They flashed the camera Spence on Netflix. That was on mirror.

[Naim Lynn]

What I heard is he mouthed, what did he say? Like, he didn't really hear what I said, but I don't. I don't know. I don't care.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was a joke about the rock,

[Naim Lynn]

and I said, I don't want no smoke with rock. That's what almost killed Lamar Odom.

[DJ Envy]

That was clever. That was clever.

[Naim Lynn]

I like that. Yeah, I'm a fan. I'm a Lakers fan. So I just made a joke off of something that you gave to the world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So at the after party, he spoke to you or.

[Naim Lynn]

Nah,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

them after party's gotta be awkward after y' all done arrested all these people.

[Naim Lynn]

I don't know if he saw me. He had on shades. I saw him walking through, you know, the slow bop, and I just like, oh, there's Lamar Odom. If he would have said something, what is he gonna say? I don't appreciate that shit. You said that. I said, what are we talking about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was there any joke you was nervous to tell in those moments?

[Naim Lynn]

Um, if anything, the Chappelle joke Cause only. Only because he wasn't out there. Like, I wanted him to see that shit. I want him to be there and be like, oh, that was, you know, that was good, or whatever. But I heard that he wasn't mad about the joke. He was mad cause I said the special wasn't funny.

[Lauren LaRose]

That's the part too that I thought that would get you a little like, not conversation a bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the worst thing you could say to a comedian.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah. But once again, it was ingest. I think that his special was amazing. I'm a fan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe that.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, no, I thought it was good,

[Lauren LaRose]

but you felt like. I don't.

[DJ Envy]

You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't. You're not a liar. You're not gonna just say something like that.

[Naim Lynn]

I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Naim Lynn]

I'm not a liar. So why would I say that if I don't think it was good?

[Lauren LaRose]

Because even if it's punching up, as a comedian, you know, like, Dave Chappelle is one of the best. Right. And you're saying you don't even be telling jokes where basically where you go, where's Dave Chappelle?

[Naim Lynn]

I said, what I said was, I saw your last special. Some jokes would have been nice. And it's because there was a lot of. It was speechy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You were talking.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, yeah. But it was still engaging. I watched the whole thing. It's hard to watch somebody special, top to bottom. Like, you know, I think special should be back in the half hour range because that, our shit is like, yo, you got so many distractions. You on your phone, you know, you're doing this, doing that. I think special should be a half hour. But Dave, I love Dave Chappelle. He's my favorite comedian, hands down. Him, then Kev. No, I'm sorry. Me, Chappelle, then Kev.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's something at 25 you wanted that you don't even care about no more? You don't even care about having today

[Naim Lynn]

whole bunch of pussy. I mean, is. Is that not real?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, yes, absolutely. I was taking it more on a professional level, but that's a good.

[Lauren LaRose]

Did you get all of it that you wanted or are you just more disciplined? Like, what?

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, man. Yeah, I had my run. I had my run. You know, I still, I still, like. I'm not like, I don't like men or anything now. I still like coaching.

[Lauren LaRose]

Good to know.

[Naim Lynn]

But no, you got to put that out there. You know, people. People think things. But at 25, I was a starving artist. I wanted a car, a home Money, the things that I eventually got. But, nah, that's about it. I can't think of anything else.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was the. Was the rose worth it in its totality?

[Naim Lynn]

For me, just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, for you. But also, I guess, for the. For the. For the brand of Kevin as well, because that still impacts you in a way.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah, I guess it remains to be seen. But he said he got a lot of good things in the works, so would they have happened without the roast? I'm sure the backlash. The good thing about social media is something else is going to happen tomorrow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, you on Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Well,

[Naim Lynn]

but, you know, things are going to happen and people will forget about that. But for me, yeah, it was worth it. This is my fifth time up here, and every time I've come up here, I really. It was just conversation. This is the first time I came up here and had something to actually talk about that was current. So, yeah, it's beneficial to me. I've sold some tickets. After this, I'll sell a few more tickets. And, yeah, it was a plus.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, we appreciate you for joining us, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Naim Lin.

[DJ Envy]

Naim Lin. You can check them on tour. How can they follow you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Naim, I do have one last question. I wanna end with. I do. Let's just say 15 years from now, right? When people talk about this era of comedy, what do you hope they say about Naim Lynn? That has nothing to do with Kevin

[Lauren LaRose]

Hart

[Naim Lynn]

as a comedian or as a person comedian? As a comedian, like, well, he didn't

[Charlamagne Tha God]

want pussy after 25.

[Naim Lynn]

I think in 15 years, people would just be like, yo, I always wanted to be a comedian's comedian. The person that when I get on stage, the other comics stop what they're doing to see what I have to say now. And I feel like I've achieved that, and I just want to be just respected over and over again. The most love that I got off of this roast was from the other comics. Even comics that don't even really like each other, they're like, yo, you fucking killed that shit. So I appreciate my peers and their opinion. So in 15 years from now, I want people to be like, yo, he holds his own. I don't really care about somebody saying I was the funniest of the group or anything like that. I don't care. That's all subjective. But, like, yo, he's a headliner within his own right. He holds his own. We saw where he came from. At this point, 15 years later, he's doing all the things that he wanted to do. And I respect his grind. That's it. Because I've never tried to just live off of Kevin, what he has going on. I've always simultaneously been working on my own career, right? So. And the people know that, especially the other comedians. So when they look back, I'm like, yo, he did it. That's what I want to happen 15 years from now. Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, and also, Naim is our first guest on Netflix. Netflix. You know, we start live on Netflix today.

[DJ Envy]

Today you're our first live guest on Netflix.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Coming on Netflix. On Netflix for Tony, Hank, Cliff.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And the writers and the white writers

[DJ Envy]

with no black people in it. But that's all good.

[Lauren LaRose]

See, he wanted them people that support you till you get to the place and then boom. Look, now all of the headlines always support Naim. It was a joke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay.

[Naim Lynn]

Yeah. Nah, they're my brothers. But yeah, I mean, that's what's up. I didn't know that. So Gretchen owes me a check. And now y' all owe me a check.

[DJ Envy]

Naeem Lynn, ladies and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Naim Lynn]

Hold up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.

[Naim Lynn]

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