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Charlamagne Tha God
Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, indeed.
DJ Envy
Comedian Naim Lynn. Welcome, brother.
Naim Lynn
What's good? What up?
Charlamagne Tha God
One thing that's constant conversation is the roast to Kevin Hart. And the thing that people talk about, other than the bs, is how great Naim Lynn did.
Naim Lynn
Oh, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Now you did your thing. And the one thing I love is if you follow him on Instagram, you kind of led up to what you were doing, like documenting. You trying jokes out, seeing what worked. Seeing what didn't work.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
DJ Envy
But my question to you was, were there a couple things that you said, nah, I'm not gonna do. This is too far. Or was there a too far when you came to writing jokes, going at Kev.
Naim Lynn
Nah, nah. Everything I did was pretty much like what you saw. I had to take out a couple things because of time, but it was nothing. That was too far. Yeah. I wasn't gonna throw my man under the bus like that.
DJ Envy
Do you really feel like, you know Kev, 25 years, and he could have put you in a bunch of movies that come from your heart? It was just like, I felt that a little bit, like, yeah, you know that man a long time. I ain't really sitting there. Ain't been known in the movies.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's been the narrative for a while. People like to talk about that. You let, you know, you let the chit chat get in your head and all that, but I'm in that space now of gratitude. I just focus on what he has done for me instead of what he hasn't. You know what I mean? Like, people get to decide what they want to do. And the fact that I've been working with him for all these years, and, I mean, he put me in the roast. It's a lot of good stuff, man. You know, you got to get it yourself, too. So it is what it is.
Charlamagne Tha God
I always felt like you were the person that kept everything, I guess, grounded in reality. In that crew, though.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I always took from it. Not saying. Not saying he had. He got yes men around him, because he don't. But you always were 100% honest about everything.
Naim Lynn
Absolutely.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Naim Lynn
Yeah. You know, I mean, I think most of the guys are. If you ever listen to our radio show, straight from the heart. We all. We all get on each other. There are some yes men, but I'm definitely. I'm definitely not one of them.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Naim Lynn
I'm not one of them. And not necessarily into like the immediate crew, but, you know, when you at that level, you're gonna have those people that say, everything you do is. I tell them like, yo, that was some bull.
Charlamagne Tha God
What are some of the biggest misconceptions that came from the roast, you think?
Naim Lynn
Man, I feel like people just. A roast is a roast, you know, people are going to say some off color things. And I just feel like anybody that says something that you don't agree with, they should receive that energy alone. It shouldn't go to anyone else. You know, everybody's overshadowing the good stuff about the roast because of the couple of negative things that were said. Like, Cheryl Underwood destroyed that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely. He's got a special out of it.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, yeah. And. And that's Kev's doing. You know, like, people keep talking about the Tony Hinchcliffe thing. I feel like this in the moment, I wasn't even really. He was going so fast. I didn't really, like, listen to him like that. But the joke, he said it was corny. That more than any. More than it being offensive, it just was corny. It was a corny ass joke. If anybody has negativity, it should go towards him. But Cheryl Underwood came on and packed all of them up. Yeah. So anything that we were feeling in the moment was like, oh, it may be like, oh, that was kind of disrespectful, but it was rude. She came in and handled that for everybody. So by the end of the night, I don't think anybody was even thinking about that. You know, I know I wasn't. I was. When I was sitting there, I was like, damn. I was thinking about the standing note that I didn't get because this was supposed to be a moment. You know, everybody talk about how Nikki Glazer did the Tom Brady roast and her career took off from that. So everybody's looking for this moment. I know I was, and I had a good set, but I was like, dang, nobody stand up for me at this.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, it might be that for Cheryl.
Naim Lynn
Cheryl had the moment, but Cheryl's already established. Cheryl's already been on a daytime talk show. She's been a comedian for 40 years. She's already been doing her thing. So. But it was a refresher for her for sure. You know, she came up there, she got three standing O's. All of that racial stuff, she handled that in Five minutes. And then people are attacking Kev for not standing up for black people, I guess, in that moment. But he did something for Cheryl. So we need to put more energy on that, on this black woman that was being attacked more than anybody on that stage. She now walks away with a special. And then she did a. Her little victory tour the week after, and she did these interviews and she's like, you know, it's a roast. She wasn't offended by most of the things. She's like, it's a roast. It's no hose barred. You say what you want, but everybody wanted Kev to come on here and. And condemn that joke. And should he had it? I mean, I guess he did in a way, but I guess it was the tone and everything. I don't know.
Charlamagne Tha God
It was tasteless.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, he. He did say it was.
Charlamagne Tha God
He would never make a joke like that.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, yeah, he did say it was tasteless. It was tasteless and it was corny.
DJ Envy
You just said it was corny. I was gonna say you said it was corny. You know, you don't ever really hear comedians say other comedians jokes is corny or whack. But during this case, not too much. Usually comedians, right, ride with each other. They whatever. But during this case, I've seen a lot of comedians say, nah, it was trash. It was whack. He was racist. He was this, that, and the other.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, I love racial humor, but this gotta be funny. And if it's not funny, then, you know, you just saying some just to say it and he has to receive all that. I feel like Kevin is getting more negative energy than the person that said it.
Charlamagne Tha God
And also, that's not racist humor. That is trying to make a joke of somebody's violent, tragic death at the hands of the police. Right.
Lauren LaRose
Because I saw a Spink post yesterday that, like, there were other jokes said about, like, his mom, Kevin Hart's mom and dad. But we supposed to be upset about the joke about George Floyd because he was killed by a white cop. Like, do you understand the frustration that people have with Kevin?
Naim Lynn
I understand the frustration of the joke. The moment it wasn't funny with him. I know people. He didn't say anything until he came on here. That was the first interview he did.
Lauren LaRose
Yeah.
Naim Lynn
And people wanted him to just simply come on and condemn the joke and say, I don't support that. But he had other things to say about it that didn't seem like maybe it came off like he didn't care as much. I don't know. But you Gotta understand that this is a guy that's been bullied over and over again. You know, they took away the Oscars from him years ago, then he had to go on an apology tour. So you got a guy that's just really frustrated. And, you know, when you've been bullied into these apologies and you can't. You feel like you can't do anything right, then sometimes you just, like, that's the type of energy you have.
Charlamagne Tha God
But people will bring that up too, though. They'll be like, oh, so you can apologize to the lgbtq.
Naim Lynn
He didn't want to.
Charlamagne Tha God
He didn't want to, but he did, so. But you can't do that for the family of George Floyd and black people.
Naim Lynn
But what's the apology?
Charlamagne Tha God
And also, I will say, I think the difference is he actually made the jokes with the LGBTQ community. He didn't say this.
Naim Lynn
Right? He didn't say. And he was also there to support when George Floyd was murdered. He was there. So what is he apologizing for? He's apologizing for what somebody else said. You know, I don't really understand that. I think we can all agree that it was a tasteless joke. It wasn't funny. And, you know, people say, well, why did he have Tony Hinchliff on the show?
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, that's a valid question.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, but nobody knew he was gonna say that. You know, he's good at roasting. He's done roast in the past, and people have enjoyed it. Crazy thing is, he has a black writer, and I think the black writer wrote that joke.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's crazy.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
Lauren LaRose
Tony Hinchcliffe.
Naim Lynn
Yes. That's wild.
Lauren LaRose
Who is the black writer?
Naim Lynn
Yeah, I think he's. He's one of Tony's writers.
Charlamagne Tha God
You never put name on the stand.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, it is, because some of the
Lauren LaRose
writers were coming out talking about what did and what didn't make it. I don't know why we didn't hear from this black writer. Like, you know what I mean?
Naim Lynn
Well, I don't know. I don't know if he wrote that joke. Okay. I heard that he possibly did, but I know that he writes for Tony. He was part of that writing team.
DJ Envy
Gotcha.
Naim Lynn
But he's a controversial comic. You know, that's, like, kind of what he does. So I think if when it comes to Tony Hinchcliffe, let's say he is racist. Right. This energy is giving him what he wants. The fact that we still talking about him three weeks later is just helping him with his career. So instead of just, like, Condemning him totally. And not mentioning him anymore. People keep bringing him up, and he's just going to continue to succeed because there's people that are racist and want that. Yeah, that's why he's blown up. I feel like, you know, we got to just move on from that. Talk about the good stuff from the Rose. There was plenty of good things to walk away with, you know, like me.
Charlamagne Tha God
So what do you feel like that was a coming out moment for you?
Naim Lynn
First of all, I don't like that verbiage. You see how he set you up. You'll never.
Lauren LaRose
I'm the hole.
Naim Lynn
Nah, it was. You know, my career has been like a steady incline, and I feel like that was a good moment for me. Definitely helped with my tour. They had a weekend in Orlando last week, and it helped with ticket sales for sure. Was it what I wanted it to be? I don't know yet, but I know I was looking for a moment. And although a lot of people are saying that I was their favorite, there was just so much other stuff going on that took away from that moment for me. But, you know, I'm happy with what I did.
Lauren LaRose
Chappelle joke stood out to me, though.
Naim Lynn
Okay. Okay, we talk about that. What'd you say?
DJ Envy
I was gonna say. I was gonna say, what are you looking for, though? Because you tour with Kev. You open up for Kev. You're hilarious. People always say hilarious. I've been a bunch of your shows.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Gretchen Whitmore loves you.
Naim Lynn
I know Michigan. Yeah. She making money off my joke.
DJ Envy
So what is Naeem looking for? Like, because you're getting. I feel like, what you want, right?
Naim Lynn
Yeah, I just want. I want more acting work. You know, I have a show we seven seasons in. It's called Assisted Living. It's Tyler Perry Show. I want more acting work. I want to be able to do theaters. I don't even want. I don't want the Kevin Hart career. I want a career that works for me and the scrutiny that he has to take every day because of shit like this, I don't want that. I'm glad I got to witness it firsthand, you know what I mean? But I just want to be able to, you know, maybe do two movies a year and tour when I want to. I can spend time with my daughter, all of those things. That's what I want. That's an ideal situation for me. Just more. More work and more, you know, respect and notoriety for what I do. You asked about the Dave Chappelle joke, so I'm glad You asked about that.
Lauren LaRose
I feel like more people should have been like. Like, that should have been a conversation about your part of the show, too. That didn't happen either.
Naim Lynn
Well, people made videos about it. First and foremost, Dave Chappelle's my favorite comedian. All right. So when I made the joke about him, it was really like, you know, I'm roasting this person. I'm paying homage to them because I'm a fan of him. It seemed a little bit out of nowhere because he wasn't out there, but he was at the show. He just wasn't out in the arena.
Lauren LaRose
Got you.
Naim Lynn
And I took it out. Then I put it back in. The writers wanted me to do it so bad because they thought it was, you know, it was funny and controversial, which is what you're looking for on this roast. So he was there, but he was, like, somewhere in the back. I didn't even see him. So I thought it was a funny joke. I thought that he should be able to laugh at it, because he has a lot of transgender jokes and everything. And it's like, yo, if you gonna come for somebody, come for the king. But I'm a fan. It was really no disrespect. No disrespect to his wife. It was just a joke.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I don't think it was a trans joke. I think it was a joke about his wife that probably, if he was upset, it would.
Naim Lynn
Well, that was part of the trans joke. Cause I said he married a Filipino lady boy. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y.
Lauren LaRose
So you didn't see him after you got off the stage?
Naim Lynn
No, I didn't. I didn't see him. I didn't see him at all, but I knew he was there, and he was just kind of. It was kind of like back and forth whether he was going to actually be out in the audience, and he decided not to.
Lauren LaRose
That next special, you gonna get two cigarettes now, you said.
Charlamagne Tha God
He just said something just now that was interesting. You said that you. When you sat with the writers, the writers wanted you to do the joke because it was controversial.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, yeah. They looking for that. They want to start some.
Charlamagne Tha God
So somebody probably heard the George Floyd joking was like, oh, absolutely.
Naim Lynn
We had to submit our. We had to submit our routine before the show, and it kept. It had to be five minutes. Like, if you speaking with no laughter, it's five minutes, and then if it's laughter, it can be seven or eight minutes. So we all had to submit our material. They knew what we were going to
Charlamagne Tha God
say, but who knew Because Kev said he didn't know.
Naim Lynn
Kev did not know. The producers of the show, the writing room, those people knew. So I think that they would. They didn't care. Like, yo, you say what you want to say. That's on you. That's how I. That's how I looked at it. But with that joke, and it was a couple jokes I did that they thought were not funny. They're like, you sure you want to keep this? I'm like, yeah, I want to keep this. They thought the Draymond Green joke wasn't funny. And I got a applause break on that. They're like, you should. I'm like, yes, I've been working on this. I know what's funny.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because you was in the comedy club.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Somebody told me that. Oh, you put it up on YouTube. Somebody put it up on YouTube.
DJ Envy
I was gonna ask, you know, you just said dave Chappelle is your favorite comedian.
Naim Lynn
Right.
DJ Envy
Why is Dave Chappelle your favorite? Over, let's say, Kev Hart, who you work with outright and go on the road with and talk.
Naim Lynn
So I'm fans of comedians for different reasons. Right. I'm a fan of Kev. Not only because he's funny, because his work ethic, you know, like, you gotta admire somebody that really, really put the work in. People call him a plant, and they say he was giving this. But I witnessed all of this shit, you know? You know, we've all seen the work.
DJ Envy
We've all seen the work grind. Yeah, absolutely.
Naim Lynn
Dave Chappelle. People don't realize that after he left the Chappelle show and people said he was crazy and he took his hiatus, he came back as a completely different person. He would get on stage and he would just talk. He would just talk. And then I think he discovered a new confidence within that. Cause people were just so enamored by him. They wanted to just hear what he had to say. So he would light a cigarette, get on stage and talk. And then he realized, like, oh, like, I'm really that guy. And now he doesn't have any TV shows. Everything he does is just stand up. So he doesn't have endorsements. He doesn't have to worry about any of those things. He's a free black man, and he can get on stage and say whatever he wants to say. And people hold on to every word. So I said that his special wasn't funny, but his special was brilliant. You know, it was probably in his top three. And he's done a lot. I think Sticks and Stones is Maybe his best one, I think.
Charlamagne Tha God
Sticks and stones. The best one.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
And then killing me softly yeah.
Naim Lynn
So he's just. He's funny as hell. I admire that level of confidence. To just get up there and just work on your. And go to the club not having anything to say. I can't do that. They'd be like, who this dude? Like, bro, you got two minutes. You know, you got 30 seconds, actually, to make us laugh, or we. We tapped out, right? So I think that it's comedy. And a lot of times I hear his comedy, I'm like, man, I kind of thought of something like that before. Like, I feel like with the right work ethic, and then if I start to get into political stuff, that I feel like I could be like a mini Chappelle. That's how I feel about myself, you know?
Charlamagne Tha God
But I wonder about that, right? Cause it seems comedy seems to be one of the last places where people still expect complete honesty. So is that why comedians sort of kind of got to become these cultural commentators? Because you mentioned, you know, if you started doing politics and stuff, like.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, it depends on what type of comedian you are. Some comedians are just straight observational, like a Tony Roberts. Shout out to Tony Roberts. He just like funny stuff. And then you have some comedians that want to go political, like Chris Rock and you guys, comedians that are personal and talk about family and. And stories and stuff like that, like Kev. And then you got Chappelle. That's just like, you know, he. It's just a mixture of stuff. He don't really talk about his family, but it's just. He just talks about a lot of current stuff. And I appreciate his pen game, man. So I think he's this generation's goat.
Lauren LaRose
But that's why I thought that that moment, even you take. I mean, I didn't think there was real smoke with y' all or nothing. I knew that, like, he's one of the great. So I understood what you was doing, but that's why I thought it was so great of you even thinking to do that there on that stage when you're wanting people to be like, well, who was Naim? Once he walks off that stage, I thought that that was, like, a great joke selection. So thank you. Hopefully, you get what you want.
Charlamagne Tha God
You think comedians are being asked to be too much, though? Like, they asked. They're being asked to replace journalists in a lot of ways. Like you said, you got to talk politics. People want y' all to be therapists. Is it because people trust comedians more?
Naim Lynn
I Don't know. I don't. I think that you gotta. It's like a. Like a podcast or a self help book. You gotta go to the person that gives that instead of expecting everyone to just fall under that. You know, if you want political stuff, then you go to Chris Rock. You know, if you want to hear about just some regular funny stuff and family stuff and animals, you know, Kev always got to talk about an animal experience, and it's special. Then you go to that. So it's really about what resonates with you. Um, I don't feel like we have the expectations of doing that. I know that with this whole thing that's going on, you know, when you are a famous person, then people just expect stuff out of you. They want Kev to be Dick Gregory, you know, and he. He's not that. Like, you gotta know who you're dealing with. He's just not that. But he does so much for black people. And in this moment, I think where he could have came on and just said, I don't agree with it. He didn't want to do that because he's tired of being bullied. And, you know, what's the saying? Heavy is the crown that wears the crown. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
What comes first for you? Is it comedy or being black?
Naim Lynn
For me, being black, being a comedian is just what I do. That's my career. I'm a black man for sure. That's. That's what's most important to me. What about you? I mean, you. You don't really have a choice.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think I got. I got no choice. Yeah. I don't have no choice but to present black first. But the comedy has a different. Has different laws and different rules. Right. Because there's certain things that a comedian, especially a white one, will say on stage about a black person. I don't think they would say, just in regular, everyday conversation.
Naim Lynn
Give me an example.
Charlamagne Tha God
Tony Henchliffe joined the shit.
Naim Lynn
Oh, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I'm saying? He wouldn't say that in regular, everyday conversation around black people. But if he says it on stage, I guess it's. I guess it's people. It's accepted, I guess. I don't know.
Naim Lynn
But even what he said on stage in a regular show. Or is it just that the roast is this moment where we finally, as comedians get off, we can say whatever we want because cancel culture doesn't allow you to say the things you used to say. Excuse me. So now when it comes to this roast, it's like, all right, we gonna. We can say these words. We could say, talk about gay people. We could do all of these things because it's just okay for this one night. So I don't. I've never seen them do stand up, so I don't know what his stand up is like, but.
Lauren LaRose
Well, on his Kill Tony platform, he. I feel like he gets. He say. He says to me what he wants to say. He doesn't, like, hold back. I just.
Charlamagne Tha God
I just question the why. Because, you know, once again, being black, right. There's certain things we don't do. I'm not clowning the dead, you know, Like, I even. Whether Cheryl Underwood's husband committing suicide or Pete Davidson's dad dying in 9 11. Charlie Kirkish. I ain't like George Floyd. I don't like why. I guess my thing is. Why would you want to joke about that?
Naim Lynn
I don't know. I mean, I made a joke about Kev's dead father, too, before, so.
Lauren LaRose
And his. The one you threw out with his. I think it was his grandma.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, that was. Yeah, that's different. But. But actually, I actually knew his father.
Lauren LaRose
Oh.
Naim Lynn
And when he did the Mark Twain, he got the Mark Twain prize a couple years ago. I made a joke. I said, your mother's looking down, you smiling. I said, your dad's looking up, burning, you know? So it was, damn. But I'm his friend, though.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're his friend?
Lauren LaRose
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're his friend.
DJ Envy
You know his dad. You knew the family.
Charlamagne Tha God
But that's what a rose should be. And once again, he. Kevin's on stage with y', all, right? So any. If he says, yo, y' all can make jokes about my dead dad, their mom, and y' all have at it, that's fine. The Floyd family, the Kirk family, they
Naim Lynn
ain't got nothing to do. They got nothing to do with it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cheryl's husband ain't got nothing to do with that. But she was on stage, so I guess impeach that Pete was on stage, so. So that's what makes a fair game.
Naim Lynn
The good thing about Cheryl, because they were going so hard on her, she started to hear, like, some things that people were going to say. And then Shane said he had a conversation with. I don't know. I guess that's true. I don't know. But she was really ready for the moment.
DJ Envy
She was prepared.
Naim Lynn
She was prepared, man. And she went up there, she killed it. I was so happy for her, man. Like, I was happier for her than I was for myself. Wow, that's dope.
DJ Envy
I was, first of all, you ain't asked me am I black or a DJ first, but I let that slide.
Charlamagne Tha God
They know you, Dominic.
DJ Envy
I'm black. Don't say that Dominican stuff. Second of all, I was gonna ask, you know, how often do you and Kev argue? Cause it seems like you are that one person that just hard headed. You're gonna say what you want. And regardless, at the kitchen table, at Christmas dinner, Thanksgiving, then you gonna say that. How often do y' all argue?
Naim Lynn
I'm not hard headed. I'm just. I'm holding him to a standard, you know, you're not gonna just pull that bullshit on me. But we actually haven't argued in a long time because I have no sense of entitlement with anything. I appreciate Kevin as a friend. What he does for me career wise and who he is as a friend is two different things, and I appreciate them separately. But we don't argue. The last argument we had was probably around the Mark Twain shit. And that's why I was the only one out of all the guys on the roast, because with the Mark Twain prize, he didn't even really know what that was. And I seen Chappelle get. I saw Eddie Murphy get. I'm like, yo, this is a dope thing. And they're going to have people speak for you. And I want to be one of those people. Next thing I know, all of us up there, I'm like, this. They didn't even ask to do this shit. I asked to do it.
Lauren LaRose
They don't even know where they at.
Naim Lynn
They don't even know where that is. So he not only are the comedians, but the other guys in the group. So I'm like. And I had to. I had to dial it back, like, all right, I'm getting upset over a moment to honor him. And I was wrong. I said, look, this is your moment. I'm looking for a moment within your moment. And that's not okay. So I conceded on that. But that's probably like the last argument we've had. We don't argue.
DJ Envy
And why wasn't the other members, the other guys on the roast? Cause you said you were the only one.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, just because.
DJ Envy
Was that a problem through the crew?
Naim Lynn
Like, nah, they all. Look, my guys, they wanted that for me. Soon as he decided he was doing it, he called me, said, look, I'm not having the plastic cup boys and I'm having you on it. And he knows that's what I do. Like, I'm capable of doing the roast stuff, the writing, all of that. So the Guys supported me. They were happy as hell for me.
Lauren LaRose
I love that for y'.
Naim Lynn
All.
Lauren LaRose
I love the synergy. And I think too, like, when people. One thing I will say, when people are giving Kevin Hart pushback about this roast, he says something here where he was talking about what he does for black other black comedians. And like, a lot of people learn who you guys are because of Kevin. And the fact that that hasn't stopped. Y' all been at this for years with each other and having those real ego based conversations sometimes, but getting through it.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
Lauren LaRose
And. But nobody talks about that.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, man. You know, when it's a hot topic and everybody's coming down on you, you forget about the bigger picture and all the things that he's done for black people, period. You know? But he's just. I think you gotta just lower your expectations out of him. He's just. He's an entertainer and he's a good guy. And I almost admire how he didn't come on here and throw Tony Hinchliffe under the bus.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cause he didn't wanna throw comedy under the bus. Right.
Naim Lynn
Because it's supposed to be, you know, freedom of speech. And he had the opportunity. Cause that's what Chelsea did. She threw him all the way under the bus. And Kev could have came on here and said, yeah, fuck him. You know, that was a terrible joke. But he didn't do that. And I respect him for that, even though he may have felt like that. But just like, I'm not gonna come on here and publicly trash this person that I had on my show.
Lauren LaRose
So I was going to ask you, would you have advised him not to do that? Because you talked about him being frustrated when he came here. Do you feel like he should have waited before he came here?
Naim Lynn
I didn't know he was gonna come in here and crash out like that.
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Naim Lynn
When I watched it, I was like, ooh, I know how he's feeling right now. Cause I know him personally and he's just like, he's in that space. I can't do shit right. You know what I mean? He's just like, yo, this was a roast. His energy on stage. Was him supposed to be being a good sport? He was being a good sport throughout it. And people compare him to Tom Brady. Tom Brady's not a comedian. Tom Brady stopped Jeff Ross in the middle of one joke. It was talking about a massage or some. I don't. I don't even know what the joke was, but that was serious. I don't.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, everybody reported like it was serious. I thought it was just on some, like a bit.
Naim Lynn
I thought, he's not being funny.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Naim Lynn
Don't say that again. Like, yeah, I didn't. I don't know if it was serious or not. I think they may have taken it out. If they. I think they took some stuff out and maybe they took out the stuff about his family and his kids. But
Charlamagne Tha God
did they cut jokes out of the Kevin Hart rose? Because that's what everybody's saying. They cut 18 jokes.
Naim Lynn
I don't know. They didn't cut any of my. I don't know. But I was just. I was looking at him. I was like, damn, my bro is. He's frustrated and this energy is just. It's probably not being received well, but he has good intention. He's a good dude, man. But sometimes you just gotta lower your expectations out of certain people. But, you know, also I understand how people feel too, though. It was a tasteless joke. Most importantly, it wasn't funny. And it was just like a moment for him to just say some controversial shit. And if that was the goal, it's working because we still talking about it three weeks later.
Charlamagne Tha God
You said Gretchen Whitmore owes you some money. Why?
Naim Lynn
So Gretchen Whitmore is the governor. Governor of Michigan. Yeah. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
She loves your. Your Shark Week.
Naim Lynn
Shark Week.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's actually a joke about periods, but.
Naim Lynn
Right. And that joke was old as hell. And she. But one thing, she. She gives me credit. She my name up every time. She's like, yeah, that N. Lynn. He said the Shark Week joke at the Kevin Hart show. And then she just made like a slogan out of it. She's selling hats.
Charlamagne Tha God
She wrote about it in her book. Really? That's why I read it. I read it in her book. Before we even interviewed her. I read it. She writes about it in her book.
Lauren LaRose
Does she mention him in the book?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. She was like, I went to go see Kevin Hart.
Lauren LaRose
That's what makes stuff you said you want.
Charlamagne Tha God
She had a great comedian that opened for him named Naim Lynn. And she told the whole. It's a whole damn near subchapter in her book.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, she was on a late night show. I think it was Kimmel or something. And she's also. Did she mention on here?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yep.
Naim Lynn
Yeah. Yeah. She keeps giving me credit for this joke, but no money.
Lauren LaRose
You getting money?
Charlamagne Tha God
You never met her. You never met her, though.
Naim Lynn
Nah, I've never met her.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's crazy.
Naim Lynn
I've never met her. But people speak highly of her, though. You call it Big Gretch or some shit.
Charlamagne Tha God
She said she tells that joke to herself before she gives speeches or debates. Cause she says it calms it down.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's crazy.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Naim Lynn
I helped a white woman.
Charlamagne Tha God
What's the biggest lesson you think you've learned from being around? I guess just success for so long, especially at that level.
Naim Lynn
Ah, man. Of course. Work ethic. I've learned what it takes to be a celebrity. He's so good at that. That's why, you know. And you've interviewed him a million times. And Kev is like, he's so polished. He doesn't really make these mistakes in interviews. And not that he made A mistake. It was just like, you know, he was just frustrated. Yeah. He was upset, and it was real. Yeah, yeah. You saw, like, just the rawness of it all. But I've learned that, you know, being a celebrity is extremely difficult. It takes a lot to get to where he is, and I just appreciate the journey of it all. Also, I've seen that black people sometimes, like, when they. When they first. If they, like, discover you or they feel like they discover you and then you're not theirs anymore, then sometimes they, like, they make turning back on you. Because before he was, like, a huge star. They was. You know, people always want to say, I knew him when he did this.
DJ Envy
Yeah, that's my guy.
Naim Lynn
Or, like, perfect analogy. A boxer comes up, right? And then he gets the belt, and he's like, oh, I was watching him since the Olympics, So since. Since his first fight. So once he really, really became this mainstream star, then people turn their back on you a little bit. But thankfully, he's a movie star, so he still does well with the comedy shows and everything. But the fan base that. The original fan base, they were also coming for us. They knew who we were. And I think these new people. Because when you come to the show. Y' all was at the show. You was at the show last tour. It's like you got kicked out. 74. You got kicked out.
DJ Envy
I got kicked out the years. Years ago.
Naim Lynn
Okay. It's like 75% white. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And those are the movie star fans. Black people. Like, man, I watch that shit on Netflix.
DJ Envy
I was gonna ask you, do you. Does it bother you that Kev cares so much? Cause it feels like he cares. Like, he cares what people say, he cares what the critics say. He cares what Instagram says. Does that bother you at all?
Naim Lynn
I think he tries to avoid it, but when the stuff, like, at his level, you gotta post Ghosts, you can't read the comments. You know, people waiting to destroy you. No matter. You could say, yo, it's a beautiful day. Somebody can say, fuck you.
DJ Envy
True.
Charlamagne Tha God
Fuck you and your day, right?
Naim Lynn
No matter what I say on here, somebody's gonna be in the comments saying negative shit, right? I don't think that it bothers him that much. I think when he tries to do something good and he shows that I can take a joke and whatever. Whatever he does that he thinks is a good thing and is met with negativity, I think that's what frustrates him. But the average everyday stuff is like, whatever that comes with it, you know, that's just Part of being an entertainer, the more famous you become, the more negativity you're gonna receive. You gotta just ignore it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Have you ever struggled with comparison? Not even just with Kev, but just in general, like, what other comedians
Naim Lynn
like from. From inside myself? Nah, I don't. I don't care, bro. I'm not a hater. I want to see everybody succeed. I'm more focused on what I got going on, because when you spend time and energy talking about other people, then that's taken away from what you're trying to do. You know, a lot of people try to get famous off of talking about somebody else. Like, what are you doing? What are you doing to get further in your career? So, nah, I don't compare myself with anybody. I'm my favorite comedian. You know, I think I'm great. It's just a matter of finding my tribe. You know, you see a lot of comedians right now, the Josh Johnson and Deon Cole, like, they found their tribe, so people are coming to see them. The problem is, the most shows I do, they're coming to see Kevin, and then I steal a few fans. But some people may not like my humor because it's completely different than his. So it's just. I'm in that space of, like, all right, what do I do to find my tribe? It's hard. I don't even have, like, a. A city that I'm from. I'm from New Jersey. I'm from Hillside, but.
Lauren LaRose
Oh, I thought you was from Philly.
Naim Lynn
Nah, see, most people thought you from Philly. I thought, yeah, no, I'm from Hillside, New Jersey. Born in. Born and raised. Went to high school there. And it's a small town right next to Newark. And I never wanted to claim Newark because I'm like, nobody's from Hillside, but I started doing comedy in Philly when I was in college. So they embraced me a little bit. I embraced them a little bit. But that ain't where I'm from. Like, I'm from New Jersey. I'm proud to be from New Jersey. So it's really about finding my tribe, my supporters, and they just, you know, tag along for my career.
Charlamagne Tha God
You ever did a show in Hillside?
Naim Lynn
Yeah, we did a show. We did a show at the high school one time. Me and my boy right here. He's a comedian. Jonathan Martin. We did a show at our high school years ago. It was a fun show.
Lauren LaRose
But what are you actively doing? Like, I mean, I see you're active on social media. How are you trying to find that Tribe. Because it is like, Kevin Hart is such a big star, and Plastic Cupboards has become kind of its own brand, right?
Naim Lynn
So now I'm just doing solo dates. I'm doing solo dates. Just testing. And I was doing Solo Date. I was a headliner before Plastic Cup Boys. But then, because we were getting so much attention and popularity from touring with Kevin, me and Spank decided, let's tour as Plastic Cup Boys. We can sell more tickets. And it was working at first, and then after a while, it's like, yo, I can do this shit by myself. You know, tickets ain't selling like that, so. But I'm just. I'm writing. That's what I'm doing.
Lauren LaRose
Got you.
Naim Lynn
Snoop Dogg dropped the gem on me, you know, he came to our show in Australia. He's like, yo, your pen is your gift. So I'm like, all right. I received that, Snoop. And I never wanted to just be a writer because I feel like I always want to be in front of the camera. I want to be an actor. So I feel like if you become a writer, then people only look at you as that. So, yeah, that's one of the things that's listed about me. I'm a writer. I've written this, I've written that. But I'm really locking into that, writing scripts, writing shows, stuff for me to star in. And I think that that's gonna help with my career.
DJ Envy
But do you like the grind work? Do you like the, like, you know, we all see Kevin start off right, but do you like the. Do you think you're too big to do some of the stuff that. The 11:00pm shows and pop in and pop out the 8:00 clock shows and do that type of stuff? Or you say, like, nah, I ain't doing that. I'm too big for that.
Naim Lynn
I love doing that. I do free shows all the time. When I come to the city, I go to the Cellar. I love. I love doing standup. It's now I do the small shows, the big shows or whatever, because I just want to work on my craft, and I gotta stay fresh because I feel like if I missed two weeks off stage and I'm rusty, you know, I'm in Sacramento next week at the. At the Punchline, so I'll probably go up tonight because I don't want that week in between. Why I didn't go on stage. I don't care about the money, bro. I care about it because I need it. But I'm more. I care more about the art of it all. And being a solid comedian, and I care about being a good actor. So I'm getting my reps in on the show, on Tyler Perry show, and I feel like I'm, like, right there at the cliff. I just need one. One little push, and I'm gonna be where I need to be.
Charlamagne Tha God
You, you were supposed to be a writer on the Rose, right? I heard that you were supposed to be a writer for the whole roast, but you said, nah, I just want to focus on my. My set.
Naim Lynn
No, I was right. On the Tom Brady roast. Okay. On this roast. No, I actually asked them if they wanted me to write because I had a Zoom call with the writers room, and they, like, I thought they were gonna ask about my jokes. They were asking about Kev. They realized they didn't really know shit about him. So I realized a couple minutes into the conversation, like, oh, y' all need me. Like, y' all trying to grill me about some stuff with Kevin. And then after I got off the call, I told my agent, I said, I got extra material. I wrote, like, 15 minutes worth of stuff. If they want it, they can pay me, and I'll give it to them. Crickets. Wow. I'm like, all right.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because it was that whole controversy there. Michael Shea said that there was no black writers, even though, I mean, I know it was black writers, but he posted that it was just, like, six white writers.
Naim Lynn
That Zoom call I had was 20 middle aged white people.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Naim Lynn
There was no black people in there. I think now, if you had your own writers, then you might have had somebody black. But as far as the Netflix writers, it was just. I thought they were executives. They're like, no, this is the writers. I'm like, oh, on the credits, it
Charlamagne Tha God
was mad black writers listed, though.
Lauren LaRose
Yeah. Like, explain that. He's like, Chris Princer, too, was saying
Naim Lynn
those were Kevin's writers. Yeah. As far as the. If you came on the show as one of the people in the dais, then you were able to bring writers in with you.
Lauren LaRose
Gotcha.
Naim Lynn
But as far as the Netflix writers, All white people.
Charlamagne Tha God
Boy, Naim gonna tell it, naim. You just see all you did was start ending it back up again.
Naim Lynn
But you can't blame nobody for that. That's Netflix.
Lauren LaRose
Who would have used the jokes from the Netflix writers? Cause the people sitting on the stage can come with their own writers, but if not, they depend on the Netflix writers.
Naim Lynn
Well, they kept trying to give me stuff. I was like, nah, I don't need y'. All. I wrote my own shit. Me and Big J I think are probably the only people that wrote their whole set. And that's it. The people that may have needed writers were Teyana Taylor.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Naim Lynn
Like, maybe she didn't use them because that shit was trash. I love Tiana. She's a great actress, and that's not gonna affect her career. But, geez, that.
DJ Envy
Who else you didn't like, man? Who else wasn't funny to you during that?
Naim Lynn
Listen, you don't have to. You don't have to do that to try to pull it out of me. I'll say it.
DJ Envy
Go ahead.
Naim Lynn
Go. The Williams sisters. I don't know what the fuck they were talking about. Talking in the mic.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. I didn't even see that. I checked out by then.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
Lauren LaRose
Who wrote for Tom Brady? He was good.
Naim Lynn
They probably wrote for him. Okay. Tom was. Tom was great. They probably wrote for him. And I was in and out of the Rock too.
Charlamagne Tha God
Pause. Like, it felt. It just felt like it was too long.
Naim Lynn
Like, pause again.
Charlamagne Tha God
Pause again. Yes. But, you know, you. You know,
DJ Envy
stop with your hands, man. We got what you said.
Charlamagne Tha God
It didn't feel like it was going on. It was dragging on a little bit.
Naim Lynn
I thought the Rock was incredible. It was like a wwe. Like, he really seized the moment and, yeah, he got a little weird with it.
DJ Envy
Sucked my nipples crazy.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, he got a little weird with it, but it was like, I like
Charlamagne Tha God
some of the weird. I like when he was like, I got a tattoo of Kevin Hart on my dick.
Naim Lynn
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
He was like, you wanna see it? And Kevin was like, no, no.
Naim Lynn
He was like, your wife.
Charlamagne Tha God
Your wife. Wanna see it? Yeah. Oh, she already saw it. That was funny.
Naim Lynn
I thought the Rock was great. It was like, really, like a. Just showed why he is who he is. Yeah, he got a little gay, but it was funny.
Charlamagne Tha God
I thought Regina was great.
Naim Lynn
Regina was hilarious. So. Okay, so Regina sat next to me. And people kept thinking that Regina was just not laughing at things, but I think she was just locked into this character the whole show.
Lauren LaRose
Okay.
Naim Lynn
Yeah. Like, she was the psychic.
Lauren LaRose
People thought she was so annoyed by the white people.
Naim Lynn
Nah, she was. She kept talking to me. I got off. She was like, that was great. You know, she kind of, like, was. She's like, that was great. And she was like, who you think is doing the worst? Right? So I'm like. I'm like, why? She was like, you'll see. I just need to know who's the worst. And then Teyana went up and I was like, she was the worst. And then she goes up there and she said, Your mother also told me that Teyana Taylor was going bomb tonight.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Naim Lynn
That's why she wanted. She was locked in. Yeah.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Naim Lynn
That's why she wanted to know who was the worst.
Lauren LaRose
He's so amazing.
Naim Lynn
Regina is the shit, man. She was great. I thought she was funny as hell, too. I thought Pete Davidson was funny.
Charlamagne Tha God
I thought Pete was funny.
Naim Lynn
Yeah. I thought most of the people did. Did great. And it's just not being talked about because we're talking about.
DJ Envy
That's one little.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. You had a moment where, you know, they do you. They said you caused them all to leave. That's what people in the room told me. They said you. You. The joke you made about Lamar Odom caused him to leave the room.
DJ Envy
Yeah, they said he walked out.
Naim Lynn
I don't know. I didn't see that. He was at the after party, though. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, okay. Yeah, that's what we were told. People that was in the room was
Lauren LaRose
like, he got up and left.
Charlamagne Tha God
He got up and left. I don't know how true that is.
DJ Envy
If he was upset, Lamar would have stepped to you, though. Lamar would have said something to you. If he was upset, I think.
Naim Lynn
What are you gonna say? He said the. In this. In the documentary, you smoking crack. So what? I just say what you said. I know that because you said it. What are you mad about?
Charlamagne Tha God
And there was that. I saw one headline that said, lamar Odom looks visibly annoyed. His comic makes brutal joke. They flashed the camera Spence on Netflix. That was on mirror.
Naim Lynn
What I heard is he mouthed, what did he say? Like, he didn't really hear what I said, but I don't. I don't know. I don't care.
Charlamagne Tha God
It was a joke about the rock,
Naim Lynn
and I said, I don't want no smoke with rock. That's what almost killed Lamar Odom.
DJ Envy
That was clever. That was clever.
Naim Lynn
I like that. Yeah, I'm a fan. I'm a Lakers fan. So I just made a joke off of something that you gave to the world.
Charlamagne Tha God
So at the after party, he spoke to you or.
Naim Lynn
Nah,
Charlamagne Tha God
them after party's gotta be awkward after y' all done arrested all these people.
Naim Lynn
I don't know if he saw me. He had on shades. I saw him walking through, you know, the slow bop, and I just like, oh, there's Lamar Odom. If he would have said something, what is he gonna say? I don't appreciate that shit. You said that. I said, what are we talking about?
Charlamagne Tha God
Was there any joke you was nervous to tell in those moments?
Naim Lynn
Um, if anything, the Chappelle joke Cause only. Only because he wasn't out there. Like, I wanted him to see that shit. I want him to be there and be like, oh, that was, you know, that was good, or whatever. But I heard that he wasn't mad about the joke. He was mad cause I said the special wasn't funny.
Lauren LaRose
That's the part too that I thought that would get you a little like, not conversation a bit.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's the worst thing you could say to a comedian.
Naim Lynn
Yeah. But once again, it was ingest. I think that his special was amazing. I'm a fan.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't believe that.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, no, I thought it was good,
Lauren LaRose
but you felt like. I don't.
DJ Envy
You.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't. You're not a liar. You're not gonna just say something like that.
Naim Lynn
I don't.
Charlamagne Tha God
Right.
Naim Lynn
I'm not a liar. So why would I say that if I don't think it was good?
Lauren LaRose
Because even if it's punching up, as a comedian, you know, like, Dave Chappelle is one of the best. Right. And you're saying you don't even be telling jokes where basically where you go, where's Dave Chappelle?
Naim Lynn
I said, what I said was, I saw your last special. Some jokes would have been nice. And it's because there was a lot of. It was speechy.
Charlamagne Tha God
You were talking.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, yeah. But it was still engaging. I watched the whole thing. It's hard to watch somebody special, top to bottom. Like, you know, I think special should be back in the half hour range because that, our shit is like, yo, you got so many distractions. You on your phone, you know, you're doing this, doing that. I think special should be a half hour. But Dave, I love Dave Chappelle. He's my favorite comedian, hands down. Him, then Kev. No, I'm sorry. Me, Chappelle, then Kev.
Charlamagne Tha God
What's something at 25 you wanted that you don't even care about no more? You don't even care about having today
Naim Lynn
whole bunch of pussy. I mean, is. Is that not real?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, yes, absolutely. I was taking it more on a professional level, but that's a good.
Lauren LaRose
Did you get all of it that you wanted or are you just more disciplined? Like, what?
Naim Lynn
Yeah, man. Yeah, I had my run. I had my run. You know, I still, I still, like. I'm not like, I don't like men or anything now. I still like coaching.
Lauren LaRose
Good to know.
Naim Lynn
But no, you got to put that out there. You know, people. People think things. But at 25, I was a starving artist. I wanted a car, a home Money, the things that I eventually got. But, nah, that's about it. I can't think of anything else.
Charlamagne Tha God
Was the. Was the rose worth it in its totality?
Naim Lynn
For me, just.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, for you. But also, I guess, for the. For the. For the brand of Kevin as well, because that still impacts you in a way.
Naim Lynn
Yeah, I guess it remains to be seen. But he said he got a lot of good things in the works, so would they have happened without the roast? I'm sure the backlash. The good thing about social media is something else is going to happen tomorrow.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, you on Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Well,
Naim Lynn
but, you know, things are going to happen and people will forget about that. But for me, yeah, it was worth it. This is my fifth time up here, and every time I've come up here, I really. It was just conversation. This is the first time I came up here and had something to actually talk about that was current. So, yeah, it's beneficial to me. I've sold some tickets. After this, I'll sell a few more tickets. And, yeah, it was a plus.
DJ Envy
All right, well, we appreciate you for joining us, brother.
Charlamagne Tha God
Naim Lin.
DJ Envy
Naim Lin. You can check them on tour. How can they follow you?
Charlamagne Tha God
Naim, I do have one last question. I wanna end with. I do. Let's just say 15 years from now, right? When people talk about this era of comedy, what do you hope they say about Naim Lynn? That has nothing to do with Kevin
Lauren LaRose
Hart
Naim Lynn
as a comedian or as a person comedian? As a comedian, like, well, he didn't
Charlamagne Tha God
want pussy after 25.
Naim Lynn
I think in 15 years, people would just be like, yo, I always wanted to be a comedian's comedian. The person that when I get on stage, the other comics stop what they're doing to see what I have to say now. And I feel like I've achieved that, and I just want to be just respected over and over again. The most love that I got off of this roast was from the other comics. Even comics that don't even really like each other, they're like, yo, you fucking killed that shit. So I appreciate my peers and their opinion. So in 15 years from now, I want people to be like, yo, he holds his own. I don't really care about somebody saying I was the funniest of the group or anything like that. I don't care. That's all subjective. But, like, yo, he's a headliner within his own right. He holds his own. We saw where he came from. At this point, 15 years later, he's doing all the things that he wanted to do. And I respect his grind. That's it. Because I've never tried to just live off of Kevin, what he has going on. I've always simultaneously been working on my own career, right? So. And the people know that, especially the other comedians. So when they look back, I'm like, yo, he did it. That's what I want to happen 15 years from now. Wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, and also, Naim is our first guest on Netflix. Netflix. You know, we start live on Netflix today.
DJ Envy
Today you're our first live guest on Netflix.
Charlamagne Tha God
Coming on Netflix. On Netflix for Tony, Hank, Cliff.
DJ Envy
That's right.
Charlamagne Tha God
And the writers and the white writers
DJ Envy
with no black people in it. But that's all good.
Lauren LaRose
See, he wanted them people that support you till you get to the place and then boom. Look, now all of the headlines always support Naim. It was a joke.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, okay.
Naim Lynn
Yeah. Nah, they're my brothers. But yeah, I mean, that's what's up. I didn't know that. So Gretchen owes me a check. And now y' all owe me a check.
DJ Envy
Naeem Lynn, ladies and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Naim Lynn
Hold up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.
Naim Lynn
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Podcast: The Breakfast Club – The Black Effect Podcast Network/iHeartPodcasts
Air Date: June 1, 2026
In this in-depth episode, comedians Naim Lynn sits down with the Breakfast Club hosts – DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, and Lauren LaRose – to unpack the now-notorious Kevin Hart Netflix roast and its aftermath. They tackle the praise and backlash, dissect the role of Black comedians in Hollywood, and engage honestly about the disappointment, camaraderie, and controversy swirling around the event, with Naim injecting personal reflections on comedy, authenticity, and ambition.
Preparation & Boundaries:
“Nah, nah. Everything I did was pretty much like what you saw. I had to take out a couple things because of time, but it was nothing that was too far. I wasn't gonna throw my man under the bus like that.” – Naim ([03:16])
Longtime Relationship with Kevin Hart:
“I just focus on what he has done for me instead of what he hasn’t. …You got to get it yourself, too.” – Naim ([03:37])
“You always were 100% honest about everything.” – Charlamagne
“There are some yes men, but I'm definitely not one of them.” – Naim
The Tony Hinchcliffe Joke:
“More than being offensive, it was just corny.” – Naim
“That’s not racist humor. That is trying to make a joke of somebody’s violent, tragic death at the hands of the police.” – Charlamagne ([08:00])
“Kevin is getting more negative energy than the person that said it.” – Naim ([08:00])
Public Outrage, Apology Demands, and Double Standards:
“He’s tired of being bullied into these apologies.” – Naim ([08:35])
Cheryl Underwood’s Triumph:
“She came in and handled that for everybody.” – Naim ([06:17])
“She now walks away with a special.” – Naim ([06:17])
Naim’s Own Set & New Opportunities:
“There was so much other stuff going on that took away from that moment for me.” – Naim ([11:31])
Chappelle Joke Context:
“If you gonna come for somebody, come for the king. But I'm a fan. It was really no disrespect.” – Naim ([13:43])
Writing and Edits:
Comedy’s Social Role:
“They want Kev to be Dick Gregory...but he's not that.” – Naim ([19:10])
“For me, being Black. Being a comedian is just what I do.” – Naim ([20:30])
Lack of Black Writers:
Who Used Writers & Who Didn’t:
Finding His Own Lane:
Small Clubs vs. Big Tours:
Respect from Peers:
“A roast is a roast, you know, people are going to say some off color things. … But everybody's overshadowing the good stuff about the roast because of the couple of negative things that were said.” – Naim ([04:46])
On adapting to success:
“I've learned what it takes to be a celebrity. … Being a celebrity is extremely difficult. It takes a lot to get to where he [Kevin Hart] is, and I just appreciate the journey of it all.” – Naim ([34:29])
On Chappelle:
“He doesn't have any TV shows; everything he does is just stand up. He's a free black man, and he can get on stage and say whatever he wants to say. And people hold on to every word.” – Naim ([16:12])
On the ideal legacy:
“I always wanted to be a comedian’s comedian. … In 15 years from now, I want people to be like, ‘Yo, he holds his own. He did it.’” – Naim ([52:21])
The conversation is candid, humorous, and, at times, reflective, maintaining a comic’s frankness while delving into serious issues around race, fame, cancel culture, and community. Naim Lynn speaks with humility about his position alongside Kevin Hart, opting for gratitude, self-determination, and authenticity. The hosts push for accountability and insight but keep things light and relatable, peppering the discussion with inside jokes and laughter.
For listeners:
This episode offers not just a peek behind the curtain of the Kevin Hart roast, but also a broader meditation on the pressures, pitfalls, and occasional payoffs of being Black and funny in America’s comedy spotlight. It highlights why context, respect, and solidarity matter as much on stage as off.