INTERVIEW: Nate Jackson Talks Kevin Hart Roast, Comedy Critics, Dave Chappelle, Comedy Show At Brooklyn Improv

Summary

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The Breakfast Club – INTERVIEW: Nate Jackson Talks Kevin Hart Roast, Comedy Critics, Dave Chappelle, Comedy Show At Brooklyn Improv

Date: May 22, 2026
Podcast: The Breakfast Club (The Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God, DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Lauren LaRosa
Guest: Nate Jackson

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Episode Overview

This episode features comedian Nate Jackson, who joins The Breakfast Club crew to discuss his sold-out shows at the Brooklyn Improv, his journey through the comedy world, industry criticism, navigating viral fame, the recent Kevin Hart Netflix roast, evolving industry gatekeeping, cancel culture, and his relationship with comedy legends like Dave Chappelle. The conversation is lively, candid, and packed with stories and insights into both the struggles and successes of carving out a career in comedy today.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nate Jackson’s Current Success and Mindset

• Nate’s Happiness & Recent Accomplishments
  • Nate reflects on being in a great place both professionally and personally after headlining sold-out shows at the Brooklyn Improv.
    • “I gotta be the happiest comic on earth right now as we speak.” (03:55, Nate Jackson)
  • He emphasizes the joy of spending extended time in New York, soaking up the culture:
    • “For me to be like, I'm about to be in Brooklyn for 15 days. … You just get exposed to more culture.” (06:05–06:16, Nate Jackson)
• Staying Humble About Success
  • Nate jokes about not wanting to “get his money loud”, preferring to keep a low profile financially.
    • “I like to get my money qu[iet]. This a write off. Internal Revenue Service. I'm not getting no break.” (03:19, Nate Jackson)

2. Industry Recognition and Building an Audience

• Hollywood’s Attention
  • Nate discusses how Hollywood is only recently taking notice, largely due to his independent grind and massive online following.
    • “I came up without any co-signs from Hollywood. Do you feel like they're buying in now?” (08:38, Charlamagne Tha God)
    • “All more than one thing can be true at once. … Maybe it’s so late. We're already going direct.” (08:55, Nate Jackson)
  • He emphasizes the value networks are finally seeing in his audience:
    • “If I got 7 million, 8 million followers ... you just had a hell of an opening weekend just off me.” (09:06, Nate Jackson)
• Viral Fame and Direct Connection
  • He contrasts his earlier days hustling for recognition with now being called out and approached directly at events:
    • “People calling your name. They know you. They see you. People love Nate Jackson. … I hadn’t seen that love before.” (10:23–10:31, Lauren LaRosa & Nate Jackson)

3. The Kevin Hart Netflix Roast: Roasts, Limits, and Standout Moments

• Approach to Roasting — No Sensitivity Allowed
  • “I'm a comic first. Like, you got to separate your sensibility. Like, don't be sensitive at all.” (11:03, Nate Jackson)
• Roast Highlights and Critiques
  • Tony Hinchcliffe stood out with top-tier jokes—until an edgy George Floyd joke derailed the mood.
    • “He had five times more jokes than anyone. … But his ending was wild. And it just made everybody cringe.” (11:45, Nate Jackson; 13:39, Lauren LaRosa)
  • The discomfort with over-the-line jokes:
    • “There's no humor in there to whip it into the back half of a metaphor ... that was unnecessary.” (12:28, Nate Jackson)
  • The unique energy of comedy’s past raised during the roast:
    • “Nothing beats black Def Comedy Jam era energy. … if you come from that style of comedy, that's top tier.” (14:07, Charlamagne Tha God)
  • Cheryl Underwood’s performance was praised as a breath of fresh air and a return to classic roast energy.

4. Women and Diversity in Roasting

• Other Women Who Could Shine
  • Nate lists comics like Sommore, Adele Givens, Leslie Jones, Coco Brown, and Lauren LaRosa herself as women who could have dominated at the roast.
    • “I think some more would have hit that … Adele Givens, Ms. Laura Leslie Jones would have ate in that spot. Coco Brown would have flipped the entire building on its back.” (16:13–16:16, Nate Jackson)
• Roast as Comedy’s Super Bowl
  • The event was seen as a pinnacle for comedians—a cultural Super Bowl.
    • “That was our Super Bowl. … I thought it was fun, but yeah, I think people just have to separate, like, jokes from, like, true sentiment.” (17:19, Lauren LaRosa & Nate Jackson)

5. Changes in Comedy—From Industry Gatekeeping to Social Media

• Internet’s Impact on Gatekeepers
  • While the internet allows direct audience building, traditional industry players (like agencies) still play a vital role in booking and tour logistics.
    • “You still need an agency… CAA calls on your behalf … their cumulative strength by having 50 comics…” (37:53, Nate Jackson)
    • “As far as a gatekeeper in, like, regards to getting exposure. Yeah [they’re less important]. … Now you go, ‘go to my page.’ People go. They see a blue check. Oh, you legit.” (38:53–39:25, Nate Jackson)
• Social Media Comedians vs. Stand-Up Acumen
  • “You can't skip any of this. … You're killing it online. But go to this 5 or do your 10 or … Let me see your hour.” (18:35, Nate Jackson)
  • “Social media makes everybody think they're funny. But … a real comedian knows how to get up on that stage and make everybody laugh.” (24:22–24:26, Charlamagne Tha God)
• Crowd Work and New Material
  • Nate prefers developing new material organically, placing new jokes between proven bits (“Oreo” structure), and isn’t worried about audience phones recording unpolished material.
    • “I'm encouraging it… If there's 200 [phones], it's 200 [free posts].” (40:43, Nate Jackson)
    • “If I was … rounding third base on the material … I may then get protective to be like, nah. Cause y’ all leak some. … But right now… I'm having fun on stage.” (41:42, Nate Jackson)

6. Cancel Culture & Resilience in Comedy

• How 'Cancellation' Works
  • “I really do think being canceled, you have to accept that and be like, I'm canceled.” (27:57, Nate Jackson)
  • “Shane Gillis … he went back to the grind so he don't give a fuck. Shane could fall off tomorrow and still be good because he got a huge core fan base that's gonna keep him rich.” (28:07, Charlamagne Tha God)
• Racial Double Standards in Cancellation
  • Lauren LaRosa notes white comics seem to bounce back more easily than black comics.
    • “These people are white as fuck, too. … Their cancellation goes to a certain point. … Nobody's taking shit from them.” (29:12, Lauren LaRosa)
• Strategy: Don’t Act Cancelled
  • “If you go, look, I'm gonna still do my shows. It is what it is. … You may have just knocked me down from 20,000 seaters to 10,000 seaters. But, like, I'm funny, and I got a chance to say my side.” (28:51, Nate Jackson)

7. Insider Comedy: Friendship, Trust, and Industry Dynamics

• Dealing With “Dick Riding” (Industry Bandwagoning)
  • Once a comedian gets hot, everybody wants to be part of their circle.
    • “Once you create your own heat, the moths will be attracted to the flay.” (31:15, Charlamagne Tha God)
    • “I just think people gravitate towards heat like moths to a flame.” (30:59, Nate Jackson)
• Navigating Genuine vs. Opportunistic Relationships
  • “How do you tell the difference between genuine love and people who just want access to you nowadays? … You need that grim reaper on your team … you start to see it after person six, especially women are easy to see.” (33:11–33:19, Nate Jackson)

8. Dave Chappelle Stories & Comic Camaraderie

• The Legendary Cigarette Story
  • Hilarious story of Dave Chappelle running out of cigarettes during a marathon set—with Nate there to provide some, leading to his nickname “Cigarette Nigga.”
    • “He did six hours and, like, 38 minutes at the Laugh Factory. … He was like, I'm out of cigarettes. … I smoked Newports, and they didn't have any … Spirit somethings. And Dave was literally like, who has American spirits? … And then he walked off. … He was like, thank you very much, Cigarette Nigga.” (35:27–36:03, Nate Jackson)
• Collaboration and Mutual Support Among Comics
  • Describes his rapport with established comics and recent mutual support; Chappelle inviting Nate to his club reciprocally.
    • “He said, you're gonna come do my club? … I will move to Yellow Springs just so you'll go to Tacoma. … That's massive.” (36:28–37:16, Nate Jackson)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Success Coming at the Right Time:
  “I’m so happy… all my storylines are just, like, coming together and making sense.” (04:21–04:36, Nate Jackson)

• On Industry ‘Gatekeeping’:
  “As far as a gatekeeper in, like, regards to getting exposure … you don't need to send set after set after set to whoever is the gatekeeper for the Tonight show anymore.” (39:10, Nate Jackson)

• On Social Media versus Stage:
  “Social media makes everybody think they're funny. But … a real comedian knows how to get up on that stage and make everybody laugh.” (24:22, Charlamagne Tha God)

• On Handling Audience Recordings:
  “I'm encouraging it… If there's 200 [phones], it's 200 [free posts].” (40:43, Nate Jackson)

• On Cancel Culture:
  “You have to accept [being] canceled. If you go, look, I'm gonna still do my shows. … You may have just knocked me down from 20,000 seaters to 10,000 seaters. But, like, I'm funny, and I got a chance to say my side.” (28:51, Nate Jackson)

• On Dave Chappelle Taking Nearly a Pack of Nate’s Cigarettes:
  “He took, like, nine … Like, he took a disrespectful amount of cigarettes … He was like, thank you very much, Cigarette Nigga. And then he walked off.” (36:03, Nate Jackson)

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Highlighted Timestamps

• 03:55 – Nate on being the “happiest comic on earth right now"
• 06:05 – On being in Brooklyn for 15 days and soaking up the culture
• 08:38 – Does Hollywood finally ‘buy in’ to Nate’s brand?
• 11:03 – On separating sensitivity from comedy at roasts
• 13:39 – The George Floyd joke that “made everybody cringe”
• 14:07 – Charlamagne on the greatness of Def Comedy Jam era
• 18:35 – What young comedians miss about translating from viral to stage
• 24:22 – The difference between online and true stage comedy
• 27:57 – Reflections on cancel culture and not accepting cancellation
• 33:11 – On filtering genuine love versus opportunistic industry connections
• 35:27–36:03 – Dave Chappelle’s marathon set and the "Cigarette Nigga" story
• 37:53 – Internet’s impact on traditional comedy gatekeepers
• 40:43 – Nate's take on audience phones and content sharing

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Final Notes

Nate Jackson’s interview is an insightful, funny, and heartening look at the shifting landscape of comedy. He reflects openly about hard work, the long way up, staying grounded among success, and the importance of being “bonafide” on stage—not just online. The episode offers laugh-out-loud anecdotes about working with Dave Chappelle, biting but fair observations on cancel culture and audience sensitivity, and wise advice for comedians navigating today's complex stand-up world.

Find Nate Jackson:

• SuperFunnyComedyClub.com
• NateJacksonComedy.com

Catch Nate’s Brooklyn Improv shows and look out for his “Super Funny Comedy Jam” TV project soon!

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Transcript

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed.

[DJ Envy]

He's performing at the Brooklyn improv on the 23rd. Ladies and gentlemen, comedian Nate Jackson.

[Nate Jackson]

Welcome, brother. What's up, y'? All?

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Too much money, man.

[DJ Envy]

A lot of money.

[Nate Jackson]

What are you looking at that's making you talk like that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You getting some money, man? I hear your name everywhere.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Amazing, amazing rooms.

[Nate Jackson]

I don't like that. I don't like that. That's not how I like to get my money. I don't like to get my money Loud. I like to be qu. This a write off. Internal Revenue Service. I'm not getting no break.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me rephrase, man. Nate, you out here making moves, man.

[Nate Jackson]

There you go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you, though, man?

[Nate Jackson]

Man, things are good. And I'm like, really good. Like, really good. Like, I'm really good. Like, I've had people tell me, like, I'd be on shows complaining and stuff, and that was where I was at. I'm like this. I'm not complaining. This is my truth right now. I am one of the. I gotta be the happiest comic in on earth right now as we speak.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why? Why?

[Nate Jackson]

Just too many, like, too many, like, storylines.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Too much money, too.

[Cal Penn]

I'm getting too.

[Nate Jackson]

No, too many. Too many story lines are all just, like, coming together and making sense. Like, you saw that interaction right there. Like, yeah, Byron. I was like, oh, man, you're so. You're so fun.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm like, yeah, he did.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. I mean, but like, the week of Netflix is a joke. Like, a lot of stuff came to its own culmination. Like, probably like 19 different things that were just like, I wonder what. I think. I want, like, all the answers. I'm so happy we got so Brooklyn Improv. I've never been big on New York because I don't like. It's so many people Here. And I think that's an acquired taste. It's a lot, it's a lot of people here, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, absolutely.

[Nate Jackson]

You're always like, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. You know, I mean like they don't

[Lauren LaRosa]

say excuse me, excuse me.

[Nate Jackson]

No, they stand on you like you're like, it's an international trip. I'm like, y' all don't see me and they don't. There's too many people. But I'm starting to like, I look, I kind of get like, I get it. Like I wouldn't checked out the seller and all. So I didn't. I'm not just doing book and improv for one week. I have two back to back weekends.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, wow.

[Nate Jackson]

And so we've already sold out seven shows. Was last weekend. And then we're going into the next weekend with. I think it might already be a wrap. But I've been having fun out there. It's a nice club.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I love it.

[Nate Jackson]

And so I mean even that like the opportunity to not headline one weekend, but to just lock in. That's different. Yeah, yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm. Yeah, yeah. Embracing all that, you know, I mean, and I, I had been, I went from, you know, hard working west coast comic to like finding some success and traction on the Internet to basically theaters, which is you got one, you do one night and then you gone. You don't get to eat nothing, meet nobody, see the city or not. So for me to be like, I'm about to be in Brooklyn for 15 days.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

When I get home, I'm have an accent. We're eating everywhere, checking out everything, seeing stuff. So you really get like, you just get exposed to more culture and stuff. So I'm, I'm in a very happy, very happy place right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's your motivation? Is it just to be better than Gary Owen at everything or.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Nate Jackson]

I love it because I, I on the way over was like, wow. I wonder how long before he brings up Gary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Four minutes.

[DJ Envy]

Four minutes.

[Nate Jackson]

I don't, I don't even think that. No, I'm not motivated by being better than the next person. Gary had a beautiful wedding. I thought you were gonna be there. Out in Texas.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought he was gonna be there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's not his real friend. Charlemagne's not Gary's girlfriend.

[Nate Jackson]

I think we, I think that might be like the angle.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

To just like be cool but not too close.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really.

[Nate Jackson]

I win. I have. But you wouldn't know cuz they had it around you in pictures. So I went out there. No, but I. I. He had. He had. He had a beautiful wedding. Bri looked amazing. The whole family was there and all that, so that's dope. I'm proud of Gary.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's doing great. That's amazing.

[Nate Jackson]

That's. That's going to be.

[DJ Envy]

That's it. Nothing that was in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What photo did you take that you were edited out of or which one did they not post of you that you were looking forward to?

[Nate Jackson]

I was at the wedding.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

You want to see the room? We see no pictures.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He was there.

[DJ Envy]

We seen the cast. We ain't seen no pictures of you.

[Nate Jackson]

Keep looking. They cut people off each side.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Nate Jackson]

It doesn't matter, though. I didn't go for to be seen.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Nate Jackson]

I went to just be like, all right, Gary's in love. Like, I feel like there's, like, the game and then there's like, this is our personal life. And so I went. I was a part of that. I was like, that's what this is going to be. The fact that People magazine was snapping pictures was an afterthought till I start seeing. I was like, oh, yeah, the cast really is here.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. When he told us about it, I thought he was joking. Like, he was really going to have the cast of Think like Groomsmen.

[Nate Jackson]

It was. It was the hottest wedding I've ever been to in my life, though.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What do you mean? Hot?

[Nate Jackson]

They were turning the air off.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, wow.

[Nate Jackson]

Gary was literally, like, dripping wet. They were, like, trying to keep him dry, and it was. It was sweltering. Luna was like, man, God damn, it was so hot. It was so hot. I was like, gary, you guys going to hell for your honeymoon? Why is it so hot?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where was it again?

[Nate Jackson]

Texas. We were in Dallas.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So why would they turn the air off?

[Nate Jackson]

Got me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll be honest with you. I don't give a damn about this wedding. I wasn't invited to it. None of this.

It was super viral.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He invited you.

[Nate Jackson]

You would have had a good time. Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He invited you when he came up here to do the interview.

[DJ Envy]

When he talked about it, that wasn't a real invite. No, that was like, I got to tell you about the wedding, but I invite you. Like, a real invite comes with invitation Crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, yeah. Well, he didn't give him an invitation, but he did tell. He did tell Charlamagne he wanted him.

[DJ Envy]

I bet Nate got an invitation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anyway, back to Comedians with Netflix Specials. Wow. W. Wow, wow, wow. I feel like Hollywood is. Is. Is kind of co Signing you now. Because. Because you came up without any co signs from Hollywood. Do you feel like they're buying in now? It doesn't matter.

[Nate Jackson]

All more than one thing can be true at once. Yes. Like, there can be a part of Hollywood that is rocking with me that's like, oh, I get it. And he translates. And there can be a part that's like, we just don't. And then at the same time, it's like, who doesn't and who does? Maybe so late. It's like, we already are going direct. So I think that. I think that. And that's the next. The next level of whatever is when somebody connects all the dots and goes, let's harness all of this that he built on his own and put that into this. Right. Like, if I got 7 million, 8 million followers world, like, on all my stuff, and if they all go watch whatever movie I'm in, you just had a hell of an opening weekend just off me. And I don't even got to be the main character. So when they connect those dots, I think that that's the thing. Yeah. I mean, I have some stuff coming out where it's going to put a lot of perspective. Like, I did Bad Monkey season two, and I was supposed to only get two episodes, ended up getting 10. And I'm legit in scenes almost the entire season with John Malkovich. We're, like, friends now. And. And I had to. I had to. That's Malkovich. I'm across a coffee table from him, having to hold my own. So when that comes out, it's going to be fantastic where people can be like, oh, he got chops. And so, again, that, like, this past week of Netflix is a joke. Like, I. I used to be in LA going to stuff, and my name ain't on the list. I'm like. I'm like, jess, Jess. Hey, yo. I don't know him right now, son.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Shut up.

[Nate Jackson]

But that's. You know how that is now. It's like, yeah, I'm. I'm good. Everywhere. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, okay. Finally.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Because I was there at the roast on the red card, people calling your name. They know you. They see you. People love Nate Jackson.

[Nate Jackson]

And that's. I hadn't seen that love before.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

And I don't know what changed.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know if what turned, what changed, what made me.

[Nate Jackson]

I think they're just like, we ain't stopping him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right?

[Nate Jackson]

You think so? Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And like Charlamagne said when you came in, like, your name is not only everywhere, but People are seeing you everywhere now. You know what I mean?

[Nate Jackson]

That's why. And I can only be where I'm at. And don't nobody tell you where they saw you. Don't nobody tell you where they saw you. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what happens to the room when I walk in. I walked in it. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How was the roast?

[Nate Jackson]

I thought.

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[Nate Jackson]

I had a ball, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Anything uncomfortable because, you know, everybody, of

[Nate Jackson]

course, talked the moment I'm a comic first. Like, you got to separate your sensibility. Like, don't be sensitive at all. You already know going into a rose, someone's going to. It is someone's responsibility to be wild as hell.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

If not everybody on the day is like, everyone should be going nuts. Like, if you look at the history of roast and some of the stuff that was. Look up what Richard Pryor said about Paul Mooney at his birthday roast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know the difference between that?

[Nate Jackson]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know the difference. They was close. They was actual friends. Like.

[Nate Jackson]

Like, I'll give you that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Whatever you say amongst friends is one thing, but I think that when you bring in, like, the George Floyd's of it all.

[Nate Jackson]

No, so I. I was. What I was saying outside, I literally was like, you know what? Tony Hinter had the best roast out of everybody.

[DJ Envy]

He was.

[Nate Jackson]

He had five times more jokes than anyone. He had way more laughs per minute. He was on fire. He was killing everybody in the crowd. Not just like, one side was laughing, you know, because it was. You could see it was not bipartisan. And then when he got up, like, he just started. You saw him win by the third or fourth. Like, oh, he's on fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

His last joke I turned to Dion Cole was like. I mean, he had to do that, man. Until that. Because my thing, to me, personally, I'll write whatever. Like, my pen is strong enough to be like, let's do it. But I only want to talk about people who are there alive that are. You know what I'm saying? And I get that it was so relevant that. That it's in the Zeitgeist. Like, it's. It's a part of the culture. Like, the George Floyd thing should have shaken the world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

You know, So I get it. But I don't, like, just. There's no humor in there to whip it into the back half of a metaphor to just say that you're funny. I was like, that was unnecessary.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

But I just thought. I was like, I Said, what? What's it? Stephen Jackson? Yeah. I said, yeah, you got to see him. I said. I was like, yeah, he ain't gonna take that joke very light.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jeff told me Matt Bonds was there. So imagine if Stephen was in that crowd. But that's what I'm saying. Imagine if somebody that loves George Floyd on that level is in that crowd. You free to say the joke, but, boy, you got to deal with the consequences.

[Nate Jackson]

Okay? You got freedom of speech.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Nate Jackson]

But people got freedom of bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. You know what I'm saying? Say what you want. Jail don't scare everybody. No, you know what I'm saying? Something like, I go right back. That's the person who's gonna do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And some people do their jail math. They're like, okay, how much does this right cost me? Exactly how much time I'm gonna do for this?

[DJ Envy]

It's worth it.

[Nate Jackson]

What's a body shot going? Run me. What's a chin shot going?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, that's why the highlight of the night. The highlight of the night for me was Cheryl Cat. And it was Tony until he said the joke that I said that. Hey, I was like, yo, he was going. Going wasn't coming up. He was like, yo, it was crazy, but his ending was wild. And it just made me, like, it made everybody cringe, you know, for the

[Nate Jackson]

most part, it was like a sailboat with hella wind. And then that last one was like, oh, they ain't gonna make it short.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn.

[Nate Jackson]

Like, they.

[DJ Envy]

He had.

[Nate Jackson]

And then Naeem Lin had an amazing. And he kind of set the tone because he was. He was early on.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

And he was on fire. And then, like. But Cheryl, again, everyone. Everyone watching was, like, crazy. She was. She was. You got to, like, exhale. Like, finally, somebody. What were we doing? Yeah, because Kevin was laughing, and Cheryl was like, what's. Like, at this mic, I don't feel

[Charlamagne Tha God]

like nothing beats black Def Comedy Jam era energy. If you come from that era where you was in the Def Comedy Jam, like the Cats, the Cheryls, if you come from that style of comedy, that's top tier to me, period.

[Nate Jackson]

I actually. I. So. Because we haven't had a show like that in, like, 20 years. I put my own bread up and shot a show called the Super Funny Comedy Jam at my club. We got 54 comics. Like, I'm in. We're in post right now on it, so we're gonna put that out. I spent.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I spent all up and coming or.

[Nate Jackson]

No, I mean, I. I can Run names. I don't mind that at all. Tony Roberts got a standing ovation. Chris C.P. powell got a standing ovation. Tony Baker is on that thing. Then there's a bunch of new faces that are like, what, Reg Thomas that just came. Came down the line on Kevin Hart's funny af. Just Niche Kelly, Kelsima Franklin. Who else was there? It's. It's. I'm telling you, we had 54 comments. Black Ron. We had voices from all over America. I flew everybody up to Tacoma and we shot it with the same team that shot my Netflix special. So it looks amazing, sounds amazing. It's funny. It's fast moving. I showed a couple people like, this looks like tv. I'm like, what did you think we were doing? That's gonna come out soon.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What are some of the other women that you thought would have killed at the roast, not just Cheryl? Cause we just had Cheryl sitting up there. But Tiffany ain't come out swinging. I mean, she ain't say nothing. She ain't get a chance to go up there in Rose, but just up there to go after the follow the Tony Radcliffe and the J's and, you know, Shane Gillis's.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So I mean, my bad. What?

[Nate Jackson]

I call him Radcliffe.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, my bad.

[Nate Jackson]

Like Daniel Radcliffe.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No talk.

[Nate Jackson]

I understand the mix up, but I'm saying, like, what I said out there, that I'll say again. And I want to make sure I don't miss my words, because I am. I like, I love what Cheryl did.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Fan of Cheryl for sure. I want to put a pin in that. Cheryl's awesome. Bam. Got that in that spot, though. Who else could have probably hit a home run, in my opinion? I think some more would have hit that and, you know, I mean, at least a triple.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Adele Givens.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yep.

[Nate Jackson]

Ms. Laura Leslie Jones would have ate in that spot. Coco Brown would have flipped the entire building on its back. You would have cooked in that spot.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying, Chef?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. In the little chocolate. You had a little. You had a. Did you see what you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I did. On the red on the carpet.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. But some. She had like, some little. What were them shoes?

[Lauren LaRosa]

They were. Oh, my God.

[Nate Jackson]

Some were gold on the end.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were nice.

[Nate Jackson]

The ones from Leprechaun. Those are cold. No, I don't want to say that to my face.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I looked really nice.

[Nate Jackson]

You looked amazing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Nate Jackson]

That was dope.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Jeffrey Campbell's. Those are Jeffrey Campbell's.

[Nate Jackson]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But yeah, no, I'm totally With you, with Adele and Leslie, like. Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

But I think that they would have rocked that spot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I think so.

[Nate Jackson]

I think. But I wouldn't even just say, like, oh, it needed to be a female either. Like, I would have liked to see, like, some, like, Quake would have went crazy right there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, he was there. He was just in the audience.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

I mean, we were all just there. That was. That was our Super Bowl.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I know.

[Nate Jackson]

Be honest with you. So it was. I thought it was fun, but, yeah, I think people just have to separate, like, jokes from, like, true sentiment, you know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I love that. That. That was our Super Bowl.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, it was. It was nice.

[DJ Envy]

So who's the next?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Brady did good, too, though. I'm sorry.

[Nate Jackson]

The next person that would have rock. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Who would you love to see get right roasted next?

[Nate Jackson]

Okay. So I think. I think the concept, based on what I'm looking at is they're trying to get goats of different industries.

[DJ Envy]

This concept is dope. Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

For it to be that big, Right. Like, it was Tom Brady, Dennis, this. I was saying LeBron, when he retires, would be crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tiger woods, wow.

[Nate Jackson]

I don't think he's not gonna come back.

[DJ Envy]

Tiger.

[Nate Jackson]

Shaquille o' Neal will be wild. You can't act like he's not one of the greatest players ever.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But LeBron, wow, that would be good, too.

[Nate Jackson]

Tiger Woods. Tiger woods would be. Because he keeps getting in trouble, but I bet he'd be like, don't talk about the accidents.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Michael Phelps, I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't have it. If you don't want to talk about accidents, you can't have them.

[Nate Jackson]

There was it.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. You got to be able to talk about everything, be dope. Shaq would be dope. Like, a.

[Nate Jackson]

A rod would be dope. Jeter.

[DJ Envy]

Jeter would be dope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's something you think young comedians, you know, that. That. That chase the Internet, chase the viral clips, don't understand about actually becoming great on stage?

[Nate Jackson]

There's no. You can't skip any of this. Like, at the end of the day, you're like, oh, you're. Yeah, you're killing it online. But go to this 5 or go do your 10 or. All right, bet. Let me see your hour. There's only a few people who are translating across from that, and there's people that have success. But I think, like, you know, that's a lot of eyes on you. You go out, people buy tickets, and then they see what's up. And then I think that we See, the truth the second time somebody goes out because it's like, all right, well, do they feel like you baffled them first time out? Did you just get them all mystified by the. Oh, I love this clip and I love that clip. So I'm gonna buy a ticket. All right, well, when you go out that second time, did that. Did the city come back? More of them does. That's like, all right, well, now you're bonafide with stamp. Like when DC was going out. DC's on his ninth lap of America. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's. That's a bona fide desi.

[DJ Envy]

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[DJ Envy]

Yo, what up, y'?

[Nate Jackson]

All?

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ Envy from the Breakfast Club. Now check this out. The first phone call that ever happened happened over 150 years ago. 150 years. That's before any of this. Before radio, before social media, before all the ways we stay connected. Today, that one call really started everything. And fast forward to now. It's springtime, the weather's breaking. People outside vibes are right again. Thank God. And it got me thinking. Who haven't you talked to in a minute? And, you know, through all these years and all these conversations at and T has been there connecting people in meaningful ways. This is more than a story of technological innovation. It's really a story about human connection, real people, real moments and real relationships. So we celebrate over 150 years of connection. Let this be your reminder. Don't wait. Make that call, send that text. Pull up on somebody you care about. Because at the end of the day, those connections, that's what really matters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Connecting changes everything.

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Okay, so quick, behind the scenes moment about my business because people always ask me, like, how do I actually run everything? So Shopify is literally the platform where I turned this tiny idea into a business. Before this, I was really just like popping up at any in person event, any vending opportunity I could, which I still do. But I wasn't really as focused online. I was like, you know, the websites are going to be too much to build out. I'm not like a super techy person, even though I can make things cute. And I didn't want to put up a website that would run my customers away. I wanted it to be efficient, to be easy. And Shopify helped me build brown girlgrinding.com out. Once I switched to Shopify, it finally clicked like, okay, I can actually do this. It's not about it being tough. It's about using the right platform to make it easy. Shopify takes all of the guesswork out. I build my own store, I manage my community, own my own customer relationships. Plus, this is my favorite thing. Shopify gets my products everywhere. I'm able to link stuff through Google, YouTube, TikTok, Shop the Shop app, even Chat, GPT and Instagram, which is very important for me. And Shopify's AI co founder, sidekick, game changer, let me tell y'. All, right? So it's helped me not only optimize my site, it helps me look at my sales trends, it updates my product skills, all the stuff I'm absolutely not an expert in. But it's like having a genius business partner that never sleeps. And right now, the brown girl grinding storefront and the Black Effect storefront is busy and Shopify is handling all of the heavy lifting. I love that for us. I am pumped, like so pumped that Shopify is going to show up at the Black Effect Podcast festival this year in a big way. And I will be there preaching this platform to all of the small black owned businesses that partner with us. So if you've been sitting on an idea or if you're ready to scale, which you've already started, this is your sign. Go to shopify.com Ben if I can do it, you can do it, too.

[Nate Jackson]

Mojo is doing really hot right now. I'm rocking with it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And he's funny.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. We might do something together. Like, after we messed around the Laugh Factory, we were seeing, like, I went to my team and was like, I'd entertain that for sure.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

He was already, like, now. Let's go.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. So, like, a little, like a young, what? Terrence Howard. That's who. That's who he give me all the time.

[Nate Jackson]

Terrence Howard, but he reminds me of a young D Ray Chicago. Light skin, different color eyes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

So that's a hell of a compliment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I also believe, like, the stage gives you a different level. Level of validation, too.

[Nate Jackson]

100.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, social media makes everybody think they're funny. But to me, a real comedian knows how to get up on that stage and make everybody laugh. And that, to me, that's what takes you to that next. Next level.

[Nate Jackson]

100. You can't. You can't say cut. Hey, let's do that again. It is linear. I want you to say whatever you said, ain't no go backs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

You don't get to say a joke.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn.

[Nate Jackson]

All right, hold on. Let me. Let me run that one more time. The crowd, like, what. What's what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Boo.

[Nate Jackson]

That's what. That's what that is. Or cricket. No. So that's what that. The truth Is that right? Like, you know, isn't. Isn't Broadway more authentic than what we watch on Plays are more authentic. Live plays. It's all in one direction, and the true talent is the. Like, I can't believe we captured. Right. There's no second take. There's no run that back. That's why I'll never stop doing stand up, because it's. It's the true Littman's test of, like, do you still have your funny? Are you still sharp?

[DJ Envy]

You ever got to that place where you did a show and it was like, it didn't hit today? Have you been there?

[Nate Jackson]

No, but I have done shows where I'm like, they just made me work.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

I'm like, by now, I would have had a certain amount of laughs. I'm like, to get the same amount. I'm like, I am sweating under this hat. Like, my hairline is damaged under here.

[DJ Envy]

What market is the toughest market?

[Nate Jackson]

Toughest market?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. If there is one for you.

[Nate Jackson]

New York has always been known to be a beast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Nate Jackson]

Everybody always says, people say New York is a beast.

[Lauren LaRosa]

People say that.

[Nate Jackson]

I. I found like. I found, like, D.C. is also a good one. To, like, really, like, see where you're at. Hollywood is tough, too, because everybody in the crowd think they're a star too. Right?

[DJ Envy]

They don't want to laugh.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They.

[DJ Envy]

Everybody's too cool. Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

You're trying to be cool. You best have just. Just talk about that. Just cook somebody. Oh, Mr. Cool right here. Like, that's how you stand them up.

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[Nate Jackson]

But in, like, this. The thing that's changed, like, with the Internet, like, being full circle to your question. Like, once you have the Internet, you actually have a following. The people coming to see you, you're not talking to general, you're talking to your fans that, like, they're ready. Like, you have. You have a. A grace period to work it out and float through like they love you already.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Hardest show is go do a show where there's nine comics doing 10 minutes and you. You see what I'm saying? Like, Netflix is a joke. Big old showcase. Like, I thought the Shaq and Burt show was challenging because it was a completely sold out show, but it was my sold out. I've been sold out five years. It beat my people. That wasn't my people. That was like, I had to earn again. I'm like, okay, yeah. I mean, my first 10 minutes, every set here in Brooklyn, they're like, all right, what do you got? You know what I'm saying? And then 90 minutes later, they're like, he has it.

[DJ Envy]

Because, you know, it's a following now. Because I remember when I used to go to Caroline's a lot, you really didn't know who was there, Right? You looked on a post and be like, so and so from snl. So and so. Like, you didn't know who they were. And then you had to catch. But now it's more like, I can follow you and be like, oh, my favorite comedian's gonna be in town. I'm gonna go check it. So it's a lot different, but what changed for comedy? I feel like maybe about four or five years ago, it was very sensitive in the comedy world, right? People were scared to say certain things. People were very. Put your phones away.

[Nate Jackson]

But now it was on about cancel

[DJ Envy]

culture, but it feels like it opened back up now. I feel like it opened back up,

[Nate Jackson]

whereas I don't know if it's open all the way. But I do know that that roast was most definitely needed, like, because now people really are just gonna have to understand, if you don't want to be rubbed, just don't watch it then.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Literally, that's what I said. I was sitting in that room, Nate. By the end, when Meek Mill was up there performing, I was singing a song, but I was like, yo, I don't know how I was ever canceled, ever.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, you said that somewhere, too. You're like, yeah, after watching that, I don't know how I was canceled.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Nah, I've been saying that ever since the Rose.

[Nate Jackson]

I really do think being canceled, you have to accept that and be like, I'm canceled.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's what if you have to

[Nate Jackson]

move, like, you got canceled.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't forget Shane Gillis. That's what he did. Remember Shane Gillis?

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got the SNL gig. They went back to his old podcast, heard him slurs. He said, cancel them. He went back to the grind so he don't give a fuck. Shane could fall off tomorrow and still be good because he got a huge core fan base that's gonna keep him rich.

[Nate Jackson]

There's nothing they can do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nothing they can do.

[Nate Jackson]

And that's what I'm saying. But. But let's say he behaved like he was canceled. Let's say he was like, man, nobody wants my stuff. And he shut down. He didn't. Right? Like, yeah, that's right. Canceled it. Like, you got you. We don't like you. And then so you stop recording songs. You don't rap no more. You don't tell no jokes. You don't do no shows that's canceled. Like, you have to accept the cat. If you go, look, I'm gonna still do my shows. It is what it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

I may. You may have just knocked me down from 20, 000 seaters to 10, 000 seaters. But, like, I'm funny, and I got a chance to say my side. Two sides of every story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's so many other.

[Nate Jackson]

Louis CK Was rocking all week at Netflix is. It was so many people that are. Supposedly. It's a rap for them having great shows.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Because the conversation about him was so big.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But, like, also, these people are white as fuck, too. Let's just, like, be all the way 100 with it. Like, you really. Their cancellation goes to a certain point. You feel me? Like, it's not. Nobody's taking shit from them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, for real, like, what Nate is saying is true. A lot of black people act like that they're canceled. These people. Like, I can name some. I don't want to take no names, because I will.

[Nate Jackson]

We still listen to R. Kelly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I'm talking about comedians.

[Nate Jackson]

I can name what.

[DJ Envy]

But, you know, like, Radio doesn't play R. Kelly like they used to and he has amazing records.

[Nate Jackson]

But I'm go get some. You like, man, that 12 play be gone though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Comedians who act like.

I can name some black comedians right now who supposedly got canceled.

[Nate Jackson]

What they name Ryan with?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They said suck my dick. Fuck y'. All. Okay, I'mma do it. I don't want you.

[Nate Jackson]

He making everybody else say names, right?

[DJ Envy]

Exactly.

[Nate Jackson]

And he usually say everybody else names.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Where friends.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I will say this though.

[Nate Jackson]

Okay. Who are they around? So I. So I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you think podcasts have helped comedy? Yeah, because they help you keep from being canceled. You can keep your podcast going. So you got your audience. You can stay on your stage. You can still keep doing your sketches and everything else that you're doing online. You can't act like you canceled like you said. Yes, but also, eventually we notice a dick riding business. So once you keep growing that audience, they'll be right back on your shirt.

[Nate Jackson]

N is a perfect example of doing what.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you got hot because you started doing everything on your own.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Everybody started riding.

[Nate Jackson]

Hey, Nate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Nate. Hey, Nate. You want. You want to be in this show? You want to be in that show? Blah, blah, blah.

[Nate Jackson]

So that's what you're calling dick riding?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is the dick riding business? It is.

[Nate Jackson]

Okay. I just think people gravitate towards heat like moths to a flame.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's the warm.

Oh, God.

Dicks are warm. But you know what I'm saying.

[Nate Jackson]

I know mine is. I don't know all the dicks of war.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Once you create your own heat, the moths will be attracted to the flay.

[Nate Jackson]

Right now let's stop saying the word dick. But I think that. And that's what I'm saying. I saw all week long. Right? Like, that was my first, like, being like, oh, like I'm not gravitating to someone. There's actually people on, like around me. That was what it was. Six sold out shows at the Laugh Factory and it was packed. Like Jo Koy popped in. Earthquake was just chilling. DL was. These are friends now. They're just chilling, having cigars and talking. Like they could go anywhere. They could be anywhere in the world, let alone we gonna be upstairs just chilling at Nate show. I'm. But they're. That. I don't. I just felt like, like. Welcome to the table, young man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was that the biggest storyline for you that came together to welcome to the table feeling or like.

[Nate Jackson]

For me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that week.

[Nate Jackson]

For me. Because it's been 24 years of grinding and be like, y' all don't see me, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

How hard I gotta go on stage, how sweaty I gotta be, how hard do I gotta rock, how many shows I gotta do, how big do they gotta be before? And then something just happened. And now I am so happy. There's literally nothing to complain about. I'm good with everybody. I don't have beef with nobody. I don't have, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I. Whatever I did to move the needle, I already then took that energy. And now we about to put 54 comics out that on a. With Netflix style looks. I got a TV show about to like, I'm happy. I'm up for some stuff right now that if I get. You can forget about it if it happens. I'm. I'm telling you, I'm happy. My mama good. My nieces. Is everybody good when you get.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not if you get.

[Nate Jackson]

You better talk like you already got it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can feel it on you.

[Nate Jackson]

I shook my head like, I gotta fix it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She ain't even that long.

That's why I was laughing while you

were shaking your head that hard.

[Nate Jackson]

Nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't move.

[Nate Jackson]

She was locking that face down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How do you tell the difference between genuine love and people who just want access to you nowadays?

[Nate Jackson]

Other people be like, we don't like him. Well, we don't like her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Nate Jackson]

Because I'm. My default is like, what's up? I'm not gonna change who I. I have to not. I have to be me. So you need that. You need that. You need your grim reaper on your team. That's like, ah, nah. We see you from a mile away, to be honest with you. That's the other thing. Like, you can see it from a mile away. It's the same character. This is just a different person playing it. You know what I mean? Like, how many times is somebody gonna try to be Mr. And then. And the hand is out next, right? Like you can you start to see it after person six especially women are easy to see. You know, it's really easy to see it. Some people, if they're. If they just can't for some reason, they got a blind spot. Their right hand man or their partner or their sister. Somebody's like, I don't like her. I don't like them. You know what I mean? So it's not just to get close to me. You got to get. There's a whole rack of people that are like, who are you and what you want? Yeah, you got to get vetted do you smoke cigarettes? Sometimes. I usually just hold them and then. And I put them out, but I don't really smoke them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody told me that they were concerned about you smoking cigarettes.

[Nate Jackson]

Who?

[DJ Envy]

They say a chain smoker.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, that sound made up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You smoke more than Dave. And I was like, nah, I ain't never. Because I've never seen Nate smoke.

[DJ Envy]

I'm not.

[Nate Jackson]

Like, I'm around him a lot, but I smoke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If he smoke like Dave, I'd see him smoke.

[Nate Jackson]

I smoke, but I don't think anybody smokes like Dave. And I've never seen nobody with a cigarette lit in their mouth holding another cigarette, about to pull another one out the box, you know, and holy moly. Yeah, he smokes for real. I actually have some jokes about like that, because I had bought some cigarettes the night that he did. He broke the record. He did six hours and, like, 38 minutes at the Laugh Factory. I was there, and it was a lot. It was a long show. He broke the world record at the time. And halfway through, he was like, I'm out of cigarettes. And I had went to go get some. My. I smoked Newports, and they didn't have any at the gas station. They only had American Spirit somethings. And Dave was literally like, who has American spirits? I was like, what? And I did. For the first time, I had some. So I ran down and like.

[DJ Envy]

And.

[Nate Jackson]

But he took, like. Like nine. Like, he took a disrespectful amount of cigarettes, which I told him at this brunch that I was at during the night. I'm telling you, all these storylines came together at that brunch. I was like, hey, how many cigarettes can you take from a nigga at once? Like, it was crazy. You don't pinch the whole front row off. Damn. But the other cigarettes were like, nigga. Like, they all fell forward. I was like, this is so disrespectful. He was like, my bad. But, like, at the end, I'm like, dave, I'm Nate. And he was like, thank you very much, Cigarette Nigga. And then he walked off. And so I have a whole set called Cigarette Nigga. That is like, all the times I met him. So I told him that. He was, like, hilarious, you know, but

[Charlamagne Tha God]

he knows your name now.

[Nate Jackson]

We're good. Like, so he did a. He did a promo where he. It's. Did you see his announcement for Netflix as a joke? So it's. He's sitting on, like. I. I don't know. I think he's on the Getty Way up above the city, all the city lights are out there, and he's just sitting there lighting a cigarette, and Morgan Freeman is voicing it, and he's just like, netflix is a joke. He's coming back to Hollywood. Something's missing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dave.

[Nate Jackson]

That Dave, my friend Dave. Now we got a ball game, and then he smokes a cigarette. But it was, like, epic. I went to the highest point I could find in Tacoma, Washington. We shot. Put it in. Some AI Trenton, my man. We locked it in, and we got AI. Morgan Freeman is like, nate. Nate Jackson. I don't know this nigga, but he gonna be there, too. Nate got six shows. So when I saw David was like, that promo, and that's when we just hit it off. And then I started talking about. I'm like, you know, do you remember when you did that cigarette? Like, he was like, you good with me? He said, you're gonna come do my club? He like, we should swap. I'm like, I will move to Yellow Springs just so you'll go to Tacoma. Like, that's. That's massive. Like, if Dave should go to my club. What?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Nate Jackson]

What? It's gonna happen. It's an A club. I got 280. It's beautiful. But that kind of booking, people hear about that across, you know, I mean, like, there's a. I would argue there's a pretty good chunk of the industry that's like, what's Dave doing? Like, like, what's. Where's his motion? Right? And that's kind of like, oh, well, let's do that, or don't do that. You know? I mean, so if. If he's like, yeah, I'll go do it. Which he said. And he said it three times. I'm like, all three of them. One of them was real. So he coming. We'll see. When do you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think I asked you to. Sort of. Kind of early. But I want to ask you clear. Do you think the Internet finally made gatekeepers irrelevant for comedians?

[Nate Jackson]

No. Because you can't call a venue. You can't route yourself. You can't go like, oh, here's my 40 tour that. You still need an agency. You still need. I mean, you. I don't think. I think it may have gotten rid of the manager. If you're willing to answer the phone or figure that scenario out, I think you can get by with a strong assistant at this point. But unless you have a thorough manager where you're like, you get it. Let's build something serious. But you, like, you know, if you Go, hey, I want to do Chicago, Indianapolis. I want to do Miami. Like, they aren't even taking you serious when you call. Like, who is this? You don't got motion like that. But CAA calls on your behalf, and it's like, oh, yeah, let's discuss routing. Because it's not just you. It's their cumulative strength by having 50 comics to go through. So now you're just. You're. Yeah, you're part of the roster. That roster is the strength. You know what I mean? So. But as far as a gatekeeper in, like, regards to getting exposure. Yeah. Like, you don't. You don't need to send set after set after set to whoever is the gatekeeper for the Tonight show anymore. It's like, look at this. Like, however many people are watching that I've. I promise I've got. I've dwarf that this month in views, you know, I mean, whilst. I would still love to do it, but it's like, it's not like you are or you are not not. And that's how. If you didn't get Carson, you don't exist. Like, you're a comic where. But now you go, yeah, here's my. Go to my page. People go. They see a blue check. Oh, you legit. The check or the numbers or whatever it is that makes people go, oh, there's legitimacy here. We don't. That doesn't rely on somebody who's watching a thousand tapes a day anymore.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

So, yes. But to a certain ladder rung before, it's like, I need some help to route this.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How do you test new material out in between?

[Nate Jackson]

Old material.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, but I'm saying, though, like, no,

[Nate Jackson]

that's literally like an Oreo. And the new jokes is the cream.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, I'm not.

[Nate Jackson]

Because you. If you do a new joke and it don't go over well, you'll spend the rest of your set trying to get them back if you already have them, then you try your joke, and it goes, well, cool. But if it doesn't, you. You already know what you're going to after that. Now, it's not a dig.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, but see, this is the thing. You are household name now. Like, people know you wherever, so where would you go out? Or do you not care if somebody got their phone out and you trying some new shit that you ain't really perfected yet? You know what I mean? Like, how do you. How do you work out?

[Nate Jackson]

I don't even understand why we're bagging phones all over the country. I don't I don't understand. I don't understand it. I don't care. Okay, here's how I see it. I'm gonna be able to post a video, and way more people gonna see it than you are off your iPhone. And I'm working with companies that make sure my name and likeness isn't out there outside of my own page. So they just pull it, copyright, strike it, whatever. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When you did your special, you didn't take phones either?

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, I didn't need to, really. I'm encouraging it.

[DJ Envy]

Really?

[Nate Jackson]

Why not?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because they market for what?

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, I got one. But we're gonna make one post they gonna make. If there's 200 of them, it's 200.

[DJ Envy]

Doesn't interrupt what you're doing when you got phones in there.

[Nate Jackson]

No, but I will be like, turn them glasses off. Because I see them. You know, they try to watch an entire show with the glasses.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, that's the new show.

[Nate Jackson]

One time or somebody was like, wasn't it Kevin?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was Kevin, right?

He took it from you?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Kevin Hart kicked my. Kicked me out of show one time.

[Nate Jackson]

It took the phone and everything.

[DJ Envy]

He didn't take the phone.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He had the metal glasses on. You could see him beeping.

[DJ Envy]

It was not no metal glass. It was not the metal glass. And I wasn't even taping. I got six kids, so I keep my phone on. Yeah, the wife called.

[Nate Jackson]

I go like this.

[DJ Envy]

Picked me up and got me and Kev seen me. Kevin, like, what's up? Ain't even seen him take me out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn it. Said, bye right on the way.

[DJ Envy]

Bye right on the mic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said, you deserved it.

[Nate Jackson]

He said, bye on the mic. Yeah, tell the kids I said hi.

[DJ Envy]

He said, if everybody know you by, man, and they kick you out, they know it's serious. So.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Okay. Yeah. I'm. I think if I was. I think if I'm like, all right, I'm. I'm rounding. I'm rounding third base on the material that's going to be in my next special. I may then get protective to be like, nah. Cause y' all leak some. Like, I could.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Then.

[Nate Jackson]

Then I could understand that. But right now, where I'm like. I'm throwing everything at the wall and just keeping with sticks and then throwing the sticky stuff and seeing what's even stickier and then throwing the stickiest and then be like, what's all that stuff? That's what I'm doing right now. I'm having fun on stage. It literally I'm I'm enjoying myself. So that's where we're at. You want to film that? Have at it. But if they film a lot, I'm like, fam. The camera. Yeah, like, like I saw. I noticed you 10 minutes ago and you're still rolling.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Or some people, they pull it up and they're like, right, like you don't

[Lauren LaRosa]

see the light, you know, the light

[Nate Jackson]

on your phone right now and they don't even be. And then two minutes later, the light back on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because they know you do a lot of crowd work, so they want to be a part of.

[Nate Jackson]

I'm with that, but I'm like, I tell them, like, we got six cameras or whatever. Like, we got coverage. Thank you. We don't need your little.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, well. Come film Nate Jackson at the Brooklyn Improv this weekend in New York City.

[Nate Jackson]

Six shows.

[DJ Envy]

If it's not sold out already, charge

[Nate Jackson]

your battery and come film everything.

[DJ Envy]

We appreciate you for joining us, Nate. Really do, man. Nate Jackson, he's gonna be at the Brooklyn Improv again. And where else can people follow you and all that good stuff?

[Nate Jackson]

Superfunnycomedyclub.com natejacksoncomedy.com superfunnycomedyjam.com and then on social media, just Mr. Nate Jackson or just Nate Jackson. Jackson just. If you type Nate Jackson in something within two clicks, you'll be there.

[DJ Envy]

It's Nate Jackson. Ladies and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Nate Jackson]

Thank you guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Nate Jackson]

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