INTERVIEW: Pluto On Success of Whim Whammie, Connecting With Sexyy Red, Album Collabs + More

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club – Interview with Pluto on the Success of "Whim Whammie"

Episode Title: INTERVIEW: Pluto On Success of Whim Whammie, Connecting With Sexyy Red, Album Collabs + More
Release Date: August 8, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Just Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guest: Pluto (Jada), 21-year-old rising rapper

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Introduction

In this vibrant episode of The Breakfast Club, Pluto (Jada), a 21-year-old emerging artist, sits down with hosts DJ Envy, Just Hilarious, and Charlamagne Tha God to discuss her meteoric rise in the music industry. From her humble beginnings as a hairstylist in Atlanta to the viral success of her breakout single "Whim Whammie," Pluto shares insights into her journey, collaborations, challenges, and future aspirations.

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Pluto's Background and Career Beginnings

Pluto opens up about her transition from hairstyling to music, emphasizing the organic nature of her entry into the rap scene. Originally from Atlanta, she started creating music with friends purely for fun.

Pluto (Jada) [01:33]:
"It was me and my friends... it is like what we do for fun."

She highlights that their initial sessions weren’t meant for serious release but rather as a creative outlet. However, one particular session led to the creation of "Whim Whammie," a track that unexpectedly resonated with a wider audience.

Pluto (Jada) [02:31]:
"Never in a million years did I think this would happen."

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The Viral Success of "Whim Whammie"

The turning point in Pluto's career came when "Whim Whammie" went viral on TikTok. The song's catchy "Lululemon" verse became a signature moment that propelled her into the spotlight.

Pluto (Jada) [05:06]:
"Yeah, that's what went viral first, the Lululemon."

She explains how the song's virality led to a flood of interest from record labels within a week of its release. Despite having no prior experience with music distribution platforms like DistroKid, Pluto capitalized on the momentum with the help of friends and online communities.

Pluto (Jada) [03:04]:
"In one week, we had every label calling us."

A pivotal moment occurred when JT (Gucci Mane) amplified the song's reach by sharing it on Snapchat, significantly boosting its popularity.

Pluto (Jada) [04:16]:
"JT just posted my song... it blew up on TikTok."

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Collaborations and Building Relationships

Pluto discusses her close collaboration with Sexyy Red, whom she considers a sister. Their synergy led to a remix of "Whim Whammie," further cementing the song's success.

Pluto (Jada) [07:34]:
"She make sure that she talked to me. I call her like a sister."

Their partnership mirrors Pluto's own values of authenticity and mutual support, distinguishing their collaborative work in a competitive industry.

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Navigating Industry and Public Perception

Despite her success, Pluto faced misconceptions and negativity, particularly regarding her relationship with Sexyy Red. The online community often misconstrued their professional collaboration as a personal separation.

Pluto (Jada) [10:01]:
"It was all misconstrued significant play."

Pluto emphasizes the importance of self-confidence and resilience in the face of public scrutiny, noting that much of the hate she encounters is confined to online interactions.

Pluto (Jada) [09:26]:
"I just learned to say eff it. I really just be moving in, like, positivity."

She also touches upon her initial sensitivity and how she overcame it to focus on personal growth and positive energy.

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Tour Experiences and Industry Insights

Pluto shares her first touring experience with Lil Baby, highlighting it as a blessing that provided her with invaluable industry exposure and a broader understanding of her fanbase.

Pluto (Jada) [15:05]:
"That was my first time meeting Lil Baby... it was an experience too."

She reflects on how the tour dispelled misconceptions about her online persona, revealing that her true fans show genuine support offline.

Pluto (Jada) [15:14]:
"They show love for real."

Pluto also recounts a memorable incident on tour where her wig was lost just before a performance, illustrating the challenges of maintaining her image in high-pressure environments.

Pluto (Jada) [26:37]:
"We had to run all the way to our Airbnb... I had to find a whole new wig."

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Future Projects and Mindset

Looking ahead, Pluto is focused on evolving her music and expanding her artistic repertoire. She is dedicated to outdoing her previous work, driven by an internal sense of competition and ambition.

Pluto (Jada) [12:15]:
"I'm working hard to make another win... better than win whammy."

She expresses sincere intentions to invest in her future, mentioning plans for a brick-and-mortar hair salon to merge her passions for hairstyling and music.

Pluto (Jada) [23:43]:
"I still have plans for hair, so... Definitely brick and mortar."

Pluto also hints at her upcoming album "Both Ways," showcasing her versatility and desire to create music that appeals to a broad audience.

Pluto (Jada) [22:01]:
"I want to make music for everybody... I want to go way bigger than Tick Tock."

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Personal Insights and Growth

Throughout the interview, Pluto emphasizes the significance of self-assurance and emotional resilience. As a Pisces, she identifies herself as sensitive and emotional, yet maintains a strong and grounded demeanor.

Pluto (Jada) [32:12]:
"I carry myself as strong-hearted... I keep my head on my shoulders."

She discusses the balance between her tough exterior and inner sensitivity, ensuring that external opinions do not sway her self-worth.

Pluto (Jada) [32:12]:
"I keep my head held high... nothing's gonna make me feel any other way about myself."

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Conclusion

Pluto's interview on The Breakfast Club offers a candid look into the life of a young artist navigating sudden fame, industry pressures, and personal growth. Her journey from hairstyling to viral stardom exemplifies the unpredictable nature of the music industry, while her dedication to authenticity and community impact underscores her potential for sustained success. As she continues to build her career, Pluto remains focused on creating meaningful music, fostering genuine relationships, and giving back to her roots in Atlanta.

Notable Quotes:

• Pluto (Jada) [09:02]:
  "Regardless, you cannot worry about what nobody else thinks. You gotta accept the criticism, the hate and love because it's gonna be there regardless."

• Pluto (Jada) [12:29]:
  "I'm in competition with myself, so I don't got no choice but to do better than the last."

• Pluto (Jada) [22:01]:
  "I want grandmas, babies, uncles, and cousins to listen to me, not just TikTok."

• Pluto (Jada) [32:12]:
  "I carry myself as strong-hearted and keep my head on my shoulders... nothing's gonna make me feel any other way about myself."

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This detailed summary captures Pluto's discussions on her rise to fame, the challenges she faced, her collaborations, and her vision for the future. It provides listeners and readers with a comprehensive understanding of Pluto's journey and the key moments that shaped her career.

Transcript

[Unknown Host]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Just Hilarious]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.

[DJ Envy]

The Breakfast Club.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Y' all finished or y' all done?

[Pluto (Jada)]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well, and we got a special guest in the building.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes, we do.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Pluto. Welcome.

[Just Hilarious]

How you doing, boo?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I'm good. How are y' all today?

[Just Hilarious]

Good.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Pluto's 21 years old.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Wow.

[Unknown Host]

Baby, baby, 21 with the song of the summer period.

[Just Hilarious]

How does that feel?

[Charlemagne tha God]

It's great. Like, it feels amazing. I get that question a lot, but, you know, it's just. It's still unbelievable to me. A lot of people don't even realize or know that because it's been so fast paced. I'm still taking it all in.

[Pluto (Jada)]

As you should.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Let's start from where Pluto came from. So you're from Atlanta, Georgia, right?

[Charlemagne tha God]

Mm.

[Pluto (Jada)]

And you started off as a hairstylist. What got you into writing raps? Was it fun? Was it like, I'm just going to try this, or was it a turn up session?

[Charlemagne tha God]

It was me and my friends. Like, in Atlanta, I can say that's a trend, like, to go to the studio with your friends and just make music. It's not nothing that we'll ever put out or, like, take serious. It is, like, what we do for fun. But this specific day, it was like, it was kind of different. We already knew the song was gonna be what it was. Probably not to this extinct, definitely, but we knew it was gonna be something because we liked it. The people we wrapped it to, they liked it. We got in the studio, when we wrapped it on the beat, it sounded better. We was like, oh, this is.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Did you know. Did you know as soon as that you did that song? Like, I ain't gonna be doing here no more. That's a. That's a rap for him.

[Charlemagne tha God]

No, I wasn't thinking like that at all. I didn't even think, like, I was gonna drop the song for. I just was Gonna put it on Tick Tock. I. And I knew it was going to do something on there because it's TikTok. But as far as, like, me not doing hair and me being a rapper, never in a million years did I think this would happen.

[Just Hilarious]

So when did you officially stop doing hair?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I can say the first house flew out to LA. It was my 21st birthday and a label had flew me out, and it was like, right then. Well, really when we dropped the song, because it was like, as soon as we dropped it. Yeah. Like, I think it went viral on TikTok the second day we ever posted it. So it was like. It was real fast. Like, real fast. I think like this the. In one week, we had every label calling us.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Like, did you have a manager and a team at that time, or was.

[Charlemagne tha God]

It just like, we have nothing? It was just me and her. Like, me and yk. We didn't have nothing but each other. And even. We didn't even know what we was doing. We didn't know about Distro Kid. We didn't know how to drop no song. We only put it on Tik Tok. And the people was telling us, drop it, drop it, drop it. We was like, we don't even know, like, how. Like, tell us. They say distro kid. And then we asked, like, people who we know who do music. And that's really how it happened. I don't even know. We were just. We was like. We seen. It was born up. We was like, we got to do something. And that's what made us think about the red mic video. We was like. Because it's like, it's not a music video, but it's kind of a music video. So they gonna sit here, the song, and they gonna see who made the song. And after the red mic video that was.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Things took off.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Pluto (Jada)]

So who was the first artist to reach out and be like, this is it. The first artist that signed that's out. That's.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I think it was JT who made it the biggest. I'm not sure she was the first or. What's his name? Gucci Mane.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Gucci.

[Just Hilarious]

So.

[Pluto (Jada)]

So how did JJ. You said JT made it one of the biggest. How did. What did JT do?

[Charlemagne tha God]

Jt? Literally, it was. I remember I was doing hair. No, we was actually in a meeting with a label and I was doing hair as I was in a meeting with the label and a hundred people started texting me, look at JT. Snapchat, 30 people. Everybody's sending me the video. I couldn't do. I could. I had to stop doing her. I had to tell my client, like, give me 10 minutes. JT just posted my song. Like, I didn't know how to feel. I was like, oh, my God. Like, this is crazy. And then she kept posting it, so it was like she made a Snapchat video. Then she was on Tick Tock. It blew up on Tick Tock. And then she kept posting it, so it was like she really showed real love to the song. So I do give kudos to her because she made it blow bigger. She.

[Unknown Host]

She was talking about. So she was saying she. When that was happening, she was saying she was hooked on the song. Yeah, the Lululemon verse. People love that verse. That became, like, the signature for the song.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yeah, that's what went viral first, the Lululemon. And we kind of knew that because that was catchy, like, and then around the time Lululemon was trendy in my city, like, everybody was getting Lulu with the booster. So, you know, I, I.

[Unknown Host]

My niece just asked me last week.

[Charlemagne tha God]

But, yeah, so she did make it go above and beyond.

[Unknown Host]

Did Lululemon reach out to you at all?

[Charlemagne tha God]

We reached out to them. My manager, she don't play, so she definitely hit them up a lot. And we got. We finally got a response back. They said they was gonna give us.

[Pluto (Jada)]

A box, but we want that bread after that box now. You know, at one time when you first came out, people mistaken you, mistook you for Future because of the name Pluto.

[Just Hilarious]

Oh, yeah.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Was that a problem at first or.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Nah, not really. But, you know, it was. No offense to anyone, but the older.

[Pluto (Jada)]

People, you say no offense, they was gonna take offense.

[Charlemagne tha God]

The older people, they just. That was the main ones who was saying, like, who Pluto? I don't know one Pluto, which is Future. But, like, on TikTok, when you look up Pluto, I guess I pop up. So, yeah, that's where it came from. I didn't even give myself the name Pluto.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, how'd you get it?

[Charlemagne tha God]

My TikTok.

[Pluto (Jada)]

TikTok gave it a name.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I had a fan base, like, before I was a rapper, so I had, like, a couple followers. I was fake TikTok, tock famous, and I had went viral, and they start calling me Pluto. My username always just been Pluto, but it was never really, like, my name or nothing. I was calling myself. So that was like, the Pluto girl. The Pluto girl. And he went from there.

[Just Hilarious]

What were you calling yourself before?

[Charlemagne tha God]

Just Jada. Like, I call myself my name. Yeah, your name is the Brats like, yeah, I went by the brat.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, well, you know, you couldn't have came out as no. Damn.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Oh, no, no, no. Not as my rap name, because we.

[Just Hilarious]

Had the first the bread, then we had.

[Charlemagne tha God]

That's just what, like, my people called me.

[Just Hilarious]

Got you. Got you.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Pluto (Jada)]

And then you and Sexyy Red got pretty tight.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yes. I love her.

[Pluto (Jada)]

How did you meet Sexy Red?

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yeah, how did we meet? Well, she just hit me up about the song, and then it was like, after we started talking more, she wanted to hop on it. I really sent the open to a couple people, but I liked her, so we went with hers. And we. It was really because the bun we had, like, she made sure that she talked to me. Like, she. We talked about a lot of different stuff. She give me advice about a lot of different stuff. We talk all the time. I call her like a sister. So that's really why I picked her for the remix, because we already grew a bun and it was like, why not? So.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Well, y' all come from similar backgrounds. You both did hair. Yeah, both.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yeah. And I. And I feel like we. We kind of similar in this in a way. Like, I feel like I would describe her as like a. A normal celebrity. Like. Like she not all bougie and like, she herself, and she gonna forever be herself regardless. And I feel like that's me, too. Like, I'm still gonna be me, so.

[Just Hilarious]

And I. I want to say I before you get. Because I know what you about to ask. I. I love how you came in here. No makeup. You're so pretty.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Thank you so much.

[Just Hilarious]

Them bracelets.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yes.

[Just Hilarious]

I love a natural face. I tell her that all the time. But you are so pretty. All of that. No, you are. I ain't trying to be sweet. I'm so. I'm being for real.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I really love you, too. I wouldn't throw that in there. I don't need. I love you.

[Unknown Host]

You be watching just with the mess.

[Just Hilarious]

Do you did your own hair then?

[Charlemagne tha God]

No.

[Just Hilarious]

So you don't do your own?

[Charlemagne tha God]

No, I don't do wigs. I did braids. Yeah, I was.

[Pluto (Jada)]

If you know somebody that does wigs.

[Unknown Host]

Don'T play with me.

[Just Hilarious]

They always coming at her.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Hair looks good.

[Just Hilarious]

She got a new team, and we. They've been working on it.

[Pluto (Jada)]

They working hard.

[Unknown Host]

What is it like now? Because. So, for instance, I know you a big fan of Jess, right? And watching just hilarious. And, like, her build business off of being viral. Now she's here at the Breakfast Club, and now you're here. What have you Learned business wise. Because you said you had a following online as well before you became a rapper. Watching people like Jess and being here now, like, what are you learning business wise and what's it like? This being so surreal for you?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I can feel like the biggest thing I learned is that, like, regardless, you cannot, like, you cannot worry about what nobody else think. Like, you can't. Like, you gotta just accept the criticism, the hate and love because it's gonna be there regardless. Like, and I had to learn that because first coming in, I'm sensitive.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlemagne tha God]

And, you know, I am kind of like the bad guy. So the people is on my butt. So it kind of was hard for me, but. But then I just learned to, like, say, eff it. Like, I really just be moving in, like, positivity.

[Just Hilarious]

Why you say you're the bad guy? What makes you the bad guy.

[Charlemagne tha God]

To the people? Because, like, in the situation with the song and yk. Yeah. So do I still knock over situation? It was never that we wasn't cool the interview.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Unc. Don't know what you're talking about now.

[Unknown Host]

So yk, Niecy and her dropped the song when we and me together.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Yes.

[Just Hilarious]

Okay.

[Unknown Host]

It seems like there's been a separation of sorts since the song blew up. Because there was a show where you were booked.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Correct.

[Unknown Host]

Or she was booked. What happened with the show when somebody not wanting to come out or something like that?

[Charlemagne tha God]

No, it's all misconstrued so clear that basically when.

[Unknown Host]

When the song blew up, fans made it seem like now they're separated because the song blew up. And, you know, she has. Pluto, has her own fan fame, and YK is trying to do her own thing as well. But clear it up, though.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I'll just say that I don't have no ill feelings towards her whatsoever. Like, she can come in the room today and I will speak Will. It would be everything. Would be everything. I just feel like the Internet really, like, played the biggest part into this. It was nothing. I'm not turning. I don't know how to say it because when I do speak, you know, they misconstrue my words. But it was just. I was invited to Sexyy Red. She invited me to a show. This one when we was both still. But it was like from the beginning. And me and yk, we. We knew, like, me and her before we dropped the song, before it was posted on TikTok, before labels got involved, we knew it wasn't going to be a rap group. We knew it was going to be a group thing. I knew that I. I really. If I'm being completely honest, I really wasn't even trying to be a rapper, right. And she wasn't a rapper at all. So it was like.

[Just Hilarious]

It just happened. It's just.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yeah, so it just happened. But then I made sure that, like, I let her know in the beginning that if it we was to move forward with this, that that would. It wouldn't be a group. Because look now. Like, now look. So I was invited Sexy Red. This where it all really started. She. I was invited out Sexy Red show and she wasn't. And the people on TikTok, they did not like that at all. So I didn't say anything. She didn't say anything. They did.

[Just Hilarious]

Right?

[Charlemagne tha God]

And then we both fed into it.

[Pluto (Jada)]

And that's why you said earlier that, you know, you ignore the people online. Cause they say, whatever. Absolutely. Now, do you chase Wimwami? Do you try to beat that record every time where it affects you?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I think if I'm being honest, because I feel like I be in competition with myself, so I don't got no choice but to do better than the last.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Right?

[Charlemagne tha God]

So I feel like every time I get in the studio and Kino know this, like, if I feel like it ain't, then I'm like, I have to do better than the last. So I'm working hard to make another win. Win me something better than win whammy. I'm just working.

[Pluto (Jada)]

And what did your family say when you said, you know what, I'm not doing here no more? I'm gonna take this rap thing serious. So what was the family like?

[Just Hilarious]

You ain't doing out braids no more? What the hell do you still braid? That's what they say.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I can braid, but no, I have not braided. I literally haven't. That's so crazy. They hate me for that. You know, my clients family. No, they. They don't. They don't hate me literally. They don't hate me literally. My family. But no, they are mad like, you know, they gotta find a whole new stylist. And I was one of the best in Atlanta, if we being honest.

[Pluto (Jada)]

So it's like that talk.

[Just Hilarious]

That's right.

[Unknown Host]

All of Atlanta or the west side of Atlanta, where you from?

[Charlemagne tha God]

All of it.

[Just Hilarious]

You know how hard it is to find a good braider.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yeah, that's what a braider.

[Just Hilarious]

And you gonna get in the booth and win. Whammy your ass about the.

[Charlemagne tha God]

My clients text me to this day, like, I still got my hair page. They still be texting me. Like, come on, please. Like, just please do my hair. I'd be like, y'. All. Like, I. I made it to where. Like, I still. Like, from time to time, I will give back and do hair.

[Just Hilarious]

But yesterday's price ain't today's price, is it?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I do it for free. Oh, I know.

[Just Hilarious]

When. Whammy.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I know.

[Just Hilarious]

That's right.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yes. I just had a back to school thing where I just, like, did some. A girl's hair for free.

[Unknown Host]

I love that.

[Just Hilarious]

I love that. That's dope.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Cause I still be missing doing hair sometimes. Yeah, that was my passion. That's what I wanted to do when I was. When I grew up.

[Pluto (Jada)]

You missed the hair. You miss talking shit.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I miss doing hair. That's my art. Like.

[Pluto (Jada)]

And what did your family. You didn't say. What did your family say when you said, I'm no longer gonna do that?

[Charlemagne tha God]

They don't like that. They love. Yeah, they ain't got no choice, because now I could just get their hair done, but it's like, they still, you know, miss the vest.

[Just Hilarious]

Any of you have any friends that kind of, like, changed on you or you see their behavior change changing since you. Well, honestly, you're making it and things?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I couldn't say that because my friends are my family, so I don't have many. So all my friends, we've been friends for our whole life. So these my sisters, and we gonna. They. Baby, they just happy to be here. Yeah, they just happy. So I love that for me, actually, because a lot of people don't have that. Like, I got a real big support.

[Pluto (Jada)]

How has the industry treated you because you went on tour with Lil Baby?

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, that was major love, that. Was that your first time on a.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Major tour with Lil Baby? Yes, that was my first time meeting Lil Baby.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, love it.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Oh, my gosh. Like, I loved her. And that was really, like, a blessing, like, for me, because y' all pick me. Like, y' all could have picked anybody. Y' all pick me. I'm new to this. And. And it was an experience too. Like, it made me realize that most of the hate that I get is only online.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Absolutely.

[Charlemagne tha God]

It's only online. Like, those people show love for real. So, like, I'm just waiting to do my n. My own tour.

[Just Hilarious]

And you gotta think about it, right? Because the people that say things online, if they were to see you, they would ask for a picture, they would ask for some braids. They would ask for. You know, they would not say the things that they can say. Hiding behind an account.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I was gonna say online, just give you that. Like, I could say whatever.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, yep, that battery in your bag. Yeah. I know one thing, you better stop taking pictures with money all over the place like that.

[Charlemagne tha God]

But I really don't. Money, Pluto, everybody, they say they love my money spread.

[Just Hilarious]

I don't want you to do that because you make yourself a target. Do you ever think like that?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I do. I, I, I, I am very cautious when it comes to these is because yeah, this is rent. It was random and I am not who I was last month. So yeah, yeah, I, I am cautious. Sometimes I do forget though. I am Pluto. Like, yeah, just like being at home and stuff. I like walking down. I can't do that and I be forgetting that and like going to the stores and stuff. I get bad anxiety now when I, when I be out.

[Just Hilarious]

But yeah, and that's the part that comes with it, you know? But I will say you are a really, really loyal person and you do for those who you love. Because you gave your best friend $10,000 for her birthday. Made my best friend call me. I ain't giving her $10. I don't care. But no, you do care.

[DJ Envy]

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[Just Hilarious]

No damn 10 hours. No, but you do. You do for those that you love.

[Charlemagne tha God]

You know, and I don't really like because I don't have anything to prove to no one. So I don't want another thing. I don't want nobody to think that, oh, I gave my best friend $10,000 because, no, I gave my best friend, $10,000 because it's her birthday and I love her.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Who's been. Okay, I was gonna say, who's been your favorite Win Whammy remix. Like, you got Lizzo hopped on it.

[Charlemagne tha God]

And Lizzo remix was fine. I ain't gonna lie.

[Just Hilarious]

I love rappers.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Lizzo remix was fine. She said never, never, never. But now I like, I like. Everybody's like, I don't know. Cause I. I give everybody a chance. So, like, regardless if it's not the best you got on that motherfucker. So I like it. So. But my favorite is Sexy. I like lottos too, though. Yeah, I like lottos. I really wish I coulda did like a big old 30 future.

[Just Hilarious]

That would be dope.

[Charlemagne tha God]

That'd be fine. It'll be 15 minutes, but we'll listen to the whole 15. Who would you put on it? Yeah, everybody. All every female rapper who want to get on it.

[Just Hilarious]

Who want to get on what about. Okay, so if it. If they only said, right, like, all right, look, we don't want it too long. We only want five. Who is your five top female rappers be to jump on the remix?

[Unknown Host]

Oh, it's just with the mess in.

[Just Hilarious]

Her news is first, you better cook with the Missy.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Okay, I'mma. I'mma leave Sexy off because she already on the remix. So I'm leave her off. So we going to go. We going to put Lizzo up there because never, never, never.

[Just Hilarious]

That's my favorite part.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Nicki Minaj.

[Just Hilarious]

Nicki Minaj. Missy, Lizo. Two more.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Lotto Lotto and Cardi B.

[Just Hilarious]

Hey, Glorilla, you're gonna sneak. You're gonna sneak that last one.

[Charlemagne tha God]

If I could be. Yeah, no, I've seen her. It's a AI version.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, that's. I've been. I listen to that version.

[Charlemagne tha God]

It's the AI version. Come on, Nikki and Cardi. I gotta do this one. No, like, for real.

[Just Hilarious]

Okay. Yeah, that'd be dope.

[Unknown Host]

I saw Metro Boomin because he just dropped a project and his project is like. He's like, okay, this is like old school Atlanta. This is like when you was in the house parties and your homeboy had to hold you up against the wall. The 2000s. And your music reminds people of that. People were talking about your music in conversation with that, but he was saying that because of social media, people, like the different areas don't have their own sound anymore. Everybody sounds the same. Did you see that? How do you feel about that?

[Charlemagne tha God]

If I'm speaking on just me, I feel like I don't sound like anyone. And I feel like in Atlanta, though, we all sound the same, but we are all different. Like, you gotta hear it. You gotta hear the difference in the music. Like, people thought me and Bunny B had the same song, but no, it's not. Like, it's not the same song. But I don't know if you. You just gotta. You gotta be from Atlanta to understand.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, the city.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Like, you just gotta be from there to understand. It's nothing that you can really explain.

[Just Hilarious]

And then, like, certain slang, you gotta be there to understand, too, because what the hell is pull your skirt up?

[Charlemagne tha God]

That's just something a made me mad, like, for real. And I really, like, woke up the next day. Like, I'm finna dish. This boy.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, he tried me. Okay.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I made a song.

[Unknown Host]

Y' all now?

[Charlemagne tha God]

No.

[Unknown Host]

Okay.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I don't even remember, right?

[Pluto (Jada)]

So you had so much success on TikTok. TikTok starts a lot of your records. Do you focus on that a lot, or do you just. Is that, like, your. Cause? Some people, they say, I want radio records. Some people, I want to go club. Is your focus, like, now, I'm gonna put this on TikTok.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Oh, no. See, my focus, I feel like I'm versatile. Like, I make music for everybody. I want grandmas, babies, uncles, and cousins to listen to me, not just TikTok. No, I want to go way bigger than Tick Tock. Like, who would have thought Win Win would have surpassed Tick Tock? Not me. I would never thought that. But, no, I don't make. Like, when Whammy was a different song for me, actually, like, when I rap before I was a rapper, I'm like a. I don't know. Like, it's weird. Like, I rap like a boy. Like, I'm like a drill rapper, they say. So it was like. It was real. Just that I just can make up on top of my head. I ain't never did nothing stuff before. So it just, like. It was just easy for me to rap like that. But making way and whammy, I feel like it was so. It came. It was so authentic. And it blew up how I did, because it was authentic. And it was like we was in that. Having fun, right? Like, overly just, like, the song was still being made while we was in the studio. Like, hold on, we gotta add that. So it was like, that's why I feel like when women, like, everybody can feel it. Everybody relate. When the niggas was fucking with. That's when I knew. Hell, yeah.

[Pluto (Jada)]

What was the first thing that you bought. When you got your first check. When you got your first check, what's the first thing you went and bought? Big thing that you bought.

[Just Hilarious]

Mm.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I don't remember. Cause I really haven't spent nothing.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Was it jewelry? Was it car? Was it a crib? Was it a bag? Was it shoes?

[Charlemagne tha God]

The first thing. I just bought me a chain, but that's it.

[Unknown Host]

You can chain. You have one now?

[Charlemagne tha God]

No. Okay. It's being made.

[Just Hilarious]

Okay.

[Charlemagne tha God]

But yeah, that's. That's the first thing. Like, I want to invest, though, because I want to. I still have plans for hair, so.

[Unknown Host]

Oh. So hair salon coming soon. Definitely brick and mortar.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Definitely.

[Just Hilarious]

You are very mature.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Thank you.

[Just Hilarious]

You're only 21. You a baby. But your mindset is beyond that. I love that you're giving back in the community. You know what I mean? And you're doing. You're not up here like, oh, I'm.

[Charlemagne tha God]

About to, like, spend all this money.

[Just Hilarious]

In Chanel, you know?

[Unknown Host]

Not the accident.

[Pluto (Jada)]

I don't know what accident.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I felt like that was your Miami. That was.

[Unknown Host]

Right.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I came down to that real quick.

[Just Hilarious]

No shot there. Cause that's my girl. I love Miami. But no, I'm just saying, you know, like, all the wrong things be the priority when you first get the first check, you know, and then you look up not even six months to a year later, and then those artists are broke. Those artists are like, all right, now what can I do for money? Because they did not do. And then a lot of it, it comes from nobody teaching them what to do. Like, you said you wanted to Invest. Like, at 21, I wasn't thinking about investing shit. You know what I mean?

[Unknown Host]

Were you viral at 21 days or giving back?

[Just Hilarious]

Shut up, Lauren.

[Unknown Host]

Cause, you know, I wasn't.

[Just Hilarious]

I was feeling.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I know.

[Unknown Host]

I'm asking you because I was gonna say, what was Your mindset at 21? And what Sheilin. Oh, shit.

[Just Hilarious]

I was a whole. In a pimp. Don't, Don't.

[Unknown Host]

Okay. Damn, Pluto. Sorry. Strike that question from the record.

[Pluto (Jada)]

This is real. Pluto.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Hello?

[Unknown Host]

I thought she might have. Okay.

[Just Hilarious]

All right.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Shit.

[Unknown Host]

Damn.

[Pluto (Jada)]

I wanna know. Mind frame was when you stepped out on tour, your first tour date, and you seen stadium tour, and you seen 12,000, 15,000 people out there. Did you get nervous? Was you ready? Was it like, oh, was it? I hope this mic works. I hope I don't fall. Like, what was your mind frame?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I'm not trying to be one of them. I'm really not trying to be one of them, but I'm a natural born star. Like.

[Unknown Host]

Seriously natural born star. I love that for you.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Ain't nothing wrong with saying that either, either. Because I feel like when be like we had rehearsals. So the most thing I was scared of was how big the stage was going to be. But when we got there and we. I'm like, oh, this is nothing. But I ain't gonna lie. Probably the first shot was a little.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Scared, a little nervous.

[Charlemagne tha God]

But then when I seen. Yeah. Because I didn't. I had my earphones in so I couldn't hear like the crowd. I could only hear me and. But when I like went back and looked at the videos, I didn't even cry. Like, it was like, this is offer big Pluto. Like.

[Just Hilarious]

And you had your headphones in. Was that like a ritual where you were just trying to center your energy? Like.

[Charlemagne tha God]

No. You know, when you perform, listen to the music. Yeah. Cuz it's like the sound be off or whatever. So they got you your piece.

[Pluto (Jada)]

What was the craziest thing that happened on tour, if anything craziest that you could talk about? She said.

[Charlemagne tha God]

She said the. No, that is. That was.

[Unknown Host]

And it's your home girl. You grew up with her.

[Charlemagne tha God]

No, this. My cousin.

[Unknown Host]

Your cousin? You looking at her for everything. I love you have the support and hair. She said something happened with your wig girl, I'll be knowing.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Okay. So. Yes. I think it was 30 minutes before I had to go on and my hair stylist literally lost my wig.

[Just Hilarious]

Lost it.

[Unknown Host]

So you had the Meeks, the braid. Oh, you know about what?

[Charlemagne tha God]

How did. What. She almost took her wig off for me.

[Just Hilarious]

That's right. That's that.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Hold on. Excuse me. Question. So a wig, like fitted cap. So I could just take mine off and give it to you and you could take yours. Is that how wigs work?

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yeah, I mean, but we got, you know, you got to get it fixed up. But yeah, basically. Yo, but it was. It was so crazy. Like, I literally cried everything.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, what show was it depending on the city. What? Ain't no way you can go and get another one, bro.

[Charlemagne tha God]

No, but what? We had to run all the way to our Airbnb. I told you I was about to go in in 30 minutes or like 20. You brought it back up and he had to. We had to go find a whole nother wig. Good thing I had like an extra one. But it was like still like he was putting on the wig. Like as I'm walking out, like, I.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Know he's hoping that wig ain't blow off.

[Unknown Host]

Was it laid. Did the lace lay? That's not even enough time for you to put the band on.

[Just Hilarious]

It got the pluck.

[Charlemagne tha God]

It just lasted the show.

[Pluto (Jada)]

The hell y' all talking about? The pluck.

[Unknown Host]

Okay, the sh on the front and the lace.

[Pluto (Jada)]

I want to know. I really don't want to know.

[Just Hilarious]

Jesus.

[Charlemagne tha God]

So did y' all ever find it?

[Just Hilarious]

Did the other wig pop it?

[Charlemagne tha God]

No, it was a 30 inch jet black.

[Just Hilarious]

Oh, somebody stole that.

[Unknown Host]

They took that.

[Pluto (Jada)]

What is a bus down?

[Charlemagne tha God]

It literally disappeared like the bus down.

[Unknown Host]

Yes.

[Charlemagne tha God]

We searched everywhere. We was everywhere around the arena. Oh, girl.

[Just Hilarious]

What. What city was it? Manager?

[Charlemagne tha God]

Dallas.

[Unknown Host]

Dallas. But it was find a girl to pull up and all that stuff. Y just had to figure out real.

[Pluto (Jada)]

So somebody's dating Pluto. The thing to get them for Christmas is a bust down wig.

[Just Hilarious]

Bust down middle part.

[Unknown Host]

Bone street, she could do her own bust down. She do hair. She don't know.

[Pluto (Jada)]

If a guy want to impress her, you get up, bust down.

[Unknown Host]

No, if you want to impress her, she's trying to build a brick and mortar portfolio. A real estate portfolio, probably. That's where you gonna.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I need someone towards my building, period.

[Unknown Host]

Tell Wendy. Tell Envy. Stop playing with you.

[Pluto (Jada)]

I'm just asking because I don't know. I've never heard of a bus. Look, I'm married. I don't.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I get a new wig every time I get my hair done. I don't need nowhere.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, don't play that at all. All right, so look, you single. Okay.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Wait.

[Pluto (Jada)]

That'S going to be a text.

[Unknown Host]

Somebody in the dm. Is it a rapper or is it like a. Oh, my goodness.

[Just Hilarious]

Stepping back, I can hear that you done went up there on Breakfast Club, you talk to me, all that.

[Charlemagne tha God]

No, it's nothing.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, they want to claim me and all that when whammy.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Go get a bath. Well, no, I am single.

[Just Hilarious]

Good. Stay focused.

[Charlemagne tha God]

That's all right.

[Just Hilarious]

I ain't nothing wrong with love, but just stay focused. You got a lot.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yes, I'm in my peak. Like I gotta.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, girl, that's when they find.

[Just Hilarious]

Center yourself.

[Charlemagne tha God]

They own me now, girl.

[Pluto (Jada)]

They own me now.

[Unknown Host]

You just be in love now.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Do your managing your. Your cousin be checking your DMs. Cause I know they be on you.

[Charlemagne tha God]

She got my Instagram. All right, good.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Cause you be boxing them out, cuz.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Actually, I be forgetting that you got it.

[Unknown Host]

Would you be in there sending things and doing things?

[Charlemagne tha God]

Mm, mm. It be people texting me, though.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Pluto (Jada)]

How many celebrities. You ain't gotta say no names. How many celebrities be in that damn crazy.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I mean, a lot of them.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Hollering.

[Charlemagne tha God]

That's just how they are talking about.

[Just Hilarious]

Pull your skirt up.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Please.

[Just Hilarious]

You know what I mean?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I would never do you like that. Okay.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Now, there's something you got to be careful of. We call them shooters. You got to be careful of the shooters.

[Unknown Host]

She might like the shooter. She won't feel protected.

[Just Hilarious]

No, no, no, Lauren. Oh, we ain't got time to protect her.

[Charlemagne tha God]

But when she gets sticky, what you.

[Just Hilarious]

Say about a blicky?

[Charlemagne tha God]

You know that song? Yeah. Yeah, she gets sticky. Blitz on.

[Just Hilarious]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna have to play auntie now.

[Unknown Host]

You ain't gonna want the blicky.

[Charlemagne tha God]

No, I don't want.

[Unknown Host]

It's gonna be another blicky, but.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Oh, I don'.

[Unknown Host]

Before.

[Just Hilarious]

Okay.

[Unknown Host]

Pluto. Both ways. So project that you're working on right now, how has it been putting together this project? Because it's your first time putting together, like, a whole company.

[Charlemagne tha God]

It was. It was kind of pressure because, like I said before, I'm trying to make everything better than the last. And then, you know, I'm trying to keep my name alive as well.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlemagne tha God]

You know, I want to please the people in my fans, so that's the only reason why I feel like it was pressure. But I get in the booth beat, and I be ready. So, yeah, I can't go to the studio without being ready.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Now, with all these artists that you named earlier that did this remix, how many did you actually meet? Because, you know, you talked about lotto. You talked about 60. Well, of course you know Sexy Red, but how many did you actually meet?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I met 60.

[Pluto (Jada)]

That's it. So you didn't get a chance to meet none of them yet?

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, it's coming.

[Unknown Host]

No phone combos or nothing.

[Just Hilarious]

It's coming.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Oh, I talked to me and JT when she was posted. She was the first one who I sent over to. We talked on the phone a couple times. Like, she's very cool, too.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, we love jt. She's. Listen, it's coming. Yeah, busy, but you finna be busier as busy. All of that. I'm very proud of you. I'm glad you came.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Thank you.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Let's get into a record off the album, what you want to hear. And don't say when we're in, because I play it in the mix. So what else do you want to hear?

[Charlemagne tha God]

I'm just a girl.

[Pluto (Jada)]

I'm just a girl. What's up? I'm just a girl. About.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I'm just a girl but I ain't no, I'm just a girl.

[Pluto (Jada)]

I thought it was a sentimental song. I'm growing up but I ain't no bitch.

[Just Hilarious]

I love that.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I feel like that. Really? That song, that's me. Like. Like a lot of people say I'm like tough or gangster, whatever the case they want to call it. But I feel like I carry myself as, like, strong hearted and like I keep my. I got my head on my shoulders, like, a lot. You can't. Like, it's nothing that you can say or do to me that's gonna make me feel. Feel any other way about myself. Right. So I'm very secure in myself.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Are you sensitive? Are you like a woman in a relationship or.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yes, I'm. I am sensitive. I'm a Pisces. I'm emotional, but yeah, so. But I still like to other people. You'll never know. I keep my head held high.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Okay, so let's. Let's get into the record right now. We appreciate you for joining us, ladies and gentlemen, Pluto. This is one of your first interviews too, right?

[Charlemagne tha God]

Yeah, one of the first. Yeah. I was on our heart radio.

[Pluto (Jada)]

This is I heart.

[Charlemagne tha God]

This is.

[Unknown Host]

I heard. Where were you? You were talking.

[Just Hilarious]

This is a part of our heart. But she did.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Was it la? Oh, Atlanta.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Was it Jojo?

[Charlemagne tha God]

Or was it Jojo?

[Just Hilarious]

Okay, dope.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Well, there you have it. It's Pluto. The album Both Ways is out right now. And let's get into the joy. It's called I'm Just a Girl. And we appreciate you for joining us.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Thank you.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Don't be a stranger. Make sure you come back.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I love y'. All. Oh, my God. God, y' all was sweet. I was scared at first.

[Unknown Host]

So sweet.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Pluto, we didn't end yet.

[Charlemagne tha God]

I was scared.

[Pluto (Jada)]

Pluto, we didn't end it.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Oh, wait.

[Pluto (Jada)]

We didn't end it.

[Unknown Host]

Let her rock out.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Oh, wa. It. I'm up.

[Just Hilarious]

So I'm up. Pluto.

[Charlemagne tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Pluto (Jada)]

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, baby.

[Just Hilarious]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.

[DJ Envy]

The Breakfast Club.

[Just Hilarious]

Finish or y' all done.

[Unknown Host]

This is an iHeart podcast.