INTERVIEW: Rob49 Talks New Album, 'WTHELLY' Going Viral, Relationship With Birdman, G Herbo, Family Loss + More

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club Featuring Rob49

Episode Title: INTERVIEW: Rob49 Talks New Album, 'WTHELLY' Going Viral, Relationship With Birdman, G Herbo, Family Loss + More
Release Date: May 30, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Just Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Lorna Rose
Guest: Rob49

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1. Introduction and Light Banter (00:00 - 00:57)

The episode kicks off with the classic humorous exchanges among the hosts, setting a relaxed and entertaining tone. Charlamagne Tha God teases Rob49 about blaming the hosts and their entourage for his Knicks' loss during an Indiana Pacers game, leading to playful banter about sports and luck.

Rob49 (00:32): "We should have ignored you last night. I seen you at the Indiana Pacer game a couple nights ago, and my Knicks lost. And I blame it on you."

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2. Rob49’s Viral Hit: 'What the Hly' (01:53 - 03:28)**

Charlamagne delves into Rob49's breakout single, discussing its unexpected virality. Rob49 recounts the song's spontaneous creation during a session with Skilla, highlighting that the track's success exceeded their initial expectations.

Charlamagne Tha God (02:00): "I ain't gonna lie. I knew the song was gonna be good. Like, we knew as soon as we made it..."

Rob49 shares how the song gained traction quickly, with DJs spinning it in clubs and its subsequent viral spread.

Rob49 (02:50): "I ain't gonna lie, brother. I really did. I can't lie, really. I swear to God. My partners already knew."

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3. Album Release and Creative Process (03:34 - 05:58)

The conversation shifts to Rob49's upcoming album, "Let Me Fly." He discusses the emotional depth of tracks like "Hit Me, Mama," describing the fear of recording deeply personal content but ultimately finding catharsis through performance.

Rob49 (03:34): "You gotta be real with yourself, like, at some point. So that's what it was on."

Rob49 emphasizes the authenticity in his music, contrasting it with his earlier reluctance to believe in his own work.

Rob49 (04:10): "You was at a point where you didn't believe in yourself."

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4. Collaborations and Relationships in the Industry (05:52 - 07:24)

Rob49 elaborates on his collaborations, notably with G Herbo. He explains how Herb's remix of "What the H**ly" came about organically, showcasing mutual respect and the strong bond between the two artists.

Charlamagne Tha God (04:15): "I reached out to one person. And that was Herb."

He also touches on Birdman’s influence and continual support, highlighting Birdman's belief in his potential.

Birdman (18:33): "You're doing it right. I'm so proud of you."

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5. Navigating Success and Mental Health (07:38 - 12:28)

The hosts and Rob49 discuss the pressures of newfound success. Rob49 opens up about his struggles with mental health, substance use, and the impact of losing family members. He reflects on the challenges of seeking validation and the burden of being seen as a role model.

Rob49 (08:16): "I was just searching for validation from like, from like people who we looked up to coming up."

Rob49 candidly discusses his relationship with social media, expressing discomfort with the platform and its impact on his genuine self-expression.

Rob49 (16:32): "I don't like social media."

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6. Financial Success and Investments (10:00 - 14:00)

Rob49 shares insights into his financial achievements, including significant car purchases and real estate investments. He humorously details the variety of cars he owns and mentions his ventures into real estate, emphasizing his mother's role in managing these investments.

Rob49 (10:00): "I bought a lot of cars... one Tahoe, a Corvette, a Hellcat, a G Wagon, a Lincoln."

He also discusses opening a lounge in New Orleans, "Ness," illustrating his entrepreneurial spirit.

Rob49 (13:38): "That’s in New Orleans."

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7. Future Plans and Artistic Vision (15:02 - 37:07)

Rob49 outlines his aspirations for the future, including potential relocation to Italy for privacy and a more serene lifestyle. He expresses a desire to eventually step away from the music industry, focusing on personal happiness and meaningful connections with fans.

Rob49 (15:11): "I just won't be so out of touch with the world, like, mentally."

He discusses plans for upcoming projects, including collaborative duo albums with G Herbo and plans for a more intimate tour designed to foster closer connections with his fanbase.

Rob49 (30:43): "I'm working on two duo albums... One called 'Youngest in Charge' and another with Herb."

Rob49 emphasizes his commitment to authentic artistry over mainstream success, aiming to leave a meaningful legacy.

Rob49 (34:53): "Blueprint all day... I want them to know I can rap."

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8. Personal Reflections and Legacy (37:14 - 41:36)

In the final sections, Rob49 reflects on his legacy and the importance of staying true to oneself amidst fame. He discusses the influence of mentorship and the role of prayer in fueling his motivation.

Rob49 (40:11): "Just keep going... Every situation is a gym."

He advises younger artists to focus on positivity and resilience, drawing from his own experiences of overcoming doubt and setbacks.

Rob49 (41:17): "Prayer is fueling me. Like, God fuels me."

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9. Conclusion and Final Thoughts (41:45 - 42:02)

The episode wraps up with the hosts thanking Rob49 for his candid and insightful conversation, highlighting his growth as an artist and individual.

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Notable Quotes:

• Rob49 on Authenticity:
  "I want them to know I can rap." (34:53)

• Rob49 on Overcoming Doubt:
  "Don't let me finish. Don't look at none of the negative comments that people posting about you." (40:04)

• Rob49 on Mental Strength:
  "Because I don't know. My mind just a little stronger than everybody else's mind." (20:40)

• Rob49 on Mentorship and Support:
  "He just called me yesterday. He like, man, you're doing it right. I'm so proud of you." (18:33)

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Key Takeaways:

• Creative Process: Rob49 emphasizes spontaneity and authenticity in his music creation, often resulting in tracks that resonate deeply with audiences.

• Navigating Success: Despite rapid fame, Rob49 grapples with mental health challenges and the pressures of maintaining genuine connections.

• Entrepreneurial Ventures: Beyond music, Rob49 invests in real estate and business ventures, showcasing his multifaceted approach to success.

• Future Aspirations: Rob49 aims to balance his career with personal well-being, contemplating a quieter life away from the public eye while continuing to produce meaningful music.

• Mentorship and Legacy: Influenced by figures like Birdman and G Herbo, Rob49 seeks to inspire and support the next generation of artists, advocating for resilience and authenticity.

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Conclusion:

This episode of The Breakfast Club offers an in-depth look into Rob49's journey as an artist navigating the complexities of success, personal struggles, and future ambitions. Through candid conversations and reflective insights, Rob49 paints a portrait of an artist committed to authenticity and personal growth, while striving to leave a lasting impact on the music industry and his community.

Transcript

[DJ Envy]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Just Hilarious]

Wake that ass up early in the morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Breakfast Club.

[Rob 49]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here as well, and we got a special guest in the.

[Just Hilarious]

Building, fresh off a flight.

[Rob 49]

Rob four, nine. What's up, brother?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How y' all doing?

[Lorna Rose]

What's up? How you doing?

[DJ Envy]

I feel like I can't say see you without not saying, what the helly?

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah, I know, right?

[DJ Envy]

Everybody greet you like that now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I be ignoring them.

[DJ Envy]

I say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man, don't put me on.

[Rob 49]

We should have ignored you last night. I seen you at the Indiana Pacer game a couple nights ago, and my Knicks lost. And I blame it on you.

[Just Hilarious]

Why you blame it after? I don't know.

[Rob 49]

I gotta blame it on everybody in that building. 50 gets blamed, too. Everybody gets blamed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

50 get blamed.

[Rob 49]

Yeah, y' all was all bad luck for my Knicks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But 50 from here, though, that's all right.

[Rob 49]

Y' all was all bad luck that day.

[Just Hilarious]

Spike Lee was. That makes no sense.

[Rob 49]

Spike Lee, too. That was all bad luck that day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Rob 49]

But what did you become a Pacers fan?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Huh? When I said, what the Halle Berry. What the hellen? When he was like, man, I with him, I'm like, I with you, too.

[Just Hilarious]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hell, yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

So he gave you free tickets? He gave you free tickets from that point on?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, for sure. Okay. Buffalo Wild Wings gave me some tickets last night, though. We got some shit going on.

[Lorna Rose]

Oh, wow.

[Just Hilarious]

Oh, you about to do a bubble.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Of Wild Wing sponsorship, hopefully with the. What is called Habanero. Habanero.

[Rob 49]

Habanero.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Habanero.

[Rob 49]

Habanero.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know, cuz I'll be getting the honey hot and stuff like that.

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah. So say with the habanero.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

With the habanero.

[Lorna Rose]

There we go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. Shout out Buffalo Wild Wings.

[Lorna Rose]

Congratulations on that. Speaking into existence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, big one.

[Just Hilarious]

That should make you say, what the hell?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not for sure.

[DJ Envy]

Is this all crazy? Because I know the song with the heli. It was kind of like just a song. You had y' all playing around in the studio and then it's so. I mean, all your songs are big, but, like, it has such impact and kind of was like this song you put out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't gonna lie. I knew the song was gonna be good. Like, we knew as soon as we made it, we made it down the street, like, two minutes away in New York. For real. We was on tour, man. Skilla. It was Skilla's session. I Wound up going in there and was making some songs with him, but he had got tired. I'm like, stay. He wound up leaving. So I wound up doing like three songs and they wound up in. What the hell?

[Just Hilarious]

Why'd you end up shouting out all them random people at the end of the song? Or was it random?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was bullshit. Like, we were just bullshitting, laughing, like, just saying anything. Coming up with your own. What the hell is, like, how people doing now? I was just coming up with my own. Like, what the helly bronze? In like, all that type stuff.

[Just Hilarious]

I don't know why. When I hear that song, I think a juvenile. That's something juvie would have did back in the day, you know, Take a. Take a. Take a phrase. Everybody's saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was thinking about that and I was kind of comparing it to it, but I'm thinking about it, bro. I can't compare that to him. He was rapping his ass off.

[Just Hilarious]

Oh, no, no, I ain't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I would plan on that.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah. I ain't comparing it to. Huh. I'm just saying that the style of it. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not for sure. For sure.

[Rob 49]

Did you expect it to be that big, that fast?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't gonna lie, brother. I really did. I can't lie, really. I swear to God. My partners already knew.

[Rob 49]

You dropped it on. I don't remember right before that weekend, but that weekend DJs was already playing with it in the club and it was going crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what's funny? It was made six months before, I think I took so long to drop it. I stopped believing in it a little, like I was dropping. I dropped like two singles and I'm like, man, we playing. We ain't dropping. What the hell is. Let's just do it. And we just did it. And it was what we thought it was gonna be like.

[Just Hilarious]

Now you got a nine figure Buffalo Wild Wings deal. See what I'm talking about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Six.

[Just Hilarious]

Okay.

[Rob 49]

You counting your money? He did that to count your money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all right.

[Just Hilarious]

Let me fly your album. What did you have to let go of personally in order to let yourself fly on this album?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just think, like I said, thinking about myself. Like, man, I stopped believing in songs. Instead of, like, not believing in myself, I was just like, forget it. Like, man, whatever happens, happens. You're a bitch if you do. You're a bitch if you don't. Like, you know, so you was at.

[Just Hilarious]

A point where you didn't believe in yourself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't believe in myself. You know, when you Keep coming with them. It's like, man, can I come with another one? Like, you gotta be real with yourself, like, at some point. So that's what it was on. That's what I was on.

[Rob 49]

Now, I wanted to go back to. You were talking about, what's the helly? Before that. You did a bunch of remixes on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Rob 49]

So did people call you for the remix? You reached out to them. Cause you went all left, right? You did the Bieber.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I reached out to one person.

[Rob 49]

Who was that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that was Herb. But Herb had his remix done three months before with the Helly Drop. Like, he heard the song and Tootsies with me, I'm like, man, listen to this song. He like, man, I said, that's the song I was telling you about. He wound up doing it, like, the next week. I didn't even. I really didn't even tell him about it. Remind him. He just did it. And Justin just sent it. I called Justin one day, like, man, you might well get on the remix. He sent it to me. You called him.

[Rob 49]

You and Justin be hanging out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We be talking and shit like that. But he called. He just. While we was on the phone, he like, man, check your message. I had already did it. And Lato sent her shit. I ain't like, everybody just did it on their own. For real.

[DJ Envy]

So the DM with Justin Bieber, that was like, promo. Like, he had already done.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, he.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, that was, like, real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. That's why I told him, like, you fuck with it so hard, you might well do it. Everything is real. Like, I be putting it in real time.

[DJ Envy]

Like, that's fire. Justin Bieber had DMed him, like, okay. I didn't know if y' all knew.

[Lorna Rose]

That, but I didn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Justin, he just had DM'd him, like, a line from the song. And then I thought it was just, like, promo for the remix that he was gonna do. But that's fire. That.

[Lorna Rose]

It was just like, that is dope.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, it was.

[Just Hilarious]

There a song on Let Me Fly that scared you to record? Because it felt too honest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hit me, Mama Hit me, mama I.

[Just Hilarious]

Knew you was gonna say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hit me, Mama I recorded Hit Me, Mama in Times Square. Funny as hell.

[Just Hilarious]

Wow. What's that record mean to you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, man. At the moment, I really recorded it, like, laying in a bed. And then I wanted to finish it in, like, three months later, but I was scared to finish it because I ain't wanna get that deep. You Feel me?

[Just Hilarious]

What you mean, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Real talk. Like I was saying some stuff or whatnot that I wouldn't normally say, like, out loud.

[Lorna Rose]

So is it because you are too vulnerable in your opinion? You didn't wanna be that vulnerable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, some things, I don't even wanna come to the. I don't even want to come to the realization. Like I say something like, mom, I lost my mind. I feel like I lost my mind, but I never say it out loud. You feel what I'm saying? Because you don't want to come to that realization. Like stuff like that.

[Just Hilarious]

I ain't going front. That's probably my favorite version of Rob 49.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think so? Hell yeah. I appreciate you. You know Meek tell me the same thing. Who, Meek? He just text me the same thing. Like, man, I ain't know you was coming like this.

[Just Hilarious]

Would it make you want to record more records like that or is this too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how I came rapping, though. When I started rapping, I was like. I was in a deep dark depression and I started rapping like that. Rapping about what I was going through. And they ain't wanna hear that. So I just started getting on what I be on. You feel me?

[Just Hilarious]

You know, Let Me Fly. The title sounds like a cry for freedom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how I feel about it though.

[Just Hilarious]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how I feel. Like, like I said, we coming with back to back to back to back. Even when you think you're not gonna come with another, you're coming with another one. But they still play you like you ain't like one of them. Like, you feel what I'm saying? I feel like, man, as I would turn like, it's the young people turn like, let us fly, not just me.

[Lorna Rose]

You said you used to think rappers were lying, right? But now that you a rapper, you know they lying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the. I got a little more respect for them. I got a little more respect for the rappers that came up before me.

[Lorna Rose]

But do you still feel that way about some of them be lying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Lorna Rose]

Well, what was one of the most surprising truths that you found out about the industry since you've been in it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not even a surprising thing, but like the people that I listened to, that was one. They wind up being the ones who was really like. You feel what I'm saying? Really the ones. So, yeah, that's one of the truths I loved about it.

[Rob 49]

And have you spoke to Skillababy recently? How's he doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I text him the other day. You know, he probably going through some more stuff. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, just let him have his moment. Not till he get his mental right. Get well soon though, baby boy.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah. Salute to skilla, baby. And you said, you know, this album, it feel like freedom. So what made you feel like, I guess caged the most? Was it your life or your career now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really, like, really, like, I really got out of this, but I was just searching for validation from like, from like people who we looked up to coming up. Like, you feel what I'm saying? And I came to the realization, like, I don't care, like we gonna be the new ones and we just gonna handle it how we supposed to handle it, right? And that's how I feel about it.

[Just Hilarious]

Who was you seeking validation from?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I'm just saying, like bigger artists, like, you know, like, not even validation far as like, you know, like when all the younger people was coming up before us, like how they made superstars. Like, I feel like we ain't really got like that right now. We ain't really got that.

[Lorna Rose]

It's the same in a bunch of different industries. So I'm a standup comedian. The stand up, the greats before me. I at one point wanted to live up to what I thought they expected or what the standard was of exactly. Right. But we knew school, so we do shit differently. We got famous differently, you know what I mean? We have. We shot like up. Our platform grew with the help of the Internet, which a lot of them didn't have. So, you know, it's like that in all arenas, all industries.

[Rob 49]

What got you over that though, where you didn't feel like you had to had the validation or did you get the validation you needed?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just. I don't know, bro. I just woke up one day was like, I wanna step on everybody neck. And I dropped with the heli that next week. And then we just start stepping on everybody neck.

[Just Hilarious]

And then what you saw more, more rap niggas acting like you than Lil Wayne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly.

[Just Hilarious]

That did something for you too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They was doing it.

[Just Hilarious]

That's when, you know, I guess it's your generation. That's a line that he has on the record. Birmingham depict you with Birdman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Nah, for sure. Nah, they been doing that.

[Just Hilarious]

You really bought 15 whips in a year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Not just my. Not just my cars.

[Just Hilarious]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got my mama cars, my sister's cars. I got me like full car.

[Just Hilarious]

And who the rest went to, don't say you buying these women cars.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got a girl, a car. Not an eight girl.

[Just Hilarious]

You said eight girl.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I might say my girl. I said eight girl.

[Rob 49]

Hey, not 8A. They about to put you in a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Roaster, boy, you about to go like, oh my God. That's why I had a hurry up.

[Lorna Rose]

Like Lauren said you got a girl. No.

[DJ Envy]

He does. He's talked about it before.

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah. No, but you asked him. Like you ain't know if it was true.

[Just Hilarious]

15Cars is a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I bought a lot of cars.

[Just Hilarious]

What kind of cars though?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me.

[Just Hilarious]

Let me make maybe Priuses, two Escalades.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One Tahoe, a Cuffet, a Hellcat, a G Wagon, a Lincoln. That's a lot of cars. But you don't have.

[Rob 49]

You're about 600 right there. You about between five fifty, six hundred right there.

[Just Hilarious]

That's gonna make sure you ain't rap capping going. If you want me to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I a see the most expensive cars, but everybody got a car.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Car you drive around in.

[Lorna Rose]

But with buffalo wild. When you about to buy houses?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We got a couple houses too. I got a couple houses. My mom been. My mom been getting my real estate. Right.

[DJ Envy]

I was going to ask you how. Cuz you and your mom have really like y' all relationship online and like the videos you post. How does your mom feel about like when you drop songs like Hear me mama and like, you more vulnerable?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be crying, bro.

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause she know everything I'm saying. Facts. So she be like, damn. Like how you. She be asking me sometime how you put that on a beat. Like how you really made our real life on a beat. She be asking me that. She here. You can ask it too.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, she's here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Charlamagne.

[Just Hilarious]

You know you rap about survival and trauma and loyalty. Does success make you soft? Are you just learning to be more vulnerable?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I really was an outgoing person. Cause I always liked helping people. But now I'm on some shit like, man, everybody don't deserve my kindness. So I'm really at the state of my life. Like, man, I really gotta back up from everybody, like, honestly. And not let nobody take your joy. Just be quiet, like. And you save your joy for people who don't deserve it. So that's what I'm on for, like right now. It used to be kind, for real.

[Just Hilarious]

You feel like the city has caught up with you yet?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

New Orleans, like, what?

[Just Hilarious]

Just in general. Cause you blew up. You blew up, you know, pretty quickly, right? Do you feel like they've caught up yet? Like, do they have real love for you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They got real. Bar was the biggest In New Orleans before. I made a song before, I like, made it big. Like a hot song. I just sold out an arena. Like how Jay Z sell out arena here. I sold out an arena in New Orleans by myself, 15,000 people.

[DJ Envy]

When you did the Hot Boys reunion, I was there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, before that.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. But even there, feeling it and being in New Orleans and seeing, I was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, oh, wow, that was cool. It's just like. I wouldn't say that was like. Because they got their own fan base, so they wasn't really turned for me. And it was funny to me.

[DJ Envy]

I felt like that. But maybe. Cause I'm not from there. I felt like it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know, bro, you gotta come to one of my shows. You'll be like, no way. He got this. Like this. I got videos. I show you. Like, this is od. I just felt like the Hot Boys, they like, they got their own little stuff going on. You know what I'm saying?

[Rob 49]

What's your relationship with New Orleans?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I fuck with everybody in New Orleans. Like, I'm really the one in New Orleans.

[Rob 49]

You stay there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you stay there? I can't stay there. If I stay there, it's not gonna be a good idea for me.

[Lorna Rose]

You opened up a lounge called Ness. Nola. Is that in Nola?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's in New Orleans.

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah. Congratulations on that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you so much.

[Lorna Rose]

Where did the name come from, Ness?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Vulture. Vulture. Ness. Just cause I'll be putting like, Vulture on my stuff.

[Lorna Rose]

How often are you there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I used to be going back there a lot, but I just feel like I'm gonna get in trouble. So I just had to, like, back up. For real. Cause I know this already. Like, I know when you're doing good, it's only a matter of time.

[Just Hilarious]

But that's what I mean, right? Like, sometimes your city knows you a big deal, but they don't see your elevation. Like, this ain't 5.9 from 10 years ago. Like, you ain't the little nigga no more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't gonna lie. They definitely see my elevation. Like, everybody see it. Like, I ain't gonna lie. I was elevated before I made it. Like, I'm telling you. Like, my mayor was coming to my shows and stuff. Like, dope. Yeah, for sure. Like, I was already that. Like, ain't like I went down, you know, I like y' all so got you. I was scared. I was scared to do y' all so many times. N. I was scared to do y' all by myself. I was being quiet when Skilla was here, like, for Real, Yeah.

[Lorna Rose]

And then Skilla like to talk a little bit more than you. A lot more than you. What you scared of though?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He, man, just like when I, you know what's funny, bro? I'm gonna say this right here and this is gonna be the craziest moment of my life. I remember sitting in my bed, like, I probably had a thousand followers. I'm like, man, when I make it on a Breakfast Club, that's the day you made it. Rob. Like, just accepted that day. And that's crazy. Like, this is my day.

[Rob 49]

You work for it, you deserve it.

[Just Hilarious]

Absolutely. When you listen back to Let Me Fly five years from now, what do you hope you don't relate to anymore?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, I hope I don't relate to none of it. I just won't. I won't be so out of touch with the world, like, mentally. I'm serious. I don't even wanna be hearing about music no more. Like, I just won't be living my life off instrumentals like in Italy. I'm telling you, like, in six, seven years, I'm about to run this bag up so big. In six, seven years, I won't move to Italy. Probably me and my girl, like, probably have a little house with my mom and them and just be off the grid.

[DJ Envy]

Like no new songs at that point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Probably for fun sometimes. Like, but I ain't trying to make it. Like, I ain't on that.

[Just Hilarious]

Why Italy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I like the water a lot and I don't want nobody to know me. Like, nobody.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, you must have went out there recently, had a good ass time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, I went to London and had a good time. So I was thinking about Italy. You feel what I'm saying? I'm thinking that's further than London. I know that's gonna be crazy. So. Yeah.

[Lorna Rose]

How old are you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

26.

[Lorna Rose]

26, damn, you 26 and you already talking like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I really want to do it now. If I had basketball money, like 3,400 million, I was over, I'm retiring.

[Just Hilarious]

I was over with like, what is it, the fame?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The fame? Nah, it ain't even that. It's just like, brother, I don't like society.

[Just Hilarious]

I'm with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't like society.

[Rob 49]

It's the social media.

[DJ Envy]

You always been like that or this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is because, like, I always been like that. For real. I ain't really like social media and shit. Me being on social media, like, I be feeling like I'm doing goofy shit on social media, all type of shit. When in real life I'm really that nigga. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Cause I don't know how to work it, like too much. Like.

[Lorna Rose]

So, yeah, you just being real. Like, that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You feel me? If I post my one of my niggas tell me I posted in the studio, Me yt B fat and hot boy and lil Shimmy. I was so turned, you know, I laugh and I punch and I be doing all that. One of my niggas, like, man, you can't be doing that on the Internet because you know people are taking it different way. And I'm like, not even that, not even that. Then like, he, he, he just trying to save me because he don't want them to have nothing to say about me, period. And I understood it, but I'm like.

[Rob 49]

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[Lorna Rose]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I just be being me. I be being real, for real. Like this really me, like. But even like, stuff like that make me be like, man, I don't even want to be on the Internet. Like, I fuck around and say something I ain't supposed to say and it's.

[Rob 49]

Like, what does Birdman say to you? I know you got a good relationship with Birdman. Does he guide you? Does he help you at all?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't gonna lie, he just called me yesterday. He like, man, you're doing it right. I'm so proud of you. Like I always knew you was the one. He just told me, order me a chain yesterday. Too rich gang chain.

[Just Hilarious]

I remember last time you was here, you said you was supposed to sign with Birdman, but you didn't do it. Cause you was facing eviction and you needed that money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I needed the money right then and there for sure. But I ain't gonna lie. Even when he always told me I was gonna be the one, he ain't lying.

[DJ Envy]

Have you been in a position to renegotiate the deal that you have and you work with him now, or is it still, like, you have the situation?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm good with the people that believed in me from the jump.

[Lorna Rose]

Did you tell him he was coming up here today?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[Rob 49]

You ever asked him about that or not?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y funny as though. Y funniest, though, man. Damn.

[Just Hilarious]

So when y' all have conversations now, does he ever bring that up? Like, damn, you ain't want to sign with me?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But hell, no, I wanted to sign with him. He knew.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah. You said that was the dream.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I flew to his house and everything. He just. I just needed the money right there. And he understand. Like, he know. Cause I told him, like, so. Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

Was where I'm from a hard record to record. That was another one. You was being vulnerable, huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really? It's just like. I was really just talking that day. I remember that day. I'm happy. I can't like stuff like that. I be happy when I had them type days when it just flew out. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it was. I ain't really thinking too much on that song.

[Just Hilarious]

You talk about your dad being in prison. You talk about losing people close to you. How you haven't been the same since that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not for sure.

[Just Hilarious]

Being looked at as the chosen one from the city, which is a lot of pressure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. Damn.

[Just Hilarious]

People thinking you owe him. Cause you made that boy talking, huh? Yeah, man. You talking about being addicted to pills.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My mom and my daddy was in jail at the same time. I was standing by my cousin Sheika. How old were you, like 12, 13, something like that. And even pills. Like, I used to always tell my friends, like, man, get off them pills, bro. I wound up getting shot and I took a pill. I'm like, man, I just wanted to, but my mind's so strong, I wind up getting off him. But now I can take them whenever I want to, like, you know what I'm saying? Because I don't know. My mind just a little stronger than everybody else's mind.

[Just Hilarious]

On honest, though, you Say I'm taking them drugs for the cold, but I'm trying to stop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah, you forgot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I be taking them though. I be taking them, but that's just when I be feeling like it like. Like when I get on a plane. I do it one time or something like that, but I don't be doing like my nigga do it. Lou Durk brother called me one day on my sleep and was like, stop. I had a bad dream and I just stopped taking him. Like, you feel what I'm saying?

[Just Hilarious]

He said he had a dream that you told me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, he had a bad dream. He told me what happened, but I don't even put it in the atmosphere.

[Just Hilarious]

I'm with you, I'm with you. I'm with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, he told me I just stopped taking him like for like two, three months, like cold turkey.

[Lorna Rose]

What's your relationship with Dirk these days?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't really be talking to Dirk like dude in my. Dude in my bands. My like his, my like whoop, shit like that. I with Dirk Duke too though. I talked to him right before he went to jail. I just be letting have they moment. I ain't one of them like invade somebody privacy like.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, I like what you said about, you know, we're not wanting to speak that type of shit into existence. But on honest you said you don't see yourself growing old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Growing old. I said probably not.

[Just Hilarious]

Okay, probably not, but you planning to. Cause you talking about wanting to move to Italy in four years and you.

[DJ Envy]

Said you want to have kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, no, but I don't know, like if my health, like, I don't know, like you feel what I'm saying? That's for God to say. But how I've been living, I don't know. You feel me? I said probably not. Like that's just how I be feeling sometimes.

[DJ Envy]

You feel like that because things are so good right now or just you just don't know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just. Things going good, but I just seen like my whole family going. I seen things turn. So probably not.

[Lorna Rose]

Is your health like. What do you mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like just like everything. Like, I don't. I'm so used to like, bro, I'mma just keep it a hundred. Like, you know, when you. When you brother. My whole family gone. I didn't watch my whole family die. Like. So this is what I'm just used to mentally. Even though it might be some up to say, like. But that's just. That's just how I think. Like. Like even when I go to Clubs. I think about death all day, like, because so many people done died, like, in front of me, like, you feel what I'm saying? So that's just what I be thinking about.

[Just Hilarious]

But the same way you the chosen one for your city, you the chosen one for your family, because you could be the generational curse breaker.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, for sure. I think I am.

[Lorna Rose]

And then what about any type of therapy? You never thought about sitting down, talking to somebody professionally about your feelings?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man, my girl just told me through that shit. Oh.

[Lorna Rose]

Or if your girl is telling you to do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't feel like I need. It's too much shit. I can't talk to these people about what I be talking about, man, what I be thinking in my head.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes, you can. That's the whole point. If you find the right person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't trust nobody like that.

[Just Hilarious]

If your girl wants you to go, you should go.

[Lorna Rose]

You trust her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think so?

[Just Hilarious]

Yes. Because that means she sees something that you probably don't even see. She probably. She probably see a lot of the unhealed trauma that you trying to, you know, bury put away or rap about.

[DJ Envy]

And she probably see the fan, like, you carry a lot. I'm sure she sees that. She's in the health profession, Right? Or you were going to be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was. I was. I was.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you are going to be. You say it's called blousing. Is that how you say it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blessing.

[DJ Envy]

Blessing. On blessing. You talk about, like your uncle being locked up and taking care of everybody. So I'm sure she's watching all of that too, because then you talk about the pills again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no. She. She. Yeah, definitely. I gotta listen to him. She's smart, too.

[Lorna Rose]

So he's saying this, but he ain't gonna.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I might do. For real. I would just. If I had my phone right here, I would have tasted right now.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, I was gonna call the lady. You, detective, call the lady.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Call this girl. Yeah, I was gonna tell her set it up, is what I'm saying, man. You play all day, he gonna stop.

[Rob 49]

You see why? You see why Birdman did what he did now, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, don't do that, bro.

[Just Hilarious]

I saw you on Million Dollars worth of game with Gillian Wallow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

And you said you pulled up on Young Thug.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, look at. Look at. We gonna. Man, that's one. You see what I'm saying, though? Hell, nah, we ain't gonna do that. You got in trouble for that one, huh? I didn't, but I look at him like, bad move. You feel what I'm saying I ain't get in trouble or nothing. Like, they ain't called me bothered or nothing, like, but in my character, I'm like, bad move for me. Make it disappear. You feel this shit. But for real, though, bro, I'm like, make that shit disappear. For real.

[Just Hilarious]

How do you think Let Me Fly builds on your. Your legacy? Did you try or did you try to burn some of the old version of you down?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, I just. I'm just trying to rap. For real. I want them to know I can rap.

[Lorna Rose]

Long story short, all right, is widebody about fat people?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, that's about a wide body, cuz. Wide as hell. Last thing you thought about.

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah, that's number nine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wide body playing.

[Lorna Rose]

Okay, I didn't know, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You playing. You funny as hell, bro.

[DJ Envy]

You and your. You you talked about on the Poor Mind, Poor Minds podcast that you don't want to be a old dad. Yeah, you so for real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want a kid right now, bro.

[Lorna Rose]

Oh, you mean you don't want to have a baby when you too old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying? I want a kid right now. I want. Walk in and my child got a fight because his mama fine, like. You feel me? And they be like, man, your mama fine, like. Cause she young, like, so you gotta fight like.

[Just Hilarious]

Mac.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Still gonna be fine.

[Rob 49]

Still gonna be fine.

[DJ Envy]

They were trying to do that.

[Rob 49]

Yeah, why not?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta fight.

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah, for his case. He still want to be the young dad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You feel me?

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, what the hell?

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah, you don't. What the hell? So what's stopping you?

[Rob 49]

Condoms.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not even condoms. I'm trying to. If God say the same, boy or.

[DJ Envy]

Girl you want girl, dad, a healthy kid.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I swear to God. Yeah, that's crazy. I ain't used to think like that.

[Just Hilarious]

You never wanted a kid?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just saying, I used to think like, oh, healthy kid, like. Yeah, but I see, like that real, like, healthy kids. That's it. I just want a healthy kid.

[Just Hilarious]

Well, make you want a child now. You know, you always hear women say, I want a kid, I want to kill. What make you feel like you want one right now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just because I didn't dealt with so much loss in my life, I won't build my family back up.

[Just Hilarious]

That's dope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My whole family gone. For real. My mama had four brothers, two sisters, five brothers, two sisters, all of them dead, one of them alive. My uncle, and he in jail. That's it. We all stay in the same house.

[Lorna Rose]

So for that reason that you just said, that's why you have to break the generational curse, you know, you still got. You're still aware, very aware of what happened to your family. You don't want this to happen to you. You got to get out of that mindset. You got to change your mindset, because you're about to. You want to build a family. You know what I'm saying? And you want to have your own family because most of yours is gone. So you can do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I be thinking about moving back to New Orleans for that reason, too, bro. Just. Cause I want. Just like, get a big house. I call Birdman. Like, man, send me your house so my whole family can move in it. But I just know it's a bad move. But as bad as I. I just want my family so bad to go back.

[Lorna Rose]

It's a bad move to go back to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a bad move. Like, yeah, it's a bad move, but I'm.

[Rob 49]

You know, it's a bad move. Don't do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. You feel me, though? Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

You gotta trust me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just asked my little sister, like, you want me to come home? Like, she. Like, hell no. Like.

[Rob 49]

Or move them to where you at?

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, that's the goal. The goal is to get the money to move to where?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, but they don't wanna move. I got the money. They don't come.

[Rob 49]

They comfortable where they at?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They comfortable.

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah, but they want you to stay away, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You feel me?

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

And if your sister. If your family telling you. If your family telling you to stay away, you gotta listen. That's the ancestors talking to. Do you ever express to them the way you expressing it to us now? Like, man, look.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I just told her in the club, it's my family. I wasn't, though. I'm really trying to tell her, like, bro, like, I'm telling you, like, you feel me?

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm a little up, bro. Excuse me.

[Lorna Rose]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

You took a shot before you came in here. Oh, you mean like, just mentally?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, sorry.

[Just Hilarious]

I totally get it. Do you ever feel me, too?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm still up, though, from that night for sure.

[DJ Envy]

Because I'm like, dang, I just messed up the mental health vibe.

[Lorna Rose]

But okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

Even though you're having all the success and you got all of the money, do you ever truly feel not alone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not alone for us? Like, what?

[Just Hilarious]

Cause you say you lost everybody?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. Sometimes, man. Sometimes. A lot of times I do feel alone, though. Damn. We ain't even gotta talk like that.

[Lorna Rose]

We can talk like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not for Real. I'm serious. We ain't about to talk like that. Cause my man, I be trying to keep my shit clean. Like, my head. You know what I'm saying?

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah. And then your girl going to be like, you feel alone, motherfucker?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, she about the only one that me. Like, if I ever lose, like, I'm gonna. That's gonna be the end of it. Like, I'm gonna just be like, for a fool, like, out here. You feel me?

[Just Hilarious]

What's your relationship? You and G herbo Relationship?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my brother. That's my brother for sure. That's my real brother. He. He a real fan of me, too.

[Just Hilarious]

I heard you say that G Herbo was your favorite rapper.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, him Kerr, like. Yeah, them was my favorite. Right?

[DJ Envy]

Kerr from Philly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kerr from Philly.

[DJ Envy]

I like him, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's my thought.

[Just Hilarious]

Y' all really doing an album together, you and album?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We supposed to drop it like, next month.

[Just Hilarious]

Ghetto Poise, huh? It's called Ghetto.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ghetto Poi. Neighborhood superstar, Something like that.

[Rob 49]

It's done already.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

90%. I told him I won't lock in for like, one more week. Yeah, but it's that for sure.

[Lorna Rose]

So you just dropped this album. You're working on a duo album, and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then I'm working on two duo albums. One called Youngest in Charge. Like, with all the young, like, right now, like, Hancho hot boy wants to be felt. Shimmy. We. That's the Youngest In Charge album. I'm working on the one with Herb, and I'm working on my own called Life of the Party.

[Lorna Rose]

So is that why you push? You really setting up for retiring? Like, you pushing out so much? Is that why you pushing out so much music at once?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I don't want to play.

[DJ Envy]

We definitely need that. All the young ones, we need that for the summer.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it's going to be bullshit music. It's going to be crazy. For sure.

[Just Hilarious]

I know Herb will be trying to get you to go to therapy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cuz her I ain't a lot. He. He on the same time me. He he one of the only I'll be talking to with, like, some sense, like, you feel me? Hell, yeah, for sure.

[Just Hilarious]

Herb done can't I do this thing called the Mental Welfare Expo every year. Herbo done came to that and spoke to the people and everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Put me down. I come there for sure. I'm serious. That's your. Yeah, I'm coming.

[DJ Envy]

I do whatever you want to come to speak or just to learn it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whatever he want me to do.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Just Hilarious]

It's interesting, right? Because, you know, I hear you talking to interviews. Ever a moment in the studio where you gotta stop recording because you might be breaking down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hell no.

[Just Hilarious]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what happens is it happened already. Like, but I'd be. I stopping be. I'd probably stop. Stop her while he recorded. Be like, you talking your. Like, I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna be on you. I ain't gonna. You know what I'm saying? Blaze you nothing, man.

[Just Hilarious]

That ain't blazing to tell your brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he know I do him. That I'd be like, as you know, you the greatest rapper alive. But go ahead, finish recording. Like, actually, we gonna tell you like I do him that every time we're in the studio. Like, no way. You just came up with that.

[Lorna Rose]

I think it's out there when other, you know, male rappers can tell. Like, you just said Meek hit you and say, yo, I know you was coming like that. You know, I think that's n. For sure. Yeah. We getting a tour?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, for sure we gonna get a tour. I was thinking about they wanted me going like a big tour, but I think I wanna go on my own little small tour.

[Lorna Rose]

You know why a little small?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just cause I want people who like crazy fans of me.

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah.

[Rob 49]

Connect with them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like they got 30 minutes to get these tickets. You feel what I'm saying? And I don't care if it's 500 people. I just want them to be like, out. They shit, they sell me like, yeah.

[Lorna Rose]

A pop out tour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I don't know. But that's what I. That's the type shit I'm on. Like, I ain't trying to be the biggest rapper. I just want to get this money, like, and just get out of the way. But I do want to see my fans before I like, be like, all right, I'm done.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, yeah, you want it to be intimate so you can have like a real connection.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You feel me?

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Something like that.

[Just Hilarious]

What's a song, you know, that you've written or even just a song or bar on this new album that you wrote when you were hurt, but when you perform it now you feel healed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

None of it, brother. I don't think I heard from. None of it. I'm ready to perform it just so I could just feel it in my soul. You feel what I'm saying? I won't perform it without no lyrics on it. However I want. You feel me?

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah, it's a different.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, something like that.

[Just Hilarious]

So you might perform it and then feel it in that moment, like, oh, shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Like, damn. Like, I'm saying this, like, and I'm saying it how I want, I don't know, live music a little better than regular music. To me, I don't listen to regular music. I listen to live music. Like the SZA live, the Lauryn Hill live, and stuff like that.

[Just Hilarious]

You think you could ever do Hit Me, Mama Live?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't wait to do it live.

[Lorna Rose]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was calling my label to let me do it live. Like, in the Garden. In a garden with a band, Something like that. That should be crazy. Why the Garden would be crazy like a garden?

[DJ Envy]

It's the aesthetic.

[Just Hilarious]

Oh, I thought you meant, like Madison Square Garden. I'm like, why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God? It's too much with that. We ain't there yet.

[Just Hilarious]

You never know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, they probably let me. Nah, hell, not right now.

[Just Hilarious]

You can feel the theater.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not right now.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, you could do the theater.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm saying they ain't gonna let me do nothing in the Garden right now with the paces. Oh, wow. Damn. They don't care.

[Rob 49]

I'm sure they want their money.

[Just Hilarious]

Do you want to be remembered as a. As a great rapper, a street legend, or somebody who made it out and gave the blueprint.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blueprint all day? You know, it's funny. Like, I used to be. I used to look at Thug. I looked at Thug. I think that was an Elliot Wilson interview way before I even made anything. I was on my way to school, looking at it, and then was like, man, you gotta teach what's taught. And that's how I live. Like, that's how I live my life. Like, I feel like that was the realest shit he ever said. Like, for real now.

[Rob 49]

One time you said, you're not a rapper. You a hustler. Did that change now? But you're rapping now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Rapping is hustling. That's why I'm here right now. And I ain't getting no sleep yet. Shit. A hustle. You feel me? For real.

[DJ Envy]

People talk a lot about, like, your business, Ackerman. Like, you understanding the business and doing your own business. Where does that come from? Is that Mama Four Nine or a cruise?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's me. I just don't. I know how to get some money. I was a hustler in high school. I was selling weed before my mama knew. So I always had the mentality to get some money for myself. I'd just be structuring it, right? That's it. I'm a little thinker, so that's probably it.

[Rob 49]

What's the biggest misconception about RA4.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now I'm a TikTok rapper. He be playing with that shit.

[Just Hilarious]

You would think that.

[DJ Envy]

I don't think, because his songs are so big on TikTok.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. But that's not my fault, y' all. Yeah, that's just where you heard me at.

[DJ Envy]

What the hell? He is number one on the TikTok music charts. But even before they get to the charts and all that, like, I be on your songs. Take over, TikTok. It's the energy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's your fault. That's y' all fault.

[Lorna Rose]

TikTok and then GQ. That's our fault. That's your fault. You making it. And then GQ named you the most rap's most viral hitmaker.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, for sure. Yeah, I think that makes sense.

[Lorna Rose]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even though that's crazy to me, because I don't feel like I'm near as where I want to be in life. Like, this is like 2%, like 3%, but I don't. I want to get to the 100, but it's like, man, I'm low key, tired of this shit. All the mixing mingles and bad energies out here. Like, I don't want none of that, man.

[Just Hilarious]

You don't gotta do it.

[Lorna Rose]

So if you could, you could be like a kid.

[DJ Envy]

The best thing he ever told me. I'll be saying no to something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ain't gotta do it. You know what's funny about don't let.

[Just Hilarious]

The label lie to you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I came here, I thought I was just doing yachty. Like, man, you gotta. Man, listen, I don't want none of that shit. I already feel like I be saying too much.

[Lorna Rose]

Like, you feel me and don't be saying shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Real talk. But even that, like, I feel like that's too much. Like, for real, man.

[DJ Envy]

They do speak in parables a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like that shit just. I don't know, bro. I be feeling like I'm saying too much.

[Lorna Rose]

So if you could, you would be like a Kendrick. You know, he pop out every so often and he go back in here. You never see him doing no interviews. This is the most that we've ever seen him, you know, after, you know, that beef with Kendra. I mean, with Drake. Yeah, he. The Super Bowl. I felt like we was only seeing him do interviews and stuff like that because of the super bowl and the new album and everything, but.

[Just Hilarious]

And he's still only talking through his.

[Lorna Rose]

Music and that's it.

[Rob 49]

Maybe he did one Apple Music or something.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Lorna Rose]

One Apple Music interview. That's it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My dream career is, like, you a great artist. You got millions of fans. You can sell out arena when you want to, and you make good music to where everybody's just gonna listen to when you drop it. And you ain't gotta be in no mix. Like, when you go to the arena, you go back and it's two of y' all. This could be two of your friends in the arena while you go perform in front of all these people. Like, that's my dream career.

[Lorna Rose]

That's what success is to you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what that would be. Just calm, chill. Like, sometimes I won't get ratchet. Like, but not all the time.

[Lorna Rose]

Not. Cause you have to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You feel what I'm saying? Not. Cause I have to. Exactly.

[Just Hilarious]

You're not too far from that, though. From that life. If you think about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I definitely am, bro.

[Just Hilarious]

Man, think about where you went.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause I have to get ratchet. Because they know Ralph 49 is like, Bro, that dude gonna bring the vibes. Like, but you could do both.

[Just Hilarious]

And that's actually what a great artist is like. If I can listen to a song like, Hear Me, Mama, Honest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think so?

[DJ Envy]

I feel like Meek is a good person to talk to about that, too, because his songs, that was, like, for the hood and, like, hype and people would consider Ratchet, it turned into energy music, and football teams grabbed in it. You know what I mean? Like, he made that transition so well, and that. That's where I see your stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So.

[Just Hilarious]

So just the crazy part is, though, you got people you can talk to about that. Like, juvenile people. One of the biggest rappers in the world. Yes. Birdman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I could talk to you, Wayne. I could talk to you.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, there's superstars from New Orleans. Like, absolutely. He like, these are superstars, like, internationally.

[DJ Envy]

Known superstars and generations are living off of their songs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm going to tell you something. I be trying not to do that because I'm so, like, mentally hidden. Want somebody to tell me one little bitty thing. I don't like. I don't like you for life. So I try not to even. You feel what I'm saying? Put y' all in that position to give me no bad advice. Give me, like, you feel me? Like, I try not to even do that, bro. Cause I just hold grudges. That's it.

[Just Hilarious]

Like, what do you mean? Like, what if they tell you something?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, if they tell me something and if I get a little vibe and they be like, oh, couldn't and then I feel like you just telling me anything. Be like, I'm never calling you again.

[Rob 49]

But they could be doing it out of love. Like your man told you, don't do this in the video. And you ain't taking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not even that. Like, when they be like, yeah, young, just keep hustling. I just ask you a deep. I just ask you a deep ass question. You play on my intelligence. I got you. You feel me?

[Rob 49]

Last question. What do you tell, like, the younger artists coming up right now, right? Came from a fucked up situation like yours, but made it out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What would you tell them, man, keep going, bro.

[Rob 49]

You just told him that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't say no. I'm about to tell you. You ain't let me finish. Don't look at. Keep going. Don't look at none of the negative comments that people posting about you. Look at the positive ones. Don't listen to nobody saying, you da, da, da, da, man. Look at all the positive out of every situation. Every situation is a gym. So that's what I mean by keep going. Because I let people in my ear and made me feel like I couldn't keep going. Like, I had to stop for. I ain't dropping two years. Like, I ain't dropped since my mind. That was two years ago. And then I dropped with the heli. And then it just went like, I should have been doing that. Like. Cause I had. With the helly when I had my mind. Like, maybe it would have been bigger. Like, so shit like that. So, like, yeah, just keep.

[Just Hilarious]

You drive yourself crazy thinking like that, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know.

[Just Hilarious]

Cause everything happened in God's time.

[Rob 49]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. That's what made me drop what the hell in shit, too. I'm like, man, God, if God picket, he do.

[Just Hilarious]

You taught God in your music. So this is my last question for you. What's fueling you more now? Is it prayer or pressure?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Prayer. Prayer. Prayer is fueling me. Like, God fuels me. I asked him to not give me what is called free will. I ask for no free will. I ask him to take control of my life. So that's it. That's a.

[Just Hilarious]

That's a great way to be.

[Lorna Rose]

No more questions because y' all, he already said I, like, 18 times. I don't like talking to people. And he's. That's a sign. Hell out of here.

[Rob 49]

Rob 49, ladies and gentlemen, Let me fly. It's streaming right now. Pick it up. And we appreciate you for joining.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I appreciate y' all, brother. I mean.

[Rob 49]

All right, bro. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Just Hilarious]

Wake that ass up early in the morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

This is an iHeart podcast.