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Roxy Diaz
And I'm Caitlin Murray.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
Terrence J
The Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious Charlamagne Tha God We Are the Breakfast Club. Lon LaRosa's in the building as well. And we got some special guests in the building.
AJ Calloway
Yes, indeed.
DJ Envy
We got some family. We got Roxy Diaz.
AJ Calloway
This is people's childhood in here.
DJ Envy
We got Terrence J.
Justina Valentine
Yes. I'm so excited.
DJ Envy
We got the other guy aj. You know aj.
Charlamagne Tha God
Shout out to Hampton Institute.
DJ Envy
Oh, man.
AJ Calloway
Damn. This is all my family.
DJ Envy
I'm just joking.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is all my family.
DJ Envy
We got AJ rocks and ter. Welcome, guys.
Terrence J
What up?
Roxy Diaz
Good, good.
DJ Envy
106 in park. You guys were our childhood, our adult life growing up.
Angela Yee
Definitely mine. I'm so excited. Happy. Does it feel like it's been that long?
Charlamagne Tha God
He's older than us.
Justina Valentine
I know.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's talking about our childhood.
AJ Calloway
People's childhood as hell. When Free and AJ was on TV 2000.
DJ Envy
Okay. Well, I was growing.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, that happens all the time. I'm in the store and people got walkers, and they're like, yo, I grew up watching you. I was like, you were grown.
Justina Valentine
Especially cuz y' all were connected to some of our favorite artists. And a lot of people saw them in different ways. For the first time with you guys, I skipped school to come. Remember y' all used to have the line where you would line up to get in? It was like first come, first serve. I skipped school in Delaware. I got on the bus to New York to come and watch 106 in the park. You know, I got there, and y' all wasn't even filming that day. Crazy. And I got home and got my behind with Choi.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
Roxy Diaz
So breaking news. We were live every day.
Justina Valentine
As a kid, I didn't know that. I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to 106 apart.
Roxy Diaz
Like, aw.
Justina Valentine
Yeah.
AJ Calloway
But y' all are celebrating 25 years.
Roxy Diaz
Wow.
AJ Calloway
With a reunion at the BET Awards.
Roxy Diaz
Yes.
AJ Calloway
What's that gonna look like?
Terrence J
It's gonna be special. It's gonna be beautiful. I don't think all four of us have been in the same room, maybe in the same.
Roxy Diaz
Free couldn't make it. She really, really wanted to be here, but. But she couldn't make it. I talked to her, and she sends her love to everybody, and she cannot wait to see everybody for the BET Award, so she can't wait.
Terrence J
So it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be great.
DJ Envy
People always say, what era was better, the Free and AJ era or the Roxy and Terrence J era? I'm just. I'm just curious.
Charlamagne Tha God
What are you talking about?
Terrence J
Free, aj. Free and ERA was iconic.
Charlamagne Tha God
They were all longer than us.
Terrence J
Listen, you gotta.
AJ Calloway
And they held it down.
Terrence J
So. So in order to understand 106, you gotta understand 10. Technology and communication. Right. The world was changing from 2000 to 2014. All this new technology, you know, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube and all of these things. Yeah. Were.
Roxy Diaz
Were.
Terrence J
Were coming on the scene. And so 106 and park was the global hub for all of this. Right when they started, if you needed to see the number one video in the world, you had to go to BET's 106 and park the new artist. 106 and park the new. The breaking stories. 106 and park. Sports, fashion, technology, everything. 106 and park was the hub for it.
Roxy Diaz
Yeah. And so there wouldn't be what we were without Free and AJ at the end of the day. So, you know, we always tell them like, they're the originals. They're the OGs. I don't. You know, I think different generations grew up with different hosts, and so everybody likes to pick favorites. But when it comes to all of the hosts together, we just know that we're part of this amazing family that, you know, was able to be such an influence on the culture that, you know, to this day, to be honest with you, to this day, I still get more people that, like, are from the 106 and park family that are now our A list celebrities and stars that come up here, you know, because of those connections from then that, you know, they still. They stick with you for so long. So we're just so appreciative of the foundation that we were able to come from and build with.
AJ Calloway
And there was no platform for black and brown people, especially not a prime time when that was getting numbered.
DJ Envy
Not at all.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, not at all. Back then. And there was. It was crazy because we honestly didn't know what we were creating. You know, I was a club promoter. I was throwing parties. And every. You, come on.
AJ Calloway
You've been in. Yes.
Justina Valentine
He would sit up here and criticize. Well, really me about being out. And he. Let's act like he needed.
Charlamagne Tha God
He was outside. I used to have Wendy host. Oh, my God. What is my Wednesday night at Cheetah when Kevin used to come.
Justina Valentine
Cheetah in Atlanta?
AJ Calloway
No, that was before my time.
DJ Envy
Yeah. You know, that infamous picture was actually taken at one of your clubs.
AJ Calloway
Man. That was not. I was out. I was at the radio station.
DJ Envy
That's when Charlemagne was sitting on Wendy's lap. Was at Wendy's.
AJ Calloway
What about the 106 park host? This morning you were sitting on Clue lap in the DJ Boo.
Roxy Diaz
So the BET Award. No, wait.
Justina Valentine
I didn't know you were a promoter. So you were a promoter. I had no idea.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. And then was mine for a long time.
Justina Valentine
And then. Okay, so from promoter here in New York, 106 and Park D.C. yeah. Because of Howard.
Charlamagne Tha God
So what happened was BET was looking for a host at that time. They already knew. Well, Free was already picked. And actually shout out to George Daniels. George Daniels. George's music room. He introduced me to BET executives, and I took them around, and that's how it all happened. Took them to a couple of the parties, and then they had me audition, and literally, like three weeks later, I was on live television. Green. Crazy.
DJ Envy
How difficult was it for you? Cause you didn't have any history in that.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, not at all. Not at all. I mean, it was crazy. I mean, I was getting a lot of hate you had. I can't even remember their names. The morning shows were coming after me. I remember it was nuts. But honestly.
AJ Calloway
They used to call you the Predator?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, but honestly, I got to give it up for Stephen Hill because he had my back. And then, long story short, the same dude that was talking out of that mess, I ended up running into him at the Garden, and he's like, you know what's all fun and games? Will you manage me?
Terrence J
Wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I was like, aren't you the same? And what happened was BET had just put a big spend with them, but they were like. They had a commercial to get me fired off the show.
Angela Yee
Damn.
AJ Calloway
Oh, I didn't know.
DJ Envy
I remember that.
Charlamagne Tha God
It was crazy.
DJ Envy
But anyway, I took care of that for you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Light work.
DJ Envy
We'll talk about that later.
AJ Calloway
Thank you.
Roxy Diaz
Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
DJ Envy took care of that.
AJ Calloway
I googled. I died.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, but there's. But to answer the question, to go back to this question, there's no competition. There's no. I mean, honestly, these two people right here held it down for a longer time and with a lot of pressure on them. So to be able to do that and to hold it down with style and grace, gotta, like, take my hat off to them.
Terrence J
Yeah.
AJ Calloway
How seamless did Free and AJ make the transition process?
Charlamagne Tha God
We were gone.
Terrence J
So, yeah, there was a period. They were already gone. But Tigger and Jaleesa were super gracious and mad links, and everybody that was, you know, around at that time were. Were. Were gracious and. But it was challenging. You know, we stepped into these iconic shoes with people that we grew up watching. So there was a lot of initial hate. And.
Roxy Diaz
And we came from nowhere because we were part of a new face search, you know, a competition, a, you know, challenge. So it was like Terence and I really leaned on each other because we both knew that nobody understood the. What we were going through more than each other because we never had done television before. I came from a radio Background. And he did radio as well. But, you know, like, we won a contest to host the biggest show on a network, and that was a big deal.
Terrence J
Everybody and their mama wanted to thousands of dollars of student debt to pay back from. From North Carolina T. And was sleeping on Fred's couch at the time down in his basement.
Justina Valentine
And.
Terrence J
And so we were sleeping in the car. We were just trying to hustle to make it. And we just had this dream and ambition. And so to see the show go to where it went and to be a part, you know, we were a part of all these iconic moments, all of us, right from when Michael Jackson passed to when Barack was a senator, when Obama was a senator, you know, all of these landmark things.
Charlamagne Tha God
Process.
Roxy Diaz
Madonna tried to make out with you.
Justina Valentine
Madonna tried to make out it was gonna be me.
Roxy Diaz
Madonna tried to make out with Terence.
Terrence J
And it became horrible. So anywhere we went, Aaliyah, you know, Kobe Bryant, like, all these.
Roxy Diaz
We've had moment moments.
Angela Yee
Yeah, I want all of the blind, furry moments.
DJ Envy
I don't care.
Justina Valentine
I was about to say what happened to, like, are y' all still watching those people who used to come through the free freestyle Friday movement? And like, like, what. Where are they at now?
Charlamagne Tha God
I like Jin. I've contacted him on. On social media and stuff. And he's big in China.
DJ Envy
He had us recently. Jin.
AJ Calloway
Yeah.
Terrence J
You know, a lot of these artists are still doing it. And then a lot of these, you know, people that will come on the show turns into DJ Khaled, you know, like, IT Hub, where different DJs, different music personalities, dance competitions that pro. Like, everybody would just come to 106.
AJ Calloway
When y' all left the show. AJ, did BET even tell y' all. Did y' all find out on MySpace, like, or in the block? Everybody wants to know, like, we did.
Justina Valentine
She said, yeah, cuz I. Cuz from what I read, leaving the show was you. There was behind the scenes. Like, you felt like creatively things weren't right.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm turning around at bt, like, online.
Justina Valentine
It was our decision stuff. It was creatively. But why?
AJ Calloway
Yeah, why?
Charlamagne Tha God
It was time. I mean, back to. Nah, it was time. I'll just say that. Or can I say, wait, maybe there's a book coming out. I don't know. Possibly.
Justina Valentine
So we'll finally get the answer.
Charlamagne Tha God
Maybe. I mean, the answer was it was time. For me personally, it was time. I made the decision honestly, that evening. It was my last contractual day. And yeah, I walked in the. You know how they do prep office. I walked in the office all the producers were there. I was like, it's my last day. Whatever. We're prepping. It ain't going to work. And they thought I was playing because I played all the time. And that was actually my last day. And it was crazy because I still remember Mariah Carey. Shake it off was like the new joint of the day.
Roxy Diaz
That's crazy.
Charlamagne Tha God
And that's when I was like, I'm making the right decision.
AJ Calloway
Did you infree playing at the end? Okay.
DJ Envy
That means no.
AJ Calloway
Got you. Gotcha.
Roxy Diaz
Can I say something really quick about Free, though? Because you guys asked the question about the transition. Free. Free has always been that the a girl's girl. And she reached out to me because she knew. She was like, okay, girl, there's the curse of the couch.
Terrence J
Amazing.
Roxy Diaz
And this is what's gonna happen, and this is what you're gonna go through. And Free handheld. My. She. She held my hand through a lot of stuff that went there, so. So nobody get. And. And all of the. The girls, we're all close, but, like, the women of 106 and park have always kept in touch. And, like, to this day, I mean, Juliece and I just went on vacation. Keisha, Shantae and I go to the same nail salon and, you know, see each other. Me and Free talk all the time. So I love Free just for. For. For. For reference on that. Like, kudos to Free because she really, really, really looked out for all the girls and for us. She always calls us Free Angel. She's like, y' all are my girls. I'm like, all right, Free. But. But, you know, she just. She really is a girls girl and really, really, really looked out. I mean, even to, like, who the best hair makeup person was at one, like, those things that you don't know, you know, especially when you're not on tv, you don't know these things. So she. Yeah. Shout out to Free.
AJ Calloway
How long did it take y' all to get chemistry, like, between y' all, you and Free AJ and also between you and Terence Roxy?
Roxy Diaz
Ours was kind of instant. Again, we came in through new faces, so we came in through a whole different Roxy's.
Terrence J
Roxy's really easy to work with in that way, though, you know, it was seamless. So. And again, it was that the world was just different, and we were so hungry to just be able to pay our rents on time and just be able to, you know, do these interviews. And so, yeah, we were having fun. Our life was changing. We were in our 20s. It was. It was great. It was a Great time when I look back at it.
Roxy Diaz
Yeah, it was fun. No, no, I, like, it was, again, like, Terrence and I were a different situation because there really didn't have to be a chemistry test. We were so happy to get the show. And, like, I remember when we had the phone call with Stephen, and he was like, so y' all are the host? And we're like, wait, what? And I had the worst audition process that whole week. Like, it was terrible. So the fact that he even got to where it was, but.
Angela Yee
So you didn't even know you had. You didn't even think that you had it after auditioning?
Roxy Diaz
Not at all. Well, when we. Because it was like 10 of us that did New Faces, and then they picked five to stay on the network. So even to have made it to the five, I was just like, what?
Angela Yee
Yeah.
Roxy Diaz
Like, you know, this is crazy.
Terrence J
Always been a blessing.
Roxy Diaz
Yeah.
Terrence J
I mean, we grew up watching, you.
Roxy Diaz
Know, you never thought. We didn't even know that that was up for grabs. We didn't know that they were looking for the new host of 106. We had no idea Tinker and Jaleesa were doing the thing.
AJ Calloway
Also, when it was. When it was you, Terrence, Alicia, Renee, Lamorne and Jaleesa, they just said Jaleesa.
Roxy Diaz
Wasn'T part of New Faces.
Terrence J
She was already on.
Charlamagne Tha God
She was already on the big tigger right after us.
Roxy Diaz
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because they had to, like, literally that next day, they had to figure it out because I was not supposed to leave when I left.
Terrence J
Shay Ming.
Roxy Diaz
Shout out to Shay Ming. Shaming. Shaming.
AJ Calloway
I don't remember. Shay Ming. God bless.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't remember one thing I got to say about both of them, but.
AJ Calloway
You in freeze chemistry. How did y' all develop?
Charlamagne Tha God
Just. I mean, it happened from the first time we did, like, a test interview till the first time we were on show. I mean, honestly. And then the first guest, Busta Rhymes, was.
Roxy Diaz
Oh, that's awesome.
Charlamagne Tha God
It was. You know, it was a lot of fun when it. When it really clicked, I think, honestly, was they surprised us with Whitney and Bobby. Like, we had. We were doing a read, and they had Whitney and Bobby walk out behind us without telling us.
Angela Yee
Wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
And it was. It was crazy because Bobby's from Boston and Whitney's from Jersey. So it was like. It was just like a crazy, amazing moment. And it was just like, okay, we're doing something. Because we didn't, like. It was. It was crazy. We were up on 106 park, and, you know, if you've ever been in Metropolis Studios. It's just. It was different.
AJ Calloway
I never felt like y' all was hosting a show, which was a good thing.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, to me, I felt like I was hosting a party. I hosted a party every day for people at home.
Terrence J
I went back, I watched your first break on air, and it was good. From the beginning. Like, from the.
Charlamagne Tha God
You were horrible.
Terrence J
No, no, no. The initial break, at least, I was. It's on Free's IG page. It was like. Just had a thing about it. And. And like I said earlier, there was just a global connection that was happening at this time, right? You got kids from Japan, you got kids from London coming to Harlem coming to. To. To 57th and 10th to see this show, and, you know, these stories from Delaware driving down, it was just all connecting. And then it birthed so many different things. So now when I meet, you know, speedy Mormon, or I'm sitting down with Pretty Vee, and they're telling me, hey, we were watching you and Roxy growing up, or we were watching AJ And Free. It's like. It's so amazing that it's just transcended time. And so many people have been able to build careers and do creative things and make money and feed their families off of this show. We had amazing producers, amazing people behind the scenes, working hard every day to make it happen, and we had the best fans in the world. That was the best part, was, y'.
DJ Envy
All remember your first guest? Cause he said Busta Rhymes was his. Do y' all remember your first guest?
Terrence J
I feel like it's busting rhymes, too. Jamie Foxx, Janet Jackson.
DJ Envy
Jesus.
Terrence J
I was sleeping on the couch. I didn't have an apartment in New York yet, so I was still damn near homeless when I interviewed Janet Jackson that day. And I remember, like, me and Roxy, our dressing rooms were right there. We was like. We were just so nervous, and it just. You know, we still can't believe that we're.
Roxy Diaz
Everything happened so fast. We literally got the call, and then it was like, you guys have to be in New York and, like, not even, like, with two weeks move. And I'm on radio in Chicago at the time, and I'm like, I gotta move my whole entire life. Like, this is happening, and this is happening fast.
DJ Envy
They let you quit Chicago Raiders?
Roxy Diaz
No, I started doing. I was doing my radio show from a studio at. At the 57th and 11th studios. So they gave me a radio room, and so I was broadcasting. I would do hair, makeup, go down, tape my midday show for Chicago, go back up, do 106, and park, go back down, tape more show. Like I was pre taping a lot of shows and then we would do. And then so many things started happening in between 106 and park. Then we had 106 and park radio. So we would tape that in between 106 tapings and stuff like that. So.
Charlamagne Tha God
So yeah, they worked, yo.
Terrence J
Yeah.
AJ Calloway
No, they did.
Terrence J
Yeah. Finish didn't exist.
Roxy Diaz
Yeah. Yeah.
Terrence J
You know, so when we look at all, all four of you are. Are doing such amazing things and. And the diversification of your brands is. Is. It's phenomenal at that stage. It wasn't like.
Roxy Diaz
It wasn't like that.
AJ Calloway
You remember it.
Charlamagne Tha God
The conversation I had with you when you started, I told you to diversify, do all the stuff.
Terrence J
Yes, you did. Yes, you did. You were always very, you know, gracious and very, you know, the way you passed the torch, you take like every. Like it was. It was a lot of.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, he took it to another level, tj.
DJ Envy
Absolutely. You know, he hustles.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, honestly, because I remember the conversation privately. I've said this to you and I'm saying it publicly. Like you literally took it to another level. And that is a beautiful thing because it opens up for so many people. And I know you, you know, you walk the street and people are like, I'm in. I'm in news because of you. I'm in entertainment because of you. You know what? That show did probably the craziest thing, and it's actually happened more than once. I had a guy come up to me and literally almost break down in tears and say he's alive because of 106.
AJ Calloway
Damn.
Charlamagne Tha God
What? I'm told that he said, no, no, no. Honestly, he was like, he. He wanted to be inside to watch 106 and all of his friends were on the corner and they shot up the corner and killed all of his friends. So literally every one of his friends died.
DJ Envy
That's crazy.
Charlamagne Tha God
He was like, I'm the only one alive. Wow, wow, wow. So just the impact of bringing kids inside.
Roxy Diaz
That's true.
Charlamagne Tha God
From the. You know, cuz the streets are crazy at times.
Justina Valentine
Everybody to sit down and watch it.
AJ Calloway
I. I looked up a television.
Justina Valentine
That's funny to think about 600, 600,000 views per episode on minimum you guys were having during AJ and free on 106 in the park. According to Google. That's a lot of people sitting at one time.
AJ Calloway
And you had to watch it because there wasn't no Internet. So you.
Charlamagne Tha God
There was no social media. There's no Internet. There wasn't like, you know, TiVo and all that stuff really was crazy. The commercial. I forget who made the commercial. I love to remember because the kids were dropping the bikes like 106 apartment going on.
Angela Yee
So when I was in elementary school, we used to play. They used to play it for us in the cafeteria on a projector. Like, you know, you hear, like, Jim would be everybody's favorite. N. Lunch was everybody's favorite period. Because we used to watch 106 and park and eat our food. Well, I never eat the food. It was trash. But 106 and park was cafeteria time. Lunchtime every day.
AJ Calloway
That explains so much about Baltimore. That's what they was teaching. Yeah.
Roxy Diaz
We go, listen.
Charlamagne Tha God
And in prison.
Roxy Diaz
Oh, my God.
Charlamagne Tha God
Prisons, you can't the.
Roxy Diaz
There was crazy jail mail so much you couldn't shout out to everybody who wrote to me. When they was locked up.
DJ Envy
We used to get crazy jail, man. We still do like that.
Roxy Diaz
Are you jealous you don't get no more jail?
AJ Calloway
Guy drew a picture of Envy naked.
Charlamagne Tha God
I got questions.
DJ Envy
I hope he's still knocked out, because.
AJ Calloway
Now I know he's probably coming to see me.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm gonna give y' all a crazy, honest story. Debra Lee. I was at an event. Debra Lee was there. Martha Stewart was there. I shouldn't be telling this story. And Deborah wanted to be Margaret.
Roxy Diaz
He goes on, Deborah wanted to be Martha.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I had, you know, interviewed Martha on Extra a couple times. And I was like, I know Martha.
Terrence J
She's super cool.
Charlamagne Tha God
So I brought her over and I was like, Deborah Lee. Just Martha Stewart. And Martha was like, oh, my God, I love Bet. When I was locked up, that's all I could watch. She was like, Rap City 106 of, like, comic View. She, like, never almost fell. It was. It was. It was in a hilarious moment.
Justina Valentine
It was a hilarious y' all deal with. Cuz I was just saying before y' all came in after 106 and park, the only other place I can think of that has those cultural moments that people remember, good or bad, is Breakfast Club. But now.
Terrence J
Now.
AJ Calloway
You got a job.
Justina Valentine
Thank you, but no.
Roxy Diaz
You. You guys really are like. Everybody's always like, 106. 1. It's like the Breakfast Club is the. Is what. That's what y' all are right now. It was you guys, just FYI.
Charlamagne Tha God
Culture, highlighting, definitely highlighting us unfilteredly is something that I don't think America has a lot of right now. And you all do it in a great way.
AJ Calloway
Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good chemistry.
Justina Valentine
No, I brought that up because I Was saying we. Now we got the Internet. So it's like, when moments happen here, it's super huge with y' all. It was happening on tv, but then, like, turn your TV off, you go home. Or did you. What. Or not, Right? How did y' all handle those moments? Like, I know there was, like, the Webby thing that happened. Roxy, Terence, y' all, you walking off stage. Roxy, y' all here together. Now, we would love to hear about that as well, but handling those protects.
Roxy Diaz
Me at all costs, and that's what I'm gonna say. And I'll protect him as at all costs. And. And I don't like. I don't like bringing up anything that was like, that's not what I want to remember from the show, because that's not even worth our time right now. The show was more about celebration than it was about drama. So those 360 days or whatever, because we were a 365 show, you know, it was always. There's always things that would happen. But if there's one thing that I could say about this man right here is that he protected me, you know, at all costs.
Terrence J
Listen, you know, it's such a celebration now. Right? And when. When you bring up any of those things, it's all love. It's all love.
Roxy Diaz
And there's no hate. And there's, like. There's no beef now. Like, there never was back then, either.
AJ Calloway
Yeah, there was no beef.
Justina Valentine
When I. When I saw the report, not. Well, in looking at it now as a person that's doing this, and I saw the Webby thing, my first thought was, whatever happened, it had to be a protection thing on that. On your. On whatever part. And the reason why I brought it up is because I think people don't understand. Like, you said, you were sleeping on the couch and you got the job. You work in a radio, and then, boom, everything happened.
Roxy Diaz
Yeah.
Justina Valentine
In real time, you just have to adjust to being in front of everybody and figuring that out in front of a live audience. In front of a live audience, that had to be tough. So when I'm seeing, you know, what I perceived as a protection thing, and you kind of just said that.
Roxy Diaz
Yeah.
Justina Valentine
In front of the world. I don't know. How did you guys. Mentally. How are you dealing with that at the time? Because y' all are kids, too.
Terrence J
Yeah, look, we'll pivot out, but listen.
Roxy Diaz
Yeah.
Terrence J
For me, Rox, like, it was. Yeah. Anything that had to do with Roxy was always protection thing. But shout outs to Webby, it's love. Man, this has been, you know, decades. We're all adults. We were growing up live on television daily. Our level of emotional intelligence, our growth as human beings, what we were dealing with, it was we were literally growing up in front of everybody's eyes. So obviously we made mistakes. Obviously there's growing pains, there's things that we learned. But when we look back, it was this beautiful journey in time, this beautiful thing that we got to celebrate together. When Scott Mills and the team said.
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Roxy Diaz
And I'm Caitlin Murray.
Emily Tish Sussman
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Roxy Diaz
Yes. Will I always be me? Yeah.
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Roxy Diaz
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Terrence J
Celebrate 25 years of 106 and park this year at the BET Awards.
Justina Valentine
And we're going to pivot.
Terrence J
Listen, man, money talks, man.
AJ Calloway
But I do remember when you walked off the set, you said it was a publicity stunt.
DJ Envy
Brought it back.
AJ Calloway
Yeah, he brought it back. Because I don't want people to think.
Roxy Diaz
That was a real thing about me and him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Terrence J
This. We were blurring the lines of reality. This is early reality tv, right? We were blurring the lines. Me and Roxy were sitting in Steven's office and was like, why don't we, you know, try this as a scripted thing? We were coming up with creative. People were talking about it like it was, you know, popping popcorn. Right?
Roxy Diaz
Yeah.
Terrence J
So it was.
AJ Calloway
Yeah.
Terrence J
Me and her have always been right here. There was never.
Roxy Diaz
There was never, ever, ever, ever between me and even to this day, like, protect him at all costs, you know?
Terrence J
And we never hooked up. And the only reason why I bring that up is because Roxy is such a professional. That it is.
AJ Calloway
You're such a professional.
Terrence J
I. I appreciate it.
AJ Calloway
Let me say this before y' all ask me. Okay. Let me say this before y' all ask.
Angela Yee
Yeah, yeah.
Terrence J
Well, you know, with women in.
AJ Calloway
The way he's handling the interview right now.
Roxy Diaz
No. Yeah.
AJ Calloway
She's a rich.
Terrence J
Like, she.
DJ Envy
Calm down.
AJ Calloway
Spicy. Calm down.
DJ Envy
Spicy.
Justina Valentine
No, because as a woman, she wants to understand why you took it away from her real quick. He threw it to her, and you took it away.
AJ Calloway
Go ahead and finish, Terence. I know what you're saying.
Terrence J
I Think I. I think needed to be said, you know, is. Is. Is. The show was special, and we're just so happy that we get to celebrate it.
Charlamagne Tha God
25 years.
Roxy Diaz
25 years. And people still want.
Charlamagne Tha God
People still talk about it, but that's.
Angela Yee
The thing, like, every day, right? Do you know I'm one of them who wanted it back. But do y' all feel like, honestly, it would be a success in today's digital? Like.
Charlamagne Tha God
I do. And I bump back against. And it's crazy because the TV execs have arguments about it all the time. If a video show would still do well. I think so in a world where there's YouTube. And I honestly believe that it would, you know, but that's just my opinion. I don't think so.
Roxy Diaz
I don't think the video.
Charlamagne Tha God
A lot of people say, like, people argue videos free. But the conversations. And you gotta remember before you honestly.
DJ Envy
Could get videos there.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, no, no. But listen, you gotta.
DJ Envy
I ain't gotta wait for you.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's above that. Because back then, artists had to come and talk about their video. They had to come and talk about their music. And it was, like, segments to that. And I think that honestly improved the music.
Angela Yee
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, labels were like, we can't. We can't. We can't put this out because we gotta. They're gonna end up on the couch talking about this. If you think about some of the stuff that's out now, could I have three segments with an artist talking about what they're saying on that record? I think it improved music, but I think that's necessary and needed. I don't know if it's a 106 in park, but it's a show that's needed.
Angela Yee
And Then also on 106 and park, what people wasn't even really realizing. We were so excited about it. And. And I still would be, but they didn't even play the whole music video.
DJ Envy
30 seconds. They got to a point with, like, 20 seconds. All right.
Angela Yee
That was arguing about that host. It was about the segments that y' all had. The people. Y' all had, the energy between y' all. Like, how y' all just made it even. Like, how y' all would show your audience sometimes, and I'd be like, oh, my gosh.
AJ Calloway
She.
Angela Yee
I used. I was cracking on people a long time ago, so I used to rush your audience. Like, it was so many things.
Charlamagne Tha God
We had some time when there was no audience members. Like, we had. Sometimes we. We had a school upstairs at Metropolis. We would literally pull students down some times. Because we didn't have any audience. Like, this is at the beginning. Like, we would do a show, and it'd be nobody in the audience, and they would do can tape of an audience before, and we would have to have all the energy, and we're talking to nobody.
Angela Yee
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
So it was. There was a lot of things that.
Angela Yee
You know, you don't even know.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah, the stories are crazy.
AJ Calloway
How did it feel having. Or at least. Well, at least for Terence and Roxy. How did it feel having more famed and probably money, because I'm sure the fame shot off faster than having actual bread in your pocket.
Terrence J
Yeah. You know, their. Their financial literacy wasn't a conversation of discussion. I didn't have a bunch of financial mentors at that stage of my life. So when you're. When you're famous. Right. Or people recognize you for what you're doing, because famous is word I don't love to use. But you don't have the funds now. You. You have imposter syndrome right now. You're trying to keep up. This is when the birth of. Of bottle service and the nightclubs popped off. So you're, you know, you're trying to wear things, you're trying to buy jewelry, you're trying to do these things, but you don't have the means to do it.
DJ Envy
TJ was outside back then.
Terrence J
Yeah, there was a lot.
DJ Envy
Y' all was outside.
AJ Calloway
He was outside.
Roxy Diaz
We was going to your club. We was going to yell spots.
DJ Envy
I know.
Roxy Diaz
Greenhouse. Shout out to Greenhouse.
Terrence J
But the money came. I mean, you know, it was a. I mean, it was a cultural revolution. So it all came really, you know, fast.
DJ Envy
The dope thing about, I would say, is not your era, but we were all coming up. I feel like New York in the 2000, 2005, 2010, was a bunch of people coming up at the same time. So we all ran with each other, and I just thought that was dope. We all looked out for each other. We all cared about each other. We all moved in the same circle. So it's like watching y' all now, it's like. It's like y' all brothers and sisters to me, because we were all there. We were in fights. We were doing this like we did it all together. And thank God there was no cameras back then. The tape.
Terrence J
Thank God everybody. Charlamagne tried to fight me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Charlemagne tried to fight you. Charlamagne tried to fight you.
Terrence J
No, I love Charlamagne. I don't even remember what happened. I don't even remember what happened.
DJ Envy
Where did this happen?
AJ Calloway
I used to be on Wendy's show, and I used to be gunning Terrence and Roxy, right? And so I was up there with.
Angela Yee
Wendy being messy, just like your godfather.
AJ Calloway
Shut up. And so Terrence came up to me and tried to shake my head, and I said, I can't shake your hand, because I know I'd be talking about you, and that would be fake of me. So Terrence sat down, he put his hat on back, because he said, you know what? Yeah, I respect that, but it ain't me. So I really be wanting to punch you in the face for what you be saying about my co host. And I was like, bro, I'll fuck you up in here. And then everybody was like, y' all go in the bathroom and talk. And that's what we did. We went to the bathroom and talked. But he was protecting Roxy. He didn't even care about what I was saying about him. He was protecting Roxy.
Justina Valentine
But who won the fight?
DJ Envy
And TJ didn't always take his shirt off. TJ's shirt will always be off. Right? Right before he's about to fight. TJ and Shrek would not.
AJ Calloway
They got the fight. Yo, go help tj. Me and Terrence never fought. And if I saw Terrence in a fight now, I would help Terrence.
Charlamagne Tha God
Look.
Terrence J
When he left the room, it ended with a hug. I have so much respect for Charlamagne then and now. What Charlamagne has done is incredible. And it was respect. And I think that started our friendship was like. We had that moment, and then we dapped it up. And it was so much respect after that.
Roxy Diaz
Y' all almost did a show together, right? They weren't even producing.
AJ Calloway
Terrence was ep' ing it. Yeah, it was me, Duval, and Angela.
Terrence J
Yeah, we actually shot.
AJ Calloway
Yep.
Terrence J
State of the Union.
AJ Calloway
A lot of it was jealousy, though. I'll be honest. Like, I remember walking up to Terrence one time at the Mission. This is when y' all was in Harlem at Mission Impossible, and I had just got with Wendy. And I don't know why I wasn't appreciating my blessing at that time, because I'm with Wendy, and I'm like, yo, one day, I'm gonna take your job for no reason.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, but honestly, that speaks. No, no, no, no. But that spe. That speaks to what I was going through back then. But I never, like, just, like, you didn't know. I didn't know. I wasn't in the industry. There were a lot of people that wanted that television shot. So when we got it When I said there was a lot of pressure on anyone who's in those shoes, there were a lot of people that wanted to be on television that feel like, I did the work.
DJ Envy
I deserve to be there.
Podcast Announcer
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I mean?
AJ Calloway
But I hadn't done the work. I was just hating. Yeah.
Terrence J
But, you know, it's Casey. I remember. I remember that. I remember that. And I. But I didn't take it like that, man. I, I. When I saw you and looked in your eyes, I saw that there was a hunger there, and I saw that there was a. As an ambition there. And I just felt like, as black man, it wasn't our job to tear each other down.
AJ Calloway
I'm happy that you're coming. This policy.
Terrence J
But it was New York was.
AJ Calloway
Was competitive. And you would, you know, when we.
Terrence J
Walk down the street, this is a.
DJ Envy
Different side of tj because back then, TJ would get into it like, I can't imagine.
Justina Valentine
Aj, are you. Are you Greek, too? You're cute.
Charlamagne Tha God
We're both Q's.
Justina Valentine
Okay, so even that, when you got moment, you came across the line, the HBCU connection and things like that, how did that help back then? Because it's so prep. Like, Everybody talks about HBCUs and stuff now. But then when it wasn't as talked about, how was that connection then, knowing that you had a broken.
Terrence J
Oh, it was. It was. Having Omega Sci Fi with my back was unbelievable. Coming from a black college, coming from A and T. You know, being a member of Omega Sci Fi. And then the bros was, like, behind, you know, supported Roxy, too. So anytime we would do events, anytime we would do parties, it would be security. All of my line. All of my line brothers would be there, show up. Like, we didn't have security back then. And so, yeah, we.
AJ Calloway
We would.
Terrence J
We would be hosting on TV on a Friday, and then we would be, you know, in Detroit, New Orleans, Baltimore, Carolinas, Carolinas, all over on the weekends. And it was the frat that was, like, moving around with us, supporting us.
AJ Calloway
Ain'T backing down from nobody. I don't know about this line you talking about, but them two, they was alive.
Roxy Diaz
You can mention it. Frat. But it's like, that was another thing that was really special during TJ&I's time, because again, we came together totally new. Terrence had Fred, and I had Chantelle, and it was us four. Like. And for those that know to this day, it's still us. It's still us four. It's still us four. So, yeah, we had an amazing we had to have an amazing friendship, system, support system around us because all of our friends, like, to what. To envy's point, we were all doing this for the first time at the level that we was doing it at. Like. Like when we was DJing in Boston, it wasn't even, like, at the level of what we were growing at. And at that time in New York City, in Charlemagne, too, it was just different. We were all trying to really, really get it and hustle, and there was no YouTube, Instagram, get found virally, all that. You had to have talent.
Terrence J
That was it.
Roxy Diaz
You had to have. You had to know how to do the job. So.
AJ Calloway
And the crazy thing about both of.
Roxy Diaz
Y' all, y' all, they don't have talent.
AJ Calloway
You and Terence was always so embracing while everybody else was hating, like, so it's like I met Terence after we had that incident. I'm like, damn, he actually cool. And me and Roxy ended up living in the same building. Roxy gives me a copy of the Alchemist. She embraces me, like. Like, I'm like, damn, why the Was I ever hating on these people?
Justina Valentine
Well, you're a very angry little. Your waist probably wasn't the type mess.
Charlamagne Tha God
With me back in the day.
AJ Calloway
But I bet you there's a lot of people to your point, aj, that was just hating and jealous, but they won't admit it. They might admit it now, but back then, it's like, who are these people on tv and I'm not.
Justina Valentine
Just get him up under.
Angela Yee
Yeah, he was a little windy.
Justina Valentine
That's what they called.
Angela Yee
That's why they was calling you Wendell.
AJ Calloway
Free told me to tell y' all I love them deep. It ain't nothing like being a part of the 106 fam alongside AJ, Roxy, TJ, Tigger, Jaleesa, Bow, and Keisha. See y' all at the award show. You dig?
Terrence J
Yes.
DJ Envy
So now what are y' all doing.
AJ Calloway
At the awards show?
DJ Envy
Me break that down.
AJ Calloway
And she also told me to keep asking AJ where Free is.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I know she gets that. How many times you get asked that? I get asked that, and you gotta mix things up. Five times.
DJ Envy
They ask me that all the time and just say wild stuff. Like times, like, he's getting that change.
Charlamagne Tha God
I can be in Africa to be like, where it's Free.
DJ Envy
Like, he's getting a change.
Roxy Diaz
In the US Free. During free time, Free was Free herself. Her name and her. She was, like, one of the most popular.
AJ Calloway
Oh, yeah.
Roxy Diaz
Names of. I don't know what list it was that came back in the World like free.
AJ Calloway
Every black man in America had free with King. The King magazine cover with free on the front.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Roxy Diaz
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
Roxy Diaz
King magazine.
Terrence J
Yeah.
AJ Calloway
Wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
So your question. The 25th.
DJ Envy
Oh. So what are you guys doing? What are you guys doing for one of those.
AJ Calloway
Awards?
DJ Envy
What are you guys doing up to be BET Awards?
Terrence J
It's a celebration.
DJ Envy
Hosting the show.
Terrence J
No, no, no, no. So it's a. Kevin. We are celebrating 25 years of this landmark show. BET's 106. And park. We have a lot of surprises. They're going to be a lot of special announcements, and it'll be the first time all the hosts are being. Coming back to be on stage together. It's going to be a beautiful reunion. And we're just. We're so humbled and we're so appreciative of this time in our life. To be able to celebrate this together, it's amazing. You know, I. I lost my dad about a year and a half ago, and. Thank you. And when I lost him, it just. It really gave me perspective on time, you know, and when you have time to spend with the people that you love. And furthermore, when you have these celebrations where. This is not just about us. This is about BET as a network. It's about the culture, it's about the fans. It's about all of you. Like, 106 is everybody's show. Everybody voted on this show every day. Right. This show means something to so many people. And so we're just excited that we get to all come together. And I can't wait for y' all to see the surprises and surprise performances. Man, we got some performances that it's.
Roxy Diaz
Gonna feel like the show all over.
AJ Calloway
It's really getting honored. It's not just a moment. Okay, good. Good. Battle.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow. Honestly, I gotta take my hat off. Cause I was there from the beginning of BET to where it is now. And for BET to do this, I think is pretty amazing, you know, to give tribute just to the whole franchise in a whole. It says a lot. And it's just like Taryn said. It's just an amazing thing for that to be happening.
AJ Calloway
And y' all need to be documentary.
Charlamagne Tha God
It was 25 years ago. What'd you say?
AJ Calloway
I need a documentary.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's in the works.
AJ Calloway
Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
In the works.
Justina Valentine
So I want to talk categories.
AJ Calloway
Uh. Oh, okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Justina Valentine
Yes. So best new artist and album of the year categories. I want to talk about that right here on the Breakfast Club.
AJ Calloway
That's an easy call. Who best new artist is? Dolce. It's not even Close.
DJ Envy
That's new artist is Dolce. I agree. Is she in the category? She should be in the category, right?
Justina Valentine
I do see her on my list. So let's read who we have for the best narrator. So y' all are welcome to take this over.
AJ Calloway
She's not nominated for best.
Justina Valentine
No. So best new artist we had last year.
Charlamagne Tha God
What's she. Wait, was she.
Justina Valentine
Yeah. So best new artist we have Eric. All right. A star. Big ass to plug Boss man. Dlow. D Bills.
DJ Envy
You want water?
Terrence J
No, no, no. Oh, thank you.
Justina Valentine
D Bills. Leon Thomas. October, London, Shaboozy. Teddy Swims. And it says 4:1. Is that 4:1, the group from New York? No. Okay.
Terrence J
Not sure. You know, this is a tough category, and so many of these artists have been around Kanza and. And it's just so many talented people.
Roxy Diaz
I could say I'm a fan of a lot of them there.
Terrence J
Leon Thomas is October, London.
Roxy Diaz
Teddy Swims. My goodness.
Justina Valentine
We had to take Big Ext.
Charlamagne Tha God
Had a great year. He was performing when the Eagles won the super bowl at the after party.
Roxy Diaz
Yeah.
Angela Yee
Star is another one.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Roxy Diaz
I love Iris Star. So that's a. That's a. They're all so they. It doesn't even.
DJ Envy
This is a political answer.
Justina Valentine
This is happening here. First on the breakfast.
Roxy Diaz
I don't even feel like it's a new artist because they've been killing it.
AJ Calloway
So that's why I thought Dolce would have been in that category.
DJ Envy
I like Shaboozi. I think Shabuzzi has had a hell of a year. His record was big. He's performed at country awards and crossover awards. Out of all them, I like Shaboozi or Teddy Swims.
Terrence J
Yeah, I like Leon Thomas, but it's black.
DJ Envy
So I gotta.
Justina Valentine
I would say I love Teddy Swims, but y' all don't feel like if it's Teddy Swims, people gonna be upset.
DJ Envy
That's why I said Shaboozi.
Charlamagne Tha God
Shaboozi.
AJ Calloway
That's why I said Shaboozi. Forget the white guy. Salute to Teddy. If he had a good year, he had a good year.
Roxy Diaz
But it's the bet.
Justina Valentine
I love Teddy.
Roxy Diaz
Did have a good.
AJ Calloway
Yeah, but I would do.
DJ Envy
I would do.
Justina Valentine
Probably shab you going Big X the Plug.
AJ Calloway
Pick one.
Charlamagne Tha God
I like them all.
Angela Yee
You seen. You seen big.
DJ Envy
Get it to office.
Charlamagne Tha God
I do like Big X Plug. My son likes Big X Plug. So, like, B goes up.
Angela Yee
He's hitting.
Justina Valentine
What about album of the year? So we got some sexy songs for you. Drake and party next door. 1111 Deluxe. Jess Chris Brown Alligator bites never heal Our girl Dochi Cowboy Carter. Beyonce Glorious Glorilla, gnx Kendrick Lamar Hurry up tomorrow the weekend and we don't trust you Future metro booming they posed.
Angela Yee
To pick which one.
Justina Valentine
Now this. This category is real good political. This. Whoever doesn't give an answer gotta take a shot.
AJ Calloway
It's only between two for me.
DJ Envy
It's only one for me.
Angela Yee
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
There's only one answer for that one. What y' all already know?
Justina Valentine
No.
Charlamagne Tha God
GNX album of the year had the best year any artist.
Angela Yee
Brown for so many years. He was thinking like me.
DJ Envy
I said, kendrick, who has had the.
Charlamagne Tha God
Best year of any.
Justina Valentine
Terrence, I'll let you finish.
Terrence J
But Beyonce.
Angela Yee
That's right.
Charlamagne Tha God
So that's my. That's my answer. I mean, Kendrick is. I mean, he's on tour now with.
Justina Valentine
I'm going Kendrick or doi.
Roxy Diaz
I'll say, yeah. I did not stop listening to Kendrick's album.
Terrence J
Not even gonna lie this moment in time for Kendrick. I mean, it's kind of like.
Roxy Diaz
But I loved Chris's album too. Cannot even lie too.
Charlamagne Tha God
Chris and Doshi's album and Glorilla.
Roxy Diaz
This is challenge.
DJ Envy
I think it's dope. But the year Kendrick has had is like, you can't.
Terrence J
I'm switching my. My Answer A Glorilla.
AJ Calloway
June 9.
Roxy Diaz
I will say this. I wish that there. There are a lot of times and. And thank. I'm glad that I'm still able to cover carpets and still work in this industry. I tell like a lot. I told icon in this industry. I'm like, thank you. I told Glo. I said, you're the kind of artist that makes me wish I was still on 106 in park because I would have had so much fun having you up there because it would have been so. Some of the artists today. I wish we still had a platform like 106. It would have been fun to at that time to interview them. It's too expensive right now.
Charlamagne Tha God
When artists, music on tv.
Justina Valentine
Who outside of Glorilla, do you also think that about?
Roxy Diaz
Let's see, a lot of, like the Afrobeats people right now. Like, I love Burner. I love Wiz, you know, DeVito. Like, I'm heavy in Afrobeats right now. Like, I really love that whole movement. And so I would have loved to have had, you know, them up there. Like Lizzo. We. I. We didn't have. We didn't give a chance to have a Lizzo up there. You know, there's so many artists and.
AJ Calloway
They'Ll say, jesus, Lizzo entered that realm where we can talk about her. Like Luther.
DJ Envy
What?
AJ Calloway
Remember we had a big. Remember we had a big.
DJ Envy
You can't do that no more.
Terrence J
So with that said champagne, early 106 and park 25 years. We're also. We're celebrating the Breakfast Club. We're celebrating. There's a synergy here. Celebrating. It's early.
AJ Calloway
We're.
Terrence J
We're proud. We're excited to be here and it's a beautiful moment. So let's get. We're gonna get some.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, my God.
Terrence J
We'll get some champagne.
AJ Calloway
Let's do it.
Terrence J
Get some flutes going.
Justina Valentine
You told me and Jessica for us.
Terrence J
I did is.
AJ Calloway
I just said.
Terrence J
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DJ Envy
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AJ Calloway
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Angela Yee
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The Breakfast Club Podcast Summary
Episode Title: INTERVIEW: Rocsi Diaz, Terrence J & AJ Calloway On BET Awards '106 & Park' Anniversary, Webbie Incident +More
Release Date: May 8, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God
Guests: Roxy Diaz, Terrence J, AJ Calloway
Introduction
In this special episode of The Breakfast Club, hosts DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God welcome former 106 & Park hosts Rocsi Diaz, Terrence J, and AJ Calloway to discuss the monumental 25th anniversary of BET's iconic show, share behind-the-scenes stories, and reflect on their personal journeys within the entertainment industry.
1. Celebrating 106 & Park’s Legacy
The conversation kicks off with an enthusiastic celebration of 106 & Park's enduring legacy. The hosts reminisce about how the show was a cornerstone of their careers and a cultural hub for black and brown communities.
“106 and park was the global hub for all of this,” Terrence J explains at [04:58], emphasizing the show's role in showcasing the number one videos, breaking stories, and influencing fashion and sports.
2. Transitioning from Free and AJ to New Hosts
Rocsi, Terrence, and AJ delve into the challenges and triumphs of taking over from beloved former hosts Free and AJ. They discuss the initial backlash and how they leaned on each other to navigate their new roles.
“We were a different situation because there really didn't have to be a chemistry test,” Roxy Diaz shares at [14:16], highlighting the instant rapport between her and Terrence J.
3. Memorable Moments and Impact
The guests recount unforgettable moments from their time on 106 & Park, including high-profile interviews and cultural milestones. They speak about interviewing legends like Janet Jackson and witnessing significant events that shaped their community.
“When Free and AJ was on TV in 2000, it was iconic,” Charlamagne Tha God remarks at [04:33], underscoring the show's influential presence during pivotal years.
4. The Webbie Incident and Behind-the-Scenes Dynamics
A significant portion of the discussion centers around the infamous Webbie incident. Roxy Diaz emphasizes the protective environment among the hosts, stating at [24:15], “Roxy, you walking off stage together… I’m going to protect him at all costs.” They clarify rumors about personal conflicts and affirm the strong bond and respect among the team.
5. Preparing for the BET Awards Reunion
Looking ahead, the hosts express excitement about the upcoming BET Awards event celebrating 25 years of 106 & Park. Terrence J shares heartfelt sentiments about the reunion, saying at [29:35], “It's going to be a beautiful reunion,” and hints at special performances and announcements that honor the show's legacy.
“We're so excited that we get to all come together,” he adds at [29:37], highlighting the collective pride and anticipation for the event.
6. Discussing BET Awards Categories
The conversation shifts to the current BET Awards categories, where the guests passionately debate the nominees for Best New Artist and Album of the Year. They offer personal favorites and insights into the artists' performances over the year.
DJ Envy declares at [44:48], “Best new artist is Dolce. It’s not even close,” showcasing the competitive spirit among the hosts as they advocate for their preferred nominees.
7. Reflections on Hosting and Personal Growth
Rocsi, Terrence, and AJ reflect on their growth both professionally and personally since their days on 106 & Park. They discuss the hustle required to succeed in the entertainment industry and the importance of building a support system.
“We were all part of this amazing family,” AJ Calloway notes at [06:08], emphasizing the foundational experiences that shaped their careers.
8. The Importance of 106 & Park in Today’s Digital Age
The hosts debate whether a show like 106 & Park could thrive in today’s digital landscape dominated by social media and on-demand content. Charlamagne Tha God expresses optimism, stating at [31:45], “I think it would still do well,” while Roxy Diaz agrees on the enduring need for a platform that fosters real-time conversations and cultural dialogue.
9. Personal Anecdotes and Lighthearted Interactions
Throughout the episode, the hosts share humorous and candid moments, showcasing their camaraderie and the enduring friendships forged during their time on the show. Stories about past interactions, playful disagreements, and mutual respect add a personal touch to the discussion.
“I got so much respect for Charlamagne then and now,” Terrence J affirms at [36:34], highlighting the deep connections among the hosts.
Conclusion
As the episode wraps up, the guests reiterate their excitement for the upcoming BET Awards and the opportunity to honor 106 & Park's remarkable 25-year journey. They express gratitude towards their fans and the BET network for allowing them to be part of such a transformative show.
“106 is everybody's show. Everybody voted on this show every day,” Terrence J concludes at [30:02], encapsulating the inclusive and impactful nature of 106 & Park.
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Final Thoughts
This episode of The Breakfast Club serves as a heartfelt tribute to 106 & Park, celebrating its profound impact on the hosts, the artists they interviewed, and the broader culture. Through personal anecdotes, reflective discussions, and enthusiastic planning for the BET Awards reunion, Rocsi Diaz, Terrence J, and AJ Calloway encapsulate the enduring legacy and significance of one of television's most beloved morning shows.