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DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, Shamia Morton. Welcome.
Shamia Morton
Hey. Hey, best friends.
DJ Envy
How you feeling?
Shamia Morton
I'm excited. I've been waiting to see you, come hang out with y' all for so long. We seen you. You've been.
Charlamagne Tha God
We seen you.
DJ Envy
We pass you in the halls.
Charlamagne Tha God
We've been seeing.
Shamia Morton
Yeah, but I'm just tired of passing y' all. I just wanted to be in the room with y' all.
Charlamagne Tha God
You being.
DJ Envy
Well, she other shows up here.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, she. Did you show?
Shamia Morton
Yeah, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, okay. Okay, okay, okay. Got you, got you, got you.
DJ Envy
Yeah. So how you feeling? How's everything?
Shamia Morton
You know, everything's been great. New York has been kind. My birthday was yesterday, so I got to celebrate. Here, y' all party up here on the 13th. Yes.
DJ Envy
That's me and my wife's anniversary.
Shamia Morton
Dope stop.
DJ Envy
24 years.
Shamia Morton
That's a big, beautiful thing. You picked the right day. You picked the right day.
DJ Envy
I picked the right day.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why do I care? It's my birthday.
Shamia Morton
Yes, I do. I love it. Black love. There we go.
Jess Hilarious
Well, you got your new single out. Never had.
Shamia Morton
Yes. Oh, my goodness. So I'm excited about that song, cuz. RL&B flat helped produce that, you know r from next. And you know how it is in the industry. You tell people you really want to do something, like, yeah, yeah, come by the studio, and no one ever follows up and really don't do anything. So me being at my big age, you know, it was still a passion of mine to sing and do music. And he gave me a shot. And people are loving it, and I'm loving that y' all are supporting it. Thank you.
DJ Envy
Let's first talk about how she walked in here. She walked in here with sparklers and liquor for everybody. She did like, it was the nightclub.
Jess Hilarious
I felt like I was about to get a shot. She had the two bottle girls with the sparkler. She came in like, hey, y' all bought bottles.
DJ Envy
Charlamagne said, can I tip y' all?
Shamia Morton
I know. That was so kind.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why do you think your career didn't take off? The music career?
Shamia Morton
In the past it's been because I've been in girl groups or, you know, like, I was in the group co ed. Roll with me. Back in the day. Roll with me. Okay, So.
Charlamagne Tha God
I thought, I'm like, what song is that?
Jess Hilarious
But that was a girl group with Kerry Hilson.
Shamia Morton
I did a group with Kerry Hilson. It was called Pretty Tony. And then, of course, Shamari Fears went a group called Intrigue. Back in the day up done lots of groups, and you know how it is with groups. Back in the day. It was like, somebody else gets signed by somebody. Then. Now the group is broken up or somebody gets pregnant. Now it's over. And I think I just got burned out at a young age. And that acting check was better. So I started focusing on that acting, hosting, and the music. Love was always there. So I was like, I'm going back to it.
Jess Hilarious
But you've always had a beautiful voice, though.
Shamia Morton
Thank you. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. So, yeah, I was like, singing at churches, bat mitzvahs, funerals, and it was like, okay, I gotta. I gotta do it. I just gotta do it on my own. And now it's easier because social media helps you to just put your own stuff out there. You don't have to wait on. Yeah, like, back in the day was like, you gotta do it for A and R. Have a whole showcase. Somebody's got approved, label gotta sign you. Then you gotta hope that they put it out. Now you just sing on Instagram. I hope it goes viral.
Charlamagne Tha God
But with that said, what does success look like in that space for you?
Shamia Morton
I think I'm living it right now, just having my song Even hit the chart is a blessing because I'm, like, little on me, you know, I just. I don't know. Even people just singing it and tagging me in their videos, like, oh, it's a vibe. I like it. It feels good. Cause now I'm just not singing it for my family on a fireplace stoop. It's like, no, the world is loving it.
DJ Envy
Gotcha.
Jess Hilarious
So are we just doing singles? Are we.
Shamia Morton
Oh, my goodness.
Jess Hilarious
An album in the making. An ep. What's going on?
Shamia Morton
So I just shot the video for it, so I'm gonna release that next month. And I don't know. I've gotten five strong songs so far, so I don't know if I want to do an EP or album, but we'll see.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Now, also, we got to ask. You were a friend on the Housewives.
Shamia Morton
For a while or forever.
DJ Envy
So you've seen the mess, you've seen the craziness, the fights and all.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
DJ Envy
What made you want to be part of that franchise as an official member?
Shamia Morton
I think I've always wanted to do it, but they wouldn't allow me to do it without my husband actually agreeing to come on camera. And he wasn't for it. He was like, I support you doing it, and our kids and y' all can film at the house. We just don't want to be on camera. And when they came over, did a test shoot with me, they saw how I was living, and they were like, I don't think we'll need him.
DJ Envy
He's on the show a little bit.
Shamia Morton
They were like, well. They were like, well, we'll be able to move forward, you know?
Jess Hilarious
And then I just was holding out on how much money you had and everything.
Shamia Morton
Well, you know, I don't know. I just don't lead with it. I mean, unless you know me, and we're, like, great friends. You wouldn't know because, I mean, I don't know, it's weird for me to be like, hey, you know, I'm rich.
Jess Hilarious
But if that's what's required, you know, to get on the show. Were you ever. Was that something that you. Did you even want to have a peach on the show, or did you?
Shamia Morton
I did. I did, but I just. I didn't think that it would ever happen because he, again, had to agree to be on camera. And he was like, mm. But then he ends up joining us a little bit this season, like, for big events for me, like my birthday or my showcase and stuff. He. He pulls up, but he was like, this ain't you know, he's. He shies away from cameras. That's not his thing. And I'm like, I respect that.
Charlamagne Tha God
I was gonna ask, too. Cause there's so much focus on relationships on the show. How did you get him not to film? So you. How did you get him not to have to film a whole season? He films a little bit.
Shamia Morton
He does come a little bit. But it's not like our personal life is. You know, that's me. That's my. You know, you only can give what you want to give or show what you want to show. And I think, you know, he pulls off our kids and my birth, like, the big moments, but he's just not into it, like.
Charlamagne Tha God
And the network was completely okay with that.
Shamia Morton
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow. Dope.
Shamia Morton
Finally. I mean, finally, you know, I've been. And that's another thing. I feel like my personality and just what I bring is enough. I don't necessarily need y' all to. He's. It's not the housewives, you know, the husbands. It's the wives. So the focus should be on the wives. And I think anytime the men have gotten too involved, it's been messy.
DJ Envy
I think it's been weird, too. Like, when the men are just sitting there talking to each other about the women, it just seems weird on the show. Even if they got your party, just when they go to the men over there talking in the corner, it just seems odd. Like, you know what I mean?
Charlamagne Tha God
You'd be right over there. You'd be right in that mix.
DJ Envy
I would, but it seems weird. Yeah, you're right. But it's just.
Shamia Morton
Would you and your wife ever do something like that?
DJ Envy
We thought about it a couple of times in the approach, but. But I wanted to ask for people that don't know. How close are you and Portia, meaning growing up, how, like, were y' all best friends growing up? Did y' all live down the block or school?
Shamia Morton
So our parents were best friends.
DJ Envy
Oh.
Shamia Morton
And that's kind of how we became friends. And you know how it is when you. Y' all take family trips. So we go and it's like, at first, it was like a forced friendship. Cause it was like, we were childhood friends. Then I went to college, she did her thing, and after, we just kind of came back together when she got married, and it was like, oh, my gosh, I missed you, like, and we were, like, inseparable since. So prior to this show, I would like to think that we were very.
DJ Envy
Close, but the show changed that a little bit.
Shamia Morton
Yeah. And that's unfortunate, because I love Portia, you know, and we have a good time together. Like, she's super silly. Like, me down to earth and just this platform, I just. I prayed that it wouldn't change things, but unfortunately, it has, and it's like, a lot of people muddying and, you know, making the water a little mess. It's messy, but you're not real or.
Charlamagne Tha God
Manufactured, because, I mean.
Shamia Morton
No, these feelings are very real. Like I'm saying, do you think they're.
Charlamagne Tha God
Being exploited, like, for a storyline?
Shamia Morton
I think that they are just messy. Like, I think some of these women are messy, and I would never have allowed them to ruin our friendship or even muddy the waters. But she's listened to some of the things that they've said, and. And of course, with this show, everything will be revealed. It will be shown to you. And it's like, we've gone this whole season and not really been speaking. So when you watch it, it's gonna be like, okay, see, I told you. I told you that Drew said this about paying for your child's college. As a real friend, I'm not gonna allow somebody to talk about you in your absence. I think you should have thought, like, been like, thank you for holding me down in my absence. Instead, she's like, oh, you're trying to start mess with me and Drew. Or it's like, you brought it back. You exaggerated it. And I'm like, it was. No need to exaggerate it. The girl said what she said, and I said that. She said it jokingly, but she said it. And I didn't even add the part about, oh, I'll be able to buy her some snacks. Like, it was just off here for college. And I'm like, no. If someone came and they said, oh, I'm gonna pay for Marley Sky's college, I'm like, no, I. I'm sure Jess got it. You don't need to do that. You know, you're being messy. How much are the edits? I hate that.
DJ Envy
How much do the edits really affect it? Right? Cause there was one part, and, you know, I watched the show with my wife. I guess you guys were going out for dinner, and one of the girls you like, first time meeting him, and then she threw a shot at Portia right away, right? And you was like, that's my friend. So before you go there, that's my friend. So how much of the show edits that we don't see that Maybe you did check and tell her this, that, and the other. But we only see that little glimpse of it.
Shamia Morton
Oh, yeah, well, that. I mean, you know, you only get, what, an hour? So they can't show everything, but they're filming all day. Absolutely. And I definitely did check both of them. You know, they kind of came for my friend. And, you know, that's the problem that I have now on the season. Like, I'm the lap dog because I'm a super loyal person, and I'm a loyal friend, and if that's what that means, then I guess I'm a lap dog, because what you're not gonna do is talk trash about my people and not expect me to speak about it and speak up on it. And I brought that information back to Portia, as I would think I want her to do it for me. Like, hey, girl, this is what they said. Like, I told them they should get to know you for yourself, you know, they were like, oh, you know how you let your friend steal that lady's husband? I'm like, yo, this is how these new girls are coming. I'm just giving you a heads up. So, you know, and it was like, all that's being turned around. Like, you're being messy and talking about your friend.
Jess Hilarious
Now, is Portia a different Portia outside of Housewives than she is on Housewives? You're her friend, so you would know that. You know, y' all have known each other for a while.
Shamia Morton
I think that on the show, she can kind of, like, close up and not be as vulnerable and open, but rightfully so. Like, sometimes on this platform, you get torn apart for being vulnerable and being open. It's like, oh, you should have did. So. It's like, almost like you damned if you do, damned if you don't. So, yeah, I do think that, you know, she's guarded in a sense, whereas if we're just one on one hanging out, it's like, it's whatever. I'm an open book, and the sky's the limit. Whatever. Like, but the show, of course, she's like, I'm gonna harness and hold back on some of this stuff because I don't want to be judged or I don't want to feel, you know.
Jess Hilarious
Do you feel like things changed after you got your peach?
Shamia Morton
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Even more than before?
Shamia Morton
Yes, because now we're sharing this space in this spotlight, and it's uncomfortable.
DJ Envy
You feel she's jealous?
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, why would you.
Shamia Morton
I don't know that. I don't know that she's jealous. I don't want to say that, but I just feel like it's just different because before, I was just a friend of. Now it's like, I have. I have a mic on. Before, I would be at some of these events, and no one would even know I was in the room, because, again, I'm just a friend of Horseshoe or a friend of Kandy, and I may have an opinion on something, but you wouldn't know it because they didn't catch it. Whereas now it's like, oh, well, where does Shamia get this big voice from or this big personality from? Well, I've always been here. I just never got the opportunity to express it or show it. And like I said back to Portia, I just don't feel like in a real friendship, you have to, like. I don't want to say be guarded, but it's like, am I cool to say this? Like, we good?
Jess Hilarious
I don't want to.
Shamia Morton
I don't want to out nothing, or I don't want to talk about something that you're not comfortable talking about or bring into this platform or bring into this space. Like, are we good? So you're kind of like walking on eggshells. For the longest time, it's been her thing, and. And now this is our thing. And. Whereas before, as a friend of the show, it's like, hey, we ain't talking about this on your. Okay, cool. Now it's like, well, this is my personal life. You're my real friend. This is what it is. I'm open. I'm super open and rich in authenticity. Whatever I am is what I am on camera and off camera. So there's nothing off limits for you to talk about with me.
DJ Envy
People would say in the comments that she didn't come up to your wedding. She came late to your birthday party.
Jess Hilarious
She didn't come to the wedding. In Kenya.
DJ Envy
Yeah, in Kenya.
Shamia Morton
And to be clear, I only had one wedding.
Jess Hilarious
Oh, okay, so you didn't have a.
Shamia Morton
Wedding, and that was a wedding in Kenya.
DJ Envy
And people would say that, you know, how did you feel that she didn't come when she was up here? She said the reason she was late for your birthday is she said it was traffic. She can't shoot in her house. She shot at her mom's house. Why are you looking at me like that?
Shamia Morton
I'm just looking at her. I'm just telling you what she said. Okay.
DJ Envy
All right. She said that she was in traffic. She couldn't shoot at her house, so she had to shoot at her mom's house. It was way across the other side, so it took A little extra time. So how did that make you feel when she missed both of those things? As a best friend?
Shamia Morton
And see, that's the thing. When I speak on it, it's like I'm throwing shade at Portia, and I should have forgiven her years ago. Okay, yeah, we moved on. But since I'm on this platform now, all of this stuff is coming back up, and I'm not bringing it up, and that's what happens. And I gotta talk about it. Right? But. So it's like, I'm not on this Portia tour of just trying to slander Portia and shame her. Like, that's not what this is about. But the reality is, yes, she did miss my wedding in Kenya. And yes, it was hurtful. And. And we talked about it, and we've moved past it. But again, that's one of the things that the ladies bring up on the show. Like, oh, it feels like your friendship is lopsided. She didn't come to your wedding. She didn't do this. And I'm constantly having to defend it. And in return, she's listening. Like, you talking to me? You talking about me to these other girls? I'm like, no, actually, these girls are bringing you up to me talking about how you're not a good friend. But, yeah, I mean, all that stuff happens. It's the real deal. Like, I didn't make this up. I didn't tell her to come later. She showed up. When she showed up, it looked how it looked. I don't have any control of that.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you also know your friend, right? Like, so you know her. Like, you know. You know, Portia don't like to be around a lot of people. You know, she's a cancer. She's a homebody. So for sure, being that you know her, you don't give her a little.
Shamia Morton
Bit more grace like I do.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cause you know her better than them girls.
Shamia Morton
I do. And that's what I'm saying. So even when she. So even when she came late, I was like, it's what it is. It's cool. I've downplayed everything, which is why they think I'm a lap dog, because they, like, why are you. Why do you keep giving her this grace? You should speak up. Up about it. You should say something about it. And I'm like, it's whatever. But then on the same token, she's a homebody, and. And she's a introvert, but she also shows up for other people's things.
Charlamagne Tha God
Got you. That makes sense.
DJ Envy
So, you know You. You. You started off. And side note, these some of my wife's questions. Because I asked. I was like, told you, you with.
Charlamagne Tha God
Them guys over there, if you like the show, you like the show, why.
Shamia Morton
You gotta be like that?
DJ Envy
My wife asked, just because I said, babe, send me some questions. What you would ask. She was like, so at first, you were Portia's second chair, like her homie, her cheerleader. But it says now you've taken a different outcome. It says, you become a boss and you're standing on your own. What do you say about the change in the public's perception of you? And do you think that they had it all wrong from the beginning of who you are?
Shamia Morton
Well, thank you, wifey, for calling me a boss. I appreciate that. I think that I've always been me. I just never had the platform to showcase who I am and what I stand for. My friendships, my faith, my family, the fun girl side of me. I just never had that opportunity. So now that I'm here, I'm like, all right, this is what it is. I just. I'm a good friend. I'm a good follower, but I'm also a great leader. And I think that's what makes a good leader. Somebody that can follow and sit back and let everybody else shine. I don't mind it. It doesn't take anything away from me for you being the first chair or you being, I'm cool, plus one, whatever. I know how I'm living. I know what I'm bringing.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let me ask. I'm just asking, right? Doesn't it seem a little strange to, like, now have issues with a friend? Because y' all on a show that.
DJ Envy
You knew each other all your life.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because I would think that you would. Y' all could fuck the cameras. Like, what's up? Like.
Shamia Morton
And I've. I've reached out and you'll see this upcoming episode that.
Charlamagne Tha God
But that's what I'm saying. I shouldn't have to see that on the episode.
Shamia Morton
I mean, but even outside. But that. But, see, that's the only chance you have to see it, because everything else is done in private. And no one believes you when you say, oh, we spoke about this in private, and it's fine. Then it's like, oh, no, you're too scared to confront your friend. But a lot of times I tell people, no, this was not for y' all. This conversation was not for y' all. It was for us. And it's like, but you're on a show, you can't decide what's private and what's not, you know? Because, again, you would know, like, this drama or this tension if it weren't for the show. So, I mean, we talk about things on the show and off the show, and it's like, it's a weird space. I don't want it to be that way. I mean, I posted her her daughter and tried to extend an olive branch and shown love, and she's been super distant. And I was very shocked yesterday to even get a birthday post. I was like, yes, thank you. Like, wow, I love you, you know?
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. And you did text her.
Shamia Morton
Yeah. And she text me happy birthday. And I was like, thank you so much. I was like, this made my day.
Charlamagne Tha God
You think she's been distant because she doesn't know what's for. What's. What could potentially be for TV and what's real anymore between y' all.
Shamia Morton
Possibly. Possibly. But I'm like, can we talk about it? Like.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, but y' all know this is all for, like, if producers and things like that, and, you know, showrunners see that, they're gonna try to make that a bigger moment anyway. Whether it's what y' all wanna do or not.
Shamia Morton
You're gonna find the thugs in the ears, and they can only do what you allow. Right. And if you my, like, day one, I should be able to be like Charlamagne, like, yo, this ain't what it is. I love you. We lock like this. No one can say, here's what Drew said, just FYI. And you take it for what it is not. I don't know. I'm not feeling it. Feel like you creating something. Why would I finally want to create something on a show? Like, I'm the same person that I've been. Yeah, this not trying to be funny, but I spent money to be on the show. That's not where I get my money from.
Charlamagne Tha God
You say you spent money?
Shamia Morton
Yeah, the lavish parties and all that stuff that cost. Oh, the money that I'm getting on the show is not enough.
DJ Envy
Goes back into investing on your personality on the show.
Shamia Morton
Yeah, Way more. By my first birthday party, the first event I had took that whole check away. So it's not like I'm not trying to be funny. I enjoy the show and I love it and I appreciate it for the platform that I'm getting to expose things like my music. But at the end of the day, it's not a deal breaker for me. Like, you are. Our friendship is. The love I have for you is so at the end of the day when this is done. And if they say, oh, we don't need you next season, I'm here, we should still be able to move forward with our friendship.
Charlamagne Tha God
Envy texted me a question to ask you. He said, that's a lie. ESSENCE published an article that claimed you nor Portia are innocent in your friendship drama. What are your thoughts on that perspective?
Shamia Morton
Okay, essence, thank you. I mean, that's all on your pov, you know, I can't change. And a lot of people in the comments say, you know, oh, shmia's no victim, Portia's no victim. They're the same. Whatever. Well, you know, hey, we're friends. We've been friends for a long time. So, you know, hey, we probably are a lot alike. That's not a bad thing. I think she's a good person.
DJ Envy
So this is another question. I ain't like this question, though, but so enlighten us.
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DJ Envy
What is it about these Africans? Lol. You have one, Portia has one. I didn't ask that question.
Shamia Morton
Hold on. Let me tell you this. I had my African before. It was cool to have an African. All right? This was back in the day. I've been with my African for 11 years.
DJ Envy
That sounds crazy.
Shamia Morton
This is. This is pre. This is when I got crap for being with an African. This is back in the day when y' all were posting the whole starter kit with the Chanel bag and the ashy feet and the. That was like, the African starter kit. That's the African starter kit. That's what y' all was posting on. That's the meme that was going on. That was the meme. Thank you. Come on. You know it. The meme used to go around, and then I even had people be ugly about it. It was like, you better get him tested. You better make sure you don't have aids, you know? It was nasty work. What? Yeah. This was like our people.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what we call.
Shamia Morton
Thank you. Thank you. That's crazy. And it was all the nastiness, and then there was this new wave of get you an African, and it was all glorified. And I'm like, well, hold on. Because when I got with my husband, y' all were being mean about it. I lost friendships over that. One of my. One of my old homegirls actually said, you know, he's got about five wives, girl. I'm like, where are these wives? Because we got married in a Catholic church in Kenya, and they actually have to do a full publication of, like, in the press, in the news, everything they say, this man, Jerome Mwangi, will be wedding Shamia Yvonne Morton on this day at this church, if anybody objects to it.
Charlamagne Tha God
And we had tongues just now.
Jess Hilarious
No, that was her husband.
Shamia Morton
That's my husband's name. Oh, I just heard her face. No, so we had to do a whole. And then, you know, with the whole scam and stuff, like, you have to go and get cleared with the embassy to marry. So if he had all these extra wives, I would know about it. They would have come up in his profile. Like, it's the weirdest thing to me. And yeah, I was like, I had to stand 10 toes down.
Charlamagne Tha God
I love my opinion, by the way.
DJ Envy
You and me both.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. Eleven years ago, you didn't know Africans were balling something wrong with you. You weren't paying attention.
Shamia Morton
They were real nasty with it. Like, yeah, you gonna marry you okay, girl, be careful. Cause and I'm like.
Charlamagne Tha God
And he's the president of Dominion Energy, was it?
Shamia Morton
Yeah, you've been doing your homework.
DJ Envy
He counts money. That's what he does.
Shamia Morton
He counts money.
Charlamagne Tha God
I like. Because you know what? Like, I like seeing black people because they are black. I like seeing black people do things that you don't normally see people see people doing. And we always scream about going to learn a trade, right? Like, everybody can't be a celebrity. Everybody can't be an afraid. But he actually has a whole H Vac company.
Shamia Morton
Company several. He does mergers, acquisitions. So he. They build and manufacture H Vacs from, you know, they. Government buildings, airports. Oh, you know, oh, filthy, filthy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Filthy rich.
DJ Envy
Filthy. Bought a Cullinan for last birthday a couple of years ago.
Shamia Morton
Last year.
DJ Envy
Rolls Royce. Rolls Royce for you, sir. Rolls Royce for you.
Jess Hilarious
I'm so happy that you are glowing and that you got your music, you got your lovely husband. I know. I seen in a recent episode that you was talking about your former husband who was abusive. And you said when you were married to him for a year, you got divorced and you feel like people turn their backs on you.
Shamia Morton
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
How did that impact you moving forward? Like, did it impact your.
Shamia Morton
Your.
Jess Hilarious
Like, did it put a strain on relationships, Friendships, platonic friendships and.
Shamia Morton
Yeah, because, you know, in a divorce, it's like they got. Pick a side. Like, they. And they always go to the. The richer side. So, like, all those people kind of. They didn't really believe me when I talked about the abuse in the relationship. And it was fine because the people that I love in my family, they did. They saw it and I had to just move forward. Like, some of the same people that introduced me to him. And you see it on the show how, like, the lady that actually introduced me to my ex end up calling me and apologizing. Like, this was in 2008. All these years later, she finally sees that. Oh, my goodness. Because he did it to somebody else. And she just was. She was crying, she was apologetic on the phone. Like, I'm so sorry I didn't believe you. I just thought he. And I was like, you know, I get it. Like, he is this popular guy. He, you know, he represented Amazing artists in the. In the industry. He was that guy, like, CPA accountant, like, all the things. And it was just better to just go over there because of his popularity and his finances. And I was just a regular cheerleader that was just, you know, graduated college and was just figuring it out. You know, I will say it's good.
Jess Hilarious
That she apologized, because you don't ever see people when they wrong come back when they. When they figure out that they were wrong and apologize.
Shamia Morton
Oh, yeah, they're all. They're all very much. Even if they don't apologize for it, I'll get a DM or I'll get something from some of the people in that crew. They'll be like, hey, you're doing your thing. I'm proud of you. Or, hey. So it's like. To me, it's like a nod of, like, all right, cool. I'm like, thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know you cheered for the Hawks for over a decade, right?
Shamia Morton
No, no, no. I've worked in the NBA for. Because I'm doing, like, sideline reporting and in game hosting for the NBA. But I did cheer for five years.
Charlamagne Tha God
You cheered for five, and then you turned into a sideline?
Shamia Morton
Yep.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow. Why'd you stop doing it?
Shamia Morton
What? In game hosting and sideline reporting? I'm still doing it. Yeah. I just did All Star and everything.
Jess Hilarious
She said she don't really need to be on the show because she have so many other gigs. Like a Jamaican.
Shamia Morton
I do.
Charlamagne Tha God
That is interesting.
Shamia Morton
I like working hard.
Charlamagne Tha God
So if you. You clearly don't need the money. You got an actual career. Has the show, Real Housewives been everything you thought it was gonna be so far?
Shamia Morton
Absolutely. I mean, look where I'm at now. I'm here hanging out with y' all. You wouldn't have even known me if it weren't for the show. You know, like, you would've known me as Portia's friend. But there wouldn't have been any value to me coming and hanging out with y' all. So the show does have its perks.
Jess Hilarious
Like this, like, you know, and that song.
Shamia Morton
And my song. Yes, exactly, Jess. Like, I wanna be able to showcase my music, you know, and then also bring awareness to children with special needs. When I had my daughter, there was so much I didn't know and didn't have the resources and didn't know where to go, because people that look like me or the cool kids aren't supposed to have kids that have disabilities. And it happened to me, and it was like, oh, my goodness, this is my New life. This is my new normal. I gotta figure all these things out. So just being able to have this platform to showcase and shed a light on that kind of stuff is even amazing to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is it true that you and Candy Bars had the same surrogate?
Shamia Morton
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Shamia Morton
Yes. Shadina.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, Shadina.
Shamia Morton
Her name is Shadina and she's amazing. Shout out to Shadeena. She breast cancer survivor, all the things. And that's how Shiloh was born early because of her diagnosis. And.
DJ Envy
Wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
How did you know? Did Candy recommend her?
Shamia Morton
Yeah, I met her through Candy. Absolutely. She has a surrogacy agency. It's called Surrogacy miracles. Her and Dr. Jackie own the agency together. So initially, I went through the agency to try to get a surrogate and I was like, well, I mean, you carried Blaze. You did a good job. Why don't you just carry my child?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I'm an idiot. So I never thought about it, but I was like, if you're a surrogate, you've probably done that more than once. I never thought.
Shamia Morton
Yeah, people do that. It's a bit. Yeah, exactly. That's how they make their money.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
DJ Envy
I wanted to ask about Kenya right now. Is she on pause or is she fired?
Shamia Morton
I don't really know, but I think that she never returns from the. You know, from that point. For the rest of the season, she never returns. So, I mean, I don't know if she'll be back next season. I don't even know if I'll be back. I mean, you know, we don't. I don't make those kind of decisions.
DJ Envy
And what was your thoughts on the way how Bravo handled it?
Jess Hilarious
Before you answer that. I love you, girl. I gotta.
Shamia Morton
I love you, too. Thank you so much.
Charlamagne Tha God
She was talking so bad about you.
Shamia Morton
Can we get at least a selfie before you go? Yes.
DJ Envy
Talk about Kenya and the way Bravo handled it. What was your thoughts?
Shamia Morton
You know, the network knows more than I would. They've done their. They did their homework, they did their investigation, and they felt like they made the best decision. Of course, that's my boss. I'm gonna support it. Whatever they say is what it is.
DJ Envy
Is she gonna do the reunion or. We don't know as of yet.
Shamia Morton
I don't know. I would hope. I would love to hear, you know, what her thoughts are at this point after she's seen it all. But again, I don't know.
DJ Envy
What did you think about what she did as far as the leaking and all that?
Shamia Morton
Oh, it was jaw dropping for sure to be there. I guess you had to be there to feel the attention. But I was like, you know, you hurt me. I literally was like, kenya, come on, girl. Like, that's too much. Like, that's. She was like, you don't tell me it was too much B. You. You know, and she kind of like. So after she apologized for that. But I guess if you. I guess every action has a reaction, and she felt like, this girl did this, so I'm giving it back to her. I wouldn't have handled it that way, but she did, and. And you see where we are.
Charlamagne Tha God
So can I go back to the surrogate thing for a second?
DJ Envy
Do you think about getting one?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I just. I just want. Because you actually, you. You carry the child, and then you have.
Shamia Morton
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
A surrogate. So what's the difference between the experiences?
Shamia Morton
So I had a great pregnancy with my firstborn. I had a C section, and it was fine. I'm still actively trying to get pregnant. If I was to get pregnant tomorrow, it'd be amazing. But I also, after that, had an ectopic pregnancy where I lost my left fallopian tube and was bleeding internally. And this was a year and a half ago. And so the journey to grow my family is continuous. But I think what the misconception is, people think, oh, it's a surrogate's DNA in some kind of way. No, the surrogate is like the oven to bake it in. But all the ingredients are mine and my husband's. We create embryos. And that's also a very stressful situation because you are having to do stimulations to get eggs fertilized and. And they need an implantation and all the things. And I've tried. God, I've done seven rounds of IVF. I'm going into my 80s now. Yes. All that just to. To. Yeah. Have a baby.
DJ Envy
And very expensive.
Shamia Morton
And very expensive and draining. Emotionally draining. And it's high risk because when you're injecting yourself with all these things, it puts you at risk for a stroke, heart attack. You can't work out. I'm not blaming my stomach pouch on that, but kind of. I am a little bit. But it is very, like, you know, just emotionally draining and high risk. I mean, women, we go through so much. Just the body, like, so the surrogate. I mean, it's expensive and it's all the things. But, you know, we do that because we. For love.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is the connection the same?
Shamia Morton
No. I mean, not. Not right off the bat.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Shamia Morton
Like, we lied. If I said it was no. When I First got Shiloh. I didn't even really get a chance to bond because she went straight into the nicu and it was like she was on a breathing. You know, like, it was like.
DJ Envy
You said she came early.
Shamia Morton
Yeah, she came early and she was on a breathing machine. And then she had, like all these surgeries back to back, and. And it was so, like, just emotional because it was like, is she gonna live? You know, so. Whereas my firstborn, it was like I could hold her and bond with her, but now, of course, I'm totally bonded. But I didn't have. I didn't carry her, so I didn't. There wasn't that connection.
Charlamagne Tha God
How early was she? Did she come?
Shamia Morton
34 weeks? 34 and a half.
Charlamagne Tha God
Could you break it down for me?
Shamia Morton
So like a month earlier?
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, thank you. All right.
DJ Envy
And you said you want to grow your family, so would you do surrogate again or are you thinking about doing surrogate again?
Shamia Morton
Yes, I actually.
DJ Envy
What are you gonna do with that?
Shamia Morton
I've gotten a new surrogate and I'm just hoping to get her pregnant asap. Yeah, that sounds so crazy. I want to get a pregnant.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't know. I thought she was a real woman. I didn't know she was identifying something. I'm sorry, but I'm not judging.
DJ Envy
You know what they say now also, the two new castmates, how do you like them? Do you feel like they have long standing power or do you think it's one of them? That kind of shock jocks and get up. What are your thoughts on that?
Shamia Morton
You said two new castmates.
DJ Envy
You got two new. Well, besides yourself.
Shamia Morton
Three New.
DJ Envy
Well besides yourself.
Shamia Morton
Cause you got no even. No, you got Angela, Britt, Eady, Kelly Farrell.
DJ Envy
Okay, three.
Shamia Morton
Yeah, so three. But I'm happy that you said two. Cause those are the only two I really care about, which are, you know, Kelly and Angela.
DJ Envy
And you just don't like the other one.
Shamia Morton
I don't see it for.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why.
DJ Envy
Why don't you like.
Shamia Morton
She's just not a kind person, you know?
DJ Envy
But usually the show's like that type of thing.
Shamia Morton
That's how girl groups are. You're not gonna get along with everybo. She's just not my type of girl. She said herself she's not a girl's girl. So we can see it for sure.
DJ Envy
Do you feel like a lot of times those castmates, they try to show things that they're not. Like when I watch the show sometimes and I'm looking, I'm like, dude, that.
Shamia Morton
Ain'T how you are exactly you putting it on for the cameras. But I think that our viewers and fans can see that, like, when you ain't being real, it'll come out and everything will be revealed, and that's exactly what's happening. You can't keep up with your own stories. Say you lost your insurance. Then you didn't lose your insurance license. It's like, girl, come on.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey. Do you feel like the drama associated with reality shows will distract people from all other amazing things you've ever done in your life? Like the music, the sideline reporting, the cheerleading, you know, like, just. You think?
Shamia Morton
I don't think so.
Charlamagne Tha God
For people who didn't know you and know you did all those amazing things, now, this show is kind of defining.
Shamia Morton
But see, I love that the show is allowing people to even get to know me and see me. Like, I'm getting booked for gigs and roles that I never would have gotten before the show. So, I mean, there are ebbs and flows, good and bad in it, but overall, for me right now, the good is outweighing the bad.
Charlamagne Tha God
Gotcha.
DJ Envy
I ran into Amia Thornton in Atlanta last week, and she's not on Potomac anymore. Possibility that she might be a Housewives of Atlanta. So what's your thoughts on that?
Shamia Morton
I welcome anybody that wants to be here. Like, I don't get to make those decisions. Say, oh, I just got on the show myself. So if you asking me if I'm gonna get my spot up from Mia, no, sis. But you know, if she's gonna laugh.
DJ Envy
Like, no, I'm not giving her my spot. You can try to take it up.
Shamia Morton
It's not gonna happen. But, yeah, if they find room for her, sure. Hey, girl, come on.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, I hope you and Portia figure it out.
Shamia Morton
Me too. Can you make happen? I mean, you close with Portia. Y' all share the same people.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I just won't.
Shamia Morton
Y' all have to help us figure it out.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I feel like that should be so easy, though.
Shamia Morton
It's not. Because you can't. I mean, from you, if you allow other people to just get in your ear about stuff, it's like, I think it's the show.
Charlamagne Tha God
I. I mean, I don't know this. I haven't spoken to her about this. I think it's the show because it's one thing when your friend is your friend, but now your friend is on the show, so you don't know if your friend is using y' all relationship for a storyline.
Shamia Morton
I wouldn't need that. I have so much other Story so much so to where a lot of my story got cut. Like, I've got so much happening.
Charlamagne Tha God
They're gonna go into salacious stuff, you know, they're going to Juicy for sure.
Shamia Morton
For sure.
Charlamagne Tha God
Get all that positive shit. Let's.
Shamia Morton
Let's talk about you in Portia's beach. Like, I did a whole, you know, cheer and dance camp with over 200 girls.
Charlamagne Tha God
Boring.
Shamia Morton
And exactly.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm talking about, you know, from their perspective.
Shamia Morton
I know what you're doing. Exactly. That's why I never came. That's why you won't see it, you know, but at the end of the day, for me, it doesn't do anything for me, that story. That's not the type of story I want. Like, this is my real friend, my real life. Like, and it's a hurtful thing.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you reach out to her yesterday? Cause you said she posted.
Shamia Morton
Yeah, we did. We text back. You know, she texts, congratulations, and, you know, I hope you get everything this season. Something like that. And happy birthday. I hope you have something fun planned or something. And I was like, yeah, I'm in New York, you know, hanging out. Thank you so much. It meant the world to me. So that was sweet, and it really did make my day.
Charlamagne Tha God
Got you.
DJ Envy
Now, when Portia, when y' all went on her birthday trip in Nashville, right, and she said, I should have fucked that man's husband, what. What was your thoughts?
Charlamagne Tha God
I should have fucked that man's husband.
DJ Envy
I. I fuck that woman's husband. My bad.
Shamia Morton
Oh, my God. What is this? Atlanta.
DJ Envy
It is Atlanta. It is Atlanta, though. It is Atlanta.
Shamia Morton
What up? I said, first of all, Angela is not trans. She's definitely a woman. So Charles married a woman. Let's just be clear about that. Jesus Christ. You know, it's funny at the time because we out there drinking, you know, you kicking it with your friend. You not like, whatever. They were beefing. So I knew she was being shady when she said it. Now, but I don't play about black marriage or bitches marriage, period. I want people to stay together. I don't. You know, I wouldn't play about mine, you know? And I said, of course, on watch what happens. Live that. Hey, if you can take them, you can keep them. But at the end of the day, no, that's not a laughing matter. Like, and I hate that she said it, but me and Angela weren't friends, and her and Angela weren't friends. And she was kikiing with me, her friend, right? And so we laugh. We laugh about a lot of Dark stuff that we shouldn't laugh about.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's probably joking.
Shamia Morton
We was joking. Portia doesn't want Charles to be clear, like. And for those that say, oh, she took some. That ain't her thing. Like, I know her and that ain't her thing. She didn't want Charles. She don't want Charles. She only wants what's for her. And that's just it. That's just that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. Cause that's not fair. That's not fair for beautiful women like Portia to be saying things like that. Cause then when that poor man, you know, succumbs to temptation, whose fault is that? You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying that ain't right.
DJ Envy
She was joking. I guess she was joking.
Shamia Morton
She said she was joking. But, you know, Angela's defense. I get it, girl. I understand why you would be upset. But you shouldn't be upset with me anymore. I apologize for laughing. I apologize for my shade throwing on her outfit and my part in it. All that other stuff, you gotta take that up with Portia.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Shamia Morton
Like, that ain't got nothing to do with me.
Charlamagne Tha God
This show gonna ruin a lot of great relationships.
DJ Envy
It has already. This show's been on for years.
Carlos Miller
It has.
Shamia Morton
But it can only do what you allow it to do. You're right.
DJ Envy
Well, let's continue on a positive note. Let's play your single. So introduce your single. Ladies and gentlemen, Shamir Morton. Thank you for joining us. Introduce the single.
Shamia Morton
Okay, Best friends, y' all gotta download. Never has felt the Atlanta N E V A H A D. It's on all your digital streaming platforms. Cause you never had a best friend like me. You never had. You never had. You never had. It's a portrait diss record. Somebody that. A portion diss record. No, it's a crazy. Stop how you can't.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's just capital P. Now. It's a portion dissatisfaction.
Shamia Morton
It's not a portion. Have you heard it? No.
Charlamagne Tha God
No.
Shamia Morton
You didn't listen to see. And I tried to make sure I got it up here, like. Cause I was like, they ain't gonna do me like Coco. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't even know you did music. So I'm sorry.
Shamia Morton
See? See what I'm saying?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry.
Shamia Morton
But see, but this is why this show is so great. Because now you know, and I'm here, and I'm about to play it for you, Melissa, you. And I want you to tell me what you think about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
If it's a Portia diss record. I will not agree with it.
Shamia Morton
It is not a Portia.
DJ Envy
Let's get into it right now. Ladies and gentlemen, from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, Shamia Morton. Her single is out right now. Never had downloaded. Now it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Carlos Miller
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
Shamia Morton
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Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club – Interview with Shamea Morton
Podcast Information:
Introduction
In this engaging episode of The Breakfast Club, hosts DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, and Charlamagne Tha God welcome Shamea Morton, a notable figure from The Real Housewives of Atlanta (RHOA). Shamea opens up about her journey into the spotlight, her relationships, challenges on reality TV, and personal endeavors, including her music career and surrogacy experience.
Joining Real Housewives of Atlanta
How Shamea Became an Official Cast Member
Shamea shares her longstanding friendship with Portia Williams and how it evolved into her joining RHOA as an official member. She explains the initial hesitance due to her husband’s reluctance to appear on camera but eventually convincing the producers to focus solely on her.
"I think I've always wanted to do it, but they wouldn't allow me to do it without my husband actually agreeing to come on camera. And he wasn't for it." [05:07]
Navigating Friendship Dynamics on the Show
Shamea delves into the complexities of maintaining her friendship with Portia amidst the drama and pressures of the show. She discusses how reality TV has introduced tensions and misunderstandings that weren't present before their association became public.
"It's messy, but you're not real or manufactured, because these feelings are very real." [07:58]
Relationship with Portia Williams
Long-Standing Friendship Turned Challenging
Shamea elaborates on her deep-rooted friendship with Portia, stemming from their parents being best friends. Despite their close bond before the show, Shamea notes a shift in their relationship dynamics post their inclusion in RHOA.
"We're just different because before, I was just a friend of. Now it's like, I have a mic on." [11:58]
Public Perception and Misunderstandings
The interview highlights how public perception has affected their friendship, with rumors and misrepresentations fueling misunderstandings. Shamea expresses frustration over how certain actions are edited or dramatized for the show, leading to skewed narratives.
"They were like, well, we'll be able to move forward, you know?" [05:13]
Music Career and Personal Ventures
Reviving Her Music Passion
Shamea discusses her passion for music and her recent single release. She credits RL&B Flat for helping produce her track and emphasizes the shift in the music industry towards social media as a platform for independent artists.
"So I was like, I'm going back to it." [03:29]
Future Plans in Music
With five strong songs already, Shamea contemplates releasing an EP or a full album and previews her upcoming music video.
"I just shot the video for it, so I'm gonna release that next month." [04:24]
Surrogacy Journey
Choosing Surrogacy Over Pregnancy
Shamea opens up about her decision to pursue surrogacy due to medical complications and personal circumstances. She contrasts her experiences with carrying her first child versus using a surrogate, highlighting the emotional and physical challenges involved.
"It's very expensive and draining emotionally." [31:22]
Impact of Surrogacy on Family and Bonding
She discusses the lack of initial bonding with her surrogate child, Shiloh, due to medical complications at birth, and her ongoing efforts to grow her family.
"When I First got Shiloh, I didn't even really get a chance to bond because she went straight into the NICU." [31:52]
Experiences with African Men and Stereotypes
Facing Stereotypes and Misconceptions
Shamea recounts her experiences dating African men and the stereotypes she encountered, including unfounded rumors and societal prejudices.
"It was like, you better get him tested. You better make sure you don't have AIDS, you know?" [21:46]
Marriage and Cultural Expectations
She shares insights into her marriage in Kenya, the cultural expectations, and the thorough processes required, dispelling myths about polygamy and other misconceptions.
"We got married in a Catholic church in Kenya, and they actually have to do a full publication of, like, in the press, in the news." [22:53]
Challenges on Reality TV
Managing Personal Life Under the Spotlight
Shamea discusses the difficulties of maintaining privacy and authenticity on a reality TV platform, where personal moments can become public drama.
"You can't decide what's private and what's not, you know?" [10:23]
Handling Misrepresentations and Editor Influence
She expresses frustration over how the show's editing can distort reality, leading to public misunderstandings and strained relationships.
"How much do the edits really affect it? ... you only get what, an hour? So they can't show everything." [09:34]
Personal Growth and Leadership
Embracing Leadership Roles
Shamea reflects on her transition from being a supportive friend to a leader, asserting her own identity and strength within and outside the friendship dynamic.
"I'm also a great leader. And I think that's what makes a good leader." [15:25]
Balancing Authenticity and Public Persona
She emphasizes the importance of staying true to oneself amidst the pressures of fame and the altered dynamics introduced by the show.
"I'm an open book, and the sky's the limit. Whatever I am is what I am on camera and off camera." [12:05]
Future Aspirations and Closing Thoughts
Continuing Her Multi-Faceted Career
Shamea concludes by highlighting her diverse career ventures, from music and sports reporting to her advocacy for children with special needs, underscoring the positive opportunities afforded by her visibility on RHOA.
"I want to be able to showcase my music, you know, and then also bring awareness to children with special needs." [27:15]
Optimism Despite Challenges
Despite the challenges faced on the show, Shamea remains optimistic about her future endeavors and the value the platform provides in advancing her personal and professional goals.
"The good is outweighing the bad." [34:15]
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
Shamea Morton on Joining RHOA:
"I think I've always wanted to do it, but they wouldn't allow me to do it without my husband actually agreeing to come on camera. And he wasn't for it." [05:07]
On Friendship Dynamics:
"It's messy, but you're not real or manufactured, because these feelings are very real." [07:58]
Discussing Music Career:
"So I was like, I'm going back to it." [03:29]
Surrogacy Experience:
"It's very expensive and draining emotionally." [31:22]
Handling Reality TV Challenges:
"You can't decide what's private and what's not, you know?" [10:23]
Embracing Leadership:
"I'm also a great leader. And I think that's what makes a good leader." [15:25]
Conclusion
Shamea Morton's candid discussion on The Breakfast Club offers listeners an in-depth look into her life beyond the camera lens—her struggles, triumphs, and unwavering commitment to her personal and professional growth. From navigating the intricate dynamics of reality TV friendships to pursuing her passions in music and advocacy, Shamea exemplifies resilience and authenticity.
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