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INTERVIEW: Shyne Talks 25th-Anniversary Album Tour, Diddy Doc, Belize + More
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Host 1
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
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Host 2
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Host 1
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
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Host 1
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Host 2
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Host 1
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Host 2
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Host 1
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Host 2
Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlemagne the Guy we are the Breakfast Club. I don't know why I said that. Morning everybody, It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the Guy we are The Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here as well, and we got a special guest in the building. We have Sean. Welcome, brother.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Good morning. Good morning. Good morning.
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Host 2
How you feeling?
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I am cold.
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Host 2
You cold? You used to this cold, man.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
No.
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Host 2
Yes, you are.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I am Belizean. This is why when I was here the last time, I was talking about how much Belize is paradise. And this really underpins why Belize is paradise.
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Host 2
Forgot where you came from, Sean? Did you forget them cold Brooklyn days and nights and waiting for the bus and taking the dollar van?
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Do you forget that this is beyond brick? Nothing. Yeah, it is crazy, ain't it? Nothing existed when I was in Brooklyn at this level.
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Host 1
Is it ever this cold in Brooklyn ever?
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
It's never been seven degrees, Sean.
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Host 2
You went to school in snow, where now if it's a little bit of snow, they cancel.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Yeah, it was snowing, but I don't remember it being this brick or maybe, you know, there's a lot of trauma, so I've, you know, buried some of those memories, but I don't remember being this cold.
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Host 2
Well, let's start off with saying, congratulations. You're about to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Shine album, and you also have the 25th anniversary world tour, with New York being the first stop.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Yes, that's right. That's right. The Shine album came out September 26, 2000. So we're in the year of the celebration. It was this September 26th that passed. Right. But I was working out my work status here because the last time I was here, I was here as the leader of the opposition, if I recall. So I was here as a diplomat, but then I had to transition, you know, as a worker, so I wasn't able to come earlier to start the tour. But, you know, we started all of that out. And, yeah, so now we're gonna perform and celebrate the album, you know, which was a very special album to me, Very special album to a lot of people throughout the United States and throughout the world. You know, I was at the Africa Awards in Los Angeles over the weekend. It's an African American Film critics Award. And so Ryan Coogler, who obviously, everybody knows who that is, broke the records for most Oscar nominations for Sinners. So he was getting a bunch of awards. And so when I saw him, he was like, yo, you know, we grew up to your music. And he's. He's from Oakland. But that just shows you the impact that the Shine album had. And I never got a chance to really, you know, even appreciate my career, because that album came out September 26, 2000. And by March, I was in captivity, so, like, five months.
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Host 2
You know, that's I would love for you to discuss. Right. So of course, that album came out, and it was a huge album, right? You had Bad Boys, that's Gangsta, Bonnie and Shine. Those were the singles off that album.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Then you had songs like the Commission. You had songs like N Word Gone. I would kind of change that chorus. But, like, Pharrell made that record. That's like, one of my favorite records. When you hear me perform that at King's Theater on May 2nd. It's gonna be a movie, but there were some great records on the album.
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Host 2
My question is, you were huge back then, right? And you got it locked up. You talked about it last time you were here, the amount of time you spent. And when you came out, you changed a lot, right?
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Yeah.
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Host 2
You talked about your change and, you know, you go to Jerusalem and you reading the Torah and then you getting into politics, right? And then you became the total opposite, in my opinion, of who you were as a young man, Right. At one time, you were talking gangster ish and shooting and blowing people's heads off. And you talk about stories of you carrying guns. And I've heard stories about you in the bad boy's office carrying guns and pulling out all types of nines and Glocks and all types of stuff, right? And you changed. Totally changed. You became a gentleman that was speaking positivity, trying to. Instead of promote crime, you were against it. You were talking unity, trying to get kids off the streets. But the lyrics back then, 25 years ago are still the lyrics 25 years ago. So as Shine the changed gentleman. How do you perform those records?
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I think you gotta listen to those lyrics. If you listen to De America. I'm only what you made me Young black crazy Please save me I'm dying inside can't you see it in my eyes? Maybe if you would teach me how to do a craft or trade I come off the corner Stop serving at Yay. Build schools instead of prison I stop living the way that I'm living. That's. That's poetry. That's me crying out for help. That applies today to the NBA young boys, the same way it applied to Sean back then. If you listen to, you know what you gonna do when it hit the fan? That's integrity. That's character. That's me talking about, you know, I'm telling my life story and saying that I abide by certain codes and not get my friends in trouble. And, you know, Being honest to who I am and trying to survive these streets. I don't think my album or my raps, I would say, I know were never Quentin Tarantino, Gore, you know, violent rap. I was talking about my life. I was giving you a dissertation as to what I was going through. And if you listen carefully enough, I was always saying, this is not what I want to do. I would like to escape this. But when you talk about the performance, people like Ryan Coogler and other people, regular people, grew up to my music. And so it's a celebration of that. You know, maybe when I'm performing, there might be a few words that, you know, I'll let the audience say. And I wouldn't say, but it's a celebration of the music, of the evolution. And art is not to be condemned. Right, but it's definitely not as much as what you're saying. If you listen to those, those lyrics is really telling the story of, you know, 18 year old, 19 year old that's trying to navigate the Muddy Waters of, you know, what the system created. That's how I remember. And if you go lyric for lyric, it's. You'll find a lot of, you know, please help me. This not what I really want to do, but this is what I'm doing. I gotta defend myself, you know, I gotta protect myself. That was the energy that I was given.
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Host 2
And I'm not judging, don't think I'm judging you. Cause I grew up to this music. I played his music, I DJ'd his music. But it's always interesting when I have somebody like yourself or even, you know, Mace. Cause Mace was probably one of the first one that we seen do it. Where Mace is, you know, talking, you know, bullets hit off the car, bling, bling, ding, ding, whatever. And then when he comes out as a pastor and then he comes back as a rapper, it's like, well, can he do those lyrics right?
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Yeah.
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Host 2
And it's not a judge. It's that when people see people change, they're for it. They agree with it. All right? I agree with the change. Because some people don't have the balls to do it. Some people don't have the. Haven't evolved to do it. But then when they do it, it's like, that's a good thing. I understand why he did it, where he's going with it. But then when it goes back to the rapping, it's like, well, how do you go back and forth? And I'm like, when I hear rappers like, you know, fuck Y' all niggas hope you die slow death as I coke test See Dolores protest can't fuck with you weak rap niggas which with your gay ass raps running around talking this and that, I'm like, how does Shine do that? You know what I mean? But then on the other side, be like, please, to my friends at Belize, you know, I'm trying to get the kids like I just is. And I'm not judging, I'm just asking.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Yeah, but I think creativity, we were talking about that in the green room. Creativity is not as simple as, you know, you just read it. That's a, that's a poem. That's a work of art that people love and this is a celebration of that. And even in my evolved state, I still help artists in Belize and I still support artists, whether it's Offset or Quavo or Pusha T or all these young kids that I see and I run into them and we talk and I inspire them. I'm not here to tell them, you know, well, you shouldn't rap like this or you should rap like that. So, you know, my creative expressions should be studied in Harvard, should be in a museum. They're enshrined in history, so it's not something that I'm ashamed of. That was a young Shine. That's how he felt, that's what he was going through. And, and he expressed himself. And so celebrating that expression, this is not for, you know, a 12 year old kid or 13 year old kid to come to my concert. You know, these are adults that are going to be in the room celebrating that body of work. Now, if not now, if you're asking me about my new album, that's not what I'm going to be saying.
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Host 2
And I would hope not. You're not sleeping in the streets.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
But, but I think, I think, I think it would be, it would be very unfair to deprive, you know, people that love that body of work.
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Host 2
Correct.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
From that celebration. And as I said, there's a way for me to do it. Right. I don't, I don't, I don't necessarily need to, you know, there's, there's crowd participation. Right. So I could, you know, who want to.
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Host 2
But I.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
You know what I mean?
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Host 2
What type of, what type of brother was slay and do bad things in the street?
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Bad boy. Like I'm. Do what I'm. Thank you. Thank you, Lauren.
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Host 1
I mean, envy has a point though. I mean, but I, I think you probably got a lot of this even before this Tour when you, I mean just as a politician now what people.
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Host 2
Know cuz he really ain't performed since we've seen him, right? I think he did.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
So the great thing is to wait and see what is Sean going to do?
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Host 1
What's the set list?
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Is he going to set. It's the, that's the album we see in a suit. You got away. That's another thing.
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Host 2
You can't come in.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Why can't I? Hold on, hold on, hold on. My, my, my good brother. Hold on. Who did it? Who was the first one to do it with the fitted, fitted low going in the court with the Gucci suit with the T. Come on, come on Envy. Come on, Envy. Right? And look at, look at, look at my brother again. Jeezy. I just saw Jeezy at Art Basel.
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Host 2
Jay did it, Jeezy did it.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
But Jeezy performs his, his, his residency right now in this tuxedo, right? This is hip hop. There's no, there's no one way to be hip hop. And then, you know, I, I, I appreciate the question, but I go back to you with the dexterity and the color of hip hop. Hip hop has always been so multifaceted and multi layered with where Jay Z would be wearing, you know, his best suit in corporate America, but then still be talking about, you know, all the drugs that he was trafficking. Right? It was like, oh well, you can't be in corporate America with the Doug Morrises and the Sylvia Rhones and you know, whoever else and talk about drug trafficking. No, Hip hop always breaks the rules because hip hop is an expression of art and there's no right or wrong way to do art. And so the 25th anniversary tour is a celebration of that art. And there'll be a way to do that, to be honest, to who I am today.
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Host 2
What changed your mind? I think last time you were up here you were like, you weren't thinking about performing and you said the only time that you think you would perform is if it was like Grammys or a BET and they were showing you love and that you weren't interested in performing. What changed your mind?
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I mean, 25 years is that's a milestone. People don't really get to celebrate a 25th anniversary and still be relevant 25 years later. And also I'm no longer in the House of Representatives, so my focus shifted somewhat. I'm still focused on becoming the next Prime Minister of Belize at some point. I had a 2030 agenda and so I'm way ahead of schedule on that. I still focus on helping the people in Mesopotamia, which is a constituency I used to represent. But when I lost my seat, you know, I had a few things that I'd been delaying due to being in the legislator. So now I'm involved in real estate development for tourism in Belize. I get to finish my memoir. God bless you.
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Host 2
Thank you.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I have film projects. Like, I have a lot to do that I couldn't do because I was in the legislator. And I'm one of those people that's singular obsessed with whatever it is I am doing. And I just didn't feel comfortable focusing much on the creative as I did when I was in the legislature. Now I'm not. So I have a couple years before the next election to do this. And this is not random. It's my 25th anniversary. I'm not gonna be able to celebrate my 25th anniversary ever again. Yeah. So it's a great way to celebrate 25 years of shine, the first album, and to create new music.
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Host 2
I think it's dope because, I mean, I'm from New York, so I remember the impact that record had on New York.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Yeah.
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Host 2
But I also feel a little bad for you as well. Right. And the reason I say that is when that album came out, I don't think you ever got a chance to enjoy it.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Yeah.
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Host 2
Because at that same time, you were on court and you never got a chance to go to court because you went. You got locked up. So you never got a chance to enjoy the fruits of your labor during that time.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
October, November, December, pick jury. January ready for trial. February, convicted, March 16. So I think not just me, but the people that love the music never got the chance to celebrate it. So this is really a celebration, you know, and we're going to bring some special guests to help me celebrate from the hip hop world, from the dancehall world. Yeah. It's going to be an incredible.
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Host 2
So what do you say to people? One last question on it. What do you say to people that say, Sean, is this about the money?
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Money? No. Come on. Nah, that's irrelevant. That's not a. You don't take these steps in life just to get a check. I've been good. I spent millions of dollars in Belize in politics, and that's how I became the leader of the opposition. Inconsequential, you know, you just gotta do things. Which is in line with what I had said to you. It would have to be something special. And so this is special. The 25th anniversary is special. The albums that I'm going to come out with are attached. I think if you go back to that interview I mentioned it, that I would do albums that were attached to the film projects. So I never put out the album for the honorable Shine documentary. So that's going to be a specially curated album. Then I have the TV series, the bio TV series about my life. That's another album. Then we have the Motion picture. That's the final album. And then I would, by that time, be ready for the elections. So, you know, what should I do? Should I just sit around for three years and not do anything? Like what you mentioned is the furthest thing from my mind. It's just, how do I spend my time and what have I been neglecting? What have I not been doing that I could do? You know, when you think about all that I've been through politically, been through a lot. I'm writing a book on that. You know, there was a coup in my party. You know, they tried to overthrow me. They broke all types of laws. I had to take them to court like it was. That was a movie within itself. And so I lost my seat because I took all that I had and gave it to my colleagues because I was a leader. So I had. I took. I took what I thought was enough for myself, but I made sure, because in Belize, parliamentary system of governance, you can't become prime minister unless you have a majority of the seats in the House of Representatives. And as the leader, you're responsible for getting everyone to 16. So we need 16 seats. So I made a promise. I'm their leader. We're in the battlefield. It's bad. We all about to go down, but I'm not going to turn around and be like, all right, well, let's get in the tank. And they going to figure it out. I made sure everybody had tanks, and I made sure everyone was good. So that was a lot. So now as I catch my breath and I think about, you know, what to do next, I'm grateful for my own sanity. Yeah. And for my, you know, my. My emotional stability, spirituality that I have something to do, which is incredible, to be able to celebrate my 25th anniversary, to make new projects, to being, you know, to be able to go to California and go to Dr. Dre's house and. And, you know, to go in the studio and for him to play beats for me. That's. That's a blessing. Yeah. That's a miracle. Like, a lot of people can't go to California and get in front of Dre. So. Yeah. So, like, that's where I'm at with my art and what I'm doing now in life. And as I said, the projects, the real estate projects, you know, being able to work with somebody like Don Poo, you know, Robert Cummings, you know, Brooklyn Chop House. To open a Brooklyn Chop House in Belize with a resort, you know, like, so. So I have a lot of blessings, very fortunate. And I never shied away from who I was as an entertainer. I reject the idea that, oh, well, if you're an entertainer, just be an entertainer. Just be. Be an athlete, you know, you shouldn't be involved in politics. I'm not going to get involved in American politics. That's y'. Alls. That's Yalls problem or whatever it is. But I just believe that hip hop is so diverse and we could do anything. You know, we were. Or are we fashion designers, you know, movie producers, restaurateurs, hoteliers. Like, that's just. That's always been hip hop. Speaking of our problem, do you have citizenship in the US or is that you ain't worried about it no more? I'm a 01 worker, so. Extraordinary ability worker, so I have a visa as a 01 extraordinary ability worker, so I could live and work in the United States. Oh, okay, okay. And then when you a couple months ago teased the show for your 25th anniversary, you hinted at a world tour. So are we getting that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brooklyn is special. So we start there and then we're gonna announce the rest of the show dates. Yeah, yeah. And you know, incredibly, King's Theater, I grew up blocks away, literally five blocks away from King's Theater. When we first came to Brooklyn, when we first immigrated to Brooklyn, we immigrated to Church avenue in East 18th street, which is like up the street from King's Theater. So, you know, I had other offers. Live Nation, different people. But King's Theater is special, so it's going to be real special. And this is what I'm saying for me, you know, when you ask the question, like, that's the furthest thing. Like, you know, I'm. I'm in an elevated place, mean money of trying to keep, you know, my mind, my spirit, my focus. And these things are blessings to go from not being able to come to the United States for all those years. Then I came as a diplomat, and I took my diplomat responsibility serious. So I wasn't. So definitely when you were asking me about rap, I'm focused on the legislator. Right. So I was on that. And then when I lost the government, took away my diplomatic passport and didn't even give me time to transition to into my work visa, maybe thinking that because of the climate, I wouldn't have been able to get a visa. So even people were praying that, you know, I just be in Belize in the drain somewhere, washed up. So to be able to return, you know, as a 01 extraordinary ability visa worker, you know, is a blessing. You know, it really is a blessing to be able to return after all this time and to celebrate with people who love Shine and love the Shine legacy.
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Host 1
There's so much conversation right now around, like immigration and all these things. For people who don't understand, like the, the visa process when you're a diplomat and what they require of you, like how all that works, like just break it down a bit.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Well, that's a bit different than the O1 visa. So a diplomatic visa is still not guaranteed. The Homeland Security and Department of State and the president was the ultimate boss. They can, you know, revoke anyone's visa, they can deny anyone's visa. Not because you're a diplomat, they'll give you a visa. You know, if you're a diplomat that's involved in corruption and, you know, you're a threat to national security of the United States. I know people in government right now in Belize and in other countries who can't come to the States even though they're a diplomat. So that in itself was a great thing for me because obviously the United States looked at me as a legitimate partner that they had confidence in. So that was great, but it's never guaranteed. So now as a worker again, it shows that all that I've done throughout the last, you know, 20 something years, 27 years since I was incarcerated, 16 years I was deported, the rehabilitation, transformation, contributions to my community and Belize and the contributions here in the States, you know, the partnerships that I've developed with Democrats and Republicans when I was here as a diplomat, you know, my good friend Representative JA Moore from South Carolina invited me to the House in South Carolina, and that's a Republican House. And they, you know, recognized me in the House. And I met with, you know, the speaker of the House was a Republican, you know, the leader of the Republicans down there. And I've developed relationships, you know, with both because I believe that's important for Belize. And so all these things play a part in when they're looking at, you know, what you're coming here to do. Because, you know, I don't, as I said, I don't want to get into the politics of immigration, but I could understand that there are concerns about what people are going to come here and do. That's a valid concern.
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Host 2
But you, you were convicted, convicted felon here in the States. Was it difficult to get your visa back here when it's not diplomatic? Cause usually when people are convicted, even if it's a small crime, USA brings you back. Especially other places, Canada.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
This is what I'm telling you. It's been a long process. So it's been 16 or 17 years since I've been deported. So the way the immigration laws work is there is a waiver process. So this is not unique to shine anyone that was convicted, unless it was murder or torture or terrorist activity, anyone can get a waiver, but it's discretionary. And that's why I was explaining to you the way I conducted myself when I was coming here. It's not like I was coming here and I was taking advantage or taking the opportunity for granted. I built relationships, you know, I gave speeches, you know, promoting Belize, U.S. relations. And, you know, I was a positive role model, and I continue to be a positive role model even after I lost my seat, you know, but so I made. I made the case. And I am an extraordinary ability worker. You know, I was nominated for Grammys, I won Grammy, you know, sold over 40 million records. And I'm still relevant. I put out a number one documentary with Walt Disney. You know, I got, you know, distribution deals with, you know, the major record labels. Right. So, yeah, it's a little bit different. Right. But, you know, to the person that's there that made a mistake, never give up. And, you know, you live your life and you rebuild yourself, you rehabilitate and, you know, there is a waiver. Right. And you just have to have faith. And. And for those that have an opportunity to be here, you know, don't take it for granted, because there are a lot of people that would like this opportunity.
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Host 2
Absolutely.
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Host 1
What would you say to people. And I've seen you talk about, you know, your relationship or lack thereof with Diddy, but what would you say to people who feel like you're finally getting kind of like. I mean, the support that a lot of people didn't give you back when the trial was happening because Diddy was like the mega superstar, but now people see him in a different light, so people are more kind of open to hearing anything that doesn't make him like this big, mega perfect person.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Well, Diddy's not really interrelated with anything that I'm doing right now. I think that I've been able to Build my legacy. And I've always had the support of the hip hop community. There was a point where, like, the hip hop community, you remember, they kind of hated Diddy when I went away, and they didn't want anything to do with him. But, you know, being the charlatan, the. The very convincing person that he is, he knows how to get everybody, you know, back in line. But I've always had support, you know, throughout my incarceration. You know, Jay Z was coming to Rikers island on the Maybach, you know, when Irv G, God bless his soul, was at the height of his power in Murder Inc. They all came up there to try to sign me. Nas, you know, Dr. Dre. I was just talking to my guy Imani Helly, who was managing Kesha Cole and Future and a bunch of, you know, superstars. But Manny, Manny, so he. When he first discovered Keisha, it was between him and Dr. Dre because Dr. Dre had this new kid called the Game, and they wanted a verse from Shine. And Manny, who I came up with on Flatbush, my guy, we started in the Cradle, he wanted the record for his artist, but everybody wanted a Shine record, but it only could be one. And I gave it to Manny because of our brotherhood. So I wouldn't say that. You know, people. People always embrace Shonda. When I came out, remember, I did. I did. I did a deal while I was away.
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Host 1
Yeah.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Went number one again despite. Remember. And, you know, I did the. I don't know if XXL people. Remember xxl. The Death before the Sauna cover and the Most Hip Hop Most Wanted cover. And I was always telling people who Diddy was. The irony, I guess, is just that, well, now, you know, everything had. Everything. Well, everything has collapsed and every. And the curtain has been removed, and now it's like. It's, you know, irrefutable for most people. Everything that I said back then. But then for me, it's like I'm gone. It's like, you know, Pharrell in the clips, you know, respect to them on. On that great album where, you know, that record where he says, I'm so. I'm so far gone. Like, I'm. You know, as soon as they. They want it, I don't want it no more. I'm somewhere else. So it's like for me, I'm not. I'm not there.
- [31:59]
Host 2
I don't want to say glad, right? But are you glad God sat you down when he did, seeing that everything that happened out of it? Cause, you know, when it happened I know you probably was f the world. But now when you see all this, you think to yourself, damn, I could have been. Maybe not part of it, but in.
- [32:17]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
The mix of it, well, I definitely wasn't gonna be a part of it.
- [32:20]
Host 2
I said in the mix of it. You know what I mean? You ever look back and be like, damn, maybe that was the reason why I sat down.
- [32:26]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I mean, you know, it's tough, man. You know, all the pain that my mom been through, I wouldn't wish incarceration on anybody. I don't wish that on Diddy. You know, I pray for him, but I don't want to take away from the victims in his case and the justice.
- [32:42]
Host 2
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- [34:05]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
School up and running.
- [34:06]
Host 2
Today, after all the hard work, y' all finally finished it. So you have that feeling of accomplishment. You did it.
- [34:14]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Then your dad throws you the keys.
- [34:16]
Host 2
And says those three magic words, all yours son. Yep, that same car belonged to your grandpa and that your dad helped him fix is yours. Three Generations right there, keeping the tradition alive. But if you ask dad to really keep the tradition going, you need to get insurance. And you already know you need to get State Farm. Because your agent, well, he gets tradition, too. His dad was an agent, his grandpa too. So he gets you.
- [34:46]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Generation to generation.
- [34:48]
Host 2
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- [35:58]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Things people love that they want, but it's not something that, you know, I would ever wish on my worst enemy. So I definitely. I'm just grateful to have been able to endure what God had planned for me, the journey. And I made choices. I made a choice to defend myself, and that came with consequences. So I hope that I could be a deterrent to young people out there and to people out there in general. Think before you make a choice. Are there going to be consequences? I chose to defend myself. I don't shy away from that. One of the people that were injured, she came forward in 2024 and said, oh, explicitly, it was Diddy that shot her, not Shine. If she would have said that in 2001, I would have probably beat my case and they would have accepted my defense claim. But no, I could never say that. I'm glad that the difficult, painful things happened to me, but I'm grateful that I was able to endure those difficulties, because endurance is what leads to Greatness. So anybody that's listening right now, and so many of us are going through things at the Oscar level, at the janitor level, at the intern level. Whatever you're going through, if you can just endure, if you can just have the stamina to keep going, the greatness is at the end of that journey.
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Host 2
That was rumored that they ask you to be part of the Diddy doc.
- [37:30]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
You know, I saw. I saw Alex that directed the film. That's her name, the Reckoning video. Yeah, yeah, I know it was Alex.
- [37:40]
Host 1
Because I heard that, too. Remember, I hit you and I'm like, hey, what happened?
- [37:44]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
And I told you I'm coming out with a new album, and you ain't saying nothing. Listen, I'll be like, she wanted to scoop, right? So I'm like, listen, you know, I'm coming out with a new album, new tour, all that. I'm thinking she gonna go back. Well, listen, Sean said he working on a new album, but he gonna, you know, pop up on this.
- [38:01]
Host 1
I said anything, though.
- [38:02]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
You ain't. No, I wanted you to say, that's why I hit you with that. No, I didn't know.
- [38:06]
Host 1
I thought you were saying that, like, when the time is right. I didn't know you wanted me to say it.
- [38:10]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I thought, you know, you got to.
- [38:11]
Host 1
Be specific with me. You got to be. You got.
- [38:13]
Host 2
So did they reach out? But.
- [38:15]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
But she said she did. But I tell you to. I tell you honestly, I'm so focused on me and Belize and all the great things that are before me. If you look at it, when the thing started happening to Diddy, I was never talking to the American media. There's this degenerate journalist in. And Belize. I won't mention his name and give him any spotlight, but he's the one that was working for my ops in my political party, trying to tear me down. And so he would always come with these gotcha questions and want to incite and want to, you know, paint me like I was incarcerated. I was deported. I had nothing to do with this. You know, this guy already ruined my life. You trying to ruin my life again? I had nothing to do with that. And so I would have to. As an elected official, I would have to answer those questions. But I never jumped into the situation when it came to the American media. So I would get, you know, expressions of interest from NBC, abc, cnn, tmz, Wall Street Journal, everybody. And I would decline because I just wasn't interested in participating in that. So Alex says she did reach out to me. She probably Did. But I saw her. Congratulations to her. She was nominated for a Director's Guild award over the weekend. So I saw her at the DGA ceremony. Congratulations to her. I didn't see the documentary, but I heard that it's great, it's powerful, it's award winning worthy. I heard. I was in the documentary, even though I didn't speak. But obviously they told the truth about what I've been saying. So nothing that I'm saying is different than what I've said before, but I didn't watch it because I. I just. That's my trauma. So. So without getting into what he did to Cassie and what he did to all the other people that have accused him. And I see that, like, there's some people that say, oh, well, you know, well, Cassie wanted it, or, yeah, she. That's what she signed up for. You know, we all can't be wrong, right? So it's like, I know what he did to me as far as sending me to prison. He. He was one of the most powerful people in the world, and he used his money and his power to make sure that witnesses lied. People went in there not to say, listen, Sean was defending Diddy because I owned up to having the weapon. There was no dispute to that. But it was a matter of self defense. And he had the power to make sure that if people went in there, they told the truth. And Sean was defending all of us. He didn't do that. He said, listen, somebody gotta go down. And he wasn't a gentleman. He didn't say, listen, listen, just cop out or this is how we gonna do it. I'm gonna make sure. Family good for life. You good for life. But we need you to take this hit. No. He was like, you gonna take the hit? Because the DA was offering me 13 years, so I couldn't even get a reasonable plea. And then I think the judge offered me like, seven years. But I say all that to say what he did to me I would never do to another human being. Worst thing in the world to send somebody to prison. So I could imagine all these other things that people are saying, but his celebrity is so loud. Was so loud. And you could still see it creeping in sometimes because you see people come out and start attacking the victims. It was the same thing that kind of happened to me where after a certain point, people were like, shut up. We don't want to hear about that. You know, let's party. Let's drink Ciroc. So I don't want to. I don't want To. I don't even want to talk about that. But I respect my responsibility to you, to the audience, to. You know, when you text me, I told you when I come up here, you can ask me whatever.
- [42:30]
Host 1
And that's why I didn't mention anything, because I felt like it was unfair to bring you into that conversation because we're reporting on dating this documentary, and it's like, oh, well, Shine in new music. So when you said you were willing to come and talk, I was like, all right, I'll make sure it happens so that you can have your own conversation about that. You're good.
- [42:44]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
You're good. I like how you got. I like how you got.
- [42:46]
Host 1
She just slid out of that one.
- [42:47]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
She's great. She's slid.
- [42:48]
Host 1
I do have one more question, though. I know you said you want to kind of move past that stuff, but I know when you dropped the honorable Shine documentary, Diddy's team has sent you that cease and desist trying to stop it, right?
- [42:57]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
They said that the Disney ain't no better to send me foolishness like that. But, yeah, you know, congratulations to my guy Jason, a do over there at Disney and scape. He was. He got the Vanguard Award at the Africa ceremony. Yeah, you know, the documentary was great. Number one, one of the most successful documentaries that Disney ever put out. And I told my story. I didn't tell the Diddy story. Yeah, you know, respect to ALEX and to 50, you know, congratulations to them. That was the story that they told on behalf of the victims. And in all fairness, I see a lot of people attacking 50 trying to bastardize the legitimate pain and suffering of those victims. But without 50, Alex might have had a hard time with her project. And, yes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but, you know, they did the same thing to me. Everybody was like, yo, shut up. You know, let's drink Ciroc, Right? Even people that respected me and loved me that was like, damn, Sean, you put me, you know, like, yo, Diddy's the man. He's Michael Jackson. Like, what you want us to do? Right? So. So I feel the pain of the victims, Cassie in particular, and everyone that went through what they went through. But I didn't want to tell the Diddy story. So that's the beautiful thing about my documentary. The documentary, the Honorable Shine. If you haven't seen it, go see it on Hulu. That's the Shine story. And he just happens to be a footnote in that because that's a part of the story. And Disney will tell you. I Let them do what they're supposed to do, because documentaries are supposed to have the utmost integrity. And. And I'm not supposed to be in there saying, oh, I want this out. I want that in. And I was busy with the legislators, so I made myself available. I opened up as much as I could and provided my family. And I didn't see it until it was done. Saw it twice. So that's why I said, so if I only saw my own documentary twice, I'm definitely not watching the Diddy documentary to traumatize myself. There's nothing I could gain from that. Everything that anybody could say, I know to be a fact. Right? Even if it's not a fact, I know the potential. And the same way nobody wanted to believe me. I'm not going to be that person and disbelieve those victims. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm sorry, because he did it to me. So I'm not hating. I don't want him to be in the position he's in, but I know what he's capable of, I think. When I was in Atlanta, I did an interview with my guy Tigger, and I said, and I'll repeat it, I pray that Diddy rehabilitates, that he reforms. Maybe he should be glad that God sat him down because maybe he was on the verge of ODing on those drugs and whatever else it is that he's doing. So maybe this is a blessing for him that he didn't get that rico, because if you look at the, the, the. The charges, there was a case there for rico. So he's very blessed. But I just hope that he. He is able to, because I reform, I rehabilitate, even though I was defending myself. But there was a lot going on as, as young Shine, and I had to make sure that I never put myself or my family in that position again. And so to this day, you know, it's not tried by 12 or carry by 6. I just let the Lord take me because I'm not, you know, I'm not going to do that to my family. I'm going to do that to my daughter. And so my whole mind, my whole. Everything has changed. I just bring so much positivity and great energy to the planet. And. And that's what I pray for him. So it's not that I'm condemning him, that I wish he got the RICO or I wish he does his entire time. I just hope that when he returns to the streets that, you know, he can return with A genuine transformation and dedicate the rest of his life, you know, to making people's lives better and to healing and, you know, making a positive contribution.
- [47:26]
Host 2
What's one thing that's misunderstood about Sean?
- [47:32]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I think the most difficult thing for me, I would say, is in Belize, not necessarily here in the States. I think here in the States, I started off kind of as the Diddy protege, but then I was able to break through that, you know, with the. With the number one album while I was incarcerated and becoming a larger than life figure. And then going to Belize and getting elected to the house and doing things that are just unprecedented for hip hop. No person, no rapper, no R and B has ever made it to the House of Representatives, and definitely not the leader of the opposition in the House of Representatives. But my. I think the one thing I would focus on is in Belize, which is all being taken care of now by the grace of God. But my political enemies used to say that, oh, I'm a deportee, I'm a criminal. Forgetting the Grammys, forgetting that, you know, I wrote and produced and published over 40 million albums with Usher, with Lil Wayne, Notorious B.I.G. puff Daddy Mace. But they would just equate me to a deportee criminal. And I'll never forget when I first signed my record deal in 1998, I bought my platinum Rolex, bought a big chain diamond plate, and I got on the plane to go to Belize. Belize was always a part of me. Like, my mom still speaks Belize and she can't even speak a proper sentence of English. We love Belize so much. I used to go to Belize every summer, so it hurt me, if any. And I'm like. I'm like a duck, you know, water usually just flows off my back. But if one thing so misunderstood and hurt was when people would try to deny me my patriotism and my love for my country and then my integrity, because it's like I'm shy. Like, I sat in prison for 10 years because of character and integrity. I'm not that guy. I'm not that guy that fronts that says one thing and does the other thing. Like, I didn't do that for Diddy because he was. He was trying to crush me. I did that for me and for what I believe in and for the people that believed in me. So, yeah, that's the one thing that was misunderstood, that I was only in Belize because I was deported and I had to be in Belize. I didn't want to be in Belize. And so I got involved in politics so I could get Back to America. And watch, watch. When he get back to America, he's not going to come back. So the best thing. That's why I say God is so great. So the best thing is going back. So I come here for a couple weeks and I work. Nah, it's not even turning on me. It just feels good to prove people wrong and for the people that believed in me, because a lot of people that believe in me in Belize, and to vindicate them, for them to feel good and then becoming the prime minister of a country, you know, the current prime minister of Belize, as much as him and I, you know, I used to. Used to be me. I used to go against his whole team. It's 26 of them. Sometimes it's one of me in the House of Representatives. I shut it down. The speaker of the House gotta close down the House of Representatives. They throw me out. But I have a lot of respect for him because he's been there for 30 years. He's, you know, I think maybe late 50s, early 60s. And so he was an area representative. He was a deputy prime minister. And then he became the prime minister. And that's what I talk about. Endurance and stamina. And then he got his time. People criticize him. People say, he's not the best, this, he's not the best that, but he got his time. I'm gonna get my time, but I gotta go through my journey. So part of my journey is building the relationship with the people of Belize. So I got to go through the hits. Oh, he's a deportee. Oh, he's a criminal. Oh, he don't love Belize. Oh, he only did prove him wrong. So then those same people gonna be like, yeah, all right. And continue to have the conversation about policy, about education, how we can, you know, provide student loans. We don't even have student loans in Belize. You know, how we could develop the economy, how we could develop, you know, the tourism industry. I think the tourism minister is one of the best tourism ministers that we've ever had. And he's on the other side of the political divide, where we're opponents, right? But. So. So that's the one thing. But. But it's a good thing, because I get to prove people wrong and I get to build relationships with people because I don't hold grudges. I'm not malicious, right? So. So now people could see. So we could get past that and we could get to policy. And that's how I become the prime minister one day, because now I would have shown them Everything, all that they said about me, I would have disproved. And I could come to them with a genuine plan to change their lives and improve things in Belize, which is what they do. You feel like they maybe felt like that at that time because you didn't pop as an artist over there in.
- [52:54]
Host 2
Belize, but you came here, you know.
- [52:57]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
You hanging out with the New Yorkers, and you checked. I think politics. I think politics had a lot to do with it. You know, my father was the prime minister of Belize, but my father and I couldn't be more different. We don't agree on most policies. And he wasn't involved in my life. He had nothing to do with me selling over 40 million records. My mom. And I'm my mother's son, respect to him, you know, him and I, we have a cordial relationship. There's no ill will. But I took a lot of hits and believes because of him. Right. And I never got anything from him. You know, he has another son who has benefited tremendously from, you know, him being prime minister. Yeah, but that wasn't me. Are you close with your brother? No, no, those are his children. I'm my mother's only son, but I'm just saying. So I think a lot of it had to do with him being prime minister for 13 years, benefits that came to his son and other people. And so they took that out on me. And I didn't get nothing. When I say nothing, not 10. Right. Even going to the House of Representatives, he had nothing to do with that. As far as planning that or saying to me, son, I think you should follow in my footsteps. I decided to do that. I decided to return to Belize and offer myself the service. And I put my money into that, opened a resource center. You know, when my friends would come to Belize, if they were professors or entrepreneurs, have them speak to the people in Mesopotamia. But don't get me wrong, I don't want to be ungrateful. There were people, the same people that ended up overthrowing me, that felt a deportee and a criminal should not be involved in politics. Right. So on that end, as the leader of the party, you know, he and others were like, nah, that's crazy. Like, you know, he didn't do anything in Belize that was in America, and we all know that he took the fall, so on. But I think he should have did that for anybody that, you know, was in that situation. We have a person right now that was the former leader of the party that just got arrested, and he's a senator. He Got arrested for assaulting the police. He got arrested for. For assaulting a woman with a. With a hammer. He did all types of things, and everybody was okay with that. So I'm saying that wasn't like a father son thing. I think that was just the right thing to do. But I take a lot of heat for, you know, the prime minister serving 13 years, got no benefits. Not that he should have given me anything. But a lot of people claim he gave his other son everything. But that's okay, right? But were you ever looking for his validation in turn into war politics? I mean, some part of you, you know, as a child, you always wanted your father. Yeah. And then when I became successful, as you know, my first album, million records. So even before I went in, most famous Belizean ever. Most successful commercial Belizean ever, then, you know, yeah, everybody recognized. And even, like I said, I don't want to throw him under the bus. We have policy differences. We agree to disagree. It's an agreeable relationship. But I'm past that, right? I'm at a place where, you know, my daughter is my life. Belize is my life, helping Belizeans. And I have everything at my disposal to be able to do everything that I want to do. So I don't. You know, it's not about Diddy. It's not about pops. It's not about nobody. God has given me all the tools. Great team, you know, people like Stephen, Victor, Stephen, Carlos, Don, Pool, Manny, you know, Smitty.
- [57:01]
Host 2
Redemption look like for Sean after all.
- [57:03]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
This all, I think we. I think we passed redemption right now. It's like, what does. What does? What does, you know, this great future of Belize and, you know, creating more art. It's celebration time. That's why I really said the. The 25th anniversary celebration time, because we got past, like, all the other stuff and now celebrate, like, you know, like, I'm making. Listen, like my brother. You know, the last thing I did was watch the Super bowl with Dr. Dre. Like, quiet, no pitches, no nothing. Do you know what. Do you know what it is to be able to come to LA and be like, yo, I'm in the City of Angels, and pull up, right? And he got some incredible beats. Trust me. The dark aging timelessly. That's a great place to be, like, right? If I go to Miami, I'm gonna go to Miami in a few weeks. I'm gonna go see Khaled, you know, see my guy Russian. I know, you know, we in New York, so all the Caribbean, they know who Russian is. Russian, he Got that thing for my album. C.J. the Chemist. The Caribbean's know who that is. That's. That's.
- [58:26]
Host 2
I'm glad you know that.
- [58:26]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
We don't know. That's Brooklyn. No, no, no. That's. That's Brooklyn. That's Brooklyn. That's my guy. He just. They just grabbed him. Chronic Law and Armani and, you know, the Caribbean's know who that is. But anyway, I'm just. I'm in such a great place that all the people that I love and admire love and admire me. And so I'm making an album from there. Like DJ Tunes and the star boy collective Wizkidd. When I was. When I. When I was, you know, when I was in LA at Lenny S. Respect to my good brother Lenny S. Those the best parties ever. So he had a Grammy after party. I hear DJ Toons is at the party. I go to the turntable. He's like, oh, yo, Shawn, like. And the song he got right now with Marvo and Wizkid, that's my favorite song. And we working right there. He's sending me stuff. That's a great place to be, right? Like, I don't need nobody to do nothing. Cause everybody embraces Shine and loves Shine and they celebrate Shine. And so we celebrating. So thank God, right? So. So we look forward to using this to get more people to come to Belize. Last time I was here, you said you coming. You still ain't reach.
- [59:51]
Host 2
This year I went to Dominica, but we're gonna get out there. Well, I'm gonna bring the family.
- [59:55]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Don't be a politician.
- [59:56]
Host 2
This year with Dominica, I had to go Dominica. That's where my father's from. So I had to go there first. But we gonna make it stop.
- [60:02]
Host 1
Never been to Belize.
- [60:04]
Host 2
I think I might have did something there a long time. Yeah, me too.
- [60:07]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I loved it.
- [60:07]
Host 2
But I gotta get back. I'm gonna bring the.
- [60:09]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
But that's. That's what's on the horizon, man, to be able to put these projects out and, you know, everything I do, I'm gonna always talk about Belize and just celebrating from a great space of positivity.
- [60:19]
Host 1
Yeah, it seems like you're in a good space.
- [60:21]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Yes. Yeah, I'm happy to meet you too. So. May 2.
- [60:24]
Host 2
May 2.
- [60:25]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
King's Theater.
- [60:26]
Host 2
King's Theater in Brooklyn. Sean, we appreciate you for joining us and thank you for answering all the questions.
- [60:30]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
All right.
- [60:35]
Host 2
What's the website?
- [60:36]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
It's on the. It's on the.
- [60:38]
Host 2
Just go to kingtheater.com. i'm sure they got a place to get the tickets. And Sean is like, look, I'm tired of ask. Don't ask me no more about Diddy, all right, Lauren, if you're going to DM me, talk about my concert, damn it. Talk about my album, damn it.
- [60:49]
Host 1
We're here talking about.
- [60:50]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Listen, not that you going back on tour for the money, right?
- [60:56]
Host 1
Cause I didn't even groove you.
- [60:57]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I don't know. See, I had the best questions.
- [61:01]
Host 2
Didn't ask, because these are the things people think.
- [61:03]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
So, you know, why would somebody think that? It's not like I'm out here stunting. No, I'm like, I take. No. But listen, I take the trade. Like, I'm a regular guy. Like, it's not like I'm.
- [61:13]
Host 1
I think it's been long.
- [61:14]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
It's not like I'm fronting. Like, I'm out here fronting. Like, I got 100 million and you heard something.
- [61:19]
Host 2
The first thing that people say is, well, why did they come back? You know, especially.
- [61:22]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
But I never got a chance.
- [61:23]
Host 2
But last time you said you was like, I don't want to because I.
- [61:26]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Was in the legislator. I was in the legislator. No, no, no, no. But I'm still Obama. Hold on, hold on.
- [61:33]
Host 2
I got.
- [61:33]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I got the. I got the polo crest on, but I still got. You know what I mean? Obama on the train.
- [61:41]
Host 2
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hold up. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.
- [61:47]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
You all finished or y' all done?
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Host 2
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
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Host 1
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Host 2
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
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Host 2
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Host 1
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Host 2
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Host 1
Your exposure ends here.
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Host 2
That's right. It's DJ Envy. It's your girl, Jess.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Hilarious.
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Host 2
And I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God. And we are the world's most dangerous morning show.
- [62:50]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
At Breakfast Club, you just finished listening.
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Host 2
To you know, our first podcast for today. That's right.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
And we want you to go watch the visuals on Netflix.
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Host 2
You know, we.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
We're still on YouTube, but it's the clips on YouTube. But if you want to watch the Breakfast Club in full, if you want.
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Host 2
To see what you just listened to, go to Netflix. That's right.
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Host 1
Find us on Netflix.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Sure.
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Host 2
This is Ryder Strong, and I have.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
A new podcast called the red weather. In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
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Host 2
So now I am not your guru.
- [63:22]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Back then, I lied to everybody.
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Host 1
They have had this case for 30 years.
- [63:27]
Sean (The Honorable Shine)
I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.
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Host 2
Listen to the Red Weather on the.
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Sean (The Honorable Shine)
Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Host 1
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