INTERVIEW: Swayvo Twain On Losing His Parents; Angie Stone & D'Angelo, Music & Artistry, Questlove +More

Summary

The Breakfast Club: Swayvo Twain on Loss, Legacy, and Finding His Voice

Date: December 10, 2025
Podcast: The Breakfast Club (iHeartPodcasts)
Episode: INTERVIEW: Swayvo Twain On Losing His Parents; Angie Stone & D'Angelo, Music & Artistry, Questlove +More
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Lauren Laros

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Episode Overview

In this poignant and heartfelt interview, Swayvo Twain—son of soul legends Angie Stone and D’Angelo—joins The Breakfast Club for an in-depth discussion in the wake of losing both his parents within the same year. The conversation explores the emotional toll of grief, lessons learned from musical giants, navigating legacy while forging his own identity, and the healing and impactful role of music in his journey. Interspersed are reflections on artistry, family, faith, and Swayvo’s aspirations beyond entertainment.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

1. Coping with Loss and Grief

• Opening with Empathy:
  The hosts offer condolences on the passing of both his parents (03:08).

  • Charlamagne: "So first we just say, you know, sending all condolences and well wishes and everything. How you doing, though? How you feeling, man?"

• Swayvo’s Approach:
  Swayvo remains lighthearted, reflecting on his personality and his mother’s sense of humor (06:42–07:30):

  • Swayvo Twain: “I'm not a complainer... I'm always trying to bring the vibes... even at funerals, the funeral be for the Living it don't be for the dead... Let's laugh and talk about the good times.”

• Faith and Perspective:
  Swayvo expresses his faith and understanding that his parents are in a better place (07:41):

  • “No, this. Man, When they leave here... I think I'm really seeing how much they was actually shouldering on the day to day.”

• Cherishing the Final Moments:
  He details spending his father’s last week together with family, focusing on music and presence (13:33):

  • “Me and him spent the last down there, like, last week together... just talking and laughing and listening to music.”

2. Childhood, Family, and Growing Up with Legends

• School and Identity:
  Swayvo describes realizing his upbringing was not “normal” in kindergarten when classmates recognized his famous parents (03:48):

  • “I was always the type. I ain’t never really tell people in school... if I get in trouble and my mama had to come up to the school, the teacher... in front of the whole class, be like, is such and such your mama?... That's when I realized that.”

• Life between Columbia and Atlanta:
  Early years spent with his grandmother in Columbia, SC before moving to Atlanta as a teenager—a “super culture shock” (04:30).

3. Lessons from Angie Stone and D’Angelo

• Artistry and Discipline (05:24):

  • Father:
    “He really put me on mindset. Things like, this is how you need to be with your business... your team... when you get overwhelmed.”
  • Mother:
    “She’ll be in the hospital and get out... that night and go do the show and nobody know... She was a real soldier, gangster.”

• Best Advice:
  On pacing himself and prioritizing peace amid pressure (24:49):

  • “Son, you gotta choose your peace over everything... I really started implementing that and it helped me a lot.”

4. Music as Therapy and Identity

• Following the Calling:
  Swayvo started making music in his Atlanta basement as a teen (08:40):

  • “I started going down there, recording myself, figuring it out, and before you know, I done did about 50, 60 songs... So she just put the battery in my back.”

• Parental Influence and Collaboration:

  • Mother: Recorded together for her last album.
  • Father: Never collaborated; regrets not doing so (10:53).

• Finding His Lane:
  He clarifies his desire to honor, not compete with, his parents (10:20):

  • “I can’t do nothing but be me... I’m on my own journey, you know, Sway World time.”

5. Navigating the Music Industry and Estate

• Signing/Independence:
  Swayvo remains unsigned but open to opportunities (“if it’s the right situation”) (20:59, 21:18).

• Learning from Parents’ Challenges:
  Hesitant but prepared to manage the business side with awareness of past industry pitfalls (21:37).

• Handling the Estate:
  As executor for Angie Stone’s estate, he addresses record clearances and management (22:00):

  • “...Me and the team, we handling everything. Gotcha.”

• D’Angelo’s Unreleased Music:
  Questlove hinted at a new album; Swayvo confirms unreleased material exists and hopes to be involved (22:22–22:51).

6. Processing Grief through Creative Work

• Writing “Dove Soar”:
  Song began as a dedication to his mother but was completed following his father’s death (19:58):
  • “When I was originally making the song, it wasn’t even about my dad... but after we did the funeral... I finally broke the writer’s block and was able to finish the song.”

7. Living Beyond the Legacy

• Purpose:
  Swayvo sees his music and presence as a means to uplift and serve others (28:55):

  • “I'm here to help people, man. I'm here to be a vessel... I want to use the music as a vehicle to definitely, like, go back and help people for sure.”

• Ten-Year Aspiration:
  He hopes people will remember him as genuine, and for impacting others (29:29):

  • “If you can look at me and think you can get through because I’m getting through, then you know what I'm saying, that’s fine.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On keeping spirits high at funerals (06:42):

  “I just always try to keep it light, man... Even at funerals, life... the funeral be for the Living it don't be for the dead. They going already. So, you know, let's laugh and talk about the good times. It's not, you know, as much as we can.”
  — Swayvo Twain

• Reflections on faith and loss (07:41):

  “When they leave here... I think I'm really seeing how much they was actually shouldering on the day to day. Like, you know, especially me in the music business. My mom been in the business since forever ago...”
  — Swayvo Twain

• On building his own identity (10:20):

  “I can't do nothing but be me... I ain't trying to battle them or trying to live up to what they did. They already did it. ...I'm on my own journey, you know, Sway World time.”
  — Swayvo Twain

• Hardest conversations with his parents (24:49):

  “My dad... said... ‘Son, you gotta choose your peace over everything.’ ...I really started implementing that and it helped me a lot.”
  — Swayvo Twain

• On helping others through hardship (29:29):

  “I just want people to say that I was a genuine guy or I helped them some type of way... if you can look at me and think you can get through because I'm getting through... that's fine.”
  — Swayvo Twain

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Key Timestamps

• 03:08 – Discussion of Swayvo's parents and condolences
• 04:30 – Describing normalcy vs. fame in childhood/Atlanta move
• 05:24 – Parental lessons on artistry and discipline
• 06:42 – Maintaining positivity amidst loss/funerals
• 08:40 – Start of music journey, home studio
• 10:20 – Swayvo on his musical identity
• 10:53 – Collaborations with his parents—regret on missing the chance with his dad
• 13:33 – Spending final days with his father
• 19:58 – Writing and finishing "Dove Soar"
• 21:18 – Openness to record deals, importance of right partnerships
• 22:00 – Handling estates and music clearances
• 22:22 – Questlove’s comments on D’Angelo's unreleased music
• 24:49 – Personal life lessons about peace and sacrifice
• 28:55 – Articulating purpose: “be a vessel” and give back
• 29:29 – Legacy beyond his parents; being a source of hope

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Tone and Atmosphere

The episode balances deep personal vulnerability with humor and wisdom, matching Swayvo Twain’s own personality: reflective, candid, and uplifting, all while honoring the complex and iconic legacy he inherits.

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Transcript

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[Swervo Twain]

Hold up. Every day I wake up, wake your ass up.

[DJ Envy]

The breakfast Club, y' all finished or y' all done?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren laros is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, we have Swavo Twain. Welcome, brother.

[Swervo Twain]

What's. Big brother.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How you feeling?

[Swervo Twain]

I'm feeling blessed, man. I'm feeling blessed, man. Thank y' all for having me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Now, for people that don't know, you are the son of Angie Stone and d'. Angelo.

[Swervo Twain]

Yes, sir.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So first we just say, you know, sending all condolences and well wishes and everything. How you doing, though? How you feeling, man?

[Swervo Twain]

Thank you for the condolences. But, man, they. They. They in a better place than me, man. They ain't paying no bills no more. They good. They tur. But I'm good, man. Just taking the moment by moment, for real.

[DJ Envy]

I know every day is a different day, different emotion, I'm sure.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, it'd be. It'd be Sunday is better than others, for sure. But we still pushing, man. We still pushing.

[DJ Envy]

When I think about you, man, I think about you. You know, you had. You had two, you know, legends. Parents, right?

[Swervo Twain]

Yes, sir.

[DJ Envy]

When did you first realize that that wasn't normal in school?

[Swervo Twain]

Like, kindergarten, for real. Like, I was always the type. I ain't never really tell people in school. Like, I just go to school and just be Mike. But if I get in trouble or anything, and my mama had to come up to the school, like, the teacher be done, See my parents, so she know who she is. But she gonna wait till in front of the whole class, be like, is such and such your mama? And I might say yes, I might say no. And then, like, the whole class will know, and they gonna ask they mama and it just be a whole little thing. So that's when I realized that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How was growing up? Did you grow up? I don't wanna say normal because you had two iconic stars. Were you always on the road? How was growing up?

[Swervo Twain]

Nah, it was. It was normal at times. So, like, my earlier years, I went with my mama. Like I was, you know, with grandma. So I'm saying Columbia, South Carolina, 803, the Met, for sure, 100%. And, you know, my mama came and got me from Columbia when I was about 12 or 13, moved me to Atlanta. So when I first moved to Atlanta, that was like a super culture shock. I'm like, man, everybody out here got money. Like, we stayed right, like, two doors down for Pac Man Jones, and he was turned like, so it was normal. But I tried to be as normal as I could, but then when people started figuring it out, it was just doing extra stuff, you know.

[DJ Envy]

You, you went back to Columbia. Did you go to usc? Am I tripping?

[Swervo Twain]

No.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Swervo Twain]

I go back to Columbia just to visit. I probably got like a three day limit in Columbia.

[DJ Envy]

What's one lesson your father taught you about like, artistry and then one lesson your mother taught you about discipline?

[Swervo Twain]

My, my daddy, like, we didn't ever really. We. Sometimes we would discuss like music notes and music theory, but we didn't really discuss stuff like that. He really put me on mindset. Things like, this is how you need to be with your business. This is how you need to be with your team. This is how you need to be with your mentor when you get overwhelmed, things like that. And my mama, she ain't have to show me nothing. I seen it. My mama.

She'Ll be in the hospital and get out of the hospital that night and go do the show and nobody know. Wow. You know what I'm saying? She was a real soldier, gangster. So she had to say nothing. I was watching, I was living it.

[Podcast Host]

With her, you know, And I saw your video that you posted on your Instagram and you just. Well, first of all, I just want to say watching you speak at their funerals, it. You just. There's still like such a joy there or something that I didn't understand. I've never been through what you've been through, but I don't know if you can kind of like talk us through when we're seeing you and you're like making everybody laugh and you're with your family and it's the push ups and y' all just having a good time. I'm like, how is he able to, you know, do that for everybody in the situation he's in?

[Swervo Twain]

I mean, that's my personality. Like.

I'm not a complainer, you know what I'm saying? I'm not like a woe is me guy. And I'm always trying to bring the vibes, you know what I'm saying? So in a moment like this, when everything be morbid and dark.

I'm going to make everybody laugh, right? You know what I'm saying? Because that's how my mama was like. She was so funny. Like, she, she the funny person, you know, but she ain't telling no jokes. So I just, I just always try to keep it light, man. And, you know, even at funerals, life, you know, not for nothing, the funeral be for the Living it don't be for the dead. They going already. So, you know, let's laugh and talk about the good times. It's not, you know, as much as we can.

[DJ Envy]

You know, it's interesting, man, I could tell how much faith you have in God, because, you know, when you first started the conversation, you said, I mean, they in a better place. Like, if you a true believer, that's really. That really should be the mindset, right?

[Swervo Twain]

100. Yeah. Yeah. No, this.

Man, When. When they. When they. When they leave here, you. You. You really like, as they son, I think I'm really seeing how much they was actually shouldering on the day to day. Like, you know, especially me in the music business. My mom been in the business since forever ago, and my dad is the same thing. So, you know, shifting from label to label, by the time you get to 20, 25, the business be all messed up, you know what I'm saying? You know, you try to fix it and work on it, but they just unfortunately ran out of time. So now, you know, I'm fighting that fight for them. So I think I'm like, damn, y' all were doing this shit every day. Like this what y' all was battling with and still going to work and still dealing with my shit on I can't, cuz. But yeah, man, they. They were. They were some soldiers, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What gave you the music? I don't want to say what gave you the music, but when did you say, I want to start singing? When did you know you had that in you that you could sing?

[Swervo Twain]

When I. When I. When I moved to Atlanta and seeing the rich kids was turned. They. They was a little bit older than me, and they had the hottest. The hottest thing in Atlanta. I'm like, oh, this was going on, man. You know, I started. I. I still was really running from it, but maybe like 15, 16. My mama bought this whole studio set up for her in the house, and I ain't never used it. So I started going down there, recording myself, figuring it out, and before, you know, I done did about 50, 60 songs. I. I don't want to play or something. She actually really loved it, you know what I'm saying? So she. When she did that, she just put the battery in my back. I was just going hard from there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And what did your dad say about your music? Because they said he's a. He was a hard critique when it came to music.

[Swervo Twain]

Nah, for sure. Like, I'm not gonna lie, dude. Just be real with you. My. My daddy didn't really Embrace it and say, go ahead and go crazy, son. He didn't do that to. After my mama passed. Really? Yeah. Like, he ain't. He never really wanted me doing music because everything he went through with the business, you know what I'm saying? He's like, son, I don't want you in this. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, man.

I'm gonna work in the warehouse. Like, I don't. I'm tired of the. Well, tired of the call center. Like, I'm cold. You know what I'm saying? But after my mom passed, he really tapped in. He was, like, very impressed, like, you know, and that. And that's all I ever really wanted anyway. Just. Just him to hear and get that approval. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

How do you call about your own identity while still acknowledging the legacy you come from?

[Swervo Twain]

That's. That's been my battle all my life. But I can't do nothing but be me. Like, when you. When you hear my music, it's like you can hear them in it, but it's still me. I'm doing a whole different thing. And I ain't trying to battle them or trying to live up to what they did. They already did it. They don't. Went to the. Went to the mountain. I'm on my own journey, you know, Sway World time. And I can't. I can't run from who I am. And I ain't trying to, but I'm not trying to. I can't compete with that, and I don't want to.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Did you do records with them with your parents?

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, I'm on my mama last album. Me and her. Me and her got a song together. Me, my mama, and my sister diamond, we have a song together that I'm. Release. Me and my pops never got to work together, though. I think that's. I like number one regret. We ain't never get to do that. Yeah. Me, my mom, for sure.

[Podcast Host]

I saw you also talk about the. You know, the time that you spent with your dad. It was like a week or a couple weeks that you guys got to. And just after your mom passed away, the time that you guys were spending together, and you said you finally saw your parents as just like people, because there was a lot of things that I guess you had in one way in your mind.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And then when you and your dad spent that time after your mom passed away, you. You saw him so differently.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, man. You know, my dad, he moved in a certain way. You know, it like. And I used to always think he was just being extra. But when we did my mother's funeral, we had the repass, and my. My dad was in the city the whole day. So he hit me like, son, I'm pull up. I'm gonna pull up. I'm pull up. But he. He didn't. He didn't show up the whole funeral. And then the whole repass happened. He ain't show up either. So I'm like, man, this nigga late again. You know what I'm saying? But he pulled up, like, at the last possible second at the repass, and he came straight to me. And instead of my family in South Carolina treating him like a regular person here for the funeral, they all went mobbed him like he was Justin Bieber or something.

[DJ Envy]

Phone was out.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah. And I'm like, there's a lot of my family that did that. I don't fault them to this day. You know what I'm saying? Cause it's like, man, we just put my mom in the ground.

So when I seen that, I said, oh, wow, now you understood. This is why he. This is why he be moving in this type of manner. Because it's like he ain't want to even make it about him. He just wanted to be there for me, you know what I'm saying?

[Podcast Host]

How did.

[DJ Envy]

Did you talk to any of your family about that? Or you just was like, you know what? Action speak.

[Swervo Twain]

I don't want to talk. Yeah, I don't want to talk. They, they, they, they, they. They showed their ass with that one.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And he was dealing with cancer at.

[Swervo Twain]

That time, so I went in. I ain't looking back at the pictures. It's like, yeah, he probably was, but I ain't even know. Like, I had no idea. Like, I. I ain't never seen my daddy with an ailment or nothing. So when it came to that situation, it was. It shocked everybody. It definitely shocked me. I. I ain't. I ain't never seen my daddy sick or nothing.

[DJ Envy]

So you found out, like, the rest.

[Swervo Twain]

Of the world.

Damn near, like, down there. Like, I knew. I knew he was battling with it, but I didn't know how bad it was.

[DJ Envy]

Did you get a chance to, like.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Say your goodbyes and everything?

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah. Me and him spent the last down there, like, last week together. You know, I was up there with him, and we was just. Just talking and laughing and listening to music and, you know, I ain't. I ain't really wanted one. See. See me sad or nothing like that. So I was just like, we. You know, we gonna vibe out, me and my little brother, my little sister, we always there, you know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

You don't gotta answer this if you don't want to, but what was your perspective like knowing that you had just lost your mom earlier this year and now you spending your last moments with your pops? Did you even look at it at last moments?

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah. Yeah, I knew why I was there, you know, But.

I don't know, man, I think that was just in my mind. I'm like, man, this is what's going on in my life right now. Like, like this was going on. I definitely can't question God, you know, But I'm gonna just take this. I'm gonna really take this time and cherish it. You know what I'm saying? And you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna wipe my face up when I start crying. Cause I don't want him to start crying. And, you know, me and him, we in there, we listening to his music. We listening to Earth, Wind and Fire.

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[Swervo Twain]

He looked at me, and he. Like, he looking at me like, damn, son, I see where you at in life. Like, you. I remember when I was your age, I was. I was just getting ready to drop my second album, and I just seen all the pressure that was on me. I was like, I'm looking at you, and like, I see. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. It was. I was just being there, being in that moment.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Did you ever question Faith at that at all?

[Swervo Twain]

Question Faith? No, I can't do that. I can't do that. I mean.

I don't know. I. You know, age old saying, no, stuff don't happen to you, happen for you. You know what I'm saying? So I just be going with the punches, man. You know, it is what it is.

[Podcast Host]

And you have your song Dove Soar, that is a dedication to your mom and your dad. At what point did you start writing that song? Like, after your mom passed away? Like, when were you okay enough to try and put things in music and further with your.

[Swervo Twain]

So it's crazy. I was in the studio making that song probably about two days before I got the call about my daddy. So when I was originally making the song, it wasn't even about. It wasn't even about my. My dad is really about my mama, the first part. But I was getting writer's block on it, so I did that. Probably two days later, I got the call. Like, you need to clean. Like, docs. Like, you need to get your ass up here. So I went up to New York.

Did that, and then came back to Atlanta. I was working on it, but I couldn't. I couldn't really come up with the words. So after we did the funeral, and I can't. I came back, like, probably the night before. I flew out to come back home after the funeral. I finally, like, broke the writer's blocking, was able to finish the song. So, you know. Yeah, man. I don't really work on that song for the last month. For real.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Are you signed?

[Swervo Twain]

No, sir.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do you want to be signed or you want to stay independent? Got a lot of family members that.

[Swervo Twain]

Are in the music business, you know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I mean, so I'm just glad you.

[DJ Envy]

Called him sir, too, man. He be forgetting he old. So thank you for the reminder. I'm glad you did this.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, he snuck that in.

But no, I'm not saying. I'm not saying nobody.

I definitely. I definitely would like to do something, though, if it's if it's the right situation, I just want to be with the right people, you know, whatever that looks like.

[Podcast Host]

I was gonna say, after everything your parents went through with, like, the business side of it, you probably have a little hesitation about, you know, when deals is coming your way and.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, I ain't stupid, though.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Oh, of course not.

[Swervo Twain]

You know, I'm. I. I've been watching and learning and being a student, so, you know, I definitely want to do things the right way for sure. But, yeah, man, when that time comes, you know, I. I believe I'm. I'm ready for that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do you have to? As far as the state is concerned, do you handle the estate? Making sure? Because I'm sure people are trying to clear records.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, so. So on my father's side, I'm, you know, it's very fresh, so I'm not really sure, but as far as my mother, I'm the executive, so, you know, you know, me and the team, we handling everything. Gotcha.

[DJ Envy]

Is it true that I saw Questlove say that a d' Angelo album is coming?

[Swervo Twain]

That what he said? Yeah. You know, me and Quest Love, we ain't really. We ain't really talked about no music. Like, Big bro was hitting me on some man type of time and, like, just good checking on me, like, man, he. And he was telling me how he was feeling, so, you know, I appreciate him reaching out like that.

Man. I heard some of this. My. Me and my dad, we. At the end, we started trading music. So I heard some of the stuff he. He got. It's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

So it's new stuff. It ain't.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, like, the thing that Quest Love said, like, it's for the past, but for the future, like, I. I probably couldn't describe it. No, it's hard. And, you know, I would definitely love to be a part of it. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And you said on your song you say. I know. God had a chuckle when I told him my plans.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, man, that's it, man.

[Podcast Host]

What were your original plans?

[Swervo Twain]

Definitely, definitely wasn't going to two funerals this year.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Right?

[Swervo Twain]

But, nah.

I was getting. So my mama passed the morning after my birthday, February 28th. You know, she had a show on my birthday, and, you know, for the last year or two, I've been opening up for my mom on the show, so I usually go with her just to make sure she good, first of all, you know, but.

For some reason, she just didn't want me to come to this one, you know.

[DJ Envy]

She told you that?

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, no, like, right before she Left. She like, son, you got your own career. You getting ready to do your rollout. You don't need to come to this, you know, just stay home. And I'm like, mom, you sure? And she like, no, I'm positive. But she made me come to all the rehearsals for the show. But the day before, she like, no, I want you to come. And, you know, at the time in March, see my PR right here tell you, like, I had a whole album done roll out, you know, I, you know, got my little budget together and I was getting ready to do that. And then the morning after, everything changed. So that's where that lyric come from. Like, I had a plan, but God had something different. Like, nah, they ain't what you thinking. It ain't about to be that, brother.

[DJ Envy]

Cause you'd have been on. You'd have been on the bus with her. Yeah, man.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[DJ Envy]

What's one conversation with your. With your dad and mom that changed your direction in life? Not even just musically, just as a man.

[Swervo Twain]

My dad. My dad has said me one day, he's like, son, you gotta choose your piece over everything. You know, I think it was a point in my life where I was just being pulled in so many different ways, and, you know, it was draining me. Like, you know, my mama been dealing with, you know, her health, and I've been essentially like a caretaker for her for the last four, five years. You know, people didn't know that. And, you know, she did a good job of hiding it, but, you know, there's a lot of serious situations, and, you know, I had to, you know, sacrifice a lot, you know, and I'll do it again, you know, because that's my mama. I know she'll do it for me. Right. But, you know.

Yeah, I was just talking to my dad, and he was like, man, you know, you. You do what you do for your mom, but all the rest of that, man, you gotta choose your piece over everything. And I really started implementing that and it helped me a lot.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You did a couple of your dad's songs over?

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That has to be nerve wracking, like, because, you know, people gonna compare.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So do you plan to do some. Some more on your new music? Is there something that you've been eyeing?

[Swervo Twain]

Man, I ain't never really want to do it in the first place, man. My mama made me do that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

She made you do the song?

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, she made me do it. Like, she been saying I had to do it for years. So when I redid sdm, she was in the studio with me. Like, right after I finished record, she started crying. Wow. She like, wow, you finally did it. Like, so will I do it again? I don't know. Maybe.

[Podcast Host]

What you think?

[DJ Envy]

Will you do the how does it feel video over, though?

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, for sure. 100%.

Man. Yeah, man.

[Podcast Host]

I was gonna ask, what do you think your mom's lesson for you in that was? Like, what was she trying to teach you by making it?

[Swervo Twain]

Man, my mama is encyclopedia when it comes to samples. Like, if you. The longer you talk to her, it's likely she gonna tell you something to sample. And, you know, it was a lesson in it. Cause if it worked before, it'll work again, you know, and she implemented that in her career, so she was like, son, it's gonna work. You ain't got no choice but to work. You know what I mean? So, you know, independent grind, man. You gotta front your own money, man. So I ain't had a gas to really make it go chart, but, you know, my little independent budget, man, you know, I definitely made some noise with it, so I was proud of that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I just figured out where I seen you before, man. You had dreads before for sure as an artist.

[Swervo Twain]

Now I remember. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Why you cut your dreads? Just different style just changed, man.

[Swervo Twain]

Yeah, after that, after Mars Pad, I cut him, but I got tired of. They were getting too heavy. You know, you being. You be in the bed, you think something crawling on you. You're like, man, my hair, like, man, yeah, no. Damn. In the pool doing all this. I'm like, nah, man, I gotta cut it off.

[DJ Envy]

Do you really, really, really love music, man?

[Swervo Twain]

For sure.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, okay, That's.

[Swervo Twain]

That. That's what. That's what's getting me through right now. Like, if I ain't. If I ain't creating, man, I'm. I'm losing. That's how I feel. You know what I'm saying? So the music definitely therapy for me right now. And it's like, that was a point of connection for my mom and my partner. Just to be real, like, you know, we connected through the music, man. You know, even, you know. You know, my daddy, man, he really was tapped in to a lot of. A lot of the new artists, like, you know what I'm saying? He loved Amigos. He, you know, they were like, we heard a new ice spice, like, just people since you wouldn't even know that he be tapped into it. And my mama, she, like, before she passed, man, she was. She wake me up three in the morning, she in the room writing A new writing, a new rap to Ghostface Killer, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, she was, she still had that fire to the end, you know, So. I love this shit.

[DJ Envy]

What do you think your purpose is as an artist beyond entertainment?

[Swervo Twain]

That's a good question.

I'm here to help people, man. I'm here to be a vessel, man. You know, like, and, you know, you know, we, we from Colombia, man. People don't make it where we come from. And it's like, it's a mindset of you're not gonna make it. Like something gonna happen before you get to where you supposed to get to, man. So I, I, I wanna, I wanna use the music as a vehicle to definitely, like, go back and help people for sure.

[DJ Envy]

Ten years from now. What do you want people to say about you that has nothing to do with your parents?

[Swervo Twain]

I just want people to say that I was a genuine guy or I helped them some type of way or, you know, a lot of people been hitting me, like, throughout this process, like, man, I don't know how you doing it? And I'm like, man, I ain't doing nothing but a whole lot of crying and praying. Like, if I, if, you know, if I could be a. If you can look at me and, and think you can get through because I'm getting through, then you know what I'm saying, That's fine.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's get on your record, man. Introduce the record to the world.

[Swervo Twain]

Wow. This is Sway. World train, man. When Dub saw, you know, exclusive right here at the Breakfast Club, man. Dedicated to my mother and father, man. Y' all check it out.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All right, there you have it. It's Swervo.

[Podcast Host]

Twain.

[Swervo Twain]

Sway with Twain.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Swervo Twain]

Hold up. Every day I wake up.

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