INTERVIEW: Ty Dolla $ign Talks New Album 'TYCOON', Signing Leon Thomas, Fatherhood, Kanye, EZMNY Records + More

Summary

The Breakfast Club – Ty Dolla $ign Interview: New Album 'TYCOON', Signing Leon Thomas, Fatherhood, Kanye, EZMNY Records & More

Original Air Date: October 17, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Angela Yee, Lauren LaRosa

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Episode Overview

This engaging episode of The Breakfast Club features Ty Dolla $ign as he discusses his highly anticipated album "Tycoon," the journey of launching his label EZMNY Records (Easy Money), artist development, fatherhood, working with Kanye, handling grief, technology in music, and personal growth. The hosts dive deep beyond music to explore Ty’s business moves, inspirations, life challenges, and evolving mindset.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Defining the Ty Dolla $ign Sound & Personal Growth

• Sound & Style: Ty attributes his sound to intentional greatness and authenticity rather than trends.

  • “What defines the Ty Dolla $ign sound? Just taking your time and finding the right... The shit is greatness. There we go.” — Ty Dolla $ign (03:25)

• Growth: Ty reflects on realizing early on that music was his path. He shares a humorous Subway job story:

  • “My first job was at Subway. I didn’t come back. I went one day and that was it... I’m about to go make music and figure it out.” — Ty Dolla $ign (04:00)

2. Stepping into “Tycoon” and Business Ownership

• Why “Tycoon”? The title represents stepping into greatness—drawing from "great lord" in Japanese, and "top of your game" in English.

  • “I did the artist thing. I started the record label, Easy Money. We signed our first artist, Leon Thomas... I’m a champagne owner now... documentary on the way...” — Ty Dolla $ign (04:43–05:34)

• Entrepreneurship: Ty emphasizes assembling the right team while growing his businesses.

  • “It’s all about getting the right team... I couldn’t do it all alone, for sure.” — Ty Dolla $ign (07:00)

3. Signing Leon Thomas & Vision for His Label

• Scouting Talent: Ty describes discovering Leon Thomas and creating a supportive label environment.

  • “Leon reminded me of myself... We got the label. Would you be down? He’s like, what? Let’s go. And we figured it out.” — Ty Dolla $ign (06:36)

• Standards for Artists: He values "easy lifters"—artists with vision and work ethic.

  • “Leon has been the easiest person to work with. So now that’s my blueprint. If you ain’t got it like that, I don’t want to waste my time.” — Ty Dolla $ign (36:49)

• Artist Development: Ty’s label prefers to partner with self-motivated talents but would invest more if the passion is real.

4. Views on R&B, Creativity, and Inspiration

• R&B Evolution: Ty feels R&B is lacking lyrical variety—calls for more everyday experiences in music.

  • “What’s missing... is other subjects... It’s the same subjects... We should start just talking about other things. Like regular life. Going to do laundry.” — Ty Dolla $ign (11:04)

• Creative Drive:

  • “I push myself the hardest... I get bored with music... What can we do to make it interesting?” — Ty Dolla $ign (08:33)

• Musical Influences: Mentions Prince, D’Angelo, Jodeci, Kim Burrell, and Stevie Wonder, among others.

  • “Stevie Wonder’s my favorite male singer ever.” — Ty Dolla $ign (09:15)

5. Fatherhood & Personal Life

• Father-Daughter Relationship: Ty shares pride in his 20-year-old daughter, a Pepperdine grad student.

  • “My daughter’s 20 years old now. She’s at Pepperdine getting her masters.” — Ty Dolla $ign (05:34)

• Reflections on Time:

  • “She was nine and now she’s 20. That should be quick though... You don’t realize how fast life goes.” — Ty Dolla $ign (17:05)

6. Mental Health, Grief & Motivation

• Handling Grief: He opens up about loss, staying focused, and mental resilience:

  • “There’s gonna be many hurdles... I got tough skin... In this business, you definitely gotta have tough skin.” — Ty Dolla $ign (34:01)

• Workout Epiphany: Describes losing focus during the pandemic, then recommitting after a health scare on stage.

  • “By the second song, my back went out... That’s when I knew, yo, you got to take this serious again. So now I feel like I’m 25 again.” — Ty Dolla $ign (35:34)

7. The Kanye Relationship & “Vultures”

• Current Status: Ty gives cryptic, brief answers about Kanye, suggesting a complex relationship.
• On “Vultures 1”:
  • “I thought that was a great album. Had a lot of fun making it, too.” — Ty Dolla $ign (13:28)

8. Views on Technology, Ownership, and AI

• Music Publishing: Ty sold a portion of his publishing after building his catalog—compares it to flipping a business.

  • “You could sell it straight up or keep it and gain more wealth... like any business... The goal is build all the way up and then sell it.” — Ty Dolla $ign (30:11)

• AI in Music: Cautiously optimistic but warns of “laziness” if misused, while embracing tech that aids production.

  • “It’s gonna make people lazier, but... create new sounds... But I still respect who really know how to do it.” — Ty Dolla $ign (31:18–32:23)

• Sampling Technology: Appreciates AI in tools that make beat crafting/sampling easier.

  • “I like that part of it because I like making beats and creating sounds.” — Ty Dolla $ign (33:16)

9. Transparency, Relationships & Media

• Honesty in Personal Life: Ty values upfront communication, even about uncomfortable topics in relationships.
  • “I like transparency. I like you to know what’s up. I don’t like surprises.” — Ty Dolla $ign (22:38)
• On Interviews: Admits he’s reserved, but accepts interviews are part of the job.
  • “If you thought you was just going to do music, good luck.” — Ty Dolla $ign (15:21)

10. Notable & Lighthearted Moments

• Internet Memes: Jokes about being compared to Jar Jar Binks after a music video look.

  • “Last thing I looked at online about myself and laughed is niggas calling me Jar Jar Binks...” — Ty Dolla $ign (25:22)

• Shrooms Story: Cautions on edibles, recounts taking mushrooms and receiving tragic news mid-high, making him swear off them.

  • “It made me just like never want to fuck with that shit again.” — Ty Dolla $ign (29:02)

• Favorite Collaboration: Picks “Miracle” from Free TC featuring his siblings.

  • “I like those family [collaborations].” — Ty Dolla $ign (27:02)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the Ty Dolla $ign Sound:
  “What is the sound? Shit. The. The shit—fucking greatness. There we go.” — Ty Dolla $ign (03:36)

• On Industry Entrepreneurship:
  “You become a true legend when your tree bears fruit.” — Charlamagne tha God (05:05)

• On Staying Motivated Creatively:
  “What can we do to make it interesting? What’s the wow factor?” — Ty Dolla $ign (08:33)

• On R&B Lyrical Diversity:
  “We should start just talking about other things. Like regular life. Going to do laundry...” — Ty Dolla $ign (11:04)

• On Transparency:
  “I like you to know what’s up. I don’t like surprises and I don’t like playing with people.” — Ty Dolla $ign (22:38)

• On Grieving While High:
  “And it made me just like never want to fuck with that shit ever again.” — Ty Dolla $ign on mushrooms and grief (29:02)

• On Tech/Laziness:
  “What worries me is the laziness of people, right? ... It’s gonna make people lazier... but create new sounds.” — Ty Dolla $ign (31:18)

• Room Laughter:
  “Last thing I looked at online about myself and laughed is niggas calling me Jar Jar Binks.” — Ty Dolla $ign (25:22)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

| Topic | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|:--------------:| | Ty Dolla $ign on his sound | 03:25–03:46 | | “Tycoon” as album name, entrepreneurship | 04:43–05:34 | | Leon Thomas signing and label philosophy | 05:47–07:16 | | R&B’s missing diversity | 11:04–11:39 | | Relationship with Kanye and “Vultures” | 12:43–13:32 | | On grief, mushrooms story | 29:01–29:38 | | Music publishing and business advice | 30:02–30:46 | | Thoughts on AI in music | 31:10–33:48 | | On fatherhood and daughter in grad school | 05:34, 16:45 | | Fitness/motivation and scare on stage | 35:34–35:47 | | Favorite collab: “Miracle” with his siblings| 27:02 | | Internet memes: “Jar Jar Binks” | 25:22–25:43 |

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Conclusion

Ty Dolla $ign’s candid conversation with The Breakfast Club peels back the layers of superstardom to expose a thoughtful creator, pragmatic businessman, vulnerable father, and industry vet with sharp instincts. From his role as a culture-shaper in modern R&B and his championing of artist development, to wisdom on resilience, ownership, and creative integrity, Ty offers inspiration for listeners on both sides of the mic. “Tycoon” embodies his philosophy: leveling up, innovating, and bringing others along for the ride.

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Transcript

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[Johnny Knoxville]

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[Ty Dolla $ign]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Ty Dolla $ign]

What do we do?

[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Ty Dolla $ign]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.

[Angela Yee]

Morning everybody.

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ Envy Jess.

[Angela Yee]

Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. We Got a special guest in the building. TY$sign.

[DJ Envy]

What's up?

[Angela Yee]

What's going on?

[Charlamagne tha God]

How you feeling, brother?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Telling how y' all been?

[DJ Envy]

Good.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Less black and highly favored new album tycoon coming. That's how you feeling?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yes, sir. Tycoon on the way. 1017.

[DJ Envy]

That's what's up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What do you think defines the tide Dollar sign sound right now? Because a lot of people say you've helped shape, like, the modern R B sound.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

So what. What.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What defines the tie Dollar sign sound right now?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Just taking your time and finding the right. You know what I mean? Like, damn. That's a question right there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what interviews are for, Todd. You get asked questions.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

That's a good question. What is the sound? Shit. The. The shit fucking greatness. There we go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I drop.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

At what point did you realize that you had more to offer the world? I saw something where you talked about, like, you know, this album being for people who, you know, you dream, but, you know, it's more to you. When did you realize that about Ty Dolla Sign?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I realized that, like, early. Early, but especially when I got my first job. My first job was when I was, like, 16, and it was at a Subway Sandwiches, and I was in there going through the. You know when they teach you everything. And I didn't come back. I went one day and that was it.

[DJ Envy]

Kept the orientation. He was like, I'm done.

[Angela Yee]

He's like, I can't do this. It's not for me.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I'm about to go make music and figure it out. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Isn't that where you. Am I getting this right? Is that where you met, like, YG and everybody back then?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

No, no, no, no.

[Angela Yee]

Okay, so you met him in Subway.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

That's what he thought.

[DJ Envy]

Made n a sandwich.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Nah, it was much later, though.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Why tycoon? Why is that the name of the album Tycoon?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Cause that's where I'm stepping into my greatness. It came from a Japanese word, great Lord. And, you know, over here in English, it's like, top of your game, top of your business. I did the artist thing. I started the record label, Easy money. We signed our first artist, Leon Thomas. He's now Leon Thomas.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't think you get enough credit for that. Like, people. Like, people mention it, but it's like, no, that's Ty Dollar Sign artist, which says a lot. Like I always say, you know, you become a true legend when your tree bears fruit.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Exactly. Yeah, man. So shout out to Leon. I'm a champagne owner now. This is the champagne. Le Bon Ajahn. What else we got? I'm about to drop a documentary. My daughter. Let's talk about my daughter. My daughter's 20 years old now. She's at Pepperdine getting her masters.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Wow.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

So shout out to her, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what life is about. That's what I'm talking about.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Listen.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Real fruits when it comes to Leon, right?

[Angela Yee]

Like, well, how did they meet? First of all, how did you sign Leon? Where did y' all meet?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

We met at this studio session, like, during the Pandemic. My homie Ali was like, yo, you gotta check this out. And he played me this song, that California Cation song that we. It's called Love Jones now. But at first it was California Cation, and then it's Love Jones on his first album. And really, I was supposed to put that out, but I didn't put it out. And then he was like, I'm about to use it on my shit. Bam. We end up signing them, me and Sean Baron, because we always talked about making a label together. Sean Barron is the guy who signed me to Atlantic in 2012, and now we got a label together. So it's a blessing, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know, a lot of artists, they'll see another artist with that type of talent, and they'll basically, like, just take the whole aura, take the energy for themselves. What made you say, nah, man, I want you to go fly on your own?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Because it just reminded me of myself, like, at that time, just being great with people not knowing what to do or. You know what I mean? So I'm like, yo, we got the label. Would you be down? He's like, what? Let's go. And we figured it out.

[Podcast Host]

And what instincts do you use in business that you gather from music or vice versa that help you be good at what you do?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

It's a. It's a. It's a totally different thing. But in business, I just. It's all about getting the right team. You know what I'm saying? And I got a great team, so I just want to shout out to them, because I couldn't do it all alone, for sure.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How do you balance being a collaborator behind a sound, but then being an artist in front of it because, you know, you work and produce for people, Everybody, right? So how do you know when to just be a collaborator behind the sound, but then switching now to do the album and being an artist in front of the song?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah, when it comes to music, I just, like, give it what it needs, you know what I Mean, I don't try to overdo it. It's like, if I'm. If I feel like it just needs my feature, cool. If it's my song, it's a whole different thing. And, I mean, it's the intention you.

[DJ Envy]

Talked about that you're also dropping a documentary.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Still Free tc, What is that about? Give us a little bit about. I know you don't want to spoil it.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Still Free TC is basically gonna show you my whole. There's some parts that are not in there, but it's basically my whole thing from a kid all the way up until now. The whole trajectory, like, deeper than any other interview has went or any other way. You guys see me out there for sure. But that's on the way. It's basically done. I scored the whole thing. And shout out to the whole team that put that together as well.

[Angela Yee]

Who pushes you the most as far as creative? Is it your artist? Is it another artist that you're in, whether it's YG or whoever it may be, who pushes you the most to say, now, I could do better than that?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I think I pushed myself the hardest just from just for Karen and wanted to go to the next level and just like, all right, that's cool, but what can we do different? All right, that sounds like, you know, I've heard this before. What can we do, you know what I mean, to take it to the next level? I get real bored with music, you know what I mean? It's like, how many songs come out a day? You know what I'm saying? So it's like, what can we do to make it interesting? You know what? Saying you. I'm. Know what I'm saying? What's the wow factor?

[DJ Envy]

Who is your inspiration? Right? Because your voice is, like, timeless. On anything you. Anything you put your voice on, it makes it a hit. Right? I love your vocals. Love your voice.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Appreciate that.

[DJ Envy]

Who is your inspiration?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Inspiration? Tons. It could be. We could name back in the day artists all the way up until now, but I like Prince, I like d', Angelo. I like Jodeci. I like Kim Burrell. I like all the greatest singers. Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder's my favorite male singer ever. I could just. Then there's rap, then there's, like, house music, then there's rock music, then there's tons of things that could inspire me.

[DJ Envy]

You just love music, period.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You remember the first Stevie Wonder record you ever heard?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

First Stevie Wonder record, maybe. Isn't she lovely? I don't know. I don't know if that's the first.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But that's the one that you felt like you felt.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

That's just what I thought of right now. When you said it, I could hear it.

[DJ Envy]

Did you grow up singing in church?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I didn't. I didn't. I didn't really want people to know I could sing back then. I didn't really, like, all the way know how to sing back then, but it was in me. But I was playing bass in church, though.

[Charlamagne tha God]

For sure.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

When did you first start singing?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I first started singing when I was a kid. But, like, publicly you said what was her name? Yeah, what was her name? That's crazy. That was really my pops that got me into singing. Cause y' all know my pops, he did music as well. He still does music to this day. He just sent me this video of him playing somewhere, playing trumpet. But yeah, man, it's just something that I've always loved and I get to make money off of it. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Why didn't you want people to know you could sing? What was that about?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I don't know. I just didn't feel comfortable, I guess. It was some shy shit. I don't know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You were shy.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I was easier. It was easier to just play an instrument or.

[Charlamagne tha God]

When you look at how R and B has evolved, what you think is missing from the genre right now?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

What's missing from the genre right now in R and B is other subjects. It's like everybody just in black music, period. It's like the same subjects. You know what I'm saying? I think we. We should start just talking about other things. Like regular life. Going to do laundry.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

You know what I'm saying? Going to the grocery store regular. When you listen to country songs or you listen to just all other genres, people are down to talk about, you know what I'm saying? Other stuff. Regular life stuff.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No. That's interesting because when people think R and B, you automatically think love. You think girls. But like, what is. You can just sing about a good day.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And it's relatable. It's relatable. So that's how you always win people over.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

So are you saying you got them type of songs on Tycoon?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

So what can we expect on Tycoon? A bunch of the same subject.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

No, it's not, man. It's crazy. Tycoon is crazy. You gonna get the. You gonna get the party. You're gonna get the love. You're gonna get the My type of love. You gonna get the, you know, real life. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne tha God]

What's your type of love, Ty? Because you just said you shy.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I said I was. Mine may not be like everybody else's, but you go get my point of view. So stay. Stay tuned. 10:17.

[Charlamagne tha God]

When you talk about soul, right? Like. Like, what does soul mean to you? Is it the sound? Is it the feeling? Is it the truth behind the music?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah, it's definitely the truth. It's the intention. It's. It's the blackness. All that, you know.

[Podcast Host]

So at this point, with the. The last. The last thing that we said switching gears, the last thing that we saw with you and Kanye. Right. Where are y' all right now today? Is there, like, what's your relationship like today?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Six. Seven. Six, seven.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You couldn't have been shocked when he. When he came at you, though.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Shocked.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Because you know what I always tell people? If you want to see how somebody's eventually going to treat you, watch how they've treated others.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Eventually it's going to be your turn.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah. I mean, I didn't. Six, seven, bro.

[DJ Envy]

I love Vultures one, though. I ain't gonna lie.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Thank you. Me too. I thought that was a great album.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Had had a lot of fun making it, too.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do you think the world knows your full story yet?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

There's. There's bits and pieces, but that's why I'm glad I finally got to shoot this documentary. Still free. TC on a way. Then you really get it. You really, like, feel me, feel me? You feel me?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Like, yeah, when the world knows your voice but not your full story, does that ever feel isolating? Like, you alone?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Nah. Cause what I put out was the music. What I wanted people to know was the music.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Gotcha.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

And then now it's like, all right, cool. I'll give you a little bit more.

[DJ Envy]

When did you record?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I'm actually lucky that it went this way, because I see how it goes with other people, you know, what did.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You care about the before? They care about exactly.

[DJ Envy]

Nothing else.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We good?

[DJ Envy]

All right, cool. When did you record Jit tracks with Tory Lanez? And Lil Durk?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

A minute ago.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah, but just revamped them.

[DJ Envy]

Gotcha.

[Podcast Host]

And what about Tycoon with Thug Baby and Future?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Oh, you know about that.

[Podcast Host]

I see Truckers.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah, we just did that recently.

[DJ Envy]

So how you connect? The same studio. I'm a band.

[Angela Yee]

No, go ahead.

[Podcast Host]

I was gonna say all. Not all in the same studio.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Not all in the same studio, no.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Okay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You don't like doing interviews do you?

[DJ Envy]

He does not.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And it's okay. You don't like doing interviews?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I. With y'. All. How long you been knowing each other?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Absolutely. But I know you.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I'm comfortable. Niggas be like, oh, you know, it's only one shot. You know, you can't. I'm like, what? I'm. It's regular.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The homies. But if you could just do the music. You'd rather just do the music Music and perform?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Nah, cuz, we got to do this part. People want to know. People want to know what's up. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

And it's like, I don't mind. It's all a part of the job. I don't mind eating right, working out, waking up, not sleeping. It's way more than just music, you know what I'm saying? So if you thought you was just going to do music, good luck. My.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Is it easier to do it now since you are like such an established artist, though? Like, people do know Ty Dollar Sign for the music.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Nah, I wouldn't say it's easier now. I say we had to go through so much to get to this point. And now I would want to say it's on airplane mode, but it's still motherfucking, you know? Yeah, it's like that too.

[Podcast Host]

When you say you had to go through so much, was it because your sound was so new for a lot of people or.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah, just think of it like this, man. My shit didn't boom until I was 27. I've been making music since I was like nine years old. Wow. You know, so thank God for that. And I'm 40 now, so what keeps you grounded when.

[Charlamagne tha God]

When fame and ego and chaos feel like it's just part of the industry? Rhythm, like.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah. I mean, I just stay doing me and not being on bullshit when other people be on bullshit. Laugh, do whatever you got to do. Scroll next. But I stay doing me. You know what I'm saying? I'm about my. I'm about my business.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I didn't know you had a 20 year old daughter, though.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Wow. So how's that been? Like, you know, I mean, I'm just saying, growing up in the industry, you always clearly had a different purpose if you.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Well, you knew I had a daughter though, right? Or no.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

That's the great thing about these interviews, you know what I'm saying? Some people don't know and I've been knowing you forever, so. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But 20. I mean, 20 is a big age.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I mean, she was nine and now she's 20. That's how it goes. That should be quick though. Like, I remember my mom used to always say, like how fast life goes and you don't realize it until.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's real shit.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

For me it was like after the pandemic. It's like when you were going through that pandemic, it was one thing, and then after it, even the music industry, I feel like just changed. It was like a whole switch up. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Good or bad?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Good in some ways. Bad in some ways.

[DJ Envy]

How can somebody get to know you if they're dating you? How do you, how do you just.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

You gotta communication and being around every day. That's how you get to know me.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, I just wanted to know. Cause you ain't giving us shit.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

That's why I'm like, I mean, what y' all want me to give you?

[DJ Envy]

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[Ed Helms]

Hey, it's Ed Helms. And welcome back to snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu. Every single episode.

[Maggie Freeling]

32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop.

[Podcast Host]

What?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s.

[Ed Helms]

Basketball player who still wore knee pads.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[Ed Helms]

It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

A whole lot of guests.

[Ed Helms]

The great Paul Shear made me feel good. I'm like, oh, wow, Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.

[Eva Longoria]

What was that like for you to.

[Maggie Freeling]

Soft launch into the show?

[Ed Helms]

Sorry, Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today.

[Eva Longoria]

I forgot whose podcast we were doing.

[Ed Helms]

Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's, let's, let's see how it goes. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Envy]

All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Maggie Freeling]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[DJ Envy]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Maggie Freeling]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Maggie Freeling]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said.

[DJ Envy]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Maggie Freeling]

From lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Charlamagne tha God]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[DJ Envy]

How would it be like dating him? Like, I wonder if. If she finds out.

[Charlamagne tha God]

If.

[DJ Envy]

Does it take her, like years to find out?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

No, you're gonna find out everything. First day, first couple weeks, I'm gonna just say it. I'm gonna just say it. I like transparency. Gotcha. I like you to know what's up. I don't like surprises and I don't like playing with people. And I don't like people playing with me. So.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

If. If you with it. Let's. Let's see what we're gonna do.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You don't be telling these girls everything.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I'll be telling them everything.

[DJ Envy]

For real.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I'll be telling them everything. And they know each other.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, damn.

[Podcast Host]

Somebody. That's not a monocular.

[DJ Envy]

I was about to say, because we was talking about the. The old Cam Newton thing and do you have to know a girl's body count?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Body count? I don't know. Well, are they really going to tell me, is the question, or if they've.

[DJ Envy]

Ever slept with anybody else in the industry that you may rub elbows with, you may be meeting.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

That is a question I asked. And I would tell you if we walk into a room and. Oh, yeah, just so you know. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Got you. No surprises.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

No surprises.

[DJ Envy]

Got you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And are you willing to stay with a girl or she been with like a few of the homies.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Stay with. I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

A few of the homies is crazy.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

But you know what's funny, man? It's like I've run into a couple and it be a couple.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

You know, it's happened more than one time where. Oh, yeah. Well, him, him or him. Him and him. Or maybe can you take that serious though, relationship wise and see it be up because you already like him by the time you find out.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

And he be like, damn.

[DJ Envy]

But you can't take that back, though. It was before you.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

You try to. You try to think of it like that.

[Angela Yee]

Be throwing in your side every time you see the homie.

[DJ Envy]

But.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah, nah, then you walk off, you look back and you see him and the other homie David, like, rb.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Think he doing something.

[DJ Envy]

We been hit that damn, yo.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, crazy you. I mean, you're R B, but it's like a different type of R B. Are you like an emotional person in a Relationship. And that gives you inspo for your music too, or.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah, I can be sure. I could definitely be emotional.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How much of that comes. How much of that comes from your own personal highs and lows, though?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

What you mean by that?

[Charlamagne tha God]

The emotion. The emotion that you put in the music. How much of that comes from you? Your own personal.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

In my music? Yeah. Yeah. Some of it's personal. Some of it's like if I do a song with a writer. You know what I mean? Whatever. But I still put my. My passion into it, you know, I still put my. My whole thing into it, for sure.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What's the last thing you looked at online about yourself and laughed?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Last thing I looked at online about myself and laughed is niggas calling me Jar Jar Binks.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, that's hilarious.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what I call her.

[Podcast Host]

He calls me that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what I call her.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I didn't know who Jar Jar Binks was before this.

[Podcast Host]

And then when you looked at it, how did you feel like when you saw him?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Well, when you see the one picture from the ordinary video, the way my hair was.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, man.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

And then you put it next to Jar Jar Binks is actually hilarious. Like, this shit's funny.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You didn't laugh when they said you was on neon screen kissing a man.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Okay, see this Romani man? That's the homie from Brazil. This is how he does all the homies. Like, oh, what's up, my? And we told him, like, yo, he didn't actually kiss me, bro, if you really look close. But yeah, he just made it sound so. What, Nick, I had a fishnet shirt on that was sexy as and your was loving it.

[DJ Envy]

I know that's right.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

How about that? Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That used to be regular fish, that, back in the, like, 90s.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I forgot what type of shirt that was, but that was expensive too.

[DJ Envy]

Nipple peeking.

[Podcast Host]

I like it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So that's a career.

[Angela Yee]

That was the Jamaican shirt back in the day.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

It was.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Did you have. Did you have to explain that to anybody, though?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I don't ever have to explain.

[Podcast Host]

You don't say much.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You had to laugh, though.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

It was funny. I definitely called that like, bruh. See, I told your stupid ass. We don't even. That's not how it is out here. We don't do that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What he say?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

He was like, man, I'm gonna be me every time. Like, you know, I ain't get. Well, this. Well, he's married and. But yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

What's your favorite?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Women love him, huh? Favorite collaboration that you've made collaboration I ever made is miracle. On my first album, Free tc and I was with my brother TC D loke. My sister was singing on there. Everybody. I like those like family, you know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that's what's up.

[Podcast Host]

I saw you say that is this album right? You said it's perfect for shrooms.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Nah, I hate shrooms.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, I saw it was an interview with Bootleg Cab that you did during the. The media room.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

When I said, what Tycoon?

[Podcast Host]

I thought it was tycoon.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah. No, no, no, that must have been wrong.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Damn.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, I look it up again.

[Podcast Host]

I'm looking at it right here. It's posted, it's a live interview. But, you know, maybe it there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Why you don't like shrooms?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Transcribing it wrong back in the day. Okay, shrooms, it can be fun. People laugh, da da da da da. But if a bad thing happens on shrooms, it's that same energy of the greatness reverse. So I forgot what song it was. I think it was motion, like this song right before Vultures that I put out. I was going to do radio interviews up and down California. Start off in the bay, drive down. It's just me, the rep from Atlantic and the driver. And I'm like, you know what? I'm about to take one of these little corners of this chocolate bar, go do these interviews, be a funny ass. Like, have all the energy, you feel me? Early morning, all this. It worked well. I went and started and did my interviews. It was going crazy, just having fun. Then we get back in the car and I'm looking at the phone and the homies is like, well, I actually talked to my homie the day before and he was in the hospital and I was supposed to go see him the next day. I had to go do these interviews. And my plan was as soon as I got back to la, I was going to go to the hospital, but on the drive down, they said he passed away.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, wow.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

While I'm on mushrooms in the backseat by myself and nobody to talk to. And it's just like, ah, yeah. And it made me just like never want to fuck with that shit ever again.

[DJ Envy]

Damn. I'm so sorry.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah, yeah. Long live my brother, Big. Why?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, Shit.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Mm.

[DJ Envy]

I got some. I was ready do soon as I went home. No, you never did the actual plant. That was just a.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

See that chocolate bar? I thought about that part too. That was the chocolate one. And back in the day when it was the actual plant. Yeah, it was. I had way Better times. So I don't know, right? All that.

[DJ Envy]

All that candy shit.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Nah, you need to actually plant.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I didn't know the story was gonna be dark. If I knew it was gonna be dark, I wouldn't even ask about it. I thought it was gonna be like.

[DJ Envy]

We didn't expect the trip la.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

But maybe there's light in that. Maybe there's. Maybe we just kept somebody off of doing drugs. You feel me?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, yeah, for sure, definitely. Especially the chocolate one's. Naughty.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You, you. You owned your publishing, right?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You sold it in what, 2018?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I think I saw some of.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Some of it, yeah. Tell people the importance of owning your publishing and being able to do that.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah, it's very important because you could sell it straight up or you could keep it and just gain more wealth. Gain more wealth and sell one day it's just like any business, right? You start a fashion, like a whatever, a clothing company or a food thing or whatever, a car company. The goal is build that all the way up and then sell it, move to the next business, right?

[Charlamagne tha God]

So, you know, don't be understanding that though.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

It's crazy. It's very simple math though, guys.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What made you think. What made you think long term that early though? Because a lot of people selling publishing out the gate. What made, you know, like, nah, I need to keep.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I really felt like this selling the publishing thing is a newer thing that I started hearing about. I. I didn't used to hear about it back in the day. Like over the last four years I've been hearing about people selling their publishing. So luckily my catalog is crazy. So I was able to, you know, stack up and do a whole. Start a whole new business.

[Charlamagne tha God]

When you think about technology and AI and how it's changing music, what excites you and worries you about the future?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

What worries me is the laziness of people, right? It's like now that we have cell phones, niggas don't remember numbers. Maybe that's not important, you know what I mean? No more. But back in the day, you had to remember numbers, you had to remember directions, you had to remember all that shit. I'm sure niggas in school go right to the phone for everything instead of actually using their brains. So it's going to make people lazier, but at the same time, it's going to create new sounds and new that we didn't have before.

[Angela Yee]

What do you think about, you know, like they said, there's a artist that somebody designed.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Had a. I think a number one R B record or a record where they don't actually need the artist. You basically are the producer and you create that artist. You create the sound, you create the song.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

You ain't got to worry about manager. You ain't got to worry about glam team. You ain't got to worry about security.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

You create. Yeah, I think it's. I think it's fucking cool for whoever figured it out and is getting paid off of it, but I'm curious to see how the show's gonna go. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

You know what I'm saying? How the fuck you gonna pull that off? But if you could do that, and game fans, I'm. I'll give another congrats to whoever figures it out. But, you know, to a person that spends their life learning their craft and going hard, you know, don't. Don't let that discourage you, man. Keep going. You know what I'm saying? Because I still respect who really know how to do it. Like a me or a Leon Thomas or. There's many people I can name.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So you ain't with the AI.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I will like on certain things. Like I'll. I'll. They got this thing on Serato or even on Pro Tools now where I could put a song in there and just take the drums or just take the bass line or just take a background vocal or whatever. And it's cool on some sampling shit because back in the day, you could only sample the whole track, so.

[Angela Yee]

Or you couldn't get an instrument or you couldn't get an acapella. That's so simple now.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah. So I like that part of it because I like making beats and I like, you know, creating sounds.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I wonder how that's going to impact the writers, too, because if somebody just goes and says, write me a tie dollar sign sounding record or write me a Leon Thomas sounding record, like, it's kind of like if that should start getting good, they don't need y' all anymore. In a way.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I don't think it's going to get that good because it's not gonna have the. What we're doing out here on the streets. You know what I'm saying? You gotta always update it so we're gonna have it first, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

When you think. When you talk about, you know, the loss you've experienced earlier. Right. How has grief reshaped your relationship with music and your own mental health?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

How has it reshaped it? I don't know if it Reshaped it. But I just have learned to keep a focus about me. It's like, there's going to be many hurdles in the way, and I. I got tough skin, I will say that. And in this business, you definitely got to have tough skin for sure, because the bad shit is going to come. But as long as you got that focus about you, you can keep going.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Cause I heard you say earlier, now you getting up early, you working out. It wasn't always like that, right?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I mean, I had my time when I was working out crazy, and then I fell off, and then now I'm back. It's like, it's all in what you want to do. And I felt like. I don't know, it was during the pandemic, I could say, is when I just, like, stopped caring and stopped, like, working out. And then all this time, I just. I was putting out more music, getting busy, not really, like, on it, but now I started caring about that again, and it feels good. It was one day when my mom was like, yo, do you still love what you're doing? And I was like, of course I still love what I was doing out, man. She was like, I don't know, because, you know, people get tired. And I just couldn't see what she meant by that. Like, why would I ever get tired of this? And then probably last year, around October, around, like, the same time last year, I went to go perform in Miami at this spot called 11. And by the second song, my motherfucking back went out while I was on stage. I'm like, ah. And that's when I knew, yo, you got to take this serious again. You got to get your shit together. So now I feel like I'm fucking 25 again.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That back went out. You're like, oh, shit, I'm about to be 40.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Nah, but you right, though. You got to take care of yourself. Yeah, absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

Leon Thomas, in his career was. Is like, such a success story. I saw you call him king of R B.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Right?

[Podcast Host]

When you're looking for other artists now, is it R and B that you're trying to stay in the lane of? Or, like, what type of artists are you looking for now for your label that you have?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah, just, like, the greatest artists possible. Like, people that are actually good people that aren't. Just, like, you could tell, man. It's like, certain people that just want to get famous or just get lucky. You know what I'm saying? Or just have popularity, and it's like, that should be cool. But when it comes to Easy Money. We want the real deal.

[DJ Envy]

You know, over at Easy Money, do y' all invest in artist development? Because that's not something that's around anymore. Like you said, most people want to get famous just to be famous or.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You know, for the shits and giggles, the likes and all that type.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

If there was something that I love that much, that I believed in, I would invest in that. But I. I more so like working with Easy Lifters. Meaning, like, that you got your together. I've. I used to have my old label, the Movement. I've started many labels.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Sign many people. But now it's like, Leon is. Has been the easiest person to work with. So now that's like my blueprint. It's like, if you ain't got it like that, then I don't even want to waste my time, because it's the same as I am.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

You know, I'm, like, gonna come with the shit fully done. I'm gonna do my part. So now when I get my team, it's like, all right, you do your part. You do your part, and we can all win together.

[DJ Envy]

Right?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

You know what I mean? So I want a person that has this shit together. The last meeting that we went, I said this in another interview, but I'm telling to y', all, the last meeting we went to at Capital Motown for Leon, this pulls out his laptop. Oh, you guys got an HDMI cable. They hook it up. He PowerPoint display. This is how the album's gonna go. These are the directors I want to work with. These are the colors I want to use. This is my stage. Da, da da. And I'm like, oh, this is all I need from Utah. Can you make this happen? Yeah. I want to get Chris Brown on the song. You feel me? Like, like that, like, got your together.

[DJ Envy]

Easy money.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

And then it makes it easy, you know?

[Podcast Host]

Were there ever any artists that in all of your label journeys.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That you didn't sign, and now that you're like, oh, maybe they weren't all the way to having their shit together, but I should have, because now I see them, and they get it now.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Like your artist, you feel like you missed out on that?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I missed out on. Not for real. Not like that. I didn't have my shit together when it was like, when I first met yg. So we did it more team. Right. You know what I mean? But we still. You know, we still rocking. He. On my newest song, I just put out Smile, Body, Pretty Face featuring Kodak and yg.

[DJ Envy]

I need A love making banger with you and Leon Thomas.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

I got you, okay?

[DJ Envy]

No question.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

That's what I want done.

[DJ Envy]

That's why I need. Yo, I ain't gonna ask you no more.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

All right?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Is a perfect person to do a crime with because he ain't gonna tell the police.

[DJ Envy]

I love it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I mean, you can interrogate him all day, he gonna be sitting there with that hoodie on 67, you know what I'm saying?

[Ty Dolla $ign]

41, 41, 41.

[Angela Yee]

Ladies and gentlemen, Tycoon comes out on the 17th. It's Ty Dollar Sign. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The Breakfast Club.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

You all finish or y' all done?

[Johnny Knoxville]

Johnny Knoxville here. Check out Crimeless Hillbilly Heist, my new true crime podcast from Smartless Media, Campside Media and big money players. It's the true story of the almost perfect crime and the nimrods who almost pulled it off.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was kind of like the perfect.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

Storm in a sewer.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That was dumb. Do not follow my example.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Maggie Freeling]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went viral, unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Charlamagne tha God]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[True Crime Narrator]

Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lashay Dungey. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. And that text message would be the last time anyone would ever, ever hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Eva Longoria]

I'm Eva Longoria. And I'm Maite Gomez Rejun. And this week on our podcast, Hungry for History, we talk oysters. Plus, the Miami chief stops by.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

If you're not an oyster lover, don't even talk to me.

[Eva Longoria]

Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells to vote politicians into exile.

[Ty Dolla $ign]

So?

[Eva Longoria]

So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.

[DJ Envy]

No way.

[Eva Longoria]

Bring back the ostricon.

[DJ Envy]

Listen to Hungry for History on the.

[Eva Longoria]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Host]

This is an iHeart podcast.