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INTERVIEW: Vlad on Controversies, Feds Fumbling Diddy Case, Apologizing To Marlon Wayans, Nicki Minaj +More
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DJ Envy
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Charlamagne Tha God
Every day I wake up.
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DJ Vlad
Wake your ass up.
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Charlamagne Tha God
The Breakfast Club.
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Lauren LaRosa
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Our guy.
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Lauren LaRosa
He's locking up all you rappers. I'm just joking. That guy. Ladies and gentlemen, Vlad tv. DJ Vlad.
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DJ Vlad
What's up, Vlad? What's up, y'? All? Glad to be back. Glad to be back. I've been doing this, what, for like a decade now?
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Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, longer than that.
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DJ Vlad
Longer than that. Absolutely. We go back.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Good to see you, man.
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DJ Vlad
Thank you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
It is funny, though, because the allegations of Vlad being a fed seem to increase every single time somebody gets locked up from the hip hop community.
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DJ Vlad
Just is what it is, man. Just is what it is at this point.
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DJ Envy
Why do you even, like, address it at this point? Like, when people get locked up, you come out with still, like, have the conversation or entertain the conversation.
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DJ Vlad
I mean, why not? Why not? Because it's not true. It's not true. When you talk to the actual rappers who have gotten arrested, they'll say in interviews, Vlad had nothing to do with it. This interview had nothing to do with my case. You can go through the transcripts. Every so often there's like a fake story. Like, I remember at one point, like, there was this fake story that circulated. A bunch of celebrities like Questlove were retweeting. It was like, judge thanks, DJ Vlad for helping to convict Arab. This white judge had nothing to do with the real judge and so forth. And it was a fortune from a. Like a website no one's ever heard of. Wasn't a real website, but people retweeting and so forth. It's like, you just gotta. Gotta deal with it. It is what it is. But, you know, like, when I came into the game, like, I wanted to ask the tough questions. I wanted to be the 60 minutes of hip hop. I always felt like at that time that hip hop media was really softball and they wouldn't ask the real tough questions. I came in like, yo, I'm gonna change, you know, I'm gonna change this and I'm gonna be different. And that's what I've stuck on this whole time.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I also don't understand if, if somebody sits down with you, that's what I was gonna say. And agrees to sit down with Vlad TV in front of a camera and answer questions. Why is it your fault? Why? Like, why is it your fault?
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Lauren LaRosa
They can say no comment. They can say, I'm not answering that. They can say it's a case going. They can say so many different things.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah. And I'm also very, very careful with people. Like, I've turned down interviews when there are open cases.
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DJ Envy
Really? Oh yeah, I'm surprised to hear you say that.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah, like for example, like Draco the Ruler, when he was facing his murder case, his manager was like, yo, he wants to do an interview, he wants to tell aside. And I'm like, you got an open murder case right?
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Charlamagne Tha God
Right now.
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DJ Vlad
And you know, once you beat it, like you can come and we'll talk about it. Which is exactly what we did. Once he beat it, we did a whole interview. Same thing with Taxtone. When he was going through his case, he wanted to do an interview and I'm like, yo, you're my friend and I don't want this interview to be used against you in this case, so I just have to turn you down. I mean, ultimately he ended up losing anyways, but I didn't want to contribute to that. I'm like, even if you hate me after this, like, I just don't want to do this.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I get it.
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DJ Vlad
So I'm very.
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Vlad TV Guest
You also worked in music as well too, right? Like before all of this, I was a dj. He was a dj.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah, yeah.
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Lauren LaRosa
Turntables in years now.
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DJ Vlad
But.
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Lauren LaRosa
I used to be popping with the mixtape.
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DJ Vlad
That's true. Like I won mixtape of the year, I won mashup of the year. Like I've won, you know, just those mixtape awards which you're part of as well. You know, you've won your awards. When I was part of that, I felt like I was like one of the top guys during that era. But then when Vlad TV came around, I had to shift and kind of focus on a of lot a long term career because being a mixtape DJ and being a DJ in general is just a tough job. As you know. As you know. And I felt like as I was getting older, I gotta like think ahead 10, 20 years to see What I'm gonna do in my life.
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Lauren LaRosa
I want to ask what, you know, with the whole big u rolling 60s. They threw your name in it. A thousand and ten, a little bit.
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DJ Envy
They blamed you. They said because of their interviews on your channel is the reason why the whole indictment, all the things happen.
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DJ Vlad
I've never heard that. That I did one interview with Big U like three, four years ago, which I don't think has anything to do with that case. Me and Big U, you know, maintain a relationship and a friendship. We talk a couple times a year. I was really shocked and hurt when I heard that happen. I've never heard of my name connected to any of that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, who said where that came from?
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DJ Envy
Yeah, there's headlines all over. Actually. You commented back on some of them. You defended it. You did a sit down with tmz DJ Vlad speaks on Big Urs. Interviews don't indict, but crimes do.
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DJ Vlad
So, I mean, they asked me about it in general. Yeah, but not because I was connected to it in any way. Look through the whole paperwork. My name's not in the paperwork at all.
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DJ Envy
No, at all. I don't think it's a like, because even when you're. Because I. I know because working at tmz, when TMZ used to come up in documents, it just comes up because they go find whatever they can. I don't think people think you're act. Well, no, that's not true. I was gonna say I don't think people think you're actually working with the feds, like you're like an informant. But people. Some people do believe that. But I think it's more of like, people feel like your interviews get people to talk about things that are then either directly used in paperwork or even if not directly, they stem to things that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Whose fault is that? That's not. I don't care. That's not his fault because he asked the questions. If I, as an interviewer, if I ask you a question about something, you can say, no comment.
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Lauren LaRosa
You don't have to answer.
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Charlamagne Tha God
But if you answer it and then it's used later, that ain't my fault.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah, people don't really realize also, like, the majority of the time when I interview people, like, especially when I do, like, kind of the true crime type stuff, these people have already done the time for that crime, you know, so I've speaking. You know, I've spoken to people that have committed murders, done serious crimes, like, you know, Terence Gangster Williams, birdman's brother, did 40 murders that he admitted to. But these are all things that they've already cooperated with, they've already done their time with, and they have the right to speak on that. They've given up big chunks of their lives for the ability to speak on that. You know, I've never talked to people about open cases on or off camera. You could talk to anybody, like, off camera. Like, I don't know what you're doing in your private life. I don't know if you want to leave Vlad TV and go rob a bank. They say Vlad TV got him arrested. I didn't tell him to go rob that bank. So. So a lot of people, I mean, look, hip hop is very street oriented. You know, people that are doing, you know, they're rapping and they're producing whatever else. They're also doing stuff on the side, like the Casanova two Time situation. I did one interview with him when he first started out, and then he got caught up for some other stuff way later on. I hadn't interviewed him in years and years, but somehow people said, oh, the Vlad TV interview got him. Got him locked up. But no, there's DMs, there was messages, there was a whole case, there was snitches, there was so forth. We had nothing to do with it. He himself will say that I had nothing to do with it. But people would like to connect it, like, oh, he asked this question, so obviously that's the reason. But just comes to the territory.
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Lauren LaRosa
How many times have the feds came to you for. Maybe they felt that there was an interview that you only played a little bit part or they were looking for extras. How many times have they reached out to you?
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DJ Vlad
One time.
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DJ Envy
Was that Keefe D?
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DJ Vlad
No. Okay. Well, no, sorry, you're right. Two times. Two times. One time was with Jimmy Henchman. Yeah. We did an interview with him. He mentioned a few things about his case, and he was in the process of getting an appeal. Well, getting. Getting like a retrial, I guess. So the next day he called me, said, hey, listen, my lawyer listened to this, and he said that this might hurt my case. Can you take it down? I said, no problem. Six months later, the Justice Department called me up and they're like, we want this footage because they wanted the original footage. They had a copy of it because people had reposted it or whatever else, but they wanted the original footage. And I said, I'm not giving it to you. Well, we'll put you on the stand. I said, well, you'll have to speak to my lawyer at that point. So I spent, like, $10,000 in lawyer fees, and we actually blocked them from obtaining the footage. And he went, you know, he had a retrial, and he lost anyways. But I didn't want to contribute to that. Like, if you're going to come and interview on my show, I'm not going to then cooperate with the police to get you locked up. I will do my best to protect you, even if I have to spend thousands of dollars. The other case was the Keefe D case. Las Vegas PD reached out to me, like, a dozen times and kept leaving messages for the raw footage, and I always just ignored him. So you.
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Lauren LaRosa
I didn't know that. I thought usually they would fight you tooth and nail to get that footage and they would subpoena you and all.
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DJ Vlad
That, but they tried for the. For the Jimmy Henchman case. They actually took it to whoever. I think Jeff Sessions was in charge during that time, and he wouldn't sign off on it. But it was a very interesting case. I think it would have set legal precedent because we put it up and then we took it down. And they're like, well, we still want it. I'm like, well, freedom of the press. I could protect my. My footage. But you already put it up. I'm like, well, it doesn't matter. I took it down. So if they were able to actually successfully subpoena it, that was set, you know, kind of a precedent for future people that took stuff down. You can go back into history and so forth, but ultimately, I will do my best to protect you. I will do my very, very best.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Say that, Vlad. I think that's. That. Because if they want the. If the feds want the evidence and you're saying that, then they might can say you're. What's the word? What's the conspirator? It's not conspirator, but it's something about blocking people from evidence.
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DJ Vlad
It's not a conspirator. I'm not saying I don't have it. I'm saying I'm not evidence. But. But they have to go through a legal process. I got a criminal lawyer that went back and forth with the feds and so, so forth, and ultimately they weren't successful. They threatened to put me on the stand. I said, go ahead and put me on the stand if that's what you got to do. Like, I'm not a criminal. If that's the worst things, you know, you could do to me, I'll take the stand. And I. I'll be A hostile witness, you know, that's what ultimately happened.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You know, your. If you was to put those interviews up and say they were true crime, them shit would blow up. The fact that they're kind of like labeled hip hop is what keeps them seriously. Because true crime is like the biggest genre.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
In podcasting, if you was to put those interviews up as true crime, they'd be out of here.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah, I mean, we're talking to a bunch of networks right now. We've had like network meetings for the last few weeks about having a Vlad TV true crime series. You know, no one's actually signed, you know, the contract yet, but, you know, hopefully something like that will happen. But yeah, I've been doing true crime really for 17 years.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Not very beginning that though. If you was labeling, I mean, don't get me wrong, black TV does great, but if you was labeling the true crime. And you still can.
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DJ Vlad
I mean, I still do. I mean, in my own way. Yeah. I mean, like the Keefe D interview. But we've also done a lot of really, really big interviews. Michael Francis, I'm Sammy the Bulls, a regular guest on my show. And you know, we went to his whole story. A lot of Mexican mafia, you know, Western familia interviews and so forth. Ms. 13 I mean, all around. And like, a lot of these guys, they now come to me to do their first interview, like, and that's, and that's kind of the cool part, you know, like, people like, trust me to tell their story because they feel that I will accurately tell it and tell the whole story as opposed to just focus on a couple, like, things.
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Lauren LaRosa
You get nervous with that though, because you're talking about some, some real people, not rappers. You talking about some real people that have you swimming with the fishes.
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DJ Vlad
I mean, look, I have armed security usually, you know, most times during these interviews. And I mean, these people are coming to me to tell their story. They know that I don't mean them any harm. They know that I'm actually benefiting them. And a lot of people like, you know, like, for example, like Terrence Gangster Williams, like he came out of prison and he wanted to do his first interview with me. Now he has a full blown YouTube career. You know, he makes six digits where he actually supports himself without having to work a job because he's still on probation. So he has to keep a certain type of job. You know, I remember one of the really success stories was that gangster had an arch enemy named Lil Diesel that someone asked me to bring up the name during this One interview. And he's like, yeah, you know, me and him were, like, at war. People were getting killed, stabbed, and so forth. And the last time we saw each other, we pulled out knives. Lil Diesel reached out to me and said, hey, I want to do an interview. I said, do you want to do one with Terrence? He goes, yeah. So I flew them both into New York. I had NYPD in the building. I explained to them, like, listen, if y' all end up stabbing each other, you're gonna get arrested. I can't do anything about it, right? So everyone got. You know, y' all got a razor in your mouth or something. So everyone got frisk, whatever else. They did an interview, and then after the interview, they became friends, and. And Diesel actually moved in with gangster, and he lives with gangster and gangster's mom, and now they're best friends. What the hell are you talking about? They went from arch enemies that weren't that trying to kill each other. Like, gangster had this whole scar down his stomach from a fight, from a gang fight they got into, and now they live together. They're roommates. Like, how crazy is that?
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Vlad TV Guest
That's a little different.
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DJ Vlad
Because of the interview, because I put them in the same room, and I got him back together.
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Charlamagne Tha God
There's a sitcom there somewhere. Absolutely. It's definitely a sitcom.
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Vlad TV Guest
Do you have, like, favorite people to interview? Because I see Boosie up there, Aries Spears, all the time. Are you, like, friends with them? Do they call you or you calling them like, yo, come up here and talk about this?
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DJ Vlad
Yeah, I mean, me and Booy, you know, we've had a relationship forever. I'm actually flying out there in a couple weeks to do another feature on him and his home. Me and Booy. It's a little bit more business. You know, me and Aries, you know, we chop it up. I mean, but really, all my regular guests kind of become friends to a certain degree over time, you know, because I realized early on I can't keep getting new people every single day, every single week. So I had to start, you know, working with repeat guests. And, you know, they worked out. There's certain people that really just kind of blown up. Like, Lord Jamar, he's back on Vlad TV again. I'm doing him later today. And.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And you pay.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah, and I paid people. Yeah. All my regular guests get paid.
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Charlamagne Tha God
How did the Lord Jamar situation get reconciled? I never. We never even talked about that often.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, it happened over the Farrakhan situation. Right.
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Lauren LaRosa
So what happened? Yeah, Break down Why y' all stopped spe.
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DJ Vlad
So. So I misquoted Farrakhan. And I remember me and you were talking during that time. There was a video that was circulating that had Farrakhan saying certain things about Jewish people. But the video was cut at a certain time where he kind of explained himself later on and didn't. He wasn't really saying what inferred from that particular clip. So at the time, you know, I put out kind of a statement, but I didn't really put out an apology. And a bunch of people got pissed off at me, you know, like, you know, Jamar was one of them. So we just stopped talking for about five years and. And then my whole thing was like, I was planning on doing an apology and so forth. So me and Willie D. Have been close friends for a long time, and he's a big, big Farrakhan supporter. Been on stage with him, long conversation with him and so forth. So I said, listen, when I do the apology, I'm going to come to Houston. I'm going to do it with you. So that's exactly what I did. I flew to Houston. We sat down. I knew it wasn't going to be a softball interview because he really went hard for Farrakhan, but he was also my friend and he respected me. He never spoke about me publicly and so forth. So we did the interview and it came out and then, you know, it had a lot of good, like, you know, people like Killer Mike called me to thank me and, you know, and so forth. And Jamar just called me up one day and was like, hey, man. Like, he had mentioned because he did this interview with his pit bull. He had like a baby pit bull in this one interview. And then he had said how his pit bull recently died. And he started thinking about kind of like the cycle of life and our relationship and so forth. So we got on the phone and we chopped it up. We had a long conversation. Then we had another follow up conversation where I'm like, why don't you come back and do the show? He's like, yo, let's do it. And we did it. Now we. We rocking back again.
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Charlamagne Tha God
It makes me wonder, you know, did Jamar just feel. Lloyd Jamal feel like he just had to be like that with you because of public pressure, you know?
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DJ Vlad
Yeah, somewhat. I mean, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of backlash. And it was like my first, like, cancel moment. You know, we've all gone through, like, you know. You know, I mean, I know for a fact I've gone through it, and the first time you go through it, you're like, damn, like the whole world is turning against me. You know? But then you start to see who your real friends are, you know, because certain people like you, you know, like, we've always had a close relationship. You've never spoken against me. You know, people like Willie, people like. Like Tradi and so forth, they may feel a certain type of way, but, you know, people like John Salley, people like Michael Jai White, like, you got to see who, you know, your real friends are who really were there for you. So it was kind of a bad experience and a good experience at the same time.
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Lauren LaRosa
You had a very controversial stance when it came to Diddy.
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DJ Vlad
Right.
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Lauren LaRosa
People were mad at you with your stance with that.
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DJ Vlad
I mean, which part?
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Lauren LaRosa
The Cassie part?
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DJ Vlad
Okay, yeah, yeah. So.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So break it up. If a man wants to rub another man's nut on his nipples, he should be allowed to do that.
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Lauren LaRosa
I didn't hear him say that.
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DJ Vlad
I never said that.
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DJ Envy
You said Cassie is guilty of the same prostitution charges Diddy was just convicted of. I interviewed three of the male escorts. All three of them said the same thing. Cassie picked them, contacted them for free. Cops enjoyed the experiences. Meanwhile, she's sitting on $30 million and writing letters to the judge asking him to not be giving bail.
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Lauren LaRosa
40 million bucks. Go ahead.
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DJ Envy
No, it was 20 and 30.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. I mean, I feel, yeah, if Diddy's Nino Brown, she's g money.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah, it is.
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Charlamagne Tha God
It's true.
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DJ Vlad
Look, I've interviewed the actual escorts. I have two more escorts that are coming in today that I'm interviewing. Sorry. No, tomorrow. Friday. Friday, two more escorts are coming in. And every story is exactly the same. Cassie was with it. She would pick them out. She would actually engage with them. She was happy. There was no type of, like, you know, being forced to do it. Now, one of them did say, you know, who I'm interviewing on Friday did say that he saw Diddy abuser, You know, and what I think is this is ultimately a domestic violence case that has ballooned into RICO and sex trafficking and so forth. But really what it's about is domestic violence, which is if Diddy was charged for, he would be absolutely guilty.
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Lauren LaRosa
Correct.
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DJ Vlad
He's definitely a monster for doing that. But domestic violence is not this case. It's rico. It's a criminal enterprise. It's sex trafficking, which, you know, if you. Look, I did an interview with Shirley Ju because I was at the Hollywood Unlocked Awards, and I was on the red carpet, and she asked Me. What do you think will happen? There's a couple of days before the verdict. I said exactly what the verdict was going to be. So he's going to beat the rico. He's going to beat the sex trafficking. He'll probably catch a prostitution charge and probably get a slap on the wrist and we'll see what happens.
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Lauren LaRosa
But isn't it crazy that usually in a prostitution charge, right, the prostitutes and the pimp gets more of the charges, but in this case, they all got immunity.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, they didn't get immunity. Oh, no, not Cassie.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah, Cassie got immunity too. Cassie got immunity. Everybody got immunity.
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Lauren LaRosa
The prostitutes got immunity. The escort services didn't get charged.
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DJ Envy
But if you're the big guy in the RICO though, right, like if we're talking about. Cause how they tried to set it up was the rico, it didn't work. If you're the big guy, that's what you offer to everyone else to flip. Because you need the evidence, you need people on the stand. So that's not uncommon.
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DJ Vlad
They lost the rico? Yeah, they lost. It wasn't a rico. And look, the prosecutor got fired right after the verdict, which kind of sends a message as to, you know, they probably told her not to do it, but she's like, no, I'm going to do it. I'm going to get him on a rico. I mean, look, the whole thing was ridiculous. And I kind of feel like, you know, and what I feel is that when it comes to a battle, right, and we've all kind of gotten into it with people in various ways, when you win, you should stop. Right? Cassie got $30 million. She got Diddy locked up for a year. He's lost hundreds of millions of dollars. No, Diddy has become the new pause. Right. He will always be considered gay. Ish. For the rest of his life. He's not gonna go to any big award shows, he won't be honored or whatever else.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Well, he was considered gay before that though.
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DJ Vlad
No, but not after the come on the nipple thing.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Like that just adds a different layer to the game. But Wendy was that painted a pretty.
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DJ Vlad
Picture of Diddy, but she didn't know about the come on the nipples. Like that was crazy. He can't win an argument with a man again. They could just pull that out on him, right?
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Vlad TV Guest
So he can pull out on him.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah. You know, he got.
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Charlamagne Tha God
He got.
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DJ Vlad
He got found guilty. And after all that, with 30 million in her pocket, she publicly embarrassed him. Everything else like that, she still wrote a letter to the judge to, to not let him out before the sentencing.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Well, that's where the beating comes into play. And I mean, the prosecution didn't prove it, so it don't matter. But the beating comes into play because they were saying because she was such an abused person, she. She really didn't want to participate in these things. She was doing it because she was afraid that she might get beat if she.
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DJ Vlad
That's not what the participants actually said. I mean, listen, you know Don the dealer, you know, this tall guy with green eyes and so forth. Like, he was like, she picked me. We had a great relationship. And they all said if they felt that she was uncomfortable, they would have left. Like they, you know, but she would pick them. She would pay them, she would be in contact with them. She would meet up with some of them on the side and sneak out. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion.
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Charlamagne Tha God
They said she didn't have it. They didn't. They never said she had immunity, though.
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DJ Envy
They never said it on the stand. But all the other. There was a. There was a few other people that got on the stand that they did the whole immunity, like whatever that exchange back and forth is called. They did it while they were on the stand, but they've never directly said that about her.
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DJ Vlad
Okay, who wants to bet that she won't get charged? No, seriously, I'll bet someone a hundred thousand dollars that she won't get charged. So, yeah, she would have gotten official immunity, but we all know that she's not going to get charged.
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DJ Envy
Question. This is just me being objective.
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DJ Vlad
Yes.
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DJ Envy
Do you think that because a lot of her letter with keeping him locked up and not getting bail, at least was about the fear of, like, Diddy.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You feel like retaliation.
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DJ Envy
Retaliation. You feel like. So you feel like there is no. At this point, if Diddy was to be let go on bail and even he's asking for charges to be dropped or get a new trial, if he was to just be. Let everything free, he's a changed man. Nothing will happen again. People don't have to worry about nothing. You feel like that?
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DJ Vlad
I think that Diddy is terrified of Cassie. I think there's no person on earth that Diddy's more scared of. I think he's more scared of, like, Cassie than Suge Knight.
- [20:56]
Charlamagne Tha God
Really?
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DJ Vlad
Yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I don't think Diddy fears.
- [20:58]
DJ Vlad
I think he's terrified based on what she's done.
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Lauren LaRosa
I think she knows about it.
- [21:02]
DJ Vlad
I think there's more. I think there's some more stuff in there and so forth.
- [21:04]
Charlamagne Tha God
It can't get no worse.
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DJ Vlad
He's like, she has $30 million. She can afford Green Berets and Navy Seals to surround her house if that's what she wants. Like, she has multi generational wealth. Multi generational, generational wealth. And look, I mean, I went at it with Tony Busby on Piers Morgan.
- [21:23]
Charlamagne Tha God
Saw that.
- [21:25]
DJ Vlad
I went in. I went in because, look, you have a hundred victims that all claim they were drugged and raped by Diddy, but nobody in the Fed case could prove that they were drugged and raped by Diddy. They're all found not guilty. You know, he was found not guilty of all those charges. You know. So you mean to say that all those hundred victims were not part of the trial? I just think it was a bullshit lawsuit. That's why me and him went at it.
- [21:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
How much would you pay for a Diddy interview?
- [21:53]
DJ Vlad
The first Diddy interview? Yes. Like, 100. 100,000? Yeah. I dropped 100,000 for the first number, though.
- [22:00]
Charlamagne Tha God
You got to do a little better. Better for Diddy.
- [22:02]
DJ Vlad
I mean, listen, he's rich. Like, I don't think you can pay Diddy. I don't think there's enough money because he's still probably worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
- [22:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [22:09]
DJ Vlad
There's certain people that, like, you can't really pay because they're not going to do it. They're going to do it because they want to do it. Yeah.
- [22:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Has anybody reached out from his family that wants to sit down? Okay.
- [22:20]
Vlad TV Guest
You recently had some comments about Nicki Minaj as well. Snitchy Minaj.
- [22:24]
DJ Vlad
Yes.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Do you.
- [22:25]
Vlad TV Guest
Do you really think what she did was snitching? When she talked to Anna Luna about Top Dog threatening her life?
- [22:29]
DJ Vlad
I mean, number one, Top Dog did not threaten her life. There was this other guy that worked for tde. I think he was like a DJ or something like that. I forgot his name. But he made a comment that said, oh, you know, Nikki don't want with td. You see what Kendrick did? You know, she don't want to be in the blender. And suddenly she's like, TDE is threatening my life at FBI, at CIA. And then like, Luna was like, we're gonna investigate this. It's like, you know damn well nobody threatened your life. You know damn well nobody threatens your life without little comment. You're Nicki Minaj. So you turn around, people call me the Feds, but she's literally tagging the FBI and CIA, talking to representatives who are investigating the situation. Yes, Nicki Minaj.
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Vlad TV Guest
How do you know? How do you know that they didn't how do you know someone did not threaten her life, though?
- [23:17]
DJ Vlad
She's basing it on that. That was a direct response to some guy going on live saying, oh, you'll get put in the blender. Do you really think that this guy is going to chop her up and put her in a blender? Like, seriously, Seriously. Come on.
- [23:31]
Lauren LaRosa
I'm sure the barbs went at you for. For a couple days.
- [23:33]
DJ Vlad
Oh, they still go at me, but.
- [23:35]
Charlamagne Tha God
I thought the putting the blender was slang.
- [23:37]
DJ Vlad
Exactly. I mean, like, she's a rapper. It's rapper slaying. Cut it out. Yeah, cut it out. I don't know what she's on, but this tirade she went on and the whole thing of calling Sza ugly and so forth was like, sizza really don't bother nobody. You know what I'm saying? She really doesn't bother anybody.
- [23:56]
Charlamagne Tha God
Did the bombs go crazy on you?
- [23:57]
DJ Vlad
Yes. Barber said to you, oh, we're gonna kill you. We're gonna kill your family. Like that.
- [24:06]
Vlad TV Guest
Put you in a blender.
- [24:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
So, you know, like, in. In those moments you don't contact nobody.
- [24:12]
DJ Vlad
No, no.
- [24:13]
Charlamagne Tha God
You gotta put it on record.
- [24:15]
DJ Vlad
No, no, no.
- [24:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you win the balls?
- [24:18]
DJ Vlad
When did you.
- [24:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, not the.
- [24:23]
DJ Vlad
Now. Someone shows up on my house, you did it too.
- [24:24]
Lauren LaRosa
But we're not talking about that.
- [24:25]
DJ Vlad
But if someone shows up on my house, then, yeah, I'm gonna absolutely contact the authorities.
- [24:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah, definitely.
- [24:31]
DJ Vlad
You know, or I'm gonna protect myself. Yeah, one of the two. But yeah, like. Like we all. Everyone in this room knows there's the Internet and there's real life, and the two are rarely related. These same people that say they're gonna kill you on the Internet, if they meet you, they want a photo. That's real life. When I walk around, I'm loved. People want to take pictures of me. You guys, I'll go through this. This is not just me. This is everybody. They want to take pictures of me. They want to take pictures with the kids. You know, they tell me how much they love my interviews and so forth. But on. On the Internet, you would think that I'm hated, but that's not reality.
- [25:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
But also, the game needs villains. I don't have a problem being the bad guy.
- [25:06]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, I'm the bad guy.
- [25:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
Sometimes I'm cool with it.
- [25:08]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, me too.
- [25:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't need to be an avenger.
- [25:10]
DJ Vlad
You know what I'm saying?
- [25:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
I could be part of the black. The black order.
- [25:13]
DJ Vlad
With thanos, give me Dr. Doom, you know, that's cool.
- [25:16]
Lauren LaRosa
Has it been somebody you Interviewed that walked out was like, I'm not doing this.
- [25:21]
DJ Vlad
Walked out in the middle of the interview. I mean, ugly. God did at one point. Then he apologized. He was going through a lot of, like, personal, like, mental issues. And we talked about that afterwards. Tretch kind of walked out at the end.
- [25:36]
Lauren LaRosa
Why Tretch walk out?
- [25:38]
DJ Vlad
Tupac questions? You know, we just started talking about the Tupac murder and so forth, and I think Tretch feels like he was assassinated and there was more to it. And he started to get kind of emotional. So he kind of. He didn't, like, storm up. He got up and was like, man, you know, I can't talk about this anymore, and so forth. But in general, like, I don't do. I don't keep pushing people to the point of them, like, snapping. You know, it's just not my style, because I also. I'm not trying to have a platform where people while out and storm out and so forth. Like, that's. You know, Adam is a little bit more like that. He kind of likes that. But if you look at my. My platform, I've never really been into that.
- [26:10]
Vlad TV Guest
Has anybody ever told you a story that got you emotional?
- [26:15]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, yeah, a few times. A few times. The girl Mia from the Tay K case, when she was talking about the, you know, her sex trafficking and what she went through and being like, a teenager and being forced to have sex with a bunch of men in motel rooms and being forced to be a stripper and so forth, that got me a little emotional a few times. A few times I started to kind of cry a little bit. Yeah.
- [26:42]
Vlad TV Guest
What about the Day 26 interview?
- [26:43]
DJ Vlad
Right.
- [26:44]
Vlad TV Guest
When you had you and him crying?
- [26:46]
DJ Vlad
Yeah. I didn't personally get emotional during that, but that was kind of a crazy interview.
- [26:49]
Vlad TV Guest
Yeah.
- [26:49]
DJ Vlad
Because, you know, because I've had a person cry. I mean, I probably have maybe a dozen interviews where people have cried on camera, but I've never seen a whole group of people start to cry at the same time. And they cried in harmony. Yeah, Harmony. Yeah.
- [27:04]
Vlad TV Guest
And that was crazy because they was up here a week before that interview was done.
- [27:08]
Lauren LaRosa
Already, though.
- [27:09]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
- [27:09]
DJ Vlad
Oh, okay.
- [27:09]
Vlad TV Guest
So they came to you first. Okay.
- [27:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I don't think so. Was it.
- [27:12]
DJ Envy
When did you take that?
- [27:12]
Charlamagne Tha God
I think they came. I think they came to y' all even after Breakfast Club, I think.
- [27:15]
DJ Vlad
I think you guys had them first.
- [27:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [27:17]
Lauren LaRosa
I thought you texted me one time. He was like, damn, that was sad. But when we did our interview, I think he was like, when I release it, you're gonna see them crying. And the reason why I thought maybe, maybe.
- [27:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm pretty sure they came.
- [27:26]
DJ Vlad
Maybe, maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. These dates kind of start to kind of melt a little bit.
- [27:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you ever find out why they all cried?
- [27:32]
DJ Vlad
Well, I think Q talked about it later. He said that he was drugged. He claimed dawn drugged her, which she's denied. And then he wok up in a room and everyone's laughing at him or something. And I. I don't know. She. She denied the whole thing. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
- [27:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, that they didn't give a. About Don or Cassie's testimony.
- [27:53]
DJ Envy
One of the jurors came out afterwards saying that they. That was dawn they thought was the least credible. If, well, he was an alternate juror. If he had to actually work go in, he would have thought she was least credible.
- [28:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. What did you think of G herbo's challenge to you in academics? He said that. I think it was during the Adam Freeland interview. He said, I challenged academics Vlad and others to donate money to kids in Chicago since. Since they made money off their pain. His exact quote was, I feel like all those kinds of guys, what they should do is give to a non profit organization in Chicago. I'm gonna challenge them to do that. Like academics Vlad, all you n words that made money off the culture and people dying in bloodshed and shit like that. Go nate, go donate 20 grand to 50 grand to a nonprofit organization that focus on just the betterment of kids. So it's a two part question really. How did you feel when he called you to N word?
- [28:44]
DJ Vlad
I mean look at the end of the day, the obvious response, you know, the knee jerk reactions like, well, what about you? You have, you say GDK in your lyrics. You know, that's Gangster Disciple killer and you have all these violent lyrics.
- [28:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
But G does a lot though.
- [28:57]
DJ Vlad
What's that?
- [28:58]
Charlamagne Tha God
G herbo does do a lot in the community.
- [29:00]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, I mean look at the end of the day, I think we, we could all do things that kind of help out. I think we all have a part in it. I think me, academics and G Herbo and a lot of the other Dr. Artists have a part because we all talk about it and we all publicize it and you could say that just putting it out there could create, you know, negative situations. So, you know, I've been talking to G herbo's people about doing an interview and actually talking about it face to face on it. Because I think that in that situation the interviewer, I forgot what his name is.
- [29:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
Adam Freeman.
- [29:28]
DJ Vlad
Freeman. It was funny. I just did academics. This guy, there's a picture of him in blackface. That interviewer. Yeah. Like. Like academics actually pulled out the photo. So this dude's a racist. You know what I'm saying? And I think he was purposely poking the bear to try to get a. You know, to try to get a reaction out of. Out of Herbo. But I've interviewed G Herbo since he was little. Herb. Right. We have multiple interviews. I think that we could all, instead of saying. And start pointing the finger at each other and saying, you're doing this, you're doing this. Why don't we all come together, maybe donate together, because we all have a part in this in our own way. You know, nobody's completely innocent. But ultimately, when you look at Vlad TV interviews, and I've interviewed a lot of these Chicago guys, when I bring up certain beef situations, it's always in the context of, like, can you. Can you guys work it out? Can it. A lot of these guys, I know both parties. Like, for example, you look at, like, the. The Young and Ace and Foolio situation. I've talked to both of them about possibly working it out. I can get both of y' all on the phone. They didn't want to do it. And ultimately, you know, Foolio got killed not because of the Young and Ace, but, you know, through other situations. But it's like, I always try to deescalate situations. I told FBG Duck he should move out of, you know, Chicago multiple times. And then the worst possible thing happens. Like, you see this a lot. But I've always tried to get peace with people. Just like I talked about the Terrence Gangster Williams a Little Diesel situation. I try to bring people together and get them to be cool with each other. Because a lot of times when people can get on the phone and have an actual real conversation, like, look, me and you have had problems.
- [30:59]
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
- [30:59]
DJ Vlad
How do we fix it?
- [31:00]
Charlamagne Tha God
Conversation.
- [31:02]
DJ Vlad
Me and you had little issues over the time, and we fixed it. Like, these are all grown adults. We can all fix it. But the problem is nobody talks to each other. People look at comments. People at social media amp em up. They have their friends around them that tell them, fuck them, we're not gonna do it, and so forth. And then it gets worse and worse and worse. And. And then people try to outdo themselves, you know, because the worst thing in my generation in terms of diss tracks was Tupac when he said, I'll fuck your Bitch. And everyone's like, oh, it can't get any worse than that. It got worse than that. Chief Keef. Chief Keef came around and suddenly it's like smoking my ops. And then foolio came around doing videos, you know, in front of people's grave sites, holding up pictures of the people that were killed. Some of them were like teenagers, you know. And I remember there's an interview with Boosie. In my next Boosie interview, I'm going to bring this up. I said, yo, someone's going to try to out ignorant each other. You know, someone's trying to out ignorant the game. I bet you someone's going to dig up one of their enemies.
- [32:04]
Charlamagne Tha God
But he already tried it.
- [32:05]
DJ Vlad
And after I said that, someone blew up a gravesite. Yeah, that's crazy.
- [32:10]
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, what's next? They try to do that and then somebody, remember, somebody tried to do. It was Pop Smoke's grave.
- [32:15]
DJ Vlad
Pops was great. Yeah. Got desecrated. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's.
- [32:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
I think it's easier to have conversations when you and a person had a previous relationship. Like, it was easy for me and you to have a conversation because we were actually friends and still friends, you know, I mean, but. And I felt like I did something up, you know, So I reached out so that I think it's different when you actually have a previous relationship with somebody.
- [32:34]
DJ Vlad
Yeah. But even people that don't really have previous relationships, like me and Joe Budden, ran into each other, I think in December. And you know, I saw him looking at me. We were at Brodorf Goodman. I looked over, I'm like, oh, shit, Joe Button, he's like looking at me. I walked up to him, we shook hands, we had a short conversation, and then that's it. I spoke about it publicly. He spoke about it publicly. The stories matched up and it was like, yo, like, we don't have to keep going at it, you know, and most times it's like people think that they have to in order to go viral and so forth. When most times it's like it doesn't really accomplish anything. Especially when you talk about media. I've always been very big about reaching out to media people early. Like, I was the first person to reach out to you when you were in South Carolina. That's right. Put you on a national.
- [33:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, way, way back. 2002 or three.
- [33:20]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, 2003. Somewhere around that time. So I've always. Academics, Adam, Sean, cotton trap, Loz, 1090, Jake, everybody. Like, I've reached out to all these people I've offered any sort of help that I could do. I brought them on my platform, I've done their platforms. And I feel like we could all be better off if we all work together as opposed to beefing. I think media people beefing with each other is stupid. I agree. Absolutely stupid.
- [33:47]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. See, I don't know that new generation. But to your point, it's like, yeah, you know, like, me and you, known each other since Columbia, South Carolina. You put on beef dvd.
- [33:54]
DJ Vlad
Yeah.
- [33:54]
Charlamagne Tha God
Academics. I knew AK when AK was doing college radio. I'm DJ Akademik's first interview ever. The first person he ever sat down and interviewed with me, Joe Budden, used to come to South Carolina, be hanging out at my apartment.
- [34:06]
DJ Vlad
Really?
- [34:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [34:07]
DJ Vlad
I didn't know that.
- [34:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
It's like, yeah, it is kind of strange. Yes.
- [34:10]
DJ Envy
But I think it's harder because, like, a lot of people who don't know you only get the perception of, like, what people say about you and what they see online. And like, because, like, there's been times where you've even come out after tweets and you've apologized for certain things with like the girl from Princeton and then the boss mandelo stuff. Yeah, like, but they don't. But people don't know you before that. They just know people say about you.
- [34:32]
Charlamagne Tha God
Some of this is Vlad fault though. Cause I don't know why Vlad decided to be a personality. Vlad could have just been. You could have just been asking the question. But then you started deciding to be a personality and coming at people.
- [34:42]
DJ Envy
That's kind of your tweets be like.
- [34:45]
DJ Vlad
Oh, he go viral. Yeah. Sometimes I'm surprised. I'm like 5 million impressions on this random ass tweet. Like, are you talking 10 million impressions? I am surprised.
- [34:55]
DJ Envy
That's what you be doing. You know how to work that out.
- [34:57]
DJ Vlad
I do, I do. But then again, I don't know what's going to take off. Like, it's like, wow. Like, this is all world star and shade room and people are having interviews about it and so forth. I didn't think, I don't know, like, I never thought that this would be what I was doing in my life. Like, I was just a hip hop fan. I bought every Source magazine, I bought every XXL magazine. I was just, you know, neurotic about loving hip hop. And I just thought that I was gonna be a fan for the rest of my life. And then at one point it turned into something else. So the fact that I'm here is always like a shock. So when people recognize me in public or when these tweets go viral, I'm always just flattered more than anything else.
- [35:37]
Vlad TV Guest
Speaking of, you know, people just communicating, get on the phone and talking. Have you and Marlon Wayans settled y' all differences? No. I know y' all haven't talked about.
- [35:45]
DJ Vlad
I texted him, and, you know, I apologize. I was going through a really rough patch. I was going through a really rough patch in my life, and he just happened to be interacting with me at that point. And the thing about that was, you know, he had. You know, he had asked me through. Through his representative. He wanted $40,000 plus 30% of all future revenues to do an interview. And I'm like, you don't charge anyone for that. Like, Marlon Wayne's been here multiple times. How much you guys pay him?
- [36:19]
DJ Envy
Breakfast Club doesn't pay, though. You do, but you have a reputation for paying people.
- [36:23]
DJ Vlad
Okay. All the interviews he's done, I know all the platforms. I personally know the people that he's done all the platforms with. Nobody has paid him for interviews or no one's paid him any sort of significant amount of money. But I felt like him hitting up for 40,000 was just sort of like, well, just say you don't fuck with me. Don't ask me for this crazy amount of money. But me and him had a conversation. He was very cool and very polite about it, and I was just being an asshole. Like, I said, I was going through a bunch of stuff, and. And I just decided to make it public. And that turned into a whole back and forth to a whole roasting session where he roasted me, I roasted him, and so forth. But, you know, when the dust settled, I'm like, he didn't deserve any of this.
- [36:59]
Charlamagne Tha God
That's very mature.
- [37:00]
DJ Vlad
Yeah. I say I was just being an asshole. Like, I was just being a jerk, because when it comes to interviews and you know this, like, I'm really. I really just, like, I take it too personally sometimes because this is my whole life, and this is my legacy. Like, this is what I do. So when there's someone who I respect and I feel like I have a platform, I have a big platform that if you do Vlad tv, you're not doing me a favor. Like, this is going to get out there. This is going to cause you to get more business, more shows. Like, people's entire careers were built off of doing Vlad TV interviews.
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- [38:27]
DJ Vlad
Always been so locked in with comedians from Aries to TK to TK Kirkland, who constantly says that he's been helped out by doing Vlad TV interviews to even like the newer guys like, like Will Mills and stuff like that. Like, I've always reached out because I've been a comedy fan. So I just felt like you just hit me up for this type of money. But, you know, at the end of the day, it was just a business conversation. It should have been kept private and I was being a jerk about it. So I personally apologized in a text message. He didn't respond.
- [38:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, tomorrow.
- [38:56]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, yeah, we had each other's numbers. So, you know, he didn't respond. And you know, he spoke about him and you guys, you know, had had him on your show and so forth. And I think he's still a little salty about it. And that's, that's his right. I understand. I don't expect my apology to ultimately hit home every time, but he knows what it is. So if we run into each other, we'll probably have an in person conversation.
- [39:14]
DJ Envy
If, if he wanted to come down, the door still open for him?
- [39:16]
DJ Vlad
Absolutely not. For 40,000, I would say.
- [39:18]
DJ Envy
What would you pay him?
- [39:20]
DJ Vlad
Maybe like 10. Maybe like 10.
- [39:23]
Charlamagne Tha God
I mean, his number is his number. Marlon Wayne is a big star.
- [39:25]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, I understand your number is your number to a certain degree, but at the end of the day, there's also the market. Right. So for example, you know, you look at like a stand up. You look like Aries Spears. Me and him talked about this, right? Aries Spears does clubs. He's always booked in clubs. Now he could tell his Agent. From here on in, I'm only doing stadiums. If it's not a stadium, don't call me. You know what's going to happen.
- [39:50]
Vlad TV Guest
No calls.
- [39:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
No calls.
- [39:51]
DJ Vlad
He's not going to have any calls. So you could say that your number is this, but the market and the views don't support that. And what I said was like, when he did, you know the Breakfast Club last time it got less than a million views.
- [40:01]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I think he got over a million on Breakfast. How much you got on? You know, look what it was I thought he posted.
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Lauren LaRosa
It was like, see, I did it.
- [40:06]
DJ Vlad
No, no, that was Shannon Sharp.
- [40:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
He comes a lot, though.
- [40:09]
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, he did.
- [40:09]
DJ Vlad
Look up, look up the last Breakfast Club interview with Marlon Ways. Look at the numbers.
- [40:13]
Charlamagne Tha God
Let's see. I think he's been here since the.
- [40:16]
Lauren LaRosa
He comes all the time.
- [40:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
A year ago he got an interview that did 400,000 on Breakfast Club.
- [40:21]
DJ Vlad
400,000 is about $5,000.
- [40:23]
DJ Envy
But at the.
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DJ Vlad
Okay, no, no, no, I know YouTube. 400,000 views is about $5,000. And you guys are a big platform where we have a similar size overall. You guys do radio, but on YouTube we have a similar size.
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Charlamagne Tha God
But then he was here a year ago. Well, that was a year ago. The one that got 400. He was here nine months ago and he got 800.
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Lauren LaRosa
800.
- [40:43]
DJ Vlad
Okay, so that's $10,000.
- [40:44]
DJ Envy
But around the time. Around the time.
- [40:46]
DJ Vlad
Where's the $40,000 come in? You see what I'm saying?
- [40:49]
DJ Envy
He did Shannon shop right after y' all things.
- [40:51]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, 9.8 million.
- [40:52]
DJ Envy
And that went crazy.
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DJ Vlad
Those numbers look a little, little sketchy. No, every other platform does this number and suddenly it's this number. Those numbers look a little sketchy.
- [41:06]
Charlamagne Tha God
I mean, 10 months ago. Club Shay is a big part of the algorithm. You know how that works too on YouTube.
- [41:12]
DJ Vlad
I'm just saying when you, you know, every time you do a platform, you get this and suddenly you're like ten times that. I. I don't know.
- [41:20]
Vlad TV Guest
And then it also depends on what you're talking about too. You know what I mean?
- [41:23]
DJ Vlad
Yeah. And it was the follow up interview after our beef and so forth. But I don't think that was even addressed in the interview.
- [41:28]
Charlamagne Tha God
So I don't know if it was.
- [41:30]
DJ Vlad
No, it wasn't.
- [41:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
Can we talk about that for a second? Because you've been on YouTube for a long time. Yeah, YouTube does favor new, right?
- [41:37]
DJ Vlad
Well, brand new clips.
- [41:38]
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, just. I mean, yeah, brand new.
- [41:40]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, new. New is favored. Absolutely.
- [41:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
But even new platforms, I think. No you don't think so?
- [41:44]
DJ Envy
No, it's target.
- [41:45]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, talk to me.
- [41:47]
DJ Vlad
No, I mean, look, YouTube does a great job that if you have a strong video, that it'll get it out there. But I mean, if you don't have the. The subscribers and you don't have the following and it's not being, like, viewed and viewed and viewed, like, Tick Tock is pretty good at that. Like, you could have a. A Tick Tock page with thousand followers and suddenly get like 5 million views. But YouTube is not like that.
- [42:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
YouTube is shadow. Banned us, blacklisted us.
- [42:10]
DJ Vlad
Really?
- [42:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
What? They sent us emails that says, like, this content doesn't necessarily violate our terms and agreement. We just deem it inappropriate.
- [42:18]
DJ Vlad
Like, what?
- [42:21]
Charlamagne Tha God
And you know when it started? It started after January 6, when I gave Donkey of the Day to who I called Vanilla isis, the people who stormed the Capitol. That's when they first sent us. I'm like, how is this inappropriate? Yeah, for me to get him donkey today. And it's been kind of like. I mean, but, you know. Yeah, it varies.
- [42:38]
DJ Vlad
Shout out to Marlon Wayans, man. Like, he's a legend, what he does. And I apologize publicly. I know that he didn't accept the apology, but at the end of the day, I was wrong for putting personal business out in the public, and that's what I apologize for. But I still will say $40,000 was just a number that wasn't reasonable. So was it?
- [42:56]
Vlad TV Guest
I would think it would be the 30% of revenue that comes from the content you tripped over to 40,000.
- [43:01]
DJ Vlad
Well, the 30% wasn't reasonable either, you know. Now if it was nothing in 30%, then that would have been an interesting conversation. But 40,000 plus 30%, I mean, we would have to get like 30 million views to, like, break even. Like, it's really like a huge amount. That didn't really make sense based on his overall numbers. Now, if it was Cat Williams, it'd be a different conversation.
- [43:25]
Lauren LaRosa
What was your biggest interview that got you the most revenue?
- [43:30]
DJ Vlad
The interview with Roger Bonds went crazy.
- [43:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, wow.
- [43:35]
DJ Vlad
Yeah. So Roger Bonds was Diddy's head of security for, like, 10 years, and he firsthand saw the abuse because between Diddy and Cassie, as well as all the other crazy stuff that was happening, and we did the interview right before Diddy was arrested, so it was doing okay. But then when he was arrested, suddenly it went. It went crazy and just kept going crazy for like a couple of months.
- [43:56]
Lauren LaRosa
How much did it do, views wise?
- [43:59]
DJ Vlad
Oh, I mean, the full interview did like maybe 2. 23 million views. But then all the clips did a lot and so forth. So it did some big numbers and I had them back since then.
- [44:08]
Lauren LaRosa
Why don't you think he wasn't on the stand?
- [44:09]
DJ Vlad
Because he wasn't called. They contacted him, they contacted his lawyer, but they ultimately didn't bring him on, which surprised me a little bit. But I don't know, I thought the feds fumbled that whole case, period. So it doesn't totally surprise me.
- [44:22]
Charlamagne Tha God
I feel like you get more views for things outside of hip hop sometimes.
- [44:26]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, sometimes. But, you know, Vlad TV has never been the darling of the music industry. If you think about it, like, we don't really work with any of the labels anymore. If we work with artists, it's usually directly from the artists, like all the pr, you know, sections of the labels, like Don't Rock With Me. So we had to figure out how to do it. We had to go outside, you know, outside the box. We had to start bringing in people that other people really weren't, you know, rocking with and they were ignoring. So this is where some of the guests that became regular guests, like Lord Jamar was not like a hot hip hop artist at the time that I brought him on. And he became a big personality because we kept putting him on. I mean, brand New being hadn't put out, you know, music in quite a while. But, you know, I always try to just sit there and kind of think outside the box. Like, I'll be watching Netflix. I'll be like, oh, okay, you know, the man with a thousand kids. That sounds like an interesting interview. Let's fly him in from Amsterdam and have a conversation with him. It'll be like that.
- [45:24]
Charlamagne Tha God
That's always been my mentality. We've talked about this a million times. Like, I feel like the whole hip hop media thing, it's a glass ceiling. Right, because you're only going to interview Jay Z once, if at all.
- [45:34]
DJ Vlad
If at all. Yeah, I've never interviewed.
- [45:35]
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I mean? Like, you're not. You're only gonna get these interviews, like, once. So it's just like, why can't hip hop personalities talk to, you know, people outside of hip hop?
- [45:45]
DJ Vlad
Yeah.
- [45:45]
Charlamagne Tha God
And why do you get penalized for that as a hip hop media journalist, whatever that means.
- [45:49]
DJ Vlad
I mean, I don't consider myself a strictly hip hop media personality. Like, I've always been outside the box, so I've never looked at it that way. And like I said, a lot of it is because I had to do it. Now, look, if I was on the list for every promo run for every big artist. I'd probably be focusing more on just hip hop and music, but I don't get that luxury.
- [46:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, you wouldn't, because there's still not a lot of those. How many of those have we seen this year?
- [46:11]
Lauren LaRosa
Not too many.
- [46:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
Push the clips. Who else? Like, seriously, think about it. Like, these artists don't be doing those runs like that. No more.
- [46:17]
Vlad TV Guest
Kamala would have been a big interview for you.
- [46:19]
DJ Vlad
Why?
- [46:19]
Vlad TV Guest
Did they ever tell you? Kamala Harris.
- [46:21]
Lauren LaRosa
Kamal Harris.
- [46:22]
Vlad TV Guest
Kamala.
- [46:22]
DJ Vlad
Kamala. We reached out. We were having conversations.
- [46:25]
Vlad TV Guest
They have explained to you why they passed?
- [46:27]
DJ Vlad
No, no, but she fumbled a lot of stuff during her, you know, during her campaign. And I've publicly said how it was a huge mistake for her not to do Joe Rogan. I think that she had a. She had more of a chance of winning if she had done Joe Rogan, because Joe Rogan did Trump and did Elon Musk.
- [46:46]
Charlamagne Tha God
J.D. vance.
- [46:47]
DJ Vlad
J.D. vance. Exactly. Both of them came in, sat with him for hours, whereas Kamala said, you have to come to me and you have a limited amount of time. And I just thought that was a mistake. And I think if I had done a Kamala interview, we had, like, multiple hours that could ask whatever we want. It would have been like her biggest interview in probably in her life, honestly, because I really would have really gone in and so forth, and I voted for Kamala. I have pictures of me voting for Kamala.
- [47:17]
Vlad TV Guest
So what do you think our biggest fumble was?
- [47:22]
DJ Vlad
I think that at the end of the day, we didn't really know who she was.
- [47:26]
Charlamagne Tha God
I agree.
- [47:27]
DJ Vlad
Love him or hate him, Trump was transparent. He came in and did all these podcasts, you know, and he did all these talks for multiple hours, and he got to know who he really was as a person. I think Kamala to this day is still an enigma, and I think that the people just didn't connect. And look, at the end of the.
- [47:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
Day, she announced her book today, too.
- [47:50]
DJ Vlad
Oh, did she?
- [47:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, she dropped a book called 107 Days for Pre order.
- [47:53]
DJ Vlad
Okay, that's cool. Like, I voted for. I like Kamala, but it was just one of those things where people who supported Trump were going to come out, they're going to bring their friends, they're going to tell everyone they're going to campaign and so forth. People when it came to Kamala were a little bit. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. And when you saw the final numbers, the last time you saw a blowout like that, Was, I think, Obama's first election.
- [48:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
It wasn't a blowout, though.
- [48:21]
DJ Vlad
It was a blowout.
- [48:22]
Charlamagne Tha God
She lost all the swing states. But when you look at the actual raw numbers.
- [48:26]
DJ Vlad
But actual, like, look at all the votes of Trump versus Comrade.
- [48:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
Look at the actual raw numbers. It wasn't a blowout at all. Like, it was. Like, it was. Not even. Not even. I don't tell you right now, it wasn't a blowout. She did lose all the swing states.
- [48:37]
Lauren LaRosa
I thought it was a couple million.
- [48:39]
Charlamagne Tha God
Hold on. I'm tell you right now.
- [48:40]
DJ Vlad
Look at the last time you've seen that type of gap in a presidential election. It was Obama. I remember. I looked it up. So you're talking about what, 15 years.
- [48:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm gonna tell you right now.
- [48:52]
DJ Vlad
And she lost a lot of states.
- [48:54]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. Kamala had 75 point. I mean, 70. A little bit over 75 million votes. And Trump had a little bit over 77 million votes.
- [49:03]
Lauren LaRosa
A couple million.
- [49:04]
DJ Vlad
Okay.
- [49:06]
Charlamagne Tha God
Matter of fact, the percentage of the popular vote Kamala was 48.3. Trump was 49.8. So.
- [49:11]
DJ Vlad
Okay, you're right. I think what I'm talking about is the actual. When you look at. What do you call. With the states, but when you count the. What do you call it? The votes. Electoral votes. We took the electoral college votes. That's what I'm talking about.
- [49:23]
Charlamagne Tha God
It was 226 to 312.
- [49:26]
DJ Vlad
That's a blowout. 226 versus 312. That's what I'm talking about. Last time that happened was Obama's first election. 226 versus 312. That's huge.
- [49:38]
Charlamagne Tha God
It's pretty. Okay.
- [49:38]
DJ Vlad
It's pretty big. It's pretty big. It's pretty big.
- [49:41]
Lauren LaRosa
It was a letdown.
- [49:42]
DJ Vlad
Yeah. What?
- [49:42]
Charlamagne Tha God
What.
- [49:42]
Lauren LaRosa
Who do you want to talk to? Who do you want to sit down with that you haven't yet? That's been in the works. Maybe it could happen. Can't happen. Who is that one person that you said, I would love to sit down and talk to them. We're trying to make it happen.
- [49:54]
DJ Vlad
I mean, this can't happen anymore. But me and O.J. simpson were in talks and you never talked to O.J. never talked to O.J. we were about to do it. I was gonna pay him a hundred thousand. Right. And you know, he had to go to, like, another guy because he had lawsuit that he wasn't paying back.
- [50:09]
Vlad TV Guest
Marlon is going to be pissed when he.
- [50:15]
DJ Vlad
So me and O.J. simpson were supposed to do an interview. They just said, don't get too deep into the blood evidence and stuff like that. And I said, that's cool, you know, I'll touch on the trial, but I don't even think.
- [50:24]
Lauren LaRosa
Well, I don't know why it mattered at this point, but go ahead.
- [50:26]
DJ Vlad
Right? So it was all set up and it was like, okay, he wants cash. So I talked to my accountant. Like, okay, we could do cash. They just have to fill out a W9 and do an invoice, whatever else.
- [50:36]
Lauren LaRosa
But you couldn't give it to him directly.
- [50:37]
DJ Vlad
I had to give him to his man, right? I said, okay, cool, we'll do cash. He's like, okay, I need the full amount before he gets out the car. And I'm like, yo, he owes like $10 million. He's never paid. Like he's, he's a crook, always bringing.
- [50:52]
Vlad TV Guest
Up somebody personal like some other when he got get somebody some money.
- [50:57]
DJ Vlad
If you have a reputation of not paying people and you want all your money up front. And I even said, look, I'll give them 50,000 up front and 50,000 interview. No, they would not budge. They would not budge. So business wise. Because look, my fear was like, we get 15 minutes into the interview, I asked him a question he doesn't like and he walks out. What am I going to do?
- [51:18]
Charlamagne Tha God
That's great.
- [51:19]
DJ Vlad
I'm not going to shoot him. Like, you know, I'm not going to tackle him. Like, it's like, you know, that's great for views you get OJ, it's not 100,000 great reviews. Like, it's a viral moment and everyone will take that clip and run with it. People think like, viral does not always mean money on the back end, but.
- [51:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
Depending on the question you ask him, that causes him to walk out. O.J. simpson, that's international news. Black.
- [51:39]
DJ Vlad
Okay, possibly, but I can't. But that's not what I'm here to do. I'm not here to have a viral 10 seconds. I'm here to actually get OJ's first real sit down interview. Talking about his whole life and ultimately he passed away. So I never got it. You know, Would it have probably gone well? Probably. But as a small business, I can't take $100,000 risks. I mean, I could, but it's not good business sense to do that. I'm a CEO, I have a dozen employees, I have office space. I have people who depend on me to pay their rent. So I can't just sit there and gamble a hundred thousand with someone who doesn't want to work with me in.
- [52:18]
DJ Envy
Conversation, like how close to his passing?
- [52:22]
DJ Vlad
Maybe like a year. Yeah.
- [52:24]
Lauren LaRosa
And you think O.J. did it?
- [52:25]
DJ Vlad
Yeah.
- [52:25]
Lauren LaRosa
Were you gonna ask him about did he do it? Was that gonna be one of the things?
- [52:28]
DJ Vlad
I mean, I would have danced around it somewhat.
- [52:30]
DJ Envy
He wrote a book. It's Fair game.
- [52:31]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, I did it. Yeah. If I did it.
- [52:33]
Lauren LaRosa
If I did it.
- [52:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
I think.
- [52:35]
DJ Vlad
I think he did. Cause, I mean, I even interviewed Kato, Caitlin, you know, who was there when it all happened. And he was telling me how, like, you know, after it happened and everyone's in the house and Kato's in the house. And he was like, yeah, Kato was with me the whole time. He knows that. Kato's like, I was not with you. We went to McDonald's and came back and then you disappeared for a while. Like, damn. You know, he's like, I gotta get the hell up out of here.
- [52:56]
Charlamagne Tha God
I do wish, you know, did you. And I'm glad. That's why I glad. I'm glad you started that series where you're talking to people about their business and how they make money off YouTube. Because like the stuff that you just said even a little while ago, like, just that business aspect of it, it's not worth a hundred thousand. I want to hear more of that because I think that these kids are delusional as to what people are making online.
- [53:14]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, well, well, okay. So. So if you go to the Vlad TV YouTube channel, YouTube.com vladtv we have two tiers of membership. So we have the regular tier. So for $5 you can get the full interview on the first day. But then there's $100 tier, which is the Vlad TV YouTube masterclass, where I actually have exclusive interviews where it talks about, you know, with people like academics and 1090 Jake and people like that that actually have shown how They've built their YouTube businesses to make hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars off their channels. As well as I have lessons where I break down exactly what I did. I actually show my studio, I show the equipment, I show the money that's made and so forth. Actually showing people how to build up YouTube channels. And, you know, it's been great. A lot of people have joined up. You know, we do live sessions. And I think it's really dope to kind of give back, to show people, because so many people have made careers. Like I said, Terrence Gangster Williams have made careers off of YouTube channels to the point where they can just work at home. You know, for example, like Trenches News, you know, that clip is coming out. I Think today, where he makes over 100,000 a year. He doesn't even show his face, wears a mask the whole time. And he does these stories about Chicago in his bedroom. And he can support himself and his family. He's married. I think he has kids to just do these types of YouTube channels and they don't have to get like a 9 to 5 job. They work for themselves. They decide when they want to work. They create their own content. A lot of these guys edited themselves also. So, yeah, glad to.
- [54:40]
DJ Envy
YouTube masterclass with the people that you're talking about. Right. That's making money online and like, they're becoming the outlets. The complex hip hop media list just dropped.
- [54:48]
DJ Vlad
Yeah.
- [54:48]
DJ Envy
And it always caused a controversy, but this year, I think people were particularly arguing most about, like, you got Kai Sadat on the list and then Blackboy Max. You're on the list, academics on the list. Is there people that you think should not be on the list or should have been on that list because you, you're helping people come up in this game that are being placed there?
- [55:06]
DJ Vlad
I think the list is relatively accurate. You were five, I was six. I'm always just flattered to be on these lists. I remember I was scrolling up from 30 and I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna be on this year. That's cool. You know, and then I was like, six. I'm like, okay, that's cool. I got. That was a little hotter last year than this year, but they want to give it to me. I'll take that. I think everyone, like the Kai Sonatas, the world, they have pushed the envelope to create something new, the streaming platform. I think Blackboy Max is like number four or something more on that list. Like these guys, you know, and girls have come, come and created something that really has not been around before. And you can't deny what Kai Sanat has done. I mean, he's had Nicki Minaj and all these other, you know, Kevin Harts and all these other major celebrities on. On his stream, and they've all looked good. Being on that street, Sexy, Red, Liz.
- [55:55]
Vlad TV Guest
All of that, without being messy. This is all just great, positive content.
- [56:01]
DJ Vlad
That's true. Look, I've never. I've never really hated. Unless you've hated on me first. I've always been like, yo, that's dope. And I've had people like Neon, you know, on my platform. I admire what they've done. Like when Neon said he spends 200,000amonth just to pay people to clip his content, you know, and that's on the Vlad TV YouTube masterclass. I'm like, huh, that's. That's interesting. That's impressive, you know, to invest that type of money back into your own business, especially when you're a relatively young person, I think is amazing. And you guys have had one show that was a whole.
- [56:34]
DJ Envy
How you felt about the interview?
- [56:36]
DJ Vlad
I didn't really watch it, to be honest. But I guess you brought up some racist comments that he had done in the past.
- [56:41]
Vlad TV Guest
Everything.
- [56:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't even know about the racist comments.
- [56:43]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, I didn't know about that either.
- [56:45]
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't know.
- [56:47]
DJ Envy
How you on the Internet and you don't know.
- [56:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
I did like the stuff Jeff posted later. I didn't know about all that. No, I didn't know that I knew about the ties and not stuff, but I found that out like 30 minutes before the interview.
- [56:56]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, I don't follow the Neons of the world.
- [57:00]
Charlamagne Tha God
Same.
- [57:01]
DJ Vlad
I'm 52.
- [57:02]
DJ Envy
But you don't. I mean, I didn't. So I don't follow Neon either. But when he was coming here, the minute I typed his name and Tik Tok, those were the first things that came up.
- [57:09]
DJ Vlad
Yeah.
- [57:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
Why you ain't playing while he was here?
- [57:11]
DJ Envy
I did.
- [57:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
You played one.
- [57:12]
DJ Envy
I played. We didn't. I mean, we moved on after that. I had. We had a whole conversation before Nia came in here, didn't we? I was. You weren't here.
- [57:20]
Lauren LaRosa
Not about all the stuff that she played the other day.
- [57:22]
DJ Vlad
I had.
- [57:22]
DJ Envy
We had a full conversation. Like, I mean, you knew about all.
- [57:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
That stuff before that interview. You just knew about the.
- [57:28]
Vlad TV Guest
All of the stuff. But when I reached out, he was relatively racist. Cuz he was saying a bunch of.
- [57:33]
Lauren LaRosa
So why say something I didn't know about?
- [57:34]
DJ Envy
All we were here saying she played a video.
- [57:37]
Vlad TV Guest
The video that she.
- [57:40]
Lauren LaRosa
Not the Indian one, the black one. Robin said the black one.
- [57:43]
Charlamagne Tha God
But it was way worse.
- [57:46]
DJ Vlad
I can assure you that if that was. Look, I don't do my own research sometimes. Like, you know, my assistant Evan does a lot of the research for me, so sometimes we miss certain things. I could assure you that if I had known about that, it would have been brought up in the interview because I talked about him faking his death and stuff like that. I assure you that if it was in my notes, I would have included it. I was not softballing Neon on any level, but certain things will just kind of slip past me after the fact. It'd be like, oh, why don't you ask about that? It's like, oh, yeah, you're right.
- [58:13]
Lauren LaRosa
I should say that sometimes I can.
- [58:16]
DJ Vlad
Tell you that was just a gap that we had. And I would have brought it up, but in this case, I didn't bring it up. But I brought up a lot of other controversial stuff in that interview.
- [58:24]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, same man.
- [58:25]
DJ Vlad
Yeah.
- [58:26]
DJ Envy
Do you ever get tired of people telling you that you should be more of, like, a fan of the culture and not an actual commentator because you're not black?
- [58:33]
DJ Vlad
No.
- [58:33]
DJ Envy
When the Princeton thing happened with the lady we talked about earlier that worked there, why did you decide to apologize in that situation?
- [58:41]
DJ Vlad
Well, because a person that was very close to me had a conversation about it. They want to be left out of the conversations. I'm not gonna say who it is, but someone that everyone here knows, and they sort of explained to me that, look, this is just an online back and forth. It shouldn't affect people's jobs. So the fact that I tagged Princeton, when I responded to her, I'm like, yeah, that was fucked up, you know, the other day, though. But you guys addressed it as well. I still feel that someone who works for an Ivy League, you know, university like Princeton, because I went to UC Berkeley myself, which is kind of like an Ivy League, you know, in its own right, like, people of that caliber should be held to a higher standard. So when someone says, you know, and if you look at that whole situation, all I said was the mix quality of Kendrick's Not Like Us takes away from the song a little bit. His actual engineer later on came forward and said, yeah, Kendrick called me and said, put this out in 30 minutes. And I had to just throw. Throw a rough mix together and throw it out. The final mix was actually improved. So all I said was, I didn't say the song was whack. I didn't say it was important, it wasn't important, and so forth. I said the mix quality slightly takes away from it. And her response was, you are white. This is black people's business.
- [59:58]
DJ Envy
A black folk affair.
- [59:59]
DJ Vlad
Black folk affair. And I'm like, this is a Princeton professor saying, this. This is crazy.
- [60:05]
Charlamagne Tha God
I tell you what's crazy. If you walk into some of these studios, you'd be surprised. Most of these mixers that are mixing these records are white.
- [60:10]
DJ Vlad
Are white. And look, I didn't realize, right. I also didn't realize at the time, you know, based on her name, that this is Rodney Jerkins niece. I know Rodney Jerkins. I interviewed him at his home in Hidden Hills. We were maintaining contact. So the first thing that happened, I think Maybe a day later, you know, when I apologized and said, listen, I was just trolling. I never called Princeton. I never tried to get her to lose her job. I was just. I thought she was trolling me with that comment. So I'm like, trolling her back, right? I never did anything to that regard. And last I checked, she's still at Princeton. Right? So the first thing. Rodney. You know, Rodney hit me. He's like, hey, man, thank you for not getting my niece fired. I'm like, I was never going to get her fired. So we got on the phone, and then the first thing I did was like, yo, Rodney, like, you're. You're a mega producer. Like, my comment about the mix quality is like, let me stop you. He goes, you're absolutely right. The mix quality was bad. So I was a little bit insulted. I'm like, here's a person who is a professor, I think, in literature or something like something like that, telling me a dj, someone who listens to audio every single day. Because I put out video and audio every day. I got my headphones on listening to audio. I know what I'm talking about when I say the audio quality is a little bit off. And this person who doesn't know anything about audio tells me to shut the hell up because I'm white.
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DJ Envy
That's so funny. Here.
- [61:32]
DJ Vlad
I got kind of insulted. I got kind of insulted. I'm sorry. I thought that was ridiculous. I thought that was ridiculous.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, my God.
- [61:41]
DJ Vlad
You know. And listen, I know Kendrick. We've had conversations together. Like, I know tde. Like, I know what I'm talking about. I was like, this is crazy coming from someone that's got Princeton in their profile. But at the end of the day, I didn't want her to lose her job. So let me just apologize for that part of what I said. And she did lose her job.
- [62:00]
Charlamagne Tha God
That wasn't a societal issue, though. It was no reason to bring race into that.
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DJ Vlad
Yeah. No, it's a song.
- [62:05]
Charlamagne Tha God
Do you.
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Vlad TV Guest
I mean, it's called they Not Like Us.
- [62:07]
DJ Vlad
Right.
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Vlad TV Guest
So, yeah.
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DJ Vlad
I mean, look, I just want to say this. Like, you see Kendrick doing his, like, European tour.
- [62:14]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [62:15]
DJ Vlad
Just a sea of white people. A sea of white people.
- [62:19]
Charlamagne Tha God
Believe it in the US Is a sea.
- [62:21]
DJ Vlad
Exactly. A sea of white people. So they can't comment on it after.
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Vlad TV Guest
They bought their tickets singing lyrics word for word.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I just thought that was weird for her to bring up race when you were talking about sound quality. That's because people don't know your background.
- [62:35]
DJ Vlad
Right. And I appreciate It.
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Charlamagne Tha God
They don't know you was a producer.
- [62:38]
DJ Vlad
Exactly.
- [62:38]
DJ Envy
I think, you know, she knew.
- [62:39]
DJ Vlad
And I appreciate. I just want to say this. I appreciate you guys for having my back on that. Like, you guys commented, common sense. I really appreciate that.
- [62:45]
Lauren LaRosa
That's just honest.
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DJ Envy
I was gonna say, even if she knew your background, I think it goes to the thing we were talking about earlier. Like, people just feeling like you shouldn't be here just because of what they perceive you as, because of other stuff.
- [62:54]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, well, I'm here, so it is what it is. I'm here, and I'm not going anywhere.
- [62:59]
Charlamagne Tha God
Do the culture vulture claims even bother you?
- [63:00]
DJ Vlad
No.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [63:01]
DJ Vlad
No.
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Charlamagne Tha God
What do you think about that? Do you ever look at some white people and say, okay, well, that is a culture vulture. But I'm not that.
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DJ Vlad
Well, the dude with the black face, you know, the guy. The guy that did the G herbo, the Freeman guy. I mean, yeah, if you got blackface, you're a culture vulture. You know, you're interviewing black people, but then you're doing blackface, you know, behind the scenes. So that's disgusting.
- [63:18]
Charlamagne Tha God
I did want to ask you what. Before you go, what did you think about. And I listen, listed. Just list. But what did you think about Adam22, not being in there at all?
- [63:26]
DJ Vlad
He should be on there. Yeah, absolutely. Like, for example, like, I would take Rory Mahl off that list and put Adam on that list. Yeah. Because if you look at viral moments and so forth, like, I mean, God, like, remember 4th of July, 4 extra getting his hand blown off. How do we Even know about 4 extra? Cause of no Jumper? That's the only reason we know about him. Like, he's had so many viral moments.
- [63:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
But who was 4Extra?
- [63:51]
DJ Envy
It's the rapper. You didn't see the video of the guy that.
- [63:56]
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm saying, what did they have to do with hip hop?
- [63:57]
DJ Vlad
Well, he's a. No, but he's a. He's a personality that was on no Jumper. And then he lit a firework and blew off his hand. And I heard it blew off half a guy's face also. It's crazy.
- [64:08]
Lauren LaRosa
And, you know, most of the big. The big you and rolling 60. All that.
- [64:11]
DJ Vlad
All that was from no Jumper?
- [64:13]
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, all on no Jumper.
- [64:14]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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DJ Vlad
It was all like, yeah, Brick baby was. It was a regular on no Jumper. He was also, you know, doing my show as well. Like, no Jumper definitely affects the culture. So to leave them totally off the list. But you put Rory Ma on the list just doesn't make a lot of sense.
- [64:26]
Charlamagne Tha God
I Think complex has to do a better job. And maybe all of us gotta do a better job of defining, I guess, what is culture and what is determined to be what is considered hip hop media. Cause somebody getting a hand blown off from a firecracker don't seem like hip hop media to me. And even the big U stuff and all of that, that's not hip hop.
- [64:42]
Lauren LaRosa
Well, some of them guys are rappers, though.
- [64:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, okay.
- [64:45]
DJ Vlad
Yeah. I mean, 4Extra has a song. He did a song with Kevin Gates.
- [64:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
I guess to me, when I look at it, and I'm just. I'm not even putting myself in the comments. I look at, like, Gina views.
- [64:52]
DJ Envy
You talking about real impact.
- [64:53]
Charlamagne Tha God
No shade to no joke, no Rob Markman. I ain't talking. No, I'm not saying real impact. Like, between two definitely has impact. I'm talking about, like, just people who actually comment on hip hop as we know it. The music, the culture. Rob Markman. Gina views Wayne.
- [65:06]
DJ Envy
Oh, right.
- [65:07]
DJ Vlad
But Rob Markman, like, when is the last time something he's done has gone really viral and has really affected the culture? Like, that I haven't really seen.
- [65:14]
Charlamagne Tha God
But he's consistent with his content.
- [65:15]
DJ Vlad
I know you could be consistent, but if you don't make an impact, you shouldn't be on that list. There's people that are really good at what they do, but if you don't get it out to the masses, if it's not really picked up and it's not moving the needle and you can't.
- [65:27]
DJ Envy
Be on that list, the definition then has to be impact. Because when I said that, because I know no jumper is like a part of the conversation, what I meant is, like, you're talking about people who like doing, like, the rap list and the.
- [65:37]
Charlamagne Tha God
All that talk music. Max is a perfect person to be on there because every time I see him, yeah, he's rapping, he's doing music, he's interviewing artists. Like, that's what I'm talking about.
- [65:47]
Lauren LaRosa
But then they also mentioned coverage on the Diddy case.
- [65:49]
DJ Vlad
Right?
- [65:49]
Lauren LaRosa
It was somebody that did coverage on the Diddy case. But Lauren should have been on that list, hands down. There's nobody that covered more about that case, that did more interviews, that had stations and networks calling her about that.
- [66:00]
Vlad TV Guest
She was in day 26. Yeah, but no, that girl did his security team. But Laura was in a court every day. I'm talking about from the time they started to the time they ended. She was breaking it down. She was still keeping up and doing this. And, man, crackheads was walking up on A Vlad, man. It was like. It was a lot going on, so she should have been on there.
- [66:29]
DJ Vlad
Yeah. I mean, look, like, it's all. It's all a journey, you know? Like, some of the stuff that you do will not always be recognized in the short term and in the long term, if you stay consistent. Like, look, this is now 17 years of just YouTube. Right? Before that, there was a few years of DVDs.
- [66:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
Only been 17.
- [66:45]
DJ Vlad
Yeah. 2008. 2008. That's when I launched my channel to 2025. That's 17 years plus. I was doing. I was doing DVDs, which you were. You know, I was talking to you during that time.
- [66:57]
DJ Envy
YouTube came in 2006.
- [66:59]
DJ Vlad
What's that?
- [66:59]
DJ Envy
When did YouTube, like, start?
- [67:01]
DJ Vlad
YouTube started a little bit earlier, but in 2008, that's when they introduced the partner program, which actually turned into a real business. So, yeah, I had videos on YouTube before then, but there was just little promo videos, trailers or whatever else. But in 2008, when you could actually start making money with YouTube, that's when I just saw the vision. I stopped DJing. I stopped doing DVDs, I stopped hustling on the side. It was like, okay, let me just do this period. And put all my energy into it, because this is about to be the biggest video platform on earth. And I was right.
- [67:28]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
- [67:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
Trying to figure out when we first started doing interviews. It had to be like, 08.
- [67:33]
DJ Vlad
Right about that time.
- [67:34]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
- [67:36]
DJ Vlad
08. 09. Yeah. We were already friends during that time.
- [67:39]
DJ Envy
Y' all were a little bit later.
- [67:40]
Charlamagne Tha God
Now, because I did. I got fired from Philly and went. When I got five, I went to Vlad.
- [67:46]
DJ Vlad
Yeah, exactly.
- [67:47]
DJ Envy
Which is crazy, Vlad, because when I left my job, we talked. Or somebody from your team, where I thought were you. We talked a bit about me potentially coming over. You'd be having, like, an eye early for things.
- [67:55]
DJ Vlad
I tried to.
- [67:56]
Vlad TV Guest
Where are you from?
- [67:57]
DJ Vlad
Well, originally, I was born in Ukraine, in Kiev. It was part of the USSR at the time. Grew up in Massachusetts for a couple years, but I really spent most of my time in the Bay Area. So I grew up in San Mateo. Then I went to school in UC Berkeley. So I was in Berkeley and Oakland for about 10 years. Moved to New York, moved to LA, you know.
- [68:15]
Vlad TV Guest
Gotcha.
- [68:15]
DJ Vlad
Yeah.
- [68:16]
Lauren LaRosa
Well, we appreciate you for joining us, bro.
- [68:17]
DJ Vlad
Thank you for having me.
- [68:18]
Charlamagne Tha God
How do we know you're not aspired from the Ukraine?
- [68:23]
DJ Vlad
Charlamagne need to come back to Vlad tv, man. I hit him up the other day. I'm like, yo, it's been three years since he did Vlad tv because I did academics a couple nights ago. He's like, the Charlotte may not rock with you. I'm like, no, we talking, but we just haven't scheduled anything. And that's how I hit him up.
- [68:36]
Charlamagne Tha God
What I told Vlad and I haven't told you. I wanted to do a whole. I wanted all us to do it.
- [68:41]
DJ Vlad
Yeah.
- [68:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
And I said, like, Breakfast Club, do it.
- [68:42]
DJ Vlad
I said, let's do it. But I'm like, yo, it's been three years. I've done two Breakfast Club appearances and a brilliant idiot appearance here. Appearance. And I'm like, come on.
- [68:51]
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm coming, I'm coming.
- [68:53]
Vlad TV Guest
I ain't coming unless I get 40,000. That's coming.
- [69:07]
Lauren LaRosa
DJ Vlad, it's the Breakfast Club.
- [69:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning.
- [69:10]
DJ Vlad
Thank you.
- [69:10]
Charlamagne Tha God
Hold up. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up, Breakfast Club. You all finished or y' all done?
- [69:18]
DJ Vlad
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