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The holidays are about spending time with.
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Your loved ones and creating magical memories.
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That will last a lifetime.
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So whether it's family and friends you haven't seen in a while, or those who you see all the time, share holiday magic this season with an Ice cold Coca Cola. Copyright 2024 the Coca Cola Company.
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What's up? And welcome back to another episode of no Silly Podcast with your host. Now that with your low glasses, Malone.
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Yes baby. What you need, what you need, what you need, Daddy like okay, you know. And it's been We've been like. We've been like, good. Like, of course, yeah, we're gonna get into a little like. But it's. It's nothing. Like, nothing. And I do find myself, like, listening, like, listening to, like, okay, you just gave us.
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That's the truth. Right. And the truth is this is why you have to communicate, right? But you have to communicate effectively, right? Because you can't have two men. An ego is a man. That's why men have egos. Is that fair to say, Pete? Men have egos? Yeah, I mean, everybody has them. But I mean, it's in. In the relationship dynamic. I mean, it's. The issue is it's like to me.
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Women want to be led, but they.
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Don'T want to not. They don't want to acknowledge that there.
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Is a leader in the room and they're not it. I don't think that's necessarily always true. Now there are women that do need or think they need to lead. I was one of them. I am not. No, I am no longer one of them. But I do know a lot of women that absolutely don't want to lead. They absolutely are okay with the man leading and doing and providing and doing everything. They are okay.
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I'm sure they okay with somebody taking care of them. There's not. A man would be okay with the man taking care of her. You would not be okay mining somebody right now. And because it. Because of the connotation of minding, right, like listening to somebody give you directions.
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Oh, I'm good with that. Now I just be like, hey, don't go here. Okay. But I think that also comes with the trust in the relationship and who you're with. And that's. That's where I up. I was dealing with that. I really didn't trust like that. And that's. That's the honest to God truth. Because if I really trusted my man, I'm going to let him lead me and he's going to tell. When he tells me something, I'm gonna be like, okay, babe, you right, okay. Or whatever. But before I was dealing that. I'm like, you could do that. Then why would I listen to you?
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Then why would I mess with that person? Yeah, why would you sleep with anybody?
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Hello.
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You wouldn't listen to.
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I know this. That makes it. That sounds. It makes a lot of sense. But yeah, you know, when you say that. But these are. These are things that we were learning as we're growing.
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It's like a man sleeping with somebody he doesn't want to get pregnant.
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Right. No, totally get it. Right. I stand in my. I know what time it was. I knew. And it took me a while to understand that because I'm dealing with you. And if my mom question, like, the guy I told you can't get right, and you're like, why the hell you call them? Why are you dealing with my. As I got older. Yeah. I laugh at it now. Like, why was I dealing with this person? Like, what the hell was wrong with you? You saw all the red flags you gave the man. Can't get right. The name is can't get right in your phone. Like, can you literally not think, like, so exact Women.
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And. And. And that's.
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That's where we have to learn to say, you know what? We can be by ourselves.
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Women.
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We don't need to know.
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Yeah. Some women come from a background where, again, they lead a poly relationship. They're dating their ego and their man. And some women are dating their ego, their man, and their kids.
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Yeah. I think that with. With me, I was. I'm just so used to leading, like, making decisions and just kind of doing my own thing at the same time. It's like, then I'm wondering, like, okay, well, what are you, you know, what are you bringing to the table? Like, we can't talk on a. On the same level, or we're not interested in the same things. But once I realized, like, okay, you know, you got to take this ego out of the relationship because you're. You're not a man. Like, you can't do or be anything close to, you know, what a man can be. And I didn't want to be with a woman, so.
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Well, I disagree. You can. You. I'm sure you and Brit have did the same things that a man have done.
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What I'm saying with the feeling, as far as the feeling that I want from somebody else, a man, a woman can't give that to me. So unless I wanted to be by myself, I'm like, okay, I gotta.
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But what. But what is the feeling specifically? Is it to be cared for or is it just the fact that he has a penis? Biologically is different. I'm saying, like, he can. The puzzle is different. And that's what these are. No, but these is real questions, you know what I mean? That people need to ask. They.
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I want to feel protected.
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Like, so then, you know, and that's important, right, to feel protected. Guess what? Like, like your child, right? So, like, like, let's say Roland, right? Like, you have to. Hey, he can't like, imagine you trying to protect him. He's doing the things that you know could cause him danger.
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Right.
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That's how it is being a man dealing with a woman. So that's why sometimes men tone, especially when you being stubborn, like a child, can take the form of talking to a child. Because that's what it starts to feel like. And I'm sure for some women, that's what it starts to feel like when a man starts to do the wrong thing.
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Yeah.
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He start acting like your kid.
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Definitely. Yeah. And that's where that's when it goes. Like, that's just like, wait, what? Yeah.
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And kids are kids. The only reason they're kids is because they can't be accountable for themselves. Like, that's the problem. The problem is, like, I've argued with friends who have grown kids and I'm like, they keep trying to treat their kids like kids, right? They'll do whatever the kid want them to do. But these kids are because they're 19 or 20. And I tell my homie, like, that's not no kid. Like, they only playing you to take care of them for them to make their own decisions. So you gotta find a space in the middle or you taking care of an adult that you're dating. Right? Think about it, right? If your son, if your job is to protect your son, Brit, if like, if he's trying to go to a Hoover party and you know this is a Hoover party where all the gang members are there and you know that other people know they might come shoot it up. And your job is taking me, like, don't go to that party. And he goes to that party. Guess what you're gonna say to him when you figure out he was at that party? You finna fly off the handle because you're making my job hard of protection. Well, for women, they should think of that the same way when they're talking to a man. Like, if you want, you don't want to go somewhere with cuz and, you know, somebody start to put hands on you and he don't help you.
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Right.
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But if he tell you don't walk in his room with all these boxers and tripping ass drunk people and yo, stupid ass walking, you're gonna get both our ass kicked. So women cannot date their own ego and a man at the same time. A man, like, a man is going to come with an ego because that's what he needs to propel himself to the position to take care of his family. That's what he should be using it for. He should be using it to define his reputation. He should be using it to define his credit. He should be using it to, to build his economic, you know, portfolio, his base. What are you doing? That's the only thing it's good for.
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So the ego. Not with, with us, with women, but with everybody else or the outside world. Because, you know, I think men sometimes they don't want to be. Well, they don't want to be vulnerable because they want to carry this ego. But we need to, you know, we want to feel and see and you know, know that we can be there for you at those, those vulnerable times, you know, aside from God. But, you know, you don't have to carry an ego with us all the time.
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Like, you know, well, yes, that it shouldn't be, but you still do because again, you want somebody you're asking for. Women have this weird sense of demand. They, they want a bunch of stuff that don't really go together. Imagine your man like, well, I want to know, you could take care of yourself too, so I could take care of you. So you should pay the mortgage every other month. You wouldn't see it that way, right? So that's how it feels like you asking your man to. You want him to be hella tough, but then he come crying to you because somebody, you know at the ice cream parlor.
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I'm not talking about that though, because.
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You don't think it's that deep, right? Well, we feel the same. We are the same, right? Men and women are the same, right? We all feel the same thing. We have estrogen, like y'all have testosterone. So we feel certain, certain things hurt. Our feelings that probably are not worthy of, you know, on the social status of your feelings being hurt, but it still hurts your feelings. As I get older, certain scenes in movie that I saw a million times could make me feel like emotional as I get older. Like I might look at, like I watched last night, I watched what's the movie with Will Smith when he was trying to get the job in San Francisco. Pete.
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Oh, Pursuit of Happiness.
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He got the job and almost cried.
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I cried on that movie. That movie is. Yeah, right.
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So we have the same feelings, right? Because it emotionally moved me. I was like, damn, so happy this got a job. Like it's a real story. But again it's like, so we have the same things but you ask us to use the testosterone driven emotions. You ask that. But then sometimes you'll be like, well, when you with me, you should let the estrogen. No, because then you're a judge later. You know, I mean, like you, you know, he has these feelings and he should be treated as such. Just like I know a woman could take care of herself. I'm not stupid. I'm not doing something that no woman couldn't do for herself.
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True.
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Women take care of themselves just fine. Women could change a tire, change the engine. You know, bench press weights. My mama had hands. Some women could fight.
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Yeah.
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You know, women are construction workers. Women do the same thing. Men. But you want to be put into a space where you can lean on your estrogen. You want that space.
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That's true.
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Right?
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Soft girl era. I'm great.
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The holidays are about spending time with.
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Your loved ones and creating magical memories.
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That will last a lifetime.
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So whether it's family and friends you haven't seen in a while or those who you see all the time, share holiday magic this season with an ice cold Coca Cola. Copyright 2024 the Coca Cola Company the 2025 iHeart Podcast Awards are coming. This is the chance to nominate your podcast for the industry's biggest award. Submit your podcast for nominations now@iheart.com podcast awards. But hurry, submissions close on December 8th. Hey, you've been doing all that talking. It's time to get rewarded for it. Submit your podcast today@iheart.com podcast awards. That's iheart.com podcast awards. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five year old boy floated alone in the ocean.
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He had lost his mother trying to.
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Reach Florida from Cuba.
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He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looks so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez.
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Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is.
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A young boy and the question of who he belongs.
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With his father in Cuba, Mr. Gonzalez.
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Wanted to go and he wanted to take your son with him or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
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At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.
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Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to chess piece the Elian Gonzalez Story as part of the Michael Tura.
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Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there. I'm Dr. Maya Shankar, a cognitive scientist who studies human behavior. On my podcast, A slight change of plans. I marry science and storytelling to better understand how to navigate the big changes in our lives. It was like a slow nightmare, you know, because every day you think, oh, surely tomorrow I'll be better. And I would dream of being better. At night. I would Dream that my face was, quote, unquote, normal or back to the way it was, and I'd wake up and there'd be no change. I also speak with scientists about how we can be more resilient in the face of change.
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You can think of the adolescent brain.
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As like the social R and D engine of our culture. That they're something that looks like risky.
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And idiotic to us is maybe their.
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Way of creatively trying to solve the problem of having social success and fewer.
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Of the things that bring you social failure.
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Listen to a slight change of plans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, everyone, it's Sarah Spain from Good Game with Sarah Spain. And we're in the beautiful city of Malaga, Spain, where we just watched team Italy win the Billie Jean King Cup. Before the final, we got a chance to sit down with Billie Jean herself. Take a listen. Well, look at the scoring. I think it should be 1, 2, 3, 4. How do you get new kids in the game? I mean, they come to watch, and I never been in tennis, and my coach starts saying, well, let me explain the scoring. It's 15, love 30. I go, I know, 45, right? They go, no. And I go, and I'm 11 years old. And I said to him, this is the stupidest great English, the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Now I know I'm like a lot of kids. I don't come from tennis. My family's not in tennis. And if you are in tennis as a child, you still want to make it fun. Yeah. And I think when you start tennis, you should be put on a team. Just put them on a team. That can be a great team. Make it less individual from the beginning, because it's about relationships. To hear more from the legend herself, Billie Jean King, on my show Good Game with Sarah Spain. Be sure to listen to this episode of Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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No ceilings. Gl. Pete, what's happening?
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Just.
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Just here for the convo. Brett, Red, what's happening?
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Hey, what's going on? I know that's right.
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What's wrong, Pete? You know I said I'm late to the room. I know, but I text you a couple times. Everything okay? I was taking a nap. Okay, how's that? As you get older, naps, are they important?
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They can be.
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So I'm down 45 pounds, Pete. Once I get to 50 pounds down, that's when I'M gonna start bringing in my weight training. What I've been thinking about is more like fly weights, like more calisthenics, like push ups, pull ups, all of that stuff. Not so much weight. I don't really want to get a bunch of muscles. Like, I don't. Because I don't want to be. My goal was to not be heavy. If I make it to 50, sure. So I want to be as lean as possible right now. It ain't about the muscles, it ain't about the look. It's just about the health part. Yeah. So. But that. That was my point. So back to the. I digress. But that becomes the problem. So, like, sometimes when you would complain, I would say, like, hey, you are letting way too much ego rule this part. Like, to. To be in a righteous situation because you have to kind of remove that. Like, yeah, he gonna be frustrated. Because this is how it is being a man. When you always, like, as a man, like, I'm only viewed as a real man if I take care of somebody completely. I'm not even viewed as a real man if I pay half. Like, I'm viewed as a male because I have a penis. Right. That's my initial thing. But I'm not viewed as a man if I pay half. If I go half with a woman. I'm not viewed as a man.
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By who?
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By society. And even by your old lady. She not gonna respect you the same way. She's not gonna treat you like you're leading anything.
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You think. Do you think that. I mean, what.
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Do you think your son is a man right now? Do you think he's a man? Do you. He can make his own decisions. No, because he don't take care of himself.
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That's true.
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And that is a man. He probably bigger than you and everything he is. Whoop your ass and all kind of change your tie and everything.
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There's a of men that go half with their girls.
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Yeah, I'm sure.
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With stuff. So would you say that that's Brit. Would you say that's a man? Yeah, I don't think that. I don't think that that would be less of a man. I don't think so. I never been that situation, but I don't think I would have been like, oh, you not. You know what I'm saying? You respect. You would respect your man the same as. Yeah, you're a lie. I'm so what? So I would take that away because of his company.
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Imagine your man couldn't stand up for you if you in the street, somebody start.
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That's different.
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That's not different.
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That is different. You can't. How is that different?
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Protect and provide or how men are defined socially. Is that fair to say, Pete, protect and provide? I would say so, yeah.
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But if you can't. We already had this discussion before. I told you about how to do that. Watch get carried away. And after that it was a done though for me. I told you about that because like what the hell what you mean? So as long as he can protect you, that, that's basically number one protecting you and protect yourself. What kind of is that?
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What if you just don't got great hands?
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Damn, that's unfortunate. So she ain't about to be with nobody. Ain't got.
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So again, yeah, like I do know that there's a lot of men, some of my friends are in these same relationships, but I also know how women treat them. You know, I mean it is kind of considered a slight in, in society to go half with your old lady, even though these California bills are insane stupid. So. Yes, but I do think more women than I are making it work. But again, the goal for women is to find somebody who could take care of them and protect them. That's their goal. That's the most successful women socially. Now again, the reality is something is different. Reality is a lot of this is expensive and it's not just going to be most guys going to be able to do it right. You know. And me and Pete had a great conversation about this where he was like, man, really you should move.
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He's saying out of the state or wherever.
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Yeah, you gotta move. Where we both agree you should move to a place where you could take care of your family. I agree as a man. Right. Because again, it defines you. It's not worthy of being anywhere where you can't look up and say you're not putting a roof over your family head. But again, I, my, my, perspective is not dominant because I understand if you in California, even the thought of moving. But Pete told me the story of how his family moved out here because it was like that before that where they was at, it was a little tougher out here. His was. Your grandfather was able to take care of his family because it was cheaper. Yeah, well, it was, it wasn't cost cheaper, but it was so much opportunity. Yeah, there was more, it was more on the, on the income side. I was for both sides of my family. I mean that's why everybody like, like, like your grandparents who moved out here. It was the same thing. It Wasn't like, well, it's cheaper in.
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LA than Alabama, but it's like everyone's.
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Getting paid out there. There's no economy where we are here now. So we move either. Either move to avoid costs or to pursue revenue. Saying that's like a brilliant model that none of nobody told us. But white people kind of are aware. And I don't get me wrong, I do think the generation above ours, they were better humans. Like our generation is worse humans. Even the generation now, they feel like they're better. They're actually much worse human. You know, I mean, they, they. Because they don't. Like I was talking to my nephew about the, the Diddy and he didn't even. He starts saying, just making up like, oh, you know, he put a hit out on pocket. I'm like, do you not care that that's not true? Like you care that's not what. They're not charged. Well, he, he slept with some minors. Do you not care that that's not true? They're not charging with that. Like, what part of a fact do you care about? They don't. They only care about whatever is going on socially within the conversation.
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Yeah.
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Is that. That social sphere is where they convicting people at? Like the feds came out and said the arc. The, the feds. It would talked about that. The surviving R. Kelly. It made the feds start to investigate.
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Right. I did see something like that. And so this, the Cassie lawsuit is what made them.
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Yes. Really? The dude that. The attorney that's on social media, he. And it's. That's true. Because they're. You got to remember DA's.
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This is a big case for them.
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Yeah.
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This is going to sell the deal.
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Looking for that type of exposure.
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Definitely.
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But it reminds me of a time where like when the community was kind of going through some stuff. We was coming out of the crack era or kind of in the very, very last part of the twilight of where it was peaking at and you know, people were doing anything to get cracked. So crime in Los Angeles was a little rampant. It was a lot going on. And instead of the community finding a solution, they turned to the white justice system to find a solution. So hence Joe Biden and certain people responded back with the crime bill. Right. Of 94. Right. Which instituted three strikes. And immediately when you hear about how three strikes work, it's really a double jeopardy law. It's like if you, if you went to jail for two, two, two felonies before, if you did this and then you steal something that's it. We're going to put you in prison for 25 years to life. So at that time, people thought they were doing the right thing because they were so in their emotions. That's why. A buddy of mine that's on Clubhouse, I met him and I would call him a buddy. His name is Gary, but from Atlanta. He was saying that, like, he felt like the black church spearheaded that movement with Biden and them. And again, whenever you turn to forgive me, Pete, because I don't mean every white person, but, you know, I'm talking about the power structure in existence. When you turn to unjust people for justice, it's going to look bad on people that's poor, that look like us, that look like me. Right. So the same thing is happening now. Yeah, they're like. Like, again, like, we're looking at R. Kelly, we looking at Puff, and it kind of fits into the same conversation, even with Cassie. Like, Cassie is like, they talked about it, like. And this is really. I know. That's the details. They tried to shake Puff down with the book, the thread of the book. To get the 30 million.
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Yeah, right.
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Puff felt it was a shakedown. I ain't gonna give you nothing. Puff actually was in a relationship with Cassie. Cassie stayed with Puff for years. Not just out of fear. I'm sure there's a level of fear there. She stayed with Puff because Puff had money.
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Right.
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He's powerful. He Puffed. She wanted to be successful in the music business. When you look up her past, she's been trying to be in the music business and kind of ahead of her age for a long time. I mean, so she found somebody she thought could enhance her career, and maybe they fell in love, maybe they didn't. You know, I don't know. I'm not in a personal relationship, but they was together for years. You knew this was weird within the first probably six months. You know, I mean, and not to call Diddy weird, but it's like you knew he was a deviant for sure within the first six months. Because I knew Diddy was a deviant before you dated him. So maybe played it off for a couple months, but eventually the deviant side came out. You could walk. But then again, because she was looking for that level.
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She was very young, though. 18, 19.
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Sure, she was. She was. But again, that's the problem, too. That's if you're going to have a legal ramification of age and responsibility and accountability. 18. Then it has to be 18. It can't just be like, well, you Know what she was with that he had money and she was just young and stupid. No women gonna be like that today. Seventy, you know, I mean, but it's like, man, it just puts us in a weird situation. Like they're charging these two dudes with racketeering. Harvey Weinstein actually was using his business as a racket.
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And what does that mean when they say they're charging them for racketeering?
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So racketeering or. Or the RICO act people talked about is a law created in. In 1970. P. I think it's 1970. So when they couldn't catch. Before 1970, America had to catch you committing crimes. They had to charge you with the crime that you committed. Okay, the mafia bosses or the mob bosses who were organizing all of the crimes, right? The Mafia bosses, the mob bosses who organized crime. They weren't actually out committing crimes. They couldn't prove that they did a crime, but they knew they had the power to organize and make a crime happen. So they created a law which kind of conspiracy. And all these different things, they all rooted into all of this same idea. It's like thought into laws, thought into crime. Like, the thought of crime. And that's how they started taking down mafias and mob bosses. And America probably should have actually, America probably in 1970, should have stood up. The people should have stood up against that law because that became the problem, right? Like where you don't have to catch nobody doing a crime. Now, if I. If I make you do a crime, that's the crime. No, it's. There's accountability for adults. I could tell you to do whatever the fuck I tell you to do. I could pay you to do whatever I pay you to do. If your ass do it, it's your fucking fault. But again, to, you know, you avoiding accountability. And they did that to take down the Mafia, the mob bosses. And you have to respect.
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I mean, they be in those situation situations where they can't say no.
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You can always say no. You don't actually have to be a prostitute.
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I mean, you can. But if you're gonna get killed or you know what I'm saying, your family's gonna get hurt. And I'm talking about with the mob, things like that. Yeah, like, of course, no, nobody's gonna.
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Hurt your family because you didn't do what I said.
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Who says who in the mob? What are you talking about? I mean, unless. Oh, no, it's that it's only on power. Okay?
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That's like black people. 50 Cent is not. That's not How I go.
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Oh, no, I'm saying there's intimidation. There's, you know.
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Yeah, but you can't be a. Like, being a coward should be against the law. If somebody threatens your family, go to the police. Because if you in the underworld and somebody threatened your family, you know what you supposed to do if you in the underworld, you know, like, if you don't. If the law is not the ultimate sense of justice, and you have, you know, your own sense of justice. Like, in. In the street underworld, if somebody threatened your family, you're supposed to kill that person on the spot. I don't give a. If it's the greatest mob boss in the world, cut his head off. But we gotta stop this weird law of making it okay for people to be a. Is crazy. Like, oh, you could be a mark. Somebody could mark you out. And they call that coercion. No use a mark. I was just talking about it on Twitter with Gene Deal. Gene Deal is running around like he's a hero because he been talking about what Puff did. Now, Puff got arrested. He was paying you doing it in front of you, and you didn't do nothing to him. Now. And the reason you didn't do nothing because. Is because you was getting paid. The reason you doing these interviews, talking about cuz, is because you getting paid.
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Who is this?
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This is one of the main people that was working for him. That was. They call it an early whistleblower. Puff was doing something right. But it's like, I couldn't be next to Birdman. He was doing some buster ass. If Birdman was next to me and he was, you know, I mean, look, if Birdman was beating up his old lady, I'd have stopped him. Like, if that's me and that's Birdman with his. With Tony Braxton in that elevator video and Birdman. But I'm finna push stunt. Hey, Stunning. What's up? Hold up, bro. No, bro. We finna get down. Now, if I broke it up the first time and then you still with this dude, I'm not either gonna be around for sure. I'm gonna stop hanging with y'all. If I don't leave from being around you, I ain't gonna watch you whip your old lady multiple times. So even if, like, a Gene Deal saw that situation happening with them and you broke it up and then they.
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Kept doing it, and you was taking.
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Now I'm not gonna be around y'all. I don't be around nobody committing no crime. I don't want to go to jail.
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For I know that's right.
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I don't hang around nobody. Me and my big homie got into argument because he wanted to kill some taxi cab driver for calling him a. And I'm like, everybody, I'm not going to prison for that. They're not gonna be like, what you in jail for? Oh, man. The homie knocked this down. My g homie. The homie knocked this taxicab driver down because he called him the N word. And I'm not gonna go to prison for that. And I'm gonna get the rest of my life for that, dumb ass. No, that I'm. No. And that was me as a kid. I'm not you. You can't. I don't give a how tough you is. If something I don't want to do, you ain't gonna make me do it, let alone take dick like some of the people. In that case, you're not gonna kill you.
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Yeah. Some people just don't have that.
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It's not that some people don't see it. No. Some people just care about money.
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Yeah.
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And money means everything. That's why Puff this is happening. The reason you go buy them prostitutes is because prostitutes are for sale. The reason you go buy people is because people are for sale. The reason Gene Deal didn't actually do nothing to Puff or stop Puff when he was doing this or, you know, as an ex probation officer go to the police is because he was bought and paid for. And I'm tired of people acting like the problem is the people paying. The problem ain't the people paying. The problem ain't people want to have sex with a prostitute. The problem is the prostitute selling for money. If. If there is a problem. If there is a problem, like, we could get to the real problems.
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Yeah, that's nasty. But then they said, I just wouldn't have been around. And if there was no. I'm like, there would be no pimps if there was no prostitute, man.
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I mean, look, at the end of.
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The day, I mean, who they gonna pimp if they no prostitute. That's true. But then.
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I don't know. Well, there's a lot of used Buicks need selling. You said, what? So there's a lot of used Buicks need selling. A lot of used Buicks that need to be sold. The holidays are about spending time with.
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Like, they can't charge him for that. You know why? Because people can have as many cameras in their house as they want.
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And you know what? I have a friend who just went through a situation where. Yeah. They told her that this man can have his cameras in his own house. Yeah, that's true.
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It's not against the law.
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But the recording, though, that's not against the law without their consent.
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If you come in my.
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So what is the. What is the.
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Okay, no, I can't. I didn't want to talk about this.
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Well, just explain that part to her.
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Okay, so Diddy's three charges. There's only three, right? There's racketeering, there's sex trafficking, there's transportation for prostitution.
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Yep.
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Okay, now they're saying the. The. Those three indictments are built by these different crimes. Right. Coercion is. I was detailed in the indictment is like, well, he would threaten to take people's finances away if they didn't do what he said. Like, he would fire people if they didn't do what he said do.
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Okay.
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I'm like, that's how a job works. They're saying the racketeering charges. What they're saying is all along the time, over the last. Since 2008, which they really wasn't investigating. But based off of what they've been able to figure out with the witnesses since 2008, different crimes puff has done. Home enterprises becomes like a. Like a criminal underworld because they're blocking things. Prime example, when they got into the little squabble in. In the hotel. Because when the. Somebody saw it, that the. The. The maid saw it and, you know. You know, saw it. Instead of letting her call the police or maybe she doesn't. Puff says, look, don't call the police. I need to deal with this ourselves. I'm gonna pay you. Can you get the video? I'll pay for that too. They saying they combining that with that. And they said, okay, because his team helped facilitate that to some degree. I don't quite know what his team did. Maybe they called after to get the video or whatever. And then the next thing is like, okay, well, he blew up kid Cuddy car. So they talk about arson. They're like, oh, so they're. They're linking all of these crimes together to charge him like a crime boss.
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Got it. That's.
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When in reality, that's not. While the letter can fit, that's not the spirit of it. You just talking about a. A really nasty older man who has money and power. You know what I mean? In. In a really turbulent relationship with women. You know, again, his enterprise will be built off buying women. More like he don't have rape charges and he didn't force nobody to do nothing. Even, like. Like, even if they're charging him per se, with, let's say. Oh, people talk about the. The alcohol was laced. These are common things people knew going to Diddy parties. Yeah, like, you kind of knew that they party a little harder. Like, I knew that walking up like, they party harder. So if I don't party how as hard as them, I probably don't need to be partying with them. So again, but now in. In hindsight, it, you know, it's like, oh, well, that's. You know, that ain't right. But people knew that. The people who went to Diddy's parties knew how did. He partied. Diddy is on, you know, he take drugs, he drink.
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But I don't think. I don't think all the. Say the younger, like, girls because, you know, you'll have somebody like, oh, we're going to a party at Diddy's. And then, you know, all the, you know, you Know what that was? Well, the person that brought him should have told the part. Exactly. That was my point.
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To a party. If you don't know that, the person.
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That brought them should have told him. Because there's a lot of girls fresh out of high school, very naive. I'm going to Diddy's house to party. They don't know what. They go to other people's house to party, so they're like, I'm going to Diddy's house to party. Yes, we're going to party. But then they end up. The bottles are lace. But the person who brought them, they know what's cracking.
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Don't nobody.
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Or they should have known. It's a lot of people. I have a young daughter, and she. You know what I'm saying?
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All been hearing about.
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She's just like, I'm not gonna go.
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But we all. We've all, since we were probably in our 20s, been hearing about how Diddy parties. None of us have not heard how Diddy parties.
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But we're older. But we're.
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No, no. Since in our 20s, we've been hearing about how Diddy party.
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Right.
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All of us. And everybody's aspiration was to go to a Diddy party knowing it was crazy.
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Because, you know, it's gonna be bananas, gonna be a gang of people. It's gonna. It was gonna be the party, though. But I. I didn't think that I. I didn't think that I was gonna go to the party and get Lace drinking some alcohol. That. No. Well, see, the only reason why I knew about that, told you is because I actually seen that. Not at Diddy's house, but at another Hollywood Hills home where I actually seen them doing it. And I'm like, oh, this is what you told me? Yeah. And after that, that's when I knew, like, okay, this is what's really going on. But had I not, I think that would happen.
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Why would you go to Diddy's party and drink alcohol? Why are you lowering your inhibition? What are you doing? Like. And see, this is where the questions get really hard. They stop being, like. Lack of accountability. They stop being like, oh, you know, why the fuck would you go to a strange house and drink alcohol?
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Because when you go to a party, you're going to a party. Not every. Okay, this is Diddy. So I do know this person. But there's several parties that we've been to that we don't. We don't know whose house it is. We're going to party.
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Somebody's party.
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I Mean, not now, but we're talking about younger in younger ages.
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Okay. You remember dating when you was younger?
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Yeah.
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You know why men brought you liquor?
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Yeah, and I wasn't drinking it with them. You know what I'm saying? But you're going to a party. You're 21. I'm not.
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Look, why would you take awareness? See, and these are the real you going.
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If they're. If they have the liquor g at the bar and they're making drinks and this drink is Lace.
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Even in a place where other people at, you don't really want me to ask the questions that I really want to ask. You know why I don't drink red, right? Because I don't never want to not know what the fuck is going on.
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I feel you.
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You know why you drink? Because you don't want to know what's going on. You want to enhance whatever it is you want to feel. And I'm not. Look, I'm not trying to come down on the world that drinks or smoke weed or do cocaine or. Or pop X. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying y'all have to start being honest with what the goal is in the first place of why you're doing what you're doing. And then you can say, oh, this is too far. I didn't want this particular thing to happen. But this can only happen because you are not in your mind. Like, why. Why I never drank nothing at nobody party because I always wanted to be in control.
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And that's great. And those. You know, everybody isn't mindful.
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So then again, that's the accountability part, right? That goes back into the whole.
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I get it, but where's the accountability for the person that. You know, what I'm saying is, why are you spiking liquor and telling everybody to get.
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Everybody knows you want.
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And even if he wasn't getting the pussy, he wanted everybody to feel so they could say, oh, I was at the house.
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Yeah.
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If Diddy's party was.
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Because, again, you know how people feel about sex and feel like, oh, man, they feel special about themselves. Look, I'm not saying by no means. Again, for the fourth or fifth, sixth, seventh podcast, I am not saying that I think Diddy is not. He don't. He don't have things he should be charged with. But again, there's a lot of missing accountability that creates a mafia like figure that don't make no sense. Like, we have to go to. We have to get to a place in society where people actually start to have accountability. Why is him and R. Kelly the only RICO charge where they're the only two people charged?
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Yeah.
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Every other RICO charge, they charge a thousand other people. Why is only them charged? Why is this the first rico? Why R. Kelly? Why Weinstein get charged with racketeering? Weinstein was using his business to actually rape women. He got charged with rape multiple times.
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Oh, he didn't do his business. He doesn't have a racketeering charge? No.
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Why the did not cuz get charged, Epstein? He actually was actually running that type of business. Puff is just nasty. He's a nasty old bastard. They got a bad drug problem and he's on alcohol. Really bad. So he's making bad decisions. That's not John Gotti's thing. That's not what. John Gotti's pro. John Gotti's sober as a motherfucker. Making these decisions, and he getting people killed. Puff is just nasty. And it's his way of. To me, this is kind of like. I hear the term because Puff considers himself a man of God, right? And I think in his heart he feels that, but his mind is kind of a little different. Like, it's more stuff going on. Like, people, even in indictment, they talk about how the fact certain. Some of the pills, you know, oh, well, you know, he used drugs to control people. He didn't stuff no drugs down people's mouth. Like, we gotta eventually get back to a space of accountability. That's the beginning of this conversation that we even talking about where women want to date their ego and a man. So then you got, you know, again, you. You. You don't have space for the man. If you got your ego. If you need to be a proud human, a proud provider, then what you need a man for? Maybe, you know, you could be like diddy and just buy one.
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Buy one.
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Just buy one. You know what I'm saying? So it's just. It's just frustrating. It's frustrating, you know, and then the world is happening in front of the world and on all levels. Even from the beginning of this conversation where women are being taught to be like, oh, you know, from the independent songs, like, why would you have to brag? You take care of yourself. I ende. Why is that a good song? Like, there's no songs like that for me. And I pay my own bills. Well, where's our song? Like that, I take care of myself. That's. I paid my own rent, I got my own car. That's not a cool man song.
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Because it's. It. It was always expected for you guys to do that. It was. Women weren't supposed to work. Well, women didn't work, and, you know, they weren't taking care of themselves.
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So now you have to brag for being an adult.
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That's what happened. They shouting it out from the ceiling.
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So what I'm saying, Brit, like, what are we doing? I take it's. It's equivalent to celebrating a birthday. Yeah. Like, everybody has them. This is what I just.
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Yeah.
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I'm not homeless. Look at me.
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Hey, I didn't die in the last year. Look at me. Well, we didn't always have that. So when.
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When did women not have jobs?
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All the women in my family always had jobs. So, I mean, I'm just, you know, going back, I guess. I mean, that's the job, too, though.
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I can see if the song. Equal pay and like, oh, you know what? We making all the. Now we making this much money. Okay, cool. But you bragging about the ability to take care of yourself as an adult, it's crazy. Even the term single mom is like. I don't know what that really means.
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What do you mean, single mom?
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What the. Is that you was. That's how you had a kid.
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What? She's a single mom. She's a single. She's single. Okay, yeah, she. She had a kid, but she's a single. She's single. The daddy not there title, I mean.
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All that shows is that you was. And you not with the.
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You was how.
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Okay, that's not nothing to brag about.
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Instead of using the term single mom, we use the term failed wife.
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Bye.
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What the.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah. No, yeah, it's just.
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It's just we. We start maneuvering society to a really weird space, you know? I mean, like, it's just really, like I said, with men, you know, you. You're not supposed to brag that you. That's a flex. When you bragging that, you know, you take care of a woman, it's not a flex to say you take care of yourself.
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Wait, it's a flex when you're saying you take care of a woman.
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Yeah, you take care of your family. And that didn't used to be a flex, but that's a flex now. If you pay all the bills, that's a flex.
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Oh, for sure. Oh, sure. Y'all gonna for show. I take care of you. I take care of you.
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If a woman took care of a man, she is considered a failure in society. You'd be like, imagine you had to take care that dude. Like, you have to take care of him. Everything he do.
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Oh, yeah.
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Every dumb ass mistake he make. That's how I feel. Every time he do some dumb. He wrecked his car. You gotta fix it, keep the AC on. When you go in work, you got to pay the bill. That's how it is being a man. A woman is expecting you to take care of her no matter what silly mistakes you make.
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B
That's funny. Yeah. So sorry for y'all.
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And I mean, it's all good. It's all good. I mean, it's just the society we live in. I just don't want people to forget.
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Well, if they didn't know, they know now. It's a, you know, taking care of physical things and, you know, stuff like that. But we taking care of the house.
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Look, I think a whole household. Don't get me wrong, I think. I don't think a woman don't pull her own weight. Even if a man is paying all the bills. It's not about that. But if you don't have a true appreciation for that, then you forget the gratitude portion of it. I mean, I do think taking care of a house is a ton of work. I think washing and making sure the kids and all that is a ton of work. I don't think it's a lack of respect for that work. But obviously, you know, the work that's tough because you don't, you know, the work you don't want to do. I bet you, you could find a man who would actually, you know, he. He wouldn't mind ironing your clothes for you to get up and go make all the money. And he just get to sit at home and go get his haircut to look nice for you when he come home and cook dinner. Still a different job. You still wouldn't. Even if you, you know, if. If cuz lost his job and then you. He making all the food, it might be cool for the first few months. I mean, you like, damn, you know, this ain't. Then eventually you're gonna look and, you know, he left his moonroof open, and now you got to pay for his interior electronics. Get fixed, that gonna start to come out. You're gonna be like, hold up, bro.
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Have you ever watched. I mean, did you ever see Mr. Mom? I was just thinking, wasn't there a movie called Mr. Mom, like, decades ago? That's basically. She wasn't feeling it after a while. No, it was like it was reversed. The man had to stay home. The woman, he got laid, he got furloughed and the woman ended up getting a job in advertising. So she started going to work every day. She was a stay at home. I don't care. So he, he was like up, like he up the washing machine, all kind of stuff. It was funny though. Like he messed up like how to take them to school. Like he was all lost and stuff. That's what's funny.
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Yeah, no, listen, any. So, so I do think there is a lesson that men need to know for women who actually take care of the house. Like there, there definitely needs to be a real gratitude because that ain't no punk. Cooking and cleaning and, and caring for children on the consistent. That's tough. But it got to be an appreciation and, and that's the point. It needs to be gratitude. It's not enough gratitude. You know, like, imagine you making some food, telling you like, yeah, I could cook my own food. That shit will make you feel.
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Oh yeah. Oh hell yeah. Especially after I done made this food.
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Or you supposed to cook the food, right?
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Oh yeah.
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No, and that becomes their attitude. So you gotta define it in yourself. That's the trick. You have to define it in yourself.
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Take the ego out.
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Women definitely don't need pride or ego in a, in a, in a, in a while they're dating a man. You need pride, ego if you taking care of yourself. I mean, you definitely need it when you taking care of yourself, but you don't need it if you have a man taking care of you. That, that ain't gonna work for you. But both people do need gratitude. I agree with that. Definitely like that. I think there's men who don't really have the right gratuitous attitude towards their old lady for, you know, carrying that, you know, turning the house into a home. That's just to maintaining a home is some maintaining a home and some it's not no problem. Pump.
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Yes, I agree.
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The holidays are about spending time with.
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Your loved ones and creating magical memories.
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That will last a lifetime.
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So whether it's family and friends you haven't seen in a while, or those who you see all the time, share holiday magic this season with a nice cold Coca Cola. Copyright 2024 the Coca Cola Company the 2025 iHeart Podcast Awards are coming. This is the chance to nominate your podcast for the industry's biggest award. Submit your podcast for nomination now@iheart.com podcast awards. But hurry. Submissions close on December 8th. Hey, you've been doing all that talking. It's time to get rewarded for it. Submit your podcast today@iheart.com podcast awards. That's iheart.com podcast awards.
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On Thanksgiving Day 1999, five year old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off.
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The coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy.
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Go back to his father in Cuba?
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Mr. Gonzalez wanted to, and he wanted to take his son with him or.
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Stay with his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chef's the Elian Gonzalez story.
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On the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're messing. Well, not a mess. But on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J. Lo on her third divorce. Living girls trip to Miami.
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Mess.
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Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram. Live Living. Mmm, it's kind of mess. Yeah.
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Well, you get it.
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Got it. Live love. Mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there. I'm Dr. Maya Shankar and I'm a scientist who studies human behavior. Many of us have experienced a moment in our lives that changes everything. That instantly divides our life into a before and an after. On my podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, I talk to people about navigating these moments. Their stories are full of candor in hard won wisdom. And you'll hear from scientists who teach us how we can be more resilient in the face of change. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.