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Robyn Dixon
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Gisele Bryant
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Robyn Dixon
All?
Gisele Bryant
It's DJ Envy.
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Robyn Dixon
Connecting changes everything.
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Robyn Dixon
Trainer Games.com welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of the Black Effect podcast network and iHeartRadio.
Gisele Bryant
Welcome to another episode of Reasonably Shaky. I am Gisele Bryant.
Robyn Dixon
What's up? What's up? I'm Robin Dixon. Thank you for being here with us once again.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. 2025is coming to an end.
Robyn Dixon
Oh, my God.
Gisele Bryant
It is coming to a screeching halt.
Robyn Dixon
Yes, it is. Yes, indeed. Yeah. But before we get there, we gotta get to.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. We gotta get through Christmas for sure.
Robyn Dixon
Get to Christmas.
Gisele Bryant
Yes.
Robyn Dixon
I am. Like, I don't. I know. We all. I know everyone feels the same way, but, like, how does time move so fast?
Gisele Bryant
I don't know. I don't know, but I feel like we were just at January.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Everything. Yes.
Gisele Bryant
No, totally. Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
I feel like I was just in Dallas for Thanksgiving. Like, I feel like that was.
Gisele Bryant
Oh, yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Yesterday.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. Eating the food that was dry.
Robyn Dixon
Yes, exactly. So I'm just like, how.
Gisele Bryant
The dry Dallas food. That's funny. Okay, so shady moment. You got that?
Robyn Dixon
Listen, you walked to my house. We talked about this a couple weeks ago.
Gisele Bryant
Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Robyn Dixon
And I'm just gonna make myself a shady moment. My Christmas decorations are not up.
Gisele Bryant
They're not.
Robyn Dixon
They're not up. Not a thing. And every single day, Juan Dixon says, I'm gonna bring the Christmas decorations up. I'm gonna bring the Christmas decorations up, and it doesn't happen.
Gisele Bryant
Well, can you go down there and get them?
Robyn Dixon
I can, but it's like, I want.
Gisele Bryant
Him to do it. Why?
Robyn Dixon
But why not?
Gisele Bryant
I mean, okay, yes, we want Juan to do it, but let's just say he's doing something else. Right.
Robyn Dixon
Well, okay, so. No, the thing is, like, so when he says, I'm going to bring them up, I expect him to bring them Up. You know what I mean? So then the day gets the day in and they're not up. And then the next day I'm going to bring them up.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
So then. So, yeah. I never got to the point where I'm like, okay, I'm going to bring them up. Because he keeps saying he's going to bring them up.
Gisele Bryant
Are we going to get to that point?
Robyn Dixon
We probably are.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
Today probably not, because we're going out of town.
Gisele Bryant
Oh, that's right. That's right.
Robyn Dixon
So we're so.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
So my Christmas. So now. So we're going out of town. We'll be back by the time this airs.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. Monday, Monday.
Robyn Dixon
And then Christmas is Thursday.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. So if you put them up, which you should do for. Cause you know you have to put gifts under the tree.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
You have to keep it up until March. Cause it hasn't been up.
Robyn Dixon
I can't do that.
Gisele Bryant
Why not?
Robyn Dixon
Cause I'm gonna be one of those people that I talk about. Nobody will know. I'll probably put them up. Okay. So if I put them up, I'm gonna get them up before. I'm gonna get something up, at least my tree something. I'm gonna get it up before Christmas.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
And then I'll. I'll leave it up for a whole month. Okay. Because usually I like to take it down the week after New Year's. So I'll leave it up. It'll be up New Year's Day, and then the week after, I'm taking everything down.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
So now I'm gonna be like, okay, I'm gonna leave it.
Gisele Bryant
Leave it up for a whole a month.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
So before Valentine's Day.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Coming off. It's coming down.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Before Martin Luther King.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
No. Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
Martin Luther king would be March 3rd. Like the third weekend. Isn't it the third weekend?
Robyn Dixon
Yeah. That's like January 19th. Ish.
Gisele Bryant
Okay, so. Oh, right after that. Yeah, right after Martin Luther King at.
Robyn Dixon
The Martin Luther King. Okay. I'm not gonna be like my neighbors, though. So one of my neighbors has Christmas decorations up. I think they did this last year, too. And I talked about them, and they still have pumpkins on their front step.
Gisele Bryant
So you can't. You can't do Halloween and Christma. Christmas at the same time. Take up. Take your pick.
Diet Coke Narrator
Right.
Gisele Bryant
You can't do both.
Robyn Dixon
I'm. I'm like. I'm so confused. I'm like, y' all stood out there and put the lights up with the pumpkin still there. And y' all saw those Pumpkins sitting. And y' all said, all right, that looks good. And you went inside.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. By the way, you. The. Your neighbor around the corner. I love there. So the. In the ground, they have like these little Christmas lights.
Robyn Dixon
Uh huh.
Gisele Bryant
I love them. They're so cute. Where they're like stuck into the ground. They're like, they're right around the corner.
Robyn Dixon
Oh. Like they look like big ornaments or something.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. They have that. But then they have little ones on the ground.
Robyn Dixon
Oh, I haven't. I don't think I've noticed.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah, they're stuck in the ground. So I wanted to actually knock on their door and ask them, were they like, are they automatic or are they wired up?
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Because they look kind of automatic.
Robyn Dixon
Okay. Yeah, I have to. I have to look. I have to pay attention.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah, pay attention. Anyway, I have a shady moment.
Robyn Dixon
Okay. What would that be?
Gisele Bryant
But my shady moment is a good shady moment. Oh, yes.
Robyn Dixon
Love it.
Gisele Bryant
Love good ones. So recently I went to a wedding and a nice little. Just side note, this is not the shady moment, but side note, very nice gay wedding.
Robyn Dixon
Okay. Fun. Was that your first?
Gisele Bryant
No. Cause my first was actually. We were there together.
Robyn Dixon
We were.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah, we were at justice of the Peace.
Robyn Dixon
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my first. Okay. Okay. But that was like a small.
Gisele Bryant
Right? Yes, but this was a full blown extravaganza.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
And you know, the gays, they do not disappoint. Right? Yes, yes.
Robyn Dixon
They don't cut corners.
Gisele Bryant
They don't cut corners. They are very clear about every detail. Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Has nothing to do with my shady moment.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
So I'm in there and I'm like, you know what? There's like an eclectic group of people that are there for the wedding.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
So I see this guy across the room, and he's a guy that I've been checking out at the gym for years.
Robyn Dixon
Like in a you're attracted to him.
Gisele Bryant
And I might want to date him kind of way. Okay. So actually a very nice white looking white man. Not white looking. He is a white man. He's a white man. He's tall. He's like really buff. When he gets dressed, he has like these little glasses on. He just looks very distinguished.
Robyn Dixon
Okay, okay.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. So Gisele has had our eye on this man. And every time I see him at the gym, he's like, hey, how you doing? And I'm like, hi. And then I keep walking.
Robyn Dixon
And you're wondering why he's not asking you out.
Gisele Bryant
No, I've never felt that. I just. Because A part of me, I think he's married. I have seen him out and about one time with a woman, and I do believe he's married.
Robyn Dixon
Okay. I was gonna think he was gay. Cause he was at the gay wedding. No, no, no, no.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. He. No. So. But I was standing next to one of the gays and I. Not at the gays. That's terrible to say. I was standing next to a guy that I'm very good friends with that.
Robyn Dixon
Happened to be gay.
Gisele Bryant
Happens to be gay, who goes to the gym. And I'm like, yo, that one over there, I've been checking him out. And he was like, you don't want that. I said, is he gay? He was like, no, he's not gay.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
And so I said, okay. He said, I've been checking him out too. And I was like, huh?
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
I was like, but he's not gay, right? He said, I know, but he's a very nice looking man. And you know, the gays don't discriminate. They check out everybody.
Robyn Dixon
Of course.
Gisele Bryant
So he said, yeah, I saw him come out the shower. I said, okay. He said, there's nothing there. And I said, you're lying. He said, I was so disappointed that I threw my towel down and walked out the room. I said, that's how disappointed you were. He was like, that's how disappointed I was. So clearly that would be a waste of my time. Yes, but it was so disappointing.
Robyn Dixon
Really.
Gisele Bryant
I mean, so it was great shade from the perspective of like, I needed to know that. Yeah. And the gays will tell you immediately. They'll let you know. Don't waste your time.
Robyn Dixon
Oh, my God.
Gisele Bryant
So it was shady from that perspective, but it was great for me because, like, I don't want to waste my time.
Robyn Dixon
Right, right, exactly.
Gisele Bryant
But how disappointing. I can never look at this man again.
Robyn Dixon
Oh, man.
Gisele Bryant
Like with a straight face.
Robyn Dixon
Well, that's a good thing. He's married. You don't need to be wasting your time looking at him anyway.
Gisele Bryant
I know.
Robyn Dixon
Or maybe he's married. You don't know.
Gisele Bryant
I think he is married. Yeah, but he did. Okay, so there's a rumor. And it's a very good rumor. Cause it's not really a rumor. Okay, so he. Okay, there's an upstairs bathroom. I shouldn't be telling this story. There's an upstairs bathroom. Oh, shit. And he broke the sink because he was in there having sex with somebody. With a woman. And whatever position they was in, they came out, that sink was broke.
Robyn Dixon
Well, he was working something.
Gisele Bryant
He was Trying to make the attractive man. Yes. Maybe it grows. Oh, he's a grower.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
Not a shower.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
Huh. Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
He was working something. Okay.
Gisele Bryant
All right, well.
Robyn Dixon
Oh, my God. Broke the sink.
Gisele Bryant
Broke the sink. The bathroom was out of order for, like, 30 days. Cause the sink was broken.
Robyn Dixon
And how do we know it was him?
Gisele Bryant
Because people saw him come out and then. Yeah. And that worked. So I'm telling this story to the guy that I was with, and I was like, yo, you know he broke the sink on the third floor bathroom. He was like, how do you know this? I said, look, I got my ear to the ground. Know these things. So that. That was even more so. Like, okay, yes. I was thinking. Then I'm like, oh, okay. He knows how to put the work in, right?
Robyn Dixon
Exactly.
Gisele Bryant
But we don't know what he's working with.
Robyn Dixon
He's a grower.
Gisele Bryant
He's a grower. Not a shower.
Robyn Dixon
You can't judge a book by its cover.
Gisele Bryant
But, you know, it's really taking a big risk.
Robyn Dixon
It is. And wasting your time.
Gisele Bryant
Total. Yeah, total. But if he's married. Yeah, of course he's off limits. Okay. Speaking of men.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
With. With maybe large penises or not. Did you see the documentary?
Robyn Dixon
Okay. Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Cause we were gonna talk about it. Yes, yes, yes.
Robyn Dixon
So I watched. Last time we talked about it, I had only watched one episode.
Gisele Bryant
So this is the documentary of Sean Puffy Combs. Yes. So what is the reckoning? The reckoning of Diddy?
Robyn Dixon
Reckoning of Sean. Is it of Diddy or of Sean Cone? I don't know.
Gisele Bryant
Netflix. Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Yes. Oh, he was reckoned with.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
That. I finished watching that. I was like, he's a piece of shit. A piece of shit. And we already knew.
Gisele Bryant
Oh, my God.
Robyn Dixon
But this, like. Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
Okay, first of all, let's.
Robyn Dixon
I'm not going to the White Party.
Gisele Bryant
When it gets out because you said you were gonna try to get.
Robyn Dixon
You said I was gonna go. I'm not going.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. I am not going to the white Party, the Red party, the Green party, None of the parties. Okay. I'm not going. Okay. So 50 Cent.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
Everyone has issue with him because he produced this, right? So everybody's like, he's so petty. He's so petty. No, he's.
Robyn Dixon
So why knock someone when they're down?
Gisele Bryant
Right? Why knock them when they're down? They're already down. He's already in jail. Blah, blah, blah, blah. 50 is so rich. Like, this is, like, the number one documentary on Netflix of all time. And I'm sure 50's getting money on the back end.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
And he's 50's a businessman.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
I'm not mad at it.
Robyn Dixon
I'm not mad at it either. I'm not mad at 50. I'm like.
Gisele Bryant
And.
Robyn Dixon
And 50 doesn't like Diddy. Like, he has no allegiance to him. And he's.
Gisele Bryant
He said that from the door for decades.
Robyn Dixon
Has no allegiance to him.
Gisele Bryant
And let's be clear, 50's baby mama was one of Dee Dee's girlfriends, Right. Recently.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Not a long time ago that was.
Robyn Dixon
Taken advantage of and treated like a damn prostitute. Sex worker.
Gisele Bryant
She was one of the sex workers. Yes. No, she wasn't one of the sex workers. She was the.
Robyn Dixon
She was the girl. Like, you know, she was the girlfriend. But I felt like he treats them like sex workers.
Gisele Bryant
Yes, he does. Yes, he does.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
So one of my girlfriends called me. She was like, what do you think? And I. Okay, this is all allegedly guys, but I think he has something to do with anyone who's dead.
Robyn Dixon
I know.
Gisele Bryant
I think he has something to do with it. I know. Allegedly. But. And there's. Let's just. Do we want to count the people that are dead?
Robyn Dixon
I know.
Gisele Bryant
Andre Harrell.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
Kim Porter. Right. I'm gonna go all the way back to Heavy D.
Robyn Dixon
Right. Anyone that.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Cause Heavy D was in that.
Gisele Bryant
Christopher Williams was almost dead. No.
Robyn Dixon
Albie Shore.
Gisele Bryant
Albie Shore was almost dead.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
The one that was. Yes, yes.
Robyn Dixon
Kim Porter's.
Diet Coke Narrator
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Gisele Bryant
Albie Shore. Tupac.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah. Yeah. Biggie. Biggie.
Gisele Bryant
It's.
Robyn Dixon
It's a lot.
Gisele Bryant
It's a lot. It's a lot.
Robyn Dixon
And it. And it's like. It's. If he didn't directly have something to do with it, like, his just. His energy, his being, his just.
Gisele Bryant
Ugh. The energy is suspect. It's somebody that you never want your children around.
Robyn Dixon
No.
Gisele Bryant
Little boys or girls.
Robyn Dixon
No. And then speaking of children, he's in a bathroom with his child shooting someone.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. And he's in. What do you call them things. A freak off. Was supposedly one of his children. Yes. It's all very bad. Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
I do have. I do want to defend him on one thing. Okay. Because people didn't like where they saw the footage of him walking the streets, if, you know, Harlem, and shaking people's hands and give people hugs. And then he got in the car and was like, can I get some hand sanitizer? Or, you know, I feel like I.
Gisele Bryant
Gotta wash my body eight times.
Robyn Dixon
Like, wash the street off of me.
Gisele Bryant
Whatever.
Robyn Dixon
I'm not mad at him for that.
Gisele Bryant
I was disgusted. I was furious.
Robyn Dixon
You were mad at him.
Gisele Bryant
I was. I was mad.
Robyn Dixon
Wanting hand sanitizer.
Gisele Bryant
No, I'm not. Get your hand sanitizer because it's Covid.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
I was mad at his attitude about. Wasn't that he. It wasn't. It wasn't. Wash your hands. Sure. But you're. So you said it in a way that you felt like you were highly better than these people.
Robyn Dixon
Well, yes. Yeah. I mean, it definitely felt like he was. It was in a. Not a judgmental type way, but. Yeah, but kind of like ill. Like, it felt like it was directed towards the people themselves. But I'm just saying he could very well be a germaphobe. Like, you know, I. Anytime I shake somebody's hand, I'm reaching in my purse and putting my hand sanitizer on.
Gisele Bryant
But you don't feel like you're better than that person.
Robyn Dixon
No.
Gisele Bryant
No. You're just a germaphobe.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
And you live with a germaphobe.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
So that's always going through your mind. Right. He spoke on it like, I'm. Let me tell you something. When that happened, mind you, I think he's killed everyone under the sun. Allegedly.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
That was worse to me than being potentially a murderer. That was because that said to me, like, oh, you really think that you are better. Higher.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
On a different plane Than everyone else.
Robyn Dixon
Right. Well, yeah, of course he feels that.
Gisele Bryant
Way, and I have a problem with that.
Robyn Dixon
But about that part, what was worse, more so, was using those people for a publicity stunt. Totally. To try to look good or try to change the narrative or try to get them on his side to go and, you know, oh, I'm with the people. Let me take pictures.
Gisele Bryant
Yes.
Robyn Dixon
So that they'll have my back. That, I think, is worse than all of it.
Gisele Bryant
And you went into the hood for that.
Robyn Dixon
Right?
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
That you haven't been in in so long because you're seeing stuff that's not even there anymore.
Gisele Bryant
I don't understand why you're having yourself recorded. I don't understand. I'm confused about the videographer. If I'm the videographer, I'm like, dude, do you really want the world to see anyone to see this?
Robyn Dixon
To see this?
Gisele Bryant
Because this is horrible. Right. I mean, the videographer gotta do their job, but, you know, and imagine what.
Robyn Dixon
They didn't allow the videographer to record.
Gisele Bryant
And nothing. It seemed.
Robyn Dixon
No, I mean, think about, like, so when the police raided his hotel room, they found a bunch of drugs. You know what I'M saying. So I'm sure he was, you know, in there doing the drugs all day. Yeah, Doing whatever and saying so. Oh, I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that he did he was not allowed to record.
Gisele Bryant
And you're recording conversations with your lawyer, right? What, like it just make it make sense.
Robyn Dixon
Right?
Gisele Bryant
Make it make sense.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
Well, he would think.
Robyn Dixon
He knew he was going down, though.
Gisele Bryant
You could tell. Oh, yeah, he knew he was. It was. It was a rap. But you would think that he. This man has amassed billions of dollars self made.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
You would think that you'd have more sense than to have a someone recording everything you're doing and saying, right, Player.
Robyn Dixon
Especially if that videographer was like a feeling. So supposedly that one was filling in for, like, the main one. So, like, you barely know this guy and you over here just.
Gisele Bryant
Just talking crazy, reckless. Right.
Robyn Dixon
Whoo.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah, that was a lot.
Robyn Dixon
He. He's a piece of shit. He's extremely manipulative and, you know, consistently on a power trip. Yeah. And he's where he should be. Although I feel like he wasn't really charged properly or whatever.
Gisele Bryant
Hey, what up, y'?
DJ Envy
All?
Gisele Bryant
It's DJ Envy.
DJ Envy
And the holidays are here. The time of year that's all about connecting with loved ones in person or over the phone. In fact, hearing someone's voice can evoke a similar emotional response as a hug. And while most of us can hop on a video chat to really bring that connection to life, using tech isn't easy for everyone, especially some of the older folk in our lives. AT&T has been doing something special here. To help. They offer digital literacy workshops that help older adults learn how to use technology to do things most of us take for granted, like video conferencing and sharing photos. Take Nancy Shand. She joined one of AT&T's workshops to learn how to video chat. For the first time this holiday season, Nancy won't just be hearing about family gatherings. She'll be a part of them. Sharing stories, opening presents, and making memories all through a screen. Nobody should have to go through the holiday season alone. So be sure to connect and stay connected to your loved ones this holiday season.
Robyn Dixon
Connecting changes everything.
Gisele Bryant
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Gisele Bryant
And I don't want to get deep into it because it's very sad. The whole Rob Reiner and his wife that passed away tragically that were murdered and it's looking like all signs pointing to their son who had been struggling with addiction. And that's very sad. So we'll put that over here but then we have a person that lives at the White House.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
That decided to give his commentary on.
Robyn Dixon
Disgusting.
Gisele Bryant
The matter.
Robyn Dixon
Yes. Disgusting.
Gisele Bryant
So a part of me felt like when. So we're talking about Trump, who decided to give his two cents about who and what he thinks Rob Reiner is.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
After he was murdered.
Gisele Bryant
After he was murdered by his son, tragically.
Donald Trump
Well, I wasn't a fan of his at all. He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned. He said he liked. He knew it was false. In fact, it's the exact opposite that I was a friend of Russia, controlled by Russia. You know, it was the Russia hoax. He was one of the people behind it. I think he hurt himself in career wise. He became like a deranged person. Trump derangement syndrome. So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all in any way, shape or form. I thought he was very bad for our country. Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
So my thoughts after, as I'm reading what he tweeted was, is he just doing this for a reaction? Cuz there's no way that you really feel the way that you have said. Right. Are you doing this for a reaction? Are you doing this for like clickbait? Are you doing this for people could be like, oh, my God. And then they'll forget about Epstein. Like, why are you doing this?
Robyn Dixon
Right. Why are you even commenting?
Gisele Bryant
Why are you saying anything if you.
Robyn Dixon
Can'T say, you know, I'm sorry, you know, thoughts and prayers to the family. This is a tragedy. Why are you saying anything?
Gisele Bryant
Why are you saying. So do we think it's for. Let's forget about Epstein?
Robyn Dixon
No. I think he is mentally deranged. Like, I really do.
Gisele Bryant
Well, I didn't. Okay.
Robyn Dixon
My second thought was, I think that's a narcissist. I think that's a sign of a narcissist. Like this man was murdered and Trump made his murder about him. About him.
Gisele Bryant
Yes.
Robyn Dixon
You know, and took that opportunity. I think he's mentally deranged. I think he does have dementia.
Gisele Bryant
Yes.
Robyn Dixon
I think he's not in his right mind.
Gisele Bryant
I did feel like it was a dementia. Allegedly. By no means is anybody at the White House going to cop to him having dementia.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
So that's allegedly. And he gonna act like he's fine till the day he drops dead.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
But it was very dementia esque. It was in my mind.
Robyn Dixon
But it's also on brand for him. You know, he's always been. He's always had a very low moral compass.
Gisele Bryant
Right.
Robyn Dixon
So he's always said things. Really not had a lot of compassionate. In a lot of cases when people have, you know, suffered whatever losses or, you know, tragedies or anything. And so he's not a compassionate person. But then I think if there is dementia going on, it's just making it even worse. Yeah. And it's. It's really affecting his. His. His judgment.
Gisele Bryant
Yes.
Robyn Dixon
You know, but regardless, like, somebody has to say, enough is enough.
Gisele Bryant
It's disgusting.
Robyn Dixon
And I know a lot of Republicans, some MAGA people included, have. Have criticized him for these comments. They don't like it. They don't support it. A lot of people have spoken up about that. But it's just teaching our. What are we teaching everyone? What are we teaching the people behind him? What are we teaching our kids? Like, this is enough. This is.
Gisele Bryant
It's. Enough is enough. Hopefully 2026 will be better. I don't even know what that means, but hopefully it'll be better.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah. And we're not even a whole year in. No. And I feel like every day or every week, it's just something that. It just makes your jaw drop and you're like. When it. Like, where's the bottom?
Gisele Bryant
Right. No, I felt like we hit it. That was like, whoa. And again, he needs to deflect. He doubled down on it. And he needs to deflect from Epstein, but I'll leave it.
Robyn Dixon
And that too. Yes. And which apparently, I didn't know there's a deadline for them to release the files. It's within, like, a few days. Did you know that?
Gisele Bryant
No. So if they don't release it, then they can't release it. I don't know.
Robyn Dixon
So there's like, Let me see. Deadline to release Epstein files. The key deadline for releasing Jeffrey Epstein related files is December 19, set by the Epstein Files Transparency act, forcing the government to release documents not withheld for specific legal reasons like national security, blah, blah, blah, blah. So there's a deadline. But what happens if you get to the deadline and they still don't release it?
Gisele Bryant
Child, I don't know.
Robyn Dixon
Epstein files deadline Friday. What DOJ is required to release and what could be withheld.
Gisele Bryant
But I don't actually even need to see any of these files. I already know what it is.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
I already know it's freaking horrible. Nothing in the files is gonna make me be like, oh, yeah, this is it.
Robyn Dixon
Right?
Gisele Bryant
This really makes me think this dude is a piece of shit. Right? Like, nah, I'm already there. Yeah. Already there.
Robyn Dixon
I mean, we've been there.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Robyn Dixon
And And I know it's like, you know, a lot of people watch for entertainment and they. They don't want us to talk about politics. This is not politics. No, we're just talking about a p. Human being. We're not talking about politics. I'm not talking about the Affordable Care Act. I'm not talking about Congress and Senate. I'm talking about a piece of shit that is leading our country. That. That is ridiculous. And I'm sick of it.
Gisele Bryant
Moving on. We want to give congratulations to the Breakfast Club because, you know, we love everyone over there who will exclusively publish video episodes on Netflix.
Robyn Dixon
That is major.
Gisele Bryant
So go on. Charlamagne and Env and Jess and Lauren. Y' all are doing y' all thing.
Robyn Dixon
Yes. That's awesome. And it's so funny because I saw, like, rumors that I don't. Oh, it was some. Some rumors, like Trump was gonna force Charlamagne out because, like, how he did to Jimmy Kimmel.
Gisele Bryant
Yes.
Robyn Dixon
And Charlamagne was gonna be gone because he's outspoken and it's like, yeah, yeah, no, clearly Charlamagne is fine. He's doing big things.
Gisele Bryant
So. And this is with iHeartMedia.
Robyn Dixon
And there's other podcasts. It was like a list of them.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah, it was a bunch of them. I don't have the. I don't have the rest of them in, but I love that.
Robyn Dixon
And my brother in law shout out to Jermaine. He texted me. He was like, are y' all going to Netflix? And I was like, yeah, no, you know, we haven't. Listen, we haven't been invited, but we would love to.
Gisele Bryant
We would love to.
Robyn Dixon
We would love to.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. We'd love the invitation.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
We will show up and show out.
Robyn Dixon
I said, we got to step our game up.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. And I have no problems with that.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
But super excited for just the future of podcasting, you know, and just where it's going.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
We've been doing this. What? This is our five years.
Robyn Dixon
We're. Is this our sixth season?
Gisele Bryant
This is our sixth season, but it's been like five. Five or six years.
Diet Coke Narrator
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Robyn Dixon
We started in 20. It'll be five full years in May 2026.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. So I didn't. I didn't think that podcasting would get to where it is going.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. I didn't see the future of it.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
I just was like, robin, let's get together and let's talk.
Robyn Dixon
But I wonder what it will do for. So if you. So if this is. If this is going to be a wave, if more will Be going to Netflix. Like, what will it do to the audio only portion of podcasting?
Gisele Bryant
Is there.
Robyn Dixon
You know what I mean?
Gisele Bryant
Oh, yeah. Because I heart has the audio only. And so does. Well, all of a.
Robyn Dixon
People who listen are only listening to it to the audio. I mean, I guess it'll still exist because I feel like a lot of people who listen to us, they listen to us while they're driving, while they're, you know, walking or while they're working out. And so, you know, the video portion is not for them. So I guess we can. They can both thrive. I just, I just, I just don't want the move to Netflix to start hurting the audio portion.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Audio only person. I don't.
Gisele Bryant
I doubt that. I doubt that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because some people have. Some people like audiobooks. Yeah. And then some people are readers.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. Okay. I wanted to. Before the holidays, I wanted to talk about these beautiful. I'm gonna say it again, Beautiful new Christmas trees. Okay.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
I saw that Jada Pinkett did one. And then this is. This. I can't find her. The post that she did. And then this is one that's similar. This is a. Oh, this is a. It's like slippery. It's velvet. Oh, Jada's is red.
Robyn Dixon
Okay, so it's.
Gisele Bryant
Hers is red velvet. But this is very similar to it. But this is like a chocolate looking color.
Robyn Dixon
So are there like. No.
Gisele Bryant
So are there no leaves on it?
Robyn Dixon
No branches?
Gisele Bryant
I don't know. Well, there's nothing you can't put. There's no ornaments on the tree. It's just like draped in a velvet, obviously fabric, and it's gorgeous. To me, that's a genius idea.
Robyn Dixon
I mean, it's so. It's different, it's unique and it's probably super simple.
Gisele Bryant
Super. I mean, so I guess this tree right here is their other traditional, traditional one. So freaking pretty.
Robyn Dixon
So this is the thing. You've seen this.
Gisele Bryant
I've seen two of these.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah, I've seen two of these thus far. Two different colors and. And then, you know, people really get into. Because I know the Kardashians get into. Speaking of the Kardashians, Khloe sent me a little perfume. Her perfume came out and it smells good.
Robyn Dixon
Oh, good.
Gisele Bryant
I'm a perfume girl. Okay, Very nice. Listen, I mix. Let me tell you about going back to the gays. So I, you know, I mix perfume. So I might have like three on mixed at one time.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
So one of them came up to me and said I shouldn't Call them the gays. Cause that's not right. I'm sorry. I always think about Andy, Andy Cohen. I'm sorry, but. Cause I don't want generalized people. Yeah, but one of the people that was at the gay wedding wedding, who is gay, came up to me and was like, giselle. Oh my gosh, you smell amazing. I said, oh, thanks. I have like, I mixed a couple of stuff. He said, what? What exactly? Tell me everything.
Robyn Dixon
He went to the floor.
Gisele Bryant
What is the recipe rundown? It actually was four that night. I had to run down all four of the different perfumes I had mixed together because he was not leaving my side until he.
Robyn Dixon
How do you decide what to mix?
Gisele Bryant
Well, I have like. Are they all the same family? Kind of. It's a science to it. So I have like the ones I have like, I don't know, 50 bottles of perfume, but then there's some that just, I know, work together.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
So I pick from those, which could be about 10 of them that work together.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. Wow. So I've added Chloe to that anyway, which smells good. Chloe's. Chloe did a good job. Okay. But let's get back to the Kardashians really quickly. I know that they do, which I think is unique to, like, if you have a bunch of money and you spending a bunch of money, like, stay to your theme. Right. And they wrap their presents in the same wrapping paper, like that's theme related to their life.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
So Kim's is like paper the color of her house, which is all the colors of her car and her plane.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
So I think that's so unique. Yeah, yeah, I'm down with that. Chris's I think, was like a bunch of little pictures of her.
Robyn Dixon
Oh, really?
Gisele Bryant
On paper.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Oh, that's cute.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah, that's cute. But so, so they, they're. They are. I find that they are very detail oriented people.
Gisele Bryant
Yes.
Robyn Dixon
And so they, they. Everything is like meticulously on theme planned and even to the point, like how they organize their homes and stuff, like.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah, yeah. No, that's interesting. It's very nice.
Robyn Dixon
I mean, it's nothing I would ever think of getting like custom wrapping paper.
Gisele Bryant
I. I wouldn't either. Right. I wouldn't either. But I'm not mad at it. I think it's. There's organization to it, which I can appreciate. Yeah. Speaking of Kardashians, did you know that before Robert Kardashian dated Kris Jenner, okay. He was dating Priscilla Presley?
Robyn Dixon
No.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. I read this little article.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
And they were very much Together and very much into each other. But Elvis was still alive.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
And Priscilla was, like, anytime Robert would stay over, like, Priscilla was, like, scared that, like, when Elvis called, she wanted to act like nobody was in the house. Like, she wanted to, like, you know, act like she's, like, just home waiting for him to call. That was a problem. Clearly. Okay, but can you imagine if Robert and Priscilla got married? Mm. Kim, Khloe, Kris, all them. They wouldn't be here.
Robyn Dixon
They wouldn't be here.
Gisele Bryant
What?
Robyn Dixon
They wouldn't be here.
Gisele Bryant
So should we blame this several decades of Kardashian on Priscilla Presley?
Robyn Dixon
On Priscilla Presley or on Elvis Presley because she was worried about.
Gisele Bryant
Blame it on Elvis. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I think we should blame this on Elvis. Yes.
Diet Coke Narrator
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Gisele Bryant
I mean.
Robyn Dixon
Cause he was cock blocking, right?
Gisele Bryant
He was cock blocking. He was.
Robyn Dixon
So now we have the Kardashian. We have all of the Kardashians.
Gisele Bryant
Yes.
Robyn Dixon
That have.
Gisele Bryant
And all of their lives and all of their stories. But. But you just never know what's gonna happen in life.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. No, no.
Robyn Dixon
Right. That's so true. Like, one little different move. Like, you know, when you meet someone, like, okay, you might have met them, but, like, what if you turned left that day instead of right?
Gisele Bryant
Yes.
Robyn Dixon
You wouldn't have met that person. You wouldn't have met your soulmate. Whatever. Speaking again about the Kardashians, did you see. So Paul Pierce, who's a former NBA player, he's like an all star hall of Famer or whatever, he has a podcast, and he is always saying something crazy out his mouth. But he did say something that I agree with, and I think I've actually said this. He said he thinks he blames Kim Kardashian on, like, the way a lot of women look today. Agreed. Yes. And. But the way he said. I can't remember what he's saying, but it was. And I believe I've said that before. And so when he said that, I was like, okay, good.
Gisele Bryant
I'm not. Not the only one.
Robyn Dixon
Only one that feels that way. And to hear it from a man's perspective, totally. It totally drives it home. Because, you know, they're the ones that I feel like women, we look in the mirror and we see something different. Like, we don't really, a lot of times see our natural beauty, but men, I think, appreciate women's natural beauty, and they consistently tell us they appreciate our natural beauty.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
But when, you know, someone like Paul Pierce is like, yeah, I blame all the way these women look these days on Kim Kardashian.
Gisele Bryant
It's like, yeah, but I mean, don't get me wrong, Kim is beautiful. Right? But she had to be big. Bbl.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
And. But now I don't think. I think she had it taken out or now I don't think her butt is that big. I don't know, it's still Anyway, big. The BBL's are over, or it's not.
Robyn Dixon
As much of a trend or it seems people are scaling back.
Gisele Bryant
It seems totally. Yes, but I think that's all Kim generated, right? I think, yeah. Her whole look, her whole aesthetic. All of it. Yeah, very much so. You go down to Miami, everybody looks the same.
Robyn Dixon
Everyone looks like him.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
So, I mean, because it's weird, because I don't remember a time like before Kim Kardashian was famous. I don't remember everyone looking like that. Do you know what I mean? Totally. Like there was not that the car, the aesthetic that Kim and the Kardashians have, it didn't exist. And now it's like everybody looks like Kim Kardashian.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong, she's beautiful, but like, let Kim be Kim, right?
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
Like, you know, you might look really good as how God brought you here.
Robyn Dixon
Right, Exactly.
Gisele Bryant
But anyway, I digress.
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Robyn Dixon
And join. Today I saw the funniest thing. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Yes. I just saw a clip, so I don't have all the context, but I was cracking up. So apparently Brittany and Angie on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City had some type of, you know, I don't know, back and forth, back and forth. Okay. And I guess this was the previous season. Angie told her she had high body count hair. So that turned into like a thing where people like, loved Angie saying that I had high body count hair.
Gisele Bryant
What does that look like?
Robyn Dixon
I guess it's like frizz. Like think of like the old, like rock and roll, heavy metal girls that like, you know, their hair was all.
Gisele Bryant
Like frizzed like that hair. Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Okay, so she had high body count hair.
Gisele Bryant
I'm not mad at it. That's a read, right? Okay, that's a read.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
So on this season, Britney, somehow it's revealed Britney trademarked high body count hair.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
Although Angie is the one that said it.
Gisele Bryant
Ooh, love that. Right now that's how you get a bitch back.
Robyn Dixon
Exactly.
Gisele Bryant
No, I'mma trademark what you said about me.
Robyn Dixon
Me.
Gisele Bryant
That reminds me of Non Mother Factor. Do you remember that? Yes, that was Evelyn and Tammy.
Robyn Dixon
Oh, Evelyn. But did she. But Evelyn. I mean, who trademarked it?
Gisele Bryant
No one. But I remember she might have. I think Tammy started using it or something. Like Tammy took away the power from. Cause it was Evelyn who said it. But I think Tammy did something that like, took away the power. Right?
Robyn Dixon
No, but also, now that we're talking about this, remember Deborah Ashley's friend called Eddie Happy Eddie, and now he has a whole business. He trademarked Happy Eddie. Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. I'm not mad at it.
Robyn Dixon
Right?
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. Go Eddie.
Robyn Dixon
Right. So it's like the. You know, you use your words against someone and they take your words and trademark it. I was cracking up. I said, oh, she got her.
Gisele Bryant
I love that.
Robyn Dixon
She got her.
Gisele Bryant
That's so funny. That's good. That's good. I love it. Okay, so in Japan, I want to show you this. They have this black apple. You know, I'm into apples. I would eat an apple. I ain't telling apples. No, I would eat an apple every day. But really. And I used to.
Robyn Dixon
What kind?
Gisele Bryant
Do you have a. I don't really have. Oh, I like the Honey Crisp, but I don't really have a. I don't like the orange ones. They have to. I don't like the Gala or not the. Not orange. Did I say orange?
Robyn Dixon
Yeah, green.
Gisele Bryant
Not the green ones.
Robyn Dixon
No, no green ones.
Gisele Bryant
No, they're too sour. I like the. The Honeycrisp.
Robyn Dixon
I only like, like Pink Ladies.
Gisele Bryant
I like Pink lady, but some of them make me violently sick.
Robyn Dixon
What?
Gisele Bryant
Yeah, that's happened to me three times. Some apples, like. Okay, so obviously you wash the apple before you. Yes. But some of them have, like, some, like, either a pesticide or something in it, and. And I've gotten, like, horribly sick. Wow. Yeah. And it's. And the first time it happened to me, I was like, oh, Dad, I guess I ate some bad fish or something, right? No, it was the apple. And so the second time, I was, like, trying to connect the dots. I was like, it might be the apples, but I still didn't believe it. So I kept eating apples. That third dot did me in. I said, oh, it's them damn apples.
Robyn Dixon
So do you. So have you pulled back from eating apples?
Gisele Bryant
Yes. I don't eat apples anymore. Oh, yeah, totally. It's funny, because one day I was sick and, like, Ashley peeped it before I did. She was like, did you eat an apple? And I was like, I did. She was like, that's what it is. So, yeah. Ashley. Ashley. Don't miss a beat. Okay?
Robyn Dixon
That's crazy.
Gisele Bryant
Anyway, there's black diamond apples.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
They're the rare apple with a jet black hue. So the apple is totally black on the outside, and its taste is sweeter than honey, and its crispiness is unmatched, they say. And you can only find them in Tibet. Oh, I want to try this out.
Robyn Dixon
Are these natural or are these some somehow genetically modified?
Gisele Bryant
It don't matter. I want one.
Robyn Dixon
You want one?
Gisele Bryant
Yes. I'll get. I'll. I'll risk getting sick for this.
Robyn Dixon
You're gonna get sick for that? No, you're definitely gonna get sick for that.
Gisele Bryant
When I say sick, you're throwing up in diarrhea at the same time. Like, real sick.
Robyn Dixon
And you want.
Gisele Bryant
I'll do it.
Robyn Dixon
I'll do it. You might not come back to us after you eat this black diamond apple. No, thank you.
Gisele Bryant
I think this is amazing.
Robyn Dixon
No, I mean, it's intriguing.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. Okay, so there's.
Robyn Dixon
But, like, I need. Where. How does it become that way?
Gisele Bryant
I don't know. Maybe. Maybe the soil in Tibet is rich with black diamonds and it creates black apples.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. On the outside.
Robyn Dixon
You go get one.
Gisele Bryant
I was watching something on Instagram, and there's a new apple out of Trader Joe's.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
And the inside supposedly tastes like candy. Oh, I might risk that.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
But this.
Robyn Dixon
Have you had cotton candy? Grapes?
Gisele Bryant
I have.
Robyn Dixon
You don't like them, do you? I mean, the kids. Carter likes them.
Gisele Bryant
Grace likes them.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
And it's dumb. I'm like, this don't taste like cotton candy. But you.
Robyn Dixon
I think it does taste like cotton candy.
Gisele Bryant
I don't.
Robyn Dixon
And you like cotton candy, right?
Gisele Bryant
I love cotton candy.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah. So.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Surprised you don't like it. I think it tastes like cotton candy.
Gisele Bryant
All right, well, I want to give you rules.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
Rich families teach their daughters.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. And let's see whether or not I was taught this. Yes, you were taught this. Or if I'm teaching my children.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
A man who can't lead himself can't lead a family.
Robyn Dixon
Okay, that makes sense.
Gisele Bryant
Makes sense, right? A man who is intimidated by you will try to humble you. Now, that is true.
Robyn Dixon
That makes sense. I mean, not that I was taught.
Gisele Bryant
That, but you Weren't taught that, but we. We've lived that. Right. Like when. When he feels like he. When he's. When he feels insecure to you.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
He'll try to humble you.
Robyn Dixon
I mean, that hasn't happened to me, but I.
Gisele Bryant
Has happened to me.
Robyn Dixon
I see it. You know what I mean? Like, I. I see how that happens.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So a man's gotta be totally secure, I feel.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah. Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Never confuse attention with intention.
Robyn Dixon
Hmm.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. True.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Because he could be giving you all this attention.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
But it could be because he's giving you the attention. Okay.
Robyn Dixon
Attention.
Gisele Bryant
I'm gonna say I'm gonna start over.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
A man could be giving you a bunch of attention.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Because he's feeling guilty about cheating on.
Robyn Dixon
You and he's giving attention to other people as well.
Gisele Bryant
Yes.
Robyn Dixon
And has no intention to do anything.
Gisele Bryant
With anyone to be committed. Yes.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Did we just break that shit down?
Robyn Dixon
We do.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
Yep.
Gisele Bryant
If he can't provide, he'll try to control. Huh.
Robyn Dixon
Okay. I mean, I feel like that's.
Gisele Bryant
I think that's. I think that's some. Yeah. I think that again, men have to feel secure. And they have to feel secure also, like, kind of like financially in order for them to be in a good place for a relationship.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. Okay. I think I got one more. A man who loves you will give you clarity. A man who uses you will give you confusion. Yeah. I think that's women too.
Robyn Dixon
Right.
Gisele Bryant
Because I do that all the time. Right. Because I will confuse your ass.
Robyn Dixon
Right. Let's just replace the word man with. With a person.
Gisele Bryant
Yes, Yes, I. When I don't have some good intentions, I will give you confusion. And I will be happy. But I don't. I don't play games. I just. I'm very direct and it's terrible. Okay. So my directness, I think sometimes it gets taken for a game, you know, and they probably.
Robyn Dixon
Your directness is probably actually more attract. Like, it makes them more attractive.
Gisele Bryant
Right.
Robyn Dixon
And they'd be like.
Gisele Bryant
And I'll be like, no, I told you, don't call me. Lose my number. And they're like, haha. Giselle. Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Okay. Like, no, I'm for real.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. Don't build a man. You'll become his mother, not his woman. That is very true.
Robyn Dixon
That is very true.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. So every man I've helped, this is. This is men that I was just dating, we would break up and then he would marry the next woman that he, you know, became involved with. But I have helped. I helped. I helped Every man with whatever business or whatever. Terrible story. Why am I reading this? This is a story of my life. Right.
Robyn Dixon
So. So to piggyback on that, so I'll, you know, I might say something to Juan, and it's about something he needs to do, right?
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
And he'd be like, what? Stop. Stop trying to be my mother. I'm like, I'm not trying to be a mother. Like, I'm just trying to. I'm just telling you what you need to do.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
So then fast forward, he'll come to me and be like, oh, can you help me with such and such and such. I'd be like, I don't want to be your mother. Like, no, because I'm not your mother.
Gisele Bryant
I don't want to be your mother. I like that.
Robyn Dixon
But it's kind of like there is a there. There is like a thin line or a gr. Between with spouses. Between. Like, okay, I'm coming to you as your spouse, but how do you make it not feel like I'm coming. I'm coming to you as, like, your mother. You know what I mean? Because, like, I don't know, there's. I think that line overlaps a little bit. Like, some things that a mother might tell you. Well, your spice spouse might tell you the same thing.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
You know?
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. And I think it's like, tone, maybe.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah, maybe.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. Cuz if, in my mind, I feel like a mother's tone is different from, like, a wife's. Right. Yeah. But so are you speaking to him the way that you speak to your boys? No.
Robyn Dixon
Oh, okay. No, it's just something. He's just some, you know, they just pick and choose when they want.
Gisele Bryant
Pick and choose when they want us.
Robyn Dixon
To help and when they don't.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
When they want us to mind our business or when they want us to.
Gisele Bryant
Robyn. Be up in the business. Be up in the business.
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Robyn Dixon
I'm not changing. Okay.
Gisele Bryant
This is the last one. A man who doesn't fear losing you will never respect you now. I believe that.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. He's got to be scared that you're gonna walk out that door at any given minute.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
So. Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
True.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. All right. That is our end of the year relationship advice lessons.
Robyn Dixon
Sure.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. Cause 2026 is coming in with a bang. I think I had. Do you have any intentions for 2026?
Robyn Dixon
No. It's, like, snuck up on me.
Gisele Bryant
I know, right?
Robyn Dixon
Yeah. Okay, so I will tell you. I do need to get my ass in the gym and lift some weights. My Freaking ass is so flat. My hips are gone.
Gisele Bryant
When have you had a big ass?
Robyn Dixon
I've never had a big ass.
Diet Coke Narrator
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Robyn Dixon
But I.
Gisele Bryant
So what are we talking about here? But it's flat.
Robyn Dixon
No, I'm telling you, it's like.
Gisele Bryant
Hasn't it flat?
Robyn Dixon
Flat. No, it's not. It's not been, like, flat.
Gisele Bryant
It's not flat.
Robyn Dixon
It is flat.
Gisele Bryant
So what happened to the meat that was there?
Robyn Dixon
It disappeared with the. With the. The GLP one.
Gisele Bryant
Oh, that's what happens.
Robyn Dixon
You.
Gisele Bryant
Your booty. Your booty goes.
Robyn Dixon
Well, you just. I lost £20.
Gisele Bryant
Oh, you have?
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Go, Robin, go. So are we done?
Robyn Dixon
Yeah, pretty much. I'm still. I'm gonna finish it out for one more month.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
Or I might know. Actually, I'm gonna start doing, like, every two weeks. Instead of taking the injection once a week, I'm gonna take it every two weeks.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
And then see what happens.
Gisele Bryant
Okay, very nice.
Robyn Dixon
So I lost 20 pounds, but, like, my. No, I never had a big ass. But, like, I have nothing back there.
Gisele Bryant
Nobody. You don't need nothing back there.
Robyn Dixon
I don't. I don't want, like, a big booty, but I need a shape.
Gisele Bryant
You need a little something.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah, I just. I don't have a shape. So, like, my hips are gone and my little bit of acid gone. So 20, 26, I'm in the gym.
Gisele Bryant
You're getting it back.
Robyn Dixon
Lifting weights. Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Or you can just eat something to make it. Make it go there.
Robyn Dixon
No, I don't want that.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
So I want muscle. I want a toned ass. I don't want a fat ass.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. This has nothing to do with that.
Robyn Dixon
So.
Gisele Bryant
My children keep telling me that they want. Because I asked them what they want for Christmas. They just want money. Yeah. I don't want to do that. Right.
Robyn Dixon
That feels weird. Just to give them money.
Gisele Bryant
That feels like it's not Christmas.
Robyn Dixon
Like, you want them to, like, open gifts and stuff.
Gisele Bryant
Yes. I give them money all the time. Like, make it. Make it special.
Robyn Dixon
I know.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. But I'm having a hard time.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah. I feel like that's what happens as they get older. It's just. And then that's. It's like the. You know, the. The magic of Christmas is gone.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah.
Robyn Dixon
So I. Christmas should just be about little kids. I've always felt like Christmas should be about not little kids, but, like, it should just be about the kids.
Gisele Bryant
No, it should not.
Robyn Dixon
I think so.
Gisele Bryant
Why?
Robyn Dixon
Because isn't that what it was about, like, anyway?
Gisele Bryant
Jesus.
Robyn Dixon
Yes.
Gisele Bryant
Okay.
Robyn Dixon
Baby Jesus.
Gisele Bryant
Very true. By the way, speaking of mammoth Jesus. Y' all gonna think this is crazy, but I've been watching the Chosen. Do you know about the Chosen? No. It's a show on Netflix.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
It's about Jesus. Okay. And he's with his disciples and apostles and all that. And at first I started watching, I was like, this is gonna be dumb, because I know the Bible. I know the story of Jesus. Right. I'm all in.
Robyn Dixon
Really.
Gisele Bryant
I'm doubt in. Yes. And it's. It's lightweight, and it's not like. Cause, you know, time back then, you know, things were a little gory. It's no goriness. I absolutely love it. As a matter of fact, I recommend it.
Robyn Dixon
So what makes it different than. What's the one that Mel Gibson did?
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. Cause that was about the crucifixion and all that. We haven't gotten to that. I haven't gotten to that yet. So this is maybe, like. I don't know how many seasons are out, but, like, I haven't gotten there.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
But it's like the Sermon on the Mount and, like, in the beginning, when Jesus was, like, doing all the miracles and all that, and he was kind of, like, getting his crew together.
Robyn Dixon
Yeah.
Gisele Bryant
So, yeah, Jesus had jokes and everything. I'm, like, going on Jesus. Jesus was amazing. So, yeah, I recommend it.
Robyn Dixon
Okay.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. All right, cool. So check it out.
Robyn Dixon
Check it out.
Gisele Bryant
And I guess my kids are getting nothing because I'm not giving them any money. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna trick them. So on Christmas Day, they're not getting any because the money is just, like. What do you call? Not a cash app.
Robyn Dixon
I know. Gazelle. Right? Transferred to their account.
Gisele Bryant
I'm gonna wait till next day, the 26th.
Robyn Dixon
Well, how about put it. Wrap it in a box, huh? Like, just wrap the money put. Okay, so, like, so get cash.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah, cash. That's so hard. And then that means I gotta go to the bank. Don't. I got time.
Robyn Dixon
I know.
Gisele Bryant
Yeah. It's not happening anyway. But you.
Robyn Dixon
You don't want to waste time or your money getting stuff that they don't want.
Gisele Bryant
No. Very true. Very true. I don't know. I'll figure it out. I will definitely figure it out. But in the meantime, don't ever forget to live your life either reasonable or shady. Or both. Merry Christmas.
Robyn Dixon
Bye.
Gisele Bryant
Merry Christmas. Happy. No, not happy New Year yet. Just Merry Christmas.
Robyn Dixon
Not yet.
Gisele Bryant
Okay. We wish you a merry Christmas we wish you a merry Christmas we wish you a merry Christmas and a happy New Year Yay. Reasonably shady. Is a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network.
Robyn Dixon
For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Gisele Bryant
And you can connect with us on social media @Robyn Dixon 10 Gisele Bryant and reasonably Shady.
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This is an iHeart podcast.
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Guaranteed Human.
Air Date: December 22, 2025
Hosts: Robyn Dixon & Gisele Bryant
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts / Black Effect
This lively end-of-year episode of "Reasonably Shady" focuses on personal reflections, current pop culture controversies, viral moments, and relationship wisdom. Hosts Robyn and Gisele bring their signature blend of humor and candor to everything from Christmas chaos and reality TV shade, to dissecting major documentaries and critiquing public figures and societal trends—and yes, the Kardashians come up more than once! Their ultimate message is clear: Don't be a "POS" (Piece of Shit), whether it's in your relationships, friendships, or how you show up in the world.
“That was worse to me than being potentially a murderer. That was because that said to me, like, oh, you really think that you are better. Higher. On a different plane Than everyone else.”
— Gisele Bryant, on Diddy, (17:19)
“This man was murdered and Trump made his murder about him.”
— Robyn Dixon, (25:21)
“I blame all the way these women look these days on Kim Kardashian.”
— Paul Pierce (via Robyn), (37:13)
“Don’t build a man. You’ll become his mother, not his woman.”
— Gisele Bryant, (50:13)
“A man who loves you will give you clarity. A man who uses you will give you confusion.”
— Gisele Bryant, (49:24)
Playful, irreverent, sometimes biting but always authentic, Gisele and Robyn trade real-life wisdom, gentle shade, and cultural critique with the comfort and comedy of a long-running friendship. Their takes are honest, unfiltered, and often laugh-out-loud funny—using personal stories and viral moments to reflect on bigger truths (and keep it all delightfully shady).