The Breakfast Club BEST OF - Bow Wow & B2K, And Iyanla Vanzant interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club "BEST OF": Bow Wow & B2K, Iyanla Vanzant Interview
April 8, 2026 | The Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This “Best Of” episode of The Breakfast Club spotlights fan-favorite segments and interviews, blending listener call-ins, candid discussions on roommate culture, and in-depth conversations with celebrity guests. Highlights include a fun and reflective conversation with Bow Wow & B2K about brotherhood, healing, and their reunion tour, as well as a deep, wisdom-filled interview with spiritual teacher Iyanla Vanzant about her new show, spiritual hygiene, and personal responsibility.

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Key Segments & Insights

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1. Listener Call-Ins & “Get It Off Your Chest”

(02:40–11:41)

• Listeners share personal updates, work-related frustrations, and shout-outs, setting an interactive and supportive tone for the morning.
  • Tomorrow from Hampton, CT gets personal about losing her mom, navigating fear as a grandmother, and balancing celebration with grief.
    • “I just want to be able to enjoy the day, but I just feel like everything is closed union.” (04:09/Caller - Tomorrow)
  • The crew responds with empathy, uplifting her with motivational quotes.
    • Charlamagne: “Don’t let your worry outweigh your faith.” (04:44)
  • Calvina, a CNA, expresses frustration about lack of compassion in healthcare:
    • “If you don’t care, don’t be a nurse, don’t be a teacher… If you don’t have empathy, don’t go in those fields.” (06:10/Charlamagne Tha God)

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2. The Reality of Roommate Living & Financial Pressures

(11:42–20:35)

• Hosts debate the resurgence of roommates and “adult shacking up” due to the housing crisis and rising rent.

  • DJ Envy contextualizes:

    • “People can’t afford it. So what they’re doing is they’re renting out rooms, sharing common spaces...” (11:57)

  • Charlamagne speculates that economic pressures may encourage alternative living and relationship arrangements.

    • “The economy is really gonna force…more polygamous relationships.” (12:29)

  • Listeners call in to share their living situations, address stigmas, and highlight challenges like privacy, safety, mental illness, and the impact on dating.

  • Notable Quote:

    • “If you got four or five roommates, right?… Four or five is crazy.” (17:10/DJ Envy & Charlamagne Tha God)

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3. Interview: Bow Wow & B2K Reunion

(20:45–44:13)

The Road Back to Brotherhood and Touring

• How B2K Reunited:

  • Lil Fizz describes reconnecting with Omarion and mending old wounds:
    • “We brought the guys into the fold…used to start, you know, mending a lot of the broken parts.” (21:59/Lil Fizz)
  • Raz B highlights the journey through counseling and accountability:
    • “For me, I had to take accountability for my actions. Right? And learn how to regulate my emotions.” (24:51/Raz B)
  • Omarion emphasizes maturity:
    • “You get to a space as an adult where losses feel like lessons instead of losses.” (23:54/Omarion)

• How Bow Wow Got Involved:

  • The reconnection began at the BET Awards, with Raz advocating for brotherhood and Bow Wow acknowledging the nostalgia and business sense in touring together:
    • “It just made sense. The time is now. They’re celebrating. I’m celebrating 25 [years] in the game…let’s do it now.” (29:13/Bow Wow)

• On Healing and Group Dynamics:

  • Hosts probe old wounds—like tabloid drama and personal rifts in the group.
  • Fizz and Omarion both express how open dialogue, even “boxing in the closet,” was key for real resolution:
    • “Once the conversation is had, even if it’s a boxing in the closet…once that’s done, it’s done.” (27:43/Lil Fizz)
  • Bow Wow reflects on the evolution from “wilding” to focused maturity and cherishing legacy:
    • “When you understand that, you’re gonna move like one. And that’s why you ain’t seen me…just been focused.” (32:21/Bow Wow)

• Memorable Moments:

  • Charlamagne jokes about the group’s chemistry and famous memes, keeping the tone light.
    • “What do you and O argue about, like, who got the best baby hairs?” (26:08/Charlamagne Tha God)

• On Performing and Authenticity:

  • Bow Wow: “It’s not even about the money. This tour is just fun to do it with them. It’s a full circle moment.” (37:43)
  • Omarion on staying sharp:
    • “First of all, when you dope at something, you don’t lose it…And trust me, I’ll be in the lab.” (43:33/Omarion)

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4. Donkey of the Day: Houston Man’s Domestic Abuse

(47:53–52:47)

• Charlamagne exposes the story of a Houston man, James Earl Johnson, arrested for holding his disabled wife captive.
  • Emphasizes the importance of simply leaving a partner rather than abusing or controlling.
  • Quote:
    • “Leaving a spouse rather than mistreating them is always the better option.” (51:27/Charlamagne Tha God)

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5. Interview: Iyanla Vanzant on Spiritual Hygiene & Leadership

(53:02–76:10)

Spiritual and Emotional Healing

• New Projects:

  • Iyanla discusses her new show, “The Inside Fix,” and her latest book, “Spiritual Hygiene.”
  • “We went back into our highest rated shows for issues that are going on today…How do we deal with that? How do we address that?” (54:10/Angela Rye)

• On Re-examining Old Wounds:

  • Revisiting past “Fix My Life” episodes to relate them to current challenges like evolving mother-daughter relationships, cancel culture, and holding grudges.

• Lady Balls vs. Testicles: Feminine Power

  • Iyanla explains her concept of “lady balls”—assertive, nurturing, heart-led leadership that differs fundamentally from aggressive masculinity.
    • “Feminine power is assertive. Masculine power is aggressive…Lady balls are how a powerful woman lives in moves, and stands in her power in a way that nourishes, supports, heals, grows other people.” (57:11/Angela Rye)
  • She also discusses confusion between assertiveness and aggression:
    • “Lead with your heart and not with your head. Lady balls don’t come from the crotch. They come from the heart.” (58:32)

• On Leadership:

  • True leadership, she says, is born but must be trained, and at its root is service and vision.
    • “A leader has to have a vision…lead them in that vision in a way that’s whole and healthy for everybody.” (61:08/Angela Rye)

• Spiritual Hygiene Explained:

  • Daily practice clearing mind, heart, and spirit, not just outward appearance or ritual:
    • “Your spirit has to be maintained. Like your teeth…Spiritual hygiene is the daily practice of clearing your mind, your heart, your soul, your inner life so that your outer life can have a different appearance.” (64:30/Angela Rye)
  • Difference between truly praying and just “begging” or ritual without relationship.
    • “Most people beg, they don’t pray…you have to build a relationship [with God].” (65:34)
  • She reaffirms: Honesty, accountability, and integrity are essential for healing and functional relationships.

• Memorable Quotes:

  • “Accountability is a hard concept for a lot of people to grasp.” (70:16/Charlamagne)
  • “Don’t set yourself on fire to keep other people warm.” (70:19/Iyanla)
  • On healing: “People want to intellectualize spirituality…Sometimes you are human. It’s okay.” (71:08)

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6. “Unmarried Marriage” and the Value of Time Apart

(79:40–85:41)

• The crew reacts to Keke Palmer’s comments about preferring not to live with a spouse, sparking stories from callers and hosts about unconventional marriages and personal boundaries.
  • Notable:
    • “When you find that right person, you want to be with that person 24, 7, 365. That’s the beauty of marriage.” (84:55/Charlamagne)
    • Lauren LaRosa highlights that past trauma can shape new relationships and the need for healing before diving in.

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7. Closing Positive Note

(85:47–86:02)

• Charlamagne:
  • “Take action without expecting a reward. Do your best and take the action because you love it, not because you expect a reward.”

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Notable Quotes (with Time Stamps)

• “Don’t let your worry outweigh your faith.” —Charlamagne Tha God (04:44)
• “If you don’t truly care about people and have no empathy, don’t go in those fields.” —Charlamagne Tha God (06:10)
• “The economy is really gonna force more polygamous relationships.” —Charlamagne Tha God (12:29)
• “Losses feel like lessons instead of losses.” —Omarion (23:54)
• “Once the conversation is had, even if it’s boxing in the closet…once that’s done, it’s done.” —Lil Fizz (27:43)
• “Feminine power is assertive…Lady balls are how a powerful woman lives, stands in her power in a way that nourishes, supports, heals, grows other people.” —Iyanla Vanzant (57:11)
• “Tell the truth. Be accountable. Own your stuff.” —Iyanla Vanzant (62:42)
• “Don’t set yourself on fire to keep other people warm.” —Iyanla Vanzant (70:19)
• “Take action without expecting a reward.” —Charlamagne Tha God (85:47)

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Flow & Tone

The episode is infused with the show’s trademark blend of humor, vulnerability, and realness. The hosts create a supportive environment for callers, approach tough topics with sensitivity, and seamlessly balance deep wisdom and playful banter, especially during the interviews with Bow Wow, B2K, and Iyanla Vanzant.

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Listen If…

• You want a fun and honest look into the everyday realities of work, relationships, and friendship in 2026.
• You're interested in how iconic groups like B2K overcome the past to reclaim their legacy—and what it teaches about brotherhood and self-work.
• Insights on healing, spiritual hygiene, and real leadership from one of the most respected voices in personal growth, Iyanla Vanzant, would benefit you.
• You love moments that mix laughter, life lessons, and a bit of nostalgia.

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For more, catch full laughs, real talk, and gems by listening to the episode.

Transcript

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake you up.

[DJ Envy]

Wake that ass up.

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Program your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartradio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake up.

[Omarion]

Wake up.

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This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Hilarious]

Whether you're mad or blessed, we want

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to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Hello?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Who's this?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

This is Tomorrow. I'm calling from Hampton, Connecticut.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Tomorrow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your name is really Tomorrow?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tomorrow. That's what your parents named you?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Yes, sir, that's what they named you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I need to hear the full name.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, what's your. I was gonna say that. What's your middle name and your last name?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, my God.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Okay, so my whole name is Tamaro, you stupid. Latif Burke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tomorrow, you stupid what? Huh?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Charlemagne. Don't start with me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I didn't hear what you sound like you said you stupid. What'd you say?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

I said you stuple. Latif Burke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's you stuple mean?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

It's Waheeli. My name is Waheeli in Chinese. Latif was a famous Chinese philosopher. He was banned it from China because he was against communism. I was born in 1975. My mom was a Black Panther.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, Tomorrow. I like that. I like that your name has a lot of intention and meaning. I like that. How can we help you tomorrow?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Tomorrow? Well, I'm really happy to be on the phone with you guys. And I lost my mom six months ago, two days now, and it's just really been a long struggle. I'm a grandma. I got two kids. My youngest is graduating today.

[DJ Envy]

Congrats.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

She's going to high school. Aaliyah Williams and my other daughter, Damani Brown. She has two kids. My wonderful grandkids. I love them, but I'm just scared. Like, everything that's going on, and I want to be able to enjoy the day, but I just feel like everything is closed union.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I just want to tell you that, you know, we all know every day the sun don't shine. But that's just why we love Tomorrow.

[Raz B]

Period.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

You already know it, right? All right, thank you. I love you guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But. Yes, but seriously, don't let your. Don't let. You know. Tyler Perry said something last night at the BET Awards that was true. You know, don't let your worry outweigh your faith.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Amen.

[DJ Envy]

All right. Tomorrow.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Yes, I am. Faith is the one thing I need to work on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

You have a blessed morning. All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The sun will come out tomorrow

[DJ Envy]

anymore, right?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

All the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Do not Know that.

[DJ Envy]

Have a good one.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Gloomy week tomorrow, so just Sunshine is somewhere. Grab your blanket, baby.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Hilarious]

Hey, what you doing, man?

[Angela Rye]

I'm d. I'm call calling you.

[Hilarious]

This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051.

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[DJ Envy]

Hello?

[Caller - Good News]

Who's this?

[Caller - Calvina]

This is Calvina.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Calvina.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest.

[Caller - Calvina]

Hi, I'm Calvina. I'm living in Georgia, but I'm from New York. Shout out to Rosaire Queen. And I am a CNA working to get my nurse's license. But I just want to say that if you ain't in the loving field, like, if you don't want to really take care of people, don't go into the nursing field. These nurses be so brutal. They don't really like to help the DNAs. It's just like, I just be feeling so bad for these residents because it's just like people don't care no more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree with that. With any public service. If you don't care, don't be a nurse, don't be a teacher, don't be a doctor, don't be a police officer. If you don't truly care about people and have no empathy, don't go in those fields. I agree with you.

[Caller - Calvina]

That's it. That's what I wanted to get off my chest. Shout out to New York. Shout out to Valdosta, Georgia. Shout out to all the nurses and CNAs, local nurses that actually care. And hey, Charlemagne. I didn't even say hey to y'.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All.

[Caller - Calvina]

Hey, Charlamagne. Hey, Envy. Hey, Jeff. Everybody.

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[DJ Envy]

Well, you have a. You have a good day. You live by, what, snake Road on 232nd. Around there by the park?

[Caller - Calvina]

No, I'm talking about Badassa, Georgia.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. Where they say no, No, I thought you said Rosedale. But Rosedale's in Queensdale, Queens.

[Caller - Calvina]

Yeah, I got about the 226.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Angela Rye]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

So you are from Queens?

[Caller - Calvina]

Yeah, yeah, I'm from Queens. For real. I've been down here In Georgia, what, 20 years?

[DJ Envy]

You forget about your home? I say snake Road and two 32nd in the park. You don't know none of that no more, huh?

[Caller - Calvina]

Oh, Snake Road over there by the airport. Not too far from the airport.

[DJ Envy]

Now you know. Now you know. Will you have a Good day?

[Caller - Calvina]

Yeah, you had to give me a reminder.

[DJ Envy]

All right, have a good one.

[Caller - Calvina]

You too.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Bye.

[Caller - Calvina]

Bye.

[Hilarious]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Hi. I just wanted to say happy birthday to my fellow Caribbean queen, Riri. And also happy birthday to my daughter Jamie. It's her birthday also today. And I would also like to say happy birthday to my niece who made me an aunt, Jessie. Happy birthday to all three queens. I love you guys and have a great day. And to the Breakfast Club. You guys make my drive to work amazing and entertaining. Jess, you're doing amazing, girl.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you, babe. I appreciate that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get it off.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Thank you, guys.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Sister Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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[DJ Envy]

Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious charlamagne tha guy. We are the Breakfast Club now. If you're just joining us, we're talking about a story that Mimi did during

[Charlamagne Tha God]

front page news about Mimi Brown.

[DJ Envy]

Mimi Brown about pretty much shacking up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This ain't shacking up. These are just people who are roommates.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, just roommates. They're just trying to get it, you know, get it done. Because you look at rent and rent can go anywhere from about. Probably about 2,500 to $4,000. And people can't afford it. So what they're doing is they're renting out rooms where it's like, you have your own room, but you're. You're sharing a common space, which is usually the kitchen or the living room and areas like that. But people can't afford it. So you're seeing more and more and more of that. And like you said, also people are like, look, you know, if the man can afford it, he might be able

[Hilarious]

to have a couple of different girls,

[DJ Envy]

or if a woman can afford it, have a couple of different dudes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that the economy is going to really going force. Not force, but, you know, make people get into more polygamous relationships. I really do. And it might be vice versa. You might have some women that's out here making enough money and, you know, might have to have these two dudes like, yo, we gonna all be one big happy family.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And they gonna have to be all right with it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just never know. I never had a roommate. You know what I'm saying? I mean, me and my wife have lived together, you know, even back in the day, but I've never had. I never had a roommate.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I never had a roommate either.

[DJ Envy]

Well, y' all didn't go to college, but only in college I had a roommate, but outside of college, no, me neither.

[Angela Rye]

So what?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It don't matter. We ain't never go to college.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How was that? Two men sharing the same toilet?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was three of them in there, two cheeks on.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It wasn't even just two. I'm so hyped. Talking about you went to college, you sharing the dorm with all. Let me. Let me spin.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I don't know what college you went to, but Hampton University was a two bedroom, two toilets, so we had our own toilet. It wasn't cheeks on the same toilet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Remember when we had. Remember, remember Dros, our old board out drum had a roommate and him and the dude was sharing the same. Yes, they was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He was grown or he was young.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was older. He got so mad when I was like, y', all, shit. Putting the same cheeks on.

[DJ Envy]

It's the truth. Because if you think about it, if he. If he got crabs and then you use the toilet after him, that crab

[Hilarious]

is hanging on to that toilet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, forget the crab. The ass wolf. When you sit on the toilet after another man, you feel that warmth. And then what if you get bricked up a little bit while you sit?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Do that every day at work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Never. No.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Y' all don't know who sit on them toilets before y'?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All?

[DJ Envy]

Nobody sit on my toilet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is different, though. It's a little bit more intimate when y' all roommates and y' all two men sharing the same toilet, man. What did you say? Last hours, give it a whirl.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, but if it's your roommate, you kind of know his ass a little bit better than you would know a stranger's ass. No, for real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, you know, living with a person right there. That's why Biggie said you know two with. Nope. Find yourself in serious. Okay.

[DJ Envy]

All right, let's go to the phone lines.

[Hilarious]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Commercial Announcer]

This is.

[Caller - Calvina]

Well, this is. Well, from the Bronx.

[DJ Envy]

From the Bronx. Are you against roommates will or shacking up or having a. A bunch of men or even a bunch of women living with you?

[Caller - Calvina]

All right, now, I'm gonna be honest

[Lauren LaRosa]

with y' all here, man.

[Caller - Calvina]

If it's. If it's like, childhood friends as far as men and we grew up together, then, you know, we could work something out. But, you know, are you a man?

[DJ Envy]

Don't take that disrespectfully.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just.

[Hilarious]

I haven't caught.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is a woman you host.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sorry.

[Caller - Calvina]

You said it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My girl.

[Caller - Calvina]

On, boy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, this a girl.

[Caller - Calvina]

I'm a dude, man. I'm a dude, yo.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Come on.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Come on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I understand what just saying, because, yo, studs. Studs be players, too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, he got the voice on. I'm sorry, yo.

[Caller - Calvina]

Nah.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Caller - Calvina]

Don't do me like that, man.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Come on.

[Caller - Calvina]

But, you know, I ain't against it, man. It's just sometimes when it's with friends, you know, it could be a financial issue that could mess up a relationship, a friendship. You know what I'm saying?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Definitely.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you.

[Caller - Calvina]

What word. So I appreciate y' all for getting me through. I just want to shout out Soundview the Bronx and my Uncle KT.

[Angela Rye]

Get well.

[Hilarious]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

All right. Well, 800-585-1051. Mimi was from front Page News was talking about. People are shacking up. They're living with each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, stop saying shacking up. Shacking up is something different to my grandma. Yeah, Me and my wife used to. Used to shack up because we was a couple. We weren't married. That's what you call shacking up. These are people who are actually roommates because, you know, financially, they can't afford to rent on their own. Like, this ain't no shacking up. Ain't no loving going on Now, I'm trying to get the polygamy question going, but ain't nobody biting on the polygamy question.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Nobody want to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Now, if you're just joining us, Mimi, during front page News, she was talking about how difficult it out there is out there for homeowners, and she said people are having roommates living with each other. So let's listen.

[News Reporter]

There's a new housing survey that's raising questions this morning about roommate red flags. It says that more adults in their 30s and 40s, they're sharing space again because rent is just simply too high. So recent data from Zillow, it shows living alone can cost renters more than $10,000. And so people are splitting it because financially, it makes sense. But respondents to that survey say that they're facing issues that they thought they left behind in college, like dirty dishes, stacking up for days, boyfriend or girlfriends that are practically moving in without paying bills and late payments, that in some cases, their credit is being affected because someone on the lease isn't keeping their part of the deal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, I completely get it. I know that there's a lot of people living that life. You know, I'm sure there's a lot of adults that have to have roommates because of the economy. So, I mean, I. I understand. Like, you got to do what you got to do till you get back on your feet, man.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't see the problem with it.

[DJ Envy]

But if you got four or five roommates, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Four or five is crazy. I don't even know, like, what kind of place are y' all living in that y' all got four or five roommates.

[DJ Envy]

That's how they got afforded.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Four or five do that in New York City. Y' all be surprised how many people already doing that in New York, right down.

[DJ Envy]

Does a girl come back to your crib if you got that many roommates?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Four or five. Crazy. No, probably not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Nah, you can't.

[Raz B]

You.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You shouldn't even want nobody to know you live with four or five people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. And them walls too thin. Like, them walls too. A girl not gonna be able to get loose with four or five roommates. And God, forget forbid you be gay. You know, man, you bring a bottom back to the crib when they say just too much.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[State Farm Advertiser]

Good news from the belt.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, what's up, brother?

[Hilarious]

Talk to us.

[DJ Envy]

What's your thoughts?

[State Farm Advertiser]

Man, I tell you this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That stuff is real.

[Caller - Calvina]

Because out here in Long island, depending

[Charlamagne Tha God]

on where you at, yo, it gotta cost you 50. No, you got to make 51, 000 a year in order to qualify for low income housing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

In order.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I thought I'd never see the

[Lauren LaRosa]

day where you come housing. You got to make that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. You got to make at least 50. 1, 000. That's crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

So you got a roommate, brother?

[Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shoot. We gotta rent a room.

[Caller - Calvina]

Shoot.

[State Farm Advertiser]

That's the best way to do it.

[DJ Envy]

See, I told you that. Like, that's a lot of people do that. How many. How many people live in your house that you live in?

[State Farm Advertiser]

Pretty much just about three of us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. But it's your crib. You just rent the other rooms out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no.

[Raz B]

Hell no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm written from someone else. Oh, got you, Got you. Do you bring girls back over and stuff like that? No, you got to be respectful of the house. True, true, true.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You were in a room when you want some Cheeks?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Hotel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hotel.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, but see. But see, you spending money on hotels. You know what I mean? When you can be.

[DJ Envy]

Because he's too embarrassed to bring the girl back.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, but I'm getting kicking out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not embarrassed.

[State Farm Advertiser]

But you just got to be respectful of the house rule.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I don't think it's nothing to be embarrassed about. No, no, no.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Not to be embarrassed, but that's kicking out more bread if he already can't afford to live on his own. You getting. You getting hotels for cheeks?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, just got a point.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You gotta upgrade the female.

[State Farm Advertiser]

Yeah, but if she got home spots,

[Hilarious]

who could go over there too?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

True.

[DJ Envy]

How much is your rent?

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's what I was right. Say it. Depend on the type of woman.

[Caller - Calvina]

I ain't telling that.

[State Farm Advertiser]

I ain't putting that out.

[DJ Envy]

How much his rent is?

[Lil Fizz]

That's all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. How much it is?

[State Farm Advertiser]

Bunch of my co workers is listening to this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. That's right. Don't let them mess up your situation, bro.

[DJ Envy]

All right, man. Thank you, brother.

[Caller - Calvina]

Damn.

[DJ Envy]

I ain't telling y'. All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ain't nobody on the line that practice a polygamous lifestyle to save money.

[Lauren LaRosa]

None of the women. I thought we was gonna get at least some women to call.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Cause they'd be the first ones with it.

[DJ Envy]

Well, what's the moral of the story, sir? Cause we don't have that on the line.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It ain't.

[DJ Envy]

That is not on the line.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's how you know it ain't that many people out there that's willing to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're right. The moral of the story to me Is nothing. It's just like, yo, are people doing what they gotta do to survive? I'm not judging nobody. Like, I think what, you know, that new survey says a lot. It says a lot about where the economy is. And, you know, people are literally doing what they gotta do to get by, so. I get it. I understand.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. I just always worry about the safety issue.

[Raz B]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

Because you don't know who you're living with. You don't know, you know, where they came from or what your intentions are. So that's the scary part about it,

[Lauren LaRosa]

you know, got mental illness and all this type of stuff. You just never know.

[Angela Rye]

Be thieving.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's true.

[Hilarious]

I mean, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Just imagine living with Jess.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Imagine living with me. It's like living in paradise, baby. Don't play with me. Don't play with me.

[DJ Envy]

To Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy.

[Hilarious]

Jess.

[DJ Envy]

Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. L. Rose is here as well. We got some special guests in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed.

[DJ Envy]

Bell Weezy's in the building. Yeah, yeah. And also B2K. Welcome, fellas.

[Omarion]

Yes, sir.

[Hilarious]

How y' all feeling, man?

[Omarion]

Everybody, amazing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every 30 something year old woman in here got dressed up today, put on makeup. One of them came in here talking about, yo, spray something. Yeah. You ain't never sprayed nothing in here.

[DJ Envy]

You ain't never got a Jersey dress.

[Announcer]

We excited to see y' all together.

[Angela Rye]

That's dope.

[Announcer]

I had to ask them earlier, like, am I old because I'm excited. Like, is it nostalgia or is it like, I'm still young but, like, I'm happy this is happening? Okay, okay. All right. Thank you for that.

[DJ Envy]

So let's start from the beginning. How did the talk get back together? Well, first of all, how did B2K get to the reason and say, we're going to come back as a group and say we're going to put on a show for the people. How did y' all start those conversations?

[Lil Fizz]

Knew y' all was going to look at me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, bud.

[Lil Fizz]

Oh, man, just real quick. I came to see. Oh, he had a show out in la. I put up on him and, man, it was just. It was dope. I'm like, I want to come support, you know what I mean? And when I got there, he pulled me up on stage. We did a quick little rendition of A Girlfriend. But after the show, we. We talked and we. We had dinner and it was like

[Hilarious]

a breaking of the ice.

[Lil Fizz]

I hadn't seen him since like 2019, so it was like September six years or something like that. To make a longer story short, it was a great conversation. You know, we talked about some of the issues that we were having, you know what I'm saying? Since the last time we've seen each other and then moving forward, we brought the guys into the fold, and we just kind of made a group chat, and we used to start, you know, mending a lot of the broken parts. And then we had a great conversation. That almost led to a couple blows and some wrestling matches.

[Hilarious]

I'm sure.

[Lil Fizz]

I'm sure.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sure.

[Lil Fizz]

Cause you're like, you know, I'm gonna shoot it straight with you if we gonna get past this. I like that. You feel me? But we ain't got to go into detail. But it brings us to the current space where, you know, it was an opportunity for us to go back on the road. And that's where Raz comes in. How Bow got tied in. We was at the BET Awards, and if you know Raz, you know, Raz

[Raz B]

is always super passionate about, you know, brotherhood. You know what I mean? And obviously, I've had my trials and tribulations and, you know, time and great counseling is definitely brought me to a better space. And you know what? What better person to tour with other than Bow Wow? Being that. Being that we started our career with Bow, you know, we was in his first Ghetto Girls video. We went on tour with him. So it's just a full circle moment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to stay there for a second because, Omarion, you. I know you're a very spiritual person. Right. You all about energy. What needed to heal exactly for this to happen.

[Omarion]

I think maturity, you know, that plays a big role in everything, you know, being able to see other perspectives and respect. I really feel like, you know, in 2019, things were shifting. You know, it was a great opportunity for us, but I don't know that everybody was on the same page as far as life experiences, wins and losses. You know, you get to a space as an adult, you know, where, you know, else it feel like lessons instead of losses.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

And it feels like we all have kind of, you know, risen to that level where, you know, we're all. We're all parents, you know what I'm saying? Like, we have to look at the scope beyond our personal feelings. So I really feel like that's what. That's why we're here again today. And a lot of people like to, I guess, hone in on the business aspect of it, which is cool. But what people forget is. Is that, you know, we were very young when we started, so we, we established something beyond, you know, in respects to the business. We really created a bond in the brotherhood. So we're happy to present ourselves in a better way, in a more mature way. And, and yeah.

[Hilarious]

Now, what about you?

[DJ Envy]

How was it for you getting back to the group? Because you said you sent out a bunch of emails and you've been up here passionate before about making this work. So what was for you to say, you know, what this is going to work or what needed to happen for you to say this could work again?

[Raz B]

For me, I had to take accountability for my actions. Right. And learn how to regulate my emotions. There's a lot of things I learned in different coping skills and therapy. And I feel like with my maturity, my marriage, me having children, it just really grounded me and I feel like there was a love that I was looking for because when you dedicate so much to this industry and then the rug is pulled up on you and you're just trying to figure out your back. Back is against the wall.

[Hilarious]

You're.

[Raz B]

You're feeling these emotions that you don't know how to express. You got people around you exploiting that. You know what I mean? So just getting in a good space and then having my brothers, you know, bull.

[Lil Fizz]

Shout out to his therapist.

[Hilarious]

I have a therapist, but he's like a life coach.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I wouldn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I call him like 4 o' clock

[Hilarious]

in the morning, like, yo, bro, walking

[Raz B]

the floors like, hey, listen, man, we

[Lil Fizz]

ain't gonna go into that. But yeah, shout out to myself, no

[Hilarious]

real talk, not real brothers.

[Raz B]

Count accountability, man.

[Hilarious]

Yeah, definitely. Just the maturity, you know, growing up,

[Omarion]

taking accountability, having those rough conversations with

[Hilarious]

O and you know, just really displaying the true genuineness from my heart, you know, in action more than words. So I think that's just really what

[Omarion]

brought us all back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you and old argue about, like, who got the best baby hairs?

[Angela Rye]

Stupid

[Announcer]

Y. I know y'.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All.

[Announcer]

I mean, with Omari and Fizz, we saw everything with like, you know, April, like, whatever. And I know that there was a. When I saw your apology, Fizz, a few years ago, I felt like there was a lot of hurt on both sides that led to where y' all got to. How has it been dealing with that hurt in real time? Because I know the conversations are probably still happening actively. Like, that's not like a one time thing.

[Hilarious]

Yeah, I mean the whole entirety of it, right? I'm saying it was hurt there. So to.

[Omarion]

To come from it, you know, it

[Hilarious]

has to be Rough conversations.

[Angela Rye]

Yeah, for sure.

[Announcer]

And I guess my question in that was so. In dealing with that day to day, because that's not like an easy thing to deal with. How is that every day? Like, when things come back up, how do you guys, like, work through it actively?

[Lil Fizz]

So let me. I'm speak on that. Because it's deeper than just them, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's a family that you talking about, so if anybody got siblings and you close, you know what I'm saying? Like, what they go through don't just affect them.

[Announcer]

Right.

[Lil Fizz]

And it's not just them, you know what I'm saying? Working to get through it. You know, for us, it's like since day one, it's always been a straight up, you know, so we not gonna hold on to nothing that we didn't already cover, you know what I'm saying? Like, once the conversation is had, even if it's a boxing in the. In the closet, that gotta go down. Like, once that's done, it's done.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Done.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Lil Fizz]

You know what I'm saying? So it's not a question or a conversation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did not know Bugs was the Bill Belichick of this.

[Lil Fizz]

No, I just wanted to be, you know. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And bad. I was gonna ask, you know, what made you say, you know what I want to do it with. With these guys.

[Lil Fizz]

Right?

[DJ Envy]

Because they've been effed up for a while, up and down. There'll be two members, one member, three members or half a member. So what made you say, you know what? We're gonna put this effort and go on tour and make sure they're gonna stay the whole tour together?

[Hilarious]

No, it just made sense. Like BET Awards, like, it just made sense seeing them together. It was strong. Like, presence was there. I was like, okay, feel right. And of course, you know, Raz gonna speak his mind whenever he don't care if we own. I'm like, we on live. No, I don't give a damn. You want to do this tour with us? He said it live on tv. Like, put me right there on the spot. So I was like, yeah, it do make sense. You know what I'm saying? It's like the Scream tour all over again. You know, me and. Oh, we've been doing it for the past couple of years together. I came out on the first run with 2019. You brought me out right in Atlanta. And it just made sense, them as a group. I haven't toured with them in over, what, 20 years, so it just made sense. Me and Chris did Runs. Me and O did runs. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. We only danced, what, twice? It'd be good to dance one more time. And the millennium tours, we've been killing them, like every year. We just been killing them. And we just felt like the time is now. They're celebrating. I'm celebrating 25 in the game. The boys are celebrating theirs. And it's just a full circle moment. It's like, yeah, let's do it now. And we still got it. And then the fans still got it. Yeah, absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Leaving out the fans, you know, me and a whole other millions of people.

[Hilarious]

And we ready. And I could tell you was serious. I could tell they were serious. Like, you could just tell, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, yeah, just feel right. Let's go ahead and dance.

[DJ Envy]

Let's do it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How did y' all pick the rest of the acts? I see y' all got crime on. Pretty Ricky, Jeremiah Waka. That's a long ass show.

[Hilarious]

Is it different? Oh, like, we, we, we.

[Omarion]

We ain't.

[DJ Envy]

That's a BPC question.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay. That's a lot of people.

[Raz B]

Black promoters collective.

[Hilarious]

Sometimes. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna cap. Like, sometimes we do got a little say, so. I ain't gonna lie. Like, we did Ashanted in one year. Like, I had. I hit sis. Like, yo, I think you should roll with us. And then if we get the okay, like, we'll lob it to, like, Gary or whatever. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, franchises pimping. That's the homies. It's like, all right, man. We don't have Yang on this six years in a row.

[Omarion]

Sure.

[Hilarious]

No, they definitely do. And I'm like, we gotta switch it up, man. Bring them back. Like, so we. Sometimes we did some say so. Then sometimes we'd be like, I know, I know.

[Angela Rye]

I have.

[Hilarious]

I've been like, man, put this on there. We'll get closer. They don't. I'll be like, but yeah, we do get a little say so old. You did it because you got me on the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

headliner.

[Hilarious]

Nah, I always give all his. His credit when it comes to the millennium brand, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, and Raz too. And just the whole. The guys, you know, I mean, it was theirs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh.

[Hilarious]

You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Screaming, you just got the DNA.

[Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Raz B]

You know, probably still is gonna do it.

[Hilarious]

I think the. Yeah, for sure. The confusion is. It is the DNA from the screen.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Hilarious]

That's where it comes from. But the Millennium tour, oh, and them popped that off first. The boys popped that off first, you know what I'm saying? Then, oh came and grabbed me like, hey, this is. You can't turn this down. Like, it's really a no brainer. So I give credit to my bro because I wasn't even thinking about touring out. That wasn't even on my mind. I was on some other. And he like, nah, you got to come get a piece of this. And bro did that. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

You take it serious because it was one time he was wilding about. I mean, when you was wilding on

[Hilarious]

JD they gave me the broke money.

[DJ Envy]

You and Ray J running around twisted. There were times we even said that you was drinking too much. When did you say, nah, I gotta

[Hilarious]

stop and take it seriously. We got a group chat. We got a group chat. So I'm the one that's always wild in that, like, I'm always wilding but passionate thing for me, honestly. I mean, I said it already on record when I had to talk with. With somebody, you know, I mean, I ain't. I ain't gotta say no names, but I pretty much. I think y' all probably know what I'm talking about. And he kind of just told me, man, you tighten your ass up like, oh, you out here doing all this goofy. You understand that you're a legend, man, you gotta, you can't, you can't come around me with that no more. It's time for you to wake up and understand. You close. So I'll say Puff said it. He told me. You know what I'm saying? Told me this years back. Like, remember when he came up here? Yeah. Like me, he's like, cut the. You know what I'm saying? You around SNOOP, you around J.D. you know, I mean, really, you got a billionaire you can call everybody, can't call them, everybody, can't call me. But I pick up for you. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to understand your brand. Don't that up you. Yo, all your OGs is here. You got to be one. So I think when he said that, like about seven years ago, whatever, it just clicked in. And then, you know, my kids getting older. My son about to be 6, shy driving this year. So it's kind of like a lot of things come in perspective. I'm about to be 39. It's like you start getting all that love and everybody giving your flowers. Me and, oh, we don't want a Billboard Award for the tour. You start getting all this. It's like that there make you sit back and be like, okay, yeah, I am him, all right. I am one of the ones. It's like when you understand that you're gonna move like one. And that's why you ain't seen me. No, no. For the past. I don't know how long I just been on my. I've been in the crib. Focus. Working, selling these do rags and doing what the I'm supposed to be doing. That's it. I'm focused on the. I'm focused, man. I got two R. I got you Strange.

[Lil Fizz]

Hey, get the brush to go with it. I'm telling you, it's different.

[Hilarious]

Yeah, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It work for you.

[Hilarious]

Oh, my God. Number one. I got that sold up that lane.

[Lil Fizz]

I'm good.

[DJ Envy]

The brat was up here. She said she spaz out on you a couple times.

[Hilarious]

When Brad don't spaz up. Brad spaz on me when I change my number and I don't give it to her when I thought I did give it to her. Like, that's it, though. Like, that's another one.

[Raz B]

Who going to hold you accountable?

[Hilarious]

Hold me accountable. Check on me. I was just with Snoop that last week. That's another person that you know that's gonna get on me, and it's just too many people that I got that's in my corner that I know I can always talk to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got a lot of LeBron in you. I'm gonna tell you what I mean. Right? Like, it's hard to, like, meet expectations when you think about when we saw Bow Wow on Arsenio hall all them years ago. He's like, that little dude. Nice.

[Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You didn't have to become a superstar.

[Hilarious]

Nope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That could have went either way. You ever think about stuff like that? Nope.

[Hilarious]

I knew it. I knew it. Like, this is all I knew. I didn't know nothing. That's all I know. I didn't know nothing else. At first. It was being a comedian, and I think that's how I was able to transition to the acting thing so easily. I started out with that first rapping came because I could mimic just about anybody. And then if you could mimic them, you basically doing it. So then it was like, all right, cool. Then somebody started writing my raps. I think if I write it, then, boom. Then the whole chronic tour 93 came. Snoop found me. I mean, dad shout out to Daz. Dash finds me. Bring me to the back. And now the rest is history. And it Was like, okay, I guess we're gonna stay on this path then. This is what we gonna do. That's what God chose for me. So we gonna ride it out. I'm gonna ride out to the death, though. I ain't gonna stop this no time ever. I'm never gonna stop.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I love hearing you say that now because even when you were wild and going through your bull, I knew it. Like, it. It just wasn't for no reason. Like, what do you think it was? Did you feel alone? Like, were you dealing? What were you dealing with?

[Hilarious]

Just doing dumb. It's just.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's just for nothing.

[Hilarious]

I wasn't stressed out or nothing. I really. Listen, I really thought put up the plane. I really did. I thought I was low key and I did that. I just got caught. You know what I'm saying? And who was there to whip? Well, you weren't with me on the plane. I'm saying. No, but you was at the studio when we did the little sketch. You feel what I'm saying? He was right there when we did the skin. So for me, you already see, I'm a team. I play ball. Like, we got the group chat. My. I got. I don't got thin skin. Like, this is what we do. Like, but all my ups. And it's really happened. Like the hoodie, when my daughter just recreated the hoodie. We coming out the crab boil and she like, I'm about to do this to my dad. He got on the outfit too. We got the black hoodie and I'm about to get him. And I didn't even know what she was doing, but as soon as she did it, I was like, yo, you about to. You're gonna go viral with that. Because it already went viral. It reoccurs every some odd, weird years, but you about to bring this all the way back fully. But when she did it, it was like, that was really a moment. It was a million kids out there. I got anxiety. You heard, oh say we was child stars. We hear crowds and yeah, we get the flipping. I'm like, oh, they don't know all the time. But I love it, though. I love it. That's just that daddy daughter dynamic that we got, you know what I mean? And I love it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never thought about that type of ptsd. We always think about PTSD from, like

[Hilarious]

telling you the negative way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But imagine like if everywhere you go, you're used to crowds just rushing you.

[Hilarious]

I went to the mall the other day and I used to.

[Caller - Calvina]

The mall.

[Hilarious]

No, I put up to the back. My man come out the mall through the back door. He'll just put my shoes and hand it to him. But he was like, bob, I think you should really come in and got some good chrome heart. I know you're going on tour. You might have to try these on. I'm like, all right, cool. I'm like, why are we walking through the real way? Like, I just. I started flipping the out in there.

[Omarion]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Hilarious]

I'm like, I don't do this. I don't go to the mall. Like, I don't go to the my. I don't leave my house. Like, the boy. I. I don't leave the crib. I'm in the crib 24 7. I got everything I need. After I was home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bow talk about you and Omarion's relationship over the years.

[Hilarious]

You know, even though the. The boys went through they. Through they drama. Me, oh, we. Me, oh, we done went through our drama multiple times. You know what I'm saying? Even times right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Hilarious]

Oh, yeah. Like the last tour. Me, Odin, say one word to each other. We passing each other shoulder to shoulder, not saying one word. But my aunt like, hey. Oh, you like, oh, hey, auntie. I see y' all see Orion. What up? Oh, what up? Oh, go right there. So for us to go from there, I got the ear. I got the ego. So it's like, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Hilarious]

Trade Trey trying to get us, man. Y' all need to talk. Well, all right. If he walked right here and I walk right there, and then we can talk. We all meet him in the middle like this. All right. I don't want to talk neither then. So it's like, yeah, buster. To watch them, what they went through. Then me and oh, we've had our own things as brothers. And then for us to finally be like, all right.

[Raz B]

Especially BET Awards, I was. I was already me and Boog was like, yeah.

[Hilarious]

You know what I'm saying? Like, that was the perfect time.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Hilarious]

But the boys know because even in the group chat, they'll know Bal gonna come in spazzing at least twice every time. But it's about the work. It's just. Just really passionate about this. This is all I know since five. So it's like, I know where we supposed to be at. I know how to look supposed to be. And if everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If.

[Hilarious]

If we all on the same page, but if we can't get them on, say, like, it's. It's frustration built. And this is the fact that we want to Be great. So I think to watch ego, too. Oh, there's definitely ego for sure. And then, you know, like I said with the brother thing, it's like, I don't like working with people if I really don't know you. And it's a lot of artists that's like that. Like, I don't ask for features before, and they like, man, I don't know about all. I need to hang with him. I need to da, da, da. Like, they know they shoot me over record. I'm doing it right there, sending it right back. Like, these are the guys that. It ain't even about the money. It's just about like this. To me. I don't even care about the money. Like, this tour is just fun just to do it with them. It's a full circle moment. And you see, anytime I tour, I'm touring with one of my brothers. If it ain't them as a group, if it ain't B2K, if it ain't O, then it's Chris. If it ain't Chris, then I'm trying to do something with Snoop. Like, I like working with people who I genuinely rock with and with. It's just the work feels better. The fans can receive it better. They know it's organic. Organic. They know it's authentic, and it's just received well. So, like I said, I couldn't. Like, I wasn't going to tour this year at all. I was just going pop open the screen Festival, my 25th. 25th anniversary show in Columbus, and. And call it a day, really, and just do all the festivals. But when he brought this up, it was kind of like a. I was like, damn.

[DJ Envy]

I just.

[Hilarious]

Me and Trey just got done. I just want to do it again. So I was like, all right. You know, this. This. This is different. I don't know if they gonna see this again.

[Omarion]

So me and Trey just got done. Like, I wasn't on the tour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why I be.

[Hilarious]

I said, you started. I said, you started the Millennial.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said, me and Trey.

[Hilarious]

Me O and Trey. All right, there we go. Me, I was thinking I was talking too fast, bro. My bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Conversation between y'. All, like, how did y' all finally just.

[Hilarious]

All right, so it was after two.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was in London.

[Hilarious]

It was in London. No, it was in London. I'm telling you, it was in London. Here go Trey. Me and Trey shout out to Trigg. He go, come on. Come on, man. Come on, man. We party in my room. I said, I'm partying in my Room. I got a girl.

[DJ Envy]

We chilling.

[Hilarious]

We in London at the last show. You're like, come on, come on, come on. We're gonna do, like, a last photo, whatever. I'm like, all right, cool.

[Omarion]

Y' all gotta see the photo, too.

[Hilarious]

Yeah, I see the photo. So I'll walk in the room. Oh, yeah, I'll walk in the room. I walk in the room. Trey like, oh, man. You know, I got my brothers here. Oh, bad man. We go through this picture, man. Let's go. I'm like, yeah, man.

[Omarion]

All right.

[Hilarious]

Come on. Hurry and take the picture. Let's do it, man. Oh, like the same way we still don't speak. We all were in London. It didn't really crack open until bet, who's on the side of the stage. And I. You know, I even know it was because I apologized while I was hosting. I told him my fault. I was in my ego, you know what I'm saying? Even though the tour was a success. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Hilarious]

Top five R B hip hop tour last year, right? Yeah, but we up because we didn't get the fans what they wanted. We never performed together. Not one time.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Hilarious]

Never spoke to each other. Not one time.

[Omarion]

I was serious.

[Hilarious]

Yeah, it was just work.

[Omarion]

Work.

[Hilarious]

Like, it was weird. You know what I'm saying? It was weird. And, you know, I was like, man, we ain't gonna let that happen again. Like, we just not gonna let that happen again. Not even the work. But we got to get back how we was. The work. Is there more about that later? Like, let's fix this. And once I apologize to him and said, yo, bro, I was ego tripping sometimes. I ain't gonna cap, bro. You know me. You know me, bro. And same vice versa. And we put that to the side, and group chat popping, and we cracking jokes. They be sending these memes. I don't know who. He said, you send it. You know, Obi, that's crazy.

[Lil Fizz]

It's just incense.

[Hilarious]

It's all lit, though.

[DJ Envy]

I love it because y' all were going through your thing.

[Raz B]

They don't have a problem.

[Hilarious]

So why everybody think they got a

[Charlamagne Tha God]

problem and we ain't close?

[DJ Envy]

Close. They don't got.

[Angela Rye]

It ain't close.

[Hilarious]

They don't got a problem.

[Omarion]

Y' all ain't never seen us hanging out, you know what I'm saying? I'm a whole. Whole part of a group, you know what I'm saying?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So.

[Raz B]

No, I mean, Mario's incredible talent. Nah, I love Mario.

[Hilarious]

He's.

[Angela Rye]

But I like people Ask me, like, what's your problem?

[Raz B]

Like, why do we.

[Hilarious]

Who said we got a problem?

[Angela Rye]

We just.

[Raz B]

We just did verses together.

[Announcer]

I mean, he.

[Lauren LaRosa]

At first.

[Announcer]

So he said that, and then when you responded, people were like, wait. Even Mario, when he was here, was like, I. Okay, we have an issue. Like, he was a little confused, too, because we were all at the Ebony Power 100 Gala, and he was like, well, he didn't say nothing to me, so I didn't know that there was a thing. But you said that he didn't respect your craft because he said whatever he said about how you sing.

[Omarion]

Yeah, he was like. He said something like, it was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was the demeanor.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

He's, like, hitting the miss, and it's just like, come on, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

20 years.

[Omarion]

Come on, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody knows

[Hilarious]

y'.

[Caller - Calvina]

All.

[Lil Fizz]

That's like, you know, the host of these podcasts. That's some messy stuff right there.

[Hilarious]

You feel me?

[Lil Fizz]

Like, you presenting the opportunity for us to have to go head up, you know, Like. Like, literally, what kind of question is that? You know what I mean? And at the same time, shout out to Mario, but, like, what kind of answer is that? You know what I'm saying? Like, we all work to build this music industry, and guess what?

[Omarion]

Your favorite artist has bad days. Your favorite artist is flat. The greatest singers. They don't sound great all of the time. Like, it's a part of it. Y' all come here and show up every day. Y' all not feeling good every day. Y' all feel like talking about this, you know what I'm saying? They don't see that, though. You know? I mean, so it's like for another person at another station to be like, oh, yeah, you'd be like, oh, what's.

[Angela Rye]

What's up with that?

[Hilarious]

You know? And I've never.

[Omarion]

I've never been an artist to hate on other artists. That's never been my thing.

[Raz B]

So we've always supported everybody.

[Omarion]

Yeah. So when people try to do the little slide thing, I have an issue with that because it's unnecessary. We all here, and we have enough room to make space for everybody. You know what I'm saying? And that's why everybody sees me. And then they put their arm out and want to say, what's up? But then they go on an interview, and it's just like, I have a

[Charlamagne Tha God]

problem with that thing they you about Mario, which is crazy, because I've seen. Seen real dancers give you props, like the Chris Browns and them. For whatever reason, there's always this meme going around Mario, I'm getting away with this. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

It's just that one dance that they. Everybody redoes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he gets busy dancing crazy and

[Lauren LaRosa]

everybody knows

[Raz B]

I was still. Oh, still cold.

[Caller - Calvina]

What?

[DJ Envy]

What?

[Raz B]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

First of all, when you dope at something, you don't lose it. You know, you might shift and it might change for you, but, you know, you change from how you used to be in the beginning, but you don't lose it, you know? I mean, unless you don't use it. And trust me, I'll be in the lab.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'll be in the lab.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Hilarious]

Old dance 24 7. Now, that's not a cat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh.

[Hilarious]

Gonna dance. Everywhere we go we can be.

[Omarion]

I'm joyous.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Lil Fizz]

I think the other day we was at rehearsal and he just out of nowhere was like, I just love dancing. He was like, I want y' all to really know this.

[Omarion]

Yeah, I really do.

[Hilarious]

Well, the tour kicks off March 6,

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[DJ Envy]

That's right. Well, thank you, guys.

[Hilarious]

No, I appreciate it. Appreciate it for sure. Hell, yeah, Fizz.

[DJ Envy]

I had to write this one. Opalion.

[Hilarious]

Wow.

[DJ Envy]

Raspberry.

[Hilarious]

Appreciate you.

[DJ Envy]

Come on, fam.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You already know.

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[Caller - Calvina]

You use that donkey thing. A bunch of donkeys around here.

[Angela Rye]

It's time for Donkey of the Day for being toxic they made me the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

donkey of the Day by the things that I've said. Some donkey todays just saw themselves.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was you. What accountability are you taking?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Caught me off guard. I'm not making new people do these things.

[Caller - Good News]

I made dunk here today on the Breakfast Club.

[Hilarious]

That being said, I want to start off with this donkey right here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Donkey of the Day goes to a 46 year old Houston man named James Earl Johnson Black. Guess what race it is. It will not be needed today. Okay, that is one of the blackest names I've ever heard in my life. All right. This man is named after somebody's great great grandfather okay, he sounds like he was a custodian in a high school when they ended segregation in America in 64. Okay. A James A. Earl and a Johnson. I know he done got denied for a loan quite a few times. Okay. Probably discriminated against during a hiring process or two. I know he didn't get a callback. You know, studies show people with black sounding names get 50% fewer callbacks than identical resumes with white sounding names. So I know James Earl Johnson wasn't getting no callbacks. But anyway, James Earl Johnson. How is he not James Earl Johnson iii. Okay. That name is too old to be the first. Okay. But anyway, James Earl Johnson has been arrested and charged with abusing his wife. Okay. His wife is disabled. And investigators are saying he held his disabled wife captive inside their home for years. What do you mean, Uncle Charlotte? He held his disabled wife captive for years. Well, let's go to ABC13 for the report, please.

[News Reporter - ABC13]

From the outside, looking in what some might consider a dream home. But police say for one woman, the house at Crown Ridge Court was in fact a house of horrors. Investigators say the 46 year old woman, who's disabled, was allegedly held captive in a bedroom for five years by her own husband, James Johnson. James Earl Johnson, arrested Friday morning, but is since bonded out of jail with an order to stay away from the victim and the house where the couple's children also reside.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's here.

[News Reporter - ABC13]

Court documents say the victim was held under lock and key with no phone access. Finally, Friday, police say her husband left a phone on the nightstand which he used to call 911. But police say Johnson cut the call short, slapping his wife and carrying her back to bed, then hanging up on the 911 dispatcher.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

You've got a woman who's being held

[Angela Rye]

captive, and that is a pure form of coercive control, which is a form of abuse.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

James Earl. Mr. Johnson, why? Why? You know, you know, years ago, Larry King, the great Larry King, rest in peace to Larry King. He said to me, you know, Charlemagne, the greatest question you can ask in an interview is why? I think that's the greatest question to ask in life. You know, I've. I've been going to therapy for a solid decade now. And that is what I'm always trying to get to the root of the why of things. Why did I react this way? Why did this trigger me? Why did I behave like this in this moment? So it makes me ask that of other people often. And for James Earl Johnson, that's the question, why? Why couldn't James Earl Johnson just get a divorce. Why couldn't he just break up with his wife? What made him treat his wife the way Helen treated Charles in Diary of a Mad Black Woman? Okay, was this Diary of a Mad Black name? Okay, did y' all try mediation? Did y' all try legal separation? Was there any exit strategy discussed at all? Not even discussed with each other. Did you have a meeting with yourself? James Earl Johnson?

[DJ Envy]

Johnson.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, I'm just trying to figure out why you thought captivity and torture was the best course of action here. I can't believe I have to say this on Breakfast Club this morning, but leaving a spouse rather than mistreating them is always the better option, okay? It's way more ethical than leaving in her. Leaving her in a room like he did with a single egg to eat and giving her dinner one time a day. This woman had to call 911 when her husband, James Earl Johnson, accidentally left a phone on the nightstand. This would be Tyler Perry's version of Misery. Okay, I was born in 1978, so I remember the movie Misery from the 90s when Annie held Paul captive. This is that. Okay? At least in the movie Misery, though, we knew the why. Because Annie was an obsessive fan. There was no reason for James Earl Johnson to be doing what he was doing to his wife other than pure evil. Okay, just leave her, bruh. Divorce her. All right? Any expert you ask, any counselor you ask will tell you that no one deserves to be treated badly. And staying in a miserable or harmful situation often causes more long term damage than leaving. Is this story not proof of that? Is this story not proof that those experts and counselors are correct? Please let Remy Ma give James Earl Johnson the biggest Hee Hawk.

[Angela Rye]

Hee haw. Hee haw. You stupid. Are you dumb?

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well, and we got a special guest in the building, the legend Ayanla Von Zander.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Welcome back.

[Angela Rye]

How are you feeling? I am blessed. How are you?

[DJ Envy]

I'm doing amazing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Highly favored.

[Angela Rye]

All of this young energy, it just.

[DJ Envy]

I'll take the young energy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was born in 1978. If I'm young to you. Thank you.

[Angela Rye]

78. I got a bra that I bought in 70.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You never stopped working.

[Angela Rye]

No, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're here today because you got a new show, the Inside Fix. But you just put out a book, Spiritual Hygiene in December. Why can't you ever keep still?

[Angela Rye]

Well, because I don't want to grow roots. I want to grow roots. You know, roots are not. Not helpful. Yeah, it's good, you know, don't we need it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Angela Rye]

We need the work, so we need the energy. So I'm out here. Yeah, I'm out here. I could be on the pole, but this is so much more beneficial.

[DJ Envy]

First episode. Hilarious. So for people that don't know, it's. It's almost like, where are they now?

[Angela Rye]

Well, we now. Not them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Where. Yes.

[Angela Rye]

Where are we now?

[DJ Envy]

To break down the show. That's.

[Angela Rye]

Yeah. What I did was we went back into some of our highest rated shows

[DJ Envy]

with the most memes.

[Angela Rye]

Most of them. Huh?

[DJ Envy]

With the most.

[Angela Rye]

I know. I'm a meme machine. Yes, ma'. Am. And we looked at those shows for issues that are going on today. Because the way we deal with stuff today is very different than we did 12 years ago. 12 years ago, these six women had a problem and they pull their. Their copy down off the Internet today, you know, that would be IGIT f Facebook. They would be canceled. And so how we deal with it today. But the issue of breakdown among women is just as prevalent today as it was back then. So how do we deal with that? How do we address that? So that's what we're doing. We're going back into the shows and looking at how to take those issues and apply them.

[DJ Envy]

I love how you did it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Why did you find that more appealing than revisiting? I mean, why did you decide to revisit older stories instead of helping new families?

[Angela Rye]

Cuz I'm old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You seasoned. You're not old. You're seasoned.

[Angela Rye]

I'm old and seasoned. You know, because we just keep reinventing stuff and we don't even really get all the juice out of what we got. We didn't get all the juice out of Fix My Life. That's why we can go back in and do it again today. The things that are applicable to. Back then, I did shows with mothers and daughters. And now you have mothers divorcing or daughters divorcing mothers, children not speaking to parents. That wasn't going on back then. So. Yeah. And also to let people know that sometimes you don't even know what you're looking at.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, yeah.

[Angela Rye]

Because people looked at that and got into the characters and the people, but they were looking at a whole nother thing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Angela Rye]

Just like in the world today, we don't really know what we looking at.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Expound on that. Expound on that. We don't really know.

[Angela Rye]

We're trying to get me shot. Do I look Somalian? I Don't want to stop. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do wish DMX could have lived to be on this. On this show.

[Angela Rye]

He wasn't ready. I think he was willing, but he wasn't ready. And you gotta be both. Can't be just ready and not willing or willing. He wasn't. He wasn't ready.

[DJ Envy]

You also talk about lady balls. Lady balls? Does Jess have lady balls?

[Caller - Calvina]

What?

[Angela Rye]

Who?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Angela Rye]

Okay,

[Lauren LaRosa]

all right, cool.

[Caller - Calvina]

Now.

[Angela Rye]

But we gotta understand that lady balls and testicles are different,

[Caller - Tomorrow]

okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because testicles, you just said, everything you see ain't what you see.

[DJ Envy]

Now, what you say the hair you

[Angela Rye]

see on testicles is real.

[Hilarious]

It's really there.

[DJ Envy]

Break down lady balls before it just gets offended.

[Angela Rye]

You see, a lot of women because of the. The way we are conditioned and programmed and educated take on masculine qualities, you know, and. And they think it's powerful. But feminine power is very different than masculine power. Feminine power is assertive. Masculine power is aggressive. Feminine power is directive. It's nurturing, it's nourishing. It's clear. And masculine power is often domineering and controlling and directive, as opposed to collaborative. So lady balls. You know, a lot of women today want to be the boss, and they want to be the diva and. And have no leadership skills whatsoever. Lady balls are how a powerful woman lives in moves, and stands in her power in a way that nurtures, nourishes, supports, heals, grows other people. It's not testicles. Testicles are aggressive. They got hair, and sometimes they smell. Don't ask me how I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's interesting, in one of the episodes, you point out that women don't know the distinction between assertiveness and aggression. Yes. How do you advise women to create a distinction between the two?

[Angela Rye]

Well, lead with your heart and not with your head. Lead with your heart. That's. That's lady ball balls. Lady balls don't come from the crotch. They come from the heart.

[DJ Envy]

Did you come up with this term, lady balls? Did you come with.

[Angela Rye]

Because I said it for so long, but then when I went to try to trademark it, people have said that, but I spell mine differently. And nobody else has a deck of cards. My team created a deck of cards so you can pull your lady ball card.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you said deck. I was like, what the hell is it?

[Angela Rye]

We're talking about balls. Mr. Willie doesn't have to show up.

[Announcer]

What do you. What do you say to women who have. Like. Because a lot of women shy away from leading with their heart because they're called. Too emotional or they. They're Scared to be vulnerable and make decisions based off of emotion because they think that they're not thinking clearly. Right.

[Angela Rye]

Why do you think the heart is about emotion?

[Announcer]

That's what most people would relate heartfelt decisions to when it comes to women.

[Angela Rye]

Well, who. Who? Men.

[Announcer]

Yes, men.

[Angela Rye]

Because most women are so far out of their heart, they don't even know what the heart does.

[Announcer]

Yes.

[Angela Rye]

The truth is that the mind was created to be a slave of the heart, but we've made the heart a slave of the mind or the intellect. Heart centered is grounded. It's clarity. And again, nourishing, nurturing, edifying. It's progressive. The heart is progressive. The mind gets stuck in the loop. That's why we have therapy. Don't nobody go to nothing to try to get their heart fixed. They trying to fix their head.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Angela Rye]

The heart doesn't get stuck in the loop. The heart remains open because the heart is where God speaks. God doesn't speak in the intellect. God speaks in the heart.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me ask you a question about what you said about women having masculine qualities or no? Yeah, masculine qualities, but no leadership abilities. Ability.

[Angela Rye]

They want to be the boss and the diva, but they don't have leadership tendencies. Leadership training. Leadership. Not even qualities. Because you can have leadership qualities, but you have to have. A leader has to have a heart. We see what it looks like when a leader doesn't have a heart. Let me put my glasses on. I don't look. Somalia.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that something you can learn or is that something that has has to be in you already?

[Angela Rye]

Well, I think that leaders are born, but they definitely have to be trained. Some people say leaders are trained, they're not born. I believe leaders are born.

[Raz B]

I agree.

[Angela Rye]

Some people just rise into it. But there's certain qualities and characteristics that an effective leader needs. And the one thing is hard for people, another thing is a vision. Leadership isn't just about ordering people around and telling them what to do. A leader has to have a vision. And then you get people to buy into the vision and you lead them in that vision in a way that's whole and healthy for everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know that in corporate America all the time, a lot of people in leadership roles and leadership positions, but they're

[Angela Rye]

not actually no vision. They're controllers. They're demagogues, dogs. They're bullies. They're all sorts of things.

[DJ Envy]

And.

[Angela Rye]

And whenever money is the only thing that leads you, you. You're gonna have a place.

[DJ Envy]

What would you say to somebody who's like, say, in a workplace or in a Relationship that wants that work relationship or real relationship to work.

[Lil Fizz]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

One of the exercises you did on the first episode, which was from what, 2014. I love it, was you brought everybody to a department store door and you made everybody shop for each other. You buy this person an outfit. You buy this person. Yeah, yeah. And then when you did, you said, well, why did you buy that person that? How do you look at them?

[Angela Rye]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

So what would you advise for a couple or even somebody working to do to try to fix it because you can't be there or they can't afford you?

[Angela Rye]

I should say, well, they can read my book. Because in spiritual hygiene, I have spiritual hygiene for relationships.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Angela Rye]

Spiritual hygiene for parenting and spiritual hygiene for the workplace. Here's the thing. In any relationship, three things. Number one, tell the truth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Angela Rye]

One of the reasons our relationships are dying and drying up is because we lie about everything. We lie about what we feel, we lie about what we want. Sometimes it's not a conscious lie. It's a lie driven by fear.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Angela Rye]

The fear of losing, the fear of being harmed. So we don't want to be vulnerable. But in order for anything to grow and thrive, you got to have some truth. The other thing is accountability. All the stuff that we're not seeing in the world today, tell the truth. Be accountable. Don't blame and project. Own your stuff. Own it. And be accountable for every choice, every word, every action, and know what you're bringing to the table. Particularly in the workplace, people go to work to make money. People go to work to. You know, very few people go to work to serve. So what are you bringing to the table that you want something in return? Give me, give me, give me, give me, give me. What are you bringing to the table? So I think that if we did that in relationships, if we did that in the workplace, we have a lot more respect and honor for if. I can't believe that your mother, your grandmother, didn't die again, for the third time.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I use that one a lot.

[DJ Envy]

How you gonna.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look at me? You know?

[Angela Rye]

I use that one. We working every.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, she only died once, but if I keep saying died in the

[Angela Rye]

harm, you know, where do you. Where can you look somebody in the face and believe that what they're telling you is the truth, that they're not trying to take you down or get something from you or it's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can we stay. I want to stay here with the spiritual hygiene. First of all, I love the title of the book. What. What is Spiritual Hygiene and How do people tend to it?

[Angela Rye]

It's the daily, daily commitment and practice of clearing your mind, of cleaning your heart, of strengthening your spirit. It's not a one time thing, it's a practice. Your spirit has to be maintained. Like your teeth. You know what, people brush their teeth every day and go years without an examination of their own thoughts. They got fungus in their mind. Many people are emotionally constipated. Still bad about mad about something that happened in 56. How do you clean that up? You brush your hair, you, you wash your hoo ha, you know, but you don't clean your spirit, your heart, your mind. So spiritual hygiene is the daily practice of clearing your mind, your heart, your soul, your inner life so that your outer life can have a different appearance.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what about the people who pray? They go to therapy, they meditate, they sage, but they still stay toxic. Like what are they skipping in the.

[Angela Rye]

What's the prayer? What is the prayer? Most people beg, they don't pray, you know, and all of that is good. But what's your relationship? What is your relationship with God? Source created spirit of your understanding. What is your relationship? God doesn't want your, you know, tithes and, and service only. What is the relationship? And most people, many people, I won't say most, I'll say many, many people learn the function and the doing of the prayer. But they don't have the presence in the prayer. They don't have the relationship with the very thing they're praying to. Why I didn't. I grew up in the church, you know. I'll tell you a real funny story. They were trying to baptize me. I must have been five or six in the Apostolic Church, you know, that's, that's. Everything's a sin. Yes ma', am, rolling your lip is a sin. Anyway, they're getting ready to baptize me. And you know, they dunk you down in the water and stuff and they say to me, will you take. Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior? Now this is way back when, that's how old I am. When Jesus was still on the cross with the little droplets of blood on his hands. I, me, the brilliant child, I look up and I say, who him? He can't help. You know, I got beat in the until tomorrow, you know that, right? I said, who him? He can't help me because, you know, he's down off the cross now. You don't see him. But we were fed religion, we were told what to do. We weren't taught to build A relationship. And it took me a long time to know that it wasn't about the doing of it. It was about the being in relationship in the presence, being present in the prayer, being still, and knowing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When did you learn to pray?

[Angela Rye]

And I beg when the begging wasn't working. I just got tired of begging. And then I said, okay, what am I doing wrong? I'm begging, and you're not paying attention. And this is not the way a God is supposed to respond. When I learned two things. How to be still and how to know how to be still within my mind, my heart, spiritual hygiene, and how to know when I was in the presence, not when I was reaching out, but when I was turning in. And that was it for me. Instead of going out, go in.

[Announcer]

I remember you did the. You had the really big daddyless daughter segments that you would do, and you would talk about the sons, like, the things that they need to like, or the words they need to know, like, daddy's gone. And just the reality of, like, moving forward from.

[DJ Envy]

And I remembered right now, right.

[Announcer]

No, I'm not triggered, but I used to watch. I used to watch the show because me and my dad at that time, it was like, early on in us trying to figure out, okay, he's new back into my life, how do I feel? Do I have questions? And I. I got to a point where I was like, all right, you weren't here. Here's where my life is. Like, I don't want to be a victim or like a product of that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She was Daddy.

[Announcer]

Listen, I just said that. Stupid.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just want to make sure she understands.

[Announcer]

But your. Your series. Your series helped me, though, because my mom was one of them people that was like, very like. She just act like it didn't happen. You were. You acknowledged that it happened, but you didn't let people live in it. So it helped me to realize, like, okay, what are we going to do here? Like, what. What are we going to do with the relationship? Or what are we going to do with yourself and how you feel about that? And if it's not accepted from him or responded to in the way you want, you just. You can only control yourself.

[Angela Rye]

Yeah. But you. Because you get to choose, and he gets to choose. And sometimes the shame of it, the guilt of it, a lot of dads, moms, people can't show up. Husbands who cheat come back and they can never get it together. Or wives. Because. Did you know wives were cheating?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Black men don't cheat, but boy, what

[Angela Rye]

like women, you don't Your nose is growing. Let me move.

[DJ Envy]

Exactly.

[Angela Rye]

Yeah. But, you know, my. My hope, my prayer, and I. I appreciate so many people are so excited about the show, about the book, and may my legacy be, if nothing else, that I gave people skills and tools to take responsibility for themselves. Because the world we're in right now, the mess that we're in, is because we were anticipating somebody else doing for us what we needed to do for ourselves. And so we got to do the work. You have to do your work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Accountability is a hard concept for a lot of people to grasp, Ms.

[Angela Rye]

Von Zein. Awareness, accountability, and integrity. Integrity where your mind, your heart, and what you do are all aligned. Very often people think one thing, feel something, and do something else. Get an integrity, line it up, and be willing to piss people off to maintain your own integrity. Honor yourself. Don't set yourself on fire to keep other people warm. Don't dim your light like that. Take responsibility and just embrace everybody and the process.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You always say healing isn't pretty. Why do people romanticize spirituality but reject the mess that's required to actually evolve?

[Angela Rye]

Intellectualizing the spirit like people think spiritual people shouldn't get angry. I'm from Brooklyn. I don't get angry. I get pissed the f off. And I'm coming for you now.

[DJ Envy]

Revenge.

[Angela Rye]

Okay. All right. You know what I'm talking about. I. I grew up with the bodega on the corner, okay? So I just don't do that. I'm responsible for myself when I do it, if I do it, and I don't stay stuck there. And that's not going to become an identity for me. Let me see you abuse a child. I'm coming for you. All guns drawn, cussing like a sailor, and hit you in your head, punch you right in your throat.

[Announcer]

Okay?

[Angela Rye]

Disrespect a woman in my presence. I'm coming for you. You know, so even though I'm a deeply spiritual person, there's some times when you have to, again, throw cold water in somebody's face. But people want to intellectualize spirituality. Oh, you. You have to be kind and loving. Yes, you do all the not. But sometimes you are human. And it's okay in terms of it being healing, not being pretty. It's because most of us are not aware of the depth of healing that is required and not aware. We think it's just if he would behave or if they would come back or if they would say, I'm sorry, that it would be okay. It's so much deeper than that. So much deeper. And most People are afraid to go in. And I, when I say most people, I'm not generalizing. I'm speaking about in terms of the years that I've been doing this work and what I've seen, what I've seen. Don't want to go within, don't want to look at within. Don't want to do the spiritual hygiene. No, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is there a difference between being spiritual, spiritually clean and being spiritually sterile? And what I mean by that, can we ever over sanitize ourselves out of just human connection?

[Angela Rye]

And not that, I don't know, spiritually clean, you, you're still among everybody. If you're not connected, then you're not spiritual at all. Because the deepest part of spirituality is connection. So I, I don't know about spiritual, sterile. Let me write that down. Because, you know, I forget.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Some people try to, like you said, they try to set so many boundaries and they intellectualize spirituality. To think that they gotta be away from people and be apart from people. That, to me, that's not.

[Angela Rye]

But some of them do. I mean, look at the monks. Some of them, that's their mission. That's their ministry. That's what they do. They go out there. I'm, I'm not, I'm not on that committee. I'm not on that committee. I'm a. I'm on the people committee. But I. But spiritually sterile. I don't know. That's a good. Thank you for that. That'll be my next book.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love Spiritual hygiene, man, because there's a rapper named DG Ola, he had a song, it's a. I, I call it a Negro Spiritual Call Ain't Gonna Let Up. And in the song he said, get yourself together. Go get your brain a bath. Go to church, Start listening. Get on the right path. And that's what spiritual hydrogen is. Clean up your spiritual hygiene.

[Angela Rye]

And I, you know, I, I'm. I really, for me, the greatest thing was to see how far I've come because I wasn't spiritually clean. I wasn't. And to see how far I've come and look at the experiences that I've had. The divorce, the death of my partner, my losing two daughters. All of it. All of it. And to see how far I've come. You know, you can't fall off the floor. So I was on the floor. So to see how far I've come from how far down I was is humbling. It's really humbling because millions didn't make it.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you for joining us.

[Angela Rye]

Thank you for having me.

[Announcer]

I really.

[DJ Envy]

It was a lot of fun.

[Angela Rye]

And I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can I say this too?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Angela Rye]

First of all, you are absolutely gorgeous.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank.

[Angela Rye]

You know that, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, ma'.

[Angela Rye]

Am. Don't let Charlemagne tell you anything. Anything.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Okay.

[Angela Rye]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Can you tell it to Lauren too?

[Angela Rye]

Yeah, well, she knows she's the baby girl. She just a beauty.

[Caller - Calvina]

Little funkin in her face, I've been told.

[DJ Envy]

Charlamagne. Don't bother.

[Hilarious]

That's what.

[DJ Envy]

That was the part I meant.

[Angela Rye]

Don't bother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't bother.

[Announcer]

Yes, he does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've been trying to get her to get her spiritual hygiene clean.

[Angela Rye]

I am so proud of you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Angela Rye]

Really, as an og, I am so proud of you and the way that you present. I mean, sometimes you all do a little controversial, but that's okay. I'm og But I can do this. My little ones keep me up to date. Continue to represent yourselves and us in this really powerful, productive way. I was so excited when I heard about Netflix.

[State Farm Advertiser]

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[Angela Rye]

So just continue to do it. Okay?

[DJ Envy]

All right. There you have it. It's your Breakfast Club.

[Angela Rye]

Good morning.

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[DJ Envy]

Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. If you're just joining us, we're talking about something that Keke Palmer said about marriage.

[Hilarious]

Let's listen.

[Angela Rye]

One thing I need you to know is that I never want to live together. I like my alone time. But is that real? That's real. I just feel like, you know, Whoopi Goldberg said it best one she was like I don't want nobody in my house.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

House.

[Angela Rye]

Yeah, marry. Even if he's gonna live around the corner. Around the corner Would be great.

[Hilarious]

What about a guest?

[Angela Rye]

Would you let him live in the guest house? He can be in a guest house. You know what I'm saying? We can be on the same, you know, land, But I'm over there and he's over there. At best, separate rooms. But think about how fun it would be to be like, I'm going over to my man's house.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah, it keeps things right exciting.

[Angela Rye]

I want to go sit on his couch.

[Commercial Announcer]

And he better clean when you're coming.

[Angela Rye]

That's what I'm saying. You know what?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

I will say?

[Angela Rye]

I'm laughing about it. But there are probably people watching right now who agree with you. Come on.

[Anabe Sofa Advertiser]

It just helps to keep.

[Angela Rye]

I feel like sometimes you can be just too up under.

[DJ Envy]

So we're taking your calls. 800-585-1051. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Oh, my God, it's Liz. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

Now, Liz, are you married and you and your spouse don't live in the same home?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Yes, I am married, and we are not living in the same home. We just recently got married.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Congratulations. Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, just now of 2025.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now the floor is yours. I will listen to you. Now tell me why y' all not living together.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Well, right now, we're trying to sort things out. That's number one. He has his own apartment leases and stuff like that. But let me tell you something. I was in a relationship for five years, and it was the worst of the worst. The breakup was horrible. I ended up with nothing. I had to leave the apartment. It was just starting over. I understand where she's coming from. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's hard to trust someone when, like, you know, if it doesn't end well, what's gonna happen with the lease? And then you have things invested. What if you don't get the things back?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So why did you get married again, baby? Don't really sound like you were ready

[Hilarious]

for that because you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You still hurt from that five year relationship. You know, you jumped the burn again a little too quick.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Relationship, it healed. It was actually ended three years ago. And I actually met this person a year ago. And he actually is slowly and accepting of what I went through, so he's actually allowing me to be me.

[DJ Envy]

So y' all don't live with each other and y' all not moving in with each other. Y' all gonna keep it that way, separate?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I think they're going to.

[Caller - Calvina]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

We're definitely gonna move in. But I understand where she's coming from. I'm a little scared now. Listen.

[Lil Fizz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is he scared to move in with you because you Latino at a time like this. Damn.

[DJ Envy]

My God.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Literally, he is capable of. It's just like I said, you have to really kind of know the person. But I also took time to heal.

[DJ Envy]

I think he was talking like,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the race of your. Your husband?

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Well, my. He's white.

[Hilarious]

You right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My suspicion was right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Definitely should be scared.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's a little scared. He's scared to move in with you. You know, you might get that knock at the door. I'm just saying, you guys, you might get that knock.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn.

[Caller - Calvina]

No, no, no.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Poor thing. He's not going to get the knock. We're well documented, so that's not an issue. But it was like I said it was. I had to take time to heal. Like, I didn't want whoever was. It was.

[Caller - Calvina]

Yeah, whatever.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Man came to my house. I was like, you're not going home. Like, you don't have a home.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn. So, yeah, she a little scared, but congratulations on you getting married. I think that's dope. That's fire. But, like, I think you should, like, do some type of therapy to get over you being scared to live with your spouse. I mean, because it's just still, like, you still hurt from that. You know what I mean? I know it was three years ago. That seemed like a long time to you, but you taking that into your new marriage, you know what I'm saying?

[Angela Rye]

Yes.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

And you know what's so crazy? Charlemagne. It's crazy because when I used to be with my ex partner, we used to listen to, like, the Breakfast Club, and I always used to be like, oh, my God. I do not like Charlemagne. I feel like he is so judgmental.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

Like, why? That's his personality. But it's so crazy. It was my first time in a while listening to you guys, and I was just like, wow. Like, I have progressed because I. I used to ignore your. Your whole morning show because of what I went through.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, well, I'm glad you healed, mama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I'm not judgmental. I just judge certain situations.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Very judgmental.

[Caller - Calvina]

No, no, no.

[Caller - Tomorrow]

You're amazing. Let me tell you something. I heard your podcast with Mel Robbins. You are amazing. You're a very great speaker. So believe it or not, you're amazing, and I love you guys so much. Have a wonderful, wonderful day.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I love you.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, what's the moral of the story? If there's a moral.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't listen to married, unmarried people about marriage, about Marriage.

[Angela Rye]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I only want to talk to people who have done this successfully that are, are happily married.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But I guarantee you Kiki feels like that because of what she went through with her son's father and guarantee you that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like people say that until they find the right person, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you find that right person, you want to be with that person 24, 7, 365. That's the whole beauty of marriage.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Absolutely. Some of us stay in relationships too long, that that's not good for us. We stay in it too long and that's how you end up hurt. And, and just like what Kiki said,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you was trying, you had.

[Angela Rye]

Bring it home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then the I thought you was bringing

[Hilarious]

it home, bringing it home and you just stop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought you had it.

[DJ Envy]

You just stop. You almost had it.

[Hilarious]

You almost got there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Almost got there. You gave up on yourself. I was like, okay, she got it. She got it.

[Angela Rye]

Let it be silent too long.

[DJ Envy]

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