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Plus you, the parent can contact the driver directly from the app. Add your teen to your account today. Available in select locations. See app for details. Good morning, usa. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Jess. Hilarious. Good morning. Today's Wednesday and Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you and yours. Hopefully you're with family, you're on your way to hang out with family, or you're just relaxing and enjoying your time off. If you have your time off, today is all about inspiration this morning. I mean, it's Christmas, right? So we have Sarah, Jake Roberts joining us this morning. Kirk Franklin and Ty Tribbett. All right, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed, so you better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who this? Hey, this is Lauren from New York. Hey, Lauren. Come on and get it off your chest, Lauren. Okay. Basically, I'm calling because I'm very upset. I met someone. I felt like he was the love of my life after a year. And then one morning, Ice just came and took him away from my house, and I never heard from him again. So. Ice. Ice. I'm a little pissy. Yeah, Ice. Where's he from? He was Mexican. No, Jamaican. Oh, he was Jamaican. So he didn't have his papers, though? No, I mean, I guess I think he did. He had a whole life here. But I'm not sure what the issue is. If Ice came to get him, he ain't had his papers, right? He was trying to marry you to get that green card. Oh, my God. Oh, God. I'm just been in shock. I've been very upset, like, they took my baby. Like, I just can't. Why's Jamaica? Huh? Go to Jamaica. Whoa. Are you sure that's my baby. I love him. Go to Jamaica. No. Are you sure? Are you sure they took him? Are you sure they took him? Or he might have just been over you and had some people come over and pretend to be Ice? Gotta go back home. No, they took him. They came after him like he owes something to the devil, to himself. They threw him on the ground and called him all types of names. And you can't find him? And you can't find him? No, I don't know. Nope, nope. What's his name? I'm not gonna say that. Well, you ain't trying to find. Right. Okay. As simple as that. You don't care about that, man. Wow. That's crazy. You don't want to move to Jamaica. You don't want to shout him out over the radio. I ain't really trying to find him. I ain't say move. I just said go. Damn. She like, not ill. She said the man is married, though. No, no, I didn't say he was married. I need to understand what he did first before. I'm just. Oh, what's going over there? Like, I don't even know what he did. That's your baby. I know. It's one day they your baby, the next day they something else. I don't know. You were fine. We were fine. Goodbye, Lauren. She just woke up thinking about him. Hello? Who's this? Yes, sir, it's J A from Empty. J A. Get it off your chest. So, interesting enough, I get through every time. I call you guys every week and charlamagne shows love Jeff sometime, but DJ envy hangs up on me every week and today it's gotta stop. I agree with you. So I just need him to work on his attitude. That's it. That's all I need to say. I'll say sometime. Why would you hang up on that, man? That's disrespectful. That might have been God testing you, you know. No, it's not. He's still there. He still there. That might have been God. You have a great day. You have a great week. Okay, bye. Exactly. You hung up on that man. That was God. That was God testing you and you failed. He was right there. He wanted to get back, he wanted to hang up. He went hanging up on me too. All right. We even joke. Hello? Who's this? Yo, what's happening? It's your boy John, man. What up, Envy, Charlemagne and garden. Beautiful chess. Good morning. What's happening, man? I gotta get it off my chest, man. Listen, man, check this out. I just got off at 6:00, right? I'm trying to go to McDonald's to get me a nice fresh, hot sausage and cheese McMuffin. Pause these mother got the nerve to have an attitude because they late. I supposed to be open at 6:00. It's 6:10. Y'all ain't open up yet, then we gotta wait two, three minutes if we short staffed and all that. Yo, listen, man, it's not my problem, bro. Get my goddamn business, man. Well, that's not the attitude. I understand, but that's not the attitude to have. Everybody's probably a little stressed out this morning, okay? Yeah. But they still have to be able to maintain a level of professionalism because the customers is never, always is never wrong. Well, I don't believe that, but not in this case. This same thing happened yesterday. They was late opening up yesterday, Bro, I order the same McMuffin every morning when I get over six, man. It's nothing. But what city? Where you from, bro? I'm in Georgia, man. I hate to say I'm in. I'm from New York. I'm from Brooklyn. So you going to stand my pain, man? I'm in Georgia. With this. We can't understand your pain. But I tell you one thing. Manners will take you where money won't. So if you just, you know, if. Especially if you go there all the time and you a nice person, they'll probably be happy to see you coming. Pause and. And I know Jess. This might trigger Jesse. She work there? No. Did it. Yo. Follow me on Instagram, man. Richfatherhood girl, did you ever have this problem when you worked at McDonald's? Why do we tell people to get it off their chest if you always got something to say when they getting it off, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, let's discuss this. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. I'm D. I'm D. Hey, what you doing, man? I'm dumb calling you. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or. Or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this? Yo, what's going on? It's Ted. What up, Ted? You said Ted? Yeah, Ted. Okay, Ted, Ted, Ted. Ted. Isn't Teddy. Yeah. All right, well, get it off your chest, Ted. I'm calling in early this morning, man. I'm gonna get off my chest. These sick ass out here making it hard for the real. This is why I say it ain't a stereotype if it's true because I knew something was up. I was about to ask you, what do you identify as? But I was gonna mind my business this morning. But you let the world know. Oh, definitely. I identify As a woman. Hey, what's the fake? You're a stud, though. Yeah, I'm a dude in the relationship. What's a fake? A fake would be something that you would call. It's kind of like double center. We already sinning out here anyway, doing what we doing. But it's like you and you're a stud, and you having sex with me. And on the low, you making it hard for us, the real ones out here. You can't be by stud. No, you can't be by stud. That ain't how we rolling. That's. That's triple sending now. Triple sending. What's the sin? I don't get what the sin is. I'm lost. We already double sin, and they already. By being what we are. You know what I'm saying? So you want people. You want the real studs of the world to just swear off they can't have no penis whatsoever? No. No nothing, man, just go vegan if you bet all. Jesus Christ. Wouldn't that be pescatarian? No. No, not either. Fish. Y'all eat fish? Yeah, we're gonna eat some fish, but, you know, the human body ain't fish. I hope they ain't eating fish. Okay, he wasn't talking. You know what? Never mind. All right, Ted, you have a good one, all right? Yeah, that's right, y'all listen to Ted, man. All y'all studs out there, stop faking the funk, all right? Leaving penises alone. Hello? Who's this? Yo, this Cliff. Cliff, what up? Get it off your chest. Yeah, I went to the boxing gym a few days ago. I don't know how I left. Oh, somebody put you on your ass. You don't know how you left. Somebody knocked you out. I don't know how I left the boxing gym. I don't know how I left. Hey, you don't play boxing, bro. Bro, we got Willie D in here. Willie D is a. Wait, what is it, Willie? What is it you said? Golden Glover, Golden Glove. Yeah, that's what's up. Yeah, but I don't know how I left, though. Maybe you shouldn't go back then, all right? Or maybe you should be boxing. How long you been training? I've been. I've been just doing sparring here and there. I never really trained with it. There's your problem. See? That's the problem. People just want to jump in and go in the gym and just start sparring. There's more to that, right? You're right. Yeah. You got hit in the nose. I don't know what he got hitting it but his phone ain't on more get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Out of every shiny nose and if you ever saw him, you would even say it Close. Come on, come on. Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed we have. Pastor Mike Todd. Welcome, brother. What's going on, fam? Y'all good? Yes, man. I'm blessed, man. I mean, I'm at the Breakfast Club. Hey, with y'all. I'm blessed, black, and highly favored. You are definitely black, blessed, and highly favored. It feels. I feel like all of us are blessed, black and highly fav. Absolutely feels good. Thank y'all for having me, man. Happy to have you, man. New book, Damaged But Not Destroyed From Trauma to Triumph. Yes, sir. Powerful title, bro. It's my life, okay? And it's honestly, I believe a lot of people's life that they don't share. You know, you see everybody, from people who've gone from the gutter to this big platform, or people who've just made it out of the hood or just made it from where they thought they would never come, but then they shut up and stop telling the actual story about how they got from where they were to where they are now. I have a theory about that. What is it? I think the theory now, like, I'm. I'm 45 years old, so. You look good. So growing. Thank you, brother. So growing up, you know, it was those stories of overcoming those stories of making mistakes and, you know, becoming a better person that we always gravitated towards, that we learned from nowadays because of this so called cancel culture. Yeah. Nobody wants to talk about the mistakes that they made, you know, nobody. Because they feel like they'll be judged for them and crucified for them, which they probably will. But it's temporary. Like, the truth of the matter is, because I'm a person of faith, I believe the truth of the matter is, though we overcome by the blood of the Lamb, that's what Christ has done. But the words of our own testimony. Even if you don't believe what I believe, the truth is when you see somebody else go through something and you make it through it, it gives you courage, it gives you hope, it gives you. Dang, maybe I can do that, too. And a lot of people are robbing other people of the fuel that they need to overcome their actual situation because they scared, number one. And number two is because they feel like maybe my worst moment defined me, but I found that in my worst moment, that's who. That's what made me. And so I just wanted to come, like, completely clean, completely raw. I say hot, humble, open and transparent. And I mean, it takes also the power out of what anybody can ever say about me. I used to. I know. I believe you. I agree with everything you say. I always say, live your truth so nobody can use your truth against you. But, boy, they will try. They'll try. The truth of the matter is. But if it's real, like, when you cut it open and it's real, and you actually grew from it, and you actually learned from the cheating, and you actually did the work and went to therapy, and you actually. Yeah, no, I did embezzle that money, but I'm not gonna do that never again. And, like, when you actually grow. I believe that this life is about progression, not perfection. And on the gram and in front of people, we're always trying to present perfection. But I really believe, like, when you cut it all down, it's one baby step in front of another baby step in front, another baby step, and you look up and like, how did I get here? It was a bunch of small moments that got you to that moment. How important is a support system, right? Because you came with your wife. Charlamagne's been with his wife 25. I've been with my wife 30. How important is that? Because a lot of times you hear people say, I don't need that, or, I'm looking for a guy that's gonna make this much money. But, yeah, that's dumb. They never talk about the heart. The truth of the matter is. You say, that's dumb. Yeah. Thank you for that. Say that loud. It's dumb. Like, I tell people all the time. I did a book. My first book was called Relationship Goals. And I have this whole chap chapter in the book about rip up your list. And I know people are going to say whatever they gonna say about, they got this list, you're still single. The truth of the matter is like. The truth of the matter is, is a lot of times God never hands you a finished product. He hands you something, you gotta work, right? And that's why IKEA is one of the greatest furniture companies, no matter what you think about it is they. They give you something that you have to put your hands to to assemble, and it gives people another greater level of satisfaction. Because when they actually put their hands in to happen. It feels like I've accomplished something. Relationship is the same way. God never td. Jake says it. God never gives you a table. He gives you a tree. That's right. The same thing with the relationship. And so I think many times people need to rip up their list and actually look for the things that are in the heart. You can't Instagram integrity, you can't Facebook faithfulness. Right? Like, and so look at my man. He da da. The. The greatest things that have made me and my wife's relationship work, I cannot show you on a post. It has to be lived out, proved out, and over time. And so when you say support system, bro, that is literally the only reason I'm here right now is because I got people who could see me at my worst and still think of me in my best situation. To still, like, while it still smells like that word that you said just a second ago, they still walking with me. And like, I'll actually be with you because I know it's not going to be like this the whole time. I tell people, community is everything. Having mentors is everything. Being around people that are further than you is everything. And if you're going to deal with your damage, you need that, because a lot of people do it in isolation. And Covid has really jacked up people. And when I say that, I'm not even talking from a health standpoint physically. I'm talking about a mental health standpoint, a spiritual health standpoint, a relational health standpoint. People went into their caves and started spectating on what everybody was doing, and it made them look out instead of look in. What was your breakthrough moment that inspired you to be so vulnerable in this book, bro? I have a son, our second son. His name is mj. My namesake, he has autism. And me and my wife, we're going through the height of our ministry and our business is growing and everything's exploding. My first book goes number one New York Times bestseller. I barely graduated English class. Like, I'm in a shock. And then our only son, we take him to the doctor and they're like, yeah, he's not progressing normally. He's not talking. He's not looking anymore. And he was going the right way. And then just something switched. And my motor has always been, let me be greater, let me be better, let me make more money, let me do this. And I tried to do everything I knew how to do, and it didn't fix nothing. Getting a bigger platform, writing another book, making more money. It didn't do anything. And so when my motor broke, it was like, what's going on? I'm watching my wife slip into depression. Nothing, nothing is working. And so I was like, hold on, we gotta start working on this. I was sitting with my mentor, Tim Ross, at a Crackle Barrel outside of Oklahoma City, and I was just telling him what I was going through and we started thinking about back over my life. And he said, yep. He was like, yeah, when did God's standard become lower than your standard? And I was like, what are you talking about? He was like, michael, you've been telling me all this stuff, you want to make better and you want it to be great. You keep using this word, great, great, great, great. He said, but in the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth, he looked at it, he said, it's good. And then he created the stars and he created the land and said, you go right here, you go right here. Created the animals, going through the whole creation. He said, it's good. Then he created man on the sixth day. And he said, you know what? That's very good. He said, if God's standard is good, why is yours great? Then he asked me this question. He said, when did you make a decision that good was not good enough? And immediately I went back to 12 years old when I'm in church. My parents raised us in church and I played drums since I was young. And I would go at 12 years old to the choir rehearsal because my dream was to play in big church. Like play with the big choir, like not the youth or the junior. I wanted to play and I was good. And I would go every Tuesday, only 12 year old there, and they would never let me play. They would tell me I was great. They would tell me that, man, you getting so good. Pinch my cheeks, take all the little stuff. But they would never let me play. They probably had a legitimate reason. But I remember sitting on that, that maroon chair in the back and deciding, I guess good is not good enough. I will only be great. And what ended up happening from 12 years old to 35 years old, I would not settle for anything good. And now I'm looking at my son and he's not good. And I couldn't rationalize or reconcile what was going on in me. And God was like, you're going to have to become okay with things being good. And I had to go and heal that 12 year old Michael to be able to even raise the 35 year old Michael and raise his son. And bro, I went on a Journey, bro. And man. Because I went on this healing journey, because I spent the money. Everybody talking about, invest in property. You're the only thing that is priceless. That's why I always say, invest in your mental wealth. Why won't you invest in yourself? That's right. You have to start from someplace, though. You got us. But that's why I went first. DJ Envy. This is why I wrote this book. This may not be my most popular book, but it's my most valuable book. Cause if anybody actually reads this, they gonna be like, dang, I can see myself. And maybe I'll take the first step. Right? All right, we got more with Pastor Mike Todd when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Yep, we're back. It's the Breakfast Club. And Pastor Mike Todd is here. His book, damaged but Not Destroyed from Trauma to Triumph, is out right now. Charlemagne. What are untransferred wounds? The truth of the matter is, every wound, every that you get has the ability to transfer to somebody else in your actions or in your non actions. And that's why I said earlier, what's not transformed is transferred. You got a lot of your mom and daddy in you that they didn't give you directly. They gave it to you because you received it. The way that you handle issues, the way that you go through stuff, we got a lot of stuff because they didn't handle it. I'll give a prime example. I tell it in the book. I had a pornography addiction. I mean, jacked up, taking my money, my mind, my focus. Your money. Oh, bro, porno is free. Yeah. Back in the day, you know. Okay, come on now. Don't act like you didn't 399 sometimes. Come on now. And if you was buying magazines or if you doing any of that, Come on, let's be honest. It was robbing me. And the money was the least part of it. Well, I'm going through this whole thing by myself. I'm suffering, still trying to pray, still trying to love God, still trying to. And if somebody's like the pastor, I tell it every Sunday. Don't even trip, like, because we out here, every man is actually struggling with something. Okay? I'm out here addicted, trying to do what I've been called to do after I actually start going through the process of healing and making decisions and making disciplines and being accountable and all this other stuff. I found out my dad, he was a drum major for Gramlin State University. And they came to New York There was a street back in the day. Now, this is back back in the day where they had peep shows down the whole street. That's 42nd street. Okay? So he know the street, 42nd street. And he said, back in the day, they got here on the bus, and he said he got a pocket full of quarters, and you could go and you could put the money in the machine, and then the curtain would open and you see naked women. Back in the day, that was the equivalent of pornography. He said. After I told him what I was going through, he said, michael, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I never told you about it. I'm sorry I never dealt with it publicly. I'm sorry that I did this. He said, because I had five sons, and every single one of my brothers and me dealt with the sexual addiction, because what was not transformed in him was transferred into us. Do you get counseling from other. Other pastors? Yeah, definitely. People have been in the game a lot longer than me has. TD Jakes. Yeah, man, we had an awesome meeting for probably about five hours at a restaurant. TD Jakes, he's like the OG of OGs. So. So he. We met, and it was, like, in this secret building that was unmarked. And we went up and, like, you hit the floor, and it's like a restaurant. I'm like, where am I? It's like me with the Godfather. You understand? Yeah. And I'm like. I'm like, what is going on? And that man just began to pour into me. I love T.D. jakes. I love him, too, as just somebody who talks even more than preaching. If you ever get to just talk to him, that mentorship, Mentorship from Tim Ross, mentorship from Robert Morris, mentorship from Steven Furtick, mentorship from all. Like, it's invaluable what you learn from people who've been damaged. It's invaluable what you can learn from somebody who will share from their damage. And that's what all of those men did. Like, if I think about it right now, like, I'm thinking you call it mentoring, but all mentor mentoring, it really is, is people showing you where they messed up, where they should have done it differently, sharing from their damage, and it helps push you into your destiny. Was this after the spit incident? No, bro, that was before. Okay. The spit hits the fan. That's what I call it. Spit hits the fan. Break it down. People don't know. I know. We reported a long time ago. First off, let me say this. I am not a regular preacher. Like, the holidays are about spending time with your loved ones and creating magical memories that will last a lifetime. So whether it's family and friends you haven't seen in a while, or those who you see all the time, share holiday magic this season with an ice cold Coca Cola. Copyright 2024 the Coca Cola Company hey comedy fans. The funniest comedians in the world are on tour and you can get tickets to see them live near you. Laugh at the biggest names in comedy like Atsuko Okatsuka, Chelsea Handler, Jimmy Carr, Kathy Griffin, Matt Matthews, Matt Rife, Sarah Silverman, Sebastian Maniscalco, Stavros Helkias, Wanda, and so many more. All kinds of shows, all kinds of venues, all kinds of funny. Head to livenation.comcomedy to get your tickets today. 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And so this is an example I'd done three times before. And this is with my blood little brother. This is not some random audience member or anything like this. Now this is a brother. We fought blood. Like this is my little brother and he wanted to do the example with me so I could show it. And the whole idea was many people will not be willing to go through a messy process to get their healing. So the idea was this man was blind, he wasn't deaf. So if Jesus is about to spit, he's standing there in front of Jesus and he can hear. Like if you hear somebody about the huckle hoopie, you're like, oh my God. And I was trying to say, as disgusting as this is, that man stayed there and he received something that nobody else could give him. And as I was saying that, I said maybe you the counseling would be messy for you, maybe apologizing would be messing for you, maybe downsizing your house would be messy for you after you've put on this whole thing about how God blessed you. But what if on the other side of this mess was your healing? And I did the example, it worked too well. And, and by that night we was on tmz, cnn, next morning, Breakfast Club, all that other stuff. And it was somebody has was saying to me the other day, they was like, do you wish it wouldn't have happened? I was like, honestly no. It shocked me. But what I had to deal with internally and what I had to become okay with Inside of me because of that situation. It made me into a man that I would have never met had it not happened. It changed my whole view of who I was called to reach and how much I needed anybody's applause. Damaged but not destroyed. What do you hope people get from this book, man? I believe that if you read this book and actually do the work that's in here, I tell people this all the time. It may not have been your fault what happened to you, but it is now your responsibility. It's time to do the work. And I'm just here to say I've had to do the work in front of people. Like, with hundreds of thousand people watching me, judging me, all this stuff. You can do this work? That's right. No matter where you are, how much money you have, what your family thinks about it, you will become a different person that will be able to actually be a blessing to other people. The healed version of you is better than the version of you that you have right now. I dedicated this book to my great grandkids. Like, in the dedication now, my oldest daughter's 10. And I dedicated it because the Bible says a good man leaves an inheritance for his children's children. And yes, I want to leave them houses, and yes, I want to lead them investments, but I want to leave them emotional health. I pray one day my grandson picks this book up and is able to say, my grandpapa dealt with his stuff. And I know I'm struggling right now because life be lifein'and, everybody's gonna go through it, but God be God, but God be God and therapy be therapy. And that's why the back of the. It's a double cover. The front is me smiling. That's the triumph. But the back of it is me, my dad, my four brothers, and my son. This is a picture of all of us. It looks like me, but it's all of us. Because your damage affects every person you say you love. So if you want to do the work, join me. Damage, but not destroy. Let's leave on a prayer. You want me pray for you? Of course. Pray for it. Pray for it. Father, we just thank you for this opportunity to be here, to be in this moment, to be with you. For everybody listening and with my four brothers in the room, I thank you, Father, that something was said here that sparks their faith to believe that you can help them deal with their damage. God, we got different relationships, different responsibilities, different pains, different hurts. But, God, you know them all. I thank you that by faith, something is about to change on the inside of every person, under the sound of my voice, bring back a moment, a memory, a reason why they need to make this step. And I thank you that no matter what has happened to them, no matter how bad or how good, I thank you that you can take our trauma and you can turn it into triumph. You can take our pain and you can turn it into platform. Father, I thank you for all the people who are damaged but not destroyed. Bless them is my prayer. In Jesus name, we agree. Amen. Amen. Ladies and gentlemen, Pastor Mike Todd. We appreciate you, brother. I appreciate y'all. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, Big Mac, one of our producers up here, you know him from Wild N Out, he got pretty upset, and that's because Jess Hilarious, our very own Jess Hilarious, had a baby shower and didn't invite him. And he's mentioned it several times, and he's pretty upset about it. He's even said that you guys shoot skits together. You guys do the eating videos with each other, and he was pretty hurt about it. I'm gonna be honest with you. All of those things are things that it feels like Jess Hilarious is forced to do, because Jess gonna eat regardless because she pregnant. You know what I mean? So I think Mac is using her as an excuse to eat more. And the skit thing is all about showing stomachs. Oh. So, yes, Jess is showing her stomach for nine months. After nine months, you're not gonna have a stomach. Mac has had that stomach at least 30 years. At least 30. How long he was an intern up here? How long ago? About, like, 15. 15 years ago. So I'm gonna get. I'm gonna say he had that stomach for 30 years. So whose stomach. Who you gonna do that with when Jeff's gone? Mac. He's not gonna do it with me. He's not going talk. He not even. We not even going to be thinking about doing him somewhere after I come back. So, Jess, how come you didn't invite Mac? Just because I don't see it. For real. Y'all know I am not a good liar. Yo. I. No, I just. No, like, it's just. Cause you ain't think of him. That's really. That's the reality of it. You ain't think of them just. Just because I knew. Jess told me about the baby shower two months ago, and I knew I was gonna be out the country anyway, so I couldn't attend, so she didn't want Mac dead. That's fine. And it's not even that she didn't not want Mac there. She just ain't. She wasn't thinking about Mac. Don't let her speak for herself. Maybe she didn't want Mac there, but that's what it was. No, it's not that I didn't want Mac dead. First of all, people love Mac. A lot of people love Mac, and they all know Mac, and my family know Max here. But no, that's just it. Like, what is wrong? It wasn't enough food, and I even invited your bald head ass to Indian. You ain't coming. You wasn't in Africa. I was. I had a show. I was out of town. I was in Columbia, South Carolina. Somebody just called. You was not in Columbia on the 4th. On Saturday, on the 6th, whatever day that was. Yeah, I was. I was on the Saturday. I was there. All right, then. Cool. All right, so it is what it is. But back to Mac. I will see you when I get back. Boo. Damn. Jaleesa. Hey, y'all. Hey, Jaleesa. Good morning, Charlemagne. Good morning, Envy. Good morning, Jess. Congratulations. Thank you, babe. Jaleesa, do you have co workers like that? Like. Yes, I've had multiple. They think they should be invited to everything. And I made the mistake before and became really close to my co worker, and it didn't work out. I end up having to get into a fist fight with one. Did you win? Damn. Because, listen, I'm Jamaican. I don't play that. I ain't ask you that, actually. Did you win? Oh, yes, I did. Yes, I did. Okay. But, yeah, so you can't mix business with, you know, personal. Your personal life. Not on a certain level. You know what I'm saying? So you got into a fist fight with a stud you was dating on your job? Jesus. Oh, my God. Stop. Tell the truth. Tell the truth. No, I did it. No, I did it. I can hear it in her voice. She don't want to admit it because she's Jamaican. Damn it, man. Bianca. Yeah. What's up, y'all? What's up? Good morning. Now, Bianca, this says your co workers be having parties and nobody be inviting you. Yeah, they don't be inviting me. Like, they be talking about, oh, we not inviting her, because basically I'm the new girl there. But they be thinking like it bothers me. I don't want to chill with y'all. Y'all old. Like 40 and up. Watch your mouth. How old are you? I'm 30. But you want to go? Because if you wouldn't Go. If you didn't want to go, you wouldn't be mentioning it. You bothered. You lie. I don't. I don't want to go. I don't want to go. I like being a homebody. You lying. You want to go hit the Electric Slide with the Mole Heads one time? Yes, you do. You lying your ass off. I'm just trying to be with the young kids. I'll be doing the hits with the young kids. Where you from? I'm from Harlem. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, that's. Yeah. So we be doing the little hits and stuff like that. My kids be laughing at me. Well, I hope that your co workers continue not to invite you. Damn. Damn. I hope so too. Cause I'm gonna be having my own party in my kids, with my kids. I see her whenever you hear somebody. I'm gonna have my own body. That's what Matt gonna say next. I'm gonna have my own baby shower. I gotta stomach. I look pregnant. Goodbye, Janine. Oh, my God. 800-585-1051. If you're just joining us, Big Mac, one of our producer up here was very upset that he didn't get invited to Jess Hilarious's birthday party. Baby shower. It was actually Chris birthday party because it was Chris birthday too. Chris of cancer? Yeah, Chris of cancer. July said, go ahead, Chris. But see, but. But you didn't even mention that you invited other people up here, but just not him. What is you talking about? Like, yo, 800-585-1051. Do you have a co worker that invites everybody but you to your party? Is it just you? Let's talk about it. It's the Breakfast Club. Yo. You changed it. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Hey, Ty. Tribute. Welcome, brother. Thanks for having me. What's up, y'all? How y'all feeling? Congratulations. You just won a Grammy. 2024 Grammy for best Gospel album. So congratulations. Oh, thank you. That's three in total. Yeah, three in total. Man, I'm so hype about that and excited. You know, I didn't. It wasn't needed, but it's a. It's appreciated. Do you pray for stuff like that? Nah, I used to. Okay. Okay. I used to, but I had to get my, you know, the reason why I do what I do. I had to get that in order. I had, you know. Yeah. Intention. Exactly. Last year, I was nominated for two Grammys, and I just knew I Was gonna walk away with at least one. And when I walked away with none, it was like a soul check for me. Like, all right, well, why do you do what you do, bro? You gotta just. Just kind of reevaluate all of that stuff. So I kind of like, stop needing it or stop wanting it so bad and stop so ambitiously going for it. Just stick to it. The reason why I do what I do, have fun doing it. Bless the people. Show love. Give them Christ. And this year, when I walked away with it, yo, we literally sat, like, in the back. Cause the Gospels, they don't present the gospel on the Grammys. We got the pre awards. They could do us, like 9 o'clock in the morning. You know what? I' I had to wake up early, and we went to the pre show, and it's open seating there, so you can sit anywhere you want. So my manager like, yo, come on, let's. Let's go to the front, bro. I'm like, nah, man, I'm just gonna sit back here. We're gonna take an L. I don't like that long walk of shame. It's too far. So let's just stay close to the exit. So we was in the back chilling. I got it all on video. And they called in everybody's name. Of course, when they called my name, I was like, what? Because I was really content. I had to learn really con just to be content. Because, you know, being overly ambitious just robs you of gratitude. Then you just get out and feel like going down that rabb. So just love it. You had to take that long walk up to the stage. Then I had to take that long run. I was running like, oh, my goodness. Trying to figure out what I'm gonna say on the way. Because I literally didn't expect to win. But, you know, I was gonna be there to show them how to be a good sore loser in Christ. I want to ask you what I'm saying with being a gospel singer. Do you feel like it's a lot of pressure on you? Where it's almost like people look at your life differently, right? It's almost like they want you to be perfect. Do you have a hard time dealing with that? I dealt with that before I became a gospel artist. So. Speaking of growing up in this small church, my grandmother was the pastor first. My dad was on the organ. I'm watching him every Sunday, like, oh, my God, this guy is amazing. I start playing. Then he became the pastor. So I got that pressure as a pk, the perfection all of that. All of that. I got all of that pressure as. As a young kid, like 12, nine, when I was. Since I was. Since I've been born, spotlight's been on me to be the poster child for what Christ is. I'm like, yo. And pastor kids be the worst. Yeah, they do. Because of the pressure, though. Yeah. Because of the pressure leads you to a life of crime. Damn. Too much handcuffs leads to rebellion, man. You know what I mean? That legal and that religious structure, it leads to like, yo, I'm not cut out for this. I didn't sign up for this. Y'all sign up for this. Yeah. And the expectation is too much for me, yo. So I. I just rebel. People go completely opposite of the ways that their parents bring them up when you bring them up. Too strict. I came up the same way. I had the pressure of perfection, and I tried to live up to it until my parents got a divorce, and I'm like, whoa. In my day, that was like, you know, it's normal now. Every day. It happens every day. Back then, it was like a culture shock for me. It shattered my whole world. I was like, bump the church. Then what I'm doing here? Why am I being favored to God? And here, man, my dad, I'm out. You know what I'm saying? That's when I went to all the clubs, did all that stuff. I didn't dance, though. I just played at all the clubs. I didn't. You know, I still didn't drink, didn't smoke. Yeah. I just went and played the keyboard at all the club for, like, music. Soul Child, Jill Scott, everybody in the Philadelphia area, the Roots and all that stuff. So I'm in there playing hymns to the beats. They don't even know what I'm doing. But I kind of had my little rebellious moment during that time just to find out who I am outside of y'all expectations, man, outside of who y'all saying God is to me. Let me find him for myself. Let me figure out who I am for myself. And it's been the most liberating thing, and I've been walking in that since. Did a lot of those triggers resurface in your marriage when you got separated? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, me and my wife separated. It was. It was. It was bad, yo. It was. It was very, very bad for me because I didn't think my whole thing. When my father messed up with my dad, I'm like, I ain't never gonna be like him. I'm never gonna do that. So I went the pride way. So my heart just really was like, you know what I mean? I got more exposure than he ever got. I got more notoriety he ever got. And I'm still ain't gonna do what he did. I'm still. Man, that pride comes before a fall. And I fell hard and I moved to la. My wife was in Jersey. We just separated. I didn't think we would ever, you know, get back together again. I was just out there working on me. She was out there. She was out there working on her. Not really trying to get the marriage back together. And I think when you try to do that too soon, sometimes you, you, you. You damage. You know, you damage it because you just. Your point is just to try to get them get back together but not work on you, because you still got stuff. You got to work. I still had stuff I had to work on. I still had weaknesses I had to work on. And so I'm out there working on me. She's working on her. I'm praying, she's praying. And God kind of just brought our hearts back together. But through that whole time, I realized my mortality. I realized my humanism, I realized my weaknesses. I realized who I was for real. Like, this religious perspective, I became that, like. Like now I'm a pastor, right? But I don't say I'm a pastor. I'm just. I'm just a child of God with an assignment. You understand what I'm saying? I'm a child of God who got something to say to a certain group of people. I don't become my assignment, you understand what I'm saying? But that's the world today. If I were to meet you in the street, the first thing I'll say is, what do you do? Not who are you? You understand what I'm saying? And I think we lose who we are and what we do. And that's what I did. I got lost in all of that, and I forgot who I was. I think you and your whole situation is just a testament to the glory of God. You and your wife are together now, right? Yeah, she's right here. Right behind me, man. I'm Shantae in the building. How you. Good girl. And she survived the car. Y'all been through a lot. Yeah, a whole. A whole. A whole lot. It seemed like a series of unfortunate events, you know what I'm saying? And her life, I mean, it's just. It just. It just starts from. I was gonna say it starts from birth. Everybody's life starts from birth. But with the with growing up with parents like I had, and she was basically fatherless for a long period of time. You grow up with a whole lot of unmet needs, you know what I mean? You have needs as a child that you should have met, that you don't have. Security, protection, encouragement, validation. All of these things. We. We affection. We. We have to grow up without that. Right. So now we got to make the choice of either, like, living without it or killing the desire, period. So now we commit what we call, my man Tim Fletcher calls soul suicide. So you commit soul suicide because as a child, a three year old, I need affection. I don't know. I need it, but naturally I need it. And if I don't get it, I just kill the desire for it. So now I'm in a relationship and I don't know how to be affectionate. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? Or I got kids, and I don't know how that. Because I've been killed. That. So now we're trying to, like, restore those things and. And trying to do it in the context of marriage. I married her at 18. I was 21. So that's a. That's a kid. Those are kids. When I look at them, them ages now, I'm like, man, that was a kid. That's a really little kid, huh? How long y'all been together? 28 now. Yeah, that's 28 years. Me and my wife 26. Oh, for real? And me and his wife, 30. Oh, word. Yeah. Oh, congrats, bro. All right, we got more with Todd Tribbett when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jessilari Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Ty Tribute. It seems like for a while, maybe the last 10 years, it seems like being a pastor was cool, right? So it was like. Like everybody wanted to be a rapper, Everybody wanted to be a podcast host. And it seems like a lot of people wanted to be a pastor for the wrong reasons. Yeah. How do you feel about that? You missed that era. The pastor Eric. I don't remember the past, you know, man, it was building them huge churches. Everybody was. I think the pastor phenomenon came from. Oh, man. Getting money, it's a bunch of different things. You can speak to it more, but I think getting money in the church and how you look and how you're praised is. And you forget that he's supposed to be praised, but how he praise you and all that Type of stuff. So, yeah, I see a lot of Instagram pieces out there. But, you know, it is what it is. You killed it. You killed that whole thing. I think a lot of pastors were not, not called the pastor. They just, you know, study, you go to school, and then you just become a pastor. Like you become a manager at, you know, Publix or something like that. And that's. That's unfortunate for a lot of people who invest their, you know, money, time, attention, and their soul into people who they believe are literally called from God. I don't believe a lot of pastors are. I think, I think it's a system now. Oh, God. It's a system. Everything is a system. And systems work with or without God. So I think the institution of church is whack. I think how church is ran is whack. I think the religious system and structure is whack. I don't subscribe to it, even though I grew up in it. I benefited from it. But I learned that God is not the church. And once I realized, whoa, God ain't church for me, you know what I mean? I ain't from the streets, I'm from the church. So that was a huge thing as well. It's in the Bible. It says you can't even find God in a man made temple. Why don't we read that though? How often do you hear that sermon? No, you hear people. Pastors make the people about the church. We got the church name, we church and the church and the bumper stick of the church. The church should be about the people. The church should be about the people. But the church makes the people about the church. So all churches now are a movement, but they're not about the people. They're not about serving and loving the people. So I just kind of pulled that. We online right now. We're not even in a building, a physical building or nothing like that. So live church. Shout out. Live church. I love y'all so much. Let me ask you a question, right? So growing up in Queens, I went to Catholic school, right? My zone school was the worst. So my parents was making me go to Catholic school. I wasn't going to Andrew Jackson, but I noticed in Catholic school as a kid, Catholic school's 30, 30 minutes, maybe 35. You up out of there. It's, I don't know, bang, ding, gone. I'm back home. Baptist church is three hours, you know what I mean? So we got more to say. But as a kid, you know, you feel like I get everything I need in this 30 minutes. I don't need this in three and a half hours. So I always wonder, like, why is the church so long? Because, you know, you got announcements, then you passed it. You gonna pass it around twice, then sister so and so gotta talk about. And if you don't give enough on the first offering, oh, you gotta come back. I know y'all got 50 more. We almost reached our goal. We ain't there yet. They double back. You know what I mean? And I think that's part of it. Why it's so long. Yeah, I think churches have changed since then. I don't think churches is three hours like that anymore. I've seen church structures like 90 minutes, you know what I'm saying? They try to be more mindful of that in the more, you know, current churches and stuff like that. Yeah, they try to. They try to cut that down a little bit. But I think the reason is, is people just have a lot of expression, man. They got a lot of. They got a lot to say. They got a lot to. To get out. You understand what I'm saying? I hated the long churches. I grew up Pentecostal, so I'm Pentecostal. Church. Church. What? Three hours. That's it. We just getting right, yo. Three. When you say three hours? Like what? Man, we just getting started. We had nothing else to do. We had no social media. Sundays was for God. So we was gonna stay all Sunday. So after the five hours service. After the five hour service, you. You. Come on. You what? You better stay for that second service. We got people coming from Baltimore. I hated that. But I'm so glad it was like that for me as a. As a young jit. You understand what I'm saying? I'm so glad it was like that for me because it just kept me from a whole lot. Is it true that you worked on Justin Timberlake's Cry Me a River? Yeah, I worked on. I was. We was in the Root studio again. Growing up in the Philly. Camden, Philly area. We did our first album at the Root studio. Crazy how we got signed, too. Vivian Green is like a R and B, these soul artists. And she was doing a showcase for Tommy Mottola and Donnie Einer and the Mapsoni. And she said, ty, you know, I was like her cousin at the time. We were like, real close. Ty, I want you to MD my showcase. I said, all right. Bet. I got a little. Couple people from the choir, a couple people from the band. We just put together a little show for Viv. So speaking of energy, and all that. We in there with Tommy Mottola and Donnie Iron and all these people at Columbia. And I'm just a young. You know, I'm just playing. I'm like this all the time. If I'm playing, everything is energetic. So they like, we love Vivian Green. We're gonna sign her to Columbia, and we're gonna sign this guy right here. Who's that? And it was like, oh, no, no, no, no. That's. That's a. That's a gospel guy. You know, he does choir and stuff like that. We're signing Vivian and we're signing the gospel guy. I was like, what? Within 90 days, we had a contract at our crib from Columbia Records. No demo, no black and white, no. No profile pic, no. No nothing. And we got signed to Columbia with Vivian. Or y'all were separate? Nah, she got her deal, I got my deal. So my first album came out under Columbia Records called Life because. Because of that. Like, well, God is really real. You know what I mean? I mean, you could say being in the right place at the right time, but I believe in the favor of God. And so we were doing our album in the Root studio. James Poiser, Shout Out. James Poiser was a producer on that. He's with the Roots now. You see him on Jimmy Fallon every night in the Root studio. They had the plant based, you know, stuff going on. Marijuana, the burning bush. The plant based. They had the burning bush going on every single day. G was in there. We was in there getting contact, you know, trying to sing the praises of the Lord and just being in that environment. Then the Roots is like, oh, you know, why don't you do this? Such and such coming to the studio. Such and such coming to the studio. Such and such. We just became the choir for, like, everybody who came. So we're on Jessica Simpson's Christmas album. We're on so many albums as background singers. So Timberland came through and we just caught a vibe. Timberland. We were just in there just vibing. Tim just put a beat on, and we were just in there, there playing. I love working with Tim. Tim, we could ever do that again, bro. Yeah, please, let's hook that up. Yeah. So we was in there vibing the cry. Cry me a river. He said, I got this song with Justin, so I'm in there like, okay. So that's me playing that literally on the world itself. Yeah, that's literally. Literally me. And then the background's on there. Me and my girl Marsha from Flow Tree did the background. Yeah. Ain't she amazing? Yo, shout out Marshall. Love you, girl. We did the backgrounds to that. That. And so just when it came out and we listening to it and it's everywhere. It's in 7 11. It's in. Why we like oh my. That's us. That's us. Shut up, boy. That'll be $20. You know what I mean? I'm like, wait a minute. 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Make informed decisions swiftly and stay ahead of the curve. Uncover tomorrow's market moves with today's real time data. Visit jointsignals.com today. Hold on, give me another Sprite. Back into that must have been crazy. Back in money must have been crazy. Did you get paid for it the right way? Oh, Damn. I got $2,000 for it. Not the past. Oh, man. Not the. You gonna do the pastor? I know you cried you a river. That's all you got for that? Lord have mercy. $2,000 for Cry Me a River? Yeah, I got $2,000 for that. But you played that. I played it. We did the song. That's the song. That's what everybody knows. That's when what you hear, when that's what you look for. Anybody if they don't take care of the pastor. Tim, give me a call. Tim. That was it was. It was. It was. Yeah. But, you know, I didn't know the business at the time. And I was so hyped to get $2,000. I ain't know what to do. Y'all think I treated everybody to a fry at McDonald's. Everybody. You understand what I'm saying? So I was just so hyped. But I didn't know the business then, so I don't got no hard feelings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can go check it out. All right, well, don't move. We got more with Todd tribute when we come back. Gospel artist. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's D Envy Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking with gospel artist Ty Trivet. Now, you just got off tour, right? I did an all things new tour in the spring, and then I did the reunion tour in the fall, winter. It was. It was amazing to do that with Kirk and Clark sisters Israel, David and Tamela. Man, that was incredible. My first arena tour. Never did that before. So I'm like to hear the songs and with all them people, it was just. It was. It was surreal. So we're doing it again this year. I'm going out May June on the Only One Night Though tour. Only One Night Though. That's my new single that out Only One night Though. And the tour is going May June. I'm telling y'all, I have a second win of. Of some sort. I don't know if it's second, third, or fourth, whatever, but I have this. This momentum behind me right now. And I am so excited to get out there and do this music. I got new music coming, book, coming, podcast. All this stuff is coming, you know, off the hinges of the Grammy. And it's just a good season for me right now. Yeah. So I want everybody to come. What? He's great. So what you did for me growing up is to your music, you. You didn't make it. You didn't like you. You and Kirk Franklin was the first two men that did not make listening to gospel boring. Right. Right. Todd Trippin and Kirk Franklin. That's what's up. That's what I love about your music. Or the song you remember the most made in that. No way I make it free. I can't. Then you going to the M. I can't even end it. You know what I mean? I know what you saying. Hey, ladies. Do you think people have my time is about? No. But do you think people have a problem with God? No. No, no, no. Absolutely not. I mean, most people honor. Yeah. My whole life has been God fearing. But see, I think that you have to show and prove that through actions. You know what I'm saying? I think it's one thing to say, oh, I believe in God. I love God. Is that. But do you really try to at least strive to move the way God would want you to move. Move. Okay. I think that's the difficult. Okay. So it's not the belief, it's the behavior. Yes, I think a lot. Yeah. Sometimes it's the behavior of the messenger. What you mean somebody will say, I have an assignment. Right. Like you said, I have an assignment. And maybe your assignment is to help Jess in her situation and her problems. And maybe you do, but then you as a person is not coming from the perspective of somebody giving an assignment. You see what I'm saying? I disagree with that. That. But that's what. A little bit. That's what makes me hard to see because you're giving the excitement, but you're not living right. It's like, are you really giving excitement, Nobody around. Jesus was living, right? That's all about to say, like, was your. Was your teacher living algebra? Like, you know what I'm saying? Can somebody get. Can somebody give you information that'll help you? Yes. That's still flawless, right? But sometimes it's like, is that information true? If you out there selling crack every night, night, giving crack to our youth, you might be saving me, but then you're killing a hundred others. It's like, is this coming from God or is that coming from a negative, an evil, the devil? You see what I'm saying? So it's kind of. I got you. It's hard to trust it, separate and trust it. But that's what discernment comes in, Right, Exactly. So you need the spirit as well, you know what I'm saying? That's what I think. So when I said how you feel about God, I was going to ask how you feel about all of that. You said, you too grown for the Holy Ghost. But just because I think they be playing. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. The antics. And some people. People. Some people do. They do. Most. Do most. Oh, I got one last question, cuz. You just made me think of something. Let's go. This conversation me and Jess had when they had the New Year's Eve thing and they did the swag surf in the church. Thank y'all for having me, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, I thought it was very much clowned out. No, no, tell them what you thought. Tell. Tell the pastor what you thought up here. I didn't think it was anything wrong with it, cuz my whole thing was. They doing it outside the church anyway. Yeah. You know what I mean? So if you're having a. And it wasn't like it was a regular church service. It was New Year, New Year's Eve, they partying. You know what I mean? Yeah. What did you think? Think you thought differently. I thought that all of the clowns. I'm very much sorry about that. But you said all of them were clowns. Everybody was clowns. Because that was the explicit version being played. Just like I told Charlemagne. I'm like, no, I didn't grow up like that in church. Like, it's just certain things you don't play with. Yeah. You can swag and surf all day. I. Even if he disagree, I don't care. I still think that it was clowned out. No, I agree. I agree with you in that the. The lyrics was like. Yeah, that I couldn't believe. I Was hearing that. Yeah. I got patron on my. This girl got a bad behind me and a friend. They didn't play. I think that was a mistake in production or something like that. I don't think that was intentional. I think the church and I'm. I'm the wildest, craziest. I'm with everything I swags or whatever. I still think that the church should have something a sacred. Like what people where they are. They say meet people where you people take that and they run with that though. I'm not with that. Nobody. If Jesus met somebody where they were. He literally went to them. Like when they come to church, they're meeting you where you are club. Is what you saying? That's what you say. I'm time with that too. I'm saying you. They should be across the street from the strip club so that when they come out. Got you. Yeah. Not inside. Have you ever been to strip club? I. I have been to a strip club though. I have. Yeah. Yeah, you have. I have been to a ship club. Yeah. It was a bir. What birthday was it? I'm 48 now. I just want. It was one of them years when I was like, forget the church. Bump that. I'm. I'm going there. I did not enjoy. I went one time in my entire life. Did you pray over the girls? I didn't pray over them. No, I didn't. I didn't pray. I prayed over myself more than anything. Yeah. Like, please. I did not. Huh? Why didn't you like it? Oh, man. For real. Well, your wife here, so never mind. No, no, no, no, no, no. How did you go? I didn't enjoy. I didn't enjoy. I have never talked about this in my life except people who know me for real. I have. I didn't enjoy the performers. What state was it? Florida. Should have went to Atlanta. No, Florida. What you mean Florida? Atlanta. Crazy what you would do. Especially in Miami. Yeah. So I didn't enjoy. I didn't enjoy the. The performers. And I was like, this is why I don't belong here. Yeah. Booby trap wasn't open back then. You would have love booby trap. It's okay. Or perfections. I think I'm. I think God was like, you got it out. You good. The little prodigal moment. And you strapped, right. So this is what you wanted. Did you. I'm like, man, this is not. It's not only had all the fours and fives there that night. All the tens was on Tuesday. God knew what he was doing. God Knew exactly what he. I don't have time for this. 10 is on Tuesdays. I had. I left, yo. I. I never. I never ever desired to go back, ever. It was horrible, bro. Yeah, it was horrible, man. Can you pray for this stupid show? Can you please write? Hey, first of all, thank y'all for being like cultural leaders, man. I. I appreciate what y'all do for. For the culture, y'all. It's amazing what y'all do here. Thank you for keeping it positive. And you crazy. Y'all all crazy. But that's. That's. That's who we are. And, yeah, we're not ashamed of who we are. Let's pray for a minute. Oh, okay. Father God, I thank you for this opportunity to just. To pray over these blessed people. And in this show. I pray now, God, that you just continue to be our guide and our lead need. There are so many needs just in this room and so many needs of people that are listening. We can't solve every need. We don't know every need. But you promise to supply every need. So I pray from emotions to finances to mental health to physical health to relational security, I pray that you just supply every need. Once we're in scarcity and we need, we get desperate and we do things that's not even in our character. So may we never be insecure and may we never lack anything. And when we never fear perfect love, cast out all fear. Fill us with your perfect love today. And we won't fear anything. We won't fear the enemy. We won't fear the way of the world. We won't fear anything because we are loved by you. Let everybody know for an assurity that they are loved. Crazy and all backslidden and all not. Whatever. Whatever state we're in, it does not disqualify us from your everlasting love. So embrace us with that today. In the name of Jesus, bless everyone. Bless Charlemagne. Bless envy, Bless Jess. Bless this show. God, let it be a beacon of light and a beacon of hope to everyone who listens. Let it put a smile on people's face, put joy in their heart and happiness in their day. I thank you for the opportunity to pray over this, and I pray in Jesus name that it prospers. In Jesus name name. Amen. Amen. Amen. Hey, I love y'all, man. Thank y'all for having me so much, man. I'm a Democrat, so being donkey of the day is a little bit of a mix. So, like a donkey. Okay, Donkey of the day practice club. Now I'VE been called a lot in my 23 years. But Donkey of the day is a new one. Donkey today getting goes to a 39 year old man from St. Paul named Kyle Van Work. Now I'm gonna tell you something. Times is hard out here, okay? There's a very wide gap between the haves and the have nots. That's why all these politicians need to remember these wise four words from James Carville. And those words are it's the economy, stupid. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. People want to know how you're going to put more money in their pocket. And people want to know how you're going to keep them safe. It's that simple. If you're talking about how I can save money, if you're talking about about how you can make my bills lower, if you're talking about me being able to afford a nice vacation every now and then, you are talking my language. And you know another thing money can buy that we don't talk about enough? What? Transportation, okay? People want to be able to afford a dependable set of wheels. I'm not talking about no Bentley, Phantom, Range Rover, no, we're not chasing luxury cars. We sticking to the non luxury cars that we used to, the Fords, the Hondas, the Nissan, the Kias. Folks just want a reliable set of wheels to get them from A to B, okay? We take that for granted in our society. There is someone out there listening to me right now who can't afford a car. They waiting for public transportation right now or waiting for somebody to get them a ride, okay? They watching people drive by, dreaming of one day owning that 2013 Toyota Avalon. You take it for granted, okay? And this is how we get to Kyle Vanworth. See, there was a woman who got pulled over in St. Paul and the officer thought she needed a sobriety test. Was the officer was giving the woman a sobriety test. There was a man named Kyle. And Kyle was sitting there at a nearby bus stop minding his business, daydreaming of the day he don't have to ride public transportation anymore. Praying for the blessing of a Nissan Altima. Okay? He just wanted a nice little premium car. And he sees this woman getting a sobriety test. As he's sitting at the bus stop, he starts thinking to himself, look at this woman, possibly drunk and driving. Mismanagin the blessing of a car. And then a voice told Kyle, another person's mismanagement of a blessing is an opportunity to show God what you would do if you had said blessing. And then this happened. Let's go to NBC 11 for the report, please. As part of the statewide Towards Zero Deaths, enforcement focused on arresting impaired drivers. A St. Paul police officer pulled over a woman he says was speeding driving a Lincoln navigator at about 6pm Sunday. And according to a criminal complaint, when the officer began field sobriety testing, a completely unrelated man who was sitting on a nearby bus stop bench got into the driver's seat of the woman's car. Police say the man was 39 year old Kyle Van Wirt, who has a long history of minor crimes involving drugs and theft. Before the officer could stop him, court papers say Van Wirt sped away in the woman's suv. After the thief drove away in the Lincoln Navigator, the woman told police her iPhone and other electronics were still inside. So using the iPhone's Find me app, the woman woman was able to help police track it to Apple Valley, where they found the iPhone, apparently tossed out the window by the thief. But little did he know that the woman still had an Apple air tag dangling from the keychain. Oh. They found the suv, chased it, and finally arrested Van Wurf. What part of Grand Theft Auto mission is this? Kyle was sitting at the bus stop waiting for somebody to be drunk, be too drunk to notice their cars. Miss, listen, okay? And he jumped right in and stole it. That's not even criminal behavior. That's just opportunistic stupidity. Okay, Kyle, even though I'm giving you the credit you deserve for being stupid, I see your vision, okay? I can understand what you did there. You at the bus stop, this woman getting a sobriety test in your mind. In your mind, you was like, if I had the blessing of a car, I would never drive drunk. But you got to wait on the Lord, Kyle. You got to wait on Jesus. Have patience and wait for the things you want most. Don't chase it. Don't run after it. Please don't steal it. If God wants you to have it, he will give it to you. Amen. You can't take it. And that's what Kyle did. And you heard in the news report he didn't get away simply because the young woman had an Apple air tag inside her vehicle. Not to mention everything is a tracking device nowadays. You heard the news report. The woman left her phone and other electronics in the car. He threw it out the window, but she still had the Apple air tag on her keychain. Also, I need to say the woman did not get a DWI. St. Paul police said she was not over the legal limit. But guess who was. Kyle Damn it, man. Kyle was high and on drugs, all right? Police. Just waiting on his blood test to come back. All right? And as you heard in the news report, he has a history of drugs and theft. Wouldn't surprise me, okay? Wouldn't surprise me at all. If you steal a car in the middle of a sobriety test while the police are right there, then it's safe to say it's probably you who needs the sobriety test. Please give Kyle Van Wirt the sweet sounds of the Hamiltones. You are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. He aimed a little too high, too. What you mean? Yeah, you don't do that with the Lincoln Navigator. You gotta stay with what you got. It's the premium vehicles. You know what I'm saying? They have the premium vehicles. Like Ultima. Nissan. Yeah, yeah. Nissan Ultima. Maximum. You know, Cam Yoda, Camry. You know, Avalon, like, say, right in that range. You want to play again? Nope, I won't play again. I don't know where Racy is. I really don't. Oh, I have no idea. Can we guess and then just Google it? Like, I don't know. Can we go? If you can. Dang, party poop. Pull up his pictures. I don't know. I really have no idea. What's racist? Oh, I'm lying. I do. What I'm talking about. Okay, let's play a game, man. Do we really need to play a game? You feel like it's a shoe in. I mean. All right. I. I guess his last name is Van Wort. Guys, Kyle Vanward. So he white? Yes. Like, that's. Do you think he's a game? You was taking black at first? Yeah, I was taking a little black at first, too. I was like. I was taking a little black at first, too. Yeah, a little five yard. Why? Why? Just was. No you. Where the story went. Why? This the way the story. Tell me more. No, tell me more. I don't have to tell us. Why identify as a cat Right now I have. Meow. Ask me a question. Cat. Nope. Meow. All right. Rudolph the Red Nose. Red nose. Rudolph the Red nose Reindeer had a very shiny nose and if you ever saw him, you would even say here. Close. Come on. Come on. Breakfast Club, bitches. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne. The God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Come on. Now we have Sarah Jake Roberts. Welcome. Thank you. How you feeling? I feel good. I'm a little tired, but I'm glad to be here. Okay, good. But the new book, Power Moves ignite your confidence and become a force. Where did the inspiration for the book come from? It really started about five years ago. Whenever I'd finished speaking, people would always tell me, like, that was so powerful. You're so powerful. But I didn't really feel powerful powerful, like, I'll be in the fight of my life up there. And I started just asking God, like, what does it mean to truly be powerful? And I feel like God just revealed to me that it has so much to do with obedience and authenticity. But not only that, that power is a flow. And so what makes me powerful when I'm preaching is different than what makes me powerful as a mother. So I started digging into the fluidity of power, and this notion that power moves and embracing that from season and deceives them really started resonating with me. I do have a question. This is gonna sound stupid, but I just want people to understand, you know, where you came from and how you got into faith. I know you were here last time. So for people that don't know, they automatically assume that your dad was in. Is into religion. That's what got you into it. But you had a different start with you. So let's talk about that a little bit first. How did you start and how did you get to where you at now? And the fact that you had your first child at 14 and. And let's. Let's break that all down. And he's in the studio. That's right. He's a grown man. Don't give him that much gas. That's a child over there. Yes. So my dad has been in ministry my whole life. And growing up. When I was growing up in church, like, we were at church every single day of the week. And you either found a spot, you were in the choir, you were dancing, you were doing something, or you were like, me and you were sitting in a corner somewhere. And I can remember my siblings telling me, like, you gonna go to hell. Like, you can't shout on me. You can't clap, like, you gonna go to hell. And I was like, you might be right, because what I'm listening to on the radio, like, was resonating with me. It doesn't align with what's being preached. And so I never really felt like I had a sense of belonging within faith. And then when my father's ministry kind of took off, I didn't know where I fit within the dynamic of our family at all. And so I tried to find myself, a 13 year to find herself is going to be open to anything. And so I got pregnant at 13. I had my son at 14, which just further confirmed to me, like, you and I wanted the good girls. And so I spent probably 10 years of my life just being like, all right, faith isn't for me, you guys, not for me. I'm going to figure out what's happening outside. And I got to this space after this traumatic experience in my first marriage where I almost got arrested. And I was defending the right to keep my kids. And I was like, I have tried literally everything. I might as well just try faith. And I wasn't trying to build a platform. I was trying to build myself. And I started blogging about all of my experiences. And it turns out that there were, like, other women who felt maybe forgotten by church. Felt like, because they didn't. Did you feel that way? Like, especially because your dad was in ministry, did you feel like his church forgot about you? Especially that being your dad, it's hard. Like, knowing what I know now, it's hard to say because I felt so much shame from having a teen pregnancy that I'm sure that there were people who were, like, still loving on me. But I couldn't cut through the idea of, like, during purity culture, the height of purity culture, you didn't got pregnant like this. It just doesn't align. And I don't know, because even my father is surprised that my life has turned in this direction. So I'm not sure if anyone thought that I was going to be the girl talking about Jesus, but I tried it for myself and I started sharing it with, like, these other misfits. And it turns out there were a lot of us, like, back row churchgoers who were there because we had to be but didn't fit in. And I was able to give them a voice and a language through trying to find my own voice and language, and it's resonated with them. What level of ratchet were you on a scale of like, one to gorilla? Well, at the end of the day, the day's gotta end. I don't know. I don't. I don't even know how to answer that question. But, I mean, I. I was not outside. Like, I was not trying to be the good girl at all. Like, I embraced this idea of, like, you can just do your own thing and try anything. So, I mean, I did quite a few things. It's interesting to hear you say the bishop was surprised to see how things turned out, because I'm sure, him and you know the first lady was praying over you and asking God to turn you around. It would make sense, right? Yeah. But I mean I have always been very strong willed. I've always been my own person and so I think that that were praying but just like we praying we like I don't know if you going to answer this prayer. We'll see how it happens. I don't think that they were for sure knowing that things were absolutely going to turn around. Even if they did turn around, I don't think anyone anticipates like oh she's going to be in ministry. Cuz that's not necessarily a turnaround. Like maybe she'll figure out who God is. But this fact that she's also going to be administering, helping others, that was a wild card nobody saw coming. I feel sometimes when, especially when people play with the church. Right. And I, and I'll tell you why I say play with the church. Church, they come off like very church holier than thou. Right. So when they speak a lot of people actually believe it and listen because they feel like they study, they go through it, they read the Bible, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But also you realize that person is not a good person. So where do you cross the lines of somebody taking on an assignment, doing something positive? I think you spoke about it earlier, somebody giving a message opposed to who they are as a person. Like can somebody give a message and be an effed up person? Yeah, I mean a broken clock is right twice a day, you know what I mean? You don't even have to be a Christian to say something that could be profound and deep. But that doesn't change the fact that you have an opportunity to be more fully integrated in your character. But I think that the messages that resonate the most are from people who are literally walking it out, living it out. And so it does discredit the message. Sometimes when you're telling me something that you don't live by. But I think about it like this. So I'm a parent and now that my children are moving into adulthood, I recognize that many of the things that we have told them growing up, they're also realizing that I am figuring it out with them as well. And I don't know that it's a lot different in ministry. Like this is where the goal is. I think we all know where the goal is, but I'm still working it out too. I think where people get in trouble is that they're not actually doing the work like I'm telling you that this is the goal, and I'm doing the exact opposite of it, which is why I've tried to be really intentional about being authentic. Like. Like, I'm going through depression. I'm going through an anxiety. This is what I'm learning in the midst of that, because it doesn't serve me for me to come off as your God when we all need the same one. So I try to really make sure that I'm not on a pedestal. I try to kick the pedestal down. Like, you see a preacher. A preacher will be preaching, right? And then he's cheating on his wife. Or a preacher will be preaching, and then he's hitting his wife. You know what I mean? So when you see that it's kind of difficult to uphold a preacher, and you'd be like, are we just playing this game, or do you really feel that way and really made a mistake? You understand? Well, I mean, I. I can't judge someone's heart, and I can't judge their experiences, so I'm a little hesitant to really make a judgment on situations. I'm not. I'm not saying anybody in particular. If anyone's listening. There's nobody. Yeah, well, you know people. I don't. I don't know anyone either who's going through this, but I think people infer a lot. But I will say this. Like, preachers are human. So if you are who you are, and you can cheat on your wife, and a preacher can cheat on his wife, like, he's a man, too. She's a woman, too. And so you guys are still going to have the same areas of temptation that you need to overcome. I think your response to that, like, what is my response? How do I grow from here? How do I create boundaries? Do I need to sit down? Do I need to heal? Like, I think how you handle your humanity in the face of this divine call is what's most important. I am careful that pastors don't have a license to do whatever they want to because of the power they hold. I think that you can be human, but all of us need to be trying and stretching, growing to be more like Jesus. This, or we are up here playing. I'm not asking you to be perfect. I'm asking you to really be on this walk for real. That's right. Who is this white pastor you talking about? Black pastors don't cheat. And does he listen to the Breakfast Club? All right, we got more with Sarah Jake Roberts when we come back, so don't move it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess Hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We still have Sarah Jakes Roberts in the building. Jess, I wanted because you are a mother of six. Yeah. And you're busy, extremely busy with your podcast and then writing a book and then traveling. How do you balance that? Like motherhood. I know you said your children are growing into adulthood, but how do you balance that? 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To shop now, go to NFLShop.com yeah, and I feel for you because you got a lot going on. Yeah, I think it's the message of this book. I think it's really allowing myself to like flow in a different definition of power based off of each of those roles. Because as much as I want to bring the same intensity to everything I do, if I do that I may end up damaging my children because I'm talking to them like a business partner. And so really defining for myself what does it mean to be powerful in these specific roles and how much capacity do I have to show up in that space asking for help? You know, changing and modifying my life to really fit my priorities has done a lot. And then also just making sure my kids know, like, I'm tired. So my daughter is 8. She was devastated when I left yesterday. She was like, please don't leave me. Literally. She's like, can you please come home? And I'm like, I just need this one week to get this book in as many hands as possible and then mommy will be home. But unpacking to her like, you know, you do this. Well, I'm doing this. So she understands that sometimes absence does not mean that I don't care. Yeah. And it's a balancing walk, especially I think if you have mom guilt like I do sometimes. But I also want her to see a woman walking in her purpose and being excited about it and changing lives. So I share testimonies with her too. I'm like, let's sit down and read these comments from this weekend. Thank you for being a part of this. So she feels a part of it as well. Okay. Because my son is 12 now, but I miss a lot of him being going from grade to grade, you know. Cause my mom, between my mom and his dad, that's who has him. I was touring a lot before I actually got to do this. And. And I just feel so guilty a lot sometimes. Like, and I Have this new baby. And I'm like, I'm bringing him up to Jersey with me, and he wants to grow up in the house with the baby instead of me being in Jersey with the new baby, you know, and then him still being with my mother, like. And I don't want to repeat that. Right, right. I don't want to do that again. So I feel guilty. So I had my son at 14, and I think one of the things that makes me feel most guilty is that I know that I was growing up while he was growing up. And so the way that I'm able to be present even for my younger kids, I know that he didn't have that. So I think 1. I don't know if you have to deal with this, but I had to really forgive myself for what I didn't know when I was raising you. Yeah. You know, I just. I didn't know. I did the best that I could and to trust that I still have opportunity. If you think about adult children who are wounded from relationships that didn't go well with their parents, there's still a little kid inside of that wants their parent to show up, that wants to experience healing in that space. And so it reminds me, too, that I'm never out of time. So I'm constantly still re parenting him, even at 21 years old. You know, in the Clampdown chapter, you start by saying, if you're one of those people who know better and instantly do better, I'm probably going to be the friend who you roll your eyes at constantly. Why? Why are you that friend? Because things need to marinate for me. Like, I don't just activate things. Like, you could tell me, like, you need to be vegan, and I will. I'm going to let that marinate for a year or two before that actually activates. Because I don't do things just because someone says that I should do them. It has to be real. I have to have a conviction about it. But I will marinate it so I can figure out, like, how does this revelation actually fit within the context of my life? So in the back of the books, each book has, like, something to marinate on, something to activate, and something to pray on, because I know everyone moves into change differently. I love the marinating before activating, but I feel like that's probably. Probably how the majority of us move. But is there ever a time we shouldn't marinate before activating? Like, the spirit says, do it, and we just go. I mean, to each his own. I think if you feel? I'm not into telling folks what they should do. You know what I mean? Like, I think if you feel like there's a now on it, you should do that. You should move in it now. And a lot of times when we move in it now, we learn the marination lessons afterwards, you know? But, yeah. What about the spirit, though? S. Like, the spirit says move. Like, the spirit always tells you to be patient and marinate. I'm in relationship. Snatch your wig off on stage. You didn't marinate on. On that. I didn't have a choice. Coming off. I didn't have a choice. I didn't have a choice that. Oh, Lord. But, yeah, no, no, I had. I was in the spirit in that I had a mission to accomplish, and I didn't want anything to distract me. And my husband wasn't there. My parents weren't there there. So it wasn't like I was gonna be able to toss the microphone. I was the, you know, senior leadership person that was present in that room, and so I had to take it off. I didn't love it. I didn't enjoy it, but I stood up to it. And I think it was really interesting because I was going through something at that time where I was wondering, could I be in Dallas, a part of senior leadership? Like, with my past, with the way that I preach, with the way that I'm a little different than, I guess, traditional pastors. And I really did feel like God was trying to tell me, like, just be auth. Just trust yourself in that season of my life. And so that Sunday, when I'm sitting there with a wig cap on and then other women start taking their wigs off on the altar, I was like, you know what? I think this may be God trying to tell me you gonna have to show up as your full self in order to get this done. And I know a lot of people made fun of it, but there were so many people who were, like, seeing you stand there being courageous, stepping into that moment helped me so much to just embrace who I am. And so I really feel like God took something that would have been very embarrassing and at least allowed there to be a buffer from the people who were moved by that moment. Well, at least for me, I was like, that's why we rock with her, a lot of us, because you're just always willing to be your true self at all times. Well, I mean, like, y'all know this isn't my hair. And, like, no, it's not ideal, but it's not more important than what I'm here for. So, like, I'm gonna take it off and we're gonna move on down the road. When I got back behind the platform, I was like, oh, Lord, I have desecrated the bottoms. There are bundles on the altar. I have desecrated this place. But, yeah, it turns out it wasn't that way. I love chapter 16 to know your harm. Oh, yeah. What is. What is knowing your harm? Well, I talk about the oath that doctors take where they say, you know, that they'll do no harm, but they're also recognizing that they're practicing. And when we move in power, part of the reason why so many of us don't move in power is that we're afraid that we won't do it perfectly or that will make mistakes. But if we can embrace the reality that I'm going to be powerful and humble, I'm going to be wrong. I'm going to have to apologize. I'm going to mess up. I may say things too sharply, then that doesn't make me any less powerful. As a matter of fact, it makes me more powerful because I recognize that my position of power could disrupt my relationship sometimes. But I value these relationships enough to learn how to be powerful in a way that honors the spaces that I'm in. Next time. What's your. What's your thought on the way that church is now? Right. As a kid, you had to go to church every Sunday. You had to be in the building. You had to sit, and if there was a baptism, you was gonna be there all day. Now, a lot of people turn it on Sunday morning, and it's a lot easier. So what are your thoughts on people not actually attending the institution of church? First of all, y'all not about to tie tripping me. No, you don't. No, you don't. Let's be very clear. Let me see. I mean, I think that the world is changing, and as the world changes, I think people are finding things that are more convenient for them. And I do think that you are able to have. Have intimate encounters with God from this comfort of your own home. And I think it's powerful that that's the way that things are being spread. I think it's like watching a football game on home at home, like, you can get hype, you can be excited for your team, but there is something about being in the room with other people that makes you just take things over the edge. I was surprised that in a world where people aren't coming to church, that we have 40,000 women at the Woman Evolve Conference. Because I'm like, I don't know that this is a thing that people are going to really be into when they like virtual experiences. But there is something that happens in. In healthy community and connection that allows your faith to really be strengthened. I've had people come into rooms and, like, they didn't really want to be there. Somebody drugged them in there. They were going through a depression. They don't know why they were there. But just being in the space, sitting next to someone who was able to care for them and just being surrounded by worship lifted their spirits when they couldn't lift their own hands. And I don't think that there's any substitute for that. Would you also keep it tight, though? One hour? That's something I don't. Yeah, yeah, it's finished. He said it. Everything he said has been said to me. And so now we can go home and have brunch. Yeah. I do think we have to honor people's time because people do have options. And so being really intentional about making sure people feel like I can go get out and have the rest of my day is part of what we should really lean into. All right, well, keep it locked. We have more with Sarah Jakes Roberts when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Sarah Jakes Roberts Charlemagne. Is the church whack? That's the question. That's the question. That was the question. That's what Ty got smoked for. Because he said that he thinks the church has become whack. I heard in context what he said made a lot more sense, but I heard this sound bite was trash. I think that everyone has a different experience of church, and I think that there are some people who have probably had an experience that has disheartened them in that way. But I love the church. I mean, as much as I went through my own church hurt and trauma, the church was also really beautiful to me in times where I didn't have anywhere to go and I could sit in that presence and experience God. And sometimes to really experience God in church, you have to look past the people. And maybe that's whack, maybe it's not, because maybe it keeps our focus on what should really matter better. I love what you said, too, about in the know, your harm. You said deflecting from the way that you harm someone and highlighting the way that they harm Instead is a sign of immaturity that keeps you from truly being powerful. Expound on that. Well, a lot of times we will not embrace what we did to someone because of what they've done to us. And it keeps us from owning our stuff and growing. And so being able to say, even though my teacher may not be perfect, like, my teacher may may have failed in chemistry, but they get an A plus in this history class, that means that I need to at least be able to receive from them this opportunity to grow. And I feel like in relationships that's hard, especially if you married, because when you're married, your person brings up something and you like, oh, but last week you did X, Y and Z, but what did you do today? You know, and how can you own that? And I think when we own our stuff, we give other people permission to do it as well. Sometimes we want to be the person who receives the apology, but not the one who gives it. But we have to lead it. And humility and vulnerability. You said that's how you went to a ray work initially, right? Where you weren't listening? Oh, no. Yeah. No, Throwing everything. Throwing, yes. His stuff at him all the time. Well, I don't know if I was throwing his stuff at him as much as I was maybe reciting it in my own head, but I think I will say that when I was single, after I went through my divorce, I finally got my life together with me and my two kids. I. You really could not tell me that I was not Miss Independent out here. So I really went into our relationship with a certain level of pride where I was like, at the end of the day, I got my stuff together. I finally love who I am and embracing it. And so when I was in relationship with him and he would just ask me the simplest of questions, we wouldn't even fight. And it would just be like, why? Why'd you do that? I didn't like that because I'm not used to having nobody question my decision. And it was a simple, harmless question. And so I think that I went into a defensive one because I wanted to protect my healing. And when you're in a marriage and you go into it trying to protect yourself and make sure that you don't get done the way that you were done in the past, I don't know that it's fair for creating intimacy. And so I had to do a lot of work of receiving his perspective and finding it valuable so that I could become better. And I have become better as a result of it. What Is what does power look like in a relationship? Those dynamics are always changing. I think especially now that we see, you know, hyper masculinity has been beginning to be interrogated. We're seeing women move into positions where sometimes they're the breadwinners and men are at home being more comfortable taking care of the family. I think power in a relationship is recognizing the strengths of what your person carries and how that strength builds you in your area of weakness without feeling like they have to be strong or stronger in the same area that you're strong. I think it's like this symbiotic relationship, this flow where you're able to build a life together because both of you bring something different to the table. And to honor that, to really honor it, is important. You said something else in the book. You said when you are unable to connect the dots between who you sense you could become and who you presently are, it doesn't just cause internal frustration, it renders you powerless. And one of the examples you use is you don't defend yourself when misunderstood. Yeah. And to me, not feeling to need to explain yourself yourself is power. Well, I think not explaining yourself and not defending yourself. And I think it's different because you have a platform and so you can't defend yourself 24 7. But when we're in intimate relationships with someone and they have an expectation of who we are or this idea of who we are, and we don't change that, we allow them to believe it, we do end up powerless because I'm not even bringing the full version of who I am into this friendship, into this parent child dynamic. And you end up robbing yourself of the ability to really show up in your power and allow them to believe something about you that's not true. And so it is powerful to be like, you got me messed up. Like, that's not what I believe. That's not what I think. And if we're going to walk this thing out, I want you to know who I am for real so that you can know what to expect from me. Okay, guys, so you talking about intimate relationships. Yeah. Public fig. I'm like, I'm not defending nothing to me. Yeah, it's hard. Hard. It's hard for me. He's doing is is telling them the book they're not gonna buy if you ask all the questions about the book, Making her basically recite the book. You should pray to her. Your Bob looks like hers. That's what you should do. Now, why is my Bob in it now? My mom is in Here, minding her business. Tell him you should pray he can get here. That's why he like when she pulled a wig off because it reminded him of his. Got you. Got you. I do like. Can you leave? I will leave it in the dressing room. You just keep on answering questions, obeying him. So you forcing me to see what's going on in. Hey, can you leave us with a prayer? Well, no. What message are you hoping people get from the book? Oh, the message that I am hoping people get from the book is that power is a flow. And that power that you have experienced in your past is still present in your future. It just must. It just might be taking on a different form. So to be open to how power is being redefined in your present. Well, now can you leave us on a prayer? Thank you, God, for this opportunity, for this platform. Thank you for using these voices at this stage in their life. And I'd usually pray for the listeners, but God, I want to pray for them that you would stir up the gift of God that's on the inside of them them that you would highlight the areas of their life where you want them to experience more of your power and to show them the power that you've placed inside of them. I thank you, God, for giving them wisdom, strategy, not just for their careers, but for their family, their emotional health and wellness. And God, I pray that you would continue to show them your light that they may lean into it in Jesus name. Amen. That's right. Make sure you go get Sarah Jake Roberts new book, power Moves. Ignite your confidence and become a force. And subscribe to her podcast, the Woman Evolved podcast on The Black Effect, iHeartRadio podcast network. That's right. We appreciate you for coming, Ms. Roberts. And you need to come more often for people who think church is whack because you, the person, I feel like, is going to bridge the gap between, you know, church and this new generation. Yeah, I really feel that way. I hope so. Thank you. That's. That's a tremendous honor. A lot of responsibility, but I'm committed to, you know, know, holding down my square. That's right. All right, Sarah Jakes Roberts, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. All right, well, you got a positive note. Positive note. Stop letting your potential go to waste because you don't feel confident or ready enough. People with half your talent are making serious waves while you're still waiting to feel ready. And I want to tell you something that Bishop T.D. jakes told me one time. Even if you don't think you're worth worthy, even if you don't think you're ready, God knows you're worthy and God knows you're ready. 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