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Charlamagne Tha God
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AT&T Advertiser
Just hilarious.
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It's Friday.
DJ Envy
Yes.
AT&T Advertiser
And today's Friday show is the queens of rb, Some of the most amazing vocalists that you'll ever hear, like Chloe. She'll be joining us. That's Charlamagne's cousin. Also Marsha Ambrosius and Kehlani. They'll all be joining us this morning. Because today's show is all about the queens of R B. And you know what it is? It's the Breakfast Club. Happy holidays. Wake up, wake up.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
AT&T Advertiser
Hello? Who's this?
Caller Amanda
Oh, my gosh. Did I get through?
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, my God.
AT&T Advertiser
Who's this?
Meta Advertiser
Oh, my gosh.
Caller Amanda
This is Amanda from Virginia.
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Virginia 757. What up, Amanda? Get it off your chest.
Caller Amanda
Okay, so, like, I just quit my teaching job. I'm going to try not to cry. It was really hard for me to give up and everything after six years. And I'm scared right now because I have no idea what I'm supposed to do or anything like that. And I just turned 28, and I feel like I'm failing at life. So I need some advice.
Charlamagne Tha God
You are not failing at life, man. You know, one of my affirmations this morning was embrace everything that happens to you. And, you know, being that you're 28, you'll realize this as you get older. Everything is just part of a process. You gotta trust your instincts. Your instincts told you that you didn't want to teach no more. Right?
Martine Powers
Right.
Caller Amanda
Like, my mental health is passing so badly. Like, I was having panic attacks and everything. It's just teaching is not what it used to be at all. And so I love the kids, used to love the profession, but I just felt so undervalued and unappreciated. Like, it was just. It was hard. So right now I'm up because I'm about to go instacart, and hopefully I'll make a little something until I figure this out.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I think I just have to get that off. That's what you should do. My mom is a public school teacher. I was a public school teacher. So I understand. I think that y'all are very underpaid, undervalued, and underappreciated. So thank you for your service as a teacher. But now you just gotta pray and see where God is gonna lead you next, because he's. He's God is definitely telling you that you should be doing something else. You just gotta. You probably already know what it is. You probably just scared to do it right now.
Caller Amanda
Right?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, you already know what it is.
Caller Amanda
You.
Charlamagne Tha God
You said what?
Caller Amanda
Can I put my cash app out there? Somebody can help me out.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's not what. That is not. That is not what God. Sorry for laughing.
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Charlamagne Tha God
No more listening to you, Char. What else God got for you? Tell me what else God is telling you to do before we get to.
Caller Amanda
The cash app to go instacarting this morning. Honestly, I'm up super earth, so that's. That's all I got at the moment.
Charlamagne Tha God
One step at a time. Go ahead then. Go ahead.
AT&T Advertiser
Go ahead with your cash app. I'd rather cash app than only fans. Go ahead, mama.
Charlamagne Tha God
There you go.
Caller Amanda
See?
Martine Powers
See?
Caller Amanda
Dollar sign. Amanda capital. A M a n d n I c 9, 6.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hold on now. Say it again. A M A N D a.
Caller Amanda
Yes. N I C 9, 6.
Charlamagne Tha God
N I C 9. Oh, Amanda. Nick 96. Amanda Chandler. That's you.
Caller Amanda
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
You look like a school teacher. No.
AT&T Advertiser
You gonna put something in her cash app?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I just sent her a little something.
AT&T Advertiser
Oh, there you go.
Charlamagne Tha God
I just sent you. I love school teachers, man. I think school teachers. Yeah, like I said, I think y'all are undervalued and underappreciated and we trust our kids with y'all every day. And we live in a messed up society because y'all should be making six figures a year just because of what y'all gotta deal with, to be honest with you. So.
Caller Amanda
Yeah, hard. It's hard out here now. You know, I want to go into the mental health doing a complete career switch. So I'm just hoping it all works out. I'm pray on it. And thank you guys and I really appreciate you guys taking my call. I listen to you guys every morning. I appreciate it.
Charlamagne Tha God
You got what I sent you and said it went through.
Caller Amanda
Yes, it did.
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Caller Amanda
I appreciate.
Martine Powers
All right, no problem.
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Have a good one. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. It's the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
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Off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed.
Charlamagne Tha God
So you better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello?
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Who's this?
Caller Amanda
This is Sakina.
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Oh, my God. I can't believe I got through.
AT&T Advertiser
Hey, what's up, Sakina? Get it off your chest.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. What racing is.
AT&T Advertiser
Mess with what's up Sake.
Caller Amanda
I am black.
DJ Envy
I play with me.
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We know, we know, we know.
Caller Amanda
All right. Okay, so my birthday is on Monday, so I'm excited about that. Every time I try to call. Thank you.
Meta Advertiser
That's what's up.
AT&T Advertiser
What you doing for your birthday?
Caller Amanda
Honestly, I don't know. I'm just happy. Just happy to be alive.
Meta Advertiser
How old are you going to be? How old you turning Monday?
Caller Amanda
37.
Meta Advertiser
Hey, okay.
AT&T Advertiser
Enjoy your birthday, Mama.
Caller Amanda
Yeah, yeah.
AT&T Advertiser
And where you calling from?
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you. Thank you.
AT&T Advertiser
Thank you so much.
DJ Envy
Brooklyn.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, Brooklyn. Okay.
AT&T Advertiser
Well, enjoy the birthday.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, man. Happy early born day. It's the holiday season. You got a lot of reasons to celebrate. It's the holiday season. It's your born day. You alive. Congratulations.
Caller Amanda
Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, guys.
AT&T Advertiser
Have a good one, Mama. Hello? Who's this?
Charlamagne Tha God
N.J. manny.
AT&T Advertiser
Manny, what's up?
Charlamagne Tha God
Nah, I ain't on the line, Manny.
AT&T Advertiser
Yeah, you are. What's up, Manny?
Charlamagne Tha God
How you gonna call the radio now? On the radio? Nah, call, man. Whatever. Peace, King. What's happening? Why you so. Why you so. Why you so amped? How you doing?
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What's up?
Charlamagne Tha God
Nah, this is crazy. Okay, get to it. Anyways, yo, I just want to shout out my son. He about to turn 10. We from PA heading to Philly. We gonna go to Florida for His birthday's on Monday. Okay, shout him out, my fiance.
AT&T Advertiser
Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
Congratulations, brother. Where y'all going at in Florida? What's. What's. What town? Oh, we just gonna go to Orlando. Kissing me. Take him to Little Universal. Have a little day. I love Orlando. Make sure you go to the licking when you go to Orlando, man. Salute to my guy. E Class, so good. Word. I'm all right. Yo, that's crazy, though. I'm trying to call y'all. I got in there. Yo, that's crazy. Why don't you say your people's names? Why? You know why you on their radio? Your son, your wife, your fiance. Yeah, my son, Calvin Rodriguez. I messed up now, calling him a junior, but anyway. Eliana. Eliana Rodriguez. Yo, shout out the whole family. Okay, man.
AT&T Advertiser
You have a good one. Be safe out there, all right?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yo, thanks. Yo, peace. Peace. Oh, he was so happy.
AT&T Advertiser
Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Charlamagne. The guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got Nyla hanging with us this morning, and we have a special guest who Charlamagne claims is a family.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know why you keep saying that.
AT&T Advertiser
And we say this all the time, because when we announced that your album came out, he didn't even know your album came out. And I forced him to leave.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's not true.
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Wow.
Chloe Bailey
Oh, cuz.
Charlamagne Tha God
That is not true. Chloe Bailey, ladies and gentlemen. And we played the song. I played the Missy record and the Chris Brown record that morning, but I.
AT&T Advertiser
Had to make him download the records. He didn't even know.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's not true.
Chloe Bailey
I don't know now.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
AT&T Advertiser
You said you bought it. You bought it, right?
Charlamagne Tha God
We don't download music.
AT&T Advertiser
But you said you bought it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Listen, In Pieces is out right now. Okay. Did you buy it? All right. Did all y'all. People online complaining, making noise by it.
AT&T Advertiser
I streamed it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. How you feeling this morning?
Chloe Bailey
I feel great. I'm so happy. Like, the past two days, I've been feeling, like, great, to be honest. The week and a half, like, before, it was like, a little rocky. But tour kind of been getting me out the funk because the shows have been amazing. They've all been sold out, and everyone's singing every lyric to every song. So I'm like, the love is real in real life. So I've been feeling good.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why were you in a funk? I know you wasn't letting these digital on the Internet get these.
Chloe Bailey
I mean, like, you're like, we're all human, so of course some things are gonna bother you. And I think when you put so much time and effort into the art of everything, and it's really a conceptual album. My executive produced it. I produced on 12 out of the 14 songs on there. I had a lot of incredible, amazing talent on the project. So I was just like, it's okay. Come at me, bro. So I'm ready for what's next, to be honest.
Charlamagne Tha God
What's the title mean? In Pieces.
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Yes.
Chloe Bailey
So in Pieces, it's kind of like a double entendre. So In Pieces represents the pieces of my heart that has been left broken from life. Situations, relationships, things like that. People stabbing you in the back. And then it also means what's left in Pieces is the box that people try to put me in on who they think Chloe is. And, you know, I just have to speak for myself and break through it. That's what it means. It's like the simp side and then the place of power.
AT&T Advertiser
Side, it has to be difficult. Cause people seen you grow up, so it's like they've seen you as this young girl. So now when you break it out into your own, it has to be difficult for your fans, I guess, right?
Chloe Bailey
Maybe. Maybe not. I'm really proud of my sister and I because we've been branching out on our own successfully, and people are getting to, like, know who we are individually. And I'm so blessed that I grew up with her in life so we could go through everything together. And it came to a point where we were so dependent on one another. Like, we were Siamese twins. So what forced us apart was her going to London to shoot Little Mermaid. And, you know, me being in la and especially with the pandemic, the travel restrictions, going to another country was crazy. So as stressful as it was for the both of us, we both had separation anxiety. It, like, forced us to figure out, okay, who's Chloe? Who's Holly? So now when we come back together, it's going to be even stronger because now we also have a great sense of self.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did y'all recognize the growth in each other, you and Holly? Like, when y'all finally did get back together, did she see growth in you? Did you see growth?
Chloe Bailey
Yes. The crazy thing is, growing up, it was me who was afraid to speak up. So, like, she would be the one speaking up for me. And, like, she's the Aries younger sister. Yes, she's the. Like, don't mess with her. And it would always be me, like, oh, my gosh.
Martine Powers
I like.
Chloe Bailey
I don't like confrontation, things like that. And so because of that, I had to force myself to speak up for myself because I didn't have my sister right there doing it for me. So now I'm very independent and very vocal, and I say what I mean, and I mean what I say. And she's recognized that. She's like, whoa, you're like a completely different person. I'm so proud of her because she's confident in who she is as an individual as well. Like, we both were missing that, and now we both found it, so it's like we're stronger.
AT&T Advertiser
Did that change cause you missed your sister? Or was it a relationship that made you change? Was it writing your music that made you change? What was that change?
Chloe Bailey
That's a great question. I think it was a combination of everything. I think it got to a point where I realized, if I don't fight for myself, then I'm just gonna be left in the dust. And if I Don't speak up for what I want and speak up for who I am as a human being, then, like, it's just going to fall on deaf ears and closed mouths. Don't get fed. So, you know, throughout the music, I was finding my strength because I was saying things that I was afraid to say or speak up to certain individuals. And then from there, it just grew from that. It was like, it just kept growing and growing, and now it can't really stop.
Meta Advertiser
I feel like growing up as women, we're taught to not be so vocal. So now that you are being vocal, do you feel like you're being a. Do you feel like you have to turn on a new version of yourself?
Chloe Bailey
Absolutely not. It's not about what you say, but how you say it. You can command a room without having to bark so loud. And as long as you believe in what you're saying and you don't change in that for anybody, people will respect you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Was was Pray Away based on a true story?
Martine Powers
Yes.
Chloe Bailey
So I wrote that song with my girl Jozzy, and I kept seeing her, like, three, four times that week at every event. And I'm all about signs. Like, I. I don't feel there are any coincidences in life. And I was like, so the final place I saw her, I'm saying right.
AT&T Advertiser
Now, there's gonna be a dude that's gonna follow. This is a sign.
Martine Powers
This is a sign.
Chloe Bailey
A sign that you crazy. But I was like, okay. So we passed each other going to the ladies room at the studio, and I was like. I got back in my session, I said, so I texted her. I was like, can you come in here? And she played me a few demos, and it was the skeleton of Pray It Away. It was originally called Church. I was like, I'm in love with this because I loved how open it was. It was completely raw and honest. And for me, I've always learned to just be the bigger person and turn the other cheek. And it's like sometimes you do want to get down and dirty and get on that person's same level, But I will never give anyone that power over me. So it's like, you know, I'm gonna pray it away. So it was quite easy to finish out the song because there has been people who have tried me, and I love it. I really do.
Charlamagne Tha God
When the last time you really wanted a person hurt? Because that's what the song. That's what the song is about. You want a person hurt but then having to pray it away?
Chloe Bailey
I think the last time I Felt like I wanted somebody to hurt five days ago.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, she grew in five days.
AT&T Advertiser
She said I've been growing how long?
Martine Powers
Five.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Chloe Bailey
You can't hurt, though.
Meta Advertiser
You don't really mean hurt. You just mean, like, you want them to feel how you feel.
Martine Powers
Yes.
Chloe Bailey
Okay, like, but the thing is, we never have to do the work. Like, karma speaks for itself, you know? So never give someone power to get you out of your character.
Meta Advertiser
But you've never been like. Or you don't believe in, like, spite. Like, I got to get my get back.
Chloe Bailey
No, you're just letting it.
Martine Powers
I don't.
Chloe Bailey
Because I don't want it to come back to me in turn. So I just let them dig themselves in a ditch.
AT&T Advertiser
All right, we got more with Chloe Bailey when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. Is DJ Envy, Charlamagne. Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We have Nala Simone here. We're still kicking it with Chloe Bailey.
Meta Advertiser
Nala, so you talked about stepping into your sexuality on the album, and obviously we've been seeing it in the music videos and stuff like that. But Swarm, that clip that was trending on Twitter. It was. People were making it sound like I'm getting calls. Like, did you see?
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you see?
Meta Advertiser
I'm like, no, but I guess I go look at it, and then I look and I'm like, it's really not that bad.
Chloe Bailey
It's two seconds.
Meta Advertiser
Yeah, it's really not that bad for a father.
AT&T Advertiser
That's like 10 minutes. Okay, that's 10 minutes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Jesus.
Martine Powers
So this is.
Charlamagne Tha God
Man, y'all don't ever think about us.
AT&T Advertiser
I know, right? Never think about us.
Chloe Bailey
So because God is good. Blessings are flowing. I'm an actress as well. What I love about acting is that I'm not Chloe. Whenever I'm playing that certain character. And shout out to Donald Glover, Jeanine Nabors, Dominique Fishback, and Damson, like, we had the best time. And when I was shooting on that set, I fell more in love with acting. I barely wore makeup. Everything was shot on film. In music, you win and thrive off of being this image of perfection or whatnot. Like, you get clowned for messing up or tripping or falling on stage or looking a hot mess on the carpet. But with acting, that's where the beauty is, with all of the flaws and, you know, the imperfections and things like that. So I fell in love with the script. Now I totally, like, didn't even connect. Oh, I have to do a sex scene. I've never done a sex scene before. And I was like, okay, well, I'm not the focus of the scene. It's really about the shock value of Dre and Khalid watching each other. And, like, you see the obsession between the sisters form at the beginning.
Meta Advertiser
Was it awkward shooting?
Chloe Bailey
No. You see me for two seconds in the mirror and. And you did not see. You did not even see crack. You saw everything. You saw everything that you see from me on stage.
AT&T Advertiser
What?
Chloe Bailey
Like, let's keep it real.
AT&T Advertiser
Did you have to call, like, when you told your dad, hey, dad, this is the scene? Or you know what? How was that conversation? Because the dad's still gonna be a dad. My daughter's 21, and I don't care for sure.
Chloe Bailey
Yeah. I feel like dads will always look at. They're little girls. Like, they're still little, and that's totally fine. One thing I will say about my parents is that they know this is our job.
AT&T Advertiser
And so what was the call you called that? Hey, dad. Hi, baby. How you feeling? I just finished shooting. What did you shoot?
Charlamagne Tha God
Go.
Chloe Bailey
Okay, so it wasn't about the shoot. It was about when I first got it. And you know when the agents will call and be like, congrats, Da, da, da, da. And after I got it, I think my dad read the script and he's like, oh, okay.
Meta Advertiser
It's like, yeah, he deleted Twitter.
Martine Powers
Okay.
Meta Advertiser
And I'm not on this week.
AT&T Advertiser
Did dad go to the premiere?
Chloe Bailey
No, it was just me. I had to hop on a flight right after.
Charlamagne Tha God
I bet you the Internet doesn't realize how much more money they make you. Because if a two second scene caused them to lose their mind like that, all that's gonna make other people say is, oh, we gotta get Chloe in our movie. Yeah, we gotta get Chloe.
Chloe Bailey
God is good.
Charlamagne Tha God
We gotta get Chloe. Endorsement deal.
Meta Advertiser
I like how you were saying.
Martine Powers
See, she said, it's working.
Meta Advertiser
When you say, like, acting, you can be imperfect and the music has to be perfect. Why can't you bring the imperfections to the music? Because I think, like, what's dope about Cardi B. Is that you can hear she's from the Bronx. You know what I mean? And, like, the Spanglish she uses sometimes. Like, why can't it be both?
Chloe Bailey
Well, I do do both, but that's what people ridicule me for being imperfect, not being the type of image they want me to be. People say they want certain things, and then when you do it, that's what they used to pick on you.
Charlamagne Tha God
The weirdest thing is when people say things like, she don't know who she is. She's not being herself. You don't know her.
Chloe Bailey
Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't even know her.
Chloe Bailey
I'm sure they'd like me if they'd meet me. I'm a really n.
AT&T Advertiser
I wanted to ask.
Martine Powers
Yes.
AT&T Advertiser
You're on a sold out tour.
Chloe Bailey
Yeah.
AT&T Advertiser
Does that mean that you're not going to be a special guest or that you are going to be a special guest on somebody else's tour coming up?
Chloe Bailey
Well, I'm definitely going to ask.
Charlamagne Tha God
Are you going to be opening for Beyonce?
Chloe Bailey
I'm definitely going to see the show for sure. And it's been exciting. Like, seeing what I've been doing for myself. Like, I've never headlined a solo tour ever, sis. And I never got to do it for ungodly hour because we were in the midst of a pandemic. So I really didn't know what to expect going into it. Like, when I announced it, even before the album dropped, I was a little nervous. Like, would people want to come? Things like that every night. I'm like telling my God, mom and my team, I'm like, what do you see out there? Like, people out there. Like, for some reason it doesn't click that people are there to see me.
AT&T Advertiser
Correct.
Chloe Bailey
And it's sold out. And I think when you're constantly used to people telling you otherwise, a part of you, as much as you don't want to, begins to believe it. But then when I step out on that stage and I see it and I hear it, it's not like people are just watching me being quiet. Like they're singing the words back to me. They're giving me that energy and that love. You can't fake that. You can't buy that and make up numbers. You can't do that with that. That's real. So as long as I'm connecting with the ones who love me and I'm doing what makes me happy, that's really all the that matters.
Charlamagne Tha God
And it's also okay to have your people say, don't ask me no Beyonce questions. I love Beyonce when I'm my own entity. That's right. Because, I mean, I'm sure Kelly, Michelle, everybody's gone through that. That is stood next to that great person we call Beyonce. It's okay. You know what? Tell them. Don't ask you no Beyonce questions.
Chloe Bailey
Yeah, I mean, she is Beyonce. Everybody wants to know about her. So I'm just like, cool. Like, I don't really look much into it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Are you gonna be opening up for her, though?
AT&T Advertiser
Say exactly what he said. Don't ask no questions about Beyonce. One good time.
Chloe Bailey
She's my family.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let's practice. Are you gonna be opening it up for Beyonce?
Chloe Bailey
I plead the fifth.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, say, don't ask.
Chloe Bailey
Okay, okay. No, no, no, no, no. I'm nice.
Meta Advertiser
Okay.
Chloe Bailey
And you're my family now. I do cuss.
AT&T Advertiser
Are you gonna be opening up for Beyonce?
Chloe Bailey
I don't know.
Charlamagne Tha God
We definitely gonna take that clip though.
AT&T Advertiser
And be like Joey said, don't ask me no questions about Beyonce. That was gonna go everywhere.
Chloe Bailey
No, that would be great.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now. Now with all the critique you get from being.
AT&T Advertiser
And by the way, guys, she said she didn't know. She didn't say. No, she just said. She just said. She's not saying. Just put it out.
Charlamagne Tha God
All the critique you get from being a music artist, does it make you acting because of. Because of the freedom that you getting acting?
Chloe Bailey
That's a really great question. In this past week, that crossed my mind a few times. And I got over it like two, three days ago.
Charlamagne Tha God
Really?
Chloe Bailey
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Thank you, guys. I love you all always.
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Martine Powers
What's happening? Hi, guys.
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Queen Marcia.
Martine Powers
Seven, eight years.
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Eight.
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Martine Powers
Crazy.
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Martine Powers
I'm great. How are you doing?
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Charlamagne Tha God
You got so many classics to me. Late nights, early mornings, friends and lovers. Nyla, you've done it again with Casablanco.
Martine Powers
Thank you. You heard it?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, Absolutely.
Martine Powers
They gave it to you. I feel it's such a vulnerable feeling when people, like, have it now. It's, like, not real. It's like this is all a dream.
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Martine Powers
Thank you.
AT&T Advertiser
So I heard it was your mom that actually got you to link back up with Dr. Dre.
Martine Powers
You know what she did? In true Scouser fashion, the Liverpudlian that she is, she hit me up and.
Charlamagne Tha God
Said, you're using words we have no idea.
Martine Powers
Scouser means you were born and raised in Liverpool. I Liverpudlian. Right.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Martine Powers
So I'm born Liverpool. Liverpool, born and raised. So my mom calls me, My mum calls me and says, oh, Marsha, have you spoke to him? Dr. Dre? I don't even think she referred to him as Dr. Dre. She just said Dre. Like I was supposed to know who that was. And I'm like, no, Mom, I haven't spoke to Dre lately. And I was like, all right, I'll call him up. So this is round about the end of 2020, December. So I give him a call, say, what's up? We reconnect. He's like, I'm working on a couple of things. I'll send you a couple of ideas. So we started shooting Ideas back and forth. What would then be the GTA video game. But I didn't know that that's what was being worked on. You know, Dre is just like, let's just work. You never know what's gonna happen. So we're going back and forth, and a couple of weeks go by, and the top of 2021, he had a brain aneurysm. And I was on the treadmill when I found that out. Like, looked at my phone, and, you know, it popped up whatever news outlet, and it was like, what? I just talked to him, like, less than 24 hours ago and made all the calls, found out everything was okay and stable. 24 hours after that, he called me, said, look, Marge, I'm cool. I'm in recovery, but I want to get back to work. So I want to get you out to LA and let's just figure some things out.
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So he in a hospital bed calling you, like, look, we got to get back to work.
Martine Powers
All I know was, like, plugged up.
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Plugged up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yep.
Martine Powers
On the way back, I said, okay, Dr. Dre, whatever you say. And within a couple of weeks, I was in LA most of that year. 2021, and the creation of Casablanco happened a couple of months after that. So it was really all the GTA stuff. And then I told Dre that I was overdoing this artist thing. Nyla's mother's now, and I just want to chill. Like, I just want to produce and write. I've never been a pick. Me. I want to be in front of the cap. No, I was done. And he said, yeah. Nah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, you was done with music?
Martine Powers
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Really well. Being an artist. Being an artist.
Martine Powers
Yeah, being an artist. Like, I was always gonna create, but the whole being the artist thing, I was like, I've done everything that I could possibly do on a. This bucket list that I tried to create for myself. I've surpassed my bucket list. My.
AT&T Advertiser
What was on the bucket list? I'm just curious.
Martine Powers
Get signed, win a Grammy, lose some Grammys. I don't know. Like, work with my favorite artists, like, regular stuff. But my actual things, I didn't write. Oh, work with Michael Jackson, work with Prince, work with Stevie. Work with Dr. Dre. I didn't write those things out loud, but I wanted those things, and I'd achieved that by now. This is 24 years in for me. So I'm like, ah, what's next? I'm on my Quincy Jones mission.
Charlamagne Tha God
I like the pedestal you put hip hop on on this album, because just because just musically, it just shows how much of a classic musical art form hip hop is. The fact you can go from that Tunisian record is, like, from the fort.
Martine Powers
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
In fact, you can go from nat to nah to 90s, right.
Martine Powers
And it blends perfectly, seamlessly. It doesn't. A lot of things that we did on this album shouldn't make sense. Like, I truly believe we will be in the Guinness Book of World Records for how many things we sampled and the way that we sampled them. So, no. Wu Tang, Duke Ellington, and Michael Jackson aren't supposed to fuse, but on Thrill her, they did, you know, so it's. Yeah, it was a wild ride, but one of the most amazing experiences I've ever had. Not only recording it, just the entire process, even getting to this point, even it taking so long to get a release date for it to be available. Like, the entire thing has just been. No one's done this before.
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You talk about inspiration, right? And Charlotte may say how you inspire so many people, but you must have inspired Dr. Dre as well, because we haven't heard music from Dr. Dre. We haven't seen him executive produce things. Things. We've only heard rumors and, like, it's almost like a tease.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nothing ever comes out. You hear. You hear Dr. Dre's executive producer such and such album, but you never hear this.
Martine Powers
He recently said this in a bit. In a. In an interview he recently did and said, and I absolutely believe this, he may have only released 5% of the music that he's ever recorded.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Martine Powers
And now working with him as extensively as I did during the pandemic, it's absolutely true. And he doesn't do it purposefully. It's because he loves the creative process. And it's like, no, this is just for us. This is ours.
Charlamagne Tha God
What did you do? How did you. How are you one of the few people.
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Did you ever think it wasn't gonna happen?
Martine Powers
I'm. I'm the only there. You are the only. There's not one person.
AT&T Advertiser
Damn.
Martine Powers
Before or after. I don't even think this happens again. That has an entire project solely produced and mixed by Dr. Dream. How did I do it? Not clear, but I know that I did it. I know that this is something that he'd never done. And I feel like that that was the driving force for it to be something new. He could have just did a hip hop record. It could have just been a soul, R and B. It's none of those things. It's something so specific, so different, but so familiar. And I feel like we were both going through a similar situation. It was. He had health scare. I had a health SC is happening. It felt like the end of the Earth during that time. So it felt desperate in a way. It felt, if we don't do this and this world ends tomorrow, what's the mark that we actually leave on planet Earth? And musically, like you said, I've done things that, you know, a Marsha Ambrosius album is this specific thing. If I had to leave it all on the floor and put up my triple double and win a chip, that's this album. If it was all said and done, like, okay, apocalyptic world that we're now in because of the pandemic and many other things, it was that. It was out of desperation and feeling like, I could have lost my life, Dre could have lost his. We didn't. We survived these things. We're now post Covid. How do we navigate through this? And what does that sound like? And that's why and how this happened. So, yeah, Dre being inspired by me, I'm inspired by him. It just took off.
Charlamagne Tha God
Tell us what the title means.
Martine Powers
So Casablanco I initially, within a week of recording what we knew this was gonna be, after Tunisian Nights, he threw out some album titles, a couple of which were things like, I sing or I sing Mother. And I was like, drake, we need an actual title. Like, what is this? It was like, I mean, you sing. What is it? So I'm like, no, Drake, it needs to be entitled. Like, what is this thing? So I was in a spoiled circumstance where I'm driving through the Beverly Hills, like, just Hollywood Hills every day to the destination, to record. And it felt very vintage Hollywood, like the lights, the lamps. It was glitz, glamour, red carpets, the whole nine. And I felt underdressed for the studio every time I got there, based on what we were creating. So it was strings, it was a symphony, but it painted these pictures. And I was like, no, it feels like a place. It feels like Casablanca. And it was like, okay, Casablanca. I said, but, nah, it's that dream. So it's a little bit more gangster than that. Like Casablanco, Griselda Blanco. So the fusion of that very vintage jazz Hollywood feel meets hip hop is how Casablanco became what it was, what it is.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You make it feels like it's soundtracks to make love to. Of course, like nothing more, nothing less. Why? Why is that?
Martine Powers
I have no clue. It's just in me. It's ridiculous. Like, I've had this. Well, a friend of mine recently was like, how do you even come up with another one this? Why not? Even in a place of desperation, in. Even in a place of the world was over. I still find a song to make love to. It's a gift. That's a gift.
Charlamagne Tha God
What about one night stand music? Too good to have a one night stand too.
Martine Powers
Well, that was the point. My one night stand is now 10 years long.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Martine Powers
And I'm saying so I definitely lent from other experiences and wild drunk nights over the course of, you know, Grammy open bar, you know, it gets very ridiculous. So yeah, those one nights, they're a part of that song too. But ultimately it's that one night that could be your forever.
Charlamagne Tha God
That could be a bunch of people that'll be like, you shouldn't have one night stands.
Martine Powers
Why not?
Charlamagne Tha God
Exactly.
Martine Powers
I don't know where it's gonna go.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
Martine Powers
Like everything is a one night stand when you think about it. So we've all done it. It's whether or not it lasted or it didn't. But you shouldn't be. Oh, I'd never do that if I didn't do it 10 years later in a 7 year old. Maybe that doesn't happen if I don't just. You know what I mean? Like, if I don't say, hey, I.
AT&T Advertiser
Want to ask, I want to go back to what you said. You said the health scare and, and your child. How did that change your life with. With the healthcare in your child? Because I guess if the baby's what, six, seven years old? Happened right before COVID So you pretty much raised the baby during COVID It's.
Martine Powers
Just Covid babies are different.
AT&T Advertiser
Oh, they different.
Martine Powers
It's ridiculous. Like, but for me, how it, how it all changed, it changed all of us. You know, being in a dark place, I don't think there's anything that could bring you out of that. And that was terrifying during the pandemic. And I'm pretty sure for anybody where you're like, not even your kid could bring you. No, my mother, my father, my brother, like close friends you couldn't write to. This is what Casablanco ended up being. I didn't think I'd see that this moment at one point. So to get here and to be happy and to be in a space that I'm in is just. Wow.
AT&T Advertiser
Wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is that where the song, I guess Self Care, Wrong Right might come from.
Martine Powers
But even that is a song to. To make love to.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. What's the wrong right part of it, though? Like, what does that mean? Who's wrong? Self Care Wrong Right was initially.
Martine Powers
Those were two separate songs, and the self care was I needed to do me figuratively, literally. So by the time we got to Wrong Right, it's me inviting that person then into my space, and it's giving me good. Like, you so hood. Like, please don't go. It's that you're so wrong right now for even trying to let me let my guard down because I was so cool with just letting me do me. And then here comes the this. This. This fine, dark chocolate son of a God swept me off my feet and let me put my guard down. And I'm a Leo, and that's hard for me to do. So when it happens, it's both terrifying, but the fear in a lioness comes out in aggression and anger and a lot of sexual appetite. That is. Anyone that knows that knows. And yeah, that was. You're so wrong right now.
AT&T Advertiser
What did y'all meet? Where'd you meet your husband?
Martine Powers
On tour.
AT&T Advertiser
On tour?
Martine Powers
Yes.
AT&T Advertiser
How did that go down? Because you talking about him, you just. You started. Your mouth started salivating, and you just. You start getting hot.
Charlamagne Tha God
You turn it envy on because you.
Martine Powers
Say, I'm thinking about the song Wrong right? I'm like, hey, I mean.
Charlamagne Tha God
And be thinking about your man getting turned on.
AT&T Advertiser
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. She was just so excited. I'm just asking, where did they meet?
Martine Powers
That's where the music that's love is love.
AT&T Advertiser
It got me thinking about my wife. All right, I'm sorry.
Martine Powers
It's fine. No, we met on. On tour 10 years ago, and I saw him. It's 10 years later. I said, you know, when you know, you know, you keep, like, all the movies that you see. That's corny. Like, it never happened. Yes, it did. It was. I seen him, and he had a red fit on, and I was like, who is that? And I approached him like, yo, what's up? And we got to talking, and we haven't stopped talking since.
Charlamagne Tha God
You need to write a book called One Night Stand, because there's so many people who think you got to make. Make the man wait 30 days or 60 days or 90 days.
Martine Powers
There's so many formulas to it. Maybe you don't just follow your intuition, because it all depends on what type of person you are. Like, there are people that are. I've never been. I'm not approaching unless I know it's for sure. I don't know. There's many formulas to it. So even if I did write a book, I'm going with what worked for me. I'm not giving you the manual to how this works out. Like, oh, you too can find your 10 years later, or, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not giving it as game like that. I'm saying, if you saw what it was that you wanted and you didn't make your move, that's on you. Because then you'll sit there and. And ponder and be like, well, what if I just said something? What if I just approached? So by the time that I did, and it was what it was, and I knew that it was more than just that one night in Philadelphia, that one night in Chicago, that one night in Virginia, that one night in la. Now it's many nights. Now it's, oh, you want to move in? Sure. Moved in together. And then it's, oh, you want to go back to the UK for Christmas with me, meet my whole family? Sure. And then by April, we will with pregnant. Wow, that serious. Sounds ridiculous when I say it. No, when I say ridiculous, it's like, that's the timeline, though, you know, and we were both very sure.
Charlamagne Tha God
And the album is very like, 1990 now. Like, how do you have such a nostalgic feeling, but feeling but keep it fresh.
Martine Powers
Any hip hop connoisseur or r and b head 90s is just. It's unmatched. It was a time, if you weren't outside, just say that. And I feel like with this album, to have grasped what the Nazis of the world were doing then, the Marys of the world were doing then, but making it now, it's because that was timeless.
AT&T Advertiser
I was gonna ask, you know, you talk about Dr. Dre only releasing 5% of the music that he actually made. How much music did y'all make? And how did. What was the process of trickling it down from the amount of songs you made to this? 11.
Martine Powers
You know what's crazy? We made about 12 or 13 songs, really, and knew when it was time to start. We knew it when it was completed. And the only reason why the other two didn't make it is because one of them, it made the album play a little longer than we felt comfortable with, and it matched another song on there, like, evenly, like if you had to get rid of one or the other. Right, right, right. It's definitely that one, though. And one of them we couldn't clear, like, getting. Nah, one of them. So I was like, okay, we can't clear that one. We have an album, and Dre, in the creative process, has, like, a whiteboard on the wall. We'll write the titles for each song. We just looked at it and was like, that's it. We're done. So between end of April 2021 and end of May, we were completely redone. Done with recorded vocally. I recorded everything, written everything. We took a couple of weeks off and reconvened, And Dre said, 27 piece orchestra. So we were at Gower Studios. Eric Gauffain did the string arrangements, and we were in with the orchestra, listening to them go crazy. On this album that we created, which was already doing what it was going to do, this symphony just took it to another place, like, didn't even make any sense. So by the time that's happened, it's just timeless in that way.
AT&T Advertiser
All right, we got more with Marsha Ambroses when we come back. Let's get into her new joint. It's called Thriller. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. That was Thriller. Marsha Ambroses. Her album comes out next Friday.
Martine Powers
What's happening?
AT&T Advertiser
I was watching the R B Money podcast, Shout out to Tank, and you made a comment. I guess you were joking. I don't know if you were joking or not. Talking about you thought Stevie Wonder really can see now, and people took it as they were mad at you for a little bit.
Martine Powers
Mad at me how?
AT&T Advertiser
I don't know.
Martine Powers
Because if you're a Stevie Wonder fan, what I said was, he can see if you listen to the music. To be one of the most prolific, descriptive songwriters of our time. How can he not? And maybe not in the way that you believe that that is, but his pen game makes you visualize us with actual sight. Visualize everything. He was saying, that's a gift. That's what I said. Yes, he can see because there's no way. He says, I never dreamed you'd leave in summer. And I literally see the summer day he's referring to. That's not fair. Mary wants to be a superwoman. And I know who Mary looks like. I've already made that character. The song plays, and I see it. Stevie, more than any songwriter I believe on planet Earth, has made me see a Song the way Stevie does. That's what I said. I said what I like. I said, that's what I said.
Charlamagne Tha God
I get what you're saying. He might be blind, but he got vision. There's a difference.
Martine Powers
Speaking of vision, to use that song on Casablanco. I remember Dre. Actually, he might. Dre was nervous about using the Stevie record or, like, asking him, like, yo, let's hit Stevie and see what he thinks. I'm like, okay, crazy. But, yeah, we got to use visions on Casablanca with Stevie's blessing and this fake bucket list I keep making up. Like, I'll check that one off.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, the Stevie FaceTime Zoom him. What did he do?
Martine Powers
I want to say it was a phone call that I had, and Dre had spoke to him also. So. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
How involved is Dre?
Martine Powers
See, we're just gonna let that one do this. Cool.
AT&T Advertiser
You caught it.
Charlamagne Tha God
You caught.
AT&T Advertiser
As long as you caught it.
Martine Powers
Oh, absolutely.
AT&T Advertiser
You caught it Smooth, too.
Charlamagne Tha God
I love it.
Martine Powers
You caught it.
Charlamagne Tha God
FaceTime.
AT&T Advertiser
No, you FaceTime. I love it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cool. I just got a couple more questions. MJ Culture.
Martine Powers
What? Yes. And wanted to be like, I had a spoiled experience. I was just getting to, you know, Atlanta, then get to Philly, get signed by the end of that year. Now I'm in the studio within less than a year of the time it took me to get to the States, then work with Michael Jackson because he's heard this demo, and we were here in New York, Hit Factory. Michael Jackson was there in the studio two hours before call time, just warming up his vocal. He was that guy. Like, he was great because he worked unlike any other. And Mike was just the king, for all reasons.
AT&T Advertiser
Now, you also mentioned Flow Tree fans would always what will flow a tree ever do an album together again or that chapter, your life is over.
Martine Powers
Who knows? No chapters are closed. And I think rewinding to what you said about, you know, when I met my husband, I did a flow tree tour. 2015, 2016. And that's when I met him. Then got pregnant the following year on the other tour. So it was like a back to back, hey, reunion, Soul Love. And yeah, who knows now?
AT&T Advertiser
Also, I seen Amanda Seals was on Club Shay Shay and talks about. She said that she thinks you wanted her to quit flowetry. Was that true?
Martine Powers
The loaded question, quit flowetry is very vague. What was happening with Amanda Seals? And this is what. Because I won't spend a lot of time in this. This is like a quick bit. When did we last do the Breakfast Club?
Charlamagne Tha God
This is like Seven years and I came up.
Martine Powers
So yeah, initially my. The first thing I said about Amanda Seals is sorry. And it was. She was put in a position that she shouldn't have been in in the first place. The label and management are trying to re establish what that was and it just didn't work. So by the time we've put all of these things into action, we've rehearsed a show and. And you've given it to the public, everyone has gone, oh, nah. And there's nothing I can do about that part. And this is also 17 years ago, three weeks of a summer tour. We may have done like 15 or 16 shows and it just didn't work out. And that was the end of that, really. But we've had nothing but, for me, we'd had nothing but positive interactions thereafter. Like I saw her 2013, we took pictures together, we reminisced and she'd been texting me throughout the years after that. Nothing but positive vibes. So I'm in a good space right now, 17 years later. So for whatever she believes that was, I don't think publicly we can do this. Combative. Well, you said this happened or I said this happened. I know exactly what happened on my end. But you know, it's kind of 17 years ago. I've done all this healing between now and then. I'm not the same. Like 17 years ago, 2007, I'm still talking to Michael Jackson at that point. I've still got Prince on speed dial. Like I was still very much Grammy winning, Grammy nominated. Me that was in a position to do what I wanted to do at that point, moving forward. And here we are 17 years later and I'm still moving on and moving forward. And Casablanco with Dr. Dre is about to drop and just in a different.
Charlamagne Tha God
Space on the song Greedy. It makes me wonder, does your husband ever hear certain lyrics and be like, you talking about us? Because you say it's never enough to love you. Same old, lame old. Ain't no way I'm ever going to take that. I'm giving you everything and it's the thanks I get.
Martine Powers
Don't play that. Even if it was greedy. During that time and even during the creative process of Casablanco, my husband and I had a conversation about where I was at mentally to create the actual. Basically, he said I didn't have to be married Marsh and come from that space. And I understood what he said when he said that because the love songs are different if I'm attached to the relationship I'm in. And having to kind of skirt around what that looks like. Those songs sound like don't wake the baby or just like old times. And they're different with this. It was, you need to stretch that pen and write from a space of you doing you. And what does that sound like? So by the time I got to Greedy, I was angry at the world. Like, it's never enough to love anyone or anything and then be satisfied in a way that you feel like you put your 100 in and they only claim it's 30%. So I could give you the moon. And it's like, well, where the sun is. Like, it's the moon family, you know? And I feel like Greedy. I was talking about everyone. It wasn't even just about him. It was everyone and everything playing this tug of war of if you're not next to me, you feel as though you're missing out on something that you only gain by being with me or taking something from me. I'm like, well, what's the end game? Like, what exactly do you want? Because you're really upset. Like, you mad as that you not around me like that greedy.
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Martine Powers
Oh, my goodness. When you say it out loud, it's real.
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Martine Powers
Oh, man.
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Do I want to hear Might be wet.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Let's do it.
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All right, we'll get that on. Thank you so much for joining us. The album Casablanco comes out out next Friday. You guys can check that out. And we appreciate you for spending it with us today.
Martine Powers
Thank you so much for having me. Appreciate y'all.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Red Donkey of the Day goes to a 35 year old man named Rashawn Shawali. No, Rashan Shawal Ajuwani. I don't know if I pronounced this man's name right, but let's get to the story. Rashawn is likely headed for trial according to LA County Superior Court records, because he was arrested on October 18th. What was Rashawn arrested for? Well, he was arrested because he was accused of trying to steal a hash brown at gunpoint from a McDonald's. I repeat, he was accused of trying to steal a hash brown at gunpoint from a McDonald's. Not even with a real gun. Okay. A replica pistol. See, y'all think I be lying, but you can look this up. The victim reported that Rashawn arrived at the third window in the drive through line and demanded a third hash brown after ordering two.
DJ Envy
Two.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay? Big back behavior. The employee of the employee, the McDonald's let the suspect know that he only paid for two. And the suspect, Rashawn, told the McDonald's employee, don't you f with me. While using the employee's name from his name tag. So let's just paint the picture. If the guy's name that worked at McDonald's was Calvin, Rashawn kept saying, don't you f with me, Calvin. Well, clearly he thought Calvin was still effing with him. So he, Rashan or Rashun, went to his vehicle, pulled out a firearm arm, the fake gun, a prosthetic pistol if you will. Silicone scrap, a GMO gat. He pointed this impossible piece, this beyond biscuit at the employee and said, these hash browns ain't dying for you. He didn't really say that, but in my mind that's how he was Bringing it. Okay. But he did point the firearm at the victim's chest. And the McDonald's employee said he gave up the third hash brown because he was in fear of his life. You think? And can you believe Rashawn had a wife? Investigators identified the SUV that he was driving and it was registered in his wife's name. They served a search warrant on their home and the victim positively identified Rashawn out of a lineup. And deputies found a black Glock 19 style compressed air fired pistol during their search of the Canyon county home. This man had a house, an SUV and a wife. And he robbing people for hash browns. Now he's facing two to five years in prison. The judge denied a motion by Rashawn's counsel. They wanted a ment self diversion for him, citing the aggravating and mitigation factors. I don't even know what that means. But I do believe Rashawn is dealing with some type of mental health issues. Because you don't flip out like that over no damn hash brown. A hash brown. And you already had two, okay? Robbing a McDonald's for a hash brown is like sticking up a Starbucks for a free wi fi code, okay? It's like robbing a 711 for a free Slurpee refill. If you are going to commit a crime, at least. At least steal something that doesn't cost less than your bus fare at home. And you ain't even need bus fare cause you had an suv. Okay? Who the hell wants to spend two to five years in prison because they committed grand theft? Breakfast. All right? Nobody in prison gonna take you serious. Your celly ask you what you in for and you say stealing hash browns. Then your cellies turns to you and says, your ass brown. Okay? That's where things can get tricky. All right? Robbing McDonald's for a hash brown. How hungry do you have to be to risk five to 10 years for a dollar menu item? Okay, now there's a part of me that respects the basicness of it all though. Okay? Rashawn walked into a McDonald's with a GMO gat. And what did he demand? Not the hotcakes, not a sausage biscuit. Okay? By the way, McDonald's is 2024. Can we get chicken sausage biscuits? Turkey sausage biscuits, please. No pork on my fork. But he. He didn't want either. Rashawn didn't want any of that. He wanted a hash brown. You gotta respect the simplicity. Forget what's in the cash register. He wanted that fried potato, okay? Who knew you could Turn big back breakfast cravings into a felony. Now I have the president of the Fat Lives Matter Committee. We don't have the wobble in there, do we? I like, whenever he walks in, I want the wobble to play. You know, anything concerning food. Big Mac wants to weigh in because you know, he can break the scale. Mac, the floor is yours. I hate short people, man. I hate short people all the time.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Knew he was gonna shame this man. And that's because you always looking at it from the. The skinny committee. Talk to me. You're not looking at it from the.
AT&T Advertiser
Other side of it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, first off, do you know how much hash browns are these days? How much? $3 and 49 cents. For one hash brown? Yeah. Yeah. Things changes now, huh? So he didn't rob McDonald's for a hash brown. He paid for three because hash browns used to be a $349. Do your research.
AT&T Advertiser
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
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You're not part of it.
Charlamagne Tha God
I get the emails all the time. Every time they change it. So he ain't robbed that. I used to pay a dollar for it. So technically, when he got his receipt.
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Saw $3, he said, oh, wait a minute.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't pay for three hash browns.
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I only got two. Let me pull up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let me get that other one. But that wouldn't make no sense because he bought two. So then that way that'd be like almost $7. Until he saw his receipt, said, oh, they charged me for three. I gotta go back around. Let me get that third one. Technically, if you see $7, that'd be. They would charge them for like seven or eight based off the logic you use.
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Right?
Charlamagne Tha God
But he's probably was getting frustrated because, you know, the gas price is high too. He's like, I'm not gonna keep moving around. That's why he pulled the gun out. I'm more mad that he kept the.
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Gun for the cops to find him.
Charlamagne Tha God
Than he is about doing the hash brown thing. Please give Ra. Rashan. I'll. I'll juwani the biggest he. Huh? Okay. Matter of fact, give me some sweet sounds of the Hamiltones too.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Whatever. Don't. No, I'm taking the donkey back. Don't you.
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No, you.
Charlamagne Tha God
You do. You do God's work. Still standing here like you in line at the cookout. Okay, why you still here? All right? Your plate is full. I'll be mad cuz you got to.
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Charlamagne Tha God
It all day like some of the other breakfast items. So he was probably like, damn, I only got like 30 minutes. Let me swing back around real quick. And then the. Would you say Charles and Chuck? The everybody try to be a hero.
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Calvin. Calvin. Everybody try to be a hero when they work the fast food.
Charlamagne Tha God
Just give me the damn hash brown. You know there's headlines about this, like $3 for a single McDonald's hash brown. Fed up and pushing back. You're welcome. This is. Okay, this is from February 2024 on KSL DOT. Easy.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Email chain if y'all want.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You sure?
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Charlamagne Tha God
The Breakfast Club.
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Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, indeed.
AT&T Advertiser
Kani. Welcome back.
Meta Advertiser
Thanks for having me.
AT&T Advertiser
How you feeling?
Meta Advertiser
I feel good. I think the last time we did this, we might have been on. On a zoom call. So it's cool to be in person.
AT&T Advertiser
Yeah. Was.
Charlamagne Tha God
How's your spirit? How's your energy?
Meta Advertiser
I'm super good. I'm like, probably the best I've ever been.
Charlamagne Tha God
Amazing.
Meta Advertiser
Yeah. I think just life is really cool. I think I made something I'm stoked about. My fans are stoked. I got to do all these cool signings and see all of them in person and just like be back in the swing of things. So I'm good.
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They say you're a gym rap. They said you up at 6 o'clock this morning in the gym. They say every morning.
Meta Advertiser
You don't miss the gym. They might have lied about this morning. I was dead sleep this morning. But yeah, I'm up. I'm always about my fitness stuff. I'm super healthy. Am the healthiest. I've also ever been.
Charlamagne Tha God
So I will say, you know, listening to your new album and just seeing you over the last few months, several months, talking like there's a confidence and a sense of self that you have now.
Meta Advertiser
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
That you didn't have years ago.
Meta Advertiser
Yeah, for sure.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why is that?
Meta Advertiser
I mean, I think it's been a long mental health journey. I think it's been a lot of contributing factors. New motherhood, different angles of like, public being publicly aligned with certain things or publicly misaligned. They're just like not stepping into myself. I'm 29, I'll be 30 next year. Like, I'm just. I'm growing up in a real way. So, like, I know how to prioritize and take care of myself differently now. So why did you name the album Crash? So essentially a crash is the height and the peak of a moment. It isn't like the anxiety that comes before and it isn't like the overthinking that comes after. It's just this like, excuse me, cluster. It's just this, this thing that happens. And I knew this album wasn't gonna make sense to most people. I knew that it would be something that you either loved or that you hated. Kind of just is a crash. And that's kind of been the reception is some people hate it, some people love it, some people think it's my worst, and some people think it's my best. And I think that's really cool.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's a little bit of everything.
Meta Advertiser
It's a crash. It's really a crash.
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It's a little bit of everything. Was that what you wanted to do?
Meta Advertiser
You know, I didn't start wanting to do that. It started as my self titled and I went on this mission to like make, finally make the Kehlani album, because I haven't done that yet. And we started in like going to all these different cities and we got all these Airbnbs in different places. And it just kind, kind of grew into this thing that resembled, I feel like me as a person. I feel like I've always been kind of this thing that doesn't make sense to everyone. They can't figure out like who I am, what I am, what my story is, how it's been, all of these things, like, can't figure me out in whatever kind of way, how, how I look versus how, what kind of music I make, how I sound. Once it started taking its own life, I was like, oh, okay. It's just me as an album. So. Yeah.
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What is the self titled Kehlani album supposed to be like? Because you said it was supposed to be a Kalani album. What was is that supposed to.
Meta Advertiser
Well, that album to me is more rooted in the core things that shaped why I sing. I feel like the Kehlani album will be much more referencing like my actual core musical references. It'll probably be a lot more R and B, but This album really reflected all the things that I listened to, that I grew up listening to, but didn't necessarily shape my identity as an artist, but reflect, like, you know, worldly where I'm at. So basically, we're still getting Kehlani album. Absolutely. That'll probably be my next album. Probably, yeah. Good.
Charlamagne Tha God
Lose My Wife is such a toxic record. It is so toxic. Like, why, why? Why would you make those choices and decisions knowing that it could cost you your wife?
Meta Advertiser
Oh, you know, it's not a true story. I just wanted this.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, no, that's what you tell them.
Meta Advertiser
No, it's true. It's true. So in my head, Crash is the story of this anti hero version of myself that goes to Vegas and has this crazy run in Vegas and ends with that lament of, like, all of this is Crash instantly. And it's almost like the comedown song of, like, oh, these are the decisions that I've made. And, like, this is what happened. So it's more of, like a sonic story and an ending to the story than a true story that I needed to smack on there. It kind of feels like the hungover song. It kind of feels like the next day you're like, oh, this is your shadow side. Exactly. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
But when I hear songs like After Hours or, like, Better not, or Tears, it does feel like you're longing for. For a stable relationship.
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Does it?
Charlamagne Tha God
A little bit.
Meta Advertiser
Yeah. I mean, I think everybody wants love. Everybody wants stable love, and we all just have different journeys through it, you know?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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Now, how has motherhood been?
Meta Advertiser
Oh, it's the best through this journey.
Martine Powers
It's the best.
Meta Advertiser
She's five. I can't believe it.
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Covid baby.
Meta Advertiser
Yeah. And that's whole.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, it is.
Meta Advertiser
That's all different type of breed. Another thing I got.
AT&T Advertiser
What is the COVID baby?
Meta Advertiser
I'm literally like, I'll make the day seem so fun. I'm like, we're going to the aquarium and we're going here. We're going here. And then she's like, like, no. Kind of just want to stay in the house and play. I'm like, geez, what are we gonna do? The other day I took her to the park, and she was like, I'm just letting you guys know I'm not playing with any of those kids. And I was like, I respect it, but maybe we should try. And she did, and she tried. And she made some friends, and she's in school, so, like, she has friends.
Charlamagne Tha God
She still got musical interest. I heard you say one time she had Some.
AT&T Advertiser
She's on the album.
Meta Advertiser
She's on the album. She's on deep. She actually sounds so good that you can't really tell that it's her. Except for her tone is obviously sounds a lot younger than mine, but she's singing her ass off.
AT&T Advertiser
Do you want her in industry?
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Meta Advertiser
I want her to do whatever she wants to do. If that means industry, sure. If that means she wants my help, sure. If that means she doesn't want my help, sure. If that means she wants to be a brain surgeon or a rocket scientist, let's do that. It's her world. I'm just here.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. Is the industry good for kids? I mean, you're somebody who came in the industry young, right?
Meta Advertiser
I think that there's pros and cons on both sides. One, I didn't have access to the proper like. Like mental wellness type of regimen or care to have grown up in it the way that I did. And we're seeing the effects of people who, you know, adults now. And all these stories are coming out about them being like child stars or coming out young. And on the flip side, I feel like people now have access to that, but there's. It's also a different demon. Fame now is completely different. It's why I don't really post my daughter. I don't. There's too many creeps. I don't ever heard her ever look back and be like, I actually didn't consent to any of this. I didn't give any permission. We already get embarrassed when our parents play home videos for our friends when they come over. Like, if I'm just subjecting my child to her home video, her freaking growing up home videos being widely known all over the Internet. And she grows up one day and it's like, I didn't get to tell you if I wanted that or not. You know, that's not me as a parent. So. Yeah. Any more babies? I would love to have more babies. Whatever God wants to bless me with, I receive.
Charlamagne Tha God
Can we talk about the record? What I want?
Meta Advertiser
Yeah, I want a.
Charlamagne Tha God
That look better than me. Wow.
Chloe Bailey
You reading it.
Meta Advertiser
So serious.
Martine Powers
Yeah.
AT&T Advertiser
He was so excited to read that.
Charlamagne Tha God
But it seems on that record, it seems like you're torn between wanting to be spoiled but also feeling comfortable being the one who spoils.
Meta Advertiser
Yeah, okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Meta Advertiser
I'm definitely like, I fluctuate. Absolutely. I think I'm more of a giver than a receiver of, like, spoiling. I think that's just my nature. But I. It's just a classic Song about naming all the things that I want. I don't think any of them are even cohesive. I think they're just like, here's a list of all the. All my dream things that I want.
Charlamagne Tha God
But if you're having a wild weekend in Vegas, why would you lie to a woman like that? Why would you make her feel like.
Meta Advertiser
Like she's so special?
Isn't that what you do in Vegas? Doesn't Vegas make you. No, not like that. But I'm saying doesn't. Is Vegas not like some adult Disneyland and, like, all your vices and you don't talk about it when you get home? Actually, actually, I have a tiny residency in Vegas. Thank you. I have a show. Thank you. I have a show at the end of next month and in August. That's what I do in Vegas.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cause even on the song Vegas, maybe I'm tripping. It didn't sound like you was actually in Vegas. You just said what we do is like Vegas.
Meta Advertiser
Exactly. The only. I made a couple songs, actually. I made part of what I Want in Vegas. I made part of Susian Vegas. I mean, actually, I made most of Susian Vegas and a part of Groove Theory in Vegas. But the song Vegas I made in Los Angeles.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Meta Advertiser
And then nobody go to Vegas to fall in love. Like, they go to creep, have fun, you know?
Charlamagne Tha God
But that's why you ain't gotta lie.
Meta Advertiser
To the person who said I'm lying. Y'all know what I got going on. We don't know, right? Hello, the record.
Charlamagne Tha God
Sushi. A sushi. Doesn't that mean. Isn't that Spanish flu?
Meta Advertiser
But dirty, right? Sua, sushia, sushia, suia. No, sua. There we go.
AT&T Advertiser
Here's a list.
Meta Advertiser
And that's dirty, right? Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Dirty girl, period.
Meta Advertiser
There we go. Bilingual.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is that what the record symbolizes?
Meta Advertiser
Yeah, basically.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Meta Advertiser
I mean, Young Miko's versus crazy, if it's translated. And Jill Scott is freaky Auntie Max Extreme Lord. She is the. The freak Lord. Honestly, the original freak. So I had to tap her in. Yeah, yeah, she. That was an honor.
AT&T Advertiser
All right, we got more with Kalani when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne. The guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Kalani.
Meta Advertiser
Jess, I noticed that you don't have a lot of features on this. Was that an intentional. No, I tried to get more features. There was a couple things that were going on. Different time Things and not necessarily being aligned at the time. Different people not aligning with me and just things not making sense. But the ones that did stick around for me and really, you know, held me down. I'm super appreciative. And they killed it. Yeah.
AT&T Advertiser
Now, After Hours, were you surprised of how fast that took off, especially on social media?
Meta Advertiser
Crazy. Yeah.
AT&T Advertiser
It was like a huge dance.
Meta Advertiser
And Yeah. I honestly have to give a lot of credit to Darius Hickman, who's an incredible dancer and he was in the after hours video and he left rehearsal for one of the. For the after hours video. I went home and just like, made this little dance on TikTok and it just, like, it took it on one. I think it's such a testament to how powerful, like, dance is and how, like, dancers are like DJs. Like, they could really break songs. Like, it's. I give him all the credit for that because it's crazy.
AT&T Advertiser
Did you know who Lumi D was beforehand?
Meta Advertiser
Yeah.
AT&T Advertiser
Okay.
Meta Advertiser
Of course.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why you disrespect her like that?
AT&T Advertiser
I'm just asking.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn, that's a classic.
Meta Advertiser
I'm like, of course, the one song.
AT&T Advertiser
Lumi D had one song, so, you know, made be people. Did she have one?
Meta Advertiser
Of course. I think she had one.
AT&T Advertiser
Yeah, she had one.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now, you also mentioned that this album isn't rooted in your personal experiences or relationships like your previous albums. Are you saying that just so you don't get in trouble and people be like, damn, Kalani, so toxic. No, I think running through these chicks.
Meta Advertiser
I think anytime a running. He wants you to be a pimp so bad. So bad, so bad. You know what's so funny is I think people would be surprised if they sat down with me to. To actually ask and inquire about my experiences, because they might look one way, but it's so different scenarios that lead to why my love life looks the way it does and so many. You'd be surprised who. What's happened with this and what's happened with this and it's just. It's my business and it's my world, and I'm pretty much in good standing with anybody ever. So, like, running through these chicks is extreme. You do really want me to be a pimp. You know, maybe I'll just. Maybe I'll just start embodying it. Maybe I'll just. Maybe I'll just live in it. Maybe I'll just accept it.
AT&T Advertiser
Jesus.
Meta Advertiser
Yeah.
AT&T Advertiser
Does that bother you?
Chloe Bailey
People in your.
AT&T Advertiser
In your. In your regular business, not just your music business or the time?
Meta Advertiser
No, I think it came. It comes with the territory.
AT&T Advertiser
At one time, you didn't feel like that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You said a boundary.
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Yeah, absolutely. But I've also was not in a positive space to even be able to walk in a room and, like, hold that. Granted, I think the interview at the time that caused things like that, was it my favorite experience with someone? No. But I also, at multiple times in my career, just have not been just aligned with where I needed to be to be able to show up in that way. So now I can hold that. You could probably say anything to me and I'd be like, all right, cool.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm a huge mental health advocate. So what got you to that place where you are now? You know, And I mean, I know it's a journey. I know it's upside. No, it's downs. But what got you to this?
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Yeah, honestly, I'm gonna use this moment to be really transparent and to really advocate for people, you know, getting psychiatric care. And I got a psychiatrist and I got a proper diagnosis after what felt like years of getting soft diagnosis and misdiagnosis, and I'm able to get medicated help. And it keeps my mood stable and I'm here and it keeps me like, I would absolutely recommend it to anybody that feels like they need it because it's not something that anybody needs to shame or, like, be nervous about. And it's probably the best thing I've ever done for myself, for sure.
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What got you there? Because most people, like you said they feel like they can't talk about it, they can't discuss it, they can't get the help because they don't want to be shamed, especially a celebrity. You feel like somebody will see me do this, that. And what got you to the point was like, f this, I need to get help.
Meta Advertiser
You know, I was medicated when I was a kid, and I remember not having the most proper experience with it just because I was really young. And like, you're in school and like, every kid has ADHD and, like, is hyperactive.
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And at what age were you first medicated? Do you remember?
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I had to be in, like, the third grade on Ritalin, and it really messed with my personality. And my mom was like, yeah, no, like, you can't be a zombie. Like, I'll take hyperactive. Turned up, you know, over, like, whatever, this zombie, you know? And then on top of that, still, I just remained with a psychiatrist. And then I, you know, went into teenage hood, and I didn't have that anymore. And then I became an adult. And just, like, my experiences in the music industry and the amount of, like, PTSD that that causes paired with, you know, all your childhood trauma and, like, all these things, you kind of get to a point where you're like, all right, I'm not an expert. Like, I can't keep being the one to dictate this or to supplement or, like, to. To try to fix it. I used to smoke a lot of weed. Can't do it. Won't do it.
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Meta Advertiser
Oh, I haven't been a smoker in five years.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Meta Advertiser
People bring me weed all the time.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I'm like, dang, that's the old indigo. Kind of calms your anxiety sativa, makes.
Meta Advertiser
You have panic attacks, you know, it was because I got pregnant and I couldn't. And then I got. I went to a throat doctor, and he was like, oh, you don't want to sing for the rest of your life the way your looks. Because I was smoking backwards. I was smoking blunts, and it just. I couldn't do it anymore. And I'm just. I got to a point where I was like, okay, I'm doing all the things that I can possibly do. I'm going to the gym. I'm developing good Hobb. Not going out. I'm not doing this. And I'm still struggling. It's to the point where I need to, you know, I need to ask for help.
Charlamagne Tha God
I keep hearing you talk about your. Your fitness journey.
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Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
And. But then they said recently you were body shamed on. On that. I didn't. I didn't see.
Meta Advertiser
You know, it was an interesting body shame because what it was was the accusations that I got ab etching, but girl be so sick of people.
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She got the same. She got the same pregnant.
Meta Advertiser
Yeah, it's. It's really interesting. The thing is, I have diastasis recti and a hernia from being pregnant, so my muscles are split down the middle. So I have. I have this space right here, and this I have, like, a lump because it's my intestine. It's a hernia, and it kind of looks like an extra ab randomly above my belly button. Everybody was like, that's the proof.
AT&T Advertiser
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And then they were like, yes, proof, because she's not super muscly anywhere else but just her core. And one. If you go back, like, genetically, I have. My dad is super buff. Like, I'm damn near built like my father. And then I've always kind of had. Right. You can really see it. And I've always had abs. And then upon, like, just really training my core to, like, make up for the fact that I. My muscles aren't connected, and I have to get my core together to be able to do anything. Just the center of everything. I have to go a little hard on that. I honestly thought it was hilarious. And then people just being like, is that a man? And I was like, do you want me to be Jesus? Would you like me to be? But what I love is, like, you didn't get mad and, like, go get online and start going crazy back and forth. It doesn't do anything. I used to do that a lot. And then you just realize, like, there's crazy every day. Like, people talk about some new the next day. I remember when the Internet used to destroy me. Like, it. You what? I remember the other day, maybe last week, somebody might have tweeted, like, oh, like, y'all don't call Kehlani 30. And she has tattoos. And someone said, oh, you must be new here. And everybody was like, yeah, because 2016 to 2018, that was it. Everybody was calling me ugly, dirty everything. And I used to be what I was up about it, like, consistently. And then I just got to a point where I was like, well, life kind of goes on. And, like, I know myself, and, like, there are people that know me and love me deeply and care about me and, like, you know, you wash. Hello?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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Yes. If you guys would like to come to my house for a week and double check if I shower twice a day and the levels of aftercare, like, that's on you guys. But, you know, you don't have. You can't prove those things to people. People who already want to be like that are gonna be like that regardless anyway.
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All right, well, don't move. We got more with Kehlani when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Kalani Charlemagne.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now, how, how did your record label and I guess just the industry period, react to your, your advocacy for Palestine?
Meta Advertiser
You know, I think, I think we're in a, in a kind of a loop for so long of like what's safe to speak about and what's not safe to speak about, especially with the powers that be being so powerful and that running so deep. Obviously my music came out and obviously I'm super supportive. So absolutely no problem from my record label. I have experienced a lot of pushback, I've experienced a lot of loss. I've experienced a lot of things that were promised and set up for this rollout and album to happen that were supposed to be a lot of firsts, really. Yeah. Magazines and, and these things and those have brand deals and opportunities that we're sad to lose. But at the end of the day, like I don't regret doing something that I, I can go to sleep at night. I can go to sleep knowing that like what I learned to be as an artist, I'm al with because I grew up fully understanding the role of art in liberation.
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Stay.
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Stay on top of what's happening by signing up@washingtonpost.com pod that's washingtonpost.com pod and that's not to place myself in alignment with those artists and those revolutionary acts. But that's to say, I understood what it meant to not be silent even if I Never put it with the song in the video, even if just me speaking out. I always knew what it meant to have a platform and that responsibility in that way. And like, I can go to sleep knowing that, like, I don't. I can look myself in the mirror, you know, and know that I did, I did the right thing.
Charlamagne Tha God
Do these magazines and stuff. Tell your people. Why do they say you always heard advocacy of Palestine?
Meta Advertiser
Those are really big buildings with a lot of people involved, so it always makes its way back.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. You also mentioned that your advocacy for Palestine caused a lot of artists to ignore your response for collaboration.
Meta Advertiser
So I was talking very fast on a live, very caffeinated early in the morning, and I wasn't able to like, really elaborate on that. There are a lot of more people. People involved on artist teams than just the artists. And it also wasn't every single feature. There were certain people who didn't get it back in time or it wasn't aligned with, like, the timing of their album. I didn't mean every single artist, but there were artists that I did reach to and someone on the team was like, we don't with her. Or they said this. And then another thing made its way to me. Or like a nut. Like, things you. We know, we know things travel, we know people have conversations and those people have conversations and people were respectful enough to not, you know, text me back and say, girl, you, I'm a Zionist. You know, things like that. But I wasn't able to really elaborate that when I. And I would never. I would never sit here and name names because it's not about that. It's more about how insidious the industries are and that we can be so afraid to lose what we've built because so many of us have come from nothing to where we have this scarcity mindset of like, I have to protect what I have going on so hard that I will do anything to stay in that world to protect it. Because I have to keep feeding my family. I have to keep, you know, building my legacy. I have to do that. I don't want to chance that. And it's sad because that thing that does get dangled in front of our faces when it comes to really important political matters that people don't align with. It's sad, it's unfortunate. And I don't. I'm not mad at anyone. I'm not holding anything against anyone. I was definitely on that live. Like, yeah. And by the way, let me tell y'all about. But I definitely have those moments where I'm like this up, but typically I'm. I'm a. I'm a longer thinker, and I have more to the thought. And. And it was just unfortunate.
Charlamagne Tha God
And you raised over a half a million dollars for Gaza, Sudan, and the Congo. Do you think money is the only way people can help?
Meta Advertiser
Absolutely not. I think in every single issue, the idea is that you're supposed to listen to the requests of the people at the core of the issue. You're supposed to abide by the request of the most oppressed. And they have asked us to literally speak. That's the thing about this whole social media doesn't do anything. Speaking doesn't do anything. Awareness doesn't do anything thing. But those. There are people in Congo who are just saying, make our stories heard. There are people in Sudan who go, just speak about us. They're not talking about us on the news. They're not talking about us in these magazines. They're not talking about us anywhere. But you guys are. Gaza opened the door for people to even be aware of Congo and Sudan on a global scale, because those issues have preceded this genocide. Those genocides have been. Have been happening. Those famous Yemens, that extreme like displacement, those have already been existing. And Gaza has opened up the world to. To Haiti, to Yemen, to all of these places as that all this is going on. So the least we can do is share things here and there. And you don't have to have money, but if you do, you should put it where your mouth is. For sure.
AT&T Advertiser
I was gonna ask.
Meta Advertiser
Absolutely. Yeah. You are a West coast girl. Yeah. What you think about Kendrick? I knew where this was going. I just want to stuff. Who was rooting for Drake?
Charlamagne Tha God
Wasn't you rooting for Drake?
Meta Advertiser
I haven't publicly rooted for anyone, but have you not seen me at the club dancing?
Charlamagne Tha God
And I like us in the hall? You was humming.
Meta Advertiser
Oh, you could hear me through the sound. See how they trying to pin on me in this way? Amazing. I very much respect both artists. Drake actually named my album. It was good until it wasn't. He shown me a lot of love over time, like, publicly, privately. So has Kendrick like that album he did. We were having a conversation, and I told him what I wanted to name it, and then he was like, no, what's going on in Life? And I told him, and he was like. And I was like, yeah, it was. Honestly, it was good. Until it wasn't. He was like, if you don't use it as your album title, I am. And I was like, okay, right. You're right then it is a very Drake album title. I think it's. It came down to if. If I'm on some west coast, I'm. I'm from the West. Like, I know. I know what. How important this unity is of all of us, and I know how imperative this representation of us is. Like, I love Kendrick. I. That's the only artist I've ever stood in a line and like, waited to get something signed for when I was in high school. Like, soundtrack to my life. So I have no, like, personal entrances in anything. I'm just as a fan of the music west, big west. Just musically, though, music, I mean, we have to respect what we. What we saw.
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Meta Advertiser
Oh, my God. Hilarious.
Charlamagne Tha God
So listen, when you sing Not Like Us, do you feel bad because it's so catchy.
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I have had moments where I was like, in the club and I seen that it's a club thing and I was like, damn, this is crazy. But I also remember every single big diss track in history being able to be played for massive groups of people gathering and it being a thing that everybody is. Like, I was too young for, like the Ether era, but, like, everybody talks about it and they're like, this was crazy.
AT&T Advertiser
Like, this. This is in the club every night, though. Ethan wasn't in the club. It was more.
Meta Advertiser
I mean, back to back was in the club.
AT&T Advertiser
Back to back was in the club.
Meta Advertiser
Yeah. So it' eras. It's moments. Honestly, I'm. I'm not in hip hop, so I can't speak to the sport of it, but, like, it's a sport, I guess.
Charlamagne Tha God
You ever text Drake like, yo, man, you did your thing. Nothing to be ashamed about. It was all good.
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I feel like he has real people around him who hold him down, and I feel like it's taking that moment to be like, hey, by the way, let me make sure you know I support you. Yeah, he's got his folks.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
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You mentioned a tour. Are we getting a crash tour? Absolutely. I made this album two tour specifically. Like, there was so many sounds where I was like, this is going to be so fun to sing. It's going to be so fun to dance to. It's going to be so fun to play with a band. So. Absolutely. Well, I think for me, touring is the epicenter of my, like, my career to the point where sometimes you don't even see. You can't even really tell what's going on with the music streaming and charting. Wise people are like, what and then you come to the tour and it's these huge venues and people are like, I actually had no idea. Because when I look at how it's doing over there, and it's just a classic example for me of. Of like, impact versus, you know, numbers. And my shows are huge. My shows are a blast. Everybody has a great time. Everybody feels safe. Everybody has fun. Like, that is what's important to me. So we're gonna do it again, for sure. That's what's up. Because by then I would have had my baby and I can get big high. You miss it very much. Okay. I'm not like you, girl. I'm gonna smoke.
Martine Powers
Okay.
Meta Advertiser
But enjoy. Not back was, though. Yeah, people. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm starting to get off the backwoods movement with all the friends. Take care of yourself.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't like no plant based medicines.
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I like CBD a lot. I like mushrooms. I ate a lot of mushrooms making this album. You might could tell there's some trippiness on here.
AT&T Advertiser
Yeah, well, the album Crash is out now.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
AT&T Advertiser
What you want to hear? Don't say after hours. We play that already. So what you want to hear besides that?
Meta Advertiser
Play deep. Deep on. That's a fun one.
AT&T Advertiser
Deep. All right, well, let's get into deep right now. Make sure you pick up the album if you haven't got it already. And congratulations on everything.
Meta Advertiser
Thank you.
AT&T Advertiser
I love the fact that you're just happy. You just look happy.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's the most important thing. I'm happy that you are in a place of peace.
Meta Advertiser
Thank you. I'm super happy.
AT&T Advertiser
Well, it's Kalani, ladies and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club.
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Good morning.
AT&T Advertiser
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We have a special guest in the building today. Uh, she's part of our family. Part of the Breakfast Club family. Of course.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right. If you've ever been up here to the Breakfast Club over the last 15 years, at some point you saw this.
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This woman, Ms. Anita. That's right, Ms. Anita. She held down the front desk for how long, Miss Anita?
DJ Envy
18 years.
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18 years.
DJ Envy
She's 18 wonderful years.
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Happy face that you see when you walk in the door. If you're sad, if you're upset, she's gonna give you that boost of energy.
Charlamagne Tha God
That great hug, that great hug in the morning.
AT&T Advertiser
Yes, ladies and gentlemen. And she has a new book here, Hip Hop Time Capsule out right now. Ladies and gentlemen, how do you pronounce your Last name?
Chloe Bailey
Scipio.
AT&T Advertiser
Ms. Anita Scipio.
DJ Envy
Actually, the book will be out next Friday on Amazon, and I'm really, really excited about it. It's called Hip Hop Time Capsule Document yout Personal Journey.
Charlamagne Tha God
You see what happens when you retire.
Martine Powers
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
You got time to do other stuff.
DJ Envy
I had plenty of time to do a lot of stuff. So this is one of two books that I'll be doing. I'm gonna be doing a series, but for right now, this is. This has 100 questions for people to document their experience, their love, and their knowledge of hip hop. So their prompt questions, I feel. I went to the 50th anniversary of hip hop in Yankee Stadium, and I saw people there, all ages, with their hip hop gear. From 70 to 15. It looked like everybody. And I said, each one of those people have a story about what hip hop means to them, of course. And I didn't see anything on Amazon that has prompt questions that invite people to tell their stories. So I said, okay. I invited my brother, DJ Scipio Charlemagne. You know, DJ Scipio, he was born and raised in New York City and then moved to South Carolina, and he's killing it down there. And I invite him. I said, come and help me get these questions together so we can get people to tell their personal journey about hip hop. I added 50, 50 trivia questions and answers, and then 50 quotes from the biggest legends in hip hop that are positive and timeless. So 20 years from now, you can go back and find a quote that's going to still resonate with you. And then my brother and I, we documented, we answered the very questions that we are asking of others. So in doing so, we're telling our story as well. And then to top it off, if we mention a song or a point in history that was very important to us, we have a QR code that you could put your phone right up to the book and you're there. So it's interactive. If I talk about salt and pepper and how much a particular song meant to the culture, salt and pepper song is gonna be there.
AT&T Advertiser
Wow.
DJ Envy
And so we kind of do the work for people who are trying to learn about hip hop and who love hip hop. Hip hop. So I'm. We're very proud. I'm very proud of it. Yes, it was a long, hard time coming, but I'm sitting on the Breakfast Club right now. I don't even know what to do with myself. I'm so grateful.
AT&T Advertiser
Well, you said 18 years. So you ran into a bunch of celebrities, a bunch of guests, a Bunch of family members who are some of your favorites and why? Snoop.
DJ Envy
Snoop Dogg.
AT&T Advertiser
He ain't trying to smoke with you, right? He ain't trying to smoke with you, right?
DJ Envy
Well, he was gonna offer me a. Me a nip. He said he would give me a nip. Charlie, man, you melting the Breakfast Club. You asked him. So you're gonna give Mississippi Miss Anita a nip? He said, yeah, I'll give her a nip.
AT&T Advertiser
What's a nip? Oh.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
DJ Envy
Every time Snoop Dogg and Wiz Khalifa got off the elevator, all you see is a puff of smoke, and then they would just appear. So I love Snoop Dogg, but as so many other artists and legends that I love so much and so that I go into more detail in Hip Hop Time Capsule, the next chapter, where I have all of my pictures with them and I tell personal stories about each of them. So you're going to find some stories in this one, but in the next book, it's a more detailed story of our bond and the mutual respect and love that we have for each other. As a matter of fact, when you see the pictures, you can tell that there's a real bond there. I talk about DMX and how he came on his birthday and he was sipping some Hennessy.
AT&T Advertiser
Oh, that was that day.
DJ Envy
Yeah. And he. He. He came over, he said, auntie, anytime you hear my name, I want you to pray for me. And I said that I would. Anytime you hear my name, see my face. So I said, I will do that. So he left about an hour. About a half an hour later, I go down to lunch. DMX is down there by the hot dog stand. You want a hot dog?
Martine Powers
Dog.
DJ Envy
He's offering people hot dogs and people like what? DMX was buying people hot dogs.
Charlamagne Tha God
So I remember now that's when he got drunk and he ate up all the hot dogs and he started throwing up.
DJ Envy
Yeah, he was right here. So. So I have great stories. I have some stories in here, but the main focus of this book is for people to document their own journey. You know, I mean, at a time when, you know, other people can lay claim to certain aspects of him. Hip hop, I just want it to be documented what people have gone through, what it means to them. And you're going to learn a whole lot about hip hop in the interim.
Charlamagne Tha God
So, Mr. Needle, one of those people who reminds you that whatever. Whatever you're doing, just be the best at it.
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DJ Envy
Be the best at it. That's right. I love. You know what Dr. King said, even if You're a street sweeper. You know, be the best at it. You know, do it. Do it right. Be proud of what you do do. So when I tired, I was looking for a purpose. I'm like, God, I. I need something to focus on. And it was that experience at the hip hop 50th anniversary. And it came to me like that, that all of those people, those hundreds of thousands of people sitting in those seats, have a story of why they are there. And so Hip Hop time capsule. Document your personal journey. That was the. That was the impetus to do the book.
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Now you have a strong bond with a comedian that people might not know. Doesn't really have a big name, real local.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why is you playing Donnell, Rollins?
Martine Powers
Yeah.
Meta Advertiser
Why you playing around like that?
Martine Powers
You know who that is?
AT&T Advertiser
Yes, I do know that. I didn't know who that was.
DJ Envy
Donnell. I love Donnell.
AT&T Advertiser
Now you went to Donnell's lake. He took you to the lake and all that.
DJ Envy
Donnell took me to the lake. He flew me out.
Meta Advertiser
That's.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, mama.
Chloe Bailey
He flew me out.
DJ Envy
Me out twice.
Meta Advertiser
Okay.
DJ Envy
Donnell, he invited me to go to Donnell land. And I think that was in August. I'm not. I can't remember right off the top of my head. Put me in the best hotel. It was a wonderful experience. So much love. People of all ethnic backgrounds just loving each other, having the most awesome time. Then he flew me back out again for the fourth of July. Then I'm hanging around with. With Dave Chappelle and his wife Elaine with Common, and it was just beautiful. And he just shows me so much love. He had a car sent for me to go to his comedy show in New Jersey.
Charlamagne Tha God
Was it a car service or an Uber?
DJ Envy
It was. It was actual car service that matters. Just make sure about me, you know what I'm saying? He was hysterical. Absolutely hysterical.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nobody ever.
DJ Envy
And I'm not just saying that because I love him. He was hysterical.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's a funny guy.
DJ Envy
Hysterical.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's a bit.
DJ Envy
Give it to him. So, yeah, I love Darnell. He. He, you know, he took me away from YouTube and said, Come on. And I felt like a celebrity again. You know what I'm saying? It just felt so.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good book at all.
DJ Envy
Oh, heck, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Thank you so much for having me. Happy holidays. Holidays to you all and I love you all. Bless you all and thank you again.
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Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club BEST OF - Queens of R&B - Kehlani, Chloe Bailey, Marsha Ambrosius + More
Release Date: December 27, 2024 | Host: Charlamagne Tha God & DJ Envy | iHeartPodcasts
In this special "Best Of" episode of The Breakfast Club, hosts Charlamagne Tha God and DJ Envy celebrate the powerhouse women of R&B. Featuring interviews with prominent artists such as Chloe Bailey, Marsha Ambrosius, and Kehlani, the episode delves into their musical journeys, personal growth, and the challenges they've overcome in the music industry. Additionally, the show includes heartfelt listener calls, showcasing the show's interactive nature and its commitment to addressing real-life issues.
The episode kicks off with Charlamagne Tha God and DJ Envy setting the stage for a celebration of R&B's "Queens." They introduce the main guests—Chloe Bailey, Marsha Ambrosius, and Kehlani—highlighting their significant contributions to the genre.
One of the early segments features a poignant call from Amanda, a 28-year-old teacher from Virginia who recently quit her job due to overwhelming stress and mental health struggles.
Amanda's Call ([03:08] - [06:21]): Amanda shares her emotional turmoil after six years in the teaching profession, expressing fear and uncertainty about her future. She reveals experiencing panic attacks and feeling undervalued.
Charlamagne's Response ([03:41] - [06:02]): Charlamagne offers compassionate advice, emphasizing that Amanda is not failing at life. He encourages her to trust her instincts and seek new opportunities, highlighting the importance of mental health and personal fulfillment.
Charlamagne Tha God ([04:24] - [05:29]): "You are not failing at life, man. Embrace everything that happens to you... Everything is just part of a process. You gotta trust your instincts."
The segment concludes with Charlamagne financially supporting Amanda through Cash App, showcasing the hosts' commitment to helping listeners in need.
Chloe Bailey, a versatile artist known for her dynamic vocals and creative prowess, shares insights into her latest album, "In Pieces," and her personal evolution.
Album Discussion ([10:12] - [15:35]): Chloe explains the double entendre behind her album title "In Pieces," symbolizing both fragmented personal experiences and breaking free from others' perceptions of her.
Chloe Bailey ([10:12] - [10:41]): "In Pieces represents the pieces of my heart that have been left broken from life... it's also what people try to put me in as Chloe."
Sisterly Bond ([11:59] - [14:07]): She discusses the deep bond with her sister, Holly, and how their temporary separation during the pandemic fostered individual growth and confidence.
Chloe Bailey ([12:17] - [12:48]): "I had to force myself to speak up for myself because I didn't have my sister right there doing it for me... Now we're both stronger."
Mental Health and Resilience ([14:56] - [15:35]): Addressing negativity and personal anger, Chloe emphasizes forgiveness and self-empowerment, illustrating her journey toward emotional stability.
Chloe Bailey ([15:19] - [15:38]): "We never have to do the work. Karma speaks for itself... So I just let them dig themselves in a ditch."
Marsha Ambrosius, renowned for her soulful voice and songwriting skills, discusses her latest project, "Casablanco," and her collaboration with Dr. Dre.
Album Creation ([27:09] - [33:35]): Marsha delves into the creative process behind "Casablanco," highlighting the fusion of vintage Hollywood jazz with hip-hop elements. She recounts her collaboration with Dr. Dre, including overcoming his health challenges and their unique artistic synergy.
Marsha Ambrosius ([28:42] - [33:35]): "Casablanco is a fusion of vintage jazz and hip-hop. Working with Dr. Dre was a surreal experience, especially as we navigated his recovery and creative processes together."
Musical Influences and Legacy ([30:05] - [33:35]): She reflects on hip-hop's evolution and the timeless nature of the genre, expressing pride in her contributions and the innovative aspects of her album.
Marsha Ambrosius ([31:04] - [33:35]): "We blended elements that shouldn't make sense, like Wu Tang and Duke Ellington, but it worked seamlessly."
While the provided transcript doesn't include extensive details about Kehlani's interview, it's highlighted as one of the main guests celebrating the Queens of R&B.
A humorous segment where hosts Charlamagne Tha God and DJ Envy mockingly select a "Donkey of the Day" based on listener stories, adding levity to the episode.
Ms. Anita Scipio, a long-time member of The Breakfast Club family, discusses her new book, "Hip Hop Time Capsule," which invites fans to document their personal journeys with hip-hop.
Book Introduction ([91:27] - [99:57]): Anita explains the inspiration behind her book, emphasizing the importance of personal storytelling in hip-hop culture. She shares anecdotes about legendary artists like DMX and Snoop Dogg, illustrating the deep connections within the hip-hop community.
Ms. Anita Scipio ([92:01] - [99:57]): "Hip Hop Time Capsule is about documenting personal journeys... It's interactive, with QR codes linking to important moments and songs in hip-hop history."
The episode concludes with a powerful message from Charlamagne, encouraging listeners to believe in their limitless potential.
Charlamagne Tha God ([100:14] - [100:22]): "The positive note is simply this, man, I want you to remember this. This weekend, the only limits you have are the limits you believe you have."
Charlamagne Tha God on Personal Growth:
"[04:24] Charlamagne Tha God: ... Everything is just part of a process. You gotta trust your instincts."
Chloe Bailey on Empowerment:
"[12:17] Chloe Bailey: ... We both have a great sense of self... we're stronger."
Marsha Ambrosius on Artistic Fusion:
"[31:04] Marsha Ambrosius: ... We blended elements that shouldn't make sense, like Wu Tang and Duke Ellington, but it worked seamlessly."
Chloe Bailey on Mental Health:
"[15:19] Chloe Bailey: ... I just let them dig themselves in a ditch."
Charlamagne Tha God on Self-Belief:
"[100:22] Charlamagne Tha God: This weekend, the only limits you have are the limits you believe you have."
Mental Health Awareness: Both listener Amanda's story and Chloe Bailey's experiences underscore the importance of mental health, resilience, and seeking support during challenging times.
Artistic Evolution: Guests discuss their creative processes, highlighting how personal growth and external challenges influence their music. Marsha's collaboration with Dr. Dre exemplifies overcoming obstacles to produce groundbreaking work.
Sisterly Bonds and Personal Relationships: Chloe Bailey's discussion about her relationship with her sister reveals how personal connections foster individual growth and confidence, essential for artistic expression.
Navigating the Music Industry: The conversations delve into the complexities of the music industry, including dealing with criticism, maintaining authenticity, and balancing personal life with professional demands.
Cultural Impact of Hip-Hop: Through Ms. Anita Scipio's book, the episode emphasizes hip-hop's role in personal storytelling and cultural expression, encouraging listeners to document their own journeys within the genre.
This episode of The Breakfast Club serves as a deep dive into the lives and minds of R&B's leading women. Through heartfelt listener interactions and in-depth interviews, listeners gain valuable insights into the intersection of personal growth, artistic expression, and mental health. The hosts and guests collectively highlight the transformative power of music and the enduring resilience required to thrive in the ever-evolving landscape of the music industry.