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It's Tuesday. Yes. And today's show is all about relationships and it's in studio. Relationships? No, not me and Charlamagne. But we're talking about some of our spouses, exes and boyfriends and girlfriends. That's right. Well, today my wife Gia will be joining us. Of course we have a book, Real Life, Real Love. And a new book coming out in the new year called Real Life, Real Family. But we're going to be talking everything relationship and also room stop through. That's Jess's baby daddy and we'll be talking to him about co parenting and relationships. So that's today's show. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake up, Wake up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this? It's Tony. Tony, what's up? Get it off your chest, man. My girl been cheating on me for past two years. Just found out about it, that is. I'm sorry. Damn. How'd you find out, bro? Man, my dude from the joint called to let me know. Damn. How he know? He in jail. He cool with the dude. Damn, that's horrible. Hey, I'm sorry. It is. And I've been being stepdad in a year for two years with the baby shame in mind. Damn. What you gonna do, Tony? You leaving or you staying? Be honest with us. I'm leaving. Did you leave already or you, you, you, you Finnegan? Nah, I'm in the process. This happened Friday. I'm three days in leaving. Did you tell her yet? You tell her you found out? Yeah. Yeah. Did she admit to it? No. That's what I'm saying. That the dude told me the truth. She lied like usual. But the dude told me the truth. How you know he's not just trying to break up your happy home? He ain't got no reason to. They never do. I think you should right with her before you get that new apartment. He did. She lied. She said she wasn't cheating. Exactly. And then he said he told me yeah, I've been messing with her since 2022. Like, wow, there got to be more to the story. Black women don't cheat, man. Cut it out. That's all. Women cheat. Yeah. Black men don't cheat. All right, Tony. Nah, but that's all I wanted, man. Y'all have a good day. Hello? Who's this? Hey, good morning. It's Dawn. What's up, Dawn? Where you calling from? Can't you tell? I'm like, way out south. Riverdale, Georgia. River down, Georgia. Good, Dawn. Good morning. Get it off your chest. All right. Okay. I'm just going to have to start letting it roll because I've been so furious and so mad since the election. D, you been drinking this morning? No, I ain't been drinking. Okay, sorry, go ahead. I just. What are you talking about? Like, cuz I'm talking slow. Nope. Yes, cuz, you talking slow. I have to talk. I have to talk slow. Nobody can understand what I'm saying because I'm like, so. So from. All right, go ahead. And then I'm like, I. Huh? I said go ahead, Mama. Get it off your chest. I'm sorry for interrupting you. Oh, no, you're cool. Hey, dj. I appreciate y'all, Eddie and Charlemagne. I enjoy y'all so much. Okay, so I'm like, really sick of Trump. And I'm like, I don't understand why they had two people tried to take out this guy and they both failed. First of all, we don't wish. We don't wish political violence on any elected official, man. Nobody at all. Ma'am. We don't do that. That's not what we do. I agree. You had as well. Even spoke. She drunk. And it's like when somebody tell you something and you know you're drunk and you soap up real fast. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. No, I swear I'm not drunk. Where you calling from? Georgia. Riverland Road, Georgia. I never heard of Riverland, Georgia. What'd that say? She did an incredible hawk this morning. It's. I'm sorry. It's Riverdale. Oh, Riverdale. In Atlanta. Like, near. Okay. In the Atlanta. Well, yeah, in that area. Yeah. Yeah. I'm 20 minutes from the Atlanta airport. Okay. You know, like Little Baby and all those songs? Yeah. I'm from Clay. I'm from Clayco. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, nice to hear from you this morning. Thank you so much. Salute to everybody who listens to us on 96 1. The beat out there in Atlanta. That's right. You on your way to work. Hold tight, Charlemagne. Hey, I want a book. Charlamagne. You don't scratch me as a reading tight. But I'll send you a book. I'll send you a copy of my new book, Get Honest or die Lying. Watch them all talk sucks. I have a bunch of them in here right now. I appreciate it, baby. Will you sign it? I will sign it. What's your name again? Dawn. God, you're awesome. It's Dawn. Then that is you I'm assigning right now. Hold on, drunk ass Dawn. All right, dawn, you have to hold on, Dawn. Cheers to Dawn. I'm signing into drunk ass freaking weekend. And dawn, dawn, don't hang up, okay? I'm signing it for you right now. Hanging up because I need to know how I get that book. That's right. Hold on. Eddie gonna put you on hold again, okay, dawn, he literally is signing the book right now for you. Dawn. I'm literally signing it right now. You gonna remember you asked for this book? Nope. Oh, yeah. All right, dawn, hold on. Peace, drunk ass Dawn. I'm signing it right now. All right, dawn, you have a good one. Okay, Be safe. Hold on. Do not hang up. See, look. Thank God. I'm not hanging up. Y'all be. I'm praying for y'all. Y'all be safe. Thank you. I'm praying for you. Hey, yo, Jesus Christ. All right, Eddie, make sure you get Dawn's address, man. I got her book right here. Signed, sealed, just need to be delivered. All right. Get it off your chest. 8005851. 105 on the breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this? It's Taro, dear. How you doing this morning? Tario. What's up? Get it off your chest, brother. All right. Good morning. Sh. Name to God. Peace, gang. How you doing, brother? I'm good. How you doing? Welcome back. Yes. Congratulations, baby. In this hotel. Want to bring wet. I been in the hospital for, like, eight days about prostate. I had a lot of infection around my prostate. I hear y'all talking about colonoscopies and all that a lot. Yes, sir. Prostate, man. Because that's what my knife. I went ill. I went on one building to Came back with. I can't hear what you're saying. But you said. I heard that you say you was in the hospital for eight days because you had an infection around your prostate, right. And I just want to bring awareness to it. That's right, man. Listen, you know, we. We make jokes and stuff because, you know, whenever you think about something in your butt, it makes you giggle. But the reality of the situation is that's why we go get colonoscopies and all of that stuff. Because of prostate cancer. Yeah, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? But Charlemagne, that ain't got nothing to do with you, but that got something to do with your main vein. What you mean? You know what your main thing is? Your penis? Yes, with a capital in there. They got a thing bigger than the number 10 pencil. I don't know about that. Now put me on. Now you need to school me. What you talking about? I thought the prostate. What that got to do? What you talking about? Prostate pretty much will run your bladder. They run your. Your urine so they put you to sleep. You wake up with a big old thing coming at you. And depending out of capsule. When I got a prostate exam, the doctor put that glove on and put that finger in my butt to make sure my prostate wasn't enlarged. No, I had infection already. Not knowing that I had it. Oh, got you, got you, got you. Okay, okay, okay. All right. Okay. But how you doing now, bro? Yes. Ah. I said, how you doing now? I'm doing fine. I'm up and moving. It wasn't no arms back. You know, they kept me in hospital so long to get the infection out. Yes, sir. But other than that, you know, I'm up, moving, and walk. I'm moving, walk regular. And this is why you got to get prostate exams early and regular so you don't end up having an infection. That's right. You got to go. Make sure you check, get yourself checked out. Go to the doctor. Don't be too cool. Don't be scared. Go to the doctor. I ended up getting a prostate because I went for a vasectomy, and the vasectomy turned into a prostate exam. Now, that confused me. You know what I mean? Cause I thought that, you know, he liked what he saw. He just wanted to turn me around and get a little freaky. Freaky. You let me do it. I mean, I had to call a lot of people before I called a lot. I had to call a lot of people like, yo, this regular, man. I just came here for a vasectomy for consultation, man. I came for a breathing test. He telling me to turn around. You know what I mean? Hello? Who's this? Yo, what up, Breakfast Club? It's Nando, Nando, what up? Get it off your chest. Good morning. Yo, man, I just wanted to shout out my merch on Instagram if I could. It's Underdog fitted. Yeah, I just wanted to shout it out. It's. I make original underdog fitted hats and snapbacks by the downright. It's actually merch for my book that I'm writing, and I was trying to get some help from Charlamagne, if you could help me, you know, finish this book I'm trying to write and publish it and everything. Yeah, send me the manuscript, man, if you got a manuscript or like, I like a one sheet of. Of what the book is about when we put you on hold so you get all the email info. Okay. All right, I got you. All right, brother. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the event, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa is filling in. And we got some special guests in the building. We have Tamela and David Mann. Welcome. What up, though? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for happy. Good morning. Now, just in case y'all wondering why I'm here, I walked in the door and she sit down. Yes, ma'am. I'm in your house, cuz. Ms. Man is here to promote her new album Live, Breathe, Fight. But I mean, y'all been doing things together forever. Like, do y'all even know life without each other? No, and I don't want to either. Look, we got married at 21, so we've been married 36 years. That's a long time. No separations. I, like, say that. There you go. We worked through it. Did y'all know as soon as y'all saw each other like she did? Cause I was that kind of guy. No. Whatever. No, we did not. But we were just friends. Okay. But it wasn't long after, though, that I knew. But I wouldn't let him know that I. That I felt like that like he was the one. I felt like he was the one, but I was like, I don't know. Cause, you know, David had a little play in him. So when did you realize? When did I realize? It was probably. It was fairly some months that. Because we started singing together early. So it was some months. And David started protecting me, even, like with the other guys, because I was the only girl in the group a singing. And he Would always like, y'all don't horse play. Yeah, she's a singing group, like. So y'all know me, Kirk Franklin and another guy, Darryl Blair. So Kirk Franklin and I've been friends for like 40 something. Yeah. He was 15 when I met school together. So it just. But I just felt like if it works out, I said. I said, I really like this dude, but, you know, I have to just see, wait and see, watch his playaways. Yeah, yeah. You know, and it did his plays play away. She. She actually busted me one time with my. With a couple other girls that I was with. I was just looking. She was just looking. I didn't bust you. You bust yourself. They threw me a surprise birthday party. Both girls? No. Well, we were. No, they just. We were all this friends. You know how you invite people? Okay, we're gonna do this. They should have told me at this house. We meeting at this house. But he brought somebody with him so that we didn't know that he was gonna bring somebody. But it was just people that we all knew I was doing a little much. I'm for real. That's why I wouldn't hook up with her because she was my friend. And I knew once I started that that was it. She wasn't going nowhere. Nope. Then once I said, I do, I am, I will. All right? And here I am. So what do you tell young couples? Because you said something, you said, I bet you've been together that long. Separation and never separation. Right? Me and my wife, we've been married 23 years, been together 31. No separations. Right. We worked through everything. Good, bad, ugly, whatever. So what do you tell young couples? We took divorce off the table. And the thing is, is to. Sometimes you gotta just separate in, for instance, in the house, to just gather your thoughts versus, like throwing venom, like, at the heat of the moment. Sometimes you just have to back up. Okay? Just take a minute and digest what's happening versus. So you won't say, pierce, I say piercing things. I've been saying that since the beginning. Because you can say stuff when you're angry and you can't take them words back. Because no matter if somebody say, I'm sorry and I forgive you, but in the back of your head, you still think. You never try to resolve issues in. In the middle of a battle. Right? I mean, you. You just let it calm down a little, period. Just cool it off a little bit. When you're trying to resolve stuff in the middle of war, it gets a little hard because, you know early on, like, she say, just I. I'm quick with. Quick with my mouth, quick with tongue. So I would just say piercing stuff. And I just started to see how, man, this is devastating, this woman. It's crushing her. So, you know, I just start building her up. What's the worst battle that you guys got into that you remember that it was just nasty. And you was going at her neck. She was going at your neck. Okay, so, like, we talk. Which one you going to say? The knock at the door. Yes, the knock at the door. Knock at the door. Imagine this. Imagine she's at work, you at the house, and the constable knock on the door and say, hey, here you go. Here, the paper. You've been served. You've been served. And say, served with what? What? Oh, you have a baby. I'm like, what? I got a new. Yeah. And so she comes home and is like, hey, how your day been? I'm good. This is how long y'all were married at this time? We were married five years by this time. So before I got married, I. One of them last come by. The last little hit. Yeah. Relapse always get you. Yeah. And so imagine her coming home and say, hey, how's your day? Oh, my day was good. What you do today? Oh, I got us another baby. Oh, that's how you said it. No, I did not. It took him some time to get it out. Okay. I rehearsed it because on the way home. Okay, I'm gonna tell her like this. So, you know, you remember. Nah, I can't say it that way. So you know the time. And I could. I just tried to rehearse it. So finally I had to come and say, dear, you know, I might have a child that, you know, that I had. And he. The thing is, is he had two. He had two. He said from a previous argument. That's what he calls it. So that he's. But they, you know, two. Two different ladies. Things that have happened. My two daughters, the best thing. So it's like I told him. I said, okay, now I accepted the one. Because I was there when she was born. Cause we was best friends. She was at the hospital. I went to the hospital when she was born. The whole 21 hours, y'all sit there. But as he came and said this to me about the other young lady, which I knew about the other young lady. And I knew that they had been intimate. I knew they had a thing going. But for how it was presented, it was rough for me to take. You know, I was like, I Don't know, because the chick, God bless her, we're in a better place now. But then she was rough to deal with, right? You had to put holy hands on her. I didn't put no holy hands on. You know, I just had. We had words, but not even to. You know what? We talked about it, and David really pulled me before we got there. It got really bad because she was like, I can't deal with this. I'm out. And I. I shared with her, like, look, it's me and you against everything. That's the breakdown he gave it. It's me and you against everything else, because I know that this is a hard situation to swallow. I know I put us in a bad situation. I tell my kids now, I say, look, I put y'all in a bad situation because now you got to go over to your mom's house for Christmas, okay? I'm about to have Thanksgiving. I say, that's a hard place to put kids. And I say, I take full responsibility. I mean, that my. My two old daughter's best thing ever happened. You see him now? I went to get the. The blood test. You know how you go in to do the test, and I was gonna go and do a test, and you know the first thing. Baby probably ain't mine. That baby ain't mine. So by now she's five. And I walk in the place, and I look down at this little face. We ain't gotta take no blood. Her face is exactly like mine. But to me, she looked like him and she looked like her. So it's like she was a great mixture of the two. But when David told me the resolve, for me, DJ Envy was that he did the. The spark thing. He said, it's us, and then it's them. It's everybody. He said, so you never have to worry about me choosing you over them because it's us first and then them. So that gave me a reassurance, and that's. That's in our relationship. I wouldn't have to be fighting to have my place because I knew that I had the papers, but still, you don't want to be worrying with someone else over just stuff that's even outside of your home, right? All right, we have more with Tamela and David, man, when we come back, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess, Hilarious Charlamagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess, and we're still kicking in with David and Tamela Mann. Now, with all that was going on, how did you block out the noise? Right? Because I'm sure you had friends and girlfriends leave him. He's this, that and the other. But no one really, honestly did come to me like that. Because the thing is, is we were in a small community. A lot of us, we were. Yeah, we was church kids. We was in church singing and all this kind of stuff. So all of us did know each other and knew that they had been what they did. What is that? You know, doing what you did. Oh, you know, being involved. So. Yeah, so but if people, they knew me as a person and they knew her as a person. So it's like she had her reputation, I had mine. And it's like no one really never stepped to me and said anything crazy like that, but they was willing to defend me. Now, mind you, when we wrote this book and I put the chapter, the knock at the door at it, girl, he was cheating on you all the time. It's like, do the math. Read the book. Just go read the book. You know, Girl, I knew he was cheating. It's like, you just gotta read and just follow. That's how we living and we breathing and we fight through all the things. You know, 36 years later, we're still building, we're still living because we just believe that heaven is our destiny. You know, we're breathing every breath with purpose. We believe that we have a call, we have a purpose to do what we do, Even to inspire people that follow us in relationships. I mean, this is like you said, everybody wanting us to do this together. Lord, they do, and they expect to see us. It's like, when you see one, it's like, okay, where your husband? You out here by yourself? No, he's here. It's like he just stepped away from me. Trust me. I've been trying to lay in the cut while we've been doing this promo tour. And the same thing, I was like, we fighting together, we doing this together. I really can't see. I mean, I don't see y'all apart. Y'all are really tag teamed back again. Every time we see y'all, we really just feel complete when y'all are together. And if. And that's, that's the. I love the completion of it because he completes me. And my prayer is like, lord, please give us more time. Give us more time together. And it's like I said, I don't know if I can do life without without him. Is that what got Y'all to get into shape because you said, you know, you wanted to live like, you wanted more time. Is that what made y'all say, you know what? Let's get into this? I had whole diabetes scare and all this stuff, and we just, like, we gotta do something. I can't leave her here by herself. It's just too much going on. Just seeing the craziness, and I'm just like, I can't leave her here by herself. I gotta get myself together. And so that's what we're doing. We just a work in progress, you know? Y'all look good, man. Thank you. Working from the inside out. I think the importance of it is, like, this record and doing it is like, mentally working, Coming from a mental space, coming from building the body, doing differently, making better decisions for the body. And that thing is like, so we can be here longer together. And I was. I was telling you off air, thank you so much for what you're doing in this mental health space. Thank you, brother. It means a lot to me as a black man and somebody who's expected to make the world feel good. And I was like, I share with. I was embarrassed to come out with my story of depression and making it, and to hear stories like you, yours and. And you're talking and just putting it in the forefront, it makes people like me say, good. I can share mine without being embarrassed, because I was embarrassed. Really? I mean, like, why embarrassment, though? Because people expect me every time to come out and perform. Be funny. You gotta be funny. You Gotta be you, Mr. Brown. You make the world laugh. Like she said, I grew up. I'm a family. Like, okay, so people expect that. And so they don't know in the background, you dying. You know, literally dying and drowning. And so when people like you come out and. And, you know, make it known, hey, it's cool. I have a therapist and I have Jesus. That's right. Yeah. And so, you know, I just. But even all of y'all. It's just all of y'all lives give. It's. I think it's important that all of us bring what we bring to the table. I feel like this pie is big enough for all of us to have a piece to share it. We can help somebody. I mean, one of our messages, how to get to somebody. I mean, my God. I mean, it's like, with the platforms that we. We have, we should be able to help encourage somebody from any walk of life. I just feel like we're sent here not just for us. We're sent here to help all walks of so what's the message in this album? This album is to live, breathe and fight. Even though you're facing the things you're facing, the songs talking about carry on. Even though that you've dealt with mental health or different, different things in your family or whatever your issues may be, we have to carry on. We deserve to win. After you've done and been through the mess and the upbringings that we've came out of, we deserve to win. You deserve to have some nice things. You deserve to have a smile on your face, to be in a good relationship. You gonna find somebody. I've been watching. I be talking to the screen. Leave her alone. She don't pray though. She don't pray about it. She was kind of like you early on. She was a player. That is not true. But all the men caught on to what she's been doing. Every day I see it. Trust me, I'm watching. You know, I did not start out player, player. Wait a minute. Wait. See, you messed up. You said I didn't start out player. I didn't. I mean, once you get. I wasn't a player. I was. I'm single. I'm just meeting people, you know. And now she kicks the same game to the same guys. That's not true. And they figured it out due to the fact that two gentlemen said, you need to fix yourself. You need to get therapy to come back around. 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Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to historical records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to historical records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Because you needed to heal. No, because he. Don't get me started. A lot of it be. A lot of it be deflecting. And Cap and the language she uses. She be calling these guys things like eaters. Y'all know about that? No, we all. Not my best eater. Yes. I didn't say that. I don't say that. Got him in the phone. Got him labeled in the phone. Eat him. Best eater. That is not true. I would never. That's pretty. But I think we should. But when you look. But when you looking at being found, I think we have to make a list of what we're wanting in a relationship. And then you become the list. Talk that talk. Just know what you want. And it's okay to have standards. But you said that you realize later in life about your value, right? Yeah, but, Gia. Yes, but it takes time for you to get to a certain point where you feel like, okay, now I'm ready to enter back into things. Yes. I just feel like some men don't understand when you're taking that time, and that doesn't mean that you're lonely or without. It's just, you know, you need that time. I stepped away from something. See, that's the healing process. When y'all said for her, taking her time for heal, that's the healing process right there. So she is in the process of being healed. The way she looking at this. So y'all just have to. It's her way. Are you still dating? She was at GHO this weekend. Honestly. What's that? What's ghost? I got eaters. I be with the hoes. Sorry for them. That's okay. I brought y'all into this, and I did not know. It's okay. But as long as you know. Yeah, I know. And I know these guys are. Y'all stop teasing her. Why you gonna come here and try to mama somebody? Because I'm this old. I'm just old. I'm the oldest in here. I'm 58. I did take time before I started dating. I took a lot of time because it was a long relationship that I was in. And then I got back outside, and now here come these two. I see God working on it. Yeah, yeah. You know, Hand On Me is one of my titles. That's right. Hand on me. Hand on me. Because I need to have hands around his throat. What his. The way he got his foot on. He need a choke on it. But I have a song on this called Power, Talking about the power of God. You should listen to it. Shaman. It's a good one. The Power is really just talking about how. Just how the Lord is just maneuvers and how his power just happens over things and to just how he just holds us. I mean, it's just amazing how God just really protects us when we don't know that we being protected. We think we out here doing it ourselves, but the Lord is really shielding us. So it's just. It's just really a blessing to be able to bring. My hope is that it's good music and people can be healed and have inspiration from it. All right, we have more with David and Tamela, man, when we come back. Let's get into a joint off her album. Deserve to win. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking in with David and Tamela Mann. Charlamagne. I was gonna ask about. Lord, I trust you, right? Because you know to what you're speaking about now. You say, when the sun's not shining down on me, when the chaos is overwhelming my peace, when my life is spinning out of control, when I lose my grip and I start to let go, Lord, I trust you. How hard is it to put your trust in God when things aren't going well, when. When you don't see no light at the end? It could be. It could be hard. To me, that's when I have a real good cry. I get in my car a lot because my car, to me, it's like I can get away from everything and have to hear anything. It's like dab it in my closet. It's like a prayer closet and in my car. Because God is like, I don't understand what's happening right now. This last year and a half of things and things coming to me, like, I can't believe that I'm in this situation. I can't believe that I'm having a fight just to prove who I am. And I thought I was doing that, but it's like, okay, Lord, I trust you. I. I trust that you going to handle it. And then that's when the song came for me, working for me. That the Lord just gave me a stamp of approval. You may not see me at work, but I'm working in your behalf that he's working for me. Bless you. Thank you. So it's just. I just take comfort in knowing that he is my guide and he is my help. He's my present help in the time of storm, that even when I don't see and nobody else is around, he's there and I can go to him and I ain't got to worry about him, my business being in the street. That's why testimony is so important, though, right? Because I like to hear other people's stories and what they've been through. And what they've been through. The overcoming of it. That's right. Overcoming it. That was your last album. The Overcomer. Sure was. Overcomer. And that's the thing is. And the Lord has allowed me to finish the work even to the extent of. Even with my body. I reached the goal of, like, even the weight loss that I was trying to do so. But to even spiritually become a writer. Like, I wrote on. It's like I gave direction on every song on this album. So it's like things that I'm proving to myself and showing, like, lord, you know, I wrote the plan down, and I'm following through with the plan, working for me. That was your 11th number one, right? Yes. You broke the record of all time. Number one woman. Wow. Congratulations. With her mentor, her and Kirk, we're tied. Yeah, we're tied for number one. But, I mean, you don't see this stuff coming. You hope people gonna like the music and enjoy it, but it's like when it happened. I don't even look at the charts, y'all. They have. They tell me she never know working for me. You lean into the country music, this. Yeah. So I know, and I know Kirk Franklin is known for dibbling, dabbling different beats and sounds and stuff like that. Have you thought about, like, what, you know, it would be like for you to do other styles or bringing other styles, like the RB or, like, anything secular, but making it gospel, kind of how he does a bit. Well, I kind of have some ballads that's close to maybe R B. I've had a little bit. And we did do a love project, us against the world, that I did like. I have a song that's called Feels. I sing a song that's called Feel like it's really a straight RB song. We didn't push it, but I think it would have really did well. But I just didn't want people to think that I was trying to Do R B music that I still want to stay in my genre because I feel like we all have a part to play. And really, she was afraid of what people were doing. I did. I was. I was. I was very fearful. And it wasn't like I was fighting them, but I was dragging my feet. It's like, I feel like if I can hear whatever, I can sing whatever, you know, like, when you say the country music, it's like, I'm country, y'all. Y'all hear it in my. Just how I talk. But I know about the chickens and the hogs. You know, I was raised actually in the country, so it's like those things to me was. It's like I've been stretched. And a lot of times we only listen to people's single that they have out, but we really don't go listen to the body of work. Even with. Even with the love project we did, she was afraid, like, of what people were gonna think. I'm in the studio. I got my chest hairs out. I got my sunshade. I'm doing my best R and B. Oh, you was right. What I mean, let the lights down. Pull the lights down. I had my shades on. I was doing my. Oh, yeah. And she was like, just have I said that is not how you sing. But then I realized she was afraid of what the church crowd was gonna, you know, think of her. But once I thought about it, it's like, I'm singing to the love of my life. I'm singing to him. I'm not singing for y'all, per se. I mean, thank God for everybody. But I was singing to him. And the song is. You make me feel like. Like I'm on top of the world. And when it's the truth, he does. So it's like, when you hear this song, it's like it just brings it all to life of, like, me talking straight to him or him, you know, feeling like when he touched me, it just. It's just. He still give me goosebumps. So it's like, babe, don't do that. Don't do that, right? Because you're not. You don't do that, right? Don't do that right now. What was wrong with that, though? Y'all married. Why can't two married people have that? It's true, but it's just the society reality that we live in. It's like, our people, we can be judgmental. We could be the most loving, but we also can be the most judgmental when it comes to Christian people I don't understand that about Christianity. I'm not gonna lie. One of the first things they teach. And I love being on this side, but I don't know why we're like that. I have no idea. But it's. It. It just. It does have to be a separation, though, y'all. It has. It's just I wouldn't come and look for you to do certain things, just like you probably wouldn't expect for me to do certain things. And it's not judgmental. You just. It's just like what you've represented. You just like with your parents. It's like sometimes even some. Like our kids like to talk about sex. They don't want us to talk about sex, but we have sex. We have sex. So it's like. But it's just like we make love. People. We do. And people don't want to hear certain things from certain people. So it's not. I don't think all of it is. I would say judging. It's just. I might start always saying, what would Jesus do? Could you see him just pulled back on one? Yes. Oh, he wouldn't smoke some weed. Yeah. Get out of there. Burning bush. Absolutely. Burning bush was to bring a message. Did you say that? I'm gonna push you out to finish. His father created marijuana. The burning bush was not for use. Him smoking. No, the bush was being burnt to show as a sacrifice. So let me ask you a question, Ms. Man sacrifice in the bush that I'm talking about. No, they not. No, they cooking greens. God creates everything for a purpose. God created marijuana. It did, but it. But it. It wasn't for us to. To be like, joyous, walk around and get high. Healing. Now I do believe. Heal. It's healing. It's for healing. Y'all don't think Jesus got high? I don't. I'mma push you up seat. Why you think all them people thought he was walking on water? He turned the water in the wine, so that's the alcohol. And then he turned the fish. The fish in the bread. He multiplied for everybody. That's the munchies. That's the munchies, man. I don't know, man. That is the munchies. I see why you always on him. Come on. Come on, Lauren, get this. This is. I'm with you. This is your time. What I'm doing, I'm allowing him to jump off the cliff on his own. And we just going to watch him go down. Jesus know my heart. He working on me still. Don't try to Bring God on in here. Double time now. Now you see it double. You were just smoking with God. Now you in the double. Yeah. All right. I told you he going to throw up that by yourself, ain't I? Won't he do it? Won't he do it? He's working for us to make. There's the tomatoes. We appreciate you. You know, we have to pray before Charlemagne definitely needs it. We all need it. Father God, we thank you for this day. We thank you for this opportunity to be before your people. We ask you just bless us, Lord God. Bring inspiration, understanding to all of us. God in every area that we need and touch those that are having problems for us in their minds, Lord God, to just bring and lift every weight off of us. Oh, God. We just give you glory for this opportunity. Thank you for the Breakfast Club. Thank you for what they bring for our people. And we give you glory for. For everything that you do. In Jesus name, Amen. Amen. Amen. Always a pleasure, man. Thank you so much. Thank y'all. Pick up the album out right now, live. Breathe, fight. And remember, keep living. Keep breathing. Keep fighting. God did not smoke the burning bush. He did not. That's not it. It was for sacrifice. Come on, get out of there. It's the Breakfast Club. Get out of there. It's the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. DJ Envy, Angela Yee. Charlamagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Never met her before. She's an actress. She's an author. She's a mom. Ladies and gentlemen, she's a wife. And my wife. Yes. Gia. Hello. Welcome. Yeah. What? That's just one name. She's like Madonna. Beyonce. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. How nervous are you, sir? Seriously? I know. He's been acting real weird all morning. I'm fine. Made you nervous. Boo. No. You guys have a book out? Real Life. Real Love. Life lessons on joy, pain, and the magic that holds us together. And I've been dying to ask you this question, Gia. In person. Oh, boy. Here we go. How do you feel about Charlamagne and Envy flirting with each other every day? Um. It kind of turns me on. What? We didn't expect that answer. Now I'm nervous. What the hell? I had that effective. Some people. Okay, explain. No, I mean. I mean, I think it's a little strange, but I'm amused by it. It's just brotherly love, that's all. I'm amused by it. Does anything go too far ever, or. No, it's all in good Fun and entertainment. That's all it is. I don't mind it. So you didn't mind that when he gave me the ass? First of all. Context, please. Context. Everybody doesn't watch the show every day. Context, please. Okay, can you guys sound bite that? When he gave me a mold of his ass. That's right. And it wasn't my ass. It was a mold of a ass. Yes. I thought it was a mold of your actual. No, no. My ain't that fat. And then what about when they touch each other and stuff? That's never happened. We don't touch each other. I've never seen them touch. That hasn't happened? No. You want to tell me something? I need to know. Oh, no. They, like, rub up, brush against each other if they're walking out the door. That's not true. You threaten to rub up against each other. We don't ever do it. They go on the revolving door together. That happened one time. Explain that. Now I need answers. It was stupid. I don't even know how that happened. It was really stupid. It was really dumb. That had to be very intentional. No, it wasn't. I don't even know how one is in and then one makes his way in together. Walking around was so stupid and dumb. You don't just fall. All we did was giggle because it was so stupid. Had to giggle our way through. You just added insult to injury. You're sitting there in the one slot, giggling together. Oh, man. Anyway, back to the matter at hand. I don't lie. Real life, real love. What is that magic that holds y'all together? You think? How would you describe it? You know, whenever I find that people come to our house or are around us, I think they're kind of surprised at how much fun we have together. I find Tim to be very charming, charismatic. And one of the things that I love most about him is his boyish nature. So we really have a lot of fun together. And we always have. Since we first met. The first week we spent together, I thought to myself, wow, he's a lot of fun. Like, he's like a friend, you know? And that's part of the magic. You knew that this was the person you were gonna spend the rest of your life with. After about two weeks of knowing him. Yes. But he knew before y'all even spent a day together. I did explain before we even spent a day together. Well, when I first seen you, I mean, I wrote in the book that I thought you were beautif and amazing. And the first time I saw you were actually running track. And for people that don't know, you know, track. She used to playing track. That's a good one. I like that. It was a skimpy outfit. And, you know, Gia had, you know, big double Ds. And I would stop, basically stalk her outside and just watch her run track and watch her breast bottle. I don't like that word. Don't say stalk. He wasn't stalking. Yeah, but that's actually what he was a young man. It was actually stalking. And I would see him. I would see him sitting with his. His friends in this bright blue Con Edison van because that's what his parents bought him to trans to transfer his DJ equipment from Sweet 16 to Sweet 16. That's what he was DJing at the tenant. And I would see it parked behind the fence. I'm thinking to myself, like, yo, why is this van there every day at track practice? Power out every day. Yo, that was crazy. Yes, it was bright blue. He wasn't low. He was not low. He was just sitting in the van. And then one day he emerged. Actually, babe, do you remember one day he emerged from the van and approached me and kicked it. And I was like, oh, so you're that weirdo that's in the van. But y'all were both kids? Yes, she was 15, I was 16. We went to the same high school, so. So, Emby, you say that you knew that she was gonna be your wife, like, right away. You think it was before y'all even spoke, when you were just stalking her? No, when we actually spoke and, you know, I found out how, you know, beautiful she was inside and outside and how smart she was and caring, and she was just that she was the one. She was the most beautiful thing I ever seen in my life and the most precious thing. So I was like, this is gonna be my wife. I want people to get the book. But I do want, you know, to explain. How do you keep reinventing the relationship when you start that young? Now, envy's 50 something. You know what I mean? You're much, much younger. But how do you not 50? How do you keep reinventing the. I think that that's part of the magic. We don't have to try. We don't intentionally. We do a lot of things intentionally and deliberately, but we don't intentionally reimagine the relationship and act on that. The only thing that I would say that we're good about is keeping it sexy and making sure that that part of our relationship doesn't get too monotonous. And doesn't get stale. So we have a lot of fun in that space, but we don't have to think like, God, how am I gonna stop being bored of you? Or how am I gonna get to a point where you don't annoy me anymore? He legitimately does not annoy me. I look forward to his phone calls every day. And we probably speak on the phone about maybe eight or nine, ten times a day because he's away a lot, you know? So he calls me on his way to the Breakfast Club. He calls me on his way home from the Breakfast Club. He calls me if something happens. He calls me incessantly. It's. And I'm never like, oh, you again. I'm like, oh, come again? You know, it's just that feeling that I've always had that no matter what ups or downs we were going through, that never left me. Now, he told us a story about the cowboy outfit. He told you about that? Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. The cowboy outfit in college with the asses chaps that. No, assless chaps. They were. Yeah, you told us about it. Hold, wait, Rashawn, did you actually tell them about that? Like, on air or in private? I forgot I told y'all about that. He did. Because if it was in private, this is a whole double cross. Right? Now he tells us he dressed up as a cowboy. And his. He had the. Why are you looking at me like that? Cause I remember that day, okay? I remember that day because after he told the story, he goes. And I was like, what? He did when we were in college? Yeah. We went through a stage where we were doing, like, a lot of role playing. Role playing? Yeah. And one night, I dared him to be a cowboy. So we went and got the cowboy outfit. He had, like, the big brown hat, and then he had, like, the little holsters and everything and. Babe, do you remember I took pictures. Where are those? Are they in the book? He. About maybe three years after, he made me physically burn them on the grill. Wow. He put them on the grill and told me I had to light it. Yeah. They don't exist. Don't you wish you still had that? No, but y'all talk about role play in the book. You say, he likes to put on the ROC Nation paper plane hat. And he goes, what's my name? And he wants you to say, jigga, I didn't contribute to that chapter. Okay. That wasn't my work. No, I didn't do that. No. Okay, so wait, they really. So he wasn't lying. They were Assless chaps. Yeah, yeah. He had a whole. It was a whole thing. I just pulled a U on you, Gia. He did not tell us that. Damn it. Tehelse, get my book and you will learn a slew of tactics and tell me a day on how to get what you want out of life. Okay. It was a holster, by the way. They were holsters. Yeah, it was a holster. What some other dress up things you got? All right. It was more so me, okay, Dressing up. And he was just like the recipient of that. That was a one little. And that's why it was a dare, because it was kind of supposed to be a joke, but he never really dressed up. One time I was a nurse and he was a doctor. That was once, huh? Did you really burn the pictures? I really did. Really? In front of him. Wow. You didn't have Kaisers. I kept those. Just put those in the same negative. Okay. I was gonna share that in case anything ever goes left in our relationship. I have that. I will ruin his entire reputation. Never be able to work again. Am I crushing over to a new audience? All right, we got more with my wife, Gia Casey when we come back. We're talking our new book that's out right now. Real life, Real Love. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy and J. Angela Yee Charlamagne Tha guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest still in the building, my wife, Gia Casey. We're talking about our new book, Real Life. Real Life lessons on joy, pain, and the magic that holds us together. You could pick it up today, or you can get it on audible, on Kindle or wherever you get your books. Ye. How was it for both of you writing this book together? Some of it was fun. It was nice to be creative and get your thoughts down on paper. It was work, but. But a lot of it was difficult. I'm a very open person. Rashawn, I think, had a difficult time because he had to relive a lot of the negative things that transpired in our relationship. And he can tend to be surface in some respects where you ask him a question, he gives you an answer. I'm a lot more of an in depth person. You know, I think critically about things. And when we would go over these chapters that he's assigned to write, I would ask him questions like, okay, you can't just answer it with a yes or a no or a simple blanket. Like, one question would mean 10 more questions to really get to the meat. And, you know, I had to keep reiterating we're writing this book so that people have something tangible, a reference point for them to make changes in their lives if necessary, or to recognize that the person that you're with needs to make changes in their lives. And it was a journey. It was a journey, but I think it was difficult. Yeah, no, for me, it was difficult. I had to relive a lot of the fboy ish I put you through, and you don't. You forget about a lot of it because you don't have to relive it. But then when you start. No, you forget about it. I ain't forget nothing. I think as men, that's the point, though, right? Because it's like we don't realize how much we do hurt our women when we do. That's true, though. Yeah, I think so. I don't think we realize how deep that. That sounds like an okie doke to me. No, I don't think we. Until you actually sit down and have those. Those, you know, uncomfortable conversations, you don't realize how much you. If your wife cheated on you and told you that she would have no idea how much that it stood to hurt you, would that make sense to you? Probably not. But, I mean, men don't make sense. You believe that you're. You believe that you're born inherently with, like, a deficit. Not a deficit, but I just don't think. Common sense. I don't think we. I don't think we're thinking about it. You know what I mean? Like, we. Like, that's the sad part. It's selfish. And that's what keeps. That's what keeps you from doing it in the future. You know what I mean? Because you do not want to hurt the woman that you love. And it's so crazy because I saw that with my pops. Like, I saw the pain that. That caused my mom with his infidelity. So when in my mind I was like, damn, I'm about to make the same mistake. So I think it is difficult when you got to relive it because you don't want to talk about it because you don't want to trigger you. You know, Some people feel. I don't get triggered, though. Damn. What? What? No, that scared me just now. No. Once I got to a point and it was a process. Once I got to a point where I accepted that it was my job to move on because I decided to forgive him and because. Because he had done all of the work and then Some to regain my trust, to earn grace from me. I got to a point where I no longer wanted to punish. And I didn't have that inherent need to see him suffer. Because when you hurt, and you say it all the time, hurt people, hurt people. When you're hurt, you want not just people, you want the person that hurt you to hurt. And anytime that I felt any type of way, I made sure that he felt some type of way. So once I learned how to forgive, and that was a process because I wasn't necessarily a forgiving person before, everything was very black and white to me, not very much gray. But once I learned and I understood that that's what was expected from me, of God, I had to commit to that and do my best to live up to what forgiveness meant. And that's what set me free. Because when you forgive, you don't forgive to ease the burden from the other person. You forgive to ease the burden from you. That's real. What was the work you guys did together like? You had to work on forgiveness and when you said, okay, I'm going to, you know, have to move on from this, but what was the work that he did that let you know, okay, he's serious and, you know, I can finally just say, I'm not getting triggered anymore. I'm gonna let this go. One of the first things was I realized that he understood the impact of what had happened, what he did. He understood it. He didn't just accept it and was accountable for it, but he actually understood. He would do things that a lot of men wouldn't do. He would sit there through those eight hour conversations, locked in a room. He answered every question that I had, and I had a lot of questions, and he answered them all truthfully. And you know, when you ask somebody a question and you can tell by their answer because I mean, the answers weren't pretty, they weren't things that I would have wanted to hear. He went through all of the sufferation, as I call it, and he did it until. Because a lot of guys, when they mess up and I mean a lot of them have told me I have friends and that have gone through it. It's like, listen, I did it. I apologize. I said I was never gonna do it again. I mean, that ish, right? But it's like every day I'm being punished, I'm being punished, I'm being reminded. It's like, let it go. I apologize. Like, what more do you want from me, blood? He never took that approach with me. It was the Until. Until you are good. Until you are healed. If I have to be a punching bag, I will be that. If I have to be a doormat, I will be that. I will do anything that it makes to survive this because I cannot be without you. And he proved it. Every single day. It was as though. And he was like this before, but it was even more so during this time. It was as though he communicated to me that the only thing that he wanted was to make me happy. And that's pretty much how he lives his life. He lives his life every day waking up thinking like, damn, how can I make Gia's life easier today? How can I make Ghia happier today? But to answer your question, it was the. Until, it was the indefinite, and it was the willingness to do any and everything to earn what he lost back. And was there ever a question in your mind? I know there was a point when you thought, but no matter what I do, she's never gonna take me back. Was there ever a time when you were like, if you cry, I'm gonna come over there and hug you. I'm just letting you know, you better hold them tears. I'm gonna hug the out of you from the back if you cry in front of your wife. But yes. Answer your question. Yes. Catch that little feel. At that point, I just had, you know, I didn't know what was gonna happen, but I was like, I have to be honest to at least get my friend back, you know? And at that point, I. You know, I didn't know what Gia was gonna do. I thought it was a rap, but I was like, I still wanted my friend. I still wanted somebo I can talk to, you know, I still wanted a relationship with her that we can bounce like this. She's all I knew since I was 16, so I still wanted my friend back. And she's Jamaican. That could have been forever, beef. That could have been forever, beef. But, you know, it's interesting that you didn't kick him out of the house. You were still polite to him. You still wanted to maintain a co parenting friendship. I feel like that hurts more when you're like, we're not having sex and I might end up with somebody else one day, but, you know, we're cool. That hurts more. The holidays are about spending time with your loved ones and creating magical memories that will last a lifetime. 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So it didn't matter how much I loved Rashawn and how much I would have missed him. And it didn't matter if I cried every night. It did not matter one iota how I felt. The only thing that was important to me was that I operated with my head and not my heart and that I did what I always said that I was going to do. So when I found out, when it was confirmed for me, and you can read the book and see the entire. No, we want you to go get the book. The entire story. But when he confirmed it, we were in a parking lot. And when I drove away from that parking lot, it was a few days before Christmas, and his mother was at the house helping me decorate because we were hosting that year. But I walked into the house and I told her, I said, christmas is canceled. And she said, what do you mean Christmas is canceled? And I said, well, I just found out that Rashawn cheated on me and we're getting a divorce, so there's not gonna be any Christmas this year. At least I'm not hosting. Yo, it's wild that people actually cancel Christmas. I thought that was just a figure of speech. No, no. If this happened, we canceling Christmas. You cancel Christmas? Yeah, well, in. In the sense of us hosting. I wasn't gonna cancel it for our children, but, you know, we didn't have to decorate for 30 people to come over. And my lovely Mother in law. Hi, mama. She defended her beautiful son with everything that she could because. And bitch is lying, pretty much. And when she said something to that effect, I said, but for the fact that he just told me that it was true. And he came home maybe 20 or 30 minutes later, and it was a whole thing, right? But I was adamant that we were getting a divorce. I contacted an attorney, paid an attorney. It was decided. But thankfully, there were a whole host of things that happened that. That convinced me that God had other plans. All right, well, don't move. We got more with Guy and Casey. We're talking our new book, Real Life, Real Love. Love. Let's get into a Mary J. Blige joint. Here's Real Love. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne, the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest still in the building, my wife Gia. Casey. We're talking about our new book, Real Life, Real Love. Life lessons on joy, pain, and the magic that holds us together. You could pick it up today, or you can get it on audible, on Kindle, or wherever you get your books. Yeah. Envy, let me ask you, because, you know, for women, we always are like. And like you said, Tyrese was having a conversation how a man can't cheat on you, but still love. Yeah, but why? Like, you know, that's something that for women, we always want to know. And I'm sure you had so many conversations. I still don't like his answer. I don't necessarily agree with what Tyrese said. I really feel that until you know the definition of what love really means, I think a lot of times people just say, I love you, and always it's, oh, I love you. But until you understand the definition of what love means, then you realize I don't. If I love somebody, like I said, you don't want to hurt them. You don't want to cheat on them. You don't want to disrespect them. You don't want to have them looking crazy because you love that person. And I don't think I knew the definition of love, but when I figured that definition of what love is and what Gia meant to me, you know, you realize, I don't want to hurt her. I don't want to see her cry. I don't want to see her feel away. I don't want to disrespect her. I don't want to be controlling. I don't want to be any of those things. And when you realize what that definition is, you, your outlook of life changes. I agree with envy and I'll add on because I've explored this in therapy. When you say you can cheat and still love a person, you might, but you don't really love yourself. Yeah, I think a lot of times, not a lot of time, all the time. Men cheat for ego. Oh yeah, like that's it. It's wounded ego. It's something that we're lacking. It has nothing to do with our wives, nothing to do with our girlfriends. It's something that we feel like we're lacking for whatever reason. And that's what we, we go and do. It's literally just to feed our ego. Nothing more, nothing less. You think women cheat for the same reason as men or you think think it's different? Like when women cheat, you think they cheat for different reasons? I think women also cheat for ego. Who doesn't like to have the attention of the opposite sex? You know, especially when you are at a deficit and you do have holes and you need those holes filled. And most people have slight holes, you know, not that you're out there thirsty for the attention of the opposite sex, but. But even if it's of the same sex, when someone pays you a compliment, like it's nice to be wanted is essentially what I'm saying. So for women, yeah, I mean, I think that if you're with someone and you cheat, I think a big part of it is ego. But then, you know, you'll have people that say that they cheat because the person at home isn't doing what they're supposed to do, you know, and we have a son, Logan, he's 18, so he's starting to date seriously and whatnot now. And I had a conversation with him the other day and I said, listen, if you commit to a girl and you make her your girlfriend, one thing I do not want you to do is cheat. Do not come to me and tell me that you guys broke up because you cheated on her. Because I've raised you better than that. If you decide that you want something else or she's not satisfying whatever needs you have, break up with her and move on to the next. And if within a week you feel the same way about that girl, break up with her and move on to the next. Do not cheat because you're sacrificing your own integrity when you do that. And that's pretty much a sign of really not loving yourself. When you love yourself, you want to be self actualized, you want to Be your best self. You want to reach your highest potential. You want to be a kind, a good person. And you owe that to yourself. You don't necessarily owe it to the other person. You owe it to yourself to do those things. And that's what I'm trying to instill in him as my oldest male child. You know, one of the biggest things I think that came out of this was all the work that he did do on himself and he, he was suicidal at a point. That's, that's, that's. We know that, right? Yes. I don't think that was all because of what was going on with you. I think it was, like I said, it was other things that he was dealing with inside of him that probably got him to that point. Yes. We would have to ask him because we've never had a conversation of it being about anything besides the threat of losing our relationship. I would say this, I would say, you know, I used to look at people who committed suicide as soft and sucker. Like that's because that's what society made you think. Until I got into that predicament where I felt like my life, well, everybody's life around me would be better if I wasn't here. And I couldn't shake it. And majority of it was losing my wife, losing my family, losing the thing that I knew and that I loved, love. And I really feel like I didn't want to be there. And, and I guess it was everything else that we said, like the insecurities that made me do it, the insecurities around me, and I just didn't know who I was as a person. Oh, that's powerful. That's the biggest part. But I will say during all of that, in all those conversations and all those late night talks and with praying, you feel like you realize who you are as a person. And once you figure that out, you figure out who you want to be, be who you wanna, who you wanna live like, and you don't care about anything else. You know, at one time I used to care what people thought. Now I don't care. As long as my wife and my family's happy. Everything else is just white noise behind it. Just think about how much stronger you guys are as individuals and your marriage is so much stronger after everything you've been through. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. If he said something powerful too. Because this business, this business will have you living a lie. Because we're characters, right? So we create these characters that kind of protect the Rashawn and protect the Lenard. And we're going. We go home and we one way, but then we out in the street being another way. But you can't do both. Eventually that negative is gonna catch up. Yeah. So that's. That's why I think he was going through, like, not only just the threat of losing you, but just like, who am I? Was that hard for you, having this dual personality? Almost absolutely. Because, I mean, like, nothing's better now than to not care what people think. You know, I would have to think freedom. Freedom. I would have to think about what I was saying on the radio and how it affect me, how people would look at me. I would have to think about this or think about that instead of just being free and say, hey, it is what it is. Take it how you like it. If you like me, you like me. If you love me, you love me. If you hate me, you hate me. And once I got to that, that place, life became a whole lot better. See a lot of gems in this book, you guys. I was thoroughly entertaining. Like I said, you look stressed. I feel like he's been nervous all morning. Before you got here. I was not. It's a triggering conversation. The book is out today. Go get it, man. Make sure you pick it up. Real live life. Real love. Get it today. Life lessons on joy, pain, and the magic that holds us together. That's right, Amazon, Barnes and Nobles. Wherever you buy books, your local bookstores, please pick it up today. And when you do, read it or you read it, please. What we want you to do is we want you to tell us what you think about the book. Whether it's a 30 second video tag here and I. We want to repost it. Whether you love it, whether you hate it. We're going to repost all of them because we'd love to get you guys feedback. And I think that y'all gonna help a lot of couples. And it's clear that y'all too are meant to be with each other. You know what I'm saying? One of my favorite chapters is called the New Deal, and it's pretty much about reparations that the offender has to make after offending their partner. And it's those things that will help to let. To signal to your partner that you just may be worthy of forgiveness and being extended grace. So what are those reparations? The first thing people gonna say is that, oh, that's why he dug the 12 days of Christmas. You know, that's right. A lot of people do say that before. But you know what's funny? And that's the funny thing. We've always done 12 Days of Christmas. We just never made it public. And it's not the type of thing that at first I ever wanted to make public because it is grand. But I decided to start posting it because it's not about the material items that he gives me for Christmas. It's about the intention behind it. It's about the thought. You know, he starts shopping almost a year in advance for that. And every gift comes with something special. A little note, a little treasure hunt to find the gift. A prayer, a poem, something that is giving of his heart, not giving of his pocket. And that's why when you, you know, you read the book and you hear y'all talk, that's why you understand why he got so upset at Desis Romero. Correct. You know what I'm saying? Cause y'all relationship is so much deeper than that. Of course, you know, because with their comment it almost to me suggests as though there's nothing else worthy about him. That's right. That would signal me to stay aside from what he has to offer financially. And it's a joke, Right? But we all know that all jokes are rooted in some truth. And that's what I think their truth was. Looking at it from an outsider, I wasn't some Jackie come lately and met somebody with money and was like, ooh, come up. We ground it out. From day one, I was always there and supporting him and loving him. And if he failed and wound up being a secretary or anything, followed another path, death. I would still be there. Yeah. I think you've been a proctologist. It took a beat to get that. What are you talking. I'm just suggesting other career options that you could have taken. I can't believe he's flirting with me with my wife here. Like you're disrespectful. Real life. Real life. Thank you for having me, guys. That's right. Pick it up today and huh. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. No, you got to tell this guest I love you before you sign off. Yes. Dear Casey, thank you for joining us. I love you. I love you too. I love you way more than charlamagne. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. That's pretty funny. Charlamagne. The devil. It's possible. The Breakfast Club. Well, donkey today goes to a 38 year old woman named Briyaka Brian Benjamin. Okay. I'm also at that age where I simply don't understand what certain people be on. So I treat it like I'm At a safari, right? Well, I'm on a safari. I'm just riding in my jeep, cruising through the jungle, keep all my limbs in the car, watching the action, okay? And one thing I like to watch is when people got beef with others and they say when I see my app, it's on site. Now, a lot of folks be lying, okay? A lot of folks be telling the truth though. See, on site means that no matter where you at church, the doctor's office with your grandmother, a funeral for your aunt. No, I said it's on site. And on site means no matter the site, it's on. Now just because I like to watch something doesn't mean I agree with it. I was born in 1978. Your uncle Charlotte got rules. And one of those rules is that kids should always be protected. You don't do nothing around kids. You put the kids in harm's way and you shouldn't put the kids in harm's way in any way, shape or form, okay? You hear those tragedies, tragic stories of people getting shot and killed while they with their kids. People get shot and kid shot and killed while holding their, their babies in their arm. That's disgusting to me, okay? You see someone with their child, you say, you know what, I'll catch them later. Which also really don't make no sense. Especially if your dumb ass plans to kill a person because you care about kids enough not to want to harm the adult when they around the child, but you are still willing to take the adult off the earth and leave the child without a parent. Parent, dumb stupid ass logic that makes no sense. But if people made sense, then I wouldn't be able to do donkey today. Every day for the last 14 years now, Brianca Benjamin, 38 years old, walked into the holy grounds of Walmart, okay? The cultural institution that is Wally's World. And she saw one of her ops. Oh, she saw one of her ops and she must have vowed that it was on site with this person because Brianca had her six month old baby with her. I repeat, Bianca had her six month old baby with her when she saw her op and this happened. Let's go to News 15 for the report please. A shocking story out of Eunice. Mothers behind bars were simple battery and cruelty to juveniles. Priorities. You'll see. Eunice. Police were called to Walmart in response to a fight near the front doors. Surveillance footage shows Brianca Benjamin, who is 38 years old, holding her six month old infant during an argument before allegedly throwing her baby in a trash can. We'll repeat that. She allegedly threw her baby in the trash can before she got into a fight. As of this morning, police say the infant's safe and has been entrusted to other family members. You couldn't pass the baby to nobody. You couldn't leave the baby in the stroller. The trash can is the best place you could find to put your baby because you wanted to fight. Brianka Benjamin saw her op, she had her six month old baby with her and threw the baby in the trash. The trash can to go square up. I don't know if her OP was the baby or the woman she was fighting in the store, okay? You couldn't even put the baby in the recycle bin. Just. Just throw the baby in the trash. I've heard some wild reasons why folks threw babies in the trash. Brenda threw her baby in the trash. But Brenda barely had a brain. The girl could hardly spell her name. Plus, she was young and didn't want the baby. Lucious. Lying through Jamal in the trash for being gay. But Jamal wasn't a baby, okay? He was big and gay, all right? There's no reason reason to put your child in a trash can. Unless you dressing them up as Oscar the Grouch for Halloween. This is why I be telling folks to go to therapy. This is why I'm such a mental health advocate. Because we have to get our minds right. There is no part of the human brain that should say this, that should say to you, I see my op, I'm gonna throw my baby in the trash so I can go fight. That baby in your arm should be all the reason you need to avoid the trouble. But what you did with that baby in that moment, Brianca, is a reflection of you. It is exactly how you see yourself. You had no problem throwing your baby in the trash because you see yourself and your life is trash. You don't love yourself. And if you don't love yourself, it's impossible to love anyone or anything else, I guess, including your child. Please give Breonka Benjamin the biggest Hee haw. No, no, no. That's crazy. No. I see the stupid look in your eye. No. Jess, you want to play a game? No. I want to play a game. No. Did she get a fight? Her name is Bianca Benjamin. Okay, Bianca, that sound like you should be on Street Fighter. Okay, you know, we not playing the game. This. You went down and you know daughter named Priyanka. Trump got a daughter named Priyanka. Yeah. Huh? Priyanka. Priyanka, man. Ivanka. Ivanka. Her name's Ivanka. He cut it. Somebody. It's some in here. Pra prianca. Sound like a baby Trump would have with a black mistress. But did she. Did she win the fight? I don't know if she won or not. That's not. You're missing. Don't matter if she won. She threw the baby in the trash. You think she got ass? I think she was trying to kill two birds and one stone. She didn't want the be and she wanted to fight the girl. Godamn. And what if somebody would have came up and emptied the trash? Right? Exactly. What if she doing. They was doing a job. Exactly. What if she got her dumb ass knocked out and then somebody threw the trash out? Then what? Come on, man. But race was she. I'm not playing with you. Leave me alone. What race you think she is, Jess? Black? I don't know. I don't. I haven't seen the picture. I ain't seen the pictures. I don't know what she looked like. Okay, you want me to Google, I'll Google. All right. Type it up. You know, you be up over there typing and looking up everything else. I'm a Google her right now. Let me see. That name sound white to me, Brian. Damn. Oh, Envy. God damn. What is she? God damn. She white. Is. I just. I just. I'll just do this right? I'm gonna just. I'mma just tell y'all. She got a mouth full of gold teeth. I mean. I mean bullets. I mean loaded. She got all the slugs from Florida. It doesn't matter. Exactly. Okay. God damn. Lord have mercy on our soul. Okay. Jesus Christ. All right, man. Well, thank you for that. Don't she not. And then don't. Is she not black? All right, she's not black. She white. You know what she is. I'm not saying that word. No, I vowed to not say that word. You vowed a couple times and you still said it after. Can't say. All right. I'm not. People need to know. Let Uncle Ruckus it powerful at work. That's right. Okay. All right. I hate y'all. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Cuz Today is national co parenting day. So we had to bring in a man who I feel like him and Jess have one of the best co parenting relationships I've ever seen. That's right. Rome is here. Rome is here. I got a chuckle already. Rome. Cause you. Why? What happened? Just say I want to know who gave Rome some liquor this morning. And I was like, I ain't give it to him. I just told him where the bar was. And I said, help yourself. Help yourself. Yeah, that's fine. And you said it was apple juice. And so I was about to take a sip and I was like, uh, no, it was not. You already knew it wasn't apple juice. I just saying. Thank you. Pick the cup up. Okay. You. You and Jess have the best co parenting situation I've ever witnessed. How did y'all get to this point, bro? And she thinks she my mother first and foremost, but it took time. I felt like when you take the feelings out of it and you. You realize that the child is the most important part of the relationship because it's still a ratio whether you're intimate or not. You can do magical things. Magical things. And I think that me being a dad, that I was and that I am still today, I wanted that. I felt like if we wasn't gonna be together, there was no need for us to beef. We've created over time. Whereas now she's my best friend, she's my safe space. I feel like, you know, I can vent to her because sometimes, all the time, I need it. But I feel like when I was pouring into these other women, they would use it against me. Whereas, though, now, now that she's pregnant, I don't really call her and say certain things because I know she's going through certain things mentally now. So Jess is always in my safe space, though. So it's like she's always been the person that I go to, I call, give me advice, some advice I don't take, but just to hear. But just to hear her give it to me, just to know that she care. Because, like, man, I don't really have nobody. How did y'all meet? How did you meet Jess? And how did y'all start dating back then? Like, where did you see it? When was like, oh, this is. This is somebody I wanna holler at. It's crazy because we grew up starting to smile. Yeah, he's starting to smile. He gonna die. Nah, this. Cause my mom. When my mom was alive. My mom died when I was 10. When my mom was alive, we went to the same church. My mom died. My father, like, really took me away from everybody. So now it's like, fast forward. I'm like 17. It's Facebook. And she came across my timeline and I was like, okay, so I did a dot, dot, dot, and I put a basketball emoji oh, you thought she was a WNBA player? No, no. Shut up, man. Little junior varsity. Nah, nah. He played with you. Nah. She bitch on it too. Okay. I think I was like, I'm just coming to get my ball. Coming to get was mine. Something like that. What the is this? And you why the basketball room? I need to know. I've seen it somewhere. What? Loving basketball? No, I seen somebody do that. Like, I don't know where I seen them. You got understand basketball in the messages. This is 11 years. Okay, 12. 12 years ago. So I'm like, I. I don't know. I. I did it because I thought it was. It was corny, but I thought it was, you know. But it worked. It got our attention. What do you think? Just when you saw the basketball. Basketball? I just. I said, what the is this? Okay. I just typed that back. And he was like. He said it was my ball. It's my ball, and I'm coming to get. I'm coming to get it or something. Like, I'm coming to get was mine. And I was like, oh, okay, what's up? I already knew what that was. Given what it was, it was up. But it worked, though. It worked. It worked. So y'all started talking. Where was your first date? What was your first. When you started first talking, what was your. Honest, man, Jessica did a lot. I'm gonna say this. This. Before a lot of these young guys became Jody, I was Jody. And our first date, big date. I'm going say it was Six Flags. Okay. Okay. All right. Not doing it big. But before that, we did a lot of other things. But after that, it was. We did a lot. Like, she introduced me to a lot, actually. We both was the same age, but she help make me become. Got me into becoming a man. Becoming a man. And then. Yeah, then boom. Now, Jess always says that you are. You were overprotective. Made sure she was good. But then she always said, you can't fight. Oh, my God. No, she never seen me fight. Oh, I never had to wre. We fought. I got that from. She did say that. Of course. I'm not gonna fight her, bro. Oh, it's crazy, cuz. I just got a picture from the window. You bust a mine? You busted your windows out your car, man? No, one window. With our fists. What? What happened? Oh, you can't beat her then. If she could break a window from a fist, I wouldn't try to fight that. What happened wrong? Rome had to take a sip. Thinking about that. That's triggering him. What happened? What happened? All right, my step like, Jessica, pull up. Mind you, we ain't together. Jessica pulls up. I had a girl in the house. So my. My brother, like, come to the top of the steps. Like, just at the door, I'm like, all right, here I come. The nigga don't even wait for me to come. He let her in. He let her in. Oh, boy. Mind you, I walked right past him and his friends with the girl. Jess could get in, come down the steps, but what did I see when I walked down the steps? Jerome, you didn't see. So initially tries to forsage this story at Ashton. I had a portable rocking bassinet where I could put it in the trunk, send it to her, bring it back. Ashton was in a portable rocking joint. Me and the girl was on. On the bed. I had on basketball shorts. She had on her uniform pants. No, she gonna sit. She's been saying uniform pants. She's correctional officer. Okay? So, like, she's sitting. She facing me, but her legs is like. You know how that go. Justin come downstairs. She keeps. She gonna say, oh, we was naked. We was not naked. It had been happening. I don't get naked. And was she topless? That. Oh, my gosh. See, she's never going to tell the truth anyway. She banging the girl. You beat up the girl? No, she didn't beat up. She banged, like, popped. And I picked her up and walked up the stairs and threw her outside. Drum. You could never lift me. No. You never. No. Y'all see what I'm saying? She never wants to. She never wants to admit the truth. So hold on. Theo couldn't fight. No, I ain't. I don't know if she could fight or not, but she one time. And then she got up, and then she put on her uniform and went and left. Went upstairs. The truth is not. I promise you. I Wish it was iPhones and started fighting. That. That. No, my son was not in no portable nothing. He was on the floor on a blanket, and the cat was looking at him like he wanted to eat him. Yes, it was. My basement has cement under the carpet, so I would never lay my. I wouldn't even lay on the floor. Y'all been arguing about this for 11 years. She was drunk out of her mind, and I'm trying to figure out how to home. I was just getting off of work. I had a job. You didn't. I had a goddamn lie. You did not just get off work. You was fired at that time, so please. No, I got fired right after that. I was working at McDonald's. That's when I was stealing out the writers. This is good. And then if I was drinking, okay, I was drinking on the job, but I was at work, so. And then I came to get my son. And you did not come get your son because it was my weekend. Well, so what? I was till Monday from daycare. Why would you come and no, you come to be nosy. I didn't have to come to me on daycare. Had a passenger with her. If you coming. She. I went out there because she told go home. 11 years. You still like 11 years old, man, that's my job. How did you break the window? With her hand. So you walked out, seen his car? No, she. I threw her ass out. You shut that door, Jerome. You're not that. You was not that strong like. You did not throw me nowhere. You and it was steps. You Jazzy Jeff? Yeah. That right there, he could never ever even right now could not do that to. Why you hit the window, though. Why you hit the car? I was just really, really. Cuz he wouldn't give me my son. Wouldn't give me my son. You called the police on me going. Try to say call the police. I didn't call the police. I don't know how to jail. Pause, pause, listen, hold on. I need everybody hear this. Where I'm from, the jail is right. Right around the corner. You gonna walk? It's two minutes. They heard the commotion, they walked to us. I don't know how they came. 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How did I try to get you locked up when I'm the same one called trying to bail you out with no money. I don't know why you ever thought you could bail somebody out with no money. I ain't sleep that night. You trying to get out. You put her on jail, mister. Check this out. You ever been. You ever went through a woman phone? Of course. Could you eat after that? Yes, you could. Well, I couldn't. I'm comparing that to when she went to jail. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, you know, and you sick. I get. I was sick. I didn't. I didn't want. I didn't want her in jail. Why the. I call the police. Yeah. All right, we got more with Rome. If you don't know who Rome is, of course, that's Jess. Hilarious baby daddy. And today is National Co Parenting Day, and we're having a conversation with Rome. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne. The. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Rome. That is Jess's baby daddy. Today is National Co Parenting Day and they are excellent co parenters. And we're having a great conversation. Charlemagne. So now when you hear this story and you say to yourself, why are they there on National Co Parent Day? Because they are like the best of friends now. They call each other. Jess calls you her brother. How do you feel about that? How did y'all get there? Do you look at her like your sister? You said mother. Mama. I was gonna say what you said. You created that. Yeah, like my mother. Like, when we out of town, like my mother. Now, I ain't gonna disclose too much, but she thinks she my mother. No, I just know she likes to control, like, she know how I am, though. Like me, I'm a loner. I think part of that controlling part is like, she cares. And sometimes, especially when I'm under the influence, I've done dumbass. So as good as you know that you can admit that I've done dumbass. I don't know, just assist in the back. Everybody, like, you know, everybody know I hold myself accountable to that, mind you. Now, I ain't gonna say I learned from one mistake. Cause I done did A dumbass over and over again. But I think in that aspect, that's when the mother. The mother with the V come in. But the bro, her calling me brother and sister. Like, honestly, without the child. It's there. It's seen, like, cameras on, cameras off. Like, you can't fake this or make this up. Oh, yeah. Rome started that. Rome started calling me sis first, and then I started calling him bro. I, you know, know. I'm like, yeah, we do have, like, a sibling dynamic in some way. You know, he still confides in my mom. He like, my mom is our mother. Like, it's not. It ain't nothing crazy. It's nothing intimate. Like, seriously, I always say this. People be like, yeah, right. I can literally walk past this. And it. I don't do this, but I'm saying I can walk past this man naked, and he does. They'd be like, girl, what? Like that. I'm talking about seriously. Like, how do you all deal with each other's spouses or each other's boyfriend and girlfriend? Like, how do you deal with his girl? And how do you deal with. Now? Wrong. She told us you had 17 baby mamas. Five. Okay. I never told you he had. No. I thought you said, like, everybody always try. It's cool, though. It's cool. But this was this. And now this was the friction part. Now we got over that. But this. The friction part was, I'm out of my business. I'm getting her. But the friction part was her getting into mine. But she's still a woman. I'm still a man. Yeah. So women tend to do that. And this is not. No shame to women. I don't mean no disrespect by saying it, but I think women tend to do that. Especially a woman that care about you. What was she saying? Sometimes you make bad decisions, and she's there as your sister to make sure you good. Correct. Regardless if it's life, relationship, or whatever. Correct. She said that on there. With me personally, I never really, like, I talk to her about certain things, but I never really like my family to get into no intimate situation. Yeah. Because guess what? Y'all can feel a way about this person however y'all want, whether it's negative or good. If I'm gonna deal with this person, I'm gonna deal with them. Like, the female can smack out me yesterday, I might get over it, and tomorrow. But it's like, that's why I always. That's how I was always able to distinguish the two. Like, when Jessica with Her man, when she come to me, like, I don't know, right? Like, I ain't never pillow talking or sneak dissing or nothing. Like, I don't really care for. Like it ain't enough of that. I don't, if you put it in that sense. But when she come to me with a man, I tell her, ain't right. But both of y'all gotta care, though. Cause you gonna want to know who around your son. She gonna want to know her son. I never did, though. Yeah, I never. So in the beginning stage, yeah, don't have this. My son, my brother. Right, right, right. I grew out of that. So now it's. I trust my child mom enough to. She won't bring no around my child. So I don't say, oh, don't have this around my. That's never been a problem. What has been a problem? Problem was envy me. Except for my last dog. Yeah, my dog. Who's the dog? My dog, Chris. Chris. Okay. Chris, my dog. That's my dog. I ain't gonna hold you. I think he's the. I think, like, me. Honestly, me and Jess, man. Like, I think it's been times where a woman didn't like me and her situation. But guess what? Bye. Yeah, more so on. And yeah, it'll be more so on his end because it's much more of them. But the thing is. Yeah, the thing is, like, I don't like when. Because I even tell him when he doing wrong, too. Like, yo, don't treat her like that. This is not how you going introduce me to her now. I got to know her, and whether she had a kid or not, most of the time is the ones that have the kids. But it's like, yo, you gotta do right or just be single. Like, don't keep. Keep hurting women in the process of trying to find what you're looking for. I mean, I know that's all a part of dating, but when you have kids, it's different, you know? And then he'd be like, ah, that's why I don't like you to be getting into it, you know? And then I don't like he. He attracts a lot of toxic women, too. Like, abusive relationships where women will put their hands on. I'm like, what? Yeah, all right. You know? But he own. He's like, nah, but I might be with it. Or my. What? She just blacked your eye? What are you talking about? You know what I'm saying? Like, no, we not doing it. But, Claire, I never had a black eye, okay? Well, she bust your nose, whatever women have put their hands on you and you be all right with it. And that's why. And that's why she's my dog. Like, I think she's the only one, really, honestly, the one that get the. Under my skin. Like a certain word place she used. And I don't care what tone she use it in, but to say that, it's like RA was really never taught how to love. When I moved my dad. I didn't move my dad and my stepmom, which is my mom. Now. Me and my mom have a great relationship. That's my stepmom. And my dad was married, but my dad was cheating. Like, same like my dad, bro. My dad showing me that bro. Like, I'm thinking, cool. So, like, when. Even when I started dealing with women and stuff like that, multiple women and all that, my dad was like, yeah, son, uh, absolutely. And I'm thinking it's cool. Cause that's what you're being taught. That's what I'm seeing. That's what I'm being taught. Like. And every man in my life that I looked at as a role model, to me was the same way. Same. So it's like what you expect. But the good thing is now it's like, I'm old enough now, and mind you, I ain't perfect. Now I'm seeing it, I'm trying to, you know, change it. But I never was taught to love properly, so. And I never. My trust issues is up from my. That. Because I'm saying what he's doing, but I'm saying when it's done to him, his reactions like, damn, you was just doing this. How you gonna get mad? Right? So it's like every relationship I've went into, I had an expiration date me. I put an X ray on myself. I said, she gonna get what she gonna get. I'm get what I'm getting. I'm gone. So I never really gave a woman the. The commitment, not even commitment, but I never gave the woman a chance to really love me. But even with. With the kids, like, even having kids with other ones, no, I had. And this is like, I said no disrespect to my children moms. A lot of my. My children came out of vulnerability. Explain final on that. And I'm explaining that so I will meet a woman who I may feel like she is what I need, another safe place or whatever the case may be, but I'm already vulnerable from a previous relationship. Have a child knowing I don't want to be with this woman, but I feel like I'm forced to be with it because. Because it's a child. And I've done that, you know, multiple times. Multiple times. You needed a therapist, not another baby mama, Correct? Yeah, but at the time of need, at the time. And vulnerability, you know, women. You know, women can. Girl, they be masked up. But, like, I never really knew how to be alone. Like, I feel like I gotta have somebody laying next to me because even before my mom died, my mom be sleeping naked. This is a back then thing. How old were you when your mother passed? Yeah, I was 10, but I was a mommy's boy. Did you ever. Did you ever really properly grieve? So grieving? No, I never really grieved. All I did was I thought it was gonna help me by going to school for social work, because that's what she was. But I never really properly grieved. And that's a. That's a process. Now I do want to get, you know, back in the gym. I do want to get a therapist, but I want everything else around me to be intact so. So that I could fully commit. Because if I ain't fully committed, it ain't gonna work. All right, we got more with Rome. If you don't know who Rome is, of course, that's Jess, Hilarious's baby daddy. And today is National Co Parenting Day, and we're having a conversation with Rome. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess Hilarious, Charlemagne, the guy we order Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Rome. That is Jess's baby daddy. Today is National Co Parenting Day, and they are excellent co parenting. And we're having a great conversation. Charlemagne. How did y'all. That's the most thing. The most. I won't say most important, but one of the most important things. How did y'all realize we don't have feelings for each other no more? Like, how did that just go away? Like, y'all have. Y'all love each other, but not in that way. I got my answer. You want to go first? You can go first with yours. Because I'm still thinking when I stopped caring about who she dealt with, when I wouldn't even. Like, I wouldn't even care. Like, how long did that take? Oh, three years. Or like, when Ashton was like three. Yeah. He was still really young. Yeah, it was like three years, but at that. But honestly, that three years. Like, I caught a big check. So it was like, you know, I was almost half a million dollars, so it was like the pain that I had, whatever the case may be, I would. I would pay. I would like, just buy the block it out. But other than that, like, you ain't try to stun on her a little bit, though? No, I never. No, I'm waiting for that. I never intentionally stunted on her. I never did that. Never. Okay. I did everything she possibly could ask me to do. And she said on a. A one of these shows, something about a BGE bill. And I'mma address that I never wanted to. That was on our show. That was on co parents. I'm address that now with the. I'm explaining her lights got cut off. A $500,000 check. And you listen. No, not. It wasn't right then and there. Okay. But it's over time because, like, mind you, a lot of my place. She helped me. She helped me get a lot on the back end. But in a time, like, I helped her. Whatever the case. I didn't know she was moving with a man. I didn't move with a man. Well, she moved the man in with her. Yeah. After. So he had you in the dog, too. No business. So I don't know that he not there. So boom, here's his. So here's. Here's my logic. And I'mma say what I'm gonna say to her after I explain it. My logic was, all right, man is in the house. Boom. BG cut off. So she like, well, wrong. I'm like, well, I take my son with me. But that wasn't me talking. That was the girlfriend I had talking. Oh, you ain't tell me that. I never told you that. Because as a woman, you ain't trying to hear that. And as one, as a man, man, and you being me, I don't want to hear that. So I didn't want to tell you that because I'd have felt less of a man. Unball your fist chest. So, yeah, but not enough. I understand them. If somebody else is smacking the cheeks, you pay. So the girlfriend was like, living in that house. So the girlfriend was like, don't talk about no house. So listen now. Go ahead. So the girlfriend was like, I took a certain amount of money out the bank. I did. She was with me. She like, why you. You giving it to Jessica? I'm like, cause she needed. And she like, I never said. I never said the reason. I never said the reason. Yeah, yeah. I never said the reason, though. She was like, what exactly does she need. Because I know you ain't giving her no. She don't need a bag or nothing like that. I'm like, no, it's something else. She like, well, don't. She got a living with her? And mind you, I'm drinking at the time. You thinking the same thing. I'm like, you wasn't even thinking that till she said it. I wasn't thinking it, but I'm drinking, and I'm like, you know what? You right. Why you ain't asked Jess, though. Crazy. Why you need to pick up the phone and say, jess, what's up with you? Cause I was a young emotional boy who had just ran into a bunch of money and a bunch of. With that. No, I'm hurt. My hurt young man got a lot of money. Everybody done me over. I got some money. I'm doing the. I want to make myself happy. And that's how I went broke. Everybody except me, except her. You feel me? So that's how I was like. And. And granted, right now on today, I'm gonna say I truly, sincerely apologize for not taking care of you the way I should have. And I'm gonna take my glasses off because for a long time, that hurt me. And it's like, I never, ever, ever, especially you. I never, ever, ever, ever meant to do that to you. And it's like now. That's why I even. I work so hard today and just try to even. Just give you something. But in due time, that come back, I ain't. You know, I done made that back. Went broke again, made it back, went broke again. But my biggest downfall, the Commons denominator, was alcohol and women. Them two problems never allowed me to really reach my full potential. Right? Even when I seen. A couple years ago. You seen it, 2019, when I was single, single. When I went. Moved back by myself, I ran that up. Flourish. But it'd be women holding me back. I'm sorry that I didn't do what I was supposed to do. And a lot of my. When I was in the job that way, I felt that was my duty, but because I had certain people in my. In my ear that I thought had their best interest in me. But when that bag ran out, they left. Yeah. I'm sorry. No, I'm not a sorry person. I apologize. Okay. I appreciate that. And. But listen, I was not. I was talking to a. He moved in months after. You think he was gonna move into a dog house? You think I. You think I wanted to see how I was living? No. And when you Say I asked you like, yo, can you just get my, my lights on? I'll pay you back. That's when I was scamming and doing all that. That got slow too. So I'm like, all right. You was like, no, I take my son. Nobody taking my kid, not even his father. Like, as long as Ash wasn't scared of the do, we was good. You know what I'm saying? Like, I still had candles. We was playing, we was doing all that. We would stay outside. That turned you up a notch. Until it went, until it got dark. And then we would go in the house. He never asked me why the lights ain't coming on. It don't matter. So as long as he was good, I was good. I just wanted to be able to call your baby, you know what I'm saying? And just be like, yo, get my lights coming off of me. You should have. But guess what? That made you a demon. And when I say demon, I say it in the best way that turns you up. And you I gotta tell Teach my kids, especially my oldest boy, my 11 year old bro. Like, I don't want you to have to go through something bad to learn a lesson. Right. I don't think everybody should go through something bad and learn a lesson. Right. But in your case, I feel like, yeah, that put that battery in your back. And no, when that battery came in your back, you ain't, you ain't treat me no way. Nope. It took still a minute for us to create that bond. Yeah. But y'all have it now. And I think y'all both should give each other some grace. Cause y'all was dumb. Y'all young. Correct. Yeah. And I always was a hurt young man, so. Right. But I love this story because it shows the foundation and how you all are now. Yeah. And how y'all treat each other now. You know, I don't know you, but the way she talks about you on the radio and, and like you said, she is a mother. She protects you, she holds you down. I just love to see it. Yeah. No, sometimes I'll be telling to stop talking about Room like that. He always did. But it's like, like, why you be talking about Room? But I, I, I, I, I get it. She don't mean no harm by. No, you don't. Like I said, man, like, I wish a lot of other people would take from us. And that's why this gotta be on tv. That's why y'all writing the book. Yeah. Book coming. Everything. Yes, everything coming. I think the most Important thing, because I want y'all to save a lot of this. But what's the most important thing it takes to co parent? If y'all just leave. Leave it on that. Because it's National Co parenting Day, yo. I think I started off communication. Like, a lot of people be scared to hurt each other feelings. And a lot of people be afraid to have uncomfortable conversations, whether it's about kids, unhashed differences, whatever. Like, one day, me and Rome just literally met up and just. We just talked about everything that, you know, he felt like I did him wrong in certain situations. And then he felt like I will always try. Cause he says I'm controlling a lot. And I do take that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I own that. I do. Like, I was trying to control how he parents sometimes, like, how he would raise Ash and all of that type of stuff. We just put everything on the table and just was like, all right, you're moving forward. Cause it's really about Ash. And that's really, like, when we. After that, it was like, no looking back. It's like, all right, whatever. Cool. Piece of cake. I'm sure it's a discussion that'll continue on, not even just amongst, you know, Jess and Rome, but it's amongst anybody out there that's right. You know, dealing with co parenting issues. But I think Rome, you know, Rome is talking to a lot of different issues that a lot of us men go through. You know what I mean? So I'm happy that you was vulnerable this morning. That's right. You know what I mean? Well, there you have it. And their book is coming soon via Black Privilege Publishing. Simon and Shoes. Love you more, sis. All right, well, it's Rome. Yes, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Charlemagne. Tha God here. I just want to tell all of y'all, happy New Year, man. And may this new year all your dreams turn into reality. And may all your efforts turn into great achievements. Man. Salute. See y'all in a week. Breakfast Club. This is an ad by BetterHelp. What's your perfect night? Is it curling up on the couch for a cozy, peaceful night in therapy can feel a bit like that. Your comfort place where you replenish your energy with better help. Get matched with a therapist based on your needs entirely online. It's convenient and suited to your schedule. Find comfort this season with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp H E L P dot com.