The Breakfast Club BEST OF - The Casey Crew, Jess and Rome Interview

Summary

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The Breakfast Club BEST OF – The Casey Crew, Jess and Rome Interview

Podcast: The Breakfast Club (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: December 25, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Main Guests: The Cast of Good Times, The Casey Crew (DJ Envy & Gia Casey), Jess and Rome

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Episode Overview

This "Best Of" Breakfast Club episode celebrates family, co-parenting, and the evolution of relationships. The hosts revisit standout interviews with the cast of Good Times (marking 50 years since the show’s debut), The Casey Crew (DJ Envy and Gia Casey reflecting on marriage and parenting), and a candid, often hilarious conversation with Jess Hilarious and her co-parent Rome. Throughout, the hosts and guests explore the joys, challenges, and complexities of family life, parenting, and maintaining healthy relationships—whether married, separated, or co-parenting.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. [07:00] Open Lines: "Get It Off Your Chest"

Audience members call in to vent, joke, and discuss relationships, with plenty of classic Breakfast Club banter:

• Callers riff about the show's recurring innuendos and request a segment be renamed from "Get it off your chest" to "Get it off your mind" ([06:11]).
• Relationship woes and side-partner drama dominate the calls, with the hosts giving tough-love advice.
  • Charlamagne: "You need to go find that somebody, because it’s not going to be with him." ([08:09])
• Humor, shade, and a few wild detours abound as listeners and hosts riff off one another.

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2. [13:25] The Cast of Good Times: 50 Years On

Guests: Ralph Carter, Bernadette Stanis, Jimmie Walker

The iconic cast reflects on the show’s origins and its cultural legacy:

• How They Landed the Roles:
  • Bernadette Stanis recalls being discovered at a beauty pageant.
  • Ralph Carter talks about his Broadway roots and being scouted by Norman Lear ([16:21]).
  • Jimmie Walker shares how skepticism led to his unlikely casting ([18:11]):

    "I'm just a hardcore standup. That's all I do... They told me there was a script. I said, this sucks!" — Jimmie Walker [18:34]

• Thoughts on the Netflix Animated Reboot:
  • Bernadette Stanis expresses disappointment, clarifying it’s not a true reboot.
  • Ralph Carter: "I was quite disappointed with the actors who took time to sign on to that project... I won't use the past tense with them right now, but I'm disappointed." ([23:21])
  • Both critique the portrayal of Black families in the animated series and lament missed opportunities for a reunion or thoughtful continuation.
• Theme Song Debates: The cast recalls how the theme ("Hanging in a chow line/jive-in") remains famously misunderstood, with multiple lyrical interpretations ([30:50]).

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3. [32:20] The Casey Crew: Real Life, Real Family

Guests: DJ Envy (Rashaun Casey) and Gia Casey
Interviewers: Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious

The married duo discusses their new book, "Real Life, Real Family," and open up about family dynamics, parenting philosophies, and building healthy home environments.

Highlights:

• Origin of "The Casey Crew":

  • "One of us said, well, how about the Casey Crew? Our last name is Casey. We have a whole crew of kids... people said, yeah, we love that name." — Gia ([32:59])

• Addressing Trauma and Modern Parenting:

  • Gia on modern terminology: "The difference now is that we have words to identify how we feel... when it's articulated, then you're able to communicate... there's value there."
  • On reading social media comments:

    "The comments are food. And they also bring me happiness when they're good. It lets you know that you're reaching someone... I was raised to be a very strong and resilient woman." — Gia ([36:37])

  • The couple talks about debunking the myth that financial privilege removes all parental stresses.

• Different Parenting Styles:

  • Envy is the disciplinarian: “Because I said so.”
  • Gia prefers explaining decisions and building open communication.

    "I really prefer the explanation. My parents never said no just for the sake of saying no." — Gia ([41:43])

• Navigating Transparency with Kids:

  • The importance of honest discussions, even around uncomfortable topics like sex, as their children grow and become exposed to real-world situations.
  • Gia: "If I didn’t set them straight, they were going to be absorbing wrong ideas. So I told them sex feels good… but it’s meant for someone that you love." ([47:50])

• Mission Statement & Family Values:

  • The family operates by a shared ethos of unity, mutual respect, and accountability.
  • Envy: "We always have each other's backs. That's one thing we always do." ([51:42])
  • Gia: "When they leave our house, I want everyone they meet to know they're well loved." ([52:52])

• Lessons Learned:

  • Gia shares how over-explaining led to their son expecting explanations for everything, which required recalibrating boundaries ([49:34]).
  • Both stress giving children a foundation of love and communication but also establishing authority and structure.

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4. [66:00] Donkey of the Day: Santa Claus & Chimneys

Host: Charlamagne Tha God

An irreverent, tongue-in-cheek segment about a man who got stuck in a chimney while evading arrest—compared to Santa Claus in the process.

"Whoever made up the story of Santa Claus was high as hell, ok? It's the only explanation." — Charlamagne ([64:03])

The riff opens to a broader debate about Santa’s plausibility and the myths people believe, sparking laughter and playful shade from the cohosts.

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5. [68:00] The Jess & Rome Interview: Co-Parenting Masterclass

Guests: Jess Hilarious and Rome

A raw, witty, and openhearted conversation about evolving from young love, to family drama, to best-friend-level co-parents. This segment stands out for its candor, chemistry, and realness.

Key Discussion Points:

• How Their Relationship Began:
  • They reconnected as young adults over social media—specifically, a basketball emoji in Rome's DM.
  • Their first big date was at Six Flags. Jess admits, "She introduced me to a lot, actually. We both was the same age, but she helped make me become... a man." — Rome ([69:59])
• The Legendary “Window Incident”:
  • A wild retelling of a fight involving a broken car window, surprise walk-ins, and involvement of the police—with each giving their own take, contradicting (and teasing) each other to hilarious effect.
  • "I can literally walk past this man naked, and he wouldn't even—girl, what? It ain't like that." — Jess, on the platonic but close nature of their relationship ([76:29])
• Dealing with New Partners and Boundaries:
  • Rome admits he used to be controlling about who Jess brought around their son but grew to trust her decisions ([81:20]).
  • Jess: "I don't like when I… cause I even tell him when he doing wrong, too, like, yo, don't treat her like that. Do right or just be single… when you have kids, it's different." ([82:20])
• Generational Trauma and Growth:
  • Rome vulnerably discusses losing his mom, not learning how to love properly, and repeating negative patterns seen in his father.

    "Every relationship I've went into, I had an expiration date. I said, she gonna get what she gonna get, I'm get what I'm getting, I'm gone.… I've never gave a woman a chance to really love me." ([83:20])

  • He admits to having kids out of vulnerability after past breakups, not always making healthy decisions.
• Crucial Realization: The Shift to Friendship & Healthy Co-Parenting:
  • Rome: "When I stopped caring about who she dealt with... that’s when I knew it was over, feelings-wise."
  • They both acknowledge the importance of communication, accountability, and putting the child first.

    "A lot of people are scared to have uncomfortable conversations… We just put everything on the table. It’s about our son." — Jess ([94:04])

  • Rome publicly apologizes for past mistakes, breaking down the factors behind bad decisions and expressing gratitude to Jess for her support and forgiveness ([88:18]).
• Final Takeaways:
  • Sensitivity, tough talks, and grace are key for successful co-parenting.
  • Both agree their story can help others—and have plans to write a book about co-parenting.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Ralph Carter (Good Times):
  “We give respect to the spirit of Miss Esther Rose and Jeanne Dubois… These are wonderful people that helped us along the way.” ([16:21])

• Bernadette Stanis:
  “Our audience missed something… they want the completion of it. My thing about the animation was… it’s not it at all.” ([23:09])

• Gia Casey:
  “There’s value there [in calling things ‘trauma’] because now we can see each other. We understand each other.” ([35:38])

• DJ Envy (on parenting):
  “We always have each other’s backs. That’s one thing we always do.” ([51:42])

• Jess Hilarious (on co-parenting):
  “A lot of people be scared to hurt each other’s feelings. We just put everything on the table.… it’s about our son.” ([94:04])

• Rome (on vulnerability and growth):
  “I never really knew how to be alone. I feel like I gotta have somebody laying next to me… but I never gave a woman a chance to really love me.” ([83:20])

• Charlamagne (Donkey of the Day):
  “Whoever made up the story of Santa Claus was high as hell, ok? It’s the only explanation… And the fact we created this one size fits all story that doesn’t even make no damn sense…” ([64:03])

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Conclusion

This roundup episode is a dynamic ode to family—whether by blood, choice, or circumstance. It artfully blends nostalgia (Good Times at 50), honest conversations about modern Black family life (The Casey Crew), and a no-holds-barred deep dive into the messiness and beauty of co-parenting (Jess and Rome). Expect laughter, advice (sometimes harsh, always real), and a strong undercurrent of resilience and love.

Must-listen for:

• Anyone navigating co-parenting, blended families, or relationship transitions
• Fans of Black pop culture and classic TV
• Listeners who appreciate raw honesty, humor, and heartfelt storytelling

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Audience Call-In/“Get It Off Your Chest”: [07:00–13:20]
• Good Times 50th Anniversary: [13:25–32:10]
• The Casey Crew (Parenting & Family): [32:20–53:34]
• Donkey of the Day (Santa/Chimney): [66:00–68:00]
• Jess & Rome (Co-Parenting Deep Dive): [68:00–94:15]

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Original tone maintained: warm, candid, funny, and unapologetically real.

Transcript

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I mean, they're still co parenting now, but you know how they got through it, because they had a young Ashton when they were young. That's right. And also my wife would be stopping through Gia, of course. Gia. Casey. We have a book called Real Life, Real Family out right now. We talk about raising our kids. So it's gonna be best for you. Salute to the KC Crew. I thought about the Casey crew when we was at Ms. Patti LaBelle House, because I was making the waffles, and I was like, they're not ready until they're the complexion of the Casey crew. Yes. He actually said that out loud. Like, wasn't under his breath. Like, he really said, is it the complexion of the Casey crew? Yes, it is. Now the ones and everybody understood exactly what I meant. They was like, yeah, that's right. That's how they're supposed to look. Oh, my goodness. Merry Christmas. Let's get into those interviews in a little bit, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on, it's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed, it's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this? Good morning. It's Hudson. Hudson, what's up? Get it off your chest, brother. I just want to know when, like, at 9:50, when y' all wrapping up the show, does the administration ever come down and be like, yo, that was gay, but tomorrow I need y' all to be just a little gayer. First of all, I don't know who this imaginary. I don't know who this imaginary administration is y' all think, you know, has his hand on this show. But no, that doesn't happen, sir. That's all I thought. Let's be honest, though. Who starts the show was like, last night when I went to Dick's, like, that's was talking about Dick Sporting Good. That was ridiculous. Okay, that a little crazy. It was a little ao. It was a little ao. You know what I wanted to know, too, Hudson, Why would they name the store Dicks, though? Like, they was. Because there's people named Dick Sporting Authority Sporting Goods. Richard came down and told we needed a little gayer. Man, shut up. Everything isn't gay. Guys, now you got me googling. Why is Dick Sporting good? Called Dick Sporting Good. Thank you. I said, have a good one, man. Have a good morning. Dick Sporting Goods is named after its founder, Richard Dick Stack. That's his name, man. All right, well, salute to Richard. All right. Hello. Who's this? Yo, it's Todd from Brooklyn. Todd from Brooklyn. What's up, yo? What's up? Good morning, Jess. Morning, Charlamagne. Peace, King. Yo, yo, Envy, I just wanted to tell you. It was one day I was up here joking, pausing every little thing. We think, like, y' all know how y' all do. And then you. You say, get it off your chest. I'm like, nah, that's. That's a big board. How y' all gonna make polyps? Don't force everything. And then not for get it off your chest. You need to change that to get it off your mind. I literally said that. Yo, I'm with you. I said that as soon as I started working yesterday, they up there telling why y' all thinking about men. When I think of getting off your chest, I'm thinking women. What's on your mind? I just can't stop thinking about it now because, yeah, y' all was doing all them jokes. Y' all was doing all them porn jokes. And then right after y', all, you're gonna say, all right, get it off your chest. I'm like, hey, yo, you're right. And who you getting giving that donkey to? I gotta give it to Envy. What he be doing? No, no, no. Donkey for every three. Pause, Pause. That's possible, too. You said, I'm giving it to Envy. I'm saying it's getting. Hello? Who's this? Hi, this is Tamika from Westchester. Hey, Tamika. Get it off your chest, Mama. Okay. Good morning, Envy. Charmaine. I'm a fan. Good morning. I just wanted to get off my chest the fact that I did nothing, and now I'm broken up with the boyfriend that I've been with for three years because his girlfriend. His side girlfriend thinks that I'm her stalker. Wait a minute. His side girlfriend thinks you her stalker? Stalker. All right, explain this to me a little bit more now. So, okay. Okay. So I've been with this boy for, like, almost three years, okay? And when I came out of my relationship, he came out of his relationship for a long time, and he still wanted to explore and all that. And we didn't know what we was. So he told me, like, oh, I'm talking to this one. I'm talking to that one. Talking that one. So it's like, okay, whatever. But time had passed, and he had started moving his stuff into my apartment, and we started establishing things. I work for the city. I put him on my insurance. We started establishing and making plans. I didn't realize how strong of a connection he was making with other girls. But then he comes to me one day and tells me that the other girl. Okay, okay, I've heard enough. So you're not his only girl? No, I'm not his only girl. No. Okay. So what are you calling here to ask us? Well, she's upset because she put him on insurance. It was serious. I wasn't asking. Oh, you just. You just mad at yourself for being stupid. Hey.

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Yes?

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How old are you? 34. 34 years old. How many girls does this man got? Who knows? I can understand it, though. How many yeast infections have you had since y' all been dating? I know your ph balance is always. Oh, stop it. Come on. No, it's not. It's not. Oh, okay. I understand, though. Cause you. You put him on insurance. He moved in. You thought it was more serious than it was, and he was still playing the field. Well, see, see, I want to tell you that. That, you know, you can do better. That's not the part that I'm mad at. The part that I' mad at is that I have nothing to do with his other relationships, and I'm being accused of being a random girl stalker. Why would you. I know this girl. Why would you even care? You shouldn't even speak. Why would I even care? This is what I'm saying. You ever been accused of something you absolutely did not do? Yes. And just supering frustrated, but then also super relieved because it's like you never trust me in the beginning, but it's just super frustrating. Understand you're upset, but stop cursing. But understand that the truth don't need no defense. It only needs witnesses. So as long as you know the truth, that's the most important thing. But the truth is, you just wanted this man's hoes. Now, you need to ask yourself, do you just want to be one of this man's hoes, or do you want to be more to somebody? Because if you want to be more to somebody, then you need to go find that somebody, because it's not going to be with him. Yeah, I'm sorry you went through that, mama, but take him off. He's still going to it Now. Take him off the insurance. She ain't gonna do nothing. Is he still on the insurance? Yeah. Who that talking to you in the background? Nobody that shot on the radio. Oh, yeah, man. You just another one of his hoes, man. And I. And you know, I think that you deserve better than that. But, you know, he did keep it 100 with you from the beginning. Not like he lied to you. He didn't lie. And y' all didn't have a conversation. You just assumed because he moved in. But that was not a great assumption, obviously. Thanks. And I know it's hard. I know it's hard. Three, four years of raw sex. Three. You know what I'm saying? Him blowing in your bunky. I know it got. I know it got you a little open, man, but, you know, you. You deserve better. Thanks. I'm sorry, mama. Have a great day. Have a good day. Damn it, man. She should take him off insurance right now. She nut. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wait. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed, it's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this? Y. What's up? What's up, Trav? Hey, Boo. What's up, baby? What's up? Sh. Peace, sis. What's the word? Hey, it ain't nothing. Ain't nothing. Chilling. Chilling. I just want to shout out two things. Number one, shout out to the Dallas Cowboys. Make sure y' all tune in. Watch us get that work put in now. I mean, talk to him. So I don't like how you said that. You said, watch us get that work. Pause. That mean that we gonna lose, bro. Oh, no, no, no, no, man. Watch us put in that work. Yeah, but you ain't say that. You said, watch us get that work. You bottom this out, bro. You turn this into a bottom instead of a top, bro. Don't do that. You right. You right. Number two, I gotta talk about my man Cole. Y' all had somebody. Come on, Marco. Plus, I think his name shout out to him not mean a. A dream villain like myself, but Charlamagne, I just want to tell you that you know, nobody you name is touching J. Cole. I don't care if it's Big Crit. I don't care if it's Killer Mike. I don't have nothing to do with your ridiculous hip hop takes, okay? You cannot ever. Hold on, hold on, bro. J. Cole is not the king of the south in no way, shape, or form. Yes, he is. That's why he rap better than anybody you can name. That's not true. His cadences, his flows, his deliveries. Name one person. J. Cole don't rap better than Scarface. J. Cole don't rap better than T.I. lyrically, yes, you do. I'm sorry. When it comes to lyricism. Lyricism, Scarface and T.I. bro. Yes. Oh, T.I. first of all, like, hey, none of them see jcole. When it comes to cadences, delivery, flow, lyrics, no matter what it is, substance, all of that. I'm not even arguing. I'm not arguing. This is silly. I'm not. I'm not having this debate. We could. We could fight. Bye. You wasn't even outside. Like, you wasn't even outside when Jake, when. When T.I. and Wayne and Scarface was killing things. Travis said we could fight, right? Hello? Who's this? Yo, it's Kamachi. What's good, man? What's up, shrimp? What's up? What's up, my G? What's going on? Chilling, my brother, man. Just want to get off my chest about the passion game. Y' all know how I do, bro. This Lamonte, man. I made that hoodie for Angela Lee a long time ago. And Charlemagne was hating on me. But I love you, brother. Man. I ain't got no hate for you, man. I'm still out here pushing, man. Seven years strong, bro. Seven years strong. What I was hating About I be forgetting. But back in the day, man, I caught up there talking about fashion designers. She's like, man, you ain't. You ain't nothing, man. You was hating back in the day, but now you're different, man. So it's cool, man. And I also want to get off my chest. I ain't got no hatred for you, man. I swear to God, man. I used to hate you, but now I don't, man. It's cool, man. I swear to God. I know. Hey, for you, bro, I could have made it. I could have made it, man, if you would have just been on my side when I was on the radio. Don't start that now. People get mad when you say something is trash. It might have been trash. I don't remember saying. I've never seen his clothes to say it was trash. No, he said you seen it. He said she was wearing it, and you said it was trash. Sounds like. Damn. You told. Told her it was trash. She was wearing it. Does that sound like it? Absolutely. Damn. All right. Get it off your chest. You got a hooky one. That would be trash. Sound like him. Damn. Sound like him. 800-585-1105. Get it off your chest. At the Breakfast Club. Good morning. He Hur. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special legends in the building, man. Come on, now. This is a special one right here. Legends of the building. Come on now. The cast of good times. 50 years of good times. We got Michael, Thelma, and JJ. Well, first of all, Ralph Carter, Bernadette Stanis, and Jimmy Walker. That's right. Good morning, guys. How y' all feeling? Good morning, breakfast club. 50 years of good times. Wow. Wow. I know. Wow. Wow. And we're still going strong. Yeah. Did y' all know Good Times was gonna make the mark that it made? Well, I didn't. Had no idea. No, we didn't. But we're very grateful it did. Yeah. Well, from the beginning, let's start. How. How did it come about? How did good times come about? And how did you guys audition, and how did it make. Cause during that time, there wasn't too many of us on television. So how did it come about? Well. And he is black. You know, when he's. I don't know. Y' all know he's black. They joking me all the time, but I'm black. But go ahead. I don't know, mister. Yeah, well, it started with me being in a beauty pageant, you know, and from there, There was a manager watching me in the beauty pageant and gave my mother a card to say they're looking for a teenager to be in this show and meet Norman Lear at cbs. You know, so we went up there, but there were thousands of girls when I opened the door. So, I mean, but that's how it started with me. You was a teenager on Good Times?

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Yeah.

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How old was you? 18. Oh, okay. I'm about to. Lord have mercy. Okay.

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Yeah.

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All right. Okay. You're still beautiful. Thank you. Absolutely. So. And then, you know, after a couple of months, I thought I didn't get it, you know, because I didn't hear back from them. And then I did get the call. My mom got the call that I was Thelma and so they flew me out to California. That's how it happened for me. Wow. What about you, Mr. Carter? By the time I began to work with Norman Lear, I had been in my sixth Broadway play by that time, during my journey with Ms. Jane Murray and also Pat Kirkland. These are two wonderful women who I auditioned for. When I went there, however, I literally had the job. Before I got the job, my contract was bought from the Raisin in the sun by Lorraine Hansberry. We did the other version of the musical play. By that time, I had won the Tony Award nomination that year in 74. However, as a result of that, Norman would consistently. He came more than twice to see my work and flew my mother and I out to the state of California. You know, I was reluctant because they always said it never rains in California and I was excited. It rained for three months. When I got there, right then and there, any illusions about Hollywood were always neutralized as far as I'm concerned. So I'm very grateful to have not only worked with and still love Jimmie Walker and Bernadette, but we give respect to the spirit of Miss Esther Rose and to Jeanne dubois and to Johnny Brown who played Bookman, to Helen Martin who played Weeping Wanda. These are wonderful people that helped us along the way. Of course, to Mr. Ben Powers as well, Albert Reed, who played the alderman. These are people who accentuated what we did. Of course, we were working with the wonderful Debbie Allen and the work that she contributed to our production. So we thank you. What about you, Mr. Walker? I'm just a hardcore stand up. That's it. That's all I do. I'm just a stand up to the core. So I went to a comedy store, I'm doing shows. I go back to bed at like 3 o' clock in the morning, get a call JD Jo. She says, where are you? I said, I'm in my bed sleeping. She says, well, you belong across the street. We're doing rehearsals. I said, rehearsal for what? She says, there's a show called Good Times. You signed on to the show? I had signed on to it at the Improv. Yeah, because I didn't believe him because he's a liar. So I was just a verbal contract then? No, they had a contract. Kenny, the drunk who was a lawyer, was at the bar. I said, kenny, is this any good? He said, yeah, I think so. Sign it. I'll send it back for you. And I thought. I said, kenny's a drunk. He's not going to send. He's a liar. He's not going to send it. So then he sent it back. So I was on the show. So I go to the rehearsal, and there's a whole bunch of people there at the rehearsal, because I didn't even know we had a script, because they said, there's a script downstairs. I said, I'm going back to bed because I'm not going downstairs to get a script because they're lying. I don't have time. But you're there. So I went, I got the script, and I'm reading the script, and I said to the guy next to me, like you normally. I said, man, this sucks. What is this? God? I said. He said, we're going to do a TV show. I said, really? I said, you're a liar. It's not going to happen. This is terrible. From then on, we did the show and I was always throwing stuff in and people got upset. So when did you stop thinking people was liars? Never. I think it now people. I mean, agents are liars. They're all liars. No, very few people. People want to be bigger than what they are. And the big people, you never meet them. Yeah, they're in the big glass tower upstairs on the 90th floor. So, you know, even if, like, Bernard, Ella told you, even if I meet a girl, I said, give me your number. I know she's lying because she's not going to give you the number. And then with the horrible things with the cell phones, they don't answer. You text them, you email them, they just. They sit in their room and they sit with their girlfriend and they. They start laughing. They go, this moron I met at Walmart, he asked for my number. I was busy. I gave him my number because I know I'm never going to talk to him. I answer his emails ever again. He didn't get lucky this week. Once in a while, somebody will come through, but very, very rarely. And the girl will be nice and some girls will go, some girls will go. And I learned this from a friend of mine who happens to be a girl, and she said a very interesting thing. She said, you know, if you want to get rid of a guy and he asked you to go out, say, you know, like, if she's a girl, I asked you to go out. So I say, hey, Jess, you know, why don't we, you know, go to go to the Four Seasons and have dinner? That's what they do. They hug and say, are you serious? Really? But you got lucky this week. No, it wasn't lucky yet, but it was a girl that showed promise. Oh, she answered. She answered. And I was like, really? Sometimes. Sometimes you're so stunned. One called you? One. One did call back. I was. I was stunned. How many times you give your number out to these women? All the time. You get. I'm available. Anybody. But see, they. They. And I said to girls, hey, let's go on a cruise together. And they just go. They just go, what age are. They're adults. Yeah, they're adults, or. No, no. They just start laughing. They just go. How do y' all feel about the the Good Times cartoon on Netflix? Well, that's Bernadette's thing. She'll tell you. How do you feel, Ms. Bernadette? Because they keep calling it a reboot, but that's not a. No, that's not. That's not it at all. No, that's not it at all. I think that our audience missed something. You know, they missed what happened to us. It's always, they want the completion of it. It never really happened so far. My thing about the animation was this, that, you know, I know that Jimmy Walker came to them and he presented a cartoon about five years before this, before this one. And it was. It was the really, the all of us, the way we are in an animation, and we have our same voices and everything like that. They didn't bite that. But later on came up with, they're going to do an animation. And I remember my manager called them and said, well, what are they going to. Are we going to be in it or not? So the way they describe the animation to us was this. It was going to be a modern day, you know, progression of what everything is going to be for the Good Times family, you know, fine. But they asked Jimmy and I to do a tiny little part, but it sounded okay, you know, we didn't see the scripts. So Jimmy did a part, I did a little part. My character's name is Peaches. You know, she's like a project lady. That's whatever. But when the trailer came out, we saw it and everybody was like, no, you know, you don't have a crack baby in somebody in the mother's arms. You don't do that. So. And I remember having an interview with the singer Gilstrap, Jim Gilstrap, and he was saying, you know, there are some lyrics that they took out. So I said, what were the lyrics? And he said, well, you know, they say roaches roaming the hallway and the landlord lives on the other side of town or something like that. He said that they took it out because 50 years ago now they thought that that would be offensive to black people. Okay? But 50 years later, you have two roaches singing in the shower. They singing the song Good Time. So I'm like, this is not it. I haven't watched it. Mr. Carty. I actually was quite disappointed with the actors who took the time to sign on to that project. These are actors and artists and comedians that I really had a high regard for. I won't use the past tense with them right now, but I'm disappointed at the fact that they did that. When I did take a quick review of this particular rubbish that I saw, I was contacted by some media outlets from my point of view, but I refuse to dignify with a response. And I'm just pretty much disappointed with the artist who signed on to it. Yeah, y' all don't like the Good Times reboot to say that, yes, it's crazy. 50 years of good times. I'm shocked. Like, nobody did a documentary or some type of, you know, reunion. Peace to the planet. Charlamagne. The God here now. You know, the end of the year is when, like, a lot of business owners are really locking. All right, this is the time to set the foundation for next year. You got new ideas, new product drops, new goals. And when I'm building anything meaningful, I need the right tools. That's why I always tell folks, especially black entrepreneurs and small black owned businesses, Shopify is the move, okay? We use it at the Black Effect Podcast network. And I've seen firsthand how it helps creators and business owners grow with confidence. Entrepreneurship is very important to me, okay? There's nothing wrong with working for people. There's nothing wrong with partnering people. But you should strive to own your own as well. And Shopify can help others grow into entrepreneurs. It's like having a whole team behind you. Your chief of staff, your personal assistant, your co founder, all in one platform. Whether you're running a side hustle or a full storefront selling locally or worldwide, Shopify takes all the guesswork out. Shopify brings everything into one place. You can sell on your website, on social media, and even in the real world. Like some of our partners at our Black Effect Festival coming up in April. Wherever your people are, Shopify makes sure your business can meet them where they're at. Plus, you got Shopify Sidekick and their AI tools. Total game changers. I love how it's like having an assistant giving you insights, content ideas, edits. Shopify's got your next move covered. So let me ask you this. If you're ready to take the next step in your life, whether it's merch, products or anything in between, get on shopify.com ben that's shopify.com ben and make it happen. It is time to stop putting off your future and start your new role as your own boss today. Hey, what up, y'? All? It's DJ Envy and the holidays are here. The time of year that's all about connecting with loved ones in person or over the phone. In fact, hearing someone's voice can evoke a similar emotional response as a hug. And while most of us can hop on a video chat to really bring that connection to life, using tech isn't easy for everyone, especially some of the older folk in our lives. AT&T has been doing something special here to help. They offer digital literacy workshops that help older adults learn how to use technology to do things most of us take for granted, like video conferencing and sharing photos. Take Nancy Shand. She joined one of AT&T's workshops to learn how to video chat for the first time this holiday season, Nancy won't just be hearing about family gatherings, she'll be a part of them. Sharing stories, opening presents, and making memories all through a screen. Nobody should have to go through the holiday season alone, so be sure to connect and stay connected to your loved ones this holiday season.

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Connecting changes everything.

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You are the fittest of the fit.

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Only one of you will leave here.

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With an IFIT contract worth $250,000. This is where mindset comes in.

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Someone will be eliminated. Pressure is coming down. Trainer Games on Prime Video January 8th. Watch the trailer on trainergames.com show like y' all didn't get approached about none of that. No. The anthology that I did write, it wouldn't be a product commercially right now, again, because of the losses that we had the. But we did have a group that we worked with that we're gonna put together, and we had all the characters.

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It'.

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They are now ancestors. So this is Brett Miller, who works with Norman, and that's the guy who kind of. Kind of giboshed us. Yeah. And that. That was it. I mean, that's the way. Because when I took it around, everybody I talked to says, well, do you own the rights? We go, no. And they said, well, nothing we could do for you. And these are all friends of mine. So that's the way it was. I just think that they didn't want us involved and they achieved their goal. Yeah, well, we love y'. All. Yes, absolutely. Our fans really kept writing us and telling us how much they. They loved us. And we did. They did not like the animation. You know, they respect us in so many different ways. So we still got our satisfaction out of it, you know. Right. Absolutely. And when the people don't like it, watch out. That's Right. Well, we appreciate you guys for joining us. 15 years of good times. The lyrics to the theme song. Y' all all know that? No, I don't know it. I think Ralph knows it. Keeping your head above water Making a way when you can Temporary layoffs Good times Easy credit Ripfall Good time Scratching and surviving Good times. Good times Hanging in the childline. No. Oh, it's hanging in the child line. That's how I interpret it. I have the written Hanging in jive. Yes, it is hanging in. You have two versions. Hanging in and Jiving. Hanging in and Jiving. But also I have on document in my archive. And Hanging in the Chapel. Isn't that something. They said it that way. So long. They have both versions of it. However, it really caught on the way that the wonderful Jeanne dubois wrote the soundtrack for Moving on up for the Jeffersons. Jeane dubois is the writer and the musician and the vocalist that sings that song. So that in itself, when you deal with theme songs and when we were coming on, y' all were gracious enough to play it for us. So it was a nice way to walk into your sound studio. And we thank you. So the mystery continues. We still don't know if it's hanging in the chat line. It's hanging in. It's hanging in and jiving. Yeah, that's what it is. Bernadette and I are going to have this going on for a while, obviously, but we appreciate you. Jim Gilstrap, the one who sung it, told me he said it. He said it was hanging in and jiving. Hanging in the jiving. So that's what it was. But it came off. I don't know if it was the enunciation of it or not, but it came off as hanging in a childline. It sounds that way, but it really was hanging in a jive. And there's a second verse that people have never heard that goes to the same song. So the. The information that I do have, it has what I'm trying to. Singing in the shower. So you guys have been wonderful. I thank you for thinking enough of us again. To your listening audience, we thank you again for wonderful 50 years. May you be blessed by every breath you breathe and every beat of your heart. Thank you very much. That's right, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Thank you. All right. Yes. The world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God. Lauren Laros is here. Jess Hilarious is here. Who's filling in for Envy? Lauren Larose is filling in for Envy. Is Envy Filling in. He's here. I'm here. But she's filling in. Yeah, yeah. He's a guest today, though, because his new book, Real Life, Real Family, with the queen of the house, Gia Casey, is out right now. How you feeling?

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Humble. By being given the opportunity to write a book about something that is the most important thing to me, the thing I'm the most passionate about, the thing that brings me the most joy. Family, parenting, my household, our home. So, yes, I'm very humbled.

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This is the second book.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's amazing. You know what? Let's just rewind it back. For those who don't know, who is the KC Crew? Where did that name come from? How did y' all get started? Do you. Do you remember the Casey Crew? Yeah, it's our last name. What do you mean?

[A]

No, no, no. But do you remember how we came up with the name?

[B]

No. How do we come up with the name?

[A]

We were doing our first podcast, and it was before we were doing, like, the audio version, the video version. It was just the audio version. And we started the podcast without a name. And we sat there and we kind of of was coming up with, like, different names. And one of us said, well, how about the Casey Crew? You know, our last name is Casey. We have a whole crew of kids, a whole gaggle. What about the Casey Crew? And then people, you know, DM'd us and emailed and whatnot, and they said, yeah, we love that name. We love that name. So we decided to call ourselves the Casey Crew.

[B]

Amazing. That's what it came about. And whenever you post on social, you always hashtag the KC Crew.

[A]

Yes, Envy does as well. But one of the things that you.

[B]

Guys do really good from the podcast to bringing it online, is you pay attention to the comments and the responses. Yeah. And you guys bring them into the podcast, but you also, like, reflect on.

[A]

Them on social media.

[B]

So I want to read one of the. The post that. That we pulled, and I thought that this was great. You inspired me. This is someone commenting to you guys. You inspire me. I wish all parents had this level of intention, planning, and vibe. Truth is, most parents, moms are stressed, overworked by trying to make ends meet in harboring trauma. Therefore, it's passed down to the children. You've passed down light and love because of that and because of what you are. High five to all of the parents doing their best. And you use that as a moment to talk about, like, no, it get a little crazy over here, but.

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Oh, yeah, but it's Important, because when.

[B]

You, if you've ever been around your family, it is a lot of love and a lot of light, but I'm sure on the inside, things get crazy.

[A]

Well, you know, that's a big misconception. People assume that because you live a certain lifestyle or because you've earned a certain financial status, that you don't have the same problems that they have. You know, so that comment really, really stood out to me because she spoke on the troubles and the trauma and the word trauma that she used, and Rashaun will speak on the word trauma. Sometimes he feels as though it's a word that's overused, but it's a word that represents something that so many people endure. The difference now is that we have words to identify how we feel and what we go through. And it's articulated because when our feelings and our experiences are articulated, then you're able to communicate. People are able to understand you. You're able to understand other people. You're able to have empathy and compassion for other people. Because now we're all speaking a universal language, like the word triggered, like the word trauma, like the word gaslit gas. You know, these are things that some may think are overused now, but, yes, but there is value there. There is value there because now we can see each other. We understand each other.

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When you're trying to create a safe space, you know, how is it to venture into an unsafe space like the comments, especially with somebody that's on the air every day? You know what I mean? People have an opinion about envy every day.

[A]

So I read every single comment, every.

[B]

Last comment, every YouTuber interacted.

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I interact. It started when I had a lower follower count. It started because I always felt that if someone follows me, that's an investment. A small investment maybe, but it's an investment that they put into me. And they're looking at my contact content, they're looking at my pictures. And you left a comment. I want to respond back to you. I used to respond to almost every comment, you know, but then when my followers went up, I wasn't really able to do that. And that was something that, you know, I had to take that on the chin. I wasn't able to, but it's a sign of respect. And you said, why do I do that to myself? Because I'm strong enough to do that.

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That's right.

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I'm strong enough to do that. The comments don't. If they are negative, and I have to say, I don't receive a lot of negative comments. Thankfully, thank God. But if they are negative, I look at it as insight. I might ask myself, why might someone have that perspective? To me, it feeds my mental because I'm a thinker. I'm a deep thinker. I mull over things. I love to understand people. So for me, the comments are food. And they also bring me happiness when they're good. It lets you know that you're reaching someone, you're whatever it is that you're putting out, because it's in the sense of sharing. There's a lot of things that I don't share. So if I choose to share and it's well received, then that's a good feeling. I think that's why a lot of people are on or part of the reason why a lot of people, people are on social media. You know what I mean? And I'm strong enough to do so. And that's because of the way that I was raised. Yeah, I was raised to be a very strong and resilient woman. It comes directly from my parents. I'm fortunate in the sense that I can look back and identify things about the way that I was raised that created the individual, the woman, the mother, the wife that I am. And it's, for me, it's a very beautiful thing. Both of my parents are no longer here. So to be able to say, wow, when my mother did this every single day, or when she took me here once a week, or when she said this to me and those compliments. So. And that the way that she fed me and she fed my soul and the joy that I experienced and the amount of fun that I had as a kid, like, I loved my life. And it's not because we were wealthy. We were not. We're a middle, middle class family. I'm from Brooklyn, from East Flatbush. We weren't raised, you know, like I'm from an urban area. And it's not. Had nothing to do with money. It had nothing to do with wealth. It had everything to do with what my parents poured into my home and the love that I felt. And that is what we put into writing this book. There's a lot of books that we could have written. You know, so many ideas came home because Real Life, Real Love was a huge success. It was a national bestseller. So it's like, oh, you can write a book about this. We said, we want to write a book about family. It's what we know best. It's what we know best. We've had so many ups, so many downs, so many wins, so many Losses. So many things that we thought we were doing right that we weren't, that we had to regroup and make sure that we were balanced, you know, as. As a married couple. Because when we didn't agree, it's like, my way is better. No.

[B]

What?

[A]

My way is better. And this, you know, we had to come to a meeting of the minds.

[B]

Yeah.

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You know what I mean? So our relationship, you know, the relationship grew, you know, because we had to learn how to see eye to eye as parents. So there was just. There was many, many ups and downs. And we wanted to pour that all into a book, you know, we wanted to let everyone know, like, it's really that village mentality. It's really that, like, we are a community, as. Especially our black community.

[B]

Because I'm black.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

For the record. For the record, he is 100% black. He doesn't have. He doesn't have an ounce of Spanish.

[B]

Blood since he's black.

[A]

But I know that you're well aware because you speak to things of this nature often. But our history is being erased in schools, and it's being stripped away silently in society. So the foundation starts in our homes. We have to teach children how to identify themselves. We have to teach children that sense of belonging. And they have to understand that they come from something meaningful. And if you leave it up to society to teach them that, you're going to wind up with children that are lost, that are overlooked, that don't know how to identify themselves, that get taken advantage of, and that are susceptible to what society wants for them. So for us, our core, our nucleus, our foundation, our home supersedes anything else in this world. We put our family first.

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Would you say that you and Envy have two different parenting styles? Absolutely. Who's the more lenient parent? Who's the more lenient parent? It depends what it is. Okay. Like, you know, everybody knows. My dad is retired police officer and ex military, so I'm disciplined. I was the yellow, the screamer. Because I said so. Yeah. Gee, is a lot different. Like, seven hours. Like, it. Don't be like, she wants to know why. Yeah. Why did you feel that way? And I can tell she likes to break down. Yeah. You don't get it. You're gonna get it by the end of the day. You burn that trip up on the words. Exactly. So you gotta think, really think before you speak to her. Because she's like, all right, well, explain that. Like, I just said it just. No, no, no. Explain this. But. So I'm more like. Because I said, so. She's more like, well, you can't go to the mall because of this, because this could happen. Explain your parenting style. Mine is. My dad was like, no. And you didn't ask why. It just. It was what it was. You just figured out later years a little different. I prefer the explanation.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So that's how my parents were with me. I knew that my parents were invested in me, living a happy, fulfilled, and fun life, and we didn't go lightly on the fun. And because I knew that, and. And my parents never said no just for the sake of saying no. Because parents are overworked and they are stressed, and the last thing they want to hear when they walk through the door is, mommy, can I. Can you take me here? Can you buy me this? Can we watch this together? Can we go, like, slow down? No. And sometimes you say no. You don't even know why you're saying no. That's not a good parenting technique.

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Yeah.

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You really have to take a moment. You have to take a beat. We all have to take a beat to listen to our children and be patient. And because I knew that my parents were invested in me that way, I knew that when they said no, there was a good reason.

[B]

How do you make sure you're not. You're raising the kids out of love and not fear, though.

[A]

That's such a good question. It comes with the explanations. Do you know what I mean? I don't tell them, you can't do this and you can't do that. Why? Because I said so. Let me explain to you why. You know, sometimes we'll watch the news together, you know, when they're at an appropriate age, at about nine years old, you know, I think that they're mature enough to ingest certain things. So what I do is I would record it on my DVR and then cherry pick different stories that I think that are appropriate, that speak to the protective measures that we take on them. You know what I mean? So it's like, if I see a child abduction that's not too traumatic, I might save that and then show it to a child that's old enough. You know, I did it with Madison. I did it with Logan. And I find that they take that into their adult lives, and they're very, very like. Madison walks around like a police officer. She has a boyfriend. His name is Andrew. And when they go into a restaurant, she's the one that sits facing the door. She feels like the protective force in that relationship because her head is always on swivel you know what I mean? She could tell you a car that was driving six cars ahead, you know, and she's always paying attention to license plates. When she was young, I used to go through, like, in case you get kidnapped scenarios, because it's the type of information that can save a life. Girls are being taken.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So if you have a young girl, it is very proactive to educate them about the realities and the tricks and the cons that people. You know, because even me, as proactive as I try to be, that whole technique with a baby crying outside your house, I would. I would be inclined to open the door.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If I hear a baby crying and someone that sounds like a mother yelling and screaming outside the house, I am that type of person.

[B]

But not me.

[A]

But now I. I am. I am. I would. My heart. With my. I would be inclined to open that door. But now with all the knowledge and some of the good things about social media is that so much knowledge is being spread, so now we're consuming good information as well. So I heard that. I'm like, wow, that's absolutely right. It jogs your thinking. It makes you say, oh, wait a minute. I do have to put myself first. Even if someone else, a stranger, seems to be in need, I have to prioritize myself, my home, my family. So, you know, it's. It's important to spread information and to teach your kids. Even though it may be a little scary, but you do have to do it in a way where it doesn't incite fear.

[B]

Yeah. How y' all pick and choose? What do y', all, like, What y' all decide to be transparent about? Like, it's just so much. Your kids are getting older, and they're like, you know, like, they. They're wanting to walk by themselves with their friends. How do you know if it was up to me? I'm transparent with everything, Right. Gia has to hold back a lot. Like, for instance, like with Logan. Right. Logan, when he was in high school, used to get picked on all the time, but he used to get picked on. Guess for what reason? Oh, me and light skin. No, cuz. Cuz. Charlamagne. Yes. Yes. So stop being gay. I tell you all the time when you gave me the ass. That's why. Pause.

[A]

What?

[B]

Wow. You daddy get this. He gave me the butt cake when he gave me the butt. Not much better. You know what I meant?

[A]

No.

[B]

We not about to hate me getting made fun of because of that, so. But the reason I'm so transparent is there's so Many families and people dealing with the same things but never want to talk about it. Scared to. So that's why I talked about the orgasm thing in the first book. That's why in this. In the second book we talk about, you know, the. The time. The orgasm thing from the first book. Every interview you do that. Googles it. Every interview. Lauren, do you want to do some research? You should tell a listener. So even like in this book, we talk about the time that Logan found a bloody condom at one of his friend's house. So he came. But he's comfortable. Why are you looking at that? It wasn't mine. He's like, oh, found a bloody com. It wasn't our house. All right.

[A]

He was at his friend's house.

[B]

At his friend's house.

[A]

And. And he was like maybe nine years old.

[B]

Nine years old. He.

[A]

He was about nine years old, but.

[B]

He was comfortable enough to come.

[A]

They were in the basement and. And the little boy had an older brother.

[B]

So what did you say when Charlemagne gave daddy the ass? Oh, my gosh. So she had. That's when we had the sex talk. And Gia had to have the sex talks with L. Logan and Madison. What kind of sex talk, though? No, it wasn't a back door sex talk. So it ain't just birds and bees. It's birds and wasp and birds. No, I'm serious. Birds. And they.

[A]

They got a full blown.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Sex talk. They had to understand because if you leave it there.

[B]

No back door sex talk. If that's what you. If I'm really trying to figure out why was the condom bloody? I'm really. Somebody ran a red. Like. Or.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Somebody Butt open. Somebody ran a red light out of it. Could also be like a first time thing. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But no, they. At that point, I found that they were old enough and mature enough and you're. They're encountering things now. These conversations are being had amongst their peers. And I knew that if I didn't set them straight that they were going to be absorbing all of this wrong information and wrong ideas. So I told them sex feels good. It's a pleasureful experience. God made us that way because God wants us to reproduce. He wants us to create offspring. So he made it something that we would enjoy. But it's meant for someone that you love, and that's the reason why. So they're like, oh, okay. So what is it like?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And what did you say? Okay, if I'm being honest, I told them that there is a penis and there is a vagina. And my son Logan was like, so, like this. I was like, yeah, something like that. I said, you know, some people look at it as a negative thing. No, no, no, he really didn't. No, he really didn't. He really did. Even like my 11 year old son right now, he does not know. So when they ask me questions that I don't want them to know about, and he's older than Logan was, but now with. I have a better grip on his friends and a grip on what he's exposed to on his phone and whatnot and parameters, boundaries. So I'm really abreast of what he knows and what he doesn't. And our lines of communication are way better.

[B]

Yeah. You have six kids, so is there anything that you felt like in the beginning I didn't know? And until y' all got to that sixth kid.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Yeah. Like, what were some of the.

[A]

I'll give you an example.

[B]

That you didn't know. You just was like, man, Rashawn, winging this.

[A]

Like, I'll give you. I'll give you an example. So one of. One of the fails, and this was something that we disagreed on. So it was the explaining everything to the kids. I have the patience to do it. And he really is a because I said so type of guy. And it worked beautifully with Madison. But with Logan, from a young age, I would explain everything to him. And he's a mama's boy times 30, you know what I mean? Like, we're very, very close. But it kind of went wrong with him because what we found was that we created an environment where he felt that he was entitled to an explanation. And he felt as though, because we gave him too safe of a space, that he could challenge me and he can challenge a decision that I made. So we had to dial that back. And then we had to teach boundaries and let him know his place. So that was a fail in a sense. And Rashawn would always look at me like, see, I told you. Like, see, I told you I was.

[B]

Always the bad guy because now I gotta go discipline that. So now me and Logan get into it. And now you can't beat Logan because Logan did. So now I gotta discipline Logan and then me and Logan get into it. But one thing about Logan and all of our kids, which is the craziest thing, is they're very forgiving. Like, with Logan, I have to get sometimes so disrespectful for him to understand. And the next day he's like, hey, dad, what's up? And I'm like, hey, dad, what's up? But that's how he is. And he just has conversations. But we have those conversations and we understand and we talk. But he's the one that. Just like his mom. I love that y' all have a family mission. Yes. What is the mission statement and tell people the importance of that. Well, just so we know, we don't have it on our wall and they make the kids read it when they walk in the house. It's not that type of mission statement. It's not like that. So. So our mission statement is just something that we, you know, as a family, we all live by, Right. And I'll read some of them. And the reason is, is we are a close unit, right? So if you see us together, we are all always out together. You see me the other day with Jackson. You've seen me before. And Charlamagne seen me before. So the mission statement is we are a unit, right? We all ride together. Like we are really a unit.

[A]

A unit.

[B]

I'm an only child, so I'm heavy into taking care of each other. We respect each other. Of course. It's simple. We like, we make sure that, you know, we respect each other's feeling. We always have each other's backs. That's one thing that we always do. And, you know, sometimes when we have conversations up here, I always talk about my kids. So when they see stuff on social media, at times I have to stop them because they will go in. Especially Logan. Logan, he is like that.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

We always love uplift each other and point out the good in one another. Right. We see that more especially with our girls in dance because they compete against each other a lot. So when they do, we have to make sure that regardless of what happens, like a couple of weeks ago, London lost, and we thought London got jerked. So I told, you know, I had a conversation with Brooklyn, and Brooklyn was like, dad, don't worry, I'm gonna get first and second four. And she went out there and bust ass and got first and second.

[A]

She got first place and second place.

[B]

You know, gave the first place to her sister because that's what it was. We represent each other at all times. That's how it always is. So we always tell our kids, if we're not there, you make sure that those parents come back and say, oh, my gosh, he was such a pleasure. He was polite. He was this. Even with Jackson at the game, you know, Jackson said thank you a million and one times to you. He said, hello a million and one times. To you because that's what he's taught to do, that you show respect with that.

[A]

My goal for my kids is that when they leave our house, I want everyone that they come in contact with to know that they're well loved. What we teach you inside this house, you exemplify outside of this house. And these are things that a lot of parents don't put into perspective when raising children. Because what do we usually do? We take like, you know, an idea and we throw it up against the wall and we see if it sticks or not. You know what I mean? Oh, that worked. Oh, that didn't. Okay. But a lot of people don't have something tangible that they can go back to and be like, this is a way to create a foundation. This is a way to create a structure. And because we had so many ups and downs and we were able to do that and put it in one place.

[B]

And I think the biggest story I know you hate when I tell a story was Jackson, right? So we had a parent teachers night a couple of weeks ago. Oh, and a teacher came up to me. Teacher that I had no idea. Yeah. Didn't know who he was.

[A]

He was a stem night.

[B]

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[A]

Thank you. You know, my husband.

[B]

Real life. Exactly. Thank you for pulling up. And for everybody else, we just want to add this last part. We actually wrote it with somebody that helped us out with terms and helped us with different phrases and helped us with. Made sure that we were actually doing the right thing when it came to raising our kids.

[A]

Yeah. So we wrote it alongside a psychologist because. Because we wanted to make sure that our outlooks were. Were on the level that I would want to put it out to the public. I wanted the psychological research and quarterbacking behind the way that we parent to pretty much put a stamp on it, to know that what we're doing not just from our personal, experience driven point of view, is sound, but from a psychological point of view is also sound. I wanted to make sure that alongside the truth and the transparency and the experience, that we had that backing to the book as well. I wanted that level of value in the book as well. So.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And also, you know, if you have a child with anxiety, add, adhd, other setbacks, other disabilities, you know, we speak to you in this book as well, because those people are very like, they don't have that many resources. This book is for anyone who is a parent, a single parent, a parent that is married, a single woman, but.

[B]

Maybe about to have kids.

[A]

The next someone that wants to have a child.

[B]

I didn't look at you, Lauren. Wow. Nobody looked at you. First of all, you did look over here. Thank you. It's. It's.

[A]

It's. It's forever. It's a very relatable book. And there's a lot of exercises in the book. We kind of also created it in, like, a workbook style, so there's a lot of reflections. There's A lot of places in there for you to answer questions so you can kind of analyze yourself and understand your own point of view in a way of, like, articulation where if you haven't really thought about. About certain things, it'll jog you to think about things. And even if you don't do, don't take our take, it encourages you and helps you to come up with your own takes on parenting. So you have to.

[B]

Real family. That's right. The Casey crew. It's the Breakfast Club. Need to know. Well, you need to tell them. I am. You have the voice. Tell them it's time for Donkey of the Day. It's a re. But. But you're so good at it. You trying to be a fake ass? Charlamagne. There's only one Charlemagne. Damn Charlemagne. Who you give the duncy of the day to. Well, sexy Red Donkey of the day goes to Robert Langless and Tanisha ebay. They are 33 and 32 years old, respectively, and they was trying to duck the law. Okay. Just like you did last night. It's okay. All right. Somebody out there listening to me right now ran from the police late last night, early this morning. It happens. I understand. Understand. All right. One of the best feelings in the world is running from police and getting away. Trust me, I know. I sold crack once. Okay? When the police come to raid your spot and you hit the woods and get away, what an exhilarating feeling. Now, you shouldn't be doing illegal things that will make the police come after you. I am not encouraging that. I'm just simply saying that when you are doing illegal things and the police come for you and you get away. Incredible. Now Robin and Tanisha don't know what that feels like. No, See, officers tried to execute a warrant on a property in Fall River, Massachusetts. And Robin and Tanisha tried to get away, but it didn't work. Let's go to NBC 10 Boston for the report, please. No, that's not Santa Claus. You're looking at police body camera video from Fall River. It shows a man there stuck in a chimney. We're told officers executed a search warrant at a home on Canal street last night. That's when 33 year old Robert Langlace tried to evade arrest by hiding in a chimney. It didn't work. He got stuck. Police had to call in the fire department to get him out. Langlace is facing drug charges. See, this is what happens when you believe in Santa Claus. Every year you all get mad at me for telling the truth. Nope. Santa Claus is not Real. Hey. Okay, liar boy. Santa Claus is not real. Santa Claus is not real. Charlemagne's a Grinch. Grinch, Grinch, Grinch, Grinch, Grinch, Grinch, Grinch. Turn your radio down if you got kids in the car. Okay, number one, reindeers don't fly. Yes, they do. Number two, you don't even own a chimney. All right, number three, if you own the chimney, why would Santa Claus be able to fit down it? Have you seen Santa Claus? He's built exactly like former Governor of New Jersey Chris Christie. All right? There's no way. There's no way his big ass could fit down the chimney. But you humans have convinced yourselves that the story of Santa is real. And being that you all think Santa is real, you think what Santa does is real. And you thought your dumb ass could just slide down the chimney and end up where exactly, huh? In somebody's living room eating milk and cookies? Huh? Now, Robin and Tanisha were both charged with possession of class A and B drugs. I had to look that up. Okay, Class A drugs in Massachusetts are heroin, morphine, meth, ecstasy, ketamine. All right, Class B drugs. Who said somebody in here? Nick's ready for vacation. We don't drug test up here. My God. Class B drugs of cocaine, crack, LSD, and ecstasy. Okay, listen. None of this is surprising in light of the circumstances. Whoever made up the story of Santa Claus was high as hell, okay? It's the only explanation. And the fact we created this one size fits all story that doesn't even make no damn sense. Hasn't even really stood the test of time. If you think about it, we live in the era of Amazon, FedEx, UPS, dropping packages off all types of day, all times of night. But all Santa got is a bag. One bag. Like he a hoe who just stayed over for the night. And he got something for everybody in the world in just one bag dressed in all red so he don't go to Crip neighborhoods, huh? Not to mention, nobody ever questions who exactly are the elves. I don't think they are elves at all. I think Santa Claus is engaging in child labor. Okay? If he's real, he got a bunch of kids at the North Pole treating them like slaves. Either that or they are desperate migrants from Mexico. And Santa Claus is benefiting from cheap, illegal labor. Now, some of y' all out there are saying to yourself, charlemagne is on the radio making up things about Santa Claus. If you feel that way, then you, too are on class A or class B drugs. I'm making up things about A made up thing. Yeah. The moral of the story is police described Robert's antics as Santa like, well, this is the season. Please give Robert Langless the sweet sounds of the Hamiltones. You are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Ye are. And be so mad at you. For what? Because Santa Claus is real. Santa Claus is real. I don't know why you'd even say that. Santa busted your ass all year long to give a fat white man the credit for taking care of your family. I didn't say Santa was white. I just said Santa's real. Well, either way, giving another man credit. But that is crazy, though, Sanders. Exactly. What type of man gives another man credit for taking care of his family? He grew up Jehovah Witness. Oh, my God. I mean, oh, my God. It's the whole community. I grew up dealing with reality, so, yeah. So Santa is real and so being good out there. So Santa. That's right. Thank you so much. So Santa could get you toys and the elves watching you guys to make sure you guys are doing the right thing so you can get more toys from Santa. He has children, Young children. Charlemagne. Okay, Y' all live in a life who laugh at us because they're like, why are you trying to convince us that this entity is real? But y' all kids, two different levels. Your kids know more about civil rights and everything. He hasn't introduced that to them yet, so you gotta relax. Please. Just three. She's just three. She's just three. All right. Jesus. I ain't gonna lie. I don't know the last time I seen the chimbly. What is the chimney? What's scratched out stressed when you. When you make up your little words? And I know it's because you got your lips going on, but I, I. It's always been chimney for me. I'm sorry. You got a fireplace. I have a fireplace, but I don't have a chimney. If you have a fireplace, you have a chimney. Oh, so what is it?

[A]

Where is that?

[B]

In the attic or something? Oh, you know what? I've never seen a chimney before. I don't know if I got a chimney either. Exactly. I got an electric fireplace, though. Oh, so see now how you do that? You have a chimney, sir, with an electrified place. Yes. I don't know Envy know about houses. I know what we don't got. Santa Claus. Yo, shut up, okay? I know we ain't got that. I know that much. I hate this place, man. All right. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, a man who. I feel like him and Jess have one of the best co parenting relationships I've ever seen. That's right. Rome is here. Rome is here. What's up, Rome? I got in trouble already, Rome. Cause you. Why? What happened? Just say, I want to know who gave Rome some liquor this morning. And I was like, I ain't give it to him. I just told him where the bar was. And I said, help yourself. Help yourself. Yeah, that's fine. You said it was apple juice. And so I was about to take a sip, and I was like, you already knew it wasn't apple juice. I just ain't. Thank you. Was gonna pick the cup up. Okay. You. You and Jess have the best co parenting situation I've ever witnessed. How did y' all get to this point? And she thinks she my mother first and foremost, but it took time. I felt like when you take the feelings out of it and you realize that the child is the most important part of the relationship, because it's still a ratio whether y' all intimate or not. You can do magical things. Magical things. And I think that me being a dad that I was and that I am still today, I wanted that. I felt like if we wasn't going to be together, there was no need for us to be. We've created over time. Whereas now she's my best friend. She's my safe space. I feel like when I can vent to her, because sometimes, all the time, I need it. But I feel like when I was pouring into these other women, they would use it against me. Whereas, though now. Now that she's pregnant, I don't really call her and say certain things because I know she's going through certain things mentally now. So just as I always with my safe space, though. So it's like she's always been a person that I go to, I call, give me advice, some advice I don't take. But just to hear. But just to hear her give it to me, just to know that she care. Because, like, man, I don't really have nobody. How did y'. All. How did y' all meet? How did you meet Jazz? And how did y' all start dating back then? Where did you see it when it was like, oh, this is. This is somebody I want? It's crazy, because we grew up starting to smile. He's starting to smile. He going back? No. Cause I. My mom. When my mom was alive, my mom died. When I was 10, my mom was alive. We went to the same church. My mom died. My father, like, really took me away from everybody. So now it's like, fast forward. Mike. 17. Facebook. And she came across my timeline. And I was like, okay, so I. I did a dot, dot, dot, and I put a basketball emoji. Oh, you thought she was a WNBA player? No. Just shut up, man. Playing with you. No, she bit on it, too. Okay. I think I was like, I'm just coming to get my ball. Coming to get. Was mine something? Yeah. Why the basketball room? I need to know. I've seen it somewhere. What? Loving basketball? No, I seen somebody do that. Like, I don't know what I've seen basketball. This is 11 years. Okay. 12 years ago. So I'm like, I don't. I don't know. I just. I did it because I thought it was. It was corny, but I thought it was, you know. But it worked. It got our attention. What do you think? Just when you saw the basketball, the ball. I just. I said, what the is this? Okay. I just typed that back. And he was like. He said it was my ball. It's my ball, and I'm coming to get. I'm coming to get it or something. Like, I'm coming to get was mine. And I was like, oh, okay. What's up? I already knew what that was. Given what it was. It was. But it worked. It worked. It worked. So y' all started talking. Where was your first date? What was your first. When you started first talking, what was your. Honest, man, Jessica did a lot. I'mma say this. Before a lot of these young guys became Jody, I was Jody. And our first date, big date. I'm gonna say it was Six Flags. Okay. Okay. All right. Not doing it big. But before that, we did a lot of other things. But after that, it was. We did a lot. Like, she introduced me to a lot, actually. We both was the same age, but she helped. Helped make me become. Got me into becoming a man. Yeah. Becoming a man. And then. Yeah. Then boom. Now, Jess always says that you are. You were overprotective, made sure she was good. But then she always said, you can't fight. Oh, my God. No, she never seen me fight. Oh. I never had to. Wrong. We. We fought. I got that from. She did say that. Of course. I'm not gonna fight her, bro. Oh, it's crazy. Cause I just got a picture from the window you bust him on. You busted your windows out your car, man. No. One window. With our fists. What? What Happened. Oh, you can't beat her then. If she could break a window from a fist, I wouldn't try to fight that. What happened wrong? Rome had to take a sip. Thinking about that, that's triggering him. What happened? What happened? All right, like, Jessica pull up. Mind you, we ain't together. Jessica pulls up. I had a girl in the house. So my. My brother, like, come to the top of the steps. Like, just at the door, I'm like, all right, here I come. The nigga don't even wait for me to come. He let her in. He let her in. Oh, boy. Mind you, I walked right past him and his friends with the girl. That's the get in and out of steps. But what did I see when I walked down the steps? Jerome, you didn't see. So initially tries to facade this story. At Ashton, I had a portable rocking bassinet where I could put it in the trunk, send it to her, bring it back. Ashton was in a portable rocking joint. Me and the girl was on the bed. I had on basketball shorts. She had on her uniform pants. She gonna sit. She's been saying this. Uniform pants. She was a military co. This is correctional office. She's a correctional officer. Okay. So, like, she's sitting. She facing me, but her legs is like. You know how that go. Jessica come downstairs, she keeps. She gonna say, oh, we was naked. We was not naked. If we was naked, it had been happening. I don't get naked. Was she topless? Oh, my gosh. She's never gonna tell her anyway. She banged the girl. You beat up the girl? No, she didn't beat up. And I picked up and walked up the stairs and threw her outside, bro, you could never lift me. No. You never. No. Y' all see what I'm saying? She never wants to. She never wants to admit the truth. So hold on. The field couldn't fight. No, I ain't. No. I don't know if she could fight or not, but she. One time. And then she got up, and then she put on her uniform and went and left. Went upstairs. The truth is not. I promise you. I Wish it was. IPhones and cats started fighting. That. That. No, my son was not in no portable nothing. He was on the floor on a blanket, and the cat was looking at him like he wanted to eat him. Yes. It was cement under the carpet, so I would never lay my. I wouldn't even lay on the floor. Y' all been arguing about this for 11 years. She was drunk out of her mind, and I'm trying to figure Out. Why? The whole getting off of work. I had a job. You didn't. I had a goddamn lie. You did not just get off work. You was fired at that time. So please. No, I got fired right after that. I was working at McDonald's. That's when I was stealing out the register overnight. This is. This is so much better, love. I love it. And if I was drinking, okay, I was drinking on the job, but I was at work, so. And then I came to get my son, and he did not come get your son because it was my weekend. Look what I. So what happened Till Monday from daycare? Why would you come and. No, you was coming to be nosy. I didn't have to come to be on daycare. You had a passenger with her. If you coming to get your cousin Nicole, she. I went home and told your ass. Go home. 11 years. You still don't like 11 years old, man, that's my job. How did you break the window? With her hand. So you walked out, seen his car? No, she. I threw her ass out. I shut that door. Jerome. You're not that. You was not that strong like. You did not throw me no more. Yeah, I had you. And it was steps. You Jazzy Jeff. Oh, yeah, that right there. He could never, ever even right now, could not do that. Why you hit the window, though? Why you hit the car? I was just. Really, really. Because he wouldn't give me my son. You wouldn't give me my son. You called the police, and we gonna try to say, I didn't call the police. I don't know how to jail. Pause, pause, listen, hold on. I need. Everybody hear this. Where I'm from, the jail is right there, right around the corner. You gonna walk? It's a few minutes. They heard the commotion. They walked to us. I don't know how they came. He called the police on me and then going. And then when the police came, I just sat in my car. I was mad. I was like, no, I can't move here to get my son. Nicole did tell me, yo, come on, let's pull off. He not giving you the baby. He not giving you the baby. I was like, all right, cool. But I was mad, so I didn't pull off. Police paddy wagon pulled up and got out. And you was like, she right there. She right there, bro. You the eyewitness. How was I trying to get. How did I try to get you locked up when I'm the same old call trying to bail you out with no money? I don't know why you Ever thought you could build somebody out with no money? I ain't sleep that night. You trying to get out. You put her in jail, mister. Check this out. You ever been. You ever went through a woman phone? Of course. Could you eat after that? Yes. You could? Well, I couldn't. I'm comparing that to when she went to jail. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, you know, and you sick. I get sick. I was sick. I didn't. I didn't want. I didn't want her in jail. Why the do I call the police? So now when you hear this story and you say to yourself, why are they there on National Co Parent Day? Because they are, like, the best of friends now. They call each other. Jess calls you her brother. How do you feel about that? How did y' all get there? Do you look at her like your sister? You said mama. I was gonna say, what you say. You created that feel like my mother won't like when we out of town. And like, my mother now, I ain't gonna disclose too much, but she thinks she my mother. No, I just know she likes to control. Like, she know how I am, though. Like, me, I'm a loner. I think part of that controlling part is, like, she cares. And sometimes, especially when I'm under the influence, I've done dumbass. So as good as you know that, you can admit that I've done dumbass. I don't know. Just assisting the back. Everybody, like, you know, everybody knows. But I hold myself accountable to that, mind you. Now, I ain't gonna say I learned from one mistake because I didn't did a dumbass over and over again. But I think in that aspect, that's when the mother. The mother with the V comment, but the bruha calling me brother and sister, like, honestly, without the child, like, it's there. It's seen, like, cameras on, cameras off. Like, you can't fake this or make this up. Oh, yeah, Rome started that. Rome started calling me sis first, and then I started calling him bro. You know, I'm like, yeah, we do have, like, a sibling dynamic in some way. You know, he still confides in my mom. He like, my mom is our mother. Like, it's not. It ain't nothing crazy. It's nothing intimate. Like, seriously, I always say this. People be like, yeah, right. I can literally walk past this, and I don't do this. But I'm saying I can walk past this man naked, and he doesn't. They be like, girl, what? Like that up. I'm talking about seriously, like, how do y' all deal with each other's spouses or each other's boyfriend and girlfriend? Like, how do you deal with his girl? And how do you deal with. Now, Ron, she told us you had 17 baby mamas. Okay. I never told you. He had no doubt. It's cool, though. It's cool. But this was this. And then this was the friction part and we got over that. But this. The friction part was I'm on my business. I don't get her. But the friction part was her getting into mines. But she's still a woman. I'm still a man. Yeah. So women tend to do that. And this is not. No shame to women. I'm mean, no disrespect by saying it, but I think women tends to do that. Especially a woman that care about you. What was she saying? Sometimes you make bad decisions and she's there as your sister to make sure you good. Correct. Regardless if it's life, relationship, or whatever. Correct. She said that on there with me personally, I never really like, I talk to her about certain things, but I never really like my family to get into no intimate situation. Yeah. Because guess what? Y' all can feel a way about this person however y' all want, whether it's negative or good. If I'm gonna deal with this person, I'm deal with them. Like, the female can smack out me yesterday, I might get over it. And it's like, that's why I always. That's how I was always able to distinguish the two. Like when Jessica with her man. There's nothing better than the holidays. The house is full, music playing, cousins talking trash over games. It's like the family group chat finally made it to real life. And right there, when you need a fresh pick me up is Sprite Winter Spice Cranberry. 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Bye.

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Yeah, more so. Yeah, it'll be more so on his end, because it's much more of them. But the thing is. Yeah, the thing is, like, I don't like when I. Cause I even tell him when he doing wrong, too. Like, yo, don't treat her like that. This is not how you going introduce me to her now. I got to know her and whether she had a kid or not, most of the time is the ones that have the kids. But it's like, yo, you gotta do right or just be single. Like, don't keep hurting women in the process of trying to find what you're looking for. I mean, I know that's all a part of dating, but when you. You have kids is different, you know? And then he'd be like, oh, that's why I don't like you to be getting into it, you know? And then I don't like he. He attracts a lot of toxic women, too. Like, abusive relationships where women will put their hands on him. Like, what? Yeah, all right. You know? But he don't. He's like, nah. But I might be with it. I'm all, what, she just blacked your eye? What are you talking about? You know what I'm saying? Like, no, we not doing it. But Claire, I never had a black eye. Okay, well, she bust your nose. Whatever women have put their hands on you. And that's why. And that's why she's my dog. Like, I think she's the only one, really, honestly, the one to get the. Under my skin. Like, it's certain word place she used. And I Don't care what tone she use it in. But to say that, it's like, I was really never taught how to love. When I moved with my dad, I didn't move my dad and my stepmom, which is my mom now, me and my mom have a great relationship. That's my stepmom. And my dad was married, but my dad was cheating. Like, same like my dad, bro. My dad's showing me that, bro. Like, I'm thinking, cool. So, like, when. Even when I started dealing with women and stuff like that, multiple women and all that, my dad was like, yeah, son, absolutely. And I'm thinking, it's cool. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm being taught, like. And every man in my life that I looked at as a role model, to me was the same way. So it's like, what you expect. But the good thing is now is, like, I'm old enough now, and mind you, I ain't perfect. Now I'm seeing it, I'm trying to, you know, change it, but I never was taught to love properly, so. And I never. My trust issues is up from my dad, because I'm seeing what he's doing, going. But I'm saying when it's done to him, his reactions like, damn, you was just doing this. How you gonna get mad? Right? So it's like every relationship I've went into, I had an expiration date me, I put an X ray on myself. I said, she gonna get what she gonna get. I'm get what I'm getting. I'm gone. So I've never really gave a woman the. The commitment, not even commitment, but I've never gave the woman a chance to really love me. But even with the kids, like, even having kids with other women. Nah, I had that. And this is like, I said no disrespect to my children, moms. A lot of my. My children came out of vulnerability. Explain, expound on that. And I'm explaining that so I will meet a woman who I may feel like she. It's what I need another safe place or whatever the case may be. But I'm already vulnerable from a previous relationship. Have a child knowing I don't want to be with this woman, but I feel like I'm forced to be with her because it's a child. And I've done that, you know, multiple times. Multiple times. You needed a therapist, not another baby mama. Correct? Yeah. At the time of. Me. At the time of vulnerability, you know, women. You know, women can they Be masked up, but like, I never really knew how to be alone. Like, I feel like I gotta have somebody laying next to me because even before my mom died, my mom used sleep naked. This is a back then thing. How old were you when your mother passed? Yeah, I was 10. But I was a mommy. Baseball. Did you ever stand. Did you ever really properly. No. So grieving? No, I never really grieved. All I did was I thought it was gonna help me by going to school for social work, because that's what she was. But I never really properly grieved. And that's a. That's a process. Now I do want to get, you know, back in the gym. I do want to get a therapist, but I want everything else around me to be intact so that I could fully commit. Because if I ain't fully committed, it ain't gonna work. How did y' do all? That's the most. I think the most. I don't say most important, but one of the most important things. How did y' all realize we don't have feelings for each other no more? Like, how did that just go away? Like, y' all have. Y' all love each other, but not in that way. I got my answer. You want to go first? You can go first for sure. Because I'm still thinking when I stopped caring about who she dealt with. Oh, when I wouldn't even, like, I wouldn't even care. Like, how long did that take? Oh, three years. Oh, like when action was like three. Yeah. It was still like really young. Yeah, it was like three years, but at that. But honestly, that three years, like, I caught a big check, so it was like, you know, I was almost half a million dollars. So it was like the pain that I had, whatever the case may, I would. I would pay. I would like just buy. Block it out. But other than that, like, you ain't trying to stun on her a little bit though? No, I never. No, I never. I'm waiting for that. I never intentionally stunted on her. I never did that. Never. Okay. I did everything she possibly could ask me to do. And she said on a. A one of these souls, something about a BGE bill. And I'm gonna address that. I never wondered. That was on our show. That was co parenting and I'm address that now. That's electric. I'm explaining. Her lights got cut off. You got a $500,000 check and you left. Listen, no, not. It wasn't right then and there. Yeah. Okay. But it's over time because, mind you, like Mind you, a lot of my place, she helped me. She helped me get a lot on the back end. But in a time like, I helped her. Whatever the case, I didn't know she was moving with a man. I didn't move with a man. Well, she moved the man in with her. Yeah, all right. Okay. After. So he had you in the dog, too. No business. So I don't know that he not there. So, boom, here's his. So here's his. Here's my logic. And. And I'mma say what I'm gonna say to her after I explain it. My logic was, all right, man is in the house.

[A]

Boom.

[B]

B.G. get cut off. So she like, well, Rome. I'm like, well, I'll take my son with me. But that wasn't me talking. That was the girlfriend I had talking. Oh, you ain't tell me that. I never told you that because as a woman, you ain't trying to hear that. And as one, as a man and you being me, I don't want to hear that. So I didn't want to tell you that because I'd have felt less of a man. Unball your fist. Chest. So, yeah, but not enough. I understand them. If somebody else is smacking the cheeks, you pay. So the girlfriend was living in that house. So the girlfriend was like, don't talk about no house. So listen. Go ahead. So the girlfriend was like, I took a certain amount of money out of the bank. I did. She was with me. She like, why you giving it to Jessica? I'm like, cause she need it. And she like, I never said. I never said the reason. I never said the reason. Yeah, yeah. I never said the reason, though. She was like, what exactly does she need? Cause I know you ain't giving her no. She don't need a bag or nothing like that. I'm like, no, it's something else. She like, well, don't she got a living with her? And mind you, I'm drinking at the time. You thinking the same thing. I'm like, you weren't even thinking that till she said it. I wasn't thinking it, but I'm drinking. And I'm like, you know what? You right. Why you ain't ask Jess, though? Crazy. Why you need to pick up the phone and say, jess, what's up with you? Cause I was a young, emotional boy who had just ran into a bunch of money and a bunch of. With that. No, I'm hurt. My hurt young man got a lot of money. Everybody me over, I got some money. I'm doing the one that'll make myself happy. Yeah. And that's how I went broke. Everybody except me. You feel me? Except her. So that was how it's like. And. And granted, right now on today, I'm gonna say I truly, sincerely apologize for not not taking care of you the way I should have. And I'm gonna take my glasses off because for a long time that hurt me. And it's like I never ever, ever, especially you. I never, ever, ever, ever meant to do that to you. And it's like now that's why I even. I work so hard today and just try to even. Just give you something. But in due time, that come back, I ain't. You know, I done made that back. Went broke again, made it back, went broke again. But my biggest downfall, the common denom alcohol and women. Them two problems never allowed me to really reach my full potential. Even when I seen. A couple years ago, you seen it 2019, when I was single, when I went moved back by myself, I ran that up. Flourish. But it'd be women holding me back. I'm sorry that I didn't do what I was supposed to do. And a lot of that wasn't the job that wasn't done. I felt I was my dude, but because I had certain people in my ear that I thought had their best interest in me, but when a bag ran out, they left. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not a sorry person. I apologize. Okay. I appreciate that. And. But listen, I was not. I was talking to a. He moved in months after. You think he was gonna move into a dog house? You think I. You think I wanted to see how I was living? No. And when you say I asked you, like, yo, can you just get my. My lights on? I'll pay you back. That's when I was scamming and doing all that. That got slow too. So I'm like, all right. You was like, nah, take my son. Nobody's taking my kid, not even his father. Like, as long as Ash wasn't scared of the dark, we was good. You know what I'm saying? Like, I still had candles. We was playing. We was doing all that. We would stay outside. That turned you up a notch until it went. Until it got dark, and then we would go in the house and, hell, he never asked me why the lights ain't coming on. It don't matter. So as long as he was good, I was good. I just wanted to be able to. To call your baby, you know what I'm saying? And just Be like, yo, get my life. You should have funny. And you should have. But guess what? That made you a demon. And when I say Damon, I said in the best way that turns you up. And you I gotta tell teach my kids, especially my oldest boy, my 11 year old bro. Like, I don't want you to have to go through something bad to learn a lesson. Right. I don't think everybody should have to go through something bad and learn a lesson. Right. But in your case, I feel like, yeah, I put that battery in your back. Back. And no, when that battery came in your back, you ain't treat me no way. Nope. It took still a minute for us to create that bond. Yeah. But y' all have it now. And I think y' all both should give each other some grace. Because y' all was dumb. Correct. Yeah. And I always was a hurt young man, so you're right. But I love the story because it shows the foundation and how y' all are now. Yeah. And how y' all treat each other now. You know, I don't know you, but the way she talks about you on the radio and. And like you said, she is a mother. She protects you. She holds you down. I just love to see it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, sometimes I'll be telling to stop talking about Rome like that. He always did. But it's like. Like, why you be talking about. But I get it. She don't mean no harm. No, she don't. Like I said, man, like, I wish a lot of other people would take from us. And that's why this got to be on tv. That's why you're writing a book. Yeah, Book coming. Everything. Yes, everything coming there you have the most important thing. Because I want y' all to save a lot of this. But what's the most important thing it takes to co parent? Y' all just leave. Leaving on that. Because it's national co parenting day. Yo, I think I started off communication. Like, a lot of people be scared to hurt each other feelings. And a lot of people be afraid to have uncomfortable conversations, whether it's about kids, unhashed differences. Yeah, whatever. Like, one day me and Rome just literally met up and just. We just talked. Talked about everything that, you know. He felt like I did him wrong in certain situations. And then he felt like. Like, I will always try because he. He says I'm controlling a lot. And I do take that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I own that. I do. Like, I was trying to control how he parents sometimes. Like how. How he would raise Ash and all of that type of stuff. We just put everything on the table and just. Just was like, all right, you're moving forward, because it's really about Ash.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And that's really like when we. After that, it was like, no looking back. It's like, all right, whatever. Cool. I'm sure it's a discussion that'll continue on, not even just amongst, you know, Jess and Rome, but just amongst anybody out there. That's right. You know, dealing with co parenting issues. But I think Rome, you know, Rome is talking to a lot of different issues that a lot of us men go through. You know what I mean? So I'm happy that you was vulnerable this morning. That's right. Thank you. You know what I mean? Well, there you have it. And their book is coming soon via Black Privilege Publisher. Love you, y'. All. Simon and Schuster. Love you more, sis. All right. Well, it's Rome. Yes, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's time for a positive note. What we got, positive note is simply this, man, be careful what you wish for others because it just might get to you. All right? To wish bad things for somebody else is actually like looking for something bad to happen to you. Because when you wish bad karma on somebody else, you bring bad karma on yourself. Okay? You are consuming and bringing in negative vibes into your life. Instead, be the person you wish they were. Be the person who brings only positive thoughts and good vibes lives into their own life. Because being negative yourself will only bring negative into your life. Don't poison yourself hoping somebody else will die. All right. Breakfast club. Wake you up. Wake that ass up. Program your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio. Did you know Microsoft has officially ended Support for Windows 10? Upgrade to Windows 11 with an LG Gram laptop. Voted PCMag's Reader's Choice. Top laptop brand for 2025. Thin and ultra lightweight, the LG Gram keeps you productive anywhere. And Windows 11 gives you access to free security updates and ongoing feature upgrades. Visit LGUSA.com iHeart for great seasonal savings on LG Gram laptops with Windows 11. PCMag Reader's Choice. Used with permission. All rights reserved. Ten athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and and mental breaking points.

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