The Breakfast Club BEST OF(Camron, Chris Gotti, Omarion Interview)

Summary

The Breakfast Club BEST OF: Cam’ron, Chris Gotti, Omarion Interview

Podcast: The Breakfast Club (iHeartPodcasts)
Release Date: January 2, 2026
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Lauren LaRose
Guests: Omarion, Cam’ron, Chris Gotti

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Overview

This "Best Of" episode compiles some of the most engaging interviews and moments from the past year on The Breakfast Club. The focus is on in-depth, candid conversations with Omarion, Cam’ron, and Chris Gotti, each sharing wisdom from their journeys in music, business, and personal growth. The tone is energetic, hilarious, and, at moments, deeply reflective—true to the show's spirit as "The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show."

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Key Segments (with Timestamps)

Listener Call-Ins and Banter

[04:00 – 10:16]

• Listeners call in to shout-out the hosts, discuss life pressures (like marriage and parenthood), and crack jokes.
• Fun discussion about childhood games with truckers and the meaning behind caller nicknames.
• The hosts riff on pressure to settle down and generational views, blending humor with relatable commentary.

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Interview: Omarion

[10:19 – 32:00]

Omarion's Daily Routine & The "Zen King" Mentality

• Affirmations & Self-Care: Omarion describes his morning—"Little moment to myself, you know what I'm saying? Shower up, get fresh. Say my affirmations. Put on my oud. I'm here." ([10:31])
• Staying Grounded: Explains his calm and zenful approach—"I don't take things personal." ([11:10])

Entering His 40s and Evolving as an Artist

• Celebrating 40: Omarion threw a Malibu birthday party for friends and family ([12:56]), marking a new chapter of maturity and self-expectation ([13:25]).
• On Growing Up in the Public Eye: Talks about being seen as the young star, wrestling for independence, and navigating peaks and valleys in his career ([16:03]).
  • "I finally feel like I've arrived to that place where, you know, I can have a say so and people understand it and respect it." ([13:57])

The Millennium Tour & Reflection on Fame

• Tour Format: Co-headlining with Trey Songz and Bow Wow, explaining the festival vibe and rotation of closers ([14:07]).
• Setlist Evolution: Inclusion of nostalgic and new acts, with Suprise inclusions like Boosie ([15:13]).
• Solo Anniversary: Celebrating 20 years of his solo career, intent on performing both classics and new tracks ([15:33]).

Relationships with B2K and Marcus Houston

• Omarion separates professional respect from personal distance: "We don't really have a relationship... there'll always be a type of love there." ([18:53])
• Fans still stick with him, and he acknowledges the unique, intense nature of fans who grew up with child stars ([26:49]).

On Collaborations and Industry Perspective

• Questions regarding future Bow Wow projects: "If I'm gonna do a collaborative, it's gonna be like, okay, new music, we working on new vibes." ([28:54])
• Praises for fellow child star Leon, discussing the longevity and adaptability of artists in music ([29:54]).

Lessons and Regrets

• Financial literacy advice Omarion would give his younger self: "I think about like life insurance policies, trusts... I wish I would have been given that game earlier on." ([30:44])

Memorable Moment

• Lighthearted roast about Drake "beating" Omarion in a dance battle at a birthday party ([31:32–31:56]).

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Interview: Cam’ron

[32:08 – 58:57]

The Rap Game & Music Industry

• On New Projects: Cam’ron talks about balancing music with other ventures and why full projects are rare for him—"If I'm gonna do a project, you're gonna get merchandise behind it. It's gonna be a tour behind it, everything else... But as far as doing an actual project, it'll be making financial sense for me." ([32:22])
• Cam'ron & Ma$e Dynamic: Collaborations depend on Ma$e’s unpredictable moods. "Me and Mase got like, 19 records. Wow. But I can't put them out. Like... He gets in the mood, and we gonna do. And then he be like, we not gonna do." ([33:36])

Building His Media Empire

• Podcast Origins: The ESPN-meets-the-hood vision; inviting Ma$e on led to a 50/50 partnership after a self-funded pilot ([37:16]).
• Empowering New Voices: Shouts out the young co-host Treasure, who brings generational balance and has her own show ([39:13]).

Viral Moments & Professionalism

• Adrien Broner Incident: Explains his protective move escorting the guest off after disrespect, describing it as a "little sister" moment and emphasizing respect ([41:22]).
  • Cam: "If you keep doing that, you disrespect to her. And then if I ask you to stop, you disrespecting me. So now you're really in my house and you disrespected me." ([42:01])

The Pink Horsepower Hustle

• Cam’ron details the origins and business behind his herbal supplement, emphasizing its natural roots and entrepreneurial success ([43:19]).
• "We've been doing this for four years. Probably made close to $10 million on it." ([44:31])

Legendary Pettiness & Entertainment Stories

• Omar Gooden Beef: Hilarious recount of escalating a misunderstanding into paid content, revealing Cam's business-minded and comedic side ([46:45]).

Stand-Up Comedy & Film

• Killa Comedy Show: Hosting a comedy event with big names like D Ray, Tony Rock—born from a collaboration with Joe Vessi ([49:29]).
• Movie Cameos: Recent cameo in "Happy Gilmore 2"; plans for more comedy and film projects ([50:13]).

On Relationships: Dame Dash, Jim Jones, and Diplomats

• Falling Out with Dame Dash: Cam outlines the deterioration, public airing of grievances, and his decision to disengage ([51:26, 55:25]).
• Diplomats Reunion? Not ruling it out, but "things just come to an end." Wishes them well nonetheless ([57:49]).

Business Acumen

• Pink Horsepower collab with Sexy Red for a joint men’s and women’s sex pill drop ([58:57]).

Notable Quotes

• "If what you build only benefits you, it's not big enough." (Lauren, [39:13])

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Interview: Chris Gotti

[63:40 – 89:34]

The Real Murder Inc. Story

• Origin: The label was born from Irv's ambition to be the biggest producer. Columbia/Sony offered a deal based on beat-making, which evolved into a record label upon inspiration from a gangster documentary ([64:21]).
• Rebranding: Pressure from Russell Simmons, Lyor Cohen, and federal investigators led to the dropping of "Murder" from the name ([64:11]).

Signing Ja Rule & Ashanti

• Ja Rule's Complicated Contract: Ja was initially signed to Def Jam; Murder Inc. had to buy him out—"we had to pay a couple million dollars." ([66:44])
• Ashanti’s Path: Ashanti was unsigned when "Foolish" became a hit; the label spent $5 million to secure her ([81:34]).

Health, Legacy, and Acceptance

• Chris shares candid stories about Irv’s health, stubbornness, and readiness for mortality—"We don't have. No one knows that expiration date." ([71:39]).
• Irv’s $300 million catalog sale was partly to ensure family stability ([70:26]).

Industry Fallout and Loyalty

• Navigating Beef: Chris describes how he mediated Irv’s feuds with Jay Z, Fat Joe, Nas, and others, focusing on the complexity of hip-hop alliances ([71:39]).
• Jay Z & Irv Gotti: Describes their close working relationship, strategic disagreements, and eventual drift ([72:24, 76:28]).
• Fat Joe Incident & Ashanti’s Loyalty: Discusses the emotional nature of Irv’s approach to relationships and his heartbreak with Ashanti ([78:15]), elaborating on the business and personal dynamics.

The Ashanti Rift

• Chris expresses hurt that Ashanti didn't reach out in person after Irv's passing, despite their pivotal support in her career ([80:36]):
  • "For her not to call me after her passing... that don't feel right. Her mother, Tina, that don't feel right..." ([80:36])

New Endeavors

• Chris Gotti discusses his new movie "Ballin’," starring Lance Stephenson and Safari, blending hip-hop and Latino culture ([87:13]).
• “I’m a filmmaker now. Look, Lance Stephenson is the Black Drake. He’s singing and rapping on the songs!” ([87:34])

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Notable Moments & Quotes

• On Artistic Growth:
  • Omarion: "I finally feel like I've arrived to that place where, you know, I can have a say so and people understand it and respect it." ([13:57])
• On Financial Literacy:
  • Omarion: "I think about like life insurance policies, you know, trusts, just certain things…if you wanted to take a break, you could." ([30:44])
• On Collaboration Challenges:
  • Cam’ron: "Me and Mase got like, 19 records...But I can't put them out. Like...He gets in the mood, and we going to do. And then he be like, we not going to do." ([33:36])
• On Virality and Protection:
  • Cam’ron: "If you keep doing that, you disrespect to her. And then if I ask you to stop, you disrespecting me. So now you're really in my house and you disrespected me." ([42:01])
• On Ashanti's Loyalty:
  • Chris Gotti: "She could say whatever she wants about a relationship…but she can’t lie about her career. She hated every hit record." ([86:10])

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Final Thoughts and Sign-Off

[89:17]
Lauren LaRose closes with a positive note:

"We cannot give what we do not have, okay? We cannot bring peace to the world if we ourselves are not peaceful. We cannot bring love to the world if we ourselves are not loving. So be the change you want to see on this planet, people."

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Conclusion

This "Best Of" episode shines for its mix of music business wisdom, vulnerable storytelling, and the signature candidness and wit that defines The Breakfast Club. Whether exploring personal resets at 40, the realities of hip-hop entrepreneurship, or navigating loyalty and loss in the industry, these interviews offer engaging entertainment and timeless insights for listeners tuning in or catching up.

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Advertisements and non-content segments omitted for clarity. Timestamps approximate based on the transcript.

Transcript

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[Lauren LaRose]

Wake you up.

[Just Blaze]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Program your alarm to power 105.1 on iheartradio.

[Just Blaze]

Good morning, USA.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Just Blaze]

What's up, Jess? And Larry Charlamagne, the guy.

[Lauren LaRose]

It's Friday.

[Just Blaze]

That's right, it's Friday. Happy New Year. And now, today's interviews is the best of show. Of course, we're on vacation. Today's interviews is Cameron and Chris Gotti. And of course, Chris Gotti's Irv Gotti's brother, one of the founders of Murder, Incs. And this is some of the the best interviews of the year.

[DJ Envy]

Ray. Ray.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Ray.

[Caller]

Yo, Charlamagne.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Envy. What up? Are we live?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Caller]

We can get on the phone right now.

[Omarion]

He'll tell you what it is.

[Lauren LaRose]

Hello?

[Just Blaze]

Who's this?

[Caller]

This is Walt Baby Love from Bridgeport, Connecticut.

[Just Blaze]

What's up, brother? What's going on with you?

[Caller]

Hey, listen, I just want to say God bless you, Charlemagne, and just hilarious, man, for what you do on a daily basis, man. It's not easy. And you don't get the. I want to give you your flowers while you're here, man. You guys help me every day, man. You put me in the right direction. You keep me safe. And I just want the positive vibe to come back to you guys on a daily basis, man. I love y', all, man.

[Lauren LaRose]

Hey, we love you, too, brother. Thank you.

[Caller]

You're welcome.

[Just Blaze]

Have a good one, brother.

[Caller]

You, too.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

Yo, what's up, y'?

[Radhi Devlukia]

All?

[Caller]

This Replay from Chicago.

[Just Blaze]

What up, Chantel?

[Lauren LaRose]

Replay, what's happening?

[Caller]

What up? What up, man? Look, I gotta give a shout out this morning to Lauren LaRosa, man. She been holding it down, man. She been coming with good news, good facts. Me and her the same age, man, and I just love seeing people my age just go hard and, man, baby girl, keep doing what you do. You know?

[Just Blaze]

That's what it is.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Thank you.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

I appreciate that.

[Caller]

No doubt, no doubt.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Charlemagne, why are we talking to you? What were you saying? King, Go ahead, finish.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go ahead, King.

[Caller]

Oh, yeah, man. Look, like I said, I'm Replay. If y' all want to follow me, I'm on Instagram at. Ladies love Replay.

[Lauren LaRose]

Why they call you Replay, bro?

[Caller]

Man, that's actually the name they gave me. I'm an R B singer, and I don't know, one of the guys. Replay. I'm like, all right, thanks. I want everybody to replay my song.

[Lauren LaRose]

Okay.

[Just Blaze]

All right, brother. Have a good one.

[Caller]

No doubt.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yeah, put a little more sauce on that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You got to come up with something better. Why they call you Replay? I don't know. You know what I mean? Because when I put it down, you know, ladies love it so much, they want to see it again. Something. You know what I mean? Like, just something.

[Caller]

Facts.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Excuse me.

[Caller]

I'm with it.

[DJ Envy]

He said facts.

[Lauren LaRose]

Oh, okay.

[Radhi Devlukia]

I didn't know.

[Lauren LaRose]

I thought he was telling me something else. I thought he was telling me he wasn't in the women.

[Radhi Devlukia]

I didn't know.

[Lauren LaRose]

I'm like, what? Excuse me.

[Just Blaze]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller]

This is Jay Meta.

[DJ Envy]

How's it going?

[Just Blaze]

Jay Meta, what's up? Get it off your chest. Jay Meta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning.

[Caller]

You know, I'm stressed. You know, I'm tired of people always asking you, you know, are you getting. No. When are you gonna get married? And I tell them, in a minute, dog. You know, they're always telling you when they're gonna get a new job. And I tell them, in a minute, dog. You know, everyone has their own pace, and they want to put you to a standard and do things, you know?

[Lauren LaRose]

How old are you?

[Caller]

Me, I just turned 30.

[Omarion]

That's why.

[Lauren LaRose]

I didn't know men get that kind of pressure. I didn't know men get this. That. That's not. That's usually pressure. That's reserved for women. I'm talking about the marriage part.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Do you have kids yet?

[Caller]

No. That's what I'm saying. They're gonna tell you why. Are you gonna have a kid? In a minute, dog.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

You know, how old are you?

[Caller]

I mean, I'm getting close to the age. You know, 30 is. You know, it's that.

[Lauren LaRose]

It's that point when they ask you, you know, when you're gonna get married, just be like, I'm in the men, dog. Just say something like that. You.

[Caller]

Yeah, that's what I told.

[Lauren LaRose]

That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.

[Just Blaze]

But definitely, if you got older parents, too, because older parents want grandparents, I'm sure. So that's what they ask me.

[Lauren LaRose]

Older parents want grandparents.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Guys by a certain age, if you don't have kids, they'd be like, girl, you're not married. They think something's wrong.

[Just Blaze]

All the parents want grandkids. That's what I meant.

[Lauren LaRose]

Well, you'll meet. You'll meet Mrs. Mr. Wright in due time.

[Just Blaze]

Mr. Or Mrs.

[Caller]

I'm sorry. Can you say that again?

[Lauren LaRose]

No. Have a good day, brother. Appreciate you.

[Caller]

Have a great day.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yes, sir.

[Just Blaze]

All right, brother, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is your time to get it off your chest Whether you're mad or.

[DJ Envy]

Blessed I hate the way that you walk the way that you talk I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hate the way that you dress Everything.

[Just Blaze]

With me is best call up next, 800-585-1051.

[Omarion]

Not just me, I'm with the culture feeling.

[Just Blaze]

Hello?

[Lauren LaRose]

Who's this?

[Caller]

Yo, it's Super Trucker. How you doing?

[Just Blaze]

What's up, Super Trucker?

[Lauren LaRose]

Talk to us, Trucker. I thought you said super sucker.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Guy.

[Caller]

Man, I called you guys about two months ago.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yes, sir.

[Caller]

And I sing. And look, man, I thought I did all right. But I asked my old lady, I said, yo, you hit me on the Breakfast Club. She was like, yeah, but you ain't listening. I was like, what you mean? She's like, envy asked you how did people get up with you? And you trying to plug a damn song?

[Lauren LaRose]

Damn. So she mad at you. She like, damn, you could have got on, you know? I mean, that could have been our taking out this truck.

[Caller]

Hey, look here, man. She from the Bronx, too. Charlemagne. So you know what I'm dealing with.

[Lauren LaRose]

She's crazy.

[Caller]

Can I. Can I take this time to tell people where they can find my music at, man?

[Just Blaze]

I get you to do it last time. But you ignored me.

[Caller]

I'm sorry, man. Look, you can find my [e-mail], man. I'm at Super Chuck on all of the platforms. Super Chuck of the artist on Tick Tock. And also have a show coming up at the tiny Chateau in Jacksonville, North Carolina, where I'll be performing alongside my man True Taylor.

[Lauren LaRose]

How long you had your CDL, brother?

[Caller]

21 years, man.

[Lauren LaRose]

Congratulations to you, King.

[Just Blaze]

You in the truck now.

[Caller]

Yes, sir.

[Just Blaze]

You know what I need.

[Lauren LaRose]

He needs to eat a.

[Caller]

Yes, sir.

[Lauren LaRose]

There we go.

[Just Blaze]

You be safe on them roads, Super Ch.

[Lauren LaRose]

All right, man.

[Caller]

I appreciate it, man. Y' all have a good one.

[Lauren LaRose]

Love to you, brother.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

I've never asked you this since I've been here. What does that do for you when they you.

[DJ Envy]

So as a kid, I'm going to explain it.

[Just Blaze]

So as a kid, my par know we couldn't afford airplane tickets, so we would drive everywhere. We would drive to Virginia beach, we would drive to Virginia, we drive to the Carolinas, we would drive to Miami or Florida.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Okay.

[Just Blaze]

And you know, back then it was. We didn't have Game Boys, nothing like that. So our fun would be to when we pass truckers, try to get them.

[Lauren LaRose]

To blow the horn.

[Just Blaze]

So that was like a game we played as a kid.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Oh, that's so cute. Okay.

[Just Blaze]

Yeah, so that's. That's what we did.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

I didn't know where that stem from.

[DJ Envy]

What?

[Lauren LaRose]

That's cute, man.

[Just Blaze]

So me and my cousin would be like, yo, yo, I got him, I.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Got him, I got him. He blowing me.

[Lauren LaRose]

So that's when you first started, like, getting guys attention, and you're making them do things for you.

[Just Blaze]

Women drive trucks too, sir.

[Lauren LaRose]

You ain't never seen no woman truck driver. I know that. You tell that whole life, I never.

[Just Blaze]

Did get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the event, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, everybody.

[Just Blaze]

Just hilarious Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yes, sir.

[Just Blaze]

Omarion, welcome back.

[Lauren LaRose]

The good brother.

[Omarion]

Oh, hey. Hey.

[Lauren LaRose]

What was the routine this morning, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did you do?

[DJ Envy]

Did you wake up?

[Lauren LaRose]

Pray? Meditation?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was it?

[Omarion]

Well, little moment to myself, you know what I'm saying? Shower up, get fresh. Say my affirmations. Put on my oud. I'm here.

[Lauren LaRose]

What was your intention for today?

[Omarion]

To just have a good time, you know what I'm saying? Not put too much on it, you know what I'm saying? You are known as the Zen king, like, how do you stay so tranquil.

[DJ Envy]

Like, so zenful through everything?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, you don't let nothing bother you.

[Omarion]

Yo, I done came at you so many times. This man, he said, yeah, let's nothing get to him. I'm trying to get to him. I'm intentional. Yeah. And also, I don't take things personal.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

You know what I'm saying?

[Just Blaze]

The wild thing is, you know, Omarion, I just looked it up. Omarion is 40 years old.

[Omarion]

Crazy.

[Just Blaze]

We've been seeing him grow up.

[Lauren LaRose]

He's still, I don't know, like, Omarion, 40, I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

You still got baby hair.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRose]

That's a blessing. It is.

[Just Blaze]

So people still look at you as a. Like a young. I can't say teen, but. Right. A young 20 year old, because that's what you look like.

[Omarion]

Yeah. Well, I mean, it does confuse people sometimes, but Yeah. I think I made it to unk status at this. At this point in time, you ain't gonna get.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So.

[Omarion]

So why is.

[Lauren LaRose]

You can't be up with Baby head. No, no.

[Omarion]

The Millennium tour is back. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm super excited about it. We played barclays on the 21st, so if you ain't got your ticket, definitely pop out. It's a moment. It's a moment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What keeps you doing all this?

[Omarion]

After all, he is like, what keeps you doing? Doing this?

[Just Blaze]

He's still doing flips and dancing. Like, what, you twist your ankle, it's gonna take a long time to heal.

[Omarion]

No, actually I have a routine of making sure that I, you know, stay energized. I'm a performer, so it's important that I take care of my body. But the Millennium tour, you know, is a series concert that has brought nostalgic literally back on the planet. You know, my era and my time. I'm so happy to been a part of it because, you know, it brings you back to a memory and creates a new memory at the same time, you know, so I'm excited. Yeah, we. We keeping it going. We keeping that energy going.

[Lauren LaRose]

Can I ask you what 40 felt like? I remember how I felt when I turned 40. Yeah. Where were you? What were you doing? How did it feel? Because to me, it felt like I really entered a new dimension when I turned 40.

[Omarion]

Yeah. So I usually don't do anything for myself and shout out to Janine, who helped me put together my birthday party, but I had a birthday party in Malibu and it was such an amazing gathering. You know, all of my friends came out, my family. So I did something for myself, you know, which was throw a party. It was a lot of beautiful people in the building, so that's what I did for my birthday.

[Lauren LaRose]

Did you feel like yourself going into a different level of consciousness?

[Omarion]

For sure. A different level of maturity, a certain level of expectation for myself. The things that I'm creating now, you know, why am I still doing it? I definitely feel like I've arrived because, you know, I'm one of the few entertainers that has grown up in the public eye. So growing up has, you know, been a challenge at some times in my career. You know what I mean? So I finally feel like I've arrived to that place where, you know, I can have a say so and people understand it and respect it.

[Just Blaze]

So now, how do y' all figure out who closes the Millennium Tour? Like, who closes that show? You got so many artists on there, right? And you're one of the originators on that tour. So who closes the Millennium Tour?

[Omarion]

Well, it is a cold headline, you know, myself, Trey and Bao. So it's kind of meant to be like a festival vibe. You know, any real performer artist will tell you sometimes it's not best to close the show because, you know, the energy is drained. You know, you kind of want to go maybe second, you know, the last. So for me, yeah, I don't really trip off of that, but, yeah, that's how we decide between us and the promoters.

[Just Blaze]

So how do you headline? So is it like you do two, then you jump and do two, then Trey jumps in and do two.

[Omarion]

Exactly.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

Maybe Trey will close, and then me and Bow will swap in between, you know, him going last before Trey or maybe going last before Trey. So. Yeah, so I know before, you know, the Millennium tour, it was B2K. Why not? Yeah. This run. Well, this one was kind of more so framed for this class. You know, all the. If you look at the, you know, who's on there now, it's a lot of non millennium, you know, artists. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think it's so cool that Boosie's gonna be on there, you know?

[Radhi Devlukia]

I mean.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

Applies. I think we're gonna get some special guests as well. Yeah, exactly. The whole vibe. So it's kind of, I would say, a little bit different than, you know, like the previous years. So. Yeah, that's. That's how. So are we getting all the O? Like the. Yeah, we get the classic.

[DJ Envy]

No skip.

[Omarion]

We get in the classics. So we getting that. Yeah, we get in the classes. It's actually, my 20th year anniversary of putting in being a solo artist. Yeah, time is flying. Yeah. So, yeah, we get into classics and also I'll be introducing some new music. You know, I mean, I got some new music, some new slaps. I'm gonna be performing as well.

[Lauren LaRose]

So you said something that was interesting. You said growing up for you was a challenge. Why was growing up a challenge? Did you mean personally or professionally?

[Omarion]

Both. Oh, just because, you know, when you're young and people see you young and you don't change much, you know, I mean, like physically, you know, because I take care of myself, you know, people tend to just, you know, put you where they thought that you were, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's been a challenge in that way. And also in business, you know, just really being able to, like, have a say. So and then I just be like, okay, well, you're a kid, you know, I mean, any child stars will tell you, you know, having a foot in control in their business is a struggle when you start young.

[Lauren LaRose]

When did that change? Like, when did people start saying, okay, this is Omarion, the grown man, not the kid from B2K?

[Omarion]

I think once I really started taking full responsibility for my independence, you know, trying different things, I think that, you know, when you're in the industry for a long time, it is peaks and valleys, you know, you're not going to have 10 hot moments. You know, I'm saying you might have a down moment, you might have a transitional moment. I think that it's okay, you know, when you're finding your way. And I feel like after my last, like, couple of projects, you know, just supporting myself, being independent, like, I started to feel like, okay, now I have control of my career. Oh, I want to put this out. Okay, maybe I should put it out this way. You know, maybe I should do things differently. You know, I grew. I grew into that. So I'm like, very proud of that, you know, because a lot of artists don't get the chance to do that.

[Lauren LaRose]

That's true. And nobody talks about that, right? Like, nobody talks about when you're red hot and then there's an ice box where your career used to be. You know what I mean? I mean, I don't feel like you've ever been through that because you always on the road.

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've been gifted, you know, with the talent to be able to do many things. Like two years ago, I believe the last time we spoke, you know, I was promoting my book. So there's Always something for me to do. Something new that I just did that's really exciting is a show called the Wild Rose with all black. So I'm going to be, you know, hitting your TVs in 2026. I play an assassin, so it's something different.

[DJ Envy]

First of all.

[Omarion]

Yeah, I'm doing fighting scenes. I'm shocking and popping, so you will be seeing me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

King is now an assassin.

[Omarion]

I mean, you know, I'm acting, right? But, you know, the real true measure of an actor is to tell the truth. You know what I'm saying? So get to show a different side of myself. I'm excited about that.

[Lauren LaRose]

I feel like that's a natural transition for all you flexible guys. Like you, Chris Brown, should be doing action movies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Omarion]

Whooping ass. What is your relationship now with B2K? I always will honor, you know, my group, my foundation, and, you know, where I come from as far as personally, you know, we don't really have a relationship.

[Lauren LaRose]

None of them.

[Omarion]

Not. Not really. You know, I will say that bud did come to one of my shows, and we chopped it up, you know, so there'll always be a type of love there. You know, we grew up together, and, yeah, you know, we. We did something in all of our lives that no one in our lives did, you know, I mean, so I think that there's always an honor system there, you know, not to speak negatively ever. And you'd just be like, yeah, you know, that was that. Did you guys know each other before.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The group started or you guys were.

[Omarion]

Bought together as the group?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's.

[Omarion]

We were brought together as the group. Yeah. The first time I met them, it was at a New Year's Eve party, and they performed and I performed, and it was like, you want to be the lead singer? I was like, yeah, so. So, yeah, yeah. And what about you and Marcus Houston? Are y' all close or.

[DJ Envy]

No?

[Omarion]

Okay, got you. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

I don't know why we thought y' all was real brothers, you know, that was our thing.

[Omarion]

That was our thing back then, you know? I mean, anybody that was a part of the camp was fam. You know, that's like, oh, that's my cousin. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, no real blood time.

[Lauren LaRose]

You were one of the few people who probably experienced real celebrity, Right? Because I don't feel like there's real celebrity no more. Everybody is celebrity now.

[Omarion]

That's true.

[Lauren LaRose]

Like, y' all had to, like, run from crowds, be ducked off in disguise.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

How did that feel? And was it Hard to when you.

[Omarion]

Weren'T feeling it anymore, you know, it was amazing to, you know, look back on it. There was some times where, you know, I think Bug got hurt. He got lifted up into a crowd. It was like dangerous, you know, I mean, because five little strong girls is stronger than the biggest man, you know, I mean, but looking back on that time and having it, you know, be a part of my experience as far as the organic, you know, energy between you and your fans was amazing. And when it changed, it changed. Not just for me, for everyone. You know, I think you still have a little bit of a fandom still today, but it's viewed different. It's almost like, are you okay? Why are you screaming?

[Lauren LaRose]

Are you okay?

[Omarion]

You know, I still, I still receive that love, you know, no matter where I'm at on the planet, people still come up to me and be like, wow, my childhood. Can I take a picture with you? So I always appreciate, you know, the influence that I've had on people's life experience through music.

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[Radhi Devlukia]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Omarion]

About is forgetting everything. I never used to forget things.

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[Radhi Devlukia]

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[Just Blaze]

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[Omarion]

You know, the shade is always shadiest right here.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

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[Omarion]

With Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Omarion]

And, you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay. The sign says, my neighbor is a Karen.

[Lauren LaRose]

No way.

[Omarion]

I died laughing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, I have to know. You are lying.

[DJ Envy]

Humongous, y'.

[Radhi Devlukia]

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[Omarion]

Podcasts through movies through. So, yeah, I. I don't feel no way about it. You know, I definitely feel like, you know, a sort of an elder on the scene, you know, I mean, that has had all the experiences.

[Lauren LaRose]

So it's just different when you got the. When you were a child star.

[Omarion]

That's what I'm saying.

[Lauren LaRose]

That. That, I guess that kid fan base, you know, like, they. They're. They act different.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

Than everybody else, period.

[Omarion]

And those fans are still with me to today. I. I'm. I'm so thankful for those fans that stuck with me because we're able to put on the millennium tour. We're able to, you know, bring that nostalgia back on the planet, which, by the way, before the millennium tour, you know, that wasn't the show. That wasn't the, you know, the set list for, you know, all of these productions. You know, I mean, to have a little bit nostalgia in your production, it, you know, is. Is a great thing.

[Just Blaze]

What was the craziest story that you.

[Omarion]

Remember as a child? A girl being in our room before we got there. You know, the security would have to, like, check the room. I always thought that was weird because, you know, nobody know what Room.

[Just Blaze]

How would they.

[Omarion]

Girl sitting in there crouching down. Soon as we walk and we like, oh, yeah, it was a green room. Or like a. It was a green room. And then on my personal room, we, like, one of the workers just let themselves in. And I was like, half sleep, and I woke up like, what are you doing?

[DJ Envy]

Was a girl, she was trying to.

[Omarion]

Gather, and she was like, hey. She was trying to gather you. I'm like, while I'm asleep? No. What are you doing, though? You gotta go, man.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was when it was, like, a little scary.

[Just Blaze]

That's when you was a kid?

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Just Blaze]

Jesus Christ.

[Lauren LaRose]

Did you find that your fans grew with you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Omarion]

Okay. Yes. A lot of them. I mean, a lot of them still, you know, still pop up to the shows and come to the meet and greets and everything. So. Yeah, yeah. Girls I grew up with, from New York City, they knew who they are. You know what I mean? Still come to my shows. They got kids, got. Got work, all kind of stuff.

[Lauren LaRose]

So you ever bring any of the kids and they got baby hairs and, you know, long.

[Omarion]

Yeah. I say, what's up to their kids. Kids named after me?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Just Blaze]

Named after you?

[Lauren LaRose]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

Kids named after me and everything. Like, yeah, it's. It's. It's a few kids out there named after Omarion.

[Lauren LaRose]

Do they look like Omari?

[Omarion]

No, no, no.

[Lauren LaRose]

Could they be kids for real?

[Omarion]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[Just Blaze]

Are they dancing at the Ghost at the meet and greets?

[DJ Envy]

That's what you're asking?

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah.

[Radhi Devlukia]

No, no, no.

[Lauren LaRose]

Okay.

[Omarion]

No, I haven't met any of those yet, but I'm pretty sure that I've, you know, inspired some kids out there.

[Lauren LaRose]

What about Bow Wow? You think you and Bow Wow ever do a join album again?

[Omarion]

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I feel like if I'm gonna do, you know, any collaboration, whether it be rapper, singer, I feel like they have to have, like, current music out. You know what I'm saying? Music that and. And, you know, current music of the last maybe three to three years. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, if I'm gonna do a collaborative, it's gonna be like, okay, new music, we working on new vibes.

[Lauren LaRose]

Why is that? Just because you feel like, you know, if you made music in the last three years, you actually care. You're active.

[Omarion]

Yeah, you're active. You know, I mean, like, you know, what's, you know, as far as producers, you know, I mean, like, what does that look like? And also I feel like you, you have a, like a better shot at putting something out, you know, like visuals. I think that today's artists, like, there's so many things that you have to do in order to, you know, really be visible. You know what I mean? So I would want someone as, not just, you know, visible, you know, on social media, but like in the music too.

[Lauren LaRose]

I feel like you and Leon will cook up together.

[Omarion]

Oh, yeah, that would be dope. That would be dope.

[Lauren LaRose]

Have you ever reached out to Leon?

[Omarion]

No, no, no, not yet. But we've crossed paths. Yeah, we crossed paths. I love to see what he's doing, you know, I mean, like he's, he's actually a child star too. You know, he's someone that started very, very young. So to see where he's at today is just, it's awesome. I feel like that's, you know, it's very rare to see a lot of child stars continue on and continue to transform. And that's what I've always loved about music is you don't have to stop or you don't have to essentially get old. You know, you can pick up a, you know, a flute, you know, you can pick up an instrument, you can write, you can direct. You know, it's so much to do in our business.

[Lauren LaRose]

What's the one thing you wish you knew when you first started your career? When 40 year old Omarion, what would he tell 16 year old Mario?

[Omarion]

I think about like life insurance policies, you know, trusts, you know, just certain things that, you know, if you wanted to take a break, you could, you know, I'm saying that's something that I feel like, you know, finances. I just, I wish I would have, you know, been given that game earlier on. I felt like, you know, maybe I would move differently, you know, if I had that. But, you know, everything is for a reason. So.

[Just Blaze]

Yeah, definitely. Check them out on Tour, Millennium Tour, 2025.

[Omarion]

What's the date we at the Barclays? March 21st. Y' all pop out.

[Lauren LaRose]

No, March 17th.

[Omarion]

Oh, it's March 17th.

[Lauren LaRose]

That's what it says here.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know, maybe changed for my.

[Omarion]

City because I know Baltimore and then Barclays is the next day. March 17th. Thank y' all so much.

[Just Blaze]

And just side note, we've seen Drake beat you in the dance battle too.

[Lauren LaRose]

Drake.

[Just Blaze]

Him and Drake had a dance battle and Drake killed him.

[Lauren LaRose]

I don't, I don't believe that. I didn't even see that. But I know, I know that destroyed.

[DJ Envy]

Him at his birthday party. Oh, he Was at a birthday party.

[Omarion]

I was keeping it light.

[Just Blaze]

Light skin. We up one.

[Lauren LaRose]

I don't believe that happened. It was your birthday party.

[Omarion]

No, it was his.

[Lauren LaRose]

Oh, okay. Okay, okay.

[Omarion]

All right.

[Just Blaze]

Well, it is. It's the Breakfast Club of Mariana.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Just Blaze]

Morning, everybody.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

It's DJ Envy.

[Just Blaze]

Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. La Rose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

[Lauren LaRose]

One of the most hustling mothers I ever met in my life.

[Just Blaze]

Ladies and gentlemen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kill us.

[Lauren LaRose]

Cameron is here.

[DJ Envy]

What's good, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How y' all been, Killer? Good morning, everybody. How you doing?

[Just Blaze]

How you feeling, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Reggae man. Good to be back. I ain't been up here in a little minute.

[Just Blaze]

Before we go anywhere, I just gotta ask one question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Just Blaze]

Are you gonna do another project, man? Cause you play too much. You rap and then you stop, then you spit, then you stop. Then somebody pisses you off and you rap. And I'm like, killa. Still got it. Just do a project, Killer.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, for what? Nah, Pre. Now, of course, you know, you my brother. I appreciate that. But it don't be making financial sense. Like, if I'm gonna do a project, you're gonna get merchandise behind it. It's gonna be a tour behind it, everything else. But, you know, I do the freestyles on my show and here and there. But as far as doing an actual project, it'll be making financial sense for me. Like, you see me rapping, my age, it's only a few who could really go on tour who's my age. We just thinking in their brain, they're doing a lot, but they're not really doing what they think they're doing. Because when you. Like, for me, I was on tour up until 2020 when Kobe hit, I was on tour, and I just didn't go back on tour after that. But every. Every tour, I had something lined up. Not just the show. It was behind it. I keep the freestyle. As far as doing the album. Albums be lasting. Like, a great album is like two weeks. You know what I'm saying? Like, that. I'm talking about a great one. Last two, three weeks.

[Lauren LaRose]

But even, like an ep, just you and me. Killing murders.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look, look, Me and Mace got some. Now, I would do that. Me and mace got like, 19 records. Wow. But I can't put them out. Like. Like, I feel like my hands is tied with this. He'll get in the mood and he'd be like, we gonna come out. Then he'd be like, nah, just wait. And it don't come out. I could play it for y' all when nobody listening. Listen him. But Mace is really, really nice.

[Lauren LaRose]

What's his reputation?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I can't tell you, all right? I'm like. He's like. He gets in the mood, and we going to do. And then he be like, we not going to do. And what we got going on now is too good to even question it. You know what I'm saying?

[Just Blaze]

So y. Y. The worst two slick talkers out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But on some G. Could y' all hear me do the freestyle? Ma, like, dumb.

[DJ Envy]

Nice, get busy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not like. No, I'm talking about, you know, you ain't hearing really rapping alone. Nice, nice. Like a real, real problem. I don't want to say he's better than me. I want to say that he's right underneath.

[Lauren LaRose]

Now, we saw the one where he spit on it, is what it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I forced him to beg, like, too much for that to happen. But. But do you know what a problem is for me? He sends me this. Well, I told him, just stop sending me because I'm getting frustrated. He do. I think he do this to tease me, to be honest with you. Okay, I'm listening to this. Listen to this. And this never comes out. But I think he does it for therapy. He makes too much of a money. Besides what we do. Mace makes a lot of money, I think. I don't like. I don't want to say that, but music isn't a priority. I wish it's the priority.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

I saw you tell Memphis Bleak that Mace told you that. If you and Jewels in music or you and him even do anything that y' all put out, it has to be like a moment because of all that. What would that moment, if y'. All, hypothetically speaking, if it did happen, what would that moment be? Is it a.

[Lauren LaRose]

All performance?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anything we do together? Like, Mace, like, if we get booked together. Mason moved for less than a hundred thousand. For him, that's just being nice. Like, he just don't move. He do too much. Other to where he's like, cam, if I'm not getting 100, I don't even call him if it ain't like 200,000. Because he doesn't. He doesn't care. Like, he really doesn't like what he got going on. He doesn't care about doing anything else. So I be like, yo, Mace. Yo, listen, so and so want to book us for, like, 125,000? He's like, you want to take 25? And I'm like, nah, Nah, he's like, scam. You have to realize there's a moment when we're together. We haven't been speaking for 25 for 10 years. Why would we take that money? I'm like, mace, it's just a look. It's not a good look. So more of the story is he basically says, we haven't been speaking for a while. We getting older. Everything that we need to do needs to count. So kind of like when you heard me say that with you, Wells, same thing. Juels has sent me into a record. Sent a record for me to do, probably five, six months, maybe longer than that. And it was a good record, but it was like, you gotta be spectacular. We ain't do a song in 15 years. So that's kind of what you.

[Just Blaze]

How did you and Mace get back together? For people that don't know, because it was. Y' all were going back and forth.

[Lauren LaRose]

For years, and then Gillian Wallow, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, absolutely. Shout out to Gillian Wallow. He went on Gillian Wallow show to. I guess this artist was saying that Mace was stealing from him or whatever. And when he was up there, he just was like. He basically, like, shouted me on the cool way. He's like. Because, you know, he did a diss record, and it was kind of. It was crazy. The oracle dissing me. He's like, I didn't really want to do that to Kim. And I was like. But he said in the cool. He's like, cam's my man. Then I went on Gillian Wallow. And then we talked, and then when we spoke, we spoke, and we just kept it moving, but all because of Gillian Wallow, basically.

[DJ Envy]

Click.

[Just Blaze]

So, well, and how'd the show come together from there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So the show actually came together. We supposed to do a tour after we got cool, me, him, and Jada. That didn't work out. And so many people were inviting me to do podcasts. Like, yo, Cam, do a podcast. When you gonna do a podcast? And I'm like, I don't really want to talk to for a living. You know what I'm saying? Like, because, like, I don't want to have to talk to nobody, but I do like sports. So I look at the phone I'm arguing with. Every time I hang the phone up, it's say, two and a half hours of me arguing with a about sports. So I was like, maybe this is something I want to do. And I built a stage. I got to stay on stage. I built my own setup, and I said, I'm gonna do ESPN meets The hood. So that's why we suits on the show. But it was a professional setting. And then after that, I invited Mace on the show as a guest, and he's like, cam, what's going on? So I'm just shooting this. I said, I got a budget. I'm gonna reach this budget and see if this bike pause. And he's like, you want to be partners? I'm like, after I get my money back on what I spent, we could go 50, 50. And he's like, I bet. So we did about 10 shows, and a bunch of people called. So we ended up doing, like, 30 shows and ended up getting a really good deal. But after I did, like, five shows, he's like my fifth guest, and he's like, we partners. Because I have nobody consistent doing it anyway. So that's how I came together.

[Lauren LaRose]

I think y' all smoking, man. I think everything that y' all done in the media space, but it is what it is in the talk with Flee. I think y' all smoking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah. Appreciate that. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it, man. It's all natural. It's all fun. And kind of me and Mace relationship is like, just picking up. Cause the we be talking about just regular high school. After high school, you gotta realize a lot of our public life was publicized. So Mace got his deal at 21. I got my deal at 21. So a lot of y' all seen music wise has been since we 21 years old, so.

[Lauren LaRose]

And I also say, you know, if.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You whatever, but thank you for that.

[Lauren LaRose]

If what you build only benefits you, it's not big enough. I love the way that you've empowered somebody like Treasure, you know what I'm saying? And I know you got, like, a whole production team there, and she has.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Like, a network or something of her own where she can share content.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, she has her own show. It's called Check out the stat. And whatever she wants to do, she's able to do. We don't hold anybody up. We don't stop nobody from doing what they could do, what they want to do. She's big in the streaming world. You know, I'm not really twitching and all that. Like, she's big with Kasanai and her boyfriend's a streamer and everything else. But she just turned 24 years old, so it's really dope to have a dynamic of her being on the show because we tease her about we don't know, and then she turn it back on us like, y' all don't know this, so it's good. Different generations being on the show, but definitely she has a bunch of. She has going on. But her show is called.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Check out the step in the moment with her, you and Adrienne Bronner. That went viral. That like we had a conversation about it up here. And when I watched the moment, I. I was so appreciative of it. And I'm not her. Just because I know what it's like to not be able to like kind of say things or whatever. When that went super viable, people were reacting to it. How did you feel watching it? Because it was a natural thing for you to just do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't really watch the shows, to be honest with you. We do them five days a week and I keep it moving, so I didn't really. I never watched it. But it's in the moment. You're accent, like in the moment. See a lot of things y' all didn't see. We. We don't. We don't go live. We pre record. So I stopped the show like six, seven times and asked him to stop. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like just once. It was like six, seven times. Because I know Adrian, bro, and I have a relationship with him. I kept asking him to stop and he was like, oh, my bad. More my bad, bro. And he wouldn't stop.

[Omarion]

You look so good in person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

I appreciate that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, what?

[Omarion]

You wasted that.

[DJ Envy]

I love you.

[Omarion]

I'm sorry.

[Lauren LaRose]

My bad, y'.

[Omarion]

All.

[DJ Envy]

My bad.

[Omarion]

Hey, Stack, could you stop smack.

[DJ Envy]

Can you stop smiling?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, yo, bro. I told you that.

[Just Blaze]

My bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So basically I just asked him to leave. You know, I didn't really want. It was some of the parts that I wish would have got edited to where when I came back and I was kind of frustrated and I said some about him afterwards, which I didn't want to air, but that was just pure frustration. But in the moment, that's like my little sister, you know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, if you keep doing that, you disrespect to her. And then if I ask you to stop, you disrespecting me. So now you're really in my house and you disrespected me. So I paid him for his time and accidentally, like I said, it ain't like he's a stranger. I know who he is. And we got some mutual friends as well, so. But in the moment, it was just this disrespectful because it isn't like we asked you to stop.

[Lauren LaRose]

Several times he apologized, and people were mad at you because they was like, yo, you. I guess they caught you saying something like, why you ain't saying his face?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I was talking about. I mean, I was saying that because when I sat back down, I was like, I hate this. I don't really want to repeat what I said. He's like, basically, yo, Cam, this down the third. Why'd you. Why'd you say that? It was purely out of frustration. That's like saying, if y' all walk me out now and then you sit down, you don't know. I didn't sit down for the edit. And then you like, yo, this. You know what I'm saying? I said a little more than that, but it's like, that part should have been cut out. But it wasn't about saying that to his face. I said it to his face. I walked over to him and actually escorted him out. It wasn't about a fighting situation for me or nothing like that. Just more of a. I think he was a little intoxicated, and he just need to be escorted up.

[Lauren LaRose]

He held himself accountable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He apologize? Yes, my guy.

[Just Blaze]

So any artist that comes up there that talks to your coach, you gonna pay him out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thing about it is, I'm not going. Terence Crawford's there. I'm not walking up on Terence Crawford. I'm not walking up. But it's security there. It ain't just us in there. It's other people in the. That's outside the studio. So it isn't just randomly me just putting these out, but I feel me and him was cool enough for me to do that.

[Lauren LaRose]

And I'm glad you bought that pink horse pop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

Because I'm. I can't order it discreetly. I don't think so. I'm glad that you brought it up here.

[Omarion]

Yo, what is it?

[DJ Envy]

I thought it was edible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Saying, what is it?

[Lauren LaRose]

She thought to take one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. She could take one for a man. So basically.

[Just Blaze]

And they deliver, too, by the way, you call it.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRose]

Talk about the honey pack back in the day.

[Omarion]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Honey pack give you a headache.

[Just Blaze]

This don't get no headache.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, this. This is all natural, Ambassador. Yeah, it's all natural. It's from Africa.

[Just Blaze]

Is it from Africa?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna show you the video like, so you can see exactly where I went to get it. Because the thing about it is this. So they have this in the city, different places. But what happens is I know people in Senegal, and it comes in on the boat. And what happens is when it's on the boat, they water it down. They double or double down, so it's more when it gets here. And basically, I keep on the boat for two months to watch our stocks so that we make sure we have the highest potency of it. But it's all natural. Leaves, roots, trees, and we just got the best product. It works. We've been doing this for four years. Probably made close to $10 million on it.

[Lauren LaRose]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's been really, really good. My man Sugar Digger basically runs everything right now with that. But it's been really well. And the thing about we have reoccurring customers coming back. I guarantee it. Like Frank Lucas said, I guarantee it. Like, it's really gonna work. But Jessa asked me, how long.

[DJ Envy]

How long does it take?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said 10 minutes. I said I wouldn't go. Do that and go to the mall, Hang out with your mom. Nothing else. Take that when it's time to go in. It works really fast.

[Lauren LaRose]

It don't make your heartbeat crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, everything is good. You see every note natural.

[Lauren LaRose]

You never said nothing.

[Just Blaze]

That's not a conversation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're gonna have to be honest with you. I don't want to say too much because. But it has good health effects as well.

[Just Blaze]

Now, I tell everybody Cam is one of the pettiest people I know, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Just Blaze]

I said, between cam and 50, they are the two pettiest people I've ever seen in my life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Trying to do better, though.

[Just Blaze]

No, you're not. What happened with Omar Gooden? So you trying to do better after that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See, don't be knowing the backstory. So, like, right, Omar Good and Palmy again. I was on my show talking about B list actors. Black. Black actors. No disrespect to him, but we all know his brother Cuba's the biggest star. And basically, I said, Omar Gooden Jr. And he went off. He went crazy. And because I hired him before for a movie, I did, like, 2011, 2012 percentage. I did a movie with Queen Latifah and Shaqim, Shout out to Queen Latifah, shot Kim, and we hired them. So in my segment of my show, I'm like, yo, it's up for the B class black actors. Because you got to sit here and wait for somebody to call you for a part, or if they do, who says you're going to get the part? Like, just sitting around and waiting. I was actually talking to Rich Paul, and he's like, them should have came up with a network by now. All came together, you know what I'm saying? But I basically was telling y', all, telling him, saying what I'm telling y' all now, right? And I called him Omar Gooding Jr. And he just went crazy. He was like, how the am I junior when Cuba's the junior? You disrespecting. You don't call a man out his name. This down the third. So I'm like, I got him on this page. I said, you can look at the dates. I said, my bad, bro. I didn't mean to offend you. No, no problem. Nah. That. Then he started doing diss records.

[Just Blaze]

And I was like, his rapping wasn't bad, though. His rap wasn't that bad.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

It was all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I put it on his face. I said, this type hot. I wrote that on his comments. I'm like, yo, I don't want no smoke, bro.

[DJ Envy]

This.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is dope. So did another one. I'm like, I bet. So I know how much you cost, bro. You know what I'm saying? So I had a mutual friend. I was like, yo, when you. I haven't used them pause in a while. How much are you booking for you? Like, when I need a movie scene, I pay him 1200. So I got three. I got 3000 for the. And that's how that went because he wouldn't stop doing records. And I already said I didn't want a problem.

[Just Blaze]

So you said, I'm gonna come up with a fake movie.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, Fake script.

[Just Blaze]

So you have to proceed to Patty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but what happened is he signed the paperwork, and so let's just say I. I paid every three. I gave him $3,000 because I knew he wouldn't say no because he gets 1200. So I said 3000. His flight was what, 7, 800? And so let's just say I spent 5000. So once he signed the paperwork, I'm getting 10 times that for the episode. So I win. I spent five. But I made 45 offer gotcha off of his stupidity for me telling you, I don't want no problem with you, but you won't stop. So now I'm gonna give you 5 and make 45 and this content at the same time.

[Just Blaze]

So you was really in the other room watching and directing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was in another room, but I had a ring camera up around the corner at one of my cribs, watching the whole. The whole time.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

And he was trying to say that he was going to take legal action. Is that possible? Or, like, because what documents did you have him sign or like, whatever, Adam.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So basically, my man, who actually they shot my man Bibi. One of my production companies, Partners of one of my production companies. We basically had him sign everything. And what he was trying to say, he's going to take legal action about everything was cool. But the dressing room. But he didn't realize what he signed was once you walk in, we could use security footage, ring footage, everything that we wanted to use once you walked in the building, any camera we wanted to use. And what I did was he. We gave him fifteen hundred dollars up front. And when he came, I made sure the other 1500 was in tens and files. So it looked like he got a lot of money. So when he gave him. He gave him the night he was. I knew he would just sign anything because, you know when it looked. Pause when it looked like it's a lot.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So we paid him like tens and five. So it looked like he had 20,000 when it was just $1500.

[Lauren LaRose]

I don't know why you waited so long to do the killer computer comedy show. And I don't know why you're not on stage.

[Caller]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just don't be bothering people. And then I'll be like, yo, leave me alone. Because I know where I could go with it. And this is what happens now.

[Just Blaze]

Tell us about this comedy show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thanks. Thanks for even bringing that up. We got the killer comedy show.

[Just Blaze]

It's today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tonight. It's tonight. At the Beacon Theater. At the Beacon Theater. Shout out. My man Johnny Ship's in the building. He's the one that put everything together. D Ray's gonna be there. Jay Fowl's gonna be there. Tony Rock, Corey Holcomb. Yeah, sorry, I don't know if y' all still beefing. Will Mills and Ray Ray.

[Omarion]

So Jay Farrell, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So.

[Lauren LaRose]

And Ferg performing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fergus performing as well. Definitely y' all are all welcome to come. I don't know what you guys are doing, but y' all more than welcome to come. But we actually put that together because I did. I got a cameo in a movie. Happy Gilmore, too.

[Lauren LaRose]

Oh, yeah?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. How did that come about? So, yeah, Joe Vessi, he's a comedian and writes with Adam Sandler. He's a big fan. He's the one that kind of got us in the movie. Adam Sandler is my man too.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he has a stand up and he wants me to put it out. I guess he's not going through the right channels. And I'm like, Johnny, like I said, we're gonna put that out. But he was like, let's just do a whole comedy show. We got with Outback they sponsored. That's how I doing. So we gonna go on tour with it. That's that easy. But shout out to Joe Vessi for even giving me the idea to want to do it.

[Lauren LaRose]

Oh, salute to Joe. That's my man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

What, what made you want to get into comedy now? Because you always been funny, right? Always.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm beyond it was Joe Vessi. Okay, I'm not even gonna say and hold you when he said he had us. So he has a stand up that's done. And he just wanted to put it into my lap and say, cam, do what you can do with it. And I'm like, he's not on this show. Because paperwork kind of took a while. But it was purely when he had a stand up. And I'm like, I'm gonna find a home for it. But why not put a show together after that? That's kind of. It's really totally Joe Vessi that gave me the idea to put a comedy.

[Lauren LaRose]

Show together, you know? You know, you know his dad, Peter Vest, he's one of the best sports commentators ever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Joe Vessi's like a street basketball player and all that too, man. So shout out to him. That's how I came about dope. No more, no less, man.

[Just Blaze]

I gotta ask. Where did the friction with you and Dame come from? How did that happen?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Just Blaze]

Dame like he was a manager partner with you at one time, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dame like. Dame did a lot for me, you know what I'm saying? Like. Like today's gonna be my last day. Dame dashing us too.

[DJ Envy]

Us too, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause it's annoying, you know what I'm saying? So to be honest with you, I feel like I got set up. It felt like Dame had all this, all these problems with me and never said it and was looking like a reason to say it. I was in a terrible deal of Epic records. I grew up with Dame and Rockefeller was up and he helped me get out that deal. And then I actually signed me to Rockefeller. That helped me get my group on. Rockefeller put out a platinum album. The Diplomats was born. It was a great. It was great. And he did a lot for me. So I always attribute that not only I knew since I was like 10, 11 years old, you know what I'm saying? And when Rockefeller fell apart, he's still my man. He's on my man last year. I don't know what I'm saying. He's been my man this whole time. But to me, it's like a setup. Because no matter what, so publicly, I've been giving this man props for 25 years, and it hasn't been a smooth 25 years. But that's always been my friend. I've never ran to the Internet and talked about you. Whether we having good time, bad time, whatever. What I do do over the years is take breaks from me. When I say that, it's like, I didn't call a day for a minute. I'll call him next year. This and the third. And when he started talking about me on different on different podcasts, I'm like, bro, what is the is this about? But he was. Guess he was saying, cam is not a man. He ain't calling me this. Yo, bro, everybody's not built for your personality. I am. I just know how to take breaks from you from time to time because I know your personality now. I want to deal with it right now. But for him to go to the Internet, start talking about me, it was like, really? That's what the we doing? And when I seen that, I was like, this is crazy. He kept doing it. Kept doing different interview, yo, Cam this, Cam that came this. And I'm like. And then he talked about the last thing was he said, I didn't promote nothing. We were supposed to go partners on with Honor up the Movie. And we did an album with a track. And he said, I didn't promote it. And I finally gave feedback on why I didn't promote it. I'm like, I didn't want to be in it. You know what I'm saying? No disrespect, but that's how it happened. From there, Avalanche, he just went crazy. Started going, craig Kim this, Kim that. Came this even point where it's like, bro, now you stretching the truth and lying about a few things. But that's where it all started from for me, dissing Honor Up. But to me, if you wanted this, my art or my movies or my music or whatever, cool. You start getting personal and start taking mad personal. I'm like, we know too much about each other to be doing personal because this could get nasty. Because I know a lot about you, you know a lot about me. And I'm mad, funny, like, I don't want to rag doll my men on the Internet, especially, like, that's. I'm not talking about. But who the is you around to come out with a passion teeth like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would never let you do that because you my man. I texted, I'm like, yo, bro, whoever you around, they, you, they, you're not around. No real, because they would not let you come on the camera like that. And that's kind of how it started when I dishonored, just got personal. And it was to the point where I'm like, yo, listen man, this kind of, this could get nasty. And I spoke to Daniel. I know Daniel was up here with him. Daniel cool with me too. And so he kind of mediated it. And he was like, yo, this is not a good look for Harlem. Yada, yada, yada, yada. I was like, cool. I said, listen, it was a Thursday. He said, look, I said, listen, I got something coming out tomorrow. It's already done. If you tell him, listen, this is coming out tomorrow. But I won't say nothing else about him on the Internet.

[Omarion]

Cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He says, cool. He said, cool. He's still talking about me on the Internet yesterday, right now? Yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

You know, part 15, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly.

[DJ Envy]

And they did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it was like, bro, you, I thought we wasn't going to talk about each other.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That ain't no problem. But to me, to be honest with you, I've tapped out when I issued a 300 million dollar lawsuit. And then he tells Daniel to tell me, yo, tell Cam to give me a million dollars and we might let it all go away. I'm like, you trying to quiet distort me. Like, what are you talking about? Send you a million off the 300 million? I'm not sending you a million dollars.

[Just Blaze]

Well, I'm glad he didn't take your show off Revolt.

[DJ Envy]

Because he could. He was your boss.

[Just Blaze]

Yeah, he was your boss.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the point. Like, to me it's semi disappointing because I looked up to him, you know what I'm saying? And I'm just a point where I don't wish him wealth, health and success. But I can't no more. Because like you said in the can component and all that, you at a point where you say, as long as your name say in the algorithm, even if it takes beefing with your man to be in the algorithm, that's where you at in life. And I'm like, I see. Why be curving. You got to think about this. Not just artists. If you sit there and think about the artists that he helped and put on, it's phenomenal. You sit there and think about Kevin Hart or Jay Z or Kanye or myself or whoever. Nobody with you. Is it the artist or is it you? You know what I'M saying not only that, day one don't fuck with you. So I don't mean this in a bad way because I know you're gonna take this, and this will be last another three, four months for him. You know, he'll take a spin at this, and then I'll be seeing like, to me, bro, you try to defame my character to where it's like, for what? My Kim's a civilian. All right, Dane, whatever. I'm a civilian. We tried to give you a million dollars last year when you was in the News for owing $800,000. We, Mace, Mason, Dame don't even got a good relationship. They don't even with each other. But Mace felt bad and he's like, cam, you want to spend 500,000? 500,000 just so we this don't got no debt. I'm like, I don't know. I'll do it. But I don't really know if we gonna make our money back. But for the. For the sake of Dame, yeah, I'll do it. And then when the didn't go through, we suckers. Because you want to wait on YoungBoy, NBA or Drake or whatever other deal you had, we try to give you a million dollars just to clear your debt up. And you, you basically gambled yourself out waiting on more money.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

When you talk about Harlem, I know you mentioned earlier you and Jim's relationship not being the same. That's not like we're never going to get to see that sit down combo reunion like, anything at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I mean, like I said, I just think that we're in two different spaces in life. And that don't mean I don't wish them well. And I don't mean Juels and everybody that's been part of what we did. I think it's a great movement, but sometimes things just come to an end. So I'm not. I would never say never, but it doesn't look like it's in the near future. But I do wish them brothers well.

[Just Blaze]

All right, well, the killer Cam comedy show is going down tonight. And how can people order the pink horsepower pink hyphen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Horsepower.net is going to lead you to the new website. Because it's a new website. I don't know it off the top, but it directs you to the website. So pink hyphenate horsepower.net for the last thing. For the last thing I'll say in this not 100 closed complex con. If anybody's gonna be out there in Vegas coming up Me and Sexy Red are doing a drop of horsepower and whatever she got. I don't want to say the wrong name, but we're gonna package it together. We're gonna do a special drop for her sex pill for women, so.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So we'll try and send you some because she has something for women. I got something for men. And then you could take Sexy Reds joint.

[DJ Envy]

Makes sense.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

All right, cool.

[Just Blaze]

Well, there you have it. It's Camron.

[Lauren LaRose]

There's a bunch of donkeys out here.

[DJ Envy]

That is why Charlemagne is here.

[Lauren LaRose]

If we live a life where we bite our tongue based off who we may have been, we never would say anything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On the Breakfast Club. In the words of Charlemagne, the God, he's a donkey. Oh, man. Charlamagne, you giving donkey donkey today.

[Lauren LaRose]

Who now? Yes, donkey today. Going to a 35 year old Kentucky woman named Makisha Johnson. She was a patient at a Kentucky hospital and she did something that a lot of people think about doing when the process at the hospital is taking too long. What do you mean, Uncle Charlotte? She did something that a lot of people think about doing when the process at the hospital is taking too long. Well, let's go to WDRB for the report, please.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

A woman is under arrest in Louisville after reportedly choking and assaulting a UOFL hospital nurse. Court records say a nurse was making her round Saturday after when 35 year old Mykeisha Johnson allegedly attacked her. Police say footage of the incident shows Johnson choking the nurse, then slamming her to the ground where she reportedly began hitting the nurse in the face. Officers say Johnson claims she was angry at the staff for taking too long to discharge her. Johnson was charged with assault of a health care provider, wanton endangerment, and menacing.

[Lauren LaRose]

Here's the thing. When you're ready to go, you're ready to go, okay? We have all been part of the discharge process from the hospital in some way, shape or form, whether you've been the patient or whether you've been waiting with somebody. And yes, the hospital does drag their feet sometimes. Okay. It is a hurry up and wait situation. Nothing is worse when you have to unexpectedly go to the hospital. Like you know, you got to go to the er, like something not right with you or the kids got a bone out of socket. So you gotta up and leave the house and you didn't plan to. Oh my God, you'd be so ready to leave the hospital once they tell you nothing wrong or they fix what is wrong. But the hospital do be taking forever. But just because you think about Choking somebody doesn't give you the right to do it, okay? Especially when this nurse wasn't doing anything but her job. Nurses out here working long hours, they're underpaid, they're stressed, and they always put their own health at risk just to take care of our sick asses, okay? They do not deserve to be attacked on the job, full stop. But also, if you're trying to speed up the process, Makeisha, the quickest way to slow things down is by physically attacking the nurse, okay? You're definitely not going home now. You're going to jail. Now, I'm not here to make excuses for her violence, okay? What she did was wrong, but we have to know something was off with her mentally, right? You gotta know that there is a lot of things that are gonna push people to the breaking point in this day and time that we live in, it's gonna be a lot of things that are gonna make people snap. And it's because folks like Makeisha are walking around with undiagnosed mental illnesses, okay? A lot of folks out here under pressure, and they don't got no tools, no resources, no coping skills. They're not going to no therapy. They don't have no emotional outlets. They just have frustration and nowhere healthy to put it. And they end up projecting on people the way that Makeisha projected onto this nurse. And that's not an individual problem, okay? That just doesn't stand with Mikisha. That's a societal problem. We don't take mental health seriously. We tell people just to man up or suck it up or, you know, get it.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

What?

[DJ Envy]

Suck it up. You know, girl, no.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

You know, you the best eater.

[Lauren LaRose]

Why are you. No, Because I could have tied all of that in with Kanye too, but I didn't. Because he's somebody else that we know is dealing with mental health issues. And people be telling him to suck it up. He did it literally. But we tell people to man up and get over it or just deal with it. Meanwhile, people out here accept exploding over little things, okay? And others have to pay the price, like that poor nurse. So we need to get people help, get them therapy. I personally don't believe this young woman, Makisha Johnson, needs to be in handcuffs. But she does deserve to get the credit today for being stupid. So give her the biggest he haw.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Omarion]

Yo, this man said suck it up. And people exploding over little things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You be writing this with so much gay intention. Like, oh, my God, gay.

[Lauren LaRose]

Like an album exploding over little things.

[Just Blaze]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Lauren Rose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yes, indeed.

[Just Blaze]

We got Chris Gotti.

[DJ Envy]

Welcome to me, man. Thank you for having me, man. Thank you.

[Just Blaze]

How you doing, brother?

[Omarion]

How's everything, man?

[DJ Envy]

I'm blessed, you know, just taking it one day at a time from everything, you know? But everything's going great. Got a lot of positive stuff happening, and that's why I'm here. All right.

[Just Blaze]

If you don't mind, I want to go back a little bit for people that. That don't know who Chris Gotti is. Of course. Irv Gotti's brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Just Blaze]

Irv Gotti's big brother.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Just Blaze]

For Queens, N.Y. hollis. And you guys been in the industry for a while. And you guys, both of y' all founded Murder, Inc. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yeah.

[Just Blaze]

Most people only hear Irv when thinking about Murder, Inc. But you were kind of the. The silent guy behind everything. So talk about how Murder, Inc. Or the Inc. Was founded.

[DJ Envy]

It's Murder, Inc. We hated that we had to change that name. That was Russell Simmons and Leo, and it came to us and Ben Chavis and said, put Murder to bed because we was dealing with the feds and everything. So Murder, Inc. Was founded because Irv wanted to be the biggest producer in the world. I helped make him that. They thought Irv came up with, like, I'm gonna start a record label. He didn't start a label. He just wanted to be the biggest producer in the game. And that's what happened. And because that happened, Tom Mottola, Dave McPherson over at Sony said, we want to give you a record deal. They told us they wanted to buy four Beats at the time. We're selling Beats for 250. 50,000 attracts. But that's a million dollars. I'm like, let's go get that. We met up at Justin's, the restaurant, you know, Diddy's place. We talking. He's like, tommy wants to give you a deal. Not he doesn't want to buy beats. And to our surprise, he pulls a contract out and look at it. Irv looked at it, and he threw it right back at him. So you serious? Send it to our lawyer. So that's really the bird for Murder, Inc. And we didn't have a name. We just came up with a bunch of things. DJ Clues doing the mixtape. Ja's doing a feature. And inside of that feature, we had a bunch of names we had thought of, like lockdown Records. He says it in the. In the. His verses on the Features on the. On the mixtape. And that's kind of where we was at. And then Irv was watching Austin Entertainment one day, it's Gangster Week, and he sees Murder, Inc. On the screen, and it's the Notorious Murder, Inc. Which was the. The Italian guys that was actually making hits.

[Just Blaze]

Yeah, that was doing hits on people in Brooklyn.

[Brad Palumbo]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

It's luckily Chiano, Alfred, Anastasia, and those guys. And the narrator of that show was like, the Notorious Murder, Inc. And they made hits. Irv went crazy. He went crazy. He called everybody. I got the name. But that's why when you ask that question, how did it start? And if the co founders. That's the co founder. I helped make all of the music with him, with all of the producers. And I just took care of the business and I took care of my little brother.

[Just Blaze]

And Ja was always the first artist on Murder.

[DJ Envy]

Another misconception. Ja was already signed to Murder Def Jam. So his first album, vinovedovici, it's on Def Jam. We just get the deal. But he already signed his deal.

[Lauren LaRose]

Oh, wow. Wow.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. People don't know that. So we had to go basically back to Lior and say, that's our artist. And then we had to pay for it to get him back to Murder.

[Lauren LaRose]

Inc. How much did you have to pay?

[DJ Envy]

A couple million dollars.

[Lauren LaRose]

Damn.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, look, we had to pay for Ashanti. She was signed to AJM Records, which is Shout Out Mario Baeza. Mario's like her uncle, and he has Ashanti. He wanted us to do records for Ashanti on his label. He had a little independent label, and Ashanti was there with him. And Irv didn't really think about doing anything. Everybody hit me with the. The tunnel vision. Like, stay focused. Yo, we get money with Ja rules. I'm like, yo, she could write. She's dope. And what break that. What broke that ice was Fat Joe. He called me up because he's doing a Big Pun album, and he says, I need that pun. I need a artist to R B artist on the hook. I said, I got one. He said, you do? I was like, yeah. I called her up. She drove right to the studio, pinned it. Joe was like, yo, she's dope. I said, all right, tell Irv.

[Just Blaze]

And I said, I went down.

[DJ Envy]

And he told Irv. And Irv was like, what artist? And he called me up right after. Irv was like, what artist you talking about? Like, my R B artist. And it was Ashanti. He was like, what artist? And Irv called me right after that, said, bring it to Bring it back up. And that's really how we got Ashanti. But Irv was my little brother. I raised him, he listened to me up to a certain point. After that point I had to get someone else to. So I would send messages through all types of people to tell them, do something to get it done. And that's what Joe did for me.

[Just Blaze]

I do want to ask you talk about. He doesn't listen. When got to his later life, they said he was having health problems. Yeah, they said nobody could talk to.

[DJ Envy]

Irv about talking to him constantly.

[Just Blaze]

They said he wouldn't change his diet, he wouldn't change his thing and they said nobody could get through to him. Why do you think that that was fervor?

[DJ Envy]

Partially because my pops was hard headed. He got it from my dad. So same exact thing going through diabetes, health problems. And my dad was like, you can't tell me God didn't make this orange and I can't eat it. You can't, you know, this was really our problem. And then it's the ignorance of just health. Herb was the same. He would be like, there's no way you could tell me I can't eat this food. It's, it's good. And he would tell you it's healthy. And it was trash, you know, and it was just hard hit it now. When he had his first stroke, he had two strokes. The first stroke, basically he was. I man, I didn't think he was gonna be, be here for after that one. He was. I went to the hospital as soon as I heard, I flew right to la. Shout out bj. BJ found him. Yeah, you know, BJ caught us, picked him up, got him to the hospital. When he came around he was like, I don't want to go to the hospital. Don't take me to the hospital. I'm going to take my meds now. And BJ was like, no. He said so stand up. And he couldn't. He stood up and fell back down and see, I know you're going to the hospital. Took him to the hospital. I didn't know he's going to get past that one. He flew out there. He was there for. I was there for a month and a half in the hospital staying with him. When he took about two weeks before he actually came back and was conscious. But those first two weeks, I don't think if I make it. I always credit. I said BJ gave us another year basically before the next one, you know, so.

[Lauren LaRose]

But somebody told me there was a sense of acceptance that he had. And he would say. He would say things like, I'm going. I'm going to see Poppy. I'm going to be with Poppy.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, yeah. He wrote a few scenes, Gram. He. And I would always. When I seen it, I would call him like, stop talking like that. I don't believe in calling on for death like that unless you really have a death wish. I was like, yo, stop talking. You'll see him when it's your time. Well, I used to say Irv used to feel like he's God. Probably at one point when we was at the height of Murder Inc. He probably felt like he was the alpha and omega at one point.

[Just Blaze]

And you think he knew when he sold part of his catalog, right?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, no, he sold it all. Well, he. Irv on 50% of the masses. We had a 50. 50. So we had 50%. He sold it. It was a 300 million dollar deal. 100 in cash, 200 for movies and TV products, projects.

[Just Blaze]

Do you think he knew at that time to set his kids up to be like, if something does happen? Every kid have that. Do you think that was the mentality?

[DJ Envy]

IRV is 100% family. So yeah, that's definitely part of it. And it's also part of health. You know, just want to make sure, like you said, things is there for somebody no matter what. Because Irv accepted death. He always, he would always accept death if that was the consequence. Whatever it is. We both do. Like, I don't ever look at the consequence of whatever is right. The preciousness of life. Think about that. Like, we're here for such a short amount of time, but we never thought or thought about anything like that. Herbs, no different. I like. And that's why when he got sick and he would tell me like, this is what it is, this is what it is. But he didn't try to prevent it. And no one talks mortality, especially when you're young. But it's. It's coming and we don't know when. That's the reality too. We don't have. No one knows that expiration date.

[Just Blaze]

How did you navigate with Irv having problems with all of y' all friends? Like one time, Irv was not messing with hov, then it was Fat Joe, then it was dmx, then it was Nas. Like, how did you navigate that part of it?

[DJ Envy]

Families fight. Irv made a ton of mistakes. If he was here, like here or not. I'm gonna always speak to the reality of what it was. Irv made a lot of mistakes. For instance, with Jay Z, Nas, they beefing. Irv made Super Ugly. You know, he produced that record. To go after that and talk to Jay Z and say, I'm, yo, I'm gonna sign Nas. What you think? Of course, we're in Baseline Studios.

[Just Blaze]

What did hov say before Irv spoke?

[DJ Envy]

I said, I'll give you the PG version. But I told him, whatever you want to do, I'm with you. And then Irv's like, yo, it's good business. And he's telling him, it's like, yo, are you crazy? You can't tell your man you want to work with his enemy like that. And Irv's like, nah, it's just on. Jay was like, you know, he was asking him, does he have real beef with him? He said, nah, it's just like music. But Jay's keeping it cordial, like to see where Irv's going with it. Or Jay plays chess. He's not playing. Like, he wants to see what you're gonna say. And. And Irv, as soon as Jay said, it's not beef like that, he turned to me, he said, I told you. I told you. And Jay looking at me like, yo, is he serious? And I was like, wow, he's crazy.

[Lauren LaRose]

And now I've never signed with Murder Angle. Fish.

[DJ Envy]

Nah. Steve Stouton. Oh, Steve Stout. Shout out Steve, man. But the commission is, he's, he's in that day, he was a real hands on guy. He's the one who brought the deal to us. And Irv was like, you serious? We could get Nas. Like, we didn't think we could get that. And he was like, yeah, we made the record. The Pledge.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[DJ Envy]

Naj pledging allegiance to Murder Ring. Think about that. He's on the record pledging allegiance to murdering. And then Stout seeing the future, in my opinion. And again, to his credit, I, again, I'm not knocking Stout. This dude is brilliant in the book of hip hop. He has to be one of the most iconic people in that book. The end of the day, he's seen the future. What's the future? Come on.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Murdering.

[DJ Envy]

We're murdering. What's the future? 50 Cent. He said it. He knew it. He knew it. Ja had a sneaker deal with, with Steve Reebok. We on a private plane flying. They designing everything in the, in, you know, in the plane. And then he seen the future and pulled everything and switched it. Now, G Unit got his sneaker deal. Jay Z got his sneaker deal, you understand, with Reebok. And again, he knew he, he seen something and Understood and made the pivot. As a businessman, I respect it.

[Lauren LaRose]

Of course. Why did. Why was Jay as a friend.

[DJ Envy]

It's a little questionable.

[Lauren LaRose]

I get that. That's what I'm saying. Why was Jay upset with Irv, but not Steve? As Steve presented the deal.

[DJ Envy]

But Steve was also remembered. Steve was also part of a lot of. That's why Damon always has. Obviously, Steve is. Because of that, Steve was funneling a lot of deals with Jay. And then seeing Jay getting pulled that way, instead of going through Damon and dealing with the, you know, that side of it, I understand that DAM would have took a bullet for Jay. You kidding me? In that day that. You kidding me? It's not even close. It's not. It's. That's what makes me mad with that situation. I will say.

[Just Blaze]

How do you feel about the situation?

[DJ Envy]

I spoke to Jay about that before. One time I told him, and I just left it alone after that.

[Just Blaze]

How do you feel it when you see it play out? Because you see how close they were. You were on tours. You were in studios.

[DJ Envy]

There's a lot of stuff that's personal again inside of a family that we wouldn't know that. I don't know. That's. I'll leave it there. And then you got to let families be what they are because of what it is. I respect both of them to the highest level. You know, at the end of the day, I leave it alone.

[Lauren LaRose]

And didn't Jay get back? Didn't. I think I heard you tell a story about how when Jay used Irv's same line again.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Oh, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah. The same lie. Because Irv was like. When. When Jay told him that it wasn't really more. It wasn't like physical beef. It was more lyrical. And Irv went crazy, like I told you. And then he. But Jay's looking at him like, you my man. You can't be, like, serious, like. But left it alone. Chess. He's playing chess. And then right after that, Jay went and did a tour with 50 Cent. They got the G on it. Sneaker. He has his. Remember he had his, like, Gucci. Yeah. And they went out on the tour, and then Irv, you know, Irv sat there and he's like, yeah. I just went on. He said, yeah, it was good business. Because Irv told Jay it would be good business to do this. It's gonna be good business. I'm gonna have not. But what he's not realizing. And Irv knew it after the fact. You know, hindsight is 20 20. He realized that was one of his biggest mistakes, which it took a lot to fix that.

[Just Blaze]

But they finally did fix it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

We had multiple conversations, but, you know, it wasn't never the same. What's that record? And Jay says, gotta consult Irv. Gotta. Y' all heads got to roll, right? That's a fact. Jay took that off every Forward record. Think about how serious that is. That he said, no, I don't want to hear that no more. You can't get that unless you have the old original. It's bleeding out. It's bleeped out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is.

[Just Blaze]

I didn't know that.

[DJ Envy]

It's called remastering, baby. Yeah, Gone.

[Lauren LaRose]

I remember.

[DJ Envy]

That does not exist. Go get that. Go get that record and see if you could hear it. Go to Apple Music and see if you hear it. I'm bad with titles as much as I. I'm terrible with titles and names and stuff. I don't remember the title of records.

[Just Blaze]

On Streets is Watching, but it's only a customer.

[DJ Envy]

Jay used to sit in my office, literally, to wait, to talk to Irv. That's how deep that was. And Irv, when he come in, they go into. But Earth would help him with all types of business ideas, thoughts, everything. He respected Irv's brain. I'll leave it there.

[Just Blaze]

Now, the Fat Joe thing, y' all can never. I'm sorry. The Fat Joe thing, y' all could. Because Fat Joe and Irv was like, we fixed that.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all fix that with Joe and Irv again, never the same. He was at my man JR's funeral. And, you know, I told Joe again, I'm my brother's keeper. I told Joe, you messed up, Roy. And I went at Joe and told him, and he's like. He understood. We was at say Less, actually. And I was having a meeting with my niece and Saint from Interscope Records, and I didn't want to go and deal with this right now. And my other dude, Big Joe, kept coming, say, yo, Fat Joe's over.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, come on.

[DJ Envy]

And I said, I don't want to talk right now. He forced me to talk. So I said, all right, let me go to him. And when I went to back days with Rich, of course, shout out Rich and Joe. And I told him, I said, you can't shout out my brother's a sucker. And then whisper, I'm sorry, that's a sucker move. And I told him that, you know, I asked him all kind of crazy questions because that's just me. I was like, was you messing with Ashanti? Is that your girl? You found her because of us. What are you doing interfering? They had a relationship. What are you doing? I said, and listen. I. I promise you go listen to anything. All Irv did was yell how much he loved her in the way he's talking about every. You could tell as a man, he loved that woman. He was heartbroken. But I said, how do you tell me you love this girl? And you out with everybody else. That don't make no sense. He kept getting caught with other women. Like, yo, what are you doing, bro? But that's her. That is her. He wanted his cake and eat it too. And. And that's the reality of that whole thing. But it's crazy. Like, every time I say, just listen, everyone talks all crazy. Just listen to what he's saying. Listen to the words. Don't just hear his. He's. He's speaking loud. With Lorenzo's, we speak loud, but at the end of the day, you listen to what he's really saying. And Irv is not a liar. He is telling you the truth about her, about him. I was their counselor, meaning when they would fight. I'm over the Four Seasons with Irv, and I'm at the Ritz Carlton with a shot talking about, what did he say? What did she say? Trying to keep him cool. I never took Irv's side while Irv was here. Never.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I.

[DJ Envy]

All I said is, I'm not gonna lie now. I'm not gonna talk about nothing, but I'm not gonna lie either. Like, you can't ask me to do that. He's not here no more. You can't even say, if I hear something wrong, I will correct you. But that's it. That's just for respect for my brother. But I never. Irv hated that. I never took inside with him. Hated it. Like, that was something I had to deal with him. And I'm like, yo, that's your relationship. You know, that's your business. This is over here. He was like, she didn't come to the trial. I said, she was at the Trap. Yeah. Cause Darcelle called her. I said. I called her. I called her and said, you should be there. And she showed up. What more do you want? That's the fact.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Have you and Ashanti been able to talk since? Everything? Cause I saw that you were upset with her when she sat down with Angie Martinez, and she said that I was upset.

[DJ Envy]

Cause we haven't spoke in person after Irv's passing. Imagine that. And I promise you, I'm the reason she was murdering more. Irv made the records. But Irv would have never got to that point. If I don't do what I did, I used to fight fly up to Jersey, giving her music to make record after record. If I don't put her on the pun, it never happens. And I did that. She knows it. For her not to call me after her passing, she texts me that, that don't feel right. Her mother, Tina, that don't feel right. You understand? Like, I did everything for them. Never did. I did one thing in return. I'm not gonna sit here and sugarcoat nothing. And that's why I felt the way. And then when I see, I'm like, nah, that's not cool. You know, there's so much details of the murder ring history that we don't know or the public doesn't know. Ashanti. We didn't have her signed, and we put Foolish out.

[Lauren LaRose]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Number one record in the country and she's not signed. You know how much it cost us to get her from that little AJM records? $5 million out of our pipe.

[Just Blaze]

5.

[DJ Envy]

Because we got a hit record.

[Lauren LaRose]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

We got a hit record on her. So now he's. The number's up 5 million.

[Lauren LaRose]

What made y' all put the record out before she was Irv.

[DJ Envy]

Irv moves with his heart.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Leo said, I'm not gonna pay for nothing. Irv was like, we going. It's timing. You know, success is number one. Reason for success is timing. She knows we had to pay that money. But look, Irv said loyalty. He figured that's what hurt him. See, this is the part that hurt him. He's thinking, she's gonna be loyal with me on just business things and stuff. And again, then it turned into relationship, too. Because in that moment, he wasn't messing with her yet. He just seen a talented young girl and that's it.

[Lauren LaRose]

I did want to ask you about the funeral. Cause ho came to the funeral?

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRose]

I thought Ashanti came to the funeral.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She did not.

[DJ Envy]

She sent some flowers.

[Lauren LaRose]

Okay. What about Joe?

[DJ Envy]

That Joe did not. His. His father. His father passed. Same time.

[Lauren LaRose]

Okay. Got you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gotcha.

[DJ Envy]

Joe came late. Actually, Joe was there late.

[Lauren LaRose]

Got you.

[DJ Envy]

He left his father's and got to us late. I. I seen him after. At the end, when it was almost over. He did get there. Sorry, Joe. Yeah. He wasn't in the beginning, though.

[Lauren LaRose]

Got you.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

I was gonna ask you. He mentioned the flowers, and I know she. Ashanti had posted a statement online. Did that I know you said that you want to talk in person, but, like, did that provide any sort of comfort for you guys in that moment? Just having things show up there from her.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know how to answer that, really. It's like. I mean, I got sick over her, man. I got sick physically after he literally in the hospital, like. And they. What is it? Stress? What's the stress? It's my brother. He's here right now, like. But I got through it. I have to, like I said. So when you say that with the flowers, it's a good gesture. It's a good gesture. I won't go further than that. I don't want to be disrespectful to her because she probably thinks it's good, but she should know better that she had to talk to me physically. Actually, she should come see me physically. I. I love Ashanti, you know what I'm saying? That's little. That's like little sis. For real, for real. We took care of her in every sense of the imagination. She. She confessed me one day afterwards and she thanked me for everything we did for her. Because now she's out there by herself and she's getting all type of indecent proposals. Let's leave it at that, right? Because that's what this industry is. Let's not make any sugarcoating about it. It's an attractive young lady, she wants to make music. What could you do with this? You want that beat? Okay, let's go over here. And she told me. She told me and she was like, thank you. She thanked me for always taking care of it. On verses, you know, she's with Nelly. Shout out Nelly. I have no problem with these. Nothing I with Nelly. But on verses, the day of verses, he pulls up and I said, what do you want to do? Asked her, like, she come up and you ask her, what do you want to do? I'll roll this off the stage. She said, no, I'll give you the sign if there's a problem. But that's the day they got back together. That's why you don't get in the middle of relationships. It's different. That's why I never got in when Irvin her were together. I never did. I just tried to keep it cool with them and keep the business moving. Damn, that's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I could have swore it was reported.

[Omarion]

That she went to the funeral.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, so she just sent you a text?

[Just Blaze]

Yeah, they lied.

[DJ Envy]

They did put a report that she was there. They lied again. She probably got a Good postage or something.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

She had said that she tried to. There was an olive branch or whatever that she tried to extend or was extended, but it wasn't received well. So you think that that's why she kind of.

[DJ Envy]

She text me and she didn't text me. If I show you the date, she texts me. Slate. You understand? He's gone already. So just put this in without me going deep. He's gone. And then I get a text after he's gone a couple days. She got my number. She could.

[Lauren LaRose]

Like, you'd appreciate it.

[DJ Envy]

A call. I would appreciate a visit. Yeah, I guess you're saying, like, it's like I said, we did a lot, you know, and she could say whatever she wants about a relationship. She's. She. Whatever. But she can't lie about her career. Who can? Who can sit there and say she did something more than what. What it is? Like, yeah, she wrote the records with him. She hated every hit record.

[Lauren LaRose]

How about that?

[Omarion]

That.

[DJ Envy]

So what if we listen to her? Does she become Ashanti? That's the facts. Full baby, baby. She hated that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I was Too Many babies.

[DJ Envy]

It's one of my favorite records. Irv went in the booth and so you gotta sing like this. He said, you gotta feel like you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You high.

[DJ Envy]

You don't get high. That's why you don't know what it is. That's what he told her. And he said, you got to be strung out on a man that way. And he's so. I don't want to hear it. Pitch perfect. That sounds stupid. Gotti, sing it like that. And she did. See, I give credit for the listening. A producer has to be able to produce or else you just a beat maker, right? And you're leaving it in the hands of an artist. And then that's the reality. If you trust that producer, which they trusted her, they was able to get through and make those changes. She compromised her own belief for his, which is to her credit. But that's the beauty of a producer. And that's to me, Irv is a producer. For real? For real.

[Just Blaze]

Well, thank you for joining us this morning.

[Lauren LaRose]

Yeah, man, great conversation.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. I gotta talk about one more thing before we get off. I got a movie. I'm a filmmaker now. Okay, Nice ballin'. I got Lance Stevenson as my lead. Safaree. Trey Chaney.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shout out to Trey Chaney.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, he's the lead.

[Lauren LaRose]

Oh, wow.

[DJ Envy]

He's the lead. Not only is he the lead, but he made an incredible soundtrack. Lance Stevens, the Black Drake. He's the Black Drake. I promise you, he's singing and rapping on the songs. And I couldn't believe I was gonna just make one or two songs for the movie.

[Lauren LaRose]

Why not Safari, though?

[DJ Envy]

Why would you get Safari to do this again? I asked. But you gotta come in, right?

[Lauren LaRose]

I thought you said he was in the movie.

[DJ Envy]

He's in the movie.

[Lauren LaRose]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

But he didn't come to the studio.

[Lauren LaRose]

Got you. Got you.

[DJ Envy]

You gotta come.

[Lauren LaRose]

That was probably for the best.

[Just Blaze]

Shut up, man.

[DJ Envy]

Nah, you know, I'm gonna. Since you said shout out. Safari, go watch it. It's out on.

[Omarion]

Oh, it's already out.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Okay.

[Radhi Devlukia]

What is it called?

[DJ Envy]

Ballin'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ballin'.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On tv.

[DJ Envy]

No, it's a. It's. It's based off of an Alfred Hitchcock movie called Dial in for Murder. The way the plot twist is, we just put the culture for today with people like us. You know what I'm saying? And we're doing it for the black and brown. So I'm not Latin, but I do Latin with my partner, Don De Niro. Man, we just finished Spanish Fly, a crazy movie. You know what I'm saying? So we got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We got it all.

[Just Blaze]

I'm not Spanish man either. He said he not, but he works.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I got a partner that's Cuban.

[Omarion]

Okay. Okay.

[DJ Envy]

And he's my partner. He does all the Latin side for me. But I, you know, support him with everything he's doing. You know, it's funny, cuz on my Wikipedia, someone put down there cuz people could add stuff. I never did my Wikipedia.

[Just Blaze]

He does mine, too, all the time. He called me a gardener.

[DJ Envy]

He start they print on mine. And I'm Dominican, so I'm an honorary Dominican, too. Ken.

[Just Blaze]

Chris Gotti. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Lauren LaRose]

Good morning, man.

[DJ Envy]

Thank y'. All.

[Just Blaze]

Now, Charlamagne, you got a positive note.

[Lauren LaRose]

Positive note is simply this. We cannot give what we do not have, okay? We cannot bring peace to the world if we ourselves are not peaceful. We cannot bring love to the world if we ourselves are not loving. So be the change you want to see on this planet, people. Have a great day.

[DJ Envy]

Breakfast Club finished or y' all done woke up?

[Lauren LaRose]

Wake you up.

[Just Blaze]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Program your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartradio.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

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