The Breakfast Club BEST OF(Patientce Foster, Chris Brickley, And Nina Parker & KevOnStage Interview)

Summary

The Breakfast Club "Best Of" — Patience Foster, Chris Brickley, Nina Parker & KevOnStage Interviews

Episode Date: September 1, 2025
Podcast: The Breakfast Club (iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Lauren LaRosa

---

Episode Overview

This special Labor Day "Best Of" episode of The Breakfast Club spotlights insightful and entertaining conversations with major figures across entertainment, sports, and business. Key guests include Patience Foster (Cardi B’s longtime brand manager and founder of Cream Labs), celebrated NBA trainer Chris Brickley, and the dynamic Friday Night Vibes host duo, Nina Parker and KevOnStage. The hosts and guests delve into personal journeys, professional partnerships, the nuts and bolts behind talent management, navigating toxic workplaces, and building lasting legacies. The show's signature humor, real talk, and camaraderie shine throughout.

---

Key Segments & Insights

1. Opening & Listener Call-In Session

[02:34 – 12:49]

• The hosts set a lively tone with Labor Day banter and shoutouts to community events, like a free day at the International African American Museum in Charleston, S.C. (03:20).
• Jess Hilarious plugs her upcoming Baltimore Comedy Factory shows.
• Caller Jamie from Baltimore sings a heartfelt song for his birthday, leading to playful teasing from the hosts.
  • Jess Hilarious (06:11): “Hey, yo, stop playing with my man.”
• Another caller vents about her “dirty 30” birthday dinner debacle, where most invitees bailed, leaving her with a $2,100 restaurant tab. The hosts debate owning up to your circle and choosing affordable venues:
  • Charlamagne (12:09): “Or it shouldn’t have been at Maya’s, cause a hundred dollars is steep for one night when people ain’t got it right.”
  • Jess Hilarious (12:14): “She should’ve did Golden Corral in the Bronx.”

---

2. Nina Parker & KevOnStage – Friday Night Vibes Hosts

[12:49 – 21:22]

• On Professional Chemistry and Show Origins

  • Nina and Kev detail their “chem test” audition for Friday Night Vibes after the original hosts, Tiffany Haddish and Deon Cole, departed.
  • Nina Parker (16:20): “It was actually like a family reunion… when Nina and I went, it was like, this sounds cliche, but I was like, I forgot we were even auditioning. We were just chopping it up.”

• On Healthy Working Relationships

  • Nina Parker (16:31): “Kev is by far, like, the easiest person I’ve ever worked with.”
  • KevOnStage (17:09): “Talent is evenly distributed, you know, in LA, New York… But good people to work with is not so much.”

• Nina’s Traumatic Early Career at TMZ

  • Nina and Lauren reflect on dealing with toxic workplace cultures at TMZ (20:20), highlighting exploitative practices, a lack of HR, and being pressured as the only Black on-camera presence.
  • Nina (21:52): “You would work, like, 14 hours a day… You would get in trouble for taking a lunch. You couldn’t leave… You had to answer your phone at 4 in the morning.”
  • Lauren LaRosa (22:25): “I was at TMZ for eight years… when George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery happened, you’re fighting by yourself.”
  • Nina (24:47): “There are a lot of microaggressions. There’s macro, too… I got to think about the people who are watching that look like me.”

---

3. Hosts’ Flex Stories & Listener Call-Ins

[32:06 – 37:28]

• DJ Envy gets roasted for “flexing” by making a TikTok about his large house while saving dogs from the rain, with hosts poking fun at each other's humble brags and lifestyles.
• Listeners share their funniest and most over-the-top methods of “flexing” — e.g., checking a six-figure bank account on speakerphone to impress a date, or buying more shots at the bar to keep the party going till direct deposit hits.
  • Caller (35:43): “I checked my bank account on speakerphone in front of her just to watch her reaction... The attitude changed...”

---

4. Patience Foster – Building Cardi B’s Brand

[38:11 – 69:59]

Origin Story

• Patience shares how she leveraged a Wilmington, DE hair salon into a pathway for a career in publicity—ultimately becoming Cardi B’s brand manager before Cardi’s rap stardom.
  • Patience Foster (39:00): “I decided to open up a salon in Wilmington called Vixated... I always wanted to be a publicist.”
  • Patience recalls first connecting with Cardi via offering free beauty services, which led to supporting her public image and, eventually, a formal management role.

Cardi B’s Rise: The Blueprint

• Patience recounts Cardi’s early hunger, willingness to take risks, and the importance of “showing up and making an impression” before invitations arrived.
  • Patience (43:35): “Her first moment, I would say, was... Fashion Week... She was willing to be collaborative and trusting… You’re not going to always get an invite... Sometimes you got to show people why you should be invited.”

Brand Loyalty & Lines Between Business, Friendship

• The blurred lines between friend and client are explored; with rivals, Patience’s loyalty to Cardi means not doing business with adversaries.
  • Patience (49:16): “There is no real defining line between personal and business. My business is very personal... My business feeds my kid.”
  • On friend/journalist Lauren LaRosa: it’s all about mutual respect, clear communication, and knowing “are we on or off the record?” (58:56)

Dealing with Crisis & Publicity

• Patience discusses crisis management—how authenticity and consistency in Cardi B’s brand means fewer “damage control” moments.
  • Patience (63:15): “What you build from the beginning and the tone you set... in terms of authenticity is what carries you through those moments.”
  • Not all publicity is good publicity: salacious headlines can hurt brand partnerships and limit future deals.
  • Patience (65:54): “All publicity is attention, but all attention is not good attention.”

Fifth and Freedom, New Management Approach

• Fifth and Freedom is her new company, focused on helping talent build brands with long-term value—beyond just waiting for their next hit or project.
  • Patience (54:37): “Some people are just more reactive… It’s about being proactive, but also making sure... we’re building a brand that can sustain over years.”

---

5. Chris Brickley – NBA Trainer and Sneaker Entrepreneur

[75:52 – 99:23]

From Player to Elite Trainer

• Chris describes his journey—former Louisville player turned NBA trainer, working with top stars (LeBron, Carmelo, Westbrook, etc.).
• Emphasizes “good person” energy, luck, and building trust with athletes.
  • Chris Brickley (81:02): “I think at the end of the day, I’m a good person. I study my craft and the players know I care.”

Mental Game & Talent Development

• The mental aspect is often bigger than physical for athletes.
  • Chris (81:25): “So many players, if you watch the workout, they wouldn’t miss a shot... It’s because when the game comes, they just become like a mental midget.”

Working with Legends; The GOAT Debate

• On training LeBron: LeBron asked him directly for honest feedback—always “room to improve.”
• Chris (83:38): “He scored the most points in NBA history... I’m Team LeBron all day.”

Managing Fame and Brand

• Chris’s Puma basketball shoe drops September 5th.
• Talks about influencer status, sneaker deals, and giving back to his family:
  • Chris (94:27): “That’s my whole life. Like when I told my dad he could retire, that was like, like I made it.”

Best Celebrity Ballers

• Women: H.E.R. trained to make the WNBA, hit 15 threes in a row!
• Men: J. Cole prepared with Chris before making NBA Africa.
• Chris Brown could’ve been a pro at 18; scored 30 in games against NBA players.
  • Chris (97:55): “Chris Brown... scored 30 points... Nine NBA players, one artist.”

---

6. Donkey of the Day

[70:03 – 75:51]

• Charlamagne gives “Donkey of the Day” to Angel Gomez Montanez for a senseless murder following an argument over rent, using the moment to reflect on youth entitlement and consequences.
  • Charlamagne: “If you can come up with a plan to commit a murder, then you can come up with a plan to get a job, okay?” (71:28)

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Patience Foster’s Philosophy:
  • “My business is very personal because... you compromise my business, now you’re compromising the way I eat.” [49:16]
• On Cardi B's Authenticity:
  • “We’ve been who we are from the beginning. She’s been authentic in who she is from the beginning.” – Patience Foster [63:15]
• Chris Brickley on Mental Strength:
  • “There’s so many players… when the game comes, they just become like a mental midget.” [81:25]
• Nina Parker on Navigating Toxic Workspaces:
  • “You don’t have the luxury of being silent when it’s a Black issue—because they’re gonna look at you in a room full of white people and wonder why you didn’t say anything.” [23:04]

---

Standout Segments & Timestamps

| Topic/Guest | Segment Start | Highlights | |-------------------------------------|--------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Call-in: Listener “Dirty 30” Drama | 07:43 | The struggle of friend circles, financial planning for milestone events | | Nina Parker & KevOnStage | 12:49 | Behind the scenes at Friday Night Vibes, past trauma at TMZ, chemistry in media| | Patience Foster/Cardi B Management | 38:11 | Salon startup, organic entry to PR, loyalty, brand-building, handling crises | | Chris Brickley (NBA Trainer) | 75:52 | Player development, mental coaching, celeb clients, basketball sneaker launch |

---

Conclusion

This jam-packed “Best Of” Breakfast Club episode delivers a potent blend of industry wisdom, personal stories of hustle and perseverance, and the unique humor and honesty that makes the show a morning staple. Standout discussions center on loyalty and lines in business (Patience Foster), fostering professional chemistry (Nina Parker & KevOnStage), and the unseen mental grind of peak performance (Chris Brickley). The episode is a goldmine for aspiring creatives, entrepreneurs, and anyone eager for a real look behind the scenes of entertainment, sports, and media.

---

Transcript

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is an iheart Podcast.

[Commercial Announcer]

This Labor Day, say goodbye to spills, stains and overpriced furniture with washablesofas.com featuring Anabe, the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly pricing. Sofas start at just $6.99, making it the perfect time to upgrade your space. Anibe's Pet Friendly stain resistant and interchangeable slipcovers are made with high performance fabric built for real life. You'll love the cloud like comfort of hypoallergenic high resilience foam that never needs fluffing and a durable steel frame that stands the test of time with modular pieces you can rearrange anytime. It's a sofa that adapts to your life now through Labor Day. Get up to 60% off site [e-mail] Every order comes with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not in love, send it back for a full refund. No return shipping, no restocking fees, every penny back. Shop [e-mail] Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[Patience Foster]

Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor and.

[Chris Brickley]

I'm Drew Phillips and we run a.

[Patience Foster]

Podcast called Emergency Intercom.

[Chris Brickley]

If you're a crime junkie and you.

[DJ Envy]

Love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.

[Chris Brickley]

But if you have unmedicated adhd.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh my God, perfect.

[Chris Brickley]

And want to hear people with mental illness psychobabble.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, yes.

[Chris Brickley]

Then Emergency Intercom's the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartradio app, search Emergency Intercom and listen.

[DJ Envy]

Now I just normally do straight stand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Up, but this is a bit different.

[Patience Foster]

What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story.

[DJ Envy]

Does anyone know what show they've come to see?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a story.

[DJ Envy]

It's about the scariest night of my life.

[Patience Foster]

This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the iHeartRadio app.

[Commercial Announcer]

Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone thinks they'd never join a cult, but it happens all the time to people just like you and people just like us. I'm Lola Blanc.

[Patience Foster]

And I'm Megan Elizabeth.

[Commercial Announcer]

We're the hosts of Trust Me, a podcast about cults, manipulation and the psychology of belief.

[Nina Parker]

Each week we talk to fellow survivors.

[Commercial Announcer]

Former believers and experts to understand why.

[Patience Foster]

People get pulled in and how they get out.

[Commercial Announcer]

Trust Me.

[Patience Foster]

New episodes every Wednesday on Exactly Right.

[Commercial Announcer]

Listen Wherever you get your podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, usa.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Caller]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jess. Hilario.

[Nina Parker]

It's Labor Day.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, it is. Absolutely. Right. It's absolutely Labor Day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is Labor Day.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. And we not really here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, we are not.

[DJ Envy]

But we have an amazing best of show for you today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not even really at best of.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, we got some new interviews.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We got some new interviews.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We got. Patience will be joining us.

[Caller]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Patience.

[DJ Envy]

Patience Foster.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Cardi B's brand manager.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Correct.

[DJ Envy]

Oh. We never beaten the Cardi B payroll allegations.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

They gonna swear we on the payroll. We got Cardi B's brand manager up here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna have to walk out halfway through to show people that I'm not really riding all the way.

[DJ Envy]

That means they only give you the. The front end.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. Got you, got you, got you.

[Jess Hilarious]

They gave you the back end.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They get showing the back end.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. I want to tell everybody, too. Remind people in Charleston, South Carolina, that today at noon, the International African American Museum is going to be absolutely free. Okay. Myself and the Black Effect Podcast Network sponsored a free day at the International African American Museum in Charleston starting at noon today. So if you off for Labor Day, gather the kids and, you know, go to the International African American Museum starting today at noon. It is completely free. Admission is free, and NBA trainer Chris.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Brickley will be in the building as well.

[Jess Hilarious]

And I also wanted to say for Labor Day, for the next three hours, Messy Vision is completely free. It's psych. Naw, you can get your tickets.

[DJ Envy]

Psych. No, no, they gonna stop right there and there. You said it on the air. They gonna hold you to that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ain't gonna happen.

[Jess Hilarious]

20% off. Use the promo code. Psych. S I K E. Love y' all so much. Messyvision eyewear.com.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, let's get the show cracking. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

800-585-10 to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

Hey, Jamie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Jamie. What's up? Get it off your chest.

[Caller]

Hey, how you doing? I just want. I wanted to get on here and. Excuse me.

[DJ Envy]

I might be a little nervous.

[Caller]

I ain't never called the radio station before, but I just want to sing a little song for y' all real quick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. Go ahead, brother.

[Caller]

And it's my birthday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, happy birthday, Happy birthday.

[Jess Hilarious]

You from Baltimore?

[Caller]

Thank you. Thank you. Huh? Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

You from Baltimore.

[Caller]

I'm definitely from Baltimore. That death ain't it.

[Jess Hilarious]

I know. What's up?

[Caller]

What's up, dummy?

[Jess Hilarious]

No, you can't say that if you're not from there. Sing something for a show.

[Chris Brickley]

All right?

[Caller]

All right. There's so many things I've got to tell you. But I'm afraid. I don't know how. Cause there's a possibility that you hurting me differently. Love. Ever since that first moment I spoke your name. From then on, I knew that by you being in my life, things were destined to change the love.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay, shorty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[Caller]

What else? Your name in vain. What else you said?

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm trying to finish. Stuck.

[Caller]

Sometimes. Go straight.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What, what else you do, bro?

[DJ Envy]

You need to be singing. Trade school.

[Caller]

I need to.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hey, yo, stop playing with my man.

[DJ Envy]

I need to find something else.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

J, you. You have a great one, bro. Like, what else you do besides sing?

[Caller]

Thank you for. In school, I played ball for real. In college, so. But now I ain't in college right now. I got a little girl for real, so.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't do nothing. I said. He played ball in school.

[Caller]

Yeah, I'm 23. I, I, I, I'm in Florida now. I'm from Baltimore originally, so now I'm in Florida.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you doing in Florida?

[Caller]

Just chilling, working, you know.

[DJ Envy]

Ain't no such thing as a regular job, brother. You got a job. That's a good. You working at the Marriott. You're making a living, man, for.

[Caller]

I appreciate it. I want y' all to see me out here. Y' all gonna see me, man.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, sir. I'm. I'm wishing the best for you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely, brother.

[Jess Hilarious]

God bless you, man. And Baltimore, if you're listening, make sure you get your tickets for the show. I'm gonna be at Baltimore Comedy Factory the first weekend in September, September 5th through the 7th. Me and Desi Alexander. So get your tickets [e-mail]. we got six shows. Friday, Saturday and Sunday, two each night.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right? Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vin, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakf.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, Charlemagne, Envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What up?

[Caller]

Are we live?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now.

[Chris Brickley]

He'll tell you what it is.

[Caller]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller]

This Is Sydney.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Sydney. Good morning. And happy birthday. Belated.

[Caller]

Thank you so much. Thank you. So I'm here to get it off my chest. I had a. It was my dirty 30, and I bought this, like, let's say 30 people, and literally only nine showed up. And they left me with a bill. Damn.

[Jess Hilarious]

What? And it was your dirty 30?

[Caller]

It was my 30.

[DJ Envy]

30.

[Jess Hilarious]

Y' all went out to dinner. You had a dinner, and they. And only nine people showed up. You invited 30 people? Nine showed up and 11.

[Caller]

No, really, truly. There's a. There's a beautiful restaurant in the Bronx called Maya's Bar and Grill. So I kind of rented out the back section to have. And it was going to be open bar. You just had to pay $100. But, you know, I got to give him a headcount to know how much, you know, food to make, how many people.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah.

[Caller]

So I give him the head. How did your papers pop up? You know, and they kind of did it, and they kind of stuck me with that bill.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. That was $3,000. 100 a pop and only nine. So you. So you had to come out your pocket, what, 20, 100 exactly.

[Jess Hilarious]

Jesus, I'm so sorry.

[Caller]

So. And I'm still. I had to put it on the payment plan. I ain't gonna lie, because I ain't got it.

[Nina Parker]

I feel you.

[Jess Hilarious]

I understand. And they knew that, too. And if they knew that, they weren't going. How can you even show up somewhere not having no money and it's the birthday girl birthday?

[Caller]

No, it wasn't that. They didn't even show up with no money. They said it was coming and just didn't show up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So they RSVP and everything, all that. Damn.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm so sorry. But you see, you look going into your 30s, you see you got to leave some people back in the 20s.

[Caller]

No, trust me, I say that now, that next day, I cut everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You want to say all your friends that didn't show up or you want.

[Nina Parker]

You want to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You want to issue on them this morning, you want to say their names?

[Caller]

Well, I know one of them because they got a definite family. But you know what? People didn't show up. And I'm like, at least you won't pay me half the bill. Send me something to pay for this bill.

[DJ Envy]

I was.

[Caller]

Everybody I called a cuss out. I was like, yo, send me something. Send me at least half the court so I can pay this bill, because this ain't me.

[DJ Envy]

You really. You do realize they don't really like you. Though, right?

[Chris Brickley]

Oh, my God.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know.

[Caller]

Oh, damn. Thanks, Charlotte.

[DJ Envy]

I'm just saying, like, they didn't. They didn't show up. Like, did they give valid reasons? What was the reason?

[Jess Hilarious]

Only one person gave a valid reason. They had a death in the family.

[DJ Envy]

And everybody else was just.

[Caller]

I mean, they had a better everybody. I don't. I didn't even tell you that. I'm sure. I didn't even care about the explanation or whatever. I just had to at least pay something, give me something, because they already.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you tell them that it was a hundred dollars or you just said pull up.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's a little stink.

[Caller]

No, it was a fire. Everything 100, open bar, food. Like everything was included. Yeah, it was a whole flyer. I didn't just tell them, pull up and like. No, you gotta prep. You gotta prep. Some people, not everybody got it, you know. Yeah, for some people, you know, press and, you know, save their money and stuff. But no, I didn't just tell them to, you know, talk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I'm sorry. At least the restaurant did a payment plan. Most restaurants would have probably locked you up. At least they did a payment plan.

[Caller]

I know. Yes, that's what I'm saying. He's very good and the food is delicious. Maya's Bar and Restaurant on East Tremont. If you're ever out, just go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But Maya's on East.

[Caller]

Y' all want to bless.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, help her out a little bit. You know, only nine people ate, only nine people drank. Yeah, Maya's. Help her out a little bit.

[DJ Envy]

If that ain't Maya's fault.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know, but help out ain't my fault.

[DJ Envy]

That is not my fault. Gotta do a goddamn thing.

[Caller]

He is helping me. He is helping me. He's working with me. So he did a pl. I just want to shout out his dress on, cuz he's a dope person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, go. Go to my sister Maya. Maybe Maya can take off some more.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, that's what's up.

[Caller]

That too. I know. Can I just put my cash out in case somebody want to bless me and feel desperate for a girl?

[DJ Envy]

Man, this is crazy. Yo, Charlotte, it is everything going on in the world and you really gonna ask people for your cash out because people didn't show up to your birthday party? Come on now.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, it's not even that. It's because she got a whole big ass bill to pay by herself.

[DJ Envy]

That's her fault. She should have better friends that actually like her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, she doesn't.

[DJ Envy]

And she just found out the ask the public to cover that bill. No. God bless you, sweetheart. We love you. Have a great day.

[Caller]

When you.

[DJ Envy]

When you get on the radio and ask the public to send something to your cash app, it should be for dire needs, bro. Yeah, like, not this. Come on, man.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, but what if she has dire needs that she can't take care of because she had to pay $2,100 by herself?

[DJ Envy]

She should have thought about that beforehand. Maybe you should have had a smaller function. Or once again, have some friends that actually like you. Friends that actually like you. Take you out for your birthday.

[Jess Hilarious]

Exactly. Or it shouldn't have been at Myers, because a hundred dollars is steep for one night when people ain't got it right.

[DJ Envy]

Now.

[Jess Hilarious]

She should have did Golden Corral in the Bronx.

[DJ Envy]

That's what went to Golden Corral.

[Jess Hilarious]

She should have got lifted.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was like, $29.

[Nina Parker]

29.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, she would have been good.

[DJ Envy]

She would have been good. She did that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn.

[DJ Envy]

I agree. Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. Sorry, mama.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, if I had your cash out.

[Jess Hilarious]

I would have threw a dollar something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the event, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here with us. And we got some special guests in the building this morning.

[DJ Envy]

The host of the new show Friday night Vibes on tbs. Well, the new host of Friday night Vibes on tbs, Deena Parker and Kevin on stage. What's up, y'?

[Patience Foster]

All?

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling? I feel good. I brought that up. Cause, you know, Kev didn't talk about that last time he was here. And I saw Nina and Ken's, and Nina was like. Nina was like, I don't know why he was up there and did not mention that we in a new host of Friday night Vibes.

[Nina Parker]

Men be having tunnel vision. So you got all these other projects. He was. I watched the interview, and I was so excited. I was like, I can't wait till he mentions Friday night Vibes. Because we were in the middle of filming Friday night Vibes.

[DJ Envy]

As soon as I got home, I said, man, I knew nothing about it. I said, man, Friday Night Vibes. Friday Night Vibes.

[Nina Parker]

And I had just did Taryn hall. And I was like, kev, I mentioned you and shouted you out. They showed your picture on the back.

[DJ Envy]

I'm being gaslit. First of all, I feel the title. I'm being gaslit. I said it first. So it Means it's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe that's just not who you are, because, you know, one of your best friends was up here, right? Like, just right here. And when we told him that you were coming, he was like, he didn't even tell me he was here in New York.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Are y' all really best friends?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was like, we were playing pool.

[DJ Envy]

What is friendship?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he never.

[DJ Envy]

What is friendship?

[Nina Parker]

We saw him and we saw Tony.

[DJ Envy]

Just in the green room.

[Nina Parker]

I was like, what are you doing here?

[DJ Envy]

Tony didn't tell me he was doing.

[Nina Parker]

The Breakfast Club, but men don't share details like that. Like, if it would have been me and my homegirl, we would have been, like, at the hotel having breakfast before we came over. I feel like y' all just see each other when you see each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, you know, Tony had a show in New York.

[DJ Envy]

I did know that.

[Patience Foster]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I got tickets to a show. Oh, you was gonna surprise him. Yeah, I was gonna pull up on him. Yeah. Come on.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You brought the tickets and he gave.

[DJ Envy]

You the T. I always buy my tickets. I don't even play that. I'm not trying to hear it. Don't hit me, cuz. People you ain't even cool with. Like, what's up on the ticket? KevonStage.com is, what's up with them. My parents buy tickets to my show.

[Nina Parker]

I want to support. But then they want you to give up the tickets.

[DJ Envy]

No, that ain't support.

[OK Storytime Host]

The parents buy tickets to your show.

[DJ Envy]

My parents refuse to get free tickets. They're like, I believe in you and what you're doing. I'll go get tickets.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They know you made it, though, right? They there? No.

[Patience Foster]

Make sure they want.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Make sure they don't got loan you no money ever again.

[DJ Envy]

No. Well, yes, exactly. They're like, you keep doing good, son. You know what I'm saying? I need you to make it. You know, they not just testing you just to see if you going to say, no, no, no, y' all done enough. I got you n. They. They, I'm ticket.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, man, I fail that test.

[DJ Envy]

They. They. They buy them. They support.

[Nina Parker]

Now I know for the next show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got, I'm on my own.

[DJ Envy]

My friends, I don't mind. It's people I don't know. We ain't got a relationship. You trying to get the free tickets, man? Nah. Oh, okay. It's like a hookup. When I work in Popeyes, I give my friends a hookup. Not everybody. Like, you can't. What's up with the biscuits? You see the price that's true. How did this come together?

[Nina Parker]

You know what's crazy? We actually chem tested together. Kev and I knew each other only on social media. Like, I was a fan of his work, but we had never met, so we would, you know, exchange on social media. And then, you know, the show used to be hosted by Tiffany Haddish and Dion Cole. They were revamping it, and so they did, like, a big casting call. So when we got called, and sometimes when you get to a certain level, you're like, oh, I still got a chem test. I was like, so we did the Kim test, and it was. It was actually like a family reunion. It was about 20. About what, 15 women, 15 men.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nina Parker]

And we were chem testing with our friends, so it was like a big. We got in trouble.

[DJ Envy]

It took all day long.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

It was like, you. You spend five minutes with this person and, okay, y' all done? And this person. And when Nina and I went, it was like, this sounds cliche, but I was like, I forgot we were even auditioning. We were just chopping it up, and they stopped us. We were like, okay.

[Nina Parker]

I was like, this. We got this. Like, there's. Sometimes I feel like you get that little voice, you know, when you're. When you're in this industry, you just know when something is magic.

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely.

[Nina Parker]

And we were sitting next to each other, and it was so easy with him. And I've had a lot of co hosts over the years, and Kev is by far, like, the easiest person I've ever worked with.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you. That's the ultimate compliment, by the way.

[Nina Parker]

It's not. It's not to him. It's to his wife, Melissa.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Melissa.

[Nina Parker]

Because his wife is. He knows how to. There is a. There's a dance, as you guys know. And then when you have, like, a co host who. It knows how to communicate in a healthy way with a woman, it's just like. Even, like, he'll be like, do you need to sit?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, what?

[Nina Parker]

Because I'm used to people being like, get out the way. And it's just. He's very kind, so it just makes it so easy to work with.

[DJ Envy]

So. Nina. Oh, go ahead. I tell people that all the time. When somebody says you're easy to work with, that's beautiful. And when somebody says you're a pleasure to work with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You always work, work. Yeah. Because it's a long. The work is hard.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

So talent is evenly distributed, you know, in la, New York, But. But good people to work with is not so much. And then it's already stressful. You got early call times and all that stuff. If you're also a jerk on top of that, it's like, bro, I don't even want to do it.

[Nina Parker]

It's life, be life. And as you know. So it's like. It's hard to get on and have to, like, turn all of that off, you know, when filming. So when you have somebody that's like, Kev is really, like, my real life brother, you know, I really love him. I love his wife. Like, we have dinners. Like, it's so. It's just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It doesn't.

[Nina Parker]

It truly doesn't feel like work. So we just be cutting up. And, you know, this show really allowed me to, like, be funny and, like, really tap into. Because I feel like I've done so much formal journalism. This was like a different. This was more vulnerable. And Kev is more my coach sometimes where he's like, just say it. Like, no. You know, because I'm so trained that sometimes it's a little bit more stiff. So he's like, just say it. They ain't gonna care.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. And he didn't help me, too, because I. I had never done official tv, Never worked off a prompter before. So the first day, I was like, dang, man. This is, like. There's a lot of pressure, and you can't really mess up. It's time for you to do your job. Right.

[Jess Hilarious]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

And he was like, oh, it's all good.

[Nina Parker]

This is how you do it.

[DJ Envy]

Let's run through it once. And, Nina, man, let me tell you what. She big sis for real. Cause I don't be wanting to do stuff. She be like, ah, we ain't doing that, y'.

[Chris Brickley]

All.

[DJ Envy]

We are doing this. Like, you can tell she's been in the game for a long time. Never rude or anything like that, but she. She knows how to assert herself, and people respect her for that. And I'm more of like, I ain't never done this, so whatever y' all say is cool.

[Nina Parker]

But also, when you've done it a long time, you know, when people are padding time like you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't need.

[DJ Envy]

We.

[Nina Parker]

We got this. We can just roll through this like, y' all ain't gotta baby us. Like, we gonna come in, we gonna knock this out, and we gonna go home. Everybody gonna get home on time. Y' all a gotta pay overtime.

[DJ Envy]

Let's go. Is it. Is it hard for you, Kev, being on a production that you don't control. No, low key. Actually, it's freeing because you like being so. What to do? Oh, my God, he likes it. There's a certain amount of stress when you control it. Like, the talent is just one aspect. Then you gotta worry about the budget and the control and the edit and the delivery. Friday Night vibes, brother. When it's over. All right, y'.

[Caller]

All.

[DJ Envy]

See y' all tomorrow. And it's. It is a. It is a welcome reprieve from having a duo. I don't want to have to worry about post edit deliveries. Time code, you know, S and P.

[Nina Parker]

Leaving at the door.

[DJ Envy]

Leave it at the door. Coffee? Yes. What time is lunch? Okay, perfect. See y' all tomorrow. I just come on time, do my job, chop it up with Nina. I knew we was cool. Nina let me. She was getting braided down. She's like, come on, drink.

[Patience Foster]

Oh, y' all real friends.

[DJ Envy]

I said, as a black man, you let me see the breakdown. That's real. The breakdown is intimate. Tell me real quick, close the door. Get braided down. But no, that's why I think that camaraderie and chemistry from the audition through the show, it just carries on throughout. And then that's why the show feels so natural. Our guests come on. They feel really natural with us. You know what I'm saying?

[Nina Parker]

And it doubled the rating. So we did the first season. We only had, like, 12 episodes, so it was just the first Friday of every month, which right now, you know, TV is very difficult. They actually doubled our episode order because they were saying that our. Our interviews with each other and with our guests were spiking over the movies. Yeah. So, I mean, listen, to get a double order during this time, we feel very blessed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're still kicking it with Nina Parker and Kev on stage. Their new show, Friday Night Vibes, is on tbs. Was it toxic working there?

[DJ Envy]

Envy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What?

[Nina Parker]

I mean, listen, this is. I've heard it's not like that anymore. I don't know. And this is. This is one of the reasons you and I haven't talked, because I checked out of all things tmz. I never watched the show again. When I stopped, like, I didn't. I stopped communi. I didn't use. I'm not communicating with people I knew. But anything. Like, I just kind of shut that part of my brain off because I had a lot of ptsd, and it was. You have to think about it. This was like the. The birth of new age media. There were no rules, so we would work, like, 14 hours a day. You would get in trouble for taking a lunch. You couldn't leave, like your desk. You had to answer your phone at 4 in the morning. It was. You would work weekends and you couldn't say no.

[Patience Foster]

We would.

[Nina Parker]

People would walk around with their laptop. We would go to a concert. You have to have your laptop in your bag because if you got a call at 4 and you didn't answer, you would get fired.

[Patience Foster]

It was over for you.

[Nina Parker]

It was over for you.

[DJ Envy]

So.

[Nina Parker]

And I made the decision to participate in that because I didn't have anybody. I didn't have anything else. I didn't have a team. We were kind of deterred from getting a team. Like, you know, so the things I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Know now, this is pre HR there. This is because HR was new. When I got.

[DJ Envy]

There was no hr, no hr.

[Lauren LaRosa]

HR was very new. And there was no. The union. Things that come in when you have union protection, they got written that didn't exist back then.

[Nina Parker]

Like they had telepictures. That was the parent company that technically you could go. But you didn't know anybody there because they weren't. You only knew who was in the. The building. So it was. It was really the Wild West. And I probably. I mean, when Michael Jackson died, I didn't leave the office for three days.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Nina Parker]

Like, we slept there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that was your salary of $50,000 or less. Whatever.

[Nina Parker]

I mean, I think I was still making like the PA salary then, which was. I think I had got boosted to like 650 a week.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Crazy thing is, when Lauren started working here, you ever see that dog that they. And I'm not comparing you to a dog, but that dog that when you get out the shelter, right, and you put your hand up to pet it and the dog is scared. That's how Lauren was working here. Lauren was like, wait a minute, you guys just said, good job. Like it was.

[Nina Parker]

I'm like, what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought she was joking. Then I realized, no, she was traumatized.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like it was crazy.

[DJ Envy]

I still won't tell her that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No.

[DJ Envy]

How long were you there?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was at TMZ for eight years. And when you come in, you hear well from the black people there. You hear so much about you. Van was always really big about, you know, talking to me about you. He was there when I was. When I was there, so was Raquel. And then they left. And when they left, it was me. And I was like, what?

[Nina Parker]

At least you had the camaraderie.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But then they left, right? And then George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery happened And was like, oh, and you're fighting by yourself.

[Nina Parker]

Because there's a lot of microaggressions. There's macro, too. And one of the things that was hard for me was, like, at the time, and this was before Van even got there, I was the only black person on camera.

[Patience Foster]

Camera.

[Nina Parker]

And so.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You are so sick.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. The story she tell me.

[Jess Hilarious]

I sound.

[Nina Parker]

And you feel an obligation, but sometimes you're tired, right?

[Patience Foster]

And you don't know you supposed to be saying half the time.

[Nina Parker]

But the thing is, with black talent especially, you don't have the. The luxury of being silent when it's a black issue. Because they're gonna look at you in this room full of white people and wonder why you didn't say anything. They're not gonna think about, like, I've been doing this every single day. I got a migraine. I'm tired. Like, I'm tired of arguing. I know they're race baiting me. They bait you on purpose. But at the same time, I'm like, I got to think about the people who are watching that look like me, that are like, mina, why didn't you speak up? But you know, you know, as you age, fighting every day gets exhausting. And also when you getting baited, because it's like, I don't mind having a healthy discussion, but you purposely trying to bait me to have this conversation so you can have content. And I'm not really with that. And so you get tired of being used. You get tired of, like, women being talked about. You know, you feel like, I'm in this space. When I was there, it was very toxic. Like, we would get. They had a relationship with Vivid, because, you know of Kim Kardashian sex tape. And they. Vivid would send, like, sex tapes in, and sometimes people would just watch them in the office, you know, and it was like, you were like, what am I? What's going on? But then also you're like, well, what are my other options? And that's when you start to build these relationships. So you, like, I gotta make an exit plan.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I had a. I just wanna say this real quick that we can move away from tmz. Cause you have moved away.

[Patience Foster]

Yes, but I met you.

[DJ Envy]

I find out so much about y'.

[Caller]

All.

[Nina Parker]

We've been in the trenches.

[DJ Envy]

You ain't never said nothing about this. I met.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Met you a long time ago in la. And our interaction, you weren't rude, but it just wasn't the best. And when I was about to leave, Ben was like, you should call Nina. And I was like, I don't think she cares for me that much. And he was like why? And I was like, well. And I told him. But now hearing your I don't know if you even knew who I was, but if so, I'm thinking like maybe that had nothing to do with that. But I never thought about there's something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Special about folks who come through without being asked. Like your coworker surprising you with your favorite coffee just because. Or your friend handing you the aux cord the moment you get into the car. No debate, no fight, just positive vibes that kind of love. It just hits different. And that's exactly the energy AT&T is on with their new guarantee if there's ever a network interruption, AT&T will proactively credit you for a full day of service. No calls, no emails, no jumping through hoops. It's just handled. It's like the universe saying I got you. Except this time it's not the stars aligning, it's your network. And let's be real, that connection is everything. Whether you're holding down the group chat, checking in on your parents scrolling TikTok your network's gotta come through. And if there's a problem, AT&T is on the case. No stress, no drama, just real backup when it counts. Credit for Fiber downtime lasting 20 minutes or more or wireless downtime lasting 60 minutes or more caused by a single incident impacting 10 or more towers. Restrictions and exclusions apply. See att.com guaranty for full details. AT and T Connecting changes everything.

[Commercial Announcer]

This Labor Day. Say goodbye to spills, stains and overpriced furniture with washablesofas.com featuring Anabe, the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly pricing. Sofas start at just $6.99, making it the perfect time to upgrade your space. Anibe's pet friendly stain resistant and interchangeable tangible slipcovers are made with high performance fabric built for real life. You'll love the cloud like comfort of hypoallergenic high resilience foam that never needs fluffing and a durable steel frame that stands the test of time with modular pieces you can rearrange anytime. It's a sofa that adapts to your life. Now through Labor Day. Get up to 60% off site [e-mail] Every order comes with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not in love, send it back back for a full refund. No return shipping, no restocking fees. Every Penny back shop [e-mail] Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[OK Storytime Host]

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, wait a minute, Sam.

[OK Storytime Host]

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the okay Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

[Caller]

Now hold up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Isn't that against school policy?

[OK Storytime Host]

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then it's even more likely that they're cheating.

[OK Storytime Host]

He insists there's nothing between them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, do you believe him?

[OK Storytime Host]

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So do we find out if this.

[OK Storytime Host]

Person'S boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Patience Foster]

Hello, it's Danielle Fishel, Ryder Strong and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Will Friedle from Pod Meets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content.

[Patience Foster]

That's right, we are back in Las.

[Commercial Announcer]

Vegas, the city of sin and giving the people what they want.

[Patience Foster]

A full week of Y2K content.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait, we're back in Vegas?

[Patience Foster]

Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency, it's Sphere, of course.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We sat down with Kevin Richardson and AJ McLean just minutes before they took the stage. And our very own Will Friedle basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please.

[Commercial Announcer]

Plus, the man who has the longest.

[Patience Foster]

Running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's Carrot Top, baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And finally, we all L O V e her.

[OK Storytime Host]

Ashley Simpson Ross joins us to talk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

About her upcoming sold out Vegas residency.

[Patience Foster]

It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss.

[Chris Brickley]

Listen to Pod Meets World on the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This because when you're in that environment, you think it's regular, you think it's okay, right? I never thought about like what your post life felt like mentally having to go through and deal with all of that.

[Jess Hilarious]

How that does that got to do.

[DJ Envy]

With you telling the world that Nina was rude to you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, I said she.

[DJ Envy]

That had nothing to do with nothing. Like, why would you do that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

The reason why I'm saying you could.

[DJ Envy]

Have said that off the ed.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The reason why I want to say that is because now I'm sitting here and I felt your emotion just now we were talking about your experience, and I identify with it so much, and it made me think about if I were to run into someone right. In that same predicament, unknowingly, I might not. Like, you know. Do you know what I'm trying to say?

[Nina Parker]

Well, you're reacting to the place, not the person. And so you, you know, it's like if someone brings up a relationship that hurts you, you're kind of like. Especially if you're not in a space to, like, say you're not thinking about it, and it jars you for a second where you're just like, like. And also, I'm very media trained. Right. So sometimes I don't want to speak bad on a place, and I don't know if my experience will be your experience.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[Nina Parker]

So there's a lot I can't say to you without saying it right.

[Patience Foster]

Yes.

[Nina Parker]

Where I can. It's like, how do I tell this person they're in the. In the trenches and, like, get out quickly.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Nina Parker]

Because that may not be your journey. So how do I say that to you? Because it's so nuanced. So it's just such a layered thing. So sometimes if, like, people come up me, like, I'm at tmz, I'm kind.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Of like, exactly how I was. I'm like, yeah.

[Caller]

I don't.

[Nina Parker]

I don't know what to tell you because this is. It's only something you understand if you've been there. It's like being in a sorority, but at the same time, and I think I've just healed from being there probably within the last, like, four years, four or five years.

[Jess Hilarious]

You.

[Nina Parker]

I have this thing now where I'm. My friends say I'm the fastest responder because you had to be this thing. Right. I always. Even now, I'm not really in news anymore. Like, I'm a host for shows, and even now I feel like I gotta look at these headlines. I'm like, what am I doing? I ain't posting about no news. I'm the first to post. Post a tweet about it.

[DJ Envy]

Like, what am I?

[Nina Parker]

So you have these things. So I don't remember the. The.

[Caller]

The.

[Nina Parker]

The interaction, but I'll say that it. It was so traumatizing that sometimes it was hard to react positively about it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nina Parker]

And also, you know, as you grow, you learn how to temper that a little bit better.

[DJ Envy]

Friday night vibes on tbs, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Definitely. Check it out. We appreciate you guys for coming up.

[DJ Envy]

And don't be strangers. You could come.

[Nina Parker]

All right, Kev, I feel like you.

[DJ Envy]

Didn'T get a girl. I was watching, too. I was like, oh, my God, this is really happening. They gonna put this on tmz.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Please come up more.

[DJ Envy]

Come up more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If y' all in town, please come up. We had to wait seven years to get Cav, so.

[Nina Parker]

Yes, well, y' all just had him, so.

[DJ Envy]

Nina, this was fine. I was fully. I was in the. I was tweeting. You was in the comments. But, Nina, your line is still in stores.

[Nina Parker]

Yes, yes, I have a. I have a clothing line for. Plus women, sizes 12. 12 to 30. Is. Yes, it's in stores. It's at Macy's. It's doing very well. And so this is one of the designs. So, yeah, it's. Do you know the multiple streams.

[DJ Envy]

I always need that big Nina parking, not the little. Keep a check.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, Nina Parker, Kevin on stage. Friday night vibes on tbs. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, phone lines are wide open. 800-585-105 this morning. They have been calling me Flex Washington. Flexington. Yes, and a host of others. And why is this, Jess?

[Jess Hilarious]

Because you made a video the other day that hit the shave room that made it seem like you was trying to go save your dogs from the rain. I don't know who the hell think dogs got to be saved from the rain. But you had the video selfie style, right? To show the big castle that you live in in the back. Instead of showing the dogs, the objective was to show you rescuing the dogs from the rain.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You finally got them from their one bedroom apartment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was training the dog.

[Jess Hilarious]

You wanted us to even see how big the cages were. He stood in the cage. And DJ Envy is not. Not sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I put that case together. I got it from tractor Supply, by the way.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Think about that. You were standing in the cage.

[Jess Hilarious]

How much were those cages?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I put them together myself from Tractor Supply and I was showing the process. I've talked about these two puppies that my kids and family wanted. We got these dogs, and now nobody helps me with these dogs. I have to do it every day and train These dogs, those are some big puppies.

[DJ Envy]

Imagine a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They were born on March 9th.

[DJ Envy]

Imagine a plane flying over that house and seeing you in that cage and thinking to themselves, oh, my God, they got Dominicans in cages in New Jersey.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was big.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Did you see the cage?

[DJ Envy]

Crazy. Cages are not that big. I didn't. I didn't see the cage. I saw him running in the backyard, though, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but it was. It's what I did to, you know, to. To show people that when. When your kids say they want dogs, just know that it's all on you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You multitask is on another level. We work at the Breakfast Club.

[Jess Hilarious]

You could have came in here and got it off your chest about that. That you did not have to make a selfie style video to show your house in the back.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Never dropped the phone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It wasn't for that. It was. It was for my TikTok, if you follow me. On Tik Tok, I explained some of the things that I do just show fun. Just be being fun and doing certain things.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Your phone is waterproof.

[Jess Hilarious]

What's the craziest waterproof?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is my phone waterproof? Is your phone waterproof?

[Nina Parker]

I don't know, but I'm asking you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You was pouring down, raining.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. It works in water.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, it does.

[Jess Hilarious]

Tax bracket. What's the craziest way y' all ever flesh? Next craziest thing.

[DJ Envy]

What about you, J?

[Jess Hilarious]

I don't do that, Jax.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But every time you talk about your crib, you say. She doesn't say her house, my estate.

[DJ Envy]

And then when I'm not in a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Penthouse in Jersey City, I'm in my stock.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And then when. Look, she was. She was talking to me about her daughter's first birthday, and it was very casual. She was like, so, okay, this is my house. I don't put this here, this there. I'm like. It's an aerial shot of a huge plot of land.

[Jess Hilarious]

I was like, okay, Jess, but I'm not going to. To fake save no dogs to show that.

[Caller]

All right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not going to do it.

[DJ Envy]

What about you? What about you, Lauren?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't flex.

[Nina Parker]

You flex your hair. Her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn it, man. All right, listen.

[DJ Envy]

Lauren's head. Lauren's head ain't nothing flex about Lauren. Stiff. Listen, that hair is stiff. You hear me? Flexible. About Lauren's hair.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hair by lj. This don't come cheap. This is virgin. This is a good two racks. Don't play with me, okay? The install is installing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello.

[Jess Hilarious]

Good morning. Who's this?

[Caller]

Yo, yo, what's up? This is J, the cable guy.

[Jess Hilarious]

Good morning, J. Cable guy.

[Caller]

What's going on?

[Jess Hilarious]

Not much. What's the craziest thing you did to flex?

[Caller]

So check this out, right? This is back. Back in my heyday. I say about 2000. I was really jockeying this girl, trying to get her to go out. She finally accepted it. We went on a date, Right. So I'm really trying to flex. I checked my bank account on speakerphone in front of her just to watch her reaction. And I think around that time it was about, you know, 104,000.

[DJ Envy]

Woo. 2,000.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You wanted her to hear that.

[Caller]

This was my contracting days, you know, when 99, you was running nicers and all that. It's all legit now, but.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Caller]

That was the craziest thing I did to flex.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What did she say when you did that?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, what was her reaction?

[Chris Brickley]

Action.

[Caller]

Oh, oh. The attitude changed. The attitude went straight from, you know, Willis and Diddy to is this something serious with us? Is this. Do you see yourself going forward with this? And I was like, yeah, okay, yeah, sure, sure.

[DJ Envy]

What did you hit, bro? Did you hit? Did you hit?

[Caller]

Look, I. I'm not gonna kiss and tell. I'm not gonna kiss and tell, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

2000.

[DJ Envy]

It was 25 years out.

[Caller]

It did work out okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You smashed.

[Jess Hilarious]

Probably married her. Probably married to her to this day. That's why.

[Caller]

No, no, hell no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't worry.

[Jess Hilarious]

Come on. And who's this?

[Caller]

Yo, you know the vibes of Melo. How you doing, Melo?

[Jess Hilarious]

What's up? What's the craziest thing you ever did to Flex like your boy Envy?

[Caller]

Oh, I'm not even going. First off, can we drop one of Cool's bombs for Envy for flexing so hard? That was fake fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You saw the video.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You saw the video.

[DJ Envy]

That was fake fire. That was fake fire.

[Caller]

But it's all right though. Take it. But I'm not gonna hold you. Back in the days, in my younger days, I was on some Drake. I was on some Drake Comments and you know, Nokia. I was like, yo, you want shots for the girls and order something? And you know what I mean? I shouldn't have did that. And I had to pretty much keep ordering shots until my direct deposit hit.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn.

[Caller]

You know what I mean? And I feel like that's the wildest thing I've ever done. Cause I was sitting there for an additional hour and a half, bro.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What you would have did if the deposit was like late or like your bank, you know what I mean? Sometimes it'd be off. Like what you would have done.

[Caller]

I'm not even gonna hold you. He was in a karaoke bar. And I can sing. I would have dispatched them. My word, I would have. You know, I mean, they call me Trey Rooms in the hood. I'm not even gonna lie to you. Like, stop playing with me.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, yeah. Goodbye, Mellow. Listen, I want to tell everybody, too. I want to remind people in Charleston, South Carolina, that today at noon, the International African American Museum is going to be absolutely free. Okay? Myself and the Black Effect Podcast network sponsored a free at the International African American Museum in Charleston starting at noon today. So if you off for Labor Day, gather the kids and, you know, go to the International African American Museum starting today at noon. It is completely free. Admission is free.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's EJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. Well, we got a special guest in the building.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, indeed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She's the only other person from Delaware that I know of.

[DJ Envy]

You know Joe Biden, President Biden.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Joe Biden. Yes, yes, I know him as well and you know, as Patience. What the. Patience false is here, ladies and gentlemen.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You guys, tell her what you're talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm about to, you know, on Imaginary Players, she says impatience.

[Patience Foster]

What the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When she's about to, I guess, do something she's not supposed to. Impatience.

[DJ Envy]

So she said, patience. Be like Cardi. That's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. When Cardi's about to do something she's not supposed to, I guess you pop up in a mind like Cardi.

[DJ Envy]

What, the founder and CEO of Cream Labs. But, you know, she's behind, you know, some of the biggest artists rollouts in hip hop. Correct. Right. And you've been with cardi since day one.

[Patience Foster]

Yeah. 10 years.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Patience Foster]

Yes, 10 years as of September of this year.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, let's start there. How did you meet Cardi? And how did you get on part of her team?

[Patience Foster]

Oh, I love this story. So when I had my son, I decided not to go back. Back and work for Hertz. I was renting cars.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hurts. Okay.

[Patience Foster]

After I graduated college, I ended up having to rent cars. There were no jobs. So I decided to open up a salon in Wilmington called Vixated. The salon with my tax refund money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren needed you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

First of all, I've been supporting since day one. We was in there doing all the. I was in the photo shoot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Too, because. Continue on.

[Patience Foster]

You know what?

[Caller]

So.

[Patience Foster]

So basically I was, was, you know, just operating in the salon, but I opened the salon because I always wanted to be a publicist. So I'm like, I'm gonna use my stylist as like my case studies, my clients while I self teach myself, right. So I would look for opportunities for them outside of the booth was like my selling point. So fast forward maybe four years. My partner actually, who's here, he was bringing a lot of talent and celebrities to Wilmington. And we're a very, very small market, so there's not a ton of talent that comes in and out of Wilmington, especially because we're so close to Philly.

[DJ Envy]

22 parties or something.

[Patience Foster]

So he would throw live events. There were a ton of different events and talented celebrities that, you know, he would bring out. So my stylists were telling me, hey, this girl named Cardi is coming to Delaware. She's coming to dance. We want to do her hair and makeup. I didn't follow her at the time, but I, you know, I followed their lead and I reached out to Bun and asked him, you know, would you mind putting in a word with, with Cardi and her management? You know, we'll do her hair and her makeup at no cost. So he followed through and he made the connection, the very first connection between myself and Cardi. And she pulled up with her manager at the time and a PT Cruiser. She had this orange wig on. She came in, yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Shaft. Shaft had a PT Cruiser.

[Patience Foster]

This was so early on. This was like literally like before love and hip hop era.

[DJ Envy]

Any Haitian?

[Patience Foster]

So, yeah, she pulled up, she got her hair and makeup done, and she was just like, you want to come to the club with me? And I'm like, cool. You know, I got a sitter. Why not? So we go to the club and she gets dressed. She asked me to help me pick her money up while she's dancing. We order some wings, we go our separate ways at the end of the night. And about maybe a month or two later, I had started filling out internship applications because I was just like, I'm 26. I think I was. How old was I? Oh, my gosh, I was 26. And I'm like, you know, my son is 2, 3 at the time. I really still want to be a publicist. I need to make a move. So I just started filling out all of these internship applications for Fashion Week, which is kind of what segued us into that space. And I took an internship. I slept on my friend's couch in Newark, New Jersey. And maybe my third day on the job, I ran into Cardi backstage. She was walking in the gypsy sports show because they wanted all, like, Internet or, you know, social media personalities. And she was like, oh, like, what are you doing here? Are you doing hair? And I was like, no, I'm a publicist. She was like, oh, I need one of those. And I was like, okay. And her and Shaft invited me to dinner that night. And I walked in, and they introduced me as her new publicist. And that's how.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Jess Hilarious]

That is what's up.

[DJ Envy]

This is before rap. This is before love and hip hop. Before everything. Wow.

[Patience Foster]

We were selling makeup, wash, popping. Cosmetics.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, before a lot of everything.

[Patience Foster]

The cosmetics.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm sorry, your hair salon.

[Patience Foster]

Oh, no, no. So as we continued to, like, grow and the business grew, I, you know, leveraged my. What I was building with her into an agency, which is how Cream Labs came about. And, you know, I decided that, you know, maybe like, six years after having the salon open, I just didn't have the capacity or the bandwidth to do it. And the industry and the salon, like, the salon industry has shifted so much. People wanted their own suites, their own brands. So I just focused on building out and expanding the agency. But that's what, you know, all of it led up into building with Cardi.

[Jess Hilarious]

I love that story.

[DJ Envy]

Did you do her head for her recent court case? The wig compliments?

[Jess Hilarious]

She don't do head no more.

[Patience Foster]

I was here for the wigs, like, definitely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But talk about that. I mean, Charlay mentioned that. It's funny, but I think even when we saw her switching wigs recently, people instantly started remembering the first time we saw her in court. And everything was a moment when she was showing up to court. Right. And you guys have been really good about making moments from the beginning. Was Cardi always the artist that wanted to do that? Did you have to talk her into it? How did. What was her first moment where she's like, I needed. This is how I need to live the rest of my career.

[DJ Envy]

Ooh.

[Patience Foster]

Her first moment, I would say it was the week that we met, the week that we decided to work with each other, which was Fashion Week. And I say that because the way that she showed up. So once we decided, like, all right, we're gonna work together, there was a few shows left, and the last show that normally happens during Fashion Week was the Blondes. So, you know, as an intern, my job was to get people from their black trucks to the front. You know, to their front row seat. So I'm like, you know, nobody really knows you outside of the personality that you built on social media, let's just start increasing your visibility right away. And again, I'm like self teaching myself at this point. I'm just doing what feels right. So I told her to come to the show and I was just gonna seat her and I'm like, just come and just look like you belong. Like she shows up in a turban, these like wooden nipple pasties and like a flared bell bottom pant. And everybody was just like, if they didn't know who she was, they wanted to know who she was. And I just set her. I just found a spot on the front row and just set her. And that told me that she was number one. She was willing to be collaborative and trusting. It wasn't like, why I gotta do this or I'm not really invited, I don't wanna show up. You're not gonna always get an invite in the very beginning. Sometimes you gotta show people why you should be invited. Right? And that does come with a risk obviously. But she was willing to like thug it. She like, okay, where I gotta be, I'm gonna show up. What I gotta wear, okay, I'm there. And she just went with it. So at that moment I knew like she loved and wanted to leave an impression wherever she went and really make a moment. And I think we just always carried that same energy throughout everything we did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love that. Cause that cardi b as a person, a lot of times people don't hear that side of it. Charlamagne and myself, we seen her early on. So we've seen the grind. We've seen her eating the McDonald's in the morning, we've seen her going to the teen parties and we've seen that grind. And the clubs and the strip clubs and the regular clubs and it is so I love that story because it shows that, you know, sometimes people like, oh no, she's this, she's that. No, she deserves to be here. She worked her ass to get here.

[Patience Foster]

Absolutely against all odds. And it was, it's great that, that I was so fortunate to number one be, you know, just given the space to like, we gonna figure this out together. You've never been necessarily a publicist of x amount of years. I've never been a superstar. Like, we just gonna figure this out and trust in one another's intuition and one another's vision. And she literally like being there to see all the no's. I love that I'm still in a seat to be able to see all of those people just Eat their words. Like, so many people were just like, it'll never happen for her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're still kicking it with patience.

[Jess Hilarious]

For Jess, I love more particularly about your story, how you went through, how you used the hair industry to step into.

[Nina Parker]

Pr.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, that is so dope.

[Patience Foster]

Yeah, it was. I mean, living in a place like Wilmington and Lauren knows, like, we're. We're Delaware down. Wherever we go, it's like, yes, we're from Delaware, but this, the community and the network is so small, it's so limited. And to be in a space like, like public relations, you have to put yourself in. In spaces where you can rub elbows and kiss babies and build a network. So I still felt like before I put myself out there, I wanted to have enough confidence and experience just from an entry level point of view. So looking at my stylist more like clients was really what helped me to feel like, okay, I got enough confidence to, like, walk into a space and feel like I know how to represent people, even if it's on a small level. I felt like I had the fundamentals to represent someone and help leverage whatever talent they have into a brand. I didn't know that that's what I was doing so early on, but now that I'm much more aware of my capabilities and what I'm able to do, I know that I'm able to take talent and leverage that into a brand. A brand that is sustainable outside of just one category.

[DJ Envy]

Let me ask you a question. What's the difference between managing talent and managing. Managing the perception of the talent?

[Patience Foster]

I mean, I think that that's a piece of it, managing the perception of the talent, because the perception is essential to the value of the brand at the end of the day. But managing the talent, I mean, I think there's a lot of different aspects to managing the talent you have day to day. You need someone who's consistently paying attention to the logistics, the calendar, all of the things that keep everything moving. And then you have people that have their expertise. You have your music managers, you have your brand managers. And I think managing the talent overall is just making sure that there's consistently a strategy, there's consistently a plan. Like, I don't know if people think that it's just we're just winging it. Like, there's always a plan and there's always a goal. There's always, like, we know exactly what it is that we want to do and what we want to accomplish. But I think really managing the talent is understanding the product itself, which is what the talent is, whether it's music, whether it's making clothes, whatever it is. And then understanding how you create a relationship that's engaging with that audience in a way that grows the brand, that builds value in the brand. Because at the end of the day, you want to be able to leverage that brand into something that is legacy forging.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But let me ask you a question. How do you decide when somebody's a friend or when somebody's a client? Right. Because you're going to have clients that pay you for certain things. But I'm assuming Cardi B is not just a client.

[Patience Foster]

She.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She's your friend.

[DJ Envy]

Meaning you can see that.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, like, so if you're working with somebody and now Cardi B. Is beefing with that person, you can't work with that person anymore. But with a client, it's just like. It's just a check. So how do you decide that? And if Cardi's like, you know, let's say it's not rocking with somebody, you say, all right, well, I can't work with that person anymore. How does that work?

[Patience Foster]

I mean, that's a very real thing. Like, and I think also it's just, what is your philosophy as. What is your philosophy as entrepreneur or boss or whatever it is that you do? Right. And I feel like whatever your philosophy is and your principles are is how you. You show up when it comes to making those type of decisions. And my philosophy is a lot different from other people. Like, there is no real defining line between personal and business. Like, my business is very personal. Like, my business feeds my kid. My business builds my livelihood and keeps my livelihood and maintains a lifestyle that I like to live. Like, so my business is very personal because, you know, you compromise my business now you're compromising the way I eat. So when it comes to Cardi and any other client, and anyone can tell you, like, wherever there are boundaries or there's an opposition or someone that, you know, has done something in a way that not only makes them feel away, but has messed with their business and their livelihood. I could never do business with you.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[Patience Foster]

And that's just what it is. Like, I think some people try to convince themselves that it's okay because it's just business, but there is no way that you don't have an emotional attachment or a personal relationship with somebody that you go into a conference room or on a conference call every day and fight for them to eat. We gotta have a personal relationship that doesn't turn off. When I decide I want to take another check from somebody that doesn't align with you. Like we gotta be on the same side for this to work.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Do you guys generally only manage this?

[Commercial Announcer]

Labor Day say goodbye to spills, stains and overpriced furniture with washablesofas.com featuring Annabe, the only machine washable sofa inside an actual out where designer quality meets budget friendly pricing. Sofas start at just $6.99, making it the perfect time to upgrade your space. Anibe's pet friendly stain resistant and interchangeable slipcovers are made with high performance fabric built for real life. You'll love the cloud like comfort of hypoallergenic high resilience foam that never needs fluffing and a durable steel frame that stands the test of time. With modular pieces you can rearrange range anytime. It's a sofa that adapts to your life. Now through Labor Day. Get up to 60% off site [e-mail] Every order comes with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not in love, send it back for a full refund. No return shipping, no restocking fees, every penny back. Shop [e-mail] Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[OK Storytime Host]

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, wait a minute, Sam.

[OK Storytime Host]

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakot, back to school week on the okay Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

[Caller]

Now hold up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Isn't that against school policy?

[OK Storytime Host]

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor. And they're the same age.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tends even more likely that they're cheating.

[OK Storytime Host]

He insists there's nothing between them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, do you believe him?

[OK Storytime Host]

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So do we find out if this.

[OK Storytime Host]

Person'S boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the okay Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Patience Foster]

Hello, it's Danielle Fishel, writer, strong and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Will Friedel from Pod Meets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content.

[Patience Foster]

That's right, we are back in Las.

[Commercial Announcer]

Vegas, the city of sin and giving the people what they want.

[Patience Foster]

A full week of Y2K content.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait, we're back in Vegas?

[Jess Hilarious]

Tell me why.

[Patience Foster]

Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency, it's Sphere, of course.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We sat down with Kevin Richardson and AJ McLean just minutes before they took the stage. And our very own Will Friedle basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please.

[Commercial Announcer]

Plus, the man who has the longest.

[Patience Foster]

Running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's Carrot Top, baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And finally, we all L O V e her.

[OK Storytime Host]

Ashley Simpson Ross joins us to talk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

About her upcoming sold out Vegas residency.

[Patience Foster]

It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss.

[Chris Brickley]

Listen to Pod meets world on the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Patience Foster]

Hi, I'm Jenica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcomer podcast, I'm.

[Commercial Announcer]

Taking you on an exciting journey of self reflection.

[Patience Foster]

Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship?

[Chris Brickley]

Am I ready to have kids and.

[Patience Foster]

To really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did.

[Commercial Announcer]

Join me for conversations about healing and growth.

[Patience Foster]

Life is freaking hard, and growth doesn't happen in comfort. It happens in motion, even when you're hurting. All from one of my favorite spaces, the kitchen. Honestly, these are gonna come out so freaking amazing. Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcome for podcast as part of the Michael Tura Podcast Network on the.

[Commercial Announcer]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you.

[Patience Foster]

Get your podcast.

[Jess Hilarious]

Artists, or is it actresses? Is actress. Do you do.

[Patience Foster]

Yeah, we're not specific to artists. For the company that we've recently announced and built Fifth and Freedom, it's not just specific to artists, it's just specific to talent. But talent that is talent that I can see true value in. Because one of the main things about fifth and Freedom is that it's a new way of management and it's a new way of looking at talent where some people are just more reactive. They're waiting on an email, they're waiting for a deal, they're waiting a response. Like, it's about being proactive, but also making sure that we're not limiting the talent to this one category, that we're building a brand that can sustain over years without necessarily having to be active in one category. So it's about like, building legacy equitable opportunities, like joint ventures, things that, you know, at the end of the day, they'll have something to pass down or they'll have something to fall back on because everybody doesn't. Whether you're an artist, whether you're an influencer, you may not want to make content every single day. Once you reach a certain point, it gets tiring. You may not be inspired. You may not be ready to drop a project every other month to meet a certain goal or drop a single. Right. But how are you sustaining in between time? I think that comes from, like, building real brand value. So that way you can, you know, build a true legacy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How do you deal with somebody like.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Lauren, first of all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right. No, I'm serious. Right. Because you know, Lauren from Delaware.

[Caller]

Huh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But she should see, she thinks, let.

[DJ Envy]

Her ask a question yet. And she's from Delaware.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She knows patience are best friends.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. I want you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to know how do you deal with her?

[DJ Envy]

So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Meaning, you know, she's a. She's going to poke the bear. She's going to find out the story. But that's your client.

[Caller]

Right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I'm a call.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So she gonna call you and say, I just heard this, but you don't want the story out. Or maybe the story's wrong. In most cases you can just say, give the middle finger, keep it moving. But now with her, and I've heard her call you mad times, mad times. So how do you deal with somebody that. That's a friend, but you have a client.

[DJ Envy]

This here can't hold water for nothing.

[Jess Hilarious]

Excuse me.

[DJ Envy]

You right?

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm like, neither can you.

[DJ Envy]

So how do you know Nothing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're not asking anything that's wrong.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But like I said, so. So how do you deal with like, you know, because you have relationships with tmz, you have relationships with Lauren and these blogs. So how do you deal with that?

[Patience Foster]

I mean, I think, like, I'm just real big on like, whoever I'm dealing with on a level like that. If you're calling me directly and we're having conversations about things that are pertaining to clients, like, we already have a level of trust there and a level of respect because most people will send out. And I was a publicist years ago. I am no longer the publicist for everyone that is still mentioning me articles. I appreciate it.

[DJ Envy]

I know you the founder, CEO of Cream Labs, but what's your title?

[Patience Foster]

I'm also also the co. Founder and fifth and Freedom with my partner Bun. But I'm also. I'm the brand for Cardi. I'm her brand manager and her creative director. Yes. So at the end of the day, stop calling me. I work across her entire business at the end of the day because again, like the longest standing member of her, you know, of her group, of her, of her team. So I'm. I'm involved in every single conversation at the end of the day because we built that currency of trust there. But no, I, I was a publicist and that was, was, you know, what got me into the spaces that I needed to be in. But as I understood what I'm truly capable of just outside of helping to control narratives and stories.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you got old pictures of Lauren to make sure she don't putting that now.

[Patience Foster]

Me and Lauren used to share Airbnbs in LA and go out to like BET Awards. We weren't, we didn't have a name at the time, so we weren't on the list. So we were just finessing, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where the bodies are for Lauren.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

She know what the body is.

[Patience Foster]

We've been, we've been friends for well over, well over a decade. We grew up together. So. But how I deal to your. To answer your question, I think it's just already a level of respect there. So she's not gonna, she's gonna tell me what it is. This is the information I have. What do you want to do with that information? Right. And it's two things for me. Are we on the record or are we off the record?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Number one, one, you're always on the record with Lauren.

[DJ Envy]

No, you shouldn't be.

[Patience Foster]

No, that's against like journalist guidelines.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I really do. So it's a lot of times when I call her too and be like completely before she even starts. Completely off.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Patience Foster]

So it's like I'm going to approach. I don't. I think I do a very good job. Like I don't blur the lines between what I do as a professional and who I am as a person because they're pretty much aligned. Like who I am as a professional is how I show up as a person.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Patience Foster]

So how I deal with her is just in any friendship, let's be transparent. Let's be honest with each other. This is what I have to say. This is what I'm not going to say. Hypothetically, I'm going to say this and, you know, we just work through it together. And I don't ever think for a moment I'm never going to have A conversation with somebody that I got a second guess. Is this information going to leave this phone call? So it's like, I think because of our friendship and the trust and the history that we have there, we can do good business.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're still kicking it with Patience Foster Charlamagne.

[DJ Envy]

How do you decide what's best for your client and what's best for your girl? And what I mean by that is, like, you know, you see, like, somebody like Lauren in the position she's in. She's growing, like, you know, she's building her name. You might have some information that you could be. I could get as the People magazine, but if I give it to Lauren, it's really going to help. Brown girl grinding. So what do you do in those situations?

[Patience Foster]

I think it depends on the situation for wherever there's controversy, drama, no pun intended. Right, Right. That's not ever. That's never been a part of my process or my systems. Like, I'm never feeding. I know there's people that think, like, oh, this is a PR stunt. Like, never feeding or setting up a stunt. Right. But in terms of, like, exclusives, like, oh, we have this, like, great information or something we want to share about the album. Like, of course, like, I would want, you know, my friend to have the exclusive. But when it comes to the client, it's just like, if you. If you love me and you say you're my friend, then you respect the fact that I have to do what's best for my client. And that's just, you know, and if that level of understanding is just not there, then we're truly. We're not friends, and we can't do business.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I will say there's been plenty of time. And also, too, I think it's like a trade thing, because, like, for me, it's like, okay, maybe if I know this and. Or you just giving me this, but then your client or whoever is like, we want to go another place with it. I'm like, I talk to her all the time. She'll call me about something else. There's been many times where I couldn't do something, but on the back end, it's like, ooh, I might get another story that's bigger. Or you might come to me and say, hey, hey. This is announcing. Like, so they're. It's a transactional thing as well for me. But I want to talk about when, like, so Cardi says, patience be like, what the. There's a lot of moments because y' all don't stage these Things, but people always think things are staged. So like the Harper's Bazaar party moment, the.

[DJ Envy]

What was that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Nicki Minaj, Cardi B. The fight at the Harper's Bazaar party.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First of all, she didn't even hear the. She wasn't there when Cardi made the record. Because you heard it when, when Cardi played it for you. You were surprised when she, when she.

[Patience Foster]

Said, yeah, I wasn't there for. When she, when she record record in real life, I was just like taken back because I was like, why did.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It have to be me?

[Patience Foster]

But I mean, I guess it only makes sense because a lot of people probably think that there's this, this yes man complex in our relationship and it's the complete opposite. Like, I'm gonna always have her back, right, wrong or indifferent. Like there's never gonna be a time that I would stand down from that. But, but at the same time where we don't agree, we don't agree respectfully, right? And we handle that like adults. And I think we do a really good job of like, we know that our loyalty as like friends and basically sisters is, you know, the core of our relationship. But it really doesn't blur the lines when it comes to like being direct about, you know, business decisions or just, you know, life decisions. We don't always see eye to eye. So there are plenty of times, times that she does and I don't know why the Internet thinks that I like have these strings and control what she says or what she can do. Like, I think her fans kind of have this idea, like, take her phone, make her get off the Internet like it's a grown ass woman, like she's the one, do and say as she pleases. And yes, from time to time she asks for suggestions or advisement, but there are some times where she jumps out the window and she do and say whatever she want to do. And I am looking like, what the.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, so, like the talent that's coming into fifth and freedom. I think that what I was going to ask was there's a lot of those moments and they're big because of who she is and because of her personality. How do you in real time strategize and, and, and figure it out where it doesn't hit her brand or her business too hard and it works out in your. In her favor, or at least her narrative is in her favor?

[Patience Foster]

I will almost say it's in the re. It's kind of like in the reverse. Like, I'm not thinking when something happens like damage control, which oh my God. Like the association of publicists. Please don't kill me. I'm not thinking like, oh my God. I need to get and crisis control. Because I think what you build from the beginning and the tone you set with your client in terms of authenticity is what carries you through those moments. Because when those moments happen, I don't have to jump into damage control mode because we've been who we are from the beginning. She's been authentic in who she is from the beginning. She's been unapologetic and unfiltered from the beginning. The beginning. So it really sometimes in a lot of these moments just doubles down on who she's always shown up is. So I think it's really in the opposite for me. Like, I'm not in that moment. Of course, if it's absolutely crazy, let's talk through it, let's figure it out. But it's not a lot of, like, spinning of the narrative and coming up with things that may not necessarily be true to help save face. Like, and I love that she's just a woman that she just stands on her like, like, damn, I did say that and I up. But, you know.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

So do you feel, with your PR background, right. Do you feel that all publicity is good publicity?

[Patience Foster]

I don't know. I, I understand it, I understand what it means, but I still, I do still feel like things can be harmful. Like, unless all you care about is the attention. That's the advantage of, you know, everything is publicity. But if you truly care about a brand that's going to build value and be valuable X amount years from now, then you should care about, you do have to care about what could possibly be harmful. And I think a lot of times for her, she gets this backlash of, you don't have to explain everything. You don't need to say everything. And I think there are some times that I'm kind of like, I feel like we could have not said something. But I also feel like, I love that she feels the need to set the record straight. So that way when a conversation does come up with a potential brand partner, partner, or you know, a potential partner just in business or, you know, what have you. It's like I made sure to clear my name and set the record straight. And if what I'm saying is not true, you prove to me that it's not true. And I feel like she calls a lot of people's bluff and, and she makes sure to, to stand on exactly what she thinks and how she feels. And sometimes that comes out in Instagram comments or tweets or what have you. But, you know, I. I don't think that all publicity is good publicity. Yeah, I think that all publicity is attention, but all attention is not good attention. So.

[DJ Envy]

And sometimes the algorithm don't know the difference whether somebody's saying good or bad things about you. It's like, damn, she got mentioned a million times in the house, right?

[Patience Foster]

But it's like, what is she getting mentioning for, you know, at the end of the day? Especially if it's something that defames your character. It's one thing if it's like, if it's about something frivolous like wardrobe or. Or a rumor, like a surface, you know, gossip topic, but something that defames your character and just your moral compass, like, those still have real repercussions. A lot of people think that no one has any sort of principle anymore when it comes to these businesses. Everybody just wants a name. They just want a celebrity. You know, they. They'll pay for it. No, like, there's still moral clauses and contracts. There are still, still people that have principles, and they want to know how you show up as a person. So if you are defaming who I am in my character, which could possibly stand in the way or intervene or interfere with what I'm building, then I'm set the record straight.

[DJ Envy]

Can you go a little deeper on that? Like, how do these salacious headlines hurt our help deals with corporate brands?

[Patience Foster]

I mean, they, they do hurt, right? Especially if it's a lot of brands. The brand partnerships go deeper than just the money. Like, what's the upfront guarantee? Like, how are we structuring this partnership? Like, they're still compliance. At the end of the day, they want to. A lot of brands still want to know this is a decent person. They show up as a decent person. And when they go out into the space or in the marketplace to represent my brand or my company, they can be trusted, right? Because they've obviously spent millions of dollars in resources and manpower to build whatever it is that they're building, and they don't want to compromise that.

[DJ Envy]

That.

[Patience Foster]

So a salacious headline, if you think about press, right. There's never a time where a headline will go up about a particular person or topic, and they don't, in that article, recount every other thing that is attached to that person. So. And also right before this happened, such and such was supposed to sign a deal or assigning a deal with this company. So now you're, you know, if, If I'M a publicist for this brand and I'm getting these Google Assistants alerts. This person who I'm supposed to be doing business with is now showing up in my alerts in correlation to the name of my brand or my company in a terrible way. So to your point even earlier, is all press, good press. That's not good press for them, especially depending on whatever that brand is built upon. If they're geared towards mothers or they're geared towards a certain type of audience and that headline is either prejudice or hurtful against that audience, that's not good press.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Patience Foster]

You understand what I'm saying? So, I mean, salacious headlines do, you know, come with a certain level of damage when you're building outside of just your self brand and most talent, if they're smart, they're building a brand of their own so that they can collaborate and partner with other companies and other brands, man.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you for coming, Patience. We ain't gonna never beat the. We on Cardi B payroll, Alex. Like, damn. They interviewing Patience, brand manager. We ain't never beat. No doubt.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Congrats on 5th and Freedom. Those artists are going to be lucky and talent gonna be lucky to be.

[Chris Brickley]

Thank you.

[Jess Hilarious]

Congratulations to you and Bun.

[Patience Foster]

Yes, thank you.

[DJ Envy]

How do they reach out? Do you even want them to?

[Patience Foster]

Yeah, they can definitely reach us. We have fifth and Freedom on Instagram. You can reach out. I'm very. We're very active on our Instagram and obviously, you know, you can see the services and things that we provide.

[DJ Envy]

Are you looking for something in particular right now?

[Patience Foster]

I don't think we're ever looking for something in particular. It really is just a field thing. Like, we have a really, really dope emerging artist that's coming out of Delaware, Billy Bird, who we've been working with for a few years. But now we're even. We're in a better position and have a lot more. There's a lot more opportunity and like, building her out because breaking artists out of very small markets is very difficult. But she's so talented. She's so raw, like, so I don't think we're really looking for anything, but we're also not looking so not nothing. Do with. Do with that information what you will.

[DJ Envy]

All right. It's Patience Foster. It's the breakfast.

[Patience Foster]

Thank you so much.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, you are a donkey. What the hell?

[Chris Brickley]

What the hell do you need, you donkey?

[DJ Envy]

Some donkey. Today's just saw themselves. Oh, man.

[Chris Brickley]

Charlemagne, who you giving? Don't get a good tonight.

[DJ Envy]

Well, donkey of the day goes to 21 year old Angel Gomez Montanez. Now that's the name that'll alert ICE. Now listen, this man was born in 2004, okay? I got a rule. I don't argue with people who were born the same year Kanye west, college dropout was released, okay? I'm not going back and forth with anybody. Somebody who was born the same year T.I. dropped his third album, merging Urban legend. Okay? How do I look debating somebody who just entered the world the year Lil Wayne dropped the car to one. There is nothing to be gained by that conversation, okay? There is also a theory that youngins that age don't want to work, okay? That youngins that age have a sense of entitlement. That youngins that age want things handed to them. Well, angel didn't disprove any of that, okay? In fact, angel might be exhibited on why a lot of that is probably true. Let's go to ABC13 Eyewitness News for the report, please. Breaking overnight, the man investigators say murdered his roommate rather than pay rent is under arrest. Harris County Sheriff's office says that Angel Gomez Montanez was safely taken into custody. No other details published about this. Montanez is charged with the murder of Christopher Rodriguez, Lara, Lara's mother, telling ABC13 that Montanez has had been living with the family for free for about three months when she started to ask him to start contributing. She says Montana's shot and killed her son Thursday outside the apartment on Butte Creek Road in north Harris County. Rest in peace. To 18 year old Christopher Lara. You did not deserve that. This young man, Angel Montanez was offered a place on, on, on the, on this apartment's couch for three months. Three months you didn't have to contribute to. No bills, okay? No rent, no nothing. Just freeloading your monkey ass off. And then when you were told this can't be happening, we have bills to pay, you decided to shoot and kill 18 year old Christopher. Laura, this is why you have to avoid unhappy, unlucky, miserable souls, okay? This young 18 year old living his best life, okay? With his family. An angel who has family ties, guys just with, with them decided to smoke him for no other reason than his feelings were hurt, okay? He also tried to shoot the victim's brother. That's what a nine year old witness reportedly heard the suspect say. I'm going to kill all of them. Here's the thing. If you can come up with a plan to commit a murder, then you can come up with a plan to get a job, okay? 21 year old. 21. 21 years old. Living rent free for three months. Do you know what kind of blessing that is? Everybody out there listening to me right now. Just imagine the kind of cushion you could have for yourself if you didn't have to pay any bills. Not one for three months. Let me tell you, freeloaders out there, if somebody is blessing you with the opportunity to not have to pay any bills for any amount of time, please find a way to make that person's life easier. Young man, your name is Angel Gomez Montanez. I know you had the urge to do some lawn work, okay? It's in you, all right? I know you wanted to cut some grass, trim some hedges, find a cabinet to fix, okay? There's gotta be a pipe clogged up somewhere. There was something you could have been doing in that apartment to make things easier for the people you was freeloading off. This is why we can't get rid of Job Corps. No, no, no. Okay? The streets need it. Young men like this don't have nothing else to do. Can't find a job. Job. Job Corps would be perfect for him. Let him go to Job Corps, learn a trade, get his ged, a diploma, and go out there and, you know, have some money to pay his own bills. Now, look, kids nowadays. Don't Want to Work is a broad generalization, okay? I don't even believe it, okay? I know plenty of young, hustling ass kids, but these young kids will kill you. It's not a generalization, okay? These youngins is crazy, all right? I know the prefrontal cortex doesn't fully develop until the age of 24, 25, but my God. All right, angel, you would have never survived in those Scrubs era. He would have been in the passenger side of his best friend's ride, letting off shots. Who the f you calling a buster? All right? But guess what, Angel? All that was from. You know, all that was. All that was was a challenge from your family, okay? When somebody says, yo, you need to go get a job to help pay some bills, that means you need to get up, get out the of out and get something, okay? That's why they was encouraging you to do that. That's all they wanted. But now you don't have to worry about room and board anymore because you got a murder charge, okay? In Texas. You're going to jail for 99 years of life, and you will have to get a job, young man, okay? Food service, laundry, maintenance, furniture manufacturing. Oh, you gonna get a job in prison, and you're gonna give a job in prison. It's Just gonna have a blow in front of it. Please let Remy Ma give Angel Mont Montana as the biggest Hee haw.

[Patience Foster]

Hee haw. Hee haw.

[Jess Hilarious]

You stupid?

[Patience Foster]

Are you dumb?

[Jess Hilarious]

Hey, Sound like a fake Mexican. This is Mantanas.

[DJ Envy]

Angel. Go. I'm probably pronouncing it wrong.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Definitely sound pronouncing it wrong.

[DJ Envy]

No, it ain't. Ain't no r in it. It's spelled M O, N T A N E, Z. Montinez.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Let me see.

[DJ Envy]

Let me.

[Chris Brickley]

Let me show him.

[Jess Hilarious]

He sound like he's impersonating, you know?

[DJ Envy]

You know, you can eyeball the Mexican.

[Jess Hilarious]

First of all, no, let me say exactly. I never heard of Montinez.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a different.

[DJ Envy]

Exactly. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today, sir. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Lola Rosas here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, indeed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Training to the NBA players and a host of other things he has going on. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Brickley. Welcome back, man.

[Chris Brickley]

Thanks for having me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you feeling?

[Chris Brickley]

I feel great. You know, I feel like. Feel like coming to this show three times. It means like you're doing something right. To me, this is the dopest show. Got the biggest platform. What you guys do is amazing. So to come three times, it's dope. I'm a little tired. Last night I went a little drive, went to my old apartments just to like, you know, kind of like celebrate where I'm at right now. And yeah, I'm just thankful in the moment, what's important.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why did you decide to do that? Why you wanted to go back? Most people go forward.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why'd you want to go back and.

[Chris Brickley]

See where you so you, you know, going on the Breakfast Club was cool for the third time. So I'm like, okay, I'm literally Gonna Drive to 106 in Columbus. Then I drove to. I lived in Cliffside park. And then so I drove to all these. Just. I do that just sometimes when I feel like I might be losing motivation just to get that back. And then also sometimes in celebration mode.

[Commercial Announcer]

This Labor Day, say goodbye to spills, stains and overpriced furniture. Furniture with washablesofas.com, featuring Anabe, the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly pricing. Sofas start at just $6.99, making it the perfect time to upgrade your space. Anibe's pet friendly stain resistant and interchangeable slipcovers are made with high performance fabric built for real life. You'll love the cloud like comfort of hypoallergenic high resilience foam that never needs fluffing and a durable steel frame that stands the test of time. With modular pieces you can rearrange anytime. It's a sofa that adapts to your life. Now through Labor Day, get up to 60% off site [e-mail] Every order comes with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not in love, send it back for a full refund. No return shipping, no restocking fees. Every penny back. Shop [e-mail] Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions. Restrictions may apply.

[OK Storytime Host]

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, wait a minute, Sam.

[OK Storytime Host]

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

[Caller]

Now hold up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Isn't that against school policy?

[OK Storytime Host]

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then it's even more likely that they're cheating.

[OK Storytime Host]

He insists there's nothing between them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, do you believe him?

[OK Storytime Host]

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So do we find out if this.

[OK Storytime Host]

Person'S boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the okay Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Patience Foster]

Hello, it's Danielle Fishel, Ryder Strong and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Will Friedle from Pod Meets World, and we're bringing you Viva Las contestants.

[Patience Foster]

That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the.

[Commercial Announcer]

City of sin and giving the people what they want.

[Patience Foster]

A full week of Y2K content.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me why.

[Patience Foster]

Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency, it's Sphere, of course.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We sat down with Kevin Richardson and.

[OK Storytime Host]

AJ McLean just minutes before they took the stage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And our very own Will Friedle basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please.

[Commercial Announcer]

Plus, the man who has the longest.

[Patience Foster]

Running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props It's Carrot Top, baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And finally, we all L O v e her.

[OK Storytime Host]

Ashlee Simpson Ross joins us to talk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

About her upcoming sold out Vegas residency.

[Patience Foster]

It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss.

[Chris Brickley]

Listen to PodMeet's World on the iHeartRadio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Chris Brickley]

A foot washed up, a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was.

[DJ Envy]

Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable.

[Patience Foster]

These are the coldest of cold cases.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But everything is about to change.

[Jess Hilarious]

Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime.

[Patience Foster]

A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA using new scientific tools. They're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen, I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[Patience Foster]

On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors. And you'll meet the team behind the scenes at othram, the Houston lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable.

[Commercial Announcer]

Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you.

[Patience Foster]

Get your podcasts type thing.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, for people that don't know who you are, you're an NBA trainer. You play basketball for Louisville.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what got you into training basketball? Why do people feel like you are the trainer that they should work with? Because you work. We've seen you work with people like, of course, Mellow. We've seen you work with LeBron, we've seen you work with Harden, West, Westbrook, just to name a few.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So why are you the person that people say, I gotta train with, Chris?

[Chris Brickley]

Man, that's a great question. I thank God every day. I think at the end of the day, I'm a good person. I study my craft and the players know I care. And also, I'd be dumb not to say luck comes with anything. Anyone really successful, Some type of luck needs to come along the way.

[Jess Hilarious]

How much of a player development is. Is mental versus physical?

[Chris Brickley]

That's a great question. There's so many players that if you watch the workout, they wouldn't miss a shot. And you'd be like, they should be in the NBA. They play in Europe. It's because when the game comes, they just become like a mental midget. Like, they miss a shot, then they just Pack it in. So, yeah, the mental aspect is huge. So, like, my job is a. I'm a trainer teaching players how to play, but then also teaching players, like, don't get too down. Hold yourself accountable. A lot of mental stuff.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, mental is a big part of it.

[Chris Brickley]

Huge. Huge.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So outside of mental, what else do you look at when. With a player, when you're like, okay, this player's gonna be a star.

[Chris Brickley]

So there's two ways I go about it. So sometimes I'll work with a player and he's already all star. So in those aspects, they still want to get better, but they'll be like, study my game. Try and figure out what I need to get better at. I'll tell them what I think and then we'll attack it. Then you have situations like Donovan Mitchell. So I started working with Donovan Mitchell. He had like 700 followers on Instagram. He was like in 11th grade. Now he's an NBA superstar. So to like to do that and see that, it's super dope. I did that with Kai and Anthony Cole. Anthony and Recently Sierra Future Junior. He's 11 years old. Russell Wilson hits me up and he's like, yo, I want you to do what you did to Kyan Cole, Donovan to my son. So he's been in this gym.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But let me ask you, what. When you like a player like LeBron, right? Who's probably one of the best players ever. One of, right? What do you train him to make him better? Like, what can make him better? Like, what makes you like, he's the goat?

[Chris Brickley]

So, yeah, you're right. It's like, so a he can get better at things. Like, even great players always have some flaws in their game. Once we started working, LeBron was like, all right, I want you to watch film tonight, come over to the workout tomorrow and tell me two things that I need to get better at. So this is like nerve wracking going to LeBron.

[DJ Envy]

He put you on the test.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah, he did. And so I gave him two things. He liked them and yeah. So there's always weaknesses. There's always weaknesses, even in the greats.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now you call LeBron the goat. People will be like, lebron's not the goat. Jordan is the goat. So why do you have lebron as your goat, man?

[Chris Brickley]

He scored the most points in NBA history. That's just a fact.

[DJ Envy]

Fact.

[Chris Brickley]

He holds so many records. I mean, I feel like doing it in this era with the social media and all that, all the hate. It's just a lot what he's Gone through. He's won championships or three teams. His. His brand is Giant. So is Jordan's. But Now I'm Team LeBron all day.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How do you feel when people becoming.

[Chris Brickley]

For Bronnie, it's messed up because at the end of the day, he didn't choose to be LeBron's son. Like, he. He's a great, great. He's literally like a great kid. And you could tell, you know, it's like a little. It's a sore spot for the family. I wouldn't want someone messing with my kid. None. None of you guys would. But Bronnie's actually really good. I think that. I think he's just gonna peak, like, in a year or two.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you think he should be in the league? Because that's your training.

[Chris Brickley]

For sure. For sure. Because people don't understand. Before his freshman year, he had that hard stuff, right? Like, I think he had, like a seizure or he passed out. He's something major. Yep. Couldn't. So he could play, like, half the season. So, yeah, he's an NBA player.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Patience Foster]

What.

[Jess Hilarious]

What made you pivot to being a trainer? Right. Rather than, for sure, pursuing a career, Being a player.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah. So obviously I wanted to be NBA player, but I wasn't good enough. So I couldn't. I couldn't. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All these players, but couldn't change yourself, Chris?

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah, no, Nah, nah. Some of the best people. So I made the most. So I grew up in New Hampshire, you know, I still hold the record, many records there. Played at Louisville. I had two NBA guys in front of me. And yeah, I could have gone overseas, but I was like, I played for Rick Patino. And then. So my two mentors are Rick Pitino and Phil Jackson, who's actually on the shirt. Two of the greatest coaches to ever do it. And so I'm like, okay, if I have the opportunity to know these guys, guys, let's attack this coaching thing. So I did the coaching thing. I'm like, nah, it's not for me. So then I started the training thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who was the first player that believed in you as a trader? Said, you know, J.R. smith.

[Chris Brickley]

Shout out to JR. That's one of my. Some of my close friends. My first year when I was with the Knicks, I was making $300 a week. He let me stay in his. In his couch. So I. I stayed on JR's couch for the whole year. Shout out to JR for that. He had to do that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah. JR's the good guy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Did you see recently Dawn Staley was Talking about she interviewed to be the coach of the Knicks.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah. What do you think about that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, I think it's fire.

[Chris Brickley]

That would have been so fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That would have been so fire.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know if I feel like they would have known how to protect her in the way she might have needed. Right. Everything that would have came her way. And I would have hated to have seen that. But I don't know much about sports. I just know it's like being a black woman.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah. Nah, for sure. I'm. I wanted to get the job. I think soon enough there'll be a coach in the NBA that's a girl coach. They already had girl refs. It's kind of funny when the players yelling at them. But. Yeah, no, I think it's coming soon for sure.

[Jess Hilarious]

What's the most slept on player in.

[Chris Brickley]

NBA right now to you Slept on right now in the league. So like there's levels, I guess. But I would say Ty Jerome. Ty Jerome? Yeah. He's like another kid. I guess I'm being biased. I've worked with him since like 8th grade and just to see that there's no better feeling working with kid and watching him like achieve his dreams.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, absolutely.

[Jess Hilarious]

Have you ever trained somebody that you knew they were just gonna be trash even after you.

[Chris Brickley]

Even after I'm dead. Maybe if I do like favorite workouts, like, but like for like someone's some celebrity's son. Yo, Clue. Clue is overly confident. He's like delusionally confident. But so he has. But to be a grin. That is so funny. So to be. Be a good shooter, you need to be delusionally confident. But he's. He's just not a great shooter yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who plays basket? Who takes basketball seriously?

[Chris Brickley]

I do these rapper runs and it'll be like Drake, Quavo, Bieber and who's there? He's there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no. Clue plays well. For real. Like he comes really like. Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, I know his outfits be matching all the time.

[Chris Brickley]

What do you think about his jump.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shot or he throws like from the side. It goes in though. So you can.

[Chris Brickley]

And he's probably gonna get mad at me for what I've said.

[Nina Parker]

Me too.

[Chris Brickley]

He's a good guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're still kicking it with Chris Brinkley. I want to ask, you know when you train these players and you look at somebody like LeBron or you look at somebody like Chris Paul that, that are, you know, 40 year old but they still play good ball.

[Chris Brickley]

Sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why do you think they're able to Play so good at this age where a lot of players at the age of 32 got to tap out. Is it the training? Is it their body in shape, or is it their iq?

[Chris Brickley]

When it comes to basketball, it's the way they're approached. Like, so LeBron will do a 8:00am workout. He shows up at 6:00am every single time. Say, we've worked out 20 times, 10:00am workout. He shows up at 8:00am like, he's just, like, prepared. And I think these guys, I think the ones that make it so it's like 10 years. Super hard to make it past 10 years to do that. You got to sacrifice sometimes your family time. You got to sacrifice a lot. Yeah, it's tough.

[Jess Hilarious]

So you got this new shoe.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

Coming out. You ain't coming here with no sneakers.

[Chris Brickley]

You guys. No, you guys got. So Ben's also. That's dope, by the way. Yeah. Mercedes. So she. You know that when I was at FDU, I was the youngest Division 1 assistant. She was a coach. You know, she coached.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how I met her. She was coaching, and she was coaching against my son.

[Chris Brickley]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's how we actually met. And then she started coaching my son.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And she coached a bunch of players. Actually, two. Made him to the league.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So she gave me all you guys sizes. So you guys are gonna have next week. So I have your size? Yeah, your size.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

Nice. Thanks, Chris.

[Chris Brickley]

Those are fire. So I want them to be basketball shoes that you could wear off the court. And I feel like, you know, you. It's in. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You get one.

[Chris Brickley]

Wear them.

[Jess Hilarious]

Did you design them yourself?

[Chris Brickley]

Design them everything. So the leather. It's leather and suede, which is kind of rare for a basketball shoe. Shout out to Rihanna. She did, like, a leather and suede Puma shoe. And I was like, ah, that's dope. You guys know what brown street signs mean in New York City?

[Jess Hilarious]

No.

[Chris Brickley]

So, you know, most of them are green, so a brown one means, like, an historical landmark. So I did brown. So the whole thing's like, oh, to New York City. 1948 is when Puma started, like, legacy and then street signs. But I did the street signs, like, names in my gym, certain things that mean something to me. So, yeah, I hope. I hope they do. Well, I got the 106 in Columbus Deli menu. You know, in the soul, it's like little dope things. Like, my photographer did. Took this from my. From my crib. This is like, my view. Shout out to next subject. So you Know, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And how did you get to. How did you link up with Puma?

[Chris Brickley]

So, man, when we first started, so no trainers ever signed a sneaker deal. Like a real sneaker deal, like an NBA player sneaker deal.

[Jess Hilarious]

I've never heard of a trainer even getting a sneaker at all.

[Chris Brickley]

It's crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're like a trainer influencer.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah, I hate that influencer word, but no, I guess you could say that for sure. But so we. I seen someone wearing Rudy Gay was wearing Pumas. I said, my manager, I'm like, we need to get this done. We end up getting it done. So then two years into it, I asked them for a sneaker. They're like, no. I remember being on the flight to Alex, like, yo, I got to work harder. Like, next year. Got a sneaker first sneaker, sold out, first day. I'm like, damn, I didn't even think people. Second sneaker, sold out, first day. Foot Locker, Dick, Sporting goods all over the world. Now this is the third one, and, you know, I'm hoping it just does good, man.

[Jess Hilarious]

It's dope. I heard you say earlier that you like to go back to some of the places that you live when you feel like you're not motivated or you want to celebrate. What about what you do gets you in a rut where you're not motivated?

[Chris Brickley]

Sometimes, man, just, I feel like I'm giving all my energy, right? I feel like. So say I have seven workouts today. Every seven player that comes in, all seven players, they want the full Chris Brickley. So I feel like 7pm Comes and like, my brain is done. And sometimes that affects my personal life. Like, I'm not giving my girlfriend the energy she needs or I'm not giving my family. I have. Yeah, I have a big family. Or maybe I'm. It just. And I know you guys know how that. That. How that works, but so just any job and then sometimes the players. One superstar player might not like it if I'm working another superstar player out. So keeping the politics and all that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you surprised by your fame? Sometimes. Because I know you came to the car show last week, and you was like, people were taking pictures with you like crazy. Like, it was, like, almost surprising to you.

[Chris Brickley]

My boy next. So he's seen it all. He was. When no one knew me, he was there. So shout out to Next. He was with me at the. At the car show. So, you know, I'm looking at the BMWs. First off, your car show's fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you so much.

[Chris Brickley]

Like, I'm gonna go back. And I was just trying to, you know, take pictures. And then, you know, one dude's like, yo, could we do an interview? We had some podcasting. And then another dude's like, could we take a picture? There was just like six people right away. And I was just like, it's amazing, right, to have that. But just sometimes, like, where I live, it's an issue. I have to promote where my gym is and where I live. So as people waiting outside that want to propose stuff, and it's just like, I want some privacy. Yeah, yeah, I want some privacy.

[Jess Hilarious]

Because it started feeling like your car show and not his. I would direct him right over. Y' all see that DJ over there?

[Chris Brickley]

But it was dope, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, thank you. I want to ask, you know, when it. When it comes to these trainers and they seek you out, do these people pay you? So, like, does LeBron cut you a check for training or does these people. You be like, nah, I train LeBron for free.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah, yeah, no. So they'll all pay. Everyone I train pays, but I let it. I, like, leave it up to them, especially, like, the. The superstar players. I know I'm getting something out of it, so I'm like, whatever you think that you deserve, pay me. Now the young guys, I feel like some guys come to me because they just want an Instagram post. I have, like, a big platform and I'm like, nah, I'm not. If you want to work out a week or two weeks, we can do it, but I'm not doing the one workout. One Instagram post. We're not doing that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the most you got paid and only got to say who it's from? Just the most you got paid to train with? Chris Bricklin.

[Chris Brickley]

Well, I guess I'll give you two answers. Gary Vee did it, like, did some, like, charity things. Someone spent. Was it $15,000 to train on me. But as far as, like, how much I charge someone. So usually it would be like, I won't be in a good mood. I'm tired. Someone asked me to train and I just give some crazy number, thinking they say no because you don't feel like it for sure. Oh, we got that for sure. So I got 20, 2500, like a 30 minute workout. That was the most for sure. Yeah. Which is fine. Which is cool. I mean. Yeah, it's not like.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, now you did say you're, you know, sometimes your. Your girlfriend and your kid doesn't get to see you like that. Who are you outside of Your brand.

[Chris Brickley]

And what you do. Right.

[Jess Hilarious]

Because you definitely matter as a person.

[Chris Brickley]

For sure. I'm not. I'm like super introvert. So I watched the first two, my two interviews here and I'm like cringe. I'm like, damn. Because that's not me. I get mad at Chai. It's funny. Like, I'm like. But when I'm speaking to LeBron or I'm speaking to KD or these like, or Bieber or Drake in a workout, I'm like, I'm super confident.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's your passion.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah. But then I get become introvert. But now I'm just a super loving person. Care about my people. That's my whole life. Like when I told my dad he could retire, that was like, like I made it like in my life and my. That's how I feel. So. Yeah. So I think I'm a good person to take pride. That I've learned though, as you. Life is living. People take advantage of that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How's Drake as a basketball player?

[Chris Brickley]

He's gotten a lot better. He's gotten a lot better for sure. Last time he came, he had like 13 threes. So he still has on his page. It's funny. These rappers come and like, to me, like doing a show in front of 80,000 people is cool. They think a video, a workout video in my gym is cool. And I'm like, yo, out of all the things, like, yes, that's. It's funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're still kicking it with Chris Br. Who's the best celebrity baller, man.

[Chris Brickley]

So I would say I got a girl in it, guys. So I, I worked with, get her the singer for like six months.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets busy.

[Chris Brickley]

She's nice.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Because she wanted to do.

[Chris Brickley]

Yes. You know, she wanted to try and make the wnba. So basically the singer. Yeah. If you guys Google it for her success or no, this is two. Two years ago for like almost a year straight. If you Google it, there's pictures of it. So we, we train the go. The goal was she's like, I'm gonna make a WNBA roster. And then she had a label switch, some personal stuff. And she's like, I just gotta get this album. And she's been in that mode. But we were training every day. She had it. She was making 15 threes in a row.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Chris Brickley]

Her NBA.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They said, yes, I seen him. When I seen him one time. She never says he played basketball. Now I'm going see if I can post up.

[Jess Hilarious]

And then who's the guy?

[Chris Brickley]

The guy best jcole yeah, because I mean, he. He came to me and he's like, yo, I know I'm 10 years too late, but I'm willing to give you three months. Can you get me to become a pro basketball player? And he played in NBA Africa. And then he played in the can. So that was dope. He would put his kids to sleep getting his bucket bike, Jake, you know, the whole bike. He would ride his bike to my crib. We work over two hours. Reconstructed his jump shot. Yeah, he freaking made NBA Africa.

[Jess Hilarious]

Have you ever played Chris Brown?

[Chris Brickley]

So you know Chris Brown, that was my best friend in the world for like four years.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, my God, mine too.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah, that's my man. So to a point where my best friend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sorry, go ahead, please, Chris, go ahead.

[Chris Brickley]

So to a point. When I was working with the Knicks, every day off we had, I would fly out to LA and we'd chill, we'd kick it. He'd fly in for my birthday. That was my man. That's like. I think so. The whole music stuff. I started meeting all these artists through Chris. So I'd come to New York with Chris. He was like, he's already. He's prime Chris. But he was like super prime Chris. And you know, I got Casanova on tour with them. I got so many artists songs through being cool. That's definitely a cool thing. But CB is nice if he like, wanted to be from like an 18 year old. I got a story for you. So I coached a ludicrous Chris weekend. Nine NBA players, one artist, Chris Brown. He scored 30 points.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Chris Brickley]

This is like six years ago. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Really?

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How's Dirk? People say Dirk.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah, Dirk's good too. Dirk and shoot. Shout Dirk. You know, everything that's going on, I hope. Yeah, I hope he gets out soon. I spoke to him last night.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Last night?

[Chris Brickley]

Yep, yep.

[DJ Envy]

Really?

[Chris Brickley]

He's in good spirits. It was actually like really, really good spirits. And he's like, yo, but bro, he's like, when I get out, I'm coming to the gym. We're training, I'm going league. And he said that. So, yeah, shout out Derek, man. It's one of my good friends.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Does he check in with you all the time?

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah, we're super close. We're super close. And I was super close with Vaughn, too. Me and. Me and my guy next. The night before that happened, I remember we're at the. I was at my house. I'm like sleeping. He's FaceTiming me. Vaughn, over, over. He's like, come on, pull up on me. Come pull up on on me. We pulled up on him, got pictures, and then the next day that happened. That was. That was messed up. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Chris Brickley]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

You live a life, huh?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I said you live a life very well for yourself.

[Chris Brickley]

You guys, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, the shoe comes out September 5, which is next Friday. Make sure you go pick them up. And where can people get them?

[Chris Brickley]

So Foot Locker, Dick Sporting Goods, puma.com. they're going to sell out quick. So they're going to be on grail.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hell yeah.

[Chris Brickley]

And yeah. All over the world. World.

[Jess Hilarious]

All Pro Nitro Twos.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris Brickley, ladies and gentlemen. Make sure you pick up the sneakers that come out this Friday. Charlemagne's already waiting online at Dick. So he's there already. It's Chris Brickley.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club now. Charlamagne, you got a positive note.

[DJ Envy]

I do. I just want to tell y', all, man, this is your Monday morning reminder that you can handle whatever the this week throws at you, okay? If you don't feel like that, then I want you to get a new perspective. Because whatever obstacle you're facing, it's not permanent. Have a great day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Breakfast Club finish or y' all done.

[Commercial Announcer]

This Labor Day, say goodbye to spill stains and overpriced furniture with washablesofas.com featuring Annabe, the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly pricing. Sofastart at just $6.99 making it the perfect time to upgrade your space. Anibe's pet Friendly stain resistant and interchangeable slipcovers are made with high performance fabric built for real life. You'll love the cloud like comfort of hypoallergenic high resilience foam that never needs fluffing and a durable steel frame that stands the test of time with modular pieces you can rearrange anytime. It's a sofa that adapts to your life now through ladies Labor Day. Get up to 60% off site [e-mail] Every order comes with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not in love, send it back for a full refund. No return shipping, no restocking fees, every penny back. Shop [e-mail] Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[OK Storytime Host]

Our partner Eli Lilly & Co. Just announced duets for type 2 diabetes, a campaign celebrating real patient stories of support. Support because managing type 2 diabetes doesn't have to be a solo act. Share your [e-mail] duets mounjaro tirzepatide is an injectable prescription medicine that is used along with diet and exercise to improve blood sugar glucose in adults with type 2 diabetes mellitus. Mounjaro is not for use in children. Don't take Mounjaro if you're allergic to it or if you or someone in your family had medullary thyroid cancer or multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type type 2. Stop and call your doctor right away if you have an allergic reaction, a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain or vision changes. Serious side effects may include inflamed pancreas and gallbladder problems. Taking Mounjaro with a sulfonylnoria or insulin may cause low blood sugar. Tell your doctor if you're nursing pregnant, plan to be or taking birth control pills and before scheduled procedures with anesthesia. Side effects include nausea, diarrhea and vomiting, which can cause dehydration and may cause kidney problems. Once weekly, Mounjaro is available by prescription only in 2.5, 5, 7.5, 10, 12.5 and 15 milligrams per 0.5 milliliter injection. Call 1-800-LilyRx 800-545-5979 or visit mountjaro.lily.com for the Mounjaro indication and safety summary with warnings. Talk to your doctor for more information about Mountjaro. Mountjaro and its delivery device base are registered trademarks owned or licensed by eli Lilly & Company, its subsidiaries or affiliates.

[DJ Envy]

Talk about stepping up. It's time to level up your game. Introducing the allnew ESPN app. All of ESPN all in one place. Your home for the most live sports and the best championship moments. The electricity is palpable. Step up your game with no annual contract required. It's the ultimate fan experience. Level up. For More on the ESPN app or at stream.espn.com sign up now.

[Chris Brickley]

The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. In 2007, Amanda Knox was halfway around the world studying abroad in Italy. She had no idea that her dream would turn into a nightmare. Inspired by the actual events of her wrongful conviction and 15 year fight for freedom.

[Nina Parker]

Watch the Hulu original series the Twisted.

[Chris Brickley]

Tale of Amanda Knox, now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus for bundle subscribers. Terms apply.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is an I Heart podcast.