Young Thug says Glorilla is ugly AF. The Bag Fuel podcast joins Loren LoRosa to break it down!

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Episode: Young Thug says Glorilla is ugly AF. The Bag Fuel podcast joins Loren LoRosa to break it down!
Date: September 5, 2025
Host: Loren LaRosa
Guests: Heineken & Ess (Bag Fuel Podcast)
Theme: Dissecting Young Thug’s recent jail audio leaks, their impact, and the ongoing intersection of hip-hop, street credibility, and media rollouts.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the recent controversy sparked by leaked jail phone calls featuring Young Thug, including one in which he calls rapper Glorilla “ugly as f***.” Loren LaRosa and her guests from the Bag Fuel podcast (Heineken & Ess) dig into the implications of these leaks: who is behind them, why they're happening now, and how they affect both Young Thug’s public perception and personal relationships—especially with regards to the nuances of street culture, the "snitch" narrative in hip-hop, and celebrity relationships.

The conversation mixes media analysis with candid, behind-the-scenes insight about the music industry and street life, peppered with humor, spirited debates, and memorable moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introductions & Setting the Stage

• Loren welcomes the Bag Fuel crew as her first guests in the new studio, praising their consistency in the content space.
  • Ess introduces himself as a Southside Jamaica, Queens music industry veteran (over 30 years in the business).
  • Heineken, self-proclaimed relationship advisor and media personality, brings wit and directness.
  • Loren outlines today's focus: “...we do like a breakdown of entertainment topics. Today we’re just gonna stick on one topic, because I feel like between the three of us, we’ll be here for five hours...” (04:00)

2. The Leaked Jail Calls: Motives and Rollout

• Why are Young Thug’s calls being released now?
  • Heineken argues that it’s a deliberate rollout: “This is a nice rollout because Young Thug embarrassed the Atlanta court system… Now since he got off and he’s been free, we need to embarrass him. This is a rollout right now, currently.” (06:26)
  • Ess echoes, “Oh, he’s definitely under attack… they coming for his head pause right now. Cause anything that’s gonna make him look bad now, they just leaked the Glorilla thing.” (07:29)

3. Young Thug/Lil Durk Leaked Call: Targeted Media Strategy

• The group listens to a leaked exchange where Thug discusses falling out with Lil Durk over a song clearance (08:44-10:09).
• Heineken dissects the strategy:
  • “Let me show you how systematically they’re attacking him. Dirk—that means he can never go to the Midwest. Glorilla—that means he’s no good west of Atlanta… They’re putting him to a point that he’s only going to have to live in Utah.” (11:05)

4. Snitch Culture, Hip-Hop, and Respect

• The trio unpacks how “snitching” allegations land differently for Young Thug compared to Gunna or 6ix9ine:
  • Ess: “Snitching was invented by street niggas… You gotta be a street nigga. You gotta be a criminal to be a snitch, period… A civilian can’t snitch.” (13:39)
  • Loren: “I don’t feel like that even sticks as hard as people think that it does for certain people… there’s a different level of respect for [Thug].” (12:22)

5. Why Does Street Credibility Still Matter?

• Loren honestly questions why wealthy, successful rap artists even care about street approval.
  • Heineken: “No matter how far removed you get, the streets are undefeated. Women love being outside in the streets… The streets matter.” (15:48)
  • Ess underscores that even top-tier artists still “in the street,” naming success as no barrier to street involvement: “These [rappers] will tell you… My man just told me so and so got to work…” (17:00)

6. Call for Personal Responsibility vs. Industry Patterns

• Loren: “Why does this matter amongst artists who are so rich and don’t have to bust a gun…?” (15:05)
• Ess: “These niggas are dumb… they’re that fucking dumb.” (43:15)
• The group debates whether it’s a matter of choice, culture, or “dumbness” that keeps high-profile artists tied to street drama.

7. Young Thug/Glorilla Audio & Fallout

• They review the headline call in which Thug says Glorilla is “ugly as f***,” which she publicly clapped back on as hypocritical:
  • Loren: “Now, the crazy thing about that audio is Glorilla tweeted in response. Mind you, this the same [guy] blowing my phone up to ask what color my eyes is. Laugh my ass off.” (28:57)
  • Heineken reflects: “Now, he’s jammed up… Whether she’s with it or not, people in her life are going to be asking her questions.” (31:43)

8. Impact on Young Thug and Mariah the Scientist’s Relationship

• Detailed analysis of how such leaks pressure Thug’s public relationship:
  • Loren: “If Glorilla is tasked with showing any receipts and she’s able to, it looks crazy on Mariah the Scientist’s part… she’s a woman with a very demanding career… She really loves this man.” (35:05)
  • Heineken: “Guess what you did? You justified the rollout… If you feel like that there’s no open relationship and now Mariah has to recrystallize what the relationship is and figure it out. These tapes are working.” (35:33)

9. State/Media Conspiracy?

• The Bag Fuel hosts argue this is a broader coordinated effort to “break down” Young Thug:
  • Heineken: “How many millions did Georgia lose on letting that man go free?... We want him to have to deal with women that he can’t trust and is going to use him now and run him in the ground. We don’t want him to have any backbone.” (41:56)
  • Loren pushes back, focusing on personal accountability: “Why you on the phone with all this anyway?” (42:48)

10. Wider Reflections (Gender, Streets, Black Culture)

• The conversation gets philosophical, ruminating on gender dynamics, passion in Black culture, male expectations, and how nurturing (or lack thereof) shapes outlooks.
  • Loren: “There’s a nurturing part of me that would love to hope that one day the Dumbness turns off and the light turns on. Because if not, that could cost you your life.” (45:05)
  • Ess: “We just gotta find a way to do better and be smarter… We are so passionate about our stuff.” (45:48)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Systematic Rollout:

  • “This is a nice rollout because Young Thug embarrassed the Atlanta court system… Since he got off and he’s been free, we need to embarrass him. This is a rollout right now, currently.”
    —Heineken (06:26)

• On Snitching and Street Cred:

  • “Snitching was invented by street niggas… You gotta be a street nigga… to be a snitch, period. A civilian can’t snitch.”
    —Ess (13:39)

• On the Streets Being Undefeated:

  • “No matter how far removed you get, the streets are undefeated. Women love being outside in the streets… The streets matter.”
    —Heineken (15:48)

• Glorilla’s Response:

  • “Blowing my phone up to ask what color my eyes is. Laugh my ass off.”
    —Glorilla (via Loren, 28:57)

• On Male Involvement in the Streets:

  • “These [rappers] will tell you… They just want to be in tune with…the streets is undefeated. I want the girl from Southside, Rochdale… That’s the one that I want.”
    —Ess (17:00)

• On Black Men and Breakdown Tactics:

  • “We want to ruin his life with Mariah. We want him to look crazy… Oh, he’s a snitch just like everybody else, player. He’s no different. And we’re gonna run this train all the way down.”
    —Heineken (40:48)

• On Intelligence and Choices:

  • “These niggas are dumb… her problem is she’s only around genius men… you have an expectation of intelligence from a man.”
    —Ess (43:15)

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Important Timestamps

• [02:23]: Loren introduces the Bag Fuel crew and sets up the discussion
• [06:26]: Heineken presents the “rollout” theory behind the leaks
• [08:44–10:09]: They play and debate the Young Thug/Lil Durk call
• [11:05]: Analysis of geographic/industry isolation tactics via leaks
• [13:39]: Ess’s thoughts on “snitching” and the fading street code
• [15:48]: Debate: why the streets still matter for multi-millionaire rappers
• [17:00]: Ess shares personal anecdote about street involvement at all levels
• [28:57]: Loren reads Glorilla’s viral response to Thug’s diss
• [31:43]: The crew breaks down consequences for Thug’s girlfriend, Mariah the Scientist
• [35:05]: Loren on the optics and impact of “receipts” if Glorilla produces them
• [41:56]: Heineken details alleged state/media strategy to ruin Thug personally
• [42:48]: Loren calls out personal responsibility for speaking recklessly on jail phones
• [45:48]: Ess laments Black men being “the topic of discussion” for negative stories

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Summary Tone and Style

The episode is casual, candid, and authentically “street”—with a blend of tough love, media savvy, and real-world experience. Loren LaRosa’s honest, questioning approach creates room for spirited debate. The Bag Fuel hosts’ blend of humor, bluntness, and insider perspective gives the conversation grit and chemistry, while also poking holes in the illusions of hip-hop’s public image.

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Key Takeaways

• The jail call leaks (especially the Glorilla diss) are likely part of a calculated agenda to undermine Young Thug by damaging both his industry relationships and personal ones.
• Despite immense fame and wealth, street credibility remains a powerful—sometimes irrational—currency in hip-hop culture, affecting even the most successful.
• The discussion exposes how media, public opinion, and personal choices intersect to shape the highs and lows of celebrity life, particularly for Black men in hip-hop.
• While some blame institutional or coordinated attacks, the group also stresses personal responsibility and the pitfalls of poor judgment, especially when "the tapes are always rolling."
• The ongoing fallout for Young Thug and those close to him (like Mariah the Scientist and Glorilla) exemplifies the personal costs of public drama, intensified by modern media dynamics.

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This episode is a lively, insightful look beneath the headlines at both the mechanics of hip-hop controversy and the enduring complexities of reputation, masculinity, and love in the public eye.

Transcript

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[B]

You know, she don't lie about that, right? Lauren came in hot.

[A]

Hey, y', all, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. This is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, exclusives, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. Now, today, if you guys can't tell. I am not in here alone. For those of our, you know, our audio listeners, y', all, we got 5 million people plus listening. They're called our low riders.

[B]

Mm. The lowriders.

[A]

Yes. So say hi to the low riders. Low riders.

[B]

Low to the lowriders.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Six' four, bouncing period.

[A]

Um, so, yes, we have the people listening, but then we also have the people who are watching, also low riders as well. But the video audience and their attitude is a lot different than the audio audience, so I talk to them a little differently, you know. You know how that go. Guys, on today's episode with me here in the studio, first guest on the podcast.

[B]

I like that.

[A]

First guest on the podcast. In the new studio, I have the amazing voices and personalities of the. Of the Bag Fuel podcast. You guys have been all over the place, viral everywhere.

[B]

So have you. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

[A]

I might have had a couple of.

[B]

I'm TMZ and all this other stuff. CNN and all. Cnn. You gotta see Breakfast Club just the way you. I heart Breakfast Club. Television was a big viral moment. Come on. Stop. Come on, now.

[A]

I said I have moments where y' all are like. What I admire about you guys, especially. Cause, like, being in the content space, I don't think people understand that it's, like, really a job to be consistent. Y' all are very consistent.

[B]

Appreciate it. Thank you.

[A]

You don't feel like why you breathe like that?

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Because it is a job.

[B]

Because you understand. People just be thinking it's. We're on time, too. Yeah, we hate being late. We're not talking about you.

[A]

No, no, I'm not.

[B]

You was on time. Yeah, yeah, but. But we good. We just talking about that. Just in what goes on in the normal perspective of hip hop and meeting and stuff. Everybody's always late. Yeah, they love being late. They're special. We don't think that we want to be on time. We always strive to work the best. I. I haven't been doing this that long. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

How long you been doing it?

[B]

About four or five years now.

[A]

First of all, I think, separately, you guys should introduce yourself to the audience.

[B]

Okay. Who? I mean, you want to flip a quarter to go first? You go first. They call me Heineken. Yes, I'm Haitian. No, I'm not on OIC. Yes. Everything else you've heard about me is 90% true. And I'm single for the rest of my life. Oh, God.

[A]

We'll unpack that in a little bit.

[B]

Oh, yeah. We could talk.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He has Questions for me.

[A]

Everybody say, hi. Hanukkah.

[B]

Yeah. Hello, riders. We see you.

[A]

I feel like we at a meeting right now. That whole I'm single for the rest of my life felt like. You need a community.

[B]

No, I want no communities, but I give relationship advice to married men and men in relationships. Oh, yeah. Even though I'm single, I give the greatest therapy.

[A]

You do?

[B]

Yes. And it always works, because you know.

[A]

Who might need you, and we're gonna get into that, this episode. Who? Young Thug.

[B]

Oh, I got him.

[A]

Okay. We gonna get there.

[B]

He has to go back to jail to save his relationship.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, I know. He's different.

[A]

Very different. Cause what?

[B]

He's serious, though.

[A]

It's your turn now. You introduce yourself.

[B]

I'm Ess. So everyone sees. Sounds official. One half a bag. Fuel. I'm from Southside, Jamaica, Queens. I've been in the music business for about 30 years now.

[A]

Got you. Got you. Well, here on the show, we do. I mean, I don't know if you guys have ever listened or tuned in, but we do, like, a breakdown of, like, entertainment topics.

[B]

Oh, beautiful.

[A]

Today we're just gonna stick on one topic, because I feel like between the three of us, we'll be here for five hours talking. If we do three. So on my way over here, there, you know, there's been a lot of conversation around Young Thug and the jail audios and, you know, all of the things, Right? Yes. Now, first of all, just in general, I heard you guys talking as I was getting ready about how you feel about just the audios from the jail phone calls being linked.

[B]

Yeah. Yes. It's a nice rollout because Young Thug embarrassed the Atlanta court system. That was the biggest court case in the whole Georgia. So money was spent. You had lawyers that. That were doing only fans to supplement their income, which, you know. You know about that, right? You had lawyers getting with the defendants. Yes.

[A]

That they reportedly just had a baby.

[B]

Yes. So. And he embarrassed the system because, you know, Fonny needed that for her reelection. Probably. She has political aspirations, so. And hip hop is the biggest target because, you know, it brings headlines. There's no more mobsters. There's no more cartel leaders. So Young Thug's face card is enough to catapult you in the stratosphere. So now since he got off and he's been free, we need to embarrass him. This is a rollout right now, currently.

[A]

So you feel like Heineken. This is a targeted attack.

[B]

Yes. He embarrassed. He's under attack. Yes.

[A]

That's all you do to or.

[B]

Oh, he's definitely under attack. You heard us talking about it. I said I don't know who he pissed off, but he pissed off somebody. They coming for his head pause right now. Cause anything that's gonna make him look bad now. They just leaked the Glorilla thing.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yep, Things leaked that. He talking bad about Glorilla. Lauren, you're in the media. It keeps rolling out. You know what a ro rollout is? Come on. You had a famous rollout. Yo.

[A]

Me, what was my rollout?

[B]

Oh, my God, Laura, what was my rollout? Let's stay on top. Let's stay on top.

[A]

I didn't have no rollout.

[B]

We can talk about this stuff on back. Yeah, later.

[A]

Okay, guys, this is the latest we're going to be. No, listen, we can intertwine. Because what I want the audience to know is you guys are here because we will be doing a sit down for Backfield.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

For you guys show as well. So make sure you guys are listening here and y' all hear kind of the. The appetizer to the craziness. Go get the full entree because we will be doing that sit down. But I do have those jail calls and I want to start before we get to Young Thug with Glorilla. I wanna back up a bit because there was also one recently released with Lil Durk. Or him Young Thug talking or discussing Lil Durk. Let's take a listen to that one first. So that's the second one that I sent you, Laura.

[B]

It gotta be what's up with the boy. Yeah, you need to make that. You need to make that. I don't know, you know, I like. I did a lot of player for the boy too, though. When the boy career went with it, where pulled a band, man.

[A]

Pluto.

[B]

I really like locked in with him. Like, they're really with him. But he. I don't know, he acting a little different. I don't like that, man. What you mean? Like, I didn't hit him a few songs. He's just like, I know, I know for sure. Going right up on. Going right up. He just got down, taking it time, you know, four, five days later. Like that little type, like, man, you got going on. Yeah. Did too much for you, man. Watch out. Yeah, he did that. Yeah, I want to happen. Hell yeah. He sent us. He sent a song from the lab. Yeah, he sent a song for it then. God damn. When it's time to clear the song, he. Now he. He don't clear the song. So the song didn't make the album. Like, look, he cleared and didn't clear it. Didn't clear the song. What you mean ain't clear the song? Yeah, he did. He worked that one. Then you get on the Internet, keep talking about this and that, this and that. Man, cut that cap ass out, man. He rap be craz. You rap ahead, boy.

[A]

One thing I'm gonna say, if this is the target attack, right, the alleged target attack that you guys are saying.

[B]

Listen to, I have to cut.

[A]

You know, exactly. Somebody in there is so good with hip hop media and just media in general. They know exactly who to talk about and what to talk about. What caused the pool.

[B]

Let me show police.

[A]

Yes, but I. But, okay, so the police know everything. They know who everyone is. Of course, the timing of a lot of this is very like. I feel like I'm dealing with another news journalist at this point. It's like some of the things that they're releasing as they're releasing them, like the Kendrick and Drake right around the time Drake sits with Bobby. That's. I don't know. Y' all know cops that pay attention to that type of stuff.

[B]

You know how many cops made detective watching World Star videos?

[A]

But this, yeah, but understanding timing and relevance of like, news, conversation and trend, that's a whole different conversation. That's what I do as a person.

[B]

Hold on. Yo, I need you to cook first so we can start. First of all, let me show you how systematically they're attacking him. Dirk, that means he can never go to the Midwest. Glorilla, that means he's no good west of Atlanta. They're putting him to a point that he's only going to have to live in Utah. Think about it. Everybody they going against, he can't be in them towns. You're a snitch now. You can't go to the West Coast.

[A]

I mean, Utah now. Why Something going to drop with him and NBA Youngboy, and he's not going to be able to go there because NBA Young Boy be there too, of course.

[B]

Who the hell held on to the tape since 2015? Yeah, why they never dropped it. Why is nobody even talking about this? They dropped this shit from 2015 with him snitching. Who held onto the tape.

[A]

But that interrogation conversation with Thug, that wasn't new.

[B]

It wasn't?

[A]

No, that was not. There had been a conversation prior to this about what was said and what wasn't said. When I think his name is Pee Wee, Right? The guy that shot up the tour bus.

[B]

But there was no proof, though, was.

[A]

It I remember, and I don't know exactly how I remember, but I remember there being a conversation about who said what and when and there being a conversation about what was Thug's role in that. But it was never discussed the way it's being discussed right now.

[B]

That's the point. Then they say, yeah, but. And then they say Thug was snitching on somebody in the tape. Right?

[A]

Well, because in the tape he's. So what he said was, I wish I could have sent her the interrogation tape. But what he said, basically, he was. He was saying enough from Thug's opinion. He was saying just enough to clear his friend. To clear. Oh, boy. Right. Who end up coming out and saying, look, he good at my book because what he did, we're fine. So if y' all are running with the snitch allegations, whatever, whatever. But even removing it from like the snitch, not snitch, whatever. Because I don't feel like that even sticks as hard as people think that it does for certain people. I also feel like too, if you guys look at how the conversations are happening around Thug versus not when the conversation was around Gunna, people were loud about how they felt. We're not doing this with him. We're not doing that with him. You're not seeing that with Thug. So even if people do decide to distance theirself, in my opinion, there's a different level of respect for him. That I don't know. Even if artists choose to not do certain things, if it will impact him the same way people thought it would impact a gun or it did impact like a Tekashi 6ix9ine. Like, I just think that there's a different level of respect for him. It just. It feels that way anyway. How do you feel?

[B]

Let me tell you something.

[A]

I'm saying people are not loud about Lauren.

[B]

What you just said is the most dangerous thing. I think people are. Yes, people are talking about it, but.

[A]

Do you feel like they're discussing it differently than how Gunna's situation?

[B]

Yeah, because we got experience with this now. Because it's a lot of niggas that snitching now. Like, we're learning that snitching is just a way of life. If people ever watch Bag Feud, I said this two years ago. I said the street code. I said, there is no code. It's fake. There is nothing. Snitching was invented by street niggas. You gotta be a street nigga. You gotta be a criminal to be a snitch, period. Who was the first snitch. A civilian. That don't make no sense. A civilian can't snitch. So when you're paying attention to what's really going on out here, you really know what's going on. And Thug and what Thug is doing or what they're saying he's doing, what everybody's saying about Ratlana and all the rest of the stuff that's really going on. This is a problem. It's an ongoing problem of people thinking that, oh, somebody go and say something about somebody and lead them the wrong way, then that's cool. It's not cool because then you're ridiculing the same man for saying he did the same thing. Correct. Yeah, but now they're under. Now is saying, yo, I'm not gonna come out on high because yo, gunna had a number one hit. Yep. That's what they're saying. Damn. I. I put myself on one side, but they still pushing the rap. So. Gun. So what if Thug come out and Thug got a number one hit, too, and people want to forget about what Thug did? I don't want to say nothing anymore.

[A]

Can I ask an honest question? I am so removed from all of this. I am a civilian. I don't want nothing to do with.

[B]

None of this doing the right thing at all.

[A]

Whatever. Whatever. Right. Why does this matter? Amongst these artists who are so rich and don't have to bust a gun another day in their life if they chose not to, why does this matter?

[B]

I don't think you're going to like my answer.

[A]

I want to hear your answer. Because also too, when I'm hearing them rap about certain things now. Like them now, Thug, as big as he is as a Thug, is not just a rapper. Thug is like a rapper. No, he's an artist. Right. As famous as he is now. I don't. Even if he is doing it, my mind doesn't instantly go to, he's out here in the streets really doing blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right? He is a superstar. He is. Why does any of this even matter at all at this point? Like, why do we care how people look at him? Not look at him? He's still going to have a core audience.

[B]

Everybody still has an audience a long time ago. And I'm going to let Esso clean this up. He said, no matter how far removed you get, the streets are undefeated. Women love being outside in the streets. And when I mean the streets, going on vacations. Yeah. And then here's the thing. And we're gonna Unpack this topic. It's that simple. Yes. The streets are undefeated. Drake went to a white girl to cry about acceptance from hip hop. Why not go to black people? Cause the streets matter. Does it make sense? No.

[A]

So, but Drake is not no street.

[B]

Artist, but he cares about the streets. Does it make sense, Lauren?

[A]

No, it does, but I just don't feel like I don't think that, like, granted, like I just said, I'm civilian removed. Whatever, Whatever. But I'm not no dummy. I grew up around.

[B]

But you're outside.

[A]

Right, but this is my thing, though. I don't think there's no way that you could really be in the streets in a way that anybody would need to feel like they need an approval from you anyway and be this big celebrity.

[B]

Lauren. All right, pause. Two of them can't. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm not gonna name no names.

[A]

Somebody crashes and burns.

[B]

I'm not gonna name no names. But these niggas is in the street. Stop thinking.

[A]

Because they can't be that deep.

[B]

Lauren. Lauren LaRosa. Lauren LaRosa. I've been doing this for 30 years. These niggas is in the street. How These niggas will tell you. I'll be like, yo, bro, I just saw. My man just told me so and so and so got to work and so and so and so and so. Why are these niggas? Why are these niggas dealing with the street?

[A]

Hold on. Yes.

[B]

Why are they putting work on the streets? And all these people be like, yo, these just. Yo, they just. They just want to be in tune with. The streets is undefeated. Okay? They want a street bit. I don't want that superstar that really likes me. I don't. I don't want her. I don't want her. I don't want her. I want the girl on the ground. No, I want the girl from Southside, Rochdale. Remember Teeny that grew up and she got the bubble and all that? That's the one that I want.

[A]

I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tameka Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tameka never bought the car and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission. Save our girls. Join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford, and in session 421 of Therapy for Black Girls, I sit down with Dr. Afia and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health and the ways we heal. Because I think hair is a complex language system, right, in terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, your spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyper fixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel. It's how our hair is styled. We talk about the important role hairstylists play in our communities, the pressure to always look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela Neal Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to therapy for black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential.

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I was going to schools to try.

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To teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I.

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Get students who, like, it's easier to.

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Punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome.

[B]

As a result of it, if it's.

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Going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to just say like, like you go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer.

[B]

It's easy to ignore, to suppress seeing.

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A colleague who's bothering you and just.

[B]

Like walk the other way.

[A]

Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier.

[B]

Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort.

[A]

Listen to the psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Sunny and 75, almost a little chilly in the shade. Now let's get a read on the inside of your car, it is hot.

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You've only been parked a short time, and it's already 99 degrees in there.

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Let's not leave children in the backseat while running errands. It only takes a few minutes for their body temperatures to rise, and that could be fatal.

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Cars get hot fast and can be deadly.

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Never leave a child in a car.

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A message from NHTSA and the ad Council. Let me. Let me give you context.

[A]

Wait, hold on. Wait. Before we go to you, question for you. Is there a level of. Because the guys you talking about, there's not a level of success. Success that they hit where that's not possible. Because there are. I do know, artists that are still moving around, but there's no level.

[B]

I don't want to even say this. I can't even. We cannot say this on this show. After we cut off the camera. I'm gonna just show you. I'm gonna just show you how the toppest. Toppest niggas still is in the street. I'm gonna show you. Let me show you something. Right up this. Women get dragged for being ridiculous about a lot of shit. Women will leave their man for a horoscope. That's the same level of ridiculous.

[A]

Women.

[B]

I love women. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I love them. No, that's.

[A]

You got some issues.

[B]

No.

[A]

Are we becoming friends?

[B]

We're becoming best friends.

[A]

Okay, so I'm honest with my friends. I'm probably too honest.

[B]

Let me ask you something.

[A]

The minute that you introduce yourself to.

[B]

The riders, you want me to lie?

[A]

You said I'm single and I never. What did he say? I never.

[B]

I'm never gonna be a liar.

[A]

Not like you wanna be lonely and miserable for me.

[B]

No, no, I'm never lonely. Oh, I never said that. That's crazy. I'm still outside. I'm just not in a relationship.

[A]

Okay, well, we'll deal with your issues.

[B]

But what I'm saying is the same way with the horoscopes, because men don't care like that. It's the same thing with the street stuff. With men. It's that level of ridiculousness. We're like, why do you care? This don't make no sense. So I'm giving the same equivalency a man would be like, I don't get why a woman's into horoscope. Niggas love street niggas more than the girls love them now. Yes. This is the biggest. That's the. There you go. So the niggas see another street nigga and they want to be him. Yeah. Is so stupid.

[A]

I understand the acceptance thing, and I understand that. But I just feel like when you really come from it and you get to a certain point where you're removed and you safe, and not even safe, but like, you just. You're making a life for yourself. It's like, why do you even like Lauren?

[B]

I'm not trying to roll. I'm gonna tell you. You're too intelligent for this combo.

[A]

I wish everybody was. We wouldn't be here. We wouldn't have no doubt.

[B]

I'm gonna tell you, you one thing, you're overlooking one thing. These niggas are dumb.

[A]

Men are dumb.

[B]

All they're not men we not gonna talk about. Cause they're women that are dumb. We're gonna leave it to where you was talking. Where was the discussion at? Yes.

[A]

People that still want to be in the streets.

[B]

Okay? Boom. We're gonna leave it there. We're not gonna talk about men. Because if women want to be in the streets, men want to be in the streets, too. Okay? There you go. These people. Because I'm gonna tell you about women gangsters. I just talked about women gangsters just walking up to me talking about that they want to be on. So they trap queens and all. Everybody gotta relax, okay? Everybody in the streets. Everybody in the streets. Everybody gotta relax. Everybody know I've been in the. I've been in the street. It's no secret. It's not. It's not the move. It's not sexy. And I don't say that. I say the streets is unfair. They don't teach us young kids that when you trying to go out there and get money and do things, they don't show you that it's unfair, right? And people get caught up in that lifestyle.

[A]

That's my point. It's like when you finally get out in a way from all of that, I know I'm like, probably very hopefully speaking. I just would love to think that once you start seeing something, it's like.

[B]

So they get undone. So they get undone.

[A]

No, that's what you telling me. Not undone. But would you at least admit that some people sometimes get to a certain point where they know that thug right now should know he's hot. He can't do anything if he ever thought he could. People, they care too much about him. If what you guys are saying are true, this is a coordinated attack. Imagine him trying to go out and be in the streets right now. That would be stupid.

[B]

That's the point, right?

[A]

That Would be stupid, but he's gonna.

[B]

He could burn out and do that.

[A]

But I'm saying. But what I'm saying is, is that I would like to think that when you get to where he is, right, where you've had to go through things and you realize things, whatever, you'd be like, nah, I'm gonna just chill.

[B]

I'll give you an example. You are the preeminent. Go to figure to all the stuff with the Diddy case, quote unquote, right? No, no. Let me show you something. No, let me show you something. He's older. He's been outside. And when everything was happening, he was still outside partying, making apologies that wasn't sincere, doing the same thing, having malfunctions in real time.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So if that's Diddy doing that, what do you expect from Thug? They're gonna learn from what Puffy did. Are you sure Thug isn't outside? This stuff is old. It's surfacing, bro. Not anybody that got anything. Let me ask you something. You think this is the last tape to come out? No, no, no, no. Oh, they're gonna keep it going.

[A]

That was running Case and Georgia State, he got some more calls.

[B]

So then if you keep hitting the wall, eventually it's gonna crack. That's the point. Yeah, they gonna try to. They trying to get at him.

[A]

Well, speaking of more tapes, there was another one that also released. This one is new, where this one actually came out. What was this Yesterday? Today?

[B]

Is this the Glorilla?

[A]

No. Yeah, that's just. I just saw this today.

[B]

Glorilla, I saw it right before you walked in.

[A]

Yes, that's what you trying to say. I'm a part of the coordinated attack. No, please clarify. Come on. I saw it right before you walked in. What you trying to say?

[B]

I'mma tell y', all this girl saw us at a barbecue and walked up on me like she had a gun. So I ain't going to be no Lauren LaRosa. Slander. Speaking of which, you had a lot of girls mad at me too.

[A]

Why?

[B]

They was like, how dare you talk to my friend like that? And I saw you talking to her and everything. You was looking like steak. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I owe you.

[A]

Are you talking about at the barbecue? They was managing.

[B]

Yeah. When you ran down, we was talking and they were looking. And when you walked, you didn't tell.

[A]

Them, though, that it was like. Cuz people, I think I. I mean.

[B]

You didn't do nothing wrong.

[A]

No, I know I didn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm a. I'M I'm like, girly, but, like, people don't know that. Mind you. I didn't. My energy is not ever. Like, it's a bit aggressive.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Aggressive. It's a bit. But I think people don't expect that from me. So they probably what they thought the conversation was. But I was like, yo, what's up? Like, why y' all talking about I don't want to come and all that? Like, like, I'm here like you. I'm not hard to find. Like, what's up? That was what the conversation was.

[B]

Oh, but for the optically. Oh, damn. Oh, the rollout was beautiful. That's how you talk to her. She was all made up and everything. Yeah. Conversation was on when I walked past her. When she stopped me, she was talking to a nigga, so I already had her.

[A]

Don't do that. Cause I gotta meet. And y' all about to make that real. Cause that was not what was happening. I was saying hello to everybody in the barbecue. Do not do that. Okay, we are not gonna do that one. Y' all try to spice it or the whatever I got video.

[B]

No, I didn't know.

[A]

My.

[B]

My.

[A]

I was talking to Shiggy when you walked by.

[B]

No, that wasn't. You going to leave it alone.

[A]

I don't know what you talking about right now. Talking about me. You a part of the coordinated attack. What is happening right now? Gloa Audio Jail called. Let's bring that.

[B]

I saw this. I saw the girl, the girls. The girl gorilla.

[A]

She. Yeah.

[B]

Why don't people say she pretty? That be ugly as. You think she ugly. You said it like, yeah, they say she ain't ugly. People. People be saying.

[A]

They be saying she look like Rihanna, man.

[B]

Be like, goddamn, Brian.

[A]

Oh, man, she look like Rihanna.

[B]

Long ass wig, skinny goddamn big ass.

[A]

Head, big mouth, man. Watch out now. Now, the crazy thing about that audio is Glorilla tweeted in response. Mind you, this the same. Blowing my phone up to ask what color my eyes is. Laugh my ass off.

[B]

But you know what that play is about now? Because he's with his lady now. It's internal strife. It's systematic. It's easy work. And if he loses his lady, that. That traumatizes dudes. They'd be like, damn, I lost my. My main girl that I actually like being around because she like, so did you fuck her? You'd be like, no. You sound like you did or you want to. You don't like me. So he's getting intact internally. He's getting attacked Publicly, privately. This is systematically. This psyops right here is amazing.

[A]

Yo, you be me explaining like that all the time, Manspl. Because how did you miss the whole point of you thug is sitting on the phone with his girlfriend, right? Having a full conversation about this girl, downplaying this girl, dragging this girl. You got your girlfriend engaging in the whatever. And your girlfriend is not just anybody. She's Mariah the scientist, who we've already seen. You know, y' all had a little public. Like, we saw the girl come visit you. You had to get in line and all apologies, right? So here she is about to be embarrassed again. Because now gorilla. Now gorilla is coming again, saying. Or coming now and saying. Hold on. What you talking about? Who trying to smack you? Ask him to color my eyes. Did you think he wanted to color her eyes because he wants the contacts to match or.

[B]

No, that's the point. And even if she's with it now, everybody gonna be in her ear. Oh, you let your man do that. You know, people are fake, judgmental.

[A]

How are you.

[B]

It's not true.

[A]

But how are you getting that from this? Your takeaway should be. Yo, that's messed up. Why is he even discussing Glorilla knowing you wanted.

[B]

No, no, the men. Let's not do this. Men and women talk like this candidly and privately. He doesn't know he's being taped like that. If he's not paying attention, they just leaking a private convo. That's just what it is. Can I ask you a question? But at what point did we see Glorilla's DMs? Or did she just say this?

[A]

This is. This is what I'm gonna say. This is what I'm gonna say, though. We didn't see him. But if you're Glorilla in the midst of all of this saying that, you know, the next step is people gonna wanna. Especially because he has a girlfriend. So Mariah the scientist, naturally. I mean, I want to see if I'm her. Hey, well, post the text. I want to see it. Because it's not even about me and you, Mariah's scientist and Glorilla, it's. I need to have a conversation with him because why are we even discussing somebody that. You know what I mean? Whether he had that conversation early on and his interaction with Glorilla came later, or his interaction with Glorilla was a long time ago and then he had that conversation, regardless, it happened. And I need to understand everything that's the same. So Glorilla knows she might have to show some receipts. So she don't strike me as the type to just get online. She strike you as that?

[B]

I've never met her.

[A]

She doesn't strike me as that type.

[B]

Yeah, but either way. Now he's jammed up. Either way, whether she's with. Let's just say his girl is with the action now. People that's in his girl's life are gonna be asking her questions. Oh yeah, it's already questionable. Exactly. So that's where I'm coming from. Stood by homeboy this time. Yeah, the girl done came to jail. She's the faithful man now. This is something else that could be going on, you know what I'm saying? He's supposedly bad. She's a street guy. Her father is supposedly a cop, an ex cop and all this. But he's like, we already know how that type of stuff goes down. People start talking like, you gonna have to start distancing yourself from him babes.

[A]

Because of her like work and all the things.

[B]

Exactly. It can hurt her career.

[A]

But Mariah the scientist rolled that wave out the whole time though. Even after old girl came to the. There was the videos of the visit that leaked and all that. She rolled that out.

[B]

Maybe she let somebody. I can curse up here.

[A]

Yeah, you can curse over here.

[B]

Maybe she lets them. You know, people got regular. You know, people got relationship. They got open relationships. They got. We don't know that they be probably. But maybe she lets them. Maybe isn't a big deal.

[A]

I will say though, from after that visit happened where Devin Haney's child's mom came and saw Young Thug, the way Young Thug came online and had to clarify. I only want this and you know what I mean. And throwing his love towards Mariah the Scientist. It didn't seem like it was an open situation. But we don't know.

[B]

I mean, this is all speculation. It's all a movie. So she don't like we know people lives different type of personal lives and you don't want your family knowing like I'm letting him do whatever or we do menages or we do this. So you. You gotta come out and say something because if you don't say anything, that means you're allowing this and this is cool. I mean, Rick, Lauren, in fairness, you went through this.

[A]

Who.

[B]

What you mean? With you? And just hilarious. People were speculating, man.

[A]

Because what?

[B]

No, I'm just not like that boyfriend now. No, we're not talking about relationship.

[A]

I'm trying to figure out like what, man, you associated me with that so much Mini and, oh, I. Babe, I made a mistake before. The mistake become a tool.

[B]

No, but what I'm saying is when y' all went through that, right? Publicly, how people were looking at it, I'm pretty sure people were hitting your phone, making up stories. That's not true.

[A]

Making up. But people have their opinions. And you do get the noise.

[B]

Yeah, but the noise. Then people take the noise into another stratosphere. You dig what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then your close confidants are hitting you. You can give them whatever the real perspective is, but it's over and over and over again. Your DMs, your messages, all of that, you know, same. Same rules apply.

[A]

But I meant. But that's why I said this is not her first rodeo with that, though. Because once. Once that happens one time, right? And then you realize, like, okay, I might can't pick up the phone for everybody. I might can't give everybody my perspective or voice my opinion. Cause then now they may. You know what I mean? You learn kind of how to navigate a situation. This is not her first rodeo with there being a conversation about thug, another woman, his jail sentence, and her like, her, like, life. You know what I mean? Like, this is not her first time. So she knows how she wants to navigate it and who to pick up the phone for, whatever. I think my main point in. To me this looking crazy. It just doesn't. It just looks crazy.

[B]

Like, what's crazy about it specifically?

[A]

If Glorilla is tasked with showing any receipts and she's able to. It looks crazy on Mariah the scientist's part because it is like, if there is not no open relationship, you've held it down. Not only did she hold it down, but there's been conversations from his family about how she made sure his kids saw him talk. Like she really. And she's a woman with a very demanding career at that. So obviously she really loves this man. Right.

[B]

Guess what you did? What? You justified the rollout.

[A]

The rollout of what?

[B]

The impact of this. If you feel like that there's no open relationship and now Mariah has to now recrystallize what the relationship is and figure it out. These tapes are working.

[A]

So you're alleging that the state of Georgia is using Mariah, the scientists, to break Young Thug down and to everything and to get their get back because he embarrassed them.

[B]

How many millions did Georgia lose on letting that man go free?

[A]

I don't know the number.

[B]

It's a lot.

[A]

I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers. On the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered Black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting Black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tameka Anderson as she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tamika never bought the car and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission. Save our Girls. Join the search as we explore the chilling community cases of missing and murdered Black women and girls. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford and in session 421 of Therapy for Black Girls, I sit down with Dr. Aya and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health and the ways we heal. Guys, I think think hair is a complex language system, right? In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, your spiritual belief. But I think with social media there's like a hyper fixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our hair is styled. We talk about the important role hairstylists play in our communities, the pressure to always look put together and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela Neal Barnett where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I.

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Outcome as a result of it, if it's going to be beneficial to you.

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Because it's easy to say like, like you go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer.

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It's easy to ignore, to suppress seeing.

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A colleague who's bothering you and just, like, walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier.

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And the Ad Council. They lost a lot of money. You think white people like losing money to black people? I worked in corporate structures. They're gonna get the money back. Look at Covid. When they gave us all that money. They've been getting it back. Come on, Lauren, because you was big on the Diddy case, I'm just gonna say this. Before all this stuff went down. Yes. He had Rory on backfield. And I said, rory, the biggest problem with Puffy was Diageo. This is before anybody heard him calling him out, yo, yo. Yes. I swear to God, we was the first dudes to say this. Yeah, we were the very first. That everybody laughed at us. Oh, we're crazy. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[A]

Well, that's. I mean, it's like, who you talking to? Because anybody knew when you saw that even if what he was alleging Diageo did, which was not spend marketing dollars. Right. With him and his alcohol brands because he was a black man. Even if that were true, you know, that's a crazy uphill battle because you're a black man versus a corporation. We never found out what was happening, what wasn't. Diageo said that that was not the case.

[B]

Rory was in our. Was on our show. He said, I worked for Diageo and all this, and y' all have to be crazy to even think one has to do with another. And I said, when it comes to a black man shining, all stops come out for the. So while we think thug is not a big deal, I want to ruin. But the way that they're approaching it, like, yes, I want to ruin his life with Mariah. I want him to have to deal with women that he can't trust and is going to use him now and run him in the ground. We don't want him to have any backbone. So now we want him to look crazy to everybody that worships the ground that he walks on. Oh, he's a snitch just like everybody else. Player. He's no different. And we're gonna run this train all the way down. Whatever the next thing is with Doug, we want to break his whole train down. And you know what happens when you break a train down? He makes him back out to the streets, and they go start. Let me ask questions. How long is he on probation for?

[A]

I don't even remember the number.

[B]

10 years. No, 10 years. So we need to break him down to the compound. Yes.

[A]

Circumstances is crazy, too. Like. Like, he can't go to Atlanta. He can't. Like, there's a lot.

[B]

So now with this attack, all he has to do is make one mistake. That's it, and he back. Got him.

[A]

He only had to make one mistake before these calls, though, y'. All.

[B]

But no, but the mistake that we're talking about is getting him to go back to jail.

[A]

Oh, you said, like, we want to get. You're alleging like they're pushing. This is another way to push somebody to the edge.

[B]

Talk to black men. We. Yo, it's not obvious. We not going to just say, we're going to do it. We're going to do it slowly. Yeah, it's a long play. We're putting you. We're slowly putting you in the corner. And when you get in that corner, you know what you gotta do? You gotta fight your way out. Now, you ain't the same nigga no more. Let me show you a record.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. What's up?

[A]

I was gonna say before we move on.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Right. If what you guys are alleging is the case.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Here is me taking it back to personal responsibility again. Because I ain't never been locked up, but I know the calls are recorded. Why you on the phone with all this anyway?

[B]

Wait, what did Esso said? Hold on. What did he say? Six minutes ago. These niggas are dumb. Thank Lord of LaRosa. Lord of LaRosa. That's why I say you're too smart. You're too smart for this combo. What's happening? Lord of LaRosa. These niggas are there. She keeps trying to figure it out.

[A]

I've been with these people trying to figure it out. I guess I'm.

[B]

You are too intelligent for this movie.

[A]

It's not the obvious, because I would like to think that. I would like to think that someone like a young thug who has been able to navigate so much. Would just maybe just bling.

[B]

Like, come on, Lauren, I've been with the. I grew up in the music business. Jesus. I've been around these guys for years. Guys that's not even around anymore. They don't exist. The new one, yo, they're that fucking dumb. Her problem is she's only around genius men. Charlemagne.

[A]

Envy every genius man. I've known stupid men, too.

[B]

Yeah, but at a high level. It's way more higher than the average woman.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

So you have an expectation of intelligence from a man?

[A]

I'm always gonna have. Even before I'm around. Whatever. Whatever. The way I was raised, I'm always gonna have an expectation for men.

[B]

Apologies.

[A]

Only I don't always have expectation for y' all because I know what if when things are applied the right way and done the right way, the brilliance that happens. So that's. That's just me in general. That's just what I give.

[B]

But did you grow up with your father?

[A]

No, not in my household. No.

[B]

But my. But was he in your life?

[A]

I mean, he got in my life around, like, 14.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, we. I mean, we have, like a touch and go relationship, but, like, we cool. Like, I could call him and whatever, but my brother's dad was in my life. He didn't live with us, but he was actively in my life, though.

[B]

Okay, well, you had. That's what. Yeah, my brother figure. Because your outlook. I always. I grew up with both my parents in the house, which is very rare. But I do realize that women that have fathers or significant men in their life as leaders, y' all think differently. I don't think like the other women that's out here.

[A]

I think also too, though, like, I have a younger brother, and I've always been. I mean, I'm the oldest child in the house, so for me and my little brother was like, you know, in and out of things. And, you know, he got into, like. We've had to go through all of this with him. So watching my mom.

[B]

Mom.

[A]

Fight for him every step of the way, even today, I'd be like, yo, bro. Like, mom, he's grown. And she'd be like, you won't understand until you have kids yourself. Especially when you're raising a black man in this world. Like, you don't just give up on them. Right? So for me, I think the nurture, that. That's basically what y' all are feeling. There's a nurturing part of me that just would love to hope that one day the Dumbness turns off and the light turns on. Because if not, that could cost you your life. It could cost you.

[B]

How you provide for your perspective is so neat. What about reaction, reality of the situation?

[A]

Why are you being recorded? If you was trying to figure out what color Glorilla eyes is, and it's not because you want the matching context, why are you having a conversation with Mariah the scientist about her? The reality of this is this is great for content, but it's stupid for his real life.

[B]

And that's all I'm saying. And I. And for me, I'm tired of being the black dude being torn down and looking crazy being the topic of discussion. It's slick, annoying right now, like us people, whatever. You just gotta find a way just to do better and be smarter. We're less impulsive, us black people. We are so passionate about our stuff. But even myself, I could have a tendency to react to things poorly when they don't go my way. That's a black thing. I see a lot of white people.

[A]

I think that's a black thing. I think that's a passion thing. We are. Because we are passionate. Yeah, we're very like.

[B]

That makes it a black. That makes it a black. That makes it a black. But to be fair, though, people do wig out in other ways. We don't shoot up schools when we're tight. That's true. All right, come on now. We going based upon. Think about this, think about this, think about this. Yo, see, let me say this to you. Let me say this. What's up, E? We sat with Ghostface today, right? Yes. We talked about Nas, right? And I asked him a question. Why? Like, why do you. What is it about Nas, about his personality and who he is, to make you trust him so much or whatever? And the first thing he said was, he's calm. And that's so different to black people that Nan, yo, he's looked at as a sign of weakness sometimes amongst our culture.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, as a woman. A calm man to me is a man with a plan because he is watching all the perimeters.

[B]

I want to be more calm, too.

[A]

What's happening? He knows in real time he can think for both of us.

[B]

Let me show you something.

[A]

So calm he can feel and understand.

[B]

Because of how it looks on camera, right? I'll be more laid back. So everybody's like, he's the mean one. And he's like, they say I'm the mean, but it's in reverse.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Really? You mean.

[A]

Yeah, I thought. I mean, you Just said, I think you hate women. And you might have some issues, but you don't strike me as mean. You're, like, very. Like, outside of women, in relationships, you're very jolly and happy.

[B]

No, he's not. I'm.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

No, he's not. We had an incident at the Honey Baby Sit. I had to fix this one girl. She lost her mind. She lost her mind, remember? You know that girl. But. But I'm just saying it's perception. Things be funny, like, because. Because we laugh about. Like, that is a big thing that we laugh about. Everybody's like, he's the me. And I. Everybody walks around me, like. Like, I don't know. So I approach him, and I be looking at people like, this nigga's the mean. But, like, I'm. I be chilling. I be my weed.

[A]

Y' all thought I was me before I said something to y', all, like, before y' all met me in real life.

[B]

No, I was like, she feisty. Nah, I didn't even. No, I don't have it. I mean that in a good way.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

I didn't think you were flirting or anything. It's just your feisty thought about you. I'mma be honest. I didn't know you from the other stuff. And I asked Heineken, I was like, who? I said, tmz. I know your res. Like, you do amazing work. And I'm not being funny. I just think that what attracted me to your style and what you do is you're really good at what you do. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Some people. I'm gonna tell you what it is. She's a real journalist. Some people.

[A]

There's a lot of real journalists in the world, though. People think that this is like. Like, I. All my friends get busy. Like, they really. Like, I could call somebody and get. And reach people in places you're not supposed to reach them, depending on the topic matter. Because all my friends really do do this.

[B]

But I think certain people just have sauce. That's. That's my thing. You can't pinpoint it. Right.

[A]

I appreciate it.

[B]

And when it. When it's you, I think you have it. And the other girl, I with Gina views a lot. She got a different type, and I didn't know about her. It was a dude from California that called her on the phone and was like, yo, y' all gotta follow each other. That's how I found out. It was before the head and stuff like that DJ had take. Because that sounds crazy. You Said that was before the DJ head show she has with me before.

[A]

Effective immediately. Shout out to head too. That's my.

[B]

Yeah. So the dude had put us in in touch and we followed. So I started watching her and I, I see what she's doing with the freestyle platform, but it's the sauce that's in it. It's whatever she's doing before the people push her out the way. It's the idea, it's the shirts that she has that kicks back to what she says and what she's doing. All of that is swags me. All that is sauce. That's all, all that is different. Everybody don't have that. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I look for. And I'm not big on. I don't really watch content. So I just see whatever catches my eye, you know what I'm saying? And those type of things catch my eye.

[A]

Well, I appreciate that. Well, y', all, we got it in the episode because our editors are gonna be screaming at me. But it has been an amazing episode. I thank you guys for joining me on the podcast. Y' all pop the studio's cherry.

[B]

Thank you. We appreciate the hospitality. Do that. The numbers be going crazy, crazy.

[A]

I appreciate you guys for joining me. So listen, this has been another episode of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. I tell you guys all the time, my low riders. At the end of the day, y' all could be anywhere with anybody having these conversations, talking about all these things because there is always a lot to talk about about. But you guys are always right here with me and I appreciate you guys for it. I'll catch you guys in the next episode. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. Stories like Erica Hunt. A young mother vanished without a trace after a family gathered on 4th of July weekend 2016. No goodbyes, no clues, just gone. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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