Achilles Anus

Summary

Summary of "Achilles Anus" - The Brilliant Idiots Podcast

Release Date: February 1, 2025
Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz
Guests: Daphne Springs and Hezekiah Walker

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1. Martin Lawrence’s Stand-Up Performance

Duration: 00:30 – 05:00

Charlamagne shares his recent experience attending Martin Lawrence’s stand-up show in Atlantic City. He expresses surprise at Martin’s performance, noting, “Martin was good” (01:02) and appreciating how Martin embraces his age, stating, “he leans into that. He’s not out there trying to be the young guy” (02:36). Daphne Springs adds, “Martin's the truth” (03:22), highlighting Martin's authenticity and ability to connect with the audience through callbacks to his characters.

2. Jimmy Butler and NBA Salary Cap Discussions

Duration: 05:00 – 16:00

The conversation shifts to Jimmy Butler and his impact on the Miami Heat. Charlamagne questions, “Can Jimmy Butler win you a championship in the next four years?” (11:50), while Daphne analyzes the complexities of NBA salary caps and team dynamics. They discuss the challenges of retaining star players without compromising team chemistry, emphasizing the strategic decisions GMs must make. Charlamagne remarks, “If I'm Jimmy Butler, I want to get my money, right?” (11:59), underscoring the balance between player compensation and team success.

3. Defining Culture and Subcultures

Duration: 16:00 – 30:00

Hezekiah Walker joins to explore the nuances of culture versus shared lived experiences. Charlamagne asserts, “hip hop is a culture” (25:42), while Daphne critiques the oversimplification of black culture in America: “black culture exists in America as one monolith” (22:28). They delve into the importance of recognizing regional and ethnic subcultures, with Daphne emphasizing, “there’s a shared pool of slang words that we kind of use” (25:08). The discussion highlights the diversity within cultural groups and the pitfalls of stereotypes.

4. Gay Culture and Humor

Duration: 30:00 – 45:00

The hosts discuss the intersection of gay culture and humor, focusing on the historical use of “funny” as a euphemism for being gay. Charlamagne explains, “funny can mean unusual or different” (44:57), while Daphne emphasizes the importance of understanding cultural nuances in humor: “make sure that you actually make an effort to learn about them” (33:52). They stress that informed humor can honor communities, whereas ignorant jokes can alienate and offend.

5. Diddy and Substance Use

Duration: 45:00 – 60:00

The conversation turns to Diddy, exploring his struggles with substance use and escapism. Charlamagne theorizes, “he was trying to escape something, and his escape is drugs, alcohol, and sex” (37:04). They discuss Diddy's mental health, referencing a recorded moment where Diddy admits, “I can’t think of the last time I’ve been happy” (38:47). The hosts reflect on the pressures of fame and the impact of personal grief on Diddy's behavior.

6. Deportation and Immigration Policy

Duration: 60:00 – 85:00

Charlamagne and Daphne delve into immigration, debating the morality and practicality of deporting families who arrived illegally without committing violent crimes. Daphne advocates for empathy, stating, “they have families here and they have a life here” (70:06), while Charlamagne argues for prioritizing criminals, “You should be deported immediately, Period” (82:18). They discuss the societal and political divides surrounding immigration reform, referencing Selena Gomez’s emotional response to Senator Sam Parker’s comment “Deport Selena Gomez” and critiquing the superficial handling of such issues for political optics.

7. Culture and Stereotyping Revisited

Duration: 85:00 – 100:00

The hosts return to the topic of cultural stereotypes, emphasizing the diversity within racial and ethnic groups. Daphne notes, “there are racism and colorism that exists in these countries as well” (76:12), while Charlamagne highlights the complexity of cultural identity: “Canelo Alvarez is a white Mexican” (75:35). They argue against broad stereotypes, advocating for a deeper understanding of individual and regional cultural influences.

8. Sports, Marriage, and Personal Anecdotes

Duration: 100:00 – End

In the closing segment, the hosts discuss sports figures like Canelo Alvarez and Kendrick Lamar, debating their cultural impact and potential for event performances. Charlamagne emphasizes the significance of weight classes in boxing, questioning the fairness of Canelo facing larger opponents: “if he is playing, he can win you a game” (11:46). They also share personal stories about relationships and impending parenthood, blending humor with heartfelt moments. The episode concludes with reflections on personal growth and community investment, encouraging listeners to support their roots and invest in their local communities.

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Notable Quotes:

• Charlamagne Tha God on Martin Lawrence: “he's doing callbacks to like his characters” (02:03)
• Daphne Springs on Empathy in Deportation: “they have families here and they have a life here” (70:06)
• Charlamagne Tha God on Jimmy Butler: “Can Jimmy Butler win you a championship in the next four years?” (11:50)
• Daphne Springs on Cultural Diversity: “black culture exists in America as one monolith” (22:28)
• Charlamagne Tha God on Substance Use: “he was trying to escape something, and his escape is drugs, alcohol, and sex” (37:04)

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This summary captures the key discussions, insights, and conclusions from the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't listened. The notable quotes are included with proper attribution and timestamps to highlight significant moments in the conversation.

Transcript

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep. Charlamagne. Tha God.

[Daphne Springs]

Andrew Schull.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hezekiah Walker.

[Daphne Springs]

Yes, sir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you feeling, man?

[Daphne Springs]

I like that shirt, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Martin.

[Daphne Springs]

Shout out to goat Martin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I went to go see Martin Saturday in Atlantic City. He was on Breakfast Club last week. And I happened to be in Atlantic City this weekend cause of my daughter's cheerleading competition. And so he was performing Saturday night at the Hard Rock Cafe. They got the. Was it the theater at the Hard Rock Cafe?

[Daphne Springs]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So some type of Arena Athena or something. So I went to go check out Martin.

[Daphne Springs]

How was Marty Mar.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Martin was good. You know what's so interesting? I didn't know what to expect, you know. And he had. Who was I? It was Daphne. Daphne Springs. Is her last name Springs? Look up who performed with Martin. I know. It's definitely Benji Brown. It was Benji Brown and I know her name is Daphne. It's either Daphne or Daphne. She was funny as shit.

[Daphne Springs]

Benji used to open for Duval.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Daphneque used to. Daphneque opened up. I think her last name was Springs, meaning. But she was funny as shit. She had this white dude behind me, so mad. And it wasn't a race thing. He was just mad cause she was on some woman shit.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, Daphne Springs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Daphne Springs.

[Daphne Springs]

She's at the Cellar. She's great, dude.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hilarious.

[Daphne Springs]

She is hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She had a white dude behind me, so mad.

[Daphne Springs]

Why? What happened?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

His wife kept telling him to shut the fuck up and he would not listen. Like, no, she's disgusting. She's disgusting.

[Daphne Springs]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you mean?

[Daphne Springs]

She's not even dirty like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah. What was. I mean, I'm not gonna say none of her jokes, but it was just like a lot. It was just good jokes, but it was about like women who. Ah. I can't do it without telling the joke.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, yeah, same thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But yeah, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do without telling joke.

[Daphne Springs]

Dee Springs, I think her name is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, I can say this. The pregnancy bit. Daphne had that dude mad as a motherfucker. Oh, my God, make him mad, man. If he could call the police on.

[Daphne Springs]

You, he would make him mad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why would somebody do it? He turned. Why would somebody do that? Why would you do that? I'm like, God, it's a joke, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

Make a mad fact.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then Benji was funny as a motherfucker. And then Martin, man, I was pleasantly surprised because I didn't know what to expect from a Martin standup. In 2025, Martin did an hour and 15 minutes.

[Daphne Springs]

Wow. Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, for all these conversations people having about Martin health and everything. Martin did an hour and 15 minutes. Just like he's 60 years old now and he leans into that. He not out there trying to be the young guy. He's Talking about being 60 and best.

[Daphne Springs]

Feels like best hosts of Def Comedy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not even close. Okay, Was there another host? I don't remember another host.

[Daphne Springs]

That's how impactful.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't remember. But you know, I like it because he sets the tone. Cause they put up a 10 minute trailer and it's literally just that it's 10 minutes of Martin on Def Comedy Jam. So it shows him hosting shows him doing. It's a combination of him hosting Def Comedy Jam and his different standup specials. And you just like, damn, yo, this dude really.

[Daphne Springs]

Martin's the truth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then it flashes after that plays. Then it does like an intro that just kind of shows you his life. So it shows you like the movies and the TV show and everything. And you like, yo, that's fucking Martin Lawrence. And then he just comes out there and he just talks to you for hour 15 minutes. But it's funny, you know, it's jokes and shit like that. And you know he's doing callbacks to like his characters and shit like that. And people are yelling characters they want him to do. And he's doing them from the stage was good, good. Then he sells merch. You see, I got the Martin hoodie on right now.

[Daphne Springs]

Purchase fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I had to go get the Martin hoodie. But yeah, shout out to the gold, Martin, man. Where does Martin rank?

[Daphne Springs]

You know, it's so weird because he's one of those guys that I think Seinfeld is very similar where the show, the TV show was so impactful, you almost kind of like, forget about the stand up. Like, I don't think the average person can remember like a Seinfeld special's name.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He did specials.

[Daphne Springs]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I really don't. I've never seen. I've never seen Seinfeld.

[Daphne Springs]

Let me, let me blow your mind a lot before the TV show. He was one of the biggest comedians in America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really? Of course. That's why, by the way, why you got to do.

[Daphne Springs]

Obviously, obviously. But, like, we just don't. Like, sometimes you could have something that's so impactful that it overshadows the other work. I watched. I'm pretty sure I watched one of Martin's specials in the movie theater.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me too.

[Daphne Springs]

That's how big it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I run tell that in the movie theater was.

[Daphne Springs]

It was run tell that. Right? And like, so. But what happened is Martin had this unbelievably popular TV show that we all watched. It, like, dominated culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then he had.

[Daphne Springs]

And then he had movies that dominated culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, man.

[Daphne Springs]

So a lot of people don't remember this, but, like, he was top billing for Bad Boys one.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Oh, shit. Over.

[Daphne Springs]

Well over Will. That's how big Martin was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Wow.

[Daphne Springs]

So I think what happens is when that catalog becomes, I don't know, more synonymous with the person, sometimes you forget about this. Maybe the stand up. But I mean, his early stand up. The big leather outfit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Crazy.

[Daphne Springs]

Ripping in sweat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Crazy.

[Daphne Springs]

Crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see the eight ball jacket. Now you think of Martin.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Daphne Springs]

Guy to slap that girl on the subway.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Martin slapped the girl in the subway.

[Daphne Springs]

No, the eight ball jacket got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He had an eight ball jacket on.

[Daphne Springs]

I thought it was a pelly Pelly at eightball jackets.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I remember the dude that had the on. Oh, yes, absolutely. That was a slap.

[Daphne Springs]

It was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody got mad at it.

[Daphne Springs]

Shout out Light skins, bro. Everybody thinks light skin soft until you see one with an eight ball.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why the smack that girl? Yo, I forgot.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Hezekiah Walker]

New York, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you. You made up. You brought up a great point about Martin, though. Martin had so many. He was one of those guys that actually was great at quite a few different things. The standup, the TV show, and the movies. Like, and I don't want to say these things cancel each other out, but you don't think of them all in their totality, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

It's. He had. He had like, three different careers. Like, if you had one, four or four.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like I'm saying, like the Def Comedy Jam. You got to put that in there.

[Daphne Springs]

I put that in. Stand up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay.

[Daphne Springs]

Like, if you just had his standup career, you'd be like, oh, my God, I'm the luckiest human being on the planet. If you just had his TV show, you'd be like, I'm the luckiest on the planet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man.

[Daphne Springs]

Just had his movies. You go, I'm the luckiest dude on the planet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. That is great.

[Daphne Springs]

So it is. But it is peculiar that maybe he's not spoken about with that same reverence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why. Like, seriously, I'm not even. I never even thought about that. I thought about it a little bit this weekend because I've always held Martin in high regard. I mean, but when people bring up the goats, you don't hear Martin in the conversation.

[Daphne Springs]

I didn't watch Seinfeld growing up. I watched Martin. That's how impactful Marvin was. And I grew up in New York City.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You told me Martin was the one that inspired you to do comedy, right?

[Daphne Springs]

No, no, no, no, no. That was. That was Eddie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Eddie. I'm sorry.

[Daphne Springs]

Eddie and Chris. Okay, Eddie and Chris. I remember reading Chris's book, you know, remember when they would take the stand up and kind of, like, make it a book? I remember reading Chris's book and I remember just being. I remember just being so, like, excited at the way he would, like, twist ideas and use, like, logic and arguments, and I'd be like, oh, you can. You can justify anything because he's like, being a lawyer. Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The reason I like Mark, because he was one of the first celebrities that I saw confront the Head On.

[Daphne Springs]

What do you say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember when everybody was. There was the whole thing about he was running in LA butt naked or some like that. And then there was like a big tabloid story, but on run tell that he talked about it. Talked about it, like, head on and it didn't. It's not like nowadays where something happens and you're sitting by your phone waiting for the person to tweet or waiting for the person to do a video.

[Daphne Springs]

You had to put out a special.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You had to put out a special or go do a press conference or something. I don't even know what the time difference was between Martin's, that scandal and then the special. But we waited on the special.

[Daphne Springs]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then when he came with the special, he told us. He was like, look, man, I was high as a motherfucker. That was it. We knew it. Like, we knew you had to leave. Like, that was it. So I go out in the street and I go to run across the street. I was trying to catch the light.

[Chris]

I go to run across the street.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And because how the light changed, I got caught in the middle of the street. Next thing I know, they got firemen, they got ambulance, they got the police. Everybody out there with guns. All of them had guns out there. Just because I tried to run across the street.

[Chris]

Nah, I fuck with y' all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was high than a motherfucker, y' all. I was high as. Oh, my goodness. Oh, I was smoking that. That had had me on Lunch Box. I was high as a man. That had me. That weed had me gone. Whatever. I don't even know what the draw. I think it was weed, but he. He was. He. He faced it head on. Run tell that's. That's what it's called. Run tell that now. Go. Run tell that.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If y' all want to, you know, gossip about everything else.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah. Nah. Shout out Martin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, he's the goat.

[Daphne Springs]

Life is incredible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You want to do some. All memes. Matt, what'd you do this week, man? What'd you do this weekend?

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, I thought a lot about Taylor, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, we're not going to talk about that. Lie.

[Daphne Springs]

I did think a lot about her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You was doing Padell.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, yeah. I was down in Miami playing Paddle, man. Paddle with. Yeah, that was fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why the fuck did you make all the blogs with Jimmy Butler? Like, why was that?

[Daphne Springs]

Stop Clout. You didn't realize this yet? They cannot talk about me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, they was like, yo, Jimmy Butler is suspended, but he's down in Miami with Andrew Schultz. Like, what?

[Daphne Springs]

I don't know what to tell you. You want the people to click or not?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was y' all talking about? I saw y' all whispering. He said, what was he saying to you?

[Daphne Springs]

It was whispers, bro. I can't share. You know, the guy. The man told me something in confidence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

Now, it was funny because we were at the party, and I was like. I made a. Like, a little joke at the party. I was basically like, by the way, guys, Jimmy Butler is not here right now. He's at the, you know, heat facility practicing. I just want to let everybody know, you know, I'm on the mic, just teasing, because he shouldn't be there, according to, like, what the team would want him to do. I'm like, I wake up in the morning, I'm like, I'm not going to post any picture with Jimmy. I don't want to get him in trouble. He's a nice guy, you know, in the morning, I'm tagged in something is Jimmy Butler posting the video of me going, jimmy Butler is not here at this party.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Jimmy posted this.

[Daphne Springs]

So he was leaning into it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He trying to get the fuck out of Miami. I mean, who tries to get out of Miami?

[Daphne Springs]

But they did him wrong, bro. They did him wrong. They should have given him the extension. They didn't give him an Extension. Then they waited, and then they got their tail tucked between their legs and they're like, oh, well, now we want to give you the extension. It's like, oh, well, that's not how you make your marquee player feel wanted.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love Jimmy Butler. I think Jimmy Butler is fan fucking tactic. I'm just thinking about it from a business perspective. Do you give him the max extension?

[Daphne Springs]

Here's the thing, a business perspective, right? You're like, okay, let me go get some young stud and pay them. Of course, Jimmy's 36 years old, but the other side of that is there are maybe like five players in the league that are dogs and they could turn it on in the playoffs and they themselves can win you a playoff game. Yeah, like, Jimmy by himself is going to win you one game by himself. Kevin can do it probably when he's healthy. Joel and B can do it. Like, there are maybe five or seven guys in the league.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Has almost missed as many games he's played.

[Chris]

400.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's almost. He's almost missed as many games as he's played.

[Daphne Springs]

But if he is playing, he can win you a game, but can he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Win you a championship?

[Daphne Springs]

I don't know. I don't. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can Jimmy Butler win you a championship in the next four years? And I love Jimmy Butler. If I'm Jimmy Butler, Me, personally, I want to get my money, right?

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I still want to leave enough on the table so you can bring me some talent into Miami.

[Daphne Springs]

He said some fire shit to me. I was like, yo, be honest, like on some of these team, you bullying these soft guys. He goes, I'm not a bully. I go, what do you mean? He goes, listen, I ask you what you want to do, or you tell me what you want to do, right? He goes, if I go to Phoenix and Devin Booker says, listen, man, I don't want to play no defense. I go, bet. I'm not going to hold you accountable for defense. Go get those buckets. We'll handle defense. But if you tell me you're going to lock down on D. Lock down. And you don't lock down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Daphne Springs]

Now you're a liar, and I'm going to confront you on being a liar. And then if you try to tell me you're not a liar, I'm going to keep reminding you. So it's like his psyche is, like, fascinating also. He don't give a. It's very interesting. He. He truly doesn't care about, like, keeping up with whatever the trend is. Does that make sense?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Daphne Springs]

It's. It's a. Yeah. It's an interesting thing that's happening out there. I think, like, GMs are going to have to work with right now in the league. Like, once players are making $50 million a year, you got no leverage on them. You can't be one of these hard ass, old school Riley GMs that like, punishes you for a few games and suspends you. It's like, my man, I make 50 million a year.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I got 200, but I'm paying you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm holding the purse strings.

[Daphne Springs]

I already got 200 in the bank. Oh, my God. You're gonna take 2 million away from me?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I'm just saying, if I'm making 200, if I can pay you 200, how much are we making? And I'm gonna tell you something about Pal O'Reilly. I'm glad you brought Pal Riley up. Pat Riley must be some type of gangster because nobody ever speaks bad about Pat Riley. Even. Even though, you know it's gotta be some egomaniacal shit. That's what I'm saying.

[Daphne Springs]

They call him a God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pat ran Bron outta town. Yo, Pat. Yo, Pat ran D. Wade out for a second.

[Daphne Springs]

It's not like he runs you outta town. It's Pat Riley has a culture with the Heat, which is nobody's bigger than the team, and LeBron is bigger than any team he's on. So you gotta let LeBron bring his family on a team playing when all the other guys don't have to bring their family on a team playing. You got to let LeBron have 10 hotel rooms in the team hotel when nobody else can have like. And Riley didn't let that shit happen. So Braun went out there, he won his rings, and then he's like, all right, I need to be the king. I'm the king. You. I can't call myself the king when there's someone else acting like the king, telling me what to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That means not really the king, but.

[Daphne Springs]

To Riley's credit, he keeps the law. The problem is, to win a championship, you need kings now. Yeah, you need kings. And the stranglehold that they used to have on these players. Like, the fucked up thing about Riley is that Jimmy will play whatever role you need him to play. He doesn't have an ego about it. There are certain guys that need to go out there, get 35. Yeah, he'll play whatever role as long as the team's winning. If the team is a bunch of Bums. He's going to cause a stink.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's what I mean. But that's my thing. It's like, okay, Jimmy, I know you want the max. I know you want your money. But, Joe, can you let us pay you a certain amount if you want to win? But that's a player decision, right?

[Daphne Springs]

They got to get other guys on the team to make the team win.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but I can't pay you 200 million and then go get other guys.

[Daphne Springs]

I feel like that's your problem. You know what I mean? I don't own a team. Why am I paying the guys?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get it, but I mean, they got salary caps and shit.

[Daphne Springs]

I feel like that's your problem. Why are you, a billionaire, coming to me and crying about money?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've seen, too.

[Daphne Springs]

So you want me to pay the players 10 million each?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've seen too many. That's crazy. I've seen too many elite players make concessions. We've seen Brady make concessions. You know what I'm saying? We saw MJ make concessions because they wanted to win.

[Daphne Springs]

Some people want to win more. Some. Some people want to win so bad that they'll pay the other players on the team. When you ask Brady to take a salary hit, you're asking him to pay the other players on the team. The team ain't paying the players. Brady's paying the players. So when, if you ask Jim, you ask any of these other guys to take a salary hit, there is a billionaire owner who's got all the money in the world coming up to a hundred millionaire and going, guys, I can't afford it, bro. Can you pay the place?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's not like he can't afford it because he can't afford. It's a salary cap. Salary cap. That's what I'm saying.

[Hezekiah Walker]

If you pay the penalty, yeah, you can pay the penalty.

[Daphne Springs]

Pay the penalty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, that's not how it works either.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yes, it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta just pay.

[Daphne Springs]

You gotta pay the luxury tax.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it. I can just pay. I don't know if that's.

[Chris]

Well, I mean, the real question is, does he think Bam is a number two, he can win a champion?

[Daphne Springs]

He doesn't.

[Chris]

Well, there you go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bam is a dog, though.

[Daphne Springs]

I don't know if he does. Don't let me put that out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Bam is a dog. All I'm saying. All I'm saying is, like, to Chris's.

[Daphne Springs]

Point, Bam is nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not like a billionaire just saying, hey, I got all this money, I can't afford to pay.

[Daphne Springs]

They do be saying that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's the salary cap. Yo, why? The Dallas Cowboys ain't won a Super bowl since 1995. And we got the richest franchise in the world.

[Daphne Springs]

I don't know you had an opportunity to ask that question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did. I told that motherfucker, straighten this the fuck out. My daddy has went to jail because of his fucking franchise. He didn't say that at all, did Jerry? Jerry hit me. Yo, I saw Jerry video.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Didn't look like he was talking like that.

[Daphne Springs]

He said this.

[Hezekiah Walker]

He said he was being very happy.

[Daphne Springs]

Jerry, can you sign my chest? Remember when you asked him to sign your Did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you see the shit that Jerry told the team? Jerry was like. He said, there's happiness and then there's glory holes. What? You didn't see this shit? Pull that shit up.

[Daphne Springs]

Nah, you crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, Jerry just getting old. He just quoting shit that he can remember from the Lone Ranger when he was fucking 8. Cause he said the same shit to be we Ziggy. Shit is that he just hit the. He hit the reporters with some shit like Google. Jerry Jones, Glory holes.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yo, that's gonna be a wild search.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's gonna be him and Michael Irvin with a bunch of fucking young blondes.

[Daphne Springs]

At the White House. Shout out, Irvin the Goat. The Goat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Play this shit. There's a low percentage of this. Let me read the headline. Look. Scroll up, Taylor. There's a low percentage of this. That is smiles and glory holes. Play this shit, man. Very low percentage of this. That is smiles and glory holes. Very low percentage. The fuck is he even talking about? That's what he hit me with in St. Barts.

[Hezekiah Walker]

That's kind of funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said we zig when we should have zagged, but we gonna zog. What?

[Hezekiah Walker]

How do you feel about the new head coach?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, please. It's some bullshit. Nobody. Who gives a fuck. He was offensive coordinator for four years. Yeah, it's like Scott Harmer's son. He's never had a head coaching job, ever.

[Daphne Springs]

They need to hire her. Why don't they hire her?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We need some help on the offensive line.

[Daphne Springs]

I'm saying. I'm saying, though, who's getting around her?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's Big Dank. Let's talk about Big Dank, man.

[Daphne Springs]

No. You were gonna say what? Fuck. What was it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just pardoning, man. I don't give a fuck.

[Daphne Springs]

No Diddy. It was Diddy. It was Diddy. The video. The Diddy audio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. Speaking of glory holes, man, pull up Diddy's voice memos from that documentary. Taylor, I'm gonna be honest with you. Diddy is the horniest man to ever live.

[Daphne Springs]

Hornier than Chris.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think Chris ain't that horny? None of us are that horny, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, facts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not that horny. I'm just not. I like sex, but I'm not. That is a different level of horny. Like, he needs to have his dick in somebody's glory hole, and he don't care what type of glory hole it is.

[Daphne Springs]

I need to just. I haven't heard the audio, so let me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If bowling balls could probably talk, they would tell us some stories about him. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, man. You could just tell. Play the voice memo. Taylor, where is it?

[Daphne Springs]

She got mom. She got mom brain, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Play the damn Breakfast Club.

[Daphne Springs]

You know when women get pregnant, they lose brain cells, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think she's pregnant?

[Daphne Springs]

She's pregnant and she's losing brain cells.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just don't. I'm just. Man, yo, man, we had day 26 on too, man. I just don't understand why it's so hard to do right by people.

[Daphne Springs]

Wait, what do you mean, day 26?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Day 26 is the group that used to be signed to Bad Boy. Remember Bad Boy? We sleep on the band era. The band era is.

[Hezekiah Walker]

That first album was a classic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Day 26.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, okay.

[Daphne Springs]

What was day 26?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They were making the band. Remember they did Making the band. Making the band had three artists that took off three groups. Dylon, that was the band. That was the rap group. Then they had Danny Kane.

[Daphne Springs]

Danny Kane, I remember.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then they had day 26. Day 26 was the. Guys, you don't remember when Diddy had. There was a scene where they were singing they heart out. I mean, singing like, oh, shit. And Diddy goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, like that. But you gotta get naked.

[Hezekiah Walker]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not making it. Ted Taylor pulling something. If he stand for another. What? Stop it.

[Hezekiah Walker]

He said that during making the band.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

During making the band on the show.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yo, he was just in our face with it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, fuck. Nah. We just come from an era. I'm gonna be honest with you. We just come from a great era, guys. We lived through it. Now we look back on it like, damn, what the fuck were we thinking? But back to. It was good. So, like, that tone, that when it. When it wasn't perfect, but it was naked, you know, I'm not saying to do all your joints like that, but when it's real, it don't really matter. I rather get the emotion. So y' all gotta get naked. You know what I'm saying? Y' all gotta get naked.

[Daphne Springs]

You gotta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where I come from, imagine doing the best standup of your life. I mean, you just left it all on the stage, and then the producer turns to you and goes, yeah, yeah, that was cool, but you gotta get naked. He was right in our face. Damn.

[Daphne Springs]

This whole time, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Daphne Springs]

What are these voice memos about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Play the.

[Daphne Springs]

But what are they about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We'll play it in a second. What do you think about culture, Schultz? When you think. When you hear the word culture, what do you think?

[Daphne Springs]

Well, it depends who's saying it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you think that.

[Daphne Springs]

What's the color of the skin of the person saying it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a great question.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you talk culture, just like, this is. I'm talking like, there's. I think that the person talking to me is saying that everybody has cultures, right?

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know if that's the case. I think that we all have lived experiences, and then certain. There's certain groups of us that have cultures. Like, for example, I'm a black person in America, right? And I have, you know, shared lived experiences with other black people. But my culture that I grew up in, in Charleston, South Carolina, Moss Corner, is different than the culture that somebody grew up in in New Orleans.

[Daphne Springs]

Ooh, now you're talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's different than somebody grew up in Atlanta. It's different than somebody that grew up in Detroit. It's different than somebody that grew up in Chicago. Like, and I think it's New York. New York. Got a culture to it.

[Daphne Springs]

Keep going, keep going. You're spitting right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's what I'm saying. I think we all. I think there's a difference between lived experiences and the shared lived experiences you may have with people and the actual culture.

[Daphne Springs]

I always find it a little racist when people act like there's black culture. Like, black culture exists in America as one monolith. Monolith. No, I was. And the reason why I find it racist is because if it's coming from black people, it's a little different. Like, obviously, there's like, a shared oppression, and there's just shared history.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lived, experienced.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, when it comes from non black people, it's often, like, what the stereotypes of black people are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I just. I literally just told the person. The only people who say things like that are white people and black people who don't have a Culture, like you might come from a city that isn't known.

[Daphne Springs]

It's not just white people, it's like other races or other cultures. What they think of black people in America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So those are stereotypes and a lot of profiles.

[Daphne Springs]

Exactly. And like there are like stereotypes. Stereotypes in culture is a Venn diagram. Right. Like they connect to one another, but there's that little pocket where they overlap. But they're also just different things, you know what I mean? I would even say it's like a circle. Like stereotypes exist within the circle. Right. And there's a little circle of stereotypes. But like the culture is a more broad thing. But yeah, your culture is defined by like the people around you. Right. So in Monck of South Carolina, what is it? The Geechee.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's the low country. Low country, yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

So it's like that's going to have influence the language, the accent, all these things. That's culture. Like California surfer culture in like San Diego or San Clemente is its own.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Unique thing that is, you know, Mexican culture in California.

[Daphne Springs]

Like the most slept on culture, cultural influence in America in like in rap, in fashion, I think is like the Chicano Mexican influence on the West Coast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you said Chicano. Yeah, so there's. I'm saying there's subcultures within even that. Yeah, within the Mexico.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, but. But yeah, go out.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Isn't a bunch of like.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, I'm sorry, real quick. So like New York culture. So there's like a crossover even like as a white kid growing up in New York obviously is different than growing up Puerto Rican or growing up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Daphne Springs]

But there's a shared New York culture that we all have. And then that goes in a certain direction if you're Italian, a certain direction if you're Puerto Rican, a certain direction if you're black. But there's a shared pool of slang words that we kind of use. And then when you go Puerto Rican, all of a sudden there's a few more to Spanish slang words that exist. Right. There you go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Daphne Springs]

Black. There's a few more. Like more black slang. Like you go Italian, there's a few more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But those are all scared. Those are all different subcultures within large New York culture. That's why New York culture can be so easily spoofed.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're not spoofing the subcultures, they're spoofing the New York culture.

[Daphne Springs]

It's basically the stereotypes. That's when they attack.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're absolutely right.

[Hezekiah Walker]

But if you add up A bunch of, like, those lived experiences or just things that we kind of do in common. Isn't that what, like, put together? That's what makes a culture. I don't think hip hop is black culture. We started it, we identify with it. It's one of the things that we claim when people try to take it away.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think hip hop is a culture. I think hip hop is. I think hip hop is the genre of music that we created. And I think within that genre of music, there is different cultures of hip hop. For example, the culture of New York, hip hop wasn't the same as the culture of down south hip hop. The culture of down south hip hop wasn't the same as the culture as west coast hip hop.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, but you still keep saying hip hop. And hip hop is a black thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a black art form, but it's a genre. Yeah, art form, a genre of music.

[Daphne Springs]

I mean, that's what compiles culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't even say that the music.

[Hezekiah Walker]

The food, the dress. But it's all those things together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's different in all of these different places. You can look at a West coast guy and say, oh, I know where he from. You could look at a Down south guy and go, oh, I know where he from. You can look at a New York guy and guy. That's why the Tim's. Tim's was a New York.

[Daphne Springs]

What's the music? It's a very unique situation because the black experience in America, obviously because of slavery and then the years after slavery, has positioned black people with cultural unity despite not having cultural similarity.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, like, I think those are lived experiences. I think share. Those are shared experiences.

[Daphne Springs]

What I'm trying to say is, like, all black people in America experience similar oppression throughout these years that we're talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Daphne Springs]

So they could go, oh, you know what it's like. Like to be like me. But shared oppression doesn't define culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Daphne Springs]

Culture is also food. Culture is language. Culture is music. Culture is dance. Right. So to say hip hop is black culture. Hip hop is a genre of music that white people have done that, Asians have done that. You know, Indians do like, that is predominantly black. And then within America, the West coast is different sound. Everything is different.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Different sound, different look, different food.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I feel like you could say that about anything. Like, reggaeton is Spanish culture music. But there's been hip hop guys who've tried it. There's been white people who've tried it.

[Daphne Springs]

Like, but it's specifically Caribbean. Spanish.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, but then Caribbean. That's an area. But there's so many different subcultures within the Caribbean. But there's a lot of common things that hold the Caribbean.

[Daphne Springs]

I feel like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the Caribbean is a region.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, I feel like there's more similarity, like, there's more parity in the Caribbean between, like, Puerto Rican and Dominican culture, food, language, than there is between New York and California. Like, those shared experiences are just not the same at all. We're talking about 3,000 miles.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dominicans and Puerto Ricans get pissed off when you say that, though. Dominicans get pissed off, and you can mistake them for Puerto Rican.

[Daphne Springs]

All right. Next time you get pissed off, don't go to the Dominican restaurant. I bet you will.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not going to.

[Daphne Springs]

No, not you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm saying.

[Daphne Springs]

I'm saying if Puerto Ricans are upset, then why are you going to a Dominican restaurant?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I'm just. Yeah, I'm just.

[Daphne Springs]

I'm not saying that you're not distinct. What I'm saying is there's enough similarity where you guys can have unity within your culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's kind of hot for them right now. You know what I'm saying? Why? Why?

[Daphne Springs]

Because of the garbage thing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because of ice, you know, and they can't tell the difference.

[Daphne Springs]

Dominicans. Yeah, Dominicans. About to be Puerto Rico.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying.

[Daphne Springs]

Dominican, Puerto Rico.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it's a little hot. You got the Diddy shit, Taylor. Listen to these voice memos.

[Daphne Springs]

Well, real quick, before the Diddy thing, it is an interesting. Who brought this up? I love these.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, this was Nyla. Me and Nyla was having this. Me and Nyla been having this debate for a while because, you know, we just been having. I just think it's a difference between shared lived experiences and culture. That's just. It's not the same to me. Shared lived experiences and culture. What your culture is, is two completely different things. Yes, I have shared lived experiences with a lot of black people, but black people in Charleston, South Carolina, aren't the same as black people in Atlanta. Black people in Atlanta aren't the same as black people in Detroit, and black people in Detroit aren't the same as black people in the States.

[Daphne Springs]

Why do we look at them? And also, it'd be cool if we get to a point where we stop defining black people through their oppression, because I feel like that is the definition of them in America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, I feel the same way about white people.

[Daphne Springs]

Like, are they oppressing? Like, are we defining.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I'm just talking about in general. As. As the. As a. Like, there's. There's different cultures within white American culture.

[Daphne Springs]

Of course. Like, Italians are one way right here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Daphne Springs]

The Irish are redneck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all look down on the rednecks.

[Daphne Springs]

Rednecks. Then you got. Yeah. Like, you got that Montana shit where it's like redneck, but it's also.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God, that's that Yellowstone shit.

[Daphne Springs]

Yellowstone, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's all different. Like, you couldn't. You'll lose your. You probably enjoy it because you like different things, but you lose your mind in South Dakota, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

You want to know what's, like, sometimes uncomfortable environments for me? Like, rich Northeast WASP culture that's like these, I think. And Chris, you probably know a lot about this, but this is like the last remnants of, like, the British colonial.

[Chris]

Well, I mean, most specifically, it's descendants of the Mayflower.

[Daphne Springs]

Interesting.

[Chris]

Literally, the Pilgrims. If you see names, like, good enough names that have Massachusetts names that have enough in the last name, that means those people can trace directly back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good enough. Jesus Christ.

[Daphne Springs]

But the WASP culture that we talk about, right? Like this kind of Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket, Cape Cod, preppy, pretentious, preppy trust fund kids. Nepo babies born on third base. Think they hit a triple. Like, know how to use your fucking fork and spoon perfectly. Laugh at you if you don't. Like, they are white. They look like me. They might have the exact same haircut as me. They live a few miles up north or they even live on the Upper east side. But I feel a distinct cultural separation from them. I. Yet. Yet people would probably look at us in the exact same way. And there's a perfect example of culture. Culture isn't. Culture can be defined by race, especially in America, because of those shared experiences you're talking about. But if we really want to be nuanced, like you and a Somali person that lives in Minnesota are both black, that Somali culture is synonymous with the Geechee culture in South Carolina.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Totally different. I can. I can go in New York. I can go from Little Italy and hang out with my guy over there. Then I can go to the city Jewish neighborhood. And it's literally totally different cultures and experiences.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I think if you take a black American and they go overseas, people look at that person as a black American. So the fact that they can be identified as a black American means there must be something that gives that person culture, that they can be identified as a black American.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, just my nationality.

[Hezekiah Walker]

No, but it's not.

[Daphne Springs]

I hear what he's saying they have an idea of what a black American is through stereotypes. Through stereotypes. Yes.

[Hezekiah Walker]

But you said the Venn diagram something.

[Daphne Springs]

And then so if a black American goes there and matches with enough of those stereotypes, then it makes sense for those people. Right, I, I get it, but that doesn't mean that that person shares the identical culture to like a Haitian dude that grew up in Florida is going to have a completely different culture from a black group that grew up in, in Seattle, Washington.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Okay.

[Daphne Springs]

Completely different.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Like black people all give depth.

[Daphne Springs]

Say again?

[Hezekiah Walker]

We all give debt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody gives that.

[Hezekiah Walker]

No, white people don't give that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Adaptive shows today.

[Hezekiah Walker]

That's because y' all give them pounds. Pounds is not that. You know, it's different. That's why Obama walks around. Handshake, handshake, handshake, black guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is culture. No, no, no.

[Daphne Springs]

He's. I think that there is like an umbrella culture. You know what I mean? Like there's a black umbrella culture in America. There's probably like a white umbrella culture in America. Like, for example, like white people in America probably think about not being racist. Like that's part of the umbrella of it. Like it's on their minds.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When was the last time you thought about not being racist? Say again? When's the last time you thought about not being racist?

[Daphne Springs]

I'm not white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a meme on fucking Instagram that's so funny. There's a meme on Instagram of a black guy typing real fast and it says Andrew Schultz researching different cultures so he can have the sharpest racist jokes to be racist. Racism more official.

[Daphne Springs]

That's flagrant memes. Yo, shout out our boy. Flagrant memes, bro. But facts, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta know.

[Daphne Springs]

You want to make fun of people, you better know something about man. Because if you just make fun of the low hanging fruit stereotypes, then like, first of all they're not going to think it's funny and then they're just going to feel like, insulted. But if you, if you actually make an effort to learn about them, they feel honored by it. Like they're like, wow, this person actually cares. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's fun. That's when it's actually funny.

[Daphne Springs]

Like if I'm in South Carolina and I have like a, like a deep cut Geechee joke, it might not even hit for white people, but the black people in there that are like familiar with it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kill. You kill. Let's do some gay culture, Taylor.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, give us some gay culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Play Diddy.

[Daphne Springs]

Play them voice memos.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is Diddy's. Voice memos from this discovery ID doc. This proves that Diddy is the most horniest man in America. Let's hear it.

[Daphne Springs]

Phil, can you come back upstairs?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, talking about me saying he's talking to his assistant. Okay, so his assistant played the voice memos from the documentary. In the documentary.

[Daphne Springs]

Phil, can you come back upstairs to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Help me set up the red light? I would get a lot of voice notes from Diddy.

[Daphne Springs]

How often?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Daily. Phil, I need some cialis. Give me 20 Xanax, please. Hey, Phil, I need a plan b. I need 10 out of all the mushroom capsules, the microdose. Bring that out to me, please. High and horny.

[Daphne Springs]

Just constant.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just high and horny. Can you imagine being in a constant state of highness and horniness?

[Hezekiah Walker]

That's not fair, actually.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're a Scorpio, right?

[Daphne Springs]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

October 30th. He's a November Scorpio. There's a difference.

[Daphne Springs]

What is the difference?

[Andrew Schulz]

November Scorpios are different.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think you got one. No, baby daddy. November Scorpio.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, he's not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay.

[Daphne Springs]

When's that baby coming out?

[Andrew Schulz]

In July. All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

June 29th.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, it's July.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said June 29th. He's going to be a cancer. What date? What's the due date?

[Andrew Schulz]

July 12th.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, shit. Nah, you gonna have at the end of June. Yo, if you are actually pregnant, you're gonna have at the end of June.

[Daphne Springs]

July 4th. Independence Day. For America. That'd be fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Either way, it's still.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why you say it's not fair that he's so high and horny? Nah.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Cause like, Diddy's like known for parties and stuff like that. And usually when you're the host, you.

[Daphne Springs]

Wanna have some party favors or something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all ain't hear what he said. Play that shit. If you. Let's chat. Do this shit like a grocery list. You ain't hearing some of the things that he requested.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, but if you take every single voice note, chop it up for every time you ask him for something that's going to sound crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look what he's asking for. I never. Hey, I've never asked for some of these things in my life. Play it. Phil, can you come back upstairs to help me set up the red light? I would get a lot of voice notes from Diddy.

[Daphne Springs]

How often?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Daily. Phil, I need some Calis. Nothing C. Go play it again. Phil, I need some calis. Give me 20 Zen. Hey, Phil, I need a plan b. I need 10 out of all the micro dose. Bring that out to me, please.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm Tamika, dma.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Plan B. The only one. Plan B is the only thing.

[Daphne Springs]

Technically, you haven't even done that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why?

[Daphne Springs]

Well, you didn't take it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I didn't take it, exactly.

[Daphne Springs]

So you haven't done any of that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But this is just disgusting. It's not disgusting. I'm just fascinated by how horny and high he was all the time. It proves my theory that it was drugs, that he was trying to escape something. He's constantly trying to escape something, and his escape is drugs, alcohol, and sex.

[Daphne Springs]

What do you think he was trying to escape?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just life, man. I mean, just look at this. Look at all of the stuff he's got. I mean, just. Even the stuff that we just know, like this. I mean, a constant state of grief. Yeah, this guy's lost everybody. Damn near that was close to him. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you think about it, like, people that he actually came up with, like his father and, you know, the biggies of the world and his old security wolf and, you know, Andre Harrell and Kim Porter and, you know, all of these heavy D, all these. It's a lot of grief that surrounds him. Not making excuses. I'm just saying, you know, he's trying to escape. I think he's constantly trying to escape. And I. You know, I always think about. But I can say this because somebody actually recorded it, and it was out. It was the first Revolt music conference. And me and Andre Harrell, God bless the dead, we went into the trailer that Diddy was in, and I think this was right after Kim Porter had passed. God bless the dead. And he was just sitting there, and he just was like, yeah, man. He was just like, man, I really appreciate all the conversations you be having around mental health, man. He said, man, I realize I've never been happy. Wow. That's what he said. I realized. He said, I can't. I can't think of the last time I've been happy. And this was what, the first Revolt music conference. So I don't. This was like 20. I don't know, 19, 18, 17. I don't freaking remember.

[Andrew Schulz]

Did you want to hear the other ones?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What other ones?

[Andrew Schulz]

The other audios of just the assistant talking to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I'm all down. Let's play some more. Let's play some more. What else you got?

[Hezekiah Walker]

That's crazy. Somebody like Diddy doesn't have his assistant under NDA, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

NDAs don't mean shit. NDAs mean as much as the Constitution.

[Daphne Springs]

Were the Wild King nights happening at.

[Andrew Schulz]

These big star studded events.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think there's a difference and a disparity between what people think they were.

[Daphne Springs]

Meaning that there was hundreds of people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Engaging in these activities. That wasn't my experience.

[Andrew Schulz]

How many people would typically be there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a small batch of people.

[Daphne Springs]

What would he require for a Wild King night?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We usually had a laundry list of items that included lights, alcohol, marijuana, ketamine, Molly, Baby oil and Astroglide were very important. Candles, incense, Apple TVs, electronics, computers, iPads, you know, male libido supplements, stuff like that. Those requests started to become more frequent. They started to occur on a daily basis. Y' all don't listen to words. This man said, baby. Out of everything he named. He said baby oil and Astroglide were very important. God damn. Very important.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was making people walk to Brooklyn for cheeks, man. You know what I'm saying? He was making you walk to Brooklyn for cheeks.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn. Yo. The horniest, highest man alive.

[Andrew Schulz]

I wonder who introduced him to it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Introduced him to what? Horniness?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, just, like, wanting the pills to, like, why can't he have regular sex?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, like a vampire. You know what I'm saying, Triple H? Who turned him into the sucking vampire that he became, Allegedly who? Is that what you're saying?

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, we gotta kill that guy. We gotta kill that guy. You kill him, you knock out all the Diddy disciples.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn.

[Andrew Schulz]

Did he know his dad?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, his dad died that got killed when he was young. I don't know, man. Yeah, watch the 15th Diddy documentary that's available online. You got the one where he said his studio session. You got that one? This shit is crazy. The shower shit. We got one for sure. This is the. This is what an artist said Diddy used to require. Yeah. Play this one. You got that one?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We were at Puffy's Los Angeles house working in the studio. He says, I want to work in my bathroom. Everybody bring everything. So we break down the studio, get the instruments and go to his bathroom as usual. And he strips himself in front of us and jumps right into the shower. But he's looking directly at me, you know what I mean? I found myself getting a pat on my butt. Felt uncomfortable and still feels uncomfortable. Why y' all laughing at his face?

[Daphne Springs]

Cause he said, I found myself getting a pat on the butt. What you mean you found yourself, son? Where. Where were you lost? Like, I. What do you mean, I found myself?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know where my butt was till somebody patted him.

[Daphne Springs]

I didn't know where my butt was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Till somebody patted on him. I go, there it goes. That's my butt. You know what I'm saying?

[Daphne Springs]

You found it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You found it. Here's the thing, man. I'm not mature. I can. Honestly, I'm not mature enough for this, because all I can. That's a lot of comedy in this, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

That's a great take, yo. That's a great take. That's fire, yo. I'm not mature.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not mature enough.

[Daphne Springs]

So if you tell me anything about it, keep that in mind. I'm not gonna have the maturity to handle it. It's your fault for even asking me about it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Cause. Because it's a boy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Yeah, it is true. Nobody takes it serious when it's us, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

He took it serious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Especially when it's an adult. If you're a grown man, if you talking about some kids, all right, we like, okay, all right, you wilding. But if it's like, two male adults.

[Daphne Springs]

Bro, if somebody found your ass for you in the shower, we gonna laugh at that a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Jess, hilarious this morning said, why didn't they just walk off instead of walking to Brooklyn for cheeks? Why didn't they just walk off? Yeah, it ain't the easiest thing to do once you get penetrated.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, once you get penetrated, you're there for life. Bad boy for life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? They ain't the easiest walk. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's not the easiest walk.

[Daphne Springs]

Listen, listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Women have been telling the lie for years that you know, a man. You know, a man did it so good to me. He tore it up so much that I couldn't walk. No, that's never happened. Y' all have babies now. A man taking it up the ass.

[Daphne Springs]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a hard place. You ain't gonna just get up.

[Daphne Springs]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ain't just getting up after that. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Hezekiah Walker]

You ain't sitting down either.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't care how much Astro Glide you use.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ain't just getting up and just walking that off.

[Daphne Springs]

Nah, you gotta lay in your stomach.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just gotta lay in your stomach and it might happen again.

[Daphne Springs]

Nah, you gotta let me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Laying on your stomach. That's how it started, shorty.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, but you gotta, though. That's the only situation. Fuck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

So he was. He was butt fucking all the people that work for him. Is that the idea? Is that the idea? It's not funny, guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not funny.

[Daphne Springs]

Imagine you got your dream job.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, it is working for.

[Daphne Springs]

For Sean. What is it? What was the. Sean John.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

John. Sean John.

[Daphne Springs]

You work for Sean John. You're designing clothes, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me ask you a question. What are the origins.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Of the word funny in reference to gay people? Because that was the word that they used to use for gay people. We don't use it as much anymore, but back in the day, like, oh, he funny. Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, you're a little funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why?

[Daphne Springs]

Well, because. No, when a guy fucks another guy's ass, it's funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's hilarious.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's hilarious.

[Daphne Springs]

No, that's hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Daphne Springs]

That's hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why it's funny.

[Daphne Springs]

Funny. I don't know how they don't laugh. I don't know how they. Not in there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like. No, the bottom to the bottom. You better laugh to keep from crying. Okay. More Astro Glide.

[Daphne Springs]

You know, but if you're a top, how you not be like, yo, pause.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is funny as.

[Daphne Springs]

Hey, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's true. Hey, yo.

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, you gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, so. So you doing the bending?

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, this guy's.

[Andrew Schulz]

I have a story.

[Daphne Springs]

God's hilarious.

[Andrew Schulz]

I have a story to tell you, but I'm not gonna say it on here.

[Daphne Springs]

What do you mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't do that.

[Daphne Springs]

Gotta say it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's.

[Andrew Schulz]

No. Is this funny? Like a gay guy. He was telling me how he felt a type of way. That girl was like, basically harassed him. Like, she took his dick out and sucked it. And he felt violated. Like, he's like. And now I know how girls feel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because, like, yeah, that's silly. The fuck bringing her up on charges right now. Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

Nah. There's a woman walking around sucking gay cocks like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Without consent.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, he was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We should need to get off the streets right now.

[Daphne Springs]

Who the fuck is this girl, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You should do your.

[Daphne Springs]

I sure hope that neither of us get by her. I sure hope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Definitely call her.

[Daphne Springs]

I sure hope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm 100% sure.

[Daphne Springs]

Hope she doesn't walk up to any guy in this room, just pull the dick out against our will and swap all the come out of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have the guy ever done that? Like, got caught cheating by his girl?

[Daphne Springs]

I had a joke about that shit. Fuck. It was some girl. Yeah. My girl caught me cheating. She walked in the room, I said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Please help me get her off of me. She told me. She told me if I take it out of her mouth, she'll bite It. I'm serious, man. Okay, enough.

[Daphne Springs]

For real, though. For real, though. We need to find out who that girl is and just make sure she does not do that to anybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop.

[Daphne Springs]

No, for real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you walking around here laughing. Taylor.

[Daphne Springs]

Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, what? You said it's funny. I'll tell y' all something, but it's funny. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I didn't. I'm not gonna say it on here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's funny when it happens to gay guys.

[Andrew Schulz]

I didn't say that.

[Daphne Springs]

But when a girl walks up to guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are the origins of the word Taylor? Ask ChatGPT. What? Why did gay people get referred to as funny? I got chatgpt right here. Hold on, hold on. Why did it. Why? Okay. Why did gay people used to be called funny? The term funny as a euphemism for being gay likely comes from a time when direct discussions about homosexuality were avoided. Especially in more conservative or repressive societies, people often use coded or ambiguous language to refer to things considered taboo or socially insensitive. Funny can mean unusual or different. Since LGBTQ identifies were historically marginalized, people might have used funny as a subtle way to acknowledge someone's non hetero behavior without being direct. Oh, okay. This is a good association with humor. LGBTQ individuals, especially in entertainment and theater, have historically been associated with wit, flamboyance, and humor. This may have reinforced the link between funny and being different or expressive in a way that deviated from traditional gender and sexual norms are a code with the community. Just as other euphemisms like confirmed bachelor or lighten the loafers were used, funny were used. Funny may have been an informal or coded way for people to talk about gay individuals, particularly in times when homosexuality was criminalized and heavily stigmatized. Now, that's fucked up.

[Daphne Springs]

That is fucked up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a lot of gay comics. Then why? Because there's probably a lot of gay comics in that era who gay men used to be like, yo, he's so funny. No, he's funny. Like, make your stomach hurt funny. Like, I laughed my ass off funny. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's probably what the fuck it was.

[Daphne Springs]

I'll be honest. I don't know what's going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because you a funny comedian. That's okay. Gay means happy. Yeah. And if the youth. Funny, funny.

[Daphne Springs]

I'll be honest. I don't know, man. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You want to do some. All memes matter. You want to pay some bills? What?

[Daphne Springs]

No. We could do a little. All memes matter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, let's Start with pay bills first. Oh, damn.

[Daphne Springs]

Damn good. We not your kid. Fucking tell us what to do.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it was a long segment already.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Daphne Springs]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Daphne Springs]

Favorites are ready at Starbucks with a Venmo debit card. You can Venmo more than just your friends. You can use your balance in so many ways. You can Venmo everything. Need gas?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can Venmo this.

[Daphne Springs]

How about snacks? You can Venmo that. Your favorite band's merch? You can Venmo this or their next show? You can Venmo that. Visit Venmo Me debit to learn more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can Venmo this or you can Venmo that. You can Venmo this or you can Vemo.

[Daphne Springs]

The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bancorp bank and a pursuant to license.

[Daphne Springs]

My Mastercard International Incorporated card may be used everywhere.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Daphne Springs]

And Tic Tac Orange is the perfect.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mix of tangy and sweet. Visit us at tiktacusa on Social to refresh your summer with TikTok. Church announcements Hezdi what we got?

[Daphne Springs]

I got nothing right now, man. I got nothing right here.

[Andrew Schulz]

You do have a church announcement.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I keep a lot.

[Andrew Schulz]

He was really.

[Daphne Springs]

I'm forgetting.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes, I'm forgetting all the brains.

[Daphne Springs]

Women, brains, they actually change while they're pregnant.

[Andrew Schulz]

You said you had. You were thinking about me a lot this weekend.

[Daphne Springs]

I absolutely was thinking about you a lot this weekend.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why?

[Daphne Springs]

Well, because I'm just really excited for you. I texted you.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know you did, but unlike Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe it. I did get her a little card, though. I got her a card. I was at.

[Andrew Schulz]

What does the car say though?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was at Green Light Bookstore. I had a. We had a book signing for Anita Kopax, the Wind on her Tongue Book 2 of the Daughters of Three Water trilogy, which is available now. We had a book signing for her, and there was an amazing card that had Rihanna on the front. It was Rihanna when she was pregnant and she had her belly out and it said, I'm riri happy for you. And when I opened it and I signed it on the inside, what did I say? I forgot. I still don't believe it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'll believe it. I'll just go along with it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe you, but I'll go along with it. Congratulations. That's why I ain't put no money in the card. None of that. Okay? None of that. Okay. It's got you a little card. And the jury is still out. I think she's pregnant. Why do you think this? Cause she's saying, why?

[Andrew Schulz]

Wait, Charlamagne. As long as you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Daphne said she was pregnant, too. Daphne said she was pregnant? I'm not gonna tell anything about that. Daphne, you said she was pregnant, too.

[Andrew Schulz]

When have I ever lied about that, ever?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You've never been pregnant.

[Andrew Schulz]

But I'm just saying, though, like, when have I ever joked or anything about that?

[Daphne Springs]

How are you dealing with your pregnancy? How was the reaction online?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, everyone was saying congratulations.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

The support.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah. Some good positive reinforcement.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes, good. They loved your reaction, though.

[Daphne Springs]

What was my reaction?

[Andrew Schulz]

You're just. You just were generally happy, that's all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna be genuinely happy, too, once we find out that this is real.

[Daphne Springs]

I told you what I was saying in the. Okay, I told you what I was saying in the. But in the text, it's just, like, the most amazing thing that will ever happen to you, and there's no way to describe it, and it just makes every aspect of your life better. And it's also the hardest thing you're ever gonna do, but it's like, you just look at them and it's the coolest thing you've ever seen in your life every single day.

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, I feel the way when I. I guess now, because I'm having one now, but when I see my nieces and nephew and stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not the same. Oh, dude, I'm sure you're gonna look at your nieces and stuff like dogs.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, Literally.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Seriously, you know how people be like, yo, my pets are my babies. Yeah, you always. Everybody said that to lady babies. Then you, like, you're not gonna just let your baby go outside to piss.

[Daphne Springs]

This is so embarrassing. But, like, last night, now you know how, like, Instagram tells your friends what you like?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hate that.

[Daphne Springs]

So last night, I don't know, I was, like, a little emotional or something like that, and I just. Instagram caught me on a nice little rabbit hole, and it was just like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

After you watch the meatball in peace.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, it's right after I did. No, they called me a nice little rabbit hole of, like, dads doing really dope shit or being really thoughtful or, you know, when, like, a beautiful moment, you know, with a father and her kid or something like that, and I was sitting on the toilet just bawling my eyes off. It was. And then the next morning, I get a text to the group chat, and it's like, yo, this new Instagram feature that shows your friends what you like is really telling about what the. What you guys. What content you guys enjoy online.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I didn't know that.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, be careful what you like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How do we do it? Look up my. I don't like shit, so. I don't ever like shit, ever.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, man. I had.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anything you've ever seen me, like, has been on accident and I catch myself because I want to like that fraggle, maggot and peas video. Like, the American algorithm might take us down a rabbit hole that we're not ready for. Wait a minute. That's not rabbit. I know a rabbit hole when I smell one. This ain't a rabbit hole.

[Daphne Springs]

Tell about her book. Yo, tell us about the book.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tameka Mallory, I Live to Tell the Story. A Memoir of Love, Legacy and Resilience. It'll be out February 11th. Bookstores everywhere. This is her second book, but Anita Kopak's the Win on Her Tongue is out right now. You know what's crazy? This year makes five years of my book in print. Black Privilege Publishing.

[Daphne Springs]

Bravo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Five years ago, we started off the exact same way, but we started off with Tameka Mallory, State of Emergency first, and then Anita Kopax, Shallow Water second. This year, we started off with Anita Kopaks that went On Her Tongue first, and then we doing I Live to Tell the Story, Tamika Mallory second. And we have an incredible.

[Daphne Springs]

You lied, by the way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Daphne Springs]

I lied about the Wind on Her Tongue, the title, and what it really means.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did I say? I told you what the book is about.

[Daphne Springs]

What is. Whatever. I'm not gonna do this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? It is book two of the Daughter of Three Waters trilogy.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, but it's about a girl going down another girl, and she queens.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, my God.

[Daphne Springs]

Okay, listen, that is. That is the title of the book, and I feel like for you to gaslight me and make me think that I'm saying something is not true, I feel like it's unfair the way do we go Also, you know, the greatest promo for a book is when I just start talking about it and how it's never going to come out for Two years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anita Kopax. The wind on her tongue is out right now.

[Daphne Springs]

What was the other one that you were promoting for, like, two years? That was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was Tamika Mallory. It was state of emergency. Hottest one in the country.

[Daphne Springs]

No, it was the other one. It was the one about the. The mermaid or some. Something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shallow Water.

[Daphne Springs]

Shallow waters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And this is part two of Shallow Waters.

[Daphne Springs]

Jokes about shallow waters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I gotta.

[Daphne Springs]

That's some good jokes about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're about to announce another one this week. I can't say it right now, but we announcing another one this week.

[Daphne Springs]

No, it won't be deep waters. That's it for sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, this ain't deep waters. It's just interesting.

[Daphne Springs]

Said. Oh, we never told the story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What story?

[Daphne Springs]

But we're in St. Barts, and I finally got to see if he could breathe underwater or not. The second we're in the ocean, he dives in the ocean. He's trying to show off his little swimming. You know what I mean? Like, you know. No, no. He was trying to show off, like, you know how, like, when you're on a court and you're not, like, jumping and dunking, but you trying to do some crossovers to let everybody know that you could hoop? Like, that was him. Like, he was representing Fox.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You go to the first of all. Yes, first of all. Well, no, not really, but first of all, being that there was a lot of white people out there, I had to represent. They said, we can't swim.

[Daphne Springs]

Nah. He went out there. He's like, I just want all y' all to know what you thought is wrong.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Daphne Springs]

He was out there swimming. He was out there swimming. The man was swimming. Ok? So we go, yo, so now's the time to prove it. You say you could breathe underwater. Go for it. And Charlamagne goes, no problem. Goes underwater for about 20 seconds.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not true. That's not true.

[Daphne Springs]

Comes up and he goes, see?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was down there.

[Daphne Springs]

I go, what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got bored. He goes, I could have stayed down there, but I got bored.

[Daphne Springs]

He goes, see? And we're like, what do you mean, see? He goes, ain't no way anybody could be down there that long if they weren't breathing down the water.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And here comes Dove.

[Daphne Springs]

And then here goes Dove.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dove was underneath that water for at least four minutes, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, but he was like this. And his nose was like something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no. This is the funniest shit. Dove was under there for a long time to the park. I was like, yo, where Dove at? Shows was like underwater. I said, damn, he been under there for a long time. And Shows was like, he's breathing through his asshole. Joe said Dove was breathing through his ass. And so I'm like, yes, try it. Have you ever tried to breathe underwater?

[Hezekiah Walker]

No.

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my point.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why would you try to breathe?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who says we can't do it? You've never tried?

[Andrew Schulz]

Our biology does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Try it.

[Daphne Springs]

That's a good point. The biology does say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a fantastic point. Just try it.

[Daphne Springs]

People have tried it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, they haven't.

[Daphne Springs]

Yes, they have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Panic. And I've choked drinking water.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you ain't got no gag reflex. I thought you haven't moved up in this business enough. That's exactly why you'd have seven WTF studios if you had a cat. Yo, for real, you only got two. Stop with the hand jobs in the little and get the fucking Deep Throat.

[Daphne Springs]

I need to see Alex. I need to see Alex's voice notes, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Daphne Springs]

Tylenol.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, Learn to suck dick like a fucking man.

[Daphne Springs]

Come on. Like an entrepreneur.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

Crazy. Do you want to be successful in this business or not? What? What?

[Andrew Schulz]

Watch the news report. I want to go straight to.

[Daphne Springs]

No, that's the best. That's the best video.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Detroit rapper Charlamagne. Huh?

[Daphne Springs]

My God. The girl is doing a podcast and her wig falls off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, hilarious.

[Daphne Springs]

That is the best video.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hilarious. Detroit rapper Dank the most does what? What does that say? Sue lift after being denied service due to her weight. Says she has been in cars smaller than that before. It really hurt my feelings.

[Andrew Schulz]

Y' all want to watch the actual video?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, play the video, man.

[Daphne Springs]

I just want Lyft driver denied me service BC of my size.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you say?

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, I got more space. My car is small.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can fit in this car.

[Daphne Springs]

No, believe me, you can.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes, I can believe it.

[Hezekiah Walker]

So I'm sorry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? What am I going to do about my money?

[Daphne Springs]

Well, I'm going to cancel you. You're not going to be car.

[Andrew Schulz]

So you telling me I can't get in the lift because I can't fit in your car?

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, you need to order a bigger car.

[Andrew Schulz]

What make you think I can't fit in a car?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Andrew Schulz]

What makes you think I can't fit in this car?

[Chris]

Cuz the car is small.

[Andrew Schulz]

My best friend has a dance that's.

[Daphne Springs]

Newer than this that I can fit in.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's the same time.

[Daphne Springs]

All right, we got it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y.

[Daphne Springs]

She could fit in the car tires yeah. And you have no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think the L driver gave a great advice. He told a. Call Uber xl.

[Daphne Springs]

Now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He did. He told her, call Uber xl. I don't see the problem with any of this, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

You trying to be cheap?

[Daphne Springs]

Nah, she could fit in a car. Like, it's.

[Andrew Schulz]

She can. She's going to be uncomfortable. Not the lift driver.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, she. You don't know that she could fit.

[Andrew Schulz]

In the car because he would sit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On the partner, the suspension. That car might start hitting the back. So I'm saying, like, I don't. I don't have a problem with anything. That he wasn't rude. He wasn't disrespectful. He told her what the issue was. He could have been, you know, a rule would have been just driving off. Because he could have just did that. You could have just canceled the ride and drove the.

[Daphne Springs]

What if she jumped on a car?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He could have been. Yo, he gave her good advice. Go get Uber xl. He could have been like, yo, why you call forklift? But no, you didn't do that. He wasn't disrespectful. Like, he was not disrespectful. Like, there's a lot. Like, we know assholes, bro. Like, he was not. There was a lot of empathy in what he was saying.

[Daphne Springs]

You hear this guy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There was a lot. No, I'm sorry.

[Daphne Springs]

You hear this guy? Why don't you call a forklift?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't say that. No, I did say that, but what I mean is, I'm saying I meant.

[Daphne Springs]

That as if she lifted a fork. Enough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on down. It's what we do, man. It's what we do. We don't even try, baby. Okay, bro. Damn. We can move on.

[Daphne Springs]

That's it. Ain't nothing else to say. Ain't nothing else to say over here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We can move on. Taylor, what else we got? Taylor?

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, can I just say something, though? You said it earlier.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Andrew Schulz]

Cause y' all did breakfast up court. Because in the news report, they're trying to basically say, like, we shouldn't discriminate. Because now, you know, what if it was a Lyft driver trying to come in against a black person, like, trying to equate that to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Here's the thing, man. God bless Dank the most. You know, if her feelings are hurt, I'm sorry she had to go through this, but the reality of the situation is when you are that size, people are going to make choices, and those choices may not be in your benefit. When you walking on a plane, somebody gonna be like, somebody gonna pull you to the side and be like, excuse me. You know, a lock bar you post.

[Daphne Springs]

You gotta hit her with the alaak bars.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, they gonna be like, yo, you gotta buy two seats, maybe three.

[Daphne Springs]

You know what? She.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or you might get a disrespectful last flight attendant. Be like, yo, why are you here? You should be flying cargo. But ain't nobody gonna do that. No, I'm saying. No, what I'm saying is there's assholes out here, and you don't have to.

[Daphne Springs]

You scream, allah Akbar. She just goes. Does someone say allah? Snack bars.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All you can eat snack bars. That's all you can eat snack bar with the plane. Just when the planes have snack bars. Listen, all I'm simply saying is I thought the guy handled it. Well, if she was at an amusement park.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They not gonna let her on certain rides.

[Daphne Springs]

Which ones?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

None of them. She's real. What ride could she get on?

[Daphne Springs]

Bumper cars? Nah, bro, they just have to run around out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, she'd be at Disney. Stop.

[Daphne Springs]

That's fucked up. That felt too far. She'd be at Disney. That fell too far.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, listen, if she's at Disney, they're not gonna let her get on this Small World. That's not. That's not funny. None of this is funny.

[Daphne Springs]

No, I know.

[Andrew Schulz]

She got those cups that, like, turn the magic teacups.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She could.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I mean, she can go to SeaWorld and get paid.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, okay.

[Daphne Springs]

Went too far now. That was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You went, too. You should be able to sue.

[Daphne Springs]

If you're walking around SeaWorld and someone throws a fish in your mouth out of nowhere, you should be able to sue. You should be able to sue SeaWorld for that. If you just walking through SeaWorld looking at the penguin exhibit, and someone goes, oh, shit. One got out, and it throws a fish at your head.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's not a penguin on this planet that is that big. You said a penguin. Out of all of the fucking animals you could pick, you picked a goddamn penguin.

[Daphne Springs]

I said, looking at the penguins.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My God, man, I.

[Daphne Springs]

This is fucked up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not fucked up.

[Daphne Springs]

I'm not mature enough to talk about this. Yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not mature enough to talk about this. I'm not mature because I am a notorious fat shamer. For decades, I am a bigot of big backs, Yo. A woman called the radio station this morning, said, charlamagne, you don't like big fat people anyway. That is not true. I love fat people. But you know what I love even more? Fat people jokes.

[Daphne Springs]

Fat people jokes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jokes. They hit. We grew up in the era of your mama stole fat.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, that was how my brain was trained. I originally learned how to tell fat jokes because of fat people.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I.

[Daphne Springs]

This is culture. This is our culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is culture, man.

[Daphne Springs]

This is our culture. We can't. You're gonna tell us to extinguish our culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Culture, man.

[Daphne Springs]

Are you gonna say our culture's not welcome in this place?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And guess what? Every fat person I knew that was funny. They was funny. So if you had them jokes for them, they was coming back.

[Daphne Springs]

I bet she got jokes. I bet she got jokes. It's rare that fat people got no jokes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There was a fat girl in our school, man, in high school, man. She used to. I told y' all this before. She wore a purple Phoenix Suns starter jacket, and the logo of the Phoenix sun is the sun. And it used to be on her back.

[Daphne Springs]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And we used to go around her and just walk around in circles, rotating around the sun. She was rotating around the sun over and over, like.

[Andrew Schulz]

And y' all probably made her cry. Never.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She had jokes.

[Daphne Springs]

She had jokes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She had jokes. I didn't grow up around since. Why? There was. You know what's real funny?

[Daphne Springs]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna tell you something. The sensitive people I grew up around was other guys. And there's only one guy that was very, very, very, very, very sensitive. Very sensitive. Very sensitive. I refuse to say I've told this story before. Find all the episodes of brilliant if you want to hear that story. But he was sensitive.

[Daphne Springs]

But she was never sensitive. She just made fun of you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Never sensitive.

[Daphne Springs]

Call you gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, one day she fell.

[Daphne Springs]

You know what planet you were.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no. She didn't call me gay. She called me a fragglemac in the 90s. Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

What planet were you rotating her?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Uranus.

[Daphne Springs]

There it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're not. One day she fell. She was coming off the steps and she fell and she fell on her stomach, and she was on the ground like this. And we're dying, laughing. She was laughing, too, because she couldn't get up. She's doing this, and she like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And that's why she's like, all right, for real. Help me. I can't get up.

[Daphne Springs]

And you helped her, of course.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I'm not that strong. I was fucking. I was like, if nobody else is going to help me. If nobody.

[Daphne Springs]

You try to help her. You know what I mean? You try to help this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, if nobody's going to help me.

[Daphne Springs]

You can't do it by yourself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I cannot do it by myself.

[Daphne Springs]

You got to get down there with her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you know what that lesson taught me?

[Daphne Springs]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lose some fucking weight.

[Daphne Springs]

And did that person end up losing weight and having a long, productive life?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. But you know why you need to lose weight? Think of your pallbearers.

[Daphne Springs]

Ooh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A lot of us don't have that many friends. If you on instagram and you £400, but you putting quotes like, my circle so small, it's a dot. Who the fuck is gonna carry your casket?

[Daphne Springs]

They should drain them out for that, don't you think? Like, oh, my God, they don't need to die fat. Just drain them out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All three made them.

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, don't ask us things. Don't ask to talk about serious shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're not mature enough.

[Andrew Schulz]

She's a rapper, so like you said, she's getting as much attention.

[Daphne Springs]

She got bars, probably.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She got plenty of them.

[Daphne Springs]

Kit Kats.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kit Kats.

[Andrew Schulz]

I hate them.

[Daphne Springs]

I hate them. Stop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop. I told you to go, Taylor.

[Daphne Springs]

Go to another topic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A long time ago. You kept on.

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, we're not the top enough, Taylor. We're not mature enough. I'm trying to tell you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Hopefully y' all are mature for this one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I gotta get a hands out. I'll be right back. I'll be back. I'll be. When you get the ice, I'll be back.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, my gosh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me tell you something, man. U.S. senate candidate Sam Parker calls it deport Selena Gomez. She fires back. This is the energy I like, yo.

[Daphne Springs]

From whom? Both talk to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause Selena was expressing her feelings rightfully. So she was upset because there's so many Mexicans being deported, and she. Play it. Play the. Play the clip, Taylor. Play the clip.

[Daphne Springs]

So sorry, only.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People are getting attacked.

[Daphne Springs]

Children. They don't understand. I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't. I don't know what to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll try everything, I promise. So Selena broke down about the deportation of Mexican people following Trump's executive orders. I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't. Now. What did this. What did. What. What did. What did the senator say? Sam Parker. Is he the senator?

[Daphne Springs]

Well, real, real quick, before we go to what he said, it was only three words. Oh. Deport Selena Gomez.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Deport Selena Gomez.

[Daphne Springs]

Okay, so here. Okay, first of all, like, it is weird to, like, post videos of yourself crying on the Internet. I do find that weird because it Seems a little performative, so I, I understand that. But like, being really sad that people are getting sent home and not people who have committed crimes. Not like murderers, not rapists, not gang members, like people who did come here illegally, but they have families here and they have a life here. And being sent home and feeling emotional about that is okay. I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, I empathize with that feeling. I think we should all feel sad about that. Like, you can, you can also feel like illegal people should be sent away and sad that their lives are being disrupted. Both of those things can exist. You don't have to do this deport Selena Gomez shit so that you can get a bunch of fucking retweets like as corny politics to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Corny politics? Yeah, but slaps on social media.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, but it don't, it don't hit that hard. Like, if you're gonna do it, it gotta hit hard.

[Hezekiah Walker]

But doesn't it speak to their base?

[Daphne Springs]

But, like, I, I, I'll be honest with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go to Selena's response.

[Daphne Springs]

What? What did she say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just like the energy of it all. I like the fact that Selena felt the way she felt, he felt the way he felt. But then Selena didn't, she didn't, she didn't play victim. That's right.

[Daphne Springs]

What did she say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She didn't come back. Like, oh, I'm sad. That was disrespectful. Blah, blah, blah.

[Daphne Springs]

Friday, Taylor, she said kill. She said kill. Sam Parker. No, no, someone else said she ain't go that crazy. What'd she say? What did Selena say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where is it at? Taylor just put Selena Gomez response. Oh, yeah. Oh, Mr. Parker, Mr. Parker. Thanks for the laugh and the threat. Cause that's what it was. It was a laugh and it was a threat.

[Daphne Springs]

I guess.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like the response. I like the response.

[Daphne Springs]

Man, I need bars. Who is Sam Parker? Where is he?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's Utah. I like the response. I just like the energy of this. Because here's the reality of the situation. Yes, people are getting sent home, you know, that are here illegally, but they're making a show of it. So if they gonna make a show of it, then the people who are against it should make a show of it too.

[Daphne Springs]

I don't like this. Like, I like sending away criminals. I like sending away people who have broken the law. But I'm like this. I'm just like, yo, lock up that border, build the wall. Make the border as secure as fucking possible. Nobody can sneak in. And the people already have, like, established lives, families here. Who are working, being productive, maybe hopefully one day citizens of America, sending them back for optics.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your guy, I.

[Daphne Springs]

What do you mean text him? I told him that day when I spoke to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you did?

[Daphne Springs]

On yes, of course. And I asked him specifically for this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I do remember Terry style weapons. They've taken it over.

[Daphne Springs]

But I think most people on board with, with deporting any illegal that has committed a crime. Yeah, Like, I think there is bipartisan support of that. I think the tricky thing comes. And honestly, I have empathy. Like, you're a business owner. There's been people, I'm not trying to out you, but like there's been people I'm sure that might not have had like legal citizenship that have maybe worked in various businesses. And it's like, you know, I'd definitely been taken care of as a kid by people that weren't legal babysitters and stuff. So there, there are people that maybe would like a path to citizenship. Did I have a lot of empathy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have to start with the criminals.

[Daphne Springs]

Agreed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, look, remember that point.

[Daphne Springs]

Listen, everything that I felt in that interview, I asked everything that was important for me and this was an important thing for me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it's interesting. Here's the thing that's interesting to me about it, right? If, if Latinos voted for Donald Trump. More than 50% of Latinos voted for Donald Trump.

[Daphne Springs]

But they don't want the illegal immigration too. The illusion is that they are o with the illegal immigration just because they're Latinos. And that is like we were talking about cultural misunderstanding. If you are Latino but you've lived in America for two generations, you feel like a lot of conservative Americans feel about illegal immigration.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

As Ida Rodriguez once said, there's a lot of Latinos who think that they're white.

[Daphne Springs]

No, no, that doesn't make you white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That, no, it don't make you white. But some of them culturally have adopted a lot of conservative values.

[Daphne Springs]

But conservative doesn't make white. Like, I think every immigrant that comes to America is conservative. Like literally the countries that they come from and they leave, the values of those countries reflect conservative values much more than liberal ones. You think these people coming from these third world oppressed countries are like, yeah, we should chop off kids dicks in schools? No, not at all. They're like, what the fuck is going on? Why is my kid coming home from school going, he says, I don't have a gender. They are far more conservative. If you are immigrating from a place that is a third world country where you are an oppressed group, and you're seeking asylum here. I guarantee you your values align with conservatives way more than they do liberals.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely. But she. I can put the clip in. But this is when she was on my TV show, and she was just speaking to Latinos who actually think they're white, not just conservative.

[Daphne Springs]

There are Latinos that are white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why does the Latino vote differ so much from the black vote? Because we got our own white people, and people don't understand that. That we have all. And the assimilation possibility for a Latinx Latinate Latin people is higher. People can come from other parts of Latin America, marry white as, like they're told to do, assimilate, and assume a white identity that black people cannot escape from. So they will continue to vote in that way because to them, that's upward mobility. And unfortunately for us, success means being patted on the back. Not all of us, because y' all gonna go crazy on Twitter. I ain't got a Twitter, so it's okay. But they get the pat on the back from white people, and they feel like that's what being American is. Damn. And that colorism is real in our community.

[Daphne Springs]

That's another thing. Like, if just because you're from Mexico is a country, like, America's a country, it has white people, it has black people, it has Asian people, and it has brown people. It has indigenous people. Like, there are plenty of white Mexicans. Canelo Alvarez is a white Mexican.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, absolutely.

[Daphne Springs]

So I think that's a lot of times our perspective on these. We think we're the only country that got white people in America, us in Canada. But there are white people in Argentina that immigrated there from fucking Italy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you know what's so interesting about Germany?

[Daphne Springs]

We should look into them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what's so interesting about what you said? Canelo Alvarez, to some Mexicans isn't Mexican enough. That's the critique of Canelo Alvarez. Mexican. He's not a Mexican Mexican, whatever the fuck that means.

[Daphne Springs]

And then, yeah, so there's the cultural divide there. There's their own racism. There's their own, like, colorism, you know, that exists in these countries as well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I would just think, politically, if 50% of all Latinos, you know, voted for you, you would just move a little different. And he said before the election. I think it was before, maybe it was after the election. He said that he was gonna look at these things on a case by case. Oh, no, that was the pardons. I'm bugging. Yeah, that was the pardon. But he should have looked. He should Be looking at this on a case by case basis. Cases like all the criminals. Sure. If they. But you know what they'll say? They'll say being here illegally is a crime.

[Daphne Springs]

Well, I would say that they've committed a crime here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how I feel like, I think.

[Daphne Springs]

I think we should start with that. Why don't we start with everybody that's committed a crime here? You get them out. Right. That's number one. Let's start with that and then see where we go from here. Yeah, but I don't think it has to start with the blanket thing. I think that's a little bit more for optics and supporting your base. But.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I say real. I know, I know a family that had to leave Tuesday because one of the parents was illegal. Yeah, man, like, and it's like they live here. Like the kid was born here, all of that. But he got it. Like, what you going to just, you think you just go send one back. You said, imagine being married and they just send your significant other back. You're just going to let them go back and you're not going to go back.

[Daphne Springs]

It is incredibly sad. And that's why I think there has to be another way. I think there's not a single American that is against sending back criminals. Like, I don't know any American that would be like, yeah, we should keep the people who illegally come here and then commit crimes here. I don't know one American that would be against that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, that's the show that.

[Daphne Springs]

Would unite both parties.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the show that they should put on. Like Instead of having Dr. Phil out there and they're just showing him lockup, you know, illegals. If you're gonna do it, plaster that plaster what they did. This is such and such. He committed a murder. This is such and such. He did a robbery. This is such and such. He was a rapist. Like, do that and it'll make more sense.

[Daphne Springs]

And then if their families choose to go back with them, you go, well, maybe you should have cared more about your family and shouldn't have committed a crime here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

Because his decisions have impacted his family. Right. You decide to commit crimes, you decide to break the law, you decide to do these things. But if you got hard working people who are here illegally, like, I don't think we need to start with them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know, that's why a guy like Sam Parker would, would make that would say that to Selena Gomez. Because in Sam Parker's mind, we're deporting the worst of the worst. That's it. That's his mentality. So if you're crying about us sending back the worst of the worst, I'm gonna hit you with this. Well, prove it hurts.

[Daphne Springs]

Prove it's the worst of the worst.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Prove it's the worst mentality is you're Spanish. You aren't from here either, right? I think that's his mentality.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I mean. I don't know. I mean, I, I can't.

[Hezekiah Walker]

That's the first thing you go to.

[Daphne Springs]

I don't think so. I think he's trying to be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I think. I think he was trying to say, like, if you're supporting these people, you can go too. That's what I think. That's. That's what I took from it. But the family. But the fact she's Spanish. Yes, I understand that. The family.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, he probably wasn't a criminal.

[Hezekiah Walker]

She wouldn't say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, the family I know wasn't a criminal at all.

[Daphne Springs]

See, that's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They just. They just were here. They were here illegally, which is a crime. But they didn't commit a crime. They didn't commit a violent crime or anything.

[Daphne Springs]

Why take your whole family back? Just go back to where you're from.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man. Can you. I don't even. I wouldn't even.

[Daphne Springs]

No, no, no. Wait for it. Wait for it. You got here once illegally. You know what I mean?

[Hezekiah Walker]

You know how dangerous it is.

[Daphne Springs]

It's not like y' all haven't spoken to enough illegals like I, I, I. You'll be speaking to that illegal, son. I used to work in restaurants for decades. I spoke to them about their stories coming. These would pop back for a quinceanera, then come back illegally again.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I. We hear about a lot of killing and the cartels.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, you. There are definitely stories, obviously, especially if you're getting a coyote, of basically a person who's a smuggler. And being indebted to them is different than if you have a job here. You have savings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your wife also want a coyote. Why not the Road Runner? That's who you should be.

[Hezekiah Walker]

You really are too immature.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

We can't have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You mean. First of all, this is our culture. This is brilliant. Idiot's culture.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, that is brilliant culture. We've created a culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. This is our culture. Okay.

[Daphne Springs]

Half a million people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Daphne Springs]

Every single week. Are deciding not to take things too seriously.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, no. Are deciding that we do not have the maturity to have these smart discussions.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Half a million millions. It's More than. How much is it, Chris?

[Daphne Springs]

Well, I'm saying after we kick the illegal team.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, we do have a heavy Mexican. You know when I realized we had a heavy Mexican fan base when we had Letty on and we started a lie about how Van hates Mexicans.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I think that kind of still sticks to him a little bit.

[Daphne Springs]

No way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

Van hates Mexicans.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. Remember we said that back in the day?

[Daphne Springs]

He does, though. I have seen him do a few things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think so?

[Daphne Springs]

I remember the way he would, like, dude, like, the busboy would come to take his plate and he'd, like, tip it over and the food would fall on the floor. No, shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Up. No, that's what they should have sent for. What's her name? Who? The rapper from Detroit. What's her name?

[Daphne Springs]

Dank Moses.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She should have sent her a van.

[Daphne Springs]

I mean, it's like, listen, man, we shoot. Listen to the track, bitch, turn away.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You moving got me in a trance. What else we got, Taylor? Nah, it's a crazy week. This was a crazy week, man. Trump kept promises, bro. If you voted for Donald Trump, he told you he was gonna do all of these things, and he's doing them. So if this is what you want, you're getting what you want. I mean, Jesus Christ, Starwood.

[Daphne Springs]

Start with illegals, man. Don't. Don't do this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like that. You don't like this, but I never liked it. You did. You did. You did. You told him. I remember. I remember.

[Daphne Springs]

No, you know that the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You should clip that, yo. Now the time, yo. Flagrant memes. That's the clip.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, put it out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Clip that part and put that out now. Now is the perfect time to put that.

[Daphne Springs]

I agree. I agree. You know, I mean, shout out Mexicans, bro. The greatest might be. We might be the luckiest country in history to have a neighbor next door. That is that awesome. Like, I think there are very few people who are upset at the cultural influences in America from the Mexican people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To be honest with you, I don't even see what the issue is. Here's the thing. Forget the race of the people, the culture, the energy. But I'm saying, if you're not from here and, you know, you get the privilege of living in this great country and you commit horrendous crimes.

[Daphne Springs]

Gotta go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You should be deported immediately, Period. You know what I mean? Cause it's not. That's the other thing. Just Mexicans, like, it's. It's Haitians, it's africans.

[Daphne Springs]

Guatemalan, Chinese, Chinese, 100 Indian.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got a big illegal immigrant.

[Daphne Springs]

Do they?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Oh, wow, look it up.

[Daphne Springs]

I thought they got. They got the H1B visas.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, some of them. Not all of them, though. I was just reading about it the other day. I meant to ask for Vick about that when we had him on the show. Yeah. You see, they got Vic the up out of Doge.

[Daphne Springs]

We were talking to him about that. We're talking about that. I did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, he did the show.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, word. Dope, dope, dope. Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

I think him and Elon had different ideas for Doge. And Elon was like, well, my idea is the idea for Doge, I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But Vic got sporty with those tweets.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, that day also.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I think. I think Vivek got sporty with those tweets and was calling people, calling them lazy Americans and basically saying, this is why y' all gotta bring us over here, blah, blah, blah. And they did not like that. The MAGA reaction to that was, yes, and I think that. And I told him, I was like, I say, listen, I hear everything you're saying about the Elon and all that shit, but I don't believe nothing you're saying right now. I believe they got you the fuck up out of here because of those tweets. Do you think you were pushed out of Doge because Trump rolled back the DEI initiatives?

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

No, to the contrary. And, you know, I would say, just to be super clear about it, I have no problem with, you know, framing or whatever. It was really just an actual mutual decision. Where you look at, here was one vision on approach, here's a different vision on an approach, that's great. There's no right or wrong answer. With a technology driven approach and a technology first approach, there's no better person than Elon to run with that. With a constitutional law focus, with a legislation focus. Some of the areas I was focused on, probably the right place to do it, is elected office. And so we all agreed on that. And I think that that's actually a good thing where we're able to. Where we're actually able to collaborate, divide and conquer.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hear you, Vivek. I don't believe you. But I think. I think you either got pushed out or, you know, that it's going to implode. I think that, you know, Elon is going to crash and burn it. And you're a smart guy and you said, you know what, let me get out of Dodge and go do my governor Ohio thing.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

So look I hear.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I knew exactly.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

I knew that the right step for me in the long run is elected office and to pursue the vision that we're talking about here, to actually translate that to action in my own terms. That's what I've been called to do. It was clear that I could not do that and serve on Doge at the same time, even for logistical reasons. It came to be in the government rather than an outside body. I was proud to be able to spend the first couple of months offering my contributions and setting it in the right direction with its focus now with its digital technology focus. No better person to do that than Elon in the way that he's going to lead it. And I am hopeful that there's going to be a lot of streamlining of government bureaucracy that comes out of that, and I'm pursuing my next steps at the state level.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are they going to endorse you? Is Elon going to endorse you? Endorse you?

[Daphne Springs]

We're on.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

We're all on very good terms. And so I. I wouldn't want to speak for anybody else, but I will say that they are very supportive of. Of the decision that I made to pursue as my next step.

[Daphne Springs]

But the irony is that Elon is the perfect example to prove Vivek's point. Elon, not from here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

Just remember that before you cancel the H1B visas. Your boy Elon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

Is here on an H1B visa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What'd you think about Elon? What the hell? Hitler, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

I don't think he. I mean, this is a perfect example. This is a perfect example of, like, the ridiculousness that you just have to acknowledge. So what we do forever in politics, both sides do this is like, they'll do something bad, whether it's on purpose or a mistake, and then they'll just gaslight the opposition and say acknowledging it. Yeah, it looked fucking insane. So what you should do is get on Twitter and be like, yo, that looked fucking insane. I just saw the video. Not what I meant at all. That looked crazy. What you don't do is go, oh, you guys are being absurd. You guys are being crazy. Stop playing around. Cuz that's what Democrats did for four years, and that drove Republicans crazy. Anytime Republicans ask a question about something, they're like, why? What's up with the hormones and the kids? They're like, oh, that's not a big deal. Stop making a big deal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't tell me I'm not seeing what I'm seeing.

[Daphne Springs]

Exactly. And all you have to do is acknowledge. Right. What's wrong. Now, here's the problem with politics. The second you acknowledge what's wrong, the opposition uses it against you to get you the fuck out of here. Right? So, like, Newsom can't go. Yeah, we might have made some mistakes that, you know, it wasn't our intention for these decisions that we made to affect the fires negatively, but we made some decisions that affected the fires negatively, and we wish we could have made a different choice that would have potentially limited what happened with these fires. He can't say that because then Republicans are going to beat him over the head and get him the fuck out of here. But the crazy part, you lie, but it's obvious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's obvious.

[Daphne Springs]

That's to us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We see it. We see the legislation, we see the, you know, the budget cuts to the final part. We see these things. Like, it happened. Like.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, but you also see Trump never take accountability for anything he does. And now he's the president, so that don't happen. You're not incentivized to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, I keep telling y' all, Trump is not the president because of anything other than great promotion and marketing.

[Daphne Springs]

How much you want to bet part.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Of the great marketing is never admitting to doing anything?

[Daphne Springs]

Here's. Here's. Here's how. Here's how you will be able to tell if Elon thought it was inappropriate or not. Does he do it next time he's on stage? If he doesn't do it the next time he's on stage, he's acknowledging that it made people feel uncomfortable. It was a little weird, and it's probably not something that he should do. And it distracts from the issues, what they're trying to get, what they're trying to get accomplished. If he continues to do it, then he really doesn't believe it's an issue. But my suspicion is he will not continue to do it because he saw how it made people feel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think Elon gives a fuck about how people feel.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, I think he cares.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Nah, I think he cares.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the thing. Like, even when I saw the ADL and the statement that they put out, which was. Cause they defended him, it was so weak. It's like a whole week.

[Chris]

I was very disappointed.

[Daphne Springs]

Wait, do y' all think he's really a Nazi? And waited for that day to let everybody know. Yo, Nazi.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, but pull up.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, stop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But pull up the ADL statement. No, it ain't about this. Here's the thing.

[Daphne Springs]

You can do something stupid and Wrong. And also not be a Nazi.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How long have you known me, Schultz?

[Daphne Springs]

12 years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is one thing I love? Consistency. You cannot be the adl. And then all of a sudden, a guy throws up two Hail Hitlers, and you say, let's give him some grace. The ADL don't ever give nobody. It was also the tweet.

[Chris]

That tweet was. There's not a lot of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, that's when the ADL started. The adl.

[Chris]

There's not a lot of stuff that offends me.

[Daphne Springs]

What was the tweet? What was the tweet?

[Chris]

He tried to make a pun on different ss. I wrote it down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When ADL came back and said they talked, I was like, yeah, they got him for that.

[Daphne Springs]

What do you say? What'd he say?

[Chris]

Don't say Hess. A play on Hess. To Nazi accusations. Some people will gobbles down anything. Stop goring your enemies. His pronouns would have been he, Himmler. Bet you didn't see Naz. Bet you did. Nazi that coming.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's what the ADL troll the headline. Yo, fuck you. But see, the ADL took issue with the Nazi puns, but they defended them for the two hell Hitlers. But I think that they only took offense to the Nazi puns because of the backlash they got because they didn't come out strong enough against the hell hit.

[Chris]

Yeah. I'm just saying, I don't like.

[Daphne Springs]

You don't even. You don't even have to go up and apologize. You can just validate how it made some people feel. You don't have to say, I'm, I, I. I'm a bad person. You don't have to say that. I believe these things that people are saying about me. You just have to be like, yo, I watched it. That should look crazy. It was not what I. What? What? How it made people feel was not what my intention was at all. I probably got to find a different salute next time I'm on stage. If you just said that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We said what Elon should say weeks ago.

[Daphne Springs]

What was it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm retarded.

[Daphne Springs]

That also works.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's it.

[Daphne Springs]

That also works.

[Chris]

I'm just saying, if someone tells you who they are, believe me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then he told the tweet is wild. And then he had a. No, the tweet is wild. And then he told German. Then he told Germans to move past the guilt. Like, you can't. You. You can't tell the people who say, never forget to move past the guilt, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

I mean, I think you can. I think You Germans now, the ones that had nothing to do with it, and they're 25 years old, can move past the guilt. I don't think you have to feel guilty for the sins of your grandfather. Like, you don't feel guilty for the sins of your grandfather. You don't feel guilty for the sins of yours. You don't feel guilty the sins of yours. I don't feel guilty for the sins of mine. So I think there is something to it. Is it the right time for him to tweet that out? No, but I think there is. I think there's a little space between, yes, this is Elon coming out as a Nazi, and yes, there's a guy who fucked up. Like, I think we. And if we allow that grace for both parties, I think we'll have way better communication.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the ADL can't allow this grace. The ADL said this is a delicate moment. It's a new day, and yet so many are on edge. Our politics are inflamed, and social media only adds to the anxiety. It seems that Elon Musk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute. But again, we appreciate that people are on edge in this moment. All sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath. This is a new beginning. Let's hope for healing and work toward unity in the months and years ahead. Bro, Kyrie Irving just posted a book.

[Chris]

Yeah, it's. It was disappointing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kyrie Irving posted a book.

[Daphne Springs]

But what was the book?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was a book off Amazon. It was a movie.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, I think that's a. Listen, I think it's a little different. If Elon is posting. What is Hitler's book again? If he's posting Mein Kampf, I think that there's gonna be some criticism of it. But if Kyrie's posting a book that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A movie.

[Daphne Springs]

Sorry, a movie that reinforces some of these anti Semitic tropes, I think there can be some pushback on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But can I. Can I not watch a movie?

[Daphne Springs]

No, you can watch whatever you want to watch, by the way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he didn't put no context to it. That's my point. I want to know what the context is. Like, they didn't even put context. They jumped on Kyrie without knowing anything. That's my point.

[Daphne Springs]

So then put context.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's my point. But Kyrie didn't put no context. They didn't. All I'm saying is they didn't get Kyrie's grace established.

[Chris]

A precedent?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Daphne Springs]

I wouldn't make. I wouldn't compare these two.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, forget Kyrie.

[Chris]

This is what I would say if you took. And I. Look, I've seen all the stuff with the other politicians giving similar.

[Daphne Springs]

I hate that. That's stupid, too.

[Chris]

But anyway, let's just say take the. The, you know, his motion, whatever it was. And isolated. Yes, I can see what you're saying.

[Daphne Springs]

It was too many fingers.

[Chris]

But when you add. Add the speech in Germany on one side of that. When you add that tweet on the other side of it, I have a very hard time.

[Daphne Springs]

Can I just be honest?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And also before that, they said he was letting so much anti Semitic rhetoric go up on Twitter.

[Daphne Springs]

Too many fingers.

[Chris]

You're German, so you tell me as.

[Daphne Springs]

A German person, you can go like this. Explain this, because you can go like this and go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't do it.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, you can go like this. You go, that's cool. This, you can even go like that.

[Chris]

Full fingers.

[Daphne Springs]

The second you get more than, like, three fingers involved, that's where it gets crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every guy said it at Diddy Freedom. Every guy that Diddy freaks.

[Daphne Springs]

We're not mature enough. We're not mature enough. Don't ask me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All I'm simply saying is I've seen the ADL call people anti Semitic for way less.

[Daphne Springs]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've seen the ADL label people anti Semitic for way less.

[Daphne Springs]

Sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know what the reality of the situation is?

[Daphne Springs]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can't nobody do nothing to Elon Musk. Yep. You can't do nothing. Elon Musk. He's the richest man in the world, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

That's what happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can't take nothing from him.

[Daphne Springs]

That's what happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, people ain't giving up their Teslas.

[Daphne Springs]

Jordan did the Hitler mustache. Nobody says he did it in a Hanes commercial.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, he.

[Daphne Springs]

He did the Hitler mustache in the Hanes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did he say, Hail Haynes?

[Daphne Springs]

No, but he was like, these whites are the greatest whites.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I just have one theory. I think he was sitting next to Zuckerberg, sitting next to. What's the bezos and all that. He's like, yo, I bet you 100 mil I can get on stage and throw a salute up and get away with it.

[Chris]

So two Jews wanted to see him do that?

[Hezekiah Walker]

No, I think they. They're like, yo, you are sitting next to them.

[Daphne Springs]

And he got annoyed. He's like.

[Hezekiah Walker]

But I think it's just big money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where'd you get this from?

[Hezekiah Walker]

No, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, what? Did what?

[Daphne Springs]

It's brilliant.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Idiots. I know. But why? Like, what? That was. That. That was like.

[Hezekiah Walker]

They were. They were sitting next to each other, and you have billions of dollars. The world is just fun. Like, he can get away with anything he wants to do right now. And he's like, yo, I bet you I'll do that. And they're like, for a crazy amount of money. He's like, no, you won't. And then he hit it twice.

[Daphne Springs]

All I'm saying is we're misinterpreted constantly. People take the things that we say and do out of context and use them for their own record. Rhetoric that supports whatever they already feel constantly. So I am empathetic to somebody being misunderstood. Even if they do something that on paper looks awful on video looks.

[Chris]

Then why send the tweet?

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.

[Daphne Springs]

You know why? Because. Because now he's in the position of, we don't have to double down to cancel culture, blah, blah, blah. He's missing the nuance of it. You're not. You're not taking a knee and bending over for cancel culture. That's not what it's about. You saw the video. You put too many fingers up. You could do the same thing with one finger. And now it's a. It's like Kobe or some shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's not do so. Let's not do right now what we're accusing other people. We saw what we saw. Now, what was their intention behind it? What was the reason for it? I don't know.

[Daphne Springs]

That's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it was a Hell Hitler.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah. No, no, there's no question. It was the exact same gesture. The question is, what is the intent behind it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think that matters, though.

[Daphne Springs]

Well, it doesn't matter to the people that just want to believe whatever they want to believe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't think of any scenario where somebody who's not the richest man in the world can do a Hell Hitler anywhere in America and still just thrive the next day. Cause if it. Do it right now, pledge that I pledge allegiance. You know what I mean? We just know, like, I don't know.

[Chris]

It was whack.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That shit was whack. But guess what? There's nothing you can do to Elon.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nothing.

[Chris]

That's why the ADL has to be consistent, because that's speaking truth to power. Is where you, I agree, are useful.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The ADL should have jumped out the window, put down a hard statement, because they know they can't do nothing. To him, except for give a hard statement, you know what I mean? That's it. All right. We got any more bills, Taylor?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shout out to the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. Man, salute to Gilly the King, man.

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, shout out Gilly man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bro. First of all, I love Gillian Wallow. Like, those are two good brothers who deserve everything that they are currently receiving in the world. But when we talk about the culture of a city, we talk about people who mean something to their city. Gilly the King literally has everybody doing his Philadelphia Eagles dance.

[Chris]

Blow the Whistle.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blow the whistle. I was looking on Apple's music charts. Blow the Whistle was the number one song in Philadelphia. And you got people from all races. I'm watching Asian people and white people and all of these different people doing Gilly's dance. I'm not gonna do it. Cause I'm not an Eagles fan. You know what I mean? But he loves the Eagles so much. Him and the little midget that be in the Philadelphia uniform. I'm not the uniform. The costume. And then the white dude that comes across the street with the broom. So you watching all of these videos and people doing Gilly dance and people got the broom and the video that. It wasn't a video. It was a picture that really touched me, man. And it was funny because I was watching it. And as I was watching the picture, Wallow called me. But I'm watching the picture, the guy that has the broom goes, man, this was the best day of my life. Because I guess Gilly took him to a game and he was like, yo, this was the best day of my life. Thank you, Gilly, for putting some life into this old man.

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gilly going to heaven, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

No perfect example right here of investing in your city. I think a lot of times people, when they one don't come from, like, the big marquee city, what they do is they either adapt to the big city they move to and they forget about kind of where they're from.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's real.

[Daphne Springs]

The people who constantly reinvest in their base get so much love from those people that are used to famous people leaving. There's so much appreciation. And 1. You never lose your authenticity. You. He could go be a superstar for around the world as he is. People listen to him around the country, but we know that he's being authentic because he continues to support this city that is not one. That is not like a New York or LA or even in Atlanta. Like, it's really awesome to see choats.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just hit one out the park. That's why I represent Montconor, South Carolina, the way that I do. Constantly 843. The way that I do. But the thing about Gilly, the reason Gilly and Waller are able to do this, because it's a rap thing. And let me explain, you've had superstars that have come out of Philly, and they say they from Philly, but rappers rep their cities different. Like, no, I'm not knocking none of these guys, because I love all of them. Will Smith, the Roots. Well, not the Roots. Will Smith, Kevin Hart. Who?

[Chris]

Kevin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said, yeah, they say they from Philly, but it's not the same as when Meek Mill says they from Philly or Gilly said they from Philly. Rappers give places identity. Like Jay Z made Empire State of Mind. Like, it's something about, I made. What do you say? I made the Yankee hat more famous than the Yankees can. That's true. It's a truth to that.

[Daphne Springs]

And to be honest, like, even Jay bringing the Nets to Brooklyn, he didn't bring the Nets to Queens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Brooklyn.

[Daphne Springs]

So it's almost like it was Jay reps New York, but it's like his borough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah. It's really cool. I love to see people do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So being that Gilly's a former rapper, but now he's an entrepreneur, podcaster, he still reps Philly. He's putting on those fights in Philly as a rapper.

[Andrew Schulz]

You see him in the streets in Philly all the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See him in the streets in Philly. Him and wallow. That's right. That's right. It's still on the outskirts of Philly anyway.

[Daphne Springs]

I just think it's really cool when people do that. It's easy to be seduced by the big lights of la. And I guarantee both of them have had a million meetings of people saying, move to Los Angeles or even say, move to New York or whatever. It is the fact that they continue to reinvest in their community. And it's not just putting on an Eagles outfit when they put on that boxing match, it's in Philly. You could do it somewhere else.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you go to million dollars worth of game, unless they're traveling, but when you go to $1million worth of game, you're going to their studio in Philly. I've been to the house. Like. Like, yeah, man.

[Daphne Springs]

Let this be a lesson for young people that are getting into entertainment. Do not run away from your home at all. You will have so much love and appreciation if you continue to Invest in your home, and it will really build your identity. Yeah, it's awesome.

[Chris]

The important question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Chris]

Do we have a shot in the game?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Chris]

I mean, I know we have a shot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta beat the refs. You gotta beat the Chiefs and the refs the Eagles are at. If you ask me, the Eagles are a better team this year than the Kansas City Chiefs.

[Daphne Springs]

Don't matter. Kansas City Chiefs just got levels, bro. They just got different levels, and they can rise whenever they need.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want the Eagles to win. Philly's in a great city.

[Daphne Springs]

America wants the Eagles to win. Like, how can you not root for the Eagles? But the Kansas City Chiefs just have this guy named Patrick Mahomes on the team. That is. That might go down as the greatest quarterback in the history of the game.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got a long way to go.

[Daphne Springs]

There's a long way to go. Don't get me wrong. But what he can do out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fantastic.

[Daphne Springs]

Is psych.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna be honest with you. I just don't want to cheat one because I am sick of Taylor Swift. I don't want to see goddamn Taylor Swift. I can't stand that shit. I hate it. I hate when Travis Kelce is up there giving his speech and then they cut the Taylor. They're not even married. Married. Getting married, and then I'll start respecting it. Yo, they're not married. Yo.

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, that's a great point, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why? Like, if ta.

[Daphne Springs]

No cutaways. Unless it's a wife.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Unless it's a wife.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, I don't wan see cutaways. Yo, they might just be friends.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Daphne Springs]

They might just be friends.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, man. Nah, that's what we don't even, man. We.

[Daphne Springs]

Speaking of marriage.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, it's coming.

[Daphne Springs]

They better.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, we are looking at rings.

[Daphne Springs]

Good, good. I want to be looking at one on your hands.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's looking at rings?

[Andrew Schulz]

He already gave me one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This has to stop. Why you mad?

[Andrew Schulz]

Show me. Can you be happy that I'm in love? Like, why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why?

[Daphne Springs]

Why?

[Andrew Schulz]

You know why. Charmaine's upset because he can't joke on me no more. Now he has to joke on every other girl.

[Daphne Springs]

Nah, this is true.

[Andrew Schulz]

He has to joke on every other girl.

[Daphne Springs]

It is true. You can't make fun of a pregnant woman, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who can't?

[Daphne Springs]

You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, not even before. No, before I got pregnant, he was.

[Daphne Springs]

Saying, you're not pregnant.

[Andrew Schulz]

But no, even before I got pregnant, he was like, damn.

[Daphne Springs]

Like he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause she had a man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now you know what I'M saying the only bad part about Taylor being pregnant and having a man and she's giving hope. Why is that bad? Cause they don't need to have no hope. A lot of them need to change. See, Taylor. No, let's talk about this before we go to ads. Right? Matter of fact, no, let's talk about it now. Let's talk about the timeline. Cause, see, I'm a consistent person.

[Daphne Springs]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Last year. Was it last year? Maybe it was the end of last year. I don't remember when it was. I just remember we would ask Taylor, Taylor, what's going on in your life? Whatever. I'm not having sex right now. I'm on a spiritual journey.

[Daphne Springs]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you not say this?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And she was serious about it. She wasn't having sex. She was on a spiritual journey. Blah, blah, blah, this and that. Cool. What does that tell me? Taylor was doing the work on herself. Taylor was doing some internal work, some spiritual work. She was becoming the woman she wanted to be to possibly attract the mate that she wanted. Even if you weren't doing it for that, you were on a spiritual journey. And the universe said, you know what? I like what you're doing. Voila.

[Andrew Schulz]

He was intentional, too. He wants to be married and everything else, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So he was on a spiritual journey. Yeah. So you was on a spiritual journey. This man. Did y' all know y' all was on spiritual journeys together?

[Andrew Schulz]

When we talked about it, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Daphne Springs]

When we first started, they were doing the internal work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. So the moral. So the moral of the story is people gotta go do the work on themselves. Yeah, they do. Be the person. You be the best version of yourself, and then the best version of other people will show up for you.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think also, women have a heart. Well, I shouldn't say women. I just know a lot of people that don't know how to be by themselves. And really, like you said, do the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Work, and you did that.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's not. I'm not scared to be alone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. So, yeah. You know what? You just gave me hope. You gave me hope that Sim and Lauryn, they'll remain single. Nyla's gonna find someone. Nyla will. Nyla will. Because Nyla does. Does actually the work on herself. And. And she'll find the right person.

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, my. My nanny before we did this. This so funny. My nanny walked in. I think I got big points with my nanny today. She walked in, I was like, how's everything going? She's like, God is good. And I just go all the time. And she goes, what did you just say? I go, yeah, all the time. She goes, I like that. I like that a lot.

[Andrew Schulz]

Is she black?

[Daphne Springs]

Say what? She's from Trinidad. That.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay.

[Daphne Springs]

She's Indian though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. She is. She.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Legal.

[Andrew Schulz]

I knew.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nice. Illegal.

[Daphne Springs]

No, no, that was when she was getting deported.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

She was getting taken out handcuffs and I was like, yo, stop. He's like, God is good. I said all the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See you later. True. You go. You go home today and be like, I. She's like, Mr. Schultz, see you tomorrow.

[Daphne Springs]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Daphne Springs]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Daphne Springs]

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[Daphne Springs]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Daphne Springs]

To tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills. But it turns out that's very illegal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a [e-mail] Switch upfront payment of $45 for a three month plan equivalent to $15 per month required new customer offer for first three months only. Speed slow after 35 gigabytes of network's busy taxes and fees extra. See mintmobile.com Back to the show. We only have more ads, right? Dylan? We have one more, two more. God damn.

[Daphne Springs]

If you don't say the line. If you don't say the line. Yeah, but if you don't say the line is soft.

[Andrew Schulz]

What line?

[Daphne Springs]

You got the super bowl because of the song. If you don't do the song and say the line, what's the point?

[Andrew Schulz]

Which line are you talking about?

[Daphne Springs]

The pedophile one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, I wouldn't do it. I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't do it. Not because. And I said this way before any lawsuit and stuff. I wouldn't do it. Cause I just. I wouldn't. That's not my moment. Like, I hate people who think Kendrick Lamar is only at the super bowl because they're not like us.

[Daphne Springs]

He is that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's not, though. These guys had an amazing, amazing career. If he didn't have not like us, Kendrick could still do the Super Bowl.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is the second time.

[Daphne Springs]

Not this year. But he could. But not this year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, okay. To that point.

[Daphne Springs]

Right. It was the biggest song this year. That's not saying it's served. Absolutely deserve. It's the right person to have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Daphne Springs]

But because of the hit song, it's like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But then he put out a fantastic album like Kendrick could not do. Not like us and still have an amazing. I mean, an incredible, beyond incredible set.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't need to hear. Not like I don't need to hear any Diss record at the Super Bowl. And I'm about to say how many people really even know these records? That. That'd be stupid. Everybody knows about the Drake, Kendrick, Diss because it was the two biggest rappers, two of the biggest artists in the.

[Daphne Springs]

World, which is what you want to see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wouldn't give Drake that moment. I just wouldn't.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why do you think it's his. Why do you think that's his moment, though?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wouldn't mention my op on the biggest. On the biggest stage.

[Andrew Schulz]

You don't gotta say his name.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I would do the hook. I literally would do. I had a marching band in New Orleans. They not like us. They done had a crowd thing. And then go on to another record explosion. Boom.

[Andrew Schulz]

I can see him doing that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I would do.

[Andrew Schulz]

I can see the crowd.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not mentioning Parker at the Super Bowl. I'm not mentioning Parker at the Super Bowl.

[Daphne Springs]

That shit is saucy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't want to mention why.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's soft.

[Daphne Springs]

That's soft. Y' all are moving a goal post.

[Andrew Schulz]

You have the crowd say it instead of even him saying it.

[Daphne Springs]

That's fire.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

But you have to play the song.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

And you have to create that scenario where it's played. You could get sneaky about you not saying it, but the crowd says it. But you have to do that moment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want to see Kendrick doing it. He's been doing shit. I heard you like him young. This is your moment. Like the super bowl is like the.

[Daphne Springs]

He got it.

[Hezekiah Walker]

He got it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because rappers don't. Rappers don't.

[Daphne Springs]

You don't do it if you don't do it. If you don't do it, you're just like the artsy little nerd that people think you are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think so.

[Daphne Springs]

If you want to be. If you want to be number one. Hey, he's already know Michael Jackson plays his hits when he does it. Listen, everybody who does it plays their hits. They don't not play the biggest song they've ever had in their career. And this is by far the biggest song he's ever had in his career. So nobody goes to the super bowl and doesn't play their biggest song. And if you don't, you scared. Or. Or you're bowing to corporate interests. And if you're bowing to corporate interest, then now you can no longer be like, I'm the indie guy that's always slept on and nobody thinks about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, he's not indie.

[Daphne Springs]

I think that there is some branding and marketing around it that he's definitely leaned into. So now that. Now that you have the opportunity for the corporations to tell you what to do and you go, yes, of course, whatever you want, Pepsi, I'll make sure that I do that. Now you can't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now you can't.

[Daphne Springs]

Now you can't criticize Drake for doing the same thing if Drake is the bubble gum candy corporate rapper. And the second you get. Everybody loves to criticize people for opportunities they don't have. Now that you have the opportunity to prove you the indie real guy and you don't do it soft.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We never saw. Listen, we never saw back to back on a big stage. Yeah, we never saw Drake go anywhere and perform back to back on a big stage.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, he did the ovo fest.

[Daphne Springs]

He did the ovo fest. He did it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, he had plenty. He could have performed it at the NBA all star game. He didn't do it. He gave a little shot.

[Andrew Schulz]

He said he's gonna retire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, he gave a little shot. Demique when he was talking to Cav and he was just like, yeah, Philly's had a rough month or a rough year or some shit like that, but he didn't perform. I just don't think you should do A diss record on a stage like.

[Daphne Springs]

That'S so Pepsi show. If it's Pepsi show, that's fine. And Pepsi wanna tell you what songs you're allowed to perform. That's totally fine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't gotta listen.

[Daphne Springs]

You don't have to listen. He's going to do it. You don't have to listen. Not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think he should do it. He's going to, though. And I'm consistent. Before the lawsuit, I said he should do the horns and the hook. I just wouldn't be up there mentioning all them other times, like, that's the.

[Andrew Schulz]

Way he played the whole song. He's gonna play the hook.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Especially in an era now, mind you, you especially. And it ain't even really most all about. It's everybody else that he mentions in the record.

[Daphne Springs]

Yo, imagine I went to Abu Dhabi and I didn't make fun of them at all. Oh, you scared, you. Oh, no, it's not the same. But I'm saying they be. Oh, Shultz, you scared. You go to every other country, but when you go to that one where you could get arrested. Now, you. You don't make fun of them. If they said that, I'd be like, man, you're right. You got a good criticism. I. I took the bag going over there, but then I didn't keep it consistent of what I do 100%. So you either scared or you let Pepsi tell you what songs you can or can't play. But either way, it's not authentic. That's the biggest song you've ever had on the biggest year you've ever had, and it's a slapper. He plays that, the whole place is gonna go crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he got about five, six other records that he can play that's gonna make me. I'm a Kendrick fan. So there's other records he can play.

[Daphne Springs]

That there's no question. He's a prolific artist. I'm not saying he's not a prolific artist. With music that's phenomenal. I'm not saying that that isn't the case. What I'm saying is that is by far the biggest song of his career, and this is his year, and he's doing it at the Super Bowl. If he doesn't do it, he either is scared or doing what Pepsi tells. The NFL tells.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's just say. Let's say this.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's gonna do it.

[Daphne Springs]

Listen, and that's okay. A lot of people get in those situations where they do that. They're not willing to fight for Their art, that's fine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's nobody scarier, terrified, frightened than Aubrey Grant. I been saying Aubrey filed this lawsuit cause he's scared that death. Kendrick might perform this in the Super Bowl.

[Daphne Springs]

Even more reason to perform this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think he did this for two reasons. I think Aubrey filed that lawsuit because he wants to make the Grammys feel like, man, we can't reward this record. Man, this record got. You know, he's calling him a pedophile and he's getting sued over this record. We can't give him this record. Even though Grammys can't avoid it.

[Daphne Springs]

If they don't give Kendrick the fucking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Grammy, he gotta get with it.

[Daphne Springs]

The rap song, it's not even close. Not even close. Okay, let's just. I'm honestly trying to speak objectively here. It's the song of the year. The Grammys would do themselves of disservice to not reward the person who put out the song.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not Like Us is one of the biggest songs ever.

[Daphne Springs]

That's my point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not even joking.

[Daphne Springs]

That's why I gotta play it. That's why you gotta play it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't. Wait.

[Andrew Schulz]

You realize you already been taking shots.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

At Orange in the hook.

[Hezekiah Walker]

No, it's the biggest song or in the hook. And you're on the stage, you gotta perform the hook.

[Daphne Springs]

You could do this. You could do. You could. You could say this. You could go say Drake and then don't say anything. And the audio audience goes, I think you like him now. It would be like. What I would look at it is this. I would look at. You had crazy corporate interest telling you you can't do it. And you said, I'm gonna play my song, but I won't say that word that the entire audience is gonna say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That ain't the part I would hit anyway, though. The part I would hit was try to strike a chord.

[Daphne Springs]

And it's probably a minor, but you. It gotta be something. And it. Because if you don't do it.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's been taking shots already during his little teasers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who? What's the shot?

[Andrew Schulz]

Kendrick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What shot did. He took?

[Andrew Schulz]

The first one when he was like, there's only one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think Kendrick moved on from Drake. He probably did, but, like, a long time ago. Drake is the one who hasn't been.

[Andrew Schulz]

But he's still performing. He knows he got help.

[Daphne Springs]

That that's his biggest song. So even if he moved on, we didn't. Your biggest song is tied to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

GNX got records on there that I love. And listen, not like Us is absolutely his biggest song ever. But that's because Not Like Us is one of the biggest records ever. But I'd much rather see Squabble up against the Super Bowl.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's gonna play that, too.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gotta do squad with Lupin.

[Daphne Springs]

Super bowl, play the Broccoli song. But also, you gotta do the one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Him and Szig are gonna do Luther, you know, I don't know, man. I probably wouldn't do Luther. Yeah, Luther kind of slow, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, he could make it. Listen, y' all forgetting. They could jazz it up.

[Daphne Springs]

The debate isn't whether he has amazing songs throughout his career. The debate is not whether he deserves it or not. He absolutely deserves it. So all these things are true. But if you don't play the biggest record you ever had, it's corporate interests.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think so.

[Daphne Springs]

Influencing you. And that's I. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Which is fine.

[Daphne Springs]

We all get influenced by corporations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know why? Because there's records that I know he's gonna perform that would piss off that crowd way more than not like us. We gonna be all right. When he's saying we hate popo, like, that's that right there. I know they don't want him to perform. I got like. And he did that at the last Super bowl with Dr. Dre, if I'm not mistaken. They bleeped out Popo. Yeah, when he says I hate Popo, they bleeped it out. That record right there is more risky to do than not. They don't care about him dissing no.

[Daphne Springs]

Rapper, bro, how important is your heart to you, man? That's all. You want to let Pepsi decide what you can or can't do. You work your whole life to create a career where you can write songs about whatever you want, the things that are important to you. And then Pepsi goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, but cut that shit out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think Pepsi told him that.

[Daphne Springs]

I don't think so either.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think Pepsi told him.

[Daphne Springs]

I think he's gonna play the song. I can't fathom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But if he does it. Not because the corporate told him not to.

[Daphne Springs]

Yes, it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe that.

[Daphne Springs]

Yes, it is. And it's okay to want corporate connections.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wouldn't play. I'm not even joking. I wouldn't do it.

[Daphne Springs]

You might not, but I'm saying it's okay to want corporate connections. It's okay to want these relationships. It's okay to want to build your career in that way. Drake did a great job of doing it, but now you can no longer criticize Drake for being a corporate rapper. The second you get a big corporate opportunity and the corporation tells you what you can or can't do and then you acquiesce. That's all I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, now, Kendrick might do the song four times, and if he did, that would be fire. I don't think so.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To me, I really don't.

[Daphne Springs]

The Pop out concert, he did it like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, because that show was a pop out show every single time.

[Daphne Springs]

So if he did it, Kendrick is that song. If he only did that song, Fire, the place gonna go crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like the fact that rappers are getting the opportunity to perform at super bowl halftime shows. And I like the fact that I can take these rappers performances and compare them to all time great super bowl halftime shows. Now, one of Dr. Dre's biggest records that we all love is Dre Day. He ain't do that at the Super Bowl. Why would he? It's a diss record. And that shit is fire. Bow wow wow. Yippee yo yippee. Yay. Death Row. That's just one of Dre's biggest records.

[Daphne Springs]

But it's not bigger than the other songs he of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Dre Day. Yes, it is. Dre is up there, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

It's not bigger than the other songs he played.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's up, but it's up there, though. Like Dre. Like, Dre is a classic Dr. Dre record.

[Daphne Springs]

When you think of dream, Snoop, you know what you want. You want the Chronic, bro. Let's. Let's run the Chronic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the Chronic.

[Daphne Springs]

The biggest hits on the Chronic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dre Day was one of the biggest hits on the. That was the first single off the Chronic.

[Daphne Springs]

Let me bring out the Chronic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it was Dre. The singles off the Chronic was Dre Day. Dre Day. Nothing but. No, Dre was first. Dre Day. Nothing but a G thing. Let me ride. What was the other thing?

[Daphne Springs]

Chronic. Dre Day is the first song that let me ride the day. That word I can't say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're reading the track list.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah. Nothing but a G thing. Crazy. You gotta play that shit. It's not even a question. You have to do it. Bitches ain't shit. You should probably play that one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That would have ripped. That would have went crazy at the Super Bowl. Crazy rat tat tap. Dre was a big record. All I'm simply saying is if Kendrick doesn't perform the record, I don't think it's because of corporate ninjas. I just Think that, like, why ruin this massive moment with that? That's just my.

[Daphne Springs]

Why do you think it ruins it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. It just feel like it's like you sharing your moment. See, a lot of times. Right. Like, would you diss a fellow comedian? Would you diss a comedian on your Netflix special?

[Daphne Springs]

Never.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my. That's exactly. Exactly. That's all I'm saying. Like, even if somebody. Even if you had beef with a comedian in that moment while you're doing your special, you're not gonna go out there and address.

[Daphne Springs]

But it depends. If the beef that I had with that comedian was the biggest beef in the history of comedy, I probably would have a joke about it and then I would do it in my Netflix special.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, Christian.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, that's different.

[Daphne Springs]

I'm just saying that is the difference. Like, we're talking about the biggest beef in the history of rap.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a good example Taylor used. But is just different. Like, Chris couldn't avoid that. But.

[Daphne Springs]

But that's what I'm saying. Like, it's unavoidable. It's unavoidable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm going tell you why it's different.

[Daphne Springs]

I can I just validate what you're saying is I get. I get Charlemagne's place where it's like a disc song features another rapper without them being on it, but they are tied to it no matter what. It just so happens that that disc song is the. His most popular song he's ever written. Doesn't mean it's his best. It doesn't mean that he hasn't created, like, tons of other amazing work. There's no question. But that is his most popular song.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

And choosing to not play your most popular, most recognized song in the year, that it came out at the biggest event that you'll ever. That you have performed at so far in your career. There has to be some other thing going on here. And if there was a beat that I had with a comedian, it was the biggest beef in the history of comedy. And I had a fire bit about it. You better damn believe I'm putting that shit out and I'm doing it on the biggest stage possible and I'm letting it rip.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I guess the difference between Chris Rock and Will is that we hadn't heard from Chris after the slap. That was the first time we heard from Chris since the Will Smith slap. We've heard from Kendrick. We know exactly how Kendrick feels about Drake. We've seen him perform this song at the Pop Out. We've heard not like us all over the radio. I personally don't need it at the Super Bowl. And it comes a point in time where you have to. In the 48 laws of power. He's one of the 48 laws of power. Never go past the mark you aim for in victory. He's won already.

[Daphne Springs]

Also, One of the 48 laws of power is destroy your enemy completely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but is that possible to do with somebody like Drake?

[Daphne Springs]

No, but this. I mean, having the entire world saying that at the same time is. Like you said, it's the reason why Drake is suing. It's the reason why he's being so litigious. It's like he understands the brand ramifications of that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you want him to kill himself? What you said? No, no, that's what it sounds like.

[Daphne Springs]

I like Drake.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, like you.

[Daphne Springs]

Like I like Drake.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's only one other place to go after you. Like he. You can't even. He can't even be trans. Well, man, can you still be trans? A candidate, right?

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, you can.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Yeah. You might get changed. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's. What other drastic thing could you do after this? I don't know. You want to pay? Let's pay some bills, do some asking. Idiots. Pro baller. Lonzo Ball for Buzzballs ready to go.

[Daphne Springs]

Cocktails take 12.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Buzzballs just dropped their biggest blue balls. Script says Biggie's blue balls.

[Daphne Springs]

Lonzo take 13.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blue balls just dropped their biggest buzz balls. Ugh.

[Daphne Springs]

Let's try a vocal exercise.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Buzz balls, Biggies. Blue balls. Buzz balls. Biggies. Blue balls. Big balls. Just drop.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Get this season with buzzball. Please reponsibly. Buzz ball's available in spirit, wine and malt.

[Daphne Springs]

15% alcohol by volume.

[Hezekiah Walker]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Carrollton, Texas. If you went on a road trip and you didn't stop for a big Mac or drop a crispy fry between the car seats or use your McDonald's bag as a placemat, then that wasn't a road trip. It was just a really long drive. Ba da ba ba ba. At participating McDonald's.

[Daphne Springs]

My day kicks off with a refreshing Celsius energy drink. Then straight to the gym. Pre K pickups back home to meal prep. Time for my fire station shift.

[Hezekiah Walker]

One more Celsius.

[Daphne Springs]

Gotta keep the lights on when the three alarm hits. I'm ready.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Celsius live fit.

[Daphne Springs]

Go grab a cold refreshing Celsius at your local retailer or locate [e-mail].

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let'S do some asking. Idiots. Young Taylor gang. Young Young Bun in the oven.

[Andrew Schulz]

Just let you know. They said that Trump canceled or stopped the. Or unfroze the loans freeze or whatever he was doing. Just to give you a heads up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, the judge stopped it yesterday.

[Daphne Springs]

What is that?

[Andrew Schulz]

They said the backlash.

[Daphne Springs]

Was that the.

[Andrew Schulz]

What, the loan freeze or the federal loan freeze that he was doing?

[Daphne Springs]

I don't know what that is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was doing a federal aid freeze. He just rescinded it. I can see. Yeah. Trump rescinded federal funding freeze. The Office of Management and Budget has rescinded this call for a pause on federal assistance, according to the agency's memo shared by Democracy Forward, which led a legal challenge over the effort. But the White House said that the only. That only the original memo calling for the freeze has been rescinded. Let's pay some bills. I mean, let's do asking. Idiots. Ooh. Stbnx12 says last time you had a feel good moment unrelated to work or family. Fantastic question, young man. When the last time you had a feel good moment unrelated to work or family? Schultz.

[Daphne Springs]

When I was scrolling Instagram last night, just getting emotional at all these little videos. It was incredible. I got in a nice little wormhole and I just. Yeah, made me feel all the right. Feels a lot of gratitude, a lot of appreciation. Want to call my dad, just tell him I love him and appreciate him. Yeah. So I. I had. This is a good, positive reaction to social media. That was a good, beautiful feel good moment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I have these. I have these glimmers all the time. You know, glimmers are the opposite of triggers. Right. So, you know, every now and then, and not just every now and then, a lot, A lot of times throughout the day, I just feel very, very grateful. I just be like, thank you, God. It's just gratitude. It don't have nothing to do with nothing other than being alive. It don't got nothing to do with no work, you know, the wife, the kids. I mean, eventually after you, you'll have that moment, like, man, God, I'm just thankful to be alive. Thank you, God. Happy to be alive. And then you'll start thinking about all the things that come with life, right? But for the most part, you just. I'm just happy to be breathing, like, that's it. And so I have those glimmers quite often. Cause, boy, it's a lot of people that woke up dead today. You know what I'm saying? So I wanna live this thing out. Like when you see things like, you know, rest in peace, DJ UNK having a heart attack in his sleep at 42. No drugs or nothing involved. You know what I'm saying? It's like, God damn.

[Daphne Springs]

One of these videos I watched, this guy was interviewing this little. This little kid who had cancer, and he's like, yes, something. The kid goes, well, I'm happy that God gave me the cancer. And he goes, what do you mean you're happy? He goes, well. Well, yeah, because that way he didn't give cancer to Emma or Jacob, which are his brother and sister.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow. Wow. That is very powerful. But, man, I need some peas to go with the fraggle maggot that you are. God damn. I see why you touched, but give me some peas to go with that fraggle maggot, man. Jesus Christ.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why can you not help yourself?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why would he. Nothing to me. Nobody says anything. Okay. Okay. What else we got? Earthquake. Mma. Shi. Would you rather America take over Canada or Mexico?

[Daphne Springs]

I think BofA. I think BofA. Canada's great. I love Canada, but also I love Mexico. I think we just. Well, here's the thing. I love Canada. That's the thing. I got a lot of love for Canada. Canadians are amazing people. And then Mexico is just like just the best human beings on the planet. So I really think all three of us need to come together. And I think we have a beautiful North America, and it's just the United States of America, all of us come together. And why wouldn't they both want that? It'd be amazing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? I don't see the benefit of Canada or Mexico or maybe Mexico, but I don't see the benefit of Canada being part of America. Why?

[Daphne Springs]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the. Like, somebody have to give me a logical.

[Daphne Springs]

You make a good point. Because it's like, right now we have a relationship with Canada where, like, if there are people that are incredibly successful in Canada, we'll just let them come over to America and continue that success in America and probably to a certain extent, Mexico as well. But so we don't really need to take over anything. And I don't know if they have, like, minerals or any of that kind of stuff. We're not in, like, a strategically poor situation. What?

[Chris]

Climate change.

[Daphne Springs]

What about it?

[Chris]

You don't want Mexico. You do want Canada for climate change. There's a belief in some circles that all the southern countries and cultures are gonna. Those people are gonna be forced to leave over the next 50 to 60 years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I've heard that. Because it's too hot.

[Chris]

It's too hot. So you're gonna want all that Northern Canadian, which is Gonna be the equivalent of like Pennsylvania in 60 years. Now, if you have Mexico now, you have whatever the population is and everybody south of them trying to head north.

[Daphne Springs]

You know, Mexicans, Chris.

[Chris]

Do I?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Daphne Springs]

So I see Mexicans in 100 degree weather, putting a roof on a house. They not afraid of global warming. The temperature would have to be 200 degrees Fahrenheit for them to even be like, man, we should go up north.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Give it a minute.

[Daphne Springs]

It. Nah, I'm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They not tripping.

[Daphne Springs]

They not tripping. They not tripping. You know, also, Mexicans love Mexico. That's the other thing is, like, it's not like they're coming here because they're like, oh man, I want to play baseball. There's financial opportunity here. But they love that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Probably.

[Chris]

I've never been.

[Daphne Springs]

And Americans, we love Mexico too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So think about how, like, I mean, I've been. I haven't been to Mexico. I've been to Cabo.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, that's, that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I, I can't.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, that comes with it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's true. But you know what, the thing about Mexico City.

[Daphne Springs]

Mexico City is one of the greatest cities in the history of humanity. It's absolutely, it's like top notch food, top notch culture, top notch dining. It's just incredible. It's like, go to Mexico City.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If America took over Canada, what would we get from Canada? What would Canada get from us? Because I'll take free health care.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, but they can't. They can barely give them their own people free health care.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They got it though.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, there's a lot of oil up there, so we could get some of that oil. Lots of land, like tons and tons of land that nobody's really at that. And also their vibes, Canadians are vibes. They like to get after it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's just leave shit the way it is, guys. That's fine. We don't need to take over any other country.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, but that's so un American.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I wanted to say too, Chris? You said something just now. You was talking about how hot it's going to be in six years. Don't you think humans are going to adapt? You don't think our bodies are going to change and evolve and adapt over time?

[Chris]

It depends at what rate which moves faster.

[Daphne Springs]

White people are going to get melanin. White people don't have a problem. Then what?

[Chris]

Oh, you say we're going to get.

[Daphne Springs]

We'Re going to get melanin in. We're gonna get Melaninated.

[Chris]

Nice.

[Daphne Springs]

And then what? Then what do we get to do? Nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shut up, man. Go to the sale.

[Daphne Springs]

I'm just saying, once we got the melanin, there's really no stopping us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even when I lose.

[Daphne Springs]

What's that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Poc.

[Daphne Springs]

Exactly. We're people of color, too. Once we get melanin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ah, please.

[Daphne Springs]

I'm telling you. Watch out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have fun with.

[Daphne Springs]

Have fun with the little words you can say for the next 20, 30 years. Once it's global. Why do you think white people want global warming so much? So we could get melaninated. So we could get that N word back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You'll see. With just be pigment on crackers. Listen, even when I lose, I win. Even when I lose, I win. Says, if they could pick each other's weaknesses while being a superhero, what would it be? Ooh.

[Daphne Springs]

If they could pick each other's weaknesses.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

While being a superhero, what would it be?

[Daphne Springs]

So what if. Wait, what? Break it down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If we were superheroes and we could pick each other's weaknesses.

[Daphne Springs]

Oh. Like, how do I attack you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. What would it be?

[Daphne Springs]

Kindness. I would just be so nice to you and you wouldn't know what to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't. I really don't.

[Daphne Springs]

That's your kryptonite.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is. No, it really is. I really don't. I'd be like, what the fuck? You trying to line me up? You being so nice.

[Daphne Springs]

Exactly, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you're absolutely right. Mine would be anal. You know what I'm saying? Don't you think it'll be funny? Like, that's the thing, right?

[Daphne Springs]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Imagine we're not talking about.

[Hezekiah Walker]

You gotta do it then.

[Daphne Springs]

You gotta do it to me then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yay. You wanna. Charlotte, time out. Do you wanna.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I'm trying to tell us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you wanna save the world or not? 10 years, bro.

[Daphne Springs]

But that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So if you had to go up Thanos ass to save the world, you wouldn't do it.

[Hezekiah Walker]

But you get to pick. Pick how you can save the world. Why are you picking that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For the same reason they do it in prison. I'm embarrassed the fuck out of you. You come over here trying to fucking take our planet over you and ass within all these universes.

[Andrew Schulz]

You don't want to fuck them, though.

[Daphne Springs]

I thought we'd talk about each other. By the way, what would you. What's my opinion?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way? Yeah, Nobody said I had to fuck him. I'm just saying. No, I'm just saying.

[Daphne Springs]

Why is my weakness anal? You don't even know if I like it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or not.

[Daphne Springs]

You wouldn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my point.

[Daphne Springs]

I don't know. I might.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why I should.

[Daphne Springs]

I never tried it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If he gets something up his ass.

[Daphne Springs]

Ass, maybe I like it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how you take him out.

[Daphne Springs]

Maybe I enjoy that. I don't know yet. I haven't tried it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm picking the weakness, though. So I get to pick the weakness and say, this is his weakness. So you gotta go in his ass to take him out?

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, you gotta go in his ass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you just gotta.

[Hezekiah Walker]

You gotta defeat the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta get in there and press the button. There's a button inside that? No, it's like the G spot. Right?

[Daphne Springs]

That's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did he say? What's the shit in American Pie?

[Hezekiah Walker]

His prostate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Prostate. Boom. So I gotta get in his ass. Get the pro now. What was that? Remember on Endgame when they was like, why didn't this guy.

[Daphne Springs]

Is this what it feels like when you see white people with cornrows? You're like, why'd they have to take it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, man, listen.

[Daphne Springs]

Is this what it feels like?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your weakness is in your anus. I gotta get in your ass, hit your prostate. That's how I take you out.

[Chris]

It was like, achilles Anus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Achilles Anus. That's the name of the podcast. Okay. Can you imagine? Imagine, like, you think about your favorite superhero. Forget Shultz. Think about Batman. Think about Captain America.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I don't want to see none of them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get. Imagine somebody trying to get in they ass to stop them. Ant man shrinks. Climb up the leg rose, climbs up your leg, gets in your cheeks, and then turns into big Ant man and.

[Daphne Springs]

Captain America clutching the shield.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, man, think about it. And then on Captain America, he's like, that's America's ass. That's what they used to say, right?

[Daphne Springs]

America's ass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's how we get them anal. Let's do a couple more. Taylor, Why y' all ask us questions if y' all don't want the answers to? This is so crazy.

[Daphne Springs]

You don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then when I give the answer, y' all judge them. Oh, this is a good one. James Daffer. James Daffer says Canelo or Crawford. Who you got? Schultz.

[Daphne Springs]

Canelo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's at 160.

[Daphne Springs]

Canelo. It's not even close. With all due respect to Crawford, it's not. It's Canelo. It's not even close.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I mean, I agree. I love Terence Crawford. And see, here's my hesitation with this. Last time I bet against Terence Crawford, he Chose you. He made me look like a goddamn fool. You know what I'm saying? He missed Earl. Oh, my God. Because you got to think I've been saying this. I've been talking about the Earl Spence Crawford fight for years. I've been telling people Earl going to beat Crawford for years. And when Crawford came to the Breakfast Club to promote the fight, and I told Bud, I'm like, you know, I gotta go with Earl. I think Earl gonna do you dirty. Yeah, he beat the shit outta Earl. Salute to Earl. Love Earl. He came to the Breakfast Club the next week and sat in the throne that we had in there. What I'm gonna do, tailboy? Get up like. No, you earned it. You did. And even if you didn't earn it, I'm not gonna tell you to get the fuck up. My point is, he didn't look the greatest at 154.

[Daphne Springs]

I think he's probably pound for pound, the best, but I think he's stretching.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a. It's. Come on, you're going up three weight.

[Daphne Springs]

Class weight classes there for a reason. Now there's. There's also part of me. It's like, yo, Bud, make your money. I'm gonna buy the fight. I'm gonna watch the fight. Get all your money. And I want Canelo to get his money. Like, I want these guys to make all the money in the world. But there are weight classes in boxing for a reason. If they were fighting at 147 and Canelo was a smaller guy, and who knows, maybe that's a different situation. My concern is, I don't know if Bud can hurt Canelo at 168.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think Canelo can hurt Bud, though, just because Bud is a tough.

[Daphne Springs]

No, no, no. There's no question he's tough, but Canelo has knocked out 175 pounders. Knocked him out clean out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm with you.

[Daphne Springs]

You know, there's weight classes for a reason in boxing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And when Bud fought at 154 his last fight, he didn't look as slick as he usually looks. I don't know if he can look as slick at 168.

[Daphne Springs]

Did he hurt the guy at 154?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Daphne Springs]

So it's like, if you're not hurting a 154 pound guy, I don't think you're hurting a guy who has fought. I mean, hasn't Canelo fought at 175?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Canelo fought. He fought.

[Daphne Springs]

No, no. Bivol was 168.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right. Hold on. No, he went up to, like, light heavyweight. Hold on.

[Daphne Springs]

I think at one point he did go up to light heavy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, he was light heavyweight. Canelo fought at light heavyweight. Cause the guy beat him close to Bivol.

[Daphne Springs]

But I thought Bivol was a 168 guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll tell you right now. He is at. Yeah, he fought two fights at light heavyweight. He fought Kovalov in 2019, knocked him out. And that was at 175. And then he fought. He had bivel in 2022.

[Daphne Springs]

So he's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that was with a super light heavyweight title. And Bivo Bivol, he won the fight on points. And listen, that was one of those fights that I watched. And I'm like, yo, Canelo is a bad motherfucker, bro. Cause he not even supposed to be in there with somebody that big. And dude couldn't knock him out. That was a good. Like, it was a good little squad, but.

[Daphne Springs]

And then Kovalev, who was absolutely crushing people. I don't know if you guys remember that. Like, he was on a tear. And then Canelo knocked him out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Living for real. Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

And locked him out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Division world champion late in a fight.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, listen, a lot of people got knockout power for the first few rounds. Knocked him out late in the fight. Coming up to 175.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

175. That's what I'm saying, man. I love. I love Bud. Bud is a beast. And I think it'll be a pretty decent squabble. I just don't think he can beat Canelo at 160.

[Daphne Springs]

No, that. This is no criticism of Bud. Like, Bud is one of my favorite fighters. It's not. He's unbelievable. Truly unbelievable. What he did to Arrow, I mean, was mindboggling, like. And this guy's been an underdog his entire life. There's no question that he believes he can do it. But I am a boxing fan since before I could walk. There are weight divisions for a reason.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I do hear that Bud walks around at, like, 170 great. You know what I'm saying? He walks around at like, 170 great. But I don't know. I got Canelo, but Bud has definitely proved me wrong before. Bud's a tough motherfucker. He's one of the best to ever do it. I don't know.

[Daphne Springs]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I'm still picking Canelo. Ed Fluffy, would you ever do an action comedy movie together? Yes.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah. We gonna cook some stuff up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wanna do a parody of Training Day.

[Daphne Springs]

But what.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I haven't thought of it to pass that, but I want to do a. I just want to do a party and training day. I think that'd be hilarious. All right, you know, let's do one more. Taylor, pick a good one, man. Let's see. Anything else? Juan Carlos says, who'd be the first one deported from the Brilliant idiots crew? Easy call, Chris. Yeah, thank.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Come on.

[Daphne Springs]

You should be gone already.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's not because you want him gone.

[Daphne Springs]

You got two little anchor babies. Think that's gonna keep you? You going home, Chris. Chris, you going home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't want them gone. We just have our suspicions. Could be a Chinese spy. You know what I mean? Like, we don't know.

[Daphne Springs]

I saw him blowing up them balloons.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying? I don't know.

[Daphne Springs]

Remember when he came out here all out of breath? He blamed it on Lyme disease.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

He was outside blowing up those spy balloons, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We gonna lose Alex soon, Al.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Nah, I'm good, Al. I'm good.

[Daphne Springs]

You not lying about being Puerto Rican.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I'm friends with Derek Jeter.

[Daphne Springs]

I'm good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, no, no. Ain't about being Puerto Rican when he marries his girlfriend. Oh, oh, yo.

[Chris]

Oh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If she go, you gotta go with her. Fact ex. If you. No, no, no, no, no. If you a girl get supported, you got to go with her. Alex.

[Hezekiah Walker]

This we could do long distance. I could face.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, Right.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I love you, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who, me?

[Hezekiah Walker]

No, I got the illumination in case she listening.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say it in her native tongue.

[Hezekiah Walker]

But she got a.

[Daphne Springs]

This.

[Andrew Schulz]

Te amo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Te amo, bitch. All right, listen, as always. Oh, no. You want to end on this one? Let's do it. Justin FM 83. Who are standouts for leadership of both parties for the next election? I'm assuming he's talking about presidential election, since we are the two greatest political bodies of a generation. This is a great question. You want in on this, Chris? Yeah.

[Chris]

I don't know if I have an answer, but, I mean, the clip you sent me with AOC and Jon Stewart. I like what you were saying. I don't think she's a viable presidential candidate, but I like her energy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fantastic pod Jon Stewart and AOC did together. Fantastic, fantastic, fantastic.

[Daphne Springs]

I gotta go. Listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, who do you think. Who are some standouts for leadership of both parties for the next election? Cause both of them Democrats definitely need new leadership.

[Chris]

I think Vance is in a good position.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Vance is in a good position unless Trump decides to do another term.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, I don't know. I gotta Learn more about Vance.

[Chris]

I don't know, but he's young. I never realized how young he is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not gonna matter who the leader of the Republican Party is, because it's gonna be an ideology that's been set. If they do things like I think they're gonna do, like get rid of the filibuster and pass all the legislation that they want, it's gonna take a generation to change that shit. So it's not even going to matter who the leader is.

[Daphne Springs]

But now we back in the same problem that we were at with the Democrats, where it becomes an ideology, and then the characters within it or the players within it can't actually present their ideas if they go against the ideology.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like the Republican way now.

[Daphne Springs]

Yeah, but what I'm saying is, I don't want that. Like, I'm fine with Trump coming in, shaking things up, doing things differently, but then the next person has to have their own opinions, their own belief.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree with you, but that's not happening, not in the era of it.

[Daphne Springs]

Well, hopefully Americans vote for that if.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We have a free and fair election next time. Y' all are really having some. Y' all are really talking like, we still in the same old normal America. Democrat leadership. Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

Who do you think?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, there's two ways to answer this question. I feel like we don't need any of the current establishment Democrats doing the same old Democrat shit. I don't think that that will connect with people at all. I think that Barack Obama was the Steph Curry of Democratic politics. Meaning that he came in and shot from the logo, changed the way everybody plays. And everybody's tried to play like him, but they're not him. And it's not.

[Chris]

Andre Young's not gonna work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Trae Young ain't going War and Trey Young, good players, but they not Steph Curry.

[Daphne Springs]

You gotta be somebody from outside the party.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's gotta be somebody that changes the party. Like Bill Clinton changed the party. Like Obama came along and changed the party. Now, do I think that they have some good guys? Yes. And I think Josh Shapiro is fantastic. I like Governor Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania. I like Governor Gretchen Whitman in Michigan. I don't know if they'll put a woman at the top of the ticket anytime soon. I don't think that's gonna happen.

[Daphne Springs]

I think a star Joe's really my tool. I think a star needs to emerge. I think they'll come from outside the party.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gotta come from outside the party.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I like Wes Moore. He's dope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like Wes I like Wes. Wes is my guy. I do like Wes. I like Wes as a person, and I do like what he's doing in Maryland. But once again, somebody has to break the establishment Democrat mold. You can't do the same old shit that Democrats have been doing since 2008. I'm telling you, Barack Obama was the best and worst thing to happen to the Democratic Party. Best. Yeah. Yeah.

[Daphne Springs]

That's an interesting. That's an interesting point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a bar.

[Daphne Springs]

He is the best because he was so incredibly skilled, but he set a standard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He set a standard. And by the way, don't think Republicans aren't going to be in this same boat when Trump decides he doesn't want to be doing it anymore.

[Daphne Springs]

Well, it depends if you have the money. That's the thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you mean?

[Daphne Springs]

Muscle this dick in your mouth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

As always. Listen to this podcast. You think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiot Podcast. Thank you for listening.