A**Lighters Anonymous (Ft. Donnell Rawlings & Jivanta Roberts)

Summary

The Brilliant Idiots: “ALighters Anonymous” (Ft. Donnell Rawlings & Javanta Roberts)
September 5, 2025**

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Episode Overview

This episode features Charlamagne Tha God and special guest host Javanta Roberts, with returning guest Donnell Rawlings and crew member Adrian. The animated and hilarious session dives deep into issues of trust, relationships (professional and personal), comedy culture, internet drama, and personal growth, all laced with the signature banter and arguments that define the show. With Javanta’s voice adding fresh perspective and Donnell’s chaotic humor, the conversation explores everything from interpersonal dynamics and comedy’s changing landscape to viral news and financial advice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Javanta Roberts: Name, Background & Donnell’s Shaky “Co-Host Energy”

• Javanta’s Resume: Brooklyn-born actress, creative director, producer, co-host of The Donnell Rawlings Show, and star on “Beauty and Black.”
• Running Joke—Name Mixups: Charlamagne repeatedly mispronounces “Javanta,” prompting light-hearted (and not so light-hearted) banter.
  • “Why is your name so difficult for me? It’s Hindi? It means to give life? Ooh.” – Charlamagne (04:13)
• Donnell’s Introduction Lapses: Charlamagne and Donnell spar over who’s responsible for introducing Javanta to the audience, highlighting Donnell’s tendency to keep his circle close but low-profile.
  • “You didn’t introduce your amazing co-host…” — Charlamagne (03:11)
  • “I don’t claim her.” — Donnell Rawlings, on-camera denial (10:50) (jokingly)

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2. Comedy: Generations, Platforms, and “Asslighting”

• Old School vs New School Comedy: Donnell gripes about physical pranks and newer comedic tropes (like those seen on Kai Cenat or TikTok), sees them as less “his brand.”
  • “Everything ain’t funny, man. For a comedian… That’s not my brand of comedy, son.” — Donnell (14:29)
• Chappelle Show Legacy & Comic “Redemption”: Donnell discusses returning to “Kill Tony” after online criticism/petitions to ban him, and how internet feedback (positive and negative) shapes a comic’s journey.
  • “If you’re explaining, you’re losing.” — Charlamagne (27:28)
  • “I’m not a gimmick.” — Donnell (28:31)
• “Asslighting”: Charlamagne invents the term during a debate about whether August Alsina’s story arc and sexuality influence perceptions of his music.
  • “No, I’m not. Somebody Google called asslighting. I’m asslighting you. I’m asslighting you right, right now.” — Charlamagne (20:09)

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3. Relationships, Trust & Personal Growth

• Donnell’s Trust Issues: Recurring jokes about Donnell’s inability (or reluctance) to trust, with frequent psychoanalysis from Charlamagne and input from Javanta.
  • “You play too much, but you can never be in a relationship... Your first, last and best love is self love, Nana.” — Charlamagne (35:13)
  • "I don't really need to trust. I'm never gonna trust him.” — Donnell (35:03)
• Building the “Raw Edge Collective”: Javanta and Donnell discuss their shared vision for collaborative projects beyond traditional management—lifting as they climb, highlighting real friendship in entertainment.
  • “If I could make one phone call and be like, 'Look out for my peoples.'” — Donnell (37:11)
  • “He’s been like a dad to me… he’s such a hard worker… we forget how hard Donnell goes.” — Javanta (59:54)

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4. Comedy, Killing Dreams, and Bombing Onstage

• Javanta’s Brief Stand-Up Stint: Open discussion about her “failure” (with teachable honesty and humor) in stand-up, and how Donnell’s tough love shaped her perspective.
  • “If you are crying right now, you should quit and never do it again.” — Donnell (46:39)
  • Impressions about women in comedy and club culture (“don’t talk about your looks,” “the ugly [girls] get mad”).
  • “I cried that night because no one laughed.” — Javanta (43:25)
• Comedy Ethics: The “art of the bomb” and what it teaches, especially when working with emerging talent.

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5. Black Social Media, Virality & Cultural Shifts

• Viral News & Public Narratives:
  • August Alsina’s relationship and online speculation.
  • The Young Thug/Gunna drama—focus on street versus music industry values, the waning power of “no-snitch” culture, and praise for 21 Savage’s wisdom.
    • “Only thing I’ll say about this situation is that young Thug has become a victim of an environment that he created.” — Charlamagne (73:04)
• The Byron Allen Discussion: Rare props for Byron Allen’s business moves and quiet power in Black media ownership.
  • “He had business swag… He bought the Weather Channel.” — Donnell (64:58)

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6. Generational Comedy Debate: Drewski vs. Key & Peele vs. Chappelle’s Show

• Changing Platforms: Is Drewski the new king of sketch—better than the Key & Peele duo? The group debates internet vs. TV sketch platforms, raw talent, and cultural reach.
  • “I personally never found Key and Peele funny… Drewski is the greatest sketch comedian of this generation.” — Charlamagne (80:05)
  • “If Drewski had the opportunity to do what Key & Peele did, he’d be great.” — Donnell (83:10)

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7. Personal Anecdotes, Relationships & Life Lessons

• Failed Engagements & Red Flags: Javanta shares on ending an engagement, choosing self-respect, and trusting intuition.
  • “There were some red flags that I ignored because I always see the greatness in people.” — Javanta (101:40)
• Financial Responsibility & Wealth:
  • Donnell, Charlamagne, and the crew share personal takes on money mistakes, saving, and protecting your future.
    • “Stop treating your money like it’s on fire in your pocket and you just gotta get it out.” — Charlamagne (107:34)

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8. Wild Questions & Listener “Asking Idiots” Segment

• Fun, Random Questions:
  • Sex with the prettiest girl in the world if she had no thumbs? Inverted nipples? (95:30–97:39)
  • Is social media the new Bible? – The team concludes social media is many people’s "religion," shaping behavior and beliefs, but it won’t replace the Good Book (93:22–94:29).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trust and Friendship
  • “The reason you have a lack of love and trust for others is because you don’t really have that with yourself the way you should.” — Charlamagne (35:20)
• On Legacy in Comedy
  • “Nothing will ever surpass Chappelle Show and what we did on Chappelle Show. But I can appreciate what Key and Peele did, too.” — Donnell (84:33)
• On Growth and Criticism
  • “If you’re explaining, you’re losing.” — Charlamagne (27:28)
• On Giving Opportunities
  • “If I could make one phone call… the same thing with Adrian. I’ll give you another example of the patience…” — Donnell (37:11)
• Miscellaneous Banter
  • “Why is your name so difficult for me? It’s Hindi? It means to give life? Ooh.” — Charlamagne (04:13)
  • “I quit for a reason. I could produce a comedy show. Better dance. Yeah, Lampy, better. D. I ain’t trying to kill no dreams.” — Javanta & Donnell (45:52)
  • “You a thorny instinct, man.” — Charlamagne (26:47)

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Important Timestamps (MM:SS)

• 04:13 — Javanta’s name meaning and heritage
• 10:50 — Donnell disclaiming he “claims” his co-host (jokingly)
• 14:29 — Donnell on new generation comedy (“not my brand”)
• 27:28 — “If you’re explaining, you’re losing.” – Core lesson on public perception
• 35:20 — Charlamagne on love and trust
• 38:51 — Donnell describes assembling his creative collective and Yellow Springs days
• 46:39 — Donnell’s tough-love advice on stand-up bombing
• 73:04 — Young Thug/Gunna/21 Savage, changing “street” values
• 80:05 — Drewski vs. Key & Peele debate
• 93:22 — Social media as “the new Bible?”
• 107:34 — Charlamagne’s father’s advice on saving money

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode is a whirlwind of irreverent, raw humor and deep vulnerability—equal parts roast and real talk. The crew model what it means to support friends honestly, push each other, and laugh through insecurity and change. The generational bridge in comedy, new media trends, and Black cultural narratives are dissected with relatable storytelling (and signature chaos). It’s a must-listen for fans of unfiltered conversation and anyone interested in how today’s cultural leaders process fame, friendship, and legacy.

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Guest Highlights

• Javanta Roberts: TV/beauty personality, entrepreneur (“Uni” fragrance), mom, new BET series debuting.
• Donnell Rawlings: Touring comic, Kill Tony returnee, creative mentor, and comic “thorns.”
• Adrian: Donnell’s team, Kill Tony standout.

Closing Thought:
As always, if you listen to this podcast and think they’re smart, intelligent, or just idiots—you’re right too.

Transcript

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Learn [e-mail] Yep. Charlamagne tha got we are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Hezekiah Walker is in Australia doing Street Fighter. But we have a special requested guest co host that people were asking to be here. Ladies and gentlemen, Javante Roberts. Did I say it wrong?

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Javanta.

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Javanta. Javanta Roberts. I'm sorry. Javanta Roberts is a Brooklyn born actress. They say you're a creative director, a producer, TV personality and entrepreneur. You have a degree in merchandising and marketing from Johnson and Wales University. Wow. And you began your first stream of work on Nick and Disney.

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Yeah.

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Wow. And you're on Beauty and Black now.

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Yeah.

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And you have a co host of a podcast.

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Yes.

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What's the name of the podcast?

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It is called the Donna Rollins show.

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But it's the Javante. The Javante Roberts.

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Javanta.

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Javanta. Fuck Javanta.

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I can call you J, I V A N T. What's your nickname? Jj.

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JJ yeah. I'm not there with you yet.

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No, you're not there with me.

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Okay.

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Javanta.

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Javanta. Javanta. Nice to bring Donnell Rawlings with you. Hi, Darnell. Hi. How are you, sir? You know what's going on?

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I don't feel good about the energy in this room right now.

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Well, I think it's amazing Javanta is here. That's what matters.

[C]

Javanta's here. But you knew everything. You gave her all her. All her resume and everything.

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You know why? Cause you didn't. Because I met her earlier today when she came on Breakfast Club. You just walked in the room with her, didn't say nothing. She introduced herself, didn't even know she had this amazing resume of until she had to say it herself. But you supposed to be her peoples.

[C]

All right, first of all, it's called the collective, and the Collective is collaborated thoughts. And we might not do things exactly how you want them. And this is the part where you start to be controlling. You never gave me an opportunity to establish me in the show. And you wanted to be.

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They know you. You're established. You're Donnell Rawlings.

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Okay, but that's what I'm saying is that's not how we operate. That's not how we were operating. Who you wanted us, the Collective.

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Don't you think when somebody walks in the room, you walk in the room with a person. You've never been in a room. The person that's been in the room, she introduced you to the room, right? Wow.

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Traditionally, yes.

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Yes, traditionally.

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Traditionally, yes.

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Yes. And you didn't do that. And then.

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No, you didn't do that. That has nothing to do with me. You didn't do that. I just introduced her to our audience. Off top. You're established. They know you. They. They may not be familiar with Javante. Javanta. Javante.

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Javanta.

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Javanta. Why is your name so difficult for me? I do not know why? Javanta. Javanta. I've never heard a name like that, by the way.

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It's Hindi. It means to give life.

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Ooh. Javanta. Why you with him?

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There's an acronym. There's an acronym that the YNs use and I never thought it would ever be fitting until today. It's called POS that wasn't from the.

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Y. NS See, that's the price. I want to give the young people credit. Pos that has not some young people.

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Pos and I don't. You're a piece of shit. Wow. You are. Wow.

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Why you don't. Cause I introduced your amazing co host to people and you didn't. But I'm the POS it's always laced.

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With some type of sarcasm.

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What? What Are you talking about.

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It's always something.

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She has a light. So now that I know her name means what? Full of life.

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To give life.

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Yeah, to give life. I feel that.

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But this is why you're a piece of shit. Because you know, you're trying. You know what? You're trying to trigger me.

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How am I trying to trigger you? By introducing your co host?

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No, you're trying to trigger me, son. You know you trying to trigger me, son. You do a good job of it, all right? But enough is enough.

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What is he. What is he talking. Does he even know what he's talking about?

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I do.

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Tell me. Tell me. Explain.

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Explain what I'm trying to explain to him.

[B]

I think you guys just really need to just hug it out.

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He doesn't like affection. He doesn't like love. The only man I come up with.

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Affection, but I don't want it from you.

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The only human with a penis that he'll hug is his son. And I understand why. That's your son.

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Yeah. But I don't.

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Have you ever hugged Dave? Have Dave ever. Have Dave ever hugged you and said, nana, I love you? I appreciate it?

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It wasn't.

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No, I value you.

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Three Mississippis. Was it one? Was it one Mississippi?

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That's good.

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That's all you can ever do.

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But I mean, was it a real hug? Like a real embrace?

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It was a one Mississippi.

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Yeah. And what did he say when he hugged you?

[C]

I didn't know these dudes, but I know they was gay. He was like, I don't know. We just.

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I love you. Have you ever told him you love him? This has to stop. Yo, why? Why do you have to be like this?

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No, I not love you with the verse, but love, men don't sell. Why? Why you?

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Why, Javonte?

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No, I'm just saying, you tell men I love you.

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Yes. If I love you and I value you and I appreciate you, I'm gonna tell you that because you never know.

[C]

So you're saying I love you?

[A]

Yes. I love you, King.

[C]

Nah, I love you.

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You said it. He said he just told you he loved you.

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Darnell knows I love him. I do love Donnell.

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Love.

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Man, you need to grow up. You need to grow up.

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LA is different than love.

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Why didn't you introduce her properly to people? Why are you trying to hide her from the world?

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No, I wasn't. And here's the thing, okay? Introducing Javanta Roberts. All right, we've known each other for a very, very, very long time.

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I've listened to podcasts. I'VE seen clips. I've never seen you on any of this stuff.

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You don't do watch House.

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That's not true. That's not true.

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During the height of the pandemic, even.

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When he calls me on the podcast, he never goes, I'm in here with my co host.

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Because the times that I've called you lately for the podcast, she wasn't there.

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Why weren't you there? Oh, you got an acting career?

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Yeah, I have my own career.

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She's on Beauty and Black.

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She doing a good job.

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She produce television.

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You see what I'm saying?

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Produced some spots for the super bowl earlier this year.

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See you trying to with. Why?

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What is your problem? You ain't got to be happy for your people, yo.

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No, but, yes, you produce.

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What spots did you produce for the Super Bowl?

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So it's called the Super Bowl Soulful Celebration. And it happens right before the Super Bowl.

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I remember that.

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Yeah. So I did that.

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That was on. What network was that on this year?

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We had it on Fox. The year prior was on cbs. Thank you.

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Well, if you've never listened to try.

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To fuck with me, son, why should this bother you?

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It's on.

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You should be happy.

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Yo. Look at you, son.

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Look at me what?

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You like you doing this? You like this? Ooh.

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Am I doing something wrong, Javanta.

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No.

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Am I saying it right now?

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You're saying my name wrong.

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It's Javante.

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Javanta.

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Javanta.

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You'll get it right by the end of the day.

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Javanta. Javanta. Javanta. Am I doing something wrong, Javanta?

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No.

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Exactly. What's up with him?

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He's okay.

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I just. God, I just don't trust him.

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What you mean?

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I mean, I just.

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You don't trust yourself. That's your problem. Scorned.

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Can you just tell him you're sorry? Just apologize.

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About what? I'm scorned. Apologize.

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Why are you scoring, Donnell?

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I deal with trauma.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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And what is the biggest trauma that you've had from him?

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That plays way too much.

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Javanta. Don't listen to him.

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No, no. The nigga play too much. Okay, Right. And he.

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Can you say nigga? Javanta.

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I can say it.

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You can?

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Yeah.

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I'm just making sure. I don't know. I don't.

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What do you. What you mean? I said Trini. What you mean?

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Oh, you. Trini. Okay. Yes. Trinity.

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Trinidad.

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Amazing.

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I don't give black. I don't give black.

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Oh, you do. Well, you give. I don't give.

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My mom's Indian. My dad's Black.

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Boom.

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All right, so you can say nig.

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No, no, Trinidadians are just. We're black.

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You have an amazing Kentucky Fried Chicken.

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Yes, we do.

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My nanny that's been with us for a long time is Trinidadian. Amazing person.

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So you already know you like doubles and roti.

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Ooh, yes, indeed. I don't know what the doubles is.

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But I like curry chicken.

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All that doubles, yo, Over. Hold on. Ooh. Over Ro.

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Roti slap.

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I know.

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Are you crazy? Not no roti slap over double roti. What is double?

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No, I couldn't.

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I'm saying. Ooh. And you only know what a double is?

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No, I was saying that for the roti.

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What is a double, Donnell? Feels like you putting extras on it. That's what this is.

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Yes, you dope.

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I met you earlier. You only told a little bit of your story on Breakfast Club. Cause Donnell didn't introduce you.

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Ooh, for roti.

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Roti slap.

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Come on.

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You don't like roti.

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I do, but now I love roti. Ooh.

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Yo, I want some ro be right now.

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Your cheek was jumping. You don't supposed to be like, oh, that's like, girl, you gonna love my chicken. I know that's right.

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Ooh, roti is fire, bro.

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Did she say roti?

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Oh.

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Ooh, not the roach. That's the extra that I'm talking about.

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What is extra? I'm doing for your co host what you don't do. This is how you celebrate your peoples.

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Donnell, you know how you celebrate your people. How we talked about it earlier, but you didn't let me get word in. It's creating platforms for people to see what they've been doing for a long time.

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Or when you're on platform, you shout them out.

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Listen, I don't claim her.

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Did he shout you out on Kill Tony? Has he ever shouted you out on Kill Tony?

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No, I only went to one. I was in the audience.

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That's all it takes is one.

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No, but Donnell, like I said earlier today, Donnell, he has his ways of supporting and putting people on. And. And it doesn't have to be broadcasted or showed. And so many people has benefited from just him being a part of his life. Adrian. Adrian is one of them. Adrian Washington.

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Salute to Adrian.

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I mean, a bunch of other comics.

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You and Adrian.

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No, Marshall Brandon. Marshall Brandon's on tour with. With Dave Chappelle right now.

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I don't know who that is.

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Okay, Marshall Brandon, But I'm just saying.

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That this is what I know.

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It's not show, buddy.

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Let me say this. This is what I'm trying to explain.

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Okay?

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This is what I was saying earlier, right?

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What?

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You're a piece of shit.

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Why? I'm asking questions.

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You know what you're doing.

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No, I don't. I'm introducing people to javanta. Javanta.

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Get that? Javanta.

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Javanta.

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Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, Javanta.

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Javanta. Yes. So javanta. Here on this show, we start off by doing something called All Memes Matter.

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Okay?

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And what we do is we pull up, like, the latest memes, things that people are talking about, and we comment on it.

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Okay?

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Okay. Do y' all have something like this on the Donnell Rollins podcast?

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We freestyle. You know what I mean? We don't really have too much structure.

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No structure. Story of Donnell's life. Kim Kardashian pulls up the Kai Sinetz mafia thon scream. Let's watch. What exactly is this clip?

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Ooh, is that the roadie?

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Ooh, that's the roadie. Dondell. Let's play this game, baby.

[C]

That's the roadie. That's the goddamn roadie.

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Let's play this game. Would you ever play this game that Kai plays? Show them the game, Dondo. We gotta get to the ad. This is the game they play where somebody puts the helmet on and they turn their back to the crowd and hold up. Watch it. He says no right up the watch. I got a feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night. That tonight's gonna be a good night.

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Oh.

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Oh, no. Damn. We can't.

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I just, like, probably don't get it, though.

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You want to go?

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No, no, no.

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I'm saying.

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I just.

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Oh, that's why. She guessed it. Okay, okay, okay. We're not going to. We're not going to do Kim.

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You got to pick some assistance here. So you.

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Okay. Are we not going to do Kim? So I'll sit down. Okay. Okay, W's. Let's play this. Don. They wear a helmet and then they put them back to the crowd and they hit him with those foam noodles. But then just now, Kim hit him with a table.

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Oh, my God.

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You wouldn't play that?

[C]

No. That's not interesting to me.

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Why not?

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I just. No.

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What do you mean?

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I just wouldn't play that game.

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Why?

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Cause I would probably start a fight. Why? You just hit me in the head with a goddamn whole wall.

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It's a joke, though.

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Like, everything ain't funny, man.

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For a comedian.

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Nah, everything. Everything is not for.

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I don't like Dark Donnell as he. When you come in here with Dark Donnell, don't come in here with dark. Donnell, yo, come in here light. Let's bring in this. If you want to laugh and joke, don't come in here dark. Thon L. Okay. Shitting on the new generation. How they do comedy.

[C]

Stop this.

[A]

That's exactly what you just did. You just said that shit ain't funny.

[C]

I said.

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What you mean you just said that? You just said that.

[C]

Can't believe he did it.

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You were just like, yo, they not funny. Why?

[C]

They're not even a basketball.

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Why?

[C]

That was so smart.

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Why would them. Why would I. I did not say.

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I got a problem with this generation of comedians.

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Yes, you just said that.

[C]

I said that.

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Nobody heard him say that but me.

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I said. I said that shit ain't funny to me, son. That's not.

[A]

That's exactly my point. I thought it was hilarious. Did you think it was hilarious, Alex?

[C]

I thought it was hilarious.

[A]

I thought it was hilarious. Did you find it funny?

[B]

It was hilarious.

[A]

You're who matters, huh?

[B]

It was, I think, a little immature, but it's like they're kids. Yeah, but it was a real table.

[A]

Eh? It's like. You know what it reminds me of? It reminds me of like back in the day. You ever used to watch Jackass?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes. It's stuff like that that's funny, okay?

[C]

But that's not my brand of comedy, son.

[A]

What's your brand of comedy? Dark.

[C]

Bust some motherfuckers in the head without half a house. I'm just saying that's never gonna be funny to me. It's funny to them. Some people like it.

[A]

The world is filled with people that.

[C]

Like the watch motherfuckers get hit in the head with shit.

[A]

Go to a topic Donnell cares about. Where's my guy? August, Alsina. August, Alsina boyfriend reacts to grooming allegations. August, Alsina's boyfriend. What's his name? I am Lazou. That's his name. I am Lazul. He said, this is my first and only time addressing this. I don't give a fuck about any external validation whatsoever. I don't need anyone's likeness. But I'm a grown ass man with his own mind and free will. If I ever do anything, it's because I want to do it. I. I met August when I was already of age and an adult. August didn't even know me when I was 16 or 17. Not sure where that came from. Yeah, there's a slight age difference, but y' all pick and choose who to judge when it comes to that. We will have known each other for five years toward the end of the year. So he's speaking in future terms because that's what we plan to make it. I know I'm not an Internet person, and I prioritize my peace before anything, and I protect my relationship because the media at times can seep in and tarnish beautiful dynamics. August is my boyfriend, and we're happy with each other. Simple. But I can see how being quiet and trying to protect something of value to you can allow some people to spin the narrative and create a bunch of different scenarios which aren't true. August gives me a great in capital letters, G, R, E, H, T Life, and I'm thankful. What y' all don't know is that I run this relationship. I call the shots. August just shows up and supports me in whatever I want to do. He supports my dream. He is a dream in capital letters. Nothing is ever forced on either end. Hope this clears up any confusion. Stay fly. Salute to August and salute to zoom. August is your favorite R and B artist.

[C]

I love August. Alsina. That's a good.

[A]

You used to call him a lot.

[C]

Oh, yeah. We used to communicate. We still talk every once in a while. I look at him as like, little nephew or little son. He's a good guy. It's the funny thing about the Internet. It's like everybody thinks they're privy to your life and think that they could comment and tell you how you're supposed to live. This motherfucker's open. He's free. He's not hiding anything.

[A]

Was he. I mean, was he ever. I don't. Was he ever.

[C]

Look at me when I say that. He's not hiding anything.

[A]

I don't think you're hiding nothing else. I never thought anything. I never thought you was hiding. Too late.

[C]

I mean, he's living his truth.

[A]

Yes, he is.

[C]

He's living his truth.

[A]

So let me ask you a question. Was he hiding something before?

[C]

No, I just.

[A]

Cause he never made a formal announcement like.

[C]

No, it was spelled people that. And I don't think, you know, have to let everybody know what's going on in your life, but they said, yo, we a couple. Leave us the fuck alone. That's it.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I just think it's interesting because the last time you heard of August being involved in a relationship, it was the entanglement of her around the world, you know? And so how long ago was that? Four years ago, five years ago?

[C]

During the pandemic.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To go from that to this, you know, so it's not abruptly, but you know, there is. People do wonder what happened.

[C]

With him with that.

[A]

Yeah, I don't care about his sexuality either way. But I can understand why people would be like, okay, what is he. Was he bi the whole time?

[C]

But once you're quiet and you don't. You're not out in public, people gonna be curious. They wanna know what's fuck going on in your life. And when you stay. Oh, damn. It's so weird to say that on a down low like that.

[A]

Why is that weird to say?

[C]

Because it's kind of in regard to this. Not in a bad way, but I said they relationship on a down low. People think it was down low, but it's not. He's openly into whoever he wants to be into.

[A]

Yeah, I agree that it's not nobody's business. You know what I'm saying? Whoever you choose to be with is who you choose to be with. It's just the fact that he's a public figure and people give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, you know, I just wonder, like, it does make some questions, you know, arise in your mind when you see him go from the entanglement.

[C]

To that to this. But that to see him go from. And I love this shit. This is a big.

[A]

Why?

[C]

I mean, when I was. For me, when I was introduced to August Alsina, his music was dope as shit. It represented.

[A]

It's still dope.

[C]

No, I'm not saying it's not. It was a street. So you just had one perception of him. You thought he was just a street.

[A]

Dude and then he could still be street and gay.

[C]

I'm not saying that he can't. I would like to answer my. I wouldn't like to answer for myself.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes.

[C]

Are you speaking for me right now?

[A]

No, I'm just.

[C]

I don't know what the mental word for what you're doing is.

[A]

No, I'm not. Somebody Google called asslighting. I'm asslighting you. I'm asslighting you right, right now. I'm asslating you. I'm answering any gay question. Any gay answer you may have, I'm answering.

[C]

Don't ask. Don't ask like me, okay? Yo, don't you ass like me.

[A]

I'm asslighting you. I don't see the problem with what August is doing. But you act like his music can't still be good.

[C]

I still listen to the music. I'm just saying. But it's just interesting. This is one Person. You think this is one person, and then it's somebody else. It don't change it. I think he's a good guy. And at the end of the day.

[A]

He'S a great guy.

[C]

He's a great guy. And at the end of the day, it's either. At the end of the day, you got good people, you got bad people. That's the. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what their sexuality is or anything. It's just good people and it's pieces of shit.

[A]

And the crazy thing is love is love. So whatever music you create because of whatever love you're experiencing, it's still love at the end of the day. But he might have made it. And his inspiration might have been a guy. You know what I mean? And you listen to it and all you hear is love. But you like women, so that's what you use the music for. Like, we never care. Luffy Bang. Never too much slaps. I don't care. What was inspiring Luther to the. Right. Them joints.

[C]

Right?

[A]

Them is joints.

[C]

But then when you think about it, you just realize that, like you said, he just wrote for love. Whatever. If it could have been for an animal, anything. It was just for. That's what, like, really good music. Good music and good songwriting is all about.

[A]

Poor animal.

[C]

Huh?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

His point was irregardless to who the subject was about. Love is love.

[A]

But that's what I said. But he's just random. Why he had to go to animals.

[C]

Hey, do this today, son. Not today, son. Could you just stop it?

[A]

What you mean? You said it. Why you mad at me for things that you're saying?

[C]

First off, you start off with shit with your producer shit. Cause my man Adrian Washington was on Kill Tony.

[A]

He killed it on Kill Tony, right?

[C]

And he was like, oh, this what you did?

[A]

No, the producer. What's homie?

[C]

Archer.

[A]

Archer. Archer goes, yo, you killed it on Kill Tony last night.

[C]

And then what?

[A]

He wasn't talking to you. He was talking to Adrian.

[C]

And then what did you say?

[A]

Huh?

[C]

What did you say? What did you say after that?

[A]

I said, ooh.

[C]

You almost said that. You almost said, like, ooh.

[A]

You did.

[C]

You did say ooh.

[A]

Did you say ooh?

[C]

You did say. You said ooh. He was the only one you saw last night.

[A]

Ooh.

[C]

You did say ooh, nigga. But everybody get a ooh of me.

[A]

Well, do better.

[C]

No.

[A]

You know there's a petition to keep you off Kill Tony.

[C]

No, there's not a petition.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[C]

There's Not a petition, Chris.

[A]

Isn't there a petition? We saw it earlier. They got a full fledged petition to keep you off filter. Official petition to ban Donnell Rollins. Listen, what's the headline say official petition to ban when they write that?

[C]

That's horrible.

[A]

Kill Tony for the rest of his.

[C]

Life 13 hours ago.

[A]

The fuck you be doing on these white people shows? Cause they don't want you there ever.

[C]

That was five years ago. Refresh that shit.

[A]

You're not even going on that being Refresh that shit. You're not even going on there being a woke liberal. And they don't want you on these shows. What are you doing?

[C]

I'mma tell you what I'm being me saying, son. I'm being me. I do these shows. I did kill Tony. First off. That audience is a diabolical audience. That audience right there. It don't matter what you do. It's gonna be motherfuckers.

[A]

That's not true. What I see. Adrian had him dying laughing yesterday.

[C]

You missing the point.

[A]

No. And I've seen other comedians and they.

[C]

Have him die laughing. Nigga, I had him dying laughing.

[A]

Shit. Let's read some of the comments.

[C]

No. Watch this episode, son.

[A]

It's 445 comments. Yo, what they say it says Donnell is annoying, but he needs to be annoying to push Rob to react in the way he did, which didn't annoy Donnell, which made things funnier and we.

[C]

Did a fire ass show.

[A]

This was his first step towards his redemption. Having trial by Snyder. Okay, what else we got?

[C]

It wasn't no redemption, son. Don't call it a comeback. Watch some good shit. How you want to read it?

[B]

You gotta watch it.

[C]

Must be some good shit.

[A]

Read it, Shevanche.

[B]

Yeah, I've been laughing my ass.

[C]

Go back all night.

[A]

Go back. That's not the one. That wasn't the one I was just reading. I was reading stuff off Reddit.

[C]

Oh, I'm switching it.

[B]

Go to Reddit. Go to the Reddit one.

[A]

I'm not reading.

[B]

Yeah, somebody said I was laughing my ass off all night.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Yep, yep.

[C]

Go. Too much positive. Wait, look, he waiting.

[B]

Great episode. Great episode.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

What does Whiskey hold?

[B]

He definitely has big heel energy. Rob. Okay. Yeah, they had a good balance.

[A]

He definitely has big heel energy.

[B]

Here's the thing. So there was a really great balance between Rob and Darnell.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not reading.

[C]

I know you ain't gonna read it. I know you. Why you don't wanna read it?

[B]

Hilarious.

[C]

Why you don't wanna read it? Yo, that's roti, nigga.

[B]

Read.

[A]

The Rob Schneider destroyer destroys Donnell Rollins on Kill Tony. What the. Yo, that was a trickle in a house. You were in a house in Korea. I wasn't. That's true. Delightfully chaotic and improbably wholesome. Kill Tony number 7:33. Felt like someone spun mercenary brilliant and Schneider and finished business. Anderson's interview. That was last night. You walked out, dude.

[B]

Oh, he came back up, yo.

[A]

That physical flouncing functions like a recurring gag in a sitcom.

[C]

What.

[A]

Rip off of. And Rawlings uses the energy of the room. Rob Schneider, meanwhile, slid into the evening like a guest star who knows all the best beats and isn't shy about stealing a few. The late show roast of Rawlings. Good natured, sharp and relentless. Landed repeatedly and the crowd rewarded it. Schneider's set felt like the clean, practiced uppercut after Rawlings improvisational jab. One is a pro, one is a thorny instinct. And they complemented each other in a way that made the episode feel complete rather than God damn. Yo, you a thorny.

[C]

Why are you talking? Why you won't let this.

[A]

You a thorny instinct, man.

[C]

Here's the thing.

[A]

You know who gets thorny instincts? Luther Vandross, before, he used to write songs. That was a thorny instinct that you asked. Like, that was crazy.

[C]

Those instincts.

[B]

You a thorny instinct is crazy.

[C]

I'mma tell you. The show was dope. Kill Tony's first off is one of the best platforms for people to be seen. Yes. Adrian did a minute set and he killed the set. I was on there as a first off return guest after dealing with four years of motherfuckers trying to shit on me, talking about somebody ran me off of a show and all that bullshit.

[A]

They did.

[C]

They did not.

[A]

We watched it.

[C]

If you watch that video, the video that went out, and I'm tired of explaining.

[A]

If you're explaining, you're losing. How many times do I have to tell you this down there? If you're explaining, you're losing. Okay. Do you feel like you lost your first Kill Tony episode? Do you feel like this new one was a redemption arc?

[C]

I.

[A]

Let me ask, Big Ja Ja, did you. What do you feel? Do you feel like he lost.

[C]

He killed it, son.

[A]

Do you feel like he fucked up the first Kill Tony and redeemed himself this new one?

[B]

I wouldn't say. I wouldn't call it a fuck up. I wouldn't call it a fucked up. And I feel like if, you know, Donnell's like, work, and you saw what he did when they premiered, he did an amazing job. There's a great balance right now. You gotta watch it. You really gotta watch it.

[C]

Not listen to the insufferable.

[B]

Like they're ready. They stay ready. Like that fan base, are they.

[A]

Like they ready to get at him? Yeah, but I can see that he's thorny. Why wouldn't she want to be get out of thorny.

[C]

In the first barbershop, a stuttering never is heard. What is that?

[A]

You telling jokes that nobody's laughing at?

[C]

No, it's the old, listen, I'm not a gimmick. I'm not a gimmick. And this is the point I'm making with you. I'm not a gift. This was that one. You're a gimmick. You will win because your face, you look hard to another shot, you go on a diet, you won't be so angry.

[A]

Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Joe Rogan, everybody. Sorry, Donna. Keep going.

[C]

Appreciate that, Joe. No, it doesn't matter. What I'm saying is these. That's called production.

[A]

Why are you on stage explaining. If you're explaining, you're losing, Donna.

[C]

Ever. There's the Joe Rogan podcast and say he's the interrupter. Can we pause that suck?

[A]

Yes, pause. So you can explain some fucking war. Explain, Donnell. Why do you gotta explain everything?

[C]

There's no way to win this.

[A]

There's not. If you're explaining, you're losing.

[C]

No, I know who I'm dealing with. I know the people that are gonna connect to your piece of shit energy.

[A]

Have you ever been in a relationship where you caught a man red handed, you know he was doing some bullshit and instead of just admitting it was some bullshit, he's just trying to explain his way out of it. Doesn't that FR how. Let's go back to all memes, man. This is just. No, there's nothing to talk about. Last night. Did you redeem yourself last night? Do you feel good about last night?

[C]

This is not good for my mental health, son.

[A]

What you mean?

[C]

I'm just telling you the truth. If you are an advocate for mental health, right? If you really care about a nigga mental health like you say you do. I feel great, like you say, but that's.

[A]

I feel great. Alex feels great, Chris feels great, Adrian feels great. But Big John feels great.

[C]

But you have no concern of my mental health.

[A]

Yes, I do.

[C]

Then why are you doing this to me?

[A]

Doing what?

[C]

You're doing things to trigger me. Charlamagne.

[A]

Could you go back to all memes matter, Chris? What am I doing to trigger you? Donnell, come on, stop. You're making things up per usual. Let's go back up. Okay. Click on bbl. I don't want to talk about that guy. I'm tired.

[C]

Go back to the roachie. Go back to the roach.

[A]

Tyrese hurt after Mary J blocked him out. I'm sick of this nigga, yo.

[C]

God damn. I'm so sorry. I didn't. The only nigga that I'm sensitive to me is this nigga right there. Silly. Got your feet, yo. I got tears on the inside, son.

[A]

His father passed away. Cut it out.

[C]

His father died. For real?

[A]

Yes. Press play now. See, she passed on it.

[C]

That's. No, it's okay. I feel away about it. I'm hurt. I'm hurt. I'm. I'm really hurt. I can't lie. But she passed on it.

[A]

And I wasn't hurt that Mary passed on the song as if she didn't have a choice because she died three days ago. It's all the same weekend. She's my sister.

[C]

I love her. This one I don't understand. I was more so hurt about her passing on the song because like a.

[A]

Mad scientist, I went into the studio and when I tell you I customize.

[C]

This song, I made this. What the fuck does this have to do with his father dying?

[B]

Made.

[A]

I just want you to stop joking on him. This was about Tyrese Express.

[C]

But what the fuck they had to.

[A]

Do What I know after Mary J. Blige turned out.

[C]

But then you said his father just died, right?

[A]

His father did pass away. His father actually passed away. I was with Tyrese last Friday. My dude Bakari Sellers and his beautiful wife Ellen, they renewed their vows and Bishop T.D. jakes did the ceremony, and Tyrese came out as a surprise guest and sang for Bakari's wife. So I was with him Friday, and I think his father died the day before, and he still came to Charleston, South Carolina, to do.

[C]

I would rather him be. Me personally, I would rather him have an emotional post about his father passing away. Having an emotional post about a motherfucker saying they didn't want to be on your song is fucking crazy.

[A]

But that's you. You do shit like that.

[C]

I don't do that. No shit like that. I don't put my fucking per. Everything about. I mean, we have to know everything about his life.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

We invested in him. And all is just crying and enough is enough.

[A]

Nigga, have you ever been mad that a comedian didn't want to do something with you?

[C]

No, I Don't expect too much. Too many people. But I don't ask.

[A]

I said, have you ever been upset when one didn't. Somebody you did expect something from, you asked them to do it, then they didn't do it. And you felt the same disappointment that Tyrese felt. Cause he couldn't get Mary J. Blige on the record.

[C]

I have not had that situation because I don't really put myself in a position to. Like, if I'm gonna. For the most part, if I'm gonna ask you for something, the people I'm gonna do that from, it's almost 100%, 100% that they're gonna show up for me. I don't have relationships with people that it'll be like, well, I don't know. Let me think about it. And for another reason, I never, never ask anybody for anything. Like, if a motherfucker. If I call them a say, could you do this? Cuts out a lot of the bullshit. Cause I don't, like, could you do this? Could you look at. I don't do that shit. So when I do, it's usually, like, met with, like, it's received very, very well.

[A]

So you go with safe bets.

[C]

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Cause if I know this nigga don't really fuck with me. Hey, man, I know we had.

[A]

But a lot of times the people you think don't fuck with you actually do fuck with you. But because of your trust issues, Donnell, you think everybody has something against you.

[C]

I don't think that. And that's a good flip. I really appreciate what you just did. You should be a therapist.

[A]

What are you talking about? Your wordplay is crazy stuff. What are you talking about? What the fuck?

[C]

Your manipulation is out of control.

[A]

What are you talking about? So you telling me I see what.

[C]

People don't like about you?

[A]

Cause all I heard was safety. You can't just lean into safety all the time.

[C]

No, what I'm saying is I am not a person that says, could you do this for me? And with that said, you got motherfuckers that ask for favors every five minutes. I'm not one of those people. So if I come at you with something like that, nine times out of ten, I'm pretty sure that you're gonna be down.

[A]

You got trust issues. Have you ever played the game where you just stand up straight and then somebody stands behind you?

[C]

I do have trust issues.

[A]

And you fall back.

[C]

You know why I have trust issues?

[A]

Why?

[C]

Cause I continue to try to have a friendship with people like Yourself?

[A]

What are you talking about? What does this have to do with me? This has nothing to do with me.

[C]

You know what? I have trust issue with you.

[A]

Well, say that.

[C]

I said it earlier.

[A]

I think you have trust issues with everybody.

[C]

I said you.

[B]

How do we fix this? How do we fix this?

[C]

Did I say that I ran off? Yeah. What does he have to do?

[B]

What does he have to do for you to trust him? What does he have to do?

[C]

I don't really need to trust. I'm never gonna trust him.

[A]

That is crazy. How could you ever be in any type of relationship like that?

[C]

You play too much, but you can.

[A]

Never be in a relationship. You know what it is? I really mean this. Your first, last and best love is self love, Nana.

[C]

Right?

[A]

When you truly start to love yourself, then you will start to trust yourself and then you will start to love and trust other people. The reason you have a lack of love and trust for others is because you don't really have that with yourself the way you should.

[C]

I don't give a fuck what you just said. That sound like something nigga told you already. You just got this out your last session. You remember what the nigga told you? And hit me with the same.

[A]

Could you be with somebody who could you be with a man that didn't trust people?

[B]

I couldn't. I couldn't. Not really, no. Well, no, no, I take that back. Well, not trust everybody. I think it's important to know who you can trust and who you. I mean, this is a crazy business, right?

[A]

How do you feel being his co host knowing he don't trust nobody? Do you trust her 100%?

[C]

100%.

[A]

Okay. Okay. How did that trust develop?

[C]

It developed over years of being in New York. I met her. Well, the first. When I met you, you were at a comedy show with a date. I cracked jokes and then I path crossed again. Cause she was already doing like interviewing. She was on one of the Internet shows called what's Poppin? It was really hot back in the day.

[A]

What's poppin.net? yeah, yeah, I remember that shit.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And she was just like somebody that we kept in touch and then we just. Our paths cross with cross became good friends. I always supported everything she's done. I done seen her go from like doing. I mean, there's certain people that you just root for. And when we were talking about. I was talking about the Breakfast Club. I want to build something that's different from like the traditional sense of management and agency. I ain't trying to take Over. But I think that we all have enough power that collectively, if you get a system together, you could create opportunities with your friends and the people that you fuck with.

[A]

So how come you never introduced her?

[C]

It wasn't the right time. Everything is timing. It wasn't the right time. She's had her life. She's been doing her thing, I've been doing my thing, she's been successful. All. Both of us have had ups and downs. But the thing throughout that we maintain a friendship, like, it wasn't like, I don't talk to you for a couple months. Like, where you been? Why you ain't called me? I already know if we're not communicating like that. She on her grind. She's doing this shit. She's not gonna wait for me to do anything. And I said, this is some real shit. I said, all right. Do I have any resources? This is me and my life. And people I fuck with. Do I have resources to help a motherfucker alone? Not to say that they need it, but if I could make one phone call and be like, yo, I heard y', all so and so. Look out for my peoples. The same thing. Like, the same thing with Adrian. I'll give you another example of the patience. My good friend Marshall Brandon, right? Marshall Brandon was my opener for years. A funny guy. Like, he's one of those guys, when you. When you go after him, you better be prepared. Cause you're gonna have to work. He was touring with me when we were doing. When we were doing the shows in Yellow Springs during the pandemic. I invited Marshall to come out and hang out with us because, excuse me, he was in Connecticut. And then we just had this bubble that we was just living life as normal as possible. And I invited anybody. I invited her out there. Like, people I know that could probably start having mental issues. Because I was like, yo, come out here, man.

[A]

You thought you might have a mental breakdown?

[C]

No, I didn't want to deal with any type of stress.

[A]

Got you. Gotcha.

[C]

And I'm saying, for me, my invite for people out there, it was a Relieve of that. It was like just. I'm telling you, I know shit is fucked up right now. I had to leave la. Cause I kept getting in it with my baby mother. And I was like, I gotta get the fuck outta here. This is gonna get crazy. Let me go. I found my peace there. I started inviting people. I invited her. Marshall, Brandon, Marshall.

[A]

Did you find peace there?

[B]

I did 100%.

[C]

It was like a math.

[A]

Don't answer for her. Cause you let her talk for herself, all right?

[C]

I'm not gonna let you talk to me like that.

[A]

Did you find peace?

[C]

I'm not doing that, son.

[B]

I met some amazing people of Yellow Springs. I built my own little community as well. I have a fragrance line. So my first store that I'm in is in Yellow Springs.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

What's the name of the fragrance line?

[B]

It's called Uni fragrance line. It's an oil. So it's unisex.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And I'll get you some dope.

[C]

Okay. Like I was saying.

[B]

But to answer your question, yes, I found much peace there.

[C]

Okay? Like I was saying about opportunities.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[C]

My guy Adrian, he just did kill Tony the other day. Marshall.

[A]

He killed it.

[C]

Marshall, Brandy, he was out.

[A]

He killed it. He didn't just do it. He killed it. He killed kill Tony. He didn't just do it. Give the man his props. Give Adrian his props. He killed it.

[C]

He killed it.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

The point I'm making is, Marshall Brandon was in those cornfields an entire summer. We had Kami Lineaby. I know he's a funny guy. Never once asked about going on. Never was like, he just happy. He was happy. He was in the moment. We did a summer show. Not one time. They going, I know he's a bad motherfucker, right? But this is what I say when it comes time. So we did a residency in Austin, Texas. This is when our bubble popped, right? Everybody was getting Covid. Like, all the comedians. And then we had a situation. We was losing comedians and to death.

[A]

Or, like, just sick.

[C]

No, just test the positive. So now you got to go disappear for 10 days. So it was down to, like, me, then Dave. And then Dave was like, all right, who's gonna open? So and so. And people started kind of panicked. I was like, look, we got it. Let Marshall go up, let him do 10 minutes, and then he could eat the garbage time. Whatever. Whatever he do, let's put him in that position. Then I go up. By that time, Dave be here. And it worked out. He got called off the bench, right? And once that it was a perfect time. I could have been like, you gotta check this guy out, right? But I think just certain things happen when it's a defining moment. He was ready. They called him in the game. And he's been touring with Dave, like, around the world as a solid guy. And that's because of relationship.

[A]

I think that's a dope story. I just don't like the fact that mad people had to get sick for Brandon to get a shot. You know what I'm saying? Cause you could have said, yo, you should check my guy out. You know, he's really dope.

[B]

He's been opening up in that environment.

[C]

No, no, no. Can I say, he's been opening up.

[A]

For me for years. He's really dope. You should check them out.

[C]

You trying to control the narrative.

[A]

No, I'm not. I'm just saying I'm not gonna let you do that.

[C]

Enough is enough. I don't know if anybody ever told you this, but Shut the fuck up.

[A]

There's a young lady trying to talk. You should not have to raise your hand to speak. This is a crazy relationship. You should not have to raise. Listen, big job, you should not have to raise your hand. This is fucking crazy. You ever heard this phrase, I want you to be free? You do not have to raise your hand to speak. Don't. Please don't do that in my face? Are you familiar with I will protect you? Okay, Are you familiar with that's crazy? You got her raising her hand to speak.

[C]

Have you ever familiar with this face? This nigga here?

[A]

That's crazy. Did y' all see that? She rolled. She put her hand up to speak.

[C]

That was kind of crazy.

[A]

That's crazy. You can speak for me.

[B]

No, I just wanted to piggyback off of what he was saying in regards to the timing and everything. I felt like in that particular environment, you have Dave, you have all these comedians. I feel as though if Donell was like, oh, you gotta check Marshall out, it wouldn't have been his time, and he wouldn't be on tour with Jay Wright.

[C]

But not only that. To add to that, you do stand.

[A]

Up too, though, right?

[B]

Oh, I don't do that anymore.

[A]

Why'd you quit? Cause Donnell killed your dreams?

[B]

No, no. He was the one uplifting me. He was the one uplifting me. I respect the art so much, and that particular lifestyle just wasn't for me. Waiting to see if I was gonna go up every night, going to open mics, and I was genuinely balancing Missy Elliott and Shakira. So, like. Like those dance shows.

[A]

Oh, she's a dancer. I forgot to tell y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

She. So were you good? Were you good as a standup?

[B]

I was decent. I think I was decent.

[A]

Donnell, was she good? You know what? You know what I'm sorry I said.

[B]

Yo, when her dress at work, I'd be like, just turn around and drink tips. No, no, no, no. I mean, I respect it so much.

[C]

I told him, she's like, what happened to my. I was like, just turn around.

[A]

He told you fuck your dreams.

[B]

No, no, no. I cried or whatever. I cried. I did.

[A]

You cried when he told you that you sucked?

[B]

No, no. I cried that night because no one left.

[C]

What? What? I told her. That's on her.

[A]

Oh, my God. Where was this at?

[B]

At the Laugh Lounge on Lower east side.

[A]

Oh, is that on?

[C]

This was only her second appearance, and she said. She sent me a video. She said, this is snippets from my show. I said, your whole show's a snippet. She said, this is five minutes from my show. Your whole show was five minutes.

[A]

How many minutes did you have?

[B]

Needless to say, I have five. But needless to say, I will say.

[C]

This is one thing I really appreciate about what she did. And this with anybody. She Something. Said she wanted to do it, right?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And even if anybody come to me and say, I've always thought about it, I'm always gonna say, at least try it. Don't mean you're gonna get a career off of it. But it's challenging your fears, and you're doing something that you're challenging your fears. You never know what's gonna happen. She did. She was into it. We were right. She had her stuff down. She was really into it. She was passionate about it. And then, you know, I told her, I said, when you go on stage, I said, don't talk about your looks. Don't talk about being pretty or anything. I said, because the ugly bitch is gonna get mad.

[A]

And that's what you did. Javanta.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, I got nervous.

[A]

Can you tell us some of the set, since you didn't, you know, it's not like you told me.

[B]

It was so long ago. I must have said something, oh, I was cute in college or something like that.

[C]

As soon as she did it, I.

[A]

Was like, dude, are you gonna ever let her finish the sentence? Are you gonna just interrupt every single time she talks? Is this how the podcast is? This is why I don't hear you on the podcast clearly.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Can you tell us some of your set, please, without being interrupted by Donnell Rollins? He doing you like he did to Riz of the Sky Man.

[C]

Oh, that's topic. But I get invited to these platforms, right?

[A]

To interrupt people.

[C]

They know who I am. They know what's about to happen. It's not interrupted. It's that I get excited. Okay. I'm not inter. I'm not. I don't interrupt people like that.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Javanta.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Do you remember some of Your set.

[B]

I know it was somewhere along the lines of I said I wasn't cute in college, and then there was crickets, and then I gave myself the light. I definitely gave myself the light and I ran off the stage. That's what I do remember.

[A]

Hold on. That was the joke. The joke was I wasn't cute and kind.

[B]

I don't remember the joke, to be honest.

[C]

Okay. It wasn't going as well.

[B]

It wasn't going. Yeah, it wasn't.

[A]

Do you remember any jokes that you told? Give us a joke. Not even from that night.

[B]

Oh, my God. Come on. Really?

[A]

Yeah, why not?

[B]

I don't. No, I don't have any.

[C]

Quit for a reason.

[B]

I quit for a reason. I could produce a comedy show.

[C]

Better dance. Yeah, Lampy, better. D. I ain't trying to kill no dreams.

[B]

I know my sh.

[A]

Adrian, do you remember any of them?

[B]

I know my sh.

[C]

I wasn't even around.

[B]

He wasn't around.

[A]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[B]

But I'm good.

[C]

This is what I told her. And she was like. And she's very beautiful young lady. And all the comedians, they was like, oh, it's going to be okay. Like, oh. She, like, just. She had a bad sense. She, like, just. And they like this. All, you know, them n. Is trying. You know what they trying to do? Yeah, keep playing, bitch. You cry on my shoulder. Watch. It's gonna be all right. I'm telling real shit. They like this. She cried his shoulder. They looking over, looking at her ass.

[A]

At the same time.

[C]

Is that the roadie? Is that the roadie? And she doing that. And she feels safe with these guys. And she looks at me, and then she's like, donnell, what do you do if they're not laughing? And I told her, I said, if you are crying right now, you should quit and never do it again. And I think that was her last day doing it.

[B]

How about that?

[A]

And you quit?

[B]

Yeah. Hell, yeah. I could not take it.

[A]

But also dance for Aaliyah. Then Aaliyah said, if at first you don't succeed, you gotta dust yourself off and try again. You just said, fuck it, huh?

[B]

No, I wasn't passionate about it. Like, it was something that I wanted to try and do. And I think it's one of the bravest things I've ever done. But I respect the art so much, and I'm around other people that I'm around.

[A]

And that's how I felt about rap. When I used to rap.

[B]

Okay, I didn't know that, but I had some.

[A]

And just, like, that had Somebody tell me.

[B]

All right, Spit some Spit a bar.

[A]

Well, my name used to be Dizzy Van Winkle, so I'd be like, dizzy Van Winkle's your name. I can slam King Kong, Lift Up Freight Trains, silly shit like that.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. How long ago was it?

[A]

Oh, this is 25 years ago, probably longer.

[B]

Have you performed and everything?

[A]

No, no, no, no. I mean, I've been on stage with rappers who are performing, but I was like, the hype man.

[C]

You know that your rap just reminded me of what. What episode of Breakfast Club. But somebody spit some shit.

[A]

You said, Nah, nah, that ain't it, y'. All. The difference between me and Safaree, that was Safaree. But the difference between me and Safaree, I knew it wasn't it. You know what I'm saying? Because, like you said, you can feel when you're supposed to be doing something. You have a passion for it. Somebody might tell you that you suck, and you'd be like, nah, I had a bad night. Nah. I knew I wasn't supposed to be rapping, just like you wasn't supposed to be doing comedy.

[C]

Yeah, but in a. Yo, Adrian raising his hand, too.

[A]

What the fuck you doing to your team?

[C]

Yo, yo, listen, man, listen.

[A]

What the fuck are you doing to your team?

[C]

It's called. You know what? You should understand this because it's something in radio. It's not like you can talk now. It's just, like, make the acknowledgement without bumping.

[A]

But it's a rhythm. Adrian could have jumped in. Go ahead, Adrian. This is crazy.

[C]

Listen, he did a lot of shit. I haven't grown up around him. I've been with D now for, like, three, three and a half years.

[A]

Not long enough. You haven't been with him long enough to form an opinion.

[C]

Very long enough to form an opinion. But he invited me out when he bought his house out in Yellow Springs. He's like, you gotta come see it. That's when I met the rest of the team. I didn't know going in because I had never met Marshall, really, you know what I'm saying? I was like, oh, man, I don't know how everybody gonna receive me. And because of the way he set me up, everybody from the day I walked in, open arms, you know what I'm saying? Like, sitting there talking with Marshall, a dude who used to be in my position about how things gonna change because now I'm on tour with Darnell. Like, that was just so dope to hear from him, you know what I mean? And I'd say, and I will say this. When I did kill Tony, right? And that is one.

[A]

Oh, God.

[C]

It's not even about me. It's about him. The thing I was like, of course I wanted to go back. Cause, I mean, I didn't feel comfortable what people thought of me then. I was like, you know what? All I'm gonna do, all I can do is be myself. I was funny as show, but more importantly, I know how big of a platform that is for comics that want to be seen. I got enough. I ain't saying I'm no superstar, but I'm known. I do this shit. And I knew he was ready, you know what I'm saying? Even when I pitched it to Tony, he was like, we'll see. I'll see what I can do. Certain people, just because you like somebody, that don't mean you're going to give them a shot. You know what I'm saying? Because they might not be ready.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

But I knew from rocking with him for three years, seeing how he performed, how he carried himself, I said, if anybody that could maximize that minute, it would be him. He did that. The set was great. And then even the post interview. Are you really tweeting while we talking?

[A]

Nigga, I'm not tweeting. I don't even be on Twitter. I'm listening to you.

[C]

You on your phone. That's disrespectful.

[A]

I'm listening to you.

[C]

But he was another example being ready. He stood up and he's already getting some heat from that audience or the people that they liked him. He did a good job. Did a good job on the show.

[A]

He's getting charged up.

[C]

What was that?

[A]

You charging him up?

[C]

Charging him? Yeah, money.

[A]

No, man like you charging him up like you.

[C]

Oh, we do that to each other.

[A]

Put the batteries. Oh, good. Yo, he was.

[C]

He was like this. He's like, oh, God. Got one. Got one.

[A]

Holy. Can you click on that one? Can you click on that one? The second one, Chris? Because I want to know what does Javonta. Javante. Javanta. Javanta. What does Javanta think when your friend is in these type of headlines?

[B]

Yo, Charlotte, I seen this post and, you know, I was so scared to like it, because I know he was going to see that I liked it. He be like, oh, that's what we doing.

[C]

We go on the pages. No, I'm just saying that's what we doing.

[A]

No, but I'm just saying we go on the pages. No, this is a story. Show your pages. Man goes To ER after sticking battery dumped his rectum for an energy boost.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Why they use your picture, though?

[C]

All right, all right.

[A]

Why did they use your picture?

[C]

Can we go to Darnell Rollins page?

[A]

But why did they use. Let's go.

[C]

Let's run it.

[A]

Javanta. When you see stuff like this, what do you think of your man? Do you even say anything to him? Do you acknowledge him? Do you be like, yo, I know this was just in the papers. This is in the blogs, but I don't wanna.

[B]

I know he ain't doing none of that.

[A]

How do you know?

[B]

Cause I know.

[C]

I know. Let's go to. We go to the pages.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

Go ahead. I don't care.

[C]

Donna Rollins page. Oh, that's crybaby nigga again.

[A]

Leave.

[C]

Tyrese want from us. What more do you want from me?

[B]

Yo, he got to let us live.

[C]

I'm tired, man. Hey, what more do you want from us?

[A]

Tyrese is a talented.

[C]

Keep going. Go down. I gotta keep going. Keep going. Let me get a good one. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, go ahead. Oh, yeah. You did the challenge. Keep going, keep going. There, go one right there. Show them that one right there. Click on that one in the middle.

[A]

Which one?

[C]

You know that one right there, son. This where all the anger come from. I know where all the anger come from. I know what it is. Go, go, go, go. Let's do it. Top five. Yo, yo.

[A]

Now go back.

[C]

Go back to the library. Back to the library. Let me see the whole thing. Hold on. Keep going. I know I never got another banger in there somewhere.

[A]

See?

[C]

All right, which one?

[B]

The left cereal butt sniffer. Busted again.

[C]

No, no, we don't want that. We want.

[A]

Yo, you know you got busted again.

[C]

He did.

[A]

He got busted again. Since that. Yeah, since then.

[C]

No, no, Go back to the top of the page. Go back. Go, go. Hold on. The challenge. Hold on. Keep going. All right. Go, go.

[A]

Yeah. Why you be so close to the camera when you be doing your right here?

[C]

Look, look.

[B]

Oh, this one.

[C]

This is the one right here.

[B]

The Chris Brown challenge.

[C]

Chris Brown. No, not right there in the middle. This one. You killed this. Where the angle come from?

[A]

Hey, eating.

[C]

Hey, this was.

[B]

Come here.

[A]

Eating. Eating.

[C]

You killed that style.

[A]

Hey, hey.

[B]

What?

[C]

Hey. Ooh, they about to eat up, y'. All.

[A]

Ooh, brah.

[B]

Ooh, Brah, brah.

[A]

Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. You know what I find flattering about all these videos, man? You see these guys, and they be working that shit, and you be like, all they need is Charlamagne's face for you to get real bricked up.

[B]

What?

[A]

Right? Tell the truth. Tell the truth like you be seeing those videos of those guys twerking that shit and you say if I put Charlamagne's face on here, it'll get real. Get me real bricked up. That's better than fucking Bluetooth.

[C]

That's level seven.

[A]

Tell the truth.

[C]

I don't know what network this podcast is.

[B]

That's a violation.

[C]

That's like the BET crowd right there. Oh, shit. Nah, son.

[A]

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[C]

Okay.

[A]

Javanta.

[B]

Javanta.

[A]

Javanta.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I almost had it. It's the van. It's the van and the von that's fucking me up.

[B]

And if you have an accent, if you said Javanta, then it's okay.

[A]

Javanta.

[C]

You want to learn how to say her name?

[A]

Javanta. When are you going to learn to introduce her to people?

[C]

I spent a whole time.

[A]

You know what I would have known how to say her name. And when you walk in the room, you say, yo, this is my people. Javanta. Javanta Roberts. Ok. She's phenomenal. She's my motherfucking Cole. She makes me look. No, you don't want to do that. You don't want to do that. That's why I asked if you was his lady when I first met you. I'm like, this must be his lady. Cause you don't want to introduce him to the room as if we're not married men. You understand what I'm saying?

[C]

Introducing Javanta Roberts.

[A]

Javanta Roberts. What do you have going on?

[B]

So right now, they did make the announcement. I hope I can say this, but I am on a new series called Choosing a Game.

[A]

They did a series on bet.

[B]

Series regular. I can't say what it is. I hope I don't get in trouble.

[A]

Manny, but it's gonna come out till Thursday, so.

[B]

Okay, cool. All right. So, yeah, I'm doing that. I'm producing a new comedy show coming up soon. And what else am I doing? I have my uni fragrance oil.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm a mom of a two year old.

[A]

Wow. Congratulations. Somebody shot the club up.

[B]

Yay. I was engaged, but not anymore. And what else I have going on and you know, the Raw. The Raw Edge collection. The Raw.

[A]

I wasn't excited. I was like, disappointed. I was engaged. Like. What? You was engaged?

[C]

Yo, but wait a minute.

[A]

He held on.

[C]

No, you did that. It's like the roti shit, son.

[A]

You shot your club up and bounced.

[B]

Wait, what about if I bounced? How?

[A]

Oh, you bounced. Okay. I'm sorry.

[B]

It's okay. We can talk about it later and then I'm really excited about what we have going on. As, as Donnell mentioned earlier, the Raw Edge collective is what we're building right now.

[A]

What is the Raw Edge Collective?

[B]

It's a collective of individuals who are in the entertainment space, not just comedians, myself, talent, and a couple other people we're building out. And I think it's just a great collaborative partnership. And so you'll find out more when Donell feels good.

[C]

Say some more nice shit about me. Watch his face. Say something else nice about.

[B]

No, but I really wish people could see, like, there's a side of Donnell nobody gets to see. And I've been privileged to it because he has been like a dad to me, like over the years. A dad. He has been a dad to me. And, and, and he's, he's such a hard worker. Like, we, we forget how hard Donnell goes. Like, he's always on the road and he's still doing television. He did a great job on bmf and I look up to him so much and he's such a great inspiration to me as an artist.

[C]

He's going to be. That's too positive. He about to end the show. He gonna do another commercial?

[B]

No, because we get all the bashing and oftentimes in these spaces, especially with Donnell, it can feel easily like ganging. That's why I, you know, I'm very, I thread tread lightly. Because then it can be like, let's just bash Darnell. But I would really love for people to see how great he is as a person.

[A]

I think people know that. But he's also bashable. He gives bashable energy.

[B]

Anyway, thank you, Donnell. We got a lot coming out.

[A]

You don't think he gives bash?

[C]

What's so bashful about me? Bashable energy.

[A]

You don't think he gives a little bashable energy. Just every now and then, he kind of sets himself up for it a little bit.

[B]

Just a little bit. A little bit.

[A]

What would he be doing? He likes the attention.

[B]

No, but.

[A]

Yes, he does.

[C]

But we're here just to, you know, look out for each other, hold each other down.

[B]

That's what we're doing.

[C]

And that's like you're saying about what the energy got off. Like, everybody that I'm around. Like, you know, in life, you choose. Like, a lot of times we put our energy into trying to make somebody think of somebody else.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

We focus on the negative people. Then you look around yourself, and you look around and you say, yo, I feel good when I'm around this person, I feel more motivated. When I'm around this person, I feel more inspired. And like, Adrian Javanta, everybody I fuck with, I'm around these people. Cause they make me feel good about what I'm doing, and I make them feel good about what they're doing. And we just come together and just make shit.

[A]

What you're describing is energy transfers because you get to a certain point in your life where you're aware of who makes your energy go up, and you're aware of who makes your energy go down. So at some point in your life, the fiance made your energy go up, but then you started realizing it made your energy go down, and you had to be out.

[C]

And I'll tell you that to answer that anytime you call me.

[A]

I was talking to her about her fiance.

[C]

I know, but I'm talking about you.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay.

[C]

Well, that's going to your point. When I see when you call me, my energy goes completely down.

[A]

That's a lie. He's lying. He's lying. He's lying. He's lying. I pick up the phone, he'll pick up the phone, and he start running. All the jokes that y' all be hearing now, I've heard months ago. Yeah, he runs stuff by me, and I know he's running it by me. He don't say, I want to run this by you. He just start talking. And I'd be like, when? He could tell by my reaction whether he should run with it or not.

[C]

You want to tell the story? You remember that time I FaceTimed you, right. Do you remember I was with Dave, right? And he. I text him, I said, I'm with Dave. We want to FaceTime. He was like, yo, what you want? It's late at night, right? He said, it's too late. I said, I'm with Dave. We want to FaceTime you. That nigga did like this.

[B]

And he go, ooh.

[C]

That nigga asked that phone.

[A]

I would have answered anyway.

[C]

No, you didn't talk about. You did like this. Do this. You like.

[A]

Hi, Dave.

[C]

You was happy.

[A]

That's not true. Yes, but I just knew that it must have been something good, which it was this male gossip. A little kiki.

[B]

Little Kiki ki.

[C]

And he respects you, too.

[A]

I respect Dave. Dave told me I'm gonna be a billionaire one day.

[C]

I told you that. Dave told you that?

[A]

But then he told me.

[B]

He also told me, too.

[A]

He told me at Radio City Music Hall. He told me. You did tell me that. But then he told me at. He told me at Radio City Music Hall. No, you did tell me that. But then he told me at Radio City Music Hall.

[C]

Who told you first?

[A]

You told me that.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

But he said no. He said, I'm gonna be a billionaire one day. He said, I have billionaire energy. And you know what? I think he's gonna be right.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

But nobody will ever know.

[C]

You gonna Byron Allen it?

[A]

Huh?

[C]

You gonna Byron Allen it?

[A]

Yes. Salutes Byron Allen.

[C]

What about Byron Allen does not get the props that he deserves.

[A]

No, he doesn't.

[B]

Why do you think it is?

[C]

I don't. I don't. I think first off, if people don't know his story, Byron Allen was selling jokes on the Tonight show for like $25 a pop. He's like 14 or 15. And then he started building these relationships with all these celebrities. And then he had this simple show. It was years ago. I think it was called Entertainer Studio, if I'm mistaken. And all it was was what they doing today. He'd just be interviewing motherfuckers. I think Shaq was one of the people just late night and he had these shows. He had no deal with nobody. He go to each individual market and license it to them. And it was like, okay, if I bring you this numbers, you give me that, right? And it was like his shows used to come out some weird times, 1:30 or 2:00'. Clock. But a lot of people didn't know. Whenever you saw his show on it, he was getting the money. Yeah.

[A]

You know, he bought the Weather Channel. He owns the Weather Channel.

[C]

He bought the Weather Channel. Another thing people know mostly, all of those judge shows, all the judge shows.

[A]

Ebony, K. Williams, all of them. That's all Byron Allen.

[C]

And then think about and this. And the thing about it is that.

[A]

The griot that's Byron Allen.

[C]

Byron Allen could probably go anywhere in Brooklyn, anywhere, almost with a baseball cap, and not too many people would even know who he is.

[A]

Yeah, I think the thing about Byron, he never. For a black comic to reach the level he reached, you usually have, like, a vehicle. Meaning, like, we know Chappelle had Chappelle's showing. Like, you know, Kevin Harts had stand up in all of these movies. You can't really pinpoint the thing Byron had that put him in that position. But he just.

[C]

But he had business swag.

[A]

He great at business.

[C]

I remember even when I was doing a show years ago, it was Comics Unleashed. I did a show and I had this joke that was borderline. It could be, like, sexual offensive or whatever. Something that wasn't like, for tv. And I was telling him, I said, but it's a funny punchline. And he was like this. He was like, I'm trying to get to that house in Malibu, right? And he just was like, all right. And it took me years later, like, all right, I could push that. But what did I get out of it? Or I can do this. Get something out. He's the best.

[A]

Yeah, but you ended up. But that didn't work for you, because you're better off being raw and edgy. You get more out of being who you are.

[C]

You know why? You know why? Because that's when people knowing me, I'm telling you, every year, I try to evolve some kind of way in comedy, whether it's the way I dress or think or whatever. And I'm like, okay, for me, this is some real shit. Even when I was. When I did the last special, I said, dave, I want to tone down this or that. He said, try to do that shit on your next special. Don't do it now.

[A]

Tone down for what?

[C]

No, what I'm saying is certain. I look at myself, there's some certain word choice that I use.

[A]

You use the Gaestler. You say Fraggle Maggot. I said it in its 90s form.

[C]

But I said it in the context of a punchline.

[A]

No, you didn't.

[C]

Yes, I did.

[A]

You literally. I saw you on stage and you literally go watch me say a whole bunch of shit I'm not supposed to say. And you just started screaming at my special. No, at just a regular show.

[C]

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about my special Netflix special. I'm saying that I know if I would have made certain tweaks, I would have got a different play they could have played. I know Certain media shows I could have done, but I know that it was raw. And it's not that, like, motherfucker, compromise or not being. But it's another side. I want to be able to do an hour special and watch it with my son, you know, I want to be able. That's what drives me. I want to be.

[A]

I watch Raw with my father.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And delirious.

[C]

I know, but I want to. It's a different. I get what you're saying. I mean, there was nobody hotter than Eddie Murphy. You couldn't keep your kids away from watching, so you might as well.

[A]

Don't you want to be hot? Don't you want to be hot?

[C]

Yeah, I could be hot.

[A]

Do you want to be mild?

[C]

I'm not.

[A]

Or do you want to be.

[C]

You trying to fuck with me again?

[B]

There you go.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[C]

No, mild is a fucking trigger word.

[A]

No, I'm naming Fistavo Bell. You got hot, you got mild.

[B]

You don't like mid or mild. You can't. He's been alive, this nigga.

[A]

What is wrong with him?

[C]

No, what I'm saying is it would be a challenge for me, and I could do it to do a set, like a clean set, but still have raw energy. And that's just. Even in the way I speak. Like, on my special, I say the N word a lot. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm so used to saying it, but I'm like, if you cut this, cut that, it's the same. The joke is the same. It's the same thing, but it's a different way to present it. So that's that.

[A]

You got any church announcements?

[C]

Donnell? The Donnell Rollins Show. It's funny enough, it's a show that helps you with your mental health through comedy. Yes, it's on the Donnell Rollins, the channel, YouTube channel, the Darnell Rollins Show. But more, I mean, other than that, I'm just touring, doing dates, and just connecting with creative people and just keeping moving, enjoying what I'm doing.

[A]

Well, if you really want some help with your. My fifth annual Mental Wealth Expo, Saturday, October 11th, from 11am to 4pm at the Joelle and Diane Bloom, the Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center.

[C]

I throw tomatoes at that, Joel.

[A]

At the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark, New Jersey. It is a day of mental health education and healing. In honor of World Mental Health Day, it is a free event from 11am to 4pm Saturday, Oct. 11, Newark, N.J. to Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center. Debbie Brown is going to be there. Jason Wilson is going to be there. Dr. Alfie Breland Noble. Dr. Rita Walker Elliot, Connie Jay Barnett. Just some of the best mental health professionals on the planet today. And it is a free, free event because contrary to Donnell Rollings popular belief, I don't make a dime off being a mental health advocate. Say what's on your mind.

[C]

Not gonna say nothing. You're right. I'll be there on 11th. I'll be there.

[A]

Seriously?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm gonna pull up 11am to 4pm Come on, pull up. I'll put you on the panel. You can talk about. But you gotta be serious. I had Tyrese there last year. I had him and Jason Wilson on the panel together.

[C]

Did he cry?

[B]

No, I'm just kidding.

[A]

He actually did. He actually.

[C]

He.

[B]

He actually.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

He actually did. It's that kind of event. I've cried there before, yo. It's that kind of event. Let's see what's going on with Young Thug. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm too old to talk about this shit, okay? I am. I was born in 1978. I don't give a fuck about who's snitching and who's not snitching. I don't care, okay? I'm telling you that right now. I didn't care when Gunna snitched. I just want music. Give me the slaps, Give me the slaps. Give me the slaps. Now. When Thug came home, what I told everybody was based off the rules of the street, based off the laws of the land, y' all supposed to give this man a hero's welcome, right? Because the streets always talk about how you shouldn't snitch. You're supposed to hold it down. You stood on it 10 toes down. I said the same thing with Bobby Smurda. Y' all didn't give Bobby Smurda a hero's welcome, okay? Y' all don't even really fuck with Bobby music like that no more. You know what I mean?

[C]

What's he be doing it in? His drawers and shit. Good. Yo, they can do a lot of shaking and shit now.

[B]

Bobby, yeah, he be like, in his house, he be like doing all Bobby Smurda.

[A]

Oh, I miss that shit.

[C]

Yeah, they say he trade.

[A]

He peeing his underwear. I don't believe that. I don't believe that.

[B]

Look it up.

[A]

Bobby Smurda Schmoney.

[C]

Nah, Google it. I bet you come up with some boxes and shit.

[A]

Okay, well, you proving my point even more. There's no reward for this real shit that y' all motherfuckers be on. I don't give a fuck about none of that's.

[C]

All starting to fade now. I think being square. Square is the new whatever it is. Think about it, though. Look what 6ix9 did. Yeah. Still selling records he told on everybody about.

[A]

Yeah, but see, Six9ine never bothered me from the beginning because Six9ine, we all knew he wasn't built like that anyway.

[C]

But the people that like his ain't from the streets. They from the Internet, right? Like, Thug ain't from the streets.

[B]

Apparently, they're all from the. It's just a new day.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Over.

[A]

Ain't nobody.

[C]

You asked me earlier talking about that.

[B]

Yeah, we were talking.

[C]

The asked me earlier. She said, donna, look, would you snitch? I said, oh, I'm not gonna be. Just don't put me in a snitching situation. I just don't wanna be around people that you got around.

[A]

First of all, you can't snitch. You're a civilian. I can't snitch, I'm a civilian. Okay?

[C]

The point I'm making, if we see.

[A]

Something, we can say something.

[C]

The point I'm making is I don't wanna be around the situation where you even see shit like that even happen.

[A]

I'm with you. If I'm around that shit, something wrong. Okay. Only thing I'll say about this situation is that young Thug has become a victim of an environment that he created. Because if he hadn't have reacted to Gunna the way he reacted to Gunna, nobody would be holding him accountable like they are now. And I'll also say, out of all of the calls I heard, 21 Savage is by far one of the smartest young men out here doing it today. And the first time I interviewed 21 Savage nine years ago, you can go look it up on YouTube. I was having a conversation with him. By the end of the interview, I said, man, you a smart young man. You got your head on your shoulders. And I'm listening to him talk to Thug and the things he's telling. Thug is absolutely, positively correct in regards to how Thug should have handled Gunnar. 21 said, you have Gunnar's hand in your career. If you come out and you say, this ain't that, then nobody gonna look at it as that. Simple. As simple. Simple. So shout out to 21 savage all this other shit, you know, that ain't my business. I could care less. Is this here, Right here, this is the 21 clip. Yeah, play that one. Play Go scroll up. Play that right there. Chris, listen to how this man talking to Thug.

[C]

Nah, I'm on with bro. I'm trying to drop an album the same day. Gonna drop bro. Bro, you need. I'll sent you a song. Put a verse on it. The ain't send me no song. I ain't see no song.

[A]

When he pulled us up, he dropped Friday.

[C]

You think Ain't gonna know he signed me. He dropped Friday for sure, man, 100% Friday.

[A]

I can hold his shit back if I want to.

[C]

If my album don't be red, I.

[A]

Can hold it back.

[C]

But Drake already sent the song called the name of my album. I'm gonna drop my album on the same day he dropped. And it's called business.

[A]

That ain't the clip I want. I didn't understand that though. I didn't understand Thug wanting to compete with Gunner. That's his artist.

[C]

Love you. Later.

[A]

It was the other clip. Yeah, we'll find it. It's the clip with 21 is telling thug basically what I just said about holding his career in his hand. Let me see. Scroll down. No, scroll down.

[C]

I have no idea what's going on in this world.

[B]

Yeah. And it's like, damn, I should have.

[C]

Open this shit to Teddy Swims. For the last year, I'm with you.

[A]

Ain't nobody got time for that street shit, man. You the one used to always want to talk about you from the streets.

[C]

No, I didn't.

[A]

Now you wear high heel loafers and you don't want to be from the streets no more.

[C]

Style, son.

[A]

Nobody got time for that, man. Oh, maybe it's that one. Young Thug in 2017 discuss Gunner and unfook. Yeah, that one. That one.

[C]

That one.

[A]

One, two. No, the fourth one. That one. Click on that one.

[C]

I don't know though, man, but you seen.

[A]

You seen your brother Pete?

[C]

Most definitely. But he said you told him to do that. That man watch out.

[A]

Man.

[C]

God. That what he telling the truth on.

[A]

That same girl he kept.

[C]

Take a.

[A]

Plea and say alive. I don't know. Never mind. This ain't the clip. I don't speak. I don't speak like I used to.

[C]

Who recording this?

[B]

Right?

[A]

Oh, this is the one. Now this is the one for real. This the one. I ain't gonna say nothing about you on the Internet.

[C]

I ain't gonna let the world know I ain't with you until just say something. But you know that's what they supposed to did. Like trying to go at him to get clout. Yes, they have, but that's it. Like, ain't doing all this, like, why I'm unfollowed him. Yeah, but I mean, that's just that little boy that ain't really saying that to no. Yeah, but that's still position. Yeah, but I ain't saying they wrong. I ain't saying they wrong. I'm just saying, yeah, they jumped the gun.

[A]

But it was supposed to have a.

[C]

Conversation with you for that.

[A]

Anything.

[C]

I talked. I talked to Wham. Wham.

[A]

So he get on the phone.

[C]

Hey, you told buddy don't do that, all right? Hell no. Say, listen, he did impression of his man.

[A]

Off top, someone that happened. We don't even look right talking about this shit, man.

[C]

I mean, I'm just looking. It's just hard for me to take, like, discreet talk and the energy and. Nigga got skinny jeans on. That's just. I still haven't got it.

[A]

Niggas will still kill you when you stand.

[C]

I know, but these, they can't hide the gun. So you know they got a gun.

[A]

All I'm simply saying is we too old to be talking about this. I see this shit and be like, who the fuck cares who's snitching? Yeah, where's the music at?

[C]

Oh, everybody rich.

[A]

Everybody rich. That's my. Now, see, now we can have a conversation about that. That's my biggest issue. My biggest issue is when God puts you in position to where you are able to make a great living for yourself and your family. And you still running around doing street shit. I've only seen that shit in three ways. Jail, dead, or you end up labeled a snitch.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So at some point, you gotta cut all of that shit the fuck off and just live the right way.

[C]

I agree with you 100%. I say it all the time. I mean, if you can't switch that environment, you gotta leave it. And you're not gonna be. You'll go crazy trying to save the entire hood. But that was our generation. We understood that, like, now everything. Social media and they just. It's so much more about image. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, come on, man. If we had that kind of money, he was doing it back in the day. Why are you going along? For the crime time, Right?

[A]

Yeah. And listen, I'm not sitting around acting like our. Our generation had it all together. We grew up on some wild, right? You know what I'm saying? We grew up on some very wild people, but our rappers did a lot of lying Our rappers were smart, entertaining. Our rappers were smart enough to know they was just entertaining. That's what Chris Rock made the CB4 movie about. All the rappers that were pretending to be gangsters. These is still out here wilding. For real. For real. And end up in jail, dead or labeled as snitches. Those are the three routes, the three end results of all of that shit that y' all doing.

[C]

Internet beef is the funniest thing. Like these motherfuckers actually go on live and be talking to each other like the police, not watching the same shit that they be out there.

[A]

Last week, Donnell, we had a conversation. I don't know why. It says. It says I made a controversial take that Drew Ski was better than Key and Peele. Now you are a veteran of sketch comedy. You are on arguably the greatest sketch comedy show of all time. I have two that I put up there as the greatest of all time. It's my 1A and 1B. I can't say which one is better. It's Chappelle showing in living color for me.

[C]

Right.

[A]

I personally never found Key and Peele for no disrespect to Key and Peele. I respect them, everything that they built. I think Jordan Peele is amazing in films. I just personally never found Key and Peele funny. I say that Drew Ski is the greatest sketch comedian of this generation, and potentially the last one, because I have him over Key and Peele. What say you?

[C]

I don't think Drew Ski is a sketch comedian. And I look at like this, I give Key and Peele a lot of props because to be able to come behind the Chappelle show and hold your own. I think if Key and Peele would have came before Chappelle show, people would have liked it even more. But Drew Ski, to me, I don't know too much about him, but he's. To me, he's like a reality sketch guy. It's reality show. His stuff is like reality based.

[A]

No, he does reality too, but he does sketches.

[B]

He does sketch.

[C]

I don't know. I can't. I mean, see, you just a hater.

[A]

You just don't find sketch. You don't. All right, first off, because you said you don't consider him a sketch comedian. Why is he not a sketch comedian?

[C]

I'll tell you this. This is what I'm telling you, okay? What I know of him and what I see of him, I don't know the stuff I see that. What I see is that record situation.

[A]

He could have been records.

[C]

Yeah, it's Just genius.

[A]

Fantastic.

[C]

You know, it's genius.

[A]

That could be considered a form of sketch, but that's more reality.

[C]

I think Juice gets in his own lane. I think he does his own thing. I'm not knocking him up because I was like. I would say, who the fuck is this Drewski guy? Then I started seeing him pop over the place, and I was like, I didn't know if he's a rapper, whatever. He was doing funny stuff. He's in a different lane. He's got different tools to get his shit out. You know what I'm saying? With social media, streaming, all that type of stuff. And he's a funny guy. But I don't think there's a place to like, to compare them. If one is different through different forms.

[A]

I think it's a place to compare them. Because I think that when you're talking about raw talent of sketch comedians, right? Like people who. Cause sketch is a hard thing to pull off. You know this. Like, everybody can't do sketch. Drewski can do sketch.

[C]

Okay, but this. But I'd say he could do sketch.

[A]

What do you think, Javon?

[C]

No, let me say this. Let me say. Let me ask. What it is, is he can do sketch. He's in funny situations. But me, when I'm seeing. Not knocking anything, when I see him doing his stuff, I still see Drewski.

[A]

No, you don't.

[C]

How you gonna tell me what I see? I still see him.

[A]

Put your glasses on. Put your glasses.

[C]

No, what I'm saying is, like, I see the personality Drew Ski. I don't see, like, when, like, Key and Peele, like, he'll play. Like, they would do extensive makeup situation to look like somebody else.

[A]

So does Drew Ski.

[C]

But then maybe I just don't know enough about Keen. Pill was a show.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The structure. They had a structured show, right? So how would Drew Ski live in an SNL environment or a Chappelle environment or.

[A]

I think he'd be even better because he'd have a whole writing team, he'd have producers. So when I just talk about raw talent, I laugh. When I watch Drewski's sketches, I do, too. I can't really remember times I've laughed at Jordan and Peterson. I laughed.

[C]

But I would put Drew Ski more in comparison with, like, Daisy Banks.

[A]

Why? Because of the Generations.

[C]

Just for what they both do. Skit wise, sketch wise. You know what I mean? I think Key Impale is a whole nother thing from Drewski. I think if Drewski had had opportunity to do what Ken Peele did, he'd be great. But for what he's doing, I don't think it's almost a comparison.

[A]

I think we're comparing platforms. I think y' all are still holding TV in a higher regard than the Internet.

[C]

No, you're telling us that what we're doing. That's not what we're saying. We're telling you what the difference is. And it can't.

[A]

TV and the Internet.

[C]

Yeah. It's like they came into two different eras, you know what I'm saying? Like when Key and Peele was popping, like tweet, like the Instagram, all that shit wasn't popping nowadays. And I'm not taking away from what's.

[A]

Your favorite Key and Peele's cast, but.

[C]

I think it was the one when they was crying. I forget what. They was in a gangster situation.

[A]

He was sweating.

[C]

Teddy bear. The teddy bear. It was something to do with Teddy bear or something.

[A]

Now, what's your favorite Chappelle sketch?

[C]

Probably Prince.

[A]

You see how you can just name that off the top without saying, I think it was the crying. The teddy bear.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, that's the difference. But, you know, I'm not comparing either one of them. It's just two different lanes.

[A]

Who better, Chappelle or Key and Pugh?

[C]

Everybody have.

[A]

Put the helmet on. Let's play the game, man. You can fuck the table to the back.

[C]

I guess nothing is. I don't think anything will ever. Nothing will ever surpass Chappelle show and what we did on Chappelle Show. But I can appreciate what Key and Peele did, too. To me, they was funny. And again, I say coming behind, getting that same time slot, coming behind what people consider one of the best sketch shows in the history of television. That's a lot of balls to be able to do that, because you're gonna always be compared to that. But I think that they held their own. Was it better than Chappelle's Show?

[A]

No, no. I don't think Key appeal was whack at all. I'm just saying that I personally never was, like, dying, laughing. Yeah. Like Chappelle, you crying, laughing, you going to school, quoting this shit the next day. We didn't do that with Key and Peele. To me, Key and Peele didn't. Key and Peele did not infiltrate culture. Not at the time, not at the.

[B]

Yeah. It was the timing, though, of Key and Peele and when it lived. To me, personally, I'm in a younger generation.

[C]

How old are you?

[B]

Well, God, damn, I'm 38.

[A]

Oh, 38. Okay. Yes, you are. Younger generation. So Drew Ski or Key and Peele?

[B]

Drew Ski.

[A]

See what I'm saying? I think Drewski is funny.

[C]

He's funnier.

[B]

He's funny as hell. But it's not.

[A]

But that's all I was saying. He's funnier, he's hilarious.

[B]

He's as him like him as raw talent. He's funny. He's just really funny.

[A]

I don't get that from Ken.

[C]

Here's the thing. Why do we always have to compare? Why we can't just enjoy the moment and what each other.

[A]

What fun would that be?

[C]

That's why you're a piece of shit. Like can you right there, son. Who doesn't want to be an asshole? Asshole lives forever, son.

[A]

Listen, let's pay another bill to do some asking. Idiots, man. Can we do that?

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It's on Prime Javanta. This is the part of the show where guests send in questions.

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Okay.

[A]

And we asking idiots. Can we go back to the group chat question? We can start with that one. In our group chat it was asked Donnell. I don't even know if this is true, but this is a question that came up. Cause I don't know if this is true. Why haven't more people from the Chappelle show had superstar careers? Themselves?

[C]

A lot of. Well, it wasn't. First off, it wasn't really a cast on Chappelle's show. Charlie had a great career after. I mean Charlie, Bill Burr was part of the show. You see what that happened to him. I think some of the people that were in the camp that you see the most, they did do Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan, yeah. Everybody's doing.

[A]

But even if you look at the cast, Neil Brennan has had a fantastic stand up career. He's got some of the most. What's the word I'm looking for? Some of the most. I don't want to say daring. Daring is not the word I'm looking for. I can't think of the word I'm looking for. But unique. Unique. Standup specials. The three mic special was something I've never seen before. Blocks was something I've never seen before.

[C]

And Neil dares to be different. And it's so funny. I've known Neil for years. I seen him go through two transitions from the young writer who wrote Half Baked with Dave, you know, to a guy who was like selling these scripts but it wasn't getting the green light. So he wanted to get into directing. He called my manager and said, yo, I'm doing this little short with Donnell be in it. Cause he wanted to start directing from that to when he did stand up. Like first he was just a writer and then he. It was like they're not green lighting my movie so I don't want to direct. He did that, did very well for himself on that. And then challenged on the standup. He was the door guy at the Boston Comedy Club years ago. And I don't think anybody ever looked at Neil, what he's become.

[A]

I have. I give Neil his props all the Time.

[C]

I don't think anybody would. I know you give him his props now, but I don't think anybody in the past looked at Neil about that. He would take Stand up as serious. It was always like, he was an awesome writer, a producer, but the actual. I remember when he first started doing Stand up, I would go to open mics. We used to do it. It was this comedy spot on Tuesdays in Manhattan. It was called Nails. It was a black room, right? And I told. I said. I said, neil, you should come down here and do a spot. He came down there, right? And then he looked at that room. He had headphones on, right? He looked at that room. All I remember, it felt like the headphones were still in the air. And that nigga jumped, ran out of my, like, damn, I'm not fucking with that ghetto ass crowd.

[A]

Yes, yes. I think that. I think Chappelle's show has. I mean, superstars are strong word. You know what I mean? Like, how many superstars actually exist? You have some great stars that have come from there, but you gotta look at it. You.

[C]

You gotta. Thank you. But you gotta look at it like. I get the question all the time. Chappelle did this for you. Chappelle did that. I get it all the time. And what I say is like, yes. What happens is he created a platform for people to see what I was capable of and what I was doing. It's not like he trained me or taught me anything. It was like this.

[A]

He didn't groom me.

[C]

You stop it. Some people just need to be playing on the same space. I did Snoop Dogg did a special for Netflix a while ago, right? It was called I forgot. Fucking around, Fucking around, Snoop Dogg fucking around, right? And I saw on this page that all these comedians that was on, I was like, how do these motherfuckers keep missing me? Keep missing me. And I had talked to my agents and stuff. I was like, yo, I really want to do that. You know, I got a decent relationship with Snoop. I was like. And they. Everybody's like, they. We're trying. We're trying. They couldn't do it. I was like, wait a minute. I got him in my phone book and I just text him, I said, yo, I heard you got something going on Netflix. I went in and he hit me with the black fist sound. He said, I got you. Next day, my people called and they were like, guess what? We got you, Snoop. I'm like, no, you didn't, nigga. I can show you the text right here.

[A]

I got the receipts you still gonna give them their 5%, huh?

[C]

Yeah, but that's.

[A]

You shouldn't.

[C]

That's a different.

[A]

You gotta eat what you kill.

[C]

That's a. That's a different situation, huh? The business is, you know, agencies I put like this. In a lot of cases you pay to play. You know what I'm saying? Agency gets you an audition, give you opportunity to make millions, and then maybe that doesn't happen. Then you doing a gig or whatever, you give them a cut. It's just a business.

[A]

Nah, bro, you gotta eat what you kill. 5% for something that they didn't do. Now, if they help you with the contract, maybe, you know, but who am I to tell you about your business? Let's do asking. Idiots. Chris, are you enjoying yourself? I'm having a good time, Gervanta.

[B]

I'm having a great time.

[A]

Damn, you really can't get.

[B]

Yeah, you just killing people. Think they're the. Like. Do I make you nervous?

[A]

No, I just. I have trouble with pronunciation.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Gervanta, Gervanta, Gervanta, Gervanta. Would you consider social media, a new version of the Bible?

[B]

The Bible?

[A]

Yes. Textbook for the future.

[B]

The good Lord's book. New version of the Bible. No, not social media.

[A]

It is some people's religion. Have you ever read this book called American God by Neil Gavin? It turned into. It was a TV show.

[B]

I've seen a few of the episodes.

[A]

One of the new gods was Internet. Boy. This is a lot of people's religion. The way people talk, the way people behave is all based off what's going on online.

[B]

Well, I think social media has become the source of information, whether it's misinformation or news rather. But I don't necessarily think that it's going to take the place of the good book. My personal opinion, but I think people go to it first as a resource of information, whether it is religious based or political or whatever. But I don't. I don't think it's going to take the place of the Bible. That's my personal opinion.

[A]

No, it'll never take the place of the Bible. I mean, the Bible's too fire and the Bible, sure.

[C]

Tyrese thinks it's the new the Internet. Tyrese?

[A]

No. Tyrese believe in God. Tyrese believe in Jesus. What do you think, Donnell?

[C]

He believes. Attention.

[A]

No man. Would you consider social media a new version of the Bible? You ain't gonna do none of that when you see Tyrese either. You gonna ask for a picture?

[C]

I'm not gonna ask for the picture with Tyrese. Tyrese, don't fuck with me.

[A]

Why would you do Tyrese?

[C]

Cause I posted a picture of him crying. I did a. I posted a picture of him. It was a Jordan face, but I had Tyrese.

[A]

Man, that's fucked up, man. You and Tyrese are very similar.

[C]

He said, yeah, I would have expected that from somebody. And I don't know. I'm like, nigga, you don't know me.

[A]

You and Tyrese are very similar. Y' all take yourself very serious, ain't you? Okay.

[C]

Capricorn. No. Sagittarius. He told me to take it down. He said, take it down.

[A]

Ain't you a Capricorn?

[C]

Sagittarius.

[A]

Oh, never mind.

[C]

Yeah. Nah.

[A]

And you took it down for him?

[C]

Hell, no.

[A]

Oh, and Paula says, would you have sex with the prettiest girl in the world if she had no thumbs?

[C]

Well, I don't get thumbs up or anything anyway, so.

[A]

What the fuck is the problem with the thumbs?

[C]

That is the situation.

[A]

Why would you give a fuck if you ain't got no thumbs up that grip? You know it. With no hands.

[C]

I'm saying, I know thumbless people got different tricks. They probably do, like, a double crasp or something.

[A]

Why you like. Oh, you like the thumb for the other.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

That's what you like? You like to hitchhike, Darnell? That's what you like? That's what you like. I ain't. That's what you like to hitchhike, Donnell?

[C]

I'm retired from comedy.

[A]

You like thumb wrestling?

[C]

It ain't fun no more.

[A]

You like when somebody put it back there and start thumb wrestling? That's usually.

[C]

This used to be fun. This used to be fun. This used to be fun, son.

[A]

Nah, I'm just trying to figure out what the problem with the thumb. Like, why do you need thumbs?

[C]

Why don't you have sex with a pretty girl in the world if she had no thumbs? Yeah. I mean, no high fives, but, yeah, why not?

[A]

I had a bougie moment like that once in my life.

[C]

Somebody had thumbs.

[B]

No missing limb type.

[A]

Why is she. The girl had an inverted nipple.

[B]

Oh, I've never seen one of those.

[A]

Yeah, so, like, one of her nipples was poked in.

[C]

She only had one.

[A]

Yeah, there's only one that was poked in.

[C]

That's weird.

[A]

And when I asked her about it, I was like, what's up with that nipple? And she was like, oh, that's the one everybody like to suck on. And I'm like, ah, I'm out.

[C]

Not that it's Everybody.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Like, she seen my ex, Everybody. Like, damn, she was fine too. Like, ugh.

[C]

Trying to get it to come out.

[A]

I just. I don't. You know, I think about that all the time. Like, why did that turn me off so much? I don't know why somebody with both.

[C]

Inverted, but I ain't never seen just one for real.

[B]

I don't think I've ever seen an inverted nipple.

[C]

And it was bad because she had.

[B]

What does it look like? It's just flat.

[A]

It literally looks like an invisible finger is poking it in.

[B]

Oh, my God. Like a hole.

[A]

Yeah, so it looks your nipple and it look like it's poke. It look like it's poked in.

[C]

Like.

[A]

You ever seen them came toys the kids play with poppers. Yeah, that's exactly how I look.

[B]

But if you suck it, will it, like, pop out?

[A]

I didn't try.

[C]

I know many have tried.

[A]

I didn't try. And I don't know why. I'm like, why did I let that inverted nipple stop me from sealing the deal? I don't know why.

[C]

Look what I'm getting. These are messages I'm getting. I've watched a bunch of those kill Tony. Don't really like Tony, but it's interesting. Hands down, the best one. You killed it. I watched it last night. So fucking good. Here's another one.

[B]

Charlamagne. You gotta watch it. He did good.

[C]

This is fucking unbelievable. It keeps getting better and better. And now nobody said it with the dick. I can't stop laughing. Fucking. Oh, fucking Tony shouted you out on it too.

[A]

What'd he say?

[C]

It was funny as shit, yo. That's. He's like. It was something to do with the tranny or whatever.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then he said. He said, charlamagne's gonna have fun with this. That's why I was waiting for you this morning, to be like. Like, I was waiting for that. N. Like, go to the video.

[A]

Yo, what happened with the transgenders?

[C]

You gotta watch it.

[B]

You gotta watch it.

[A]

You got caught one.

[C]

I said you gotta watch it. Y' all do a remix of that song for any black guy watching her right now. Yeah, we will. We will. You. It's probably true until you find out.

[A]

She has a dick. Donnell. That is Adrian. That's the first place the white guys look.

[C]

You ruined me. It is.

[A]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna say Charlemagne's gonna find that clip.

[C]

Have you won?

[A]

We will. We will.

[C]

You.

[A]

You are. You are Donnell. I like, kill Tony. I just don't like when Donnell be on the. Unless he's bombing. See, I like seeing certain people bomb. That's awful, huh?

[C]

That's awful. Really? What, Joe, that's why you a piece of shit, man, why he don't trust you. Yeah.

[A]

No, come on.

[B]

This happened.

[A]

You ain't laughing, you sorry, Mom.

[C]

No.

[A]

When she told you about it, you died laughing.

[C]

This is what. You don't respect what we do, right? Bombing. The word bomb. You can't even joke, like, to a comedian like this. You bomb. Like, hold on, nigga, I don't bomb.

[A]

Yeah, it's very.

[C]

That's a triggering word.

[A]

Especially a Muslim comedian. You never say that to me.

[C]

I don't think she. I don't think. The thing is, I didn't think she bombed. It's just that she didn't have the experience. She didn't know how to deal with the situation. She was still learning. But bombing is a very, very hard. That's a. Bombing is a very ugly. You shouldn't have so much fun saying it.

[A]

It's not that I like watching people bomb. I like people trying to come back from it.

[C]

It's funny.

[A]

It's hilarious. Joe, when a person is on stage by the. When a person is on stand by themself and it's just a microphone and it's the crowd, and the crowd ain't feeling them, and they looking at that light like, God damn, how much time I got? That shit is. And when they fight, oh, my God. And when they fighting, oh, my God.

[C]

You know it's bad. Like, motherfuckers. When we was doing the cornfield shows, motherfuckers was bombing in the cornfields. And you could really hear crickets, right? Like real crickets. That silence was like, ooh.

[A]

Charlie Mariano says, do we learn or just remember what we already knew?

[C]

I think we learn.

[A]

No, you're not going to expound on it. You just.

[C]

No, I just want to say I think we learned.

[A]

Okay. What about you?

[C]

I think and I see. What I think is.

[A]

Yes. That's the whole point.

[C]

See, what we do is we learn from our mistakes.

[A]

Yes. Yes. What do you think?

[B]

I think sometimes, you know, as a woman, we have this intuition, right? And we know better, but we still gotta learn, you know? Like, you gonna learn or you gonna have to see for yourself? We have all the best advice in the world when it comes to relationships, friendships, but then we just gotta go through it. So I think at some point we kind of know, but we still have to learn.

[A]

Did you know what your fiance.

[B]

I had to learn. Like I had to learn. There were some red flags that I ignored because I always see the greatness in people and I just like their downfalls. I'm like, oh, well, this will get better, or this will get better. But in the end, I kind of knew.

[A]

What's his race?

[B]

He's really. He's from Guadalupe, which is a French Caribbean island. So he's white, he's black. Mix mixed a little bit.

[A]

Mixed with what?

[B]

White.

[A]

What does he present as ethnically ambiguous? So he looks white? No, he looks Dr. Umar be disappointed.

[B]

No, man.

[C]

Nobody give about.

[B]

He's a black man. He lives his life.

[C]

I mean, I love the.

[B]

But don't he owe people money?

[A]

Y' all don't owe nobody no money.

[B]

What's going on with him?

[C]

More funny than Barack Obama. Barack was hitting us for $10 every day.

[A]

There's some people that's mad at me because I keep saying that Dr. Umar did what he said he was going to do, which is he raised the money, he bought the building, he renovated it. It presents. It looks like a school, but you gotta have the people that know how to create an actual school infrastructure for a school. I think that's what he fucked up at. It's like if you wanted to build a comedy club, you asking for donations. You get the money, you go buy the building. You even renovated to make it look like a comedy club. But you have no experience on how to launch a comedy club.

[C]

I'm trying to say is that while he was saying he wanted to build a school, he didn't know how it was going to be ran.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

So he sold motherfuckers a dream.

[B]

But where's the money?

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

Where'd the money go?

[A]

He bought the building.

[B]

Okay. And it's just sitting there.

[A]

Yeah, it's renovated the FDMG academy there in Delaware. But now he got behind on some bills, so I think it's up for auction now. So it's not like he didn't set out to do what he said he was gonna do. I just think he just didn't have the people you can tell. Create an infrastructure.

[C]

I understand what you said something we call that scamming, yo.

[B]

Right.

[A]

How is that a scam?

[C]

No, I'm not saying scamming, but we wanted the school bell ring.

[A]

But you gotta get the right people to help you make schoolmark.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Listen, Michael Blackson did it. Who?

[C]

Michael Blackson. Yeah.

[A]

He built in Ghana, though. Yeah, but Michael's situation is different. Michael just put the Money up to the people who knew what they were doing.

[C]

So he didn't have nobody that knew what they was doing?

[A]

Clearly not. But, I mean, that was always his thing, right? Like, he wanted to do it on his own.

[C]

But after a while, if you know it's not moving a certain way and you're not, you don't have to stop taking people's money. You're still getting the case.

[A]

I not sitting here arguing that one.

[C]

I don't have no problem with him. I like Dr. Kumar. I did a joke about him on my special, and he was. He took it lightly. So I don't have no problem. It's just that I know that's the question everybody's asking on any of his page. Where is the goddamn school? That's the question people want to know.

[A]

Javante. Javante. Javanta.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

Javante.

[B]

Javanta. Stay with me now.

[A]

Javanta. Javanta. Have you heard his jokes about me? Everybody keeps telling me about it on stage.

[C]

Now it all makes sense. Why you fuck with me?

[A]

So everybody keeps telling me that. He got. He got like, five, ten minutes on me.

[C]

Is that seven strong?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, he does.

[A]

You ain't heard it. You don't put no attention.

[C]

I'll send it to you.

[B]

No, I know the. I got a. Yeah, I know your jokes.

[C]

I done heard a few times. Oh, you heard it?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Crazy.

[A]

It's funny.

[C]

What?

[A]

You wrote it, didn't you, Adrian?

[B]

No, no, Donnell. Donnell got him in his pocket.

[A]

Adrian wrote it. It.

[B]

Cuz you know what those jokes are?

[C]

You know how you like the light? Like when you see suffer? When they bu. When I got them laughing at you, I go extra long with the. He be like, oh, yeah, they with it, yo. What? They with it. Yeah, y. I'm like, they still laughing. They got that shoulder, yo, if they laugh, sometimes he back off of it. Sometimes he. Sometime it don't hit. I'm like, ah, nah.

[A]

Sometimes it depends what room you in.

[C]

Sometimes I bring this, I do a call back. I said, y' all remember what I said about that nigga earlier, right?

[B]

Do it again.

[A]

The Rico Graham says, what's the biggest mistake we can make with our money?

[C]

Giving it. Doctor not investing, right? No, the biggest mistake you can make with your money is giving it to everybody, Right? I think you. I remember Jay Z. I interviewed him when I was at Power years ago. We interviewed him, and he was like, if you can get through that first lick. That first lick, the first, like, grip of money where you like, oh, I got you. Y' all get what y' all want and everything. He says the second time when it really starts to pop. But that's the hardest thing to do, is protect your money from people, family and people close to you. Cause motherfuckers will. Will suck you dry.

[B]

Yeah, not investing. I think when you get a lump sum of money, you don't put it in the proper divers. Don't diversify your money. I think that's a big mistake as well.

[A]

Yeah, I agree with all of that. I think the biggest mistake you can make with your money is not saving it. I think that, you know, a lot of times we be in such a rush to keep up with people or, you know, you looking at social media and you want to keep up with the latest trends, you want to have the latest designer clothes, our car, whatever it is. What you in a rush to spend your money for, man? My daddy used to always say, man, stop treating your money like it's on fire in your pocket and you just gotta get it out. You know what I mean? Put that shit in the motherfucking bank and let that shit sit there for a minute. Cause there's gonna be a time where there's something you really, really, really, really want to do and you gonna really, really need the money for and you gonna wanna go be able to touch something. I've never spent a television check.

[B]

Oh, yeah?

[A]

Never spent a television check. Never have. Not all them late night talk shows and all that shit. I never ever spent one check. That shit is just sitting in a bank account. Pay your taxes on it and keep it the fuck moving. But that's when you have, you know, different. You have enough streams of income coming in to where you don't have to touch that money.

[C]

But that's all financial literacy too. A lot of people just don't know anything about that. Especially from the hood. They just don't know. It's like, I gotta get to the next check.

[A]

Yeah, let's do one more. What else we got? Alex, scroll up. What else you got? Yeah, I have no clue on this. This is a good question though, but I don't have any idea. Charlamagne, Any advice on vacation trips for the boys trip for men that are 30, 35 and single? I've been with my woman for 27 years. I don't know nothing about no goddamn boys trip. Going away on no boys trip. Why? Who wants to go on a boys trip?

[C]

Exactly. You do.

[A]

30 to 35.

[C]

You do so today.

[A]

That's why they asked you, what about you trade?

[C]

They think you trade.

[A]

You be doing that. What, going on boys trips.

[C]

I don't go on boys trip, but, yes, you do.

[A]

You be telling them, come to the river.

[C]

I don't be like, hey, guys, it's a boys night, or some shit like that. That'd be niggas I fuck with.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, but you cook for all the guys.

[C]

That's not a problem.

[A]

And then y' all go tubing now, guys, y' all be doing the kayaking.

[C]

Guys don't prepare like women do. Guys are like, oh, guys, I don't do it. Guys night out. I don't even do guys.

[A]

Yes, you do.

[C]

No, I don't.

[A]

So what about when you be going down the river and it'd be you and another guy in the tube?

[C]

I only person that's in my motherfucking. Your first tube. I don't fuck with the tubes. I got a canoe. I fuck with canoes.

[A]

Whatever the fuck.

[C]

The only people ever been in my canoe is my son and a woman. That's it. I ain't never doubled up in a canoe with a dude.

[A]

Never.

[C]

Nah.

[A]

Okay. All right. Well, that's it, guys. Javante. Javanta.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Javanta. Thank you for joining us. Javanta.

[B]

Thank you so much for having me. I had a really good time.

[A]

Absolutely. Donnell Rollings, thank you for joining us. You can listen to the Donnell Rollings podcast, starring Javanta Roberts. Okay. Co hosted by Donnell Rollins. You can't even get the fuck out. Look at you. Good for you. Good for you.

[B]

Right?

[A]

As always, if you listen. Oh, Adrian, thank you, brother. Absolutely. Make sure you check him out on Kill Tony. He killed it. And as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit. You're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listen.