Blanking On Everything

Summary

The Brilliant Idiots – “Blanking on Everything”

Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God & Andrew Schulz
Date: October 17, 2025

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Episode Overview

This week’s episode finds Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz diving into recent controversies involving the Middle East peace deal, the backlash against comedians performing in Saudi Arabia, and viral culture “pull-ups” like Alexis Ohanian’s confrontation with Stephen A. Smith. Throughout, they tackle themes of free speech, hypocrisy in entertainment, internet outrage, personal growth, and being unapologetically oneself – all with their trademark blend of humor, irreverence, and social insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & Chris' Absence ([01:29]-[02:25])

• Charlamagne and Andrew open with jokes about Chris’ absence, teasing absurd reasons (hostage swap, political jokes).
• Segue into the Middle East conflict, negotiations, and skepticism about the new peace deal.

Notable Quote:

"Can’t end a war in one place and start a war in your own country."
— Charlamagne Tha God [02:41]

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2. Middle East Peace Deal & Hostage Situation ([02:25]-[06:25])

• Discussion around the recent deal for hostages and general distrust in such agreements (“thousands of years of history”).
• Emotional impact of hostage reunions, uncertainty about peace lasting.
• Andrew reflects on the viral stories, sometimes questioning their credibility due to widespread misinformation.

Notable Quotes:

"The hostages being home. Hell yeah. That’s the thing I celebrate the most."
— Charlamagne Tha God [03:57]

"Can you imagine being a hostage for… how long has it been? Almost two years?"
— Andrew Schulz [04:03]

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3. Backlash Against Comedians in Saudi Arabia ([06:16]-[15:05])

• Andrew details the uproar over comedians performing in Saudi Arabia.
• Pushback about “selling out” or supporting oppressive regimes; Andrew defends performing for fans worldwide.
• Discussion about freedom of speech abroad vs. U.S., pointing out that the U.S. is an outlier in true free speech; Canada, UK, and India cited as examples where comedians have been arrested.
• The double standard: No criticism for sports or entertainment acts in Saudi, but comedians get heat.

Notable Quotes:

"First of all, I don’t give a fuck about no other country’s freedom of speech. We’re the only country with freedom of speech."
— Andrew Schulz [07:33]

"They think you can’t [make jokes]… They literally was like, yo, you’ll probably be beheaded."
— Charlamagne Tha God [08:34]

"If you’re going to be censored by your own audience, just get a job at Comedy Central."
— Andrew Schulz [20:06]

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4. The Saudi Comedy Festival & “Fake Outrage” ([15:05]-[19:52])

• Explores reasons behind differing backlash to comedians vs. sports stars.
• “Political mudslinging” after having politicians on comedy podcasts.
• The fleeting nature of internet outrage: Comedians who reacted and returned their pay are ultimately forgotten.

Notable Quotes:

"If you’re getting fake outrage, you’ve arrived."
— Charlamagne Tha God [18:12]

"These people are not your fans – they’re the people that are perennially outraged."
— Andrew Schulz [18:32]

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5. Freedom, Success & Virtue Signaling ([19:52]-[22:24])

• Debate on actual freedom: Corporate America vs. independent creators.
• The importance of authenticity over audience approval; dangers of self-censorship for “the algorithm.”
• The value of being able to pivot and reconsider one’s opinion publicly.

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6. Saudi Arabia’s Deep Roots in Entertainment ([22:31]-[24:05])

• Charlamagne lists various investments Saudi has made in entertainment, beyond comedy (e.g., golf, wrestling, concerts, video games).
• They call out hypocrisy on social media: outrage is selective depending on the field.

Memorable Segment:

• Listing Saudi investments: “Liv Golf, PGA, FIFA Club World Cup, ATP Tennis, Dazn, Live Nation…” and the punchline, “So that’s the beautiful thing. You better stop playing FIFA!”
  — [23:27]

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7. The Money Discussion ([24:21]-[27:14])

• Andrew clarifies that, for top comics, the Saudi gigs didn’t represent life-changing cash. For up-and-comers, it could be huge.
• Comedians overstating the size of the payday—when many could make similar sums stateside.

Notable Quotes:

"If you do four arenas in four days… it’s the same money!"
— Andrew Schulz [24:42]

"Shut your rich ass up, man."
— Charlamagne Tha God [24:34]

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8. The Dave Chappelle Comments ([27:14]-[30:29])

• They analyze Dave’s remarks about it being “easier to speak openly in Saudi than America.”
• Andrew notes, you can joke about U.S. figures abroad since no one knows or cares; not so for local sacred topics.

Notable Quote:

"Yeah, it’s easier to talk about Charlie Kirk [here] because they don’t even know who the fuck that guy is."
— Andrew Schulz [28:48]

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9. Realness vs. “Pull-Ups” Online: Alexis Ohanian & Stephen A. ([40:38]-[50:36])

• Discussion about Serena Williams’ husband “calling out” Stephen A. Smith—but only over Zoom, not in person.
• Charlamagne emphasizes that confrontations are only impressive when done face-to-face.
• Reflection on social media hype over minimal conflict.

Notable Quotes:

"Don’t act like this kid from the Special Olympics making a shot and Alex telling a joke and everybody going crazy." — Charlamagne Tha God [44:15]

"You get a lot more points from me if you slam dunk on a person with your nuts in his face."
— Charlamagne Tha God [48:32]

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10. Stand-Up, Vulnerability & Comedy Crowd Moments ([32:55]–[37:01], [54:12]–[81:22])

• Behind-the-scenes: Andrew brings Alex on stage during the Saudi festival; he blanks briefly, recovers, and the group discusses the emotional rollercoaster of first-time stand-up.
• Bit about audience support for the nervous comic—"It's like when the kid makes a shot at the game, everyone cheers."
• Extended riffing about bombing on stage versus success; support versus online roasting.

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11. Internet Outrage, Pop Culture, & Outlasting the Hate ([17:09]-[19:52], [88:20]-[92:02])

• How minor controversies dominate the online “timeline” but rarely matter in the real world.
• Only a handful of comedians cross over to true mass culture; many overreact to fleeting hate.

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12. Lessons, Growth, & The “Rule of 10” ([85:06]-[91:16])

• Discussion on the hardest lessons learned:
  • “Don’t expect you from other people.”
  • Criticism comes with the territory of public success.
  • The necessity of withstanding hate to reach greatness.

Notable Quote:

"That’s the rule of ten: Three people are gonna say you’re good, three people are gonna say you’re shitty, three people…"
— Andrew Schulz [89:20]

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Timestamps for Memorable Segments

• [04:11] — Emotional impact of hostage returns.
• [07:33] — On performing in countries with less free speech.
• [20:06] — “If you’re going to be censored by your own audience, just get a job at Comedy Central.”
• [24:34] — “Shut your rich ass up, man.” (money in comedy)
• [28:48] — “Yeah, it’s easier to talk about Charlie Kirk [here] because they don’t even know who the fuck that guy is.”
• [44:15] — “Don’t act like this kid from the Special Olympics making a shot...” (about Alexis Ohanian)
• [48:32] — “You get a lot more points from me if you slam dunk on a person with your nuts in his face.”
• [54:12]–[81:22] — Extended, playful roast about bombing at stand-up, first-timer jitters, and crowd energy.
• [89:20] — "That's the rule of ten..."

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Notable Quotes & Speaker Attribution

• Charlamagne Tha God:

  • “Can’t end a war in one place and start a war in your own country.” [02:41]
  • “If you’re getting fake outrage, you’ve arrived.” [18:12]
  • “Don’t act like this kid from the Special Olympics making a shot and Alex telling a joke and everybody going crazy.” [44:15]
  • “You get a lot more points from me if you slam dunk on a person with your nuts in his face.” [48:32]
  • “Don’t expect you from other people.” [85:27]

• Andrew Schulz:

  • “First of all, I don’t give a fuck about no other country’s freedom of speech. We’re the only country with freedom of speech.” [07:33]
  • “If you’re going to be censored by your own audience, just get a job at Comedy Central.” [20:06]
  • "That's the rule of ten: three people are gonna say you're good, three people gonna say you're shitty..." [89:20]
  • "If I got fans there, I'm performing for you. Simple as that." [23:58]

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Tone, Humor, and Style

Biting, irreverent, and self-reflective—this episode roasts everyone from comedians to politicians to themselves. Charlamagne and Andrew toggle between discourse on outrage culture, industry double standards, and philosophy of comedy, always looping back to the value of being authentic, embracing critique, and prioritizing one’s own view over online sway. Their playful bickering and mutual roasting underpin the episode’s message: in an age of manufactured conflict and short-lived viral waves, being a “brilliant idiot”—bold, honest, and sometimes flawed—is its own reward.

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For listeners who missed the episode:
This is a ride through today’s thorniest pop culture debates, comic circle feuds, and online outrage, peppered with classic Brilliant Idiots wit and memorable punchlines. Topics leap from Middle Eastern politics and stand-up ethics to public call-outs and internet fame, all filtered through the duo’s lens of authenticity and never taking oneself too seriously.

Transcript

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[Andrew Schultz]

What's up?

[Charlamagne tha God]

How are you, sir?

[Andrew Schultz]

Man, I'm good, bro. I'm sad that Chris isn't here.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm sad that Chris not here too, man. Why you said that Chris here?

[Andrew Schultz]

No. Cause it's. I don't know. I just think it's fucked up, man. He's. You know, what happened or whatever.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, with China?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, not with China. It was the hostage deal. He was one of the. They sent him back.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hilarious.

[Andrew Schultz]

The Jews are like, yo, you've been talking too much shit about us, so we sending you back to fucking Palestine, Chris.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hey man, I mean, listen, when something good goes right, you gotta say it went right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, that's all I'm saying.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm not mad at it. I don't.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's all I'm saying. First of all, Y' all voted for none of this.

[Charlamagne tha God]

First of all, I. Look at.

[Andrew Schultz]

Y' all voted for none of this.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, that's just one thing. He jumped right out of the frying pan and went right into the fire, ready to go to war with Russia and all kind of time.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's such a wife. Wild ass boy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But by the way, forget Russia. Here's the thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's celebrate a win.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes, we can absolutely celebrate a win.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right? One time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Forget America. I mean, forget the world.

[Andrew Schultz]

Time for the boys.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's supposed to be make America great again, right? It's supposed to be America first.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yep.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Can't end a war in one place and start a war in your own country.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a good ass. That's a good. Why you already moving on to something else?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm not. I'm just.

[Andrew Schultz]

I thought we were supposed to celebrate.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We can talk about it all. But I do feel like I.

[Andrew Schultz]

Seems like people are jumping off it real quickly. You know, there's a lot of people, like, there's a genocide happening and then the guy literally stops the genocide from happening. And now people are like, but the.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But, but. You know, there is a but. You know why?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Because nobody trusts either side. Well, if Hamas says that they.

[Andrew Schultz]

Are you telling me that people are not trusting a deal between Donald Trump, Bibi Netanyahu and Hamas?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly. Are you saying, Are you saying that.

[Andrew Schultz]

People don't have faith in a deal between those.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Everybody's like, Everybody's just like, okay, let's just see what happens. And that's the best thing to do. Take it one day at a time. Because Hamas still doesn't feel like Israel has a right to exist and this current Israeli government doesn't want a two state solution. So everybody just hope for the best.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I know, I know. I was being hyperbolic. Obviously. I think that a lot of people are hesitant to believe this will stick, and they should be, because there's a few thousand years of history that shows.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That it won't stick.

[Andrew Schultz]

So I do. I hear people making that argument all the time, like, why aren't you guys celebrating? Why don't you do this? It's because nobody believes it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I. You know what I am really happy about?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The hostages being home. Hell yeah. Because in my mind, I'm thinking, can you imagine being a hostage for. How long has it been?

[Andrew Schultz]

Almost two years.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Some change. That is the thing I'm. That's the thing I celebrate the most. Like, yo, you know what? I'm happy those hostages Are home, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's wild. I've been watching the hostage transfers on like both sides. That shit is emotional, bro. It's emotional just seeing people reconnect with their families. There was one that said, I don't know if it's true because everything's fake on the Internet. But it was one that said that like they told him that. They told him that his family died.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, while he was a hostage.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

So no, it's. It's fucked up. But like then he goes back and this is I think a Palestinian that went back. So I think that the Israeli government or so says the video, which is obviously fucking fake. You can't believe anything on the Internet. But they're like, yo, his family died. And then he goes back and he sees his wife and he's like, he can't believe it. And then he sees his kids. He's like, imagine you thought your whole.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Family for two years. He probably think he dreaming, yo. Yeah. I would rather be in a maximum security prison than be a hostage for two years, bro. A hostage in fucking war torn Palestine. And you got to hear all of these bombs dropping and shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

But what you're saying is like, it's an equivalent like, yeah, obviously, I don't know. You wouldn't rather be in a supermax than be a hostage in the tunnels of Palestine. They be raping in this in the supermax. Yeah. No, that's not the. No, not the ones that they. They forever. So you don't think they want that halal. You put the all in halal.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're right, you're right.

[Andrew Schultz]

You want the little halalics media, but you are right, they gonna get some of that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But you are right about something. We don't gotta compare American way though. This is what we do. Come on, top five.

[Andrew Schultz]

Top five hostages just go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't even know it.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's just the most American shit. We gotta take top five lists out of everything. Top five is really hostages go top five.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I have no idea. I've never heard of this shit. But this is even. Even when everybody would be discussing like, we want the war to end, we want the hostages to come back. The hostages coming back was always the most logical thing to me. Because to your point, this has been. The war has been going on for thousands and thousands of years, bro. You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

We solved it, bro.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So hostages home. I'm top tier.

[Andrew Schultz]

Welcome. Yo. I just want to let everybody know you're welcome. Okay? Flagrant went out to the Middle east and Then all of a sudden, there's a hostage agreement, there's a peace deal.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm just saying now what we were told. I'm just saying, this is what we were told. We were told that if y' all comedians didn't go out there, your family was going to be hostages.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what we were told. Thank you for letting them go, by the way. I really appreciate you. I hope you like the jokes. Thank you for letting them go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what we were.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let me have my daughter.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What happened with that, man?

[Andrew Schultz]

Bro, that shit was so. People are so fucking stupid. We were talking about this on flagrant, but, like, I was thinking about it this whole week, and I just hear all these people trying to justify it back home. They're like, america does bad things. America does bad things. It's like, shut the fuck up. Like, you either have fans in other places or you don't. I will perform for my fans wherever they fuck they are in the world. People don't decide where they're born. They don't decide the laws in the countries where they're from. But they do play a role in. In me being able to, like, literally live my dreams. They watched the special just like anybody else.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So you did it for the fans?

[Andrew Schultz]

I.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What was the backlash? Tell me, what was the. What was the backlash?

[Andrew Schultz]

The backlash is just people who weren't invited that don't even have fans outside of Brooklyn saying that they wouldn't go. What a sacrifice. You can't perform outside of fucking Greenpoint.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I keep hearing it was a freedom of speech thing. Like, they don't have freedom of speech over there.

[Andrew Schultz]

First of all, I don't give a fuck about no other country's freedom of speech. We're the only country with freedom of speech.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But did y' all have to sign a contract that said y' all couldn't talk about them?

[Andrew Schultz]

Charlamagne. Charlamagne. Charlamagne. They probably have restrictions.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I put my set out. I put all the local shit that I did out. You could go see if it looks good. All right, you can go see. It's up on YouTube right now. I bet you nobody else put that shit out. I bet you that. I bet you none of them other.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Pussy put that shit out to other countries. And I've made posts about them.

[Andrew Schultz]

So everybody was making this stuff up about, like, the restrictions, like, what you can or can't say. Yeah, all that restriction is people trying to not be in trouble. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're Just trying to not be the ones accountable. It's like your manager. And I knew this because I performed in the Middle east before, and they give you these things like, don't talk about this. Don't talk about. Don't talk about. And I'm just like, guys, they all are educated in America. Like, they understand shit. They understand the comedy. They speak English. Like, they get it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You can make jokes about them, you can make jokes about their leader, but people think you can't.

[Andrew Schultz]

They think you can't.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Got you. Like, you can't.

[Andrew Schultz]

No.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They literally was like, yo, you probably.

[Andrew Schultz]

Be beheaded and somebody gotta cover their ass. So there. In case you do something.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Three fourths of cloth facts. Yeah. Why would you have your ass out now? Don't be.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, I'm just saying, like, why.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Would you beat your ass out?

[Andrew Schultz]

I know you might tempt somebody.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I know you ain't say that over.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, of course.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What, bro?

[Andrew Schultz]

I did. I had a.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You made gay jokes? I'm pro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. 9, 11 jokes. Bin Laden jokes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What?

[Andrew Schultz]

The whole.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What this?

[Andrew Schultz]

When I go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's on YouTube.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, I gotta go. Wow. When did it go up? You just put it out now. Oh, oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Put it out right now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, yeah, it's like, this is. I mean, I had this. I had one. That was quick. What are you looking up? You looking up the video? He wants to see the video.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I gotta watch that later, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, nah, you. This is the thing. It's like, they. They like humor out there. This is the thing. A lot of people in the west, they just have this complete. It's pretty kind of racist, if you ask me. They just have this complete bastardized view of people in the Middle east, right? And they just can't conceptualize that. These guys go to fucking school at Tennessee State University.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're watching only American comedy, Only American content. They're used to our humor. They don't get to decide the rules in their country. Yeah, I'm fortunate and privileged enough to be born into a fucking democracy. We're the only ones with free speech, by the way. Canada don't have free speech. They're arresting comedians in England for jokes that they put on Facebook. Like those motherfuckers in Canada, truckers protested and they locked up their bank accounts. Like this idea that, like, we're the norm, we're the outlier.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, let's see if we can hold on to our free speech. Your boy don't seem to want it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, do you, bro? Hey, I'm just kidding. No, no. I'll fight tooth and nail for free speech, obviously. Like, I don't ever want that. I think it's really important for us, 100%. But just this idea that, like, it's their whole livelihood. Yes. Here. But my point is, like, these people are not beneath you performing for them. That's what I don't. That's what I didn't like with the whole rhetoric. And, like, if you really want to look at that purity test, basically, all the people being critical. They're not saying it, but they are saying you can perform in white people countries.

[Charlamagne tha God]

White people countries.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because name the country that's not a white country that has the rules that are okay for you to perform in.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I see what you're saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I'm saying? Oh, does India have free speech? No.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? Like, do all these other places and.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Then you probably could go over there and get the same jokes off and nobody would care. I think a lot of this is narrative.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're arresting comedians in India because I remember being.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, yeah, and I'm going to India.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? Like, I'm going to all these places because wherever I have fans, I'm gonna perform.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They're arresting Indian comedians in India. They're not gonna arrest you if you go over there and get.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're not gonna arrest me anywhere except America, probably. That would be the only place. But, like, they're not gonna do it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Because you have been critical of Trump and you're not supposed to be. Once you was on his side, I will compliment him. That's what he doesn't like the most.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah. If he gets it right. That picture is crazy. He looked like a balloon. That picture is insane.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He looked like. No, that's.

[Andrew Schultz]

But if he does something good, I'm gonna say colonoscopy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what the guy doing your colonoscopy sees.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what she is.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The guy doing your colonoscopy sees.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, everyone gets these jokes. Trump is going to get up now. If he does good shit, I'm going to call it out. If he does whack shit, I'm going to call it out. Which I've always said, that's what being.

[Charlamagne tha God]

An American is about. I am interested in the Saudi Arabia thing, though, because I told you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tell me, tell me. Ask all the questions.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I didn't actually didn't tell you because we edited it last week.

[Andrew Schultz]

But yeah, I had to make sure.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We were going to know. I know I get it, I get it.

[Andrew Schultz]

We have to get back to America.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But we were. When I was in Abu Dhabi, which is another place people have a lot.

[Andrew Schultz]

Of United Arab Emirates about. Of course. Right, yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But when I was in there, when I was in Abu Dhabi, I remember Anthony Anderson was there, and he had just came back from Saudi Arabia.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And the woman who was with him was like a woman who, I guess handles, like, the entertainment and stuff over there. So she was like, oh, you know, Charlamagne. And she was talking to me and Anthony and all of them were talking to me about how Saudi Arabia is, you know, they already leaning into sports, but now they about to be leaning in entertainment. And then, you know, you hear other people talk about the fact that their oil reserves are depleting, so they gotta find other ways to get money. I don't know if that's true or not. I'm just saying what they say.

[Andrew Schultz]

Maybe.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But we do know they are making a large investment into sports and entertainment. That we know it might. So why did the comedians get so much flack but golf doesn't? They're talking about doing a basketball league. I don't know if this is true.

[Andrew Schultz]

Too, but I got wwe, they got usc, they got all this shit.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Ufc. They're talking about doing a basketball league. I think I saw it with Bron and Maverick. I don't know if that's true. I'm just telling you what they were saying. Why did the comedians get the flag?

[Andrew Schultz]

Here's why. This is my opinion, and this is where, like, comedians can take accountability. We have politicians on our podcast, and when you have politicians on your part, you know this more than anybody. Once you have a politician on your platform, you enter yourself into the political mudslinging discourse.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

And politics is a zero sum game. So, for example, it's like if Charlemagne has liberals on the podcast and you back Kamala, and whatever, you are seen by the people that are your opposition as evil. And any chance they get to show that you're a hypocrite or show that you're bad or you do anything, they do it. Because that is the political game. In a game of power, you use whatever you can to maintain power and to make your opposition look bad. So we had the politicians on the pot, which I don't regret, but we had the politicians on the. On the pod.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Say it again.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't regret it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't regret it.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you shouldn't for a fucking second. Not for a second. So. But we hadn't want so we have to be accountable for the fact that, like, now we're part of the political discourse. And the political discourse is, how can I call you a hypocrite? Or how can I say that you're not living up to my purity test? And then it launched into this whole thing with the. The Saudi fest. But, like, it really has nothing to do with Saudi. It has to do with the fact that, like, they're these political figures. We're not political, we're comedians. But there are these people that are in that conversation. How can we malign them? How can we do it? Different people got different things. Bill Burr was getting criticism for one thing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Bill Burr got criticism because to your.

[Andrew Schultz]

Point, we almost got. We got like, zero criticism. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Because we were the only one from y'. All. They expect y' all to do this. They don't expect Bill Burr to do it. They're like, bill Burr, no, you're supposed to be our liberal woke champion. You know, you got. We got you on this pedestal. And they was like, what? You're over there performing for the Saudis. And it's not Bill's fault, but it's just that they look at Bill in a pure way and he maybe, maybe.

[Andrew Schultz]

You could argue, like, his more recent material presented one thing. I think people were frustrated with him even before because I think that, you know, Bill's, like, one of the most prolific ever. And he was doing a lot of, like, women are annoying jokes that he's the best at.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And I think he built his WNBA reality show jokes. He's phenomenal, top tier.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I think he built up a right wing audience who maybe kind of like, sided with a lot of that sentiment. And then when he started maybe leaning left, which you can do as you feel different things in the world. You're allowed to change. You're a human being at the end of the day. But when he started to lean left with the material, all those people on the right felt kind of like abandoned and felt criticized maybe by him. So they were waiting for a moment where he was a hypocrite.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And then Bill got the look too, though. Cause, I mean, you hear what comes out of his mouth, but when you see him, you know what I mean? Bald head, white guy, you like, yo, that's one of us.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I'm saying? He hates his wife like I hate.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly. So you see his look, you hear one good WM paid reality joke, like, ah, I got him. And then when the whole manosphere bro thing, whatever they was trying to create Come up. You just lump him in that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And then you hear him and you're like, whoa.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Whoa, whoa, buddy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know, so I can see why that could have been confusing. I can see how both sides could have been confused.

[Andrew Schultz]

I felt. I felt bad for the certain people.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I felt bad for, like, who?

[Andrew Schultz]

I felt bad for Aziz a little bit. Because Aziz really got canceled on some bullshit back in the day. This is like height of me too. You know what I mean? And like some girl pulled some bullshit and he got fucked up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I remember, I remember.

[Andrew Schultz]

And he was just coming back like he got a movie coming out, like, and he just took his gig and they were doubling down. Like Kimmel kind of went at him at a Z's.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, I missed all of that. I'm be honest with you. This was like a comedian civil war. Because it was mostly comedians I saw criticizing other comedians and comedians sticking up for other comedians. It didn't really get much traction outside of the comedy world. It started to, but then people realized, like, nah, this shit ain't got the heat.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what I was saying on flager. I'm like, yo, this is nowhere on my timeline.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was. It started to.

[Andrew Schultz]

But listen, this is what I tell comedians. Like, so like, a lot of the comedians that were like, involved in this are operating in like the euphoric stage of a stand up career, right? It's like they just started posting clips and they got a fan base and they toiled in obscurity for decades. They got a fan base. They're the unsung hero of their fans. Like, I remember this stage where like, they're like, yo, you're the truth. Nobody else knows you but us. They could tour, they can make tons of money, but they haven't transcended into like pop culture yet.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what happened is only a few do, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, that's true. But what happened is this comedy festival kind of pushed into what they thought was pop culture for a second. So they started getting all this hate. And I think a lot of them were like, oh, my God, I worked my whole life to have fans and now it looks like all my fans hate me. They don't realize that it's this fake outrage thing. In two weeks, nobody will give a fuck. A week from today, nobody will mention the Saudi comedy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Did I mention it?

[Andrew Schultz]

Now?

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what I'm saying. We're giving it more. We're giving it another week.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, I had to get backseat.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm with you. I'm with You.

[Andrew Schultz]

I had to be alive with you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm with you. We're giving it another week. I also will say too, to all of those new up and coming comedians, if you're getting fake outrage, you've arrived. It's just the reality of the situation. It's when they don't give a fuck is when there's an issue. Okay, if they're on your timeline and they're giving you fake outrage, cool.

[Andrew Schultz]

But they don't realize that those people are not their fans. They're the people that are perennially outraged. So they think it's their fans that are all leaving them. And the Internet can make you feel like that. Once you've gone through enough Internet shit like we have for fucking decades, you realize it's all bullshit.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Numb to it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. But they're not. It's like the first time for them. So they freaked out. They're like, I'm pulling out of the festival, I'm giving my money back, I'm donating it to charity.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And guess what? Nobody gives a fuck and nobody cares.

[Andrew Schultz]

And now you lost all your money.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You lost all your money and nobody's patting you on the back. There's no reward for, you know, you doing what these motherfuckers have forced you to do. All of these people will get online, have all of this outrage towards you. Then when you do what you want them to do, they'll say, no, you never should have took it in the first place. We know who you are now, man. Get the fuck outta here. And I don't know who they are.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're never gonna make it. You gotta be unapologetic. And that's the thing that, like, I think, on brilliant, it's been great. On flagrant, it's been great. We've never been to virtue signaling motherfuckers. No, we're assholes through and through. We're brilliant idiots through and through.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So even when I believed what I believed, I believed it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, and I'll call you gay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's it. You know what I'm saying? And you never gonna hear me say something that I don't believe. Now will I stay there? Probably not. Because I'm always taking in new information.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're allowed to.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And I allow myself to grow and evolve, unlike so many other motherfuckers out here who get stuck in a caricature.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yup.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They're afraid to pivot, they're afraid to grow, they're afraid to evolve. They just spend their whole life virtue signaling for a bunch of motherfuckers who never come. You don't realize that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I do.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Batman. Sign. In the end, that motherfucker never comes to fight you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Never ever.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Never, never, ever.

[Andrew Schultz]

And now you censored by your own audience. You talking all this free speech shit, but you can't even have your own opinion. You got to make sure your opinion lines up with your own audience. If you're going to be censored by your own audience, just get a job at Comedy Central.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Get a job. Get a job at cbs.

[Andrew Schultz]

Get a job at someone who's going to dictate what you can or can't say. What's the point of being an independent content creator if you can't do the things you want independently?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I will say this, though. I'm glad you brought that up. There is a misconception that people in corporate America have people telling them what to say. And there's also a misconception that people online are free. And what I mean by that is there's people on these networks, not a lot of them, but there's people that are willing to take these risks, right, that work for corporate America. And then there's people who have the independent platforms who, at the first sign of some outrage, the first sign of threat of demonetization, the first sign of a lawsuit. That's what I'm saying. So who's really free? Freedom is just being free and not being scared.

[Andrew Schultz]

Freedom is being yourself.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Being your fucking self.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sometimes yourself is going to piss people off. Sometimes it might upset your fan base. But if they actually fuck with you for you, not because you're a voice for the things, they already feel like they know you as you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes. They'll.

[Andrew Schultz]

They'll be upset at you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And then I'll be like, all right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I like that other shit.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't like when I know exactly how a motherfucker is boring. I'm like, all right, I already know what that person going to do. I know what that person going to do. Like, who's out there really just sitting back looking at things from an objective viewpoint? Like, even with the Saudi shit, I don't think anybody sat back and looked at it from an objective viewpoint. First thing I thought to myself was, okay, what are they mad about exactly? Why can't you perform in Saudi Arabia? Because I'm so confused that y' all let all of the sports people go over there, right? There's entertainers that's been going over there getting checked. Why is all of a sudden the comedians getting backlash? And it's not like Saudi just got in the game. Saudi been around for a decade plus dropping bags on shit they just bought. EA fucking.

[Andrew Schultz]

So that's the beautiful thing. You better stop playing FIFA. If I catch you playing FIFA.

[Charlamagne tha God]

FIFA, you better catch. If I catch you playing FIFA, I fo fum. Madden.

[Andrew Schultz]

Madden. If I catch you playing any of these games, bro, you a sellout. Why you selling out NBA 2 cave. Wow. This is what I'm saying. It's like all these comedians, like, put their. Like, what is it? Drew a line in the sand or whatever. They put their foot down. It's like you're going to now have to pass that purity test over the next few views and people are going to remember you said this.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's look this up. Let's see what Saudi Arabia had. What is it, Rider?

[Andrew Schultz]

Riyadh.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Riyadh. What has Saudi. Oh, let's.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, Charlotte.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, Saudi. What happened?

[Andrew Schultz]

Saudi Arabia.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Arabia and Ryda. What is. How you spell it? Riyadh And Riyadh invested in. In America. Let me see. See, because I need to know, bro. Because I really was just looking. I'm like, I know they invested in mad sports and like that how you embrace AI.

[Andrew Schultz]

This was no way. I know AI. Did you. Once it started talking in his own voice, he was like, ah, this ain't that bad. He love this.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Gave me a hold. I just want sports and entertainment. My guy. Hold on. No, just give me sports and entertainment. Okay, Just give me sports.

[Andrew Schultz]

But we don't even.

[Charlamagne tha God]

To me, it's like, no, I like to hammer the point hook.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right. Hammer it off.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Sometimes you gotta hammer the point hole.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hammer.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But they hear you talking and they be like, really?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay. Liv Golf, PGA tour, Golf, FIFA Club World Cup, ATP Tennis, Dazn. Oh, we knew that. With the boxing project B is the new basketball league. Entertainment Live Nation concert and live events, video games, esports, digital entertainment. So Piff invested in Live Nation Entertainment, owner of Ticketmaster. You know what I'm saying, bro?

[Andrew Schultz]

It's. It's.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Saudi capital has big. Yeah, it's all. It's everything. It's too much for you to just be mad at the comedian.

[Andrew Schultz]

Even if they didn't do any of it. If I got fans there, I'm performing for you. Simple as that. I'll perform anywhere my fans are.

[Charlamagne tha God]

DL Hughley said, if you not mad at golf, don't be mad at fucking comedians. I think he said, maybe it was the wrestlers. He said, if you're not mad at wwe, don't be mad at Comedians. I don't remember what the fuck it was. One of them.

[Andrew Schultz]

100%. 100%. And also there's like this thing about the money that I think is so funny.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Like, yeah, let's talk about that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because comedians made this thing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that bag.

[Andrew Schultz]

Comedians made it seem like it was like this life changing money. They were being sarcastic. There was a few comedians that said.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Like, shut your rich ass up, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm just telling you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, man, Shut your rich ass up.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you. I know what everybody got.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You gotta.

[Andrew Schultz]

It takes four days to do one show in Saudi Arabia, right? You fly there for a day, you fly back for a day, you do a show for the day. Maybe you want to do one day before so you can kind of get to know the place you're talking. If you do four shows in America, if you're doing four arenas in four cities in four days, which is like what we'll do if we're on tour.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Because everybody's doing arenas. If you do four arenas, everybody's doing arenas.

[Andrew Schultz]

I can't help you. I can't help you. I can only. I can only show you the game, bro. I can only show you the game. That's all I can do is show you the game.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm just saying it is what it is.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But people not wanting us to be who the we are. Why did it get so mad? Why are you so mad that I'm talking to you about my life? You can't appreciate this shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why can't they?

[Charlamagne tha God]

You watched it from the beginning.

[Andrew Schultz]

But ours, our fans do though. It's the people that weren't there from the beginning. Yeah. That get upset, man. It's the ones that weren't there from the beginning that get upset.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm telling you now. Go back, Go back. Okay. You can do four readers in four days. In what?

[Andrew Schultz]

Or if you are, there's a bunch of comedians, like, you can make the same money. It's the same money. Like, so it's not this. Oh, you're just going there for the money. You know, if you go in there for the money, then you made a mistake. Cause you can make it here.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I just want you to know at this point, right now, you're only talking about five comedians. Yeah, you're talking Dave, Chris. Okay, who else does arenas? I don't know who else does arenas. What's my man name? Russell. Russell Peters.

[Andrew Schultz]

Peters, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Like, who else? Like, you I can only talk about what I know. Shane Gillis. Yeah, you're talking about four or five people tops. Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

I can only talk about.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, so what if you're a comedian who does, like, you do your comedy clubs on the weekends.

[Andrew Schultz]

Maybe you got a crazier bag and maybe it was really great for you. I can't. I don't know how much they made, and I can't speak on that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Give me a basic bag for Ryder. Not your bag. Just give me, like, what you. What you heard. Like, what's the lowest number you heard? Somebody got.

[Andrew Schultz]

The lowest.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Lowest I heard was like 350.

[Andrew Schultz]

So. Yeah, so imagine you're a comedian that's making $2,000 a weekend doing comedy clubs or like $3,000 a weekend doing comedy clubs. And you get that. That's like 50 for four days. That's life changing money for you. So there's no question at all.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm just saying, like the headlining acts of the people that were getting scrutiny saying that they, they threw away their morals for the money. It's. It's not accurate. It's just not. Because they can make that money back home. They can make that money when they tour. Right. It's. I would assume. And I'm maybe giving them the best. I'm giving them the most grace here. But like, I'm assuming they did it for. The reason I did is like, they have fans there and they want to perform for their fans. Like, that's, that's why I think you should do it anywhere.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What did you think of Dave's comments? Pull up Dave's comments, Alex. Cause I don't want to misquote him when he said that. Pull it up. Probably. Let me see. Let's see.

[Andrew Schultz]

With the Charlie Kirk shit.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. I just want to quote. I just want to quote it correctly.

[Andrew Schultz]

I need to know the whole context because, like, the headline is so stupid that it can't be the whole context.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Because I think I kind of understood what he was saying. Right? Really? He said, okay, yeah. During his headlining set at the Writer Comedy Festival in October, Dave Chappelle made the following remarks criticizing free speech in the US it's easier to talk here than it is in America right now. In America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, you'll get canceled, adding. I don't know if that's true, but I'm gonna find out now. I feel like. And correct. I could be wrong here. I feel like what he was trying to do was almost like Shame America into never being a country of free. Of not being a country of free speech. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm over here in this foreign country that's known for muzzling people, and I feel like it's easier to talk here than it is in America.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I mean, like, and again, I don't. I don't like judging people off, like, one line because a lot of shit can be taken out of context. But, like, and I assume Dave is not that retarded, so, like, there must be something more that goes along with it. But, like, yeah, it's easier to talk about Charlie Kirk there because they don't even know the fuck that guy is. They think he's the guy from Star Trek.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Good point.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right. So it's like.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Good point.

[Andrew Schultz]

But if you try to talk about Muhammad there, it might be a little more difficult than if you talk about Muhammad in America.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Good point.

[Andrew Schultz]

So I. But again, I don't know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's a good point. That's a great point.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know the full thing that he said. Like, he could have undercut it with a joke, but the headline is removing that. So I'm giving him benefit of the doubt for not being that stupid.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I wonder if he would have kept Charlie Kirk out of it. Would it have made a larger point if he would have just said, yo, it's easier to talk here than it is in America right now? Which is probably still. Which probably still isn't true, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, of course not.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But you. But you went over.

[Andrew Schultz]

America's the only country where you could say, whatever. It's also a very different thing. Like, we're American comedians and like foreign comedians going over to this big festival. Like, realistically speaking, even if you said the craziest shit, you really think you're getting arrested and chopped up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You never know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nobody else is going to Saudi Arabia if that happens, so they're not going to do it. So we have probably the most free speech and the most protection ever over there. Hey, listen. Because it would make them look so bad.

[Charlamagne tha God]

When you're making good points, you're making good points. You ain't wrong. When you're right, you're right. That's why anytime. And if you're trying to make an investment in the sports and entertainment world and you want to see him welcoming to America, you're going to be very welcoming to America.

[Andrew Schultz]

Honestly, that might have been the most free you could ever be anywhere. Because if you get locked up and fucked up there that weekend, it screws up anybody going there for a long time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, you're right.

[Andrew Schultz]

So they're not about. They're not stupid. Like, they're not going to let that happen. That's why I knew I could say whatever the fuck I want out there. Now, that being said, the people there, they might feel a different way, but in terms of, like, can you say more in America? Or there, it's like, you can not. There's not a country on the planet that you can say more than America. We are the outlier. We are the unique one, and that's what makes us the best in the world.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I wonder if comedians who gave the money back are pulled out. I wonder if they were rewarded by people showing up to these shows here in America.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, they're not.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I'm saying? I know they not, because the people.

[Andrew Schultz]

Showing up to their shows weren't the ones angry.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, it's. It's.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's a fake outrage thing that they're not used to because they haven't transcended into this, like, pop culture conversation where, like, every single day, people need to be outraged at something. Fortunately or unfortunately, we've been through that for years, so we know, like, okay, they're fake upset about this. What are they fake up? What is the Duval thing? What do you fake upset about?

[Charlamagne tha God]

What do you fake outraged about? The day, man, the people who love you, love you, and they know you, and they follow you enough to know who you are and what you're about.

[Andrew Schultz]

Unless, of course, you've built your entertainment identity around one political philosophy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Then those people don't really love you. They love the fact that you agree with them.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And the second you disagree with them, they go, I guess I don't really love that guy. But you decided to glom onto something that existed. You know, some might say grift off of something, and then when they found out who you really are, which is not this perfect, pious person, then they're like, ooh, he's been lying to me the whole time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I wish people knew that the shit y' all think motherfuckers is grifting about is the shit we don't get paid for, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's the shit we lose money on.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly. It's the wildest shit. Motherfuckers, they be like, are you grifting off mental health? What money have I made off mental health? I've spent way more money investing in other people's mental health and my own.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't even get A discount from his therapy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't even get a discount from my therapist, bro. I do the Mental Wealth Expo for free. We was at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Events center this weekend in Newark, New Jersey. We've been doing it the last four years in Times Square. You know why? We had to move it to Newark number one. I like Newark better.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Newark is already better.

[Andrew Schultz]

Depressing. You can't bring already sad people into Newark. It's gonna be a mass suicide.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I like Newark better. You know what I'm saying? I think it's a city that needs it more, but also the venue is more affordable. You understand what the I'm saying? So y' all don't even know what the hell y' all be talking about 99 of the time. It's.

[Andrew Schultz]

It is what it is, bro. It is what it is.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What that bag was like, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'll tell you. I'll tell you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You told me that last week. I forgot to text you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I' ma text you again.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I just like the note.

[Andrew Schultz]

Alex did a joke. I did. We brought him on stage to do a joke.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, you got a bag.

[Andrew Schultz]

Alexa, a couple bucks.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Write it down. Write it down.

[Andrew Schultz]

Technically, I headlined.

[Charlamagne tha God]

If you were a comedian.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I headlined the joke if you were a comedian. Yeah, he is. He was on stage doing a joke.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, if you were.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let me see if I can get up this joke.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's say you did four comedy club. You just say you did two weekends at a comedy club. Bag bigger than that.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's not getting paid by Riyadh. He's getting paid by Andrew. Yeah, so ask him.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure he still take care of you, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's good. I always. I always do. Yeah. You want to see Al's joke?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let me see Al's joke. No, no, no, no.

[Andrew Schultz]

We don't have to do that here.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let me see Al's joke. It's on the special.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hold on, let me get it up right now. I'll show it to you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Right? Did they laugh?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You murder.

[Andrew Schultz]

Come on. I got this. Okay, I need to bring out all the guys, then. Let me bring out all the guys. Give it up for the whole Flavor Crew, Akash Singh.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay. Looking like one of them we've all been waiting for.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay. All right, all right, guys. Be polite. Fight. First time doing it, and he's doing stand up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You can't buy him.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just need to make sure everyone knows this is not a bidding.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hilarious.

[Andrew Schultz]

I saw some people in the back throwing out number 300, 400, 500. No, no, we cannot do that. Okay, Alex, take it away. But how much, though? This cast. This is the real Dubai chocolate.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You offer to get on?

[Andrew Schultz]

No. All right, watch this. So I'm blanking completely. We need a little support. He dressed as a Lebanese train conductor.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I need you to focus on your support.

[Andrew Schultz]

You remember the topic? Yeah. Okay, now we got it. Now we got it. So I do love being out here.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Watch this case.

[Andrew Schultz]

The fits go hard. I love that fit. I love that fit right here. It's really the only place that I could be surrounded by a bunch of dudes in white sheets and not be.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Afraid of for my life.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a good joke, bro. That's a good joke. Nah, you hate that. You hate. You're not on the Breakfast Club. He's not rapping.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was one foot in the grave. It's kind of. It was kind of like a Special Olympic shot, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's what it is.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's kind of like the Special Olympic.

[Andrew Schultz]

Shot we put the autistic kid. At the end of the fourth corner, he started hitting some threes. It was. It is.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It is. It is. This student who has special needs was pass the ball at the final seconds of the game. He took the shot from three and missed, but the opponents actually grabbed the rebound and then gave him the ball again to shoot one more time. This time, he hits the shot at the buzzer, and all of his teammates run over to celebrate. I like, get up there and do.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stand up for the first time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I like the beginning, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

I liked his cadence when he goes, your fits go hard. Like a ball was bouncing over each word. When you watched the kids show.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Nah, I like completely blanking on something. And then Andrew had to come put his hand around you and let you know. That's okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's okay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Rub his back. You are a strong boy. You're a strong little boy. You can go out there and get this shot and get this shot.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Congratulations. That was good.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo. You're very brave.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That was good.

[Andrew Schultz]

We about to be fighting out here like that's a podcast right now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That was good, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Good.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Audie Alex. Little Audie Alex in Saudi Arabia.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That was good.

[Andrew Schultz]

Listen, I gotta laugh, though.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, you did. You did. I mean, it's just like when they chill, when the kid makes the shot.

[Andrew Schultz]

At the game, when you bring the.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Little kid out there in the wheelchair, you know what I'm saying? He shoots the basket, it goes in the hoop. Everybody, even if it don't go in the hoop. Everybody cheers.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, yeah. If it was a bad joke, huh?

[Andrew Schultz]

If it was a bad joke, I would have got it. Our fans are real.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, it wasn't a bad joke. It was you. I heard. I heard in my. A little bit. Just keep digging your. No, just keep digging your. Stop. It didn't get to the N word, though. Keep digging your brain. Whatever. Oh, I'm glad y' all had fun, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Man, we had a great time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

Stephen A. Smith. Did you see Stephen A. Smith? Which one is that? Pull up. Click on pull up now. If you remember back in the day. Not back in the day. Earlier this year after the Super Bowl, Stephen A. Smith had some words for Alexis Ohanian and Serena Williams. Alexis Ohanian is the husband of Serena Williams. If I'm married and my wife is going to join trolling her ex, go back to his ass. Cause clearly you don't belong with me. What you worried about him for? And you with me. And so Alexis pulled up on first take. Now he pulled up on first take. But Stephen A. Smith wasn't there. Stephen A. Smith was there. Virtually. So I. Oh yeah. Let's play this, play this, let's play. Here it goes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stephen A. Smith, you had some, I think you had some marriage advice for me, is that right?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Or. Well, you know what, listen, I didn't. People, you know, headline to headlines. We can get into that another time. But I did.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was hoping you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Were gonna be here. But, but, oh, I'm not. Oh no, no. I am not qualified. Married. Oh no, not me.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, that's.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I ain't qualified, my brother. I'm not qualified.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was, I was gonna ask because if you hadn't been married before. Right? I am married. No, no. Okay. Okay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Because I, I give advice to plenty of founders who want to build billion dollar companies. And the reason I do that is because I build billion dollar companies.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So I generally try to stay in my lane as an advice.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Then we'll talk marriage advice later. I'm 13 years strong. We got deal. Alexis, thank you so much.

[Andrew Schultz]

Athlos NYC two night event in New York. He didn't need all that billion dollar company. He had him at the. When Stephen A. Smith was doing the. That's all folks.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Rub it in. Exactly. But here's my thing. This is what I say. Click, listen, go back. Click One over. This is what I said.

[Andrew Schultz]

Listen, what Alex, what Alexis Ohanian did.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Or whatever, I don't see nothing wrong what he said. You know what I mean? I don't see nothing wrong with it. But it wasn't a real pull up. A pull up is when the person is there and you say what you need to say to the person's face. Like, I know Alex is a busy person, but First Take asked him to come on. He should have said, is Stephen A gonna be there? And when they said he's gonna be there remotely, he should have said, I'll wait until he's in the studio. If you really wanted to say something to his face. I respect pull ups when it's said to a person's face. I think y' all be doing backflips just because he said it while Stephen A. Was remote. No, I want to see you say it to a person's face. You know what Birdman wanted to say? What he said to me. Birdman called a week in advance to say, I'm coming on this day and I want to make sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you thought it was soft for him to do it and. And Stephen A not be there?

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, I don't think it was soft for him to do it. It was the reaction that everybody gave it. You know what I'm saying? That's a like you're talking via Zoom now. Alexis left a comment and said, all my friends call me Alexis to you. Yes. And I asked to come on First Take to chat with Stephen A. Smith for quite some time. Keep in mind, I own a handful of pro sports teams and started a TF league. There's plenty of sports stuff to talk about. And my publicist kept getting told it wasn't gonna happen. Then I went to the top and made it clear I wanted to come on this show to chat in person, and they let it happen. Then I found out when I got to the studio, Stephen A. Smith was remote from ATL that morning. Odd timing, but I'm back to building now. At LOS was indeed a huge success and have no ill will towards Stephen A. Smith. I don't have a problem with, you know, Alexis saying what he said. I'm just saying don't act like, you know, y'. All. Don't act like this kid from the Special Olympics making a shot and Alex telling a joke and writing and everybody going crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

You, he's a hater because he's scared to do stand up himself.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying. It's just like, yo, everybody does these backflips. It's like, yo, Stephen A. Smith was via Zoom. And I'm not saying that Alexis wouldn't have said that to his face. I'm sure that Alexis would have. I just. When you say pull up, I respect the face to face confrontation.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Before Birdman came on Breakfast Club, Malcolm. Malcolm used to work for Universal. Called a week in advance.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hey, Stunner wants to come on the show on this date. Are you going to be there? Yes, I will be there. You sure? Because he only wants to come if you're going to be there. Yes, I will be there. I'm fully aware of the things that I've said about Birdman. I understand he wants to confront me. See, I'm not one of these media personalities that says things but then ducks any type of smoke. Cause I think that's whack. What people don't realize, even on Breakfast Club interviews, there's not one Breakfast Club interview that I couldn't have edited. We pre tape. None of this stuff is live. So when you see beating Siegel or Fredro or who else? Masterpiece. Whoever it was, Dame dad, any of these people, I could have edited all of that or not put it out. That's not fair for me to get on the microphone, say what I want to say about people and not be there. Now, on Stephen A's side, if y' all tell me Alexis is gonna be there, unless there's something super, super duper pressing and I got to be out.

[Andrew Schultz]

Of town, I'll be there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm gonna be in studio. I'm not even gonna get on Zoom and talk to this man for however long he spoke to him before. Alexis said something at the end. Because I'm fully aware of what I said to this person. So I wanna be in studio to have said conversation. And either I'm gonna stand on what I said, or I'm gonna apologize for what I said, or I might stand on it and say, yeah, I did say that. But, yo, my bad. You know what I'm saying? I understand your perspective of where you coming from. I'm just telling everybody, like, don't treat this like the white guy that can dance. You know, the white guy that can dance. Everybody loses their mind. He's just doing a regular basic dance. Like Alexis said, what he said. But I respect it more when it's just face to face.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, it's not Alexis fault, but both of them.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's why I said, if I'm Alexis, I need to make sure, Stephen A is there.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now, if Stephen A decides not to show up, isn't that on him?

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's why I said I need to make sure. If I'm Alexis, Stephen A is there. I don't need to. Yo, if Stephen A gonna be there, is Stephen A gonna be there? I don't wanna come through the show, but is Stephen A going to be there? Cause I got some things I need to say to Stephen A. Athletes do that all the time. Athletes be like, oh, no, I got something to say to Stephen A. I want to make sure Stephen A is there. Stephen A would make sure he was there. If an athlete had something to say to him, he wouldn't do it face to face and we wouldn't like it. Imagine if KD was. Remember when Kyrie Irving and Stephen A were having they shit?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Imagine if Kyrie was like, yo, I want to come to first take. We wouldn't like that shit. The same if Stephen a was on FaceTime and Kyrie was in. Oh, forget Kyrie, Stephen and Bron.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why was he there? Who, Alex?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Alexis. He was Alexis promoting. It says on the thing he was promoting some shit I can't pronounce. Hold on. It's called Atlos. What is Atlos A, T, H, L, O, S. I don't know. So he was there to promote Atlos. But see, this, this is my problem. Look at all these headlines. Serena Williams husband Alexis Oyen confronts Stephen A. Smith over super bowl comments. Billionaire Destroy Star over divorce. Laughing. It's like it was over Zoom.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but it's also like, if he doesn't say anything, then it looks soft on his part.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't have a problem.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're basically saying, like, the Internet is doing what the Internet does, but also in order.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's not a pressing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but the thing is, like, in order to get anybody to click on anything, it needs to be the craziest headline.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Conflict.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, people. I don't think anybody watching were like, oh, shit. Like, I think the headlines are way crazier than the actual reaction. But I think you do give the guy credit for going on to going to someone's workplace and calling them out what they said.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I have no problem with it. Just make sure the person is home. And you get a lot more points from me if you slam dunk on a person with your nuts in his face.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you're basically saying he's getting too many points. You respect him doing it, but you would give him even more points if Stephen was there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I can dunk on dwight Howard via FaceTime. If you call Dwight on FaceTime right now, I'd dunk on him. Call Shaq right now. I'd be like this on FaceTime. Can't do it in real life. And I'm not saying Alexis wouldn't.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm just saying you get more props for doing it. Okay, I'll give you another. You ever seen the video of the guy, like a Arab or something, and he's playing on, like, the Nerf goal.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yeah, I love that guy. He's, like, in an office, but it's.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Not like it's real basketball.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but that shit's fire.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's fire.

[Andrew Schultz]

The finger roll's crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay? So that's cool. But it's a difference. When you're watching somebody do it in real life, not knocking Alexis, I thought, you know, you defend your wife. Cool. I'm just saying I'm a person. That when you call something a pull up, when you call something oppressive.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, he never called it. He didn't do that. This is the Internet.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Nothing. Nothing I said has to do with Alexis.

[Andrew Schultz]

You think he's just getting. You think he's getting the disabled kid points?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes. From the Internet. But by the way, the Internet don't even know what pressing is anymore. That's why when you see two people in a studio having a conflict and going back and forth, you on the edge of your seat. Cause you like, oh, my God.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is a real interaction.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't know where this could go. Right. And we come from the era of fucking. What was it? Chris Everett? I don't remember. Whatever it was. Choking out Jim Rome.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, that's right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You understand what I'm saying? We come from that. So I come from a different era where I like to see the pull up or the pressing, the confrontation, they gotta be in each other's face. I didn't even know that Stephen a. Was on FaceTime till I watched the video. Because of how the Internet was reacting, right? So the Internet's making it seem like I'm like, oh, shit, I gotta go watch this. And I watch it.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm like.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Like what? I think zoom.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I think to them, it's no different. Like, they're used to watching conflict on zoom. They're used to watching debate on zoom. They're used to watching, like, somebody own somebody on zoom. Like, it's almost normal to them.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And this is why. This is when I become the old man. Yeah, we're old I don't respect it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I'm saying? I like face to face conferences.

[Andrew Schultz]

But that's. I mean, not to bring it back.

[Charlamagne tha God]

People get real sporty when it's over. Zoom.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's not to bring about the Saudi. It's like a lot of people saying what they would or wouldn't do.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You didn't even get the opportunity.

[Andrew Schultz]

Go, but. Go there and do it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Go there and do it.

[Andrew Schultz]

But that's what I said. Like, you could say whatever you want about, oh, they're gonna hold back and they're gonna do this. And it's like, all right, well, I'll put my setup and you tell me if I held back. You tell me if I didn't talk about the government, if I didn't talk about the family, if I didn't do all these shit. Now you're still gonna. There's still gonna be people whining and commenting. They won't even watch the fucking thing because that's what they get off on. But the reality is, like, are you willing to pull up or not? And I think a lot of people would rather sit back and criticize than actually pull the up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Pull up. Let's have a conversation.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's have a conversation.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's always my thing. Let's have a conversation. I'm never afraid to have the conversation. Now, Alexis was clearly not afraid to have the conversation. Cause according to what he said to me on Breakfast Club AM Instagram page, he didn't even know Stephen A. Wasn't going to be there.

[Andrew Schultz]

That makes sense.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I believe that. But I'm just saying let's make sure he's there next time if you real. Especially over some shit like your wife. But next time.

[Andrew Schultz]

Next time is too much time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He's not even doing it. Next Thursday, he's even dead. It's over. It's gone. It's gone. Like he said, he's back to running his companies. It's gone. But. But the moment would have been. That's a 10. 10 if you catch him in studio. Yeah. That's all I'm saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I give him a lot of credit. First time getting on national television in front of a lot of people and doing his thing. I give him mad credit. He killed that. He killed that shit. He had his first time in front of national television and he went viral. Crazy moment right there is all I'm saying. Hater.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, I actually, you know, no, I give him credit because, you know, I'm thinking about it. You know, he was in Front of way more people than you were on that rider stage and didn't fold at all. He didn't need a pep talk like you was just how many people was at the rider stage. That wasn't live broadcasting.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, it was live in front of thousands of people.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Thousands of people.

[Andrew Schultz]

But he was in front of a camera crew. What you talking about?

[Charlamagne tha God]

That was live on tv, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, but he's just in front of.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Cameras and he didn't stutter. You know what's so cool about that? Listen, Stephen A. Smith.

[Andrew Schultz]

I hate you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen, Stephen A. Smith. Stephen A. Smith is the guy that goes on TV and gives it to people. He was the one stuttering, and he was. Via FaceTime, you were a little bit more Stephen a.

[Andrew Schultz]

A. I'll take it. I'll take Stephen A stuttered a little bit. You saying I'm the legend.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All right. Not in that moment, though. In that moment. Because if Stephen A. Doesn't stutter, the Internet don't give him this backlash.

[Andrew Schultz]

They don't care if he don't stutter.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Even if Stephen A. This would actually have.

[Andrew Schultz]

How could Stephen A. Not know it was gonna happen? Like, he's really so prepared.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Nah, you forget when you talk shit like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you ever walk in a room and, like, see people and be like, man, what have I said about that?

[Charlamagne tha God]

All the time.

[Andrew Schultz]

That shit is.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I read A.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sometimes live in the moment, sometimes you blank out.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do you know there's an actual study that says people remember insults for 20 years, but forget compliments within 30 days?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes. That's why. That from high school. You used to call Pissy Paul. Don't ever forget that shit. You know what I'm saying? I used to get called Boonky Nose in middle school. That shit stings now if I think about it, too.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I'm saying? I go on Facebook sometimes just to look at the people who used to call me that shit to make sure they still doing bad. You know what I'm saying? Straight up, put them in my clothes. Friends, see your life. That's what they can see me fucking thriving. God damn it. Okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

And I'm gonna remember this moment forever.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What moment?

[Andrew Schultz]

The guy I look up to on me the first time I went on stage. Damn, bro. Damn, bro.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I ain't on you.

[Andrew Schultz]

I enjoyed it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You used to be laughing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yeah, I saw you laughing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I laughed apart before.

[Andrew Schultz]

He didn't react at all until he said, man, I'm blanking right now. And then he took the phone out of My head.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm blanking right now. But you recovered.

[Andrew Schultz]

You recovered, though.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You recovered.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Now, if you wanted to see me in hysterics, don't. Yo. If he didn't recover and all of the comedians on the stage walked off, yo, and left him there by himself, that would've been Willy Walker suit. That would be. Oh, my God. Oh, that would have been hilarious. Now that would have been some cleaning.

[Andrew Schultz]

He just wants to see the world burn, bro. He don't want to make money.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He's the joker. He really is the joker. What happened to Saudis would have been like, we the ones supposed to be beheading things. We just watched this guy.

[Andrew Schultz]

This guy kill himself.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some motherfucking bills.

[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

Church announcements, man. Shit. I'm going down to Austin this weekend to do the F1 joint, so I'm excited about that. I'm going to play some paddle. I'm really going down to play paddle.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What's the F1 joint point?

[Andrew Schultz]

It's Formula One, the race.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I think I went to one of those. And I think I went to Abu Dhabi.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, they do have F1 in my.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, I went. I went there. I went. I was there in Abu Dhabi, it's fire.

[Andrew Schultz]

If you guys get a chance to go see F1, it's. It'll make you feel like a kid. You hear the cars and you just turn into a child again. It's. It's incredible. But I'm really going down there. Play paddle. The F1 guys love paddle. So we're gonna organize some games and then get it in. How about you, man?

[Charlamagne tha God]

My church announcements, man. Thank you to everybody who came to the Mental Wealth Expo this past weekend in Newark, New Jersey, man. Really appreciate y'. All. Anybody who wants to donate, go to mentalwealthalliance.org that's how you donate. But also, man, I want to tell everybody that I have this in my hand. This is the advanced readers edition galley for my guy, 2 Chainz. The voice in my head is God. It is his book that will be coming out on my book imprint, Black Privileged Publishing. It'll be on sale March 3rd of 2026. It's funny, I looked at this date and I was like, damn, Damn, March. Why we got the galleys already? I forgot we in October. You know what I'm saying? Like, March is right around the corner. So March 3, 2026, 2 Chainz, his book, the voice in my head is God. Okay? He says it's his most personal work yet. It is a fantastic read. If you love Titty boy, if you love 2Chainz, you are going to love the story of Taheed Epps. You know, that is his origin story. Every superhero got an origin story. Shit, every villain got an origin story. And this is 2 Chainz's origin story. So go out there and pre order it now. And I also want to tell y' all to go out there and pre order, man. One of my icons, right? I always tell y', all, I got four icons when it comes to entertainment. Four inspirations. Clarence Avant, Jay Z, Petey Green, and Arsenio Hall. It is a privilege and an honor to be publishing Arsenio Hall's memoir. You can go pre order that right now. Yes, we announced that. We announced that last week. It'll be out April 7, 2026. But you can pre order it now wherever you buy books, Just like you can go pre order two chain wherever you buy books. And I mean this sincerely. Arsenio hall has one of the best entertainment memoirs I have ever read. Because Arsenio is such an amazing storyteller. And there is nothing like that era of Hollywood in the 80s and 90s. Because you gotta think it was just all of these people who were just breaking through, and especially him being black and in late night. He was the only one, and he was the only one that was providing opportunities for the people who ended up being the coolest things in the culture and controlling the cool things. But America wasn't on it yet. Somebody like Snoop Dogg can come out and sell 800,000 records in a week, come back and sell another 800,000 records and still not be embraced by mainstream America quite yet. But he's on Arsenio Hall.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy, you know, who's governor of Arkansas, who ends up being one of the most transformational presidents ever knows. Oh, I need to go there. That's where the cool is. Tapping into an audience that everybody hadn't quite tapped into yet.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ooh.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay. I'm telling you.

[Andrew Schultz]

What an idea. What an idea.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But he did it and it worked. You know what I'm saying? I mean, just Arsenio is the Easy.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you're saying that I'm the Arsenio Harlem my generation.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No. Oh, could you. No. I think that. I don't know. Good questions. Arsenio did say I was the him of this generation.

[Andrew Schultz]

Damn, bro. But there's a racial component.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But he said that publicly. I know, but he said he said it publicly.

[Andrew Schultz]

You could see beyond color.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But no, there is something to that, though. There is something to the podcast.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, of course.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Being, you know, these platforms that are platforming people who the mainstream hasn't quite embraced yet, but they always end up being the next thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And that's what Arsenio did. Arsenio did that, you know, probably better than everybody at that time. You know what? I'm saying, so I just. Arsenio is one of them people that, you know. You know, they always say, don't meet your idols.

[Andrew Schultz]

But you met him.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All my idols have been super cool. I ain't never got to meet Petey Green because he was dead. God bless the day.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. It is nice when you meet someone you admire and they live up to the expectations.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Top tier human being. Hov. Top tier human being. Arsenio Hall, Top tier human being. So to be in a position to where I can, you know, publish one of my inspirations, memoirs.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hey, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Fire.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What else we got, Alex?

[Andrew Schultz]

Kylie Jenner's first song. Do we care about that?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Kylie Jenner put out a song.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, we gotta listen.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What do you mean, Kylie Jenner's first song?

[Andrew Schultz]

We gotta listen.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I might do it again.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do it on purpose, just to see how it ends.

[Charlamagne tha God]

King Kylie. Nah, that ain't it. Y' all, listen, man, you know, it just proves to me, all of y' all out there that think, you know, if you just got some money and money can get you a hit or money can allow you to market something like that, that. No, you gotta have this thing called talent. Yeah, that was that. It sounded like Kylie got in the studio and looked into Mike and was like, man, I'm blanking on everything right now. You like? Like, who the fuck came from the booth and put their head on her back and rubbed her back and was like. He complimented her on her outfit and told her she got this. That was horrible that.

[Andrew Schultz]

You did great, Al.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You did better than Kylie.

[Andrew Schultz]

You did great. I'm a slip. You did better than Kylie.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You did better than Kylie, bro. That was like, why?

[Andrew Schultz]

I think you just get bored, right? If you got a billion in the bank, you might as well make a song, right? Like, shit. We made one during COVID Yo, your.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Baby daddy is Travis Scott.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You need a. You can't come up with nothing better than that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, you need a holler at him. You need a holler at him.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Your nephews and niece's father is Kanye West. I know he's on the outs a little bit from the family right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

But he could use a little. God damn. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What was that? And then it's called fourth strike. She had three at bats. They gave her three at bats before that shit right there. Nah, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What else we got, Alex? Come on, man. Jesus Christ. Oh, yes. Oh, play hell, here I come. Now, this is. This was something else, man. And by the way, I Done heard Trump say this a few times. I think he's sincere about this.

[Andrew Schultz]

You had talked a couple weeks ago, you were doing an interview and you talked about how you hope to end the war in Ukraine because it might.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Help you get into heaven. How does. How it does.

[Andrew Schultz]

Does this help? Does this help? I mean, you know, I'm being a little cute.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven. Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

I really don't. I think.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I think I'm not. Maybe heaven bound. I may be in heaven right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

As we fly an Air Force One. I'm not sure I. I'm going to.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Be able to make heaven, but I. He said this a few times, bro. Wow. And. And Trump don't repeat the same jokes, really, unless he's talking about somebody. He said this a few times?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

This is kind of crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, why? Why?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Because people voted for him because of his Christian values.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nobody voted for him for his Christian values.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what they act like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Come on, bro.

[Charlamagne tha God]

A lot of Christians say they voted for him because of his Christian values.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a reach. That's a reach.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hey. That's what they say.

[Andrew Schultz]

Remember when they asked him what his favorite part of the Bible was? He's like, man, the whole thing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The whole thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a great answer.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's fire.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a great answer.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's fire. I'll say this, though, it is amazing to me that he don't believe in climate change, but he believes in heaven and hell. Just say it's a hoax like everything else. Why would Donald Trump believe in heaven and hell?

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, if he does believe in it, he just has to commit his life to Jesus and then he goes, no matter what, Jesus died for your sins. That's the crazy part. He's like, I'm so far gone that I. Yeah. Jesus is like, I don't know, man. I don't know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All you gotta do is just.

[Andrew Schultz]

I also think he's busting balls.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't know, bro. He said that a few times already. Yeah, but he's at that age where, like, he's saying stuff that you kind of gotta believe. Cause ain't no filter there, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think he's around. It's just like, imagine you're with your boys and you're talking about getting to heaven.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're like, man, I wouldn't even play like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

What would you say?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I know I'm going to heaven if there is one.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, you. Not after today.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Why? What the fuck did I do I.

[Andrew Schultz]

Fucked you or something? Not if Alex is at the game. I know. Say I bummed. Say I bombed. Say I bombed one more time. Say I bombed.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen, listen, listen. I don't know, bro. I wouldn't even play like that. Especially after we watched that video of that lady talking about all the celebrities she saw in hell. You don't remember that? Yeah, like, why even play like that? Yo.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait, what lady said the celebrity's in hell.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, Chilch wasn't here. He wasn't here when we played that video.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is this?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, that shit is terrifying.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know how I'm gonna find it, but.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, we don't gotta play that shit. That shit I don't even want to. No, that shit is terrifying. I don't even want. It's this lady who says she died and she went to. She had a Vincent.

[Andrew Schultz]

What happened? Are you going to.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Is it.

[Andrew Schultz]

You think there's like a non denominational.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, that shit don't matter. Like once I would think that after you leave this earthly realm, none of that matters. These are spirits at that point, you know what I'm saying? Like you gonna. And the funny thing is you might end up in there with. With deers you hit and just kept driving. You know what I'm saying? Spiders you done killed. So like, for real, like, you don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Everything makes it to heaven.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Every maybe we don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a good question. Like, are there no dogs in heaven?

[Charlamagne tha God]

What makes. They say all dogs go to heaven.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who said that?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Whoever the fuck made up that quote.

[Andrew Schultz]

But that was a book or a movie that wasn't like in the Bible.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I know one thing. There's no quote that say all humans go to heaven.

[Andrew Schultz]

That there are quotes that say that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That what?

[Andrew Schultz]

Those have been saved go to heaven, but not those that haven't been saved.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Don't believe that nonsense. I'm not going to say it's nonsense. I'm just saying everybody can't make it to heaven. You notice when people die, the pastor just automatically, you know, gets you into heaven. Everybody ain't in heaven. In Jehovah Witness religion, they say only 144,000.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's a crazy low number.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But think about how pure you would have to be.

[Andrew Schultz]

But why so specific?

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's why when I hear that, I'm like, okay, somebody knows something. Yeah, yeah, that's a specific. Only 144,000 people.

[Andrew Schultz]

That makes sense though. Like when you think about how hard it is to get in. If you don't let Jesus die for your sins. If you let Jesus die for your sins, then you in there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Shouldn't it be the most exclusive club on the planet?

[Andrew Schultz]

No. God sacrifices one and only son. So it doesn't have to be exclusive.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's giving you a great deal and you're just not exclusive accepting it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, I don't think. Well, here's the thing. This is what I would have liked to have seen. Jesus sacrifices his life. Anybody sacrificed their life, right? Anybody? I'm not. If we was in this room right now and one of us said, hey, man, I'm sacrificing my life for you to do this. And we all do this in some way, right? You dedicate things to them. You dedicate your life to them or your career. You are motivated to do something great by this person's death. Yeah. So Jesus dies for our sins. So we just say, fuck it, we gonna sin more and just keep asking for forgiveness over and over and over and over?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, because.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do we even try to do the right thing?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, I think once you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you would try to live a life that he would appreciate.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Try or do try. Cause it's not hard to do.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, no, it is hard to do because you're born a sinner.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Who says who?

[Andrew Schultz]

It's God.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Somebody sins, you really gotta go out your way to commit, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's true.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Somebody sins, you really gotta go out of your way to commit, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Like having sex with animals or whatever.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You understand what I'm saying? Murdering somebody. Yeah. You know, like, come on.

[Andrew Schultz]

Murdering someone feels easier than having sex with an animal.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Self defense. Murder. I. I understand.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's not murder. That's what. That's.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's self defense.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's self defense.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But going out to just do it. Serial killer. God damn. Steal it from people. God damn. What are the Ten Commandments?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, look them up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't even know them by heart.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, we gotta memorize.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's see how hard these things. Because. Because some of this shit is very hard to do, bro. You got to go out your way to commit some of these sins, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, let's see. Let's pull them up. All right, pull them up.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ten Commandments. Go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The Ten Commandments.

[Andrew Schultz]

Here we go. Here we go. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shall not have strange gods before me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's not hard. That's not difficult. That's easy because, you know, because it's not like I don't even know what a strange God means.

[Andrew Schultz]

Meaning, like, you don't have multiple gods.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Cows. And like, when people that used to worship cows. Exactly.

[Andrew Schultz]

All other religions. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, so now we stop worshiping cows, turn them to steak and hamburger where they belong.

[Andrew Schultz]

Facts. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Now, people try to use that for me, right? But always.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why are you taking it in vain, though? Because you. He calls himself God. But that's. I think that's blasphemy. I don't think that that's taken in.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But I say the God, T.J. i never say I'm the God God. Okay? Genesis chapter 1:26 says, God created man in his image. According to him.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're going to try to lawyer God right now?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm saying I can't take my father's name.

[Andrew Schultz]

What you mean. What do you mean?

[Charlamagne tha God]

My father is God. Genesis 1:26 says, God created man in his image according to his likeness. So when I look in the mirror, do I not see God? When you look in the mirror, do you not see God when you look in the mirror?

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, you're a devil.

[Andrew Schultz]

Devil. Oh, God.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But I'm just saying. You don't see it.

[Andrew Schultz]

No. Yeah. I don't know. All right. Remember to keep holy the Lord's day.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hold on. Let's talk about those first two.

[Andrew Schultz]

How hard.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How difficult is it to go out of your way for those first two?

[Andrew Schultz]

Right. You already fucked up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly. Remember to keep holy the Lord's day isn't every day. The Lord's Day.

[Andrew Schultz]

You could have called yourself Charlemagne. The Lennar. Yep.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Charlamagne.

[Andrew Schultz]

The Larry Charlamagne. The McKelvey.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But then I wouldn't be coming in God's name. I want people to see me and see the God. I want them to see God in me. I wanna. I want to do my job. I want God to show himself through me to other people. Look what I can do with this motherfucker.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. And that's why you got all these little kids harassing people on the street. They trying to be you. Yep.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How you mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

Y. They looking at you and they're doing Breakfast Club interviews to people on the street. Well.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, guess what? God isn't done with me yet. This is a journey. It is a process. Okay? That light is just getting brighter and brighter. God is not done with me yet.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right, Ready?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Remember to keep holy the Lord's day.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That can't just be Sunday, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, It's Saturday, but. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Huh?

[Andrew Schultz]

The Sabbath, Saturday.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's why the Jews take off on Saturday.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So when is Sunday?

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, the New Testament switched it. The Christians got to switch it up a little bit. They're like, we gonna do this on Sunday?

[Charlamagne tha God]

We don't even know the day. Now, if he gave us the day.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Then we could be like, all right.

[Andrew Schultz]

He did. On the seventh day. He rested. You gotta keep that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's Sunday, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, Saturday. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. The week starts. Sunday to them. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So we turned Saturday into a goddamn party day.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, listen, this is, you know, you just. You know where Christianity comes from. Look, you just said, God damn. You just took the Lord's name. You just took the Lord's name in vain.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So this ain't our fault, though. This is actually a technicality.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I mean. I mean, Middle Eastern people tend to run late, so I don't think it's weird that it's on a Sunday. It's a little bit there. All right, so. Honor thy father and mother. You honor thy mother.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I honor thy father and mother. You should go to hell if you disrespect your parents. But I get it, though, because some parents are pieces of shit and some parents have traumatized their kids.

[Andrew Schultz]

But you gotta honor him.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Not if. What if your daddy diddled you?

[Andrew Schultz]

Honor that diddle.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, you don't. Honor.

[Andrew Schultz]

According to God. According to God. You got it? God.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's no. He don't say there's no but. Thou shalt not kill.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's easy.

[Andrew Schultz]

You got battle.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're not you. But. But what? Kill what?

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Kill what?

[Andrew Schultz]

Killed his beat like Kylie did.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

If you killed a beat like Kylie did.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We've killed mosquitoes, we've killed spiders, we've hit roll. You know what I'm saying? Kill some pussy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Turn me to Stephen A. Smith right there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm just saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think it's, thou shall not murder, but thou shall not commit adultery. We don't even want to go into that one. Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But I prayed for my sins. I prayed. I prayed for God to have me repent for my sins. And I changed.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's the key. That's what I'm saying about Jesus. So if you talk that shit. So if you decide your things, you're supposed to do your best.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But do actually do. Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thank you. You're supposed to do your best.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Nah, nah. You got to do right. He knows you're going to know what right is. No, you not. I ain't failed. I ain't failed. I'm not failing. Not when it comes to the adultery thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thou shalt not steal.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Now, what if you're a baseball player and that is literally part of the goddamn game?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, it's part of the game. You're allowed to do it. They just use the word steal. Okay, but I hear what you're saying.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Heal. What?

[Andrew Schultz]

All right. Thou shalt not.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, but there's no reason to steal when you have the means. Because what if there's a hurricane and you don't got no money and you poor and you gotta go loot to get some food for your kids?

[Andrew Schultz]

Come on, now, though it doesn't say thou shalt not loot.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That is very true. That is true. What some people call looting, stealing.

[Andrew Schultz]

But you're right, though fucking up. Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Now, I don't even know what that means.

[Andrew Schultz]

Lie. I think it's lie on your neighbor. Neighbor.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But what fun would podcast be?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

If you couldn't lie on your neighbor, because thy neighbor means other people. If you couldn't lie on other people, what fun would. Podcasting you was lying on that. What rabbit holes would we have to go down? You know what I'm saying? This is literally 60, 70, 80% of the whole media landscape right now lie on people.

[Andrew Schultz]

But they're not saying how to have a successful podcast. They're saying how to get into heaven.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yo, come on.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a good one.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Don't be disrespectful.

[Andrew Schultz]

Don't be disrespectful.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Don't be disrespectful. Covet means the lust after. Don't be disrespectful.

[Andrew Schultz]

And thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods. You can't look at your neighbor's house in which you had that shit.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But what? That's inspiration, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, like, damn, that's dope.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, that's okay. I think you can be inspired by.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm inspired.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can't hate them because of it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm not necessarily inspired by neighbors. Good. Right. Like, if I look at somebody and they got an amazing, amazing something like, let's just say it's a house. I got a nice house. But if this was an amazing house, I'm looking at it, and I'm not saying, like, damn, I want what that person's got. I'm just like, yo, I just want a nice house one day.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. But I don't think that's coveting, you know what I mean? You can look at your neighbor's wife and be like, wow, that's a beautiful woman. I would love a beautiful wife one day.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Or I would just want a wife because I like the family dynamics.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. You don't want to, like, take that from that person.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no, no, no.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's fucking. So I think these are pretty good. These, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's proving my point. You gotta go outta your way.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

To really break some of these shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

This is a choice.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. You be lying on thy neighbor. So that's one.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm trying to do better, Alex.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's trying to do better, though.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We're all trying to do better, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's trying to do better. You can start now. How did I do?

[Charlamagne tha God]

On what?

[Andrew Schultz]

On my joke. You start now. Don't lie.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I mean, what am I comparing it to, bro?

[Andrew Schultz]

A person's first time going on stage to do standup. Nah. See? Going.

[Charlamagne tha God]

There's only one joke, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

Going to hell. Going.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're a comedian. What do you think?

[Andrew Schultz]

Imagine you went to hell.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Be honest. Be honest. What do you think?

[Andrew Schultz]

What I think of his standup? Yeah, I think he did a great job. No, really. I think you're very nervous when you're up there your first time. You miss the funniest part.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Part. No, I did.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's not. No, it's not in the video. Shifty cut out of the video. My favorite part. Why didn't you put that in? This is so funny. But in all honest, his first time, he's nervous. Granted, the audience, like you said, knows that he's nervous, so they're rooting for him because they're all imagining what it would be like if they were up there for the first time. And then the joke was clever. The joke was 100% clever. Like, we cannot deny the fact that the joke was clever. Ask Alex Media.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, you wrote it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Robbie helped me with Robbie's it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Silvic. Okay, okay, okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, well, then that's Robbie Sl. That's good. I thought you had that. And I was like, okay, that's fire. Okay. Shout out to Robbie. But still, it's a very clever. It's a clever joke. And I think that they're basically like, okay, here's this guy that's nervous. He actually delivered this thing. And the thing is clever. Give him a round of applause.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's not going up there going, yo, I'm the best comedian. Here's my joke. Type of thing. That being said. Okay. That being said, I think that we kind of feel for people in those situations. But the funniest. You don't. You want chaos. You want chaos.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I need the blanking to keep going.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay?

[Charlamagne tha God]

So, like, you. You had me at I'm blinking on everything. Oh, my God. Let me put my phone down. Yo, hold on. Who is this fantastic new comedian that's on the scene?

[Andrew Schultz]

Look at this. Look at this. Look. This is my favorite part. At the end, we finish the show. Thank you guys so much. And Al goes, it's not the video. I wish it was in the video. He goes, us. That's my time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know when that's my time hits after you bomb, bro. After a person bombs and that red light comes on and they gotta try to just kill time or their time isn't even up.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but they know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, that's my time.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The human red light is better than the red light. When the crowd tells you it. Test your fucking time. So you want to do it more? You think you want to do it more?

[Andrew Schultz]

I might. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm going to pull up.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's fun.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let me know when you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, don't you dare. Don't you dare. I'm going to get you up there. I'mma get you up there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

For what?

[Andrew Schultz]

Just a joke. One joke. Everybody should try it. You should try it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I did it one time.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what my joke was? Walked out on stage, and I said, man, I looked at that crowd, I said, man. Then I looked back at the stool. Looked back at the crowd, I said, man, let me sit my ass down. So y' all don't ever say Charlamagne was up here trying to do standup.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, keep digging your crane. Yeah. Whoa. All right. The standup's not for everybody, apparently. How'd that go over? How'd that go over? Yeah. Saudi next year. We gotta get him out. Saudi next year. Charlamagne of God. His headlining.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Come on, let's pay some bills, man. Okay. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's jokes. What do we got? We got more. We do this. Do some asking. Idiots, baby.

[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, man. Salute to bluechew.

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[Charlamagne tha God]

EBay, things people love. What's today? Today's the 17th. This week. Friday the 17th, right? Yeah, Friday the 17th. Okay, listen. Birmingham, Alabama. I will be in Birmingham on the 17th at the Alabama Theater with former vice president Kamala Harris having a conversation about her book, 107 Days, Man. Wanted to tell y' all that. Yes, it's actually two. It's two. I'm about to say shows. I guess they are shows. I don't know. It's two of. It's five o' clock and eight o'. Clock, so. So a conversation with Kamala Harris at the Alabama Theater in Birmingham, Alabama, this Friday. So I'll see y' all there. Let's do some asking idiots, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is there any of these topics you want to hit before we go to?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's see what we got, man. What we got, man?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, let's hit asking idiots because I got to go to a child fair.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's do some. What the hell is a child fair? They selling them at fairs now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

God damn. Y' all used to just do it behind the back of pizza shops. What the fuck happened to some pizza shop? What the. They doing whole fairs now? That is crazy, bro. CRX Kid2003 says, what was the hardest lessons you had to learn in your lifetime? What's the hardest lesson you had to learn in your lifetime, Schultz?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know. That's a great question. The hardest lesson I had to learn. I don't know. I want to, like, think on that. The hardest lesson. I don't know. I don't know. What's the hardest lesson for you?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't know if it's the hardest, but a lesson that I've definitely learned is don't expect you from other people.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ooh, that's great.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And I think I'm also still learning. A part of that lesson is don't expect you from other people. But also karma, you know, energy, whatever you want to call it, whatever you on, don't mean that's what everybody else gonna be on. And that don't mean that's what you gonna get back.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

In fact, I think I've learned the opposite. Meaning that it is really true that we all be having crosses to bear, especially based on what it is you choose to do with your life. If you choose to let, like, you know, really go down a path that a lot of people haven't gone down. Especially, you know, like, where you might be from or, you know, you know, shit like that. Like, yes, there's going to be a lot of obstacles, hurdles, and tough shit you got to deal with in exchange for that success. And I'll never forget, you know, actually, it was actually a lesson that matter who the lesson was from, but it was a lesson that a very prominent person said to me one time, and they said to me that if you had all of your. If somebody said to you right now, you're gonna have all the success you have and all the success you're going to have, but all you gotta deal with is critics, people lying on you. You would take that deal nine times out of 10. I think I would take it 10 of 10, out 100%, you know what I'm saying? Because it just. That's what comes with it, especially in this game of entertainment.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a great.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So since I was a kid, this is what I wanted to do in some way, shape or form. I'm doing it at a very high level, the highest. So whatever comes with that, I'm cool.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I think. Yeah. It's like you can't have your cake and eat it too, or whatever that saying is. Like, when you reach a certain level of success, there's obviously going to be criticism. And it's one of those things, like when you see narratives about you that are. That are completely false, it's frustrating because you're like, man, people are so gullible. They fall for these things all the time. But I'm sure we also fall for narratives about other people all the time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's kind of the nature of the TikTok creator economy we live in, which is like, say something salacious and maybe half true. You get way more views than if you say something nuanced and thoughtful. And. Yeah, I guess there's an interesting lesson to that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And it's hilarious, right? It's funny to me because I think it was maybe the next week after the dame dash. I don't remember what it was. It was something going on. But then on the Internet, they having one conversation. But then that whole weekend, I'm on the front page of the USA Today, and it's like, Charlemagne, the kingmaker.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, dude, there's.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Whatever that means.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's a thousand different realities now, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And.

[Andrew Schultz]

And we spend more time on our phones than we do in real life.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, if you literally look at how much time you spend on your phone every day, you probably spent. I don't know about you, but most people, they might spend six hours on their phone, seven hours on their phone. Right. So you're spending more time on your phone than you are interacting with the real world. Right. So the real world is actually fake.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, the.

[Andrew Schultz]

The. The fake reality that you see on your phone that's curated by these algorithms that tap into your fear years, that becomes your reality. So I think people become really radicalized because they feel very comfortable in these super crazy opinions that they see flooding their feed.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're absolutely right.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, so it's like, yeah, we live in a very weird time. That's where I think, like, you can really only do the thing that makes you feel good. There is a freedom to this, I will say. The freedom I've realized is, like, I see people trying to, like, ride the waves of criticism and that kind of stuff. But, like, the freedom, I think is. Is people are gonna be upset no matter what. You always say this. You're like, three people are gonna say you're good, three people gonna say you shitty, and three people.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's a rule of 10.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Yeah. But it's like, once you go through it enough, I think you realize, which is like, just do the thing that makes you feel good and that you believe in, because everything else outside of that doesn't matter, by the way.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's when I know a person's gonna be great. See, when you hear and you doing this, everybody cheering for you, you know, underdog, they love you. They love to see you win. They're like, oh, my God. After I got it, after I got it. But then when you get there and you there, there, and they like, wait a minute now. I knew he was on the come up, but I didn't know he was gonna get there. You know what I'm saying? That's when all the bullshit starts. That's when all the hate starts. That's when. Not like you used to be, blah, blah, blah, by the way. You shouldn't be like you used to be. You're supposed to grow. You're supposed to evolve. That's when all of the hate and all of that shit really, really, really come. And then if you can withstand that, invincible. On the other side of that is where the real greatness lies and the real success lies. Because God is like, all right now, I gave you what you wanted. You got there. And there's a lot more for you to get, and there's a lot more places for you to go. But if you can't handle this, that's.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why it's like just with anything, I really feel like the way through is talking about, like, the easiest way to do this Riyadh shit would have been for us to never discuss a single thing afterwards. Not me, not put out a. A clip from the whole thing. Like, the easiest way is just go through and then don't look the other way. But like, that's scared shit.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like I. I wanted to go before him that I felt really good about performing there, but scared, you can't do it scared. Wait, what are you saying?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do it scared. What does that mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

Do it then?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Meaning, like, it's almost like a fearlessness, right? And I thought about.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Fearlessness. Go do it, do it it.

[Andrew Schultz]

You got to go do it. And you also just got like, if you believe in something, it doesn't matter what the people say. Eventually they're going to realize you do whatever the you want to do. And if they want to get on board with that, they can. And if they don't want to get on board with it, they cannot get on board. But they're not going to dictate what you do.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And whoever you lose in the process, you're doing you. You're supposed to man and ass is.

[Andrew Schultz]

Going to come back once you say something they like. And it's. This is the cyclical nature of.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Are they just gonna dick ride the bigger you get? They either gonna do two things. They either gonna. No, three things. They're either going to celebrate. Cause some people really do celebrate.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Or they're gonna hate.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Cause some people just. That's what they're there for. They hate.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Are they gonna dick ride? And the dick riding comes from watching everybody celebrate you. So they don't wanna look like they not part of the party. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

But the second something goes wrong, they're the first.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, they jump with the haters. That's why the dick riders just jump from the.

[Andrew Schultz]

Those motherfuckers are never your real fans in the first place. They're the plast in the wind. They're letting like a TikTok video dictate their feelings.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They dick ride. What dick is wonk.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can hop on it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You hop on it. Salute to Jay Stahl too, man. I want to salute J. Stall because this was a great piece he wrote in USA Today about me. And I didn't know I was going to be on the COVID I thought it was just an interview, but it ended up being on the COVID of USA Today. So. Thank you. J. Stall. Out of 10 occurrences, how many times do you tell your wife that other women hit on you? Bro, I'm married. Women don't hit on me.

[Andrew Schultz]

That shit's over.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That shit is over. And when women were hitting on me, I wasn't telling my wife. And that was the problem. That was the problem. Cuz I was hitting back.

[Andrew Schultz]

That was bad. That was bad.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Don't even say that out loud. One of the Ten Commandments.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can't break them.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And then I decided that I wanted to be a better person. And I asked God for forgiveness. And so I do better now.

[Andrew Schultz]

There you go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Meaning I don't do it at all.

[Andrew Schultz]

There you go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Faithful black man over here.

[Andrew Schultz]

One day at a time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Now there are times when you know. Cause you know, you get to the point, man, when you be so married and washed that you know, you be at your daughter's cheerleading competition and you be like, no such and such. Mom, she over there flirting with me.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thank God. You talking about the parents, bro? I was like this guy talking about the cheerleading competition.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You go to one child fair and that's where your mind was fucking is wrong with you. What is your problem? Why would you think that?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, yet you were saying the moms are throwing rhythm at you or what?

[Charlamagne tha God]

In my mind, you know what I Mean, that's just. You have a. When you have a. You have a conversation with a married man for over 30 seconds.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. What do you really want?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly. That man don't know no better. That man. Just like I said, a simple being nice to a married man. A rub on the back.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, no.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Make you feel like you still got it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why is she rubbing on your back, bro? That's crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't fucking know. Same reason you rubbed on Alex back, to give him some encouragement. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What's one character trait you have that you wouldn't want your kids to have?

[Andrew Schultz]

One.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, exactly.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, man. What's one character trait that I have that I wouldn't want my kids to have? Oh, like. Like the old. The tricky thing is that, like, sometimes these character traits, they can help you be successful. So I wouldn't want them to inhibit their success. But at the same time, like, you know, like, thinking you're right and wanting to convince somebody that they're wrong, I don't think leads to the best communication sometimes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But we're podcasters, but we podcast. That's what we do.

[Andrew Schultz]

So if the kids want food every.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Night, you gotta get a little contention, a little argument, little conflict. You know what I'm saying? It's what it is, you know? And I'm gonna be honest with you. My brain really works like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

It does.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't know why it does.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm trying to help you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It is not. Cause I'm not a contrarian. I just really am objective. And I like to see things from all sides. And I'm just like, well, have you tried to look at it like this? You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

We don't even say it that kindly. We don't say, have you tried?

[Charlamagne tha God]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

We'll be like, man, that was stupid what you said. Let me help you with your thoughts.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't think people realize, man, when that spirit moves you, bro. Like, it's a spirit. I watch. Like, I watch you on stage shows. I'll watch you when you pie. It's a spirit. Like, we get downloads and we got to let that shit out. Gotta let it out. And this ain't just when the mics.

[Andrew Schultz]

Are on, I can't hold it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Cause I feel like if I'm not shooting, I gotta shoot.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

In the world. In the world we shooting. I love talking to people. I love conversation.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's breathing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's talk. Let's. And I like listening to a person even before I even talk. To them, like, ooh. Cause I wanna see if that person's gonna spark something in me. That's just a different perspective. Like, that's what I like. I like people that spark a different perspective in me. Like, oh, all right. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of times when I'm looking at the social media waves of things, I don't agree with majority of them. Shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Majority of the shit that motherfuckers be on on social media, I promise you, I'm probably going the opposite way just because I'm like, y' all bugging shit. Can't. Cause you know why, though? I'm gonna tell you why. And I just thought it about. About it. No, I didn't just think about it, but I just thought about it. I don't think in extremes. Social media thinks in extremes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes. So your natural reaction is to be like, it ain't that crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's not that it's nuanced to it. Like. And then sometimes I'll be like, well, why y' all reacting like that? To this? Yeah, but not to that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Like, it don't make no sense to me. Like, yeah, I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no, no. You're actually making a great point. It's like, extreme's the only thing that gets reactions online line. So naturally we see these extremes on all sides and we're just like, it really ain't that big a deal. And then when we react like that, the extreme people go, man, y' all just fence riding or you just sitting in the middle or whatever. It's like, yeah, yeah. That's what normal people do. Normal people are not extreme. Walking down the street, these little freaks that have this one myopic view of the world. There are normal people can look at both sides of something big. I could see where they are there. I could see where they are there. That's normal.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's right. So I think that is one trait. People pleasing. Even though I've. I've. Oh, yeah, I got a hand. I got a handle on that now, like, no is a. No is a complete sentence nowadays.

[Andrew Schultz]

But like, there's a. Like, I. You shouldn't be a people pleaser to the. To the detriment of yourself. But I think that there is an aspect of that, like, that is beautiful, which is like, you care how people feel in a moment.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So it's like, you don't want. I know people who are devoid of it. They're like, I don't care if that person feels Good at all. And those people kind of suck. They just seem selfish. They only care about how they feel in a moment. So having some empathy for how someone feels in a moment I think is good. Imagine being somebody who saw a person go on stage for the first time and they were just watching it and relishing in the failure. Imagine that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But what if I am a person who likes watching the person fail on stage? What about me, Schultz? You can't tell me to put myself first. Okay. But then have me be concerned about what this person is going through when what I actually love and enjoy.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you've.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's happening.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think you figured it out. You don't people please anymore.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It can't. People please no more, man. And also, and also too, the people pleasing I'm talking about is just like, you know, constantly like being there for everybody. But here's the thing. I don't do that for any other reason other than I enjoy it. And like, you know, my wife will get on me sometimes. Or like people that's close to me, like Dolly will get on me sometime and they'll be like, you know, that's why you. Duvala definitely, you know, like that's why that such and such fucked you over. It's like, I don't care if they fucked me.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, yeah. Cause you did the right thing for you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I did it because I wanted.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're a bad person. It doesn't mean that you should. It doesn't mean you should treat everybody as if they're gonna be bad. That's a way horrible. That's a horrible way to go about it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, I did it. Cause I did it. I do things for people. Cause I genuinely want to do them for no other reason. If I got the means and I got the resources and, you know, the spirit moves me, I'm gonna do it. If you that up, that's on you. Yeah. That ain't gonna stop me from being me. Yeah. I guess that's kind of how Jesus.

[Andrew Schultz]

Works now he's on board. Now he's on board. We got there. It took us two hours, but we got there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Jesus works.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, we talking.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's do one more. Why are all the leaders afraid of TR Trump?

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a good one. When you mean leaders like of other countries.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Other countries. Industries. I got a theory about this.

[Andrew Schultz]

Go. Me too. Go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And my theory came just from reading this question. Because I do be sitting back wondering the same thing. Like, why are the checks and balances not for him? Why is he able to do the things that he does. I think that he is a master troll behind the scenes. Let me tell you what I mean by that. We're looking at the chaos we see. What about the chaos we don't see? Meaning what if, like, terribly embarrassing things are happening to people publicly and we don't know he's the one behind. Behind it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you're giving a lot of credit right now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm just saying as a person.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Who may or may not enjoy the troll.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do the same type of. Right. I don't do that type of stuff.

[Andrew Schultz]

Of course not, but.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay. When you see somebody going through it, going through the chaos that they. Going through, for whatever reason, they're going through it. Yeah. And that person knows. Knows it was him the whole time it was him. I don't need nobody else to know. You know, you'll get in line. Meaning if you're one of these world leaders who's seen it happen to somebody else.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Not saying he's doing it to everybody.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But he's made enough examples.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That they, like, yo, that possible. Crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think. Well, you. I think it's possible. I think that, like, love him or hate him, he doesn't subscribe to, like, the orthodoxy that typical politicians subscribe to. So it's like, the reason, like, Biden and Kamala couldn't get any deal done over there is because they were probably going through the typical diplomatic process that, you know, presidents go through. And I think Trump is probably, like, why we do that. I'm gonna just call this guy and tell him that he's not going to get any more bombs unless he supports this country. And then I'm gonna ask this country what they want and I'm gonna. That works. Give it to him. So I think he's just cutting out all this shit, and they believe that he'll do it. And when you. When you act that erratically on a world stage, people have no choice but to react to it because they're like, I haven't seen anyone behave like this. And the cost of me not taking this seriously could be very high. And I think in a lot of places in the world, especially the places where they're dictators and autocrats.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think they actually relate to it better. Better.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? So they're just like, what the is going on? Why is he so transactional? He's just asking me what I want, and then he'll give it. Like, doesn't he have to ask Congress? Doesn't he have to do all these other things.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what's so funny about what you're saying? If you're a dictator or authoritarian, you know what that looks like?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes. Like, I actually think he does better negotiating outside of America than in. Because he's talking to other people that have full control and power. So he's just like, what do y' all want? Oh, you want this? Okay, I'll give you that. And then you give me this. In America, he gotta ask Congress to do this. He gotta ask the Democrats to do this, the Republicans. These people are fighting here, which is a great system. It is the best system. We shouldn't change that system. Yeah, but it doesn't work.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, that system's changed, buddy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sure, sure.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But my point is, it doesn't work for how he operates most normally. Whereas when he's operating overseas and he's talking to these other dictators, he can just go, yeah, I'll give you that. Or I'm taking this away, or I'm going to blow them up. I'm just going to do all these things. And they have to react to it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It doesn't seem like a lot of the world leaders are afraid of him, though. I don't see no fear from China. I don't see no fear from Russia, which I think frustrates him. That's why he's so upset now, putting the tariffs on China again. You know, telling Putin, I'm not happy with you again.

[Andrew Schultz]

Listen, they might not.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Circling the wagon with the sub. The nuclear submarines around Russia and all. Like, he's trying to strike some fear in them, but it don't. Like it's working.

[Andrew Schultz]

They might not, but the leaders here in America.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, he got him shook. Oh, every industry, like Barack Obama said this week. Barack Obama was like, just. Won't just stand up, say no.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Speaking about. I think he was speaking about, like, the, The. The. The universities and.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The television networks.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But for whatever reason, he got them completely shook.

[Andrew Schultz]

But that's because he threatens him and then backs him. Like you saw, he had Elon donated, what, 200 million or whatever the case is, and then he shut it down. He shut. He just kicked Elon out. So if he could do that to the richest guy in the world who is probably responsible for you being in office, he gonna do that to everybody.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, but he back with Elon, though. He's back with Elon telling Elon he miss him and stuff like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Elon's back in line. Elon got in line. It's not the other way around.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Explain Disney then.

[Andrew Schultz]

What about what happened with Disney?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Your FCC chair comes out, gives this stern warning about Kimmel.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They put Kimmel on ice.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Disney loses $6 billion in market share within a week. They lose like a million plus subscribers. Somebody said, yo, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stop the motherfucking bleeding right now. I don't care what he talking about. Put him back on the air. Put him back on the air. He didn't even really say nothing after that. We ain't. We ain't hear about no.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who is he? Who is he here? Trump.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Trump. Trump ain't say nothing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, but that's.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He said, like, maybe one thing after. Just left it alone.

[Andrew Schultz]

But that's Disney reacting to the market. Yeah. Rejecting them. He respects business and so he. I'm pretty sure Kimmel will be gone probably in a year. Daisy's like, yo, we can't do it right now, but eventually we gotta do.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I feel like that. I feel like you got that from me. No, I did say that.

[Andrew Schultz]

You did say that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, I said something. I remember we were talking about it. Showed what. I remember we were talking about it on the pod and I was just saying how, like, I think of. I think ultimately he's going. Trump is going to win and get his way.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, maybe possible, but I don't.

[Charlamagne tha God]

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