Blues Brothers

Summary

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The Brilliant Idiots – "Blues Brothers" (October 4, 2025)

Overview

This episode marks the return of Andrew Schulz from a months-long filming trip in Australia, reuniting with Charlamagne Tha God. The duo swiftly dives into everything they've missed: behind-the-scenes movie talk (notably about the new "Street Fighter"), the nature of nostalgia, celebrity culture, American politics, gun violence, generational divides, cancel culture, and a host of current events. As usual, their discussion jumps between the hysterical and incisive, pairing “idiotic” riffs with sharp commentary on the state of media, society, and power.

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Reunited and It Feels So Good

• [01:07] Charlamagne and Schulz open with mutual affection and jokes about genuinely missing each other, setting an upbeat, energetic return.
  • “I saw you and I was happy, like, oh, Shosi, I did, man. I was like, oh, my boy is back. My guy is back, man.” — Charlamagne
  • “No, it's great to see you, man.” — Schulz
• Andrew reflects on quality family time during his break, describing the joy of “reading my daughter books to sleep every night.”

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Behind the Scenes: Street Fighter Movie

Filming Down Under and 50 Cent Tales

• [03:15] Schulz shares details about the "Street Fighter" movie shoot in Australia, creating a buzz among the cast and crew, especially around iconic characters.
• 50 Cent plays Balrog, and Schulz recounts a hilarious “Rolex incident” at the cast dinner:
  • “He like spills it a little bit on me, right? He goes, dude, I'm so sorry, bro. Here. And he takes off his Rolex.” — Andrew [04:53]

Nerd Lore & Acting Intensity

• Explains "Street Fighter" history and how character names changed from Japan to the U.S. [04:01]
• Praises the collaborative environment on set, noting how every actor cared deeply about their character and the story; the director was “super collaborative” [08:36].
• “You're going to be very surprised by what you see, like, the way it looks, you're not going to expect. It's not shot like a Marvel movie.” — Schulz [06:08]
• Schulz reveals he’s with the main character throughout much of the film, suggesting a prominent role.

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Movie IP, Nostalgia, and What Audiences Want

The Power of Childhood Nostalgia

• Discuss the crucial role of nostalgia in movie success:
  • “There's nothing you care about more than the shit that impacted you as a kid.” — Schulz [07:59]
  • Charlamagne predicts a revival of the “Street Fighter” franchise and video game movies, noting this generation’s ongoing desire for nostalgic content.

Hollywood’s Struggles

• The conversation touches on Hollywood’s difficulty recognizing and adapting to new types of talent (streamers, comedians, online personalities) [61:19]:
  • “Hollywood is just starting to [see] comedy… they don't even know streaming exists.” — Schulz

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Comedy, Drama, and Authenticity in Storytelling

• They analyze how the best comedies are built on real dramatic stakes:
  • “The more you can get, people convince people that the drama is real, the funnier the funny parts will be because they're breaking up the severity of the drama.” — Schulz [13:43]
  • Cites "Friday" and "Coming to America" as comedies with serious, dramatic underpinnings [14:02].

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Cancel Culture, Social Media, & Flattened Identities

The Charlie Kirk Shooting: A Case Study in Polarization

• [22:13] Schulz and Charlamagne dissect media reactions to the Charlie Kirk shooting, decrying how quickly tragedy is politicized and how social media algorithms "flatten" people into two-dimensional avatars.
  • “There's a different version of Charlie Kirk depending on who you are. And the algorithm will feed you the things that confirm your belief about that person.” — Schulz [26:36]
  • Charlamagne likens contemporary public image to “the multiverse: I don’t know what version of Charlamagne you witnessed.” [27:45]

Nuance, Good-Faith Conversations, & the Problem with Outrage

• Praise the civil discussion between Ta-Nehisi Coates and Ezra Klein about Kirk’s legacy [30:25].
• Schulz: “When you're a nuanced person, you get to piss off everybody. Because there's so much reward online in engaging in rage.” [35:58]

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Politics: Democrats, Republicans, and the Fractured Left

Government Shutdown & Blame Games

• Talk about the government shutdown, its real-world impacts, and the right’s messaging discipline [44:12].
• Schulz, on establishment Dems: “The only thing they could do is go, he's bad. Look how bad he is.” [47:00]
• Charlamagne observes, “Dems are walking into Congress with one hand over their asshole because they getting fucked at every turn.” [45:59]

Mandani, AOC, and The Hope (or Hype) of Fresh Faces

• Discuss Zoran Mandani as a new voice in NYC politics; hope for substantive change but acknowledge challenges of meeting sky-high expectations [49:57].

Echo Chambers, Accountability, and “The Big Lie”

• On “the Big Lie” (the Democratic establishment’s failures): Charlamagne and Schulz urge Dems to publicly reckon with and move beyond their own mistakes [55:14].
• “All these people are just like, let's ignore what's happening in our house and let's point blame, let's scapegoat, let's find out what's going on in the world.” — Schulz [56:01]
• Discuss how revisionist history pins blame on podcasters for Trump’s win, while ignoring the failures of Dem candidates [58:22].

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The Future of Fame & Media: Old Stars, New Influencers

• Deliberate why there are “no young movie stars” to match Cruise, Willis, etc. [60:07].
• Streaming, podcasting, and authenticity are now central to building generational fame, whereas Hollywood once held all the power.
  • “The era that we're in calls for authenticity… You had to be polished and clean. That's not what the world wants anymore.” — Charlamagne [65:33]

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On Being Cancelled, Empathy, and Our Disposable Culture

• Discuss society’s trend toward making people “disposable” through algorithms, outrage, and cancel culture [39:03].
  • “We're making everybody disposable. Even when we say things like, oh, they're canceled, they're done. Like, you're literally making humans disposable.” — Charlamagne [39:14]
  • Schulz: “We have more empathy for people outside of our country… than people inside.” [39:14-40:06]

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Crime, Guns, and Social Reform

• The trio (with guest Chris Distefano) dig into crime and policing: disagreements over punishment vs. rehabilitation, talk of gun violence, and political grandstanding on “scooter” crackdowns [51:34–54:34].
• Charlamagne: “If you're putting them in a situation where they go into these jails and now they just gotta survive one hand on their motherfucking butthole… they become more savage. They become more of an animal.” [52:47]

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Current Events Grab Bag

Defamation Law & Celebrity Drama

• Hot take on Kardashians suing Ray J for defamation over RICO claims, and the difference between radio, podcasting, and loose-talking YouTubers [91:18–95:16].
• Charlamagne warns: “If you’re a Ray J and you’re going to make an allegation like that, you got to come with it. Can’t flirt with it.” [95:15]

Real Estate: NYC’s Rental Crisis

• Dismay over NYC’s rental market—who can actually afford to live there? “How is everybody a millionaire?” [89:08]

Jake Paul’s Boxing Impact

• Commend Jake Paul for singlehandedly raising the profile and pay for women’s boxing. Schulz: “Jake does not get enough credit, bro.” [80:54]

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Society, Nostalgia, and the Next Generation

Are We Running Out of Nostalgia?

• Deep reflection on whether the current generation is creating enough for future nostalgia cycles, as society increasingly reacts instead of invents [111:32].
  • Chris: “20 years is generally the cycle for nostalgia, right? … But what’s the nostalgia gonna be in 20 years from this moment?” [111:59]
  • Charlamagne, about younger people: “People don't remember what happened yesterday… Everybody is such a prisoner at a moment.” [114:34]
• Schulz: “Nothing's true. Nothing's false, dude. There is no truth.” [116:40]

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Rapid-Fire Q&A (“Asking Idiots”)

• Blind person hygiene dilemma, joke-crafting and whether ‘natural funny’ is the same as comedy, AI presidents, and whether being funny signals intelligence.
  • Schulz: “Joke writing you can learn… but naturally funny, you just have. It's not you're born with, but, like, you learn through life.” [99:47]
  • Charlamagne: “Comedians... have a level of intelligence that a lot of politicians wish to have. Because it is an intelligence that taps into society.” [101:15]
• Live ChatGPT joke demonstration, with Charlamagne’s delight at witnessing machine-generated (but ultimately mediocre) comedy [107:00–109:40].

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Notable Quotes & Time Stamps

• “There's no such thing as a not fun 50 story.” — Charlamagne [03:38]
• “I think the funniest movies are the ones where we genuinely believe the drama.” — Schulz [14:42]
• “The algorithm flattens all of us, you, me, Charlie, everybody, into these two-dimensional avatars.” — Schulz [26:36]
• “Sometimes you look at people and you see something in them that they may not see in themselves.” — Charlamagne [103:50]
• “You had to be polished and clean. That's not what the world wants no more. And that's what Democrats keep fucking up.” — Charlamagne [65:33]
• “See, it's just noise… How is this going to change us? How are we going to reflect?” — Schulz [24:36]

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Tone & Style

The conversation is rapid-fire, irreverent, and full of in-jokes asides—yet regularly lands on thoughtful questions about the state of media, politics, and culture. They move fluidly from satire to sincerity, constantly poking fun at each other and the world, but always returning to the importance of nuance, authenticity, and empathy.

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Episode Highlights (Timestamps)

• 01:07 — Reunion vibes & family talk
• 03:15 — Street Fighter movie, 50 Cent story
• 08:36 — Collaborative moviemaking & improv
• 13:43 — Comedy built on dramatic stakes
• 22:13 — The Charlie Kirk shooting & online polarization
• 30:25 — Ta-Nehisi Coates vs. Ezra Klein: model of good-faith discussion
• 39:14 — Cancel culture, empathy, and disposability
• 44:12 — Government shutdown talk
• 60:07 — Where are today’s young movie stars?
• 65:33 — Authenticity vs. polish in politics and entertainment
• 80:54 — Jake Paul’s impact on boxing
• 91:18 — Ray J, Kardashians & defamation law
• 111:32 — Are we running out of nostalgia?
• 114:34 — The dangers of living only in the present
• 116:40 — “Nothing’s true. Nothing’s false, dude.”

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This episode is a masterclass in blending playful idiocy with insightful commentary. Both hosts, re-energized from their time apart, challenge each other’s perspectives on fame, accountability, identity, and what actually matters in shaping the culture—as always, one viral controversy, wild tangent, and sharp punchline at a time.

Transcript

[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

Hands and shoals.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We are the brilliant idiots. Podcast the Hezzy is back. Hess walk. Man, I genuinely missed you, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

I missed you too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, dead ass. I saw you and I was happy, like, oh, Shosi, I did, man. I was like, oh, my boy is back. My guy is back, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, it's great to see you, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How did. How did it feel to be away for too much?

[Andrew Schulz]

It was. It was cool, man. Like hanging with the family every single day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Never travel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't get to. You know, I'm traveling every other day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you, got you, got you, got you, got you.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, like every morning, waking up, like, reading my daughter books to sleep every night. Almost amazing. Yeah. It was fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So listen.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the. When did you miss you too, bro? I missed you. I genuinely missed you, man. And a lot fucking happened.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wanted to call in.

[Andrew Schulz]

It was so much going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So much happened, you know? But listen, did you know that game.

[Andrew Schulz]

Interview was viral over there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really? I mean, I mean, come on, it's the Internet. Internet's everywhere.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but like, Australia is just so removed from everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it's just like I've never been. They tap in. Like, they're great. It was awesome and. But, like, they're removed, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. You're on an island in the middle of the ocean.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And just surrounded by Asia.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A lot of iggies over there.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is there a lot of iggies over there or like, she, like a.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, she's not an anomaly. Like, they're in shape. They're in shape over there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're in shape.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So Dr. Umar would, like, maybe do a little.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Little. Little second take a few. I think she might have to.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think black queens forever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Snow bunnies never. I said black queens forever. Snow bunnies never.

[Andrew Schulz]

And technically, they're Asian. They're not white, so he might be able to slide through. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So Iggy is Asian.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, I think. Where is Australia? It's in Asia. Yeah, they're Asian.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That could be. Yo, Iggy's your rebrand. Come out as Rice Spice, you know, saying, I'm serious. She could have rebranded and come back, kick it. I think that is the move that would be fire. Like, yo, she really tapping to her Australian Asian roots. My name is Rice Spice is dead. You know what I'm saying? She could kill, so. But it was fun. When did y' all shoot? Because that's what we was wondering. We looking like, yo, they always at the amusement park, bro. 50s back here, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

50 is. Oh, yeah. So people pop in and out, okay? Like, so if, you know, depending on, like, how much you're in the movie and, like, what parts of the movie you're in, you got to stay for shorter or longer. So, like, they were able to. And you got all these different people in it that have, like, really restricted schedules. So, like, you know, 50 stuff. I think he was there for, like, a month. He lost, like, 25 pounds.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

It was. It was crazy. And he's just 50. You want to hear a fun 50 story?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's no such thing as a not fun 50 story.

[Andrew Schulz]

All right, we're at the first cast dinner, right? So he comes in, right? 50 is, like, up. He's, you know, he's a major character in the movie, but it's not, like, the biggest part.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He plays, what, Ballrock, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

Which is, like, iconic character, like, that was made after Mike Tyson. Here's a little Street Fighter lore. The bad guy in Street Fighter is called M. Bison.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hilarious.

[Andrew Schulz]

So they made Balrog in the real version in, like, Japan. Balrog's name is M. Bison. Right? And then somebody told the Japanese creators, like, yo, you can't just make a guy that's like, Mike Tyson as Boxing club. They call him and Bison. No. So they just switch the character names.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hilarious.

[Andrew Schulz]

So Balrog. So they call him Balrog. Whatever. And he walks into the party, and everybody's excited to see 50, right? Like, a lot of these, like, actors they never met, he walks in and he goes, hey, man, I Just want to thank you guys all so much for being a part of my movie, man. He's cold in court at dinner and he goes like, pick up a champagne glass, it's not even champagne in it. And he like spills it a little bit on me, right? He goes, dude, I'm so sorry, bro. Here. And he takes off his Rolex.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get the fuck out of here.

[Andrew Schulz]

He goes, here, so take that, man, I'm so sorry. I. I'm not taking his Rolex. He goes, nah, bro, I feel horrible. And I was like, there's no way you feel that bad. And he's like, he's like, no, seriously, you got to take it. I'm like, I'm not going to take it. He goes, if your wife was here, she would take us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She would take it.

[Andrew Schulz]

She's not at this there. And I go, I'm not going to take that. And he goes, you sure? I'm like, yeah. Because I know that later three guys would break into my apartment and take this back. And I don't want to put my.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Family.

[Chris Distefano]

Run it back on Monday.

[Andrew Schulz]

And 50's like, Nah, bro, I couldn't get my guys with the felonies in the country.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why didn't they just get Mike Tyson to play ballrock? I'm glad 50 is. But, but why couldn't Mike, he's not that old, maybe two on the nose.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, like, you also like want somebody with some, you know, acting chops and experience. I also think like, if you see Mike Tyson in anything, you can't, you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can'T pass Mike Tyson.

[Andrew Schulz]

Tyson, yeah. You know, so it's like, especially with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The gloves and everything, it'll be like, yeah, who the fuck is Ballroom also?

[Andrew Schulz]

50'S 50, like it's his movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like he said they're doing a spin off with just him.

[Andrew Schulz]

That he like day one he's already telling people it's amazing. He's just a force on set.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's going to happen.

[Andrew Schulz]

He will.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He Will Wilson into existence going to happen. Is the movie going to be good though?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, bro, this movie is going to. And I'm not saying this on some actor shit. Everything is made in the edit, so I can't control the edit. But what I will say is you are going to go see if the edit matches like what we were doing in there. And I have no reason to think it shouldn't. Like really talented people, people don't work on it. But like, you're just going to be very surprised by what you see, like, the way it looks, you're not going to expect. It's not shot like a Marvel movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's. It's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're going to walk in, there you go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What, it comes out next year?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it'll be like, next October.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's. There's. There's a scene where I got emotional.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You had to cry.

[Andrew Schulz]

You might see me crying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you must be in the movie a lot if you had to be over there for two months. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, I'm, like, with the main guy, so I like. I, like, play, like, his manager in it without giving away too much. So basically, most of the stuff he's in, I'm in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

So that's why I had to be there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, who's the main guy? Roman Reigns.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, Roman. Roman is the bad guy. He's Akuma, or Akuma, I guess it's called. But Ken, you know, so it's Ryu and Ken.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is a big. I don't think people realize how big a deal this movie is. Do you know what Street Fighter meant to our childhood? Like, it's like Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter.

[Andrew Schulz]

And before Mortal Kombat was Street Fighter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Street Fighter started fighting games, like, for us. So, like, the crazy thing about being on the movie is that everybody around our age is super excited because they all have stories, core childhood memories of playing the game, putting their quarter on the little screen. Playing the Marvel vs. Capcom game. Remember that one? So, like, everybody's excited when they saw Cody. Cody Rhodes put the guile hair on. Like, everybody was buzzing. The young kids don't really know it, but I think what people are starting to realize about movies now is that just putting out a movie that's a good story won't necessarily get people to go to the theater. You got to tap into existing ip.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gotta tap into emotions, feelings. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And there's nothing you care about more than the shit that impacted you as a kid.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This might revitalize the video game. Because I was thinking about that, you know, even watching y' all shoot, I'm like, they've done mad Mortal Kombats. Why did they stop doing Street Fighters?

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, they did one with Jean Claude Van Damme, which was like, who? Horrible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even remember that.

[Andrew Schulz]

And like, Jean Claude.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, the movie. No, I do remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And it was bad, bro. It was like, Jean Claude Van Damme is playing Guile. Guy was supposed to be, like, the most American guy ever. And Jean Claude Van Damme got a French accent or whatever the he got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That don't make no sense.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Chris Distefano]

What would you say was like the most surprising thing on set? Just being there for that long that you weren't anticipating? Maybe.

[Andrew Schulz]

So I didn't, I didn't know how collaborative it was going to be.

[Chris Distefano]

Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, like basically like the director, Katao is the man. And also the producers, like the guys at Legendary like Kale and Jay, everybody there wasn't like this ego. Like sometimes directors and you need a lot of ego to be like a director. It's like your vision. But like they were super collaborative. So they were. If you had ideas, they want to hear them. And when everybody cares about the movie, like they start really caring about like what their character would do and stuff. Like on some real like actor shit that anytime you see an interview sounds wild, corny. So even like saying it, I'm like, I'm like cringing. But it makes it better to be thinking what your character would do in every situation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And like we would just take those scenes and like make them funnier and build them and make them more like we were changing kind of on the fly. Like it was so. To me, that was the thing that I was most scared of. I was like, I don't want to just be sitting around all day doing nothing and then saving lines.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

But instead it was like, all right, what are we going to do to the scene? How are we going to make this better than what's on the paper? And yeah, you're gonna see some wild shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said something interesting. You said the movies made in the edit, man, I did not realize that until I started producing films.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like the shit, like the amount of shit that they shoot that doesn't get used. And when you gotta like watch these three hour long cuts and you like, huh?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like you see. And then when people. I've literally heard a producer say, there's a good movie in there.

[Andrew Schulz]

In there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, you're right. It's like entire people get cut out of movies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Whole scenes, whole actions. Not again.

[Andrew Schulz]

But. But that is what happened. Like you saw it happen on. I think it was like the Formula one movie. Did you hear about that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like I watch it.

[Andrew Schulz]

There was a girl who was like in the movie. I think she was like the love interest of one of the characters. And like she was promoting the movie and then she was just completely, just gone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How the fuck you do that? How you just get rid of the whole character?

[Andrew Schulz]

I guess that storyline didn't you know, play a part in it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But.

[Andrew Schulz]

But it was. It was fucking. And again, I. I didn't even think I liked acting, I'll be honest, until I did the movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, I was gonna ask you that too, because we had Cardi on Breakfast Club recently, and Cardi said she don't like acting, she don't want to do it. She said she don't like being on sets, she don't like to hurry up and wait. Shit. She was like, she don't like doing it. She does not want to be an actor. Because I asked her about. It was a movie that she was scheduled to do. And I think, like, the week that they were supposed to start filming, she pulled out. You was supposed to shoot that movie with Paramount. He was like, nah, I'm not even gonna do that right now. That is something too. That is like, I don't really like to do.

[Andrew Schulz]

I always tell people, like, it's like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't like sets. I don't like waking up at a certain time. I don't. I don't like having, like a set schedule.

[Andrew Schulz]

Set schedule is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just. This is why I never finished college. Like, is that. It's just certain things are just not for you. Certain responsibilities are not for you. Like, I have to do things my way, my time. I don't know how people do it, which, by the way, I respect.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because you gotta go with your. Your gut, your instinct, you know, it might up some business, but you gotta make yourself happy.

[Andrew Schulz]

And it's a big commitment. You're there for months.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You being a stand up comedian, podcaster, do you like acting like that?

[Andrew Schulz]

So in a traditional movie where it's just like, show up, say that line, we're gonna record it from this angle, this angle, then go home. Like, sit in the trailer for 12 hours. I'll go fucking crazy. Like, my brain is not built for that. Like, I want to talk shit. I want to. Yeah, but the fact that we were allowed to, like, kind of be collaborative in this movie, it's like the in between time isn't as boring because you're thinking about, what would this scene be? What would this character do? How could we make this funnier? And it really made me go, I would like to be in a movie, but also be producing it. Oh, yeah. Then you're thinking about not just your scene. Like, we were around there watching other people's scenes, like pitching lines that would make them funnier. You know what I mean? Like, and a lot of times like in entertainment, only care about themselves. So they do their. And then they go home. But this wasn't like that. Like, people were showing up to set when they weren't even there and just hanging.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow. I mean, they all y' all were in Australia. It's not like they had any place to go.

[Andrew Schulz]

But, you know, you're in Sydney. Like, you could party. It's a real city.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And like rice spices walking rice spice might be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Streaming.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, that is a great thing to think about. Cause, you know, we definitely want to do a movie. I want to do a brilliant idiots flagrant.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is what I said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Die code mashup written by James Gunn.

[Andrew Schulz]

Bro, you know, he DMed me when I was out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get the fuck out of here.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think he saw us. He said, thank you for the kind words. I think he saw us talking about Superman on this call.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get the fuck out of here. Swear to God, you got me checking my.

[Andrew Schulz]

Red. You left him on red.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody I know was just with James. Oh, no, it was fucking Alex. Yeah, fucking James Gunn recorded at one of the fucking WTF's.

[Andrew Schulz]

No way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, he tell us.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, James, come on the pod, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How the you don't.

[Andrew Schulz]

James, we need you on the pod.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, James, he is. I. I think he's a phenomenal comedy writer.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's the goat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he's not even writing actual comedies.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what makes it fun. Like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what I even. We were talking, even with the. Not to make it about this movie. But it was like, the more you can get, people convince people that the drama is real, the funnier the funny parts will be because they're breaking up the severity of the drama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's like a horror movie. Like, the greater the tension, the bigger the fright.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Think about Friday. Friday. People look at Friday as a comedy. That's a fucking thriller. That's a drama thriller. Fucking Chris Tucker owes Big Worm money and Big Worm wants to kill them. He's like, you don't have my money by this day, you're going to die. Just think about that. But it's all the funny that's in it. You know what I mean? Coming to America is a love story. It's actually a drama. Think about how that must feel to be like, damn, I don't want to marry this woman just because I'm supposed to. I got to break all these world traditions. I'm going to go to America, live like a poor person to try to find love. All the comedy is within that amazing drama thriller story. That's what the fuck you need.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that's what everybody who does it right gets. It's like, I. I actually think the funniest movies are the ones where we genuinely believe the drama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Not even just movies. Real life scenarios. Fleece Johnson, booty warrior. Hilarious. But he's raping men.

[Andrew Schulz]

People have made like, that's James Gunn's newest character. We gotta teach him about Fleece Johnson.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you ain't seen Peacemaker?

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I've heard?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. I mean, fucking Aaron McGruder did. Please. Johnson as the booty warrior on the boondocks. People laugh at that shit. Makes catches. But it's. Oh, this man was real. He was on a. What was that show called? Dateline or some shit? Yeah, he was on Dateline on one of them. Shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

I saw. I saw him on a dating show. Like an online dating.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

Him and. Oh, he was the guy's name. He was from Atlanta. I think he was like Thug Woody. Yeah, him and Woody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I did. It was Pop the balloon.

[Andrew Schulz]

Pop. It was something like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pop the balloon.

[Andrew Schulz]

They're both there and like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But think about that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. How scary that is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was raping men. But you watched it and every comedy writer's mind went, that's hilarious.

[Andrew Schulz]

He describes it like dessert. Like, have you heard him, like, in his prison Booty. Booty was more important than food. Booty, a man's butt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Having some booty was more important than drinking water. I like booty.

[Andrew Schulz]

It is. It is just visceral the way he describes it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bro, listen, I'm gonna be like 56. I want to speak that into fruition. A brilliant idiots, flagrant guy. Cold mashup comedy written by James Gunn.

[Andrew Schulz]

James, we need you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? We need you. Like, that shit would be hilarious and serious. Even the shit that I saw Kevin, them doing. Kevin, I knew about the script anyway. But Kevin Drewski and Kai.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. They have a movie coming out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a murder. Who done it? It's a mystery who done it. Like, there's a dead body and it's called the livestream from hell.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's like, yo, that's what you do. You gotta put these funny scenarios rooted in, like, a high stakes drama situation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Where is that? Is that in theaters? Is that streaming? Where is that gonna be?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know where it's gonna be, but if they put it on whatever streaming platform is gonna be on, it's gonna Break. Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

See you later. It's. It's just interesting because when I was out there, like, obviously, you know, a lot of the actors, they're like, obsessed with film. You know what I mean? Like, that is their thing, right. And we're just talking about the industry in general, and we had this conversation and it was like, who are the young. There's a difference between a movie star and an actor. Like a big actor and like a movie star, they were defining as someone who, if they're in the movie, people show up. Okay. Like, for example, like Chris Evans, I think that's his name, Right? The guy who plays Captain America. Captain America, like, amazing. Is Captain America. Phenomenal. But are we coming because of Chris Evans or are we becoming. Because of the ip?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is the ip. Absolutely. Because Chris has been in other stuff.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. But Leonardo DiCaprio can be in a movie about something we don't even know, and we're going to show up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How did the new shit do? How did one battle after another, Everybody.

[Andrew Schulz]

Talking about that, like, I'm the most cynical comedian, folks that I know that say, every movie sucks are like, this is the best movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm going to go watch it this weekend. I did a screening for it last week and didn't even say.

[Andrew Schulz]

You didn't even watch it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't even stay, bro. Bro. I didn't even stay. They asked me to do it. Warner Brothers asked me to do it.

[Andrew Schulz]

You posted about it and everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did, but, you know, you know, they paid me to do it. But the. I liked about it, it was, you know, I like anything free for people.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, like, okay, all these people can come for free. But they was like. And also the cast wants to come. I'm like, oh, I'll do it. That's. Cause that's. And it was surprising the audience.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So we did it at the AMC theater. Theater was packed. All these people came just to, you know, because I did the screening and then Leo walks out. Leo. Teyana Taylor. What's the Spanish. Spanish guy? Name?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, Benicio Del Toro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Benicio Del Toro.

[Andrew Schulz]

Phenomenal actor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The writer, Paul.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, what's his name? The director. Paul Thomas Anderson.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Paul Thomas Anderson. Everybody was there except for Regina hall and Sean Penn.

[Andrew Schulz]

So, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Leonardo DiCaprio was there. Mendocino Del Toro. Teyana Taylor. Chase Infinity. And there was another young lady there, too. Yeah, she was a black woman. Can't remember her name, but this was Chase's first movie. Can you imagine your first movie being with Leonardo DiCaprio? And Paul Anderson said it took him 220 years to write this film.

[Andrew Schulz]

I love that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said he's had this idea for 20 years. What is her name? Yeah, Shayna. Shayna McHale.

[Andrew Schulz]

Shayna McHale.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Yeah, bro, let me tell you how crazy this is. I hadn't seen the movie yet, right? So we bought the cast out before the movie, and I didn't stay for it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I can't believe you didn't stay for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I hear Paul look at Shayna and go, jungle pussy. So I'm like, whoa, wait a minute now. Do I say something? I don't want to be the woke liberal here, right? But I'm like, how you just gonna turn to the black woman and say jungle pussy? But nobody else reacted. And so I'm like, all right, maybe this guy. Maybe this is an inside joke with them. That's her name in the movie.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yes. No, he did give her that name. He wrote the movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't care. It's a movie, though. I just was like. I was a little confused. And he. We're in front of everybody. I'm like, yo.

[Andrew Schulz]

And it's before the movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Before the movie.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, no, bro. Yeah, we gotta tell him. Wait, wait for open weekend to be yelling, jungle pussy. A black one. Come on. Come on, Paul. Oh, come on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It did 22 million. I don't know if that's good or bad. I know. The budget was crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

This movie is going to be great. It's the amount of conversation around the movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Is very few movies lately that I've heard this much talk about it. Like, and they. And they did social media, right? They hit the podcast, did the event this live like that, like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you know what? It is a thriller comedy. You cannot tell that by the trailer. By the trailer. You do not see any comedy in that movie.

[Andrew Schulz]

I heard it's like fire is funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I heard, too. I heard that shit is hilarious. I'm going this week. I'm gonna go Friday, actually.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I also don't like watching movies at screenings, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

You. You don't? Yeah. You don't like being around lots of people?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah. I want to go in on a matinee, go in the back of the theater, get my popcorn, my peanut M. It's like a. It's. It's peaceful for me, like, you know what I mean? Especially after a long week, you know what I mean? Listening to fucking, you know, rappers with their Twitter rants and all of this shit. Like, it's like, it's like, it's like a good week. You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

You need to check out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to check out. Like, you know, I mean, I don't care about this shit, you know, Like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm glad you're back, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Me too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did you miss the most? What was the story that had you? Like, oh, no. Like, I can't even concentrate on this script.

[Andrew Schulz]

That Charlie Kirk. That Charlie Kirk was wild. That Charlie Kirk was wild.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

I feel like a million things happened. Like, that's why I did that piece. I did a little piece on the Charlie Kirk while I was there, and it was like I had, like, a few days off, and I was like, I gotta put my brain to work for something. But. But yeah, man, I'm trying to think. What else? What else?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What shocked you the most about the Charlie Kirk situation?

[Andrew Schulz]

I think it was, like, how quickly it was politicized.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, same, yo. I mean, like, that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. And it, like, it kind of demoralized me a little bit. Like, it kind of made me sad, because what did anybody learn from it? Nothing. It's like, any event. Yeah. We live in, like, this social media age or whatever, where, like, there's just so much information. You can confirm whatever you feel. But, like, think about it. Nobody learned anything from it. Whatever everybody already felt, they just put on top of the issue. So, like, the second it happened, they found out that the kid's dad was maga, Whatever. Like that. And they're like, see, it's one of you guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But was he MAGA or just a registered Republican?

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. Whatever. He's a registered Republican. Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then.

[Andrew Schulz]

And then the conservatives found out that his girl was a tranny or whatever like that. And then he was like, see, this is what happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was that confirmed? He looked like he wasn't getting no pussy or busy or whatever. I don't even know, Tussie. Is it Toosie? I don't know, but.

[Andrew Schulz]

And then the conspiracy theorists were like, israel did it. It's like what everybody already felt before it happened. They just painted on top of what happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And. And it was just like, the dehumanization of it, too. Like, just the people that were seemingly celebrating, it was. It was just crazy. It's like, wow, people, really, they're not seeing each other as human beings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that, you know, I. Like Wayne W. Dyer, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wayne W. Dyer always talks about letting go of your need to be right. And I think that everybody needs to let go of their need to be right. I Pulled this up just. They should challenge your ego. Cultivate humility and empathy. Focus on understanding and collaboration rather than personal victory. And practice mindfulness and self compassion. We just live in an era where everybody wants to be right. And sometimes these situations aren't even about right. Like you should be trying to learn something else from said situation. Like what is there to learn from this Charlie Kurt situation? And that's how I look at every single situation that happens. What are we learning?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, what is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're not learning nothing. It's just noise.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. And like what. How is this going to change us? How are we going to reflect on this and see what we could do better? Like, clearly there's a lot of dehumanization going along. So like what do we do about that? Like how do we start to see people as humans? And the Charlie thing is like even talking about it, it exposed to me because I started watching a bunch of his things. He DM me before really Charlie. And he did something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did I talk? Are you. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

We had like a little interaction and he did something that I really, I really respect and I understand that he is very like, you know, he's, he's very politicized and the algorithm has created different versions of him for different people and all that kind of stuff. But he, he saw a headline of me and we'd never spoke and he hit me up and he was just like, hey, or maybe we had dim before or something like that. But they hit me and says, hey, I saw this headline. It seems like you're saying this thing. Is that what you mean? And I was like, no, they're actually taking this thing out of context and this is what I was actually trying to say. And blah, blah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's like, he understood. He got it, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

I cannot. There are friends people that I would consider friends, people that I've helped, people that I've gotten visas to work in America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Akash, no. What?

[Andrew Schulz]

Those H1BV's is all not like, like that. That have jumped to make content off of a headline that was taken out of context about me or something that people are framing that I said that wasn't that good. And they jump to make content, they jump to monetize, they jump to get clicks and views without simply just messaging me and asking for clarification. Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody like Charlie has a different lens. Right. And the reason I say that is because he's probably a person that is. They do that to him all the time. So yeah, I get it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I honestly think. I know this is like, and again, I understand how radioactive he is. Right. Like, there are different. What this whole thing exposed to me is just like how fractured social media has made Americans, but also just like the world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it's over.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because, like, no, no, for real. Cause think about, like there is a different version of Charlie Kirk depending on who you are. Yes. And the algorithm will feed you the things that confirm your belief about that person. So if you're a, like God fearing, right wing Christian, you're gonna get all this content about Charlie that speaks to that, about how important family is to him, about how important his Christianity, his beliefs are to him. And you're like, wow, this is a really great man. And then if you're a person that doesn't like conservative rhetoric and you think conservatives are bigots, you're going to get all of those 30 second clips with no context of all the things that he said. They're like, oh, I don't trust black pilots, or whatever. The thing is, you're not going to get the whole conversation where that happened. You're not going to get anything that would actually give you nuance. So it's like the algorithm flattens all of us, you, me, Charlie, everybody, into these two dimensional avatars. And then people watch four or five clips where people are reacting to that person and then they go, oh, I guess this is what everybody thinks of that person. And then people feel really confident having these strong opinions of people that they.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do not know at all. I've written about this and I think it might have been a get honest or die lying. But we, this era, it's like the multiverse. Right. So that's why, that's why when people say, like, you know, oh, I don't like Charlamagne, it doesn't offend me. And the reason it doesn't offend me is because I don't know what version of Charlamagne you witnessed. You know what I'm saying? Like, it don't bother me. You might have saw something from 10 years ago, you might have saw something from recently that you don't like. But then you also might have saw me over here talking about mental health. You might have saw me over here talking about having a political take. There's so many different versions of us that exist. Like, I can literally go down my timeline for one story and it'll be like, you didn't support Kamala Harris. And then literally the next comment will be like, see, this is why Democrats will never win, because people like charlamagne can't stop glazing Kamala Harris. Like, literally, it'll be the comments back to back. I'm talking about, this happened one minute, this happened the next minute. So it's just like, what are you supposed to do with that? I'm not upset about anybody's opinion of me because I just don't know what they saw to have that opinion.

[Andrew Schulz]

So back in the day, there was this thing that I think Jon Stewart referred to as, like, the laundering of news. And it was like the Fox News to New York Post pipeline. I don't know if you've heard about this. So, like, on Fox News, there'd be like an opinion piece. Right. And then that would happen, like, earlier in the day, and then by the night, that opinion piece would be reported on by the news, and then in the morning, it would be the front page of the Post. So you take an opinion and then you turn it into fact.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And now we don't really trust, like, traditional media anymore. Right. Like, so this is part of Trump going fake news. It's also part of, like, legacy media, you know, pushing us into fucking wars and lying about weapons of mass destruction for years. So we have, like, lost some faith. But for some reason, we believe if we see a random person on TikTok saying something in their house and they.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don'T know what the fuck they talking about either.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. None of these people, they don't know. There's no fact checking, nothing. But what it is, is we don't. It's not that we believe them. It's if we see four or five videos in a row, we think that's what everyone feels.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So the algorithm gives you this sense of this is what the world is feeling. And then we start going, well, if I don't feel that way, then I'll be an outsider. So then we go, I guess that's how I feel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I hear people say stuff like that. They'll be like, you know, this conversation is going all around the world because that's what the algorithm makes them feel. It's probably 20 people, bro. Like, it's literally probably 20 fucking people. You know the best conversation I saw about the Charlie Kirk shit? Ta Nehisi Coates and Ezra Klein.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know why? Because it was a good faith conversation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it was two people who had two different opinions. They agreed to disagree. And I don't think either one of them were really that far apart on what they wanted their ultimate goal to be with said conversation. I think both of them were looking for sanity in all of this chaos, you know what I'm saying? And Ta Nehisi had a perspective, and Ezra had a perspective. And I don't even think Ezra's perspective was what Ta Nehisi thought it was like, Ta Nehisi. And I'm probably pronouncing Ta Nehisi's name all wrong, but y' all know I can't pronounce shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

Just do go with Coates.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Coates. Mr. Coates. I think that Mr. Coates was saying he didn't like the whitewashing of Charlie Kirk. Right. Because you should be able to discuss somebody's. When they pass, you should be able to discuss them in their whole totality. Like, you shouldn't. Nothing should be fragmented. Everything should be on the table. And you can acknowledge what happened to him was wrong.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? What happened to him was wrong. What happened to him was tragic. I wouldn't wish that on anybody. Right. Because I wouldn't want something like that to happen to me just because somebody doesn't agree with my opinion. But we should still be able to discuss their whole legacy and it's, you know, totality. And I guess that's the. That's what he didn't like about Ezra Klein's approach. And I don't even think that's what Ezra was trying to do.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I don't think. I think what Ezra is trying to do is basically say, like, we have to. If you actually want to win an election, you have to wide the scope of acceptability of the people into your coalition. So it's like, if Democrats are going to win, they can't just be pointing fingers and saying that people aren't good enough and that they're not liberal enough and they're not accepting enough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Chris Distefano]

That's why he brought up the deplorables with Hillary Clinton.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes, with Hillary Clinton. And like, I actually think what. What Ezra is saying is like, he's operating in the real world. Ezra is going, hey, I actually care about winning elections.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ta Nehisi, too, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ta Nehisi said. I would have never said the deplorable comment.

[Andrew Schulz]

I've been obsessing recently for a piece.

[Chris Distefano]

I've been writing about the Hillary Clinton deplorables comment.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I want to play it, you know, to just be grossly generalistic. You can put half of Trump's supporters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Into what I call the basket of deplorables.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right. They're racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, electronic Islamophobic. You name it. And unfortunately, there are people like that, and he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That used to only have 11,000 people.

[Andrew Schulz]

Now have 11 million.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He tweets and retweets.

[Andrew Schulz]

They're offensive, hateful, me spirited rhetoric.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, some of those folks, they are.

[Andrew Schulz]

Irredeemable, but thankfully, they are not American. What do you think when you hear that?

[Ta-Nehisi Coates]

She probably shouldn't have said it, but.

[Andrew Schulz]

You think it's true?

[Ta-Nehisi Coates]

I mean, it's probably not how I would say it, but, you know, I mean, there are things that I would say. You know, I probably would say what I said earlier, you know, in the interview about the force of. And I mean, as I've been saying this probably since as long as we've been talking, you know, but I'm not. I just want to be clear about something. I shouldn't be running for president of the United States.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean?

[Ta-Nehisi Coates]

And my expectations for the rhetoric of writers, intellectuals, journalists, et cetera, is very, very different than what the expectation should be for people who expect to hold office.

[Andrew Schulz]

But what Ezra's doing is when you actually want to win an election, you have to have this type of language and rhetoric, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's exactly why they were on the same page. Remember what I said before we walked in? I was telling Chris the reason I like that convo and the thing that I think is getting lost in that is what Ta Nehisi was saying about how you win elections. He essentially was saying, like, I don't want Barack Obama saying certain things because I know he can't win. You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

Who was saying that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ta Nehisi. So I don't know if it was about reparations or not. It might have been about reparations. He was talking. I think it might have been about reparations because he was talking about how. It was an article he wrote called.

[Andrew Schulz]

He said the thing about it was Kamala. Remember? He was like, I had to go speak to these people who are these Palestinian people who are suffering based on what's happening in Palestine right now. But I had to tell them I got to support this woman who was doing nothing during the Biden administration, would continue to do nothing afterwards because of something I want.

[Ta-Nehisi Coates]

Kamala Harris was running to be the first black woman to be president of the United States. You cannot imagine how animated black folks were. And some would argue the base of the Democratic Party, black women, you know, we're gonna see this thing. She was not taking a position that I thought was particularly moral. I had to talk in front of black audiences about that, you know what I mean? And I had to do the other thing, which was go before Arab American audiences here, Palestinian American audience is here, and say, look, I'm with you. You can be mad at me, you probably will be mad at me, I get it. But for me, politics is the lesser of two evils. We've been fighting this battle for a long time. We have never had the luxury of electing people that represented the best of us. And this is why I'm voting for her.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that's a mature way of looking at politics.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

But the problem is the algorithm does not care about mature ways of looking at anything. If you look at a lot of the reaction to that interview, it's not same conversation, it's finger pointing. It's, oh, Ezra missed this and oh, Tana, see this, that. And it's just like, because that's what works. The rage bait works online. And I actually hit up Ezra about, I was like, you're doing the right thing, but you got it. I hope you're ready for. When you're a nuanced person, you get to piss off everybody. Because there's so much reward online in engaging in saying, oh, this person's sitting on the fence, or this person, maybe we need to get closer to the fence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I enjoyed, listen, I enjoyed the conversation. I thought they, they probably agreed on more things than they, that they disagreed on, but when they disagreed, it was just a civil, good faith conversation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Chris Distefano]

They're also friends, which helps.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

That kind of stuff. And then you know that there was a point where I think that, like, I think Ta Nehisi was like, I have a different responsibility. I'm a journalist. Right. Like, so I think I talk about these things and I share my pins on this. I'm not like running for elected office, et cetera.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, but that's real though, right? And you know who's dealing with that right now? Zoran Mandani. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's different when you are activist and you saying certain things, but now you running for office, gotta build a coalition. You get into the finish line, you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, oh, you gotta pull people in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And those same people that were supporting him, you got a lot of people that's just like, what are you doing? Why did you say that? Blah, blah, blah. And it's just like, yo, he's trying to win an election. Yo.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yup.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you really believe he is who he says he is. And you believe that he's going to implement change. Let them go out there and cook.

[Andrew Schulz]

But.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

But it's not good enough for people. And what people can't do is look at human beings as three dimensional beings. Right. It's like we. It's so funny. There are opinions that I'm sure a Charlie Kirk has or a Ta Nehisi codes or any of these figures, right? Not saying they're the same, but like, their opinions that they might have that you disagree with. Their opinions that you disagree with. With your dad or your grandfather.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Your family members might have really bigoted opinions about certain things that you think are deplorable, but at the same time, you love how they treat their grandma. They were at every single one of your football games. You know, they love you more than anything in the world. So it doesn't make sense.

[Chris Distefano]

But would you love them the same way if they had the ability in scale to impact people's lives?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That, that's.

[Andrew Schulz]

That. Let me get to that point, because I think what you're saying makes sense. What I'm saying is you have the ability to just see them as a human, right? You see things that they have that are flaws, but they're still a human. But right now, with. So with the way that we consume all information, there is no humanity. All you are a collection of ideas that I hate or a collection of ideas that I love. There's extreme reactions. And the problem with that is that if you're a collection of ideas that I hate, right? Then somebody shoots you, and then people celebrate because they thing that you hate instead of looking at that person like, that's also a father, and that's also somebody who was trying to make the world a better place than what he saw, and he was driven by God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're absolutely right, Schultz. What you're saying is we're making everybody disposable. Yes, we're making everybody disposable. Even when we say things like, oh, they're canceled, they're done. Like, you're literally making humans disposable.

[Andrew Schulz]

We have more empathy for people outside of our country that we disagree with than people inside of our country. And I understand that proximity increases fear, which is what you're talking about. About. Right. But, like, there are people. There are people, I'm sure, around the world that we deeply care about. Like, obviously, you see, like, the, like, people bring this up all the time. They're like, how stupid is it? There are queers For Palestine. Like, they bring up this argument. It's like, that's actually not stupid. That's incredible humanity, caring about someone's life, right. Even though they might disagree with yours. That's not a stupid person. That's an amazingly beautiful, open minded person that goes. That person disagrees with me on maybe the most fundamental thing that I care about. But they're still a fucking human being. So I want them to exist. That, like, I wish that we had that type of empathy for our fellow Americans and not just the people abroad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's got to be some sodomy going on in Palestine. All right? Like, I'm just saying there's got to be some down. I know it's a religion. It's got to be, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, I mean, the reason hummus was invented was lube.

[Chris Distefano]

There's a famous quote. Quote about. I mean, it's Thomas. No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is the quote?

[Chris Distefano]

There's a town. The quote is the birds fly over it with one wing because they have to cover their ass with their other wings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, no. But that is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the is that about? I don't know what. But I read it. Who's the birds?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, Jesus.

[Chris Distefano]

If it moves.

[Andrew Schulz]

If it moves.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are they anything?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah. Someone already got that goat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that goat. That goat's tired. That goat had a long day. That goat had a long day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why? They don't want the women, though?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, they do want the women, man, but you gotta marry them. You don't gotta marry them, though. You gotta marinate them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe that's. Let me leave them alone.

[Andrew Schulz]

I can make that joke. I'm Scottish. They say we sheep. They say we fuck sheep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

I don't even know what that means, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That means that people, federal workers won't Be getting paid. That means federal workers will be getting furloughed. That means that, you know, if you're not considered. No, that means that even if you're an essential worker, you still got to go to work. You still don't get a check. That means that active duty troops still gotta report duty and not get paid.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's silly. And you know, the illest thing about this is that Republicans have found a way to blame this on Democrats. But Republicans, y' all have all the power.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why? Yeah, don't they control.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You control everything. So who are the dissenting votes they blamed it on? I've seen them. I've seen them blame it on one person.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Aoc, but she. I don't even know. I saw Nancy on Fox. I think Nancy was on Fox. Nancy, maybe. Nancy say, I just want y' all to know that the government is shut down because of a former bartender from the Bronx.

[Andrew Schulz]

Everyone needs to know that the government is shutting down tonight because of a bartender from the Bronx. Chuck Schumer is so afraid of AOC primarying him for the US Senate in New York. That's what this is all about. So he's catering to the far, far left of his party. The other thing is they'd rather fund health care for illegal aliens than pay our troops. Like, that's where we are tonight. Good luck with that in the midterms.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, God damn. But how come Democrats can't message that Republicans, y' all have all the power. Y' all are the ones in control. Y' all are the government right now. Y' all chose to do this.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think the tricky thing with Dems right now is the establishment Democrats have nothing to offer. And the American people know that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dems are walking into Congress with one hand over their asshole. Okay? They walking into. They walking in the government, one hand over the asshole because they getting fucked at every turn.

[Andrew Schulz]

Lindsey Graham is right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lindsay's like, finally.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But.

[Andrew Schulz]

But like the establishment ones really just have nothing to offer the American people. The New Democrats, right? The Zoramdanis, the AOCs, and then Bernie, the guy who has been spearheaded this movement, they have something to offer. And the reason I know that they have something to offer is they don't talk about Trump constantly. All Mamdani talks about New York, he talks about what he wants to do with New York, like his ideas or hate his ideas. That's fine. You can be critical of someone's ideas. This is America. But he actually has something to offer. He believes he has something to Offer people. He goes, hey, we're gonna do things to help your life. The establishment Democrats, this is kind of what I realized. I was like, they got nothing to offer.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I watched him.

[Andrew Schulz]

So the only thing they could do is go, he's bad. Look how bad he is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I watched him on cnn. He did an interview with Aaron Burnett the other day, and it was a good interview. And yes, he was just dropping what he wanted to do, all his policies. And they asked him about Trump calling him a communist. And he didn't even stay on that too long. Bro, think about.

[Andrew Schulz]

Think about it. You're a rest, right? How do you promote people to come into your restaurant? Do you say, yo, all those other restaurants are horrible. You don't want to eat there. Their food is bad? Or do you talk about how delicious your food is? Yeah, if you got good food, tell me about it. But if you got nothing to sell, then all you can do is slander the opposition.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maidani is going to be either a home run or a big swing and a miss.

[Chris Distefano]

If he wins.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If he wins.

[Andrew Schulz]

Listen, if he wins and it's a swing and a miss, right? Like, that is a devastating blow. But I think that the swing and a miss might come from him not being able to implement the thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Simple as that. But that's why it's a swing and a miss. So it's like you gotta. You still gotta temper people's expectations. I believe that. I keep telling people, go back and watch what President Obama said when he was campaigning with Kamala. And the way he spoke about how sometimes, and I'm paraphrasing, but how sometimes Democrats just promise too much. You just promise the world to people. Politicians do that in general. They promise the world. Promise the world. And then people are micromanaging things so much now, they're like, well, you said you was gonna do X, Y and Z, and you didn't do this. So they're gonna be on Mandani about getting a lot of the things that he said he was going to do done and when he's not gonna be able to implement those things. Since people don't understand politics, they gonna crucify him for it. And then he's gonna also have to play ball, right?

[Chris Distefano]

I mean, hasn't Trump promised 500 things in the first month of his second administration? None of them came to pass. It doesn't seem to impact him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he won twice already.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, but you know why it doesn't impact him?

[Chris Distefano]

Why?

[Andrew Schulz]

Is because there's nothing else that is being offered up all it is is whining and crying about Trump. Tell us, will a Democrat come out and tell us how they're gonna make people's lives better?

[Chris Distefano]

I think they have. It just doesn't resonate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who? And I think I get emails every day from Hakeem.

[Chris Distefano]

Jeff. And they're laying out garbage. No, but that's to my point. People are laying out plans and giving specifics. Most people. Just.

[Andrew Schulz]

What does Hakeem specifically say?

[Chris Distefano]

I mean, I can go to my email right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hakeem, definitely.

[Chris Distefano]

This guy emails me every day of the week.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hakeem definitely got his butthole covered.

[Chris Distefano]

So the point is, we don't want to hear it anymore from a certain part of that party, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris Distefano]

And part of it is that Mandami has new ideas that have kind of risen above the noise, but I think it's also just like fresh energy on a certain level is resonating with people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree, but I think, you know, listen, if he wins, like I said, he's gonna have to get things done.

[Chris Distefano]

Well, what does he have to do to win?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, right now you need some black people and some Jewish people on his side. Good luck.

[Andrew Schulz]

Mumdani's a perfect example of what we were talking about, about, like, the flattening of people. Like, there are certain people that truly just believe he is a anti Semitic communist. They literally believe that is who he is as a person. And then there's other people that believe that he's a young, smart liberator that's trying to help people that are struggling to make it through in a very expensive city. This is the same person. And online, there are two different versions of him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe 10.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, exactly. There's 20. There's a million different ones.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's like Muslims got mad at him the other day because he said he wanted to decriminalize for us when he was on Rose El Scado. Like, he kind of had to explain that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Do you support decriminalizing prostitution? Yes. Right now, what we see in this moment is we have an approach that is not putting safety first. What we saw with the previous mayoral administration was an end to the raids that we saw on sex workers, an end to prosecutions that were taking place of sex workers themselves. What we have to bring to City hall is a focus on ending sex. Sex trafficking, on ensuring that there is no tolerance for violence against women, and also having safety at the cornerstone of all the policies that we pursue. And when we look at the findings of, whether it be the world health organizations or the United Nations Working Group on the Safety of Girls and Women. We find that decriminalization is one that actually provides the most safety for these. Now a lot of people are concerned about the young girls being trafficked, the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Muslims, like, what do you mean you want to decriminalize prostitution? Like, even though Diddy would love that. Right. But.

[Chris Distefano]

And he won't do it anyway, so what's the difference?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he said he wanted to.

[Chris Distefano]

Well, I don't know. I think the crime thing is going to be a challenge for him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The crime thing is going to be.

[Chris Distefano]

It's a challenge for me. Like, if I had one reservation, it's. I've often said I'm a little more like pro policing than probably a lot of other people who share ideas with me.

[Andrew Schulz]

And like, bro, it doesn't work.

[Chris Distefano]

This idea that, like, the fund's not gonna work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like, I like what he says when he says refund. Social services, though. Sure.

[Andrew Schulz]

Look, at the end of the day, you don't do something because you're worried about the punishment. I would love for us to sit here and go, like, we're not gonna do it because, you know, forgiveness is important and we're all gonna know how. If we had the right opportunity, we had the right money, we would do the right thing. You know how many friends of mine that came from like upper middle class backgrounds ended up selling drugs because it was fun and they were lazy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean? It's just like you need punishment. Unfortunately, we are human beings.

[Chris Distefano]

Well, we have punishment. I don't know if we have enforcement all the time. And that's the issue.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think there's a great. It's in the middle.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's catch and release.

[Chris Distefano]

Yeah, you're right.

[Andrew Schulz]

So like, you need, I promise you, you start punishing people, they'll stop committing crimes immediately.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but what happened? But show us what happens when you punish them. Right? Like catch and release is one thing, but. Okay, let's say you catch somebody who has been committing crimes. Right?

[Chris Distefano]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happens when they're in the system? Are you actually trying to make them better? They call it a correctional system. Are you actually trying to correct anything? Are you teaching them how to eat better? Are you giving them proper mental health services? Are you letting them learn a trade that they can take with them when they do get out into society? Are you giving them a higher education while they're in there? Don't just take these people and lock them up and throw away the key. There should be some rehabilitation for these People. So when they go back out in the streets, then maybe they can go find a job and don't have to resort to a life of crime. If you're putting them in a situation where they go into these jails and now they just gotta survive one hand on their motherfucking butthole, you know what I'm saying? Literally. Right. They become more savage. They become more of an animal. Like, let's rehabilitate these people, send them back out.

[Andrew Schulz]

I like that.

[Chris Distefano]

But there is one line between this conversation and the Charlie Kirk conversation that I feel is at the core of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But talk to me.

[Chris Distefano]

Guns.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Chris Distefano]

I'm not guns.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not. Listen, I'm a 2A all day. I believe in my right to bear arms, but I also believe in common sense gun reform. I believe in common sense gun legislation. Some of these weapons don't need to be on the mother's.

[Andrew Schulz]

80% of people believe in it. You know, it is a.

[Chris Distefano]

There are too many. We thought we had a scooter problem.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no. Nobody thought that was too.

[Chris Distefano]

The guns problem 1 and 1 a problem 1 and 1 a. Guns and scooters. RIP Eric Adams finally came out against scooters right at the end. You said RIP Eric Adams to his candidacy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

But he.

[Chris Distefano]

He took a hard stand at the end. Put. Took a hard stand on scooters at the end. I'll respect him for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, Chris, I'm Be honest with you. This is one of the problems with liberal. We in here talking about some real.

[Chris Distefano]

You know, hey, violence is violence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got to stop. These school scooters. These school scootings, man. Bro, school schoolings, man. These school. School. It's too many masks. School scootings in America shows we gotta stop. Okay? There's too many mass school scootings, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

It is crazy that, like, with Trump dropping the ball on so many of the things that he promised, the Democrats haven't been able to, like, pick up steam. What is that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, we've said that. We said this a million times. Yes, we know Trump is going to fumble or the Democrats don't have the team to pick up the fucking ball.

[Andrew Schulz]

But why is that? And it seems that, like, people are. I don't know, maybe they're angry. I don't know. There's just like, a lot of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got thoughts. I got plenty of thoughts on that. I've said it a million times. I think. Because they haven't acknowledged the big lie yet.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now Kamala has done it in her book 107 days, the original sin. Did it, Corinne Jean Pierre got a book coming out. But more Democrats have to acknowledge the big lie now. Throw that old regime under the bus and literally just. It needs to be blown up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, the amount of people. Let me tell you how, how, how, like, what is it when you're not willing to reflect? You're just, you know, when you ignore your problems. What is that word?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not having any mirrors? I don't know.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, but literally, it's like, oh, God, I can't believe I'm forgetting this word. But the lack of, like, self reflection or self awareness. Yeah, self awareness. Or like, you just not facing your problem.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Accountability.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're ignoring, you know, the lack of accountability or whatever it is. Basically the amount of DMs or tweets or whatever I'll get about people that literally think that me, Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn are responsible for Trump becoming president, that don't think that the fact that Democrats ran a dead guy and then a woman that couldn't talk had anything to do with this, that just shows that they're not willing to be in reality. Like, all these people are just like, let's ignore what's happening in our house and let's point blame, let's scapegoat, let's find out what's going on in the world. It's like, you ran a dead guy that we all knew were dead, you gaslit us into thinking that he wasn't, and now you're writing books about how he was. And then you ran a very unpopular candidate that said she was gonna do all the same things as the dead guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ran the running mate of one of the most unpopular presidents ever, and you gave her 107 days to do it when her approval ratings was lower than him. So not only does she have to dig herself up out of that grave, she gotta do some allow me to reintroduce myself shit, and that's impossible to do in 107 days. That's why I genuinely enjoyed her book, man. I enjoyed her book because there was accountability there. I've seen people say it's a book full of excuses.

[Andrew Schulz]

It is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But who doesn't have excuses when they lose, right? And by the way, I wouldn't even call them excuses so much as to.

[Andrew Schulz]

Say, does she acknowledge not coming on the pods?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, that's another revision. She has a whole chapter about Joe Rogan, and she said, people completely fucked that up. She actually said, now, hold on, let me make sure I'm getting That. Right. She actually said it was Rogan's team that was not being honest about that situation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I bet. Let me make sure I know for a fact her team has lied about us, like 100% fact.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. She said she wanted to appear on Rogan Rogan's podcast on October 25, 2024, when he chose to interview Donald Trump instead. She alleges that Rogan later made false claims that her campaign had placed restrictions on topics for the interview. In late 2024, Harris campaign made an offer for a one hour off site interview in D.C. where Rogan insisted on an open ended in studio conversation in Austin, which her team rejected. Age suggested that some of her more progressive advisors were concerned about the optics of an appearance on Rogan's podcast given his history of controversial remarks. She talks about all of this in the book.

[Andrew Schulz]

But it's just so like, it's just so interesting that like the revisionist history is like, Trump wins because he comes on these comedians podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

As opposed to the other side just.

[Andrew Schulz]

Being bad though, that the other side was also invited onto. Like, how are we responsible for their bad decisions?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're going to be talking about this till the day you die.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who is Me?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because it's actually a moment in time, whether we realize it or not. You don't realize it till you like, dang, this isn't a book like you read these things. They're in books. Like we are part of history. Like whether you want to. Whether you want to be or not.

[Chris Distefano]

It's similar to 1960 in a way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wasn't there, Chris.

[Chris Distefano]

Neither was I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened? What happened?

[Chris Distefano]

But I've read about it in books.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, talk to me.

[Chris Distefano]

So there was a technological shift in 1960. The debate between Kennedy and Nixon was the first presidential debate that was ever televised. So coming into it, Kennedy was young and vibrant and energized and Nixon was old. Compounding that he hit his knee against his car door. He had an injured knee and he was sweating and freaking out. And that's in retrospect, what people say shifted the election because the technology had changed. People never had a chance to see the candidates before and they were such a stark contrast. And I think with podcasting and the shift in media for this election, it's the same thing where there's this shift happening in one space and then the politics kind of dovetails into it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you have. Absolutely right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can I, Can I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can I bring up something about this which is. I'll tie it back in okay, there's no young, like movie stars right now. There's no young, like action stars.

[Chris Distefano]

Timothy Shalom.

[Andrew Schulz]

I would say he's a. He's a Mooser, but he's not like a. He's not like a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're not box office yet.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm not being critical of Timmy. Like, obviously he's very successful and he's talented, but like outside, like Timothy, it's like, who is the young Tom Cruise? Like, when we were growing up, there were all these guys, there was Bruce Willis, there was like 20 different young actors that were like, it's not Timothy. No, no, he's one. But I'm saying, like, he's one like, and I don't even know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I would have to ask my daughter. Like, she'd be into those because there.

[Chris Distefano]

Were only a limited amount of platforms when we were growing up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, well, yes, but, but I also think what happened is, I think that Hollywood kind of ignored what was happening. I think what happens is less people were going to movies. Hollywood got scared. They started putting the same stars that they know could draw in movies. Like Tom Cruise is still doing Mission Impossible, right? Like he's 70 years old. Like, he's still hanging off of planes. He's seven. Like they haven't gotten the 50 year old version of that. Like the 30, the 20. Like, so I think what Hollywood did is they started to freak out and they started, okay, let's keep on putting Indiana Jones in movies. Let's keep on doing the folks that are watching.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They were trying to play it safe.

[Andrew Schulz]

They're trying to play safe because the budgets are 200 million, et cetera. And then what happened is the next crop of young entertainers don't end up going into Hollywood. They end up streaming. They're high, right? They're Drew Ski. There's a bunch of comedians like myself, like, now we're going into movies, but like where basically the younger crop of entertainers that if this was 30 years ago, you don't think Kai or Drew Ski would be in every single movie. They would, they would be Eddie Murphy, I don't know. They would be Jim Carrey. I think back in the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The reason why I say I don't know, because none of those motherfuckers in Hollywood have ever shown us that they know real raw talent. No. Well, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying you really had to take your hand. You had to be the bird to take your hand off the wing. You had to be the bird that takes your wing off the asshole and go in these studios ass first. Ass first mouthful. Right. You know what I'm saying? Is it a coincidence that all of these guys that you named. Right. A lot of these Hollywood types have all of these rumors.

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you understand what I'm saying. Where do those rumors come from?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Huh. Were they naturally born that way, or did they become that way because of opportunity? My point is the Kai's, the Drew skis, the you's. I don't know if Hollywood ever sees y', all, bro. I'm being honest.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no. 100% Hollywood. Hollywood is just starting to comedy. Right. They're just starting to see comedians. They don't even know streaming exists. Like, the fact that this movie is happening with them is massive. But if. If Kevin Hart doesn't go, I want to do this movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's not happening. And he's a major movie star. Right. It's Kevin's ability to recognize what was actually happening. Where the youth is, where the kids are. Like, think about podcasting. Like, Kamala thought that it was in her best interest to not go on the biggest platforms on the planet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do think Kamala did a combination of both, but she did miss big platforms, like Rogan, like, flagrant. But I think that she did what you should do because we live in a world now where you just have to be in front of as many eyeballs as possible.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I was at. I did a upfront for Nielsen this week, and I think what Nielsen is doing is dope now, because all of this stuff is gonna account for ratings now. Like, it's not just people listening to radio. It's podcasts. It's all social media. Like, everything is combined now. I'm giving you the behind the scene. Yeah. The not educated, technical version of it. Right. But that's what you have to do. I think she did a good job of that. You should go on the View, but then you should go do all the smoke. Right. You should go on Stephen Colbert, but you should also go do flavoring.

[Andrew Schulz]

She did a bunch of podcasts. It was just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Trump didn't do that because he didn't have to. He's been campaigning for 10 years. I don't need to go on your mainstream platforms. I can go on all of these podcasts, and you got to talk about me anyway.

[Andrew Schulz]

But he did go on a bunch of them. He did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, he didn't do no main screen stuff outside of Fox. Other than that, it was strictly podcast. He didn't do any. He didn't do none of the late night shows, none of the daytime television, nothing.

[Chris Distefano]

But it's not like he went on Pod Save America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's true.

[Chris Distefano]

That would have been the. You know, that would have been great.

[Andrew Schulz]

He done ran circles around him, I guess.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I love the Pod Save America, but he didn't. Ran circles around him. Yeah, he just.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know. I guess what I'm saying is, like, I. Hollywood's late to recognize, like, what the youth was doing. But back in the day, there wasn't an opportunity to stream and do online. So all these young, talented people would gravitate towards TV and towards movies. So they would probably end up being there. And I think it's in Hollywood's best interest to really recognize what all the young folks are doing, because that's where the eyeballs are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, if you want people to go see your movies, if you want young people to see your movies, you have to put the young people that they're invested in those movies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But somebody like Kai is interesting though, right? Because even what Kai is doing is not TV or film. He's just introducing the world to him. And as we're looking at him, we're like, man, that guy got a lot of personality, man. He might be good in a movie, he might be good in the sitcom. His approach wouldn't be the same. If he had to come up 30 years ago and go out there and audition, we might not get that version of Kai. Same with you. We don't get the. We don't get raw Andrew Shoats. If Andrew gotta come out with slick back hair and a black leather jacket and I wanna audition as the Fonz, then I. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, we don't get you 100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So the era that we're in calls for authenticity. Authenticity, Right. Like, that's not what the era back 30, 40 years did. You had to be polished and clean. Like, that's not what the world wants no more. And that's what Democrats keep fucking. That's where Kamala had. Even now she writes this great book. And for her, to me, it's raw. Cause I'm like, this is. Yes, finally, you telling just a little bit of truth. Just enough truth to rattle everybody to make everybody take a wing and put it around their butthole. Right. Just in case you really try to go fuck us. Right. But then you do the interviews. And it's not that I know Rachel Maddow, you pressed a little bit. You're like, no, that's not what I meant. Like, no, no, stand on it. You was right when you said you couldn't have chosen Pete as a running mate.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Why did she kind of fold on that? That was weird.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think because Rachel Maddow is a part of the LGBTQ community and it just was a little bit of. And I don't know if Kamala was trying. Even when you read the book, what she's saying is true, but it's not her personal feeling. You understand what I'm saying? Like, if I say, hey, we can't choose this guy as a running mate, man, cuz he's a gay. He's a gay man. I'm already a black woman with a Jewish husband. That's tough enough. I'm just looking at it from a strategy perspective. I'm looking at it from strictly politics. Right. But people will say that means you're homophobic. No, it doesn't. This is business. This ain't got nothing to do with what I personally think. I'm telling you, America's not ready for this. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, Chris, do you?

[Chris Distefano]

No. And I think that's something Trump does well, is he does what he has to do, explains why he does it. Doesn't try to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or doesn't explain.

[Chris Distefano]

Or doesn't explain.

[Andrew Schulz]

Doesn't apologize.

[Chris Distefano]

Doesn't apologize. I mean, I would say I would.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have loved to hear Ta Nehisi and Ezra had that conversation. Cuz I know that they would agree with Kamala on that.

[Chris Distefano]

But just to circle back to the what's wrong with the Democrats convo, I don't think it's because they haven't acknowledged the original sin. I mean, you said they have to throw Biden under the bus. Biden's already under the bus. You'd have to get his body, pull it out of the bus, and then throw it in front of the bus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we got it. Got to be a public. Got to be public. No, I got to be public, Chris.

[Chris Distefano]

To me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Public.

[Chris Distefano]

Public to me. And we. This got brought up, I think Andrew said at the very beginning of the show. It's the fractured nature of the left right now. The left is eating itself a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They've always done that, though.

[Chris Distefano]

I know, but it's heightened right now. And it's identity politics.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like Gaza. It's identity politics. And it's the anger of losing.

[Chris Distefano]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

And feeling like the people in power are trying to strip you and your friends of your rights and your Dignity. And they're genuinely.

[Chris Distefano]

And they're not wrong, but they genuinely believe that.

[Andrew Schulz]

So I understand that heightened sense of defensiveness is not going to lead to a more accepting, welcoming coalition. The problem is you kind of need that. You need an accepting, welcome coalition. You got to bring back people that left you because they felt ostracized. You have to if you actually want to win. But I think a lot of these people don't want to win to what Charlamagne was saying. They just want to be right. They want to go and make a TikTok video pointing fingers at everybody that disagrees with it. They disagree with. So that they could get a bunch of comments, a bunch of likes, and it's like, all right, well then you're not a serious guy.

[Chris Distefano]

Well, that's always been the case. I mean, you had Abbi Hoffman and the far, far radical left similar to. I mean, I think what we're going through now, the closest analogy is the late 60s, early 70s in America. Those guys hated the mainstream Democratic Party. Right. But they had a limited platform in the sense that even though they made a lot of noise, it only traveled so far. Now someone can say, well, you've sold out to the corporate Democrats or the mainstream Democrats and you're abandoning. And it gets amplified that it seems like that person is representing a larger portion of the party than they probably do. But then it keeps building and building and building and people are going to have to figure out how to. You know, it's like if you're working on something creative, you have a scene you like. Sometimes you got to give up stuff you love, you know, to make the entire piece work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I love like President Biden. Yes, Democrats gotta give him up. Maybe Bill Clinton.

[Chris Distefano]

Well, I can only speak for myself. That was a fear based decision.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, you know, Republicans do that, Democrats don't do. And I saw this and I think it's genius. J.D. vance said, yeah, you know, the economy isn't where we need it to be. Yeah, inflation and all of that stuff is up, but it's the Democrats fault. Why didn't they ever do that when they got back in the White House? Why didn't they talk about all the stimulus checks that caused inflation? They did.

[Chris Distefano]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Democrats did not do that.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no. Biden did it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He did a test. Well, when J.D. vance did it, it resonated and it cut through. When Biden did it, Obama did it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Obama like he did it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just saying when they inherited the bad economy they got from Trump.

[Andrew Schulz]

But I hate the finger pointing. I don't like it when either side does it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it's politics, Jones. You have to do it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know, I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. It's not like you're on the football field lined up with the person, and you can just, you know, go head to head with them. This is how you take out your opponent. They do a better job of constantly making Democrats look like a problem right now. Government shutdown. Who do some people think is responsible for the government shutdown? Democrats. Why? Because Republicans got the bully pulpit and they're saying it, and we know that's not the case. They have all the power. They're in control of every single thing. Who's the Democrat with the loudest megaphone able to say that? Jasmine Crockett. And she. Not as loud as conservative media. So now what do you do? Yo, they just had a meeting two days ago. This is crazy to me. They had a meeting. Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump, with all the generals. A public meeting that we all watched, where they are sitting there trying to get these generals to pledge their loyalty to them. And nobody thinks that's strange?

[Chris Distefano]

One person does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We read enough books to know what that is. Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

Wait, wait, what do you mean? Like, they are loyal to him. He's the commander.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, no, no. They should be loyal to the Constitution. No, they should be loyal to the United States of America. No, no. You can't be loyal to a man when a man is telling you, I want you to go out there and wage war on your own citizen.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm sorry, Charlemagne, you're off on this. I mean, I disagree with waging war on your own citizens, but that's what he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what he's saying.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but. But he is the commander in chief. Like, he is in control of.

[Chris Distefano]

In a war against the foreign power.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, he is in control of the army. He is in control of the Navy. He control of the Air Force. That is his role. If we're talking about the role of the president here, I don't think that there's anybody that would refute that. That is his job, and that is part of his job, and that is his position.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you need people that are willing to push back. Cause what if. Yeah, yeah, what if we have an authoritarian regime in the White House that is saying, hey, I want y' all to start interfering when people are peacefully protesting, I want y' all to start interfering at the ballot box to make sure that these people can't Vote. I want you to start removing people that are my political opposition from office.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is at some point a general.

[Andrew Schulz]

Admiral gotta be like, whoa, those things are horrible. But the general admirals do not have the authority to reject the wishes of the president, if I'm not mistaken. No, I don't believe they're not true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I don't know.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, they're not an independent body because if they were, then you wouldn't be able to go to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Andrew Schulz]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, hold on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Congress can restrict what the president can do in terms.

[Chris Distefano]

But only Congress can declare war, I believe.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. And that's why we've had all these conflicts.

[Chris Distefano]

But shouldn't then by that stance, only Congress could tell the army to start enforcing against us going to war against him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Trump said if basically, if you don't want to do what we want you to do, then you gotta go. So when you're trying to build your own military that is loyal to you and not just. And not the constitution in the country, what are we building now? We Germany. Now we the Soviet Union under Stalin. Now we fucking Saddam Hussein in Iraq. What are we doing America?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, no, I hear that. And don't get me wrong, I definitely hear like the totalitarian.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree with Pete on the fat admirals in general. Admirals, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. I mean, we're not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I don't want no fat admirals in general. That's the one thing Pete Hextep said.

[Andrew Schulz]

And there's one standard. It's not a men's and women's standard. It's just one standard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't have the strongest military in the world and not look the part, bro. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, no, no.

[Chris Distefano]

Napoleon was a little chunky.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but he wasn't fighting.

[Chris Distefano]

These guys aren't fighting.

[Andrew Schulz]

You want them to. I guess.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, man. I just think that there's a lot of things that are going on in America that are not normal. And if you just read a little bit. I'm not the smartest person in the world. I'm not the highest graded weed in the dispens. Read a little bit. In light of history throughout the world, you can see how this can easily happen in America. And it's happening like nobody. They literally had a meeting and nobody. It's just like a. Oh, okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

What it's. You're allowed to meet with your generals. This is not like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, this was different, man. You had to go watch it. You got to go watch it and listen to what they're basically asking them to do like, why do you want to send the military into Portland?

[Andrew Schulz]

So here's the thing. Obviously they're doing this for like, political reasons.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why though? They're in power.

[Andrew Schulz]

The question that I have about this, and I mean this genuinely, if people feel unsafe in their cities and their local governments are not doing about anything about that, do you think that they are upset at Trump doing this or do you think that they're happy about it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It depends who you ask. Like, you know, there's people in D.C. that you can talk to and they're like, as a matter of fact, you even gotta talk to the people in dc. Go talk to some of the military personnel that's in dc. They'll tell you, I don't know what we're doing here. Yeah, forget what people are saying, go talk to them. I've spoken to some of them. They don't know what they're doing in dc. They're like, why are we guarding this restaurant downtown? You know what I'm saying? Why do we need to go into Portland?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I hear that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Mandani wins.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Woo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I think they're gonna be marching up and down the streets in New York City.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think the opposite. I think that if Mamdani wins, Trump is gonna hope that the city burns so that he can use it as.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I agree with you, but there's going to be some strategic chaos.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He already said, I'm cutting the federal budget in New York, which is horrible. They're going to put the military here. You wasn't here last week when the Secret Service was stopping everybody and making you get out your car and putting the gun, putting the dogs and. Oh. Cause you know where we're at at the radio station that's right there, where the UN meeting was at.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh. Cause the un.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that was crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that. It was. It was. I mean, it was the weirdest thing about that though. Secret Service, y' all never search us. You make us get out the car and you run the dogs and everything and you go into the hood and you go into trunk, but you don't search us, the people.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like that is weird.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought that was strange. I don't know if it was, you know, I mean, of course there was a couple that's like, oh, Charlamagne, what's up? So maybe it was me, I don't know, but I just thought it was weird that I don't even at least get a Pat down. You're not gonna let the dog sniff my butt. My balls. You know what I'm saying? I just thought that was a little. Just a little strange.

[Andrew Schulz]

That is a little weird.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just a little strange. Cause if I went through the Secret Service checkpoint a couple of times, I'm like, oh, they just searching the car. So I just keep whatever I got.

[Andrew Schulz]

On it on me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I would be thinking If I was 100% a criminal, you know? But I don't know, man. I just think it's some strange times, bro. I don't know. Let's pay some bills. Chris. Come back. Let's talk about some bad bunny at the super bowl. And yeah, a couple other things. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast. Smart move. Being financially savvy. Smart move. Another smart move. Having State Farm help you create a competitive price when you choose to bundle home and auto bundling. Just another way to save with a personal price plan like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts, and savings and eligibility vary by state. Man Salute to our good people at Chime. Make Chime big man. Shout out to Chime, man. Chime is always holding us down. Man. Chime, we appreciate you when y' all say that y' all are banking done right. I agree. Okay, you want to open a checking account with no monthly fees and no maintenance fees. You want to get paid up to two days early. When you set up direct deposit, you want to have that qualifying direct deposit. With qualifying direct deposits, you're eligible for free overdraft up to $200 on debit card purchases and cash withdrawals. To date, Chime has spotted members over $30 billion. Okay, open a checking account with no monthly fees and no maintenance fees, not to mention access to over 47,000 fee free ATMs. That's more than the top three national banks combined. Okay, listen, a lot of people use Chime, man. You know what I mean? And you should, too. If I had Chime and my younger self, I would have benefited from this. Okay, Chime can help you get paid up to two days early with direct deposit. Now, y' all know y' all be needing your money two days early. You know how it feels to sit around and wait until Friday to have to pay your bills. Like today is the first. We're actually taping this podcast on October 1st on Wednesday. Rent is due today. Some people can't wait till Friday. They need their money now. You can have it if you get Chime Man. Okay, Work on your financial goals through Chime today. Open an account in two [e-mail] idiots. That's chime.com idiots. Chime feels like progress. Chime is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services and debit card provided by the Bancorp Bank NA or Stride Bank NA members. Fdic. Spot me. Eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Timing depends on submission of pay file fees. Apply it out of network ATMs. Bank ranking and number of ATMs. According to US News and World Report, 2023 time checking account required. We got some church announcements. Show us what we got.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sorry, hold on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you eating?

[Andrew Schulz]

Go ahead.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, you ain't ate since Australia.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm starving. I'm all jet lag. Everything's all backwards. Church announcements. Oh, I'm going to be in Dubai October 7. After that, going to the Riyadh Comedy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Festival, which is getting mad controversy.

[Andrew Schulz]

A lot of controversy. I just want to say I want to go there before the festival.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

October 11th, 5th annual Mental Wealth Expo is happening in Newark, New Jersey at the Joel and Diane Bloom Event Center. Homie, make sure I got that right. Joelle and Diane Bloom. Yes. Wellness and Events center in Newark, New Jersey. Some of the best mental health professionals in the country will be there. Debbie Brown, Dr. Rita Walker Elliot, Connie, Jason Wilson, Deontay Wilder is going to be there. Queen of fool is going to be there. And it's a free event from 11am to 4pm Go to mentalwealthexpo.com to register to get in. You don't have to register to get in. You know what I mean? You could just pull up. But you know, we recommend that you register because it's a free event. So, you know, a lot of people like to come to the Mental Health Expo. So we'll see you October 11th. Now, salute to Jake Paul too. Man, I don't think Jake Paul gets.

[Andrew Schulz]

Enough credit for knowing how to finesse a bag.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, but those MVP fights are really good. I went to Serrano and Taylor at the Garden.

[Andrew Schulz]

Phenomenal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was a very. It was just a very well put together event. That shit was dope. It was exciting. Like, I'm a guy that goes to a lot of boxing matches. We go to boxing matches at the Garden before. Outside of the fights, there's nothing really entertaining about the environment and the atmosphere. He creates an environment and an atmosphere that just feels electric soon as you walk in.

[Andrew Schulz]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. I mean, come on, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, Jake doesn't get enough credit, bro. Jake does not get enough credit, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Schultz, let's be honest. Jake Paul did a card of all women boxing, and it was exciting.

[Andrew Schulz]

Where are all these WOKE outlets that are. Why aren't they saying, look at this guy who is championing women in a sport? That's true. For the most part, nobody really gave a fuck about what's going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Getting them their biggest paydays.

[Andrew Schulz]

Biggest paydays.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Getting them their biggest audiences, putting them on Netflix. Netflix would not be doing shit like that if it wasn't for Jake Paul.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, where is his credit? Listen, we only give credit to certain people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, I meant to salute him after I came back from the fight, but I just was reminded of it when I saw the most valuable promotions. He does a phenomenal job with mvp, bro. You got to give Jake a lot of credit. I hope that Jake continues to be able to put together these type of stellar fights. And the thing I liked about the women card, he didn't have to be involved in it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, he wasn't fighting on it at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, what I would love to see him do, and I'm pretty sure it might be like this on the Tank card. Just make sure those undercard fights are great.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, make him entertain. This is what boxing always fucks up. And it's like, because you got to pay the main event so much, there's no money for anybody else, but, like, you know, throw a few dollars at the next, like, three fights so that we have something really engaging to watch for, you know, two hours, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Turkey. If Turkey and Jake Paul ever come together to do some type of boxing event. Cause that's gonna be the next thing, right? The next thing isn't gonna be just the Jake Paul. Tank is the main event. It's gonna be the Jake Paul and Tank. But then it might be, you know, Canelo and Benavidez, like, real fight. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying that Tank and Jake Paul's not a real fight, but, like, actual boxers versus boxers. Like, it's going to be a thing where it's going to be like a combination of everything. Because, you know, I don't think, like, Jake Paul would have to, like, really go on a real run of knocking out a bunch of different boxes that ever really get taken serious as a boxer.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think he's serious now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think he's more. I think he's still more of a spectacle.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, it is spectacle, without a doubt. But boxing at its Highest has always been spectacle. Right. It's like one of the biggest fights ever is Floyd versus Conor McGregor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So it's like. But. But I think he's taken serious in that you can't just be someone who's never like you have. Even boxers, like, because of the weight advantage. I don't love the tank fight because of the weight advantage personally, and also the big gloves. So I think they were wearing 12 ounce gloves. I think maybe they brought it back down to 10. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But like, Jake, Paul Canelo would have been good. That to me, to me it's like, okay, Jake, now you really.

[Andrew Schulz]

And also Canelo just lost yourself. So now we believe that it might be possible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I. No, I mean, listen, it's interesting. I just wanted to salute to Jake. Salute to mvp. Let's pay some. Oh, yo, Mayor Adams. You know, Mayor Adams did to us what he did to y' all on flagrant.

[Andrew Schulz]

What'd he do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Remember when he came on flagrant, he.

[Andrew Schulz]

Said, I'm definitely running as a Democrat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He told y', all, I'm definitely running as a Democrat. I'm not gonna be independent. But next day he became independent. He did the exact same thing to us. Show came to Breakfast Club on a Thursday. The first question out the gate, everybody says, you dropping out the race. Mayor Adams, what's up? I asked him that question about five or six different ways.

[Andrew Schulz]

What did he say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was like, my answer's gonna be the same every time. We're staying in this race, blah, blah, blah. Three days later, on a Sunday, he drops out the goddamn race. You know the question everybody keeps asking, are you dropping out of the Merrill race? And you know what?

[Chris Distefano]

I answered that 101 times.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said, no, I'm not. They said, eric, they keep telling me you're dropping out. Our goal is to finish this race. You know, over the past weekend, you didn't attend any public events while a lot of your the rivals were out campaigning. And people use that to fuel more speculation that you're preparing to drop out. So how do you respond to that sick thing about this Charlemagne?

[Andrew Schulz]

No matter what I said, they did it anyway.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So listen, you're polling in fourth place right now.

[Chris Distefano]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What makes you think you can still win?

[Andrew Schulz]

What I must do in these campaigns.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is I need my money. How do you donate to your campaign? Eric Adams, 2025. Three days later, despite all we've achieved, I cannot continue my re election campaign.

[Andrew Schulz]

What'd they promise him?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Started to raise.

[Chris Distefano]

Hosting the comedy festival.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No for real. This will be Ambassador, Saudi Arabia. He might be the promoter on this comedy festival.

[Chris Distefano]

He's going to have a hookah lounge over there.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's racist, yo. That's racist.

[Chris Distefano]

It is, actually.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's racist, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stillwell said. I saw Stillwell on the news yesterday. Stillwell said the next billionaire that calls him, he's recording the call.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who's Stillwell?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Curtis Stillwell, the guy. He's the guardian angel, right?

[Chris Distefano]

Oh, Silwell.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Silwell. What? I said Silwa rya. Silwell. What's his name? Curtis. Curtis Sliwell said the next billionaire that calls him and offers him millions to drop out, he's recording the call. Yeah, he said they're offering him millions.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is the thing you can't do. He's a principal guy like this. This is a different dude. So, like, you're better off not trying to bribe him, you know? You're better off not trying to bribe. I don't think Cuomo can do it, man. I don't think Cuomo can do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't think he beat Mondani?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, because he's not offering anything.

[Chris Distefano]

Like, stability would be the argument.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but like, to whom? Like, Chris, I don't know if you rent in the city. Do you rent in the city?

[Chris Distefano]

I do.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay. Do you have rent control?

[Chris Distefano]

No, it's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Madani can't freeze the rent.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, I think he can do a freeze. I don't think that he can do it like a temporary freeze, but, like, it doesn't matter the cost of living. And I'm someone who has money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris Distefano]

It's outrageous.

[Andrew Schulz]

The cost of living in this city is fucking unbelievable.

[Chris Distefano]

I think about it every day. Trust me, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

I. I'm literally. And I was talking to a friend of mine, but. Because, like, if you have, like, a family, like, you need, like, three bedrooms.

[Chris Distefano]

Or something, you can't go anywhere. You can't move, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's.

[Chris Distefano]

There's no possibilities for anything. It's just.

[Andrew Schulz]

Dude, stuck. And here's the thing, especially if it's like. If we're talking about three or four bedrooms or something like that. Right?

[Chris Distefano]

Forget about it.

[Andrew Schulz]

During COVID anybody who had money bought a place because the loans were at 2%, the mortgage rates, Right? So you're getting a place for free, right? Okay. You're basically getting a place for free.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I fucked up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, we all fucked up, right? Because we didn't know what the hell was happening in the world. So you get this 2% loan. So all these people got these 2% loans and they're doing interest only. So they're probably like seven years or ten year interest only loans, right? So they're just sitting on all these properties. And that's one reason why there's no liquidity in the market, is because people are sitting on these properties. That's why the rental market is so crazy, is because they have a loan that is free basically for them to live. But come 20, 27 or 28, all these mortgages are going to go from 2% to fucking 6% and you're to see somebody's carry go from $100,000 because.

[Chris Distefano]

They were all adjustable. They had arms.

[Andrew Schulz]

They have, they have, they have iOS, right? They have insurance only. Right? Like so it's not like a 30 year arm. What they do is they just pay the right. Yeah, interest, interest.

[Chris Distefano]

I mean that, that was the, the thing in New York was always you buy a studio and then you start to outgrow it and the value goes up, let's say 5%, hypothetically. Then you buy the one bedroom with the difference that you've made. And then you just keep going up.

[Andrew Schulz]

The ladder and there's a tax loop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Over that are just going to Jersey to buy a fucking house, bro.

[Chris Distefano]

Can't go to Jersey right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, you should have went years ago. Y' all was here.

[Chris Distefano]

Real estate is outrageous everywhere. There's nowhere in the country right now, but New York is like ground zero for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I'm with you. It's funny when people tell you how much your house is worth now because it's just like, who can buy it?

[Andrew Schulz]

Who can buy it?

[Chris Distefano]

Okay, but on the flip, who can buy it? They've built.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw.

[Chris Distefano]

I forget how many years it was, let's say two years. They've built 12,000 new units in Brooklyn alone. Right? You would think at a certain point there would be so much new supply that the prices would come down. They're still going up. So who's buying these things?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Rich people. In hopes. Rich people are buying them in bulk in hopes that people come and buy them and rent them out. Because there's no way that regular everyday people that are making working class wages are buying them fucking apartments in Brooklyn. There's no way, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know where people live. I don't know how they live. I don't know who can afford it. Like how many people can afford it. That's. We have what, 8 million people in this city? How is everybody a millionaire?

[Chris Distefano]

Like, I think a lot of it's coming internationally.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Saudi. We need these festivals. We need them Saudi Arabia. Let's pay some bills, man, and then come back and wrap this thing up with some asking idiots and a couple other news stories. And also, man, we gotta say thank you to ZipRecruiter. ZipRecruiter. We really appreciate you sponsoring this week's episode of the Brilliant It Is podcast, man. You know, we all have businesses, you know, we're all entrepreneurs here with employees and you know hiring can be difficult. But the future of hiring looks much brighter because ZipRecruiter's latest tools and features help speed up finding the right people for your roles. Okay, so you save valuable time and now you can try ZipRecruiter for free at ZipRecruiter.com idiots With ZipRecruiter's new advances, you can easily find and connect with qualified candidates in minutes. Over 320,000 new resumes are added to ZipRecruiter monthly, which means you can reach more potential hires and fill roles Sooner. No wonder ZipRecruiter is the number one rated hiring site based on [e-mail] Idiots okay, use ZipRecruiter and save time hiring 4 out of 5 employers who post on ZipRecruiter to get a quality candidate within the first day. And if you go to ziprecruiter.com idiots right now, you can try it for free. Again, that's ZipRecruiter.com idiots. ZipRecruiter the smartest way to hire the.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see that the Kardashians are suing Ray J for defamation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Whoa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. The Kardashians are suing Ray J for defamation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can't bite the hand that feeds you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, the reason I brought it up is because, you know, last week Ray J said that he was working with. Let me read the headline.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kim Kardashian and Kris Jenner sued Ray J for defamation. Accused him of reckless disregard for the truth. Oh, here. Yeah. Yes. Alex Spiro, the attorney for Kardashian and Jenna tell people in the statement that Ray J's allegations Left them no choice but to file a lawsuit. And the allegation was Ray J regarding claims he made about them allegedly being under investigation for racketeering. Now, let me tell you the difference between radio, television, podcasting, streaming, and everything else. Ray J said. This I believe on. I think he alluded to it on the TMZ, at TMZ's Tubi documentary, United States vs Sean Combs. And go back, go back to that, Chris. You had the line right there. He said, if you told me the Kardashians was being charged with racketeering, I might believe it. That's what he said. And then I think there was another scream that came out lately where he said he was working with the FBI on a RICO against the Kardashians. Listen, I don't know what's true and what's not true. I just know that when you say things, you gotta prove it. You can't just be talking nowadays. And I don't know why people don't realize that yet. That is why I love growing up in the radio world, because of FCC rules and regulations. I know that I can't just be saying things. We reported that story last week and got a legal letter.

[Andrew Schulz]

Whoa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

From Alex Pero. All we do is report what Ray J. Was alleging. No sides, taking, no nothing. We just reported it. Right. I actually said during the report, yo, we gotta stop throwing the word RICO around so loosely. Everything can't be labeled a rico. Cause that's what they do nowadays. Everything. Oh, that's a rico. That's a rico. Everything can't be a rico. And we got a legal letter basically saying, like, this isn't true. And we're the Breakfast Club. We're not supposed to amplify that. So you can be a YouTuber, a podcaster, and say these things, and you may get away with it for a while until somebody gets on your motherfucking bumper or you get on the person's radar and they be like, oh, oh, yeah, let's sue them. See what's happening with Candace Owens.

[Andrew Schulz]

What's happening?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, she got sued by the people in France, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

Are they following through with that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hell yeah, they following through with that, right? And you've heard stories of podcasters. Cardi B got awarded four a YouTuber, $4 million, you know, cause of defamation. So my point is, man, this is the difference between being a radio personality and just one of these people with talking on the Internet, a platform talking on the Internet, or talking on the podcast who don't understand the rules and Regulations, by the way. This shit can still happen to us, you know what I mean? But it probably is more than likely to happen to us because of the magnitude of the show. But nowadays, because you got people who are like a Ray J, who's a celebrity, who, when they say something, that shit really, really travels, you gonna end up in situations like this. And so now you gotta fight the Kardashians in the defamation lawsuit. Now you gotta hire an attorney, you know what I'm saying? And maybe he does have some proof. Of what? He's a legend. I don't know. I'm just simply saying if you're going to make a. I guess, let me say what I'm saying. If you're a Ray J and you're going to make an allegation like that, you got to come with it. Can't flirt with it. This ain't no jab, jab, jab, jab. You have to prove it. You got to go, you got to come like, hey, I'm doing X, Y and Z. And these are the reasons why you can't even wait on it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because they didn't wait. They let Ray J say what he said and he like, yo, we not waiting on nothing, Bomber.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bomb them.

[Andrew Schulz]

Maybe they're doing that to send a message too, like to anybody else who tries.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, you. I mean, sometimes you gotta do that if people are making, you know, those kind of allegations. Here's the thing. Some people got time and some people got a whole lot of money to spend.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, most of the time it just comes down to time. It's like, yo, do you really wanna sue this person for some shit that's not impacting you in no way, shape or form? But what's happening now is that a lot of these things are impacting folks. Like you see people getting. There's actual real world consequences for these rumors that people are just throwing out there because to the point we were making earlier about things being so fragmented, folks just never know. You hear something online, you don't know if it's real or not. Well, damn. I heard this online about said individual. I don't know if it's true or not. Maybe we should just stay away or maybe just. Just wait and see what that is. Right. You understand what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. So I get why they would do it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Interesting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get why they would do it. Because you could say anything nowadays. Let's do some asking, idiots.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let's do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can get the float. I'M really happy to see you, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Man, I'm happy to see you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not even joking, bro. I really, really missed you.

[Andrew Schulz]

I missed you, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not even joking.

[Andrew Schulz]

Tell me. This is great to hear. I love to hear this, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was so much good going on. Oh, my God, Dan. It's cool to talk about it with other people, but it's different with us.

[Andrew Schulz]

And it was a lot of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A lot of a lot.

[Andrew Schulz]

I feel like we didn't even scratch the surface. Like, I feel like there's still a lot that happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it is. It is. But, I mean, we here.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah. We'll get it back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jojo Biscara says, how does a blind person know when to stop wiping after taking the. Yo, I thought this fantastic question.

[Andrew Schulz]

I thought this about. Because it happened once. Like, I. I walked. I was. I was at a comedy show, and I walked into the bathroom. It was one of those lights that goes off with motion.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I walked in, and the second I walked in, the light came on. And I just heard someone from the stall go, thank God. Cause they must have been in there shitting and then have no clue. Had no clue when they were done wiping, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is the worst feeling in the world. We got one of them shit at iheart, bro. I ain't gonna say what floor it's on. I be thinking that the woman at the desk be fucking with me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause this shit just started happening. I've been working there for 15 years, and now all of a sudden that shit cuts off. And when you on the toilet, you be doing shit like. Cause you don't want to stand up. I did a Bobby Smurda one time through my hat. You know what I'm saying? I turned the fucking lights on, man. Like, yo, that shit is impossible to do, bro. How does a blind person know when to stop wiping after taking a shit?

[Andrew Schulz]

I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, Jojo. That is one of the things that we never talk about with blind people. That is probably excruciating for them, yo.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Cause they gotta go extra just to make sure. So they're probably bloody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I need one of our blind brain idiot listeners to explain that to me. Cause I really don't know. And that motion light in the bathroom is what really makes me not. I don't know what y' all do. Yo.

[Andrew Schulz]

He said, thank God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man. When you in a public restroom, you gotta really watch what you say. Yo, I walked into the movie theater bathroom at the AMC to go take a piss and there was a guy in there taking a shit. And when I walked in to pee, I wasn't talking to nothing. I just walked in and I'm peeing, and all of a sudden I just hear the dude on the toilet go, george.

[Andrew Schulz]

You recognize that stream, George?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I'm just sitting there like, what a strange thing to say while you shitting. And I didn't answer him. I was like, I refuse to answer. I refuse this to be like, it's not, George.

[Andrew Schulz]

I didn't want to be like, nah, nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jesus Christ. Geomad X says, is comedy something that can be taught and learned or you have to be born with it? Ooh.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think joke writing you can. Can learn and, like. But I think, like, just being naturally funny is something that you have. It's not you're born with, but, like, you're. You just learn through life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is natural funny comedy, though?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, it's not stand up, but it is. Like, if you're naturally funny, you can. You can. You can do. Stand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can turn it in. The comment.

[Andrew Schulz]

You can turn it in. Yeah, but there are people who are not naturally funny that can learn how to, like, write jokes. There's like a math equation with jokes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like comedy is a business. Ooh, yeah. Comedy is a business and it's a skill set. So it's kind of like being a street fighter if you're naturally funny, but then turning that street fighting into actual boxing or mma.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great.

[Chris Distefano]

How about this? Because I was thinking about this myself the other day. Is being funny a sign of intelligence?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hell, yeah. Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

I think with some people. Hell, yeah, with some people. I think there's some people that are dumb, and that's what makes them funny.

[Chris Distefano]

I think you can be funny if you're truly dumb.

[Andrew Schulz]

It depends, because some people aren't trying to be funny, but they're funny. They're just dumb.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The most. A lot of the comedians that I really enjoy are some of the most intellectual.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. Comedians. They tend to be, I think, Chris.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Rock, George Carlin Scholz, Dave Chappelle. Like, these guys are. When you even just sit in conversation. Marlon Wayne, just sit down and have a conversation with Marlon Wayans or Kevin Hart. That's why they give the best interviews.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, they're just very smart. Like, they're just. They are actually smart. And I think that they have a level of intelligence that a lot of politicians wish to have. Because it is an intelligence that taps into society.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a societal intelligence. Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Social and emotional, intellectual.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To observe. To observe people. To know what people are feeling, to know what people are going through. Like, that's different to me. So. Yeah. KingD71. Ooh. Did y' all like Marvel Zombies? I thought it was dope. It was incredible.

[Andrew Schulz]

I didn't watch it. What is Marvel Zombies? What is that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a new cartoon on. It's on Disney. It's only four episodes. Oh, I thought it was incredible, Especially that last episode. Fucking. Who is that bloody ending? Everybody. I mean, not everybody, but, like, a lot of different superheroes. It's just like. It's like the zombie apocalypse and some of the superheroes turn into zombies. Oh, it's fan fucking tastic.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's one of them things like get high. Like, I watched it. I was on an edible Friday night, and that shit was overstimulating me. It was just like, oh, shit. Like. Cause the graphics and the way it's animated. But then the storyline, like, that shit was. Yes, I enjoyed Marvel Zombies a whole lot. King D71. I don't know what happened at the end, though. I would like to know what happened at the end. Like, I want to know if I don't want to give it away, but you know what I'm talking about with Kamala. I want to know what happened. Was that the real world or was that all an illusion? I don't know. I don't know. Taps says, who would you rather have for President now, 2016? Bernie or Jon Stewart? Whoa. Do you mean run for President?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, half.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who would we rather have right now?

[Andrew Schulz]

Jon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm going Jon, too.

[Chris Distefano]

Bernie.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. This is no, like, insult. I love John Stewart, but I. Yeah, I think Jon. I think Jon because I think John. Because I think John might be a little bit more centrist than Bernie in terms of, like, Bernie. Bernie. I love Bernie for this reason, but he is kind of radical on certain things.

[Chris Distefano]

But he's also a bit of a known quantity. Where my only concern with Jon Stewart is how much are we projecting onto him that we would want?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think.

[Chris Distefano]

I think John Stewart would look at this and probably say 2016. Bernie. Yeah, I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He would definitely call for Bernie. But, you know, sometimes you look at people and you see something in them that they may not see in themselves. I don't care what. Nobody said. Jon Stewart should be in somebody's office. Jon Stewart should be governor of New Jersey or something. Fucking run for prep. Something. Jon Stewart is. Because his ideas are so big, you know, the way he's able to communicate with people the way he's able to build bridges. We've seen him actually get legislation passed with his words, you know what I'm saying? Actually go out there and put pressure on them to do the right thing, to pass this legislation for the firefighters of 911 with his words. Listen, I like Bernie, too. You know what, though? I would probably pick Bernie. This question is kind of confusing because you're saying, who would you rather have for president right now? If I wanted for president right now, it would be 2016. Bernie. If you ask me, who would I want to compete to win in 2028? Granted, we have a free and fair election. It would be Jon Stewart, you know, so this question is a little tricky. Let's do two more, man. What else we got? Charlie Moxiano. How long before they have an AI President?

[Andrew Schulz]

They had one, the last administration. Right. I mean.

[Chris Distefano]

Maybe if he was AI, wouldn't they have had him talk a little cleaner?

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a good point.

[Chris Distefano]

Sped him up a little bit.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't think we'll ever have an AI present, but I think AI will play a massive role in, like, decision making. So it might not be like, the president, but if it's curating the ideas of the president, is it not the president?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think we'll have an AI human hybrid president at some point in life, you know, because that's right around the corner. Whether y' all realize. I keep telling y'. All. Read this book, man. Techno Feudalism. How Techno Feudalism.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah. Watch it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it's a book.

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, sorry. Yeah. You've read it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah. I think that, you know, a lot of this stuff is, you know, it's more in the near future than it is, you know, far away. Like, you know, there's gonna be the neuralinks in people's brains. Like, you know, it's gonna be the people who are, like, even now, they got the glasses right now that you can put on and freaking. And me and you could be debating, and I could just be rolling off facts in a teleprompter in my glasses, right? Like, it's like a lot of this stuff is right there. And Duvall asked this question a while ago, and it's true. Like, would you get it to compete? Cause if you gotta go out here with all of these fucking comics that got neuralink and all of this shit like that, and, like, what do you do? What do you do as an author, Chris, when these motherfuckers is out here with the neuralink Shit in their mind and they writing.

[Chris Distefano]

Well, it comes back to the comedy question, right? Can AI duplicate comedy?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, not yet. It can't write jokes, but eventually we'll be able to.

[Chris Distefano]

The kind of like Catskill 2 Liner Math Equation types you're talking about.

[Andrew Schulz]

We'll be able to do those.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's ask Chat. Give me a joke. Give me something. Give me a premise. Give me a premise.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let's ask Chad, GPT, Ask Chat, gbt, to write a joke about AI taking over the world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, let's see. Write a joke about AI taking over the world and having access to male booty holes everywhere. Hold on, let's give it a little rap, see what it says. Okay. Jesus Christ. This should say. Okay, here's one. In that wild Charlemagne style lane.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that was you. Oh, yeah. You can ask him to write the joke in different ways.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All I said was write a joke about AI taking over the world and having access to male booty holes everywhere.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but it knows you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody's scared about AI taking over the world, man. Y' all worried about the wrong thing. Forget robots stealing your job. Wait till ChatGPT gets Wi Fi access to your booty hole history. Alexa already listening to your conversations. Next thing you know, Siri gonna be like. Based on your last three searches, you might wanna scratch first.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, that's pretty good. That's. That's. That's got Donkey the day ran all over.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My God. What? Then it says, want me to punch it up into a full donkey of the day style bit? Yeah, with a moral at the end.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is your first time using ChatGPT?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, but God.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think his nose is me?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I gotta erase my search history, then I be asking this shit some wild shit. What the fuck? I be asking ChatGPT some wild shit, bro. God damn. Let me tell Chat this, not me. Hey, I just want you to know.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is not Charlamagne to God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not Scott Charlamagne the God. Let's see what it says. Got you. Oh, shit. Got you. Appreciate you saying that. I know you're you and I'll keep it straight with no mix ups. Want me to run back another version of that AI takeover joke? Just regular standup style without the Charlamagne spin.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Oh, yes, Charlamagne. Using ChatGPT for the first time is amazing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, please. Cool. Here's clean stand up style take. People keep saying AI is going to take over the world. Honestly, I'm not scared of robots controlling the nukes. I'm scared of them controlling the WI fi. Imagine an AI with access to everybody's search history and personal booty hole data. That's not world domination. That's just world humiliation. We won't be fighting Skynet. We'll be fighting Shame. Net.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. It's not there yet.

[Chris Distefano]

It's not as far away as I'd hoped.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah, no, it will be there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is opener at Caroline's. I've seen those, by the way. Those are my favorites, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Those are ones that don't. Those are the ones that don't hit. And I'm just dying, laughing, and everybody's like, what the fuck does he think is so funny? There's nothing like watching a comedian tell a joke that lands, doesn't hit, and they just gotta scramble for what's next. Oh, especially when they don't have no improv skills.

[Andrew Schulz]

Every time I see someone bomb, I think about you and the joy that you'd be getting if you were watching it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One more, Chris. Ooh, this is a good one. We can end with this one. Oh, this? We've been talking about this all pod. Kind of. They asked me what. Scroll back up, Chris. What story do you hate that you two couldn't talk about together while Andrew was in Australia? I mean, it was a bunch of them. Fucking shit. The President called me out. Fucking Charlie Kirk shit. It was a bunch of shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

The President calling you out was crazy. I really wish I was here for that Dame week, man. That week just seemed so fun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was. It was. I mean, it was. It was fun. It was fun. It was fun. You know what I mean? It's just everything. And I'm not saying everything after the fact is not fun. It's just not serious.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? And it shouldn't be taken that serious. But it's just like, as serious as he's acting like it is, it's really not that serious, like, and, you know, just to watch everybody. Damon Dash is suing the Breakfast Club. No, he's not. No lawsuit has been presented. I'm waiting on the chat GPT signed by him to come through. I haven't seen it yet, guys. All right, I don't know what to tell you. All right, scroll this way. I want to do this one. This one right here, the nostalgia one. I like the nostalgia one because this is interesting. What happens when nostalgia doesn't work anymore.

[Chris Distefano]

We're getting close.

[Andrew Schulz]

I hope that doesn't happen until after this Street Fighter movie comes out, because.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You need nostalgia to sell the movie.

[Andrew Schulz]

We Need a little nostalgia.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah. What do you mean when you say it's getting close, Chris?

[Chris Distefano]

Because I think this is like the first generation that isn't fully creating their own material that then they'll be able to look back on in 20 years. 20 years is generally the cycle for nostalgia, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris Distefano]

It's kind of like sampling, right? Like when hip hop. I think I've said this before in the show, but when hip hop started, it was great. They were sampling 50 years worth of material. Then at a certain point you run out of samples.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Chris Distefano]

But you haven't also been learning how to play the guitar and the bass and drum and making your own music. And I think this generation is kind of in a pattern of reacting to things instead of creating things at the same kind of cadence in the past. What's the nostalgia gonna be in 20 years for this moment?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I think Chris is right. I would say that. I don't think there's a time where nostalgia. There's never gonna be a time when nostalgia won't work.

[Chris Distefano]

I guess Kai Sinat would be nostalgia in 20 years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. But when I say there's never gonna be a time where nostalgia doesn't work, I think that right now you have people who don't have a respect for history. You know, I don't know why. When I was growing up, it felt like everything there was a historical context to it. Everything. I don't know. I don't know why. It just seems like that growing up, I was thinking about this the other day. Everything had a historical context to it. There was nothing I was learning, there was nothing I wasn't reading that didn't have a historical context, even. So much so that you'd be reading certain things, they'd reference something from history, then you would go read about said history. That's why I used to love. I mean, I still love the Ryan Holiday books, the Robert Greenes, because they would give us these lessons where they would always be rooted in historical context. And for the moment that we're in right now, there is a lot of historical context to things. Like, Chris, put me on the thing you were saying about 1960, about the shift in technology. I'm like, oh, that is true. Right? This can't be something new that we're experiencing. But I feel like we do live in an era that doesn't have any real respect for history, or they're not looking to history for things.

[Chris Distefano]

I see that in my kids, and I push it. I push the history, and they don't Want it.

[Andrew Schulz]

They're not biting.

[Chris Distefano]

They live on the surface for the most part. Because, I mean, I think we talked about this when you were gone, Andrew. I got a lot of inspiration from boredom, from not having something right in front of me, from just sitting there and just, like, thinking about stuff and thinking about stuff and starting off one place and ending somewhere else. These kids aren't bored.

[Andrew Schulz]

Never.

[Chris Distefano]

They're on their phone, just kind of like, taking surface material, surface material, surface material. And, you know, history is a deep dive. No matter where you're going in history. It's about, you know, maybe they'll go to a Wikipedia page, see the surface, and then back up to social media.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Chris Distefano]

And they're not sticking. And I'm pushing it, I'm promoting it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And also, people don't remember what happened yesterday. Like, everybody is such a prisoner at a moment. Like, there's things that I'll see happening. And I'm like, well, that's not what he said last week. Or that's not what that person did a year ago. Like, I can remember things. And it's like, when you pull these things back from the past and then show them. Like, no, this person has a pattern. Like, look at this. And they like, oh, my God. I'm like, but that just happened. How do y' all forget that? Just that quick? So five years ago. Oh, forget about it. Ten years ago, Please, now. Right. That's what I'm saying.

[Chris Distefano]

I got a phone call walking over here today. My daughter called me up from college, and she's like, I want to ask you about the government shutdown. And then, like, the five seconds she said that, I got so excited. I'm like, oh, she's calling me because she's curious about politics and what it means. And I was going to go into a whole thing. And then she's like, because I'm. I'm flying to see my boyfriend this weekend, and I'm worried if the airport's not gonna work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. No, no, no. Yo, we forgot that there was a government shutdown in Trump's first term.

[Chris Distefano]

Sure. I mean, they do happen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

35 days. They do happen.

[Chris Distefano]

To be fair.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. But the fact that everybody, because I'm reading them, like, they said, this hasn't happened in 15 years. I'm like, didn't this happen in Trump's first term?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, it did happen. Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe I'm lying.

[Chris Distefano]

They happen from time to time. I mean, knock on wood. They always get resolved.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And, well, they say this is the first one in 15 years, but I'm like, didn't it happen in Trump's first term? Well, let me look. Guess what I'm about to ask.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When was the last time the government shut down? When was the last time the government.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

December 20th, I should say October 1st, 2025. Prior to that, the last shutdown was from December 22nd, 2018 to January 25th, 2019. 35 days under the Trump administration. So where did that 15 year number come from?

[Chris Distefano]

Well, this is. I just criticized people for going on Wikipedia, but here we are, 2013 government shutdown.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But we just. But I'm saying. I don't know, man, but that's what I mean. I read that the Last one happened 15 years ago, but this shit happened December 22, 2018.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nothing's true. Nothing's false, dude. There is no truth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, you can get the truth here, man. Happy to have you back.

[Andrew Schulz]

Happy to be back, brother. Love you, dogs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This has been great to see you, man. As always. If you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know, you're right too. It's the Brand Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening.

[Andrew Schulz]

Peace. On October 17th, I'm an angel.

[Chris Distefano]

See the wings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't miss the new comedy Good Fortune.

[Andrew Schulz]

Starring Seth Rogen, Aziz Ansari and Keanu Reeves.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Critics rave.

[Chris Distefano]

It's Evan sent.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let me have a budget. Guardian angel, kinda. You were very unhelpful.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good Fortune, directed by Aziz Ansari, Reddit Rudd.