Bye Bye Conspiracy

Summary

The Brilliant Idiots – "Bye Bye Conspiracy" (Feb 20, 2026)

Episode Overview

In "Bye Bye Conspiracy," Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schultz dive into the current cultural moment where past "conspiracy theories" are bleeding into mainstream conversation. The episode oscillates between hilariously juvenile banter, deep skepticism toward the world’s power structures, serious talk about systemic cover-ups, and wild speculation about pop culture, aliens, and the ever-resilient Epstein discourse. Throughout, Charlamagne and Schultz bounce between comedy and pointed critique—living up to their Brilliant Idiots name.

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Main Topics & Key Discussions

1. The Importance of Immaturity and Levity

[07:22-08:58]

• The hosts reflect on why they continue being immature adults, especially around their children, suggesting humor is critical for mental health.
• Quote [08:10] “Being immature is good for my mental health.” – Charlamagne
• They discuss how forced seriousness feels unnatural and stifles real conversation.

2. Epstein Files & The Untouchable Elite

[09:09-16:53]

• Open skepticism about whether even financial crimes will ever bring Epstein’s cohort to justice, with the ultimate conclusion that laws don’t apply to the ultra-wealthy.
• Quote [10:29] “How can the laws apply to people who are making the laws?” – Charlamagne
• They break down how institutions enable and cover up for elites (citing specific names and roles), and the bizarre elasticity of legal consequences for famous abusers.
• Important distinction made: being “in the Epstein files” can mean anything from an email mention to deeper involvement.

3. Aliens Go Mainstream - Obama’s Alien Admission

[14:48-17:29]

• Obama confirmed on a podcast the likelihood of alien life, but asserts he hasn't seen any evidence at Area 51.
• Charlamagne criticizes interviewers for not pressing Obama for concrete details.
• Quote [15:23] “I don’t give a fuck. President tells you aliens are real, bro, I need to see what’s going on.” – Charlamagne

4. Conspiracy Theories: Past, Present & Proven

[22:38-34:01]

• The conversation swings from dark-rumored medical exploitation (Peter Nygard, organ and stem cell harvesting) to the hosts declaring “everything is back on the table”—conspiracy theorists aren’t crazy anymore.
• Quote [22:48] “We're not calling conspiracy theorists crazy anymore. Everything back on the table.” – Andrew Schulz
• They list both wilder and historically validated conspiracies (MKUltra, COINTELPRO, Tuskegee experiments, Watergate, Operation Northwoods, NSA surveillance, tobacco coverup).
• Memorable Moment [29:30-30:06] Recap of Tuskegee study, with the insight that people were labeled lunatics for telling the truth decades before official admission.

5. Pop Culture: Boy Bands as Psyop

[38:00-44:53]

• Andrew and Charlamagne riff on the theory that 90s–2000s boy bands were part of a massive “psyop” to “gay up the men,” using names like NSYNC (“Bye Bye Bye”), Backstreet Boys, and 98 Degrees as comic evidence.
• Quote [39:15] “These other countries are spending billions and billions to gay up the men in this country by Bye Bye Bye.” – Schultz (satirical)
• They playfully decode band names and choreography as double entendres, turning boy band trivia into an impromptu conspiracy theory showcase.

6. Janet Jackson, Justin Timberlake, and the Changing Line of "Offense"

[46:12-48:14]

• Discussion about Janet Jackson’s Super Bowl incident and broader societal hypocrisy.
• Argue that if the incident happened now, it would be nearly unremarkable; mused on cultural double standards and legal weed as parallels.

7. Systemic Wealth, Taxes, and Political Accountability

[84:37-94:48]

• Extended, nuanced rant on how tax policy props up exploitation: even calls to “tax the rich” target the upper middle class while billionaires and corporations skirt responsibility.
• Quote [92:36] “When I hear somebody talking about taxing the wealthy...I would really like them to have a prescriptive way to tax those people that can avoid those taxes very easily.” – Schultz
• The psyche of the modern city budget (specifically NYC), and repeated calls to fund social programs by adjusting taxation at the top.

8. Social Media, Surveillance & Culture Wars

[30:40-32:27]

• Emphasize parallels between the tobacco industry and Big Tech – predicting social media companies will eventually be litigated for addiction/mental health harms, and marvel at how willingly people now offer up personal data.
• Memorable Moment [32:27] “We’ve given it up. Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, Instagram... We don’t ever click on them terms and conditions, by the way.” – Charlamagne

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Levity & Mental Health:

  • “Being immature is good for my mental health.” — Charlamagne [08:10]
  • “Being mature is for people who can’t provide for their family.” — Schultz [07:46]

• On the Elite & Epstein:

  • “How can the laws apply to people who are making the laws?” — Charlamagne [10:29]
  • “Anybody can ace the test if you know the answer.” — Schultz [11:19]

• On Aliens:

  • “Obama said aliens are real. What do you mean, aliens?” — Charlamagne [15:23]
  • “They rolled out Obama... Tell them aliens are real.” — Schultz [14:48]

• On Conspiracy Theory Mainstreaming:

  • “We're not calling conspiracy theorists crazy anymore. Everything back on the table.” — Andrew Schultz [22:48]
  • “MKUltra...they’re doing that shit right now through edibles.” — Charlamagne [29:27]

• On Institutional Cover-Ups:

  • “You know for a fact there was people in the 1960s going, the government is giving black people syphilis and not curing them on purpose. And they would look like absolute lunatics.” — Schultz [29:45]
  • “Replace big tobacco with big tech...media platforms doin’ to y’all exactly what tobacco did to y’all in the 90s.” — Charlamagne [30:46]

• (Satirical) Boy Band Psyops:

  • “You think Bye Bye Bye was about greetings?” — Charlamagne [38:17]
  • “This is all a psyop. They’re attacking men in this country…” — Schultz [39:06]

• On Social Media Addiction:

  • “They just need to make a game that we like, and then we’ll just give you all our data.” — Schultz [32:15]

• On Tax Policy & Systemic Wealth:

  • “You can talk all you want about income tax, but if you actually want to tax the Epstein class, you’re going to have to find a different way to do it.” — Schultz [95:04]
  • “If you own half of Sony’s publishing and you giving publishing back to the artist for nothing...that’s why I can’t wait till this movie come out.” — Charlamagne [60:13]

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Segment & Topic Timestamps

• 07:22 – The value of being immature as adults/parents
• 09:09 – Epstein, financial crimes, and the untouchable rich
• 14:48 – Obama’s alien admission & why media doesn’t ask real follow-ups
• 22:38 – Modern conspiracy theories, Nygard, and why nothing is too far-fetched
• 29:30 – Proven conspiracies: Tuskegee, COINTELPRO, Watergate, false flags
• 38:00 – Boy bands as a government “psyop” (comedic riff)
• 46:12 – Revisiting Janet Jackson’s Super Bowl scapegoating
• 84:37 – Taxation, wealth, and why billionaire class evades accountability
• 30:40 – Big Tech, social media’s effects, future lawsuits

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Tone & Style Highlights

• The conversation swings between irreverent, sophomoric humor (“dick dodgers,” fart stories, “psyop to gay up the men”) and moments of incisive social critique.
• The hosts call out hypocrisy and selective moral outrage in pop culture and politics, while maintaining a self-aware sense of their own role as jesters.
• Satirical takes and “conspiratorial” thinking are balanced by clear-eyed acceptance that many “wild” theories have proven true, inviting listeners to question accepted narratives.

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Takeaways for New Listeners

• This episode is a wild ride: Expect vulgar humor, but also real insight into why so many feel institutions are corrupt and how society labels truth-tellers “crazy” until the facts catch up.
• Conspiracy is just another lens: Whether it’s Epstein, aliens, or boy bands, the hosts use “conspiracy theory” as a tool to highlight the bizarre, often illogical status quo.
• Major theme: The blurred line between what was once fringe and what is now mainstream consensus—and how the public cycle of scandal, denial, and eventual admission repeats.

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Quick Reference

• [09:01-16:53] – Epstein, power, and accountability
• [14:48-17:29] – Obama and aliens
• [22:38-34:01] – Conspiracies: old and new
• [38:00-44:53] – Boy bands, pop culture psyops
• [84:37-94:48] – Tax evasion and economic power
• [30:40-32:27] – Parallels: Big Tobacco & Big Tech

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In Summary

“Bye Bye Conspiracy” expertly blends the comedic, the crude, and the conspiratorial. Charlamagne and Schultz use humor and skepticism to dissect everything from the world’s most notorious cover-ups to the not-so-subtle messaging of boy bands, all while championing the liberating power of not taking life—or themselves—too seriously. At heart, though, it’s a plea for people to keep questioning, keep laughing, and never trust the surface of any story, no matter who tells it.

Transcript

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

What's up man? How you doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How was your weekend, sir? How was your week, man?

[Andrew Schultz]

Good, good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anything fun?

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what? Sagar from Breaking Points came in and he did this like whole Epstein breakdown for all the new files that have been dropped and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh yeah, she was trying to get me, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Say again?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought she was trying to get me, but then I saw the. I saw the video. See?

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought you were trying to get me, bro. No, they better say sog in these nuts in your mouth, dude. His name is Sagar.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sagar? Yeah, Sagar.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's his name? What's his whole name?

[Andrew Schultz]

Sagar and Jetty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay, okay. Maybe I know the injetti part.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was he. I mean, I saw. I didn't get a chance. What?

[Andrew Schultz]

You know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't know that. I do. I see him all the time on flagrant.

[Andrew Schultz]

I did find something out.

[Guest or Producer]

Where is he?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On. He's on a YouTube show, too.

[Andrew Schultz]

Breaking points.

[Guest or Producer]

Come on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why you bailing about? Well, no, the breaking points on YouTube.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes. You asked me something. I did find something out. I found out that Whataburger is the only fast food chain that starts with W.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the fuck does that mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

The only fast food chain that starts

[Charlamagne Tha God]

with W. They all start with different things, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, the letter W is. It's the only one that starts with W. There's no other fast food chain that starts with W. Let me think about this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me think, let me think. No, about to say Willie Wonka's White Castle. Yeah, Willie Wonka's Chocolate Factory. No, White Castle for sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

White Castle's not really.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's. Yes, it is. It's one of the best fast. I mean, I don't eat the shit no more, but. Cause I'm a crystal guy. And also it gives me gas.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember one time, bro, we drove the New York City.

[Andrew Schultz]

Alex, why would you open your fucking mouth about it? You are so stupid. It's unbelievable. No, no, see, because if this guy's really getting. This guy's really get it rolling. I did it. I did it the other day. So it's this one that went viral. This guy's on like a ski lift and he goes, whataburger is the only fast food J that starts with W. And the people going down the ski lift, they go, Wendy's. He goes, wendy's. Nuts hit your mouth. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wanted to get it started.

[Andrew Schultz]

And he was going to say he was going to get Wendy's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What bothers me is that I couldn't remember Wendy's right off the top of my head or White Castle. And I have such fond memories of both. Wendy's. My grandmother used to love to go to Wendy's when I would take the town.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why would you ruin it? She liked hot fries on the cusp.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He didn't have none. He wants my nuts in his mouth for himself. He didn't want you to get the opportunity to get these nuts in your mouth. He wanted that for himself. Ok. Yo. White Castle. Drove to New York City when I was young, back in the day with my dad and his now wife. And we ate White Castles. And I was letting it rip from the backseat.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

13 hours and lying every time saying what it was.

[Andrew Schultz]

His wife.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know who the f. I don't know who it was.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, raccoon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just letting the silent ones go. But nobody wants skunks. Skunk. Here's the thing. Nobody Wants to claim it. Because everybody was eating White Castles, so everybody was probably letting silent ones rip, but didn't know where it was coming from. That shit was great. And one of them hits so hard, when one of them hits really hard, you're not sure if everybody else smelt it. So you'd be like, God damn, who was that?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I never, I never think you guys aren't going to smell it when I let it go. Like I'm aware every single time, you

[Charlamagne Tha God]

know, it's a form of flirting.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think so it is. That's why I do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, why would you want another man to know how your ass smell?

[Andrew Schultz]

I think that because you want them to fuck it good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Isn't that what you're trying to get at?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you see what that motherfucker said on that video? He heard that fart. He's like, sounds like my size smells like my size. Tight, squishy, and most likely well lubricated. Straight up. Are you being public and you farting, somebody be like, huh, Sounds like you calling me. Sounds like my size. Better make sure that sound tight.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know, maybe there's some guys that want like a bigger hole.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, them loose ones. Them loose ones attract the feds, bro. Them loose ones make the.

[Andrew Schultz]

The feds come over.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I mean, by feds, I mean dick, but you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I mean.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait, why the fed's dick?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I just said fez. Okay, okay, I could think of an acronym. Fuck everything damn side of me. You know what I'm saying? What? Fuck every.

[Andrew Schultz]

See?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fuck every. I'm the dummy syndrome. I'm the dummy. Fornicate everyday dick sucker. Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Fornicate everyday, dick sucker.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Forever. Forever eternal dick suckers.

[Andrew Schultz]

Forever eternal dick suckers. That's good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Boom, boom. We got it. You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

We got it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what. That's me. When the feds come knocking for every dick swallower. Ooh, I like that. I like that. That sound like a Drake album. Damn, bro, don't that sound like a Drake album? Can he come back already? I'm just saying, don't it sound like a Drake album? For all the dogs. For every dick sucker. Dick swallower, swallower.

[Andrew Schultz]

So much crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't think so?

[Andrew Schultz]

Are you watching the gay hockey show yet?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The gay hockey show?

[Andrew Schultz]

You haven't heard of the gay hockey show?

[Guest or Producer]

No, this is a real thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like the biggest thing on Netflix right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Didn't y' all do that already? Back in the day? Benders. Benders. That's what I'm saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

We did the first gay hockey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all did the first gay hockey show.

[Andrew Schultz]

Shout out to Chrissy D, bro. We did the first gay hockey show. Everybody's copying us. We were gay before then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was the. What's the gay hockey show?

[Andrew Schultz]

It's called. What is it called?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Punk fucks.

[Andrew Schultz]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, on the way here, my homegirl's like, when are you gonna grow up? When are you. I said, I don't know. I really don't. I'm trying. Think. I'm not trying here.

[Andrew Schultz]

Heated rivalry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Why do you need to grow up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why do we need to grow up? Why the fuck do we need to grow up, bro? Yeah, especially when you got kids. No, like being childish with your kids. And when your kids are looking at you like, aren't you supposed to be the adult? That shit is so fun, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Being mature is for people who can't provide for their family. You got to mask that. You got to mask your inability to take care of your children and wife with, like, being responsible in public. No, no, that shit is performative. You try to be a fake person because you know what's underneath. We are taking care of our loved ones. Yes, man, by the glory of God, we are taking care of our loved ones.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And honestly, man, being immature is good for my mental health.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's good for everybody. It's good for everybody around you's mental health because it gives them the freedom

[Charlamagne Tha God]

to also be immature yourself. Just have a little fun, talk a little shit, say what's on your mind.

[Andrew Schultz]

How long can you be in a conversation with someone who's pretending to be serious?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not long.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, you need to break the wall. Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They actually get mad at me about that on, like, interviews and shit like that, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I got. I gotta. It's gotta be like a joke, Everybody. Three minute minimum. Something.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because why? You get a little anxious being serious?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, man. You know, just. And I'm cool with the serious conversation.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But also, there's really good moments in that serious conversation for jokes as well.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So let's do it for the levity.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, the more. The more tense the situation is, the more ready for a laugh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We are. Yes. Because nothing's never that serious.

[Andrew Schultz]

Not well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, it's really not something. Give me an example.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hockey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, Epstein.

[Andrew Schultz]

Epstein.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What part of Epstein?

[Guest or Producer]

The kid.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. That is crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

What about the financial crimes?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's actually very small. That's minor compared to the minors that are in this. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

He still made the joke. Bravo, bravo. Well, he tried to be serious. He was like, I'm gonna give you

[Charlamagne Tha God]

a serious, thoughtful answer.

[Andrew Schultz]

And the word minor hit his head.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Couldn't help it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Pinball machines fucking help it. Yeah, but neither could he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Stop it, guys. But we gotta chill.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But all jokes aside, yeah, the, the, the, the financial crimes and shit like that is so, like, it doesn't even matter compared to like fucking children and the murders and everything, like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I agree with you, but I think the financial crimes are what is actually going to. I think it's going after. The financial crimes are going to actually unearth what the whole thing is. I think that's because I think when like, we were looking to all these emails and all these conversations and basically what you're seeing is that there's this, you know, group of incredibly wealthy and powerful people and the laws don't apply to them. And not only do they not apply to them when they're, you know, having sex with underage girls, but they don't apply to them when it comes to paying taxes. They don't apply to them when it comes to breaking the law and getting punished.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How can the laws apply to people who are making the laws?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, now, now you talk and funding

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the people who are making the law.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now you're talking now. The thing that's frustrating, I imagine, for all of us is you basically are, you know, you see these people out there and it's like, man, they just, you know, continue to have all the success and they continue to have all this wealth. You have everything. And, and the, the thought is, you're like, what, what is going on? Why can they have these opportunities? Why are they put in these positions? What the fuck is going on here? And they would like us to believe that they just work harder, you know, they would like us to believe that they're just going after it. No, what you're doing is rigging the system and you are taking advantage of everyday people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But don't you have to be, don't you have to have a certain level of intelligence and have had to put in a certain level of work to get in position to be that high up the food chain that you can, you know, get an opportunity to rig the whole system?

[Andrew Schultz]

Anybody can ace the test if you know the answer. And I think the, the, the, the fact that they present themselves as if they don't have the answers. Like if, if you're a bank, right? Like, and you get caught laundering money for rich people in America and you don't even have to pay the full price for the crime. Like, you can negotiate that down by talking to Epstein. And then what is it? Kathy Rumler, she was like the head lawyer for Goldman Sachs. And I think she was like the Obama's like White House chief deputy or something like that. Like, they just help you negotiate the punishment down. You're basically communicating to that bank, right? This is a Swiss bank. You're basically communicating them. Hey guys, you could break the law. And then if we catch you, we'll just knock the fine down. So it's not that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, so.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then that's the messaging that's constantly going on with this Epstein class of people. It's like they break the law and then it gets pushed under the rug. Epstein's initial case breaks the law, 40 girls are coming out, and then they give him like this slap on the wrist. Not even like really a pedophile charge. This is what happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's crazy that he had to. Wasn't he registered as a sex offender For a little while.

[Guest or Producer]

For a little while.

That's crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

For a little while. Like, why is it a little while? Did you get over it? No, you get registered for that forever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, and I do wonder. I was thinking about this too, right? The Warren Buffett's. The. The. The who. Who else is the richest people in the. Steve Jobs, even though he's deceased. God bless the dead. Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, but not the H is in there.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm talking about the guys that are ultra wealthy who aren't in there.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, like who?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just named him.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't think Buffett's in there at all?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, his name would have been out already. By the way, some people are listed in there for. Which is also strange. Some people are listed in there just because they were being talked about. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, like in just regular email ways, like, yeah, I don't like that. Like, I don't like when people be like, oh, this person was in the Epstein files. You like. But when you go read what they did, it was literally somebody just mentioning.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're talking about. Yeah, no, no, in the Epstein files should mean you are interacting with Epstein. You're doing favors on behalf of Epstein

[Charlamagne Tha God]

or you're asking Epstein for things, anything. If you were doing favors for Epstein or Doing things with Epstein after he

[Andrew Schultz]

was convicted, Especially if it's before he's convicted. You can at least. We can at least give you the benefit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The benefit of the doubt.

[Andrew Schultz]

We can go, okay. You're not looking up everything about this person. You know that he's powerful, you know that he's wealthy, and you want to connect with powerful, wealthy people, right? Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

After conviction, we got a magnifying glass on you. After conviction, we got a magnifying glass on you. Okay. And of course, if you're asking for sexual favors and asking for girls, it's like, come on, come on, you should be cooked.

[Andrew Schultz]

Also, the people who said that they had no contact with him after the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

fact, and you found, like, you found

[Andrew Schultz]

out not only Elon Lutnick, Howard Lutnick, the Commerce Secretary Trump's right hand man, is behind him in every single video. Said went over to his house, he did his. This whole interview where he painted this picture is like, oh, he was so creepy. And we never spoke to him again. Find out that him and his family go to the island.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's the only one who brought his

[Charlamagne Tha God]

children to the island for lunch or some shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, yeah, it's like, we don't care why you went there, what fucking meal

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you went there for. You talked about the island like it was magic city. Like, I went for the wings. Wings. You know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck is going on, man? Yeah, it's interesting. And I was really sitting back thinking this week, it's just like, what do conspiracy theorists have to even hang their hat on that? I mean, because you got Obama telling us aliens are real, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

They rolled out Obama. He's trying to be retired in Hawaii. They rolled him out and they said, tell them aliens are real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is the second time he's done this. And you know what pissed me off about that interviewer? He didn't fucking follow up. You just don't let Obama say aliens are real. And you move on to the next subject. Like, you got to listen to what he said. He said aliens are real. What do you mean, aliens. What do you mean aliens are real? Explain that. He explained it on his Instagram, though. What he said was the same thing that we've always said is that the universe is so big and there's so many different universes and galaxies that the chances of life are high. Duh. Like, I don't know why that's such

[Andrew Schultz]

a. Yeah, I just saw the clip. So you're saying that he. That Obama confirms that aliens are Real. And then he just moves on to another.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, he asked him, I think the next follow up question was, well, Obama said aliens are real. Then he explained that he's never seen any. He don't think that they're in no underground lab somewhere. And then the next question, did he ask him?

[Andrew Schultz]

Did he. Oh, go keep going.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The next question the interviewer asked was, what's the one thing you wanted to see soon as you got in the White House? Or something like that. Cause I think they said it was a rapid fire round. So he was just asking rapid fire questions at the end. But I don't give a fuck. President tells you aliens are real, bro, I need to see what's going on.

[Andrew Schultz]

Put your foot on that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I need. Oh, this is the clip. Are aliens real?

[Andrew Schultz]

They're real, but I haven't seen them. And they're not being kept in, what

[Charlamagne Tha God]

is it, Area 51.

[Andrew Schultz]

Area 51. There's no underground facility. Unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hid it from the President of the United States.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was the first question you wanted answered when you became president?

[Andrew Schultz]

Where are the aliens? Where are the aliens?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Brian Tyler Cohen podcast. By the way, that could be it too. I think we keep acting like, you know, President of the United States of America means top of the food chain.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're here for four to eight years. We're not telling you everything as a civilian. Going on every podcast telling us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Yo, like you, like you say, I'm only you. Only here for a short time. Okay? We the people that run this shit forever. All right? And we don't need you all to know what the fuck is going on.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, that's good, man. That's hard hitting journalism. That's how you need to approach these.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but you got to, you got to do a follow up. And the thing is, are aliens real?

[Andrew Schultz]

Those are the questions we should be asking Obama right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I asked Hillary that. I said, I said, when you become president, will you let us know if aliens are real? And I forgot what her answer was. But that shit made every UFO site like I went viral.

[Andrew Schultz]

They love hearing that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dt Twitter, Thanos Twitter. I was super viral with that. I was super viral. If you become president, are you really going to tell the truth about UFOs?

[Andrew Schultz]

I have said I want to open the files as much as we can, but there are enough stories out there that I don't think everybody is just sitting in their kitchen making them up.

[Guest or Producer]

But Is that guy like a journalist or just like a podcast?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Brian Tyler Cohen.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think he has a podcast or like a YouTube channel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He might be a journalist. I don't disrespect nobody no more. I don't know who's who in this space. I mean, President Obama's sitting down with him, so clearly he got some real motion. Look up who Brian Tyler Cohen is. I don't want to disrespect that man. Look it up. Look, let's look. Let's look up who he is.

[Andrew Schultz]

Come on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the crazy thing about aliens, I've been saying this forever, man. When you look at the earth and you look at the variety of life on Earth, why would you expect all of these different galaxies and universes to be any different? And the arrogance of us American earthlings to always look at things from our perspective. Like, I got a homeboy salute to my guy, Frosty. Frosty, you know I love you, Frosty. Be like, do you know how long it would take to get to another planet? No. How long it would take us. We don't know what the fuck they got. They might got some Dr. Doom shit where they just traveling from dimension to dimension like, it's nothing we don't know. Brian Tyler Cohen is a prominent progressive political commentator, podcaster, and author known for hosting no Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen. He is widely viewed online media personality with over 10 million subscribers across platforms, often featuring high profile political figures. He's also an MSNB contributor. Oh, yeah, he lit journalist. He lit. He's a real journalist. We the ones pretending he watches the New York Times. Like, why the do you have those guys there Panel. Okay, what did that mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

We didn't talk about aliens enough on that panel, dude. I think that's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We didn't talk about aliens.

[Andrew Schultz]

We should have done that. That's. Those are the. Those are the questions you didn't ask.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I tell Duo that all the time. I'm like, why? Why? Why do I just. Why talk anything with sense? Hey, bro, like, I think I'm just about to go full fledged pooh shiesty. Tinfoil tinfoil pooh shiesty, man. So, like, why? Because there's nothing else to talk about.

[Andrew Schultz]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Epstein, is there aliens? Are there?

[Andrew Schultz]

Not that there's nothing else to talk about, but like, if you know that there's a group of global elites that are fucking children breaking the law left and right and that there is going to be no justice whatsoever for these people, why do we got to take shit serious, bro? They take Your shit up with them, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We live in a world where they really out here grilling babies, bro, like they are the field, you know what I'm saying? They take your baby legs and fucking putting them between buns and eating them shit like snacks, bro.

[Guest or Producer]

I don't think they're doing that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, you seen that video with a dude. What's the dude named? Peter. What's Peter's name?

[Andrew Schultz]

Peter Atia. The.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's either T or something with an

[Andrew Schultz]

N. Oh, Peter Nygaard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you see what he's. Pull up the video where he's soliciting the fucking parts from the black women. It's a video. I'm like, this is not. AI, put Pete in the guard. Parts from black women. Wow, he got sentences really

[Andrew Schultz]

Canadian fashion.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know if that's him. Scroll back.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sexual predator. Peter Nygart says 11 years for four counts of sexual assaults.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me pull up this. I just found out you got a search engine on Instagram. I'll be looking. Man, my is crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, really? They finally figured that out, huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just got my algorithm back.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hold on. Tick Tock made them. Tick Tock made them change the whole thing up. I think that's what happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on.

[Guest or Producer]

And AI.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no. Yeah, Peter is the name. Peter Nygard. Yeah, listen.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stem cell technology that Peter I invested

[Charlamagne Tha God]

in is called scmd, which takes the egg of a young, perfect woman specimen, takes the egg and takes out the

[Andrew Schultz]

nucleus and puts our DNA in the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

N.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're dealing with darkness that we don't see. You're dealing with dark people, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's currently sexy black women from Africa.

[Andrew Schultz]

Negroes have a kind of a second. Can I just say one thing? Why is this so far fetched for people to believe we already know that there are people stealing other people's organs and selling them on the black market. Right? We know that. That happens for a fact. They're stealing kidneys. They'll kidnap you, drug you and take body parts. Right. That's not conspiracy. We know that that happens, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay. Why is it so crazy to believe that they would be doing any of this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's right. This is a video. Peter Nygaard, Locker Epstein associate attempting to purchase babies from black women, saying whatever I bid, he's gonna outbid me. I'll buy 60,000 worth of eggs. Umbilical cord, a placenta. Even your period blood is so rich with stem cells.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, I mean, they do.

[Guest or Producer]

Oh, that's different. That's the adrenochrome stuff, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, that's also bad. You're taking baby blood.

[Guest or Producer]

No, Yeah, I know, but I thought he was sitting there eating actual babies.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, it's a little different.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, this is just. He just chooses to consume it a different way.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's crazy to think. Yeah, it's just like, everything's on the table, bro. Everything's back on the table. Literally, everything's back on the table. We're not calling conspiracy theorists crazy anymore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're not.

[Andrew Schultz]

Everything back on the table.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's literally what it boils down to. That's what I'm saying. Like, yeah, what do we. Why this shit that I'm watching now is like, too surface. I gotta go back to Behold the Pale Horse and everything. Cause I was. I was. I was ahead of the game.

[Andrew Schultz]

Give me some good. Give me a good conspiracy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

Give me something good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean,

[Andrew Schultz]

give me a good one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sasquatch is still there, bro. You don't like. You don't fuck with the squash.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why am I worried about the animal conspiracies like flat earth and animal conspiracy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't do the flat earth now. I will say now. The. Some shit being over in Antarctica, I like ice wall. Being behind the ice wall.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know about the ice wall.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you saw the guy that escaped from the ice wall. No, albino. Straight albino. Blunt, you know, straight albino. Blonde hair. Bro, you ain't see the. Y' all, ain't. Y' all gotta get up on my algorithm. Hold on, hold on. He looked just like crying Don Salute to my guy. Hold upon. You didn't see the guy who escaped from the ice wall?

[Andrew Schultz]

How long do albinos live? Al, can you Google that? Like, what's the life expectancy for that guy? This is the same.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you mean guy who escaped? Y' all didn't see that shit?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, typical. Escaped albinism typically does not affect life expectancy. Oh, well, that's good.

[Guest or Producer]

They just got to use.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So this country in Antarctica.

[Guest or Producer]

What about it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How long has it been there? Why doesn't anybody know about this?

[Andrew Schultz]

Maria Garcia.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

At least 10,000 years old. Look, when we first. Why you don't want. Now you don't want to believe. I thought you said everything was on the table. Look, look, look, look.

[Andrew Schultz]

The only thing bro, this is what's on the table is things that affect power structures. People will do anything for power money. That's now what I. There's nothing that I don't think people do for power money. If you could tell me that. Like, point you, if you can grind up the albinos in some way when they, you know, possess certain powers, etc, then I could maybe believe it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What if that. What if. What if those people behind the ice wall are behind the ice wall? Because that's exactly what they might use them for. You understand what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, they might be something, that there might be some power that the people behind the ice wall give them. So let's keep them away from all of society and only us elite, secret society people know about it. Every now and then we go behind the ice wall to power up. You know what I mean? Like, cures for cancer could be behind that shit. Like, oh, by the way, we ain't even talk about that.

[Andrew Schultz]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In the past couple of weeks, through all of this shit, how many cures for cancer have popped out?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, that's a great conspiracy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How many cures of cancer have popped out?

[Andrew Schultz]

The United States leaves the World Health Organization. This is the conspiracy. The United States pulls out of the World Health Organization, the WHO or whatever, and immediately cancer treatments just start popping up. So then the conspiracy is that the US has been applying pressure to keep these cures for cancer down so that the pharmaceutical companies that make money selling drugs to people that have cancer.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you see this shit?

[Guest or Producer]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is real major. Yes. This shit is so minor.

[Andrew Schultz]

But to me, that's the reason why that's interesting is that it plays into power dynamics and wealth. Like, what horrible things were human beings willing to do in order to enrich themselves, even at the cost of other people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We said it on this podcast months ago.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even think that's cool anymore, yo.

[Andrew Schultz]

Low key.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like, that ain't even.

[Guest or Producer]

I want.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I need to be something else. Like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I hear you, dude.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like, gay is normal.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, y' all don't think so.

[Guest or Producer]

You gotta be a they. Them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's normal, too. That shit is old. That shit was so trendy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. People fell up. They stopped doing that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The days don't even say that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, they don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because it's too hard. Yeah, it's too hard to even. Yeah, like, who all.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like watching Pluribus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What they doing?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like, what them doing? We them over here. We they over here. I love they. You know what I mean? Do you love they? The fuck are you talking about?

[Andrew Schultz]

It is. It is more difficult to speak like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's ice wall language. They said that the person who came from behind the ice wall was speaking a different language. That is a different language. That is a different language. All of these shit seem corny. Like, Alex, just go with your Google top 10 conspiracy. Yeah, it's moon landing hoax.

[Andrew Schultz]

9 11. Inside job, obviously, by the way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Moon landing hoax. Definitely. Obviously. They made a whole movie about it. That's another great conspiracy theory.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't think that we got there? We definitely got to the point. Nah, nah, I think we got there. I just think that we re taped some of the scenes from the landing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You've seen that movie with Channing Tatum and Scarlett Johansson. Take Me to the Moon.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a fucking movie. I watched it on the plane. Channing Tatum and Scarlett Johansson. It's called Take Me to the Moon. I think they made it over the last few years. That's literally what it's about. How America just wanted to beat, I believe, Russia.

[Andrew Schultz]

They want to the moon. They want to bankrupt Russia. That's the idea.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

So we made Russia feel like, yo, we're going to get to the moon. So they spend all this money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

When in reality, that wasn't what we were.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now in the movie, they do both. They send somebody to the moon, but just in case they don't get there, they videotape it. They have this whole fake moon landing thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Because they were live streaming it, which is kind of crazy for the 60s.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And somebody convinces Channing Tatum. No, man, like, you really, if you gonna do it, you gotta really do it. So they ended up really putting it on there. And it's better that they did because the Hulk shit fucked up like a cat ran through the shit. Oh, this is dumb. But they ended up going to the moon. I don't believe the moon. I believe the story that I heard about the moon a long time ago, that they went up there and something told them, y' all need to get the fuck back. Y' all ain't ready for what's up here.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, sir.

[Guest or Producer]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, sir. Now, they also say it's McDonald's on the moon.

[Andrew Schultz]

Have you heard that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you didn't hear that, but that's a true story. Remember when the McDonald's mascot used to be the moon man? No, you don't remember when the McDonald's mascot used to be the moon man? Used to be the crescent moon with the shades?

[Guest or Producer]

I do remember, yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where the you think that came from? Yo, people don't have this type of imagination. All of these movies that we see, this movie that we're talking about, Take me to the moon right now. That's not imagination. Can you less a story.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can you look up conspiracy theories that have proven to be true or valid? This would be kind of interesting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a good one. That's a good one right there. By the way. That whole list damn near has been proven true. They had the COVID shit up there.

[Andrew Schultz]

I saw the COVID one up there, which is really funny. We didn't get any apologies for that, by the way. Wrote some apologies for that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are the top conspiracies that have been proven to be right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh yeah. MKUltra. The CIA ran mind control experiments on the US and Canadian citizens using LSD and other methods. Methods declassified in 1970.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're doing that shit right now through edibles.

[Andrew Schultz]

COINTELPRO.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, absolutely. COINTELPRO still exists right now. All of you motherfucking Time out. Let's stay here for a second. Cointelpro exists right now. A bunch of you motherfucking bloggers that are getting paid to spread false narratives about people. Y' all are cointelpro and don't even know it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, think about this. The Tuskegee syphilis study. The US government knowingly left black men untreated for syphilis to study disease progression. They admitted 1972. You know for a fact there was people in the 1960s going, the government is giving black people syphilis and not curing them on purpose. And they would look like absolute lunatics.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They would get clown like, motherfucker, you just wanted to hit that shit raw.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wrong.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ok. Government blaming the government on you not wearing a condom. Motherfucker.

[Andrew Schultz]

100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Watergate scandal. Nixon's administration covered up illegal political espionage led to his resignation in 1974.

[Andrew Schultz]

Operation Northwoods. Declassified documents showed the Pentagon proposed staging fake terror attacks to justify war with Cuba. Never executed but documented.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They still doing that to this day.

[Andrew Schultz]

False flags to this day. Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Date Big day.

[Andrew Schultz]

Big Tobacco cover up. Tobacco companies hid internal research proving cigarettes cause cancer. Confirmed through lawsuits in the 1990s.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right now replace big tobacco with big social media. Big tech. Big tech cover up social media media platforms doing to y' all exactly what tobacco did to y' all in the 90s. Just as addictive, fucking your brains up the way they ultimately fucked up your lungs.

[Andrew Schultz]

In 20 years people are going to look back and be like, hold on, hold on. You're saying they let 3 year old kids scroll social media for 8 hours a day?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Endlessly. By the way, it's people winning. Winning those lawsuits right now, I believe if people suing for mental health issues and anxiety issues and they're winning those lawsuits. Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Iran Contrafare. The US secretly sold weapons to Iran.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Skipped one.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, my bad. What is it? Oh, NSA mass surveillance. The US government was secretly collecting massive amounts of phone and Internet data revealed by Edward Snow in 2013.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And now we've given it up, by the way. Now we. Now we give it up. We go on these apps, we click to terms and conditions that we don't even read, and we wondering why our AI likeness going to be out here sucking cocks. And you got to prove it's not you.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what? You know what is why? You know, it is funny. Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I'm getting ahead of a video.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, you been ahead for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Getting ahead of a video, Alex. Don't worry about it. You know. You know, funny is not me. If you see me sucking a cock

[Andrew Schultz]

now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It really seemed like there's a video out there.

[Andrew Schultz]

You suck a cock.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm fucking around.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, nah, nah, nah. You stamped it. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody gonna make the AI video, then go back to this. See?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yup. But it is funny that, like, the US was still stealing our data when all they need to do is make it fun. Yeah, like, they were so stupid. Like, just make a game that we like, and then we'll just give you all our data.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They did. We've given it up. Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, TikTok. We don't ever click on them. Terms and conditions, by the way. We don't know what we owe these people. One day, somebody might come knocking at your door.

[Andrew Schultz]

Placenta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The feds.

[Andrew Schultz]

I need the placenta now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I need that dick suck.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sharla, Sharla, Sharla. Come on, son. You're supposed to believe that. You haven't watched the gay hockey show. We are supposed to sit here and believe that you have it. Close your mouth, bro. This guy got veneers and everything.

[Guest or Producer]

I know.

[Andrew Schultz]

He wants the doorway to look good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, listen, listen, guys, listen. I need y' all to understand something. We're not serious to have most conversations. Yo, somebody said the funniest shit about us on Instagram. Hold on. They said we're like the Peanuts gang with no filter. Hold on. You didn't see this shit. And they made us cartoons. They made you the dude with the blanket. It made me Charlie Brown. Hold on. Where the fuck is this shit at? Oh, here you go. Said getting some real good Grief vibes from this week's episode. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. He said watching Andrew and Charlamagne on the brim, it is. Feels less like a podcast and more like watching a lost episode of the Peanuts gang. If they grew up, moved to the city and lost their filters, Andrew's definitely out here giving off big, messy haired Linus energy. And we all know Charlamagne would be the one to pull the football away at the last second. Yeah, like, what the.

[Andrew Schultz]

We are washed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what that. If that's what it means. Cool. Go back to the fucking.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, we're not done with the conspiracies, Al. Trying to shut this shit down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Iran Contra affair. The US secretly sold weapons to Iran and funded Nicaraguan rebels, despite

[Andrew Schultz]

yo Charlotte's short circuited. Yo, plug him back in. Plug Charlotte back in. Yo. Yeah, like Trinidad James.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, listen. Proving to be true. Okay, what was dude's name? Oliver north, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm not falling for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it was Oliver North.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oliver Twist.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man, shut up. It was Oliver North. Y' all don't remember who?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oliver.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all remember Oliver North?

[Guest or Producer]

I think so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you mean, you think so? He was the fucking main character of this shit. Oliver wasn't Epstein involved with.

[Guest or Producer]

I ran a Contra.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think he comes into power around that time. Around that time?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really? Why?

[Andrew Schultz]

Or basically, what they say is that there's this thing called the Church Committee, where a lot of these things that are admitted came from the Church Committee. Basically, they wanted transparency for nefarious acts that the government was doing within the country and around the world. And once the government now had to disclose the things that they were doing, they needed to find these intermediaries that they could trust to do the things. It's not like the government was like, oh, you caught us. We're not going to affect the world anymore. And so they need to find guys like Epstein and just a handful of other people, and they became the intermediaries to do this stuff, to wash the money, to launder the money, to get the money to these other countries.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've been chosen for that shit. Well, crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, well, maybe you're groomed for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe you're fucking groomed for it, you know? And then you spend the rest of your life grooming. That's crazy. Oliver north was the central figure in the 1980s Iran Contra affair. He secretly orchestrated the illegal sale of weapons. Weapons to Iran to secure hostages, to secure hostage releases, and diverted proceeds to fund the Nicaraguan Contra rebels violating the Boland Amendment or Boland FBI surveillance of subversive artists, musicians and actors were monitored during the Cold War. Files later released under FOIA Freedom of Information Act. Oh, yeah, I want to monitor for what, though?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, you know what they said is, you know Jackson Pollock, the painter that just did these, like, weird. I don't know what the type of. Of art it was called, but they said that the CIA propped it up as a Cold War tactic to like, show how like, free and liberated America was. Look at the art that we produce, do all this other kooky, crazy shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So why did we.

[Andrew Schultz]

What other artists are they doing that too?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But listen, why did we sweep under the rug that Praj was a spy?

[Andrew Schultz]

Crazy, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, nobody ever just thinks about that.

[Andrew Schultz]

From where, though?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

China, Right?

[Guest or Producer]

Wait, Praz from the Fugees?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's in prison. Hold on. Pras.

[Guest or Producer]

For being a Chinese spy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me make sure I'm saying this correct.

[Andrew Schultz]

I remember him getting locked up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Pras was sentenced to 14 years in prison for his role in a massive multi year foreign influence scheme. He was convicted of acting as an unregistered agent of China, conspiring to defraud the US government. Witness tampering and money laundering.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, shit.

[Guest or Producer]

Oh, I think wasn't that the time when China was trying to get people to buy property here? They were trying to offshore their money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what it was for, but I'm just saying the fact that stuff like that happened and it's just like, on to the next.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, what you gonna do, move countries?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, but I'm just saying, don't you think that's worthy of more of a conversation?

[Andrew Schultz]

Of course we should. I guess what just happens is, like, when the government, when the country is doing the bad thing, we don't really have much choice. We have to hold them accountable. And if they're the people in power, then what the fuck are we gonna do? You know what I mean? What is the recourse when the government and the most powerful people that don't have to abide by any of the rules that they create are doing bad shit?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but if.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do we do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But if Pras was an unregistered agent of China, Pras, all he gave us was Ghetto superstar and he was the third member of the Fuji. So imagine what some of these bigger artists are.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you think NSYNC and Backstreet Boys are?

[Guest or Producer]

No, don't do that.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is a psyop to gay up the men. And it works. Yo, this is a psyop to gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll tell you something.

[Andrew Schultz]

To gay up the men and women.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody ever thinks about this. No, no, no, no, no. When Andrew Schultz is cooking, you gotta let him cook.

[Andrew Schultz]

Come on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think Bye Bye Bye was about greetings.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's not about greetings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think Bye bye Bye was about greetings?

[Andrew Schultz]

Nope, not beat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I guarantee you, you can see the spite of and fluidity amongst men after

[Andrew Schultz]

that song 100 their impact. It's a psyop. They're putting in your brain. You're bisexual. You're bisexual, you're bisexual.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I bet you started thinking about painting your nails around that time.

[Andrew Schultz]

Of course you did. Of course you did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What year was that?

[Guest or Producer]

That was like 2000.

[Andrew Schultz]

The Backstreet Boys. That's your generation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know, I was. I mean, I had. My frontal cortex was fully developed.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, their manager got locked up, right?

[Guest or Producer]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Come on, bro. This is all a psy up. They're attacking men in this country, bro. These other countries are spending billions and billions of dollars to gay up the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

men in this country by bye bye.

[Andrew Schultz]

I tell it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not, I'm just. You don't have to learn. But in 10 years, yeah, when all of this comes out, just like with the FT5s, you'll be like, damn, they

[Andrew Schultz]

told you the guy that didn't believe that they were giving black dudes syphilis in Tuskegee.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

You're being that guy right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Is it that far fetched? Is it that far fetched? Every one of these boy groups, they all a little bit sweet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Back Street Boys.

[Guest or Producer]

So are y' all gay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say it backwards.

[Andrew Schultz]

Say it backwards.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say it backwards.

[Andrew Schultz]

Boys. Street.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Backwards. Boys. Street. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? That's like that street street meat, bro. That's when you just walk on the street, right? And that boy is right there. $60 off the street.

[Andrew Schultz]

What were the other bands? 98 Degrees.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See what I'm saying? That's the temperature you got to have it at.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you know what the temperature? You know what the temperature come is? Look up. The temperature. It come. Look up. I guarantee you the temperature. Look up. The temperature come right now. Look up. What is the temperature of semen you need?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What temperature do you need it to survive?

[Andrew Schultz]

There we go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What temperature do you need it to survive? Oh, shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Go, go, go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right on the money.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. Between. Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

93.2 degrees Fahrenheit. They had to put it up five more degrees because it would have been too obvious. Yeah, but sperm production requires a temperature lower than the core body temperature. Typically around 93.2 degrees Fahrenheit.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, go down. Go down. Optimal production testicles are ideally kept 32 degrees Celsius to 34 degrees Celsius. 89.6.

[Guest or Producer]

It was 98 degrees.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Alex, Alex. Add it up. Add it up. 8. Do the math.

[Andrew Schultz]

Plus 9.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Plus 6. Plus 93. Minus 7 of 5. 98. Pull up the boy.

[Guest or Producer]

How many guys yours was at 98 degrees?

[Andrew Schultz]

I think mine was at about 20. I think mine was frozen. Mine was like the albinos in our article.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn. God damn. Pull up the name of the boy bands. There's something to this, bro. There's something to you. Pull up all.

[Andrew Schultz]

It was a psyop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All time great boy bands, bro. We already. We already proved instinct with the Bye Bye.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right now with the Korean pop bands. All those guys are too handsome to be only guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Holy shit. Holy shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Keep going down. Keep going down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow. Justin. I'm not.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not making jokes, boys.

[Andrew Schultz]

Two men.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

New Kids on the Block.

[Andrew Schultz]

New Kids on the block.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you think they did? What do you think they said every time they bought a new crop to the island?

[Andrew Schultz]

New kids on the block. Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dude. Nah. Y' all not. Fuck. You're not paying attention to Alex. We're not woke.

[Andrew Schultz]

They bring the boys to the men.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Keep going down. Watch more. I mean, it's crazy how often you see this Boyzone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never even heard of them.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is Boy Zone is crazy. Now I know. That was a special part of the island. That's all I'm saying. This is Alex. Open your fucking third eye, man. Pay a fucking attention. Yo, this shit is crazy. And all of this shit will be.

[Andrew Schultz]

Think about it. NSync. It's short for NSync. Who's the sink? Who's the sink?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

R. R, R. That's where you clean the body parts in the sink. Yo, y' all stupid. You gotta do it in the sink.

[Guest or Producer]

Y' all really don't. Y' all really don't.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what they call the Tuskegee Conspiracy theorist. Back in the day they called him Thumb. And then what happened? What happened? Syphilis.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You'll learn for everybody so far.

[Guest or Producer]

How do you guys know? How do you guys know this?

[Andrew Schultz]

Cause we're looking at you, bro. You got painted nails and opinions.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You Definitely. You're definitely a Backstreet Boy. You are a whole Backstreet boy.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is the psyop, bro. This is the psyop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you working on you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Look how I'm sitting. Look at your nails. Look how I'm sitting. Sitting. It's worked on us, obviously.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're a back street boy, Charlotte.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just a min to sucking dick. A whole episode. It worked on all of us. We've all been compromised.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bye bye.

[Andrew Schultz]

Bye, bye, bye.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why they always got to do their head like this? Why does the got to start like this?

[Andrew Schultz]

Cuz there's multiple dicks coming at you. It's a party. It's a party. It's a party.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It does look like they be sucking. They be ducking dicks, bro. Any choreography from a boy band in the 90s?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, Dodger, that manager was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then they're like,

[Andrew Schultz]

they jerking them. They jerking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you find out your favorite 90s boy band was Dick Dodgers.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, they weren't crazy. Yeah, crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It worked for them though. They blew the up.

[Andrew Schultz]

But they still dealing with the repercussions of that now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They are if you. They are. They are. You're absolutely right. If you survive the trauma. Hey, man. Hey, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

What's the guy's name? Justin Timberlake, man. The guy's suffering right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

You got a DUI and a place where you could walk everywhere.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My guy, Justin. Yo.

[Andrew Schultz]

What I mean, you just walk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why you gotta call out Justin, by the way?

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, shout out Justin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Letting him live Justin.

[Andrew Schultz]

Think about even his last name.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Timber.

[Andrew Schultz]

Lake.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ooh. A tree and something wet. A fucking tree fell in something wet, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yuck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tree.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yuck. Fellas.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wedding.

[Andrew Schultz]

Timberland. Timber.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that fucking boom.

[Andrew Schultz]

Boom. The wood is falling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That wood falls in some.

[Andrew Schultz]

The wood is falling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wood in the lake, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Depending on what's the lake made out of?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Timber.

[Andrew Schultz]

Lake is falling. What's the lake made out of?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Timber. Lake is crazy. Wood just fell in. Something wet is crazy. Justin. I fuck with Justin.

[Andrew Schultz]

I fuck with Justin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I'm gonna tell you something. When we write, we write right? Okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

It is what it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Usher win. Usher won that, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Usher won.

[Guest or Producer]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There was like a little battle between Usher and Justin Timberlake back in the day. And Usher used to always be like, cut it out. We not on the same level. Blah, blah, blah, this and that. Like I would say Usher won. Yeah, because Usher had a whole complete career resurgence. I mean, even back then, Usher was smoking. I mean, he was diamond.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think they both had amazing success in Their careers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but Usher's still going despite having

[Andrew Schultz]

to deal with trauma at a young age because of these psyops.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why wouldn't Timberlake go to Vegas, bro?

[Andrew Schultz]

Because, man, you don't get to go to Vegas unless you're Damn. Unless you make it out. Vegas means you made it out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Think he still owes?

[Andrew Schultz]

Say again?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think he still owes?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you said, you think he still owes?

[Andrew Schultz]

You think he still owes? Yeah, I mean, when you make a deal with the devil. Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did Justin make a. Justin.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's only one way out. That's blood in, blood out, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's blood in, blood out.

[Guest or Producer]

He sacrificed Janet at the Super Bowl.

[Andrew Schultz]

Brittany, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[Guest or Producer]

Brittany too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what, man? That super bowl moment was so overblown. Like, we owe Janet Jackson, like, reparations for that, bro. Nah, come on. A titty?

[Guest or Producer]

But in that day, that was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was a covered up, up titty.

[Andrew Schultz]

It was a covered up titty. We didn't just see nipple.

[Guest or Producer]

It had a nipple ring on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bad bunny had way more ass shaking

[Andrew Schultz]

and way more shout out to Bunny, bro. You know, Janet just had a titty

[Charlamagne Tha God]

with a star 20 years later.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but that's how it starts. They started with the titty there, right? They get you. They open you up with that titty. They desensitize you to that sexualization at a young age.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And now, 20 years later, I treat

[Charlamagne Tha God]

that the way I treat legal marijuana now. Like, if you got a state where you got people doing federal sentences, like, long, big, long time, like, you know, for marijuana, but the state you're in has made, like, say they're locked up in, like, Michigan, Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

I know exactly where you go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

California. You're locked up for a state charge, right? Yeah. You're locked up for a state charge, but they've made it legal. You know what I'm saying? Oh, no, I'm wrong. You're locked up for a federal charge, but they've made it legal in your state. So you're locked up for a federal charge of marijuana, but they've made it legal in the state you're in. Freedom, guys, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Freedom guys, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Freedom guys, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, now you look at Jed. Janet had a titty reveal, and we crucify her for that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Crucified her. And she didn't even rip it out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She actually could have. Me too, Justin. Now that we. If we really want to be honest, we all saw it.

[Andrew Schultz]

How different a time was this. An innocent black woman gets her Clothes

[Charlamagne Tha God]

ripped off in front of millions. In front of millions, hundreds of millions.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you know who we punish? We punish the black one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whoa. Holy.

[Andrew Schultz]

We need to start protecting black women.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Holy.

[Andrew Schultz]

We need to start protecting black women.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Holy.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what we've been doing this episode.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Holy.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what we've been doing this episode.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Holy. Holy shit. Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some fucking bills. Foreign

[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, sir. Let's do some church announcement. Two Chains, man, the voice in my head is God. Will be out March 3, 2026. Man, we coming down to the wire right now. Okay? If you are a 2 Chainz fan, if you love 2 Chainz music, trust me when I tell you that this book right here is his most personal work yet. He's sharing his spiritual journey, the spiritual journey behind his success. And, yeah, I think it's a deeply motivational meditation, I would call it. And just about how, you know, the inner voice in your head that's guided you your whole life is God, you know? So go get my Man 2 chain's book. You can pre order it now, wherever you buy book 2 Chainz, the voice in my head is God. Yes. So go get that. What else we got, Alex? All memes matter. I haven't seen. Oh, Shia LaBeouf. What's up with Shia LaBeouf? Yo?

[Andrew Schultz]

He got. Did he get arrested or some shit?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, he's down in Mardi Gras. Man, I feel sorry for Shia LaBeouf because he got divorced.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, he's 39 years old, and I just heard all of this the day Lauren LaRosa was telling me he got divorced. He's 39 years old. He moved down to New Orleans, and, you know, he's enjoying Mardi Gras this week, but honestly, man, he just really looks like probably how I would look if I ever lost my wife.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like, this shit is not fun, guys. I know y' all think being out in the streets and being outside is cool, but there's nothing like stability. There's nothing like having a foundation. There's nothing like, you know, having a family, man. Like, that's him on the ground. Yes, they beat him up and then like, like, held him there and wouldn't

[Andrew Schultz]

let him move and sued him. After they beat him up, they sued him. Then he's arrested and charged with battery. Barton to say he was terrorizing the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

city says, damn, Shia LaBeouf beating up in Mardi Gras fight. Then arrested in charge of battery. Bartender say he was terrorizing the city. Why don't you go back and dig holes? Yeah, man, I'm telling y', all, yo, if you can. And then. Oh, they said after. After he got beat up, he went to jail. They said when he got out, he was back sitting in a bar, and he was telling the people in the bar, like, man, you know, marriage is hard work. You gotta figure it out. Figure out how to make it work. So that lets me know all I need to know. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's going through it like you got. Listen, man, there's nothing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Protect your home, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's nothing like being in a marriage, bro. A good one. You gotta have a good marriage, though. So I'm not.

[Andrew Schultz]

A good marriage takes work, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good marriage takes work. I'm not mad at him, you know, I don't know what the dynamics of his marriage was. I don't know why they not together no more. All I'm simply saying is once you end up getting divorced and you go back to the streets, you probably end up getting drunk and beat up in Mardi Gras.

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all I'm simply saying. You know, one day I was walking out the radio station. This was years ago. This one we used to station used to be down in Tribeca. And I was walking out the radio station, and, you know, people be down there jogging and shit like that. So this guy jogs by, and then this guy comes jogging back at me real fast. Social Security intervenes. And it was Shy.

[Andrew Schultz]

I remember you telling me this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was Shy.

[Guest or Producer]

Oh, wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

And he said he want to rap for you or something like that, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it wasn't rapping. It wasn't rap. I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but he just said something to the effect of like, I fuck with you. You know, like, you know, that's it. Shy is one of those guys that's woke. Shy completely would understand the boy band theory of the 90s and how it's made guys like Alex gay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Third eye.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

100%. 100%. Females peeing while standing device. What are you studs up to now? You studs. Y', all. Y', all. Y' all stop throwing the green dildos at the WNBA games. We never found out who the fuck the culprits were.

[Andrew Schultz]

How do we not know? They know every person that gets kicked out of the NBA game.

[Guest or Producer]

No, I'm pretty sure they found out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They found out yeah, all of them.

[Guest or Producer]

Because it was around the time all these prediction markets were happening. So then the guys will put up a thing, oh, I wonder if there's going to be another green dildo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And.

[Guest or Producer]

And then they would put mad money on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Also convenient to blame it on guys. Like, guys walking around with scrap ons at WNBA games. Sure. You know what I mean? Yo, like, we don't. Like, we know. Like, we don't know. Y' all have a big stud audience.

[Andrew Schultz]

Imagine, like, you planned on doing it, but you got, like, pulled over or something before you could get to the game. And now you just got to explain this dildo that's just in your car as you're going to a WNBA game.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You didn't see the video that Duvall posted of the person giving a speech, the stud giving a speech, and she didn't know she had her Tilto in her pocket. Look at this shit, man. Life is so funny. That's why I don't even know why y' all try to get on stage and tell jokes like, y' all can't beat real life, bro. You know what I'm saying? You can't beat real life, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Open carry with a dildo is crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Open carry cock is crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah. This.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just walking around with your scrap on your head.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yep. But, like, hanging out of your bubble jacket. You know, she didn't even have it in a case or nothing. That could get dirty. Like, she thinking the subway, it could hit the pole.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See, I would have loved to be there. I'd have been like, you got plans after? Huh? You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Or before.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or before. Let me smell it. Like, the fact that it's. By the way. The way she has it positioned. She just used it.

[Andrew Schultz]

How many uses you think you get after out of a dilly?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, a lot.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, do you. Do you keep your favorite for years?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or is it, like, that's, like, your favorite eater? Yeah. Hell, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But does it groove? Like, do you warm it in?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, like. Like. Or do you wash it after every use? Like, what is the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's like cleaning your gun.

[Andrew Schultz]

I wouldn't clean my gun. Every time I used it, you post to. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got to clean your gun. You got to clean your gun. I'm. I'm sure that they clean. You would clean your. Yeah, you clean your. Your dildo.

[Andrew Schultz]

I. I figured it'd be more like a baseball mitt or something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, nah, nah. Cuz it. You work up way more of an Odor on the dildo than you do the fucking baseball.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the thing. Like, does it capture the odor?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. A strap on.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, man. We gotta get a stud on the show.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, we really need to talk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, yo, serious, all jokes, side all the brilliant idiots. Listeners who are studs, hit us up. Yo, no homo podcast. Hit me up. You know what I'm saying? Let me know, how often do y' all watch y'. All. Then you strap on.

[Guest or Producer]

Then you have flame on. Breakfast Club.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but she don't need a strap.

[Guest or Producer]

Oh, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah. Flame. Flame.

[Guest or Producer]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Flame is with women. Flame sleeps with women.

[Andrew Schultz]

She's crushing box, dude.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Guest or Producer]

I don't get it.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Flame said she over it. She said, I ain't with the trans shit no more.

[Guest or Producer]

But how can you be over it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I said. I was like. I was like. Just because you say you over it don't mean anything. You got titty. Yes. I'll get rid of these. That's what she said. That's what she said, man. That's what she said. What else we got?

[Andrew Schultz]

The context of her saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Does it matter?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, it doesn't. I just need to know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I really don't even remember. MJ is not that. What did they talk about? What are they talking about? Mj?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, why are they trying to slander our boy? Just trying to help a little kid with some ice in his back, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wild angle, though. Got to admit, this was a wild angle.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's one of those things where it's just, like, you kind of let the kid have his ice in his back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got. You got to know. You got to have context. No, no. If that was your kid, it wouldn't be a problem.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it's not your kid exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It just. The optics look crazy. You're the greatest basketball player of all time, one of the most iconic figures that has ever walked the face of the Earth. You just won the Daytona 500 as an owner because you're where God has just blessed you so much. And you just out there looking like you fucking buggling a little kid.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. It's not.

[Guest or Producer]

Do we believe the ice story?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Al, first of all, you think Michael Jordan would be doing this at a time like this, in front of the world to see. This is completely innocent, bro. Cut it out.

[Guest or Producer]

It's the same guy who had a Hitler mustache. Like, he pushed the envelope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what Alex just did, but I don't like It.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's talking about those Hanes commercials where he used to have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I still don't like it. Yeah, I don't like what he did. I don't like. I don't know what you just did.

[Andrew Schultz]

Al, we need the Blue Square commercial from you immediately. You better come with blue nails next week. Al. Al, there are phone calls being made. Al, there are phone calls being made. I didn't do it.

[Guest or Producer]

It was mj.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the fuck does the Hitler mustache got to do with what he was doing right there?

[Guest or Producer]

Yo, I'm just saying, he pushes the envelope. He goes again against what you're supposed to be doing sometimes.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is not pushing the envelope. If he's actually doing that to a child that's diddling a kid.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sick of y' all doing MJ's dirty. Y' all did the same thing to Michael Jackson.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why can't an MJ win, bro?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Why can't they just lead a peaceful life?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can we not? Since all conspiracy theories are being revealed, can we stop with the Michael Jackson was fucking molesting little kid shit?

[Andrew Schultz]

I know. It's.

[Guest or Producer]

I don't think he did that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know he did it. The man was monitored by the FBI for 17 years because he was monitored by the FBI. FBI for 17 years. Okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah. But we can't do this thing where we go, conspiracy theorists are right. And then all of a sudden, oh, wait a minute. We know it's not right because.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it never was. Conspiracy theorists saying it's about mj.

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah, it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it wasn't.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, it was mainstream.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was mainstream.

[Andrew Schultz]

Conspiracy is actually. He never did. And conspiracy theorists are always right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This man owns half of Sony.

[Andrew Schultz]

You gonna go with that one?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm telling you, Sony ATV Publishing, this is a fact. That's why I can't wait till this movie come out. And I hope his movie explores that, because we always talk about these entertainers who, oh, Bill Cosby was about to buy NBC or this. And I'm like, no, that guy really had too much power for an artist,

[Andrew Schultz]

so they had to get him outta here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Amen. Amen. I'm just saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who's they, Charlotte?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know who the fuck they is, but I know if you own half of Sony's publishing and you giving publishing back to the art artist for nothing. Come on, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Alex. Trying to rile shit up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just saying, Alex, you a wild boy. That happened. Alex just asked Chatgpt and it Was Michael Jackson about to put out a song about Palestine? Yes. Back in 1993, Michael Jackson wrote an unreleased song called Palestine Don't Cry that was intended for his History album but was never officially recorded or released. Only the lyrics survived in an auction. Wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who bought it? Look up who bought it. Look up who bought it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sure he had allegations before that.

[Guest or Producer]

No, they started right after that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look it up. Look up the. When was the. When the first time Michael. I don't believe that. When the Michael been to court for shit like. When was the first time Michael Jackson had allegations

[Andrew Schultz]

At Julian's Auction center for about $10,000. But there's no public record of the buyer, who the buyer was. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Jesus.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The first public child sexual abuse seat. Oh. 1993.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, bro.

[Guest or Producer]

Do the math, son.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do the math. Do the math, people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got one.

[Andrew Schultz]

I got one. Charla. We can't be the Tuskegee. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do the bad guys. It's crazy, yo. It's crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, it is. It is very close. It's very close.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

But calm. What is it? Here's my number.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My. Call me. Fy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Call me maybe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn. What else we got out?

[Andrew Schultz]

This one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This got a little.

[Andrew Schultz]

We all got apologies next week.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This got a little too hot, bro. This got a little too hot. A little too hot. What else we got out? What's learning the love? Alex. What's learning the love? What is learning the love? My guy. Guy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, here we go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Social media is torn. Let me stop for a second. Read the headline. Social media is torn after Clifton Powell says he is just now learning the love at nearly 70, citing limited examples. Go back, let's hear it again. Just talking about. I'm 70 years old, so I come from a whole another era than any you negroes is talking about. And what I've learned.

[Guest or Producer]

Learn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I'm not saying I'm right. I think everybody is right because there's so many levels to this. But most of this was laid on our parents. Parents? Parents. Yeah. My father was born in 1915 and his parents were slaves. Well, his grandparents were slaves. So what I've learned is it's not your mother's fault. It's not your father's fault. It's not your fault. Fault. We were born into 450 years of post slavery PSA, PTSD. I am 69. Be 70 in March. I've just learned how to love. Our parents didn't know how to love. Their parents didn't know how to Love. And if I could say anybody maybe had an edge, it was the women. That's why I celebrate Black women.

[Guest or Producer]

I just want to talk about. And Luke. Make sure I say the name right. Crop this part out. Okay. What Luke brought up was like, accountability. Like, yes, we can talk about, you know, what our families did to us, all this, all that. But eventually. And I know why people try and say this, and I really don't like that. But eventually it comes a point where you have to decide, how do I want to live my life? I haven't talked to my daddy in six years. I don't give a about what my family has gone through. I know where I will go. So it's like, you know, you can only say that for so long. Black women are tired and, you know, kind of like putting onto them, like, hey, like, you didn't do this entirely. Because everybody in here, several people have talked about, like, you know, going to counseling. Have that upon yourself. Stop waiting for a woman to tell you what you need to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Take that up. Let me address that real quickly. For me, I didn't know that. I didn't know fucking how to lie.

[Guest or Producer]

Can I say one more thing? No, no, no. I have to say this. Cause another thing that happens is too. You live your life for so long, and I'm not meaning no disrespect by that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry, Just say it, bro.

[Guest or Producer]

But when you hit your six, your 70s, I want to be right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, but let me.

[Guest or Producer]

I want to live my life right. I want someone to take care of me and protect me. That's what a lot of women have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Living it right the now. As I said. Listen, I said 60. Good. But you're not going to disrespect.

[Guest or Producer]

Oh, I am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just.

[Andrew Schultz]

I do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't know what the you talking about.

[Guest or Producer]

I don't.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't.

[Guest or Producer]

I do.

I'm good.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't tell me I'm living. I'm living it right now. You cannot fix no that. You don't even know what's happening. I think there's a misunderstanding. Let me stop. This is what it is. Let's get to the truth.

[Andrew Schultz]

You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't fix unless you meet somebody who help is on another level to help you elevate, to understand. I even.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just. I'm not indicting anybody. I'm telling you what this is. You can't fix some that you don't know about, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, you can't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then you get there at 69 or 70 and say, I thought I was being loving all the time. That's what our parents have gone to. And that's why we also represent. You asked, how do we love black women? That's right here.

[Andrew Schultz]

Trust black women.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, listen, first of all, I got a number of thoughts. First of all, Clifton Powell looks amazing to be almost 70 years old. Yeah. God damn. I did not know Clifton Powell was almost 70 years old. That's number one. Number two, this is going to sound completely contradictory. I'm so sick of cameras and talking.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People cannot have real, honest conversations as long as the cameras are rolling if everybody's so performative. Exactly, man. Like, there's Clifton Powell. Just to me, when I'm listening to him talk in the beginning, I'm just like, damn, I want to learn more. I want to hear more. Right? Because what he's saying is true, and that's his experience. And I got mad older men in my life. My daddy is one of them, you know what I'm saying? Who would absolutely, positively agree with Clifton Powell. Or he would say that at some point in his life, you know, he had love the way he wanted it, and he fucked it up. You know what I'm saying? Even though he ended up getting married again, he's got a new wife and everything. But my point is, how can you listen to him, right? And instead of just listening to that brother and listening to what he said and either learning something from what he said or offering him something, right? Which is, man, that's why therapy is so important, man. You know what I'm saying? That's why your first, last, and best love is self love, right? Like, that's why, you know, I'm blessed to be in the position that I'm in where I've done the work on myself at a young age, and I have a beautiful wife and I have a beautiful kid. Cause I don't want that at 78. I'm glad I know what love is. And I've experienced love. How do you not take that in and receive that? But then you start speaking for a demographic of people that you're not even,

[Andrew Schultz]

oh, is he gay? No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what the other guy is. But I'm saying he started speaking for black women. There's no black women at this table.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How can he speak for what black women are feeling and experiencing to Clifton Powell in that moment? Why did that turn into that is what I'm saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I think he was also speaking for people who are 60 and 70, which is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think I can't relate. All I can say to myself is, man, I'm glad that I've experienced love at a very young age. Cause I don't want to be 70 years old. And Clifton is saying he thought he knew what love was, but he's realizing, no, what I was doing clearly wasn't love. I don't know how that turns into a Black women are tired. Like, you're not even a black woman. There's no black woman at the table.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you think he felt the need to defend right there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. That's my point. I ain't even hear Clifton say anything about black women. And by the way, this is just a clip, so I don't know. But based off this clip, I didn't hear him saying anything about it. He's speaking from his personal experience and the fact that he has never, you know, properly known how to love. Or maybe he never thought he experienced love the way that, you know, he should have. I don't understand why that was the reaction from the other guy. And I don't think it would have been a reaction like that if these cameras weren't around. If it was just Clifton and him having a OG to young man conversation, I don't think he. This guy acts like that, like, when we're regular. Talk. Let me say something. Let me say something. Like, nobody talks like that in regular conversation, yo. Yeah, unless you all get what you want me. That's different. Women would never let you get away. Can I say something now? Can I say something? That was. That was. That was wild to me. I didn't. I don't understand that. Am I missing something?

[Guest or Producer]

Think Backstreet Boys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What else we got? What else? What else we got, man? What else we got? You want to do some asking?

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's do some asking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Idiots. Did we pay all the bills, man?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, no, we got. We got to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

Is that a conspiracy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta show me. Cause I've never heard of such a thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Release the files, Steve.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Steve, you just gotta show me.

[Andrew Schultz]

Release the files, Steve.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta show me. I fuck with these glasses. I have no problem wearing these. You will see me with these on this summer. But these are really dope. But I don't believe that you was baking in the oven, Steve.

[Andrew Schultz]

Those are kind of fun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe he was baking, eating

[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's do some asking idiots. Oh, you know we got to correct ourselves. Last week I forgot what the hell we was talking about. But we were talking about something and we said that Epstein got convicted it under Obama. I got arrested under Obama.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think Obama was in office. But the person appointed was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We said 08, though. 08. Obama wasn't in office yet.

[Andrew Schultz]

He gets an office in 09.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

09.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, so Alex Acosta was the person that did it, so. Yes, it was under Bush.

[Guest or Producer]

Under Bush, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, that is correct.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Correction, because I saw Jake Tapper scorch this dude.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was the same thing because the guy was like. Like, who was. When he got arrested, who was in office? It was.08. And you said Obama and Jake Tappy was like. No, it was Bush.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I saw that shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But remember, there was a plea deal that was struck in 2009, way before I was in office, way before Trump was even considering to be in office, way before Pam Bonney was office, way before Cash Patel was director. 2009, there was a sweetheart plea deal that was made underneath the Obama administration with Epstein. And that sweetheart has not been exposed. No, it was 2000. Well, when was he third? It was 2008. The U.S. attorney at the time was a guy named Alex Acosta. He was a Bush appointee. He went on to become President Trump's Secretary of Labor. It all took place in 2008. Who was in office at the time? 2008? George W. Bush was. Who was in office at the time? George W. Bush. No, 2009 is when the case came out and it was. Obama was in office at the time. It's not true.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's not put that on Obama's name.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

J. Cole album. Oh, wait, you know, did you like anybody here listen to J. Cole album?

[Guest or Producer]

I haven't finished. It's. It's kind of long.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

24 songs. Yes, it is kind of long.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow. It's.

[Guest or Producer]

What'd you thought of it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that it's. I think it's classic J. Cole. Meaning that, like, I. I have nothing to dislike about J. Cole. Like, J. Cole is a good artist. I just don't. He's not. He's just not. He's just not Drake or Kendrick. And I know we shouldn't compare them, but when you talking about the greatest of a generation and you're talking about like elite level talent, he's a great rapper.

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's just not an elite level artist like a Kendrick, and he's not an elite level songwriter like a Drake. He's not. I mean, honestly, when you talk about just music, he's not. He don't make. He don't make music as good as Future. I'm just talking about songs. Yeah, I'm just talking about songs. Like, I think that his songs leave a lot to be desired. When he hits it. He hits it. Like when you know a record like Safety, right? But then even in a song like that, I don't need a boosie sample in Safety. I don't need boosie saying, you want to set it up. You want to talk shit. I don't need J. Cole flipping other people hooks like JLo, Jenny from the Block and shit like that. And I don't need to hear Elevators in the middle of the song. Like, his songwriting, to me, his songwriting, when he creates the songs around whatever his bars are, always leaves a lot to be desired to be.

[Guest or Producer]

To me, this is like an older Kendrick album. Because Kendrick's last album was more, I would say, in the style of Drake, where it's like, he's giving you a lot of hits on the album.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Which album you talking about?

[Guest or Producer]

The very last one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gnx. Yeah, it's slaps.

[Guest or Producer]

That's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's like. It's like never made nothing that good.

[Guest or Producer]

It's a lot of hits. But, like, older Kendrick albums were like, a whole story. And you have to, like, follow it through the whole story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like with better songs, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

True.

[Guest or Producer]

But J. Cole's right now. It was like a nice story, but. But there's no really, like, slapping. I don't really want to go back and listen to it again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It wasn't bad. I love that he leans into Fayetteville. So heavy. Like, I love when people represent where they're from. Like, I love, like, how we love Bad Bunny for his super bowl show. Cause he completely leaned into his Puerto Ricanness. It's the same thing with J. Cole. I love him leaning into, you know, being from Fayetteville, but It's just like 29 and 39. Cause, you know, one disc represents his life at 29, another represents it at 39. It's like, I've been hearing the same thing from him for, like, the last decade. Like, we know you're the first rapper out of Fayetteville. We know you left Fayetteville to go to New York to become a rapper. We know you've had problems with infidelity. Haven't we all as men? But once you hear that once or twice, it's like, you know what J. Cole needs to do? He needs to do some deeper work on himself. And I don't know the brother personally, but you can tell that Kendrick has done some deep, deep, deep soul spiritual work on himself. You can tell he's done, you know, a lot of therapy, and he has a different level of self. Awareness. And it reflects in his music, you know, like with Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers. You know what I mean? Even on gnx, like, it reflects in his music. Like, you can hear the deep inner work that he's done with himself. That's what. I don't think J. Cole has done that. I feel like a lot of his stuff still scratches the surface. Like, he don't go deeper. Deeper than just, like, the surface and who he is.

[Guest or Producer]

To me, I don't. I don't feel that music always has to do that because Drake doesn't let me scratch the surface. But he still puts out songs that I want to replay over because it just sounds good. This one, the mixtape he put out the week prior was way better than the album, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That mixtape? Yeah. Cause of the production. Yeah, because of the production. And he's rapping on it. Yeah. You're hearing his thoughts now. Like, I don't know. I have no reason to dislike J. Cole, and I don't like J. Cole.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's good. Yeah, he's good. He's like. It's. It's very ironic that he's driving around in a Honda right now, because if I had to compare his raps to something, it would be a Honda. A Honda's a good car. I've had two of them in my life. Good car.

[Andrew Schultz]

Reliable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Reliable. Lot of longevity.

[Guest or Producer]

Is he really driving around in the Honda?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean. I mean, that's part of the promo. I mean, I don't know. But, like, Honda's a great car. Honda is a good. There's nothing wrong with a Honda whatsoever. And Hondas have been around for a long time. They stood the test of time. So will J. Cole and his bars. But it's just. I'm telling. It's just something incomplete with the way he writes songs. Like, that's just. That's. That. That's just it. But, I mean, I. The album's cool. I wish it was less than 24 songs.

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think 24 songs is a lot for J. Cole. I think that there's a really classic album within that 24 songs. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Advantageous to put more songs on an album.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. Maybe in this era of screaming.

[Guest or Producer]

I don't know if they're streaming, but he doesn't seem like the type of

[Andrew Schultz]

artist that really like, tries to game streaming or anything. Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know. I haven't listened.

[Guest or Producer]

I think he wanted. He wanted to put out a Double disc that was going to be a classic. And I think he might have missed it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was he missed because there's too many songs?

[Guest or Producer]

No, but a double disc, like, nobody's saying that about. About Life After Death.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause it's classic.

[Guest or Producer]

But that's what I'm saying. Like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's what I mean. Oh, you're right. I mean, but it's just. Yeah, you're right. I just don't. I'm not a. I'm not a fan of J. Cole's songwriting ability. Whoever he was with with Forest Hill Drive had him writing great songs.

[Guest or Producer]

That was. That's my favorite.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't really hear that before. Far as He'll Drive. And I've heard that, you know, ever so often after. That's all. Cause he got some cool records on this project. Like, he does feature.

[Guest or Producer]

He smokes those shits.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I mean. Shout Out.

[Guest or Producer]

Yo, the DJ Vlad thing, huh? What are your thoughts on that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See, here's my problem. I'm always. I pay too much attention. So I've.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's so obviously sarcasm. Yes. I couldn't believe anybody took it serious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I've seen Vlad do this.

[Guest or Producer]

So many people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Vlad has been doing this. Vlad has been doing this with Tory Lanez for years. Since the Tory Lanez. Like, after Tory Lanez got convicted and all the evidence came about. Vlad has been doing this to Tory Lanez fans for years. And it's so obviously sarcasm. Like, pull up some of the tweets, man. Before we do some asking.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is it maybe weird? Because Vlad will also post news as a source of news. So are there some.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But Vlad also trolls.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know this. I saw it, and I was like, oh, this is hilarious. He's obviously being sarcastic. But are there some people that are seeing it and they want these things to be true?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's exactly what it is, man. But don't do that at the. Don't risk your own credibility by calling

[Andrew Schultz]

out Vlad or Vlad doing it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. If you're a person who doesn't like Jay Z, doesn't like Roc Nation.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ah, yes, yes, yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't risk your own credibility.

[Andrew Schultz]

Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Acting like what Vlad said is real.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. It's like you're almost happy that these

[Charlamagne Tha God]

things, like, make that. Let me put these Dylan shades on so I can read this. Okay. Vlad said, I have a confession. Roc Nation has been paying me to support Megan. Okay. All right. I'm just doing straight hypothetical hyperbole, you know? And what could be true and what couldn't be true? Number one, I know this isn't true, but this is a realistic one, right?

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Roc Nation has been paying me to support Megan. It's not true, but I'm just saying, if I was reading this, he opens up with. He opens up with something that, okay, could be be true. They also paid off all the jury members. The convictory.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Far fetched. But more believable than what we about to get to, right? And they bribed the judge too. Jay Z did a verse for his grandson's new album. This right here is when you should realize. Okay, he bullshitting me.

[Andrew Schultz]

Got it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There should be nothing else to read unless you're just reading it for entertainment purposes. They paid off Megan's doctor. The lie about the bullet fragments. She was never shot. Come on, my guys, that's like clear sarcasm. The LA police are all on Jay's payroll. And it doesn't stop with la. But you're not ready to hear that part.

[Guest or Producer]

That shit is hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, man. The Mexican guy who stabbed Tory, who do you think paid him to do that? You already know the answer. Yes, maga. Who else would want to frame a Mexican at a time like this? You think Jay Z would want to frame a Mexican? The three Supreme Court judges who denied Tory's appeal all paid off by the rock mafia. The fact, listen, don't get me wrong, Roc Nation gets a lot of paper, but come on, guys. Come on, man. Paying off three Supreme Court judges type money. Jay also paid Trump not to pardon Tory, even though it's a state case. Trump can only pardon federal cases. But knowing Trump likes to bend the rules, Jay wasn't taking any chances. I can't keep these lies secret anymore. If this is my last tweet, you know who's silent. I don't know what to tell you. If you believe this, the very last

[Guest or Producer]

line, I can't keep these lies secret.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hilarious, Hilarious, hilarious. That's me when I say trust me, even though I'm lying. Shut up. Remember when we did that on the pod?

[Andrew Schultz]

14 million views.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

14 million views. People doing whole YouTube think pieces like, come on, man, listen, don't ruin your own credibility just because you hate Jay Z and Roc Nation. Like, come on, bro. And by the way, once again, Vlad does this all the time. I've seen Vlad troll Tory fans and Tory supporters like this multiple times.

[Guest or Producer]

I love a good troll, but I think it's in bad taste because this is going to bring so much problems to Meg, it's going to bring problems to Jay, like just unnecessary noise that they don't need right now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, no, it's going to bring unnecessary problems to the people who continue to, you know, lie and spread these narratives.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. That's who is gonna bring in the unnecessary problems.

[Guest or Producer]

Meg wants to put this shit behind her, and now every time something like this happens, now she's gotta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All she gotta do is turn her phone off. All she gotta do is turn her phone off. I promise you, there's gonna be more problems for the people who continue to lie and spread these false narratives than it is the people that they talking about. You know, don't bark up that tree. That tree will fall on you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ask an idiot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ask an idiot. Underscore. Taps underscore. If you can decide where your taxes go, what infrastructure or department would you support? Fantastic question. Fantastic question. I think about this all the time because literally, that's what I would like to do. I have no problem paying my fair share of taxes. You see, your boy Mandani Mondani is like, yo, the richies have got to pay their fair share of taxes. Taxes. We're gonna have to start. We're gonna have to increase the property taxes on people.

[Andrew Schultz]

But what will that effectively do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hurt the people who are already hurting.

[Andrew Schultz]

And he's aware of that. He knows that. But he can't control taxes because that's done up in Albany, which was always the criticism of, I think, part of his approach, at least, which is, if you're promising a raise in taxes on the wealthiest people but you don't have the ability to do it, how will you generate the revenue you need to do these social programs that are incredibly appealing to so many New Yorkers? And the issue here is we're going to raise property taxes. So the initial thought is, well, rich people own property, so that's just going to punish them. And most people are okay with that. The problem is that anybody who owns property and rents it out, if they get an increase in their property tax, that will be reflected in the rent.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And again, he can freeze rent for rent stabilized units, but that's only half the units in the city. So then the other half. Half are going to. If he is even able to freeze the rents, because I don't know if he has all the people on the board just yet that allow him to do it. I think they tried to stack the board before Adams got out.

[Guest or Producer]

Two people in right for you.

[Andrew Schultz]

So it's a very tricky situation. And this happens to politicians where you can make promises on the way in and want to deliver those promises. But then when you're hit with the bureaucracy in front of you, you aren't able to execute those things and people will be very upset, I imagine if they voted for him because they wanted rent to decrease and now they're seeing an increase is the only way to balance the budget.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I didn't like that. I didn't like, you know, Governor Hoco had been said that she wasn't going to tax the rich. My thing is just because the rich don't want to pay their fair share in taxes, that doesn't mean that you should increase people's property tax, bro. Especially because where's all this money going from all these tolls and shit like that? All this congestion pricing and all of this shit like that. That, like where's all that money going? Even the money that they making, parking tickets and fines and all of that. You can't sit here and tell me that the city of New York isn't making so much extra cash that they got to increase people's property tax.

[Guest or Producer]

This is the thing, this is the balance of budget. This is not even to enact the social programs that he wants to put in place.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, I thought those social programs are included in the budget.

[Guest or Producer]

No, like this is just to balance the budget that's coming in 2020.

[Andrew Schultz]

The free.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but it's, it's like how about, you know, cut some of these bloated budgets that we have in the city, like to the police force. I've always said the reason that's the

[Guest or Producer]

problem, once you start cutting money from other people like now, you're creating enemies.

[Andrew Schultz]

The last thing you want to do is cut the police force right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't say cut the police force, I say cut the budget. And I'll tell you why the money ain't going into police officers pockets. If you told me right now that that money, those hundreds of millions of dollars that they spend to militarize these police departments was going in the police officer's pockets. If you're going to increase the salary of police officers, by all means do your thing. So that's not happening.

[Guest or Producer]

Well, what do you think is going

[Andrew Schultz]

to happen if they cut the budget?

[Guest or Producer]

Exactly.

[Andrew Schultz]

That the money will be cut from the police officers. Naturally.

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cut the budget. Fucking police officers don't need tanks in New York City.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't want New York City.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't need robots in New York.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't want New York City.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're not wrong.

[Guest or Producer]

But you don't want, you don't want

[Andrew Schultz]

New York City to not be A safe place.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

New York is safe.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't need. Well, because it's an incredibly high budget for the police force.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Most of the stuff they have, they don't even use.

[Guest or Producer]

Charlotte, I'm telling you, during.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'd rather the money go into police officer's pockets.

[Guest or Producer]

Well, I think during all the time when everybody was riding and all that type of stuff and everybody was saying, fuck nypd. NYPD went on about like two months of just not enforcing the law.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then they said immediately, once again,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm glad you said that. Yep, two months of not enforcing the law. They just stopped. They didn't need robot dogs.

[Andrew Schultz]

But that's what I'm saying. But that's not what it's about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They just stop. All I'm saying is you don't to have. Have to spend all of that money on unnecessary stuff for the police officers. If you're telling me that you're increasing the salaries of police, I ain't got no problem with it. But militarizing the police, buying all of this shit that they don't even fucking need. Those are bloated budgets.

[Guest or Producer]

You're not wrong. But they'll say like, oh, shit, they cut the budget. Overtime and we got to cut over time.

[Andrew Schultz]

We got to stop hiring.

[Guest or Producer]

Freeze.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you're saying this right here is not including the programs that he has.

[Guest or Producer]

Not yet. He's not trying to do those yet. The only one he's trying to do is the daycare. Daycare.

[Andrew Schultz]

And that got approved.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That got approved.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right.

[Guest or Producer]

But he already found a way to balance that, like, you know, put things into effect.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One of the dopest things he used to say before he was campaigning for mayor. I don't even know if he was running for mayor when he would say this. When he would say. He would say. He would say don't. He would say. He would say defund the police, Which I never agreed with that, that, that, that statement. But he would say refund. So he was like. He would say, it's not about defunding police, it's about refunding funding social services, meaning putting money into these social. Absolutely.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. But you have to understand. Absolutely. If there's a person that is. Has mental health issues on the street and that person is acting in a violent manner. You don't want a mental health professional going there. You want someone that actually has tactical training on how to deal with a violent person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I want both.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, yes, you could have both, but the person that is there and restraining that person should be able to Deal with violent people. They shouldn't be like a social worker who's like, tell me about your feelings. Feelings. A social worker is going to be very helpful. And don't get me wrong, I think that far too often we're putting people who have mental health issues under the jurisdiction of police.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think police shouldn't criminalize mental health issues.

[Andrew Schultz]

Of course, of course. Now if people are doing criminal acts, we have to find a place to put them. Right? We have to find a place to put them where they're not in danger to other people around them they might not be aware of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What, the psych ward?

[Andrew Schultz]

Of course not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jail?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, of course, of course. I think there is. I get the problem that I'm trying to say here is that like, far too often police are the, like the last stop. So that's like the end all be all for all the problems, right? If you have a crazy person on the street that has a knife and is trying to stab people, right? They're like, okay, police, go get it. If there's a cat in a tree, police go get it. But the mental health issue is, police, go get it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because if a person has a knife, you don't know if they have a mental health issue. Like, you might see a person with a knife while in the street, not realizing they got schizophrenia, not realizing they got bipolar. And they have.

[Andrew Schultz]

In that moment when somebody has a knife and they're attacking another person, it doesn't really matter what mental health issues are. You need somebody that knows and is trained in how to stop them and keep the public safe. I think most people would agree with that. I don't think Donnie would disagree with that. I. I agree.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a number in New York, though, that you call.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's. It's another organization that goes out and I think them police come to back them up.

[Andrew Schultz]

I. They just need support is what I'm trying to say.

[Guest or Producer]

And so look, support is money, guys.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. So there's no. Look, the reality of the matter is

[Charlamagne Tha God]

no problem with money going to. Stuff like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nobody is going to say it, but the reality of the matter is, is, is they can talk all they want about increasing taxes. We've been saying this for a while. Increasing taxes on. On the rich. If they're not taxing the people who really are rich. I'm not talking about doctors, wealthy people. I'm talking about the people that exist outside of the taxation system. If they don't have a way to tax them, they're not going to get access to the billionaires. You can say all you want about, hey, we need to tax the billionaires, but if you don't have a way to effectively tax them because there are so many loopholes for them to avoid taxation, you're just using billionaire as a term. And then that tax ends up going on doctors, it ends up going on lawyers, it ends up going on all these other people, which, sure, they can contribute more, but should middle class people, upper middle class and like whatever rich people pay the taxes for the billionaires who find ways to skirt them?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

They should contribute just like everybody else.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right. And the system currently is set up by those people so that they don't. So for me, when I hear somebody talking about taxing people or taxing the wealthy or taxing however you want, I would really like them to have a prescriptive way to tax those people that can avoid those taxes very easily.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go start with the billionaires and these motherfucking corporations who ain't paying no goddamn taxes.

[Andrew Schultz]

People on the Epstein list.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? Like, why don't we look at it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They don't even need their money no more.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. Like, let's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're right.

[Andrew Schultz]

You already rigging the system so you can make money and that you can, you know, short stocks and you can, you know, short futures for all these because you have insider knowledge. You're connected with these people from other countries and you know things that those countries are going to do before it already happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Against or bet with the current or whatever it is so you can exploit these horrendous situations around the world and you don't pay taxes at home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

And we got to pay taxes for you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You should want to do that for your soul, you know, you going to hell. The least you should do is pay your motherfucking taxes so some of these social programs will be funded.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why would they? Their whole life is built on the exploitation of people. Why would they not just keep on exploiting class and poor people if they're already doing that to profit around the world? Why would they not do that at home as well?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna tell you something. You're absolutely right. And I really think.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I just say one thing not to interrupt you. There isn't a soul in New York that would be against that. There isn't a soul in New York, left or right, that wouldn't be against making sure people, the Epstein class, the billionaires, whatever you want to call them, are paying their fair share and they can Speak all they want about, oh, we create this many jobs and oh, we're donating this much to charity. Yeah, sure. Are you finding ways where you don't have to pay any income tax? Yes, you are and you shouldn't. And you're cheating the people and you're exploiting hardworking people in the process and you should absolutely pay. And if that's the process and if that's what he's coming out and saying, do you know how many people would support that around the country? There'd be other people around the country going, I sure as hell wish my mayor would say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I haven't heard him. I haven't. I'm not going to sit here and act like I've heard all of his rhetoric around this. But if his rhetoric around this is like, not, don't just say the wealthy. Don't just say you want to tax the rich, like to that point, tax the big corporate billionaires who aren't paying no taxes. Name names. How about this?

[Andrew Schultz]

Tax the rich. Tax. Tax the rich. Tax the rich more if you want to increase taxes. If you really think that that will help middle class and poor people, I'm all for that. How about the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait a minute.

[Andrew Schultz]

But you better make sure that the Epstein class of people is taxed as well. Don't. Don't do the thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

69% percent. 69%, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tax.

[Guest or Producer]

What? 69%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The FC class.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, they owe us for years. No, no, but whatever number you want to come up with. My point is that don't posit these ideas that, you know, aren't going to impact the people that you say you're talking about, which are the billionaire class of people. There's nobody that gets paid a billion dollars a year in income is the point right now. Right. Like all these guys, the, the Steve Jobs was making a dollar a year at Apple and he was just getting paid in Apple stock. Right. Like these gu make income. So you can talk all you want about income tax, but if you actually want to tax the epine class, you're going to have to find a different way to do it. Everybody would be supportive of it. There's not a single American outside of that little group that wouldn't go, that sounds like a fantastic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, they're the ones that's opposed to it now, which is why it never happens.

[Andrew Schultz]

There we go. Now we're learning how the world works.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it just really, it really is up when we act like that is a, an equivalency. Right. Like, well, if we can't tax the world, wealthy would have to raise property taxes. No.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is this crazy?

[Guest or Producer]

Taxing a portion of your net worth? So then you can't do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, because net worth ain't real and

[Guest or Producer]

you can't do any loopholes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Net worth isn't real.

[Andrew Schultz]

How about, how about start with this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How about net worth isn't real though?

[Andrew Schultz]

Sure, sure. Because that fluctuates with the, the value of, of the stocks that you own and all these different things. How about this one? If you are taking out loans against your stock. Stock, right. Which a lot of people do, so they don't have to affect the capital and loans are tax free. If you're taking out loans against your stock, you should have to pay whatever the tax rate is for that amount of money as if it's income. If you're using your stock as collateral for this loan, then you have to pay the tax. A tax. Now what will happen is most people go, well, I'm not going to take a loan out here and then have to give half of it to the government. Then I get the 50% of the loan. So then what you'll have to do, which is what everybody else has to do do, is decide to either utilize the money that's coming in as income or sell similar stocks so you can pay off things. That's what normal human beings have to do and they get to operate outside the system. And that is effectively it's, it's not, I guess you would say it's not like unfair because it is the code and is the system that everybody lives within. But it puts them in a super advantageous situation. The wealthiest people already in a more advantageous situation to continue to expand their wealth. If he posts, if he puts something out there like this, I can't found there wouldn't be unanimous support. I really can't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you think that they should tax the revenue companies make or tax the money that they report?

[Andrew Schultz]

So now you're in a tricky situation

[Guest or Producer]

because they don't report it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, no, it's not about reports. Like revenue is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Revenue is what you make. But then like a company profit, like for example, Apple, you can't, you can't

[Andrew Schultz]

tax revenue because that's going to crush a mom and pop business. That's going to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, I'm talking about these corporations because think about a company like Apple. Apple made over $400 billion last year and I think their profit was over a hundred billion.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like I think that you should tax that you don't think like are you

[Guest or Producer]

sure that profit was 100?

[Andrew Schultz]

You pay corporate taxes?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. They're pro homie looking.

[Andrew Schultz]

They find ways to offset their ways

[Guest or Producer]

to offset their profit. Yeah, they always save like Amazon always says. Oh we, we had a loss this year.

[Andrew Schultz]

Again, my concern is Apple.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh see that's even crazy. Apple Inc. Reported for its 2025 fiscal year about 416 billion. So that's the total amount of money Apple made from selling products and services before expenses. The net income profit was 112 billion. This is the profit Apple kept after subtracting cost, taxes and expenses. You're not paying no fucking taxes. Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying? So.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well I don't think you can my concern about taxing people who are just on revenue. Revenue. And clearly there are ways corporations though not corporations but I mean like when a mom and pop store opens they incorporate. Right. Because it's advantageous to incorporate. When you have a small business like WTF Studios it's going to be harder for those businesses to grow. And now you're going to actually put the big corporations in a more advantageous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well I'm talking about the wealthiest amongst us. I ain't talking about the mom and pop. I'm talking about the people we're talking about right now. These huge corporations who don't pay their fair share in taxes already.

[Andrew Schultz]

My feeling is like tax the individuals. Individuals like cuz the end they're obviously making money and there's ways to hide it. Say again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hit Tim cook up.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hit them all up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But they make their money off Apple. They're able to hide their money and not pay these taxes and report what they want because they're fi. They're hiding behind these businesses take a

[Guest or Producer]

loan off of their stocks. So it's like that's why it doesn't come up as income because it's a loan. And then they just live off that loan because oh,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

not living right. You think you're in the files.

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah, it's good. All right. But then so yeah, so that money isn't alone but the money that they have in the stock market make money. So now whatever the interest rate they still made money on top of that. So it's like they're living odd free money pretty much and paying tax these

[Charlamagne Tha God]

man, listen, but that's.

[Andrew Schultz]

They should find someone way smarter than us. They should find someone way smarter than

[Charlamagne Tha God]

us to figure out what doing. We're saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All we're saying is tax is wealth, do it fairly. And to the guy's earlier point, I would have. I have. I have no problem spending. You know, I pay my taxes, of course, but I would love to know exactly where my tax dollars are going. I would love to be able to choose where my tax dollars go.

[Guest or Producer]

You're Mr. 200 Million. You gotta find ways to not pay taxes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why people keep saying that. Can I say something real quick? Just hypothetically? Right? Just hypothetically. I just want y' all to know, when people hear numbers suck. Who cares about numbers? What do I mean? Use them. But people talk about numbers, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whatever you hear, always remember that is half of whatever you hear. So first there's taxes.

[Guest or Producer]

First they tell us men lie, women lie, numbers don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now we gotta how the numbers, they tell the truth. Now, numbers don't lie, but there's nuanced in numbers. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, let's just use. Who's the last basketball player to get a big contract?

[Andrew Schultz]

Charlotte.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God. All right, so let's just say somebody just signed a max deal. I'm just gonna say. I'm say somebody signed a max deal and say it's $100 million, right? Depending what state they're in. They're not in Florida, they're not in Texas. 40% straight taxes, right? Then you got agents, then you got managers, then you got lawyers. So I know it sounds good to just throw out a number, but there's a lot of individuals that get paid. But one thing you will never hear me say is hundred million dollars ain't no money. I'll never say no shit like that, okay? I will never be like any of these athletes or any of these people you see on these platforms who say things like that. Such and such ain't no money.

[Andrew Schultz]

Guys, I think we owe Charlamagne an apology. Here we were, here we were thinking he made a lot of money. Turns out he only made 100 million.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't say anything. I ain't say none of that.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, you're right. We. I think the Internet needs to apologize for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not going to ever be the person.

[Andrew Schultz]

He barely made any money. We're not talking about you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We talking about real rich people.

[Andrew Schultz]

He had to pay taxes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He ain't seen nothing after that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can't even go to Angella no more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But isn't that the reality of life? By the way, the Forbes magazine is actually on newsstands right now. The company? No. The print.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, you ain't shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, the print is on. The print is on newsstands right now. The digital. It was the digital that came out and just said the print.

[Andrew Schultz]

They gonna come after you, dog.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, I take care of mine. I take care of people. I show a lot of people love, by the way. All I'm simply telling you is the reality of life is I don't know why everybody else would lie to people, but the reality of life is when you see certain numbers automatically. No. Know that it's a lot of places that money goes, and a lot. Most of it is to the irs. If you're doing it right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, no, no, if you. If you're being honest, most of it. If you're being honest, if you're being dishonest. So a person in your situation, like one of these guys of the Epstein class of people, they would find a way to hide that money. They would find a way in tax loopholes to not pay any of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And what they do is they create certain tax loopholes to incentivize investment in certain companies where you don't have to pay taxes. So then there are these guys that make these massive, massive payouts when a company goes public, whatever, and they don't have to contribute anything in tax because they invested in this, this startup before it was valued at $50 million. Therefore, there's no taxation on the exit. There's all these like, peculiar little rules that benefit people and not the rest of us. And it's probably infuriating. And that's not Charlamagne. He's broke like the rest of us. You know, he's in that Charlemagne makes between like $50,100 million. So like there. You know what I mean? Like, we got to feel bad for

[Charlamagne Tha God]

him, you know, first of all, I'm going tell you something. I'm going tell you why. I'mma tell you. I'm going tell you why. I despise words like broke. I'm so rich in spirit. Like God is so wicked.

[Andrew Schultz]

End the podcast. I hope they tax his spirit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sorry, listen. So I'm so rich in spirit.

[Andrew Schultz]

I hope Mom Donnie with me. I don't even live Donnie's. I. Tony, the budget needs to be balanced. Taxes spirituality. Right now there is 20% on child based spirituality.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lives in New York City. Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Jersey come from.

[Guest or Producer]

They got to raise that toll.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I work in New York, though. I work in New York.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, that's right, you work here. So you got to pay money on the. You pay tax money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I pay New York City taxes a lot in New York. City taxes.

[Andrew Schultz]

There we go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I paid a lot in New York city taxes for 15 years.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now, as you should, contributing to this great city.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have no problem with it. New York has been great to me, okay? I drive in the city sometime and turn on Empire State of Mind just because I love it. Okay? That shit slaps. All right? I love New York City. New York City. They say if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere. I. I'm sure that's the case. I don't know any other experience. Hey, guys, I can only tell you my life. I don't know any other experience. Andrew, did you make it here?

[Andrew Schultz]

I would say your life is the opposite.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why?

[Andrew Schultz]

Because you made it nowhere else until you made it in New York.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You right. I mean, listen. No, you're right.

[Andrew Schultz]

I got fired from every other job

[Charlamagne Tha God]

and then New York. That's right. You know what?

[Andrew Schultz]

This guy's talented.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I, you know, started in South Carolina.

[Andrew Schultz]

Started from New York, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Started in South Carolina. He's like, you know what? I'm gonna take you to New York for a little bit. You gonna sit here with one of the greatest radio personalities of all time. You're gonna sit here for a few years. Then I'm gonna take you to this hard nosed city called Philly, where they'll boo the shit out of you, come shoot you at the radio station if they want to. And then I'm gonna bring you back to New York City so you can do what you know you need needs to be done.

[Andrew Schultz]

Look at God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look at fucking God. New York City has been great too.

[Andrew Schultz]

Greatest city in the world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, greatest city in the world. I have no reason to just dispute that. I would look like a complete hypocrite.

[Andrew Schultz]

Also, you don't have any property here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

None. So I own property in Jersey. Yeah, but I pay a lot of taxes here, though. I pay a lot of taxes.

[Andrew Schultz]

They just hired a. They just elected a progressive in Jersey, didn't they?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Governor, Sheriff?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, there's another person that just won an election in Jersey. I don't know no different one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. Here's the crazy thing about New York City. My New York City will always be a part of my story.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's. It's like. It's like forever. Like when they. For as long as they remember us, they will remember. They will remember us at. In New York City. Whether it's working with Wendy, whether it's Breakfast Club, where. Whether it's brewing. It is. We are New York staples.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what?

[Guest or Producer]

You should Give, like, a hundred million endowment to New York City just because I'm sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

Gratitude.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sure I will one day today that. Hey, I'm sure I will one day see if you think this is my last time on a Forbes cover, you bugging. I'm just letting y'.

[Guest or Producer]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just letting y' all know. I'm just letting y' all know what God has planned for me. Okay?

[Guest or Producer]

You all heard that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you know, like I always tell y', all, if what you build only benefits you, it's not big enough. Okay? I'm creating jobs, okay? I've probably created more jobs in New York City than most. Probably. All right? That's all I'm simply saying. That's all I'm simply saying. I've done my part. You've done your part, Alex. Andrew, you've done your part. We sitting in Fucking the Heavy Studios. Hey, man, Alex, you got wtf. You got employees.

[Guest or Producer]

I do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Andrew, you got employees. I got employees, but several different verticals. We are doing our part. That's all we can do, man. All we can do is be put in certain positions and, you know, try to help the next person. I don't think that's so difficult.

[Andrew Schultz]

Amen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that difficult? It's not fucking difficult, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit. You're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots Podcast. Thank you for listening.

[Andrew Schultz]

Peace.