CoprolaliaGanda

Summary

The Brilliant Idiots – “CoprolaliaGanda”

Release Date: February 28, 2026
Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God, Andrew Schulz
Description: Charlamagne and Andrew dive into viral moments involving Tourette’s, discuss political narrative wars, explore contemporary hip-hop, and riff on everything from NBA All-Star shenanigans to the meaning of modern masculinity.

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode revolves around two main themes:

1. The viral controversy at an awards show involving a man with Tourette’s syndrome (specifically coprolalia – the symptom of uncontrollable cursing/outbursts), and
2. The persistent battle of political messaging (especially MAGA vs. Dems) in the information age.

The discussion interweaves irreverent humor, social commentary, and culture critique, underlined—as always—by the duo’s willingness to say the unsayable.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. Tourette’s, Coprolalia & Award Show Outrage

(Start ~01:20)

Background:

• Charlamagne and Andrew begin by dissecting a viral incident at the BAFTA awards, where a man with Tourette’s (and specifically coprolalia) shouted the N-word during a live event.
• There’s confusion about BAFTA's meaning (British vs. Black American Film Awards) and the specifics of who the man is, and what happened.

Key Discussions:

• Nature of Coprolalia:
  • Andrew and Charlamagne debate about whether only a minority of people with Tourette’s have coprolalia, and what kind of phrases get blurted out (“why not something fun, like ‘titties’ or ‘cheeks’?” – [07:39], Andrew)
• Should He Have Been Invited?
  • The dilemma of inclusion vs. event disruption: “If you have an ailment that makes you prone to offend, why would you invite them?” ([05:30], Charlamagne)
• Doubts About Authenticity & Intent:
  • “How do we know he doesn’t believe it? How can we just automatically say that?” ([11:16], Charlamagne)
  • “You could have the ailment and believe it.” ([11:14], Andrew)
• Race, Outrage, and Event Responsibility:
  • Why did the production team edit other “controversial” moments (like “Free Palestine”), but leave this slur unedited?
    “They don’t know Black Twitter then. If they thought they could leave that in and that wasn’t gonna be a headline…” ([21:39], Charlamagne)
• Outrage Monetization:
  • “There are people that are milking black outrage… and outrage in general.” ([22:05], Charlamagne)

Notable Quotes:

• “If you’re not saying words you’re not allowed to say, you’re really not using your Tourette’s to full abilities.” ([07:22], Andrew)
• “Why they never say nothing fun, like ‘titties’, ‘cheeks’…all these beautiful women hit the stage, not one time.” ([07:39], Charlamagne)
• “Why would you have him there if you know he can’t control himself?” ([08:45], Charlamagne)

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2. Political Narrative Warfare: MAGA vs. Dems

(Start ~22:05; Deep Dive at ~29:00)

Right-Wing Narrative Machine:

• MAGA’s Media Army:
  • The duo analyze how right-wing influencers rapidly craft, amplify, and circulate new narratives—e.g., spinning a Gavin Newsom speech with a misleading “he thinks black people are low IQ” framing.
• Democrats’ Weakness:
  • “I have not seen nobody on the Democratic side be able to do that.” ([29:43], Charlamagne)
• Propaganda Tactics:
  • “The left kind of picks a bunch of different things. They don’t all come together around one thing at one moment in time.” ([32:03], Alex)
  • “One band, one sound. How do you beat that?” ([31:40], Charlamagne)

Presidential Hopefuls & Policy Messaging:

• Lack of Inspiration:
  • “They don’t have a candidate that is inspiring hope in the people… None.” ([41:41], Charlamagne)
• Barack Obama as a Benchmark:
  • “Barack made you feel that – all that. He hit all our G-spots. He made you nuts.” ([40:00], Charlamagne)
• Need for Results, Not Rhetoric:
  • “I think people are going to look for results… Even if it’s just one thing… What have you done?” ([43:35], Charlamagne)

What’s Needed for Democrats?

• Reclaiming Patriotism:
  • “Democrats have to take back the flag. Democrats have to go, ‘No, no, no, we are America… we’re going to give you hope…'” ([38:06], Andrew)
• Universal Healthcare as a Winning Message:
  • “Whatever candidate runs on universal health care wins.” ([47:41], Andrew)

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3. Hip-Hop Lyricists & Mace vs. Bad Boy Top 5

(Start ~77:00)

• Debate over Bad Boy’s Top Lyricists:

  • Charlamagne ruffles feathers by ranking Mase outside his top 5 “lyricists” (but not artists) on Bad Boy, putting Biggie, Jadakiss, Styles, Sheek, and Black Rob ahead.
  • “If you’re talking about artists, Mase is number two… But for lyricists…” ([77:04], Charlamagne)

• Philosophy on Criticism & Platform Use:

  • “If you’re any type of pundit… You’re gonna bother people. It is what it is.” ([84:17], Charlamagne)
  • “Put it down. God dammit, I earned every opinion I got… If you get punched in the face and keep talking, I respect you.” ([84:39], Charlamagne)

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4. NBA All-Star Game & Race Narratives

(Start ~102:00)

• White vs. Black ASG “Solution”:
  • They riff on Nick Wright's (sports journalist) “White vs. Black” All-Star Game fantasy, noting it would draw massive initial ratings but would “take away from what makes sports great: unity.”
• America’s Desire for Homegrown Stars:
  • “We want homegrown [NBA] stars. If Joker was from Kansas, they’d build a statue of him…” ([104:45], Charlamagne)

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5. Morality, Power, and Subjectivity

(Start ~94:48)

• Is Morality Objective or Subjective?
  • “Morality is subjective — definitely subjective to your opportunity.” ([94:57], Andrew)
  • “Morality should be universal, but some people don’t see it that way.” ([96:12], Charlamagne)
• On Rich/Powerful People Doing Bad Things:
  • “Human beings do what they can get away with. The more wealthy and powerful you get, the more you get away with.” ([97:24], Andrew)

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6. Humor, Cultural Trends, “Men as Bad Bitches” & Masculinity

(Scattered through 66:08 – 71:00, 69:15-70:00)

• Mocking Gen Z Guy Fashion:
  • The crew jests about how men now “all have purses,” NBA players dress “like women,” and the meaning of “fraggle maggot fashion.”
• Who’s Cool Anymore?
  • They shout out the next-gen hip-hop scene and debate who has youth culture’s stranglehold (NBA Youngboy, Marlon Craft named).

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7. Notable Lighter Moments & Quotes

• “If you’re not saying words you’re not allowed to say, you’re really not using your Tourette’s.” ([07:22], Andrew)
• “You could have kept him straight, yo.” ([115:42], Andrew, joking about an ex who turned out gay)
• “Who told a dog it was a dog? We did.” ([93:23], Charlamagne)
• “AI is the new Tourette’s.” ([100:31], Andrew)
• “We need to bring boring back to the White House. Maybe we’ve been too entertained for too fucking long.” ([52:00], Charlamagne)
• “You don’t find unicorns. They find us. They come right behind you and stick you with their horn…” ([39:29], Charlamagne)

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TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

| Timestamp | Segment | |-------------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:20–18:00 | Tourette’s, Coprolalia, Award Show Incident, and Outrage | | 21:00–33:00 | Outrage Monetization/Political Narrative Propagation | | 34:00–49:00 | Democratic Messaging & Inspiration, Past/Present Candidates | | 77:00–89:00 | Hip-Hop Lyricist Debate: Mace, Bad Boy, Black Rob, Sheek | | 102:00–106:00 | NBA All-Star Game, Race Narratives in Sports | | 94:48–98:41 | Morality: Subjectivity vs. Objectivity |

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MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• [07:22] Andrew: “If you’re not saying words you’re not allowed to say, you’re really not using your Tourette’s.”
• [29:43] Charlamagne: “I have not seen nobody on the Democratic side be able to do that.”
• [41:41] Charlamagne: “They don’t have a candidate that is inspiring hope in the people… None.”
• [40:00] Charlamagne: “Barack made you feel that – all that. He hit all our G-spots. He made you nuts.”
• [47:41] Andrew: “Whatever candidate runs on universal health care wins.”
• [84:39] Charlamagne: “Put it down. God dammit, I earned every opinion I got. If you get punched in the face and keep talking, I respect you.”
• [100:31] Andrew: “AI is the new Tourette’s.”

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TONE & LANGUAGE

High-energy, boundary-pushing, hilarious and irreverent. Both hosts freely swing between deep political analysis and absurd humor, often riffing in ways that lampoon both “woke” culture and its reactionaries. The language is often explicit and intentionally provocative—they play with controversy and address social taboos head on.

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TAKEAWAYS

• On Inclusion & Outrage: The crew wrestles with the complex intersection of inclusivity, optics, and real-life consequences for events involving people with disabilities, especially when slurs or shocking behavior are involved.
• Political Messaging: The right is dominating the narrative game; Democrats lag because of a lack of unity and inspiring messengers.
• Hip-Hop Criticism: Debate is intrinsic to hip-hop culture; robust opinion—even if inflammatory—is necessary for the art’s evolution.
• Morality: The subjectivity of morals, especially as influenced by power and opportunity, remains a frustration and a fascination.
• Culture Wars: Whether discussing masculinity, sports, music, or politics, the underlying issue is who controls the narrative and what’s considered “cool” or “acceptable.”

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For listeners new and old, this episode underscores why the show is called “Brilliant Idiots”: a wild ride that is at times idiotic, sometimes brilliant, and always both thought-provoking and hysterical.

Transcript

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[B]

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[C]

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[C]

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Way to go.

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Now get those nachos out of the preemie warmer. Nachos.

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Feels like there's more applause for the

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nachos than my speech.

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[B]

Yep. Charlamagne. The guy.

[A]

Andrew Schull.

[B]

We are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hezekiah Walker.

[A]

Sup?

[B]

How was your week, man?

[A]

Man, man, I was just fucking. I'm waiting for you to sit down, but. But I was just. Nah, we gotta start over.

[B]

Why? We gotta start over, bro? You got Tourette's? No, no, I do.

[A]

I do have Tourette's.

[B]

You got cop. You got coprolaria.

[A]

My Tourette's. Different.

[B]

How do you pronounce it? Coprolalia Colaporaria.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's the thing. It's a rare condition. No, no, you're right. I just don't know how to. The 15% of people with Tourette's got. And it makes them just scream out inappropriate things, things that aren't, you know, I guess, socially responsible. They cut somebody saying, free Palestine. What? You didn't know that? You knew that? Shut up.

[A]

This is crazy.

[B]

They literally cut somebody saying free Palestine.

[A]

No way.

[B]

Yes. Who had Therese? This dude named John Davis. No, who.

[A]

Who said that? Was that Tourette's?

[B]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know who somebody. I don't know who it was. I think he was accepting an award. I don't know if he was accepting an award. He just screamed it from the crowd. I think he was accepting an award, but they cut out somebody saying, you know, free Palestine. Listen, man, the Baptist is full of shit, you know? And the real.

[A]

Did you guys know that it was a British award show.

[B]

Yes. I have heard of the baftas before.

[A]

I thought it was the Black American Film and Television Award.

[B]

There is one of those, too, but I don't think it's called bafta, but it is a specific award show. Cause I've actually hosted it. Damn. What's the name of that show? Oh, my God. I can't think of what's the name of it right now. But I've definitely hosted that before in la, but I don't think it's televised or nothing. This wasn't televised either, was it?

[A]

I have no clue. I. I could care less about their awards.

[B]

They. Here's the thing.

[A]

This can't do.

[D]

You don't need talking about the abff.

[B]

Abff. There you go. There you go. Tell that. What's the. What's the. What's that? What's that for? What's that?

[A]

African American.

[D]

No. American Black Film Festival.

[A]

American Black.

[B]

American Black Film Festival, yeah. American Black Film Festival, yes.

[A]

What. Why is that even crazy to say who's not a booty fiend? We don't like booty.

[B]

Everybody likes booty.

[A]

Everybody likes booty. They like booty.

[B]

I mean, I gave them the nicest booties.

[A]

They can't appreciate him.

[E]

He's just trying to piss everybody off.

[A]

Well, I'm not trying to piss anybody off.

[B]

He might be like, fuck it, yo. Jokes might be like it at this point.

[A]

If we get another email. If we get another email. Charlotte made.

[B]

If we get another email, Schultz might be like it at this point, man.

[A]

Hey, hey.

[B]

You feel it? It? Are you feeling it?

[A]

Should we.

[B]

Should we have some fun today?

[A]

Should we have some fun?

[B]

No.

[A]

Here's the reality. Is Tourette's. Like, is Tourette. Can you. Can you.

[B]

They shouldn't even invited him. There's nothing wrong with a little exclusion.

[A]

No, yo, wait. Talk your shit.

[B]

What?

[A]

Talk your shit.

[B]

Oh, let's go.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Easily.

[E]

People with disabilities.

[B]

Easily. No, see, that's what you do. That's what you do. That's what you do.

[A]

Paint the nails.

[B]

That's what you Twitter motherfuckers do. Y' all do shit like that, you know? No nuance to it. You just want to exclude people with disability.

[A]

Yeah, tell them.

[B]

No, the reality of the situation is he has something called cola. How you pronounce it?

[A]

Colonoscop.

[B]

It's something. Cola. Something. How you pronounce it?

[A]

Colonoscopia.

[B]

That shit sound like some shit y' all got at wtf. That's a piece of equipment. Say it again.

[E]

Coprolalia.

[B]

Coprolalia. Yes, coprolalia. And what is it when you. When you can't help but yell out slurs and socially inappropriate shit?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

They say it only impacts 10 to 15% of people. Now I'm going to put this in a couple.

[E]

10% of people with Tourette's.

[B]

Oh, I'm just saying, like. Yeah, with Tourette's. With Tourette's. Let's be clear on that. Yeah, but 10% of people with Tourette's have this ailment. Now, let me use a couple of different examples.

[A]

Please use some examples because this shit

[B]

is Kanye west, right? Yeah, Probably a terrible example, but this is the brilliant of this podcast. Yeah, we're full of terrible examples. Kanye West.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Doesn't get invited places because he's prone to say something that's gonna offend people. Neither do we

[A]

got colonoscopy for the last fucking 12 years. We made a career off of the colonoscopy, but we get in trouble for it.

[B]

You know what else? We've heard the things that have come out of Kanye's mouth.

[E]

See, but that's different.

[B]

No, it's not. Yes, it is. We've heard the things that have come out of his mouth. He doesn't get invited to a bench because he's prone to probably saying something that's gonna offend or hurt. So if you have an individual who has an ailment that is going to say something that is going to hurt or offend you and invite him. I'll give you another example. Since we wanna talk about. Let's talk. Let's keep it on the mental illness side here.

[A]

Let's keep it on the mental illness.

[B]

Okay, well, fuck Kanye then.

[A]

All right.

[B]

If you have any type of mental ailment that causes you to be violent, Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you know that this person is violent. Yeah. Do you invite them to the event?

[E]

What mental ailment causes a person to be violent?

[B]

A bunch of them.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[B]

What are you talking about? Why are you on drugs?

[A]

How do you.

[B]

What is he talking about? What is he saying right now? I forgot that one. And guess what?

[A]

Mental health was the greatest career alley for you.

[B]

So either. So either these people are going to be heavily medicated and surrounded by individuals, or they're just not going to get invited to the event.

[E]

They can be medicated and then go out to Charlotte.

[A]

I mean, Alex, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. We're not gonna do this.

[C]

He was there as part. He has a film that was being

[A]

honored it's made about him.

[C]

That's about his Tourette's.

[A]

Yes. And how many N words. How many times does this character say it in the film?

[B]

Not Tourette's. That C word is very important.

[C]

Call it extra. Tourette's. Extra.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What. Whatever. Tourette's plus. What the f. Get the out of here. Did Chris just say he got the red.

[A]

Can I be honest with you? I thought. I don't even respect Tourette's if you're not using it to his full abilities. Like, yo, I didn't know there was another Tourette. I thought Tourette said extra. Tourette. Extraterrestrial.

[B]

Extraterrestrial. Got the name of the pod. Extraterrestrial.

[A]

He got the extraterrestrial.

[B]

That's Chris.

[A]

He got the extraterrestrial.

[B]

That was insane.

[A]

It takes an effort by the group, you know, it takes a village. But the point is, like, I did. If you're not saying words you're not allowed to say, you really not using your Tourette's because nobody is worried about you just saying, doorknob, doorknob, like they want to hear the wild shit. And then you got the get out of jail free card.

[B]

Why they don't never say nothing fun like titties, because pussy they do cheeks. All of those beautiful women that hit the stage not one time.

[A]

What a.

[B]

Not one time.

[A]

Your Tourette's kind of exposes you're gay, yo. Because if you're not. If you're not Touretted, when you see white ladies, right? And the only time he says, when there's two black dudes on stage, like, you really? What is it saying about you? Like, he just. He literally just screamed out his search history.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Like, my man came out of the noise at the night of his fucking.

[B]

I'm going to tell you what's so good about what you just said. He says bitch right after it.

[A]

If you have seen the film, I swear you will know that film is about the experience of a person with Tourette's.

[B]

He might go on pornhub and type that in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

N word. B. I'm serious. He might type in N word. That might be. That might be his thing. If you go watch that, he. That's what. He screams the N word. And he screams up.

[D]

Yeah, he does.

[A]

Yo, why would you even put yourself in that situation if you knew it was possible? That's the thing. If you can't. You can't see black people without screaming the N word at the top of your lungs.

[B]

And why would you have him there if, you know he can't control himself.

[A]

Go to the fucking Oscars. Don't go to the Black American Film and Television Awards.

[B]

Why would you do that?

[A]

Like, you know what I mean?

[B]

It wasn't the black American show.

[A]

It's the BAFTAs. No, man, it's the Black American Film Television Awards.

[B]

It was the British, by the way. And I'm gonna tell you how you know. It was premeditated in some way. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. They could have edited it. Why didn't they edit it?

[A]

Why didn't they edit it from.

[B]

Yes, they could edit it from the

[E]

production side of things.

[B]

Yeah, they edited Palestine thing. They edited. Why not? Why not?

[A]

Have you.

[B]

Hey, did any of y' all hear about this movie beforehand?

[A]

Here's the question.

[B]

Did any of. Did you hear about this movie beforehand? This is still the brilliant conspiracy theory in his. Did you hear about the movie beforehand?

[A]

I still don't know what the movie's name is, and I could guess.

[B]

It's called I Scream.

[A]

Okay, good, good.

[B]

No, it really is. It really is.

[A]

Stop.

[B]

Oh, I swear. Oh, shit. I was about to come. I was about to come. Ice cream. It is, though.

[A]

I really think we got whatever is right before Nasca Paria because, like, there's a lot of moments where it's like, I just gotta get it out.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

You low key.

[B]

Me too. You got it, though first. I got it. You don't know how bad my shit is run on sentences. My shit don't stop with words. In a period. I got run on.

[A]

He's lucky. He's lucky that he gets one word and it's out of his system. This guy.

[B]

I can't help it. I self diagnosed myself soon as I saw this shit. I never heard of this. And I was like, copalaria. I was like, what?

[A]

Nah, we all talked about inappropriate things

[B]

and slurpees like, that's us.

[A]

We got it, bro. But that just proves that we're not racist.

[E]

The thing I don't get, why does he scream it, though?

[A]

Well, so people hear him.

[E]

That's the part that is a little suspect to me because if you could just say something. But he screams.

[A]

Were they the first black people you saw on stage that we got to look at that and they were the first black people hit the stage? No, we got to look that up.

[B]

Let's play Taylor. I don't know.

[D]

Well, it's not gonna show if they were the first ones.

[A]

No, but we're just gonna watch it.

[B]

He should not have been Invited white

[A]

people, getting bold these last few weeks. We got a fart one, we got just a regular.

[B]

But according to the ailment, he doesn't believe these things. I don't believe that, yo.

[A]

Well, we don't know if he believes it or not. Cause you could have.

[B]

You would never know.

[A]

You could have the ailment and believe it.

[B]

That's my point. But how do we know he doesn't. How can we just so automatically say. Cause that's. If you look up the definition of copa liaria or whatever it is, they literally say these people scream out these inappropriate things and these slurs, but they don't believe them. How do we know you don't believe this shit?

[A]

That's the thing. You would have to prove that he

[B]

doesn't believe it, because who taught him this?

[A]

Well, he's. First of all, he's from Scotland, so he's never met black people, so he

[B]

knows the N word.

[D]

He blurs, like, movies he's watched or something like that.

[A]

He did let you guys.

[B]

He's 84. He's 84 years old.

[D]

I'm saying that because of one of the girls that have Tourette's, like, spoke out about it.

[A]

What'd she say?

[D]

She was just saying that we can't crack. No, it was a black. It was a black girl that was talking about

[B]

knock sauce.

[D]

I didn't say.

[A]

You're saying he didn't want to let nothing else rip when the presenters came to stage? Not one other time.

[B]

No, he said other words, but, like, fun ones. Nah, nothing fun, man. After. Shit, that's fucking crazy.

[A]

Imagine we knew about Cornopilia before, when we were growing up. Imagine how. You know how, like, everybody's autistic. If we knew about Chronicopilia when we were growing up, we would have been diagnosed ourselves with that.

[B]

I got it.

[A]

Say again?

[B]

I know I got it. You. I know I got it. Okay. I know I got it. Yo, send me all the horny cocopalia videos. Yo. Coprolalia. I want to see all the horny guys. I want to see how they scream out about fucking being bricked up.

[E]

You want us to send you a bunch of videos?

[B]

Yeah, I want to hear it. I want to hear it. I don't know why they don't die.

[A]

Not heard them scream out.

[B]

Fun stuff. Yo, he just.

[A]

He just wants. He just wants to see another guy be like, let me smell that seat. And then he be like, my people,

[B]

you know what's so funny? I don't know if I don't Know if this guy has this. But there's a dude. And I'm just gonna say there's a dude who rides a bike all the time and listens to a radio.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't. He's clearly got some type of mental health issue. But I don't know exactly what it is. But I think I told y' all this story before. He walked in the barber shop, and dude was getting his haircut, and he goes, that's a. Have my dick in his mouth.

[D]

You said, sorry.

[B]

And everybody in the barbershop like, what? Like, everybody. People were just quiet. He still getting his haircut. He sat down. He goes, ah. Didn't have my dick in his mouth.

[A]

He has a different disorder called homosexualia. I think he's just a gay guy.

[B]

What happened was.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

When he was younger.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

He used to stay.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

At this guy's house. Oh, no, I don't like that exactly. Oh, no. So they used to molest the kid, basically take advantage of him. And he did not forget. They thought he was just some little slow kid that they probably can get that off to. Nope. And never forget. Got him.

[A]

Yeah, got him.

[B]

Got him. Prince Andrew got him. All them years later, while you in a fat barbershop, gotcha. Getting your hair cut.

[A]

Snatched. Boom.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Dick in my mouth. He literally said his mouth. He goes. That's what he said.

[B]

Because you gotta think. You screamed.

[A]

I know. That was kind of 40th slip. Was that.

[B]

I got it.

[A]

I told you. I got corner police.

[B]

Because you gotta think. If you walk into a barbershop and somebody screams that the barber shop is crowded now. The hood got to get to investigating. That ain't come from nowhere.

[A]

And who is it directed to? You're cutting hair. You don't know where that language was from?

[B]

Oh, no. He was clear.

[A]

He pointed at him.

[B]

Pointing at him. Like, how my d. How my dick in his mouth.

[A]

What did you do while you getting your haircut? You mind your business.

[B]

What we got here, Taylor?

[D]

I was just looking up people with Tourette's.

[B]

Do y' all think he should have been invited, though? Serious questions.

[A]

Nah, you invite him and you put him in a room. I mean that sincerely. I'm telling you guys a story. I had a girl who had Tourette's. It was at one of my shows, and she was starting to have some tics. And, like, it was before the show started. And Dove went up to her, and then we brought her backstage, her and her husband backstage. And we Were like, listen, thank you so much for coming to the show. We want to put you guys backstage so you can watch the whole show side stage and not interrupt everybody. We're just a little worried that you might tick and then I might have to address it. It could interrupt the flow of the show and then it could negatively affect the other people there and that might make you feel bad. And then she was so grateful she got to watch the entire show, took pictures afterwards, everything like that. And then nobody else's time was affected. And then she didn't feel humiliated.

[B]

I respect that.

[A]

So there's a way to handle it.

[B]

But. And also, once again, she just has Tourette's. She don't have this rare case. That woman didn't have the rare case, which I don't assume, but she wasn't yelling slurs.

[A]

And I'll be honest, if you don't have this one, you don't got Tourette's. Like, what do we know? Tourette's as we know the Tourette's is like just yelling the out, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So that's Tourette's.

[B]

Yeah, but no, they have. This is worse. They say, this one isn't. It's like Chris said, it's extraterrestrials. And you literally say, slur. Look it up. I'm not.

[A]

No, no, we believe you. We believe you.

[B]

You can't help but yell slurs, inappropriate words. So I don't know if the person you put in the back had this.

[A]

Is it possible that this is just Tourette's with a sense of humor? Like, is it possible? Like, if you are funny, you just go, okay, I'm gonna say the most inappropriate.

[B]

That's a tough way, bro.

[E]

They have that girl that she has

[A]

her own show on one, bro. I know, I remember.

[B]

And why wouldn't you inform the audience? Why wouldn't you tell the audience that, hey, there's somebody here? They did noty.

[A]

I'm pretty sure they did. No, Alan Cumming came on after the

[E]

fact of the fact.

[B]

They should have informed everybody in the room. They should have let people know what the condition is. What if I'm just sitting by you and I'm watching Michael Delroy and I mean, I'm Delroy Lindo and Michael B. Jordan on stage and I just hear this dude yell out the N word and I don't know the context.

[A]

Charlamagne. If you tell me that there's somebody in the crowd that has cornopalia coprolalia and they could say shit at ain't Porn in time. I'mma yell out and blame it on, like, fart.

[B]

Like a fart.

[A]

Like, yo, he's acting up. He's acting up again.

[B]

That would be a great time to be a ventriloquist, right?

[A]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Would you not do that? If your boy had.

[B]

Cor.

[A]

Would you not treat him like a. Like a ventriloquist? Just crazy. There's nothing you can say about.

[B]

Oh, my God, man. Yeah, man. They should have informed the audience. Because if you inform the audience. Cause once again, what if I'm just sitting in the crowd and I hear this dude just yell out the N word and I haul off and slap the shit out of him?

[A]

If he was black, would it matter?

[B]

Yes. Hell, yeah.

[A]

It would be different.

[B]

It wouldn't be different. It would matter, though. It would matter. It wouldn't matter as much as this. But I don't even think it's the fact that he said the word. There's layers to this racism, Right? Because he says the word. Let's just. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He got an ailment. He don't believe that. He just yelled out inappropriate stuff because of his ailment. That still don't explain why the BAFTA awards didn't edit it out. Why did the BAFTA awards leave that in? You edited other things. The Free Palestine and whatever else. What was the purpose of leaving that one in specifically?

[A]

What do you think it was?

[B]

Racism?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Or now, again, is it because it did happen in a gap.

[B]

It's the Brits, guys.

[A]

Why are they. Are they racist?

[B]

As far as I know.

[A]

Oh, I thought that they're like, oh,

[E]

we're way more racist than.

[A]

Well, they are Brits.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No, that's not true.

[E]

I think so. Come on, America.

[A]

You think they're better at it than us, but I think way better.

[B]

Definitely, Definitely a racist.

[A]

Yeah. I think the race is more towards, like, the browns coming in. I don't know if they're racist to the blacks.

[B]

Know the difference.

[A]

Oh, they know.

[F]

They know.

[A]

They're aware.

[B]

Everybody with hue. With melanin.

[A]

No, I don't. I don't know. I don't know.

[E]

I think it's more. Hey, we want the moon.

[B]

Talking about we want the moon. Had a crown full of diamonds that Africans.

[A]

No, no. Indians.

[B]

Indians.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Stole.

[E]

Stole it from the end.

[A]

They won it. They won it. It was a victory. You know, it's the old way.

[B]

All I know is the bricks had no business.

[A]

Did we steal Manhattan?

[B]

You know, you ain't learned your lesson yet, huh?

[A]

No, I didn't learn.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I had that corner Palia Corn. My corner Palia was acting. My corner P was acting corner. Yo, that was a good. That was a dad moment right there, bro.

[C]

That

[A]

he was trying to warn me no more. You ain't learning us one of these days. Now. That was my corner.

[B]

Police edited it out. That's all I'm saying.

[E]

Yeah, but I think they just wanted a moment to bring to highlight.

[B]

I swear.

[D]

I think that's cool, though.

[A]

But why the fuck would. Oh, you said it was corny.

[D]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

I thought you said it was funny as hell. Yeah. What is their justification for editing out the Free Palestine thing but not editing out this?

[B]

Have they released a statement about that? I don't know.

[A]

I mean, they must release it. Stay.

[B]

I mean, I. I have no idea.

[A]

What if they're like, we side with. Yeah. What's his name?

[D]

John, probably. Unless they didn't think that no one would really catch the.

[B]

They edited it because it's a Hollywood award show.

[A]

A British award show.

[B]

A British award show. But it's still Hollywood, right.

[C]

And.

[B]

And films.

[A]

What are you saying, buddy?

[B]

I'm just saying I'm sure somebody get some emails. I'm sure somebody.

[A]

Sounds like you trying.

[B]

Did you learn anything?

[A]

Sound like you said.

[B]

I'm sure somebody in Hollywood was probably offended by them screaming Free Palestine.

[D]

It said a spokesperson for the BBC stated that the edit was made due time. Due to time constraints.

[B]

Oh, but they had time for a nigga.

[D]

Exactly. But they probably didn't think they have

[B]

time to Free Palace. They probably didn't think that.

[D]

No one's gonna catch it, though. Like, I don't know.

[B]

They don't know black Twitter then. They do not know black Twitter. If they thought that they could leave that in and that wasn't gonna be

[E]

a headline, or they know black Twitter and they're like, ooh, black Twitter. Twitter run with this.

[B]

That's probably true, too. Listen, there's a lot of that going on around and nobody's.

[A]

That is annoying.

[B]

Like, listen, there is a lot of

[A]

these corny free press, man. I know it's frustrating. I know it's annoying. But there are people that are milking black outrage.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. That's the problem.

[B]

I don't even think it's black outrage no more. I think people are. Are milking outrage in general.

[A]

That's the only way to get reaction.

[B]

And they're not even consistent about it. Right. Like, you see the Gavin Newsome thing that happened this week. You had all of these conservatives up in arms about what Gavin Newsom said in Atlanta. Can you pull that up, Taylor?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Can you pull up what Gavin Newsom said in Atlanta? By the way, I've heard Gavin Newsom say this a million times. Like, this is. These are talking points. Like, these are. Maybe y' all haven't.

[A]

What is he saying?

[C]

Hold on.

[B]

Gavin Newsom has dyslexia. I don't know if y' all knew that or not. And he's constantly battling dyslexia. So he. A few years ago, I think it was like, 20, 21, he put out a children's book about his dyslexia. He always talks about how he has struggles reading and how he doesn't like to read off prompt or. He's always said this. And his new thing, especially since Trump won, has been, hey, we gotta start talking like regular people, and we gotta stop using pronouns, and we just gotta talk like people talk. That's his thing. So I've heard him say a combination of all of this so many times over the last few years. But let's listen to what he said in the last.

[A]

That's.

[B]

What was that? That wasn't it.

[D]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm gonna get straight to it. I just went to the article and did it. Hold on.

[B]

Taylor hates us, bro. Taylor's back. All right, I got it back.

[D]

Taylor, relax. I got it right here.

[B]

Now, Taylor had a C section for all of y'. All. That was having a debate about Taylor and whether or not she pushed it out or not.

[D]

It is crazy. My son.

[B]

Huh?

[D]

Don't call my son an it.

[B]

I said that. I didn't mean it like that.

[D]

Okay, well.

[B]

Well, yes. Taylor had a baby and she pushed. She pushed it out. No, she had a C section.

[D]

Pushed my son out. Stop saying it out.

[B]

What did I say? Oh, yeah, Pushed your son out. She pushed her son out of Newsom.

[A]

We're not doing the pronouns no more.

[B]

But, no, there was some people having a debate on whether or not Taylor had C section or she pushed her son out.

[A]

So what you repping? Cuh.

[B]

It was a C section, right?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Yes, it was a C section. They had me confused because they was like, nah, she pushed it out.

[A]

Coochie and tack gang.

[B]

I was like, I didn't hear that. I thought she had the zipper. Let's hear it, Taylor.

[A]

Yo, y' all made another zipper, too. My wife got the zipper.

[B]

You got the zipper.

[A]

That's fire. And your husband gonna appreciate it. No. Why? Because the. The coochie's still intact.

[D]

The coochie's intact regardless.

[A]

Damn, that gets up. Damn if the baby comes out the vagina.

[D]

Yeah. What did Jess say?

[B]

You should correct him. He called your vagina shit.

[A]

I called it shit.

[B]

He did. He said that shit gets fucked up. He tried to get it off.

[A]

I know he said it.

[B]

That's what he said. He just called your vagina shit. How come he don't get corrected? That was crazy.

[D]

That's literally two different kinds of things.

[B]

No, it's not.

[A]

Hey, man.

[B]

He said your vagina is. That is fucked up.

[A]

Call your son it. Like we don't know who your son is. Like, we don't know that he's a person, a human being.

[D]

I know you met my son, too.

[A]

Met him. Eh.

[B]

Eh.

[D]

Andrew Taylor.

[B]

Taylor son was crooked. We met Taylor's son. He was dancing. Taylor's son hit the fucking Dougie on us.

[C]

He did.

[B]

At three months.

[A]

Violent.

[B]

That's what happened six months old. When you come out C section, he hits the fucking butt.

[A]

Look at that brain.

[D]

No, he's walking already, baby.

[B]

That's because don't see all these babies

[A]

dancing on Instagram because they come out C section.

[B]

You might be right.

[A]

You come out vagina. That brain gets squashed, bro. Takes a long time to recover.

[B]

Nah, you got to let your son come out the vagina, though. I saw a study on YouTube, and there was a study that said study

[D]

on YouTube is crazy.

[B]

Oh, no, I did. I saw a study. I did. I saw a study on YouTube, and they said that a lot of young men who are born through C section, as soon as the doctor slaps them on the ass, they don't cry.

[A]

Female doctor. No, we had a female doctor.

[B]

A female doctor.

[A]

Good reason.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, your dad didn't want. Your dad didn't want a male doctor to smack you on the ass.

[A]

No, no, that's.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

I am the dad. I'm the dad.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

I don't know why the. I don't think you was born really.

[A]

Female doctor. Slap that ass.

[B]

You don't want no male doctors. You don't take no chance.

[A]

No chances, bro. Yeah, Only women.

[B]

Exactly. It was only women in the study on YouTube said. The study on YouTube said there were male doctors.

[D]

Y' all came out C section.

[B]

Out of the C section. Came out C section. It's a high. Grounded by push. It's a high probability. That's all I'm saying. Alex. Alex was born for C section, and he got Smacked on the ass by Mel.

[A]

Finger might have slipped. Yeah, I think you got slapped like that. You guys are. We got Cornopalia.

[B]

Al. What are you excited? I'm just saying. Alex. Okay. I'm just saying.

[A]

Chris three lines into a haiku right now. He not even paying attention to the pot.

[B]

Let's hear what Gavin Newsom said. Gavin. Oh, first of all, this is the headline. The headline. California Governor Gavin Newsom believes African Americans are low IQ and illiterate while speaking to a black crowd in Georgia. Plate. I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you. I'm like you. I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a 960 SAT guy. And, you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone. You know, trying to act all there if you got 940, but literally a 960sat guy.

[A]

I cannot. You. You've never seen me read a speech

[B]

because I cannot read a speech. Let me tell you something, man. Mag is so good. Mag is so good because like I said, Gavin Newsom has been having this same conversation forever. He's out promoting his memoir, so of course he's gonna talk about his dyslexia in his memoir. But they took that clip, put that caption on that caption. California Governor Gavin Newsom believes African Americans are low IQ and illiterate while speaking to a black crowd in Georgia.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Even when you watch the video, it's a reach regardless of if you watch the video. Yes, you're gonna believe that Gavin Newsom said this. Now I'm gonna tell you what they do, which is so good. Early that morning, they post this. They get Nicki Minaj on it early. So Nicki Minaj posted, she creates the narrative. Then immediately you see Ted Cruz, you see Sean Hannity, you see all of these different MAGA accounts.

[A]

They do.

[B]

You see all of these different.

[A]

It's not just maga, by the way. It's a million different narratives.

[B]

No, this was. No, this was maga.

[A]

This was maga. Then there's a million different narratives.

[B]

Yeah, this was maga. And then, I mean, immediately they even, like, like you even see, like, even some of the hip hop blogs posting it.

[A]

Some. Some do it because they see it's trending and then they jump onto the trends.

[B]

Some do it and others are getting paid.

[A]

Well, that's the thing, that it's coming

[B]

out in the wash, as the old people say.

[A]

And we gonna find out, all of

[B]

you, that Are getting paid coming out in the wash. It's coming out in the wash. You saw the article that came out this week. There's an article that came out this week.

[A]

But imagine the people posting it and they not even getting paid. What's sadder? What's sadder? People that are just jumping on the trend and doing it well, they don't

[B]

care because they get an engagement.

[A]

Well, exactly. That's. That's their payment, I guess. But what I will say is that Gavin has a history of trying to like, which a lot of politicians do. They have a history when they're in certain environments, they're trying to like, ingratiate themselves. And I think that he made it very easy for this to be, for this to be done.

[B]

I don't even know if this crowd was all black. They didn't show me the crowd.

[A]

Well, that's the other thing that's important. It's like we just said, Atlanta probably wasn't all black.

[E]

Actually, it wasn't.

[B]

Yeah, see, I don't even know.

[E]

It was a very mixed crowd.

[B]

And when I saw Andre, man, Andre Dickens, he posted the whole clip. But once again, I've heard Gavin say this a million times. He wrote a book about his dyslexia four years ago. I'm more impressed at how MAGA orchestrates and executes narratives. And that shit is effective. I have not seen nobody on the Democratic side be able to do that.

[A]

Are you kidding me?

[B]

Well, see, I see a million things like this week they put out a Democratic autopsy that says she lost because of Gaza.

[A]

And how many people, how many Dem influencers have you said, have you seen posting on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram about that story?

[B]

None. Because.

[A]

Why is that?

[B]

Because they don't have this army. No. Yes.

[A]

I'll tell you why they're not posing about that. Because they know they're not going to do shit different come the next election.

[B]

They better, well, they better figure something out.

[A]

Think that any of the four people that are going to be running right now that, that are. You think any of the four names that are in the books right now are going to take a different position?

[B]

No.

[E]

Aoc.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Aoc.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

That's fair. But my point is, is like, there's not like, that's. To me.

[B]

But it's two different positions, right? You could, you can have a, you can have an anti Netanyahu position. You can have an anti war position.

[A]

Yeah, you should. Yeah, that's what America would want. But that's not what the donor Class wants. And that's not what they're going to probably do. My point that I'm trying to make is like, this is what happens. There are these think tanks that exist for maga. These think tanks exist for the Democrats, and they.

[B]

Democrats. Not as good as maga, bro.

[A]

Regardless of who's better or not.

[B]

No. That's what matters, though.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

If Democrats had this, the narrative would be better.

[A]

Now we're competing on who does it better.

[B]

Yes. I want. They should want this army. This is an army. That's what you're. I think that's what we're missing here. This is an army. The fact that they can take this clip.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Have a big influencer, create a narrative, and then all the influencers and all the elected officials immediately, within an hour, start reposting the same thing with the same exact message. One band, one sound. How you beat.

[A]

How can you beat, bro? I've literally went through this for the last month. Exact thing that happened.

[E]

I think you're more tied because it affected you. But I get what he's saying. They just have a stronger propaganda machine that all comes together around one issue.

[B]

And outside of your algorithm, the left

[E]

kind of picks a bunch of different things. Like, they don't all come together around, oh, let's focus on this one thing at one moment in time.

[B]

That's right.

[E]

To make that one thing blow up.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

I mean, that's what I think he said. Okay.

[B]

But to Alex's point, that's your algorithm. If they're coming at you specifically, you think that that's everything. This is just regular casual propaganda that somebody who's not even paying attention on this day probably was. Like Gavin Newsom said. What.

[A]

I guess what I'm trying to say is that these narratives exist and they serve a purpose. The purpose of this MAGA narrative is to undermine Gavin Newsom because he's a potential candidate and he is the leading candidate right now. And they really want to make sure that, I imagine, a certain demographic does not trust or like him. That is black voters. Right. Because if he loses black voters, he's most likely going to lose the election. So they're going to target as much as they possibly can and spin narratives around it in the same way that Democrats are probably going to do the exact same thing. Right. Like it is beneficial for them.

[B]

Not in a good way, though. That's my point.

[A]

It's beneficial for them to make certain people's voices seem super toxic and super bad and super fucked up. Because then when These voices are heard in the near future, then people might be able to easily dismiss them in the same way that people. I guess MAGA hopes that black people will easily dismiss Gavin Newsom.

[B]

You know what's interesting about what you're saying? I think you're assuming that it's the left that did that to y'.

[E]

All.

[B]

I actually think. I actually think the left.

[C]

They try to court you.

[B]

Exactly, Exactly. They. I said this to somebody. Somebody. You.

[A]

You. Chris, I know you don't believe that.

[C]

Why not?

[A]

Well, has the left been historically down for courtship and trying to expand their base, or have they been historically. You're not pure enough to be in the.

[B]

No, that's new. They. They were always the big ten parties.

[A]

Not make up.

[E]

They were all a.

[F]

No.

[B]

They were always the biggest party. Always the.

[E]

You have to be a pure Democrat

[B]

and you break at the last decade.

[A]

Yeah, we're talking about the last decade.

[B]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[A]

Yeah. What I'm saying right now is that like. Like this. Look, this is the problem with. With our system, right, Is like, the Republicans are way too open, right? People literally be like, I'm a Nazi. And they'll be like, but you want lower taxes. Okay, cool, come on in. And then Democrats are way too close. It's just like, hey, I want to help people, and I want to make sure that we can find ways to get them healthy.

[B]

They have been a cancer coach.

[A]

Say again?

[B]

Dims invented cancel.

[A]

I'm not saying one did it or didn't. What I'm saying is that it's far too close, right? It's like, if you have one thing that they don't believe in, then they're like, okay, if you're like, hey, listen, I believe in all the things you believe in. But, like, if you were gonna do a sexual reassignment surgery for a child, they should tell their parents. And they're like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Fuck you out of our tent. And that is an issue.

[C]

That's the far left.

[A]

But the far left and the far right is who we're talking about when we're talking about the parties, right? We're not talking about the nuanced individuals that may exist in the middle that nobody ever speaks to. We're talking about the people who control the perception of the party, which are the far extremes. If you're gonna reference MAGA as a version or a conduit or an avatar of conservatives, then you have to use the far left as an avatar of Democrats.

[B]

All I know is MAG is Better at this mag is better at this

[C]

shit than Democrats, more rampant on the right. But I do think the left's purity test, when you get all the way to the far left, is the biggest issue it's got to figure out, right? Like, because that's where the left eats itself alive in the way that I don't see the right doing.

[A]

I think the left's biggest issue is we want to love America. We want hope. I think this is something Mamdani did brilliantly, which is he didn't just run on, these guys are bad. Look how bad they are. Look how horrible these people are. He ran on I'm gonna make your life better. And I'm not hearing any messaging from the left about why America is amazing, why it's a beautiful country that we should all want to live in, and why we're gonna make it better for everybody else. I haven't heard that from anything else.

[C]

I don't think that's true. Resonating. Maybe.

[A]

Maybe. Tell me when I just hear Gav Newsom talking about his sat.

[B]

Oh, Barack Obama.

[C]

One clip.

[A]

Barack Obama ran a hope, need hope.

[B]

But let's be clear.

[A]

I want to divide the country off

[B]

a hockey victory, but affordability is literally the buzzword for everybody now. Like, every single party is talking about how we can make people's lives better. That's why Trump State of the Union speech. Everybody was like, get the fuck out of here, cuz. You spent the first 20 minutes gaslighting people. You did exactly what Biden did when you was trying to tell us that the economy was booming when we know it's not. You can't tell us that groceries and gas is down when people know it's not every. Yo, this morning we're recording this on a Thursday, by the way. So today, Thursday, Wednesday, recording this on a Wednesday. So State of Union was last night, literally this morning on the radio. All it was was a bunch of people struggling to get to work in the morning, struggling, you know, because they got to pay rent, struggling to put gas in their car, pissed off and literally saying what I'm saying. Why do they constantly do this shit to us? Us, Not. Not just Trump. They.

[A]

I know you can't do that.

[B]

So everything else that Trump tried to do after the economy, nobody gave a fuck about that shit.

[A]

Nobody.

[B]

Nobody cared about the trade.

[A]

This is why Democrats have a golden opportunity. The right has not delivered on any of their promises. None of them. Like, even if you did do think that they're delivering on immigration. They pulled everybody out of Minneapolis after the protest. So it's like they're not even coming through on the things that they said that they're going to do. Right?

[E]

Closing the border.

[A]

Okay, the border. Fair enough, fair enough, fair enough. The border is closed, but they're not doing the deportations, it seems, in the way that they said that they were gonna do. So the Democrats have a golden opportunity to seize this moment.

[C]

Right?

[A]

What are they gonna do with it? Are you gonna make us believe in something? At the end of the day, Americans, because what the Republicans are doing right now is pretty obvious from the State of the Union is they're basically going, hey, they hate America. That's their goal. They know that. They can't say, look what we've delivered. They could try, but the American people are seeing right through it. But they can say, that party over there. They hate America. See how they won't stand up. They hate America. See how they're not supporting these things. They hate America. See how they would rather look after illegal immigrants before they look after you. They hate America. And Democrats have to take back the flag. Democrats have to go, no, no, no, we are America. The flag is ours. We're gonna give you something to believe in. We're gonna give you that hope. We're going to make shit affordable and this is how we're going to do it because we care about you. And these guys have proved that they don't.

[B]

I will say that.

[A]

Who is going to say that? Where is that message?

[B]

I will say, though, none of that shit worked today. He did all of that shit. But if you spend the first 30 minutes lying to me about the economy when we're watching you get rich as a motherfucker. Every single headline I saw today, even people on the right was like, fuck out of here. This guy. What was the approval rating today, Chris?

[A]

30.

[B]

But again, you got a 30% approval rating.

[A]

Again. His approval rating again, he's not running, right? Doesn't matter. But it's like we hope he's not running. It doesn't matter. What I'm more saying is what the Democrats have to do is you need that Barack esque moment where he comes in there and you can say how horrible things are America, as long as you give us hope for how great they will be.

[B]

I think it's going to take a governor if it's not an outsider. You know, I say Jon Stewart and I really mean it.

[A]

What about Jon Ossif?

[B]

Maybe, maybe. But the reason I say it's gonna take a governor is because you're able to see what a governor is doing right now. You can go to Maryland and see what Wes Moore is doing. You can go to Pennsylvania and see what Josh Shapiro is doing. You can go to Illinois and see what Pritzer is doing. You can go to Kentucky and see what Andy Beshear is doing.

[A]

We couldn't see anything that Barack did, but he inspired us. He gave us hope.

[B]

We're not getting no more unicorns, guys. Well, the unicorns are gone.

[A]

Let's start looking for one. Why can't we? Why do we lower ourselves?

[B]

You don't find unicorns. They find us. They come up right behind you with their fucking horn, okay? And they stick you in a place that you've never been stuck before. And then it hits that goddamn G spot. Next thing you know, you're nutting all in a cup like Stiff Law in American Pie. And you're like, I love this person. Okay, that. What is wrong with you?

[A]

So this is crazy.

[B]

So that nobody gets that analogy. I thought.

[A]

I thought it started with Barack.

[E]

That's.

[B]

Barack made you feel that? All that? Yes. He made everybody. He hit all our G spots. He made you nuts. Yes.

[A]

Nah, he did.

[B]

It was a black man who won the White House in America. That man hit the G spot.

[A]

No, he did hit the G sp.

[B]

What are you talking about? So who's gonna shot that? Oh, that's why they like to call it the old shot. What? Why do you think they call it fucking O shot?

[A]

What's the O shot? I don't know.

[D]

Orgasm shot.

[C]

What?

[D]

Orgasm shot.

[B]

You don't know what the O shot is?

[A]

I didn't know that one.

[B]

You don't know?

[D]

I didn't even know they had orgasm shots.

[B]

That's why they call it the O shot. The O stands for Obama.

[A]

They have shots to give you orgasm positive.

[B]

You don't know what the O shot is. The O shot, Orgasm shot is a non surgical in office procedure using a patient's own plasma to rejuvenate vaginal clitoral tissue, enhancing sexual arousal, lubrication and intensity. Or orgasm. Oh, shot, baby. That's what we got in 2008.

[A]

It's that hard to come? Ladies, we're in 2006.

[D]

You should. First of all, that's a very interesting question that you just asked.

[A]

My wife don't have a O shot.

[B]

What? Who?

[A]

I said my wife doesn't have an O Shawl coming. Say again?

[D]

How do you know she's really coming?

[A]

You don't trust.

[B]

You don't care. You think this motherfucker care trust. You think he trusts? You think he gives a I too?

[A]

I'm too insecure for her not to come.

[B]

I don't believe you give him.

[A]

I'm a comedian. At the end of the day, I like audience to be happy. You know what I mean? I'm making a little applause break here

[B]

and there, you know, that's what I told Envy today. Because, you know, Envy guy is. He talked about it in his first book. In Envy's first book, he talks about how he didn't make his wife orgasm for 10 years, right? So I was like, great. I was like, yo, how did she tell you, bro? Cause you a dj, that she be like, yo, you didn't even rock the party, yo.

[A]

You fucking, fucking.

[B]

I wasn't even really dancing. I didn't like none of that music. But listen, I want to say once again, MAGA is really good at this social media shit. And if Democrats don't figure this piece out, boy, it's going to be some shit in 2026 and 2028 because they don't have a candidate. To your point, they don't have no candidate that is inspiring hope in the people. And so they don't have a candidate that can withstand these type of attacks.

[A]

Which candidate you think that the Democrats have loves America the most?

[C]

That's a purity test. I mean, you're complaining about purity tests. Now you're giving.

[A]

Yeah, I have one purity test for being an American. Love it.

[C]

Everybody loves America. That's not a question.

[B]

I don't think Trump loves America.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

Oh, so now somebody doesn't love America.

[C]

Yeah, at the top. Which is dangerous.

[A]

Yeah, it's dangerous when any elected official doesn't love America. Or at least that's a perception we have. Which. Which Democratic candidate do you see draping themselves in the American flag?

[C]

You mean you don't think Mayor Pete's.

[A]

To me, I think. To me.

[B]

I think Pete.

[A]

To me, I think Mayor Pete.

[B]

I think all in power. They all are. I think. I think all of them. I don't know what would be. You have to give me a reason why they don't.

[C]

I think maybe their version of America doesn't jive with people on the other side.

[B]

And it doesn't.

[A]

But no, no, no. That's something that I don't think is fair. Right.

[C]

It's like, well, what's a sign of being unpatriotic?

[A]

Do you think the American flag is a bad thing to celebrate?

[C]

I don't think anyone's Questioning that the

[A]

flag is so which, which candidate would you see traped in it, loving every moment?

[C]

Technically, you're not supposed to touch the flag if you're a true flag. Who said that the flag is sacred? That's why when they do the flag raising ceremonies, you see the Marines very carefully, you know, holding it by the edges because.

[A]

Yeah, but that might be some military thing like you allowed to wrap yourself in America.

[B]

I think all of them are super patriotic. I. I don't. I don't even. I think all of them are super, super, patriotic. I don't know what, I don't know what it would take for one of them to like, really, really cut through, because I think. But what I do believe in 2028, I think the unicorn shit is over. And I think people are going to look for results. People are going to know what, what have you done? Even if it's just one thing they can point to that changed your state for good. What have you done?

[A]

All right. What has Gavin done that makes you support him?

[B]

I don't support Gavin.

[A]

Okay, what is Mayor Pete, and I like Pete done?

[B]

I don't know what Matthew did in any. I can tell you things that I've

[A]

seen, you know, what has AOC done that makes you supporter?

[B]

I don't know what AOC does. I'm not, I'm not. That's not who I.

[A]

What is Kamala Harris done that makes you.

[B]

She's not a governor. I'm talking about the governor. I like the, I'm saying, of the

[A]

top four right now. So those are the top four in terms, are they?

[C]

I think Mayor Pete's incredibly competent, which at this point, incredibly confident.

[B]

But he said, what has he done, though?

[A]

No, again, he said. He said, what has he done? So I want to know.

[B]

Well, you know, what's a policy you can point to and say? If he implies the only policy he's

[C]

had on a national level is a transportation secretary, which despite the narratives formed by the right, I think he did a fine job of it. I think actually our transportation system was in better shape under his control. That's a good question than it is currently.

[A]

Again, I say this as someone who is of those four people. I really like mayor because I think he's smart, I think he's thoughtful, and he doesn't try to speak down to you.

[C]

He doesn't try to speak down. He seems unemotional in a solid way. I feel like he'd be very calm under pressure.

[A]

Agreed.

[C]

He served. I mean, on the patriotic front. He Served in the military.

[A]

I know again, we had him on the pod. And I think I like the guy.

[B]

I fuck with Pete. I've been fucking with Pete for a long time. I had Pete corner.

[A]

What I'm trying to say is I think this is what Americans are gonna wanna know and if. And it's time to start carving out what that identity is and how you're going to help people.

[B]

These are some good things.

[C]

Well, I think what you're seeing with Newsom right now is he's trying to humanize himself. The whole stuff about the sats and his struggles and the things. Lexia.

[B]

It's gonna be very hard for Gavin.

[C]

I like him better. Cocky and sarcastic.

[B]

Yeah, but you can't be that cocky when you have the record you have in California. Like, there's so many people in California that'll say that they don't feel like California is safe. They feel like the economy's with the shit in California. Like, there's a lot of people who don't like Gavin Newsom in California.

[A]

Newsom is running on vibes. Vibes, but also he's running on I'm not Trump. This is Newsom's campaign. Trump is gonna keep fucking up for the next three years and people are gonna want not him. And then I'll be here and I'll be not him. If we have to deal with another election of not this guy, I'm like, what the fuck are we even doing here? Can we elect somebody for ideas that we hope to see happen? Can we be enthusiastic about the things that people are pushing through?

[C]

Well, that's part of it. Because I think they have all addressed the. Not just the anti Trump platform. I mean, what, what we're talking a lot about is building up the middle class, for instance, which is a key issue across America.

[B]

Right.

[C]

The demise of the middle class. Kamala made that a key part of her acceptance speech. I mean, I remember her hammering that over and over again. It didn't resonate. People didn't get enthusiastic about it. It's not that they're not saying it, it's not that they're not addressing it. The question is, what does it take to resonate?

[B]

Well, Chris, you know what it takes to resonate when people see that you've already done it. Like, for example, Andy Beshear in Kentucky. He's expanded Medicaid, which has improved rural hospital survival and health outcomes. He's reduced uninsured rates without exploding state budgets. Why? That will scale on a big stage. Cuz it shows universal Health coverage policies can work across partisan lines. Stuff like that is what people want to hear about. People want to see what they want to hear about. Wes Moore, M.D. west Moore has done public safety plus social investment. He does things like violence, interruption, job programs, targeted policing. He frames society as economic and social stability. And you see that working in places like Baltimore where crime is coming down. Those are things that people want to see. They want to be able to point the things you've actually done. That's why I think governors are going to have the best opportunity in 2028.

[A]

Whatever candidate runs on universal health care wins.

[C]

Let's go.

[A]

Now. I don't know if that's something given. Granted, I don't know if that's something given, like the systems and structures and bureaucracy of America. That is going to be possible with a single. Who knows how many terms this president gets. But I don't know if that's something that is possible they could deliver on. But that messaging right there, hey, I'm gonna take 600 bucks a month off of your, off of your debt sheet, right? I'm gonna take a thousand dollars a month, I'm gonna take fifteen hundred dollars for your family. I'm gonna take that off. You don't have to worry about that now with me as president, that, whoa, that seems like a solution, not status quo.

[B]

Andrew's not wrong, but I'll even. I want to quote Josh Shapiro. What has Josh Shapiro done in Pennsylvania? Workforce and economic development investment. Because I think that's what even you're speaking to. Even though you're saying universal healthcare. Anything that can put more money in somebody's pockets is going to help you win. Shapiro's administration has pushed strategic economic development, attracting private investment, creating jobs and accelerating permitting licensing processes to help businesses grow. His office also invested in workforce training programs, especially in manufacturing and trade. Stuff like that will work on a national level.

[C]

Well, but that's what I've been saying is run on a new New Deal, right? Trump came in, him and Elon ripped apart every federal agency. We still don't know what the fuck happened. I mean, the history still has to be written about that moment.

[B]

Unbelievable.

[C]

It's insanity.

[B]

Unbelievable.

[C]

Democrats come back in, pump money into universal healthcare, pump money into education, into, you know, pre kindergarten, what they're doing in New York City, all these things. Put the money back into the federal government. You gotta keep track of it. You can't have graft, you can't have people lying, fraud, fraud. You have to really be on top of it. But that's what people need right now. People need that sort of support, and I think that would resonate. It's not socialism. It's not. Maybe it's a little socialism, but it's not communism.

[B]

It's all about putting money in people's pockets. The fact that Donald Trump, the fact that Donald Trump stood up at the State of the Union and acted like cutting food stamps was a good thing. We cut a record number of job killing regulations and in one year we have lifted 2.4 million Americans, a record

[A]

off of food stamps.

[B]

The fact that he bragged about the fact that they cut food stamps lets me know how out of touch he is, even with his own base. You must have never been down south and seen a bunch of poor white folks where I'm from in South Carolina who rely on food stamps. Who do you think the majority of people on food stamps are in America? So for him to sit up there and brag about that, Imagine sitting at home, you voted for him, and you literally starving. You literally can't afford groceries because your food stamps got cut. And you hear the president that you voted for bragging about cutting your food stamps.

[A]

So what are Democrats gonna do to take advantage of it? That's my point is like, if all the rhetoric is, is just like, look how bad this guy is, but you don't inspire people, you're gonna end up with very similar results.

[B]

That's why the next candidate, that's why the governors are going to win. Oh, it's gonna be a governor that wins. It's gonna have to be a governor that shows. This is how I have helped people. This is how I made your life better. To your point, Andy Beshear is doing things with healthcare in Kentucky. You can look at somebody like Shapiro, you know, who's, you know, invested in, you know, the workforce and economic development in Pennsylvania. You can look at somebody like Wes Moore who's invested in, you know, social programs that have reduced crime and put money in people's pockets. Those are what, though. That's all you gotta. That's all you can stand on.

[A]

Universal healthcare.

[E]

I think what's gonna happen, I think Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie run on a unity ticket. So you bring both parties together and they are the only people who have been doing what the public wants. Going after these.

[B]

I fuck with Ro, I can't front. I fuck with Ron.

[A]

That would be wild. I don't know if it happens, but that would be fucking awesome.

[B]

Listen, here's the thing, and I said this to Ro before So I'm not saying anything out of turn. Me and Ro have had this conversation. I just don't know if Ro has the personality. But to your point, Roe has results. And that's what I'm saying. I'm saying people gonna care about results in 2008. I mean, 20, 28 people gonna care about the work. They're gonna look at your resume and see what have you done. The days of rhetoric are over.

[E]

And they show that, hey, a Democrat and a Republican can work together to get stuff done. That's what the people are most frustrated.

[B]

We need that. Maybe we gotta bring boring back to the White House. Maybe we've been too entertained for too fucking long.

[A]

Well, that's what happened with Biden, right? I think it was after. After Trump, it was like, yo, Biden was not boring.

[B]

That's disrespectful.

[A]

Well, he was not boring in a different way.

[B]

Biden was great, bro.

[A]

Well, yeah.

[B]

Don't even act like. Don't even act like acting like we had a corpse for four years wasn't fucking fantastic. Don't even act. Don't you dare act like having a corpse for four years.

[C]

Not four years. When was he on the bike? When he fall off the bike.

[B]

Damn. You think he was done from there? You think they.

[C]

You think they got on a bike with toe clips?

[B]

Let's go, Chris. You think they swapped him?

[C]

You don't think Trump could get on a fucking bike with toe clip right now?

[A]

Oh, you make an excuse.

[B]

I don't even know what the fuck toe clips are. Exactly.

[A]

What's toe clips?

[C]

You know what toe clips are?

[B]

The fuck are toe clips?

[A]

You clip yourself into the bike.

[C]

It takes a certain level of athleticism. Yes.

[B]

Oh, I thought you was trying to say after he fell off the bike, they swapped him out and put a variant in. I thought we was going somewhere with this.

[D]

Why do you have toe clips on?

[B]

Listen, we went from a president that's serious.

[C]

People know if you, if you celebrity a prince.

[D]

I don't think that's like to a corpse.

[A]

To a corpse.

[B]

Back to the executive producer, Celebrity Apprentice after he had a million fucking felony charges, okay? After we saw him, you know, be corrupt the first fucking term, we went back to it. Maybe we need to get something. We need, barring again, a little something in the room. What kind of time.

[C]

I stand corrected. He didn't have toe clips on.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, Chris, I can't. No, we can't even.

[C]

He was on a. He was on a 12 speed.

[A]

That's why we can't 12 speed.

[B]

You see why I say Mag is better at this?

[A]

I challenge you. I challenged Donald Trump to get on a 12 speed.

[C]

I challenged Donald Trump to get on a 12 speed.

[A]

We can't just sit here and admit it.

[B]

This is why. This is why, Chris.

[A]

You can't just admit it.

[B]

This is why. This is why.

[C]

12 speed.

[B]

Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some bills. Please pay some bills. Chris is crazy. Oh, man.

[D]

All right.

[B]

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Experian all right, we got some church announcements. What you got Hezzy?

[A]

Yes, finally getting back on the road. I'm gonna be in Nashville the 20th and 21st. Go get tickets for that at my website if they are still available. Also going to be going to March 28, Providence, Rhode Island. May 8, Los Angeles with Jelly Roll the Greek Theater. He's putting on a show for the Netflix is a joke fest. And then August 8th, Halifax, Nova Scotia. That's going to be a wild one. We got Cam Cam from SNL and Kill Tony Fame. Also Lucas Zelnick is pulling up to that one and Mark Gagnon So that's going to be a wild one up there in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Theatersholz.com for tickets.

[B]

All that when you do the hard G on Mark's name, that sounds crazy.

[A]

God got let people know, man.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah.

[E]

So I'm throwing another comedy experience. You can head over to canceledcomedyx.com that's gonna be on March 16th at Barloom. We got a crazy lineup where we'll be announcing that soon, but that's canceled Comedy X. Com.

[B]

Mm. What else we got? Taylor Gang. I'm not talking about 50 Cent and TI I refuse.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Okay, because, man, you know, first of all, it is so funny when I said that on Breakfast Club. It's a bunch of people in my comments. No, no, no, no. You didn't have that energy for J. Cole. You ain't had that energy for Drake. First of all, J. Cole and Drake ain't gonna bust a grape in a fruit fight, okay? But motherfucking Tip and Curtis Jackson, 50 Cent. It's a problem. I'm just saying, man, I'm 47 years old. I was born in 1978, okay? I've seen a lot of things in my life. And there's some rappers who bout that action, and there's some rappers who bout that boof. And then there's some rappers who bout both, okay? And both of those individuals are about both. So personally, I'm not putting no gas on this fire. I actually want this situation to go away. Because even as grown as they are, they both are who they are. And it's like what they say, the immovable object meets the unstoppable force. Yeah. Some things I don't want to fan the flames of. I don't. No, no, no, no.

[A]

Peace and prosperity.

[B]

Peace and prosperity to all parties involved in this situation. You know what I mean? I just can't do it. I just simply can't. And stop comparing, like, talking to me about that. You wanted J. Cole to battle. Actually, I was cool with J. Cole stepping out, but I also knew that Drake, J. Cole and Kendrick wasn't going nowhere. But the booth. That I knew for a fact. I've seen too much from both of these individuals throughout my life, 50 cent NTI to want to see that be what it is right now, because that could get crazy. That's just my personal opinion.

[A]

You think it's.

[B]

I think you get crazy.

[A]

What?

[D]

I'm just saying, like, as old as they are, you think it would still lead to that?

[B]

No. Some people look consistent. Yes. Oh, yes. Yes, I do. Because some people look consistent. Absolutely. Very much so. What is. English is hard.

[D]

Okay, Okay. I think I feel like you're gonna get a kick out of this, Chris. I'm sorry. Let's give you a heads up. Let's just give you a heads up.

[B]

Bring the gong. I watch a gong doing it.

[A]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[B]

Y' all love triggering. Poor Chris, man. Chris is just a scooter. Don't worry about it.

[D]

Why can't I. Why wouldn't it? Let me go to it.

[B]

Chris is a scooter. Don't even look.

[A]

Chris.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[A]

It won't let me even up.

[D]

Go.

[B]

That's Chris. Chris. See, Buddha's with Chris. Right?

[A]

Go up.

[D]

I did.

[A]

Right there.

[B]

They won't even let you play. They want.

[D]

Okay, January. Compare my pronunciation to yours.

[A]

January.

[C]

Air.

[D]

Air. Geni.

[E]

J.

[D]

Compare my pronunciation to yours. She has a lot. Ah, Taylor, no. You didn't think that was funny? I thought it was funny because she has a lot of videos like that. She's trying to pronounce English.

[C]

I could actually send you a better one if. If you really want.

[B]

She's got the nerve to criticize.50 cents it.

[D]

What do you mean?

[B]

That was fucked up, Yo. That was fucked up.

[D]

It's fucked up. She put it up on there.

[A]

What do you mean?

[E]

Wow.

[B]

It's her fault now. Yeah, Victim blaming pretty much. Wow. Go ahead, keep going. They caught perfect too, didn't it?

[D]

Yo, look at her Instagram. She has mad of her trying to pronounce it.

[A]

That's funny.

[D]

See, that's what I'm saying. Like, she has a lot.

[B]

What's her Instagram name? See, exactly I'm just looking.

[A]

Just looking.

[B]

What is it? Bold voice. Gina, that was crazy tail. I don't know why you would put that. That's not even a real person. That's AI. That's not even a real woman.

[E]

N. That's.

[B]

That's not real. That's the AI, bro. What else we got? Taylor K. That was so f. Why you would do that to the cr.

[A]

That was genuinely bad.

[B]

Like, that was wrong. That was really crazy. Yo, let.

[C]

Let me.

[A]

If you want to. Really? You want some Asian redemption, Taylor? Let me see.

[D]

No, I don't, I don't. I really don't.

[A]

No, you need to. You need to play this right now. This right here, this. This dude got it figured out, man. Play my boy, Woody Shin. Play my. Play my South Korean homie, Woody Shin. This guy is. This guy got life figured out, man.

[D]

Okay, let's say. What is the thing?

[A]

Shout out to my boy Woody, man. Play this guy right here. And you need audio. And we need to start it from the beginning. And we need audio.

[B]

You are officially middle aged. When happiness is very simple.

[C]

I slept all Saturday like a dead man.

[B]

Woke up at 4pm I almost said to my wife, honey, what's for dinner? But I value my life. So I quietly put on my jacket and went to the Sunda Guppa place near my home. One hot bowl and yes, one bottle of soju. No drama, no getting yelled at. Just my favorite food. One sip of soju and complete silence.

[C]

When you're young, have one sip.

[B]

What y' all doing? What's up with Chris? Get em off your people.

[C]

Eating what you love.

[A]

No, this is beautiful.

[C]

Eating what you love and going home peacefully.

[B]

That's it.

[C]

That's happiness.

[A]

That's it.

[D]

What the hell?

[A]

That's happiness. He has life figured out. He has life figured out. So crazy. When you're young, you want excitement. When you're old, you want on silence. Your favorite food, your favorite drink. That's it. The guy has it figured out. Shout out. Woody Shin.

[B]

What was he eating? Little noodles. Some noodles and sake?

[A]

No, not at all.

[B]

What was that?

[A]

You didn't even watch.

[B]

I wasn't told you exactly what he was eating. I wasn't. Cause I, you know, I.

[A]

You what?

[B]

Asian racism isn't fun to me. I like a lot of his other forms. I like

[A]

charlamagne. Charlamagne.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Did you just say what I think you said? There's no way that you believe what he just said.

[B]

I do.

[A]

You don't like Asian racism?

[B]

No.

[A]

What's your favorite.

[E]

For 12 years, we've been getting that.

[B]

Chris. No, but it's not racism. It's the fact that Chris is Asian. What?

[A]

He is Asian. He is Asian. Also, I don't like this new narrative where people are trying to say he's Jewish.

[B]

Well, he says that. That he got to do that, though.

[A]

He really got to do that, too.

[B]

I knew it was Jewish before Asian.

[A]

Yeah, but. But he's more Asian than he is Jewish. We know that for a fact.

[B]

Nah, nah. Chris. Yeah, Chris Monroe, man. Chris the Jewish guy.

[D]

You know, I thought you were Christian for a long time.

[B]

All right?

[C]

I am.

[D]

I'm so confused.

[A]

Taylor.

[B]

She's back. Taylor. What else we got here?

[A]

We out here playing baseball, and Taylor just throws a hockey puck on the foot.

[B]

But, you know, I know. You thought he was Christian. Why? Because his name is Chris. You thought he was Christian because his name is Chris.

[C]

I am Christian. Raised a Unitarian Universalist.

[A]

Wait, you thought he was Christian because his name is Chris? Yeah, I don't know if that's actually.

[B]

That.

[A]

That's.

[C]

That's a good reason.

[A]

That's a great reason. Yeah. Why would you. Why else would you be named?

[C]

That's why I was named Chris.

[A]

Shut up.

[C]

I'm serious.

[B]

Deadass.

[C]

Literally serious.

[A]

Actually, that is not a bad reason to think someone's name is a Christian if their name.

[C]

I mean, Chris, as my Jewish grandmother said, out of all the names, why did they have to pick that one?

[B]

Could everybody shut up?

[A]

I'm being dead serious.

[B]

What the fuck is everybody talking about right now? What the fuck. What the fuck is everybody really even communicating right now?

[A]

Should we issue. Should we issue an apology right now? Should we just do it straight to camera, apology video, to the Asian community, to whatever. Yeah, to that.

[B]

I mean, listen, this is the brilliant idiots. Here's the thing. This is the brilliant idiots, okay? That's all I can tell you. Positively brilliant. Positively idiotic. I don't know what else to tell you, bro. Like, we mean no harm. That is one thing that really does bother me, man. It bothers me when people try to label me anything, okay? I ain't none of that. I love people. I love human beings.

[A]

I know.

[B]

And I love laughing. If you can make me laugh, even at myself, I am all for it. I'm not here to hurt nobody. Amen to that. You don't gotta know that about. If y' all can let the guy with copa kalia just scream out shit, racial slurs and everything else, and say, well, it's his condition. He doesn't believe that. Why can't we just like a good joke?

[A]

That's our condition.

[B]

That's our motherfucking condition.

[A]

That's our condition.

[B]

And why can't we give criticism and just let it be constructive criticism? And we can agree to disagree on said criticism. Nothing. I. I am one of the most fluid people you will ever meet. Not sexual. You are fluid. Nah, you got bricked up over there. You started to yell out cheeks. But I am one of the most fluid people you will ever meet. If we sit down and you can make me change my mind on something or you present some new information, I'm all in.

[A]

Well, that's going to infuriate people who are just ideologues and they can only think one way about the world.

[B]

Unbelievable.

[A]

Maybe, maybe, just maybe, if they don't respect other people, they can't fathom you would.

[B]

That is a great.

[A]

So maybe their lack of acceptance and their lack of inclusivity is the reason why they judge you.

[B]

Charlotte. That is a great.

[A]

Some people would have to look in the mirror to see that.

[B]

What is that, Taylor? Men are the bad bitches.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

What is that?

[D]

It's this new trend going around.

[B]

What's the new train?

[D]

I just saw it, though.

[B]

It's not like I got tennis out. What is the new.

[E]

Don't play tennis.

[B]

Yeah, but it's from working out.

[D]

So apparently, like, men have purses now standing up on the.

[B]

That's old.

[D]

Is it? Yeah.

[B]

I mean, no, I'm saying, like, this old that men been hoes.

[A]

Yeah. Like, once the NBA players started dressing like women, it's the whole game got ruined.

[B]

Man, that's fraggle maggot fashion. That's what we call that. We call that fraggle maggot fashion. Here's the thing.

[A]

When is that gonna stop?

[B]

What? Being a fraggle maggot. Never.

[A]

Nah. But, like, who do we look to for cool now? Who's cool?

[B]

I keep telling y', all, there's a whole new crop of young artists. Spotify. I saw what y' all posted. I think it was rap caviar. We've been having this conversation for a while. That new crop of young artists is here. Salute to my niece, Nyla Simone. Nyla Simone did some of the coolest shit I ever seen. This weekend or this past weekend. She was in Atlanta. She's working on her album. She's putting together a project with this whole new generation of artists, and she had all of them in the studio at one time in Atlanta. Marco plus Reuben, Vincent, Kai Cash Nico Brim. Suave was down there. Lareezy was, I think. Did Lareezy come? I don't know if Lareezy was there, but he's definitely gonna be on the project, man. Who else was there? I can't remember, but it was at least 10, 12 artists that she had in one place. And these are all that whole new next generation salute to my man Gabe P On the radar. Gabe just did the New rap Class Volume 1 with all of those same people I just named Proof son from Detroit. What's his name? Oh, I can't remember his name. It start with an N. Oh, my God, he's so nice, man. Ben Reilly. Who else was on that freestyle? Oh, man.

[A]

Who's the. Who's the XXXTENTACION of this era?

[B]

You got better ones because you got guys. And I rest in peace to XX and Tatiana. You got guys who actually have lyrics. All of these people.

[A]

X could spit.

[B]

I think X was a good artist.

[A]

He was a really good artist.

[B]

I don't think he was a great lyricist, though. I think we keep getting that confused.

[A]

Okay, fair, fair. But I'm saying, like, who is that? Like, he was rebellious in nature, cool and rejected kind of popularism and status quo. And there was a gravitational force to him. Like I'm trying to understand, like, who is that now, man?

[B]

You got young boy. NBA Youngboy is definitely that.

[A]

So NBA Youngboy I think would probably be.

[B]

The young boy just went out here on an arena tour and sold out arenas. NBA Youngboy is definitely that. But the guy, the people I'm talking about, that's who is the next wave of.

[A]

But are they incredibly popular right now? Like during the Soundcloud rapper movement, they were rappling. So they are bubbling, bubbling.

[B]

And then you got people like, you know, the young girl win. You got people like, oh, what's the white dude name, man? Is it Marlon Craft? I think his name is. Let me hold. Let me make sure that's his name. Marlon. Is it Marlon Craft?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Marlon Kraft. He's a rapper. He white. Like, you got some phenomenal ass lyricists out here right now that are going to be the wave of this next generation of hip hop. And I'm just. Wait. Gay P did a great job with that rap radar. I mean, that on the radar, you know, New rap Class Volume 1 with Nyla coming with this album. And I'm telling you, do you see

[A]

any, like, singular person that has a stranglehold on youth culture right now and

[B]

maybe the stream gate up for it?

[A]

Yeah. You think he's yeah.

[B]

Hell yeah.

[A]

Crosses over to the whites, too.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hell yes.

[A]

He was living in Utah by government ordinance, right? Like, it's not like.

[B]

Yes. Them kids love NBA. Young boy 100%. Okay, let's do some. Let's do some asking idiots. Well, let's play some building then do some asking idiots. Taylor.

[A]

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[B]

Let's do some asking, idiot. Shosi.

[A]

Let's do it.

[D]

You didn't say something either.

[B]

What didn't I say?

[D]

Rest in peace.

[B]

Rest in peace. To power, man. Oliver Power Grant. He died at 52 years old. If you don't know who Power is, Power, arguably there would be no Wu Tang Clan, you know, without power. People always see the MCs, you know, they see the producers like RZA. And, you know, don't get me wrong, all of those brothers are visionary. But. But, you know, Powell was like the soul of Wu Tang Clan, the heart of Wu Tang Clan. He actually founded Wuware, which I thought was so dope because you remember Belly back in the day, he played Was It Knowledge? Was it Knowledge in Belly? And I always thought that product placement was dope because when he's on the phone, he's like, yo, he came up in the woowear store talking. And I just all. I love shit like that. I love when you have your own brand and you know, you're Able to put your own brand in a major film like Belly was. And just even the way he said woowear in that movie made you want Woo Wear even more. And you already wanted the Wu Wear. Cause of the W. Yo, son. Shit must have got funky out there last night. I'm up in the motherfucking Woo Wear store. Motherfucking news flash came on showing the whole shit. But yeah, just salute the power man.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Rest in peace. Great, brother. Power. You know what's so funny? Powell played when we did the Wendy Williams movie back in the day. Spent a lot of time with Power. Cause he played. There was a movie they did about Wendy Williams, and he played Wendy's husband. Yep. And Robin Givens played Wendy. Never came out, but yeah.

[E]

Wow.

[B]

Robin Givens. Robin Givens played Wendy, and Powell played Wendy's husband. But rest in peace, Power.

[E]

Man, Shirley, you're going crazy online by saying Mace wasn't.

[D]

I was gonna put that top two, top boy artist.

[B]

I didn't say that.

[E]

You said he's not even top five.

[B]

I didn't say that.

[A]

What did you say?

[B]

I said lyricist. By the way, we've had this conversation on beer and niggas before. I said lyricist. And by the way, that's not a diss and salute to Mace. Man. I don't even want this to come off like I'm, you know, hating hating on Mace or going at Mace. But this is just a hip hop conversation that. That pops up every now and then. Bad boy was the 96 dream team. They just were like, when it comes to rap, they were in a 96 dream team.

[A]

So who's the starting five?

[B]

I mean, if you do a starting five, base would be in the starting five. But I'm just talking about lyrics, right? Lyrics, lyricists, to me, lyrically, you got Biggie, got Jadakiss, you got Styles, you got Sheik, you got Black Rob. To me, that's just my personal opinion.

[E]

I don't know about that.

[B]

I know you don't, but ain't none of y' all ever listen to Black Rob and I'm. And the chic disrespect has to stop. I got people texting me right now. I don't know why y' all be acting. Can we give Sheik some problems? Can we make this a chic celebration?

[A]

Let's make it a chic celebration.

[B]

Why people act like chic is the weak link of the locks. Chic Looch, you're bugging. You don't love hip hop bug.

[E]

But if you forced to say 1, 2, and 3. They're three excellent lyricists, but I would put Chic at the bottom.

[B]

Yeah, but think about what you're saying. You're talking about Jadakiss and Styles, two of the greatest to ever do it. Yeah, but when you think about this is my personal opinion, When I think about those old Clue mixtapes and when they first started with, like, niggas done started something and all of that stuff like that, that. I don't know if people remember this, but Sheik was the standout because of his voice. Go back and listen to Niggas done started something and listen to how Sheik starts that song off. Go back to listen to Reservoir Dogs when Sheik says shut the fuck up and blast while I ban from TV your ass. Go listen to Chic on Benjamin. Like, what are we talking about? Go listen to Chic on Blackout. I just don't listen to Chic on D Block.

[E]

Even if you have Biggie and then the Locks, I do think Mace would come in.

[B]

Go listen to Sheik on Money, Power, Respect. Go listen to Sheik on 24 Hours of Fame.

[E]

Mace wrote so many of Diddy's Bars and Diddy's.

[B]

If we're talking about artists, if we're saying top Bad boy artists, Mace is the number two bad boy artist of all time. And it's not even close.

[E]

I'm talking about lyricists. I still think he's above Black Rob on lyrics.

[B]

You don't listen to lyrics then. Have you ever heard Life Story out? Life Story album got four and a half mics when it came out. And this is when mics mattered. Life Story got four and a half mics. Black Rob is one of the greatest storytellers ever told. The reason Black Rob don't get the credit he deserves is because he just came out at a weird time. It was like Biggie had passed away. I think Mace had already left. So Bad Boy was really just trying to find his footing again. And Whoa. Really crazy. Put Bad Boy back in a good space. And even though that album, I think, went like, double platinum, it's just something that didn't land with Rob. But the album went double platinum. You had a hit single in Whoa. And it got four and a half mics in the Source. When mics mattered.

[E]

And you put Black Rob above Shine.

[B]

Yes. I don't know why. And by none of this is a diss.

[E]

No, it's not diss.

[B]

It's the Olympic Dream team. It's a 96 dream team.

[A]

You can see why Mace would take Exception.

[D]

Of course.

[B]

Of course. By the way, listen, there is nothing that Mace said that was wrong on. It is what it is. But here's my problem, and it has nothing to do with Mace. I watched a bunch of you motherfuckers on YouTube do videos saying, why would Charlamagne even be critiquing Mace? Because at the time, and they were showing old videos, right? So they were like, you know, when Mace was a pastor, then he came back to rap. If Charv. I wouldn't even have commented on that. You fat motherfucker. You comment on everything every day. Like, every fucking day. You're doing a video about nothing. How you gonna ask a radio personality podcaster, why they just talking? The fuck are y' all doing every day?

[C]

Why?

[B]

Like, what the fuck? What are y' all doing? This is what we do. Yeah, I understand what Mace was saying, but, you know. Well, I'm sure Mace runs into the same problem, you know, when they're on it is what it is. There are people that they got critique about, and I'm sure they don't like it. I'm sure those athletes don't like when, you know, Mace and Cam have certain critique about, you know, certain individuals. It comes with the game. And guess what? You gotta deal with everything that comes with it. Cause Mace definitely ran down on me in Miami. See y' all motherfuckers don't be outside. You little fat motherfuckers behind the goddamn camera on YouTube, you don't come outside. We waiting for you to come outside. I'm waiting for some of y' all to come outside because I just wanna respect you. I don't respect you. I don't respect you. I don't respect them. The reason I don't respect them.

[C]

No.

[B]

I don't know why you saying. Whoa. Why you saying.

[E]

I'm just saying.

[B]

I'm talking about every single motherfucker that sits behind a computer and just talks. The reason I don't respect you, because you've never been confronted. I need you to get confronted and keep that same energy, okay? Keep that same energy. When Mace confronted me, same energy. We ended up having the conversation after, you know, everything calmed down. We ended up having a real conversation. And Mace told me exactly why he felt, you know, the way he felt. I've told this story a million times. Mace said he thought that we were blackballing him. I don't have that kind of power, brother.

[F]

So it seemed like every time something came up, Charlamagne would just talk about my name. Like, just go in A negative direction. I didn't know what was the connection that we had that or where our paths crossed or. Or what happened, but it just seemed like he always had a negative take about me. And it was something I remembered even when I started doing journalism. So when I hear people say certain things about me, I kind of try to remember that same thing. Like. Like, I never met this guy. I never. You know, I don't think we crossed paths. I don't think I know anybody that he knows. But every time, and I think is. I think it's possible for you to just not like somebody. So I remember one time I called DJ Envy, and I was like, yo, if somebody's consistently talking about you. And I at that time, I had no music out. You know, I had nothing out for you to keep talking about me. It's when you personally make it your business to tear somebody down, that's when it's a problem.

[B]

Salute to me. Yeah.

[A]

I don't think you could blame any artist for thinking they're nice.

[B]

Mace is nice.

[A]

Of course. Like, there's a version where Mace might be like, I was nicer than Biggie.

[B]

Come on. No, he wasn't, but. And why can't we just say we know he wasn't?

[A]

Yeah, but he might think he is. You know what I mean? If you ask Bron if he's better than Jordan, he's gonna say yeah, and he's not. But he's gonna say yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. It's like you, like, as an artist, I would imagine you need to be the most confident in your voice, who you are.

[B]

Very true.

[A]

We're not asking artists to be realistic about their expectations for asking them to be delusional. And that's kind of dope. You want to lean into that delusion.

[B]

But I don't think that was Mace Take. I think Mace Take was, you know, basically just don't use your platform to constantly bash somebody.

[A]

Oh, he felt like constantly criticizing.

[B]

He felt like I was just constantly, you know, bashing him. He was like, I don't know him. He was like, every time I hear him, it's something, you know, negative.

[A]

Well, I'm sure. And again, I don't know. But, like, I imagine, like you said, I'm sure there's certain people that they probably feel the same way about what

[B]

he said, and they listen to what it is. Listen, if you're any type of pundit, hip hop pundit, political pundit, you're gonna bother people, man. You're Gonna bother people. It is what it is. If you're going to have an opinion about somebody, you're going to bother them, okay?

[A]

And if you're not, then your opinions are boring.

[B]

Come on, man. I done been punched in the head on camera, all right? I done been coming out of the ATM and had people swing on me like.

[A]

You earned your opinion.

[B]

Put it down, God damn it. I earned every motherfucking opinion I got. And guess what? If you get punched in the face and keep talking, I respect you. So I need some of y' all to come outside and get punched in the face. I really do. I wanna respect this. I wanna respect this new generation.

[A]

You're saying that they only have these opinions because there's no cost.

[B]

By the way, all of us have gotten hit. There's no. Yo, Joe Budden has gotten punched in the eye.

[E]

That's true.

[B]

Wendy Williams got jacked up outside the radio station. You understand what I'm saying? Those are the people I respect in this. Because those people kept talking even after the fact. That's what I respect. You know what I mean? Because I'm not. Listen, and I'm not trying to be. I'm never. I want to say I'm never trying to be disrespectful, but boy, oh, boy, sometimes I go back and watch them old clips. I don't know what the was wrong. I'll be honest with y'.

[C]

All.

[B]

I really don't know.

[A]

I'm glad you could be honest about that.

[B]

I'm like. I looked at that and I was like, God damn. I said that because in my mind. In my mind. In my mind, I said something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I did say something. Say it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

With all the garnish around it.

[A]

Yeah, that's a lot of garnish.

[B]

All the seasoning.

[D]

It's like.

[A]

I was like, oh, that's what make it tasty.

[B]

That's what made it tasty, bro. I was think. I was like, what? Why the would I say that? I think I said some. Like, you can't reheat cold French fries. It was something, yo. It was something, yo. I promise you, I'm not even joking. I was reading something on a Vlad TV comment and some. We loved it, bro. Somebody left a comment and they was like. They quoted what I said and they put. And when I read it, I read it first, and I was like, damn, that's fire. And then when I finished reading it, they was like another classic CTG bar. And I was like.

[E]

I said that.

[B]

And I had to fucking Press. I had to press play and listen. And I was like, oh, shit. I said that? Yo.

[A]

What was it?

[B]

I don't even fucking remember, man. Hold on, let me see if I can find it. Yo. Let me see if I can find it.

[C]

Hold on.

[A]

Classic.

[B]

Hold on, let me see if I can find it. Do we do some asking, Idiots. Salute to Mace, though, man. I respect Mace. I respect what Mace has done on. It is what it is with Cam. I can't find this shit, man. I don't know. It don't even matter. Salute to Mace, though, man. Salute to Mason. It is what it is. I hate that this conversation even came up in this way. And the reason I hate that this conversation even came up in this way is because. Because we have to have discussions about things that really, truly don't matter. Does it really matter whether or not I think Mace's.

[D]

You hurt his ego?

[B]

Top five theorists on Bad Boy.

[A]

I think it matters because you're, you know, you have a massive platform and you shape opinions, but I don't.

[B]

You know why? Because it's mad people who disagree with me. And now you get to celebrate people. Now it's like, nah, you bugging Mace was that dude. Like, that's the conversation that happens right now. Don't get me wrong, there's some people that might agree with me, but then there's a lot more people who probably disagree with me. And now we get to talk about Mace. And I get to talk about guys like Black Rob, who I think are amazing. I get to talk about guys like Sheik, who I think are amazing. I think it's great for the ecosystem. People that love Mace can talk about Mace. Like, everybody has an opinion. You know what I mean? The way people probably feel when I talk about Mace is how I feel when I hear people talk about shit. I'm like, y' all fucking bugging Sheik is nice, right? Nice. Nice. So I just think it's a great conversation for the ecosystem.

[D]

You are a mastermind.

[B]

I'm a mastermind?

[D]

Yeah. I love how you. When you twist things around.

[B]

See what I'm saying? What the fuck did I do?

[D]

No, it's not. It's not a diss. I'm just saying, like, you know how to change the conversation. It's good.

[B]

I don't even know what you're talking about right now.

[A]

Yo, salute. Salute. Black Rob. Mace.

[B]

Black Rob.

[A]

The Locks. Let's do some absolute everybody, man.

[B]

Tough tunes, bro.

[A]

Salute them all.

[B]

Let's do some asking. Idiots. Taylor Gang. It's right Here, can we do some asking? Idiots, man. Y' all gonna stop disrespecting goddamn Sheik Luke, though. I know that much. Okay, you can like fucking chic Luch, bro. All right, hold on. I want. I just gotta hear this right now. Come on. Tonic Bombs not a in your gang. Wanted. For investment. A lot of other things, but that's a resume.

[A]

See? See what you mean? C. C, Change your opinion.

[B]

So not. She and Mace got busy. He was quoting Mace a little more than she.

[A]

I'm just saying. Whoa.

[B]

So you gonna act like Sheik didn't set that off?

[E]

He did.

[B]

Did he not go crazy on that?

[E]

So why you knew more of Mace than Sheik?

[B]

I like both of them. And I used to walk around with an aluminum bat.

[A]

All right?

[B]

Asking idiots. Uku. Graham. So if aliens are real, who would be the biggest intergalactal. Intergalactal rapper from planet Earth? Ooh. If aliens are real, do you really think they give a fuck about rappers? Rappers? Seriously? You think that there's a little extraterrestrial running around on another planet? You know what I'm saying? Singing niggas done started something.

[A]

They probably are. They probably are.

[B]

Who would be the biggest intergalactal rapper?

[A]

Imagine. Imagine you're an alien. You came here from another galaxy. Legacy.

[D]

And wouldn't it be Lil Wayne proper?

[A]

Oh, maybe.

[B]

Nah, nah. Cuz they. I mean. No, no, no. Who would they want to talk to if. If this is rap? This is a good question. If you had to take them to rap's leader, they came down and said, take me to your rap leader. Who would you take them to?

[C]

Too

[B]

easy question for me. Who?

[C]

Jake?

[B]

I. I'm active.

[A]

I say Jay, too, but he's not active.

[B]

But I. You want. But you want him to talk to the best of the best. I'm. I'm going say. I'm going say it Got to be a counsel. Go get me Jay. Go get me Nas. Go get me Scarface. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

We're just aging ourselves right now.

[B]

I don't care.

[A]

Are you trying to say. That's what I was asking about the youth. Like, who does the youth.

[B]

I just named you 20 young rappers.

[A]

Was.

[D]

Yeah, but he don't know them, though.

[B]

Well, that's his fault. Get with the times, bro.

[A]

You could barely know their names. You're like that one guy I said Marco.

[B]

Plus, he's my Marco. Plus Reuben, Vincent, Kai, Cash, Chris, Patrick, Nico, Brim.

[D]

But you can't name him any songs that he'll be Familiar with. That's what you.

[B]

I ain't got time for that, man. I can't even. I listen, I barely know my kids name, bro. I walk in. I walk in the house and be like, yo, that's just such like. That's not even her. You know what I'm saying? What? I do that all the time, Chris. I know you do that. Chris, you got.

[D]

He has two kids.

[B]

Yes. The more you'll see when you get another one, you're gonna be yelling for one and because be looking right at him and calling.

[D]

You know what, though? I do that with like my dog and him, though. Is that weird?

[A]

And you got mad at him saying it. That's crazy.

[D]

My dog has a name, though. I love my dog. If aliens, they're best friends.

[B]

You don't give a fuck.

[D]

They're best friends.

[B]

If aliens, dog.

[A]

If aliens come to Earth, you don't care about it. Do we have.

[D]

Stop playing with me. Stop playing with me.

[A]

Yo, if aliens came to Earth, do we. Do we stop calling illegals illegal aliens?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Like, we can only really call them that because there's no aliens.

[B]

They know it's aliens, though. Why do they do that? Why do they call them aliens if they know that it's. But actually it's extraterrestrials. Yeah, extraterrestrials is the word we're actually supposed to be using. But we could use aliens.

[A]

Yeah, we could use aliens. I think you could call them an alien. I don't think they'd be that upset about it.

[B]

Who? Extraterrestrial or what?

[A]

Yeah, an extraterrestrial. Huh? I don't think a real alien would be that upset if we called them an alien.

[B]

They would. They'd be like, what the are you even talking about? That's gonna be the funny part. They gonna come down here and be like. And you'd be like, damn, what's up, my extraterrestrial? I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? You'd be like, what's up, E.T. who the fuck is E.T. we named him that shit. That's how I feel about dogs and shit. Who the fuck told a dog it was a dog? We did. Okay, you're right. But did a dog ever say us, I'm a dog? No, we don't. Yeah, but like, it doesn't. A cow? Never said, I'm a cow.

[A]

I mean, people in South Korea are not Korean, I guess. You're saying, though, they have their own name for what they are.

[F]

No animals.

[A]

We just have. We just Call them Koreans because that's the English version.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Really? Yeah, they. They have the Korean term.

[B]

What are the Korean. What do they call it in Korea?

[E]

I don't know, but they have in

[B]

Japan it's get the out of here.

[A]

No dead ass. So they don't even call us Americans. They got their own word for us.

[B]

Is this true, Chris? That don't even make no sense.

[A]

Why does it not? Each language has their own word for that.

[B]

Makes no sense.

[A]

So when aliens tell them they're aliens,

[B]

you would name your whole country after something that somebody else made up?

[A]

No, we name ourselves and then they name us some other shit that they could pronounce.

[C]

Well, like in India, you can see that they've gone back to what the original names for a city like Mumbai. Mumbai, which used to be Bombay because the English called it Bombay and now they've returned it to what they say the original name is.

[B]

I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Learn something new every day on Brilliant Idiots. Zakop says morality subjective are objective. Subjective.

[A]

It's subjective, definitely subjective to your opportunity.

[B]

Expound on that.

[A]

It's like, like this. Like the Epstein is obviously horrible. I'm not talking about these guys, little girls. But I'm talking about like cheating, taxes and like insider trading and all that other stuff. I wonder if we could call our homie and be like, yo, I didn't pay taxes. The government wanted. Wants their fair share. Can you talk to the government and see if they can knock it down 50% or even more. I wonder if we wouldn't still do. I would hope that we wouldn't, but I have a hard time believing that human beings given the opportunity to enrich themselves wouldn't do it. The little girl stuff, no question. We would never do any of that stuff.

[B]

Obviously. But morality is subjective because they had no problem doing it. To them, that's not immoral. To them that's just a regular fucking Friday night on the island. Island. So once again, sadly, morality is subjective. It should be.

[A]

Or.

[B]

Or are the.

[A]

The richest, most powerful people in the world, do they have a disposition that lends them to that, that allows them to look past certain transgressions? Like if you are a maniacal, power hungry freak, maybe you don't care about human beings and because of that you could do these heinous acts.

[B]

But that's why morality is subjective. Sadly. It should be like morality should be universal laws across the board. We should be able to look at certain things and be like that's immoral. That's Wrong. But some people don't see things.

[A]

Luckily, we aren't rich enough to know.

[B]

I don't even think it's about rich. I really think that's gotta be something that's in you, bro.

[A]

I hope, I hope.

[B]

Nah, I really. I think that's already gotta be in you. Like, I don't think there's no amount of money that gets you to that level where you just, like, fuck it. Especially if you got kids. That's the strangest thing about it to me. If you actually have kids, why would you want to abuse a child in any.

[A]

That's why I'm saying the kids is separate. I'm talking about insider trading. I'm talking about, like, advantageous business relationships. I'm talking about taking advantage of information that you shouldn't have.

[B]

To me, it's the same.

[A]

Not the same.

[B]

No, no, no, no. Listen to what I'm saying. The thought process is the same. And I'm gonna tell you why. Because you're doing something that you know is wrong. You know it's wrong, but you're still like, fuck it.

[E]

Yeah, but like, we sold drugs once in a back in the day.

[B]

You're willing to take the risk. You knew it was wrong, but you still were like, fuck it. Like, there's something that. There's some part of your brain that makes you feel like either you don't think you can get caught or you don't care about the concept.

[A]

I think that's what it is. I think that, like, human beings unfortunately do what they can get away with. And the more wealthy and the more powerful you get, the more shit you could get away with. So, like, the average person might be able to get away with. Literally. So they litter. The wealthiest people on the planet can get away with the most heinous shit imaginable. So they do. I would like to believe that our morality would stay intact as we became more successful and got more power.

[B]

I'll tell you something. I don't even think it's about wealth because sometimes I think it's about anointing. And I'm going to tell you what I mean by that. There's certain people I can look at and they're doing things that I know if I do, God going to kick my ass. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

That's why I like believers, right? Because they. There's. There's a higher law, there's a higher precedent.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Right. There's something. Someone else is judging them outside the confines society or jail. Time or these things. Eternal damnation. So I like the idea that there are these human beings that are answering to this power, not answering to societal concepts.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

Who've also done some of the most immoral things in the history of the world.

[A]

You're right. You're right. I'm not saying they haven't, but I just like the idea that there's a fail safe to. Oh, well, the Congress is going to pass a law. It's like, like, all right, well, these billionaire. They might not care about Congress passing that law.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But they might care about what God says.

[B]

Yeah. I believe in the law. Maybe we would hope then.

[C]

If you're a conquistador. Right. They were believers. They thought they were doing God's work. They were some of the most immoral.

[B]

You're right.

[C]

Violent people in history.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

By whose standards though? That. Once again, that shows you that morality is subjective.

[C]

That's the danger of religion. Because in their mind they were justified. Because if you're a heathen and you're given the. The opportunity to accept Christ and you reject that opportunity, well, then your life is worthless and killing you doesn't matter.

[A]

Well, if you're a true believer, then it should be God that judges you, not you.

[B]

Hey, man, there's just certain things I know that I see people do that. If I did, you know that immediately boom. Like, like, immediately, like, oh, fuck. And I knew it. You ever seen Back to The Future Part 2, when Marty McFly is old and he's sitting in his room and I forgot what it was. I think it was a bet he made or something he did. And he was, he just. It's like he was fighting himself about whether or not to do it. And he was like, fuck it, I'm gonna do it. And he did it and immediately lost everything. Like, I'm talking about, like, you don't remember that scene? Like, immediately lost everything came. The facts came in like, you're fired. His balls pops up on the screen like, we saw you. Like, that's how I know my life goes. So it's just like.

[A]

So that keeps you on the straight in there.

[B]

Absolutely. I got too much of an annoying. I see it. I've seen it too much in my life to even play with it. And why would I play with it when God has blessed me?

[C]

You're right.

[B]

Like, what the. What more do I need?

[A]

Yeah, like, you're right.

[B]

Underscore. Tapo, underscore says, what causes you guys to overthink what you said? Or did. And how do you get out of it? Log off. Just log off. Log off. Y' all be sending me all that old, you know what I mean? Some of it. I don't even know if I said it or not. You know what I mean? Some of it is AI, you know what I mean? So I'm too old at this point. So I'm confused. And I don't know if I really

[A]

did say it, because AI is the new Tourette's.

[B]

AI is the new Tourette's. But I'm going to tell you something,

[A]

man, if you say such a.

[B]

It ain't nothing worse when you hear some wild and you don't know if you said it or not. Sound like some shit.

[A]

That was AI. That was AI. That was AI. That is the new Tourette's. That was AI.

[B]

I beat myself up. Cause I'll be looking to see did I really? I gotta see if I said this.

[A]

You only do that if it's funny,

[B]

that. No. Eh, depends if it's funny.

[A]

You like? Ah, I'll take that.

[B]

It's all funny.

[A]

The shit that stands.

[B]

It's so funny. Yeah, that's why this shit is so funny. Cause these kids be on TikTok and they be pulling up shit that I forgot about.

[A]

Yeah, they're just finding it.

[B]

Oh, my God, can that shit be funny?

[A]

Those kids know you as like, you gotta protect your mental health. And mental health is the most important thing ever. And then they see a clip from you from 10 years ago and they

[B]

like, I see why that motherfucker started going to therapy. That motherfucker needed that.

[A]

He was hurting.

[B]

That motherfucker was hurting, boy. God damn. But yeah, just log off.

[A]

Yo, we never had this. Can I do an ask an idiot? We never had this conversation about. Forget who said this. It might have been Nick Wright, the sports journalist, about how to fix the All Star Game. White versus black, White versus black.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, that's cool because I mean, racism always sell, baby.

[A]

I mean, we know for a fact that the first one would be the most viewed game ever.

[B]

It actually would be interesting because people will be like, yes, finally America. You know what I'm saying? Be who you are. You know what I mean? But it would be interesting because it would be. It would make what makes sports. It would take away from what makes sports great.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

The fact that we all love sports because we all come together to root for one team. You know what I mean? We all got on the same jersey. We don't give a fuck what race A person is. We're just happy to be cheering on our team, whether it's basketball or football, whether those couple of hours, it's just like, yeah, man, we all fucking Eagles. We're all Cowboys, all Redskins. Why you want to bring that to sports? No, no, no, it's already there. Is it?

[C]

Andrew, have you ever been on an all white team?

[B]

Chris is so triggered from last week when he had. Remember we made him talk about getting called a white boy on the court. Or was it the week before that?

[A]

Oh, yeah, it was a few weeks ago. But the white boy. Shit, yeah, yeah, I might know. But you're on.

[C]

If you're on all five white guys, pickup league, whatever. You happen to have a team with five white guys, you take on a team that's all black, mostly black back.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And the white guys start winning, the black guys go nuts, right? Like, it's always a subtext in those games because they're like, there's no way we're going to lose these guys. It's not happening. And then a couple back door cuts, couple weaves. Couple weaves, a couple little extra passes, then we got a problem.

[A]

Right. So you're saying it's a great idea for the NBA?

[C]

Oh, it's a terrible idea, but it's not. It's not something that's being manufactured, right?

[B]

They doing that because they trying to make Cooper Flag and Austin Reeves the next guys. Yo. No, like, they would have never even bought this up 10 years ago.

[A]

They're not doing the idea. This was never doing it.

[B]

But Nick Wright would have never said this 10 years ago trying to save

[A]

the All Star Game.

[B]

The All Star Game was great this year.

[A]

Nobody watched it, nobody cares. The reality is that we would care for one game and then it would be a blowout and then we wouldn't care anymore.

[B]

You know why nobody cares about the NBA All Star Game?

[A]

Cause why?

[B]

Because as you're talking about with rap, there isn't a new generation of stars yet. It's supposed to be Ja, it's supposed to be Zion. You have Anthony Edwards. And then like, you got a bunch of foreigners like, yo, I love shy Jokic Giannis.

[A]

You write about the.

[B]

They not gonna ever be like this. Not happening. They would've been the faces of the league already. Giannis got a ring and Mill 1.

[A]

We want homegrown stars.

[B]

He was from Newark.

[A]

Nah, you're right. We want homegrown stars. It's a fact.

[B]

If fucking. Can you imagine if Joker was from Kansas? They would build a statue of him in front of every arena.

[A]

Oh, you are. 100%.

[B]

You are. He's like Big Cornbread or some shit. That'd be his nickname. You know what I mean?

[A]

They would say he's the greatest player of all time easily.

[B]

If he was from Kansas or something like that. That's the problem with them, I think

[C]

if he also had a personality that

[B]

leaned into that, he wouldn't even have to have.

[A]

He wouldn't even need it, bro.

[B]

He was from Kansas. He'd just be out there. Big cornbread out there giving people people buckets. Joker. I've never seen nothing like jokers. And nobody cares because he's from another country.

[A]

It's true. It's hard. Yeah. We want homegrown. We want homegrown.

[B]

That's what it is, Steph. Homegrown. LeBron. Homegrown. Larry Bird was homegrown. Matt Johnson was homegrown. AI was homegrown. You got to be homegrown. You can't point me to the yo. As great as Dirk was not homegrown. Dirk won a chip in Dallas. Probably had the toughest, toughest, you know, road to a championship ever. It's just like he's so underappreciated. He's the chic Lucha. The NBA?

[A]

Nah.

[C]

So who's the top homegrown white guy in the NBA currently?

[B]

Cooper Flag. Easily.

[A]

I haven't watched him that much this season. Is he nice?

[C]

Yeah, he's legit.

[B]

Cooper Flag.

[A]

You think they give him the keys?

[C]

He already got the keys. They traded in.

[B]

Austin Reeves is going to be a problem too. Austin re they all 15. Wow.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Why they got a name that conspiracy. The. I'm saying, you see what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah. You don't name the white boy cuz he is a shooter.

[B]

You see what I'm saying?

[A]

And they call him AR15.

[B]

If I was him, I'd walk. I'd walk into the arena in a black trench coat every.

[A]

No, Charlotte, don't do it to him.

[B]

Okay, let's face him, Bill. Oh, no. Let's. Andre the Outlaw. Starting my first radio job at a small station, 95.3 to river. Any advice for a guy chasing his dream? I hope that. Don't let them abuse you. I hope the station you're on allows you to be a personality. I hope that you, you know, have another outlet. Like a podcast.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so you can, you know, showcase your personality. Because that radio station may not allow you to, you know, like that you might move. You might have to go in the Radio station and just, you know, be an announcer. I don't know. I don't know, you know, the station. I would rather ask for permission than forgiveness. Any. I mean, I'd rather ask for forgiveness than permission anyway. So I think you should go on the station and just showcase your personality. But yeah, do that and be a first rate version of yourself, not a second rate version of somebody else. Don't look around at anybody else in radio and see what they're doing that's successful. Find your lane, find your niche and you'll be okay. Andre the Outlaw Taylor. You have any? Yeah.

[D]

Just don't let them take advantage of you.

[A]

Damn. What's happening?

[D]

This is how I feel about it.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Charlotte, what's up over there at iHeart?

[B]

I don't know, man. I don't know.

[D]

You know the situation.

[A]

Why would they take care of Taylor? She shows up to work at least half the time. You know, I can't imagine. I can't imagine why they would take advantage, Philip.

[B]

I do.

[A]

You got a lot of pull over there.

[B]

I love Taylor. I mean, we. We. We got things working out for Taylor. Taylor figuring things out. It's just. I don't know why the fuck we

[A]

having this conversation, but.

[B]

No, Taylor has options. Okay? I'll say that she has options. Arsenal Lavega says if other world leaders face accountability, then what should the US do about Epstein Fox?

[A]

Lock them up.

[B]

Oh, it's going to happen, though. You do know.

[A]

Lock them up.

[B]

But you know what's happening. Happening.

[A]

You feel it.

[B]

It's happening.

[A]

Tell me.

[B]

Tell. It's happening all over the world. You see, I didn't realize.

[A]

It's happening around the world. I don't know if it's happening here, but.

[B]

But I looked it up. I didn't know how many people resigned from their positions because they were named in ft, pal. Right here in America.

[A]

Resigning is one thing. Doing the perp walk is a different thing.

[B]

It's kind of just. It's coming.

[A]

They gonna lock up Prince Andrew for sure. That's happening.

[B]

It's coming. It's gonna take. It's gonna take a new administration.

[A]

You saw the Prime Minister of Norway, the ex.

[D]

It's gonna take a new administration to lock him up.

[A]

He tried to kill himself in prison.

[B]

I saw that.

[A]

So he tried to commit suicide because he had connections with the Epstein stuff and they were prosecuted for. And he tried to commit suicide. I guess they stopped him. They didn't let him do a Epstein. Anyway. How bad is the. That you got?

[B]

It's going to come to America, it's going to take another administration. But when there's a new administration in and a new DOJ and a new attorney General.

[A]

So that's the thing. It's like, so, no, so, so, so. Well, we. Here's the thing. The new administration can't be part of the old guard because the old guard has protected these people for decades. If you have a true new administration like administration that is backed by people like Ronna or Thomas Massie, yes, I see a pathway to that. But if you get one of these old guard politicians that has been, you know, maintaining the status quo for decades, we have no reason to believe that they would expose this. Right.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think. No, those do exist, but I don't think those will ever be in power again.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I really don't. I think what you said is true. It'll be like Thomas Massey's the Roll Con. I don't see that old regime being in power ever again.

[D]

So I have a question then. If that's the case, then why are they even releasing all this stuff while there's not an administration?

[B]

That's a great question. I have a theory and that I've expressed a million times already. And I think that that theory is the fact that somebody wants this information out because they're tired of, of these people that are in power right now. I really truly believe that. Then I. Then yesterday. Why do these things keep leaking? Yesterday it leaked. What was it that got. Yeah, that they found out that they did keep certain things from Trump out of the file.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why does this stuff isn't just leaking for no reason? And I know this shit gotta be driving him crazy. Cause he's like, what the fuck, yo, who the fuck is the rat?

[A]

He also ran on transparency on it. So it's just the weirdest thing in the world that you would run on transparency and then. Then purposely try to not be transparent about it. Now I think what happened is they thought, I think the administration thought it was just an Internet thing.

[C]

Really.

[A]

That's what I. It's got to feel like that they're like, oh, this is just an Internet thing. This is 4chan, this is whatever. And like they're not going to really care. And we just give them a little binder and then it will go away. And it didn't go away. And now they're like, oh shit, we actually got to expose some of this. So they're giving them the low hanging fruit. They give them a couple big names, but they're Trying to protect the big

[B]

dogs, but that's what it was. Epstein files are missing records about women who made claim against Trump. DOJ has not released some Epstein files related to a woman who made an allegation against Trump. The fact that stuff like this keeps leaking lets me know that somebody is fed up with Donald J. Trump.

[A]

So here's the thing. I'm wondering. Let's say it's a future administration. We'll know for a fact if there's horrendous shit in there that affects not only Trump, but all the other elites, all of his cronies, if they try to do something towards the end of this administration where they, like, seal the files, you know, where they try to just be like, okay, the Epstein thing is completely closed and we're closing this in perpetuity. I don't even know if that's a legal thing they could do. I think they did seal the JFK files, if I'm not mistaken, but I don't know if they did. Right, right.

[B]

Well, the war, national security or some like that.

[A]

They make some excuse. So if they do something like that, then, you know, everybody, Everybody is involved. And if they do that, and there's no objection from the old guard left as well, if they're like, oh, yep, I feel like we've got enough justice and that's it, you know, they're protecting as well.

[B]

I don't, I, I agree with you, Schultz, but I don't think that whoever is. Had it up to here with this administration and is using this to really, really be the. Which is crazy. To really be the black eye. They not going to let it be sealed.

[A]

They shouldn't.

[B]

They're going to keep dropping everything. We need to know.

[A]

Nobody should let it be sealed.

[B]

This shit right here where they said about the, the thing that, what they said the DOJ has not released some FT fathers related to a woman. This gonna come out somewhere. Guarantee you it's gonna come out somewhere.

[A]

So you think you have insiders that

[B]

continue to leak so good.

[A]

Keep leaking.

[D]

Ever since y' all said the thing, like, who's bigger than bigger? Or what's his name? Bill Gates. Yeah, that. I cannot stop thinking about that.

[A]

Like, who's small potato Bill Gates?

[D]

Yeah. Like when you guys said.

[A]

I was like, oh, he just issued an apology. Saw that.

[D]

Yeah, he's.

[B]

He's, he's crazy. He's the person apologizing.

[E]

But it's.

[B]

What did he say?

[A]

Smart.

[B]

The way he said it.

[E]

He's like.

[B]

He said he told st. Yeah. He. He apologized and told staffers about his affair with Russian women. Yeah, he said he cheated on Melinda with two Russian women. Women apologize for Epstein. Get out of here, Bill.

[E]

And both of them.

[B]

Just two. Just two.

[A]

It was just two.

[B]

Yeah, I've been there, Bill. Okay. I know what the fuck that means when you. If you admit the two.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If you admit the two. Goddamn. You know what time it is? Get the fuck out of here.

[A]

You get an std one out of the two times you fuck a hooker.

[B]

I never had STD in my life.

[A]

No, Bill did.

[B]

Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying. Me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't even know why I knocked on wood, because I ain't never getting one either. But I just did it just because. Never practiced bad habits.

[D]

Yo, the lies y' all come over when y' all cheat is crazy.

[B]

Who the fuck cheats?

[D]

Because you know why? Because I had an ex that he. Okay, long story short, we were on a break, right? We were about to get back together. No, listen. We were about to get back together, and he was like, no, I can't. Like, I'm. I'm burning.

[A]

Whatever.

[D]

And he said he got. From a dirty toilet.

[B]

Why can't you respect that, man?

[D]

Yo, shut the hell up.

[B]

Dirty toilets in Philly.

[C]

Shut up.

[B]

Yeah, that is so.

[D]

That sounds. First of all, he was even in Philly. He was in. He went to a school in Pennsylvania. I'm not even gonna say, but Pennsylvania

[B]

is known for dirty toilets. Like, oh, really, Chris, you're from there. Please tell him about the dirty toilet.

[C]

Filthy. Filthy.

[B]

Yes. There was mad people getting.

[D]

You can get STD from it. So you're fucking the toilet.

[E]

What is Chris, though? He squats.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

He still got a dick. It was mad people who got STDs from toilet. Google it. See you. See you. You know what, though? I'm glad that you with P now. Okay? Cause you didn't miss your blessing. But at the time, you missed your blessing. Cause you didn't believe that man. You never heard of getting gonorrhea from a toilet?

[A]

You accepted him back after he was.

[D]

No, I didn't. No.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

He was honest with you.

[A]

That man was honest with you.

[B]

You know what it took for that man to tell you that he got gonorrhea from a toilet?

[D]

Yeah, he would rather have had. Like, he wanted to chill with his friends a lot more than he wanted.

[A]

So maybe he got. Maybe he got some gay.

[D]

Exactly. Maybe.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You can. Don't get mad at him because his friend, his homies got Better head.

[A]

Yeah, his homie better head.

[B]

And you got upset. That's so crazy.

[A]

He turned a guy gay and you're angry at him.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

You could have kept him straight, yo.

[B]

Is that not crazy? He really is fucking you mad because his homies get better head. I'd rather be with my homies homies than you. Says a lot.

[A]

Taylor, that does.

[B]

You better count your blessings. Goddamn. You know what? Let's get her home before she lose everything. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know, you're right too. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace. You're out of control.

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