Cringe Watching

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Brilliant Idiots – Episode: Cringe Watching (June 20, 2025)

Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz

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1. Cannes Lions Festival and Media Dynamics

The episode kicks off with Charlamagne sharing his recent experience at the prestigious Cannes Lions Festival. He clarifies a common misconception, distinguishing it from the Cannes Film Festival by explaining that Cannes Lions is a convergence point for the advertising and communication industry. Charlamagne highlights the competitive nature of media companies attending the event to showcase their best work and secure advertising deals.

Charlamagne ([04:24]):
"What I see when I'm there is literally all the media companies across the country, all the media companies across the world, they come to Cannes, France, and they just try to convince every company to spend money with them."

He recounts notable moments, such as Spotify hosting Cardi B and iHeart featuring personalities like Questlove and Malcolm Gladwell at their event, the iHeart Cafe. The ambiance was bustling with top-tier talent, including Eva Longoria, who invested in iHeart's podcast network, the Brown Effect Network.

2. Club Quarantine and the Blakely Thornton Incident

Transitioning from the festival, Charlamagne narrates an incident at Club Quarantine, a popular nightlife spot during the festival. He describes a situation where a stranger, Blakely Thornton, unexpectedly began consuming the Dom Perignon Rosé bottles Charlamagne had purchased.

Charlamagne ([12:35]):
"There was some homophobia because he reached for my bottle, and I didn't know him. All I said was, 'Yo, you drinking my liquor, dog.'" ([14:40])

Blakely's actions led to a misunderstanding, culminating in a public accusation of Charlamagne being homophobic. Charlamagne vehemently denies these claims, emphasizing the lack of proper introduction and the overpriced nature of the beverages involved.

Charlamagne ([16:51]):
"But how do we jump to homophobia? That's crazy to me." ([17:39])

3. Discussing AI and Its Societal Impacts

The conversation shifts to the broader implications of Artificial Intelligence (AI). The hosts delve into Malcolm Gladwell's insights on AI's potential role in education, particularly in teaching methods. Charlamagne expresses skepticism about AI replacing the nuanced, human elements essential in teaching children, especially those facing personal challenges.

Charlamagne ([103:56]):
"What you got to factor in is all of that stuff. I don't think AI can ever properly teach you how to deal with the real world."

They debate the future of AI, pondering whether it will drive society back to valuing real-life experiences over virtual interactions. Chris draws parallels between AI's impact and the evolution of hip-hop, suggesting that overreliance on artificial elements can lead to a loss of originality and authenticity.

4. New York City Mayoral Race Analysis

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the New York City Mayoral race. The hosts discuss the candidates, focusing on Eric Adams and Zoran, and their respective strategies to garner support from diverse voter bases.

Chris ([44:23]):
"I think Eric Adams is going to have no problem, kind of, especially in the climate with Israel. Really, like, leaning into. Yeah, he is a pro-Israeli stance."

They express concerns about Adams' ability to secure the Jewish vote without alienating other communities and scrutinize the political dynamics, including endorsements and campaign tactics.

5. Appearance on The Neighborhood Talk Podcast

Charlamagne recounts his appearance on The Neighborhood Talk, where he was portrayed as engaging in "cringe-worthy" behavior intended to fit the show's format. During the appearance, a clip emerged accusing him of homophobia, which he vehemently disputes, asserting that the interpretation was misaligned with his actual intentions.

Charlamagne ([18:47]):
"He accuses me of being homophobic because I don't know you, my brother..." ([17:50])

6. Promotion of Mandy and Wheezy's Book

The hosts take time to promote Mandy and Wheezy's upcoming book, "No Holds Barred," a dual manifesto on sexual exploration and power. Charlamagne shares his admiration for the duo, highlighting their ability to navigate and thrive in the podcasting world.

Charlamagne ([74:53]):
"And they really have conversations about being sexually liberated in a real intellectual way... this is a great read, man."

7. Asking Idiots Segment: Listener Questions

In the interactive segment, listeners pose questions to the hosts, prompting discussions on personal growth, consistency in achieving high goals, and the challenges of public parenting.

Jaycarnelius Abdon CAA ([105:38]):
"What are the top 10 things you have done to become a high achiever?"

Charlamagne responds by emphasizing the importance of consistency, self-improvement, and staying humble.

Charlamagne ([111:09]):
"The most important thing I think is just being consistent. Being consistent is what ultimately pays off."

Another listener, Keaton Holmes, poses a hypothetical scenario about choosing between being drafted into World War III or vacationing in Ukraine. This sparks a critical conversation about global tensions and the potential realities of nuclear warfare.

Chris ([82:43]):
"Once one flies, how quickly they all fly. There's no such thing as 'light' nuclear weapons."

8. Final Reflections and Future Plans

Towards the end, Charlamagne reflects on the evolution of podcasting and the significance of authentic voices in media. He underscores the importance of creating platforms that allow diverse stories and perspectives to thrive without being overshadowed by traditional media narratives.

Charlamagne ([73:24]):
"I think the beauty of it was people who weren't in media deciding that they wanted to launch platforms. That's why I always thought... people can become real voices by telling their own unique stories."

He also touches upon future episodes, hinting at guest hosts and upcoming promotions, ensuring listeners remain engaged and informed about the dynamic landscape of their podcast.

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Notable Quotes:

• Charlamagne ([14:40]): "You drinking my liquor, dog."

• Charlamagne ([17:39]): "But how do we jump to homophobia? That's crazy to me."

• Chris ([44:23]): "I think Eric Adams is going to have no problem, kind of, especially in the climate with Israel."

• Charlamagne ([111:09]): "The most important thing I think is just being consistent."

• Chris ([82:43]): "There’s no such thing as 'light' nuclear weapons."

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This episode of The Brilliant Idiots masterfully intertwines personal anecdotes with pressing societal issues, from media dynamics and nightlife experiences to the profound impacts of AI and political discourse. Through engaging dialogue and candid reflections, Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz provide listeners with a thought-provoking exploration of the "cringe" moments that intertwine with brilliance in today's world.

Transcript

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Chris]

I mean, it means where they'll go in with essentially, like, a massive. Almost like a shovel thing, take out some of the bottom of the ocean floor, in this case, I'd imagine, so that it's not deep enough. Essentially, the harbor. His. His yacht was so big that it probably wasn't deep enough, and they had to create space for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's exactly what it was. It's dredging. And that's what they said. I started to tell y' all that they had to put more water in the ocean, but that didn't make. But it was dredging. They had to dig deeper so his boat could go there. So basically, his boat was so big that a bunch of other companies last year was like, well, fuck it, we not even gonna do no yachts. We gonna trigger something else out. And so I heart started doing this thing called the Iheart Cafe. And it was dope. I should have took pictures of video, but it's like you literally walking down the Strip and. And you see, like, this big. They rented out this restaurant and called it the I Heart Cafe. So literally, for the last, you know, four or five days, we would. All of the different companies would just come to this cafe and, you know, have. Have meetings with us, you know, because, you know, they'll say, hey, this is the talent that's going to be there. Like, they'll be like, charlemagne is going to be here. Malcolm Gladwell is going to be here. Eva Longoria was there because Eva Longoria just invested into iHeart's podcast network, my Katora, which I call the Brown Effect, the Brown Effect Network. So it's the Latino podcast network. She just invested in that. So she was there. And so it was just dope. You know, all of the companies come and they have conversations with us, and we just, you know, tell each other what we can do for each other. And salute to Mandy and Weezy. Their book, no Holds barred, comes out June 24th. And it was dope. Cause Mandy and Wheezy came out there for the week, and they really. Even though I always knew this, there's a reason Mandy and Weezy are who they are. Because when you take the time to say, oh, that's where the money is. That's who I need to be in front of, and you get on a plane and fly to Cairns Lions just to be in the mix and let everybody at Black Effect and everybody at Iheart know I'm gonna be there, so use us. And that's exactly what happened. Like, you know, they was at the Iheart Cafe, and, you know, we had a dinner one night, and it was myself and Malcolm Gladwell and Questlove and Eva Longoria and Buck from the Buck and Clay show. Cause, you know, he's part of iHeart. And Weezy and Mandy just. They got introduced to that whole crowd and got to speak on the mic. And they were Wheezy and Mandy to the fullest. They were everything that you would expect decisions, decisions to be. And they had the audience going. And then, you know, they made Eva Longoria come up and read. By the way, unprompted wasn't scripted. They had Eva Longoria come up and read pages out of no Holds Bark.

[Alex]

Wow. Did she censor herself while reading? Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. They had a whole conversation about masturbation. And why it's healthy from that. From that one little situation. So, yeah, it's a dope event, man, for people to be too. I don't. It's. It's not something you can just pull up at, though. Cause, like, they literally charge you for passes to be at the Cannes Lions Festival. And, like, the passes get you into, you know, different events. And I don't even want to tell you what the number. Oh, wow. Is for these passes. Like, it's, It's. It's. It's ridiculous.

[Alex]

Nah. But Bezos really fucked it up for everybody because a cafe doesn't sound as fun as a yacht.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I'll say this. The cafe was fun. It was. Actually, to me, it might have been funner because it's. The yachts don't go anywhere. Like, so the yachts are just docked. Like, it's not like they go out to, you know, they go out to the water. They just dock. And so, you know, one year, the Black Effect, we act. Like two years ago, we actually had a party on the yacht, like the first. I think we got there on, like, a Sunday, and we had a party that Monday, because everything really kicks off on that Monday, and we had a party out there. But it was. It's really just a thing for media companies, and, you know, it's media companies and brands that's lit. That's literally what it's for. So if you in that space, it's a good space to be in. But I, I. You know, it was just good to see talent like Mandy and Weezy out there just because, you know, it just shows me that their mind is on. Is this on something bigger than just being a podcast host, to be totally, totally honest with you. So, yeah, that's where I was. And I wanted to come home after four or five days, I mean. Cause it's work. It's working. It's fun, you know, being out there building with everybody. But no.

[Alex]

Nah. But I saw there was some play there too, because. Looked like he was at some party. I saw Wheezy dropping it low on your story, so. Looked like he was. I don't know what type of work that was, but there was some work going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, that's D. Nice. Does club quarantine out there every year? Oh, every year since I've been there, I've been there for, like. I. It's my third time, so I went two years in a row. Didn't go last year and went this year. Every year I've been there. D. Nice has Done. Club Quarantine. And he does it with. What's the name of that company? I think it's Group Black is the name of the. Is the name of the company. So it's like a nighttime event. And it's literally like every black. I would say every black person in Kansas. But it was totally different this year. Cause the word done got out about how dope Club Quarantine is. Cause there was a lot of white people in the event as well. But it also was D. Nice's birthday, and it was my girl Debbie Brown's birthday. Debbie Brown was out there working as well. So she turned 40. And so we was just all in the club last night. She turned 40. What was it? June. What's today, the 19th? Yeah, June 18th. And then D. Nice's born day is actually Juneteenth. June 19th. So we was all in the club last night for Club Quarantine. Yeah. So Wheezy was in there, being Wheezy. I actually had a dude. I had. I had. I had a. A guy accuse me of being homophobic.

[Chris]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can. You know what's so funny?

[Alex]

He hasn't listened to an episode of Brilliant Idiots.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Clearly. Yeah. But, you know, it's so funny. I might put. I'm gonna put this clip in the. In the episode. What's my man's name? I'm gonna shout him out, too. What's his name? His name is.

[Chris]

Oh, I'm gonna tell you his name right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

His name is Blakely Thornton. You ever heard of Blakely Thornton?

[Alex]

Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I had never heard of Blakely Thornton either. Salute to Blakely. You know, we were in Club Quarantine, D. Nice's party. And, you know, it's sections. It's sections in this club, right? Cause it's in a casino. So it's sections in this club. And so, you know, different people come in, and they're in different sections. So, you know, I came in. I was in A section, and then, like, you know, they put JB Smooth in our section. So it was like, me and JB Smooth. And then, like, next to us was, like, Mary J. Blige. And Ludacris was in A section. And then, like, Steve Stout came in, and Steve Stout, he was over there with Mary and Luda, and he came over there and kicked it with us for a little while. So I don't. I don't know what the. I don't know what it was, but they were just putting different people in different sections, you know, together. Because it's not like the sections are small. And so, first of all, you know, I don't even like the clubs. I hate the clubs, right? But it's Cannes, France. My wife likes going to Club Quarantine. Dolly likes going to Club Quarantine. It's Devi's Born Day. Fuck it. We go to Club Quarantine every year. It's a cool vibe. Cause, you know, D Nice is in there playing, you know, old black songs, like, you know, all the great Negro spiritual. So we in there drinking, having a good time. You know, it's our age bracket, it's our generation.

[Chris]

Best case scenario.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Best case scenario, right? And then it's canned. So it's like everybody in there is a professional for the most part, right? So you're just in there having a good time, but it's nothing free, so you gotta buy bottles. So the main reason I hate buying bottles is because when you walk into a motherfucking liquor store and you see something like Dom Perignon, and it's only like. Matter of fact, let me look that up. How much is. How much is a bottle of Don Perrion Rose in a liquor store? Let me see. Don Perrion Rose? What is that in a store? Let me see. What. What is that. What is that price in the store?

[Chris]

Hold on.

[Alex]

It's about 300.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. I'm looking at one that says, this is for a 2008 bottle. Let's just say. Okay, let's just say $300. I'm not even gonna tell you how much that cost in this motherfucking club. But if you say it's $300, I'm just gonna tell y' all, it's like a eight. It's marked up, like, eight times.

[Alex]

Yeah. Hey, that's the club, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I'm looking at it. It's in Euros. Oh, but now I gotta do that. I'm like, yo, how much is Euros in American? Like, but it's not that far apart. But the bottle is like. It's a. It's. It's. You do the math. If it's 300 in stores and I mark it up times eight, you do the fucking math, right? I'm like, shit, I buy two bottles, being conservative, right. Ended up buying three. Now, as I told y' all, they're bringing other people into the sections, right? So my wife is very small. My wife, Aunt Dolly, they was like, yo, close out your card. The reason you should close out your card is because people are ordering things. Yep. And your card seems to be the only one that's on on, on file right now.

[Alex]

Yeah, you Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got it. You're right. So the waiter comes over and the waiter's like, you know, this person ordered that person. I said, no, I ordered these three bottles of Dom Perignon Rose right here. Nothing else. This is what we ordered. You know, everybody with me, they drinking, having a good time. The brother Blakely, I don't know the brother. Never met the brother in my life. Never heard of the brother. No disrespect intended. He came over to the section, he walks in the section. I remember giving him a pound, right? And then at some point later, well, no, he gave me a pound. And then at one point, the waiter was pouring drinks, and the waiter was just, you know, you know, the waiter's sitting with the bottle, he's pouring different drinks for everybody, giving people drinks. And I saw him, you know, wanting a drink. And the waiter, you know, looked at me like. And I'm like, yeah, go ahead, pour him a drink. I didn't care. Like, he poured him a drink. At some point later on, we're sitting down, the brother Blakely is sitting down. I'm sitting, I'm sitting by the bottles, me and my wife. And he just, he reaches over, he grabs the bottle and he pours himself a drink, puts the bottle back. I go, yo, you know you drinking my liquor, right? Cause I'm like, yo, this shit was not cheap. And I don't know you. Don't know you. I don't know you, my brother, I do not know you. This shit ain't cheap.

[Chris]

And there's no, there's no sense that this is an open bar. It's a corporate sponsored event. There's no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Alex]

What's funny, though, because the typical rule at the club is like, if the dudes, you only touch the bottles that you put some money on, but girls are typically allowed to touch the bottle. But he's gay, so I don't know what rule applies to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wouldn't need, by the way, number one, I didn't know he was gay, by the way. His sexuality has nothing to do with this story. The only reason I'm even bringing his sexuality into it is because I'm going to play his video in a minute and then you're going to understand why I bought it into it, right? So even if it was a girl, I would have been like, yo, you know, you drinking my liquor. Like, it wasn't said that.

[Alex]

But the rule, sexuality, if they at the table, all right, they can touch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no. If you with me, if you part of the team, if it Wheezy, drink up. Of course, Dolly. Drink up. But my homegirl Karen was with me. Dev was with me. Drink up. Like my. This is my family. These my people. I didn't know this man at all. I'm gonna play y' all the video. Listen to this. Listen. This is what he put hold. Let me fast forward to the part. He. He. He did a recap about his time in Cairns. Hold on. Listen. Listen to what he said. Listen. Once back on the corset, I go to club Quarantine. I have repeatedly been told would be the place to meet melanated friends. Upon entry, I am escorted to a section with JB Smooth and Charlemagne, the God. I immediately get barbershop vibes the way I used to describe what my black and queer identities are at odds. Woman immediately ask, are you with Charlemagne? As if the thigh high YSL boots don't imply that I am also talented. And when I pour myself some champagne, Charlamagne says, you know, you drinking my liquor, dog. Look, maybe Charlemagne's particular order was Dom Perignon rose champagne in the south of France. Perhaps he paid. But after 39 years in this body, I can feel when I'm getting 50 shades of homophobia. So I stood up and took my happy ass home. Got to see my friends Weezy and Nina Park. I'd already been out all day. Because, baby, when the energy is funny, I remind myself, I'm not here for this.

[Alex]

I'm here to. To make money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Roll credits. What does homophobia have to do with anything? It's their month. They want to take. They want take no accountability. That is insane to me. That's the only reason I bought up the fact he was gay and I. He accused me of being homophobic because I don't know you, my brother, and because you reach for this overpriced, expensive ass bottle that I'm already mad that I paid for. I don't know you. Now, he mentioned Weezy and Nina in this video. If Weezy would have been like, yo, this is my man Blakely. Blah, blah, blah, this and that. Cool. You and Weezy. A friend of Weezy is a friend of mine. A friend of Nina's is a friend of mine. But I don't know you. I don't. I don't know you from a can of paint.

[Alex]

That was Wheezy's fault. That was Wheezy's fault. Wheezy was supposed to make the introduction. Be like, yo, this is my homie that. Yep, you gotta charge Wheezy a little bit for that bottle.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tell.

[Alex]

I said, told you to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I left. I left. I left a comment, right? And I said, yes, I paid for those bottles. The only funny energy you felt from me was, who is this man just helping himself to these overpriced bottles I purchased? What we should have gotten was a proper introduction because a friend of Wheezy. WTF Is a friend of mine. Blessings to you. And he said to me I was highly confused, like, why they lead me to a table paid for by someone else. Yes, all of that is true. I don't know why that happened. But how do we jump to homophobia? That's crazy to me. How do you jump to. I recognize 50 shades of homophobia.

[Alex]

That's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you recognize the 50 shades of a cheap motherfucker that don't know you. And it's like, why the fuck is. Is this man touching these expensive ass bottles that I paid for? Like, what the fuck is going on in the world? That's funny.

[Alex]

Yo, Charlie, you really don't do the club, man. I see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't. Listen, and I understand. Everybody gotta make content, right? And I'm fully aware that we live in this world where everybody got their own reality show going on and we're all just extras in their reality show. But damn. To go from that, what happened in the club, to making a whole video and turning it into I'm homophobic. What the. I didn't even think. Nothing. I didn't even know he was. I didn't even know he was gay.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, he did have on thigh high YSL boots.

[Alex]

You knew he was gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I didn't. Because thigh high YSL boots can be worn by anybody in 2025. Charlamagne. There's straight men that are wearing charlamagne.

[Alex]

Ain't no straight men wearing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Alex, you got your fingernails painted.

[Alex]

I got the nail art. I got nail art and fingers. It's two different things. My nails are better than yours, Taylor, because it's nail art.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First of all, I got nail art, too. Relax.

[Alex]

No, you got paint. Just a red paint.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It don't. No, I don't. I have design on my nails. All I see is. All I saw was fashion. I didn't think nothing of it. It's his hands weakened. This dude had on thigh high YSL boots. I didn't think nothing of it. Like, if my mind was not thinking anything about his sexuality in any way, shape or form, I actually did not care. All I cared about was the fact that I paid for these overpriced bottles. And this man, I did not know reached his hand in the bucket. And by the way, I could have been like, yo, put that.in he. He grabbed the bottle. I watched him. He poured the drink, put it back. All I said was like, yo, you know, you drinking my liquor.

[Alex]

Did he continue drinking it, or did he put his. The drink down?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, he.

[Alex]

He drank.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I don't even think he responded to me. You know what I mean? That's why I was so confused when I. Because he tagged me in that post, and I'm looking at the post later, and I'm like, 50 shades of homophobia. That's what we going with this.

[Alex]

That's crazy. So he shaded you and tagged you with a photo. That is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He got everybody. Everybody making content. Alex. Like, I'm telling. We are.

[Chris]

I think he's really blaming the club, if you listen to his response. Because he said they led him to your table, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, he said they let. They let him.

[Chris]

I think what he's inferring is, hey, they told me to go sit at this table where there are already bottles poured. So my assumption is I'm part of that, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know if the bottles that came in. I really don't know. But here's the thing, Chris. I don't roll with a lot of dudes, right? So it was more guys in there. Like, JB Smooth had a dude with him, right? I was the only guy. It was me and the security guard. It was my wife, Dolly, Debbie, my homegirl, Bombay Nina, because all of them was with Debbie because we had just had dinner, a birthday dinner for Debbie, and then walked across. So I'm not even with a bunch of. I'm with women. So what is the. He said it felt like the barbershop. Where.

[Chris]

Right.

[Alex]

Yeah. That is weird.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Where?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, man. I just found that very interesting that to weaponize his sexuality. Where. Where. Where his sexuality wasn't even important in the story. You know what I'm saying? Like, I prom and Blakely salute to you. I. I send you nothing but positive energy, love, and light. I'm not trying to shade you in no way, shape, or form, you know, but, you know, you. You got your platform Instagram. I got my platform, which is, you know, brilliantly. It's in the Breakfast Club. So I'm just telling the story for what it was. I just did not know you. And. And it. Come on now. If you. If you in the Club and you buy bottles. Any stranger grab your bottle, you're gonna be like, what's up?

[Alex]

Yeah, but usually when the girls grab it, you don't say nothing because then you just look cheap. Why are you complaining that girls grab your box?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't have no problem looking cheap. I ain't going home with none of y' all. I feel you like, and you're not with me. We. But, you know, we. We did have a good time, man. Salute to. You know who I met last night? I met Lucky Day. I love him. Lucky Day is dope. He's dope. Me and my wife listen to a lot of Lucky. I just never had met him. I don't know. He. I didn't know he. I. I knew him when I saw him, I'm like, oh. And so. So that was dope. And I met. I met Miles from Sinners that played. That played the. The. The guy that. The young boy. Huh? The young boy? Yeah, the one that the Pew Pies was at. Oh, dude. Yeah, I met Miles. Him and. Him and him and Lucky Day. They were both super, super, super duper cool. Both listen to the Breakfast Club. Both want to come on Breakfast Club. So that was dope. You know, it was dope to meet them. What we want to do? Do we want to do asking this. We didn't do no asking idiots last week. Want to do all memes. I have some. All memes matter. Like, you were trending. I was trending. I wasn't even here. You already told the story of this, like, a couple weeks ago, but they just now picked it up. I wasn't even here. What I do. I've been gone all week. You don't got it. Clearly that's not how Instagram works, so you don't need to be here to. By the way, Kans ain't sweet, boy. People was getting robbed in cans. I saw somebody. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They have, like, a whole. It's just funny how, like, things work all over the world. Like, you can go someplace and, you know, think just because you're in this affluent place with all of these rich people, you know, everything going to be sweet. But you got. They got these very. I guess you would call them sophisticated, sophisticated watch snatchers.

[Alex]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what they do is they observe your watch. And, like, what they told the security that was with me homie named Wilson, he said that the thing that they. They. They look for the most is the Richard Milley. Because the Richard Millie got, like, the. The rubber band. Yeah. And they they can. They're easily easy to snatch off. And this one dude snatched somebody's Richard Millie. And boy, he did not get far. Cause somebody tripped him up. And then all the security that was just in the area put the beats on.

[Alex]

Woo.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because what they do is they say the guy will snatch it and then take off running. And then it'll be somebody on a scooter. So he'll pass it off to the guy in the scooter and the guy on the scooter takes off. All right, this is okay. Oh, this is when I was with. On Matan show.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is this? From the Neighborhood Talk. It says, what the hell? Charlamagne appears on Matan, Evan's YouTube channel. The only way that it would look dominant to me is if you was throwing up because you were sucking your own dick. Ok, ok. It's out of context. Clearly the Neighborhood Talk said, well, this was cringe. Do y' all think Charlamagne was wrong for appearing on this? Thoughts? How am I wrong for appearing on something? What did I say? That was so long ago. Let me hear some of that. Taylor.

[Taylor]

Normal levels. Like, the guy's throwing up and then he, like, there's no reaction. He just. He's throwing up at you as a weapon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The only way that it would look dominant to me is if you was throwing up because you were sucking your own dick. Oh, like you were sucking your own dick and you got something about this. Because I'll be impressed. Like, oh, he can suck his own dick. And then you're causing yourself to throw up. That would make. That would scare me. I'd be like, oh, especially if you sucked it and threw up. Like, ah, you up yourself some more. Throw up. That'd be crazy. That'd be wild.

[Taylor]

That's some real disgusting, man. Keep it to yourself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just saying.

[Taylor]

Just saying. What do you mean you're just saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just asked the question.

[Taylor]

You just gave. You just gave like a whole thing about, like a whole visualization of you giving.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm showing you how to make that look more dominant is what I'm saying.

[Taylor]

That's probably the least dominant thing I've ever seen. If somebody. If I saw a homeless guy doing that, I'd stop his head. I would attack him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't go nowhere near a man sucking.

[Taylor]

Actually, you're right. I would think he's way too disgusting, but not dominant, just disgusting. Like that guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you saw a man sucking their own dick in the streets.

[Taylor]

Not if they're I don't even know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Block. Call somebody. You'd be like nine, one, one. There's a man on this block his own dick.

[Taylor]

Why do the bugs always just turn off the block?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, Quentin Tarantino movie. Say that word a lot. I don't even know what the context of that was. I don't even remember what my time asked me for me to even start talking like that. First of all, play some more. What's it. Okay, this says talking about people using the word nigga. Let's hear. You like that.

[Taylor]

I like it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

That's like. I. I don't. I mean, you. Is that okay with you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I like saying crack ass crackers, so it don't bother me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, no, I'm not gonna give you a pound because I don't want you to say the N word. But I do reserve the right to say crack ass.

[Taylor]

But why can you say that? But I can't?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you can say whatever you want.

[Taylor]

Will you get offended if I do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, you just got to deal with the consequences of it.

[Taylor]

Everybody already knows I say it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You do? You don't say it around black people.

[Taylor]

I don't say it on camera or around tough looking black people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not tough, but I'm just saying.

[Taylor]

Whenever you got a tough guy out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Here's the thing about life. You can say whatever you want. You just got to deal with the consequences of whatever it is you say.

[Taylor]

But would you be offended by it? Beside, let's say I had no consequences. My offense is super racist.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I probably. I see. I don't take offense easily, but I would be offended by it. Because you're using it for content.

[Taylor]

No, I'm using it like, to be derogatory.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah. Okay. I can kind of know Quentin Tarantino move. I can kind of respect that because I've never been that word as a term of endearment. Like.

[Taylor]

Oh, really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I use it the way crack ass crackers use. What.

[Taylor]

What about. You usually use the A or the R?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The E. The R. Oh, that's.

[Taylor]

Yeah. No, we can pound it on. No, we're on the same page. That happens within R2. And you said it was vitro. I like it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I. I can kind of respect that because. Okay, I'm here, baby. This one right here, it says Maton asked Charlamagne about him cheating on his wife. Black men don't cheat. Black boys do. Okay, start from the beginning. Let's hear it.

[Taylor]

You say black men don't cheat on their wives. But you used to cheat on yours all the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, stop with you.

[Taylor]

How does that make any sense?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? How dare you bring up something like that? What's your problem?

[Taylor]

Just asking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bringing up old for no reason.

[Taylor]

It's a good question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, I did used to make mistakes.

[Taylor]

But you said black men don't cheat on their wives.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, because.

[Chris]

Because.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And are you black? I'm gonna say something to you that you can't repeat either. Black men don't cheat. Black boys do. Now, I know to you that a lot of black people, all black men are boys.

[Taylor]

I didn't say that you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, but I can tell that you're thinking it. I'm. I'm here, baby. I don't see the problem. What is the. What's the problem here?

[Alex]

I thought you was cooking, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I enjoyed. I enjoyed. What's the problem with this? What? What? What? What? What? First of all, the neighborhood talk. Ain't never even heard of my tongue, number one, right? What does it say this was? Well, this was cringe. That's the whole point.

[Alex]

Yeah, I think I just. My opinion. I don't think our community gets cringe humor yet.

[Chris]

Is that. I mean, not to be old and out of touch, but I'm assuming he's doing a character or something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah. If you've ever watched, like, see, people, forget the Colbert Report back in the day. Remember the Colbert Report when Stephen Colbert was playing, like, this super conservative, but.

[Chris]

He would come into the green room and tell the guest what he was going to do and how it would play out, and then they were in on it. Does this guy tell you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I had no idea what I was walking into.

[Chris]

Got it. Okay.

[Alex]

But he's always in this character, though. Like, always. Every time you see him, he's this character.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, See, see, See, my man. Well, Alex that works with. You might know Alex. Y' all might know Alex. Alex is in the podcast world. Which one?

[Chris]

Alex.

[Alex]

What was the last name?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Alex. I'll tell you Alex's last name right now. He. He works with Donnell a lot. Alex. Alex Audia.

[Alex]

Oh.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah, yeah. He works with us, too.

[Alex]

Yeah, he works with us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay. So, yeah, Alex. Alex was like, yo, you should do my time show. My time wants you to do his show. And I mean, you know, I know Alex and nothing. Like, if Alex tells me that I should do it, I'm like, all right, why not? And, yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know what the this was, bro.

[Alex]

When you told me that, I was like, why the did you do this show?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, I was. I. I enjoyed it, though. I had a fucking ball, you know? And why.

[Chris]

Why are the dudes posted up like it's a hostage video or some shit?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like it's just all part of this shtick. And I said, you know, it's all. I was fucking with them too. There was one part where Ma ton did his hand like this, and I'm like, yo, you look like you jerking your guy off. The whole shit is supposed to be cringe is the point. That's Matan's whole, I think. Am I saying his name right? Matan. Matan. That's his whole shtick. So it's like he's trolling you with cringe worthy shit. So if you're gonna go on the show, the only thing you can do is troll and be cringe back. And if there's one thing I know how to do is troll and be cringe.

[Chris]

Yeah, right.

[Alex]

He was in your bag. Like this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was funny. So I enjoy. I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it. I like, I had a. I had a bus with somebody said. Somebody under the comments said, this is just 2000. As soon as I start reading the comments, Taylor took it down.

[Chris]

So when it's over, does he come up to you and say, yo, man, that was great, or does he just stay in character?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Chris]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, he stays in character. Is that this R and B radar said, this is just 2012, 2017. Charlemagne to God. Nothing to see here.

[Alex]

Yep, facts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I had them all. Somebody said, I don't care what Charlemagne does, y' all can never turn me against him. Sorry, Cyrus. Monique says Charlamagne wife needs to start looking at him sideways. You think she hasn't? Somebody said, bro is sus. Regardless. I miss men building things and fixing cars. This ain't it. Charlamagne, the living breathing goddess. How did we get here? Oh, see? Shout out to Tim delaghetto. Okay, Tim understands. Tim said, lol. The kids whole thing is trolling. The only proper response is to also troll back.

[Alex]

Yep.

[Chris]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Q More Music say. What did Q More Music say? Charlamagne. Laugh out loud. Charlamagne can fit anywhere and still be the same. Damn. Now this is interesting. Cass B. Fatal said, I've actually had the displeasure of seeing a man suck his own dick on Twitter. Taylor, you ain't doing the right research. What? That video. We ain't seen that guy. Why do you want to see that?

[Alex]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He seen that video. I didn't know that shit really existed. I Thought that I hear about it all the time, but that shit sound like some shit that only exists in movie. But Taylor, and by any means necessary. I like baton show, but do you.

[Chris]

Guys feel like there's a shelf life on these cringe shows is because at a certain point, I mean, in some ways you were the best case scenario because you came in blind. But at a certain point, everybody knows what the shtick is, and then there can't be authentic reactions to it. So I just feel like those shows can only go so far.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're absolutely right. I told him that. I told him that on the show. How long have they been on for it? I don't know, but I think our episode is like 45 minutes. And I told him that. I told first I asked him, I said, yo, is this working? Like, is this work? I didn't know anything about the show after the fact. I went and I looked at his numbers, and I'm like, okay, he does very well on YouTube. I don't know what he does in the audio. I don't even know if he comes out on the RSS feed. Maybe he does. But I said to him, I said, yo, is this working for you? And then I told him, yo, you know, this has a shelf life. Cause once people know that this is what it is, walking in, you're probably not going to get guests at all.

[Alex]

But that's the thing. I think most guests, even if they know what it is walking in, they're not able to get to his level of cringe. So he can usually out cringes the person there almost every other time you got to his level, which is impressive. But normally he's able to just like, all right, I'm gonna just take it up a notch. Take it up a notch. So that's when, like, the show gets like, oh, wow, they're going nuts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This shit ain't really cringe. Like, he's. I mean, him and his demographic, bro, I'm 46. I'll be 47 in a few days. June 29th.

[Alex]

Yeah, he's like 21. So all his fans are like, kids. They. They're seeing this shit for the first time. They're like, yo, this is crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got 46 years of cringe and 46 years of trauma, okay? The. The shit I've seen, he couldn't even fathom. You know what I mean? So I. I can get real dark and I, like, document anyway, so. So, like, his shit. The shit is funny to me. Like, I. He. I do like what he does. I think it's probably better suited for a character in like a TV show or something, you know what I mean? Because to Chris's point, I told him the same thing. I think that, you know, stuff like that that does have a shelf life.

[Chris]

Remember like Between Two Ferns was like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Like when it started it was great, but then everybody knew what it was and it just couldn't keep up the momentum between.

[Alex]

There is a balance though, because like, what about Theo Vaughn? He like sort of kind of plays a character, but then he's sort of kind of himself. Like sometimes he'll just say random shit that makes no sense, but it's just funny and people meet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Theo's not a character.

[Chris]

Yeah, I, I didn't take him as a character.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just think Theo's a funny ass dude. And Theo is able to have thought provoking conversations when he wants to. Like, Theo can sit down and interview a comedian like Drew Ski, but didn't turn around and talk to Bernie Sanders.

[Alex]

But that's what I'm saying. He does a combination. That's why I think his show has more longevity. But like some random times he'll just be like, oh, there's a rat possums pussy and you ever ate one of those or something? Like he'll just say the wildest statement that just doesn't make sense. And it just. Somebody says it with straight face and he's just like, ah, yeah, this is some regular shit that goes out in my leg.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, you're right. But listen, it's somebody in West Virginia who's eating rat possum pussy. It might be the most tastiest part of the possum for all we fucking know.

[Alex]

See, you can always take it there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, it's true. I've been to West Virginia, I've eaten bear shoulder. I had squirrel dumplings. You know what I mean? Like I've eaten gator. Like I'm from the south, so I get that like rat possum pussy might be really tasty, Alex.

[Alex]

I'll never know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You wouldn't know. You might have already had it on a stick, grilled up teriyaki the fuck up. You don't know. You have no idea if you've had it or not.

[Alex]

We don't have possums in China, Deb.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have no idea. There's possums in New York, right? Yes you do.

[Alex]

We do. I've never seen a possum. Yes, there is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, wow. Them shit is scary. Possums are some of the scariest Shit, possums. Possums are one of those things. You be like, what. What purpose did God have for you?

[Chris]

Well, I can tell you what the purpose is. They're encouraging people to start trying to kind of keep them in their backyards because there's a big article in the Times two days ago. Because of the last two mild winters, this is the worst summer on record for Lyme disease and ticks. The ticks all throughout New York State and the Northeast are out of control, and they're realizing that possums are really good at attracting ticks and then eating them. So if you can keep possums in your yard, you're lessening your chance of getting Lyme disease.

[Alex]

So, yo, give me the tick. I'm not gonna have a poxum in the backyard.

[Chris]

Trust me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[Chris]

You want multiple possums if they're gonna get rid of the ticks?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, to Chris's point, you. You'd rather. You rather have a possum getting rid of the ticks than have Lyme disease? And Chris knows.

[Alex]

Yeah, but then you can't go outside in your backyard because there's a possum there. No, they, like, hiss and attack you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And.

[Chris]

Yeah, no, I did. I did research on that, too. So the whole thing is they pretend to have rabies to scare people off, but they can't actually get rabies. So the whole hissing is just a defense mechanism. They don't. They don't have rabies, and they don't attack. Oh. So, I mean, they got me, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That shit is scary, bro. You ain't. You ain't. You ain't felt fear until you seen a possum stand up on, like, his hind legs and, like, do that face at you where it's like, ah. And his.

[Alex]

Yeah, no, I seen it one time. I was in, like, the Poconos area or some like that, and, like, it was one going through the trash. And then we got close, and it just started doing all that, and I'm like, what the is this? I'd never ran so fast in my life.

[Chris]

Protect the possums.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That happened to me one morning, bro. I woke up one morning, and I was taking the trash out, and it was still dark, and I opened that trash can, and that jumped out. I don't know if it was a possum or a raccoon, but, boy, that scared the out on me. Foreign. Let's pay some bills. Salute to Squarespace, man. Squarespace is a OG Brilliant idiot sponsor, and we really appreciate you Squarespace. I ain't see y' all at Cannes. Squarespace. Where was y' all at? But I just want to thank y' all again for supporting this week's episode of the Brilliant Idiot. Squarespace is the all in one website platform designed to help you stand out and succeed online. Whether you're just starting out or scaling your business, Squarespace gives you everything you need to claim your domain. You showcase your offerings with a professional website, grow your brand and get paid all in one place. Get discovered fast with integrated Squarespace SEO tools. Every website is optimized to be indexed with meta descriptions and auto generated sitemap and more. So you show up more often on search engines and bring in more of your ideal customers. Squarespace Domains makes it easy to find the best name for your business at one fair, all inclusive price, no hidden fees or add ons required. Every Squarespace domain comes with advanced privacy and security tools included to ensure your domain remains online and protected. Plus, Squarespace provides everything you need to bring more of your dream to life. Whether that means building a website or adding a professional email service, don't wait to claim your name. Invest in your dream domain today. Head to squarespace.com for a free trial and when you're ready to launch, go to use offer code IDIOTS to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. That's offer code idiotsquarespace.com to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. And this week's episode is also brought to you by Chime Man. Thank you to Chime. Chime has been supporting me in all my endeavors, whether it's a breakfast club, Brilliant Idiots. You know my, my talk shows on Comedy Central. Chime has already showed up. So thank you Chime. And I'm going to tell you something. Chime really does help you with your finances. Okay? I don't care if it's overdraft fees, missed payments, or are just wishing you had ways to save more. Chime understands that every dollar counts, okay? That's why when you set up direct deposit through Chime, you get access to fee free features like free overdraft coverage and you get paid up to 10 days early with the direct with direct deposit and more. Learn [e-mail] Idiots. In fact, if Taraji P. Henson's character in. What was that show? What's that show called? Taylor Straw. If she had Chime, she wouldn't be in. She wouldn't have been in the situation she's in. Not even a little bit. Okay? Chime is banking done right. Open a checking account with no monthly fees and no maintenance fees. With qualifying direct deposits, you're eligible for free overdraft up to $200 on debit card purchases and cash withdrawals. To date, Chime has spotted members over $30 billion, not to mention access to over 50,000 fee free ATMs, more than the top three national banks combined. With work on your financial goals through Chime today, open an account in 2 [e-mail] idiots that's chime.com idiots. Chime feels like progress. Chime is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services and debit cards provided by the Bancorp bank and a RSCRIBE bank. NA members. FDIC Spot me eligibility requirements and overdraft limit supply timing depends on submission of payment file fees. Apply at out of network ATMs, bank breaking and number of ATMs, according to U.S. news and World Report 2003. Chime checking account required.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Chris, you said something about Mayor Adams. You know, everybody kept sending me this and it was like, yo, Chris. Chris has been. Chris has been redeemed. Oh, we might owe Chris an apology. Mayor Adams takes action to make city streets safer. Announced a citywide speed limit for E bikes and e scooters. Press the city council for action on stalled legislation to protect delivery workers. Hey, a broke.

[Chris]

A broken clock is right twice a day. You got something right. But even within low getting that right, he also got it wrong. Because the other part of that bill that they're not talking about is he's trying to allow increase for car speed limits while lowering it for, you know, cycles and delivery scooters and what have you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you don't need to increase the speed in New York City.

[Chris]

Slow down. Everybody slow down, including these guys. People are getting killed out there every day. You know my feelings on it. It's a real problem. I, you know, I, I disagree with him on most things, but salute to Mayor Adams for recognizing the, the very serious situation we're facing here in New York City.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I wanted to ask you, Chris? Yes, Alex, too. Has there ever been a situation in New York where the incumbent Mayor didn't even stand a shot for reelection. Like, they not even talk like you.

[Chris]

Mayor ADAM I think he's going to win. I think he's going to win.

[Alex]

Yeah. Charlotte right now, only the primary, the Democratic primary is going on. So that's why Mayor Adams isn't even in the conversation because he's an independent right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, he's running as an independent.

[Alex]

Yeah. So he's not in the conversation because only the primaries for the Democrats are going on. So this is not even the election for the mayor, it's just the election for the primaries.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I haven't seen him polling anywhere for.

[Alex]

Nothing because he's not, he doesn't need to be in the polls yet. Once they choose the person who wins the Democratic primary, then they'll start talking about Adams because then it's going to be the one Democrat, the one independent and the one Republican running against each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you think, so you think Mayor Adams can beat Cuomo?

[Chris]

Here's a scenario.

[Alex]

Cuomo might not win.

[Chris]

Suppose Zoran wins the Democratic primary. I'm supporting Brad Lander. He and Zoran have co endorsed each other. It'll probably, I, you know, I think Zoran has a real shot of beating Cuomo. So now you have Zoran versus, if I'm saying his name correctly, Eric Adams essentially in the main election. I see a scenario where Eric Adams unfortunately could win that I think Zoran wins.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Chris]

Can he get, can he get the Jewish vote in New York City, which is very.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly.

[Alex]

That's the only vote he doesn't get, but he gets everybody else. And right now he's cooking on social media and TikTok. He's going to bring the young people and get more young people to vote more than any other New York election.

[Chris]

What about working class, African American, big electorate in New York City. You don't think they're going to go Adams?

[Alex]

I think it's going to be 50, 50, because Adams is still a cool guy to a lot of people. But then some people are like, ah, he did some fuck shit, so we're not going to vote for him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I had Zorin on Breakfast Club and I mean, you know, it was, it was an interesting conversation. I saw people, somebody, somebody did a whole YouTube video saying how it was one of the best political interviews they've ever heard. But, you know, to me, I'm kind of with Chris. I'm like, can you win New York City without the support of Jewish people?

[Chris]

He'll get some, I think he'll get the young, progressive Jewish vote, but that's not the majority of the Jewish base. You know, I think Eric Adams is going to have no problem, kind of, especially in the climate with Israel. Really, like, leaning into. Yeah, he is a pro Israeli stance. And Zoran, he's Palestinian. Right. Like, that's his background. He is.

[Alex]

I thought he was Indian.

[Chris]

No, I don't think. I don't. Before we play ourselves, let's look this up. He is. I went to Bowdoin College.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, Andrew Cuomo beaten Zoran by 11.

[Chris]

Yeah, he's an Indian. Somebody told me he's Indian. All right, so there's misinformation going on because I've. I've had multiple people tell me he's Palestinian. I think what the actual thing is, is he's probably supported the cause, but already people are. You see, that's. That's kind of what he's up against, unfortunately.

[Alex]

Like, he has said free Palestine, so.

[Chris]

Right. That's crazy that people were telling me he was Palestinian.

[Alex]

Yeah, but he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not.

[Alex]

He's Indian. But he was actually born in Uganda.

[Chris]

Because there's a big. There's a big Indian population or was in Uganda a lot. Got driven out.

[Alex]

Oh, wow.

[Chris]

I didn't know the 70s and 80s, but traditionally there's been a big population there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your boy Brad got arrested by ice.

[Chris]

Yay. He put his money where his mouth is. I kind of wish he'd done it earlier because I think he could have used some of that attention because I think people see him as lacking excitement or charisma, you know, compared to Zoran. But, you know, I. I've seen Brad around Brooklyn for 25 plus years. I think he's like a guy who's really about policy, who really gets stuff done, who works with all sorts of different communities. He has a ton of experience. I think he'd be a fantastic mayor. But, you know, at least they're working together to try to, you know, they're. They're like, I early voted already, and when I went to vote, somebody from Zoran's campaign was out there and, you know, they were like, trying to give me the leaflet. I was like, look, I'm just like, you know, I'm a Brad Lander's guy. I'm going to vote for your guy. Second. And the guy said, that's fine. Just don't vote for Cuomo at all. Like, that's their thing. That's their.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That shit to me, I've been seeing that too. They've been saying, don't Rank Cuomo or Adams? What the fuck does that mean?

[Chris]

Well, you can't rank Adams now in the Democratic primary. But what they're saying is, in the general election, during the rank voting, if, let's say this, like, let's say a certain percentage amount of people put Zoran or whoever the Democratic candidate wins coming out of the primary, even if a lot of people put let's say Adam second or third, all those second or third place votes, if there are enough of them, can catapult him to the winner in a way. I don't fully understand it, but that's kind of how it works. So what they're saying is if the mission is to block Cuomo, what you really have to do is leave him off the ballot entirely just so he doesn't pick up any votes, whether it's second, third, fourth, what have you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, right now it says Andrew Cuomo leads the Democratic primary race for New York City with 38% of likely voters. But the gap with second place Zoran has narrowed from 19 points last month to 11 points now.

[Chris]

Well, look, I mean, Cuomo has tremendous name recognition for decades going in New York City and New York State. And like Zorhan, people don't know him as well, as evidenced by the fact that people have been telling me he's Palestinian and I believed it. But like, I think what he has done, if not only for this election, and, you know, I think he's worked a lot with Chi O City councilman who's Combat Son. Those guys know how to use social media and really connect with a younger voting bloc. And I think no matter what happens in this election, those two in particular, they're just going to be a force because they really know how to connect. I mean, in a way, almost like Trump does. I mean, it's entirely different messages, but they understand the medium in a way that the older politicians just instinctively. They can't do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I definitely think the Internet and the TikTok helps with local elections. I mean, you saw that with Che, which. But, yeah, I don't know if it. I don't. I haven't seen it work on, on bigger elections yet. Except for Trump. Trump is the only person I've seen it, seen it work for.

[Alex]

I mean, it worked for Obama, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. That was like the early stages of the Internet. Like, Twitter wasn't really Twitter Twitter back then. And like, what was that? 07?

[Alex]

I mean, it was Facebook. But he, I say he was the first. If you consider Facebook social media, he was the first social media brother, I think I don't.

[Chris]

Right. But they, they even people like Zurin or Cheat like who know how to use it and understand the language of it, they've never gone to the place Trump goes, which is just tweeting like you're a 17 or 15 year old kid with no holds barred and just saying anything and everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Chris]

They're still have a sense of boundaries. Like we haven't seen a Democratic candidate who's just said fudge it like it's a tweet storm. I don't care what I say, I don't care who I offend, who takes this the wrong way. It's completely unfiltered. They're, they're using much more, you know, accessible filters, but they still have a filter. And look, I think it's good that a lot of these politicians still have some filter. I think the lack of filters, what have us in such a dangerous place right now because there's so much chaos, there's so much uncertainty because everything changes every two seconds. You know, like there's a reason presidents play it close to the vest. There's a reason presidents try to stay on message. There's a reason presidents watch what they say very carefully because their words have real impact. And now we're living in a time where, you know, if the US President says something, everybody's supposed to react. And now the message and is changing every hour, every hour and a half, you can't even keep up with it.

[Alex]

I, I get that, but it's like, isn't that if one person is having so much success with that model, don't we need to. Don't what needs it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's successful reelected? I think we're having two different conversations.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think what works when you're campaigning shouldn't be how you govern.

[Chris]

Okay, I like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So if I'm using social media and I'm saying wild shit to, you know, get you riled up, to get you to come to the polls, all right, that's one thing. But when I'm governing, I don't need me or anybody from my administration doing dumb shit like when Tulsi Gabbard did that video talking about we're on the brink of nuclear war and you know, we could be facing nuclear annihilation and we have these political elites that we gotta stop from basically killing us all. As we stand here today, closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before, political elite and warmongers are carelessly fomenting fear and Tensions between nuclear powers perhaps. Perhaps it's because they are confident that they will have access to nuclear shelters for themselves and for their families. And I'm like, yo, Tulsi, you the political elite, like, what am I supposed to do with this information? And then a couple days later, Israel goes into Iran. If that what you, if that's what you were talking about, you should tell us, or even today. Well, at the time we're recording this, you know, Trump posted. Well, his spokesperson, Kristi Noel was like, in two weeks, we're going to decide within two weeks whether or not we're going to strike Iran. Why does Iran need to know that? You know what I mean? Or how about if you're going to put something out, why can't it be strike a deal? Why does it. Why are you giving Iran a heads up that we might go in on y' all then? The fucking doomsday plane came into fucking DC today. Did you see that? I sent you that article, right, Chris?

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah, that's bad.

[Alex]

I didn't see that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tell people what the doomsday plane is, Chris.

[Chris]

I mean, basically, it's a plane that the US Government has to quickly get leading, you know, politicians, the President, the Secretary of Defense, what have you, out of a crisis situation before the shit hits the fan. So in theory, if the doomsday plane is in the area, that means they think there's going to be a split second emergency situation where they got to get the heads of government out of there quickly as possible. Now, look, you don't know, do they do that in order to bluff the Iranians that they're prepared for doomsday scenario? Do they think that it's going to be a doomsday scenario? I don't know what the truth is. I don't know if they even know. But it's just adding to this sense of kind of, again, chaos and uncertainty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Alex]

And also, Charlotte, to your other point, I do think that they're utilizing social media to add leverage for negotiation. Because it's like, if you're saying if one person tweets, like, oh, yeah, you know, we're considering to bomb them within two weeks, now that country's like, holy shit, we might be bombed in two weeks. Let's try to figure out a peace deal that we can make within two weeks or less.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Strike first.

[Alex]

Yeah, it's going to be either or, and I think they bank on the latter. Or the previous one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We've had these conversations. It's so funny. We used to have these conversations on Brilliant idiots and jest and just talking about, like, AI and social media. We remember before AI, we used to talk about what if somebody put up a fake Twitter page pretending to be a world leader and said some shit like, yo, we about to go bomb such and such country. And by the time that other country figures out this shit is fake, do they do or do they even wait around to try to figure out if it's fake or do they just say, yo, let's bomb first? Now we are like at that stage where nobody knows what's real and what's not real. When Tulsi Gabbard posted that video the other day, I had to first go look and see if the video was real. And I realized it was real because it came from her Twitter page. But what if a video like that goes out that's not real, and it's a Donald Trump saying how they just launched a nuclear attack against Iran or whoever else?

[Alex]

Yeah, we got to hope that the country is going to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think the other country going to wait? They try to get.

[Chris]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, maybe. You think so, Chris?

[Chris]

No, I mean, did you guys see the new mountain head that just came out?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I heard about it, though. With the four tech guys.

[Chris]

Yeah. So, I mean, that's essentially the main plot point or one of the main plot points in the movie. There's a company that's clearly modeled on a Twitter type social media platform that develops the capability to do such realistic deep fakes that nobody can tell the difference between what's real and what's fake. And I think in this scenario, it's like Algeria or a North African country, but essentially one group starts making deep fakes of riots and killings and, you know, chasing down people from certain groups and the other group believes that it's real and they immediately, essentially start a civil war and they can't reel it back in. It's too late. And, you know, the gut. Everyone's freaking out because it's impossible by that point to tell. You know, you could go to her page and check in that scenario and you wouldn't be able to know. And most people won't even go through the diligence that you went through to try to verify the information. The issue is, are we a year away from that? Are we five months away from that? Are we five years? Like it's coming and we don't. We're not set up for it. We're not prepared for that scenario.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My thing is, why is nobody talking Trump down? Because he's the person that can escalate this because one call from America can stop Israel from doing what they're doing.

[Chris]

Why they've got him wrapped around their finger. The reason no one's talking Trump down is because, and you know, I was very vocal about this when he got elected, is he puts people, he surrounds himself with, yes, men people and women, people who are wildly unqualified, who have no experience, who shouldn't be in the positions that they're in, and they're the last people in the world who are going to challenge him or talk him down. And that's who he's surrounded with right now. You think, you know, Kash Patel's going to tell him to chill out. You think Hegsworth or whatever his name is going to tell them? They're just there to say yes and rubber stamp stuff. So he's isolated.

[Alex]

But he did also surround himself by like isolationists.

[Chris]

Right? But that's why, that's why the Republicans are at war right now. Because there's a large wing of MAGA that doesn't want to have anything to do with this and feels that they were lied to and duped because he did essentially run on an isolationist campaign. But if you really start looking at his statements, the thing with Trump is he says something in support of every position. He says anything in any moment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I've always said that's part of his genius because literally you can go search anything and it'll pop up that Donald Trump said it. Right? Somebody could literally be like, Donald Trump said he was anti war and he was going to stop the wars. You pull it up, you'll hear him say that Donald Trump said he was for war and he's going to take Israel out. You can pull him up saying that like any, like he's literally covered all bases because he understands how the Internet works. He really doesn't understand how the Internet works.

[Chris]

So if he's talking to a group of isolationists, he's going to tell them he's an isolationist and then they go away thinking that's his platform. If he's talking to a pro Israeli group, he's going to tell them he's going to go to the map for Israel and they come away thinking that he's going to get involved and support Israel whole handed. So every group thinks he's with them until he isn't and then they feel betrayed, but he's moved on to the next one.

[Alex]

The one thing I don't understand because Trump as, as like unpredictable as he Is he usually, at the very least will, like, go along with what his base is saying. Like, if something's unpopular, then he'll be like, all right, he'll change his tune. And it seems like this is the one thing that everybody's saying. It's unpopular. But he's still like, ah, you know what? I still might.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

World War 3 should be wildly unpopular. The thought of nuclear war should be wildly unpopular. Like, none of us want to die.

[Alex]

No, it is, but that's the thing is, like, why is he even still considering on attacking?

[Chris]

All right, well, who does he really have to answer to at the end of the day is the question. And I don't know the answer to that question, but that's what you always have to consider with him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was telling Chris earlier, it's like, yo, man, you know what we talk about? Oh, the nuclear war. Like, what the. Oh, yeah. These guys act like, you can commit a nuclear war and just win.

[Chris]

You can win. There's. There's like. You know, people will be like, just. Just finish it with Iran. And I'm like, do you understand what that means?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, oh, Chris, I did read something that said they used the term. It was like. It was like, I'm not even joking. It was like, light nuclear weapon.

[Chris]

They'll say light, they'll say tactical. There's no such fucking thing. Once one goes, they all go.

[Alex]

It's a bit like, I mean, Japan.

[Chris]

Then, because we were the only one who had it. What were they going to do? No one else in the world had it. There are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of nukes all around the world right now, all positioned at us, at Russia, at Israel, at Saudi Arabia. I sent Char this PDF for a book today, Nuclear War Scenario. I think Ann Jacobson is the writers. Out in stores now. Just read that. It really shows this. Once one flies, how quickly they all fly. Because to the point that Char said about, you know, a social media deep fake to launch a civil war, I mean, a nuclear war, no country wants to wait and see what happens. If they think the entire survival of the country is at stake, they let them fly, and they don't let one fly. And the other thing you got to remember is the nuclear war. I mean, the nuclear bomb that we dropped on Japan in World War II, those things are fucking slingshots compared to the type of nuclear bombs that are out there now. Yeah, they're so much more powerful, they're so much more deadly. They're going to spread so much more radiation. Even the light Tactical version. It's just on a whole different level than. Than what was happening in World War II. It's. It's like a very, very scary scenario. And the fact that people are even talking, like, there's a. There's a version of this where we can just, like, do it, and then it's like, business is as normal the next day or something, you know, I texted this to Char. One of those things flies. My family's in our car going somewhere, like, within the hour. I am out of here. I'm not sticking around.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Imagine the chaos. Where are you going exactly? Imagine the traffic. Everybody gonna be trying to get down.

[Chris]

South, like, yeah, well, that's what I was thinking. Because I'm in an apartment. I'm like, the biggest issue getting out of metro New York is going to be. The roads are clogged and you're going to run out of gas. It's going to be impossible to get gas. Then I'm like, should I be, like, storing canisters of gas, but you can't put them in an apartment? So I'm like, should I go, like, hide canisters of gas in a park near me so that when this all goes down.

[Alex]

Yes.

[Chris]

I don't have a. I don't have a gun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, chris, let's get scenarios. Israel throws a nuke at Iran, right? What happens next?

[Chris]

Well, in theory, Iran can't respond in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because they don't have no nukes.

[Chris]

Right? They don't have no nukes. But let's say I ran. You know, first there's going to be international outcry. Then what happened? You know, suppose the radiation lands on Russia, which is essentially right next door. Or Iran, with more conventional weapons, attacks every single US base in the world, and then they kill a bunch of U.S. soldiers. And then us goes. At some point, someone's going to think us is on the war path. And since they've already essentially dropped one nuke or been in cahoots with Israel and dropping a nuke, someone's going to take a preemptive strike to protect themselves. Does that take a week? Does that take a day to take a month? I don't fucking know. But I'm not sitting in New York waiting to see how it plays out. I can tell you that right now.

[Alex]

I was it. I don't know if you guys were. Were you in New York today with the thunder and lightning? Yeah, that shit sounded so crazy at one point I was like, oh, I ran. Started it here. Like, I. Well, I considered that for half a second.

[Chris]

I came into my lobby and there was a portable kayak. Someone had ordered a portable kayak that was getting waited. You know, someone's waiting to pick up in the lobby. And in my mind, I'm like, oh, shit. People are getting ready to figure out how to get off the island already. Like, that's what I need. I need a fucking portable kayak in my apartment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, Manhattan's a island.

[Chris]

It's an island. So maybe I got to put my family, my dog, in a portable kayak and, like, you know, get to Staten island and then from there, paddle to Jersey, you know, like, I'm thinking about this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's pray for none of this to happen, man. Let's pay some bills.

[Chris]

Everybody calm down, please.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Chris]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Alex]

I don't be getting it when I'm around her. I don't understand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you. Have you read the book?

[Alex]

No, I just. I'm around her a lot, and so every time I'm just shaking my head, I'm like, all right, I guess that's the time you on right now. But I just don't be understanding a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, bro, she's. She's a really horny person, but it comes from a place. Same thing with Mandy, but it comes from things that. Well, I don't want to tell y' all too much of the book. In the case of Mandy, I think some of it comes from things. In the case of Wheezy. Wheezy, just like this. Who I feel like I've always been, you know, but just the fact that these two people found each other, this is really like some outlier shit. It's like two people grew up in the same area. Orlando, Florida, Knew each other when they was kids. And that's what I love, too. I love learning about their backstories. You know, I knew some of it, but not the way that they went in detail. So this is. This is a great read, man. You know, I know the whole hive is going to show up. They've already shown up. I think they. They've been number one in a couple of categories on. On. On Amazon for a while.

[Alex]

Said they fought each other in high school.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you know that, partner?

[Alex]

Oh, they fought. They had a fight in high school. They ain't with each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like a fist fight?

[Alex]

Yes, fist fight. Like, to this day, they still debate who won. But I think Mandy might have got the best of her during the fight. But. So when they got to New York, they didn't even fuck with one another. But because they had nobody else in New York that they knew, they were just like, all right, we could look the other way and just be cool. Cause we from the same area, Mandy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Weezy can say whatever they want.

[Alex]

It's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Those two are meant to be together. And we watched a lot of good duos come together and find success and then, you know, separate and fall out with each other for various reasons. You know, for whatever reason, Mandy and Wheezy have been able to work. Work through it and continue to work together. And, you know, I think that this book, no holds barred, is really going to take them to another level. Cause I watched them, like, here's the thing, and I love Mandy and Weezy for a lot of different reasons, but Mandy and Weezy really are the essence of what podcasting should be to me. Because podcasting, you know, nowadays it's the radio guy like myself who decides to do a podcast, or the celebrity who decided to do a podcast, or the athlete who decided to do a podcast, podcasting. To me, the beauty of it was people who weren't in media deciding that they wanted to launch platforms. That's why I always thought, you know, Chris did so well with Loudspeaker, the Kid Furies and the Crystals, you know, people like Taxtone, even Combat Jack. Combat Jack was an entertainment attorney.

[Alex]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like so. Right. So for him, those people to be able to rest in peace, Combat Jack, Reggie o' Shea, for those guys and girls that come together and create these platforms, you know, and actually end up becoming real voices by telling their own unique stories. Right? Like, when you talk about those three people, I just named Combat Jackson the entertainment attorney. So the way he sees the entertainment industry in the business was completely different than a lot of people at that time. That's why the conversations, like, with him and Nori were so intriguing back then, because, you know, Nori thought he got jerked because Combat did the deal. Like. But to hear his perspective as an entertainment attorney and the way he used to Approach those conversations was something very different and unique back then. Same thing with Kid Fury and Crystal. Like, you know, Kid Fury, you know, being, you know, a gay man from Florida, Crystal being, you know, I don't, Was a queer woman from Oklahoma. I don't know what the exact title is. But for them to come together and have their conversations rooted in their unique experiences is what made podcasting so intriguing and so great back then. And it's the same thing with Weezy and Mandy, two women who come from corporate backgrounds who decided on their lunch breaks to be talking about sex and then to find out that they actually have history together way, way, way, way, way back in the day, all the way from Orlando, Florida, and, And to see them build what they build, go on tour, have these, you know, fantastic live shows. Best live show in the business, if you ask me. And then they now have a book coming out called no Holds Barred, A dual manifesto, a sexual exploration and power. And even just watching them in cans this week and how they worked the rooms and how they immediately had Eva Longoria fall into her world. Fall into their world. Like, it's like, they're very impressive, man. They are. They are two very special individuals. And I, I just, I mean, I, I, I thank God that, you know, we've been able to, you know, just create the business that we've been able to create, because I really, really, really like seeing Mandy and Weezy thrive. So make sure y' all go out there and get no holes barred this Tuesday, June 24th, if you already pre ordered. Thank you. If you're waiting for the book to come out on Tuesday. Thank you. Because they did do their own audiobook. So I know if you're a fan of the, you know, Decisions Decisions podcast, formerly Horrible Decisions, you probably won't want to hear them talk. But get it, okay? Buy it all. However you want to. Pick it up. Pick it up.

[Chris]

Are they doing signings or events in New York?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. Are they. Hold on, let me go to their pay. They shit. They got so many goddamn signings. Hold on, let me see. They got, like. They're going on tour for their book, but they have a. I know. They're going to be at uncle Bobby's on June 25th.

[Chris]

That's in Philly, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's in Philly. I just went to the website. It says, going fast with the fire emoji. Let me see. When is the New York booth signing? Okay. Yes. June 23rd. They'll be doing a Talk Shop Live virtual June 24th at 7:00pm Eastern, they will be in Brooklyn, New York, at Word. You know what Word is that?

[Chris]

Oh, it looks like it is actually in Greenpoint.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is Word Books Club. It says Brooklyn.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. The address is 126 Franklin Street, Brooklyn, New York. Yeah, it'll be at the Word Bookstore in Brooklyn, New York, at 7pm Eastern on June 24, the date of books comes out. And then they'll be in Uncle Bobby's in Philadelphia on June 25th. Then June 26th, they'll be in D.C. at Solid Solid State Books. June 27th, they'll be in New Haven, Connecticut, at New Haven Pride Center. And then June 29th, they'll be in Atlanta, Georgia, at 44th and 3rd Bookseller. July 2nd at 7pm Pacific Time, they'll be at the Reparations Club in Los Angeles, California. I mean, yo, they working. That's why I'm telling you, man. Weezy and Mandy special, yo. So they'll be doing book talks and signings all next week. June 24th, no holds bar. The dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power available everywhere you buy books. Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. We didn't do no asking idiots last week when my man Cenk was here. Salute to Jake from the Young Turks. Great conversation. Saw a lot of people talking about that conversation.

[Alex]

Yeah, that was a interesting combo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like Jake. You know, it was interesting to me when Cenk told me that he hasn't been welcome on any news networks because I don't know why Fox or CNN or MSNBC wouldn't have them on. Okay, let's do some asking idiots. Jay Carnelius says, what are the top 10 things you have done to become a high achiever? Damn, do I have 10? Let me think. Okay. Keep God first. Stay humble, keep working. That's three. Definitely. You know, the work on yourself as a person, you know, going to therapy, you know, doing that work to get mentally and emotionally sound so I can shatter the glass ceilings that ultimately exist in any space. And what I mean by that is I always tell y' all about, like, in the hip hop media personality space, you know, you look up and you think, sky's the limit, but it's really a glass ceiling. Especially if you don't, you know, grow and evolve. And I've seen so many people in our space grow and evolve way too late. I'm seeing way too many people, you know, having these revelations at 50 years old, you know, 60 years old, that, you know, they should have pivoted a long time ago. And, you know, you know, One conversation that, you know, has been coming up a lot lately is I've been talking about how when I had dinner with Wendy Williams, you know, maybe like a month or two ago, one thing she said to me was she feels like she's in the situation that she's in because of how she used to talk about people, you know, And I think that there's a lot of people in that space, you know, who would probably tell you the same thing if they were actually being honest with themselves. And so, you know, you can't be afraid to grow, you can't be afraid to evolve in this hip hop space. So doing the work on yourself, definitely doing the work on yourself physically as well. But I think the most important thing, and I don't know if I can get to Tim, but the most important thing I think is just being consistent. Like, that is the number one thing to being a high achiever. Being consistent. Like, you know, people think that consistency is complacency sometimes, or they think consistency is boring, or they think that, you know, sometimes when you're doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again that you're stagnant. When the reality is being consistent at something is what ultimately to me, get you that championship. Like the NBA Finals is on right now. You know, it should be no surprise that the Oklahoma City Thunder are up 3 to 2 in this series and we're taping this on Thursday night, so they might close out the night. But my point is, OKC has been consistently good all year long, consistently good in the playoffs, and eventually that consistency ultimately pays off, you know, So I just think you got to be consistent, you know, to get to a certain point, and you got to be consistent to win. So to me, that is, you know, the top thing you have to do to become a high achiever. You just got to be consistently, you know, good at whatever it is you're doing. Okay, Jaycarnelius Abdon CAA says, what you doing for your birthday? And we got the same birthday. No homo. Why now why is that a no? Why? Why? Like, why? We gotta cut this out, man. Like, what does that mean? We got the same birthday? No homo. What does that. That means. What does that even mean? We not blowing out the same candle? Like, like what do you. Like that. That don't even. I don't even understand that logic that you just said, like that. That did not require a no homo. But I'm doing the same thing. Speaking of consistency, I'm doing the same thing. For my birthday that I do every year, being in my favorite place with my favorite people, that's where. That's what I will be doing for my birthday. Okay. Like, God is good. And I thank God that, you know, I'm. I'm. I'm able to see another year and, and do what it is I love to do another year. Keaton Holmes underscore says, oh, this is a good one. This is a good one. Get drafted into World War III or be forced to take evasion in Ukraine. Chris.

[Chris]

Well, obviously forced to take a vacation in Ukraine, because you've got a chance in Ukraine, even if it's a small one. Get drafted in World War Three. There is. There aren't going to be armies in World War 3, right? Like, there aren't going to be soldiers. They're not going to need anybody. It's over. I think there's a famous quote which is like. I think it's attributed to Albert Einstein.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Albert Einstein, Yeah.

[Chris]

He said, I don't know exactly which weapons will be used in World War Three, but I can tell you World War Four is going to be fought with sticks and stones. The point being, it's over once World War we go back to zero. They don't. There are no soldiers, there are no armies. So, yes, I will gladly go to Ukraine if it means ducking World War three, Alex.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get drafted into World War III or go to vacation in Ukraine.

[Alex]

So I'm thinking World War III is all going to be drones and like that. So I don't mind just being with the PlayStation controller in my hand on a drone instead of being in Ukraine and then possibly being bombed by Russia. So I might go World War Three.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo. I thought about that when I was at the airport headed to France because we had to connect in London. And then from London, we flew to Nice, and then we drove from Nice to Cairns and there was a flight to Tel Aviv.

[Chris]

And I'm like, not anymore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. This was. This was the. This was when it was going on. Oh, I thought that's why I didn't understand. I'm like, who would get on a plane to fly to Tel Aviv at a time like this?

[Chris]

If you got family, you might prefer to be with your family.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what my wife said. People want to get back to their family. I'm like, charlotte, come on.

[Taylor]

Come on.

[Alex]

If. If South Carolina was at war and you can't get your family out, you don't want to try to be there to, you know, be with your family, protect your family.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got I got a whole family here in Jersey. I got my wife and my daughter's here in Jersey. Like, what. What am I supposed. What am I. I just feel like you're flying into enemy fire. Like, why would.

[Chris]

Well, I mean, my. My cousin lives in Israel. He's very close to where a lot of stuff is happening. He's posting pictures of him barbecuing and drinking Coronas. I started to text him and say, take that down. Because even if it's good for you, even if you're fine, whether it's Israel or Iran, there are a lot of people who aren't fine. I wouldn't try to try to treat this lightly, but evidently he's not, or he's put on a good show. I don't know what the case is, but he's barbecuing corn on the cob and drinking Coronas in his backyard in Israel. So who knows?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think that's people's way of coping? Like, they know it's some shit going on, and you don't know if today could be your last day, your family's last day. So you just kind of like going out the way you want to go out. Like, you ever seen that movie? Don't look up.

[Chris]

Sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And remember at the end when they was just all having dinner, even though they knew everything was blowing up around them, but they refused to, like, acknowledge it and accept it and. And go out like that, so they just was having dinner, talking. You remember that?

[Chris]

Yeah. I mean, and to your point, his wife is posting stuff where she's asking anybody with extra bomb, you know, shelters in their home to open it up to people in the community. And, you know, they have one and people are welcome at their home and they're safe room. So, like, whatever he's projecting, obviously other people are feeling it a little bit more concretely. So you might be onto something. He's probably trying to put on a more upbeat face than the reality is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy, man. It's 2025. Nobody should be dealing with this shit. And this is decades old issues. I was watching these old videos of Netanyahu talking about Israel was developed. Like, I don't know if y' all saw the Daily show the other day with Jon Stewart, and he was just showing all of the different times Netanyahu has said that Iran is weeks away from a nuclear weapon, days away from nuclear weapon. He was like, and this was 2015. By next spring at most, by next.

[Chris]

Summer, at current enrichment rates, they will have finished the medium enrichment and Move on to the final stage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Iran is months away from having a nuclear bomb, says Netanyahu in 2012. Seriously, why did we have to bomb Iran now?

[Chris]

Iran is so dangerous. Weeks away from having the fissile material for an entire arsenal of nuclear bombs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Holy shit. That's why Iran's only weeks away from having an entire arsenal of nuclear bombs, says Netanyahu in 2015. No, seriously, I'm not being facetious. I really want to know why we had to bomb Iran.

[Chris]

Now we're going to show you Iran's secret nuclear files.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Here's the warhead, here's the bomb, and that's from 2018. It's just like, clearly they don't have the capabilities to be building a nuclear weapon. Do you think this could be an Iraq type situation, Chris, when they were telling us Iraq had weapons of mass destruction just to go in?

[Chris]

I think the difference. It might be, I think the difference, you know, and I don't personally agree with this, but I think the difference is imagine a scenario where, you know, Canada or even a region of Canada does want to destroy you. We would probably be very proactive in trying to get rid of their nuclear arsenal. Right. I think people forget about the proximity for us. This is all around the world. Like Iran really can touch Israel. And if, again, this is not my opinion, but if you believe or accept the Israeli argument, their point is, we're not looking to start anything with anybody. We're not looking to destroy Iran or Saudi Arabia or Syria or any of these Arab countries. We're just looking to exist and they're trying to threaten our existence. And, you know, I can't 100% argue with that. But is I, you know, I think Obama was a pretty sober guy in his analysis of situations. He cut a deal which he felt was going to provide security. So I don't know why that deal got scrapped.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because Donald Trump doesn't want Obama to get credit for nothing.

[Chris]

Well, I would hope that ego is not that prominent in the scenario that it's going to take us to the place where we are now. It's interesting as we're recording, Matt Getz is really going full on anti Israel on Twitter and is saying, like, matt, Gate, Gates, Gates. Sorry, Gates. There's only one country in the Middle east that won't allow inspectors to look at their nuclear situation and it's Israel. Why is Israel allowed to skate any sort of inspections if we really don't want nuclear war in the Middle East? Why? You know, and I'm like, this is why they say politics makes strange bedfellows. Because I can't stand Matt Gates. I think he's despicable. I think he's disgusting. But I'm like, man, maybe he's got a point, right? You know? So it's like, this is a very unique moment in history.

[Alex]

It was the same with Tucker. Like, I'm not the biggest fan of Tucker, but if you saw his discussion that he had with Ted Cruz is.

[Chris]

Like, I was telling Shar. That felt staged to me. That didn't even feel real to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now you got to. You go watch the whole thing. You'll be like, oh, wow.

[Alex]

Nah, Ted Cruz was flustered. I don't think that was staged at all whatsoever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, the problem I have with them shit, though, is, man, it pisses me off to see black people cheering Tucker Carlson on, right? And I'm going to tell you why I can't. Because we don't give each. I'm going to tell you why. Because we don't give each other that type of grace. Like, if there's somebody that's black that we absolutely posit, like, let's say there's somebody black that the Internet doesn't like. Yeah, it don't matter what that person does or what that person says. The black social media will keep their foot on their neck. But when it comes to somebody like Tucker, it's just like watching the white guy dance. Like, the white guy can do a simple, basic ass motherfucking running man. And y' all like, oh, my God. Oh, go, white boy. Go, white boy.

[Chris]

Go right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? White boy could do a simple dunk backwards, right? And people lose their motherfucking mind. Like, it don't take. It really don't take much when a white person does it to get black social media on their side. You know what I mean? All of a sudden, Tucker Carlson is. I saw somebody post about how it's bothering me about Tucker Carlson, because if he could always do this, then why didn't he always do it? And it's when he was on Fox News, or it's just like, man, who gives a fuck? Like, Tucker had a good interview. Y' all ain't got to suck his dick, right? Because he pressed Ted Cruz, like, now all of a sudden, y' all want to act like Tucker Carlson is the Messiah. He's the. He's. He's your guy now. I don't like that shit. Don't like it.

[Chris]

Same, same.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Scroll up, Taylor. Let's see what else we got. Oh, this is a good one. Ivan Popover says, what can we do about bringing folks together again? Fuck blue versus Ray. You just gotta have real conversations, and you can't have conversations wearing either one of those colors. You know what I'm saying? And he's talking about politics, y' all, not Bloods and Crips. But, you know, you just gotta have, you know, people having actual, genuine conversations, and you gotta be willing to call out your side. If you're on the blue, and the blue does some fuck shit, you should be able to call the blue out without, you know, receiving backlash, you know, and if you're. If you're red, same thing. If you're red and red does some fuck shit, you should. You should call it out. Like, you just talked about Matt Gaetz, you know, we talked about, you know, Tucker Carlson. It's just like those are the things that it's going to take for us to start having honesty, I think, in politics, period. I think that's what we need in regards to all of these situations, because people are literally just putting on their jerseys and blindly being loyal to sides that they don't need to be loyal to. You could still be loyal to your side and still call it out. Are you really down with somebody? Are you really a person's friend? Do you really have that person's best interest at heart if you can't call them on their bullshit? So that, to me, that's what it's going to take to bring people together again.

[Alex]

So I agree with you. But at the same time, you'll look at a show like Piers Morgan where you have people from both sides talking, and it's like, even when you have people from both sides talking, they're not talking. They're just trying to get slam dunks and, you know, just win the conversation. So it's like, how can you. How can you achieve what you just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Said, do it in real life? Because whenever it's on any of these platforms, it's going to be performative. You know, there's very few places that you can go and hear people from other sides actually talk and have conversations where they're really trying to figure out some solutions. Like, I say it all the time. Jon Stewart, the weekly show is one of those places. I still think Bill Maher on Friday nights, you know, is one of those places. I think the young turks network. When it's being done in the right way and there's nobody on there that's trying to perform, they do it. They do it the right way. You know, like those. But those are only three that I can name. As far as media is concerned. I think everything else has to come from real life, which is one of the reasons. And this is just a separate side note, you know, there's been a lot of talk about AI because y' all been in cans all week, so everybody's talking about AI, AI, AI. And I kept telling people I think AI is going to force people back to reality. I really do. Because I think that if you're a kid, you know, or just some young person who's never experienced the real world, when you find out that real world exists, you're going to want to see it for real. Like, we all, for the most part, started off jacking off, but you wanted some real pussy eventually, right? You know what I'm saying? Like. Like the jacking off and the looking at the Playboy magazines and the porno that led you to want the real thing.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I. I feel like AI is going to do that as well. AI is going to make people want the real thing of whatever it is they're experiencing. Like. Like if you love a beautiful island and let's. Let's just say Jamaica, you've never been to Jamaica, but now you can get into this virtual reality experience. Experience and, you know, feel it. At some point you're going to actually want to go feel Jamaica when you realize Jamaica is actually a real place.

[Alex]

Yeah, I get your analogy. But I also think one, with the Jamaica thing, a lot of people won't be able to afford it, so they're going to go the AI version of Jamaica and make that so dope, where you're not going to want to actually go there, because I can't really do that. So I have to convince myself that this shit is fire. And then also the other thing is, like, human interaction sometimes is difficult for some people. So they would prefer to live in the AI world because that is controlled setting where they feel comfortable over going into the public and having to deal with possible interactions that aren't comfortable for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I agree that.

[Chris]

Can I. Can I offer a different analogy that I haven't fully formed yet, but I've been thinking about a lot, which is comparing AI to sampling. And what I mean by that is. All right, so when hip hop started, it was incredible because you were taking the best guitar from a James Brown riff or the best horns or synths from a Parliament Funkadelic riff. This music that had become seen as old and corny, and you were totally breathing new life into it. And it felt like completely unique and fresh and energetic and like for the first 15 years or longer of hip hop it was like that was what was driving it. And it was incredible and it had all this energy to it. But after a while they mined all the samples, they mined every guitar loop, they mined every piano chord. Like, and at the same time people stopped creating new music like that. People stopped playing guitar. I mean, obviously there are people here and there who play a guitar or piano, but like not on the level that used to be. So that you wake up 40 years later and the music kind of feels dead because it doesn't have any of that originality in it or it doesn't have any of that humanity in it. And I think AI is just doing that on a faster version where we can make images of this, but like we're already eating everything that we've created alive and consumed it all. And I think people are going to wake up in like three years and just be like, I want the real thing again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Chris]

I want to hear the guitar again, I want to hear a singer's voice again, I want to hear the piano chords again. Because. And it took maybe 30 years or 35 years for that to happen in hip hop. But I just think it's, it's artificial. And like if you only eat artificial food, you, you literally get sick after a while.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Chris]

And that's what's going to happen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And all you. I agree with that wholeheartedly, Chris. And all you need is one person to tell you like, yo, you know that real shit is way better than this, right?

[Chris]

The coolest people in five years are going to be off social media. They're going to be off these platforms. You're not going to know about them, but they're going to create in person movements that eventually then social media will come in and try to take over. But the really hip 15 year olds in 5 years aren't even going to have phones. I'm calling it right now. Like they're going to reject this shit because they're going to realize that I.

[Alex]

Just don't see that happen. Because how would other people find out about it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you mean?

[Chris]

But that's the whole point.

[Alex]

But like if the cool person doesn't have the phone and build something, how would you build?

[Chris]

The same way we used to found out about it. Word of mouth, slowly.

[Alex]

Yeah, but we don't talk to one another anymore and we talk through social media.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, Alex, I'll say that I think FOMO is going to play a part too, because you can be in your virtual reality world. But if I can, it's the same thing. Now, if I show you what this island look like and you see me on this beach and you see me having a good time, you're going to want to get to that real place. Like, motherfuckers love to go to Turks and Caicos and take pictures by that rusty boat. You know, they love to be in the Bahamas playing with the pigs. Like, those are real life experiences.

[Alex]

No, I agree with you, but what Chris just said, if that person doesn't have social media, how can other people find out about the cool thing you're missing out on?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I think he's saying people are.

[Chris]

Going to get off people because to be really cool, you can't be on the same thing as everybody else.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Chris]

Like I tell my kids, I'm like, I'm raising you in New York City to be slightly ahead of the curve, and you're reacting to the same fucking videos as people in Arkansas or Canada or anywhere. And there's something beautiful about that. But there's also no need to live in New York City, right? Like, New York used to be 10 years ahead of everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You meet a kid from New York, if you weren't from New York and be like, yo, this kid's from another fucking planet. They just know about shit that I don't know about. They, you know, and that is over. But the instinct to be cool and different than the pack isn't over. That's just a human instinct. And I think at a certain point, people are going to be like, the only way I can do it is I'm going to. You know, it's just the nature of things. Cutting edge, cool. People reject whatever is popular in mainstream.

[Alex]

Yeah. And I think the way we reject is the new version of social media. So Facebook is corny to be on now, and Instagram is almost corny to be on.

[Chris]

But isn't inevitable end result of that that all the apps are corny no matter what they come up with.

[Alex]

You gotta show off. You gotta. You got to be cooler than the next person. And how can you be cooler unless you show that I'm cooler?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think what's gonna make people cooler is embracing reality because everything's gonna be so fake online that folks are just gonna be like, yo, I can't be on this shit no more, yo.

[Chris]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I think they'll really be. What they're running from is the fake shit. Everything is going to be so fake online that irl like. Because IRL is already the shit right now. Yeah, like right now. I like the reason the screamers and everybody is winning is because they're doing irl, they're doing real life shit. I think that is just going to get more, that's going to get more and more popular. Even when you watch people now and they do these videos like they waking up in the morning showing their routines and all of this and that. That's not virtual reality, that's not AI.

[Alex]

Yeah, but Charlotte, the reason why it's popular is because of all the people that are staring at their phones watching them do that shit. I don't think it's going to encourage the people to put your phone down and do the same thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it will if everything just gets really, really fake. If every time you pick up your phone you don't know what's real on any of these sites no more. I think it's going to cause people to run away.

[Alex]

You guys are more optimistic than me, I don't think. I think the older you get then you'll reach that. But I think for kids and there's new kids being born every day, you're going to always want to have the feeling of fitting in. And you can't fit in if you're not part of the thing. And part of the thing is always going to be social media or some version of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I tell you the illness. Malcolm Gladwell said this week, and I'm paraphrasing, Malcolm Gladwell said, anybody who tries to tell you what AI is going to do to society over the next 10 years is full of shit. Yeah. Because you just don't know. Nobody really knows. If anybody that's trying to tell you what it's going to do over the next 10 years, they're just full of shit. There was one interesting scenario I heard which I completely disagreed with. They said that AI is teaching. Well, Malcolm Glavel actually said this. He said AI is teaching teachers how to teach 9 year olds. Like, like. So if you're a teacher, he was, he was talking about ways that AI could actually work. Right. So if you're a teacher and you're, you know, talking to AI, AI can teach you how to properly teach a nine year old. And I'm probably his words up a little bit. But the thing that I, that my mind automatically went to, well, that's not going to work. Because what about the natural human element that exists with talking to a nine year old? Because that's what essentially he was saying. I'm probably messing up what he was saying, but he was essentially saying that if you're talking to AI about how to teach a nine year old, AI is cutting out, you know, all of the things you would probably have to deal with. Like a nine year old that's not paying attention or, you know, like the.

[Alex]

Unexpectedness of a child.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but that's the whole thing. Like the thing about teaching a nine year old is the unexpected human element because you can't factor in things like the nine year old having a mom who's a crackhead. And that nine year old had to stay up all night because the mom never came home. And that nine year old might have had to feed the six year old, you know, or the three year old. And now when that nine year old comes to school, they're tired and angry and upset and pissed off. Like you can't, you got to factor in all of that stuff. And then if you do factor it in with the AI, then they're going to say, oh, he's being racist, they're being racist. He said the mom was a crackhead. You know, it's just like, it's just so many unknowns with, with, with, with, with AI. And I just don't think AI can ever properly teach you how to deal with the real world. But we don't know.

[Alex]

Yeah, we don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't know. You know, we don't know. Well, let's do a couple more. Taylor, what we got? Oh, this is a good one. Hold on, scroll back. I like this one. Gareth in Haro says, do you think you can reach the same career accomplishment if you started from scratch today? Probably not.

[Chris]

Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah. And the reason I say probably not is because everybody comes up in the era that they're supposed to come up in. And the way I came up in 1998 as an intern, you know, was the way I was supposed to come up. I was supposed to come up building a foundation of just radio. Even though we were at the beginning stages of the Internet, there was no social media. I mean you had like, you know, forums, like forums and you can go in and comment in, but there wasn't social media. So no, I was supposed to come up exactly the way I come came up, you know, radio. Then that involved, that evolves into other things and social media comes around and you know, people start using, we started using social media to post our content and that's what got, you know, TV executives looking at us and Other radio stations looking at us. I was, I. I was doing. I did a mixtape, you know, called Charlamagne, Tha God Concrete Champ with Never so D Records. And it literally was formatted like a radio show that served as an air tech, which ended up getting me a job in Columbia, South Carolina, at the big DM 101.3. Salute to my guy, Mike Love. So, no, I don't know if I don't think I would reach the same career accomplishment if I started from scratch today, because my path. I don't know what my path would have been. I probably wouldn't even have thought about going in the radio in 2025. I might have wanted to start screaming or some shit like that.

[Alex]

So I think my only question to that is, what age are you? Because are you your age right now? Then? Maybe not. But if you were the age when you first started to, like, try to go towards this career, I think with your talent, you would have found a way. Like, you're a prolific communicator, and I think it would have. You just would have saw what was the climate going on right now. And you'll find a way to stand out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. What you're saying is true, depending what age. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I don't know. Once again, I mean, that's a question that makes me think I should have probably just said I don't fucking know when you asked me. Go Rip. But I don't know. Scroll up some more, Taylor. Let's do a couple more. Oh, this is a good one, Jacob. Tolino, Dash. Brian. Would you rather fight? One Andrew, two Alex's or three Charlemagne?

[Alex]

One Andrew.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One Andrew. That's easy. Easy call. Easy call. Easy call. One Andrew, easy call. Easy, easy call. Especially now on his last legs, bro. Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. Gonna be sitting down doing stand up soon. Yeah. Right now, Schultz is going to be sitting down doing stand up soon. Them knees have seen better days.

[Alex]

Right now this guy where before he starts to play paddle, he goes outside of the court and he's doing, you know, like calf cows. Do you know what calf cows are?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, What? A cat.

[Alex]

Like, it's a yoga position where you're.

[Chris]

Like, cat, cow, cat cows. Yeah.

[Alex]

Oh, you're on all fours and you, like, arch your back and then like, flex it up. But he's like, stretching, like hardcore stretching just to play paddle. And paddle's a game created for, like, older people. It's just the funniest thing. Like, we're waiting to play and he's there outside, stretching, doing yoga.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He should. He should really see what his body age is. You know, you can do that. You can. You can see what. It's a thing. I can't remember exactly how, but they could tell you how old your body actually is, because a lot of people's body is actually in their act. Their bodies are older than their actual age just because of the, you know, the lack of working out, the lack of exercise.

[Chris]

So, yeah, Andrew needs information.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Count Basie, 1738 says, how the hell did Charlamagne end up on the Natan podcast? You meant Mahan. Oh, I told y' all earlier. Alex. Not Alex. Media. Another. Alex reached out, said Matan wanted me on. What's his name? Alex. Alex Padea. Yeah, he said Matan wanted me on. Alex Aldea. Yeah, he said. He said Matan then wanted me on. It's been funny, though, because I've been getting a lot of these young streamers and younger podcast folks that want me to come on these shows. And you know what's so crazy? I always ask. I'll either ask Alex or I ask Andrew or I ask, you know, Nyla, just somebody like, yo, you ever heard of such and such blah, blah, blah, before I even, you know, commit to doing some of this stuff.

[Alex]

Yeah, but you asked me after you already did it about that guy, man, I'mma be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what I was thinking, by the way. I enjoyed it, but I just don't know what I was thinking. For some reason, I thought they were like a political podcast. I don't know why. I don't. I don't know why. I just really. I thought. And I thought, they're not from America, right?

[Alex]

No. Or actually, I don't know, because I really don't know where he's from, but he puts on, like, he's not from America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, I enjoyed it, you know, saying I thoroughly had a good time on it. Yeah, it's like I said, it's been a lot of young screamers and everybody who've been asking me to come on these shows.

[Alex]

When you gonna go on Kai?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, me and Kai never talked about stuff like that. I would, like.

[Alex]

I would like to see that. Y' all would. Y' all would have fun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me and Kai never talk about stuff. Like, when me and Kai talk, like, it's just, like, on some, like. Like, love shit. Like, you know, like. Like, it's never. It's never like. It's never about any. Anything like that. I do. I do. I. I did have A conversation with Kai recently about something, though, that I would. I would like for him to. I would like for him to assist me with. And, And. And I. I don't want to say what it is until later, but I. I definitely did, you know, ask his assistants for something recently, and he. He. He. He said. He said he would. It. Yeah, we'll see. But it's. It's something he can help me with. See, I don't have no problem going to the experts in a. In a field, the experts in the industry, like, I don't give a. Like, just because I'm 46 years old. I know nothing about that screaming world. I'm just a fan of it. I observe it and I watch. So if I got questions about it, I'm gonna go to the person who I feel like is the top in the space. And I mean, to me, from what I, you know, it's Kai. I mean, you know, of course you got the. I show speeds and people like that, but, like, as far as, like, the person who's in the streaming world who's, like, blending. Not even blending, he's taking culture, you know, what do you want to call black culture? Hip hop culture, whatever it is, and taking it into that world. And then, like, you know, he's at the award shows and everything else. He's literally taking his platform and bought it to all of these other different worlds seamlessly. Because it makes sense, right? Like, all he, like, he does the IRL shit.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So instead of just him being in his room, he's at these events, interacting with people and still talking to the chat. So I'mma always talk to the top person in the space. Like, you know, anytime I do something, that's what I want to get with. If I'm doing books, I want to talk to the top people in the book world. That's how Black Privilege Publishing has become so successful. Same thing with podcasts. I was with Chris and Loudspeaker them for the last 12, 13 years. You know, just. Just watch. Just watching that game, you know, audio, scripted. Got somebody like Nicole Shelton who understands that world in a real way. That's why, you know, SBH has had so much success. Same thing with the films I'm about to do. Basil, I want it. You know, Basil has made over a billion dollars in the film world with the John Wick franchise and everything else. Yo, it's so crazy, too. I met Eva Longoria last week for the first time.

[Chris]

I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I don't know if y' all know the story but when they did the first John Wick movie, the day before they were supposed to go into production, they were short some money and so phone calls started going around and Eva came in and invested $6 million at the last minute into the John Wick franchise.

[Chris]

That was a good investment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She said that was her best R O I ever.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And so when I'm talking to her last week and I'm, you know, I'm like, yo, I've heard your name so much. And I'm, you know, of course she knows the story, but I'm just telling her, you know, I've heard this story so many times. And she goes, yeah, I just got a such and such check last week from the first John Wick. I'm gonna bleep the number.

[Chris]

Hey, God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She said like, so think about when she first did. When she first invested into John Wick. John Wick. And to still be getting residuals from that first movie of that size. Come on, man. I don't even know why the fuck I told y' all that just now, but that just came to my mind. I was telling the story. Oh. But yes, I always want to talk to the person in the field that's been at the top of the game in their field. So if I got questions about screaming, of course I'm going to Kai. So hopefully Kai can, you know, make that happen. If not that, I still got nothing but respect for Kyle. Man. There's so many things, like even being in Cannes, man, there's so many things that like, you know, people have asked me to do. And the first thing that comes to my mind is certain screamers. Like I got something for Reggie right now. Like literally right, like right now, salute to Lil Reggie. Just cause I think he's a funny ass dude. But then when somebody came to me with something this week in regards to like advertising for a certain brand, I immediately thought about him. So yeah, man, salute to all of those guys. Let me do one more tail again. One more. Scroll up. What's the wildest thing your child has done in public and you can't do shit about it? What's the wildest thing? I really only got one wild child. All of, all of. All of my other kids are pretty, pretty cool. I mean, don't get me wrong, I got a six year old and a three year old, so they still got time to be crazy. But they not, their personalities aren't like that. My second, my second daughter that's about to be 10, she's, she's wild and she had she had a fear of elevators a few years ago? She still got a slight fear of elevators, but it was one of those fears you don't know she got a fear of until you experience it.

[Alex]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And so she was at the airport, and we're walking to get on the elevator, and she just starts yelling and screaming and, like, acting like she's running away, like, no, no, no. And all I could think was, these motherfuckers is gonna think I'm a goddamn human tropica.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all the fuck I think about. And you're trying to explain that to a six year old. You know what I mean? So I don't want to look like I'm agitated and say, get your little ass over here. Right? You know what I mean? Because people will be looking like, what's going on over here? So I'm trying to explain to her, you acting like that gonna have people thinking that we trafficking you. He's like, what's trafficking? I'm like, oh, my God, you know what I mean? Like, like. But you, you don't, by the way, you don't even. You don't even want to say that word at an airport. That should feel like you saying bomb or some shit like that. So what I really wanted to do in that moment was snatch her little ass up and grab her and pull her on the elevator with us, but then that would have looked even crazier. So, yes, that's the wildest thing my child did in public, and I couldn't do shit about it except for try to fucking, you know, talk her down. I think I did eventually get through to her by saying, you're gonna get us all shot.

[Chris]

Great.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For some reason that, that, that, that resonated. That, that resonated with her for some reason. Like when I said to scare her more. What'd you say, Chris?

[Chris]

To scare her more for whatever reason.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That, that got her on the elevator, okay? She didn't want to see all of us get shot and killed. That's all we got for the week, man. What are we doing next week? Is shows back next week?

[Chris]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, we can do a guest host next week. I got somebody. I got somebody that's going to be in town. They asked me today. I didn't want to do it without Andrew, but he's a fellow brilliant idiot. He's from the brilliant idiots community, okay? I tell y' all that. So as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple assholes who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.