Bread and Circuses

Summary

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The Brilliant Idiots Podcast

Episode: Bread and Circuses

Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God & Andrew Schulz (Schulz absent; co-hosts: Chris Morrow, Alex Media, Taylor)
Date: June 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode of The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne Tha God returns for another week of “brilliant idiotness,” joined by Chris Morrow, Alex Media, and Taylor. Andrew Schulz is away filming, but the group covers a wild range of current events, politics, media, and culture — all while delivering their signature blend of humor, skepticism, and candid commentary.

The main theme revolves around political hypocrisy (“bread and circuses”), the performative nature of politics and media, and explosive new reports about social media manipulation, crypto gambling, and the blurring of reality online. Along the way, they debate Obama/Trump dynamics, Democratic Party infighting, the Jay Z vs. Drake internet wars, and the ethics of influencer-driven crypto casinos.

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1. Studio Drama & Catching Up (01:00 – 04:00)

• The hosts joke about their new recording location due to someone stealing cameras from their original studio.
• Taylor is jokingly accused of being high and on peptides, leading to playful sparring.
• Charlamagne shouts out Taylor’s fiancé’s birthday, reflects on cancer zodiac signs, and sets the banter-heavy tone.

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2. Obama Living “Rent-Free” in Trump’s Head (04:43 – 12:21)

Key Segment: Discussion starts at [04:43].

• Charlamagne introduces a recent “All the Smoke” podcast appearance by Barack Obama, where Obama addresses Trump’s obsession with him.
  • Obama: “I obviously have a room in his head rent free…a suite in his head.” [05:21]
  • Obama explains he was too busy as president to obsess over his predecessor.
  • Obama emphasizes the difference between face-to-face confrontations and online bluster.
  • “Whoever you were talking about, was in front of me…he don’t talk like that, because he knows better. That filter of the phone creates a situation... people just say crazy stuff that they would never say.” [05:55-07:27]

Host Analysis:

• Charlamagne questions if Obama keeps the same energy in person, noting that politicians often play nice in real life after trash-talking one another.
• Chris Morrow notes, referencing Maggie Haberman & Jonathan Swan’s new book, that Trump is notoriously two-faced: “‘... crazy Twitter fingers, talks wild on social media, but in your face, a completely different energy.’” [09:30]
• Alex jokingly notes the “Kumbaya” nature of politics at events like President Carter’s funeral.
• The group discusses Michelle Obama as the only one who draws a “definitive line in the sand” by skipping Trump-attended events.

Memorable Quote:
Charlamagne: “All of y'all politicians be full of it. We know that. So don't act like it's something. Don't act tough here.” [11:28]

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3. Democratic Infighting, “Big Tent,” & Israel as a Wedge Issue (13:00 – 21:04)

Key Segment: [13:00 – 21:04]

• The hosts critique how Democrats are harsher to progressives within the party than to ex-GOP figures who switch sides (e.g. Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly).
• Dissect intra-party attacks on left-wing figures like Zohran Mamdani and the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).
  • “Why are y’all going at each other publicly?” [20:03]
• Chris: Progressives “force the entire Democratic Party to... move a little bit away from the center and more in a socialist direction.” [18:15]
• The impact of Israel/Palestine positions on New York elections and broader Democratic strategy brought up, with reference to NYT podcasts and coverage.
  • “The single issue that defined the races was Israel.” [16:36]
• Discussion of “affordability” as a winning progressive message, regardless of region.

Memorable Quotes:

• “Democrats be having way more grace for Republicans who have talked greasy than they do for people in their own party.” – Charlamagne [13:57]
• “At some point somebody gotta be DSA — Dick Suckers Anonymous, bro.” – Charlamagne (tongue-in-cheek, about partisan loyalty) [20:52]

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4. Jay Z, Hairlines, and Social Media Conspiracies (23:31 – 32:00)

Key Segment: [23:31 – 32:00]

• Joke about a viral theory that Jay Z grew out his hair to inspire his daughter Blu’s self-love.
• Chris marvels at Jay Z’s ageless hairline: “His hairline is immaculate ... only 15% of men age 50 to 59 maintain a completely full unreceded hairline.” [25:12]
• Playful, self-deprecating humor around aging, male beauty standards, and hair transplants.
• Digression into product placement and speculation about who gets paid for commentary.

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5. “Roc Nation Mouthpiece,” Target, & Exclusive Album Vinyls (29:38 – 31:14)

Key Segment: [29:38 – 31:14]

• Charlamagne discusses being accused online of shilling for Roc Nation (Jay Z’s company), particularly over debates about Target’s exclusive album deals.
• Points out multiple artists—not just Jay Z—do Target exclusives, but only Jay Z faces backlash.
• Chris lists Taylor Swift, Prince, Lin-Manuel Miranda as having Target exclusives.
• Riffs on internet double standards and “manufactured outrage.”

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6. Media Versatility: From The View to Wall Street Journal (31:17 – 33:28)

Key Segment: [31:17 – 32:52]

• Charlamagne plugs his recent View appearance and a Wall Street Journal profile on his media career.
• Reframes his adaptability: “I am so versatile, baby. I can go from the View to the Wall Street Journal to Chicks Move in a heartbeat.” [32:53]

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7. Explosive Investigations: Crypto Gambling, Social Media Manipulation & Drake (33:28 – 54:50)

Key Segment: [33:28 – 54:50]

A. Lawsuits, Fake Gambling & Bot Farms

• Charlamagne reads and unpacks investigative articles (Inverse Wire, Wall Street Journal) alleging:
  • Fake influencer “wins” for crypto casinos (Stake, Polymarket, etc.)
  • Smoky connections between celebrity endorsements (Drake, Aiden Ross) and synthetic audience hype.
  • Bot-driven farms boosting music streams to manipulate charts and perceptions of popularity.
  • “...the most successful gambling marketing engine of the decade may have been an elaborate piece of theater...” [36:00]
  • Australian “Grand Wizard” George Nguyen accused of running Drakes’/Akademiks’ burner accounts and laundering crypto payments for bot farms.

Quote:
“The whole thing... may have been an elaborate piece of theater... A rigged casino generates fake wins. The fake wins fund fake streams. The fake streams manufacture real fame. The real fame sells the casino. A perfect circle that never once touches reality.” – Inverse Wire, quoted by Charlamagne [41:48]

• Chris and Charlamagne debate whether this pattern is the new blueprint for all online info: “Is this just what everything’s gonna look like in the future? ...an artificial loop?” [43:05]
• Wall Street Journal is cited as reporting “over a thousand” fake wins and influencer videos driving new-user signups. [45:45]

B. Internet Beef: Academiks, Drake, Jay Z

• Charlamagne discusses online beefs:
  • Academiks TV accused Charlamagne of “committing a white collar crime” against Drake, after quoting articles on the podcast.
  • The irony of online personalities fanning the flames with edited headlines and missing context.
  • “Why would you bring attention to it by clipping it and putting that headline? Because if the feds are ... watching ... you’re telling on your own people.” [51:31]
• Ongoing battle over “puppet masters,” narratives, and who is really calling the shots in the “Drake vs. Jay Z” social-media wars.

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8. Billboard, Jay Z & Drake, and Music Industry Narratives (54:50 – 61:26)

Key Segment: [54:50 – 61:26]

• Billboard names Jay Z’s “Roots Picnic Freestyle” the #7 song of the year. The hosts debate whether it’s even a “song.”
• Online speculation about Drake vs. Jay Z’s music legacies and chart competition.
  • “Are Drake and Jay Z even really competitors at this point?” – Chris Morrow [59:42]
  • Alex: Drake “takes subliminal shots at Jay all the time.”
  • Charlamagne: “I don’t think Jay thinking about Drake... I think you’re buying into the Internet narrative.” [60:25]

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9. Bread and Circuses, Epstein, and Distraction Politics (83:00 – 88:34)

Key Segment: [83:00 – 88:34]

• Chris invokes “bread and circuses”: Roman strategy of distracting the public with entertainment and giveaways in tough times.
• Discusses how events like UFC fights or mass media spectacles are used to draw attention away from political scandals (e.g. Epstein files, Iran/Israel news).
  • “Whenever something moves ... here goes the DOJ with a little bit more to Epstein files.” – Charlamagne [80:51]
• Speculates on whether anything could still “shock” or surprise the public, with references to celebrities and politicians possibly named in scandalous documents.

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10. Anti-Semitism, the Israel Debate, and Political Framing (71:24 – 76:29)

Key Segment: [71:24 – 76:29]

• Chris recounts being labeled “anti-Semitic” online, overusing the phrase “tiny hat” (revealed as a slur).
• The group unpacks the dangers of conflating criticism of Israeli policy with anti-Semitism.
• Chris: “You can be Jewish and be critical of Israel’s government — they’re not the same thing.” [74:43]
• Discussion of progressive Jewish politicians navigating both antisemitism and criticism of Netanyahu.
• Critique of national pundits who conflate anti-Israel government positions with anti-Semitism, especially after recent NY elections.

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11. Media Manipulation, Online Behavior, and Free Will (94:45 – 98:34)

Key Segment: [94:45 – 98:34]

• Charlamagne riffs on “free will” and how most people edit their behavior to fit the social media noise around them: “...a lot of people edit their behavior to the comments and to what other people think.” [96:57]
• Reflects on his own contentment and desire to “help other people get in position,” not just accumulate more for himself.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “All of y’all politicians be full of it... Don’t act tough here.” – Charlamagne [11:28]
• “A rigged casino generates fake wins. The fake wins fund fake streams. The fake streams manufacture real fame. The real fame sells the casino.” – Read from Inverse Wire [41:48]
• “This is the new reality... You don’t have the protections that Trump and his people have.” – Charlamagne [57:53]
• “Why would you bring attention to it by clipping it and putting that headline?... you’re telling on your own people.” – Charlamagne [51:31]
• “Are Drake and Jay Z even really competitors at this point?” – Chris Morrow [59:42]
• “You can be Jewish and be critical of Israel’s government — they’re not the same thing.” – Chris Morrow [74:43]
• “Nothing will surprise me because they’ve showed us everything already.” – Charlamagne [88:00]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Obama/Trump/Politics – [04:43 – 12:21]
• Democratic Infighting/Israel – [13:00 – 21:04]
• Jay Z’s Hairline, Product Placement – [23:31 – 32:00]
• Crypto, Social Media, and Fake Influence – [33:28 – 54:50]
• Media Manipulation & Billboard Nonsense – [54:50 – 61:26]
• Bread & Circuses, Distraction Politics – [83:00 – 88:34]
• Anti-Semitism, Israel Critique – [71:24 – 76:29]
• Online Behavior & Free Will – [94:45 – 98:34]

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Episode Tone & Language

• Fast, barbershop-style banter
• Cynical yet playful; self-aware, sometimes irreverent
• Regular code-switching between comic riffs and earnest cultural criticism
• Willingness to name names, challenge received narratives, and mock themselves

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode lays bare the world of performative politics, influencer manipulation, and the new age of “fake everything” online. Charlamagne, Chris, Alex, and Taylor weave together the week’s biggest stories — from Obama and Trump’s performative beef, to Democratic infighting over Israel, to sensational allegations about crypto casinos scamming young fans and manufacturing pop stardom. The group continually circles back to what’s real, what’s a distraction, and whether anyone in power is truly keeping it 100.

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Essential Takeaways

• Politicians rarely “keep the same energy” in real life as they do online or in the press.
• The Democratic Party is splintered over both policy and loyalty tests, often treating outsiders better than their own progressives.
• A new wave of lawsuits alleges major online influencers, including Drake and Aiden Ross, have participated in elaborate crypto gambling scams and artificial audience-building, with serious real-world consequences for gullible fans.
• Internet beefs are both real and manufactured — sometimes by shadowy “puppet masters” for clicks and attention.
• The world is awash in “bread and circuses” — endless spectacle meant to keep the public from seeing who’s really pulling the strings.
• Criticism of Israeli government policy is not inherently anti-Semitic, but the political discourse is rigged to make it seem so.
• In an era where everyone’s personal brand is up for debate online, the true challenge is to live with integrity and resist the constant urge to perform for an audience.

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

[Chris Morrow]

What is that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, it's a World cup holder. Like the soccer tournament. World cup holder for the world. Fits every car, holds every cup. It has a Carvana logo. Carvana made it. They buy and sell cars. So they made a car cup holder.

[Barack Obama]

So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got any good cups lately? I used to. Just couldn't figure out where in the

[Alex Media]

world to put them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Alex Media]

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[Barack Obama]

Not a real product.

[Alex Media]

For parody and fair use purposes only.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Alex Media]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Compatibility and availability varies.

[Taylor]

18 plus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep. Charlamagne tha God, we are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hezekiah Walker is still away filming a movie, but we got all of the usual suspects here. All of the usual idiots. Taylor gang is here. Alex is here. Alex. Media.

[Chris Morrow]

Let's go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris Moreau is here as well. The only brilliant one in the building. Do we have Prix?

[Chris Morrow]

No. PRI's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No Prix. Okay, no Prix. We are taping today at a studio that I didn't even know existed. This is another WTF Media studio. Weezy and Alex getting too much money, man. It don't make sense.

[Alex Media]

We're not getting money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Alex Media]

We pay very well.

[Barack Obama]

Nah, nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I didn't even know that this studio existed, okay? And I've been in this building before, but I taped in another studio over there one time with Earn your leisure. Right?

[Alex Media]

Yeah. Upstairs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Upstairs, yeah. So y' all got two on this floor?

[Alex Media]

Well, this one, that one, and then upstairs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Too much money. They get into it. Does the IRS know about this?

[Alex Media]

Yes, they do, actually.

[Chris Morrow]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Shout out to WTF Media. And we're recording because somebody stole all the cameras out of Brewing Idy's studio.

[Alex Media]

Yes, they did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. How'd they get in?

[Alex Media]

Nah, it was shifty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Huh?

[Alex Media]

It was shifty. We know the person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know, he's shifty. Whoever the fuck did it, whoever the fuck did it is a shifty individual.

[Alex Media]

Nah,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor, they can't hear you. What'd you say?

[Chris Morrow]

You got a mic for her?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What'd you say, Taylor? It's easy to rob his place. Like, okay, never mind. Taylor stood up just to say it's easier to rob his place if he wanted to. That's our place too, Taylor. Yeah, no, we don't need nobody robbing the place. How's everybody, man? How was your week this week? Anything good happen?

[Alex Media]

I just got back from Barcelona.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor, how you want to get Taylor white. Taylor did let Taylor. Come here.

[Chris Morrow]

Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come here, Taylor. She high as I'm not.

[Chris Morrow]

I hope not. She just drove me up here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my gosh. You let that high girl drive you.

[Chris Morrow]

It was a little.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That high muscular girl that's taking Peptides.

[Chris Morrow]

Clearly there was a lot of break action going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She took Peptides just to get back. Just to bounce back, yo. Just to bounce back. Don't do that, don't do that. This is all natural. You just had a baby two days ago. Thanks, I appreciate that. So I'm gonna say it's my man's birthday, so shout out to him P. That's right. Taylor need another cancer to change her life. Cancers don't do nothing but help you and upgrade your life. My mom's a cancer. See? And your mom's a cancer. Shout out to Ms. Gwen. What? No, I love your mom. I love your mom. Shout out to capital P, man. Happy born day to capital P. Where do we start? Let's start with some. All memes matter. Let's start with Obama lives rent free. Oh, no, that's not the headline. The headline should be, oh, yeah, Obama lives rent free in Trump's head. Barack Obama. Former President Barack Obama was on the all the Smoke podcast with my guys, Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson. And I haven't gotten a chance to listen to the whole conversation. I can't wait to sit and listen to the whole conversation. But they talked to him about Donald, about living rent free in Donald Trump's head. And I have some thoughts about this. Oh, shit. I just ain't do it off YouTube. I mean, it should pop up. You don't have the links though? No, I have the links, but this is here, so I have to. Oh, yeah, be careful too. They probably saving your information in here.

[Alex Media]

No, for real, we will log out of your.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't trust none of that. They'll be all in your DMs, making sure you faithful to P. Capital P. Okay, there you go.

[Alex Media]

The leader of this current administration is still very fascinated with you and your family. Constantly bringing you guys up. And you've been out of office nearly 10 years now. How do you continue to keep your cool and take the high road, so to speak? Because we asked Michelle, and Michelle said, we don't have to take the high road no more. We just have to be strategic in our approach.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But she said we don't have to

[Chris Morrow]

take the high road.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you constantly seem to.

[Alex Media]

To meet the negativity and the racism with class, and it makes you stand out so hot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you don't just want to cuss

[Alex Media]

his ass out or sometimes.

[Barack Obama]

I mean, the thing about it is, look, you gotta ask him what it is that.

[Alex Media]

The obsession.

[Barack Obama]

The obsession.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know what it is.

[Barack Obama]

Yeah. I obviously have a room in his head rent free.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You do everything with grace.

[Barack Obama]

A suite in his head. First of all, when I was president, the last thing I had time to do was worry about what somebody said somebody said or what the. My predecessor did. They're gone. I've got work to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You locked in.

[Barack Obama]

It's hard to describe how if you're doing the job right, every day you've got five, 10 things that are real hard. And you have to be constantly focused. The idea that I'd be worrying about came before who? Some. Somebody who came before and me trying to measure, you know, like, what's he done today? Look, constantly worrying about that is a strange thing to me. It shows me somebody who's not focused on the American people and the job they're supposed to do.

[Alex Media]

The leader of this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that's not it, though. I want the whole part. I want the part where he's talking about how he don't never have that same energy in his face. Yeah, I want that part. Let's find that part.

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, he said something like he wouldn't try me or something, but I need to hear it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I need to hear it. I need the listening audience to hear it, man. I need them to hear it. By the way, I'm getting the fuck out of here. After the day. I just want y' all to know that. Okay, after the day.

[Chris Morrow]

This is our problem.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

After the day, okay? I am gone for the next 10 days. Ain't no breakfast club. Ain't no brilliant idiots. All right? Ain't no. It might be some limited social media. I am on vacation.

[Barack Obama]

I believe in face to face. I believe in conversation. So if this. Whoever you were talking about, was in front of me, which has happened a couple times, he don't talk like that because he knows better. I think there is a. Oh, shit. That filter of the phone creates a situation both where people just say kind of crazy stuff that they would never say.

[Alex Media]

With no consequences to your face.

[Barack Obama]

With no consequences. I believe in face to face.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, listen, I got nothing but respect for President Barack Obama. Nothing but respect for Michelle Obama. I don't even know what he means by this.

[Alex Media]

He's saying Trump got Twitter fingers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But when he says that he would never say this to my face. What would the consequences be if Donald Trump does?

[Alex Media]

I mean, he's kind of calling him pussy. He's saying you don't keep the same energy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he's doing the same thing that he's accusing Donald Trump of.

[Alex Media]

But he never talks about Trump.

[Chris Morrow]

I agree.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

President Obama don't keep the same energy with Trump. Here's my point. We watched him play footsie at President Carter's funeral. That's what politicians do. They talk shit about each other, right? But then when they see each other face to face, you don't ever see none of that. The only time you ever remotely see politicians go at it with each other is when they're on a debate stage. Other than that, when they're in settings like this, it's Kumbaya. Like they was literally laughing and giggling and having a good kiki at President Carter's funeral. This is after Donald Trump done said wild shit about President Obama over the years. Wild shit that could have that had his life threatened, had his family's life threatened. You didn't keep that same energy. You know who kept that same energy? The first lady, Michelle. Cuz she was like, fuck it, I ain't going. I'm not going to a former president's funeral cuz I don't fuck with him. Now we don't know if that's really the case, but that's what it seems like. Okay? They didn't even invite Donald Trump to the opening of the Obama center. Cuz Michelle probably said I'm not coming if he's gonna be there drawing a definitive line in the sand. So it's just like I don't even know what Obama maybe because he in front of Matt and Steve and he know that they enforce us. So he trying to talk tough and it's on all the smoke. I didn't understand. What was that? What was that?

[Chris Morrow]

I didn't like that energy. I got to be honest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was it?

[Chris Morrow]

I'm also popping.

[Alex Media]

Can't do nothing wrong, guys.

[Chris Morrow]

I'm reading Regime Change right now. I was talking about that.

[Barack Obama]

What's that?

[Chris Morrow]

Maggie Haverman. I'm looking it up. The other author, Jonathan Swan. So this is about Trump's first year in office and I'm only maybe a quarter of the way in, but it's very much in my mind. So admittedly I'm influenced by what I'm reading right now, but it's about Trump's first year in office for this current term. And they got incredible access by everybody's admission. And one of the things they talk about right at the top is one of Trump's go to moves is crazy Twitter fingers talks wild on social media, but in your face, a completely different energy. So they said when he met with Biden, you know, he had obviously spent the entire lead up to the election trashing Biden. He was incredibly solicitous to Biden in person. Told him, I feel so bad about what's happened with Hunter. We're not going to touch him. You know, obviously he is why things could have happened to Hunter. But like that's his go to move is to be incredibly aggressive on social media and in the media, but then switch it up on person. And it caught Biden off guard. Biden didn't know what to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's why Biden is standing outside the White House telling him, welcome home. This guy that y' all just literally, y' all been telling us, threat to democracy, telling us he's a fascist. Fascist is at the doorstep of America. You're like, welcome home. Like, I don't but.

[Chris Morrow]

And again, this is coming through the reports, so take it with a grain of salt. But they say in Biden's case, the idea of tradition, the idea of a peaceful transfer of power, like the symbolism of it all was incredibly important to him. So he didn't want to shake it up. But then he was stunned when Trump, even after that in person meeting, he was incredibly nice. Then switch it up on him again. So I kind of get what Obama's. I don't really. I'm just like, you know what this guy is. Don't play footsie with him. Don't keep up appearances. Don't act now like you're gonna do something, you know, like it doesn't make

[Charlamagne Tha God]

any sense to me. It's just a person on the outside looking in. I'm like, man, all of y' all politicians be full of it.

[Alex Media]

Because they are though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We know that. So don't act like it's something. Don't act tough here. Cuz I can look at Barack Obama and say, guess what, Mr. President, you do the same thing in his Presence, too. Yikes.

[Alex Media]

The only difference is that he doesn't talk shit about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, he does. He don't talk reckless like Trump. He talks.

[Chris Morrow]

He's very measured.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Elevated. Measured level of letting you know this dude ain't it.

[Alex Media]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean? But once again, there's a difference between having a difference of opinion with a political opponent and telling us that a person is a threat to democracy, which, by the way, we don't even need nobody to tell us anymore. We see what it is now. We see. He don't give a damn about, you know, any of the institutions that America has upheld. He don't give a damn about the Constitution. We know that. So at this point, what's the. Why play nice with him?

[Alex Media]

I feel like they have an understanding where it's like, all right, during campaign time, everything is like, we understand that's there and we'll leave it in the past.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know another reason I don't like it. Cause think about what it does to us as a society. It riles us up.

[Alex Media]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It makes everybody choose sides and like, there's actual violence that happens between people on the left, people on the right because of what they're doing here. But then they're sitting around having a beer together, kikiing at a funeral.

[Alex Media]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So even not with that. Don't talk like that now. I don't like when either. I don't like when none of them talk like that. Any of them. I don't like when Barack Obama, when Donald Trump gets online and act like he gonna. I want Barack Obama locked up. This dude be calling for the arrest of President Obama. That's the other thing I was thinking about, too. When you talk about if Trump says something to you and you say something to Trump, there's gonna be consequences. What are the consequences? Donald Trump could really have you locked up if he wanted to.

[Chris Morrow]

And also, Trump's an incredible athlete. He's like. No, he is. He's been talking about that. He's in great shape. I don't know if physically Obama could handle him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's real. I need y' all to know when Chris is being sarcastic, okay? You don't need none of the right wing outlets, Taylor.

[Chris Morrow]

Type in Donald Trump athlete. You're going to see how many times he said, what an incredible athlete. Six, four, one, eight, five, tops.

[Alex Media]

Man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know another point about that, too, right? Another thing I feel like y' all are talking about is grace.

[Barack Obama]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like Democrats be having way more grace for Republicans who have talked greasy than they do for people in their own party. What do I mean by that? Look how quick they are to embrace the Marjorie Taylor Greenes, the Tucker Carlsons, the Megyn Kellys of the world. I've been on Megyn show. But these people have talked crazy about the Democratic Party. But Democrats can say, but you know, they're on the right side now, and we can find common ground with them because they're speaking out against Trump. But when it comes to people in their own party, like Zoran Mandani, like people. Zoran Mandani is endorsed. You can't find no common ground with actual Democrats.

[Alex Media]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't think that's crazy to me? Just because they're progressive? Just because they. What they call them far left. You know what I mean? The Democratic socialists or whatever they call it. You can't find no common ground with people in your own party, but you can find common ground with people who have literally kicked the back end of Democrats.

[Chris Morrow]

South Carolina legend Jaime Harrison said they shouldn't even call themselves Democrats.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's the craziest thing. Jamie Harrison, James Carville. James Carvel said.

[Chris Morrow]

Is he on that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Find that James Carville clip. James Carville said they're not even Democrats, which sounds crazy to me because now it sounds like y' all in a cult. My thing is, if Democrats are the big tent party, why not embrace everybody under the tent?

[Alex Media]

Why is it? Because that's the thing. I don't understand. I would think, why don't you get behind this popular movement that's going on that got young people, that got everybody energized?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I think I was having this conversation with some political people earlier. Cause, remember, last week I was saying that I feel like the Mondani thing is the Mandani thing is more New York rooted, which is fair, and I still believe that. But I feel like the things that they're talking about can work nationally because all you're talking about is affordability. All you're talking about is putting more money in people's pockets.

[Alex Media]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, that will work anywhere. But my thing is.

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, you're talking about one other thing, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What other thing?

[Chris Morrow]

Israel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, absolutely. 100%. 100%. But to me, that's just the.

[Chris Morrow]

That's become the light. All the gravity is around Israel. Right. Like, there's a big New York Times, the episode of the Daily that came out today. I guess today's Thursday is about what happened in the New York City elections that took place this week and whether the essentially establishment Democrats, who by national standards are very progressive, but all the establishment Democrats who lost this week, the single issue that defined the races was Israel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All over the country?

[Chris Morrow]

No, in New York.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In New York, yeah. I feel like that happens. That helps you in New York, but not all over the country. Because in South Carolina, ain't nobody thinking about that. I don't think that's an issue like that. I could be completely wrong. But them older people in South Carolina, they not thinking about that. They thinking about affordability.

[Alex Media]

I think with young people, young people on both sides throughout the country, that's an issue.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I can see that. What I would say with the Democratic Party is just don't do the infighting publicly. Why do you have to fight these people? Because now you just look like you're not cool. Because to me, these people are just progressives who are talking about affordability, who are talking about bringing down the cost of living for people. And it's working. So why not just get on television and say, hey, what happened in New York is probably a sign of things to come all around the country. People aren't happy with the current administration. They're not happy with the direction of this country. People want to change. Why are you getting on television and attacking other Democrats?

[Chris Morrow]

They're scared.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Of what?

[Chris Morrow]

Well, I mean, this is how I see it. I think dsa, Right. If you look at what the official policies of DSA are, Trump called them communist. They're not really that far off. Right. They want to make a economic level playing field where everyone kind of has the same stake in it. That's never gonna happen in New York. Right. But you need that energy on the far left to push the rest of the party in a more progressive direction, which to me is great. New York's never going to be a totally socialist city where everybody gets the same wages.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

America's never going to be a. America's

[Chris Morrow]

never going to be that. But do we need elements of that? 1,000%. And if these guys go so hard on the far left, it'll force, I hope, the entire Democratic Party to kind of move a little bit away from the center and more in a socialist direction. But why are the James Carvilles, the Harrisons, like, why are these guys freaked out? I think they see it as existential threat to their power. And I think that's very short term thinking. They need. Trump's embracing this shit. He knows. Oh, my God, he knows that Zoran's got the fucking, as the kids would say, aura right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not only is Trump Embracing Zoron. Trump is embracing speaking out against Israel. He's embracing speaking out against Netanyahu. Him and J.D. vance. I'm like, how did Democrats let Trump beat them to that message?

[Alex Media]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I don't know.

[Alex Media]

So do you think it's a donor thing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Listen, you got a whole generation of people who are tired of folks taking corporate PAC money.

[Alex Media]

No, no, I'm talking about for the establishment Democrats. Why they are pushed like publicly calling out the socialists.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yes. Oh, you know why Chris just said it? Because those guys, the Madanis of the world and the people that he's endorsed publicly speak out against AIPAC in the Israeli government. Absolutely. So yeah, they can't. They can. They gotta.

[Chris Morrow]

Which is why Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are in a tight spot right now because they've made their bed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Woo.

[Chris Morrow]

It's not a comfortable bet at the moment.

[Alex Media]

So my thing is, if they're already elected the establishment Democrats, right, can they just stop taking pivot?

[Chris Morrow]

Yeah, that's what politicians do. Yeah, but why the ones who read

[Alex Media]

the room, why aren't they pivoting?

[Chris Morrow]

Well, now we're getting into.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So why do they all have to pivot if it's a big tent, why can't they have these fragment subsidiary groups under this whole party? My whole thing is why are y' all going at each other? Just not if you don't go at each other publicly. They don't have to do what they're doing. They don't have to attack the progressives. They don't have to the so called

[Alex Media]

far left, bring them part of your tent. Then they can use somebody like a Zoran and be like, oh, look, he's Democrat, you support socialists, communists, all that stuff. And now they could use a Zoran. In other places throughout the words like

[Charlamagne Tha God]

socialist, I've been said that just say it's affordability. By the way, the word socialists don't mean to this generation what it means to all of them. Old people, like they're not thinking about that like that. Socialism to me, socialism to them just means affordability.

[Chris Morrow]

Which is why Trump, smartly to his credit, isn't using socialism, he's using communism. He's trying to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Communism is crazy.

[Chris Morrow]

Take it there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Communism is crazy. They just got to switch it. At some point somebody, at some point somebody got to be DSA Dick suckers Anonymous, bro. Like whoever comes out and says they're dick suckers anonymous.

[Alex Media]

I mean, I think the Republicans do that every time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my point.

[Alex Media]

Convention.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That should be their tsa. Lindsey Graham can lead the charge. Okay, that could be their version of ds.

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, it's not anonymous in his case at this point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Alex Media]

Is this just according to the Internet?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can I talk about this according to the Internet? Can I talk about anything? Jay Z?

[Chris Morrow]

I have not gotten my checks yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I would love to get a check. Can I get a check? Shoot. Y' all get paid to talk about things. Why can't I get paid to talk about things?

[Alex Media]

A Roc Nation mouthpiece.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Roc Nation mouthpiece, baby. As if Roc Nation needs a mouthpiece. What is this? Hopeful that the real reason Jay grew out his hair was to show Blu that her hair was like his hair. Let me rewind and tell you some backstory. Our daughter was about 5, and she wasn't feeling very confident about our hair at that time. When she told her father that it inspired Jay to grow out his hair, we really wanted her to love and embrace every inch of her gorgeous curls. It also inspired Blue to be the voice of the award winning book Hair Love by Matthew A. Cherry. As well as songs like Formation Baby Hair and Afros and Brown Skin Girl. And who would have thunk all of this healthy hair could grow beyond that low cut season with the deep waves? What you doing, Blue? I'm detangling his hair. Thank you, baby.

[Taylor]

He's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris got a take on this. You can't have a take on no black person, black hair.

[Alex Media]

It's crazy.

[Chris Morrow]

I have a take as a middle aged man. How's that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got to take as a middle aged man. Middle aged, Jewish, Asian man.

[Chris Morrow]

As a Jewish, Asian, middle aged man. This guy is God's whatever God it is. Most highly favored how at now I'm 55 years old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Chris Morrow]

I believe he's almost exactly one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

56, I think.

[Chris Morrow]

56?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris Morrow]

His hairline is immaculate.

[Alex Media]

Oh, you hating?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Alex Media]

Oh, that's the.

[Chris Morrow]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm not hating. I'm considered to have a good hairline for my age. All right? I'm nowhere near in the same world as this guy. I don't think that's hate. That's appreciation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to tell you.

[Chris Morrow]

How does he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know a lot of older people are great. Like Damian Lemon has a fantastic headline. I mean, hairline.

[Chris Morrow]

Yeah, but he's in his 40s.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, not Damian Bartmani. He's your most favorite. 55.

[Chris Morrow]

56. Where a hairline is deep. I mean, you're not gonna find a lot of guys out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Google would cause his hair loss in hairlines. Taylor. I guarantee a lot of it is stress. A lot of it is probably genetic.

[Alex Media]

Nah, he does have a great hairline.

[Chris Morrow]

Like a 10 out of 10.

[Alex Media]

Yeah, but he's always had that. Maybe he did the transplant when it started getting a little longer.

[Chris Morrow]

I don't think so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna tell you something else.

[Chris Morrow]

Has his hairline always been.

[Alex Media]

It's always been.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's used the same barber forever. Okay, all right, I know his barber. Right? He's used the same barber forever. That, that plays a major part in it.

[Chris Morrow]

It's generally on your mother's side. Was my understanding your mother's father is the indicator of what your hairline's gonna look like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hair loss in men is primarily caused by genetics and a sensitivity to a male hormone called dht, which gradually shrinks hair follicles. Other major culprits include stress. See, not too much of that, nutritional deficiencies, autoimmune disorders, and overly tight hairstyles. He's never had that. Like. I don't. I don't get it.

[Chris Morrow]

All right, type in what percentage of 56. What percentage of mid-50s men. Chris, you head.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't.

[Chris Morrow]

It's not hate.

[Alex Media]

You wish you had his hair.

[Chris Morrow]

It's acknowledgement. I'm acknowledging it. What percentage of 50 something men still have a full hairline?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy. I should say, what percentage of 50 year olds can still do a pull

[Chris Morrow]

up, but men, what percentage?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thinking only 15. Okay, none of that. That just says 15 to 50. Only 15% of men age 50 to 59 maintain a completely full unreceded hairline.

[Chris Morrow]

So 15%'s not crazy. All right, I'll shut up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's in the 15%.

[Chris Morrow]

I thought it was gonna be closer to one or two.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And by the way, you only know if you can still grow your hairline out when you do it. You understand what I'm saying? Meaning if I, like if you try. If I tried to grow mine out right now.

[Chris Morrow]

Now type in what percent of 50 something year old men have a full hairline and no grays.

[Alex Media]

Yo, you, yo you hating, hating.

[Chris Morrow]

Type that in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

DJ have gray.

[Alex Media]

I didn't see grays in it, but

[Charlamagne Tha God]

even if he did, we can die. And what's wrong with that?

[Alex Media]

Yeah, he's using the fat. What's wrong with that fat?

[Chris Morrow]

Joe, I'm out here as God planned it, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're not a rapper. You have no appearances to keep up. Chris. Like, if you had appearances to keep up, you might do it a little differently.

[Chris Morrow]

Okay, fair enough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't see the problem. Like, what are we talking about here?

[Alex Media]

Like, I didn't know you could take out dreads that's been growing for that Long.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, come on. You knew that?

[Alex Media]

No, no, no. I thought, like, when it's that thick or. What's it called? The wicks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a long process.

[Alex Media]

I know the wicks. You could do that.

[Barack Obama]

No, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a very, very, very long process. I mean, I've seen that happen before.

[Alex Media]

I don't know. They put something in it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the secrete. That's.

[Chris Morrow]

For what it's worth, I have heard that people really like that product. I don't want to hate on the product.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Specifically, why people want me to be getting paid from Roc Nation, man.

[Barack Obama]

Huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why is that?

[Alex Media]

Can we get paid for Roc Nation? Tell them sets of checks this way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why? But why would I be getting paid from Roc Nation? I saw this. I saw a post. I'm like, why am I getting paid for rock? Why do I get paid from Roc Nation? Let me see. It says, academics claims that his idol Charlamagne speaks for and defends Roc Nation. You know what was so funny about that post? He was speaking for and defending Drake when he's telling me that I'm speaking for and defending Roc Nation. All I did was give y' all some game last week as to why I thought the outrage for the Target, you know, Target shit was some bullshit. That's it. Like, I didn't. It's a difference between spewing facts of the matter and having an opinion. Like the reason myself or Wayne O or B Dot sound the same. Because a fact is a fact. Like, there are other people in Target who have that same exact exclusive vinyl situation. Why they didn't get no smoke?

[Alex Media]

And why.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why can nobody, but nobody. I just want somebody to answer the question. Like, instead of, you know, jumping out there and being like, oh, my God, they all got the same talking points. Could somebody answer the question? Like, no. Why didn't J. Cole get smoke when his. He had the exclusive vinyl? You know, whatever for? For the fall off? Like, why didn't Kendrick get smoked when he had the exclusive vinyl for gnx? Like, what? What? What? Why? Why not?

[Alex Media]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't want to understand it, man.

[Alex Media]

But the thing that's crazy is, like, you're on a podcast. We talk about what's in the news, and if that's a subject in the news, then we're gonna talk about it. Like, I don't think Roc Nation paid you to cover something that's on the news while you're on the podcast talking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, they didn't.

[Alex Media]

But if they did, hey, me and Chris need to get a little sub while we're here.

[Chris Morrow]

I'm looking up Target's exclusive vinyl right now to see who else?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I told you, Kendrick.

[Chris Morrow]

I don't see. Oh, Kendrick. Gnx. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

J. Cole to fall off.

[Chris Morrow]

Lin Manuel Miranda's in there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody give a fuck. When was this?

[Chris Morrow]

Right now. Right now. You can go there right now. I thought Taylor Swift would be a little bit more of an ally. She's in there. Prince and the Revolution.

[Alex Media]

He don't got to say now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

While we're here, can I be.

[Alex Media]

But why are we snitching on the other people?

[Chris Morrow]

It's not snitching. That's the whole point. This is just Jay's getting business. Everybody else, page one of 50. So 50 pages worth of artists currently have exclusive. Miles Davis, J. Cole.

[Alex Media]

But are we even still boycotting Target?

[Chris Morrow]

Fleetwood Mac.

[Alex Media]

Is this still a boycott on Target?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have no idea.

[Chris Morrow]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But what I would like to do is I want to shout out the View because I was on the View earlier this week, and I took Lauren LaRosa with me because I feel like Lauren LaRosa has a future in daytime television. Like, whatever daytime TVs gonna look like.

[Chris Morrow]

I was gonna say, does daytime TV have a future, though?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Chris Morrow]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Especially if you got a show like the View, right? And the reason I say, because if you got a show like the View, because the View is live, right? And when you scale it down, it might cost a lot to produce now, but that's a show that you can scale down. Put those ladies right here on a panel and, you know, let them go at it. But I brought Lauren LaRosa with me because I feel like, you know, whatever daytime TV is going to look like in the future, Lauren LaRosa is going to be a big part of it. So I did the View this week.

[Chris Morrow]

How important is the audience element to you? Like, is that the same show in a studio without an audience? Because when you talk about the production expense around these sort of shows, I would think that's a big part of it, right? Filming. Filming it not only live, but in front of an audience.

[Alex Media]

I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I. I don't care either way. I think sometimes you can get caught up in the performativeness of commentary, knowing that you have an audience. Like, I can be on a show like that, say something, and everybody'll be like, you know, and it don't bother me. Because of radio and podcasting. I don't say things to get a reaction. I say things because you know, that's what it is that we do. But I did the View this week also, man. The Wall Street Journal did a great article on me called How Charlemagne Tha God Mastered the Modern Media era.

[Chris Morrow]

Oh yeah, I saw that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. So I'm just saying all that to say when you see me talk to the worldwide nigga net, just know I am so versatile, baby. I can go from the View to the Wall Street Journal. The chick smooth in a heartbeat. Ok, I was watching Chicks Move this week and I saw some good shit. That chick smooth. Chick smooth put me onto some shit, man. And I'm going to get back to that Academics TV post in a second. That's why I want to talk about this. Because Chick's move talked about how George Nguyen. How do you pronounce it, Chris?

[Chris Morrow]

I believe it's Nguyen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

George Wynn, AKA grand was. Well, first of all, it was two posts, right? It was two posts that Chig talked about. Where's the first one at? Oh yeah, this first one. It's a picture of George. Make sure to post this on the video. It's a picture of George. Says George, AKA Grand Wizard Chat Nigger, the man behind Academics TV is photographed in Australia dodging process servers. Multiple lawsuits loom along with possible criminal charges tied to a multinational crackdown on crypto fueled gambling and money laundering. Then it was another post. And the post said George Nguyen, AKA Grand Wizard Chat Nigga, the man behind Academics TV is photographed in Australia being served one of multiple lawsuits he's facing along with possible criminal charges tied to a multinational crackdown on crypto fueled gambling and money laundering. Now I saw Chicks Move talk about those two posts. And then I saw two articles that came out this week. One was from who is this website? It's a guy named Dalton Jackson, senior systems and culture writer at Inverse Wire. Okay, and the headline is pay no attention to the grand wizard behind the curtain. And there's a picture of Drake and Aiden Ross. And it says five lawsuits say the bets were rigged, the screams were bought, and even the chat losing his mind was a hire inside the machine that manufactures Drake. Now Drake. Drake, according to this article on Inverse, it says, according to a stack of class action lawsuits filed across five states this spring, almost none of what you just watched was real. And it's talking about these bets that happen on what websites?

[Chris Morrow]

I think State Cash was one of the ones. Polymarket. If it's the same article I read, basically what it was insinuating or claiming, maybe not even insinuating is they have celebrities influencers oh, it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Think. Yes.

[Chris Morrow]

Yeah, go on. Go live. Right? And you, you watch them making bets in real time.

[Alex Media]

Yeah.

[Chris Morrow]

And then it looks like obviously they're hitting and they're like, I think the term.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can read the article. I can read. I can read that part.

[Chris Morrow]

I'll read it. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It says picture the scene because you've already seen it a hundred times. Drake gold dripping, leaning into Aiden Ross's words webcam. A six figure number on a slot screen. The real spin they land. The number doubles, then doubles again and the chat detonates into a wall of fire. Emojis. And he's different. A millionaire wins a million more live while a few hundred thousand kids watch and quietly do the math. If that's easy for him, maybe it's that easy for me. Now here's the part that should make your stomach drop. According to a stack of class action lawsuits filed across five states this spring, almost none of what you just watched was real. Not the bet, not the win, not even the chat losing its mind. The whole thing. The single most successful gambling marketing engine of the decade may have been an elaborate piece of theater put on by a betting company whose signature trick is that it doesn't actually bet. It says start. Oh. It says the screen you're sold on is stake us. And stake us is not a casino in the way you think. It's a sweepstakes platform, a legal costume that lets a gambling company operate. In states where real money online gambling is flatly illegal. The mechanism is a shell game of two fake currencies. There are gold coins, which you can buy in bundles, but which are worth nothing and can never be cashed out just for fun. And there's state cash, which are technically only ever given for free, a single state cash on a daily login bonus and which can be redeemed for real money at a dollar a piece. The legal magic word is no purchase necessary. You don't buy the gambling, you buy the worthless coins and the valuable coins come free in air quotes on the side. Wink.

[Chris Morrow]

So this is my question with this whole situation is, okay, let's say you want to bet with a casino on an NBA game, right? In theory, Vegas has set a line for that game and all these other sporting events based on what a panel of experts or observers have. We think the Knicks are going to win by three. And there's not a lot of variability, right? Like maybe I don't really bet, but like between different casino sites. Maybe a little fluctuation, but it's pretty solid based on what everyone's opinion is. So the example they're using in this article is when is. What was Drake's album called? Iceman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Iceman.

[Chris Morrow]

When's Iceman going to come out? Right. Who's determining what the actual odds are? Right. There's not a panel. If you're betting an NBA game, you're like, well, historically this team has performed this well in this setting and this person's injured and this person's playing and when they're on the road, I don't know what the term is. There's no sort of information to quantify a bet like that against.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, and I want you to hold that thought, Chris. Right. They have a part in this article which says how the trap is baited for kids. Specifically it says this is the part worth being angry about because it isn't subtle. The audience for these screams skew young and male. Aiden Ross's core demographic is teenagers and early 20 somethings. And the machinery is tuned to that audience's exact psychology. It runs on parasocial trust. A kid doesn't believe a banner ad, but he believes Drake and he believes the screamer. He's watched for a thousand hours and runs on live scream immediacy. It's happening right now on camera. You can't fake that. Which is precisely the instinct the staging exploits. It runs on giveaways, the streamer flinging free state cash into the chat to get a first taste in the door.

[Alex Media]

And.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it runs through that sweepstake loophole that lets the whole thing skate past the age gates and state bans. A real sports book would slam into twitch banned gambling content from unlicensed sites back in 2022 and said the quiet part out loud. In its reasoning, the influence on younger viewers stake has since been formally accused of targeting young users through exactly these influences. So the funnel is a rigged win performed by a trusted face, paid for by the House, broadcast on a channel the House owns aimed at the demographic least equipped to spot the difference between a man gambling and a man acting like he's gambling. The kid copies the only part he's allowed to see with the only money in the equation that's actually real. His. Now can I bring you back around to George? Because they mentioned George in this article and now it's all starting to make sense. See, this is what I don't understand about you, George. You, George. When I gave academics some information that you had got cornered by investigators and you were telling investigators you get your marching orders from AK and Drake. I ain't Know nothing about none of this shit. My intel was completely off. They told me that it was him taking money from politicians or some shit like that. When you sent that message to whoever you sent that message to, and you said, could you please not post my picture, you know, because Charlemagne's mentioned in crypto and I don't want to get my house raided, I wondered why crypto had you so goddamn spooked. And now it makes all the sense in the world. It says right here and the winnings paid for the applause. Here's where the loop closes on itself and gets genuinely strange. The lawsuits alleged those rigged casino winnings weren't only for show. They were a laundering rail. Money allegedly moved through Stake's encrypted tipping feature, described in the complaints as a wholly encrypted and substantially unregulated tool, perfect for pushing untraceable crypto to people you'd rather not be caught paying. And who got paid? Bot operators. The suits claim the proceeds financed screaming farms that pumped out millions of fake plays of Drake's catalog, bending Spotify's algorithm, faking a culture wide consensus, manufacturing the very stardom that made the casino deal valuable in the first place. A rigged casino generates fake wins. The fake wins fund fake screams. The fake screams manufacture real fame. The real fame sells the casino. A perfect circle that never once touches reality. Which brings us finally to the man behind the curtain who you genuinely cannot make this up. Goes by Grand Wizard George Nguyen, an Australian named as a defendant, allegedly runs the Academics TV account and operates in chat under that handle. The filings cast him as the operational hinge, the guy who converts the state crypto to cash. Ok, Lies ons with the bot vendors and coordinates narratives. The paid clips, the manufactured praise, the slander of rival artists, the synthetic chat hype that makes the stage moment feel organic. And per the leak chat logs the complaints lean on. The wizard wasn't freelancing. He was allegedly taking his marching orders straight from Drake and DJ Akademiks. The hype man for the hype was himself a hire. George Wynne, named in the lawsuits as the operator. Strip away the crypto rails and the bot farms and what you're left with is almost petty. Two grown famous men allegedly running a burner offensta. The Academics TV account and the grand wizard handle function protopiling and the leaked logs as a deniable sock puppet. A back room where the biggest artists alive and one of rap media's loudest voices could manufacture their own applause, seed their own talking points and quietly Knife. Rival artists, without ever putting their names on the knife. Sit with that image for a second. Drake allegedly paying a guy in Australia to run his hate account. That isn't a power move. It's a confession about how thin the real thing must feel from the inside. That the most successful artist of his generation would rather rent a crown, rent a crowd than risk finding out he doesn't have one. Now, Drake definitely has a crowd. You're not gonna. Let's not get crazy.

[Chris Morrow]

Yeah, I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He definitely has a crowd.

[Chris Morrow]

He wouldn't have to resort to that. I don't know if he did or

[Charlamagne Tha God]

he didn't, but he definitely has an audience.

[Chris Morrow]

Is this just what everything's gonna look like in the future? That all the information we get is gonna be basically an artificial loop?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe. You know, that article is Inverse Wire by Dalton Jackson, senior systems and culture writer. Don't get mad at Charlamagne, okay? That article is out there and it actually is this. But that's not it, guys. That is not fucking it, okay? Come on. No, that is not it. There was an article that came out this week also in the Wall street on Charlotte Journal. Nobody's on my bad side, I promise you. Nobody's on my bad side. I'm just proving the point. And the point is, I told y' all motherfuckers a couple of weeks ago, I literally told him. I told that a couple of weeks ago this shit was coming down the pipe. I didn't know it was all of this shit, though. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know nothing about none of this shit. I just. Once.

[Alex Media]

Some of this worries me because a lot of these streamers, they gamble at the same time while they're on stream. Well, so, like, I'm wondering. Yeah, like, they're always like, you know, they'll roll the roulette or they're playing 21 or something like that while they're streaming the whole time. So it's like, I'm wondering, are these real sites that they're.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have no idea.

[Alex Media]

Gambling on? Can you get in trouble for that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Of courting? Yeah. This. This is some crime.

[Alex Media]

What's the crime you got?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just the money laundering and all of that.

[Alex Media]

No, no, no. I'm talking about, like, if you are pretending that you're gambling, but on just like a dummy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I'm sure at some. I'm sure. I mean, I'm not the legal scholar here. I'm just reading the articles, man. The Wall Street Journal has, you know, first of all this article is by Katherine Long, Caitlin Ostroff, Neil Mehta, and Brenna T. Smith, right? This is in the Wall Street Journal. And this is why y' all don't be knowing nothing and y' all be thinking people be sounding crazy because y' all don't read. I literally saw a motherfucker say, if you put it in an article, Charlemagne will believe it. No, if you put it in an article, Charlemagne will read it and he'll take in information. The reason y' all don't know shit is because y' all don't read. Read a little bit this article. The headline is this is on Wall Street Journal. They looked like they were getting rich on polymarket, but none of it was real.

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The prediction market has flooded social media with deceptive videos by paid creators, according to a Wall Street Journal investigation.

[Chris Morrow]

Bro, what?

[Taylor]

This guy looks like he just won $6,000. Except he didn't. This is not a real bet. Neither is this one or this one. The people who made those videos were paid by polymarket to promote fake bets and fake wins to make it seem like anyone can make money on their website. We analyzed over a thousand videos like these and found that the bets shown in all of them were faked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bro, there's no way this is real, right?

[Taylor]

Now, take this video, for example. This guy looks like he's spending $200 betting that Trump is going to say the words April Fools during the first week of April. Now, this market is supposed to close in April, but the data in the chart goes all the way through May. And then they show a video of Trump saying April Fool. Yes, that video's actually from March of last year. Anyone who made this bet in real life lost money. Take a look at this one. If you zoom in on the URL, you'll notice that the site isn't polymarket, but poiymarket.com influencers who have worked with Polymarket told us that the company gave them a password to access the website so that they can create real looking trades. They're supposed to film their videos and send them to Polymarket for review. And if a video isn't engaging enough, or if it's obviously faked, they have to refilm it. But the mockups still aren't perfect. Sometimes you'll see a generic polymarket.com source credit on the fake website that's not on the real one. Or it'll miss little things like a green arrow that shows the change in a percentage for a market on a real polymarket browser. The Tab is always the name of the market, but here it's just Polymarket.

[Alex Media]

How does this even make sense?

[Taylor]

All these fake wins are part of a campaign that's gotten over 140 million views. That's thanks in part to an army of content producers that Polymarket pays to repost the videos all over social media. After we started reaching out to these creators, many of them deleted all of their posts from their accounts or started disclosing that they work for polymarket. When we reached out to Polymarket, a spokesperson told us that the company is committed to maintaining accurate and transparent parent markets and that they're conducting an audit of their promotional content. But these videos are still out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait, what now, mind you, that stuff that I just. Basically what I read in the Inverse article is in the Wall Street Journal article, but this is what I found interesting. It says. They have a section where it says insider influencers. Poly Market and Virality. And Virality is the Clipper site, right?

[Alex Media]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Targeted dozens of videos by aiden Ross, a 25 year old manosphere phenom with millions of followers for promotion. Ross has a multi million dollar deal with Polymarket, according to a person familiar with the negotiations. And he averages a half hour per week on his live stream, scrolling through Polymarket and commenting on potential trades. And at least five of the videos, Ross identified ways he could use inside information to trade on the platform. In one video targeted for promotion, Ross said he could easily use inside information to trade on the release date of a forthcoming album from the hip hop artist Drake, who was Ross's acquaintance.

[Chris Morrow]

Right. That's what I read.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Representatives for Ross and Drake declined to comment. Smart men. Very smart men, people. George, you can learn a lot from Drake and Aiden Ross. It is okay to shut the fuck up. All right. Internal materials show that Polymarket and Virality promote videos showing how easy it is to conduct insider trades on the platform. Polymarket has paid Clippers to promote at least 19 videos discussing opportunities to use inside information or other tactics to manipulate markets. Polymarket said it prohibits trading based on stolen information. Illegal tips are information obtained in breach of a duty of trust, confidentiality or other legal obligation. It added that Polymarket's market integrity framework includes trade monitoring, onchain transparency, reporting channels, and escalation processes to detect, review and respond to suspicious activity where appropriate. We engage with regulators and law enforcement to support the integrity of our markets. Why did I read all of that? I read all of that. Because you're petty. No, it came to my attention on Shebang. Okay. You know, Shebang everybody's hot, wiping themselves off. Okay, maybe they're sweating because the heat is on, right? I don't know. But in Shebang, Drake says, shorty keep asking to date she trying to finesse poly market for bread. Now I want you to think about everything I just read Wall Street Journal, everything. And then connect the dots to that verse. And this is not an indictment of Drake in any way, shape or form. I'm just wanting Drake and academics to know the people they surround themselves with are idiots. Because Academics TV heard me also say what I just said on Breakfast Club and play the edited version of what he said. This all this is what I said on Breakfast Club. I. I referenced the Wall Street Journal article and the Wall Street Journal Journal article. Let me go back to the headline. It says they looked like they were getting rich on parley market, but none of it was real, right? And then I talked about the poly market and virality thing where they targeted dozens of videos. And I said representatives for Ross and Drake declined to comment. And then I quoted the verse from shebang Shorty keep asking the date she trying to finesse polymarket for bread. Look how they edited this on Academics tv. Oh, let me read you the headline. Charlamagne accuses Drake of of committing a white collar crime. Do you not understand how much you're telling on people? You're telling on your own people, even if it's not the truth, even if the story is not real. And these are just all crazy, wild accusations and allegations because that's all they are at the moment. Why would you bring attention to it by clipping it and putting that headline? Because if the feds are actually watching or some type of law enforcement is actually watching, trust me when I tell you they're actually watching. Why would you. Who's connected to these people? Academics tv? George Wynn. Why would you post this headline? Charlamagne accuses Drake of committing a white collar crime. And look at the caption. Bruh's new fear mongering talking points dropped. And they want you to think Jay Z did nothing wrong partnering with Target. But Drake is now committing federal crimes, shouting out polymarket.

[Chris Morrow]

Who's bros?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me.

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, like bros.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Playing Taylor. Playing. Playing Taylor. The market ran a deceptive marketing campaign that paid creators to bet on Drake's album release date. And in that song he said, shorty, keep asking the date. Keep trying to finesse poly market for bread. First white collar crime confessor. You know what you cut out? You cut out the fact that I was quoting an article from the Wall Street Journal. You did that on purpose because you don't want to direct nobody to that article in the Wall Street Journal. Which is why it is okay, George, to shut the fuck up. Because if you don't post this on academics tv, then I don't come on Brian Idiot's podcast and read all of that shit and direct people where they should go get this information.

[Chris Morrow]

Well, don't shut all the way over.

[Alex Media]

Chill, Grand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're getting a lot of content.

[Alex Media]

Grand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chill, man. We getting a lot of content out of this.

[Chris Morrow]

And I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing your

[Charlamagne Tha God]

last name, but I don't have no issue with none of these people. I just keep wondering why the fuck my name keep coming up.

[Alex Media]

I don't know. I wonder the same thing. Why do they keep doing this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why do they keep bringing my name still, Grant. Jay Z. Billboard says Jay Z got the number seven song of the year, and I don't even agree with that, but. Cause it's not a song. It's not a song. If they were talking about just music moments, yes, that's one of the top music moments of the year. But I can't put that as the number seven song of the year and the highest charting rap song. Not the charting, but Billboard said it's the biggest. I guess they're saying it's the biggest rap song of 2026 so far. It's not a song. Like I can name a few other songs that I think should be ahead of Jay Z Roots Picnic Freestyle, even though I enjoy Jay Z Roots Picnic Freestyle. But he Billboard says that. And somehow or another it becomes. Hold on, can I read the headline? Why y' all get mad when I want to have some fun? How come when I want to have a little fun and I want to talk and respond to things, I can't do it? Why is that?

[Alex Media]

There got to be peace online, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is peace online. Who said it's not? Who's not having peace online? I'm about to leave for 10 days and I'm not going to give a fuck about what y' all talking about. Academics says it hurt my heart watching my hip hop media idol Charlamagne spit Rock Nation talking points. I'm speechless. I was proud of Joe Budden, though. At least he not on script. Even though he def love him some hov. The rest of y' all shills, I don't care. Y' all voices ain't loud enough. Roc Nation finna pull a political alignment this year. They got all their Puppets working hard. They calling any criticism smear campaigns. Do not be fooled. These people are evil act. I'm telling you this. This don't have nothing to do with smear campaigns. This has to do with crypto and these betting markets. And that's the actual issue that everybody should be worried about. Y'. All. Y' all focused on the wrong things. If y' all think that this is people coming at, you know, these pages because of criticism. And by the way, there's a thin line between criticism and defamation, too, so you also gotta always walk that line as well. So I don't know what all of these lawsuits y' all got are about, but I know five of them, according to the Wall Street Journal and inversewire.com got to do with crypto. So that's all I'm saying.

[Alex Media]

Pray for everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, I ain't praying for nobody, okay? I wake up in the morning to pray for my people. By the way, I don't have. And I really want y' all to understand this. I don't have no issue with none of these folks. I'm just simply saying if y' all gonna put out narratives, at least put out the right narratives. Because to me, it looked like y' all must be trying to get folks jammed up. When I hear stories that y' all were talking to investigators and y' all were telling investigators that y' all were getting y' all marching orders from AK and Drake, and then I start seeing the Wall Street Journal and Inverse Wire and you getting served, and they're saying that you're part of some multinational crypto ring. It all starts to add up to me.

[Chris Morrow]

Well, I mean, if the Wall Street Journal is reporting on it, that means it's only the tip of the iceberg, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that's the other thing, too. Could I say one more thing? By all means, let me say one more thing.

[Alex Media]

The thing I don't understand is, like, you were just trying to look out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's unbelievable. And all of a sudden, I'm the person behind this. Meanwhile, Wall Street Journal said they did an investigation. Axe said that TD not TDE. Axe said that Kendrick's manager said they had PIs on him. Right. You were in a deposition with Roc Nation. What else did he say? Somebody else I'm missing. Oh, this is the one I'm getting at. Oh, Wall Street. Yeah, I just said Wall Street Journal did an investigation. Oh, the Age media outlet in Australia said they did an investigation. But then I saw Meek. Meek? What did Meek say? Let me find Meek's Tweet. Meek's so funny. Hold on. Where's Meek's tweet, man?

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, I know what you're talking about. I saw that tweet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm talking about?

[Chris Morrow]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on.

[Chris Morrow]

It was kind of like, who is this guy I keep hearing about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or something to that effect. Yes. Where is it, man? Somebody. Hell, are you the producer? Don't nobody ever want me to have fun. I'm saying, why can't I ever have fun? Everybody's like, oh, no, Charlotte, man, you shouldn't think. Why can't I have a little fun? Why can I not go from the View Journal to the Worldwide nigga. Net?

[Chris Morrow]

It's fun, but it also speaks to a much bigger issue that we're all facing, which is insider trading and then manipulation of the stock market. And that's the shit that has me worried.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why are you doing that shit?

[Chris Morrow]

I don't know. I play by the book. Let me be very clear.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

With Asian or something. You ran with it.

[Chris Morrow]

Now, I swear by no. But I'm panicking because I'm watching. What I feel like is a lot of these stocks and a lot of these companies being artificially inflated in terms of their value.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Morrow]

Due to insider trading and manipulation of the stock market. And then you factor in all the crypto, which has been completely unregulated. Like, sure, this is culturally interesting to us, but it's like, also a very small little piece of this larger thing that we're all kind of ensnared in right now.

[Alex Media]

But then is it even anything wrong with what they're doing?

[Chris Morrow]

And in their defense, if I'm one of these kids who's doing this on polymarket or one of these sites, and I see Trump and his Treasury Department doing a version of it, why would I think there's anything wrong with what I'm doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is the new reality. You don't have the protections that Trump and his people have.

[Chris Morrow]

Well, and then that's what you find out when you get in a little too deep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That, you know, Meek said, who is grand Wizard? I've been hearing about you for a minute. I've used Claude and real investigators to ask why my screams declined 89%, not normal in 2024. It pointed me to academics. Campaign screams are back normal, by the way. Academics. We need answers. Tap in. Remember, I said we gonna follow everything because it's all documented on the Net. This is all I'm saying, man. This is all I'm saying.

[Alex Media]

That's funny, though. I Asked Claude while my streams are down. It's funny, hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I'm adding Meek and Cl to the line of investigators. Okay, Meek and Claude are on the list of how y' all get to me. How am I behind any of this? But this is what I will say

[Taylor]

act.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's have the conversation. Because I don't want to see any of y' all talking about, you know, people are getting paid to support and defend folks. Cause the reality is you have an OVO chain. So you're supporting and defending Drake because you feel like Drake should be higher on this Billboard top 50 songs thing. And by the way, I might can agree with that. Like, I don't think Jay Z's Root Picnic Freestyle should have been on there. Cause it's not a song. But you jumped out the window defending that. I don't want to hear about none of that. I want to hear about this. Talk to me about your boy grand wizard being mentioned and all of this crypto shit. Talk to me about that. I ain't even pointing at Drake with this shit. Because, like, Drake could just be a person who, you know, is caught up in a situation that he don't even know nothing about. Sometimes you can get caught up in these, you know, deals with companies and not really truly know what's going on. I don't know. I'm just shooting bail. I have no idea.

[Chris Morrow]

Well, can I ask a question? Like, are Drake and Jay Z even really competitors at this point? Because that's how it's being framed in me. It's some definite Roc Nation Drake. And I'm like, admittedly, I'm not tapped in on any of this shit. But, like, I feel like Jay Z's, if not retired, like, he won.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's over, Chris. Jay Z's been home, right? So he's already home and been home

[Chris Morrow]

for a long time. What is he fighting for? Fighting over. Like, that would. That's what doesn't add up to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that there's this.

[Chris Morrow]

Or paying people to go out and,

[Alex Media]

like, I still think these celebrities, they have big egos. They. They don't like each other. They've not liked each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe that.

[Alex Media]

They've not liked each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe that. I think that you're buying into the Internet narrative.

[Alex Media]

But Drake takes subliminal shots at Jay all the time. Who.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say it again.

[Alex Media]

Drake takes subliminal shots at.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. But I don't think Jay thinking about Drake. But he's a Z.

[Alex Media]

But he referenced him in the freestyle

[Charlamagne Tha God]

just now because Drake took a million shots at him on Iceman.

[Alex Media]

So that's what I'm saying. So clearly if I had a head

[Chris Morrow]

of hair like that, I wouldn't give a sh. If I was 56 years old with the head of hair like say whatever you want.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the other thing too. I see people saying, I wonder if Drake's going to reply to Jay Z's. Drake has already said what he said. Drake replied to. I mean Jay Z replied to Drake and why shouldn't he? He's outside. It's the 30 year anniversary of Reasonable Doubt, his first album. The album that laid the foundation for everything. I promise you, in 20, however many years when so far gone is 30 years old, Drake is going to celebrate that too. It's going to happen. He might celebrate it even sooner. When is the 10 year anniversary of so far gone? 2000. It's probably already happened, right?

[Chris Morrow]

2004, maybe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

20 year anniversary of so Far Gone. Drake should celebrate. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you celebrate your first mainstream project?

[Chris Morrow]

2009. So it would be 29.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So 2029 will be 20 years. You don't think Drake's gonna celebrate that?

[Alex Media]

I think it could be something as simple as Drake just wanted this to be his year and just him alone. And I think probably just a little ego that they're like, yo, that Jay's stepping on my rollout.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He wanted to 30 year anniversary, yo.

[Alex Media]

I know it don't make sense, but

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just saying, you know how the 25th.

[Alex Media]

But you know how they are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're recording this on June 25th. The album came out June 25th, 1996. When I leave here, I'm going to the pop up shop and I better get a fucking discount. In fact, I better not pay for nothing since I'm on the goddamn. Do I get an employee discount on? Yeah, I should, right? Huh? Yeah, you can come. I don't know nothing about no discount. I don't know. I know what I'm going to get.

[Alex Media]

Wait, Taylor's come out with a cup.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm going. I'm going to that as soon as I leave here. Yeah, that shit is what's up. Matter of fact, it's closed at 8 o'. Clock. I'm going to that right there. OK, but I'll say this, no act for real. Let's have the conversation after. After I see you.

[Alex Media]

Do you actually mean that though? Because. Oh well, not with George. Would you have a convo with George

[Charlamagne Tha God]

with ACT No, I don't know. I don't know. Why do I need to have a conversation with George? I can have a conversation with act. Cause y', all, I don't want to talk to the puppet. No, no matter. I need to know who the puppet master is. Which one is the puppet of the puppet master? What came first? The academics? TV or the academics?

[Alex Media]

Whoa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just asking questions. I need to know. I want to know.

[Alex Media]

So you and AK need to have a conversation?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. I mean, we did. We had a fucking two and a half conversation. I thought we were very clear. And we talked after that.

[Alex Media]

Apparently. It don't seem like shit is clear.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, you know, it don't seem like shit is clear. Listen, man.

[Alex Media]

And we don't need this. This is messy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't need what? What is messy?

[Alex Media]

This is messy, Alex.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

None of this is messy. I gave AK a heads up on some stuff and now this stuff is coming to a head. And I think it's gonna get worse.

[Alex Media]

You know what I'm saying? It looks like it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's gonna get worse.

[Alex Media]

And I tried to give him a heads up too, and he knows I did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And, and George, why the fuck were you wearing a Lakers hoodie? You should have had on a Toronto Raptors hoodie. What type of team member are you? What type of team fucking player are you when you wearing the Opps favorite basketball team? This shit is insane. Yo, this shit is insane. But no putting the button on it by saying. And me and I can have the conversation publicly if you want to. Cause I want to know. I got. I got questions.

[Chris Morrow]

Happen right here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got questions. I want to know about this stuff. I ain't seen none of y' all talking about this yet. Stop deflecting from this stuff. I want to know about these headlines that the Wall Street Journal act and Inverse, you and Charlotte and everybody else is talking about, please.

[Alex Media]

Because this is. Come on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, come on, man, listen, I have no. I have none whatsoever. Then there was another one. I saw some other. This is some other paperwork. I don't know what the fuck this is, but once again, I just want to know. I want to know about. I'm going to read these two headlines again and then we can pay some bills and move on. But inversewire.com says pay no attention to the grand wizard behind the curtain. Five lawsuits say the bets were rigged, the screams were bought, and even the chat losing its mind was a hire inside the machine that manufactures Drake grand wizard is mentioned in that George Wynn act. I want to hear you talk about that. And the Wall Street Journal article is. They looked like they were getting rich on polymarket, but none of it was real. The prediction market has flooded social media with deceptive videos paid by paid creators, according to a Wall Street Journal investigation. Drake and Aiden Ross declined to comment for that article, as they should. And Shorty keep asking the date. She trying to finesse Poly Market for bread. That ain't got nothing to do with Roc Nation. That ain't got nothing to do with Kendrick.

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, I just got the line. Now she's asking the date, meaning the release.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Chris, come on. You trying to beat the Asian rumors. You knew you caught that? You added that up already. All right, I want to hear you talk about that. Talk about that stuff. Don't talk about me.

[Alex Media]

That Yankee shit is fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That Yankee is fire. I heard it's 400. Don't talk about me. Don't talk about Roc Nation. Address y'.

[Barack Obama]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shit. Don't try to deflect and say Roc Nation is paying people to do xyz. This ain't got nothing to do with nobody. This is investigations that people have been doing on you and your team. We should have hit George.

[Alex Media]

We could have had ACT come right before you leave.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, nah, nah. I need this Worldwide.

[Alex Media]

I need.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The nigga had to sit with this for 10 days.

[Alex Media]

Okay.

[Barack Obama]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

While I'm minding my business on an island somewhere. Okay? And then when I come back, I'll catch up on everything that the Worldwide nigga Nets been talking about. Let's pay some bills, Taylor gang. What is that? Oh, yeah, it's a World Cup Holder. Like the soccer tournament. World cup holder for the world. Fits every car, holds every cup. It has a Carvana logo. Carvana made it. They buy and sell cars. So they made a car cup holder.

[Barack Obama]

So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got any good cups lately?

[Taylor]

Used to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just couldn't figure out where in the

[Chris Morrow]

world to put them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The World Cup Holder, brought to you by Carvana. Proud sponsors of the World cup holder

[Alex Media]

sign up today to win [e-mail]. Not authorized or endorsed by FIFA.

[Barack Obama]

Not a real product.

[Alex Media]

For parody and various purposes only.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, let's get back to the show. Church announcements. I don't got nothing, okay? I'm going on vacation. All right, now, listen. You can pre order Lil John's book. It'll be out in October through Black Privilege Publishing. You can go pre order that, Jess.

[Taylor]

Hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Till death do We Parent. You can go pre order that right now as well. Arsenio. Hall's book is out. You can go. Oh, no, I'm lying. Yeah, Jess, book is out. You can go order that. Arsenio Hall's book is out. You can go bookstores and buy that. 2 Chain's book is out. You can go out in bookstores and buy that. Other than that, I'm on vacation, man. Don't bother me for the next 10 days, okay? No, my birthday is Monday. But I don't care. I mean, I care, you know, thank God. But I don't care who knows. It's my one day. I don't care if the listeners know. I'm not gonna be. I'm not gonna be attached to nothing. I am disconnecting to. Well, yes, by about noon tomorrow, I'm completely disconnected. Okay. And there's no podcast. There's no. It's no brainer, this podcast. There's no breakfast club. There's no social media. I'm just disconnected, completely gone. Okay, that's nice. Must be nice, you know, y' all argue amongst yourselves on the Worldwide nigga.

[Barack Obama]

Okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got any church announcements, Alex?

[Alex Media]

A few. If you wanna record at the best podcast studios in New York and in LA. WTFMediaStudios.com I also have a live call in show. It's called AM Mornings. I do that every Sunday. You have to call in, show your face. We talk about all different types of topics. And then last, I got a tennis event coming up July 25th. It's called all loveracketclub.com that's where you can get your tickets if you're a beginner, intermediate, advanced. We got courts and coaches that can teach you everything. It's a really fun event. There's music, giveaways, all that stuff. So just head over to theall loveracketclub.com all right, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor, play that audio I sent you, that 50 Cent post.

[Chris Morrow]

You also never played the View clip, by the way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't play the View clip.

[Chris Morrow]

Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was the View clip?

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, you said when you went on with Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I mean, we got clips. You wanna play a clip, Taylor? We could play a clip from the View. Why not?

[Alex Media]

Oh, but why do you think daytime television is going to last if I

[Charlamagne Tha God]

didn't say daytime television? I said that shows like the View. I mean, you already see that. You know, like Kelly Clarkson went away, Sherri shepherd went away. Tamron hall is still on. The reason I think the View is gonna last, Cause it's live. I think live is the only thing that's gonna survive the future. Of any of these mediums. That's why I think what Netflix is doing with Breakfast Club is dope. Cause we're on live every day, you know, 6:00am to 9:00am like, you know, they can tune in and watch us. And not only are they watching us on the air, they're watching us behind the scenes, just kicking it in the studio.

[Alex Media]

So I just feel like that was just the original podcast. That's just the podcast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What, the View?

[Alex Media]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but that's what I mean. Like, right now, the View lives on, like, four different platforms.

[Alex Media]

Yeah, but I'm saying if you take away the live element, I think it's the same show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you keep it live. I would keep it live. You just scale. All you do is scale down the production. Right. And you still keep it live.

[Chris Morrow]

Well, that's why I asked about the audience.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe a smaller audience. I mean, it's just going. I hate to say that, because I love. I love these crews that make up these shows. You can't do these shows without these amazing crews. But there is gonna come a point where these companies and these networks gonna have to scale down. And you can keep a show like the View on simply because it's a live show. Like, and the View comes on ABC linear. It comes on Hulu Disney, and it goes out on YouTube. And you got the social media clips. Like, they're living like a. They're living like a breathing live show should live. So I think that's why I think the View will be around. And I mean, like I said, I think people like Lauren LaRosa in the future, man. Lauren is whatever daytime TV looks like in the future. Lauren LaRosa is gonna be a part of it. What's this clip, Taylor?

[Alex Media]

Lauren's great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I got the clip now for the ball spot, but play it

[Alex Media]

and

[Charlamagne Tha God]

play the ball spot one. Let's see. Dude, play.

[Chris Morrow]

Oh, no. I sent the View clip that I had.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What clip did you have?

[Chris Morrow]

The one where the guy called you anti Semitic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, shit. Yeah, play that one. Oh, my God. That was crazy. Why did he just be throwing. What's up with y'?

[Alex Media]

All?

[Chris Morrow]

There's something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why do people.

[Taylor]

First of all, let me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me talk to all the people

[Chris Morrow]

in the comments saying very anti semitic shit about me. I don't know if you caught that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, I don't be reading the comments.

[Chris Morrow]

I read them. Tiny hat. What the fuck is that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Alex Media]

Oh, that's not even.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's OG Anti Semitism. Never heard it.

[Alex Media]

No, that was not a slur. That's like.

[Chris Morrow]

Never heard it. And then I went to the doctors today. I'm talking to the doctor the entire time, and he bends over to. He was looking at some shit in my mouth. He bent over and he had on a little hat. And I was like, oh, shit. Tiny hat.

[Barack Obama]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's old now.

[Chris Morrow]

You guys have infested me with this bullshit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, this guy here.

[Alex Media]

But that was not bad. That's love.

[Chris Morrow]

Tiny hat.

[Alex Media]

Yeah.

[Chris Morrow]

It doesn't feel like love.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's like, what's this guy's name?

[Alex Media]

I'm telling you, the little tidy hats that they wear.

[Chris Morrow]

Yamaka.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yamako. What does that say? Chris Nicholas.

[Alex Media]

What he thinks is bad, it's not a bad guy.

[Chris Morrow]

Fonda Caro. It does not feel like love to me.

[Alex Media]

I checked with my other Jew friends.

[Chris Morrow]

Why wouldn't you say nice hat?

[Alex Media]

Because it's tiny. It is tiny.

[Chris Morrow]

I'm gonna have to call my. No, you were gaslighting me right now.

[Alex Media]

No, I really.

[Chris Morrow]

You were trying to.

[Alex Media]

I'm telling you this.

[Chris Morrow]

Taylor, type in tiny hat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought it was a slur.

[Chris Morrow]

It's tiny hat.

[Alex Media]

No, it's not. It's not tiny hat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I heard it was a tiny hat.

[Chris Morrow]

There's no way you're gonna twist this.

[Alex Media]

I was at a Jewish wedding two weekends ago.

[Chris Morrow]

No one was like, yo, can you put on.

[Alex Media]

I had a tiny hat on, and they said you could say it. They said it.

[Barack Obama]

I swear.

[Chris Morrow]

No.

[Alex Media]

All right. Maybe they gave me the tiny hat pass.

[Chris Morrow]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's a slur. Yes.

[Chris Morrow]

Tiny hat is frequently used as an anti Semitic dog.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is a teachable moment.

[Chris Morrow]

Teachable moment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not editing this.

[Chris Morrow]

I'm glad we addressed this.

[Alex Media]

No, you're the anti Semite overhead.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not.

[Alex Media]

I don't want that.

[Chris Morrow]

No, the listeners.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me tell y' all something. Y' all ain't gonna ever make me hate my Jewish folk.

[Chris Morrow]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. All right. But this is.

[Chris Morrow]

Go to glossary of anti Semitic terms.

[Alex Media]

Man, my people told me wrong. Sorry.

[Chris Morrow]

I just want to see which one of these I actually.

[Alex Media]

I thought it was all love.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that we got. People got to stop throwing the word anti Semitic around so loosely, though. Like, just because you criticize BB Netanyahu and the Israeli government doesn't mean that you're anti Semitic. Like, people got to stop saying that. That's what this guy said. That's why he called me anti Semitic. Right.

[Chris Morrow]

But what you saw in New York this week with the Elections is an actual example of that. Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris Morrow]

Where you had. I believe it's the 10th congressional district, Goldman versus my guy Brad Landers. Who won? Brad won. Yeah. Both Jewish. I've gone to synagogue with Brad Landers. I've gone to his synagogue.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're a big Brad guy. You've been a Brad guy.

[Chris Morrow]

I've been a Brad guy since day one. I really like the guy. Just having met him, seen him around the community. He's very Jewish, but he's also very much against what's happening right now in Israel, and he's not afraid to articulate that. And just the way that I said earlier. I think it's good for

[Barack Obama]

listeners.

[Chris Morrow]

You can't see this, but I was just assaulted. Like 10 very anti Semitic images on the screen right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is this stupid handout. Anti Semitic words.

[Chris Morrow]

What the was that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was crazy. That made my skin crawl just now. What the was that? God damn.

[Chris Morrow]

That was triggering.

[Alex Media]

I'm sorry you had to deal with that, Chris, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But what you say, my brother, I'm

[Chris Morrow]

just saying, like, my. You know, personally, I've always been critical or tried to be critical of Israel as a Jew, as a tiny hat, really. Government, Government policy. Because I believe if there's just blanket support, then people and governments and policies tend to drift towards radical positions. And there has to be a balance. There has to be people criticizing, even within Israeli context, the left and the right, so you can achieve the balance in the middle. And I think it is fair to say, like, if you look at what happened in New York with Brad Landers, he's very Jewish. I can personally attest to that. He cares deeply about Jews. He's not in any way anti Semitic, but he's very critical of the Israeli government. And I think he had a quote where he basically said, I'm very much against the genocide in Palestine or Gaza, but I'm also very much against anti Semitism and bigotry. And those are both the same job. That's how he phrased it. It's both the same job.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why can't you have that mindset?

[Chris Morrow]

Well, I think you can. And it literally just won, which was what was encouraging about it. But what's discouraging to me personally, I'm only speaking for Chris Morrow right now, is that his victory was framed nationally as a victory for anti Semitism. And I don't think that's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Calling out Bibi Netanyahu and the Israeli government and saying that Bibi Netanyahu and the Israeli government, you know, whatever Your criticism is that doesn't make you anti. Semitic. No more than calling out Donald Trump or Joe Biden or any administration here in America. It doesn't make you an American.

[Chris Morrow]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can call out Donald Trump and his administration and be a proud American. Like, I don't make me un American because I call out an administration.

[Chris Morrow]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like what? That don't make no logical sense.

[Chris Morrow]

Now, if you call me a tiny hat, you are anti Semitic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fuck you.

[Chris Morrow]

All right? That is anti Semitic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why did that one hurt? Why are you so hard?

[Chris Morrow]

Because I never heard it before. I thought I heard it all. I thought I caught every. I really thought it was love Jewish slur. And then they hit me with tiny hat. And I was like, I can't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I knew. Tiny hat. I can't believe you didn't know that was a Slurpee.

[Chris Morrow]

No one's ever said it to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[Barack Obama]

Who.

[Alex Media]

He said a hey, Arnold hat.

[Barack Obama]

Who?

[Alex Media]

You know, hey, Arnold cartoon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go back to the. Go back to the Instagram link, man. I do want people to be able to have these conversations without generalizing all Jewish people, though. That's what's making this crazy. And that's why I don't like when people say Israel, like say Bibi Netanyahu in the Israeli government.

[Chris Morrow]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And just me saying that right now is going to have a bunch of people. You know what's so funny? Nicholas will say I'm anti Semitic, but. But it'll be a bunch of people in my comments right now saying, see, they own Charlemagne.

[Chris Morrow]

He works for the tiny hat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They control him.

[Chris Morrow]

I looked this guy up, by the way, Nicholas Fonducaro, which does not sound like a Jewish name to me. Maybe he's an Italian Jew, I don't know. But my sense is his job is to watch the View, to clip certain moments and try to present them in an anti progressive, Democratic, leftist, whatever you want to call it. Light. So this is just his daily nine to five.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He doing me like academics, tv, right? Look what the caption. The caption says, the View welcomes antisemitism with open arms. The View refuses to push back when Charlemagne the God suggest the Jews control Trump in America. Let's hear the clip. Let's hear the clip.

[Chris Morrow]

Let's hear this anti Semitic stuff here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're finally speaking out on something regarding Trump. And two, is he setting vans up, you think, to take the fall? What's going on here, man? Sometimes all of this feels like a big psyop. Like they all got into a room and they said, hey, let's do some wrestling around this Iran situation. And the reason I say that is because, yo, until you hear what Israel has to say, it does not matter. And that's just the truth to me. America is not in control of this situation. And I don't feel like they ever have been. Like, whenever they do come to some type of, some type of peace agreement, Israel comes and says, no, that's not what we want. But Trump keeps telling us that Netanyahu does exactly what he wants. Nah, it don't seem like that. It seems like, you know, it seems like Trump is Netanyahu's puppet. So, you know, the conversation should be Israel, Iran and America. And until Israel and Iran come to an agreement, I don't think that there's gonna be an agreement. So I love listening to you guys. That was. We kind of like must watch tv, radio for a Democratic campaign says the View welcomes anti Semitism with open arms. The View refuses to push back when Charlemagne the God suggested Jews control Trump in America. When did I say that?

[Chris Morrow]

I'll give you a little pushback. Okay, here's the pushback.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Chris Morrow]

I don't think Israel's completely in control or manipulating Trump 100%. I think a lot of the inability to get a deal done to make sense of this war, this situation is also just due to ineptness on Trump's part and inexperience on his negotiator's part and not having a solid plan and surrounding himself with yes men who won't step up and say, like, this is

[Charlamagne Tha God]

a bad fucking idea, but let's not be prisoners. In a moment. Chris, why are we in this war to begin with?

[Chris Morrow]

Because the Israeli. I'm going to be very specific in how I say it. The Israeli government, specifically Bibi, because I can't pronounce his last name. Netanyahu. Netanyahu, maybe Bibi. And if you believe former presidents, which I tend to cuz they're coming from both sides of the aisle, they all have said now, hey, he asked us for the same thing, we said no. But in this case, he went to Trump with the same request, which is let us take off the gloves and take out Iran once and for all. I'm using air quotes cuz we've heard this before and Trump's the first one who said yes and went along with it. Now why did he say yes? Part of it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can I talk about some things that you may notice?

[Chris Morrow]

Yes, sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every time something moves a little bit more forward with that Situation. All of a sudden, here goes the doj with a little bit more to Epstein files. Every. It's just. Just look at the pattern. Every single time there's. Hey, this from the Epstein files is coming out. This from the Epstein files coming out. Just a little bit further. Just a little bit further. Whenever it seems like he's about to push back against the Eron situation.

[Chris Morrow]

I'm not fair, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why not?

[Chris Morrow]

He knew Epstein was a bad guy. Yes, they were best friends for over a decade, but he knew he was a bad guy, and he cut him off. He never spoke to him again. He said he's a bad guy at some point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He did.

[Chris Morrow]

You can't Just because you're best friends with somebody for 10 years who courts rich, famous men who have a soft spot for young women, just because you hang out with that guy and he's your best friend for 10 years. Come on. This is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All I'm saying is just notice the pattern. Whenever it goes a little further or when there's. There's either talks of peace.

[Chris Morrow]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then some. Epstein comes out, and then there's some escalation.

[Chris Morrow]

Did something come out this week?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, yo, we forgot.

[Chris Morrow]

I can't keep track of this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know you can't keep track. Hold on. It was two things that came out right before there was supposed to be a peace agreement. Well, one came out before, and then one came out right after. Hold on, let me pull it up. But what.

[Alex Media]

Is there a New York Times report that. That's the one when Bibi went into the White House or Situation Room, whatever it was, and then convinced him. But they basically lied, saying that, oh, we can topple their government and have regime change in, like, less than.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, that's June 10, 2026. Remember inside the White House, freakout over the Epstein files?

[Chris Morrow]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This was the week when they first started talking about, I think, the peace treaty. Cause when was the UFC fight?

[Chris Morrow]

And that, I believe, is an excerpt from the book that I'm reading. I believe it's actually from regime change.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then, remember, he had. Because he was trying to have some type of announcement or deal done right before he.

[Chris Morrow]

This is how basic this dude is. When the Roman Empire was collapsing, they instituted a system called bread and circus, which is whenever shit gets really bad, you hand out free bread and you have a free circus to distract people from what's really going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

True.

[Chris Morrow]

Literally, that's what they called a bread and circus. The UFC fight was the circus. They haven't handed out the bread yet, but that Was the fucking. Literally the circus. Like, we're gonna build a circus right here on the fucking lawn of the White House to distract you from that. Now, you know what's interesting, and I haven't gotten to this part of the book yet, is Trump's line of thinking they say they report, is we can't release it because it'll hurt my friends.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Chris Morrow]

I believe that's the quote in the article.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. And didn't Pam Bondi say the same thing?

[Barack Obama]

Yeah.

[Chris Morrow]

Yeah. So you would think the President of the United States, seeing how much division this is causing, who are his friends that are more important than the nation, essentially? I don't know. I literally don't know. I'm not trying to, like, oh, Pam

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bondi said that if the Epstein fathers ever come out, the society as we know it would come out collapse or something to that effect.

[Chris Morrow]

Who could possibly be in the Epstein files that would shock you so much, that would shake your sense of nobody. This country, Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody.

[Chris Morrow]

There's nobody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's not one person that they could name in the Epstein files. I'm talking about legitimately naming the Epstein files, doing some dirt. That would shock me.

[Chris Morrow]

Mr. Rogers is dead. That'd be the only one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mr. Rogers, yeah.

[Chris Morrow]

He's like the pure, you know, who's like a. If Obama was in it, I'd be like, yeah, that's.

[Alex Media]

There's a lot of people we can date.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'd be like, all right. I don't know, though. I don't think that would shock me.

[Alex Media]

Michelle Obama, like, there's a lot of people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean. Yeah, yeah. I mean, here's the thing. The only reason. Shock. I'll tell you why it wouldn't shock me. I'll tell you why it wouldn't shock me.

[Alex Media]

What if Beyonce was in there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why we always got to go to black celebrities?

[Alex Media]

I'm just pointing out. I'm pointing out people even being shocked about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But this is what I was stressing to y' all last week. These people are not the Illuminati. The people, like the. When you're talking about politicians and remember that it was that article that came out where they said it was six people named in the Epstein files, Remember? And then, remember, those names just went away. Six people that folks never heard of.

[Alex Media]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Those are the people that's running the world.

[Chris Morrow]

Guys, who's the most beloved white man in America right now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The most beloved white man in America

[Alex Media]

right now, probably Chalamet.

[Barack Obama]

Who?

[Chris Morrow]

Timothy Chalamet. He's too young yeah, he's too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, see, none of those people. Celebrities. People like politicians won't surprise me, because in my mind, I'll be like, damn. That's how they had to get where they needed to go.

[Alex Media]

Nah. The Pope. The Pope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Especially the politicians.

[Chris Morrow]

The Pope would be a shocker.

[Alex Media]

No, it wouldn't. They got a history of that.

[Chris Morrow]

Yeah, I guess you're right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't think of a shocker. Yeah, that wouldn't be a shocker. There's nobody.

[Alex Media]

Sorry. Sorry. Catholics.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What could shock you in 2000 that's pro Catholic.

[Chris Morrow]

If I would be shocked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nothing shocked me anymore. Nothing.

[Chris Morrow]

Right. I think I'm too jaded to be shocked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw a Disclosure day last week, and I was just like, they got us a fucking gig. It's another psyop movie, right? Telling us exactly what's going on in the world, and we're still watching this shit like it's fucking fiction. In Disclosure Day by Steven Spielberg, which I thought was a great movie, by the way, they literally show you every extraterrestrial conspiracy theory that you've ever heard.

[Alex Media]

They show you Roswell or documentary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a movie. It's a Steven Spielberg movie. They show you Roswell. They show you Richard Nixon when he took Jackie Gleason to go visit the fucking aliens. Yo. So I've always heard the story about Richard Nixon and how he met with aliens and he would show his celebrity friends. Aliens, right? Not all his celebrity friends, but I just. I just. I remember seeing the story, and there's a part in the movie where the woman they're showing the guy is showing the woman the tapes, and she's like, is that Richard Nixon? And he's like, yeah. And he's like. She's like, who's the guy with him? And he goes, oh, just some celebrity he was trying to impress. So as soon as I get home, you know what I mean? I'm Googling. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, richard Nixon, celebrity. First thing that comes up, Jackie Gleason.

[Chris Morrow]

Jackie Gleason.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jackie fucking Gleeson. And the guy in the movie, the Honeymooners. The Honeymooners. And it's a story of how Richard Nixon drove to Jackie Gleason's house in the middle of the night by himself. No Secret Service, no nothing. Jackie was a big UFO Guy told Jackie, he said, hey, ride with me. I want to show you something. Takes Jackie to some base and shows Jackie all of the extraterrestrial bodies they recover. Jackie comes home, tells his wife. His wife is the one that tells the story all these years later. But they show you that video of him showing Jackie Gleason in the movie.

[Alex Media]

And that's funny, he was always threatening to send his wife to the moon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what the fuck I'm seeing? You see what the fuck I'm saying? They show you the Roswell crash. They show you the crash that happened in Pennsylvania. They show you crashes that you've actually read about and heard about. And they're just. They finally decide to disclose it. Disclose it to the world. This shit is ill, man. I'm saying all that to say nothing will surprise me because they've showed us everything already. We just don't realize that we've been shown it. And then when we finally look and be like, oh, shit, I remember that from that TV show. Or, oh, I remember that from that movie. Or, oh, man, I thought that was just a conspiracy theory. No, they're telling you all the quiet parts out loud and we doing like this and we'd rather talk about fucking Target deals and stupid shit.

[Alex Media]

It's too much going on, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is a lot going on. Let's do some asking, idiots, Taylor. So we can go to Jay Z's pop up shop so I can use my employee discount. God damn it. I put in a lot of work this week, huh? Oh, yeah. Play the 50 cent clip.

[Alex Media]

I heard Jay Z's gonna give you a chain.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't want no chain. I ain't no baddie, bro. You can't be chaining it. Nah, I'm lying. I'll take a Rockefeller chain. I'm lying like a motherfucker. I'll take that chain and wear it with so much pride. I'll be at the Jay Z concert at Yankee Stadium with that Roc A Fella chain on. Telling everybody this is is real. I got it from Hov himself. Are you crazy? Are you. Hold on.

[Chris Morrow]

So what's. What's this clip? See?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, you gotta play it.

[Chris Morrow]

Who is Al Heyman and Leonard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Al Heyman and Leonard Hellerby Ellerby. Al Heyman is a boxing promoter. Leonard Ellerby is a boxing promoter as well, but I think both of them used to manage Floyd Mayweather. They used to work together. And Al Heyman and Leonard Ellaby are saying they will bury Floyd's little ass for saying he owns PBC. 50 Cent put everybody flip on you. What does it say, Taylor? Everybody flip on you when you what? Everybody flip on you when you popped first place. Damn. But you know, it's okay. You just Worry about your family and you worry about yourself. Me and you stick close together and we're gonna put his little ass in the ground. You'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Because like I said, that just pissed me off. I'm like, he own pbc. Yeah, well, you know, he's been saying that for me. He's been saying that you don't own a thing, you own yourself. Yeah. And come here. Don't even want a bunch of millions of dollars. Don't worry about that. He's got the building by take to the chair. Have a money for. I got a cover land. You just do your thing being your cupboard. Okay? Yeah, okay. Pardon me. We get into work tomorrow. Now I just hang around and your stuff's already in your money being your bank before you leave.

[Alex Media]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you. That's cold, man.

[Chris Morrow]

I have no idea what just took place.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just heard them say that they gonna bury his little ass for saying he owns pbc. I'm just playing this because, boy, people are always plotting against you. Every. Don't ever think that when you in a position. When you in a position of power or just in the position where you achieve some type of success in your life, every single day there's a motherfucker getting on the phone trying to figure out how to take you the fuck out. Straight up. I don't give a fuck. I don't care if it's boxing, radio, music, politics. Every single day there is somebody trying to take you the fuck out. That's why you just gotta, man, stay prayed up, you know, Keep divine protection around you and just keep it moving.

[Chris Morrow]

And don't make an enemy like 50 cents.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And don't you cancel. You're just a pain.

[Alex Media]

Or Charlemagne.

[Chris Morrow]

Yeah, I was gonna say Floyd's like his George Wynn, basically.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't want nobody to think that I don't have.

[Chris Morrow]

No, he loves Floyd.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, here's the thing.

[Chris Morrow]

He does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have a. No. All I did was, like I said, everybody know. I gave academics some information, and then for whatever reason, they decided to attack me for a week. Now y' all got way bigger fish to fry, which I was. I told you the fish was coming. It was a whole fucking truckload of fish coming. I told you that shit. I just want to know how I became the issue. And don't even worry about me, though. Fuck me. Talk about this crypto shit. You don't think Drake's behind it? Taylor said, do I think Drake's behind it? I have no idea. I don't care about that shit. Because. Because they try to make it about Drake, too. Like, it's like, oh, my God, people are so jealous of Drake. I don't know. I don't give a fuck. I called you in private to tell you about what your man allegedly said about you and Drake. You could have deal with that. You could have did whatever you want with that information, but for whatever reason, you and your guys decided to attack me. Did I say your theory, though? Okay, say your theory. Because the little chatty patties as well, right? Hold on.

[Alex Media]

Talk about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What'd you say? The little chatty patties, okay, So I feel like when you called, I feel like act was like, hyped to call Drake. I'm like, yo, guess who called me? Blah, blah, trying to warn me, blah, blah, blah. And if Drake is as petty as I think he is with the whole Kendrick Lamar thing and how you were bringing him up, he was like, oh, let's try to turn the. Like, spin the story or whatever. I'm just saying, like, I want to be surprised if you don't give a fuck that way. That's the difference between me and y'. All. I really don't give a. I keep telling y' all this over and over. I go to therapy to try to feel something, Okay? I don't give a fuck. I need y' all to understand.

[Alex Media]

Leave Charlamagne alone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't care. Like, I don't give a fuck, guys either, anymore.

[Chris Morrow]

I don't know what happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know neither. I'm about to be 40.

[Chris Morrow]

I really don't give a fuck anymore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My life is great. I don't care.

[Alex Media]

I still give a fuck.

[Chris Morrow]

My life's all right, but I still

[Charlamagne Tha God]

don't give a fuck. My life. My life, by the way, everybody's life is great. Everybody's doing very well. Unless, of course, you're doing something you ain't got no business doing. Then when you got something you ain't got no. When you're doing something you ain't got no business doing, then you always got to look behind your back and watch your back and shit like that. And you don't want people mentioning you next to Crypto George.

[Chris Morrow]

I think this is Trump's fault, to be honest with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why y' all don't clip this shit. Clip every. Clip up me reading them articles. Go to the Wall Street Journal. Pull them articles up. Go to inversewire.com. pull that article up. Pull up that shit. Okay, clip that clip. George being served. Go to Chick Smooth page clip Chick Smooth talking About it. Clip everybody that's talking about this stuff and post that. There's a reason y' all ain't spreading that narrative. Why? Why something? Debunk it. Tell me something, guys. Tell. Tell me the Wall Street Journal full of shit. Tell me inversewire.com full of shit. Okay, let's do some asking idiots.

[Alex Media]

Pray for everybody, babe, let's do two

[Charlamagne Tha God]

or three asking idiots and then we can get up out of here. Oh, somebody said scroll up. Who's this guy? Who's this from? Amin 1018 says, do you think this amazing World cup is distracting us from shit the government is doing?

[Chris Morrow]

No, we're distracting us from shit, bread and circus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That World cup ain't got nothing to do with that. We got so much bread on social media. Social media is all full of bread. Charlie Mariano says, do you believe in free will? Why? Why not? Absolutely. Yeah, 100% believe in free will. Everybody makes choices, man. Taylor, why are you speeding so much?

[Chris Morrow]

I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yes. I believe in free will because we all have the ability to make choices. I don't know if I believe everything is predestined. Maybe, you know, I think that you can still get to where it is God wants you to be. You know, you just making a few detours along the way. But even those detours you make help you to get to your ultimate direction. So, Yeah, I absolutely, 100% believe in free will. I don't believe that anybody is controlling us to do anything except for us. I think that we don't listen to ourselves enough, though. I think that there's so much noise nowadays, especially with social media, especially with so many opinions about, you know, you or what it is that you're doing, that a lot of that noise infiltrates our minds and causes us to do things that we. To react to react. Like it's not our. It's not our will at all. Like, we're just trying to. Man, it was a phrase I looked up earlier. I heard it when I was reading. Oh, edit your behavior. I think we edit our behavior to the noise around us, as opposed to just listening to the voices in our head, the voice in our head, which is God, salute the two chains, listening to that voice and that voice guiding us the way that we need to go. I think. I really think a lot of people edit their behavior to the voices around us. Like, there's people right now that'll be on screen watching what their followers say, are looking at their comments, and they'll say to themselves, hey, I gotta do what my followers told me to do. I gotta do what my followers told me to say, you know, most of

[Chris Morrow]

whom aren't even people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Most of whom aren't even people. So, yes, a lot of people edit their behavior to. They edit their behavior to the comments and to what other people think. Let's do one more Taylor, and then we gotta go out here and use my employee discount at the Roc Nation. Reasonable doubt pop up. Oh, my God. Nino Blue. Salute to Nino Blue. Nino Blue said, what is something you want to achieve in your lifetime that you haven't yet already? I have a couple of things right? But to be completely honest, man, I am perfectly okay with everything I've already achieved thus far. God has blessed me tremendously, tremendously. Everything else I'm currently doing right now is gravy. And I don't really have. I have a couple of, you know, personal goals for the future that I will do. But I like. I. I like seeing everybody else in position. I like being in a position to help other people get in position. That's what. That's what, like, is the ultimate thing for me right now. So when you say, what is something you want to achieve in your lifetime that you haven't yet already, God can just continue to amplify the territory I currently occupy, and I'll be perfectly fine. And when I say amplify the territory I currently occupy, I mean being in a position to continue to put more money in people's pockets, to continue to provide opportunity for other people, that's what I want to continue to do. So I'm already doing it. So if God continues to bless me with more of that, hey, great. That's it. We good?

[Alex Media]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, everybody. We see y' all in 10 days. We will not be here next week. Andrew's shooting a movie, and I will be on vacation, minding my business. All right, so until next time, if you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening.