N.B.A. National Bot Association

Summary

The Brilliant Idiots — "N.B.A. National Bot Association"

Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God & Andrew Schulz
Date: June 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

This week's Brilliant Idiots dives into the chaos and culture of the current NBA Finals, the changing face of basketball fandom in New York, celebrity drama, and the digital manipulation of modern media. With their trademark irreverence and sharp observations, Charlamagne and Schulz tackle everything from Knicks heartbreak and Trump at Madison Square Garden, to why Wemby might never be the NBA's cultural king, to internet chaos and meme warfare. As always, they take wide detours into hilarious, raunchy banter and occasionally even offer business and career advice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Knicks Playoff Frenzy, Fan Trauma & Trump at MSG

00:50 – 16:00

• The hosts celebrate the Knicks playoff run, dissecting the citywide excitement and massive fan trauma.
• Charlamagne predicts "Knicks in six" (03:33), and laments the history of disappointment:

  "We got 50 years of trauma." (02:13)

• Debate rises about the energy in Madison Square Garden, complaints about overpriced tickets, and the city’s street celebrations—sometimes rowdy, sometimes cathartic (07:10).
• Trump’s appearance at the Knicks game is heavily discussed:
  • Charlamagne thinks James Dolan inviting Trump was a mistake:

    "It inconvenienced the everyday working class people of New York." (04:02)

  • Schulz jokes about the crowd's mixed reaction during the National Anthem:

    "They cut to him. It's boos and cheers, though... The guy singing doesn’t know they’re booing Trump, probably thinks he’s bombing." (05:15–06:09)

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2. Culture Clash: Knicks Fandom vs. The World

16:00 – 22:55

• The electric atmosphere created by long-suffering Knicks fans is compared to NY's other teams:

  "I’ve never seen the energy in the city like this for the Knicks... Not for the Yankees." (12:39)

• Pricing out real fans is lamented; Charlamagne and Schulz complain about how the average New Yorker is often excluded from playoff games.

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3. Wembanyama, Face of the League, and What Makes NBA Stars Culturally Iconic

20:44 – 36:14

• In-depth debate on Victor Wembanyama (Wemby) as the NBA’s potential "Face of the League":
  • Charlamagne doubts it:

    "You have to impact culture. What is Wemby doing to connect with culture?" (21:08) "He’s 7’5”... you can't aspire to that." (22:20)

  • Schulz notes even great big men rarely become cultural icons. Shaq is the exception thanks to his dominance and personality.
  • Chris counters that Wemby appeals to a "different demographic," but the hosts maintain culture, dominance, and charisma are what count most.
• Comparison to Jordan and how cultural moments (like the Air Jordan 1 ban) fueled myth-making:

  "Jordan was otherworldly on the court... he was culture in ways you still feel today." (21:57 – 22:04)

Notable Quote:

"You gotta be dominant on the court. There have to be no doubt who the man is." – Charlamagne (23:28)

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4. Knicks vs. Spurs: Series Breakdown & The 'Culture' of Physical Basketball

16:10 – 20:44 & 31:31 – 38:18

• Complaints about referees bias and missed calls in the Finals.
• Knicks' need for more physical play ("Charles Oakley needs to walk in tonight!") (11:34).
• Discussion of tactics to neutralize Wemby, and who the Knicks' true second-best player is (Cat vs. OG).
• Critique of the modern NBA's lack of an undisputed superstar, and how today's league feels leaderless:

  "The NBA does not have a face of the league. That’s why it’s so important the Knicks are in the finals right now." – Charlamagne (29:06)

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5. Becoming the ‘Face of the League’: Charisma, Culture & Reluctant Stars

36:14 – 44:50

• Can Jalen Brunson become the face of the NBA if the Knicks win?
  • The hosts agree: humility and focus make him more aspirational, just as it did with Steph.
  • Schulz: "Wanting to take the final shot... that's Jalen." (28:04)
  • Charlamagne: "Jaylen gives me mamba mentality." (29:57)
• Debate on whether charisma is required; LeBron, Kobe, AI, and Jordan are referenced for comparison.

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6. Stand-up, Movie, and Internet Culture: Clipping, Bots & The New Influence Game

87:38 – 109:00

• Deep dive into how bots, Clipping Agencies ("Eddie Cumberbatch, Propaganda Media"), and meme pages now manufacture virality and influence.

  • "Bots have now passed human traffic online."

  • "Awareness is one thing but emotional engagement is another."

• Schulz discusses the difference between elective (chosen) and unelected (algorithm-fed) content:

  • "What we consume most online causes us anxiety and misery – we don’t even want it." (94:23–94:43)

  • "Movies and stand-up still win because they offer real, escapist, emotionally engaging experiences."

• Rise of creators who own their audience—example: Drewski making his own movie (102:02).
• Analysis of how stars & studios must now follow independent creators' lead.

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7. Internet Beef, Meme Page Drama, and Crypto Paranoia

69:04 – 86:00

• Charlamagne addresses drama with George Nguyen (“Grand Wizard Chat”), DJ Akademiks, and meme pages, accusing others of panicking over crypto, investigation rumors, and internet beef.
• Satirical references to "illegal gambling," "money laundering," and "campaign violations"
• Highlighted the insular and often bizarre worlds of meme-driven digital influence.

Notable Quote:

"It's easy to hide behind memes. But now you see panic about crypto, and you just wonder why people are so afraid their pic is out there." – Charlamagne (74:24)

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8. Comedy Deep Dive: What’s The Difference Between 'Funny' and 'Comedy?'

125:45 – End

• The hosts debate the difference between "being funny" (a natural trait) and "doing comedy" (a learned craft).
  • Tracy Morgan (quoted live): "I can teach you comedy, I can't teach you to be funny... that comes from your soul." (126:10)
  • Chris Farley, Jim Carrey, Chris Rock cited as examples of natural, observational vs. structural comedy.
• Comparison to basketball big men: "Best comics are like big men who develop a full game." (129:38)

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9. Legendary Raunch and Absurdity

42:37 – 67:00; 119:04–122:12

• Ridiculous riffing on Tom Brady’s "Good Nut" coconut water
  • Many minutes of jokes about "drinking Brady’s nut" (43:08).
• Spiraling conversation about oral hygiene, summer sex etiquette, and who really sucks–men or women.
• Hilarious wine-pairing-with-dicks segment:

  Schulz: "If you like black dick, the best wine would be a pinot noir." (121:00) Charlamagne: "A penis noir!" (121:05)

• Masculinity, survival situations, and "what's truly gay" for the sake of family.

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10. Memorable Moments & Quotes

Cultural Moments:

• Schulz: "Survival gay is not gay... Sucking dick for the taste is culinary arts." (119:29, 119:37)
• Charlamagne: "You don’t want to be known as Stink Dick Steve or Pungent Pussy Pam." (49:23, 49:26)
• On Knicks vibe:

  "New York feels amazing when the Knicks are winning." (15:49)

• On internet virality:

  "No one just goes viral anymore; everybody doing mass, mass clipping." (89:02–89:10)

Basketball Philosophy:

• "When little guys win, it’s different, bro. It inspires the nation." (27:21)
• "The refs are acting crazy–egregious, they missed two flagrants." (16:06)

Comedy & Culture:

• "Jordan never called himself the GOAT." (27:33)
• "Funny is a way of life." – Tracy Morgan, quoted by Charlamagne (126:51)

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Timestamps for Segments

• Knicks/NYC playoffs, Trump saga: 00:50–16:00
• Knicks fandom, city energy: 12:39–16:00
• Wemby/Face of League debate: 20:44–44:50
• Physicality & NBA Finals breakdown: 16:10–38:18
• Charisma/Face of the League: 36:14–44:50
• Meme pages/beef/crypto: 69:04–86:00
• Modern digital virality: 87:38–109:00
• Comedy & culture: 125:45–End
• Raunch, coconut water bits: 42:37–67:00
• Q&A/Asking Idiots: 110:53–126:12

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Closing Notes

Schulz and Charlamagne turn the madness of NYC playoff culture, the digitization of influence, and basketball’s shifting pantheon into a smart, hilarious conversation. Whether mocking media, dissecting blockbusters, or turning oral sex into highbrow wine jokes, the Brilliant Idiots stay true to their name—and prove, once again, that sports, fame, and culture are most fun when nobody's taking themselves too seriously.

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Transcript

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Taylor]

Well, that's cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you don't understand. It went perfectly. Real offer down to the penny. They're picking it up tomorrow. Nothing went wrong. So what's the problem? That is the problem.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nothing in my life goes to smoothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm waiting for the catch. Maybe there's no catch.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's exactly what a catch would want me to think. Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You need to relax. I need to knock on wood.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do we have wood?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is this table wood? I think it's laminate. Okay, yeah, that's good. That's close enough. Car selling without a catch. Sell your car today on Carvana. Pick up fees may apply. Yeah, I'm Charlamagne Tha God.

[Andrew Schultz]

Andrew Schultz.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Heather. Kyle Walker.

[Andrew Schultz]

What's up, my boy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you, sir?

[Andrew Schultz]

Man, I'm. Listen, we got a big game tonight. We're recording this on Wednesday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I told you. Knicks in six, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Knicks in five.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go back and listen to the pod. Last week I told y' all that they was going to win game two. They're going to lose game three and five. They're going to win game six in the garden, baby. And I don't know why the Knicks started pandemonium so early. Not yet, Knicks fans, because we got trauma, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

We got. I got long. I got long armpit hair, but we got trauma. That's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Monar got bangs is crazy. What the is going on with you, bro? Look like you got Caitlyn Jenna at a headlock.

[Andrew Schultz]

Which part of her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She has Harry Potom? Harry Botom?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, man, the. Yeah, we got trauma, bro. We got 50 years of trauma.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

N. I think that. Honestly, I think that three years y' all acting No, I think everything was fine. I think the reason that you had so many fights outside of game three was because of Donald Trump, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, let me just tell you something. Like why is it when Americans fight outside of games, it's not culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh no, this is not culture.

[Andrew Schultz]

When Europeans fight outside of stadiums, it's culture. These are the hooligans. These are the fans. These people really love the sport. A couple people be in their jersey taking off outside of the Knicks game. Listen, Times Square is so safe. Think about it. That if that is the craziest thing to happen in Times Square, look how far New York has come.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, listen, since the shot of

[Andrew Schultz]

healthcare CEO in Times Square, we just taken off a jersey.

[Taylor]

Yeah, don't do that. Don't let me get the light.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're not just taking off since last year. They were doing this to fans though.

[Andrew Schultz]

This guys we got so much better, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They've been doing this to fans since last year.

[Andrew Schultz]

Doing what? Just be just caring about your team.

[Taylor]

That's out of control.

[Andrew Schultz]

Listen, also, we don't know what them spurs fans said where they be being disrespectful.

[Taylor]

No, they just chase. They literally see a video of them chasing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. So what did they do?

[Taylor]

Jersey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know why?

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't know. They was probably talking crazy. Disrespectful. Talking about our women. Talking about. Talking about our women. I mean, it's crazy the way they were disrespecting you. They were disrespecting. All the different women in New York

[Charlamagne Tha God]

was perfectly fine until Donald Joy Killer Trump came and sucked all the joy out of him, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

That was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not one of these people that say things like Trump caused them to lose. But I think it was very stupid for James Dolan to invite him to the game simply because it inconvenienced the everyday working class people of New Son.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was absolutely. It was inconvenient to go to. Like we went to the game. It was inconvenient to go there. But what I will say though is I thought that it was going to be like a focal point throughout the game. Once the game started. Nobody even gave a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't think, I don't think

[Andrew Schultz]

it was locked in energy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I don't think nobody cared. But I, I just. It's literally they try to. Wait.

[Andrew Schultz]

They try to protect him from a boo too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Oh no. He got booed.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, but they didn't get booed as

[Charlamagne Tha God]

bad as the spurs though.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let me tell you something. So I Was like, what are they gonna do? Because they gotta show him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They only showed him once.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know, I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

During the national dope.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, can I get there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

God damn. So I was like, how are they gonna show him? Because I know they're gonna try to protect them from the.

[Chris]

Boo. Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

National anthem starts. This guy's voice is unbelievable. This guy's saying, oh, my God. He plays a scarecrow in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, it's gotta be the wizard of Oz and whiz.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know which one it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One of the odds adaptions.

[Andrew Schultz]

Anyway, during the national anthem, they cut to him quick. That's the only time they cut to him. So naturally, I'm sure they're thinking, like, all right, nobody's gonna boot a national anthem, right? They cut to him. Is booze and cheers, though. I know everybody wants to be like, oh, it's just. It was boozing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I said on tv. You couldn't tell.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. The guy singing the national anthem.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thought he was.

[Andrew Schultz]

Doesn't know that they cut the truck. You think you bombing, so you singing your heart out. First home games, three years. He's killing it. People are into it. All of a sudden, you hit one note,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

digging your grain. You know by the flashback.

[Taylor]

His name, Avery Wilson.

[Andrew Schultz]

So I think they must have told him ahead of time because he didn't even flinch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So naturally, as soon as I knew that he would be there, I had an idea. In New York, crowds and audiences are very, very honest sometimes maybe too honest to a point.

[Andrew Schultz]

Energy that you cannot contain.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I knew that there would be something. And because I had in ears in. I rarely didn't hear it, if I'm honestly speaking. So I was just like, okay, you know, moving on.

[Andrew Schultz]

He kept moving.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, a good singer wouldn't go.

[Taylor]

He's a great singer.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A good singer would.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, phenomenal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because you gotta have ego. I know they ain't booing me. Let me. That ain't.

[Andrew Schultz]

But imagine you're killing it. I mean, he was killing it. Everybody's into it. And then out of nowhere, boo. Now, I wonder if maybe he thought maybe they panned to a Spurs player. Maybe they panned to Wemby or some like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe somebody. But maybe they told him that, like, that's we're going to pan.

[Andrew Schultz]

They had. Because that would have shocked the out of anybody. You singing the Nation song in the Garden, and all of a sudden you

[Charlamagne Tha God]

just get hit with the somebody probably prepped them, though. They let them know, like, yo, Trump's in the building. So just be prepared for anything that may happen. But I just think the thing that pissed me off the most, not even is Dolan Antrum. Because even if Dolan invites you, you gotta say, nah, that wouldn't be a good look for New York. You're from New York. You know better than anybody, no Dolan slander.

[Andrew Schultz]

While we're in up to the finals right now, we're not doing no Dolan slander. I'm a company man now. Up to one. No, you're from South Carolina and you live in New Jersey. It's got nothing to do with you. That's true. It's like me talking about the Lady Gamecocks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't care about the working class people in New York City.

[Andrew Schultz]

Say what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't care about the working class people in New.

[Andrew Schultz]

The people reselling tickets don't care about them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They. They need to come up.

[Andrew Schultz]

They need.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I am happy for them. Shout out to all the people.

[Andrew Schultz]

How dare you say I don't care about the working class people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't care about them.

[Andrew Schultz]

How dare you sell tickets. Watch control ticket prices.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Watch party was cancelled outside of New York City. Thousands of people who can't get tickets, who sit outside of New York, who. Who patron the bars in the restaurant.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can't have a both.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. God.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can't have it both ways.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How. How this. Respect selfish James Dalton and Donald Trump.

[Andrew Schultz]

New York Knicks fans are violent. Oh, you can't do it. But then all of a sudden. So can we have a Watch party? Can we not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know who's not violent enough? Who? The actual New York Knicks. How dare y' all let Wimby just get. I'm Brunson just getting mushed and shoved to the ground. Y' all let Wimby get that off in New York. Robinson you supposed to run through his chest.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I tell you? Can I tell you? This is. And I mean this sincerely. The one criticism that I had from the game was when the spurs went up early, the Garden was silent. And the advantage you have as a home game is that you got your fans that are there dying for you. And I think the ticket prices are so expensive. I'm not saying that they're not Nick fans, you know what I mean? But there was 6.8 seconds left on the clock and we were down 4. And I got video of people walking out. You don't leave a fucking playoff game with 6.8 seconds down, four with the ball.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no, no. Different circumstances. You know that. Everything's blocked the fuck off. So you gotta walk five or six blocks. You couldn't even park near the fucking garden.

[Andrew Schultz]

6.8 seconds left on the clock.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They doing that tonight, too.

[Andrew Schultz]

I live here now. Damn. That's where I live. Damn. And you guys gotta figure it out because I'm blocked in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm not leaving the Garden till that game is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A parking attendant told me some real today, man. He was like, yo, they got everything.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you're missing working class.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Chris]

That's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

What else happened?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Talking to the working class?

[Andrew Schultz]

When I was at the soup kitchen earlier, some guy told me something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said that because everything.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was driving the subway here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, he said, because everything is blocked off.

[Andrew Schultz]

The guy told me so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But think about this. He said, because everything is. Is blocked off for five or six blocks. He said it's actually scary because now when you leave the Garden, you gotta walk. And people are out there wild.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what he said. He said people out there wildly.

[Andrew Schultz]

It was crazy. It was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We walk.

[Andrew Schultz]

We walked through the projects to get away.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't have no security.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's how scary that was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why you don't have.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm with my wife, and I'm like, yo, we gotta go that way. And she's like, through the projects. I'm like, it's safer.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are the projects by the Garden?

[Andrew Schultz]

It's not that far. There's projects down like 24th Street. Oh, that's where the Wayans brothers grew up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I thought they grew up in Brooklyn.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, Chelsea.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, gotcha.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, you think they've got the inspiration for them gay characters? White chicks, all that is ready to have a block, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the time y' all hear this, game four have already happened. Wimby got to get it tonight, bro. Wemby got to get it.

[Andrew Schultz]

We got friends, we got. We got Wimy on lock. We're not worried about Wimy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, nah. But you can't let him do what he did to Brunson, bro. You can't let him do what the. You gotta send a message. I don't care if Brunson was grabbing his jersey. Bring one of them guys off the bench. What's that big ass seven footer they got on the bench that start with an hooky to some like that. He came up from the G League, have him run through. Just put him in the. Run through. Wimby's chest that's it. Knock Wimby on his ass, boy. Show. Send the message, man. Charles Oakley can't be in the Garden with the spirit of. Charles Oakley needs yo that.

[Andrew Schultz]

That'd be the most fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Charles Oakley walks in tonight. Tell me that when it sets a

[Charlamagne Tha God]

roof, that's what James Dolan needs to do to get back in New York. As good graces, you let Charles up their life. On to Monday. You.

[Andrew Schultz]

You do Charles Oakley. Chill with this later. We do Charles.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're up to one.

[Andrew Schultz]

We do Charles Oakley coming back into the Garden, and you have it delayed, man. And then all of a sudden, he walks out first before the team. Oh, the Garden.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That shit'll go crazy. Yeah, that shit'll go crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, yeah, it was super inconvenient and everybody was super annoyed by it. And actually, it was corny as fuck from Trump, to be honest with you. Because it's like, what are we even thinking? Like, what is the point of this? Like, everything is working out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why are you there?

[Andrew Schultz]

Don't change nothing. I felt scared to go to the game myself. This is how superstitious I am. I wasn't at the two games where we won in San Antonio. So I'm like, should we just keep that going? I get stopped all the time for people on the street that are like, hey, can you make my TikTok about the Knicks? And I'm like, I don't want to talk about this. I feel uncomfortable even talking about the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

greatest thing about the Knicks, what game

[Andrew Schultz]

he would go to and we lose. Don't do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't do that. The greatest thing about the Knicks run is the fans. That is the funnest I have. I've been in New York for 20 years. I've never seen the energy in the city.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now, you like that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not.

[Andrew Schultz]

You like the energy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not for the Yankees. Not for the. I've never felt it. You never felt it? The is you talking about? No, you didn't.

[Andrew Schultz]

We made it to the finals.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't remember that?

[Andrew Schultz]

Of course I remember that. You weren't even born Charlamagne. I wasn't born when we won.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

99.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're right. 99. We were there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're right. It felt like this.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I mean, you're a kid, so everything's magnified. Right? Like, the world is just insane.

[Chris]

And also when the Rangers made the Stanley cup finals.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know if I give a about that. Look. Yeah, they did. Here's the reality. New York is a baseball city.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it?

[Andrew Schultz]

Sorry. Basketball.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was about to say New York

[Andrew Schultz]

is a basketball city. We didn't have funding in the public school. Like my public school had a basketball team only. Right. And we didn't even have a basketball court in our school. We had to go to basketball city to play our home. Our home games were away.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it was caught everywhere. It's a court everywhere.

[Andrew Schultz]

So yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a basketball city. Baseball. We're known the Yankees, but like no one really grows up playing baseball. You play Little league until you're like 11 and then you never touch a baseball again. Maybe the Puerto Ricans, Dominicans keep playing, but outside of that, nobody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They play with a stickball. They play stickball.

[Andrew Schultz]

When the Yankees went on that run, the city was a lot like this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I've seen the Yankees runs, I've seen Mets runs. I've seen Giants, Super Bowls, nothing like this.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is a basketball city. And, and basketball rules. And if the Knicks are good, the like listen, the price of admission to a Knicks playoff game is a lot different than the Yankees. I understand there's more tickets, whatever available to. I get it, I get it. The, the, the stadium is bigger, but it's just a testament to how much people love the game and how much people love the Knicks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nori said he had on a Knicks jersey.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he was walking and he got caught in the, the Israel, Israel Day parade. And he was walking and the officers was like Knicks. And he was like Nixon fall. And they opened the gate for let him walk through and you know how safe the Israel Day parade was.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They just let him walk through because he had a Knicks jersey on. Yo, I never seen no shit like this in New York. Never felt anything like it. I, I, I don't think anything's comparable.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think there's, I'm not even joking. I don't think means everything. I don't think there's anything the only other sporting, the only other sporting event or sports energy that would compare 9, 11. No, I'm talking about just sports. The Cowboys go back to the Super Bowl.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you're saying like the energy and excitement.

[Taylor]

Nah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Cause it's a go back. You guys are used to success.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, not since the 90s, bro. We ain't been since 96.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but you won. Like our whole childhood was dominated by you guys winning. So you remember winning?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

None of us have a memory of us winning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Bill Jackson was playing basketball when we won.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn, damn, damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can you, can you just imagine that for A second. The announcer of the Knicks was on the team the last time we won. Dang.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You talk about Clyde Frazier. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, this is a different situation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is, man. I've never seen anything like it. I. I've never seen anything like it. Never felt anything like it. New York feels amazing when the Knicks are winning.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I want them to win. I mean, they're going to win tonight because they're going to win the series. Knicks and six.

[Andrew Schultz]

The Zebras, though, are acting a little crazy.

[Chris]

Come on now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because I. I'm not one to. About the raps.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They are.

[Andrew Schultz]

It was egregious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now they are. They are. It was egregious. They missed two flagrants.

[Andrew Schultz]

And after review, because, you know, they review after the game that pushed the. The Castle push on Brunson was insane.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That wasn't a push. Forearm to chest, fucking push the bulldog. That was a flop about football.

[Chris]

You're talking about the rebound.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to know rebound. Let's don't know the play we talking about. I'm talking about when it looks like somebody handed him the ball and he was running for a first down.

[Andrew Schultz]

Look at the. No, it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the wimy one.

[Andrew Schultz]

The wimy push.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wimby is crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, the WY push.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All of these castle ran through him.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, he ran through with the form. And they called it a foul. So they knew it was a foul. And then they went and said after review, they're like, no, it wasn't a flagrant. It's like, come on, guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There was another backbone. I don't know if it was game one or game. I think it was game. It was game two because they won by one when they rescinded the technical the next day. So you had refs call in Texas. What if they don't lock? What if the Knicks would have lost by one, but then the next day you rescind the technical foul.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think they can't call a tech on Wemby because if they call a tech on him, he's out of the game because he got a flagrant earlier over the elbow, like in. Earlier the playoffs or some shit. Like Wemby's kind of in a position where, like, they fear if they call another one on it. We should look this up to make sure I'm accurate. Has enough points yet to be ejected. I thought he was at that point. I'm pretty sure.

[Chris]

I don't think they would reset it in the playoffs anyway. I don't think anything from the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, that Was. That was the playoffs.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, this is during the play.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

During the playoff.

[Chris]

Because of the first.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think. And I also don't know why the Knicks are scared of Wendy. I hate when they take.

[Andrew Schultz]

We're not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no, no.

[Andrew Schultz]

We got Wendy on lock.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, but I'm talking about when they take the ball down low and he's standing there.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, no. You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They run back out.

[Andrew Schultz]

We are scared of him. Defense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why?

[Andrew Schultz]

Going to block it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You might get a block, but you might get a gold 10. You might get a foul. Yo, OG backed him down and dunked on him with two hands, bro. Taking the whip. Take it right to him. OG Is the only one.

[Andrew Schultz]

OG Is a bad man.

[Chris]

Second best player.

[Andrew Schultz]

Say what?

[Chris]

I think he's the ne. Nick's second best player.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no. Cat is. Cat is. Guys, the Cat slander.

[Chris]

OG Is more consistent.

[Andrew Schultz]

First of all, just hold on a second. The Cat slander is crazy. I didn't think Cat could play defense like this. And I think that is what has transformed Ms. Nick's team. Also having Cat up at the top of the key and running the pick and roll through him. So he feels involved.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They should make him the focal point of the office now.

[Andrew Schultz]

What. What. What the spurs did was. Was really smart, is they put like some. They put Castle or somebody else on Cat up at the key and they were kind of like denying him the ball. And now you have. Wemby can kind of float. He like floats off of Josh Hart now. Thank God, Josh hit like four threes last game, which was amazing. That's what we need to do to punish them for that. But like, now, Wemby's flowing by the rim. If we can pull Wemby out to the three point line with Cat, Cat will do Wemby dirty. There's nothing Wemby can do to stop Cat when he's going downhill. Nothing at all. And then Cat's D on Wemby whenever they're one on one. That's a guaranteed lockdown from Cat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, Cat's beating them off the dribble. Oh, that first step blown by Wimy. That's it.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's no person on the spurs one on one that can get in front of Cat and stop him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why do you think he winded so fast? Like Wimby? Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

French.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just the. What you mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

It's French.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What does that mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

They built different out in Europe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like he. Why does he always got. It's like five minutes. You got to go sit down. Why? I don't get that. You know what, Tay probably right. But I mean, like, analytics.

[Andrew Schultz]

Probably tired, you know, I mean, you're right. You're probably running up and down a

[Charlamagne Tha God]

lot, but it's probably just that. You know what I mean? Yeah, his legs probably do.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it's probably just his legs hurting.

[Taylor]

Yeah. His body, like, look, it's just tall.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just probably.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think we got to get Cat going early. We didn't do that. And also, Mel Bridges got two fouls in, like, the first few minutes. They had to yank him out, and

[Charlamagne Tha God]

that kind of threw. If. If Cat scores 20 and Mel scores 18, the Knicks win this game. We.

[Andrew Schultz]

We. We also going to have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Jaylen hasn't had a great shooting game either, the whole series.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he's averaging 25, which is crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Jaylen just gets you a bucket whenever you need. But we playing absolutely phenomenally. We're locking down defensively. We got to stop giving up open threes to Champeni. Like, it's. You know, he's a New Yorker, so my heart kind of goes out for him a little bit. But, like, you're not going to lose to Champagne. You'll lose to Wemby. You'll lose to. That's pretty much it. But you're not going to let Champagne beat you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, Castle is a beast, and Harper's nasty. Those three, like, they are going to be fun to watch for years to come, bro. They are going to be fun to watch for years to come, but not this year. We need the Knicks to win this, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just good for the league, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

It's good for culture, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's good for culture. By the way, can we talk culture? I was having a conversation with somebody that pissed me off this week, so you know how we keep having the conversation about Wimby and how it's hard for a foreigner to be the face of the league, but if anybody has a chance to do it, it's Wemby. I'm not sure anymore, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

He will one day potentially have that, but, like, this series exposed him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna tell you why. I don't see how, number one, you have to be phenomenally great. He's good. He's good, and we've seen glimpses of greatness, but he's good. He has good games. Still gotta win, right? He's in the finals. Cool. But you still have to impact culture. What is Wemby doing to connect with culture? Y' all know what I mean? When I say culture, like, Michael Jordan was cultured, number one. Think about those Jordan ones when they first came out and how phenomenal they were. They just looked good. But, you know, there's one thing people forget about those Jordan ones. They got banned by the NBA. Everybody forgets that. Cause they didn't comply with the. I think the uniform colors or some shit like that. And so Nike said, fuck it. Let's run a campaign talking about how they were, how this shoe was bad. It was a simple ad.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. It's rebellious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So now the hood already was on them, but now everybody gotta have them. That helps connect with culture. Then you get to. Then Michael just. First of all, Michael was otherworldly. That's the other thing, too, right? He was otherworldly on the court. So all of that happens. Then you get to Spike Lee commercials and all of that. You're connected with culture in ways that you still feel it today. What is Wemby doing to connect with culture? He's 7 foot 5, so you can't aspire to be.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't think Biggs can ever do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's dangly, right? His voice sound. He's foreign. He's in the. He's walking around barefoot. I want to get a feel of my first win in the guard. Get the fuck out of here.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, I'm as thin as it gets,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

but ain't no grass in there. There. Just only called it garden. Not a garden. For real. Can you get. What. Why are we falling for this type of. I want to take my shoes off and walk around the garden. Get a feel of my first finals when. Man, shut the. Up in the park drawing. Yeah. That ain't culture, bro. That ain't coach.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's a little too European. Yes.

[Taylor]

Is he a good artist?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor asked all the right questions. She does. I mean, these are the right questions. I don't know if he's a good artist or not. Okay. I just don't know a big.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's ever been the face of the league.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, you do.

[Andrew Schultz]

No. Shaq.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shaquilla o'.

[Andrew Schultz]

Neal. Yeah. But Shaq was so transformative in terms of like. Like, his agility, his movement, culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First of all, he was. He was dominant no more. First of all, you got to be dominant.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have to be dominant on the. There have to be no doubt who the man is on the court, win or lose. That was Shaq. But also, he was culture in every sense of the word. Shaq rapped, he breakdanced. He was amazing in Interviews. When you go back and watch Shaq interviews now, it was almost like watching the Rock, bro. Stone cold Steve Austin. He just knew what to say when it was a microphone in his face.

[Andrew Schultz]

Also he was in that movie Shazam.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, which one? Blue Chips. Blue Chips. But also too. This is another good point. Van always says this. He talks about how when we watch you in college, we connect with you in a different way. We didn't see what Wimby was doing over there in France.

[Chris]

Not so much anymore, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't watch it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, not anymore. But back then. Back then you watched Shaq is culture.

[Chris]

I think he's just a different culture. So I think he's appealing to a different demographic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What demographic is that?

[Chris]

My kids love him. My daughter's obsessed with him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe. Yeah, I don't believe.

[Chris]

Fascinated by it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris, I don't believe you. I was with Asian doing does relate to kids. True story. My daughter. I took my daughter to dinner on Saturday night. Her and two of her friends, Asian American and a Brazilian. And Dylan went to school like near there, so I forgot the school in Jersey, but he went to school near that. So they used to always see each other at the games and everything. And my daughter cheerleads with his sister. Dylan. Dylan Harper's sister, yeah. So one of the friends in the backseat is like the real tall guy on the spurs is terrible. You know, the real, real tall one, he can't play. And I'm sitting there thinking, God, he's actually the best player on the team. But being that they don't watch basketball and they've only watched the finals for the first two games, they think he sucks. Imagine being the tallest person on the team and you don't know nothing about basketball, but you just think if you're tall, you're supposed to be good and you think he's terrible. My point is they didn't even know his name, Chris. They just said the tallest person on the team is terrible. This is a 17 year old Asian American.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right?

[Chris]

I mean, look, my daughter, 16, she watches a ton of NBA. She knows it inside out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And she loves her dad, though. Yeah.

[Chris]

I mean, we watch together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, you know, and she likes. She thinks wimby's good.

[Chris]

She thinks she's more fascinated by his personality more than anything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What personality? Got a lot of.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, he's got personality. Personality. It's just not culture.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is the person I'm trying to. I'm trying to see.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's Euro. Yeah. Yeah, he's Euro. He's Euro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kind of hip hop, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I didn't say hip hop.

[Chris]

He's not.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's not hip hop. He's Euro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was that gay? But is that what y' all saying to me? It's not. That's what it sounds like. Y' all are saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It sounds to me like you said Nike should come out with jersey dresses.

[Andrew Schultz]

Dresses.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Forex. Bring back the Forex. Jersey dress from Wimby, yo. That's what y' all want to wear.

[Andrew Schultz]

He wore like a. Like a dress to the. To game one or something. Well, no, that was like a religious thing. Oh, it was a religious thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I saw that, man. I saw that. I saw that. He was out there looking like a Shaolin punk. He was dressed like a Shaolin punk. I saw that. Listen, all I'm saying is this, man. I need Wimby to be more dominant. Yo, if y' all gonna give him this Face of the League already. If y' all already crowned him, where's the dominance?

[Andrew Schultz]

They're not giving him face of the league. Now, here's the real question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

If the Knicks win, do you give Jalen the league?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think Jalen gets it by. I think he gets it because, you know, here's the thing. That's the other thing about Face of the League. You don't. You gotta. People give you that. Like, that's something that naturally, organically happens. I can look at Jalen and aspire to be like Jalen, just like Steph. Little guys, yo, when little guys win, it's different, bro. It inspires the nation.

[Chris]

But Hart had a quote about that, because someone asked him about that the

[Andrew Schultz]

other day, what he said.

[Chris]

He said one of the reasons that Jalen's so great is he doesn't want any of that. Well, he doesn't court it. He doesn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the best way to get it, Chris.

[Chris]

And that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jordan never called himself the Goat.

[Chris]

Well, I'm saying that's how he's become a great player, because he's focused on what's happening on the court, and he leaves it all alone. Now, what do you do when this mantle is handed to you? Is another question. But, like, part of being the best is also wanting that kind of acknowledgment. He doesn't seem to give a shit. To his credit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I mean.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, Jordan never wants to be called the Goat.

[Chris]

He wanted the commercials. He wanted the Mars black man. He wanted all that sort of shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I mean, Jordan said, you know, there's no iron team, but there's an iron win.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's real, though. Yeah, but that's what it comes down to. Wanting to take the final shot. Like, wanting to in those moments, which is Jalen, by the way. Jalen, man, when the last time we seen that, yo, we gotta respect LeBron. But Bron used to give. Bron gives it up in the. In the clutch for a lot of. In a lot of moments.

[Andrew Schultz]

If I was to defend LeBron, I would say LeBron makes the right basketball play. So the right basketball play might be in that final moment to dish it to the open shooter that's on the corner.

[Chris]

Maybe, but except in the last two minutes, all that shit goes out the window.

[Andrew Schultz]

My point is, he is making the right basketball play, but when it's the final shot of the game, yeah, the right basketball players have the best player on the floor shoot the shot. And to LeBron's credit, late in his career, he has gone down as one of the most clutch players ever. Early in his career, there was questions about it, and then something shifted, and then the back half of his career, he's been absolutely on fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I give LeBron a lot of credit, man. Especially now, because being the face of the league is hard, bro. Like, being the face of the league is hard. And the last time I saw this was after Michael Jordan retired. But the difference was you had so many great players that felt like faces of the league. You still had Shaquille. Kobe's in there, still had Kobe. AI was still around. Like, you still had all of these cultural figures that felt like faces of the league. Right now, everything is so fragmented, bro. The NBA does not have a face of the league. That's why it's so important. Important that the Knicks are in the NBA Finals right now. Yo, this feels like the NBA now. For.

[Andrew Schultz]

For to be the face of the league. Do you need charisma as well?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, you need charisma, personality. You got to be dominant on the court. You got to connect with culture. Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

So that's an interesting thing. Like, hard to give it to Jalen because he don't really give you much. Yeah, Jaylen is more reserved when it comes to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jaylen gives me mamba mentality, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's the right things in the interviews.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's a killer. Don't get me wrong. But, like, Charles Barkley had charisma out the ass when he was in the league.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Very rare, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's very rare.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Very rare.

[Andrew Schultz]

Jordan Lebron has charisma. Jordan had charisma too. Kobe. Kobe, absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think they were killers. It was because they was killer. Like when I hear Jalen say he won't even go. He hasn't even took a take a picture with the Larry o' Brien trophy.

[Andrew Schultz]

But he not commenting on it. Kobe would comment on it. He's saying no comment. The Larry o' Brien trophy is everywhere it's ever present. It's on the set, it's next to the court, it's in rooms that you're asked to go and shoot promotional videos with. But you wouldn't go in. You didn't want to be near the trophy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why?

[Andrew Schultz]

How'd you hear about that? I know, I know what's happening.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's no comment.

[Andrew Schultz]

Comment after, maybe the Larry o' Brien trophy's in reach.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No comment.

[Andrew Schultz]

Kobe would be like, yes, I'll take a picture when it's mine. Like they would talk like that. So, like, again, Jalen not wanting it is probably what makes us want to give it to him so much.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I wonder if in order to be the face of the league, you need to carry personality wise. Like Ant, for example, ain't got the baby mama issues, but like, Ant has undeniable charisma and the league would love to just hand it over to him, but he's got some familial. There's a problem when you got little kids wanting to come watch the games. Yeah.

[Chris]

And he's got to make it to the finals.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, you gotta win, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't got. You don't gotta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta win. Shows.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no. You have to win eventually. But like, AI never won.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And AI had face of the league. Yeah. I had culture. Hey, I had us. He never had the league, never wanted to give it to AI. I'm not even sure Kobe had it, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

So that's the argument.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not even sure Kobe had it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait for it. So that's the argument. People in LA thought that Kobe was like the league and everything like that. But then he had his stuff with the. The case or whatever. And then LA still loved him, sport him, obviously, because he's a phenomenal player. But like, New York never looked at it like, yo, that guy's the face of the league.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And the NBA backed off. We forget.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He lost a lot of endorsements. He lost big endorsements like McDonald's. And Nike never dropped him. But Nike couldn't make him the face of a lot of campaigns.

[Andrew Schultz]

They had to wait a little Second.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They had to wait a second, and

[Andrew Schultz]

then Bron comes in, and all of a sudden, Bron's cooking, and they start

[Charlamagne Tha God]

playing the level of Kobe when they probably shouldn't have so fast.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I think Afro Kobe had the lead.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think Afro Kobe had the league.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, because he's battling with Shaqs on his team for that time. Are you talking about when they won the championship?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no. You're talking. No. Yeah. With Powell, he went to the finals three times, three years. That, by the way, he was so dominant, you couldn't deny him. But even in that, it's like, why wasn't he on the face of the dollar bill of league at that moment? I don't know if he was. I could be wrong.

[Andrew Schultz]

It didn't feel like I think of somebody else who had the. I agree. I agree with Charlemagne in terms of sentiment. Like, I don't think CRO. Kobe's. Kobe didn't cross over to New York. Like, everybody acknowledged him as a great player, but after his death and as we remember him and what he achieved, there's this, like, admiration, respect. It is while it was happening in the league, like, there weren't, like, there were New Yorkers, even during Jordan's heyday that hated the Bulls because they were beating our ass. But we're still like, nah, that's the nicest ever. I don't think New York embraced. New York had a lot of bandwagon, Laker fans, because they wanted to be on the winning team, and Kobe was that guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There was a. There was a thing with Kobe that was. That felt sort of disrespectful, because if you say that, if they. If you say he's the second. If he's the closest thing to Michael Jordan we've ever seen, then he should be the second greatest player of all time on everybody's list. It felt like that didn't happen until after he passed. When he was alive. It didn't feel like they was giving it up to him like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, that's.

[Chris]

That's when everybody passes. I mean, if Bob Marley was alive today, he might be playing Mohegan Son this weekend, and nobody would give a shit, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn, that's real. But what about Jordan, then? Explain Jordan, you know, like. But explain Jordan.

[Andrew Schultz]

Jordan was something we never seen before, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jordan gives all his props and then some.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, Jordan. Jordan was something. It's very rare that you get to be the king and it's acknowledged while you're in your prime. And Jordan was that guy, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's why, I guess that's why the wimby thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, can I actually, it's just too early. No, hold on, hold on, hold on. Did Jordan really get it after he came back? Nah, let me, let me clarify the argument. The first three, I remember there being crazy, like beef and like the Knicks. And obviously after he goes away, we go to the finals against the Rockets. Like something switched when he came back. One, we saw him lose, right? Because he loses the first year that he comes back. And then we saw him win three straight. And I think there was this, this like moment where, where you go, he could really do whatever he wants to do. Like the guy fucking tried to play baseball came back. We saw him get humbled and then goes and runs three and hits the game winning shot in the finals to cement it. I think there was this moment of submission from all of us where we're like, that's him. I think that's fucking him right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think he was face of the league by his third year. Yeah, I think he was king. When he beat Magic Johnson in his first finals. He was God. After winning after three peating the first time, when he came back, he became something that we. That like, I don't even, like, I don't even know what you call that

[Andrew Schultz]

after that, but it was that. It was, it was like, it was like seeing. It was like seeing him be humbled by trying to come back. There was that when he was wearing a 45 and like you saw him like dribbling and sometimes getting the ball.

[Chris]

Shocking.

[Andrew Schultz]

It was a little shocking, but it was the fact that you got to watch him lock in and then run three straight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what it really felt like now that you say that you win three straight. The only thing that could stop Michael Jordan was life. He had to lose his father. He had to take a step back. And then when he came back wearing the 4 5, the 45 was good. Cause it's Jordan, but it's not quite Jordan. And so when he lost, you're like, yeah, but he's going through a lot. It wasn't. He didn't lose. It didn't feel like he lost because of him. It felt because he was just trying to get back in the groove with life. Once he came back that next year. Oh my God. And then you win three more. You never lost in the NBA Finals. When people never see you lose on a big stage, it's a different level of immortality, bro. The casuals are watching. Going back to what my daughter's friend said all she knows of Wimby thus far is those two games she saw. So she.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, now you're right. The casuals are watching them when they're seeing only greatness at the highest stage of the game. I'm telling you, there's something about seeing. Seeing the greats vulnerable. There's something about seeing someone you admire go through a rough patch and then have the resilience to come back and run the same thing you just did. Because I remember even my sentiment towards Jordan on that second three being different.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was rooting for him.

[Andrew Schultz]

I would never root for the Bulls as a Knicks fan. And there was this version, like, I think I remember a series between Chicago and Indiana.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you remember that?

[Andrew Schultz]

That went to seven or something like that? Yeah. And I found, obviously I hated the Pacers, but I found myself kind of like hoping NJ avenged a nick loss to Indiana or something. Like I was starting to put my hope in this guy that I hated as a Knicks fan. You know, earlier in my life, I

[Charlamagne Tha God]

have two what ifs that I would love to see in sports. What if Michael Jordan never retires? His pops never gets killed. He never retires. Yeah. Does he run eight in a row? That would have been incredible to watch. Not only does he run eight in a row, does he come back for the shortened season of the year, the year after he retires and gets nine in a row? I don't know if he does, but could you imagine if we got to witness that? And what if Tom Brady never lost the super bowl and he's 10 and oh, in Super Bowls. Jesus Christ.

[Andrew Schultz]

So the Jordan thing is tricky, Right. Because I don't know how it affected the team, him being away. Like, were they able to get certain

[Charlamagne Tha God]

pieces, they might have breathed a little

[Chris]

life into the situation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, they made it to the Eastern Conference finals.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I know. They were good.

[Chris]

Exhausting to win every year.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And in some ways maybe that just shaking it up a little bit kind of got everybody else back engaged.

[Andrew Schultz]

And also, like, you put some respect on him, right? It's like, okay, he went away, we got far, so we're nice. He's got to respect us. But also we know that there is a difference maker when it comes to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why I don't like this conversation about Scotty now. And salute to Scotty. But I don't like the conversation that they be having about Scotty. Like, Michael Jordan couldn't ever do it without Scotty.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, I think MJ even says that, but he does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But we saw what Scotty did with a full squad, Right. Because all they did was come back and add mj. Right? I mean, hard. Yeah, they came back and add mj, but then they got Rodman. But I'm saying that year that Michael wasn't there, MJ takes that squad to the finals and probably wins, bro.

[Chris]

I mean, Scotty was almost should have been the MVP that year. He was phenomenal. Phenomenal.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I don't remember enough, but yes,

[Chris]

it all came down to he, he,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

he missed that final.

[Chris]

No, no, he sat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He sat out.

[Chris]

He wouldn't check in because they didn't run for him. They ran it for cuckoos.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And that kind of stained his legacy. But the fact is he had an MVP caliber year. He was amazing without Jordan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, Scotty was a fantastic player, bro.

[Chris]

Very good.

[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Speaking of Tom Brady, are you going to drink his nut?

[Andrew Schultz]

You're crazy, bro. Crazy. What? Can't wait. What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're not going to drink Brady's nut? Tom Brady just dropped his own coconut water brand called good nuts. Damn. Why everybody getting so quiet? Because y' all know y' all gonna drink Brady's nut when Brady sent a case up here. You gonna drink Brady's nut, bro. Just admit it. I will. Yeah, I know you will. You're not.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're launching another celebrity seltzer brand. No, no, I'm launching a brand new coconut water. It's actually really good.

[Taylor]

Oh, what's it called?

[Andrew Schultz]

Um, so we called coconut farmers in Vietnam for this one, which when you care about ingredients, it's kind of a huge deal. Not who you called.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's it called?

[Andrew Schultz]

You called me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, just tell me what it's called.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tom, when you have a product this good, it doesn't matter what it's called. Okay, yeah, it kind of does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good, good. I know. Diddy's so mad he in jail right now. Like Diddy could like. Yo, I know Diddy was going to come up with a concoction with, with some sorak and that good nut, man. Like, can you imagine?

[Andrew Schultz]

I think Diddy wants it from the tap. Don't even.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even want mine in the can. Take me to the distillery. Take me to the country. I want to take that in the tap. Okay. Man, how can we grow up when, like, this is happening?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just think about all of the dirty humor, all the cringy humor. Now people are making money off shit like this. Yeah. This is a great marketing campaign. You know how many drinks have probably launched in the last year? Do you remember any of them? Nope. But, you know, Tom Brady got a drink called Good Good right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, Alex.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, I don't. I don't drink coconut water, so I probably will try.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, that's why you're not hydrated. That's why your skin don't glow the way it should. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying coconut water is good for you.

[Andrew Schultz]

I didn't even say it wasn't good. He just said, I don't drink coconut water. And he was like, you ugly, yo. You ugly for that. That's why you look like you look.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just saying, man, shout out to Brady for having some nice, nice, cold, good nut for people to drink.

[Andrew Schultz]

Coconut water never gets.

[Taylor]

Not good, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I like coconut water. I just don't think it gets cold enough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All jokes aside, though, when you talk about the tap, drinking it from the coconut is great.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but, like, coconut.

[Taylor]

Yeah, from the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, when you drink it from the actual.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, from what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Coconut? That is good, Joe.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You prefer to.

[Andrew Schultz]

To actually drink the nut?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like it organic.

[Andrew Schultz]

You want it right from the top. You want the liquid from the nut.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

From the nut. Give it to me right in my hand.

[Andrew Schultz]

I swallow it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

You swish it around your mouth a little bit or.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, you got to just disable the flavor just a little bit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, you like the flavor of it? Yeah, I hear you, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Speaking of that, you think people suck dick for the taste?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[Taylor]

What?

[Andrew Schultz]

The vein on the bottom of my dick is like a scratch and sniff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, you're not really getting all the flavor unless you like, you know, having

[Charlamagne Tha God]

to scratch and sniff. Shaft is crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. You gotta rub it a little bit, and then the flavor comes out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's a lot of flavor down there. That's why the vein is on the bottom so you can get all the flavor. I'm being serious. Tastes like athlete's foot. You haven't, like, scratch your balls and smell your finger and be like, yo,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

what are These women doing.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is wrong with these women?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even do that no more. You know, it's so crazy. Why do we do that?

[Andrew Schultz]

Why does your ball smell? They got no hair on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I still. It's a different odor though.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it's actually a good. But I wash. Why don't you like, wash? Like, why don't you like, wash, wash.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I live in New York. It's humidity, it's a lot of. I go, you know what? You're walking around, there are girls that are meeting guys at the club, dancing all night.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maniacs.

[Andrew Schultz]

90 degrees, ball sweating, sucking it down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maniacs, Maniacs.

[Andrew Schultz]

These women are crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maniacs.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, we got to do that thing where like now that we're married, we make sure that no guys get head again.

[Chris]

Again.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, yo, yo, these, yo. Women, women are insane.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think guys, I think guys are insane. Because think about it like this, man. Especially in, in the entertainment business, right? People will be at work all day, like literally early in the morning to like 5, 6 o'.

[Taylor]

Clock.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a industry party that might start from work. You're going right to that shit, taking a little whole bath somewhere. Then you might end up with your legs spread around 10:30, 11. You ain't been home all day. Nasty.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, you're hitting it from the back. You see some like corporate toilet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh my God.

[Andrew Schultz]

Little single ply. You judging her job, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Where do you work? Where do you work? They got single berries. I'm trying to pick these things off is disintegrating in my fingertips. What's your job?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then you start thinking about it like, yo, you ain't been home all day.

[Andrew Schultz]

You haven't been home all day because I know you don't have this toilet paper, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you could tell where a girl live back in the day. You could tell where a girl lived around 10:30, 11, because she was at work all day, went to the little industry party, came back with you. It's like 10:30, 11, took off them leggings. You like. Woo. You must live in Queens.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you live far from your job. Oh, you can go home in between work and the function. Yeah, I see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you live in Brooklyn and you work in Manhattan, better the fragrance. Okay. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because you go home and switch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or Long Island. Forget about it. Focus.

[Andrew Schultz]

Also now, if they don't have the thong on. If they don't have the thong on. If they got nice underwear and they went home after work, but if they got the regular panties on a Friday, you're like, oh, you haven't showered and at least 8, 18 hours. This is absurd. You can't have, like a sexy thong at work. You guys suck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why do we suck? We're just giving people proper New York City etiquette. I'm just trying to tell you, yo,

[Andrew Schultz]

all these young kids want to go out. They don't want to be thinking about that. They need to be thinking about it. They need to think about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't want to be known as stink dick. Steve.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, also know you punji pussy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pam.

[Andrew Schultz]

Pungent pussy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

Know your worth. King drinks. There's a lot of girls out there with no air conditioning. I don't think. I don't think a lot of dudes know that. Like, there's a lot of girls you're talking to at the bar, trying to buy a drink. They just want 72 degrees Fahrenheit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm trying to tell you.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you got 72 at the crib.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Just say, hey, you want to come back? Listen, there's a lot of girls that have traded a sweet dick suck for some 68 degrees fish.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely right. They have Absolutely right.

[Andrew Schultz]

In July.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think she getting naked just because she motherfucking want to have sex? No, she's trying to air out.

[Andrew Schultz]

Out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is human down there, man. Get some pasty in this. God damn it.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't know what you have. You live in a building, they got central air. Start with that at the club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hey, can I get you a drink?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say, can I get you some air conditioning?

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I get you air conditioning? Central air.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got central air.

[Andrew Schultz]

Central air. Any room in the whole apartment, it's

[Charlamagne Tha God]

going to be Central Air.

[Andrew Schultz]

68. Oh, man, that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Women don't think about that type of shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

They do when in New York once summer comes because they don't realize they don't have an ac. And then once that one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know Monday night was rough. People had to be at the game two hours early. And for those people who probably thought, I'm going to get to go home, freshen up a little bit, come back into the city if possible. They had to fucking be at the game by four or five of fucking clock. Funky funk, you know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Andrew. Andrew. Man's all sad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't come to the game smelling like the locker room.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I Mean, no, it is a disrespectful thing. But do you find that disrespectful? If you get back to the house and, like, you start hooking up with a guy, this isn't a previous life for you. Obviously, you're a mother, you know, but do you find disrespectful? You guys start hooking up, and then the guy's like, yo, let's hop in the shower. Is that disrespectful to you? Do you find that, as you know,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

it's even more disrespectful?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Why don't you hop in the shower? You can kind of play we are. When they say, yo, can you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, why don't you hop in the shower?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shower. Real quick.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why don't you hop in the shower? You did a double. You did a double today. You worked two shifts.

[Taylor]

That's never.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, I think that is actually something men should say, because, man, no, nothing level. Set the mood like that. All right. Okay. When you tell a woman that she needs to take a shower, oh, my God, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you think happens after that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, your wish is your command after that, because she's so embarrassed.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, she gonna go hard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

She. It's a. It's a. It's a roll of the dice. But if she goes and takes that shower, she's going, oh, you're gonna have

[Charlamagne Tha God]

to hear about her life for at least least the rest of the night.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Because she had it. She's been going through it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. She got it. Now she got to explain it to you. Oh, thank you for telling me. It's been rough. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

I had a. I told a girl that she has some mustache on her, and. And she started telling me about job difficulties,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

that kind of doing.

[Andrew Schultz]

The mustache.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She's trying to tell you why she can't afford a room. I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

She's trying to tell me. It's like, yo, what. What are we talking about over here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I wasn't the artist.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, yo, my. My, my.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was that book that talked about negs?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know. Oh, the game. The game game.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the game.

[Andrew Schultz]

I wasn't even doing for that reason.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know, but that's it. Whether you was being honest. But that's a nag.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know, but I wasn't doing it for that reason, man. I was like, yo, you. You were looking. You got. You got to take care of that. And she was she. She hit me with like, listen, it's been tough at work on between jobs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm trying to tell you. That's all you got to do. You tell the girl that she got to take a shower, that she need to shave or something. You're gonna hear about her life, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

But then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

But then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's on after that.

[Andrew Schultz]

It is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it's on after she washes. Oh, after you give a little raising.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shave it for.

[Andrew Schultz]

I told her I would pluck it fire. I was like, I'll plug it Fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Plucking a woman's mustache.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm here with wax it off. Listen, I. I suggested all these different. Because I thought maybe she didn't know how to do it it. So I was like, you can wax it. You can get the Nair. And she was like, stop. I know. Like, I know what I can do. Like. Like, you know, to educate me on this process. I'm going through a difficult time in my life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was like, that's two of us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you still. Did you say after she gave you your head, you say, thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you. Thank you for the good night?

[Andrew Schultz]

That.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What else we got? Taylor Gang. Taylor Gang, Gang. We running through these all memes matters.

[Taylor]

I don't know if y' all want to talk about Charles Barkley.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened with Barkley?

[Taylor]

So he made a comment towards Cardi B, saying those aren't Cardi Bs as Cardi Ds. And he was saying that he wants to.

[Chris]

Incredible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me hear what Barkley said. He's been competing with Cardi B here.

[Charles Barkley]

We lost. Hey, I don't know if those baby

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ds that might be Carter Ds.

[Andrew Schultz]

Funny,

[Taylor]

funny.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why is that bad? I'm pretty sure those on Be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, Charles, the level of his life where he's, like, working.

[Andrew Schultz]

If you wearing a. If you wear an outfit where, like, a lot of your boob is out and projected, it shouldn't be considered, like, disrespectful to comments on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not a group chat. I mean, I had a couple of group chats that was commenting on it.

[Andrew Schultz]

What were they saying? What was the best one?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was. I don't know. I saw one was like, cardi's titties. The titty. And I'm like, bro, relax, bro. Cardi's family. And then the next post was like, she ain't my family. Like, that's how I went. It was like. It was like, cardi titty's a titty. And I was like, yo, bro, chill. Yo, Cardi, family.

[Andrew Schultz]

Family. I said that I thought, he ain't my family.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was like, God damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

Said that once to a girl I was dating girls. She had a twin sister. And I was like, yo, have you guys ever. You guys ever like done something with. With a dude? And she was like, with my sister. I was like, yeah. And she's like, that's incest, right? And I said for y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All. Well, I mean, that's. It's interesting though. I mean, if you twins probably always told to share everything growing up.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

They're basically the same person. I don't even know if we consider that incest. It's bas. It's just like jerking off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Charles said he got fired. What do you say?

[Taylor]

Okay. So he said he wouldn't care if they got fired or something like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can't fire some if she's got him out. If she's got him out, you can't fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me hear it. Yeah, I mean, it's good analysis.

[Charles Barkley]

It looked like bees to me. Then, like these to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Does anybody say anything to you? When's. When's the last time management or somebody said Chuck. Can't say that,

[Charles Barkley]

Dan. You know, I'm hoping they fire me. You know, I got six years. I got six or seven years left on my contract that they know I got no chance of doing. I would love for them to fire me and have to pay me for the next six or seven years. You know, I was talking to my agent. I was like, what can I do to get fired? They have to pay me for the whole six, seven years.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, this and freedom. Freedom, bro.

[Charles Barkley]

Yeah, I would love to get fired. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. Because like I say, there's no. There's zero chance I'm gonna be Cardi

[Charlamagne Tha God]

B Cardi Ds the next six, seven years.

[Charles Barkley]

Zero. So I know if they fired me, they would have to pay me all those years. And I heard through the grapevine that I make great money. So thank goodness for that. But yeah, come on, man. People can't take a joke. They can kiss my ass. I'll be working.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I respect it.

[Andrew Schultz]

How amazing is it to hear someone truly not give a fuck, Bro, listen

[Charlamagne Tha God]

to say it out loud. But also, that's his part time job. He does that shit once a fucking

[Andrew Schultz]

year for it's gambling money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Like that's his part time job, but

[Andrew Schultz]

it's just beautiful to like. It's just beautiful to see some of that position. So many people are, like dying to be on inside the NBA and have that be their job and be the next commenter. And they want to make sure they, you know, have the funniest joke or whatever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's also smart just for Charles to have a guaranteed contract.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I mean, you know what I'm saying, When. When you. When you're willing to not do it, you can require things like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That. And also when you're somebody like Charles Barkley, who knows, when you say certain things, they gonna cause a firestorm.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, yo, why wouldn't you have a guaranteed contract?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, come on, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shout out to Charles Barkley. I don't, you know, I mean, it's like he's. Yeah, he's. The only thing that problem with it is that Cardi's so young.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait, what?

[Taylor]

She's in here thing. She is. She's just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but Charles is. Don't do this because y', all, y'. All, Charles is almost 70 years old.

[Andrew Schultz]

What's your over 30 years? Since once you're over 30, you're sad. There's no. No, no, no, no, we're not gonna do that. A hundred year old guy with a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, I don't have a problem with it. I'm just telling you what I can see why people would probably say it's like, oh, you're nasty old man.

[Andrew Schultz]

But she's over 30. She's not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get it. But to them, he's old and she's young.

[Taylor]

People are looking like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, if once you're over 30 is the same age.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it's not, is it? No, it's not.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, hold on, hold on, hold on now. Hold on. Once you're over 30.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So when you see Bill Belichick with his little young thing, is she not over 30? How old is she?

[Andrew Schultz]

24 or something like that. Really? Once you're over 30, I don't even

[Charlamagne Tha God]

look at Bill like he crazy. I look at her like she's crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Say again?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even look at Bill like he crazy. I look at her like she crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who looks at Bill like he's crazy? Only women do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to talk to you, man. You. Something's up with you today. What's up with this guy?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, yo, what's up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, you got the Sprewell jersey on. Go choke your wife. Oh, my God. Before the game tonight, he choked his coach.

[Andrew Schultz]

He choked his. Choke somebody Put some mustard on it. Put some mustard on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What else we got, Taylor?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, first of all, we never talk about PJ Carlissimo, the coach that Latrell said choked out for a white guy to say mustard, not mayo, I think is pretty progressive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened? That's. That was the story.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Like, Latrell is making a pass, and he goes, yo, put some mustard on it. Like, make it, like, a strong pass. Yeah, yeah. When it broke the. Or the straw that broke the camel's back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Choked him for that.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, obviously, it was other. And that was like, the little thing, but that was the big controversy or whatever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did not know that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Anyway, I hope I got that right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's never choke again, Taylor.

[Andrew Schultz]

Damn, we are horny today, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We.

[Taylor]

Oh, I know what this was.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, who judges? Oh, no. This is hilarious. I saw this.

[Taylor]

You saw that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Out.

[Andrew Schultz]

Watch, watch, watch. He got his hand on his back, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not even the Heimlich, bro. What is a prank?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it is a prank. It is a prank, but the prank is on the patrons, so they're just watching this dude. But what's mad funny is none of them get up to be like, n, let me save them him. You know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, you know what have been funnier is if he would have did this. But, like, he tries to do the Heimlich, it's not working. So he starts thrusting, but then he just starts unbuckling the guy's gun.

[Andrew Schultz]

Take your shirt off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? That would have been even funnier, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

N, that is hilarious. Got his ass with the spark.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What show is this? USA Digest. What the is this, man?

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a great prank. Fantastic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's pay some bills, man. What we got?

[Andrew Schultz]

Bravo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's pay some bills.

[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, man. Tell you right now I'm going out to LA next week to start filming this movie. Hey, so very excited about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you gonna start doing main roles, bro?

[Taylor]

You're so annoying. I knew you was gonna do it. I knew he was gonna do it.

[Andrew Schultz]

She said it to me. Right? I remember that shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what's up, yo.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then so we added up some shows while I'm out there, man. And thank you guys so much for selling them all out. Yeah, so we'll be in Pasadena, California on the 19th, and I think the 20th, and then we're gonna be in Ontario, California, and then we'll be in Brea. But yeah, I think you guys sold them all out, man. So thank you guys so much for that. You can go check my website, theandrasolce.com and they'll put like wait lists on there and stuff like that if there's potentially more tickets. So I appreciate y' all so much for that. Also, we're gonna come to Halifax, Nova Scotia. Halifax. Pull up. That's gonna be wild. That's gonna be August 8th, by the way.

[Taylor]

I was saying that as in. Because I know you say you don't like the whole, like, waiting when it comes to the certain. Like, when you have to wait for your role to come on. I was saying, like, is it just for fun or you went, like, to become.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why you have to clean this up, Taylor. You don't just.

[Taylor]

What? Because you're making fun of it, and I was trying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't. On somebody.

[Taylor]

I wasn't trying to. On him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're the type of person to shoot somebody and try to take him to

[Andrew Schultz]

the high school for all the opportunities.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

All the opportunities that God gives me. I'm grateful.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Taylor]

I'm saying, is that a goal to, like. Why is this not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Here you go.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm the lead character in taking care of both of my children. Children.

[Taylor]

There you go.

[Andrew Schultz]

Actually, I'm a co star in that one, too.

[Taylor]

Exactly.

[Andrew Schultz]

My wife. She's the lead, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You. You the star.

[Taylor]

No, you're not.

[Andrew Schultz]

She's the lead.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, well, you directed, you wrote it. You know what I'm saying? I financed, you produced it. You know what I'm thinking? I'm just. It's the truth.

[Taylor]

No, it is true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You cast her.

[Andrew Schultz]

I ca. You try to cast me, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You cast Ambassador. My church announcement, shout out to little John. Little John's book, I only shop so you can hear me, comes out October 20, 2023.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's going to be so cool, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're on a roll with these books. You got a lot of good stories.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, there was an article that came out that said I got five New York Times bestsellers in the row, but who's counting? Little John will be out October 10th. And also, you know, Arsenio hall, still available right now, his memoir. And yeah, check out the Breakfast Club on Netflix, man. Make sure you salute to everybody. Being live on Netflix is so fun, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh. Oh. Like, I felt an actual difference.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it did.

[Andrew Schultz]

The live now pops up. I get notifications.

[Taylor]

Oh, dope.

[Charles Barkley]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay. Okay. But it's just. It's just fun. Like, it's like. Like this morning, right? Like, Cheryl Underwood is doing the View.

[Andrew Schultz]

Cheryl's great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So Cheryl came to the show. She told me she was with y' all yesterday.

[Andrew Schultz]

She came. She did a flagrance.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So she came to the show, and we were recording an interview, but as we're recording the interview, we had to go live. So she was just still there. So I'M just like, yo, just turn. Just go live. So we just live there with Cher. It's just because all of those things that happen on a regular basis. Like. Like, basis. Like the regular things that happen behind the scenes on the show. Yeah, people get to see that.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause we're live for three hours straight. Like, we're not. There's no breaks. Like, oh, wow. So even when we're not on air, we're still in the studio talking.

[Andrew Schultz]

What if you use the bathroom? Like, obviously they'll stay there with Lauren and Envy and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They not coming with me to the bathroom. I mean, I could have taken there if I wanted to, but that'd be kind of weird.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let them. Why is that weird?

[Taylor]

Why would they bring him to the. Actually, it might. It might not be because you know how.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop, Taylor. Just stop. Just stop.

[Andrew Schultz]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop.

[Andrew Schultz]

They want to see you wipe that bus.

[Taylor]

No, but he takes all his clothes off.

[Andrew Schultz]

What? You don't remember this? Remember he said he takes his. He gets fully undressed to Do I

[Charlamagne Tha God]

want to know where Taylor thinks I'm at in my life. Life that I need to get butt naked?

[Taylor]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying no, it'll be funny if, like, you gotta go and there, the camera's in there and you just see clothes coming out of the stall.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, that wouldn't be funny. That'd be cheap. And, like, who the fuck do you think I am? Like, what the. What have I not accomplished in my life that Taylor would think I have to do some shit like that?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know if you want to

[Taylor]

just be for fun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't. I don't think I would ever have to hold myself out like that. You know what I mean? I would hold. If I'm doing. Like, that has gotten really.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's gotten rough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just got. Has got really, really, really rough. What else we got? Taylor,

[Taylor]

do you always want to go back through these? Because there's another one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, shout out to George, man. Shout out George. Today I gotta shout out George, George, your boy, George Wynn. Oh, Randy, AKA grand, with a chat. AKA academics, tv, AKA Drake's intern. He's over that page as well. It was funny, man. One of the funniest things I saw from last week, they had a video. And the video said, wait, did you guys mend things?

[Andrew Schultz]

Are you guys friends now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know him. I don't care. But the funniest thing was I saw this video and it said, charlamagne panics. As DJ Academic. Did you see that one, Taylor? Yeah, you got that pull at him. That was hilarious. Serious.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let me see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was funny. I'm not going for it. That was funny.

[Andrew Schultz]

You panic. In what way?

[Taylor]

They like did a close up when they always talking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just sitting there watching the video. When they zoom in, people, they're like, I've never seen Charlemagne sit straight up in his seat before. Like, what the. Let's play this, Taylor. Come on, Taylor gang. Come on, Taylor gang. Let's get it. Let's get a worldwide net something, man. I like making things happen in the worldwide.

[Taylor]

You only have like the still version,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

but like they only got the still version.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, it's a video.

[Taylor]

I know, but when I was searching it because I didn't save it, it

[Charlamagne Tha God]

says Charlamagne gets visibly nervous when referred to as DJ Khaled by academics. Look, look, look, look, look.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let me see, let me see the messenger.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You either with me, against me.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, DJ Khaled's around my book. Get the fuck away. Oh, what you you did did Take a deep swallow right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't swallow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Go right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't be the messenger. You either with me against me.

[Andrew Schultz]

You might be shook.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm going tell you what was funny about.

[Andrew Schultz]

Look at that gulp right there, bro. You got to work on your gulp when you're nervous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got to work on my gulp when I'm nervous.

[Andrew Schultz]

You got to find a way to mask your gulp when you're nervous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got to work on my gulp when I'm nervous.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tell me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna tell you what's funny though. Yeah, hold on one second. Hold on.

[Andrew Schultz]

What you got?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I gotta work on my goat when I'm nervous.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hold on. What you got?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, man, I'm just saying I saw some panicking last week.

[Andrew Schultz]

Uh oh. Uh oh. Tell me now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw some panicking.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tell me now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, can you ask whoever edited the episode not to dox my pics? Charla mentioning Crypto, not trying to get my home invaded. Oh shit. Oh shit. Hold on, hold on.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who's panicking?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw some. Hold on, hold on. Said I'm cooperating and that I stole 4 million from Act. Was a three hour call from Charla and Act was like he was mad because he no longer controls narratives and ACT clips all over the timeline. Then said he's a part of Charla working with them. And it's Roc Nation trying to harass with lawsuits because no way any of these lawsuits and investigations real haven't spoken to Anyone? ACT said it's Sharla.

[Andrew Schultz]

Where you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where you. How you throw your man under the bus?

[Andrew Schultz]

Where you getting this information?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, yo, George Wynn. How you throw your man under the bus? Oh, AT called me right away after telling me he's capable. And then a day later, Jeremy Heck comes out with the same info that Charla has, saying ACT funded by Republicans and Drake is Trump funded. And he's also doxxing me. So ACT tells me, take the gloves off.

[Andrew Schultz]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the fuck, George?

[Andrew Schultz]

That's George texting that George Nguyen. How'd you get. It's a challenge. Hold on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why doesn't George want his picture out? Hold on. No, but why doesn't George Wynn want his picture out? How can George get on academics tv? How can George get on the Internet and have all of these people say the most salacious, wild shit about folks? But he doesn't want his picks out. He thinks people are doxing him. Are you serious? And why. Why is he so afraid of crypto?

[Andrew Schultz]

What's wrong? Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I feel like he says Charlotte mentioning crypto. Not trying to get my home invaded. Why would your home get invaded? Did George win in Australia? Why would your home get. I just don't understand why his home would get invaded. Shows. I'm just trying to figure this out, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can we all get along?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just trying.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why can't we all get along?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just trying to figure this out.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why can't we all get along?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't have any issues, okay? I just think it's funny that. Okay. I just think it's funny that people get sent things about folks, you know? You know, getting guys money via crypto,

[Andrew Schultz]

guys on the Internet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it could be violating illegal gambling laws. Listen, this is what I was told. I was told that there could be illegal gambling laws. It could be money laundering statutes, it could be wire fraud, it could be conspiracy charges, it could be potential campaign or advertising disclosure violations. This is what I'm hearing. So when I see somebody say they don't want their picture out there. Yeah. And they're afraid of being attached to crypto saying things like their own being invaded. That sounds like some panicking to me, buddy. Yo, that's all I'm saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know the Wire? You guys ever watch the. I'm wearing one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm fucking wearing one. I'm wearing one right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Remember the dude who got. Who got out of prison, right? And now he's free again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

The original dude that was selling and Then Marlo came in and took over some of the corners.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

And the original dude, the way that. The dude that Stringer was working for, and then he got locked up and then he came back. Do you remember that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can I tell you something? And don't judge me.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've never seen the Wire.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right. I'm not judging. My point is, he came back and Stringer was like, yo. And I think Stringer was basically on some, like, yo, let's go legit. Like, we could find ways around it. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And he was like, I want my corners.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it's not.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's. You love this shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was minding my fucking business.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, but that's the thing. I don't think people realize, like, I

[Charlamagne Tha God]

was minding my business.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't think people realize. This is your love language.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is. This is your favorite thing. Chaos is your favorite.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was minding my business.

[Taylor]

Read what I sent you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That guy. Hold on. No, I was minding my business. I called ACT to give him a heads up to what was coming. And for whatever reason, his man George decided to go at me and start flipping on me and then told on act. Quick. Act. I'll send you these text messages if you need them. ACT if you want to see for yourself. If you want to see how your man said that you told him to take the gloves off. Okay. If you want to see for yourself. I just don't understand why he would be out here saying he doesn't want his picture out. Because he doesn't want to be doxed. You say the wildest shit about people. The difference between me and you is I don't give a fuck what you say about me. But you care about what I say about you, George. Why don't you want to be connected with crypto? Now I need to know more.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, now listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I talked. That article that I told y' all about last week. The. The name of the newspaper is mix it 5, 6. The age. The Age is the name of the media outlet. If you read the article, George. In the article, they literally say, we had private investigators on George. What the fuck is that guy doing in Australia that a media outlet in Australia wanted to put private investigators?

[Andrew Schultz]

Can it not be that the memes are fire?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what it is.

[Andrew Schultz]

What if it's the memes are fired?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what it is. But another thing that I told ACT and I told y' all this last week, but y' all don't pay attention to. Hold on. Let me get the exact wording right. Because I want. I like to be clear about what I tell folks. I told act the crypto accounts are flagged too. I don't know what that means, but I know your boy George is like, please don't mention me with no crypto because he don't want to get his home invaded. That's what. What he said. That sounds like some panicking to me, buddy. It's easy to hide behind memes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can we all get along behind? Can we all. Can we all break some bread and have some fun?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor, do you have the audio of when the investigators visited George when academics and them was on screen? Do you have that in Aiden Ross? Somehow academics like the lawyers are at his crib. They're saying hold on. On the lawyers hold a up.

[Andrew Schultz]

I run Grand Wizard Chat. I'm a big meme page.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that blurry?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't have time to run these other. Other pages. What do you not understand here? Have you never heard of a social media blurry?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the. Skip to 1 hour, 9 minutes.

[Taylor]

What about the other chat Chat bros who. Who work with you and have worked with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait, what?

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm friends with Aiden Ross and Drake. I hire a hundred interns. Turns chat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whoa, whoa.

[Andrew Schultz]

I only go by chat.

[Taylor]

I'm not. Wait, I'm not saying that word.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So who is that?

[Taylor]

And you know that we've talked to them already, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Laura, you're Grand Wizard.

[Andrew Schultz]

Whoa, you know what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I'm beyond Grand Wizard. No, there's no wake off him.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, who is so W in the chat, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on. There's literally no way Blurry's Grand Wizard. Yo, by the way. Wait, y. Yo, ma'.

[Andrew Schultz]

Am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whoever you are, I don't train my AIs to say the word. That's not in our vernacular. How the academics. I'm so confused them to do that politically correct. Like why blurry in academic. What the hell going on? Blurry have making big moves. I see you blurry.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait, you. It seems like you don't have anything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cough, cough. Grand Wizard. Text me. He said. Aiden, they're outside my house. Three cars. Oh, God. I'mma call him. I'mma call him. Call Grand Wizard. Don't stay in Australia. They got his Addo GS. Rock Nation got to him. Don't call him. That's. No, no. Yo, if you need me to blow my gun for you, Grim Riz, I got you because you always post me. Shut up.

[Andrew Schultz]

Shut the up.

[Taylor]

Interviews, right. I know you, I know you know we've had them, right? Because I, I, I. In fact I'm certain you know that bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look at bro. I ain't gonna lie. This is getting bad. Look, look, I'm about to text you, bro.

[Taylor]

Give me the.

[Andrew Schultz]

Give me actually going down right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look what happened. Show me. Look bro. By the way, chat. This is where they streaming. I'm not clicking on no crusader.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's called social media management. Stop assuming things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait, are you saying you, you hire people to bot for you or that

[Taylor]

you have hire people to. You guys meet in discord and talk about these campaigns.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait, I'm being accused of this too? Listen, I gotta call Drake. So how the I get this was October 2025. Investigators went to George's house. They're on stream listening to the investigators at George's house act says that he somebody from Kendrick's team pressed him and told him they had private investigators on him. The age the outlet from Australia in the article said they had private investigators on George. How the fuck, how the fuck I get into this? This was October of last year. How do I all of a sudden? How is it me?

[Andrew Schultz]

Charlamagne, obviously you're the architect of all this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

Obviously Roc Nation and Kendrick's team work for you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like obviously you're the guy in charge of all this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely right. You know, with you're absolutely right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Great power comes great responsibility.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Great responsibility.

[Andrew Schultz]

We can't possibly put that responsibility on those individuals that you said they're not powerful enough. How many number one bestsellers does Jay Z have on his book?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A lot. All I know is the laws in Australia are different.

[Andrew Schultz]

You got a book label?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, he does the law. Well, I don't know if you got a book in print, but the laws in Australia are different. They don't have first amendment laws. They take that crypto and that that other very serious. So I'm just telling you. Illegal gambling laws, money laundering statutes, wire fraud, conspiracy charges, potential campaign or advertising disclosing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, what did y' all do to him?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know the facts.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hey yo, I'm just saying, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But when they put the video up and they said. When they said. Charlemagne is panicking. Yeah, yeah. Who sound like they panicking more? Me or George?

[Andrew Schultz]

Whatever y' all did, just stop. It's not worth it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'mma say this. All jokes aside, it has nothing to do with me. It is above me. Charlamagne don't even care. All I'm telling y' all is just sit back and watch how this shit plays out. All I tried to do was try to warn every fucking body. Yo. And Act, I'm going to tell you this shit again. Watch the people around you. Because that motherfucker threw you under the bus. Act said he ain't got nothing to do with this. Act said that this is all his. ACT told me that. Act said they think that you are trying to expose him with Roc Nation. So that's why he's getting at you

[Andrew Schultz]

in that way that you're connected to Roc Nation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. So act is. Act said. This is what he told me. That that's why that guy is doing that. Act saying, act like he don't have nothing to do with what Grant was.

[Andrew Schultz]

What benefit do you get out of that? None.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my whole point.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you make money off of Roc Nation or anything like that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Doing what?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, you tell me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't make money off. Nobody can pay me to do anything. Nobody.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's not true. Who I could pay you. Not. Not me, but somebody pays. You do the radio in the morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's Rick. That's my job. That's my career. You can't pay me for my opinion.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, I see. I see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't pay me to like something I don't like. You can't pay me to endorse something I'm not. I'm not feeling.

[Andrew Schultz]

I hear what you're saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, that's not like. No, not no Democrats. Not no nobody. If I'm doing something with somebody, it's because. Because we work together. I believe in what that individual is doing. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Yeah, but why y' all don't want Joe. Why y' all don't want to ask questions about George Wynn, man? Grand with a chat, AKA Academics, tv. Why does he not want his picture out there, bro?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, like, why does he not want to be. He's like, why did. Why did he say, Charlotte's talking some crypto. I don't want my house invaded? Y' all don't think that's strange?

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I be honest?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why did he throw act under the bus so quick?

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I be honest with you? I don't want to lose that page, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't see how y' all can trust somebody like that. But I'm not even lying to you like that. Some rel. I saw act say that shit. Divide and conquer. I don't. Divide and conquer. What? I'm just thinking. I'm giving you the heads up. On something. But now after what I done seen the past couple of weeks, I know I was right and giving you the heads up on something. Look how fast he threw act under the bus, bro. And then did it in text. His name George grand whisper like, what the fuck? You did this in text? You said I told you to take the gloves off in text messages. What are you saying, bro? I thought that's your guy. I got his back, but he don't got act back. And you think that man didn't fold the investigators?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, so there is an investigation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, I told y' all what I told y'. All. Shout out to Carson McCoy, aka Chad. He's from North Carolina. Black guy. All right? You want to see his picture? What you want, man? What you want, bro? Alex Ocha. I go. By the way, those guys, all jokes aside, small fries. But what always happens. Yeah, the small fries get got first. Because sometimes people give up the small fries in order to save themselves. What else we got, Taylor? What else we got, Taylor Stale.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can't the Internet get along?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor the sailor.

[Andrew Schultz]

Listen, this is a bad guy. I am not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I am the nicest guy. Let me tell you bother. No, no, no, no.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let me tell you this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll be out here just trying to bring folks together. I don't bother know there's a reason why.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's a reason why he's trying to cure mental illness. What if he got stick don't let his mental illness be used for bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is what people don't realize or

[Andrew Schultz]

good or whatever that is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I go to therapy to care.

[Andrew Schultz]

You need to learn how to feel empathy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Try to.

[Andrew Schultz]

You need to learn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I don't. I don't like when is burning around me and I'm. This is warm. You know what I mean? I don't want to. I don't want to live where chaos feels comfortable with me.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's I've all. As long as I've known you, chaos is your comfort zone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I.

[Andrew Schultz]

When is too normal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I. I'll be hanging out with you

[Andrew Schultz]

sometimes and is too normal. And you'll just say something inappropriate. We could be having a lovely look. Everybody getting along, everybody's wise, they're happy, great conversation. And he'll just look at the white person on the table. He'll be like, yo, say the N word. Or he says, yeah, that's how he said. And then he don't even know the white guy. He's like, well, what are you talking about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

I've never said anything like this and everybody else starts to feel uncomfortable and all of a sudden he'll just fall back in his seat. He's not even part of the conversation anymore. There's a little warmth or what you

[Taylor]

do is when you're not ready to, like, really talk about something, you just, like, try to find something on other people and just pick on them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's fun.

[Taylor]

It's nice.

[Andrew Schultz]

We all. We all might be guilty.

[Taylor]

I was coming to the studio and I know you want to say something else, but you just trying to distract, I guess, your mind or something. I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

We need a big dinner where we have a nice dinner and everybody gets along and we just bring the Internet back together. Let's have a lovely, happy place, man. Why we have a lovely happy place

[Charlamagne Tha God]

to clean the Internet up.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, I do agree with that. The Internet needs to be cleaner.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Internet up. It is too much bullshit. Too much paid. What they say, Smear campaigns. Too much paid campaigns.

[Andrew Schultz]

51% of the. What was the statistic?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got it right here, buddy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wild.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on. I got it right here. Hold on. That other shit you sent me was fascinating, too.

[Andrew Schultz]

Which one?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Bots have now passed human traffic online. So this Cloudflare boss laymance says Agent. Agent Tick traffic wasn't expected to eclipse real people.

[Andrew Schultz]

Agent tick traffic. Which means they're not actually real. Yes, these are bots, and they're not bots. They're bots interacting with other bots. So this is dead Internet theory that eventually the entire Internet will be consumed with bots interacting with each other, and that normal people won't even be really interacting on the Internet. And right now it's basically saying, what,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

51% of it is that 57.5 versus 42.5% bot automated versus human HTTP request. And that's according to Cloudflare data. Y' all online arguing with bots. Yo, I was thinking about that today when you sent me that article about. Well, not an article, it was the real. About the dude. What's the guy's name? The guy that owns all the. The Clippers.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hold on, look at my text.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's a guy who owns the Clippers. Or it's a big clipping farm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Eddie. Eddie Cumberbatch.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hold on, let me look.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Eddie Cumberbatch. I mean, we can. We can insert the video. It's fascinating. But basically he bought like a bunch of clippers, so he. He has all the clippers.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm going to just say it. The truth is, no one Just goes viral anymore. Everybody's doing mass, mass clipping. Like, all the streamers and everything. They pay clippers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have y' all been noticing, like, less clips? You know what happened?

[Andrew Schultz]

All the clippers, they sold out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You work for Eddie. And I said to Eddie, I said, listen, let's steal the Clippers from Twitch. He's like, hey, just give me a budget. Give me a number. I want all the clippers. Anyone who's clipping for all, everyone, tell them, will pay him double.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hi. Yep, that's me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm Eddie.

[Andrew Schultz]

Over the last few months, I've been stealing, stealing all of the clippers. I run one of the biggest clipping agencies in the world, propaganda media, and we have over a hundred thousand clippers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In the last few weeks alone, we've

[Andrew Schultz]

generated over 300 million views for our clients.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Literally everyone and their grandmother is starting to pay Clippers, which means being a clipper is one of the greatest ways

[Andrew Schultz]

to make money online right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I was thinking about this the other day, right? I was like, what's better when you have a interview or conversation that goes virally, organically, are one that is fueled by clippers?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, you want to know the sad thing is that oftentimes they are indistinguishable. So what I mean by that is, like, you could. What's called. There's. There's a grassroots movement, right? That's a real movement. We saw that happen with, like, different types of music. We've seen that happen with different types of political strategy. We've seen that happen with, like, different. Like even. It could be even like a restaurant that gets popular. That's a grassroots movement. There's an organic trend. Then there's a thing called an astroturfed movement. So in the same way that grass is real and astroturf is fake grass, you can use certain things to create a fake, fakely supported trend. But once people see a trend, they start following it and it becomes real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

True, true, true.

[Andrew Schultz]

So that exists in all these same genres that we just spoke about. So the astroturf trend is the trickiest thing. And if you know that you can get things to become trends by putting a little gas on it. Right, of course. That's an incredibly powerful utility to have at your disposal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like, I agree with that. I think that. I think that the Clippers are great for awareness. I don't know how great they are for emotional engagement. Because, you know, if you've been looking at what these social media platforms. Eddie Cumberbatch, I think that was the

[Andrew Schultz]

podcast that the clip came from.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Where he's talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, I thought that was the guy. I thought the guy's name was.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know if that's him, but I have the clip here. I'll send it to you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the social media guys, I mean, social media, all of these tech techno lords, they monetize your emotions. And the greatest currency in cloud capital is conflict. Right? But I just say emotion in general. So emotional engagement is different than just awareness. Like, you can see something a hundred times and be aware of it. But boy, like, like, like, if you see Kevin Hart clip, and Kevin Hart is defending why he had Tony at the roast, blah, blah, blah, you got to say something about that shit. You know what I'm saying? You want to engage with it.

[Andrew Schultz]

I have Ethereum.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, talk to me.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know if I spoke about this on the pod, but, like, I think what's happened right now is that the Internet and, like, there's elective content and unelective content. Okay? And elective content is a movie. It is a TV show that you watch on Netflix or Hulu. It is, it could be even like a longer YouTube video that you decide to watch. You click on. And I'm electing to have this experience. And then there's unelective content, which is you just open up Instagram, whatever account pops up onto your phone. Tick tock. You don't even follow these. You are completely not electing to watch it and consume it, but it pops up. And our desire for these two things are completely different. Elective content. Going to see a movie is escapism. You don't want politics, you don't want a drama, you don't want the world is burning. You want to escape. You want to watch a horror movie, you want to watch a comedy, and you don't want them to be, like, filled with, like, all the nonsense, you know, things that cause you this anxiety all day long. And that's why the movies that tend to harp on those themes, like all the political stuff and all that kind of, they actually kind of bomb. And the ones that are like pure escapism are crushing. Unelective content. You are not choosing to watch it. It's thrown in front of your face. It's not an escape. I'm not going to Instagram to escape for 5, 10 seconds. It actually are the things that, that are causing you the anxiety and the existential crisis that you're dealing with every single day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that content. Yeah, Actually, it's like a car crash. You don't want to see a car crash. That's not something you elect. You don't go, look up, hey, can I see somebody die in a car accident? But if it pops up in front of you, you can't look away. So those pieces of content tend to work better on unelected platforms. And the problem is now people are curating around what works online, they're curating around the algorithm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Them.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're not doing the they want to do, they're doing the that works. So now they're leaning into the misery, anxiety and discomfort, because that works on the unelected platforms. So I think we. Anyway, there's just this interesting dichotomy when it comes to content, which is like, what we consume the most of, we actually don't want. It makes us feel anxiety and misery. We don't actually.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what social media is all about. Like, literally, I'm telling you, they're monetizing our emotions. And the greatest currency in the cloud capital is compromised conflict.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I keep telling y', all, read this

[Andrew Schultz]

book, Worst of our emotions.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The worst of our emotions. I keep telling y', all read this book. Techno feudalism. What killed capitalism. That's literally what that book is about. Yeah, all of these social media platforms are mining our emotions and monetizing our emotions.

[Andrew Schultz]

But what is interesting is that when you look at, like, what's working in film and tv, it's the opposite of that, sort of in my.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why we love our quarters, our levels raised, but we do, but, but that's why horror is the biggest, John.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, but our cortisol level is raised not around things that we feel existential doom towards every single day. They're raised around an escapist hypothetical that actually couldn't affect our everyday lives.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get what you're saying, you know what I mean? Like, like when you watch Obsession and you see the kid make a wish. We dealt with crazy girlfriends before, but, you know, that's some fictional shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

And it's not even like a real problem that you're dealing with your life. You're like, I, you know what? I'm going to forget my real problem and I'm going to escape into this world when that shit comes up on our phone. It's our real problems. It's something about the war, it's something about the economy, it's something about racism, it's something about sexism, it's something about controversy. Like you said, conflict.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know Israel is bombing Iran right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is it, did it, did it start happening?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It happened since last weekend.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no, I meant the US because the US said that they were going to respond because.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I don't know if the US responded, but Israel started bombing Iran. But my point is, is nobody's even talking about that.

[Andrew Schultz]

But that will come up on this feed. The last thing you want to do is watch a movie about how Israel's mom in Iran, when you're trying to relax in it. You know what I mean? But when you're, when you're at your work, you're going scrolling, that's going to pop up on your phone, you're going to have this visceral reaction. So what I think, I don't want to get too far away, but what I think is kind of interesting is that like there are people who are creating within the unelected platform and I think they, they might have a lot of views, but you can't transfer those views to the streaming or movie platforms because that's not what people want over there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. It's no emotional engagement. See, the reason Curry Barker was able to get all these people to go see Obsession, because he created an emotional attachment, emotional engagement with his content and it was an escape. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And those YouTube things that he did so well converted beautifully because he was making little stories, he was making little movies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah. People come to your stand up shows because they've watched enough of your clips online. Yeah. But they got an emotional attachment to shows. Like I gotta go see this guy show.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Same thing with Rearings or any type of content that is real that people can actually see. They know we're real people. By the way, there's nothing that's gonna be real now like, like we are in the real era. People want live engagement again, y'. All. People want to be out at concerts, people want to go to sporting events. People want to watch the Breakfast Club live. Like, they want to watch Give me

[Andrew Schultz]

something that's real, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They want to watch Roast if they got to know this shit is happening now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because all the biggest moments in culture that have happened have all been live.

[Andrew Schultz]

What I would say is every single one. There are certain exceptions. I would say, like Drewski's sketches have had massive success. They're not live. But like there are, but, but, but it's pure escapism.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. But guess what?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nothing is going to beat Drew at the BET Awards.

[Andrew Schultz]

Live.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Live.

[Andrew Schultz]

There you go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got to see it.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's a great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got to see it.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's a great look.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I. I'm. I'm emotionally attached to his content.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I give you a pitch?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

And now give it up for our host, White conservative Woman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you know, she got to make an appearance.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, she got to start the BET Award worths.

[Taylor]

No, that will be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who writes the material, though. That counts.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tony Hinch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Brus.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tell me. Ruski, Tell me, tell me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Know the jokes to avoid. But that's not a bad.

[Taylor]

That's not a bad idea, especially for bt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, he come now. I would. Starting the show would be crazy. At some point in the show, though, you come out as White conservative woman started.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tell me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you say this is the roast of bet. Yeah, Miss Tanya. His Cliff.

[Andrew Schultz]

If you started. Think about it. Because if you started like that, every single person, even if they're not tuned in, they're going to. They're getting a text like, yo, are you watching this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What if he's killing it? Killing it, killing it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Don't say it. Don't say it. Don't say it. I already know where you're going. This is why he's. That's like the bag.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tell me what I was gonna say.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm not gonna say. Don't believe it. Believe me.

[Taylor]

Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. In the middle of the set. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, you gotta believe that. You gotta believe it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, would that not be the illest side?

[Andrew Schultz]

If you want.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gonna do it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Show you gonna do it. It. You going. Do it, do it. Shout out to Drew. I can't wait to see bro.

[Taylor]

And he is in a new movie with Emma Stone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw that. Sh. Yo, Jusi cooking. I'm tired.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's cooking, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have people hit me up asking, yo, can we get Drewy to be in such and such film? And I'm not talking about no, you know, I'm talking about major players like, yo, Drew is out of here. Here out of here. He's a perfect example of doing it yourself.

[Andrew Schultz]

Here's. Here's the thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's a perfect example of doing it yourself. Betting on. Betting on yourself, but having real organic.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? So that's why I'm going back to my original question. What's better Having the clippers post yourself everywhere, Raise awareness, which I think is great. Are having, like, a real emotional. No connection to the pieces.

[Andrew Schultz]

The best is obviously, if everything you do is organic, what I would say is that, like, you have to give credit to the, to. To not only the Clippers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schultz]

But also like the people who have institutionalized clipping. That's a genius. That's absolutely a genius move. You make something inescapable on the Internet and then we all start going, oh, I guess this is the thing that is. That is next level. Like CIA. How the hell did did people on the Internet think of that before the CIA? You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, that is now we know the CIA, not behind it now.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, if they were smart, they would be calling all the guys like, yo, tell me how you guys are so effective.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The politicians are.

[Andrew Schultz]

There we go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You already know the smart ones.

[Andrew Schultz]

But wait, what was I gonna say? What were we just saying? Oh, oh, oh. What I was saying. So Drew Ski is in that movie, which is awesome. What I think people will come out to see the most is not Drew Ski in a big movie. It's Drew Ski putting out his movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's coming.

[Andrew Schultz]

So if he does like a Sasha Baron Cohen, like Borat style, but with the characters, etc, to me, that is a massive, huge success. Because they know it's from him. And people want to follow the creators. That's the Curry Barker model, like Tyson

[Taylor]

and Kevin Hart or something.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, I think they're all doing a potential movie. And as long as they did it, it's done. Oh, they're done.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

As long as they're involved in the creative. Right. As long as it's not like, okay, here's some writers, let's just make them write a movie for these guys to be in. That's not what people want to support. They want to support creatives creating things. And if you tell me if, if Drewski had a movie like Borat but with multiple characters, you saying that wouldn't be. That would be a coming.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's going to make a shitload of money funny, because that's gonna be the next thing, right? Like, horror is always a genre that's gonna do well. And you see all these independent horrors doing very well. The next wave is going to be independent comedies, because independent comedies are going to be so good because these comedians won't have to take, you know, or not even just comedians, just people who are great comedic writers won't have to take no notes from no studio. Won't have to take no notes from nobody. And they can just write some really, really funny. And we live in an era where you don't even have to have stars playing these roles. So if the stars don't Want to do this risky shit that you just wrote. All right, you just go get some people that know how to act, you know, I mean, that are willing to take the risk.

[Andrew Schultz]

And let me tell you what's going to happen. The second those are the movies that are popping, the stars will be dying to be in it because at the end of the day, they want to be in the shit that people are watching.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

100. I don't understand why the stars now aren't connecting with these new creatives, you know, and just helping them fund the flicks.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, I think, I think what we've seen is like, like the fact that the star stars are doing podcasts is like the first iteration of going, oh, something else is out there that's getting the word out on things. Okay, let's go. And when we have a movie come out, do a podcast run. A lot of stars even doing podcasts themselves so that they're realizing that the industry has changed a little bit. So I'm like, okay, that works. The next iteration, with the massive success of these movies that are put out by the YouTubers, I think you're going to see these studios throwing on two million dollar checks at a hundred different YouTubers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

That can make movies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you take the check from the studio though?

[Andrew Schultz]

Do. Would I. I'm saying, do you? If. If you're them. 100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I'm gonna see. I saw some shit today. I don't know if it's true or not, but man, when you look at the money obsession made, the. The studio's getting rich, but they took the creator. Not so. I mean he's. Don't get me wrong, he's doing very well off film.

[Andrew Schultz]

First of all, they made it for 750. I think they sold it for 15, 15, 16.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Focus Films.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. So Focus Films took the risks. Right. They're like, we're gonna buy this YouTuber's movie. Yeah. There's really not that much proof that it's going to succeed movies. And not to like cap for the studios, but like move in general. Like, movies aren't like a big money business. Like 99 movies fail. They take a huge risk. It works.

[Taylor]

Works.

[Andrew Schultz]

So if I'm a young guy that's a youtuber and I have a studio willing to give me $2 million and give me distribution on a project that

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm working on, a worldwide distribution. That's why he chose Focus, because it was. It said it was a bidding war between Focus824, bro, and somebody else But Focus had global.

[Andrew Schultz]

I saw that. But to me, I'm going like. Everybody's going like, oh, the star only got paid 20 grand on it. Or this only got paid 20 grand. It's like, guys, guys, guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why didn't they have no back end, though?

[Andrew Schultz]

Forget back end. Right, right. Forget backhand. When you sign that contract, you're not thinking it's going to be the biggest movie in the world. One, if you negotiate your contract based on it being the biggest movie in the world, they would just get another actor because they'd be like, guys, this is a complete gamble. That's one or two.

[Taylor]

Three,

[Andrew Schultz]

the next movie, all of them do, they're going to be paid a gazillion dollars on. So it's like, if that's your internship, you. Right. It's like all of it. You know, how long did we work for free? How long was I doing Stand up for free? How long were you doing radio for free so we could get in position to do it? And now we're. And now we're over here going like, oh, they deserve to make more money. It's like, they made one movie and now they're gonna make money. We had to work for a decade making no money before we made a penny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To your point, though, even if I'm somebody like Curry Barker and, you know, I sell the Focus Film, so, you know, I. I get some of that and then it goes to the theater. Sell 200, 300 million. If I make 30, 40 million off it, that's a win, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just saying. Well, sometimes we don't think like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Also, if the studio is smart, they do the right thing by the cast. They do maybe the right thing by the crew. They throw a couple bucks around. That's if they're smart.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're not wrong, but they should negotiate that shit beforehand. But I'm just saying, especially when you're not getting a whole lot of money, get somebody that can help you negotiate some equity. Remember?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes. That's the smart thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

Of course. But, like, remember when we were doing the MTV shows back in the day? I remember there was. I. I had all these different shows on, and then like, all of a sudden they gave me, like, a bonus. It wasn't crazy, but it was like a little way of being like, hey, we know we're really working you, and you have this contract.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't. We've been lucky, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

We've been so lucky.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We've been. I'm not even. I'M not even exaggerating when I say this. We have worked with some beautiful people that have not tried to get over on us and also understood we built something together when we were at MTV2. MTV2 was not MTV2 like we were. The initial guy code was the first original show ever on MTV2. And I can argue and win the argument that that show kept MTV2 and MTV proper alive for a long, long time.

[Andrew Schultz]

They were printing money on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see, think of all of the shows that came from Sleuth and Ryan Lynx. Salute to Paul Richie, Dan Byrne and you got it. Yo, Chris McCarthy. It's a reason Chris McCarthy stays in the positions that he in. He was president of Paramount. Now He's. Where's he at now? He's. He's got a new position now. I think it's with NBC because he's still working with Taylor Sheridan. But those guys not only understood talent, they did right by talent. They treated talent good. They didn't have to give you no bonus.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what I'm saying. There is a right thing to do. Like Taylor Swift bonusing out all of her crew and like that. Like that's a nice place. If you have a watershed moment financially, you throw a couple bucks around, you

[Charlamagne Tha God]

make white people so happy. Seriously, let's have this conversation.

[Andrew Schultz]

Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why the does Taylor Swift make white people so happy?

[Taylor]

Because she was like the. What do y' all call it? Like everyone roots for the American sweetheart.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, she was the underdog.

[Taylor]

And then also Kanye. They felt bad for her probably. I think that was the come up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think Kanye.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know if she makes white people. I guess she does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know she should not be. If. If the rumor is true, which I don't think it is, why would she be having her wedding at Madison Square Garden?

[Andrew Schultz]

She's having a wedding at Madison Square.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what the rumor is. Her and Travis Kelly. I think they put that out there just to. With people. It wouldn't make no sense.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think. I think they're getting married in New York, but I don't think it's at Madison Square Garden.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why would you get married at the Garden?

[Chris]

Sly Stone did it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He did, Famously. I don't know nothing about that.

[Andrew Schultz]

He married at the Garden now. That who he married.

[Chris]

I don't know what her name was. It didn't last. But he had a whole concert for his wedding at Madison Square Garden. 1974, I believe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn. That's when pussy was Harry. He did that for some Harry. He did that Rocky did that for some Harry.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's Fly is different than Rocky.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's Sylvester Saloon.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's his brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Huh? Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's two of them.

[Chris]

Sly Stone. Sly in the family Stone slot. I want to take you higher.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, isn't that his brother?

[Chris]

Who?

[Andrew Schultz]

Sly Stallone.

[Chris]

This is a non Italian cousin. Maybe, but it's not his brother.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know.

[Chris]

Frank Stallone is.

[Andrew Schultz]

Frank is the brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

You guys don't know who Sly Stone is? Sly in the family.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know who he is, but I didn't. I thought you. I swear I thought you talking about Rocky.

[Andrew Schultz]

I thought you were talking about Frank.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's do some asking idiots, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like a fucking idiot. Shout out to Sly Stone RIP. Ready to soundtrack your summer with Red Bull Summer All Day Play. You choose a playlist that fits your summer vibe the best. Are you a festival fanatic, a deep end D dj, a road dog or a trail mixer? Just add a song to your chosen playlist and put your summer on track. Red Bull Summer All Day Play. Red Bull gives you wings. Visit Red Bull.com BrightSummerAhead to learn more. See you this summer.

[Taylor]

What is that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh yeah, it's a World cup holder. Like the soccer tournament. World cup holder for the world. Fits every car, holds every cup. It has a Carvana logo. Carvana made it. They buy and sell cars, so they made a car cup holder.

[Andrew Schultz]

So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got any good cups lately?

[Andrew Schultz]

I used to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just couldn't figure out where in the world to put them. The World cup holder brought to you by Carvana. Proud sponsors of the World cup holder,

[Andrew Schultz]

sign up today to win [e-mail] not

[Charlamagne Tha God]

authorized or endorsed by FIFA. Not a real product for parody and fair use purposes only. Let's do some asking idiots, man. Let's do some asking idiots, man. You cool? Graham says, what is your top pick food item that you would introduce to aliens? Ooh, French fries. French fries so fire. Why are french fries so fire? I love a good french fry and you know they not really good for you but man them are so hard to resist and I don't like fast food french fries. I like french fries at a restaurant now don't you know I love me some crystal french fries. I love me some Chick Fil A french fries fries. Love me some Wendy's french fries. But boy when you're at a fast food restaurant you order some fries and they bring out them big ass steak fries. Why them shit's so good. Why are french fries so good?

[Andrew Schultz]

Or you get a little steak frite. You're right. This is interesting. It's like, what is the thing that you share with a, you know, a species from another planet? Like, you don't want to go too sophisticated, you know what I mean? Like, you don't want to do like some like crazy wild dishes. You want something easy like, yo, take a bite of that. You're gonna like it. French fries, French fries probably are the most universal. So the other thing is pizza. But I would say like pizza and fries.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've never heard nobody say they don't like french fries. That's the thing I've heard people say they don't like pizza. I've never heard somebody tell me I don't like french fries.

[Andrew Schultz]

Low key. It's pizza or french fries. Isn't that crazy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Remember when we used to take the. This is what we used to do in school. We used to take the pizza, put the french fries on the pizza. Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's crazy.

[Taylor]

You don't put in the.

[Chris]

That's carbon carb. You're not allowed to go carb on carb.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Puerto Ricans do it all day long.

[Taylor]

Exactly. Spaghetti. Spaghetti sandwiches.

[Andrew Schultz]

Spaghetti sandwiches is biased.

[Taylor]

I love them.

[Chris]

Carb on carb. Do that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Spaghetti sandwich.

[Taylor]

Eat bread with spaghetti. Andrew, you eat bread with spaghetti, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Not really.

[Taylor]

Yo, but that is a thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, yes, people dip in or whatever.

[Taylor]

I heard this justification, but no, just making it. Sandwich.

[Andrew Schultz]

No. Y' all tripping.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Carlos, do one says if the Knicks win tonight, will they lose game five to have the epic win on msg? Game six. Will y' all please go back and listen to last week's episode of Brilliant. I told y' all they were going to win the first two games. They were going to lose games three and five. Nixon six at the Garden. Yo.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no. The Knicks. The Knicks are winning tonight and they're closing down San Antonio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't want them to. Why? We want them to close the San Antonio. You just want to get it over with.

[Andrew Schultz]

I want to get it over with. I can't deal with this stress anymore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nixon 6, bro. It's easy. The only reason the spurs are going to win two games is because they're actually that talented to win. They're not going to win a seven game series against. I think tonight going to be a blowout.

[Andrew Schultz]

It should be a blowout for the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Knicks and yes, for the Knicks.

[Andrew Schultz]

And by the way, if the zebras

[Charlamagne Tha God]

don't dis I would like to say this. The best basketball in the playoffs has been in these NBA Finals. These games have been amazing.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's been incredible runs, big runs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ones. Tonight we get our first blowout. Tonight we get our first blowout. And it's the New York Knicks. And if not, we're editing this, huh?

[Taylor]

I have a question about it. If they, the Knicks win. They already won two games. So if they win this one, it

[Andrew Schultz]

shouldn't be one more after this one. So it's best of seven. So the first team went for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, best four. I love when women. I love talking sports with women. I'm not. But it's really not a stereotype type about women not knowing anything.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, because it combines things that they're not good at. Right? It's like sports and math. So, like, it's hard for them to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I mean, you got your exceptions and they're all on espn.

[Taylor]

Why are you saying they're not good? I mean, I'm not good at math. But why are you saying other women aren't good enough, though?

[Andrew Schultz]

Why are women not good at math?

[Taylor]

I know other women are good at math.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, the funniest in the world. We had Destiny Spurlock on. She's the first black. Black woman driving in nascar. So I'm like, so what do you. How do you try to defy the stereotype that women can't drive? And so Jess goes, women don't know that's a stereotype that women can't drive. I go, yes. She goes, but I thought it was a stereotype that go. And I see. Say, who is.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who is she?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who is it that can't drive? Like, no, no. I'm like, say it, Jess. Who's the people that you heard can't drive? She's like, no, no, not saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm not saying. Hey, Chris, when you were in. When you.

[Chris]

Let's. Let's talk about this. I genuinely am curious because I've Fantastic drive.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I just point something out? Can I point something out? I've actually. Because you know me, like, I like to know where all this comes from.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right?

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So I, I Google, like, what is the etymology of this stereotype? Like, you could usually you could find justifications types historically. So where the.

[Taylor]

This had to come from something. Yeah, it's like it came from somewhere.

[Chris]

Tokyo drift. These guys are masters. Asians are fantastic drivers. I can't believe the precision I see in Taiwan.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but how do you know they're trying to drift? You know what I mean? Like, we don't know if that's the goal.

[Chris]

Got out of control and they're smooth with it, right? Yeah, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

They. Bro, when we were in the middle, we're in, we're in Saudi Arabia, they told me because they just started letting women drive, right? And it was like, it was kind of like funny in general because it was like, there's traffic. And my whole thing was like, this is on you, man. Like you just up the people on the road by two, you know what I mean? But they're like. So I was like, are they, are they tough at driving or whatever? And. And they were like, yeah, they get accidents all the time. And I was like, really? How do you know if it's a woman driver? It's like if you see somebody in like a Toyota or something like that. And I was like, why, why is that their car? He goes, well, you can't give them like an expensive car. Like they're going to crash it. So like if you see anybody on the road in a specific trainer, it's a training.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hilarious.

[Chris]

Well, who's the worst drivers in New York City? Let's tell the truth.

[Andrew Schultz]

The worst.

[Chris]

Yeah, I'll tell you, they are.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who mopeds?

[Chris]

Well, we know that cars sids.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

In Brooklyn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why are they so bad?

[Taylor]

Jersey too.

[Chris]

I don't know about Jersey.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why are they so bad, Chris?

[Chris]

They don't obey the rules.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I will ever see them driving, they always be walking. Oh my God.

[Chris]

In my neighborhood. But like in, in the vans, they're all about rules.

[Andrew Schultz]

They got a million different rules.

[Chris]

Not man's rules.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ah, that's so funny though. You said. I said I only see him walking. But that's just on Saturdays when they going to the synagogue.

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah, I know you said Hispanics.

[Chris]

Nah, not my favorite.

[Andrew Schultz]

But like who are the best drivers in the city?

[Chris]

Say like a nice middle class white guy is probably number one.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, can we just call it what it is? Are we the best at driving?

[Chris]

I think so.

[Andrew Schultz]

Middle class whites the best at driving, right? I think just New Yorkers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, New Yorkers are good drivers. Cuz I remember when I first moved up here, bro, it was a. Yeah, I was having panic attacks driving. I got into a record in New Jersey. Jersey just off straight, pure panic.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just never used to that kind of traffic. New York is New York driving. It's easy now, but when I first

[Andrew Schultz]

moved up there, you gotta fight for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh God. You gotta be a bully and you gotta have patience. You really gotta have pace just sitting there. In traffic for mad long. Like nah, you have to have patience.

[Chris]

But you have to make the. This is what I tell people from out of the city. You have to make the aggressive move because that's what everyone's assuming you make.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it's actually.

[Chris]

You actually cause the accidents by being cautious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not an offensive driver. I'm a defensive driver. I really am.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait, where does. Where. Let me ask. Chat TBT where the Asians can't drive stereo look, here it is. So a few of the biggest factors people point to. Early Asian immigrants in the US Often came from densely populated cities where fewer people drove regularly. Especially older generations arriving in the mid 20th century. In some cases they learn to drive later in life or in a different traffic culture. That makes sense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I read something like that about women too. Where women have said because women weren't able to drive until a certain period of time. So that's why like other people just were. Men were just more experienced drivers because they had did it longer.

[Andrew Schultz]

Also their periods be their heads up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Scroll up. No, go to. It was one of the. The one before that. Okay. Victor Rojas 956 says, what's the gayest thing you would do to save your family? I don't judge people for what they do in survival mode.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I don't think. I don't think survival gay is gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, nah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Survival gay is not gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it's not. Sucking dick for the taste is gay.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's more culinary arts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ooh, I never thought about it like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

I would think if you sucking dick for a taste of dick, but it tastes. That's not gay. That's not. You love food. You're a foodie at the end of the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now that is a. Interesting perspective.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stuck in dick because you enjoy making a man come is gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. That's two men sharing sexual relations. Yes. But if I'm just sucking flavor. Taste for flavor. Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Not gay. What's gay about that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think that's gay either.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're right. Serious right now. No, cuz if that dick was attached to a woman or a wall, you would still want to suck it because you like the flavor of the dick. It's got nothing to do with what it's attached to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is true. Because what if. What if wall dick is the best dick might be and it's rare.

[Taylor]

It's rare seasoning on it. Like what are you talking about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean if it ends, does it require seasoning? What type of wine do you take? You drink With a dick. Yeah. What type of wine do you drink? What type of wine pairs well with a penis? Huh?

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm trying to think of one. Hold on, hold on. Let me think of one. Oh, I know, know. A shard on gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let dads have some fun.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dads have some fun.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I mean, gays have some fun. Sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gays can be dads too.

[Taylor]

Yeah, sure they can.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What else we got?

[Andrew Schultz]

If you like, if you like black dick, the best wine would be a pinot noir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A penis noir. A penis noir. A penis.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is fun. This is fun to pair wine with dicks.

[Chris]

I'm working hard on, man Chevitz, man,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

what a good wine to pair with penis. Let's see what it says. Let's see what Chad says. If you're making a joke.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is hilarious.

[Andrew Schultz]

Give me, give me, give me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you're making a joke, joke. The classic answer is that a full bodied red goes with meat.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's good, that's good, that's good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But Dennis says if you're asking seriously about incorporating food or wine into sexual activity, it's generally safest to enjoy the wine separately rather than applying it to the body.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, that's. You gotta be like, yo, you taking this too seriously, bro. Stop nerding out on this shit. You're taking this way too seriously.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ah, sorry, Oscar. Oscar said dick talk. We just did some dick talk, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oscar Bing be savage on him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn dick talk. Arsenal Vega says if comedians can say whatever they want, then why don't white comedians say the N word? They do. L CK has historically said it.

[Andrew Schultz]

There are white comedians who have said it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

L is the one that Neil Brennan used to say it. You know, I don't think he said it no more, but it was. They had jokes around the N word.

[Andrew Schultz]

There have been white comedians who have said the N word.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Who was the white comedian? He's old, though. He was on with Richard Pryor, Lenny Bruce, Lenny Bruce. Lenny had a whole thing about the N word. Lenny's whole shtick was. He literally was. He got to go actually watch it. And I watched it because a comedian, I forgot who recently told me about it. Maybe it was Kevin somebody recently told me about it and I went to go watch it. But he literally, when I say he pushed the crowd to the fucking limit, to the point where it was all right, that's it, bro. You got it. You about to get it type shit. Like he had to push them to that to reel them back in. But then it Was this whole bit at the end where it was like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like taking away the power of the word.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taking the power. Words. You shouldn't let words affect you. It was actually pretty brilliant when you watched it.

[Lenny Bruce]

By the way, are there any niggers here tonight? What did he say?

[Andrew Schultz]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hit. What the.

[Lenny Bruce]

Is he really getting out of his nut? Are there any niggers here? Is he that desperate for shock value? And he scraped the button. Bound to be that cruel to say are there any niggers here tonight? Have I ever talked about the Schwartz? And they left the room all the Mulan Johns of the Yomzo Placated some southern by absence of voice when he rant and raid about the nigger. Nigger. Niggers aren't any nigger here. I know I'm working with a nigger. I think I see one nigger coupled back there between those two niggers to three kikes. Thank God for the kikes. And two spicks. And one mick. They have two spicks, one mick, three kikes and one spunky, funky, hunky. Any more boogies? Three more sheenies, Eight more guineas. Six guineas, Seven whops. Six grease balls. I pass. Six dykes, four kikes and eight niggers. The point if President Kennedy got on television every day and said, I would like to introduce all the niggers in my cabinet. And all the niggers called each other niggers. They all time too, but in front of the old phase. And every day you heard nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger. In the second month, nigger would mean as much as good night or God bless you in your sneeze. Or perhaps as much as I promise I'll hold, hold to nothing but the do, so help me God, would lose its impact and never make any foil crying when he came home school.

[Andrew Schultz]

And all of a sudden, Lenny Bruce, super ahead of his time. Also, Lenny traveled, if I'm not mistaken, with like a black jazz musician that would, like, open with him. That would open for him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sly Stone.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sly stone. Mean, the reason I say that, not on some, like, oh, he had a black friend, but more like he wasn't trying to provoke. He wasn't trying to, like, embolden racists. He was trying to antagonize people that were racist.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I would love to ask the George Collins of the world, the Lenny Bruce's, the Richard Pryors. Those guys were naturally fun, right? Like, just naturally. You can tell that they were just. Just regular conversation. They were naturally funny. Were they Trying to be smart. Like John Stewart is a naturally funny person, but he's also just very smart because to me, the funny comes easy for them. So the way that they have to sit back and observe the world has to come from a very intellectual perspective. And I think that they bought that to a lot of their comedy with their life observations. I think nowadays you have a lot of people who are trying to be

[Andrew Schultz]

funny, but it might not be natural.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Cuz I, I forgot who I. I just saw somebody say this where they were talking about the difference between comedy and being funny. And they was like, I can, I can teach somebody comedy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tracy Morgan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tracy. It was Tracy. Tracy said, I can teach you comedy, but I can't teach you how to be funny. He was like, I got uncles that are just funny. Like, funny is just something. And I believe that I could teach

[Charles Barkley]

everybody in this room how to do comedy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But funny. Are you funny? Richard Pryor was funny. That's a way of being. That's in your soul. That's your sense of humor. That's what you was born with. Comedy is just learning how to tell jokes. But funny is a way of life. Okay, look at this glass. What's funny about that? That's an exercise Mar used to do with me. What's funny about that?

[Charles Barkley]

It's your job to find a funny. My father was Richard Pryor funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He did comedy in Vietnam. I'm just mimicking my dad.

[Charles Barkley]

You could tell jokes, but at the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

end of the day, are you funny?

[Charles Barkley]

Comedy and funny is two different things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So when you're already funny, you can take that funny and do whatever you want with it. Like, George Carlin was funny, but he had just had these great observations of the world. Richard Fire was funny, but he had these great observations of the world. Lenny Bruce was funny, but he had these great observations of the world.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think it's both. Both. I think that there are people who are just naturally funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what you should be to be a comedian. Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

I agree.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think you have to try to be funny.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think there are people who can kind of get around it by like structuring jokes and like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But we don't usually find them funny, but people do.

[Andrew Schultz]

Or they're like, oh, that joke is clever. Or like, it works in certain things. But like, if at your core you're funny, like, that's where you get the. Oh, I'm forgetting his name. Name. Big fat guy was on snl.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Keenan Thompson. Nah, big fat guy on this barley. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like Chris Farley. I don't know if any of us can remember a joke that he told,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

but he was just funny.

[Andrew Schultz]

Remember dying, laughing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

That's the physical Belushi. The big guys who are nimble on their feet. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then there's some people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jim Carrey's like, that Jim is.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Physically. Just hilarious.

[Andrew Schultz]

But then there's also people who like the way that they organize the world. Like Chris Rock, for example. Just if you just sit with him and talk. The way he organizes the world is just through a lens of humor. Like, he. It's like he's gonna analyze something and it's gonna make sense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But the way that he'll explain it off stage, I'm saying if we're just hanging like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Funny. Yeah. It's just. That's how he sees shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like, like putting on, like, glasses that are tinted red. Everything looks a little red.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I ain't going to let y' all ever try to ruin Chris. Y. I, I see y' all keep trying to.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who's y'?

[Chris]

All?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why did I. I watch the Internet. I know the Internet tries to do it, though. Like, but it's not Rushmore. Chris is golden, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't give a what Rushmore, like, this is. Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I, I just wonder about that because I feel like you have a lot of people nowadays who try to be funny and that's why it's not funny. Funny. But then the people that are naturally funny always seem to be the smartest.

[Andrew Schultz]

But sometimes what happens is this. And this is where stand up is kind of unique. Naturally funny people sometimes are lazy and stand up is hard and you can kind of get away with it a little bit. But if you really want to do an hour, that's great. You need to work hard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And the people who are willing to work hard and have natural humor can make really special.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I. Sometimes I feel like I was gonna do one more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor. Almost time. You feel like what?

[Andrew Schultz]

Sometimes I feel like sometimes you see the guys who are like the most naturally hilarious dude, they're hanging out the club, but they're just the funniest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But their stand up, because it comes so easy to them, it's like almost like a big man who hasn't really developed his game. Yeah. And he never has had to because he's just so big. But the, the guys who are the best at the highest level are the big men. Men that develop their game. Yeah. Hakeem Olajuwon worked on the game?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schultz]

But he also had natural instincts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely. Oh, we was gonna do one more, but Taylor said it and just walked out and closed everything down. But hey man, as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know, you're right, too. It's a brilliant idiot podcast. Thank you for listening to Face.

[Andrew Schultz]

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