ReeC**k Pumps

Summary

Detailed Summary of "The Brilliant Idiots" Podcast Episode: "ReeCk Pumps"**

Release Date: July 24, 2025

Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz

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1. Introduction and Shout-Out to Jim Kerr

Timestamp: [01:15] - [04:04]

The episode begins with Charlamagne Tha God giving a heartfelt shout-out to Jim Kerr, an OG radio personality in New York City who has been on air for over five decades on KTU. Charlamagne shares a humorous anecdote about Jim's attempts to describe him on the news, highlighting the generational and cultural gaps between them.

Notable Quote:

Charlamagne Tha God [02:07]: "He just tried to make you look handicapped, and it wasn't his fault. He was just trying to describe you."

2. Critique of the "Smurfs" Movie and Gender Representation

Timestamp: [04:04] - [11:13]

Charlie and Andrew delve into their recent experiences watching the "Smurfs" movie. Charlamagne expresses his disappointment with the lack of female characters in Smurfville, questioning the absence of a "Mama Smurf" and critiquing the portrayal of Smurfette's origins. They humorously analyze the movie's oversight on gender representation.

Notable Quotes:

Charlamagne Tha God [03:04]: "Why ain't no goddamn women in Smurfville?"

Andrew Schulz [04:08]: "This is a straight up kids movie."

3. Mocking Hunter Biden's Interview on Crack Cocaine

Timestamp: [11:13] - [22:00]

The conversation shifts to a recent viral clip featuring Hunter Biden discussing crack cocaine. Charlamagne and Andrew ridicule the interview, highlighting how Biden seemingly glamorizes crack. They satirize his explanations, comparing his approach to other pop culture references and emphasizing the absurdity of promoting such a dangerous substance.

Notable Quotes:

Charlamagne Tha God [08:21]: "You gotta find that, Alex. You gotta find Hunter Biden."

Andrew Schulz [11:46]: "He’s a crackologist, bro. Like that motherfucker."

4. Cheating Scandal: CEO Andy Byron Resigns

Timestamp: [22:00] - [38:35]

A major portion of the episode covers the resignation of Andy Byron, CEO of Astronomer, following a scandal involving infidelity with the HR director. Charlamagne and Andrew dissect the implications of a power dynamic where a superior engages in an affair with a subordinate, discussing workplace ethics and the potential fallout for the company. They humorously speculate on the motives and repercussions, including the impact on Byron's personal and professional life.

Notable Quotes:

Andrew Schulz [19:12]: "If he was being taken advantage of by the HR, how he was said, 'I'll write you up if you don't date me.'"

Charlamagne Tha God [21:26]: "If you enjoy crack that much, just smoke it."

5. WNBA vs. NBA: Financial Disparities and Player Salaries

Timestamp: [38:35] - [83:45]

The hosts engage in an in-depth discussion about the financial struggles and salary disparities between the WNBA and NBA. They analyze the WNBA's ongoing deficits, the call for higher percentage revenue shares for players, and the league's reliance on being a loss leader similar to startups like Uber. They debate the sustainability of the WNBA, the potential for profitability, and the unique challenges faced by female athletes in a male-dominated sports industry.

Notable Quotes:

Charlamagne Tha God [29:08]: "It's business, you know what I mean? That's really all it is."

Andrew Schulz [30:07]: "They have teams that are profitable. If you're on a profitable team, your salary shouldn't be dictated based on what everybody else in the league is making."

6. Tribute to Malcolm Jamal Warner's Passing

Timestamp: [60:58] - [83:45]

The episode takes a somber turn as Charlamagne and Andrew pay tribute to Malcolm Jamal Warner, known for his role in "The Cosby Show." They discuss the tragic circumstances of his death due to drowning in a riptide in Costa Rica, reflecting on the fragility of life and the randomness of such accidents. The hosts share personal anecdotes and express their condolences, emphasizing the impact Warner had on their lives and the broader cultural landscape.

Notable Quotes:

Charlamagne Tha God [74:00]: "When you think about just being a father... and then this happens."

Andrew Schulz [77:58]: "Rest in peace, Malcolm Jamal Warner. That was heartbreaking."

7. Decline of Late-Night TV and Stephen Colbert's Show Ending

Timestamp: [83:45] - [117:00]

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the declining landscape of late-night television, particularly focusing on Stephen Colbert's "Late Show" ending in May 2026. Charlamagne and Andrew analyze the financial and political pressures leading to the show's cancellation, debating whether it was purely a financial decision or influenced by political factors, including Trump's disdain for Colbert. They critique the broader trend of late-night shows facing reduced viewership and ad revenues, comparing it to contemporary media consumption habits dominated by digital platforms.

Notable Quotes:

Charlamagne Tha God [84:07]: "Nobody will ever be that famous ever again."

Andrew Schulz [91:17]: “This week, they have been on Paramount...”

8. Political Commentary: Epstein Files, Trump, and Biden

Timestamp: [83:45] - [117:00]

The hosts dive into a heated political debate surrounding the Epstein files, alleging that the administration is withholding incriminating information. They discuss recent meetings between political figures like JD Vance and media moguls such as Rupert Murdoch, speculating on the motives behind these interactions. Charlamagne and Andrew express frustration over perceived corruption and the lack of transparency from government officials, urging Democrats to take decisive action against institutional corruption to regain public trust.

Notable Quotes:

Andrew Schulz [99:20]: “They’re putting the bat signal in the sky for everybody to just keep piling on...”

Charlamagne Tha God [101:51]: "And nobody thinks this was strictly purely financial."

9. Philanthropy and Community Involvement

Timestamp: [60:58] - [117:00]

Towards the end of the episode, Charlamagne and Andrew highlight their philanthropic efforts. Andrew discusses organizing the inaugural Hampton's Paddle Classic charity tournament to support Baby Quest, a fertility charity. Charlamagne shares his involvement with the Food Bank in New York City and promotes Cheryl McKissack Daniel’s upcoming book, celebrating the contributions of Black families in construction over two centuries. The hosts emphasize the importance of giving back and supporting community initiatives.

Notable Quotes:

Andrew Schulz [62:31]: "This is a great charity. I want you to go check it out."

Charlamagne Tha God [65:02]: "The Food Bank was doing what they do, making sure that people are motherfucking eating."

10. Closing Remarks and Reflections

Timestamp: [117:00] - [End]

In their closing segment, Charlamagne and Andrew reflect on the episode's discussions, balancing humor with serious topics. They reiterate the importance of accountability, transparency, and community support. The hosts encourage listeners to stay informed, engaged, and proactive in addressing societal issues.

Notable Quotes:

Charlamagne Tha God [117:00]: "If you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart... but if you listen and think we're just a couple of idiots, you're right too."

Andrew Schulz [117:21]: "Don't just sit here in silence. Here's what we can do next."

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Conclusion

In this episode of "The Brilliant Idiots," Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz navigate a wide array of topics, blending humor with incisive social and political commentary. From critiquing pop culture representations and dissecting high-profile scandals to engaging in deep political debates and honoring influential figures, the hosts provide a multifaceted conversation that reflects their unique blend of "idiotic brilliance" and unfiltered insights. The episode underscores the importance of accountability, representation, and community involvement, all while maintaining the signature hysterical and engaging style that "The Brilliant Idiots" are known for.

Transcript

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Venmo purchase restrictions apply. Yep. Charlamagne the Guy interest show. We are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Back for another week of Brilliant Idiotness. Hezekiah Walker hello. Listen, you gotta make sure your posture is correct, bro. Talk to me because we be on motherfucking the news and like people be saying things to me. Shout out to my man, Jim Kerr. Jim Kerr is a OG radio personality here in New York City. Been on the air for like 50 something years on KTU. He goes, yeah, I saw you. He said you're always popping up on the news. He said, you're always popping up on the news. And he's like, it was you and this white guy. And he was like, the guy was sitting like this. Like he just tried to. He was like the guy who was just sitting like this. I'm just like, he really tried to make you look handicapped and it wasn't his fault. He was just trying to describe you. He's an older guy trying to describe what he saw.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I got a little Stephen Hawking in me, man. It looked like you guys just folded me up and sat me here. Sometimes I watch the bottom. Like, how is that even comfortable? Like, this isn't bad. This is comfy. But sometimes I get like all crossed over like this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm trying to tell you. And it's like, whenever the clips that they use that go viral, it's always you looking like your body is throwing up a gang. So that would make you a Crip, if you're okay. How was your week, man?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't wait to see Fantastic Four this weekend.

[Andrew Schulz]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't wait, bro, talk to me. I mean, just. Cause the movie theater is my happy place. Like, I really like being in a movie theater. I like the popcorn, I like the peanut MM's. It's just something about being in a movie theater that allows me to escape. And, you know, Superman came out a couple weeks ago, Went and saw that, Went and started Smurfs last week with my kids.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, how was that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't fucking know. I fell asleep within 20 minutes. Cause we went on a Friday, you know what I'm saying? You go on a Friday. I've been long day, one long week, you know what I'm saying? And I'm sitting there like 4 o' clock in the afternoon, and my mind just started wandering because I'm watching the movie and the first thing I think to myself is, why ain't no goddamn women in Smurfville? There's one smart fetch, the only motherfucking one.

[Andrew Schulz]

She working overtime.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. Are they running trains on Smurfette? Like, how are they creating other Smurfs? And then as I'm thinking that they show in the movie how Smurfette wasn't even naturally born. What she's made a clay. And then I think Gargamel or somebody made her.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And magic brought her to life. And so I go and do Google. I'm Googling in the movie. Because I really don't give a fuck about the movies. I'm like, what the fuck? So I Google in the movie and it says all the women in Smurf village are made out of magic.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, this is the. This is the Adam and Eve story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, but the rib. Yeah, but at least they were made out of another Smurf. My point is, who the fuck is Mama Smurf? It's a Papa Smurf. And no Mama Smurf. None of the Smurfs. None of my point is this. They say the storks bring the Smurfs.

[Andrew Schulz]

But, like, think about how well society functions without women. Like, the Smurfs get along really well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, bro. That Smurf village is the gayest village since the goddamn village that's right around the corner here in New York. Fuck out of here. Like, no, like, one of them is grouchy. Why do you think he's so mad? Ain't no fucking cheeks in the motherfucking.

[Andrew Schulz]

Village not coughing it up, you know? What's her name again?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There is no Mama Smurf. Oh, Smurfette.

[Andrew Schulz]

Smurfette.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But they all love Smurfette. I think there was one other one, but she not in the movie.

[Andrew Schulz]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's interesting the things you focus on in a kids movie like that. You're like, who's getting pussy in here? Yo, yo, how do you smoke?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because there's nothing else to think about. Like, Disney movies at least give you something else to see. Like, Disney movies actually have a plot and a premise, like the Disney cartoons. Like, there's a larger theme.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is a straight up kids movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Even Pixar. Pixar had the larger theme.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what. That's why I asked you how the movie was. Because I appreciate the kids movies that have the adult themes. Like Zootopia. Did you watch Zootopia? Like, as an adult, you can watch it and enjoy it for a completely different reason than the kids do. And now you're giving some joy to the adult and the children that are there and everybody's happy. But these, like, children's shows, like Miss Rachel or like Blues Clues or these types is just for the kid.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Educational.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but it's still fun. Sesame street used to be for the adults and the kid. And then they made a more addictive version of the TV for the kid and sacrificed the adult's enjoyment. So the kids watch by themselves. And now the adults and the kids aren't watching the show together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That makes a lot of sense. Because I think anything that can be spoofed for adults actually has something in it for adults. Sesame street could be spoofed for adults.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wasn't there, like, funny little sexual innuendo and jokes in Sesame Street? But they didn't really acknowledge it. Like, they can't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like. Yeah, like Big Bro, I think. What? Who knew who was Snuffleuphagus was gay?

[Andrew Schulz]

Burton Ernie. They said anyway, like, they were acting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oscar de Grass was Hunter Biden. No, I'm just saying. Yes. Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

How did. How did Andrew Callahan get an interview with Hunter Biden? Bro, shout out to Andrew callahan and Channel 5 news. He's the guy who did the Biden interview. You didn't see this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I thought it was Jamie Harrison.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, this is Channel 5 News. This is Andrew Kelly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't pay no attention. I saw two. I saw one with Jamie Harrison and Hunter Biden. Nah, the one where I just thought that was the same interview.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's like super cracked out. He's just going crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I loved it. Hunter Biden made crack sound tasty.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wait, why? What do you say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You didn't see it. We don't have that. You gotta find that, Alex. You gotta find Hunter Biden.

[Andrew Schulz]

I saw the clip. George Clooney.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, please, man. Find the clip of Hunter Biden talking about crack. I saw Pusha T reposted and put deep. Matter of fact, go to Pusha T's Twitter page. It's up on Pusha T's Twitter page. You're not going to tell me that Hunter Biden didn't make crack sound tasty? What? That was a just say yes ad, bro. Look it up. No, you don't. They go on X.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, no, there we go. Al.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, click on that. Yeah, yeah, click on it because the video is in there. Like, the clip's gonna use this shit for their next. See it right there. The clip's gonna use this for like an intro on their next album or something. Push. You gotta use this for an intro on his mixtape or something.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the fuck is this shit? You gotta do all this to get on just to listen to Hunter Biden? I might have an ad blocker or.

[Andrew Schulz]

Some shit like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is crazy, Al. We need Taylor immediately. Yo, shout out to Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor gang. Taylor's a vaccinations. Taylor gang did it squeeze out.

[Andrew Schulz]

We love you, Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor's a hard working young lady, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

What's she doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who the fuck Text the group chat? I just had a baby.

[Andrew Schulz]

I just want to point out. I texted her and then she's like, I just had the baby. And then she texted the group.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who does that? I've seen four of these happen. My wife don't want to.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm upset at y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Andrew Schulz]

Not for checking in. I'm upset.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've been checking in. I definitely been checking in. Let's hear this, man. This is Hunter Biden.

[Alex]

The only difference between crack cocaine and cocaine is sodium bicarbonate and water and heat. Literally. That's it.

[Andrew Schulz]

And those things are pretty Much free. If you go to, like, a science.

[Alex]

Store, this is free. You can go to your neighborhood convenience store and just get. Anyway, I don't want to tell people how to make crack cocaine, but it literally is a mayonnaise jar. Cocaine and baking soda.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How different is the experience?

[Alex]

Vastly, vastly different. And like, for real, I, I, I feel really reluctant to kind of have some euphoric discussion. I know you're not asking me to do that, but have some euphoric discussion about crack cocaine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think this might be kind of the opposite here.

[Alex]

Okay? No, I, it's the exact opposite. I'm saying I don't want to have the experience of some euphoric recall.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Mouth water.

[Alex]

That's how powerful crack cocaine is. Does crack cocaine make you act any differently? No. Is it safer than alcohol?

[Andrew Schulz]

Probably.

[Alex]

People think of crack as being dirty. It's the exact opposite. When you make crack, what you're doing is you're burning off all the impurities so that it combines with the sodium bicarbonate, which makes it smokeable. That's all. You know, all of these actors and, you know, people in the past that talked about they had a problem with cocaine and freebasing, they were smoking crack.

[Andrew Schulz]

So straw on the stove is the same thing?

[Alex]

Not exactly, but close to it, but it's a little bit different. But anyway, my point about it, your point about it, which I think is true, is that there's a thing about crack that is really insidious. And what it is is that anytime, you know, I think one of the reasons that they believe that smoking cigarettes is so addictive is because it combines three really important things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Watch what he says.

[Alex]

It's habit forming. There is an oral fixation, and there is ritual combined with. And so the idea of hand to mouth is a habit and a fixation that we learned very early, even as children. With a pacifier, with a spoon, with your thumb, to. Even to breast speak. Okay? So really. So I, and I don't want to get into the psychology of it because I'm, I'm no expert, but I do know this is that you combine with that ignition combustion, and then you combine the ritual. You have your cigarette in the morning, you have a cigarette when you get out of the car, you have your cigarette with your coffee.

[Andrew Schulz]

Crack.

[Alex]

Is that on steroids? It's over and over. There's ritual to it. There's a ritualized part of it. The combination of all of those addictive behaviors together becomes, like, really powerful. And the drug in and of itself is a more immediate euphoric sensation connected to it than in my experience, cocaine alone.

[Andrew Schulz]

Does it require more frequency to maintain the highest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Alex]

Yes. And the capacity to use more than you could otherwise with powder cocaine just physically to be able to ingest it?

[Andrew Schulz]

So you, you're kind of saying that cocaine reaches a certain plateau of euphoria where you can't necessarily get any higher?

[Alex]

My experience, yes. This is like a PSA if you want to completely, utterly fuck up your life. You know, I don't think that anything is necessarily, oh, you do it once you addicted. But there's about the closest thing that statement could be true would be with crack cocaine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bring me some motherfucking crack.

[Andrew Schulz]

Shit. Golly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a just say yes ad, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

Godly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's a crackologist, bro. Like that motherfucker. Nah, that's made that shit sound tasty as fuck.

[Andrew Schulz]

And he also justified. He's like, it's not as bad as alcohol. It's pure. You get all chemicals out of there. All these other actors have done it. Like, he spent a lot of time justifying his.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He really likes crack.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, he does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That motherfucker enjoy crack. If you enjoy crack that much, just smoke it. Yeah, I'm not going to front if you, if you make it. That's. That's not an addiction. He just enjoys it. And he told us why people like sucking dick.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point.

[Hezekiah Walker]

That's the most articulate crackhead I've ever seen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Never that heard it explained like that in my life.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no. You could definitely tell why he earned his position on the Ukrainian oil company. I, I could, I could, I could see why he got that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And by the way, that's a privileged crackhead.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? When you talk about white privilege, you talking about that cocaine. Okay.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, I know.

[Andrew Schulz]

He chose to do crack.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He chose to fry it. Yeah. Like, cocaine ain't number fried crack. Crack is number fried coke. Yeah, you get it. You put a little powder with it. You know what I'm saying? You fry it up and make a nice tasty treat. Like, he made that. Like, you know how the people come to your fucking table. If I had, like, if, if I. When I. When I have a fine dining restaurant, if I ever decide to go that route, I'm going to show all my waiters that video. Because when you come to the table and they say, let me tell you about the specials. Yeah. I need you to describe the specials. The way Hunter Biden Describes crack.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I was wondering where you was going.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, it's a good point. Like, I want them to be that addicted to it. You want them to have that level of passion. I mean, he even preface it in the beginning. He said, I don't want to have a recall of euphoria. He's like, I'm afraid of telling you how good it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because I don't want to have that memory of how good it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I want to spoof that. But I want it to be a guy who used to be gay. But he's delivered now.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's like, yo, crack was the best, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, not crack.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, technically.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He'S like, it reminds me of the glass pipe.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The crack. You know what I mean? How you take the lighter and you hold the pipe and do like this. It's the same with the balls.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's disgusting. A little too much. A little too much. Too much. We got Pete Buttigieg on the pot one time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pete's been there a lot, man. Shout out to Pete Buttigieg, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, you had Mayor Pete on, man. How was he?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, Pete's always good, man. I always give Pete all the credit in the world because Pete comes to platforms when he don't have to.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? He comes to platforms when he's not campaigning, when he's not in office. He's just trying to make a genuine connection with the people. You know, he spoke about stuff that, you know, like, backlash that he got from, you know, flagrant and stuff.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was saying, like, you know, people just. People just have things misconstrued. Like, he was like, you know, they don't like when. And he said this, but he said they don't like when they see people like him in right wing spaces. But he said, I don't consider flagrant a right wing space. You know what I mean? But he was like. He said it reminded him of when he first started going on Fox News years ago. Like, the same flack he got for going on flagrant reminded him of how. When he first started going on Fox News years ago. But it's just like, why would.

[Andrew Schulz]

It was also his biggest interview that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He'S had, I think so.

[Andrew Schulz]

So, like, the bigger the interview, the more flack that's gonna come with it in general. But, like, we got, like some crazy statistics on it. Like, it was. I mean, it was insane.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, like views or engagement or 44 million views. Damn. On what? On just impressions across different platforms.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like engagements. 2.8 million engagements, 36 million observed views, 8 million estimated based on engagements for platforms that don't report views. So plays it like 78% of engagements came from posts from progressive pages, 20 from neutral, 2% conservative. That's what I'm trying to say. It's like, oh, I got this pushback. It's like from your own people. Like, like, it's like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know why, though? The algorithm doesn't know the difference. The best conversations are the one that get everybody going. It gets both sides going. Because most people probably didn't even watch the interview. So if you didn't watch the interview, you're just already you have a visceral reaction. How dare Pete sit down with Andrew Schultz right there. Right. But those who watched the interview were like actually breaking down pieces of the interview.

[Andrew Schulz]

You could tell. It's like everybody who watched it was like, applaud. They were like, this is amazing. You got to have these conversations. It's incredible. All this about the comments on the episode. Right. So it's like, this is why I laugh so much when people like right wing podcast. The comments on the episode are like, Pete's incredible. This is the guy who should run for president. Like, it was so unbelievably supportive of Pete. So that can't exist if the audience is against the things that Pete stands for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. And then you might have the 2% of conservatives who just don't want a gay man opening in his mouth ever. You know what I'm saying? Right. So they're just appalled at seeing a gay man on a platform that they might appreciate.

[Andrew Schulz]

And then there's people who have reasonable criticisms too. Like, people it was, you know, like, hey, listen, he was in office during Biden and he didn't say anything about Biden being senile. Like, he was there, he was working for him, you know, like, so there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are guys will say that they just put their head down and they were doing the work. They weren't paying attention, of course, but not at all.

[Andrew Schulz]

But this is real, this is reasonable criticism. Like he wasn't able to get the charging stations in. He did only a few of them. It's like that was the job, you know? So I think there are people who have reasonable criticism that he's going to have to answer for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schulz]

At the end of the day, anybody who was part of that administration is going to have to either say they were complicit in the COVID up or I was putting my Head down and doing the work. Whatever bullshit that is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said that to him today.

[Andrew Schulz]

What do you say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why does everybody all of a sudden have the courage to speak truth to power? Like all of these things that people were saying years ago. It's just like now everybody wants to say, now Barack Obama. Oh, yeah. Democrats need to have more courage. Oh, yeah. Biden was too old. We should have ran another candidate. Duh.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, but just admit you're fucked up, yo.

[Andrew Schulz]

You just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's it.

[Andrew Schulz]

And then you move on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And move on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Move on with a good. With good intention.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Move on, move on, move on, move on. The way this tech CEO moved on. Did you see this shit, man? This is why motherfuckers shouldn't cheat, bro. Yeah. Did you like. What's his name again?

[Andrew Schulz]

Byron.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, what's his name?

[Hezekiah Walker]

Andy Byron.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Andy Byron has resigned following Coldplay concert. That's crazy incident. Why resign?

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, the reason he got to resign, I think, is because he didn't just cheat. He cheated with the HR director.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. So you gotta resign because there's nobody to write him up.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Hezekiah Walker]

You can't be somebody's superior and have an affair with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get. Whatever. I understand the logic. But we gotta stop acting like people don't like each other in the workplace.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, but her of all people, Ms. HR. All you have to do is just disclose that to hr, that, hey, we're dating now. And then you can see the person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How do we know. But how do we know he wasn't being taken advantage of by the hr? La. How he was said, I'll write you up if you don't date me.

[Andrew Schulz]

You think he wanted to go to Coldplay? You think it was this Torontomer? Guys, the CEO of Astronomer who wanted to watch the Coldplay concert, he begrudgingly went to the Coldplay concert with this cheating ass wife. A cheating ass side chick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They both were cheating, though, because they both were married.

[Andrew Schulz]

They're not really cheating, though. You got to do what the HR director says. That's her job.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's no.

[Andrew Schulz]

But the HR's department is to be someone who looks over the boss. The boss can't do whatever they want to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's.

[Andrew Schulz]

So technically, it's on her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's no way.

[Andrew Schulz]

It is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Their significant others didn't know about this.

[Andrew Schulz]

What?

[Hezekiah Walker]

Bro?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A Coldplay concert, Bro, you hugged up.

[Andrew Schulz]

At a Coldplay concert, even saying you.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Saw the other lady from the job that knew them and knew that they were doing something wrong. So this was just a group Outing, huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say that again.

[Andrew Schulz]

They tried to feel like it was a group out. Yeah, that's what they said.

[Hezekiah Walker]

It was another lady that works with them that was right next to him. So they.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She been knew about the relationship?

[Hezekiah Walker]

Oh, yeah, she knew.

[Andrew Schulz]

Of course.

[Hezekiah Walker]

She was on camera. She was like. She was like. Like she knew they was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I guarantee you the significant others knew. The reason he ducked is because he didn't want to bring bad. He didn't want to bring negative attention to the company. That wasn't a, oh, shit, let me get out the way so my wife don't see me. That's a, oh, shit, let me get out the way. Because I know the backlash that's gonna come from me being on my HR lady.

[Hezekiah Walker]

The very next day, his wife took off her surname from her.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, because. Yeah, because she's humiliated. She's humiliated in front of the entire world. But she probably knew it was already going down. I agree with Charlotte. They might have been already in divorce proceedings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, man. Bro, you don't go to a. No, you don't go to a concert with your side piece.

[Andrew Schulz]

You don't cheat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hung up with her with a whole group of people. You said that the. I didn't even know that. You said that the employee next to. Next to them knew. You think that all of those people know, but the wife don't know. The woman's husband don't know.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wife don't know. Wife bad, too. You see, that's what the Internet was saying. They're like, why would you cheat on her with this, the original wife? Look at the original wife. Time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, the HR lady wasn't young.

[Andrew Schulz]

No. And she's married too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. She was older. She had gray hairs. Like, that was kind of like, commendable.

[Andrew Schulz]

Again, what I'm trying to tell you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is like seeing somebody cheat with somebody they age.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're at the mercy of HR in a lot of these companies, Right? So he can't really do anything. In a lot of ways, you could say that she raped him.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Is this the wife or this?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, because if he doesn't do what she says, she could write him up. She could get him fired.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The whole company up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. So the power that she has over him is, like, unbelievable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know who's the wife? Which one is the wife?

[Andrew Schulz]

Go to his wife. CEO of astronomer wife.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't condone cheating in any way, shape or form, but black men don't cheat, and this is a white man. So this has nothing to do with.

[Andrew Schulz]

This guy's not white, dude. Come on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is he?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know. He's not white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This has nothing to do with me. All I'm simply saying is you're not taking your side piece out in public like that and being all hugged up with her, bro. I've seen this before.

[Hezekiah Walker]

This is the side piece. This is the wife show.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wife ain't bad. No, that's a different.

[Hezekiah Walker]

That's the white, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

Every picture is her. I don't know. There was some other picture where she was looking crazy good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll be honest with you, man, but.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't think white Americans cheat. Is he American? I don't think white Americans cheat. I think that's really a fact.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think it's cheating if she's under a five. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Charlamagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've been.

[Andrew Schulz]

I've been waiting. I've been waiting for somebody to make this argument. That's. That's genius. It's not cheating like I cheat on you with a five. That's a hand job. It's. It's. It's me. Jerking off. Looking up with a five is no different than getting a rub and tug. That's a rub and tug.

[Hezekiah Walker]

All right, how about both of y' all call your wives in? Accident.

[Andrew Schulz]

My wife's busy, man. We got mothers, bro. They got kids to raise.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, listen, I don't agree with anything that this guy did. I'm just simply saying it's not like he was out here winning. It's like, go back and look at that woman. God bless. You're not a terrible looking woman. She just look like she's, you know, been around a little bit. Been around for a while. You know what I mean? You don't think so?

[Hezekiah Walker]

I mean, I know. I agree with you, but also, this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is a married lady, so I. Bro, she looks weathered. Look at her, man. She looks weathered, bro. She don't look weathered to you, bro?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, she does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She looks weathered, man. You know what I mean? She look like she's the wife that's been getting cheated on forever. So in a lot of ways, it's like, yo, this guy was bringing her joy that she probably hasn't experienced in a while.

[Alex]

And.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you think her husband really cares?

[Hezekiah Walker]

Wait, which. Which husband? The hr?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just one. The side chick.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think they're in love, man. He's holding her from behind. They're watching Coldplay like they got something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, they are together, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

They're together, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause there's nothing about her that makes me say risk it all. Like, come on guys. Like, I'm being very superficial here. Yeah, I am. I know I'm being very shallow right now.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, he's hugged up in public. Like if he was just heading ahead at the office, that's a completely different situation. And you could probably, you know, you could go down a few points.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think this shit might be a social experiment in terms of just in general. I think sometimes man, you see certain things out there in the public and they distract us for whatever reason. Like there's something I never even heard of the company Astronomer and tell this, you know what I mean? And then now I can't stop seeing the company astronomer.

[Andrew Schulz]

But what does it do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look it up. I think they about to they trying to sell or something like that. If I'm not mistaken, I saw some shit about Astronomer, but we don't even.

[Andrew Schulz]

Know what the company does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We have no idea. Something about this don't feel right. Yo. Yeah, all the times Coldplay been fucking performing, have they been kiss cans before?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, you think this was set up on purpose?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have there ever been any? And by the way, yeah, that would.

[Andrew Schulz]

Be genius if it was the ex. If it was the wife, that would be genius. If it was the wife. She needs a reason to divorce. She works something out with the Coldplay team. She knows that her husband is going because she's in his email and he gets a confirmation to the tickets, the other names that are on it. She finds a connection to the Coldplay team, makes sure that they get on the jumbotron, it gets outed, she has justification for divorce. She gets a huge settlement. She's good, husband is humiliated. That's genius.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That could be one angle. Or be somebody who doesn't like the company astronomer or does like it and wants to. Yes, wants to out him is the CEO.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's amazing. That is amazing. Is the HR director stepping down too?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Of course not. Who going to fucking. Who going to write her up? She's the HR director. What does that say? Astronomer empowers data teams to bring mission critical software analytics and AI to life. We are the company behind Astro, the industry leading data what? The industry leading data what, Alex? Oh, the industry leading data orchestration and observability platform. Powered by Apache Airflow, Astro accelerates building reliable data products that unlock insights, unleash AI value and power data driven applications. I don't know what the fuck this company does the that I have no idea. But I know I never heard of A scum until nine. I bet you they've been searched so much over the past week. By the way, when I first heard about this, I thought he was an actual astronomy.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what I thought. I swear to God, I thought this. Yo, it's a damn shame.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not stupid. I thought he was a actual astronomer.

[Andrew Schulz]

Damn shame, bro. Pay the WNBA players what they deserve, Man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't cheat.

[Andrew Schulz]

Pay the WNBA players what they deserve. Sharla, why? Why are you not doing that? Charlotte, why are you not paying the WNBA players what they deserve?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Those T shirts were interesting.

[Andrew Schulz]

Tell me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because it said, pay us what you owe us. Right? That's what it said, right? What is it? What did it say? What was it? What did the shirt say exactly?

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, they are paying them what they own. They own their salary and they're paying that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is too much.

[Andrew Schulz]

What was he saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did you. Pay us what you owe us. Pay us what you owe us. They're not owed anything.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, this is the argument that people have been making. Maybe there's something I don't understand about it, but, like, if the league is losing money, they're getting overpaid. If you pay them what they owe you, you're gonna pay the league.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, the league is losing money on purpose. Like. Like the WNBA is what you call a loss leader. Like, right. So I think that, you know, they make investments into the WNBA because they know eventually it'll make money. It'll make money and it'll be worth it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like Uber or any of these other companies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Uber, SpaceX. There's plenty of car. Do your Google. There's plenty of companies that haven't made no money. I was reading something the other day. Who the fuck just started getting a profit over the last few years? It was one of these major companies. It might have been fucking Uber.

[Andrew Schulz]

Uber, yeah, it was Uber, Right. It just. Yeah, it just got in the black.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just got the Black, like in 2023 or some shit like that, you know? So this is what you call a lost leader? I do. This is the argument that I do agree with the women. The women don't want to make as much as the men because that's what they just couldn't.

[Andrew Schulz]

But they do want to. But they. They know that that's not realistic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What they want is a higher percentage of all basketball revenue made. Like, in the NBA, the guys get like, 40.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah, 49 to 51%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, 49 to 51 revenue made.

[Andrew Schulz]

How long has the WNBA been around?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shit, since like, 96 97. Like seven.

[Andrew Schulz]

So almost 30 years. Is that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And then, so then I think we got to look at like the NBA contract and like what was the NBA making 30 years in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a good point. What was the NBA making 30 years.

[Andrew Schulz]

And the NBA didn't have the luxury of another league subsidizing. Subsidizing. But like, let's just look at what percentage the players were getting. You know, 30 years in the growth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, the growth is incredible. They're about to do a $2.2 billion deal. What I also find interesting is there are teams that are profitable. Now I was thinking about this, right? The league as a whole isn't profitable yet, but there's teams that are profitable. If you're on a profitable team, your salary shouldn't be dictated based on what everybody else in the league is making. You're on a profitable team, that team should pay you more.

[Andrew Schulz]

But that puts that team at a clear advantage against the other teams in terms of allocating players.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, get profitable, motherfuckers. Be the New York Liberty beat a Las Vegas Aces. You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

But the whole idea is that there's no way that these small market teams can compete with the big market teams.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Indiana field FIFA could right now. Caitlyn Clark.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Boston, you're right. Like in a matter of. In about a year, the Indiana FIFA might be the. They might be the most valued team. I know the Liberty is right now. In a year or two, Indiana FIFA going to be the most valuable team in the league.

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, whatever team Kaylin Clark is on is the most valuable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andrew Schulz]

So he's the entire WNBA.

[Hezekiah Walker]

So 30 years in the NBA, total revenue was 60 million per year and the player salaries averaged 130 to 300K.

[Andrew Schulz]

So what percentage of that was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was that? One hundred and thirty to 300K. Thirty years in what year was that?

[Hezekiah Walker]

1976.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay. All right.

[Andrew Schulz]

But like, yeah, so I think we just need to understand like, and I just asked what percentage of revenue went to the players 30 years in. But yeah, look, it's tricky. It's, you know, they want to get paid more. I totally understand it, but maybe they don't understand the economics.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. It's not tricky. It's business, you know what I'm saying? That's really all it is. And you know, it's hard to have conversations.

[Hezekiah Walker]

35 to 40%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

35 to 40%. And that's what they want. That's what they're actually asking for. Like, you know, I think people get it fucked up because they're like, you're not supposed to be making as much as LeBron James. You're not supposed to be making as much as fucking shy. What they're asking for is simply a larger percentage of the revenue.

[Andrew Schulz]

And what the league is probably saying is, guys, in order to get people into the stands, we have to market this thing. And if we don't market it, nobody's going to watch. So let us spend money on marketing, and then future players will be able to make money like the guys made.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they were. 50 million. They lost $50 million last year. If I'm the NBA, and I wonder about this, too. Yeah, I know. We're making more money. We got this big television deal coming. $2.2 billion, I think it is. Don't I want to recoup if I'm the NBA?

[Andrew Schulz]

Of course. And they deserve to. They invested the money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. After I recoup, then you get some money. Yeah. I mean, that's what I would think. Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, that's how any business should function. Otherwise, why would we invest in business?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I would think. You know what I mean? That's what I would think.

[Andrew Schulz]

But I don't think that, like, when you're an employee of a company, I don't think employees of companies, and it's not just WNBA players, but, like, I don't think employees of the companies. Look at if the company is making money or not and how much they're making. I don't think employees of companies that are losing money think that they should make less because the company is losing money. You know what I mean? Like, there are plenty of, like, TV shows that lose money, and the employees of those TV shows aren't going, I should make less money because we're losing money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, shit. CEOs don't feel like that. CEOs will still give each other motherfucking bonuses regardless of what the stocks are doing, regardless of the company's losing money.

[Andrew Schulz]

The perfect example, right? So it's like everybody that works for a company deserves. Believes that they deserve to get paid. When the company starts making money, they're like, I should make more. When the company starts losing money, they never go, I should make less.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So I don't begrudge companies that are often like, hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Where was the conversation when we were losing $50 million a year about you guys make taking less money? The Second we start to make money, we get some attention. Y' all want to talk about how much more you should make? What about all those years that I was just paying for this and losing money?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's so crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's reasonable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody ever has that conversation. Like the CEO don't. The CEO can never sit you down and be like, look, man, this is what you're making, right? This is what you're paying you. This is what we're paying you. This shit ain't adding up. You know what I mean? So I need to cut your salary in the meantime. Nobody wants to take the salary cut. Nobody wants to take less money. But it makes sense for the CEO to do that because the CEO and the company are losing money.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean? But it's also up to the CEO, too, because some shit has to. If you, you know, guarantee somebody a contract, you got to honor that contract. Now you might can go to somebody and ask to, you know, restructure the contact for the. Restructure the contract for the company. But why did the talent got to do that, bro?

[Andrew Schulz]

Here's the other thing. It's like, there's nothing wrong with asking for more money. Like, everybody should ask for a raise. So if the girls want to ask for a raise, ask for a raise.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, it's got to make sense.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think what happens is people might take exception with how they frame it, as if there's some sort of sexism baked in or as if they're not getting what they deserve. But, like, if you just want to make more, you're entitled to go to your boss and ask to make more. What's wrong with that? You might get told no, but, like, we shouldn't be telling people. They shouldn't be able to ask for more money once they start acting like it's a outside cause or they start evoking sexism. Like, I think the women's soccer team, like, evoked sexism in the deal. Then it gets annoying because it's like, guys, what are we talking about here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We live in the most literal, non literal world. What do you mean by that? So you can wear a T shirt that says, pay us what you owe us. And everybody will look at that and be like, but they don't owe you anything. You know what I'm saying? Actually, you're in the red, so, you know, if they pay you what they.

[Andrew Schulz]

Owe you, you owe them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It would be nothing. Like, oh, I saw that. Oh, man, I saw that shit. Somebody said, like, if the NBA Damn. I had this. I actually.

[Andrew Schulz]

NBA pulls funding.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on. If the NBA actually went to the players. You just want to touch me, bro. If the NBA went to the players and. Damn, I just saw this. Oh, yeah. In 2025, the WNBA reported a $40 million deficit. If every player were responsible for covering this loss equally, each would owe approximately $277,000. $277,778. Yeah, if. Yeah, if every player were responsible for covering the loss equally. That's crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

But this is where the girls need to understand it's more than messaging. Like, okay, you have your message, and then what's your justification for wanting more money? And you have leverage. Like, people are watching and people are interested. So now is the time to ask for more for sure. But, like, what's the justification? And right now, none of us can say the justification.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I can say. No, the justification is that the league is more popular than it's ever been, and there's a $2.2 billion television deal coming. So then that's the justification.

[Andrew Schulz]

So then get that money when the deal comes in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I mean, what they want, they literally are just seeking a greater share of the league's revenue. Revenue. That's it. Like, you know, as the league grows in popularity, I don't have a problem with that. Merchandise, you know, ticket sales, I don't have a problem with that. They only make, like, 9.9% of that shit now. That's it. Like, increase it. That's all they're asking for. Increase it.

[Hezekiah Walker]

And technically, they are making more because as the league gets more popular, they're getting more endorsement deals, and so more WNBA players are making more money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, let's be clear. The WNBA is a sure bet. Yeah, it is a sure bet as far as a company that's going to continue to grow and make money and be profitable at some point. It's. It's. It's. I mean, you got. You already got Caitlin. She's only in her second year. You see what she's doing. You see how popular Asia Wilson is getting. You see what Angel Reese is doing. Juju's gonna heal up and be there in a second. Paige Buckets is out there now. Like, it's. There's a real interest in the wnba. There's real eyeballs on the wnba. There's real money coming into the wnba. It's only a matter of time. But to the point we all just.

[Andrew Schulz]

Made, I'm trying to see some signature dildos.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a very young. It's a bear.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a very.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's fire. You get the signature straps. You don't want a signature. You don't want a page bucket strap.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

As crazy as that sounds. That's not like the worst idea.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's a fantastic idea.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta think outside the box or.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Something in a way. When you want, like, the pocket.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I want the page buckets scrap. Because if you're a stud, don't you want to strap your favorite player in the wnba? I want to be strapped up dope. It is dope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It could be the colors of the team they play for with a number on it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Facts, you know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And whatever their number is, that's how many speeds it is.

[Hezekiah Walker]

But that's assuming all of them are lesbian. All lesbians.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not just for everybody.

[Andrew Schulz]

Just get the lesbian one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Not everybody gets a sneaker in the NBA.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

But the top lesbians in the wnba.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The top stud. Yeah, the top stud top.

[Andrew Schulz]

The top studio fire. Yo, tell me that's not fire. If you're a stud. You got a strap. Get a signature strap. Be proud of it. I don't think you should hide that part of you. I think we should celebrate that part.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw some video with a bunch of WNBA players, got denied in the club.

[Andrew Schulz]

That was crazy. I was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's because security was patting them down and they felt the strap. Yeah. And they was like, show me what that is. And they was like, no, that's none of your business. Rightfully so.

[Andrew Schulz]

Rightfully so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's your private strap. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

I saw one girl's playing with it on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why.

[Andrew Schulz]

I did. She forgot to take off the strap. And I was like, yo, the WNBA is must watch tv. I love if they come out there with the straps on. Dude, under the shorts. The straps on hanging down below the short. Put the short shorts on. Just got the head hanging down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They should do that shit to be funny. Cause you know I was laughing, right? You saw when. Motherfucking. When the Indiana Fever had won, like that mid term, that mid season championship. I can't remember what it's called. And they were all playing on live and Kaitlyn was bent over, but then Sid Colson came up behind her.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Like, what the fuck did Sid hit her with? Yo, that was a Strat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. Like, she jumped like. Oh, shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

Hey, what's going on over here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the fuck?

[Andrew Schulz]

Sid? Unlock that. Yo, unhook that shit. Sid, come on. You can't be playing with that. That's dangerous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think if men can play with it, women should be able to play with it. I think that's just fair. Men can play with what if we have one naturally strapped onto us?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's different though, that shit. The straps ain't. The straps be cheating because them shit is always hard. You know what I'm saying? They big as fuck, you know what I mean? Our shit at least gets flaccid. Now, that's the type of scrap that nobody's major, but it depends.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, if you're that gay basketball player. The seven footer has the twin brother who. God, what was his name? I think he played for, like, the Nets.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I know you're talking about the one that ASAP Rocky was. Did that crazy ass beat. Oh, what was his name?

[Hezekiah Walker]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't remember his name.

[Andrew Schulz]

Man got a twin brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You talk about that. But you know what, though? How come nobody's made the strap on that is like a. That's like a mood ring. I'm serious. So it's flaccid until you get excited. When you get excited, when you get happy, then that, like. Maybe it's like your body temperature causes it to pop, pop.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

Nike. Nike. Come on, stop playing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, man?

[Andrew Schulz]

Nike, stop playing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, man?

[Andrew Schulz]

You have the signature strap. That's a mood ring. That shit gets hard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go, Reebok. That's how you come back. That's your new pump. Remember how they used to have the pump in the sneakers?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, the Ree Cock.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Re Cock pump. You better pump up the fucking strap.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I think that's a real thing because.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Reebok needs it, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, Reebok hasn't had a sneaker.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Reebok needs it. Everybody. Yo, every sneaker that we used to call skips is hitting New Balance. Killing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Asics killing.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

That's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nike and Reebok is, like, right now, Adidas is even. Fire. Adidas been fired over Adidas. That's Pharrell doing fire.

[Andrew Schulz]

Puma even got a little couple.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Puma been cooking Puma. What the was that?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know.

[Hezekiah Walker]

You talking about Brook Lopez?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, man. No, no, no, no. He has a twin brother, Rob.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All you got to do is Google gay Brooklyn Nets player Alex.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know if he played for the Nets, but he's he did play for the Nets through the ASAP Rocky meme. That's the one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on. Gay like it's a good friend of mine. He stands up for everything he believe in.

[Andrew Schulz]

As far as everybody being equal color. Homosexuality doesn't matter if you gay. You know, he just points and he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just pointed at the guy, man. For no reason. Jason Collins.

[Andrew Schulz]

Collins. Jason and Jaren Collins. Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jason Collins, man. Both of them were gay.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, one of them is. Which sucks for the other brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It could be worse. They could have been Siamese twins. Shit could have been way worse, bro. Being the gay Siamese twin. God damn. And share one butthole.

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no.

[Andrew Schulz]

No means no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

To tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If we made $15 bills, but it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Turns out that's very illegal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a [e-mail] Switch upfront payment $45 for a three month plan equivalent.

[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

New customer offer for first three months only. Speed slow after 35 gigabytes of networks busy. Taxes and fees extra. See mintmobile.com Salute to my guy, Ray J. Man, I just got off the phone with Ray J, and we was laughing and joking about some shit, but people think we hate each other.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me and Ray J.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause I gave him donkey of the day for the shit with Sexyy Red. And you know Ray J didn't like that. And then, you know Ray J be under Breakfast Club comments, talking shit. And then it's just like, he'll call me. Like I called him. Just. I called him today and was like, what's up, bro? He was like, so you do care. He was like, I just wanted to know you care, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Ray J's like, top three funniest people in hip hop, man. Listen up there, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's two people that I want and have to do a curb your enthusiasm style show with, but you don't even need it no more because we got the IRL shit and the screaming now. So there's two people I enjoy watching.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ray J and Tyrese, two of the most unintentionally funny humans you are ever gonna meet. Now, the difference between Ray J and Tyrese, Tyrese is a. He likes to laugh, but he takes himself very serious.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I feel like Ray J's in on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ray J is so in on it. He knows he's. He's so in on it.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's smart, bro. Listen, that interview with Speedy with the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Glasses, he knows exactly what he's doing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Indestructible, Speedy. Indestructible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Try to prank him, prank him, prank them. I said to Ray, I said, ray, man, I let Ray go. He goes, y' all are just too big now. You're just too big. And I don't like it. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about, like, why? Why? I said you should be happy every time you see Breakfast Club. Cause you are very instrumental in the success of the Breakfast Club. He goes, I know, man. I just wanted to know you care. Cause I be leaving comments and don't nobody say nothing.

[Andrew Schulz]

I love it. I love it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you for the phone call. Like, that's my. Yo. I've known Ray. I known Ray J for like 25 years, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I met Ray in like 02 03.

[Andrew Schulz]

Was he funny back then too?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was he always yo, the first time I met Ray, he came to Hot 103.9 in Columbia, South Carolina. I took him to go buy weed. He's always been this person. Ray has never not been a ridiculous human being. He's actually funnier than people even know. Ray should do a one man show or something. Remember when Tyson had that one man show on Broadway? Ray needs to do something like that. Ray J is a hilarious individual who also understands the media. Honestly, he totally gets it.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a really fantastic idea, actually, because he's played a role in all these really transformative events for like hip hop culture in America. Like, and him going through each one of the stories. Like on some Forrest Gump.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like him. The Breakfast Club story, obviously, with the Kim Kardashian tape. Like, him going through all these instrumental events to get us to where we are today. That'd be a great woman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not even exaggerating when I say this. Ray J has been responsible for some of the greatest cultural institutions we've ever seen.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He set Breakfast Club off. He sets Kardashian Dynasty off.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's a guy. Oh, my God, I can't believe I'm blanking the name. Oh, my God. He's actually funny. He's a hip hop artist. He also just had a show, like a scripted show on Netflix. I'm pretty sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dave. Not Dave. Donald Glover. Oh, Vince Staples.

[Andrew Schulz]

Vince.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

He had a hot take about, like, about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember he's.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that was phenomenal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

He is right. I remember looking at that shit, I was like, oh, wow, he's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I genuinely love Ray J, but he's a person that I'm gonna always hold accountable. He's gonna always hold me accountable. You might see us talking shit to each other in media, but trust me, it is always love. Cause when I'm talking to him, you can't get mad at Ray J. Ray J. I can't get mad at Ray J. Ray J can't get mad at me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When I called him, he goes, well, well, well. He left a comment on the Breakfast Club page, talking shit, and I called you. He was like, well, well, well, you do care, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

It is. It is. It's funny how, like, things play out, play out on social media and people don't really know how behind the scenes, like, we'll know the people that everyone else thinks we're beefing with. And you're talking behind the scenes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, I remember you hit me after Port Portnoy said the tweet out to share the text. I remember you hit me like, yo, what's going on with this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

With this Portnoy? Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I was like, bro, it's. It's kind of like a crazy miscommunication. This is actually kind of my fault. And I mean, so I didn't know how to explain it in one tweet. Right. But basically what happened is, like, he texted me, like, this is like a few days or like a week ago about, like, some Mamdani stuff, right? And we're going over the Mamdani thing. And because he. He thought that I was, like, defending him, I said, the Socialist Democrats are the America First Party. I might even set it here or something. I forgot exactly where it was. But I was like, they're the only part that seems America first because they're actually trying to help the needs of Americans. I was basically trying to be like, yo, Mag is not doing it for Americans. They said they were going to do shit. Now they're in power. They're doing nothing that they said they would do. And the Social Democratic Socialists are actually the ones trying to do help. You might disagree with the policies, but they're actually doing it. So he hits me up. He's like, yo, what are you talking about that, dad? Like, I don't think that these policies are going to work. I'm against these policies, blah, blah. And then I was like, yeah, I understand what you're saying, but they are trying to meet the demands of the people. And we have this great nuanced conversation about it. And then it goes. And I go back on Twitter a few hours later, and I see this tweet where he has this Jamie Dimon quote about, like, you know, my Democrat friends are stupid. Their hearts are in the right place, but they always have these dumb ideas. And he quotes me to. I think that he's referring to Andrew Schultz's comments on Mamdani. So I'm like, the fuck is going on? You Just threw me under the bus. We had this great conversation. I thought, like, why are you going to taking this shit out on Twitter, right? What I don't realize is he tweeted that before we talked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, so I'm tight. Oh, so somebody misconstrued it. Cause they heard what you said and then saw an old post of his and reposted it?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I saw his post two hours later on Twitter, but I thought he posted it after we talked. So I'm like, got you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you. I'm like, why would you do this?

[Andrew Schulz]

We just had a great conversation. So then Sagar is interviewing me on Breaking Points, and he asks about Dave's Mamdani thoughts. So I'm a little salty. I'm like, this guy threw me under the bus even though he did it. So I'm salty. Salty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I just go.

[Andrew Schulz]

I go, man, they don't even care about that. He just cares about the fact that Madani said globalized intifada, and he just cares about Israel. Why is he making this whole. I'm being, like, reductive and dismissive and bringing up points that he did not bring up in our conversation at all. Because I'm annoyed because I thought he threw me under the bus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So then that comes out. And then Dave screenshots our combo, which he shouldn't do. You should never screenshot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't like this.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't ever like that shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So lame.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's fucked up. You should not do it. But I understand where he's coming from. Where it's just like, yo, you said I'm saying these things. This was our convo. I didn't say those things at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So both of y' all just missing each other. Exactly.

[Andrew Schulz]

So I hit him up. I'm like, why the fuck you share a private convo? He's like, why are you saying things I didn't say? And I'm like, why'd you post the fucking Jamie Dimon thing? Credit to me. He goes, I post that before we tweet we talked. I go. I go, well, that's my bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know how to explain that whole thing on Twitter. So I'm just watching millions of views happen. The New York Post is reaching out. All these different people reaching out. And I'm like, I don't know how to comment on this. Cause I don't know how to tell you. It's a complete miscommunication.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, don't get it fucked up too. There was people that was ready for y' all to go to war. Cause they was like, they can take each other out. Let Dave throw a nuke. Andrew throw a nuke. We get rid of both of them. I'm telling you, that's what it was.

[Andrew Schulz]

I said to Dave, I was like, listen, this is my bad, you know, miscommunication here. Like, I don't think you should share the private text. So just text me something right now. Like, the Yankees are your favorite team and I'll post that and then we'll be good. And he's like, yeah, it's not happening. And then it is what it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's what you gotta do. Pick up the phone. Listen, yo, listen. I gave Ray J donkey of the day for some shit a couple weeks ago when him and Sexyy Red had their little back and forth. Whatever, whatever. He immediately hits me. Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

I should have hit him when I saw the Jamie Dimon shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

But that's why I take accountability for it. It's like, yeah, it's on me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And by the way, I should have hit Ray J. You know what I mean? And I know it's a weird thing, man, when you in this space of media, because you still want to comment on everything that's going on, but if you actually have relationships with a person.

[Andrew Schulz]

You gotta hit em up first.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got to, you know. And that's a lesson I keep learning the fucking hard way.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I thought that we had that conversation because we were talking. I was happy about that because I think there's nothing cornier than like when you actually know somebody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

And you can actually reach out and you choose not to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because to me is proof that like, you don't actually want to know what they thought. You don't actually want to know their justification. You're just trying to get some views off that shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

So like, it was just, I think that's the corniest fucking shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, the funny shit about the Ray J shit, when he called me after the donkey of the day shit, he just was like, you're a horrible person and I'm never going to let you forget that. He was like, I don't care how much money you've made. I don't care how much therapy you have done.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. How many crystals you want?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I'm not even joking. He was like, you are a horrible and I will not let you forget that. You cannot just run from the people you've hurt. Charlamagne.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm like, yo, what the fuck are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You even talking about?

[Andrew Schulz]

Very therapized version of Ray today. He was, like, poetic, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He. I'm not.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Was he saying this playfully or he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, he was serious. I'm like, who?

[Andrew Schulz]

Who, Ray?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who have I hurt? He named two people. I was like, one of these people you're lying about, and I've already apologized to this person, and, you know, it was his sister Brandi. And the other person, I don't want to. It was Amber Rose, right? I'm like, I've seen Amber a million times. I didn't know me and Amber had an issue. Like, Amber talks to you behind the scenes. Amber talks to Envy behind the scenes. I didn't know there was an issue. And then he put me on the phone with Amber, and it wasn't really an issue, but Amber just explained to me about back in the day when I. Like, I used to do the whole hall of fame, son, and I put her in the whole hall of Fame. But what I was trying to explain to her was what I was trying to.

[Andrew Schulz]

Some of y' all new listeners, Let me tell you something. Y' all don't even know what it was like back in the day. You don't even know. Honestly, the reason they started silencing free speech is cause of him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What I was trying to explain to her, though, that was a term of endearment. Like, yo. I was like, yo, shut up. No, I want to give her props for being one of the ones that made it. But listen, Amber never told me that bothered her.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Hezekiah Walker]

You know, hasn't she been on the.

[Andrew Schulz]

Show since a million.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've seen Amber a million times, talked to her. We've done TV together, all types of. We so much.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know why this shit made me think of it, bro, but we've.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Done so much stuff together. Like, you know what I mean? Like. And listen. And then, you know, me and Amber started talking. I said, amber, if Whatever. But I did apologize to Amber over the phone. And I said, you know, when you come to Breakfast Club, I'm going to apologize to you publicly. Right? I have no problem doing that. And so Ray J goes, nah, fuck that, all right? If you won't accept my apology from Sexy Red, well, I'm not letting you just apologize to Amber Rose like that. He don't mean it. He don't mean that. And I'm on the phone like, yo, Ray, shut the fuck up. He's like, you shut the fuck up. Like, I love Ray. I'm not even Joking. I love William Ray Norwood Jr. I really do.

[Andrew Schulz]

Some people are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I really do.

[Andrew Schulz]

Some people are so entertaining and funny. It's hard to be upset at them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's hard to be upset at them, man. And Ray know what he doing. And I'm gonna tell y' all something else. Ray is a phenomenal businessman. Scooty bikes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Raycon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Raycon. Now he's got his own network, tronics. Like, Ray J has made a lot of money. Ray J has sold a lot of companies. I'm talking about real money. I ain't talking about no couple dollars. I'm talking about he sold companies for hundreds of millions of dollars. And of course, he got partners and stuff, but he makes a lot of money. And we had a conversation about that just like, you know, years ago. He was just like, you know, he really want people to start taking him serious as a businessman. And I was like, well, you got to start carrying yourself like a businessman. But it's just hard when you are you. Same with me. It's hard when I am me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who cares if people take you seriously? Like, the numbers are gonna decide.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The numbers are gonna decide.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let them underestimate you and then clobber them over the head in the deals.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even want you to know, to be totally honest with you.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's like. That's. That's. To be honest. That's the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll end with this, and I'll end this conversation with this. That's what Ray said to me, because Ray said, charlamagne, the God, the personality, is one thing. Charlamagne, the God, the businessman is another. Just like Ray J, the personality is one thing, and Ray J, the businessman, is another.

[Andrew Schulz]

But they blend into one another, and we can't help that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're media personalities. Shows what we supposed to do.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are we supposed to do?

[Andrew Schulz]

All right, before we go to this, I just have to say I don't know why this reminded me of it, but you were saying the whole hall of fame was just kind of. Of, like, funny. It was just like an honest moment. And reminded me of this Duval post that he posted on Instagram very recently. I will read it. Scarlett Johansson is a beautiful white woman to me. And her tits on Jurassic Park World is keeping me engaged. And I'm not even a tits guy, but hers still perfectly as she shoots at the fish dinosaur.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you see what I left? Did you see the post? You see the comment I left on this?

[Andrew Schulz]

Not what you said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look, look, I saw that this morning.

[Andrew Schulz]

Clay said, take this down. Rip.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Rip. That's right. Clay said take this down, bruh.

[Andrew Schulz]

That shit was so beautiful. Like the way that he explained, like he gotta do a whole paragraph explaining his attraction to one of the most beautiful white women on the planet. He goes, she is beautiful to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The funny thing is Duval said showed me the text of him saying it. Yeah, I could pull up a million text saying, tell Duval take that down. This is the funny shit about Duvall. Duvall be waking up in the morning high, yo. It's like, yo, stop putting your inside thoughts on social media. The caption is worse than the tweet.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what he said. What's the caption he put?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She's so raw. And I don't care if Dr. Umar see this either. Somebody put me. Somebody put me down with her. Just found out she was married. Nevermind. Unless she cheats. What the fuck?

[Andrew Schulz]

Duvall, no. Duvall, leave that happy union alone. Colin, he means no disrespect. Colin, he means no disrespect, okay? Scarlet, he means no disrespect.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now this shit was crazy. Duvall described Scarlett Johansson's tits the way Hunter Biden describes crack, bro. He did, man. He said, Scarlett Johansson is a beautiful white woman to me. And her tits on Jurassic World is keeping me engaged. And I'm not even a tits guy. But her still perfectly as she shoots it to fish dinosaur. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. I haven't seen the new Jurassic Park.

[Andrew Schulz]

It makes you want to see a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, no, it don't make me want to notice her more.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's part of seeing it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay. See it in the movie. Duval's in life. Duval's out.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, yo. As she shoots at the fish dinosaur.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, let's pay some bills.

[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

Yo. Very excited to say this. So this. This weekend is the inaugural Hampton's Paddle Classic. We're doing a charity tournament, A paddle. You know how obsessed I am with paddle out in East Hampton at the Hampton Racket Club. And all the proceeds go to this amazing fertility charity, and it's called Baby Quest. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're actually doing something for the community.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah. That's what we're supposed to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what you're supposed to do. But a lot of people don't. They just get on podcast and fucking talk shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

They talk, but they don't actually.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They don't know fucking action. I love this. You know, I love this.

[Andrew Schulz]

And this is a specific. Like, we were very specific with the charities that we chose. Like, I don't want to fall into one of these charities where, like, you give them the money and then 90% goes to marketing. Like, you've heard of these traps with charities. Like, this is all the money is going to helping people have babies that's struggling. They've been struggling for years. So it's an amazing charity. I want you to go check it out. And yeah, I'm just really stoked. We got some great sponsors involved. Longevity Health, Paul street, lovevery, Therabody, Huckberry, Nanit, Coterie, Hexclad, Longevity Health. And yeah, so, like, kids are free. If you guys want to come there. The teams are already. People already bought their team selections and that kind of stuff. And we got some great raffles. But if you want to donate, we'll put a link in there as well, even if you can't be there. But it's for a great cause and there are People that, you know, struggling to get pregnant. Not everybody is in privileged situation. Like my wife and I was where you could pay for that. It's incredibly expensive. So what this does is actually allows those people who want to bring life into the world and people who desperately want to be parents. It gives them that opportunity because of situations they can't control. So I think it's awesome. I'm really excited. I want to continue doing these charity tournaments, like around the world. Like, ideal version would be I go back on tour and then like I have a show on Saturday and then Sunday is like the charity tournament and we could just, you know, do it non stop and give people the opportunity to create some life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The fact you're doing it in the.

[Andrew Schulz]

Hamptons, kind of cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. And that's where the money is.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's why I'm making donations. Better be legit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Go lean on them and give it to the people who actually freaking need it. That's what you're supposed to do.

[Andrew Schulz]

So I'm excited.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love it. I love it, I love it. I think that, you know, we live in a time where, you know, we really gotta depend on each other. You know, I'm an ambassador for the Food bank in New York City.

[Andrew Schulz]

I love that you actually at the Food Bank.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the yo. First of all, that's the best thing. Cause you actually are connecting with people. You know, you can give money, which I do. Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

You could also just talk about it on podcasts and not do anything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. But I like it. I like actually being there with people and talking to them and, you know, seeing what's going on in their world, seeing what makes them tick, seeing what they actually give a fuck about, you know, so, yeah, I was at the Food Bank. We was at the Bronx. We was in the Bronx last week. What's the name of the project? Yes, we were at the Bronx River Cornerstone Community Center. That's where we were. The Bronx River Cornerstone Community center, man. And it was just an amazing event. You know, the kids were out there with their parents. You know, it's summertime, you know, people need something to do. So they're at this camp and, you know, the Food bank was out there doing what they do. Food bank is an amazing program. And the one thing I realized when you talk about these federal cuts that are being made, those are the programs that are impacted by federal cuts like that, you know what I'm saying? So when you see the federal government cutting the money for programs like the Food bank, we really should Step up and donate money to organizations like the Food bank because they're actually out there doing the work. They're actually out there making sure that people are motherfucking eating. So, so go to foodbanknyc.org if you wanna make a donation to the Food bank in New York City. And my other church announcement is I want to shout out Cheryl McKissack. Cheryl McKissack. Daniel. Her new book, the Black Family who Built Two Centuries of Daring Pioneers. That's the. What do they call it? I mean, it's coming out in paperback, but that's just like the advanced copy that you just read. But yes, yes, go get that. If you want to know about a really dope business, McKissick, McKissick and McKissick. Seven, seven generation black owned construction company. And I mean they have, you know, been responsible for some of the dopest buildings that you have seen in our country. So that will be out in August, but you can pre order it now wherever you buy books.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think that there's. I think that like, like express or sharing these stories is really important because I think it's important to talk about historical injustices. It's not saying that we shouldn't also talk about it, but it's also important for people to hear about the success stories, the people that have had life experience just like them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

And it's inspiring, right? Because a lot of times you don't realize you can achieve something until someone just like you does it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Especially when the McKissicks were able to establish this construction company in the mid-1800s.

[Andrew Schulz]

What was happening then?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Slavery, reconstruction. It was a whole lot of shit, okay? And they were able to establish this company in the mid-1800s and still be thriving all these years later, man. Rest in peace. To Malcolm Jamal Warner. My God, if you haven't heard, I don't know where you've been, but Malcolm Jamal Warner died at age 54 after drowning in Costa Rica. He was swimming at. At Playa Grande de Coke. I can't pronounce that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Playa Grande is on the other side of Tamarindo. So Tamarindo is like one of the. The Nicoya Peninsula, I think it is. But it's like one of the. I've been to play Grande. Like I really, I surfed there as a kid. Like the last Tortugas Hotel is probably maybe where he stayed. But like, this is really tragic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tell me about these riptides, man. Because a current pulled him in the deeper water.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm going to tell you Something because I've been caught in one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember that story.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, this is a different one. But. But that was also Costa Rica. But it was a different part. But so my bro got caught in one as well. So basically, luckily we're on like surfboards and. But basically what happens in Costa Rica is the title change is like really severe. You know, like when you go out to Rockaway, whatever, like high tide, the water comes up and then low tide, it's like maybe 20ft or 10ft back. Right. In Costa Rica, the tidal changes feel so extreme. We're Talking about like 100ft of beach goes away on a high tide.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, damn.

[Andrew Schulz]

And there could be no waves during low tide and then high tide because so much water is coming in. There's like real proper, awesome waves. So especially in this beach. Like, I remember being there when it was low tide in the no ways and then high tide. Like some serious. All that moving water can create these things called riptide. So what a riptide is, is like there's these. These waves crashing this way. And somebody who knows a lot better the science in this will probably correct me, but I'm doing my best. Waves are crashing. All that water that's coming in needs to funnel out in a direction. Okay. Because you can't just have water coming in and then going straight back out. So what happens is waves will often break and then sometimes they create these funnels or channels for all that water to move back out. And they create these things called riptides, which are incredibly fast moving water straight out to sea. And you don't realize you're caught in it because it doesn't feel fast. You're just trying to swim against it and you realize that you're swimming the opposite direction that you're going. You're going the opposite direction.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're swimming the.

[Andrew Schulz]

What you're supposed to do when you're in a riptide is swim. Exactly. You swim across. So it's like you're being pulled out to sea. You swim across, you're out of that riptide in 15ft, 20ft, and then you swim back in. But most people don't realize that they're just getting pulled out to sea and they start to swim against it. They get exhausted. And it's a. It's a scary thing, man.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Yeah. When I was young, I got caught in one.

[Andrew Schulz]

What happened?

[Hezekiah Walker]

Luckily, I was. I knew to go to swim.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where were you at?

[Hezekiah Walker]

In Rockway, because I grew up in Rock.

[Andrew Schulz]

He grew up in a beach community. So like he's.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I grew up in Far Rock.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, he's a surfing beach community. So you learn about these things at a young age. But, but yeah, it's like a really. I don't think people realize how severe it can be and how, how quickly you can be in harm's way without anybody really realizing it. Because it's not like you're, it's not like you're bobbing up and down in the water and the lifeguard sees you. Yeah, it looks like you're kind of just swimming in the ocean like everyone else and then you're so far out that people might not even see you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, man. That's what they say happened in this situation. They said that it's horrible. And I just saw this in the New York Post. They said he was swimming with his eight year old daughter.

[Andrew Schulz]

Did she also pass?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, because, because they said somebody on a surfboard, a volunteer lifeguard, like, let me see, hold on, let me get this right. Yeah. According to police officials, surfers saw Warner and his daughter struggling in the water. A surfer dove in and bought the child back to safety on his board. A volunteer lifeguard then pulled Warner and a second surfer back to the shore where he was given CPR for 45 minutes per the report. Man, yo, that. The reason this hit so hard, man, is because when you think about just being a father and you know, every day of our life we just try to avoid bullshit, right? Like we try to avoid fuck shit that we know may cause us, may cause our lives to be short, you know. You know, we take precautions in a number of different ways, right? Like, I mean, you know, you work out, you, you know, take your supplements, you know, you don't do drugs. Like you avoid certain areas, like all type of, types of different things. You're just on family vacation with your wife and your daughter doing what we all do on family vacation, in the water, swimming, you know, with your baby. And then this happens. It really just had me really thinking about karma and what that is. I think that our idea of karma is all fucked up. How we say things like, you know, if you, you, if you move with good intentions and you put good out in the world, good things will come back to you. It's just like death is just as much a part of life. No, no. Death isn't the opposite of life. It's a part of life.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's the karma. I understand karma in terms of like you're living in your karma, meaning you do bad things. You should be racked with guilt for doing those bad things, and therefore your life will be less enjoyable. Yes, but bad things happen to innocent people all the time. Look at Gaza. You know what I mean? Like, there's nothing that those children did that made them deserve this to happen to them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. War, period.

[Andrew Schulz]

War, period. Right? So it's like, that's. That's the thing where karma feels really tricky and it's hard for people to reconcile because you're like, well, what the hell happened for this to happen like that? Like, how. What justifies this through karma? What justifies the carnage that people experience in war all the time through. Like, I don't think that that's fair at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think karma is either what happens after this. Like, you know what happens after all of this. Like, you know what that afterlife may look like. Our karma is how people talk about you after you're gone. When you talk about a brother like Malcolm Jamal Warner, I only met him twice, you know, when we moved into our new studio, the Breakfast Club studio, back In January of 2023, Malcolm Jamal Warner was literally the first guest in our new studio. If you want to do Breakfast Club trivia, our first guest ever on the Breakfast Club was Ray J. The first guest that started off this new era was Malcolm Jamal Warner. And when you meet him and you listen to him talk, two things stand out. Intentional. He's intentional about how he carries himself, how he shows up in the world. And he was very intentional about his art. You know, he did poetry as well. He won a Grammy, you know, for his spoken word. So he was very intentional about his art. And there. I know when I go, there's gonna be plenty of people that got shit to say about me, right? But I've never heard anybody say anything bad about Malcolm Jamal Warner ever. Like, literally ever. I'm talking about, like, you know, you talk to the PAs that used to work with him on all of these different shows, you know, interns. Those are the people I like to hear from. And all of these people are like, yo, he was the most pleasant person, but you could tell that when you met him, you could tell he was just a very intentional person. And then he came to Breakfast Club again last year. Cause he launched a podcast called Nah, and it was an acronym for Not All Hood. Cause he wanted to show that, you know, black people weren't just all hood, right? And so he was there with his co host of the podcast. And we had a great conversation. We had a great conversation then.

[Andrew Schulz]

And.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, man, like I said, I didn't know him personally, but I just knew that he was a very intentional human who went out of his way to put good things in the world. And I think the karma for that is the way people talk about you when you're gone.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's just. Yeah, I don't think people. It's just unfortunate, you know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, it hit like Kobe to me. And the reason it hit like Colby to me, not because of who they were. Like, forget the status. Like, I'm talking about what they were doing. When I heard the news about Kobe, I was literally in Atlantic City at my daughter's cheerleading tournament. Just like Kobe was waking up on a Sunday morning to go take his daughter to her extracurricular activity, which was basketball. And they met their untimely demise just like, yo, you just doing your regular everyday daddy duties and meet a tragic demise like that. That's like, God damn, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lord have mercy.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's scary, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, yeah, the. The fragility of it. And it's not something that I understood until I had a kid, I'll be honest with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Like, having a kid, you realize how little is in your control. Every time they get up and walk, every time they put something in their mouth, like, every time. There's so little in your control.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Control.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, you have a reasonable amount of control of things that happen to you, but you look at this situation, it's like, there's no way that he could have known that. You don't see a riptide, really. Like, there's just no way. So. But it really puts in perspective how little control you have. And, like, it's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's no overdose on drugs. You didn't get shot. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't a car accident. You out there enjoying nature. God bless. I'm so happy that his daughter, like, reading that story. I'm so happy nothing, you know, happened to his daughter. But that even makes you think, right? It's like. Like, you know, there was another guy who got caught up in the riptide. He lived, the daughter got saved, but he passed away. Like, they pulled both of them out the water at the same time. The. The other. The other surfer, I think it wasn't Malcolm, but he passed away. It's just like, yo, when it's your time, it's your time, and there's nothing you can do about it, man. Like, absolutely, positively nothing. When it is. When it's your time to go, it is your time. And the reason I keep stressing, like, you know, how tragic of an accident it was is because he wasn't doing anything that would cause you to die. Like, if you hear somebody was drinking and driving and they was speeding. You know what I mean? Or somebody got hit by a drunk driving, it's just like, yo, clearly, when it's your time to go, it's your time to go, man. So rest in peace, Malcolm Jamal Warner. That was heartbreaking. What did the Cosby show mean for you, bro? Window.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You didn't watch Coffee Show?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I mean, I did watch it. It's. It's, like, weird. I didn't. I know this sounds weird. Like, I don't think I watched a lot of. I don't think I got into, like, TV shows or sitcoms until, like, much later in life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, so, like, I watch it. I was aware of it, but it wasn't one of these things that, like, curated my. My weekend. Like, I wasn't like, you know, on Fridays. What was that thing? It was like. Yeah, Like, I didn't really follow. Like, I would watch a Saved by the Bell or I'd watch a Beverly Hills now two and a little bit. But I wasn't one of these guys, like, religiously followed a storyline. So it wasn't until I was older that I started getting into, like, a show. Like, I think I watched much more, like, MTV or bt. Like, I was just watching more music.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why you had cornrows, bro. I was into all that shit. My mom, because I grew up Jehovah Witness. On Thursday nights, we have to go to the kingdom hall. Me and my sister was putting that VHS tape in that VCR and recording Cosby show in a different world. Hell motherfucking yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

There was a couple shows that broke through. Like, Martin Jamie Foxx show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's be clear about something.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cosby show didn't break through.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cosby show was the number one television show in the world.

[Andrew Schulz]

I meant, like, broke through to, like, me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, got you, got you, got you, got you, gotcha.

[Andrew Schulz]

And for whatever reason I think it was, it could have been an age thing. Like, I might have been too young when Cosby show first came out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ye.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, I'm 41.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, I was 47. I'm 47. So. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So I think that, like, I think we were a little young for the Cosby show heyday. Yeah. So I think that might have been part of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, I was aware of its significance, but it wasn't like, you had to watch it in the same way that I think Martin was. You had, like, we were talking about it the next day in school.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Martin was. Oh, that's a good point. Martin was very culturally relevant at a time when cultural relevance really, really mattered. Like, Cosby show didn't start embracing hip hop until, like, Eric Alexander's character came and. Oh, what was the other queen's name? Oh, I can't remember her name right now. It was Erica. It was Pam's. Eric Alexander used to play a character named Pam, and it was Pam's friend. Why the fuck. I can't remember right now. But they were like the. They were like the 90s hip hop aesthetic to it. That made you be like, oh, I remember watching.

[Andrew Schulz]

What was the show that was based on. On them going to college.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Different World.

[Andrew Schulz]

I remember watching Different Worlds. Not so much Cosby.

[Hezekiah Walker]

Like, I. I can.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That makes sense.

[Hezekiah Walker]

I could somewhat remember the last episode of Cosby because it was such a big deal. Like, I remember the whole family. Like, oh, we have to watch the last.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Charmaine Brown. That was Pam's friend. Yes. She was played by Karen Molina White. Yes. Yeah, but I get what you're saying. Like, Different World was in. Different World was also more cultural. Different World had Tupac on it. You know what I'm saying? Like, they were wearing the HBCU hoodies and, like, they were dressing like how we were dressing. Like, Cosby show didn't start doing that until much later on, man. But, man, Cosby. Do you. Do you. Do you realize that there was an episode of the Cosby show that had 65 million viewers? You know how famous you had to be in the 80s and early 90s? This was a time when there was three channels, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

But, like, people don't even understand. It's like 65 million viewers is different than getting 65 million views on a tick tock. Oh, I think this is what people don't understand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's like we see views. We see millions of views on, like, a Mr. Beast video. And. And we. It. You have to understand, it's a little different than 65 million households turning on their TV and sitting down and watching a show with commercials. Not 65 million people looking at something for one minute and then scrolling off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Believe it or not, Mr. Beast's niche. I know it sounds crazy to say that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But because he's got multi. Millions of followers. Hundreds of millions of followers, and hundreds of millions of views on videos. Billions of views. He's niche. Malcolm Jamal Warner is universal. Universal.

[Andrew Schulz]

There was, like, to put things in perspective, right. The Marlon Waynes, the Waynes Brothers show that Marlon and Sean did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

If you ask foreigners what their introduction to, like, American comedy was, they will tell you. Shows like Wayans Brothers and like, Ray Romano show, like, some of these shows got syndicated to Europe and Asia, and that was their introduction to American comedy. And, like, I'll talk to people abroad and they'll be like, yeah, that's kind of like where I learned to understand English. And that was at this time where America was, you know, sending out our culture through television. And there was only a handful of show. Like, how many shows were big enough to even do that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

So, like, Friends. Who would go out there? Maybe Seinfeld. But also, Seinfeld was so niche. Like, Seinfeld was like, New York. And it was probably massive, but it was still like New York, white Jewish people. Whereas, like, Marlon and Sean were representing this different thing that the world was curious about. Hip hop music is coming around. They're like, oh, what's going on with American black people? This is interesting. We don't have them all over here. Yeah. So, yeah, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you know how if it. It. The. I'm looking at it now. The second episode of the Cosby show was the highest rated EBL with 60 million viewers. Not the second episode. The season two premiere.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it's insane.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Which was titled first day of school, which aired September 26, 1985. This means all of America. Damn near 60 million people.

[Andrew Schulz]

So think about this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're a star immediately. It's not.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no. You need to understand this. This. It's not 60 million people, Charlotte. It's 60 million households.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right. So there's. I don't know if they could calculate how many people are in the house watching it, but 60 million views is 60 million people swiping on their phone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

60 million households is potentially 180 million people, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, you gotta understand this shit. When, like, Johnny Carson was on and like, I think 50 million people watching, that's potentially 200 million. 50 million houses, that's 200 million people. Potentially. That's the whole country.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody will ever be that famous ever again.

[Andrew Schulz]

Ever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Never.

[Andrew Schulz]

Things are so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe athletes. Yeah, yeah, maybe athletes.

[Andrew Schulz]

But then again, it's like an athlete in a specific sport. What a basketball athlete is in America is not going to be the same in Asia. It's not going to be the same in parts of Europe. What a soccer star is in Europe is not going to be the same in America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's true. Because it's not Ronaldo. It's the other one.

[Andrew Schulz]

Messi or Ronaldo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Messi or Ronaldo. Low key.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I know this is a crazy statement, but I mean this sincerely. Messi and Ronaldo could walk around most cities in America and they would be recognized, don't get me wrong. But like, there are places where you could go and they can't. You can't go and they could.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I, I agree. Like, I get what you're saying, but there's places overseas they can't step out. The hotel pretty much all over. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Speaking of late night.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah. Let's talk about this Colbert drum.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stephen Colbert. Do we have that up, Alex? Stephen Colbert. So Colbert, he's Ozzy Alborn too, man. RIP the only difference between Ozzy Osbourne Pathing and Malcolm pathson. Ozzy was 76, but he looked.

[Andrew Schulz]

He looked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Dealing with Parkinson. Yeah. It is weird, right? Like, you hear Ozzy Osbourne passing, you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, oh, he was a hundred.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. You're like, rest in peace.

[Andrew Schulz]

But you live the life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You live the life.

[Andrew Schulz]

You live the life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Awesome. You like? Whoa. That was a shock.

[Andrew Schulz]

Ozzy been 76 since he had his own show on VH.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was shocked. He was only 76.

[Andrew Schulz]

Say what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was shocked. He was only seventy six.

[Andrew Schulz]

I still didn't hear you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was.

[Andrew Schulz]

What the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was shocked. You treated me like.

[Andrew Schulz]

I was shocked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. You treat me like they used to treat Ozzy on the show. We don't understand you, Ozzy. I was shocked. He was only 76. Are you sober now? No, no. Yeah. I have moments. Rest in peace. To Ozzy Osbourne. Yes. The Late show with Stephen Colbert is ending in 2026.

[Andrew Schulz]

Stephen Colbert, this is your South Carolina brethren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my guy, man. I've been on the Late show probably I think I might be on. I might have been on the Late show more than any guest. I'm not even joking.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think I came to your first appearance, if I'm not mistaken.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think so. I think you were with me.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think I was there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I've been on Late show like seven, eight times. But CBS announced that the Late show with Stephen Colbert will end in May 2026 with the network calling Colbert irreplaceable in retiring the franchise, Colbert revealed the news his audience stating, I found out just last night. Next year will be our last season. The decision to end the show was described by CBS as a purely financial decision. Against a challenging backdrop in late night, unrelated to the show's performance, our content, or any other. What did they say? Any other outside force or something like that. Colbert expressed gratitude to CBS in the audience, saying, I'm so grateful to the Tiffany network for giving me this chair and this beautiful theater to call home. What the fuck is the Tiffany Network?

[Andrew Schulz]

I guess it's like the umbrella that owns. Owns the show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought it was Paramount. I don't know.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, it's probably within Paramount.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, got you. The show, which Colbert took over in 2015, became known for leaning into liberal politics during the Trump era and providing a platform for Democratic politicians. Now, nobody thinks this was strictly purely financial.

[Andrew Schulz]

And can you make the argument as to why it's not purely financial?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, I can make the argument to why it's not purely financial, because Donald Trump has expressed his disdain for Stephen Colbert numerous times, just like he's expressed his disdain for Jimmy Kimmel. And Paramount is looking to be bought by Skydance. And in order for the Skydance merger to go through, it's like an $8 billion merger. In order for the merger to go through, Donald Trump has to approve the merger.

[Andrew Schulz]

The FCC has to approve it. And I think they have this guy there named David Carr, who's basically Donald's guy. And Donald hasn't said, hey, you got to fire him to do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I think. I think he has to. He has to. He has to have a stamp of approval, too.

[Andrew Schulz]

Maybe he does, but the FCC has been holding it up, and they've been claiming they're holding it up because of this lawsuit. Right. And the lawsuit was over the 60 Minutes piece with Kamala and which CBS.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Could have won, which. But they just didn't even try to fight it. Here's the $16 million. And Trump revealed today that it's $60 million, and they're giving him, like, $20 million in advertising or something shit like that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. So basically, I don't know how much we want to go over this, but. But the claim was that they did edit a question. The way that Kamala answered a question, like, she answered it differently on. I think it's like News Nation. And then she answered it differently on 60 Minutes, which is a CVS property.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Both CBS properties, but CBS did release the full transcript with it.

[Andrew Schulz]

So I think what they're claiming is that they edited her answer to make it more favorable. What CVS claims is. It's the same answer to the question, just a different part of the answer.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

And what all people say that are looking at the case is that CBS would have won this case easily.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every legal scholar said that.

[Andrew Schulz]

And most people that are in the news business would fight this tooth and nail. Because what you don't want to do is bend to an administration that is concerned about you criticizing them. Because it's important for the integrity of news networks to not bend. But in this certain situation, Paramount is putting their bottom line in front of the integrity of their business. They're going, we don't care about the integrity of our media business. We want to make this merger happen. We want this sale. So fuck integrity. Let's just settle this lawsuit so we can get this sale through.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's going to watch you if they know that you're a network that has no integrity?

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, now they have new ownership. So maybe this is the new ownership signaling, hey, we're going to be a little bit more favorable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, that meeting happened that week. Who was it? Was it Larry Ellison? Was it Ellison?

[Andrew Schulz]

Larry Ellison's son, David Ellison. Skydance, which wants to buy Paramount and wants to make this merger happen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So met with fcc. Met with the FCC the same week they got rid of Colbert.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, so? So. So there's a few things that are going on here which are interesting. One, CBS or Paramount?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You saw the headline.

[Andrew Schulz]

What is this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

DEI is dead. Paramount, David Ellison, Sky Dance promises fcc.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, so. So there's a few things going on here. Like one, Paramount or CBS did this thing that was dirty, if you ask me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Talk to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is dirty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Talk to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

They released the financials of the show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think they've done that.

[Andrew Schulz]

They leaked it. That's why we know that it was losing $50 million a year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But everybody said that's not real. They say he's losing. He was losing money. But $40 million, whatever.

[Andrew Schulz]

I have on good authority that that's. That's true. But what it doesn't. The point is it wasn't making money. And by all accounts, that's true. Now, there's different reasons as to why. We can talk about that in a second. But the reason they leaked it, in my opinion, is because they're trying to signal, hey, this has nothing to do with getting this deal made. This is just the fact that we have a show that's losing money and we want to get it off the books. But what it feels like the FCC is doing or the Trump administration is doing is leveraging that power that they have to stop the deal from going through in order for them to make that change. And signal to people, hey, if you're not favorable to us or kind to us, then we're going to stop deals from going through.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We call that authoritarian scratch.

[Andrew Schulz]

Absolutely. And it's a horrible precedent to set, especially for comedy. Like any comedians, myself included, that, like, have rallied against censorship and comedy. You can't just let this go through.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Andrew Schulz]

Without criticism. Now, I will say I don't, I don't know if I would tell the Democrats to put all their eggs in this basket. Right. Because the show was losing money. You're not going to convince Trump's base that there is something wrong here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's not just Colbert.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I'm aware. I'm just saying, like, the reason, my point is, like, if the Colbert show was making money and they did it, throw all your eggs in this basket. Perfect example of authoritarian behavior. They have an excuse that will satisfy Trump's base, which is the show's losing $50 million. It's bullshit that you can't cancel a show. So I agree, and that's why I'm telling Democrats, like, I would be hesitant as to how much you want to rally on this specific cause because it's so easily undercut to his base.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or what about pbs? What about npr? What about suing the Wall Street Journal? Murder.

[Andrew Schulz]

I hope it doesn't come across like I'm saying that it's okay that those things are happening because I'm really against those things happening. What I'm telling you, what I'm saying to Democrats is I would be wary of this as a tool to convince, convince disillusioned Trump voters to come back over because they can write it off quickly because the show is losing money. Now here, here's the question, like, one absolutely wrong. If they're putting any pressure on a comedy show or any show in general that is being critical of them. Like, that's bullshit. Like, the essence of comedy is to rebel against institutions.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, I think a lot of what was happening with comics that were in my zone, I guess you could say, is like, we felt like there were institutions that were not allowing us to do comedy the way we want to do it, and we rebelled against that. So the second it happens to the more left leaning comedy, we can't just go, oh, nothing to see here. We also got to go, no, that's fucked up. Like, the whole point of this is we make one of these institutions and then if they don't let us, we make fun of them even more for not letting us. Like, that's in essence like why free speech exists in America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is important shift. What I would hope more than anything, and I think this would be the most badass thing to do, is I wish that Colbert did exactly. Does exactly what we did. We couldn't get on Comedy Central because they had these, like, purity rules for what is okay comedy to do. We went to the Internet, we put out specials on the Internet, we created podcasts on the Internet. We showed that we had a real audience and now look like, I'm doing specials on Netflix, I'm doing movies, I'm doing all these things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We showed one big difference, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I agree. The big difference is like. Like there's a difference between institutional government power and just a comedy network that's saying, oh, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was just gonna say because you're 41 and he's 61.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think that's a good point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

I guess what I'm saying is, like, it would be so badass for me if they're like, we're doing this show and we're gonna do it on YouTube and prove that we're the biggest show, and we're gonna say whatever the we we want and then show that the people actually do want this type of television and these, like, jokes to be made and there is an audience for this. Like, embrace the Internet in the way that we embrace the Internet and prove to the powers that be that they can't silence you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think we're gonna get some of the best Colbert we've seen over the next 10 months. He's been on fire all week. Jon Stewart was on fire on Monday, cooking. But, you know, you brought up the ad revenue thing. Here's the thing, and this is why I say it has to be more than just financial. Right. Ad sales for Colbert dropped from around 121 million in 2018 to 70 million in 2024, and nearly 40% died. That's not just Colbert. It's late night TV, period.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, I think it's period. It's linear in general.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Linear in general.

[Andrew Schulz]

And what we mean by linear is just like TV on tv.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

TV on tv.

[Andrew Schulz]

Colbert has great numbers digitally. Like, if you watch the interviews, he's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got great numbers for TV.

[Andrew Schulz]

Not anymore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

2.5 million viewers. He's the highest rate. No, I get compared to the heyday of late night. Not even close.

[Andrew Schulz]

And the heyday of late night is what these ad budgets are dependent on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's ridiculous, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

40 million. 50 million people. You're not getting that.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, I know. They're not. But what I'm saying is there's a re, like ad revenue goes down when views go down and they are just getting less views than they used to. So naturally the ad budgets are going to go other places. Right. Like, they'll honestly probably go to like, podcasts. Digital.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schulz]

So you have to hold the Colbert show accountable a little bit for not leaning more into advertising or monetizing their digital presence where they do have a huge audience.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hold the Colbert show responsible and Paramount responsible because really Paramount more so than anything. You don't just cancel a show like Stephen Colbert, especially when you still Stephen Colbert. When you're on your quarterly calls and you're talking to your shareholders and you're talking to the revenue people, that's one of the top shows you bring up all of the time, the Late show and how it's the highest rated show on late night. Every single. Every other late night show has made cuts. Jimmy Kimmel doesn't work in the summer anymore. He doesn't work in the summer anymore because of budget. Seth Meyers had to get rid of his band. Jimmy Fallon only comes on four days a week. You know what I mean? They didn't even do anything with the Colbert show.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's a reason why, and a lot of people don't know this. So, like, in order for. To keep Colbert in New York City.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They had Governor Hochel. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So what they did is they didn't want the Colbert, which this late night institution for New York to leave New York. So they made an agreement in order to get tax cuts. So they got these tax cuts that would lower the amount of money that they would have to make profitable. But the exchange with the government was essentially that they had to keep a certain amount of people employed. So they can't fire anybody when you can't fire anybody. Like you just mentioned with those other shows. They fired a lot of people to reduce the cost of the show. They can't do that. And they have seven different unions. The rent in the building is probably astronomical. Like, like you. The Colbert show makes money. Let's say it makes 50 or 70 million dollars a year in ad revenue. It doesn't cost that much money to make that show. It costs that much money to make that show. Where they make it, how they make it. They could downsize this show. They could do this show for 20 million. They did it during COVID Exactly. I wouldn't do that version, but they something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Something a little bit more scaled up, but not too much.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is why I'M saying, like, if they wanted to go after it, and I know Stephen's 61, and maybe he wants to spend time with his family, but if they want to go after it, it and use the Internet, they. The Internet, I think people would respond to this in such incredible fashion, and it would really prove to the powers that be, like, yo, we're not going to be silenced. You could say whatever the fuck you want to say. And we have the platforms available for us to do it now. It's a big undertaking. I get what you're saying about age, but I do think the audience is there, and it would be the most badass, rebellious thing to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, by the way, these guys have made a lot of. Colbert was making 15 to 20 million dollars a year for like the last decade, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's made a lot of money, got a beautiful life in Jersey, a beautiful life in South Carolina. You might just want to hang it up. You might want to go out with a bang the next 10 months.

[Andrew Schulz]

My. My assumption and wrap up. My assumption is they asked him not to announce it for six months because Colbert probably got something in his contract that says that if you're not going to renew him, you need to give him one year advance notice. Most contracts exist like that. So they told him. And then he. And they probably were like, we would really appreciate it if you just wait six months to announce this, and then we can do a great last six months of the show. And he was like, fuck it. And good for him for saying that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shit, because he had just came back from vacation and he shitted on Paramount. He was like, you know, they have a name for what Paramount did with Trump by giving him the $60 million. And it's called Big Fat Bribe. Now, I believe this kind of complicated financial settlement with a sitting government official has a technical name. And legal service circles, it's big fat pride, because you know what I'm saying. By the way, Colbert and Jon Stewart have been on this. I know everybody's just starting to pay attention. This week they been on Paramount to not settle, letting them know what the ramifications of this could be, how it's going to look. Everybody knows it's political. Do you think the same guy who literally just told the Washington Redskins last week, the Washington Commanders, if you don't change your name back to the Redskins, I'm not approving this new stadium.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't fall for all them distractions, bro. Don't fall for the MLK shit. This Ridiculous Obama shit. He's doing, like, all that is distraction.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Epstein boom.

[Andrew Schulz]

And. And I do not want people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And his ankles.

[Andrew Schulz]

I even think that's a distraction.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. You think so?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I think that's. I think all of it is a distraction because he cannot release the Epstein shit because there's incriminating things with him in it. And I don't know if it's incriminating to him. I can't say that. But he's obviously in the files. I think they even the Justice Department told Pam Bondi that he is mentioned in the files.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Files.

[Andrew Schulz]

So he's doing everything he possibly can and the administration doing everything he possibly can to not release the Epstein files. And I think a very important thing for everybody to know right now, and everybody who wants to be like, you had him on your fucking podcast. You did this yet you're fine. Say that about me. That's totally fine. And you're right. He did it fine. Sure. Get that out. Just get all your frustration out, because now we gotta. We gotta move forward. We can talk as long as we want about this. You can say whatever you want about me. But there is a certain point in time where you have a moment where he's not releasing the absent files. He's not stopping the pointless wars. He's increasing the budget. He's doing the three things that he promised his base he would not do. Remember, he ran on institutional reform. Sharla. He ran saying the deep state is stopping us from doing all these things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I'm not gonna let that happen. Well, he has Congress and he has the presidency, and he is doing exactly what the institutions want him to do. So Democrats have this opportunity to be the party of reform and make him the party of the institutions in the status quo. And the reform candidate always wins. But they have to make a choice right now to decide whether they want a finger wag and virtue signal or they want to bring people into their coalition. Listen, get the finger wagon out. Say whatever you want. Say whatever you want about me. Say whatever you want about everybody. I'll take it. I don't care. But there's an opportunity now to bring people in to win an election, and you cannot do that if you want to spend time virtue signaling finger.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree. I think after you say I told you so, now you got to figure out what we do next.

[Andrew Schulz]

There we go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, the fact that the House.

[Andrew Schulz]

Bro, this was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The House shut down for the summer.

[Andrew Schulz]

So they didn't have to vote. So they didn't have to vote on releasing Epstein file.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On releasing the Epstein files. Think about that for a second.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is pure corruption.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So listen, I'm an American citizen. The House, the place where they go to vote on different legislation, things that help American people have to shut down for two months just so they don't do a vote on the Epstein file.

[Andrew Schulz]

And for all the people out there saying what Epstein thing is a nothing burger, the Epstein thing is another. If it's a nothing burger then why are they shutting down Congress? So they don't have to release.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Give me nothing with cheese.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thank you 100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even eat cheese.

[Andrew Schulz]

And this is the thing about Dems right now. The Republican base is not supportive of Trump right now because he is rejecting all the things he promised to them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What have I been saying for months, Andrew? We know Republicans are gonna fumble but Democrats don't have the team to recover the ball.

[Andrew Schulz]

Listen, they don't have the team to recover.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's right there.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but we could see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Remember when Cam and the super bowl did like this and backed away from the football? Remember what Cam Newton did? That's what they're doing. Right? It's right there.

[Andrew Schulz]

But here's the thing. Thing. They are putting pressure and Republicans are also putting pressure and there's this bipartisan support amongst the people, not amongst the politicians. They're all protecting the fucking pedophiles and they're protecting all the corruption. Both sides by the way. But the people want this thing and I, if I'm anybody that's like in politics right now, I am being unrelenting on this shit. I am telling Democrats do not take your foot off the gas. Don't take the bait. Don't take the Obama bait. Don't take the Redskins baby. Don't take any of this bullshit bait he's gonna throw out. Stay on Epstein, stay on Epstein because his base is pissed about Epstein as well, bro.

[Hezekiah Walker]

All they gotta say is Trump is protecting pedophiles.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's it.

[Hezekiah Walker]

That's it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We had this whole conversation last week. There is no other issue for Democrats to be talking about right now because it is the bridge between them and the support of Trump supporters. Them and the support of maga. It's the one bipartisan issue. Everybody motherfucking agrees on that. Let me tell you something else. This is my personal opinion. This is who is going to end up being the heroes in all of this. Republicans. And I'm going to tell you why. This is my personal opinion. I think they lining Trump Up. I think that there's Republicans and powers that be that want their party back. They see how this guy is not good for the world, right? Especially the economy. And they're like, this is our opportunity to get them out. Cuz they're making a show of it. A couple weeks ago, House Speaker Mike Johnson was like, you gotta release the Epstein files. Now all of a sudden we're taking. Who lets people know we're taking the summer off so we don't have to bring the Epstein files.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why do they get the summer? They're not teachers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andrew Schulz]

We still need laws in the summer. Like, I didn't even know. They got to take a break.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're putting the bat signal in the sky for everybody to just keep piling on, piling on, piling on about the fd. Who do they say? They say JD Vance went to go.

[Andrew Schulz]

Meet with Rupert Murdoch. And then was it Rupert?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I actually had a look that up, Alex. I can't remember. J.D. vance went to go meet with somebody. My point is, I feel like this is a ploy by the GOP to lead a coup against Trump now. And when they get him out, right? And they're the ones that they can throw him to the wolves. All the old Democrats in there, they love to throw them to the wolves. Just everybody gotta go. Now they look like the heroes now. They look like the party that spoke truth to power, the party that stood up to the pedophiles.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, I don't care which party does it, but we need that shit to come out. Like, it's absolutely absurd. But to your point right now, who released?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who released. Okay, so J.D. vance just hit up Rupert Murdoch and his son Lachlan at their Montana Rams. Okay, this meeting was. What is this ChatGPT? Do you ask ChatGPT to speak like Ebonics?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's hilarious. Can I read to you? This is Alex's ChatGPT response. He goes, what did JD Vance. What did you ask it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said, who did JD Vance recently meet with?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo. And this is the ChatGPT response from Alex. Okay, yo, JD fans just hit up Rupert Murdoch and his son Lachlan at their Montana ranch. The meeting was low key, no heads up, and lasted a few hours. Right after the Wall Street Journal dropped a wild story about Trump and Epstein. Trump's now suing Murdoch for $10 billion. Now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And this came from the Economic Times. Now listen here, Murdoch owns the Wall Street Journal.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what I want to say. So to your Point about Republicans pushing him out. Right. Trump had a stranglehold over the Republican Party that the traditional, like, neocon Republicans did not like, but they had to get on board because. Because Trump really galvanized the entire base. What's interesting is Rupert Murdoch owns Wall Street Journal, which released that doodle that he sent to Epstein, allegedly, so we don't get sued.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna be honest with you.

[Andrew Schulz]

I didn't believe that, though, that he didn't do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know why? Because it seemed too warm. When has Trump ever been that warm, bro? Yeah, it just seemed too warm now. Now, unbeknownst to me, he does doodle a lot. I didn't know. I didn't notice. I saw the Daily show the other day and they were showing all his old drawings and stuff, but it just seemed too warm.

[Andrew Schulz]

I would like to see a picture of it, too. I think that that's weird that they didn't show the picture. But regardless of this, the point is Rupert Murdoch, who also owns Fox News, Right. And I think that John was making an interesting point where it's like, Trump isn't even loyal to his loyalists. And it's like. But no, I would look at it the opposite way. Way I would go, Rupert is making a move on Trump. Yes. And to your point, Rupert, who is, I think, to say what John was saying, who's been glazing Trump on Fox, is seemingly pivoting to. Nah, you might be in on this and maybe a lot of other people are in it, but it looks like they're making Trump the sacrificial lamb.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The sacrificial lamb. Because if it's Trump and some other Republicans they can get rid of, and some Democrats, you know, they can get rid of, they don't give a fuck, yo. And this come out clean.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is where we need to. This is where we need to be completely honest. It's like if you are Trump's base and you fucking rah, rah, rah for Trump, if you find out that he's involved in this shit, there is no. There is no justification that you could possibly think of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, none.

[Andrew Schulz]

There is no justification you could possibly think of. I'm sorry. Like, there is nothing you could possibly say that will be. That will make any of this okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

None.

[Andrew Schulz]

And this is the moment. And this is why I think it's important to put pressure. Like, if you care about America, I don't care about parties. You know what I mean? And I understand people. Oh, you're from the party. I get it. I Get it, get it all out of your system right now. We have to focus on what is best. I was maybe stupid to believe that he was going to stop the foreign wars. Maybe I was stupid to believe that he was going to put out the Epstein shit. Maybe I was stupid to believe that he wasn't going to blow up the budget when he's saying Doge is going to drop it down and we're going to do all this amazing work. Work. Maybe Elon was also stupid to believe that maybe a lot of people, it's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

70 plus million people that were.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, fair enough. So I'll take that. I'll take that. But after taking it, I'm not just going to sit here in silence. Is that what you want me to do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You shouldn't just like Democrats shouldn't have just sat back and watched old man Biden for 40 years like he wasn't seen on.

[Andrew Schulz]

He shouldn't have fucking covered it up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is what you do when the person you voted for, I don't care if you voted for him or not, but if you voted right, once that person becomes president, they are the president of all Americans. I feel like it's more powerful hearing Trump critique from the people who voted for him. I think it's more powerful coming from Rogan. It's more powerful coming from you. It's more powerful coming from Candace Owens. Cuz now it's like these are the same people who platformed them. So now I'm gonna listen to them if they're telling me some fucked up shit is happening. I always used to say if you lie to people about Democrats, they won't believe you about Republicans. It's the same thing here. If you lie to people about Republicans, they won't believe you when you tell them about Democrats. All you're doing is telling Americans what the fuck is going on in America. Yo, we got got cool. But this shit he doing right now isn't what he motherfucking told us that he was going to do. And this shit is fucked up. What are we going to do about it?

[Andrew Schulz]

I'll tell you what. I think that the Democrats got a low key star by the way. Oh, this sounds like I'm setting you up. I promise I'm not. Do you know who John Ossoff is or also.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh yeah, from Atlanta.

[Andrew Schulz]

From Georgia.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

From Georgia.

[Andrew Schulz]

I want you to watch this thing that he did recently. I want to watch this speech.

[Hezekiah Walker]

We want to continue because we're at our 50s.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, let's watch it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's Go and watch it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, this is good. I want you to watch this John Ossoff speech that he did. So he's a Democrat from Georgia.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Keep in mind, you got an office in 20. No. Yeah, 20. 20.

[Andrew Schulz]

Here you go. Ready? This is a Democrat from Georgia. Now, keep in mind a couple things about this one. America loves Southern Democrats. There's something about the south where I think the south trusts a Southern Democrat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A little bit more than wholesome, a.

[Andrew Schulz]

Liberal elite from New England or some shit. Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. We've had John on Breakfast Club before. We had him on. Yeah, we had him on Breakfast Club when he was running for senator. Georgia. And I think he's been on like one other time.

[Andrew Schulz]

There it is, right here. Okay, go.

[E]

Even before he came on the scene. See, I get why people voted for him. Because even before he came on the scene, America had the most corrupt political system in the Western world. It's been running on corporate money, secret money, billionaire money, both sides. And it's worse than ever now. Citizens United was the worst court decision in modern American history.

[Andrew Schulz]

Boom, Boom.

[E]

And when members of Congress aren't begging for money from lobbyists, they're trying to dodge getting carpet bombed by these stories, super PACs, senators get threatened every day with millions and millions of dollars of attack ads over the votes that we take. And see, this is why nothing works for ordinary people. It's not because of woke college kids or trans students or because there are interracial couples in cereal commercials. It's because the people's elected representatives don't represent the people. They represent the donors. And that corruption is why they just defunded nursing homes to cut taxes for the rich. Corruption is why you pay a fortune for prescriptions. Corruption is why your insurance claim keeps getting denied. Corruption is why hedge funds get to buy up all the houses in your neighborhood, driving you out of the market, and then your corporate landlord ignores your your calls during a gas leak. Corruption is why that ambulance costs $3,000 after you just had to get your choking toddler to the hospital. So Trump promised to attack a broken system. I get it. Ripe target. But here's the thing. He's a crook and a con man, and he wants to be a king. Yes, the system really is rigged. But Trump's not unrigging it. He's re rigging it for himself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree with every single word he said.

[Andrew Schulz]

That motherfucker looks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree with every single word he said.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's handsome and he's doing something that's really important. He's calling out his own side.

[Alex]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

I tell this people all the time. You trust the waiter that tells you that the halibut sucks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

You need to know that that waiter is going to tell you the truth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

The waiter that recommends the most expensive dish on the menu you don't trust at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

At all.

[Andrew Schulz]

He calls out how it affects Democrats as well. So now I go, oh, wow, this guy isn't just doing some bullshit. He's calling out the real problem in the system, which is money in politics.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you listen to the Brilliant Idiots podcast, you, elected officials and government officials, we've given you the blueprint.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I been telling y' all for months, the next person from the Democratic Party, the future of the party, has to throw the old regime under the bus. It's really just that simple.

[Andrew Schulz]

Been saying this nonstop, and you can get a lot of fucking criticism for it. And you will never get celebrated when they actually do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Never.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm just gonna let you know. Never get all the criticism, and they'll act like it never happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Never. Yeah, well, I'm not gonna. When I was on Daily show last night, I definitely bought it back up, though. I had to, because I was talking. But the point I was making on Daily show last night was that, you know, they're trying to distract you by bringing up this. This Joe Biden is old shit again. And, yo, there was a bunch of motherfuckers who lied about that. I wasn't one of them. Right. And then, you know, I was like. But, you know, if you want the opportunity to call out another old president, here you go. Right? Because Donald Trump physically and mentally ain't looking too good right now.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know if that's the argument.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I would make, but, bro, this guy's ankles look like he got Chris Christie in his socks. What are you talking about? What are you fucking talking.

[Andrew Schulz]

I just don't know if that's the thing that's gonna get the basics.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, no, I'm with you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that you just.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's an issue about age.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Daily show audience is how young the girls were. Yes. The Daily show audience is different because they're an audience that actually pays attention to politics. So you can be nuanced and talk about a bunch of things at one time, but for the masses. Epstein. Epstein, Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Because Epstein is literally what brings people in the door. Now, like Jon Ossoff is doing. I can show you how. This guy, he didn't stop the war, so. Right. He's still taking the money from corporate donors, Right? He's cutting your Medicaid. I can show you all of these other things he's doing. And you'll believe it now because now you finally believe he's a liar. All it take is, by the way.

[Andrew Schulz]

Even worse than a liar is he is upholding the institutions that he swore to take down in the first administration. Worse in the first administration. He got to say, I want to make these changes, but the Democrats own Congress, they won't let me. Now there's nothing stopping him. He can release the Epstein files. He's not doing it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

He can stop the wars. You can't stop Ukraine because Putin's a fucking psychopath and he just will continue to take it. But like Gaza, you could stop right now. He's not doing it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

So. And obviously, with the big beautiful bill, the budget, like shutting down DOGE or just making DOGE focus on USAID instead of the Pentagon budget or whatever these things are. And again, I don't know enough about the money in the Pentagon. I don't know how important it is that we develop these new military weapons to protect ourselves. So I don't want to, you know, speak out of turn about that. But my point is there are things that he spoke to his base, his base cared about, and then there are things he spoke to people who are not his base that I really cared about. I was tired of fun in these, these wars when you got people in America struggling, dude. And that resonated. I wanted to know what happened with Epstein. And I don't like the idea that there are potentially government officials involved in covering up a pedophile ring. I don't like it at all. I want to know about that shit. And when you, when you backtrack on those promises, it's gonna make people enraged. And then it exposed what you were saying. Like, well, if he could lie about this, what else could he potentially lie?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because nobody. Because you have a base of people who don't believe he's lying.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? And they haven't paid attention to all of the lies. So now that you've got him caught in one, let me show you all the others. Cuz he don't even, by the way, he doesn't even lie. Good. When you actually pay attention to him. And the fact that he just finds a way to blame Democrats and Barack Obama for everything is hilarious.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's how I knew that they were desperate. He treats them like ROC Nation out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He treats them the way the culture treats Roc Nation. You see what my T shirt says, right? Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Blame Rock Nation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blame Roc Nation.

[Andrew Schulz]

The album didn't sell. Blame Roc Nation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blame Rock fucking Nation. Okay? Blame Roc Nation for every motherfucking thing. That's the way he treats Democrats and Obama. Obama is his Jay Z and Democrats are his Roc Nation. Hillary Clinton is his Desiree Perez. I'm serious. Blame them for everything. Yeah, we'll be back next week, man. As always. You wanna do some mathematicians or no?

[Andrew Schulz]

What do you think we do it afterwards or.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we do it if we have time. Eh, nah, we've been here for two hours.

[Andrew Schulz]

Fair enough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brain. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the Brilliant Idiots Podcast. Thank you for listening.