(S)oy Vey

Summary

The Brilliant Idiots — “(S)oy Vey”

Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God, Andrew Schulz
Date: October 24, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the hot-button issues of affordability, rent, and housing in New York City—framed by the current mayoral race. Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz, along with their crew, break down the candidates, the challenges of living in NYC, and why affordability, especially rent, is the heart of the debate. They reflect deeply, with signature wit and tangents, on what makes New York special, who should solve its problems, and where the city (and cities like it) go from here. The second half of the episode shifts into broader pop culture, the shifting podcast landscape, and characteristic banter about masculinity, vulnerability, and life’s embarrassing moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Affordability & The NYC Mayoral Election

(03:33 – 14:33)

• The hosts joke about "becoming communists" and riff on the new political landscape with Zoran Mamdani entering the race.
• Big Theme: The only thing NYC voters care about is rent affordability.
  • Schulz: “Whatever candidate said they were going to lower the rent the most was going to win, bro. That’s it.” (03:05)
  • They explore why out-of-towners don’t understand how extreme NYC rent is, with average rent up 90% in 6 years.
  • Historic call-back: Jimmy McMillan—the “rent is too damn high” guy—was the first to ride this wave of populist sentiment.
• The conversation expands beyond NYC—other cities like Charleston and Dallas are feeling similar affordability pressures, albeit at different scales.

2. Zoran Mamdani & Populist Messaging

(07:07 – 10:51)

• Parallel drawn between Mamdani’s rent freeze pitch and Trump’s “Build the wall”—both wield simple messaging that cuts through the noise.
• Schulz: “Freeze the rent is build the wall.” (07:58)
  • Mamdani’s plan: freeze rent on stabilized units (about 50% of apartments), build 200,000 units in 10 years (subject to political and financial hurdles).
  • Charlamagne: “When he gets asked [about the plan] at the debate, he never has an answer.” (08:29)
• The hosts puzzle over the feasibility of these ideas, noting obstacles in legislation, finance, and actual buildable space.

3. Why Is NYC So Expensive—and Is It Worth It?

(14:12 – 21:21)

• They debate the intrinsic value of paying NYC prices.
  • Andrew: “You’re paying for access to the city, not just your little cube.” (17:26)
  • Charlamagne: “Where is the enhancement? This shit should look like Dubai, bro.” (16:09)
• NYC’s unique magic in their eyes: true diversity, both economic and ethnic, and the energy/culture of close proximity. But is this fading, especially with rising costs and the Internet making experiences and culture ubiquitous?
• Alex: “The biggest threat to New York outside of affordability is the internet.” (21:52)
• Remote work allowed people to explore other places, prompting real questions about what NYC offers that can’t be found elsewhere.

4. The Politics of Housing Supply

(31:21 – 33:18)

• Schulz sharply contends that only allowing more supply will lower rents—developers need fewer restrictions.
  • Schulz: “The only way you get around the rent issue is by having more. It’s supply and demand.” (32:23)
• They debate government vs. private sector roles in housing, referencing historic public housing failures and developer influence.
• Creative (and outlandish) ideas emerge, including turning coastline into new real estate (barges, landfill) and the limitations and environmental concerns raised by such approaches.

5. Shifts in Podcasting & Media Distribution

(37:36 – 44:47)

• Discussion of Spotify & The Ringer inking a deal to move shows off YouTube and onto Netflix.
  • Schulz: “It’s a great deal for The Ringer—they don’t lose much.” (37:57)
• Analyze if video podcasts can succeed on Netflix, what audiences expect in terms of production value, and whether this move signals the end of traditional late-night TV talk shows.
• Schulz points out Netflix is testing if people will watch inexpensive, long-form content over expensive blockbusters.

6. Pop Culture & Banter

(53:02 – 62:22)

• Calls for Lisa Leslie to become WNBA commissioner—focusing on the value of ex-players running leagues.
• Playful back-and-forth on Jewish identity, commissioners in sports, and the archetypes in American leadership.
• Reflection on what makes for a “generational political talent,” debating Obama, Trump, Clinton, and the applicability to Mandani.

7. Masculinity, Vulnerability, & Embarrassment

(74:44 – End)

• Listener questions spur self-deprecating stories about parenthood, man titties, and the little humiliations of life.
• Advice for young men in confusing times, and thoughts on “what emotion would you erase from humanity?” with envy winning as the most toxic.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On NYC Rent:

• “Apparently in New York City, rent has gone up 90% in six years for two bedrooms.” – Andrew (03:35)

On Simple Political Messaging:

• “Freeze the rent is build the wall.” – Andrew (07:58)
• “Trump said I won the election off one word—groceries. Mamdani’s like, ‘I’m winning off one word—affordability.’” – Charlamagne (08:17)

On New York’s Culture:

• “What makes New York amazing is you have billionaires to pay for all the expensive shit and poor artists to make everything cool.” – Andrew (14:12)
• “If you have only artists, you have Portland… if you have only billionaires, you have San Jose — nobody wants that.” – Andrew (14:43)
• “Why doesn’t New York look like Dubai?” – Charlamagne (16:09)
• “There is just an energy on the street in this city that is unlike any other place…” – Andrew (23:10)

On Internet & Culture Shift:

• “The biggest threat to New York outside of affordability is the internet... my kids are consuming the same culture as somebody in Arkansas.” – Alex (21:52)

On the Netflix Podcast Deal:

• “A movie costs $200 million. Why not spend a few million on a podcast people watch every week?” – Andrew (39:04)
• “If it’s there [on Netflix], it’s there and people will watch it.” – Andrew (46:19)

On Political Talent:

• “Mandani isn’t the Obama-level talent people think he is” – Chris (60:00)
• “The best politicians — a hoe.” – Charlamagne (62:32)

On Masculinity & Humor:

• “You know how you know man titties are so embarrassing? People that wear shirts in the pool.” – Charlamagne (77:42)
• “Yo, leave people alone. You can’t leave people alone — cause it’s funny!” – Charlamagne (80:08)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Main rent/NYC politics: 03:33–14:33
• The “rent freeze” debate: 07:07–10:51
• Why live in NYC? 14:12–21:21
• Podcasting & Netflix/Ringer deal: 37:36–44:47
• “Affordability” vs. socialism: 60:33–62:22
• Listener ‘Ask an Idiot’ segment: 70:18–80:21

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Tone & Style

The hosts’ signature mix of sharp analysis and comedic irreverence infuses the entire show. They roast each other, riff on politics and society, and move fluidly between serious discourse and outright silliness. The episode leans into classic “Brilliant Idiots” territory—a mashup of brilliance and idiocy, insightful social critique, and raunchy barbershop banter.

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For Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

If you want to understand the mood of young, urban New Yorkers frustrated by affordability and politics, this is required listening. The episode breaks down not only the mayoral race, but the underlying cultural and economic anxiety driving it—all from the lived experience of folks who see the best and worst of city life. The second half’s discussion on the shifting podcast and media landscape captures a moment of transition for how content might be produced and consumed in coming years.

And, as always, you’ll laugh—at both the world and yourselves.

Transcript

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Charlamagne the Guy Andrew Schultz the Art of Growing Idiots podcast. Heather Kyowalka Louis, what's happening?

[Andrew Schultz]

Chilling, my man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How your week been, man?

[Andrew Schultz]

Week's been good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A lot of changes in seven days. What the has happened, bro?

[Andrew Schultz]

We're communists now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Zoron got you.

[Andrew Schultz]

He got us. He flipped you. He got us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, tell me what you like about Zoron.

[Andrew Schultz]

We're communists, bro. You know, we believe in that. We believe in all that communist stuff. Yeah, I'm praying five times a day. I don't know what other you know. I'm praying five times a day. I stopped eating pork. I'm doing all the communist shit that you're supposed to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know what the fuck that means.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm trying to tell my wife we're getting another wife. I'm a communist now, bro. I believe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I believe.

[Andrew Schultz]

It turns out communism. Not that bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like Zoron's messaging. His messaging has always been affordability. And he stays on message. He doesn't let anybody take him off message, bro. Watch the New York City debate. Isn't it a debate tonight? Record.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's another one. Yeah, there's another one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I watched the debate last. What was that? Last Thursday?

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I'm telling you, y' all sleeping on big Curtis though, on Sleever.

[Andrew Schultz]

Someone said, someone said the. The other Curtis that got shot five times.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Curtis though, but I don't know. I don't have a dog in this fight. Who are you voting for?

[Andrew Schultz]

Who am I voting for? That's a good question. I'll be honest. I'm a New Yorker. We don't vote in mayoral elections. Is that's mostly people who like, move here. Yeah, but if you're born and raised in New York, you usually don't do that until you become like, you know, your father's age.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So when I'm like probably 50 or 60, I'll start voting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I don't know. I think a lot of people are making this election about. About something that's not like I see, I see all this conversation about, oh, this is. It's gonna be Muslim in the city or the city's gonna fall apart and city's this. And it's like, this election is not about socialism or anything like that. It's like whatever candidate said that they were going to lower the rent the most was going to win, bro. That's it for that is the only. So it's not like, well, they're embracing socialism. If Curtis Lewis said that he's going to pay for everybody's rent for a year, he would win affordability.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who is talking to America's pockets?

[Andrew Schultz]

But specifically rent, anything? No, no, no. Because New York is a little bit different. I was looking up statistics. Apparently in New York City, rent has gone up 90% in six years for two bedroom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I believe that 90%. I believe that this shit right here would be three, $3,500 in the city.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, easy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This little room where the bed is right there. The bathroom's right there, son.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like, so. So what? I think a lot of people around the country don't realize, right. They're just seeing this and like, oh, they're seeing free buses and free this. Nobody's stressing out the free buses. Like, yeah, it's probably nice if shit is free. The free childcare is key, don't get me wrong. But more than anything, it trickles down from your biggest expense, which is rent. Half of New Yorkers monthly paychecks go to rent.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you know that? You know, you know that he needed to give what's.

[Alex]

What's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My man, that was saying the rent was too damn high. Remember that? Remember Black Santa? Because our children can't afford to live anywhere. Nowhere. There's nowhere to go. Once again, why you said it. The rent is too Damn. Yeah, that the rent was too damn high. Guy through bro. Yes, he absolutely did.

[Andrew Schultz]

New York eccentric. A real New York eccentric. But. But yeah, the rent is too Damn high guy was this like obscure political figure in New York that actually got popularity because people were feeling that push.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jimmy McMillan is.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, Jimmy McMillan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was running for the name of.

[Chris]

His party was the Rent is Too Damn High. So he started it all.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like, I think the rest of the country doesn't realize this. So it's like the rent is so astronomical in New York and has increased so fast that people just need a lifeline. And they're in this situation where it's like, if someone doesn't help me out, I gotta move outta New York.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But here's the thing. You're right. But the rent is too damn high everywhere. And what I mean by that is in New York, it's astronomical, right? But rent prices have gone up in places like South Carolina too. So you might move to South Carolina and pay significantly less because you're a New Yorker. But in South Carolina, they're like, God.

[Andrew Schultz]

Damn compared to what they make. You know what I'm saying? Well, that's cause some asshole is bulldozing all these condos and making crystals.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They only got two. Don't worry. I'm about to open a trailer park, guys. Don't worry. I gotta.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think I got y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All. I got you affordable housing. I got you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Say less.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got you. I'm doing a trailer park, all right?

[Andrew Schultz]

So I think that's what it is. Like, I don't think it's progressive this or I don't think it's conservative that. It's like whatever candidate was going to come in and he did a remarkable job in getting his messaging out. But it's like affordability is the issue. And I think they look at. I think people look at it. I think people are looking at Cuomo and they're like, bro, you lost already. You fucked up with the nursing homes. You know what I mean? And you were touching on people and you resigned because of it. So that's kind of like almost an admission of guilt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Does any of that matter in the Trump era, bro?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, this is what I'm saying is I think that people look at it like you just lost already. Like you're trying to subvert the democratic process. And that's obviously something that Democrats have never done. Like, they would never do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, he was an idiot for trying to run to the Democrat anyway.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, well, here's the thing. If he ran as an independent originally, I would have more respect for it. Yeah, but you ran as a Democrat and then lost, and then you're like, okay, what else can I do? And you're backed by all these billionaires and who don't feel the stress of the rent increases. Yeah, that's the interesting thing is, like, of course the people that don't want Mundanian are the people that are unaffected by the cost of living.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I heard an interesting theory that somebody thinks Mondani is a plant, and the reason they think he's a plant is because they didn't run any, like, other candidate against him. That's actually good. Like, you had Mayor Adams and you had Andrew Cuomo, right? Oh, I forgot about Brad. Oh, shit. Get on the mic. Oh, yeah, I forgot about Brad. But it was Brad. But Brad didn't seem like a. An establishment candidate either, though. It didn't seem like there was a lot of money behind Brad. Like, it didn't seem like there was a real push behind him.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I don't think he's just. I don't think he had a campaign, bro. I. I think, I think, I don't think that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's my point. Put it.

[Alex]

So there's like, he was a legitimate candidate. I mean, he was the city comptroller. He's a long time city councilman.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, you got to know social, bro. You got to know social. You got to know how to push your message, and you got to have the message that matters. Whoever. What's it called, Mamdani is doing exactly what Trump did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

I said that freeze the rent is build the wall. What did Trump say? He said, he said, we're going to build the wall and Mexicans are going to pay for it. Mamdani came in, he goes, we're going to freeze the rent and billionaires are going to pay for it. It's like, you can see this amazing parallel in terms of their populism.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Trump said, I won the election off one word, groceries. Madani's like, I'm winning the election off one word, affordability.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's rent, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's affordability.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, here'.

[Alex]

What is his plan? I don't actually know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He never has, by the way, when he gets asked that at the debate, he never has an answer for it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who?

[Chris]

Who?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mandani.

[Chris]

Yes, he does. What are you talking about? What was the plan like you talking about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, repeat it. What is his plan?

[Chris]

Well, he's going to freeze rent and he's going to build a.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right, so here's how you do it.

[Chris]

The rent has gotten freeze in the past.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you going to refreeze that? You're not.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'll tell you how. I'll tell you. I'll tell, I'll tell you how. He, he's saying that he is going to endeavor to do it. Okay, okay. The mayor appoints the like the board of people, the rent control board. So there are certain people that are already there. They might be open to his ideas, they might not. But within two years, all their terms will have come up and he will have appointed all new ones. So within two years, he can freeze the rents on rent stabilizer rent control apartments in New York. That represents about 50% of the apartments in New York. 55. Yeah, or 50, I think. So the other 50 are just free market.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Did I already lose you? You already texted somebody else. No, no, no. So you asked me a question and go on your phone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm got you, man. I can, I'm multitasking. I'm really just looking up something.

[Andrew Schultz]

So the other 50% of the apartments in New York are not. Are on the free market.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

So he cannot touch those.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

The way. So what people would say and what I was telling him is like, listen, you could freeze the rent within two years on the rent control rent stabilize apartments. But what that's going to do more pressure on the free market rents. Because what happens is, as we know, if you grow up in the city, if you get a rent stabilizer rent control apartment, you don't leave that. Yeah, you just do not leave it. And if you're going to freeze the rent there, you double not going to leave it. Now there are shitty landlords that try to push people out. It happened to my boy Carlos growing up. They just stop accepting your rent. They're doing anything they can to get the rent stabilized people out so they can turn over the building. That is a thing that does happen. But then I also have friends that had a rent stabilized apartment, but they had a house up in the, in Hudson Valley.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They rent the stabilize apartment or they.

[Andrew Schultz]

Pass it down like they find these side chicks. Exactly. You get your side chicken to rent, stabilize, Right. She can't have free market.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's cheating.

[Andrew Schultz]

Come on. That's Dubai. That's why we out there. No, so basically what happens is 50. So what you could say is by freezing this 50%, it's going to spike the rent on this 50%. And then what he says is over the next 10 years, he's going to build 200,000 units. Now how is he going to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

10 years?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes. Okay, so how is he going to do that? Right. He, he plans on doing some Doge stuff in like, in Doge's inception, which is like creating more efficiency models in the city, punishing landlords for having these vacant apartments and creating and raising taxes on the rich to create, like, what is that, 30 billion of those, $100 billion he says. And then the other 70 billion, he wants to sell municipal municipal bonds, which are essentially bonds for the city. Now here's the thing. He can't sell those bonds without asking Albany to increase the debt ceiling. And if he has a governor there that is not willing to do that because it might create a lower bond rating for the bonds of the state, then there's a chance that he won't be able to sell that many and get that money. So that's the restriction there. He will be able to freeze rents for those 50%. That could cause a spike over here. And if he doesn't loosen up the regulation for people to actually build stuff, which is the only thing that will solve rent problems, the only thing will solve rent problems is if you let developers develop. And unfortunately there are a bunch of regulation in the city right now that basically makes it financially not feasible to build anything over like 99 units.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where do you even build in New York City?

[Alex]

Did he talk about converting commercial real estate? Because to me that's like, I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think about like 1515 building that's not going to be Caesar's palace no more, but it was going to be a hotel. So someplace like that could probably work.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is the tricky thing. 5015 is where we did MTV back in the day. It's like. So basically the tricky thing about converting office space or like commercial to real estate to residential is you can only convert the building if there's not a single existing tenant that's on a commercial lease. If there's one tenant in the whole 50 story building that's on a 10 year lease, you can't. You can maybe Pay them to leave, but you can't do it. You can find ways to try to pay them to get out. But if they got a nice deal and they have their office and their business is profitable, why the fuck are they trying to move? That's very difficult. Another issue with the office space is that it wasn't built for residential. So there's not air. Proper air. There's not proper access to lighting and windows. That's costly to kind of renovate. So there are issues with just flipping a building over. It's not as simple. Like these midtown office buildings are built different than just a random office building in fucking Albuquerque.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I ask again, where are you going to build new housing in New York City?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, even if you want to build new housing, anything you build, you got to go through Albany. You have to get approval on those different boards. So no matter what.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Actually, what I was looking up, I was looking up all the reasons he couldn't do it.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ulurpi.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Huh?

[Andrew Schultz]

You lerp is like the. Oh, no, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought you had.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, I wish I did. Yeah. You slurp would have been great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You're thinking of only New York City. Like Manhattan, but there are the five boroughs. There's a lot of land in Queens. Brooklyn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

There is place for affordable housing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got to want to live out there, though.

[Chris]

Yeah, people will. Yeah, people will.

[Andrew Schultz]

People will want to leave New York. Listen, you can make.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not true.

[Andrew Schultz]

Say again?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said people don't want to leave New York. Well, that's not true.

[Andrew Schultz]

So here's the thing, people. It's not. I don't think anybody wants to leave New York. It's the greatest city in the world. I also don't think we want billionaires to leave New York. Like, I was just telling the guys this. It's like, what makes New York amazing is you have billionaires to pay for all the expensive shit and poor artists to make everything cool, right? And when you have both of them together, you have the most magnificent city in the history of the world, which.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You need billionaires paying the most their fair share of tax.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, no, everybody's on board with that. But keep in mind, they'll never do it. That's just for you and I to pay. You and I pay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, God.

[Andrew Schultz]

Taxes.

[Chris]

You know that, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Anyway, so. But my point is. My point is, like, if you just have billionaires, you got, like, San Jose or, like, the nerdy tech places. Nobody wants to fucking live there because it's just all dorks. And if you have only like artists, you have Portland. Nobody wants to fucking live there, right? Well, I guess they have like Amazon and that kind of shit. But you have like the shitty, like hipster places that suck. When you got the rich willing to pay for the crazy shit and the cool broke artists that are willing to make things interesting and fun to go see, you got this amazing amalgamation of.

[Alex]

People and it increases the value what the rich guys already have. Because why?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't understand those rich guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Those rich guys.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's a. There's a part of me, it's like you're not really seeing the value of poor creatives.

[Alex]

Yes, like the fucking frog eating the.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. And if you take one of those animals out of it, the whole thing falls apart. So it's like. But on the same point, if you take those billionaires out of here, shit's going to fall apart. So we need to create an ecosystem. The problem is the cost of living. Because of, I don't want to say, maybe well intentioned legislation that ended up having negative results has completely stopped the construction of huge buildings in New York City.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just stopped there. I don't think New York's worth the expense, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but it's because I have a career here. But for people that just want to live here, to live, and paying 3,000, $4,000 in rent for a freaking 400 square foot apartment and all of the money we spend in New York City between tolls.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it's expensive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Congestion, prices, all that shit. Where is the enhancement to the city? Like this shit should look like Dubai, bro. I've been saying this for years. Why doesn't New York look like Dubai? Why doesn't New York like, why don't New York look like Chicago? Why doesn't New York look like Dallas?

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, I think, I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, man, Those downtowns are beautiful, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I mean New York is absolutely.

[Alex]

We want a little.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, how about. Why does Manhattan look like Brooklyn?

[Andrew Schultz]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Brooklyn look way better than Manhattan looks.

[Chris]

No, there's parts I don't think you know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, you don't struggle that much, Manhattan. You literally.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. By the way, Tribeca's gone down tremendously.

[Andrew Schultz]

The opposite over the years. Looks crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't been there in a while. I know, but I used to work down there. We used to work down there every morning.

[Andrew Schultz]

You didn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was the slums. When we were down there. I was getting jumped on it. You work? I jumped on it twice.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'll Be honest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jumped in Tribeca.

[Alex]

Those were targeted.

[Andrew Schultz]

You worked in Chinatown, bro. You ain't really working, Tribeca. I'll be honest with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You work.

[Andrew Schultz]

You work Tribeca.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tribeca's nice. Tribeca's nice. Soho's nice.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's Madi is nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

55Th street is nice.

[Andrew Schultz]

East Village is nice. Shit. People move up to the Upper east side.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's got a smell. Not the West Village. Got a little smell, yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Booty hole. Some people like that. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I'm just saying New York, I just. There's a lot more to be desired for the money that's spent.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, but that's always the deal with New York. When you paying for rent in New York, you're paying for access to the city. You're not paying for just your little Cuban.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What does this thing give you anymore?

[Andrew Schultz]

The greatest culture?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my point.

[Chris]

You don't really hide outside of work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, so you don't sell. I hate when I talk like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I tell you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just tell me.

[Chris]

Broadway restaurants.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I go to Broadway all the time.

[Chris]

Yes, that's a reason to be in New York.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, not at your house. Broadway restaurants, parties, events. That Broadway area needs more. Let me tell you. Broadway needs more than Broadway.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I tell you? You travel from Jersey. Can I tell you? Can I tell you? Can I tell you? Can I tell you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because they got Broadway.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is what New York has that no other city has. It's true diversity. And I'm not talking about just different races. It's true ethnic diversity and economic diversity. What I mean by that is, in L. A, they got diversity, but everybody lives in their own little country. Armenians live over here, Mexicans live over here. Black people live over here. White people live over there. The Jews live over there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I grew that.

[Andrew Schultz]

They don't really. We live on top of and next to each other, right? So the average New Yorker has spent so much more time in Chinatown than any person on the plane. Obviously, there's other places that have Chinatown. They understand. There's like entire neighborhoods, there's higher streets that are just Indian restaurants that are right next to a place that's like an economic hub. And the broke kid that grows up in a project happens to live one block from some Google headquarters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not in the tech world. What if.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no. But it's not about that. What I'm trying to say is accessible. A lot of the. A lot of the places right in the world. At least from like in my experience going. It's like, you Kind of live in your area, and you don't even really go out to see anything else because New York is literally so on top of one another. And we all will take the subway. We are all intermingling. You get access to certain levels of wealth and levels of poverty that most people don't understand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What about those people that live, the.

[Andrew Schultz]

People in Beverly Hills? Well, maybe it's a little different now because they're getting robbed all the time, but they don't know about Compton.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What about those people who live in Brownsville who say they've never even been to Times Square?

[Chris]

Yeah, well, the further out New Yorker's never been to Times Square. We don't go there.

[Andrew Schultz]

We don't go to Times Square. That's just you. That's for you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Times Square is for tourists. But he's talking about Broadway. But there's nothing down there but tourists.

[Andrew Schultz]

Listen, I know a lot of Broadway.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Plays you've been through this year.

[Chris]

Two.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Two.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a lot.

[Chris]

Yeah, that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've been like eight.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're gayer. What do you want? All I want to say right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I know y' all are life. You're the president of ulearp, and I love New York City. New York has been great. I realize you're making my case.

[Chris]

You say, what is. What does New York have to offer? Yeah, you're coming into New York for the thing that I just said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I have a career, Let me tell you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let me tell you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have an actual career.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let me ask you a question. What is that? No, no, I think what, what, what I think what Charlemagne is saying is this. And I don't know if, but if, like, if you're. If you're 45 years old, you got a family of three, and you're working for UPS, for example, right? And you're busting your ass and you're grinding and your rent is astronomical. New York, it's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's a struggle to do that 100%. I get that, and 100%. I think a lot of people probably agree with you. I think there are a lot of people that are in those positions are like, you know, I might have to move out to the suburbs. I got to provide for my family. This rent is just unbelievable. It's. It's crazy. But for the 22 to, like, 32 year old who has that, like, it's. It's almost like a rite of passage. You finish college, you move to New York, you get into the hustle, you're an artist, you're gonna take some job that you hate so you could work on your fucking art and you're gonna achieve your dreams. There's nothing more. You walk out your building, bro, you walk out your building and all of a sudden you're gonna see some fucking celebrity walking. And a celebrity you actually respect walking down the street walking their dog. You're like, what the fuck was that? You're gonna walk into a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even now?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, dude. You're gonna walk into a restaurant.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're gonna walk into a restaurant from a country you didn't even know existed and try a food that you didn't know what could have has been created. It's like everything is at your fingertips in this city in a way that's not in other places.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you say celebrity, you mean like somebody that's here visiting because they're.

[Chris]

No, somebody could be walking out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Robert De Niro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but he's 80.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I walked in a restaurant.

[Alex]

I was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just like, oh, God, is 50 something years old.

[Alex]

It doesn't matter. But I'm just saying, no matter how old they are, it's just like, right.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's there to you. Like, I get what you're saying, but.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There'S other places you can experience that.

[Chris]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it is. Atlanta. You can experience that. La. You can experience that. What are we talking about, guys? You can experience that in Austin nowadays.

[Alex]

Listen, I think the biggest threat to New York outside of affordability is the Internet. Because I think the Internet is what's undercutting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Explain.

[Alex]

I just look at my kids and I'm like, I always had this vision of, like, raising kids in New York. And like, because to me, even coming from somewhere like Philly, which is very adjacent, New York was always three months ahead, five months ahead. They had the music first, they had the fashion first, you know, and then most of the country was behind Philly. Other parts of the country could have been a year and a half. Yeah, yeah, right. But the New York kids were all, you know, Canal Jeans Company. Oh, my God. That's where they. You know, you pick any of these institutions and they got to see music before anybody else. You can go down the list.

[Andrew Schultz]

But now you're saying the Internet culture.

[Alex]

My kids are consuming the same culture largely that somebody in Arkansas is consuming or somebody.

[Andrew Schultz]

The difference is in Arkansas, and this is not like the finest.

[Alex]

Like I said, my kids also get on the subway every day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Remote work helped. I think remote work, I think changed here.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think remote work showed us that, like, hey, there are Other awesome places that are awesome for different reasons. People moved out to Utah and they're like, oh my God, like New Yorkers for the first time in our lives were like, yo, nature's kind of fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Florida. You went to Miami. I loved it.

[Andrew Schultz]

I love my. I was so happy in Miami, I couldn't write jokes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You probably you bumping the celebrities all day there in Miami, if that's what you care about.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's. It's not about bumping the celebrities, but I guess my point is, like, there is just so much and so much excitement. There's an energy on the street in this city that is unlike any other place I've ever been. I've traveled the whole country. I've traveled a lot of the world. Like, I'm not saying there other places aren't amazing. I mean, shit, if you have kids in this city, like, in all seriousness, if you have kids in the city and you can get them into a good school, New York and probably London are the only places on the planet. New York and London, the only places on the planet where if you get your kid into a good school, their peer group will end up being as successful as all the people who go to Harvard for the same reason. What I'm trying to say is when people go to Harvard, it's not just for the education. It's just. It's for the fact that all the people going there are some prince's kid, a senator son, a president's kid, this. But you have that in elementary and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Middle school, I can tell you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Not me, I went to public school. But you can get into a good school.

[Alex]

You have it in public school, too?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, of course. Of course.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I.

[Andrew Schultz]

But. But less so than if you're going.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To one of these. I probably bleep this, but the, the school my kids go to in Jersey.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's unbelievable.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, like, it's. It's unbelievable. But it's private school though, so.

[Andrew Schultz]

But the value of that peer group.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is. I mean, it's just indescribable. Right. It's like the access that you have for those people and those are going to be their true friends. They're not like, they're not friends because they were networking. They're friends because they first, you know, learned how to finger a girl together. Like, they have core memories with these people and then they grow on that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In a poor disenfranchised area even more. In fact, it's better.

[Andrew Schultz]

Damn right. Get a little cheeto dust.

[Alex]

Nah, I mean it's like I gotta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Finger in a wealthy area.

[Alex]

This kid just promoted a party for. It's one of Playboy, Cardi Destroy. Lonely. I don't even know. Yeah, he's 16 years old, he goes to LaGuardia. He just threw a party with 3,000 people. He cleared like a hundred thousand dollars at the door. Like this kid is on a trajectory.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can only do that here.

[Alex]

You can only do it in New York.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can only do it here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shut your arrogant New York asses up. That is not true.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the fuck?

[Andrew Schultz]

You can do it easier here than you can in Columbia, South Carolina.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, but you name Columbia, South Carolina. What about Atlanta, Georgia? What about Los Angeles, California? What about Austin, Texas? What about Miami, Florida?

[Andrew Schultz]

You can do it easier here. No, and it's cooler.

[Alex]

It's cooler.

[Andrew Schultz]

It is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why'd you go to Miami? For Covid?

[Andrew Schultz]

Because they're open.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was Covid and Miami's fly?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, no, because they don't believe in rules.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You get on a plane and go to Miami for the weekend.

[Andrew Schultz]

They don't believe in rules.

[Chris]

Everything was still open.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why you go to the Hamptons every weekend?

[Andrew Schultz]

That shit is fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying? You barely here either.

[Andrew Schultz]

New York, but that's still New York.

[Alex]

I'm not gonna lie. I was in LA last week. I would've moved there tomorrow if I had money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really? See, I don't feel. But yo, but I feel I'm with you. I don't like la. Listen, I'm not saying I don't like la. LA is cool. I'm just saying if you could do.

[Alex]

It at the highest level, it'd be amazing.

[Andrew Schultz]

So my.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We hate at the highest level.

[Andrew Schultz]

My issue with LA is a philosophical one and that like one of the coolest things about New York is we still value greatness, authenticity. Authenticity. Like Curtis Sliwa is a celebrity to us because he's this unique, interesting character. The best skateboarder is going to be popping here. The best artist is going to be popping here. And we gravitate to them. We love them. Whereas LA is a. Is a star based city. It's built around entertainment superstars so you could be the star of the biggest movie that sucks. And you're going to get way more love than like the indie director.

[Alex]

That's just really person. Fuck that interesting person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We got to be honest though.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like we value. We value interesting artists and great people here. And. And what is interesting? I'll give credit to some of the billionaires what the billionaires realize, and this is what the tech bros are starting to realize, is like they work their whole life to make billions of dollars thinking that that's going to make everyone like them. And then they realize that they can't get laid. And then they start going, fuck, Like, I thought once I had all this money, my life would be good. And then they go, shit. So then they start hanging out with the party guys and they see if they can entrench themselves into those groups. New York, you don't need to be the tech bro to get. Matter of fact, there are clubs right now that are like actively trying to not let the hedge funds and tech guys in because they think it's going to fuck the vibe up. It's never just been, yo, I got the most money. And once it does, it starts to become uncool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But we got to admit that there was a time New York had more of that. A lot, lot more of that. Like, who's the last huge artist to come out of New York City? Cardi.

[Andrew Schultz]

Cardi B.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's the last huge comedian to come out of New York City? Andrew. But think about how few and far between that's been just over the last decade.

[Alex]

Chalamet is a kid who reps New York.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't even know Timothy was from New York.

[Andrew Schultz]

He went to the same school as Dope. No, no, he went to PCs.

[Alex]

No, he went. Well, I know he went to LaGuardia.

[Andrew Schultz]

Went to LaGuardia. And then I think he went to NYU.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's born. I didn't know that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, he used to three people.

[Chris]

I mean, that's recent.

[Power Drill (Character)]

They should.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But in the 90s, think about the 80s and the 90s also, when new York was really the hub of culture.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think what's also happened is like we've become older so we're less aware of what's going on. And I also think the Internet has created a thousand different cultures. Like, we don't exist in monoculture anymore. There's like a thousand different small things. So where, like you were telling me that kid threw this party with 3,000 people. None of us knew that shit happened. But 16 year olds were probably like, yo, this is the crazy, crazy happen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just think that with all of it. And I go back to my original point, with all of the money that we spend in New York, if New York looked as futuristic, New York should look like the fucking city in the jets at this point. That's all I'm saying. I think New York City, I think.

[Andrew Schultz]

I would change what it looks like. I think I would go, like, if you felt like you were getting things for that money. Yes. And this is something I was talking to Zorin about is like, listen, we have an antagonistic relationship with government in general. Like, that's the history of America. Like, hey, we don't want to pay those taxes. Let's go to war about it. Like, we constantly. We set up our whole governmental system assuming that there were going to be corrupt people and they were going to try to usurp power. And we're like, all right, well, let's divide this shit up so they can't do it. So we already don't trust government. So we haven't actually lived in a place where the government we felt like was doing something for us. So I was like, listen, if you can be successful and convince New Yorkers that the government can help them, you could change the way we see government. But you're going up against 400 years of US going, government sucks, and government tries to fuck you. So you're going to run into a lot of pressure.

[Alex]

I think New York just governs itself well.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's why we don't vote for mayor. That's why none of us care. Have you how many, like, I vote, son. Sign.

[Chris]

And I vote everything, though. I'm one of those outliers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even midterms, whoever comes in and puts money into the city. Yo, the subways. What if the subways look like the Amtrak from. From fucking New York to D.C. get nice food and fucking some drinks. The subways don't even look good for all the money.

[Andrew Schultz]

That, bro, it is crazy that they haven't found a way for the subways to make money. We literally have to use it because we have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because of the way it looks.

[Andrew Schultz]

You need to let, like, some drug dealer run a subway. Like, you know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, that's all I'm saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's addiction, bro. It's addiction. At the end of the day, we have to use it. How do you not find a way to make this proper?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever rode the train from New York to D.C. yeah. When you ride the train from New York to D.C. you'll see elected officials on there, you'll see senators on there, because you can actually.

[Alex]

Because it costs more money to get on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because it's worth it.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, it's not worth it to spend $100 a fucking day to drive into the city.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All I'm saying is for the money that the subways make, they can look.

[Andrew Schultz]

Better than they Subways don't make money.

[Alex]

Is a fucked up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all I'm saying. Why are we arguing? Like the MTA looks disgusting.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, nobody's, nobody's arguing with that. I'm actually trying to talk about like how clearly inept they are. Yeah, like it's fucked up. Like how would, how is it possible that this place. Now what I'll also say is that it's a 24 hour system and I think it might be the only one that exists in the western hemisphere that.

[Alex]

Was largely built 100 years ago. And they can't shut it down. That's the problem. You can never.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, you shut it down. Eight million people are gonna be like, the is going on here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, start the construction, bro. The same way they've been working on the GWB for 20 plus years. Start the construction on it.

[Chris]

But how do you do construction?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People are using it. I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what you got to do. And I'll be, I'll be honest with you. This sounds up and like they're going to be a bunch of like developers that make a whole lot of money off it and people are going to be upset. But you almost need to go, yo, for the next 10 years, developers build whatever the you want and you don't got to pay taxes on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

C. You just need to say, I love that idea.

[Andrew Schultz]

They already do now. They do now. That's why they're not building.

[Alex]

But here's my, my question.

[Andrew Schultz]

When they weren't, they were building though.

[Alex]

The most influential group historically in New York, at least for the last hundred years, has been the developers. When it comes to politics, they have the most money and they throw it around the most. From what you're saying about Zoran's plan, it would actually be a windfall for them because it only works if you can build new units.

[Andrew Schultz]

But he wants to build it with the government. I mean, he's saying he wants to.

[Alex]

Be behind him, then he says he.

[Andrew Schultz]

Want to work with local developers, whatever. But like it's. They don't have the incentive structure based on profitability that he wants. Right. It's like the only reason why these luxury buildings are going up is because that's the only thing you can make money.

[Alex]

One little bullshit, you know, kindergarten in the first floor, they get a tax abatement and then the rest of it is market price units.

[Andrew Schultz]

And listen, that way. The point is we have a real rent issue here. And the only way you get around the rent issue is by having more. It's supply and demand. You got to have more units, and in order to do that, you got to let these developers fucking develop. I don't know if. I mean, Zoran thinks that the city can do it, like the government can do it. I don't know if that's been proven to us to be effective in the past.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's going to be tough, bro.

[Alex]

That you have housing projects, essentially.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, Sliwa actually has the best approach in terms of actually solving it. Like, he's like, yo, we're going to wipe back all this regulation now. The problem is it. It won't protect these people that are in rent stabilized. It won't protect these people that are in rent control. Like, a lot of those might lose their thing so that people start renovating those places, and you'll have the vacant so tennis will get fucked. But he actually has a thing that in the long term, will help the most people, which is more housing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If Zoron wins, he needs to find a place for Curtis in his goddamn administration. Yeah, make Curtis police commissioner or something. Like something. Curtis got to be in the administration. Listen, how does China have so much development and innovation? Because they're hundreds of years old as a country.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're cooking a book.

[Alex]

Economy has collapsed.

[Andrew Schultz]

I said they're cooking the books, not the bar. Sorry, Chris.

[Guest or Caller]

Sorry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But my point is, you can see China.

[Alex]

Yeah, but the problem is they put so much money into it, and it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Was all, no, no, no, watch, watch.

[Alex]

But there was no real market for it. And now you have literally entire cities, ghost cities of abandoned high rises.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think they're even destroying something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So America, New York City in particular, has billions and billions of dollars that they don't put into it. And we know if we did, the people wouldn't go anywhere. It wouldn't be a ghost town.

[Andrew Schultz]

But we need drag queens to read to the kids.

[Alex]

Could we build?

[Andrew Schultz]

This is what we need.

[Alex]

How about this? What does New York City have that it doesn't utilize right now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Prostitutes. Outside of what? What? Fucking Diddy scared everybody, bro. A lot of did. He scared everybody? Did he scared everybody, bro? Prostitutes ain't work since Prostitutes.

[Alex]

Coastline.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Alex]

How about we build.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, Chris.

[Alex]

Barges.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hold on, hold on. Barges, Chris. Accessing a different level of Jewish brainpower. Right? I didn't even know this was possible. You trying to put the black people back on the boat, Chris? What the fuck is going on here? Damn, Chris.

[Alex]

Everybody get back on the boat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Want us to live on boats?

[Alex]

We came in from Ellis Island. Now we're Going to go back to the boats, Chris.

[Andrew Schultz]

We're not going to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is Chris saying right now? Yeah, what is Chris saying?

[Alex]

Permanent barges and all this. You know, when they build everything in New York City, they thought water was actually unhealthy. So in most places in the world, the coastline is the most valuable piece of property. In New York, it's the opposite. They put all the housing projects, all the junk around the coast. So these are coastlines that no one's using for recreation or, you know, beautiful views, what have you. It's underutilized. You build all these barges along the east river, in the bay, whatever, and you put fucking 30 story buildings on those.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's got to be a reason that's not happening.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, Trump did that shit on the west side Highway.

[Alex]

Yeah, they had that Covid boat right there. The COVID floating house.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, he just built to live on that, though. Landfill.

[Alex]

They put landfill. World Trade center was landfill.

[Andrew Schultz]

They did landfill.

[Chris]

So basically just make Manhattan bigger.

[Alex]

Do we need one of those rivers?

[Chris]

Bad land.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you won't be able to rivers.

[Andrew Schultz]

Environmentalist Chris is going out the window. See what a housing crisis will do. See what a housing crisis.

[Alex]

You really need the East River.

[Andrew Schultz]

Put them in the boats.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is fucking crazy. So you want them to live on the barges?

[Andrew Schultz]

We need a little separation from Jersey, Chris. We can't get too close.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We need a little separation, but Jersey is where it's at, baby.

[Andrew Schultz]

Where do you live again?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not telling nobody.

[Andrew Schultz]

Damn. I thought we could out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jersey's where it's at. Okay. They building Netflix in Jersey. They building Lionsgate in Jersey.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hey, I'm bullish on Jersey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Lionsgate is in Newark, New Jersey, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, Netflix is in my mouth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mom, if it is.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is.

[Andrew Schultz]

Look it up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, Mom.

[Andrew Schultz]

Mouth it is. No, it's gonna catch him. How would.

[Chris]

What would you say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Put your dick. No. Put your dick in my mouth.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But no, it is. It's mammoth. What is it? M O, N, M, O.

[Andrew Schultz]

You said mon mouth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know I can't pronounce. People get offended when I mispronounce their name. Like, do you listen to me?

[Andrew Schultz]

But you have a part of your brain that makes you pronounce something in the most.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look it up, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Way possible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look up Netflix.

[Alex]

Look it up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris, you think I'm making this up, man? It's my mouth.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's my mouth. It is. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on. But it's spelled my mouth.

[Andrew Schultz]

No to you. It is, because something's Going in your mouth that way and you like, look how it's spelled.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

M O N M O U T.

[Andrew Schultz]

H. Do you know what mon means in French?

[Alex]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

My.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My. My mouth.

[Alex]

See? Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Netflix is building a $1 billion studio complex at the former Fort Monmouth in Monmouth County, New Jersey, with an expected opening in 2028. Yo, what do you think about.

[Chris]

It's funny when he says it, but it's just funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you think about Spotify and the ringer doing their deal with Netflix?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, that's right. They're gonna like put some of the 16 shows.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's eight sports shows, eight lifestyle shows.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On Netflix. What do you think about that? And I think they're taking all that stuff off YouTube. There's just gonna be clips on YouTube, but you can go watch the full episodes on Netflix. What do you think about that?

[Andrew Schultz]

I think it's a great deal for the Ringer. I think they don't lose much because I think the most of their, their listens come from audio. So it's not a huge sacrifice for them video wise. I think doing it for a big video podcast, it'd be a lot trickier. But doing it for a big audio podcast, they're like, all right, we're getting a few thousand views on shows here on YouTube. It's no big sacrifice. We could go to another place. And then I think they probably don't charge them too much. And then I think Netflix gets to test if people will listen or watch podcasts on their platform.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, he already got podcasts on the platform.

[Andrew Schultz]

Which one?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Netflix has some original ones. They don't have any like, like the Bill Simmons or rewatchables, but they have like some like original ones that they've done.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, what's the name of it they've.

[Alex]

Done what a true crime. What do you call like a, A reaction podcast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Reaction podcast to show. Didn't Crystal have one or am I making that up?

[Alex]

No, that wasn't on Netflix.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was on Netflix. Yeah, that was hbo and the other thing too.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, I just think global.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just America.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think it's a good test, like Netflix gets to probably for not that much money. Test if people will watch long form podcasts on their network and if they will, then they go, why the fuck are we spending $200 million on a movie that people watch when we could spend a few million dollars on a podcast that they're going to watch every single week? Yeah, it's just a cheaper, it's a cheaper endeavor. A movie cost $200 million, bro. It's insane how much movies cost.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, the. Oh, yeah, I'm with you 100%. But if I go to Netflix, I'm not going to Netflix to watch podcast, per se. Right. Like, YouTube is the place where you just get lost in all of that. That type of shit. I wonder if the shows like the Ringer. I mean, shows like Bill Simmons, Podcast and Rewatchables, can they keep the same level of production.

[Alex]

That's my question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And be successful on Netflix.

[Chris]

What do you mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because Bill Simmons is just like, you go pull up one of his videos to watch the Ringer. Oh, oh, it's not even this. It's this. Yeah, yeah, he got a set, but.

[Andrew Schultz]

He'S like, I feel like I. Yeah, I feel like this is not even. This is better.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's kind of high level. Yeah, I don't even know Riverside. Like, yeah, pull up. And I love Bill. Salute to Bill Simmons, but pull up like Bill Simmons, you know, podcast. Just look how it looks. I just like, okay, see, this is an example, right?

[Alex]

I'm trying to find one with his actual studio. I think it's like this one, I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. So look cool background, right? Real close up on him, you know, see what he could have on. No underwear for all we know.

[Alex]

Yeah, I've seen this. I had that poster, by the way. But it's like a lot of 70s and 80s memorabilia personalized for him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I like it. I like the background. But it's just Netflix, is what I'm saying. Or do you even have to do that now?

[Alex]

Well, I think the bigger question isn't even, like, production value. And I think they. Netflix said this in their press release. Is this the end of late night talk shows as we've known it?

[Andrew Schultz]

That's.

[Alex]

And this. This is your late night talk.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. It's been this way, though. Like, we. We've known that for a while. I think what. What they're testing to see is do people care about high production value? And the reality is nobody goes on Netflix. And they're like, this production value better be a lot fucking better than what I was watching before. They just go on Netflix. Like, what is going to distract me? And if they could do that with Bill, like, if they could do that again. I assume Netflix's goal is not to just be TV and movies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They can't be anymore.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. So I assume what their goal is, they're doing live events, right? Imagine you could watch an NBA game on Netflix and then immediately after watch Bill Talk about what happened in the game.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have to.

[Andrew Schultz]

So I think this is their, like, dipping their toes in.

[Chris]

I think it's genius for both parties because you're just taking eyes away from YouTube, which was free eyes for the most part.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly.

[Chris]

Already has Netflix, so it's going to be easy to convert people like, oh, hey, you want to keep watching? Just watch me on Netflix.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No additional job. I agree. Netflix is probably the easiest screaming platform to do this on, because Netflix is like. Like it's everywhere, bro. That is on remote controls.

[Andrew Schultz]

Kill Tony did it first. Kill Tony is a podcast. It's a live podcast. And Netflix, I think, ordered four of them a year. Eight of them here. 12 or 12, I'm not exactly sure. So recently, yeah, it's been happening regularly. They made a deal with it, so it's like they're testing to see, like, can these things happen? Now, granted, that is like a live event show. There's production value to that. You're doing it in arenas. It's a little bit different, but still, it's. I think they're testing can. Will people watch long for content form content that's inexpensive to make, and nothing would make them happier than finding out that we. We will be willing to watch two hours of a podcast that costs a fraction of what the newest Expendables franchise.

[Alex]

That you come back to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I thought during the writers strike, man, when the writer strike happened, the most recent writer strike, I was like, yo, the last time there was a writer's strike, it was the rise of reality television, right? And so I thought I was telling my agents and everything, like, you know, with this writer's strike, it should be the rise of podcasting, because we're doing this already. We're shooting our own content. All you gotta do is take it, put the catalog up on your motherfucking platform, put our new episodes out every week and see what the fuck happens. It's not gonna cost you anything. You just cut us a motherfucking check. You know what I'm saying? We're already doing our own production and see what the fuck happens. So it is going to be interesting to watch. I don't. I don't know.

[Alex]

I think there is a production floor, though. I don't think it has to be high. But, like, I think Bill Simmons in his studio is one thing versus, like, Bill Simmons on zoom at his desk on zoom, talking to somebody else. I think if you were on Netflix, that maybe that would feel a little. Or does it not matter?

[Andrew Schultz]

Let me tell you why I don't think it matters. Okay, I think we've gotten to a point where the screen is the screen, right? People are watching Netflix on their phone or iPad. Remember? It's not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're old.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, we watch Netflix on our TV screen at home. But even now, people are casting things on their TV screen. Once the screen is the screen, it doesn't really matter how many times we see Brilliant Idiot someone takes a screenshot posted, they're watching it on their TV.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

At home all the time. I see that with Breakfast Club content. Brilliant Idiot content, everything. But you're sleeping on our production value, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Our production value.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

We change the game. Look at this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're sitting in the fucking studio.

[Andrew Schultz]

Got books, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Some of them you wrote.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. Like, it's a little bit different. But I will say this about Spotify too. I mean, is it worth. Just hear me out. I'm not saying it's not. I just want discussion. Is it worth taking your full videos off YouTube, which is global, putting them on Netflix, which is just in the US for the ringer.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes. Because they don't really get views on YouTube like that. For us, the bag would have to be bigger because we're looking at. We're going, oh, shit. A significant portion of our audience is on. What's it called? There's other. There's other shows, not just the Ringer. There's another one that's like mostly audio.

[Alex]

It's Dissect. I saw was part of the deal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I bet a music breakdown show.

[Andrew Schultz]

I bet even like the New York Times. Like, I bet any of those type of pods, like, where it's like, people can watch it on YouTube. Sure. But the majority of people are listening to it. Those pods. I think that there's no sacrifice or there's minimal sacrifice for them to go to Netflix.

[Chris]

I'm just surprised for Spotify because Spotify has been doing a push to get more video content and for like trying to convert YouTubers onto the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that bit stopped working when they. When they. When they had their own video platform and they was trying to get people to pay for it. Behind the paywall?

[Chris]

No, not even behind the paywall now it's like if you just have your phone open, then you see the video, but you can still close your phone and just listen. As audio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And they've been trying to push that. So I'm actually surprised they're moving away from that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, it's hard to turn down Netflix, bro.

[Chris]

That's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, saying it's like, it's hard to turn. The only other place that's probably harder to turn down than Netflix is maybe Apple. Yeah, right? Apple would be cool, right? Like, Apple would be a cool partner. I can't think of nobody else after that. Maybe Amazon.

[Chris]

Yeah, I think Netflix is best.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Most people have Netflix because everybody got Netflix, bro. Netflix is like, that shit is on remote controls already, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the thing. If it's there, it's there and people will watch it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, the only thing that's on the remote is Netflix, Amazon, Amazon prime, and YouTube. Disney's on remotes now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got church announcements?

[Andrew Schultz]

I have mosque announcements.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Talk to me, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, now that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Talk to me, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Converted to communism.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay.

[Chris]

People gonna take you serious.

[Alex]

Watch.

[Andrew Schultz]

Say again?

[Chris]

People gonna take you serious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't have time for that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I can't be taken serious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we don't have time for people taking it seriously.

[Andrew Schultz]

We just let people bicker on the Internet. That's what we have. Fun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You really? That's the best thing, bro. Stop engaging. Throw the fucking rock and hide your head. Y' all look crazy. Y' all keep wanting this.

[Andrew Schultz]

Don't tell them what we do, bro. Don't tell them what we do. If you tell them what we do, then they might not react.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, like Go, go, go, go.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, we're angry. Stop it, stop it, stop it. Stop talking about Riyadh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you back doing shows yet?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm back. Back getting up again. I'm back getting up again. So that's, that's, that's going to be the next, that's going to be the next few months. Is, is really just kind of getting back in the clubs, grinding and, and putting together another hour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My church announcement Friday. I'll be in Columbia, South Carolina. I'll be home in the metro. It's a University of South Carolina homecoming, my wife's alma mater. And I'm doing book conversation, a moderated book. I'm moderating a conversation with Dawn Staley and Asia Wilson. You know, Don Staley, she put out a book, Uncommon Favor on my book in print, Black Privilege Publishing earlier this year. Been on the New York Times bestsellers list for weeks. And you know. Yeah, we're having a conversation about the book at the Colonial Life arena this Friday at 4:30pm and then right after that they're having an exhibition game against Anderson, S.C. and yes, Asia Wilson will be joining us for that conversation. Big Asia. Greatest WNBA player ever. Argue with your freaking mother. Okay, I don't got time to be arguing with y' all about who the greatest WNBA player of all time. We know it's Asia Wilson. Cut it the fuck out.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who would say otherwise?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People who actually watch the sport. I watch the WNBA though. But I mean, she's the best to me. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Who else is in the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maya Moore.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Maya Moore. You know what I was thinking too. I want to say this real quick. Lisa Leslie should be the WNBA commissioner. Cause I saw Kathy. I know people have had their issues with Kathy Engelbert. I think her name is. She even got booed, you know, when the Aces won the championship and she had to present the trophies.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ooh, that's how, you know it's popping.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, you know, cause she made a comment that. I think she denied that she even said that. I'm not sure, but I just think that. What is this NBA commissioner makes big admission about? That's Adam Silver, though. I'm talking about the WNBA commissioner. Her name is Kathy Engelbert. I just think Lisa Leslie would make a great commissioner for the wnba, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just had that revelation the other day. Cuz she's a. Not just a player, you know, a founding player of the wnba and she actually knows the players. I think sometimes in those positions, you know, you need people who actually know what the league.

[Alex]

Has there ever been an ex player who's the commissioner of a sports league?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think so.

[Andrew Schultz]

Look man, I agree 100%. Can we move on?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shut down?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how much longer I can pretend to give a fly fuck who the commission of wnba.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, Lisa, let's rooting for you. I. I don't give a fuck what your.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, get your money, Lisa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to see.

[Andrew Schultz]

Lisa love you get it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not even here to create an argument for it. I'm just throwing it out there.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, you just gotta throw it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Throw it out there. Okay. Lisa Leslie should be the new WNBA commissioner.

[Andrew Schultz]

Argue amongst y' all deal with it. Argue amongst not qualified.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Argue amongst yourselves. What else we got? Alex, what happened in pop culture this week man? Rest in peace.

[Andrew Schultz]

Chris was angry. Chris was angry right there. You see that? Why? Because you were take. You were about to. You were about to take away one of the few positions for Jewish people in sports.

[Alex]

We're pretty good.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hilarious Commissioner. That's not only true.

[Alex]

Shout out David Stern. Adam Silver.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Adam. Adam.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean Adam. Adam is at the helm during the most successful time in the history of the NBA. We might, you know, I mean like you got to give credit where credit Successful time financially making crazy money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I guess. Is that his fault? Is that because of him though?

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's give him a little credit. He's an odd looking guy. He's an odd looking guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Crazy last name to be Jewish, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is he Jewish?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know he was Jewish.

[Alex]

If he's not Jewish, I'd be very sur.

[Andrew Schultz]

That was Chris that said that. I just want to clarify.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Chris is Jewish. Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

We kinda huh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kinda though a little bit.

[Alex]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know if.

[Alex]

Do the Jews consider me Jewish?

[Andrew Schultz]

Say again?

[Alex]

Do the Jews consider me Jewish?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, until they hear your views on Palestine.

[Alex]

All right, but still, still, still a Jew, baby.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I don't like. No one really knows what you look like. Most people assume that you're.

[Alex]

I look like a Jewish. There's no question. I look like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. What I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[Alex]

So I live out.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, son. Sorry. What was this energy? Chris been on Lyme disease for the last six months.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My lies. He perked the. I'm gonna be honest with you man. I don't know how I feel about this. Chris, because you've been ducking your Jewish.

[Andrew Schultz]

Head last couple of years. What happened no, no, no, no, no. There's a street choir.

[Alex]

Not at all.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now he's coming out the tunnels.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I only got. I can give credit to guys like Dove. Dove been repping his set the whole time.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right. Chris, you've been kind of taking your glasses off so your eyes look a little like. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a little.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Dove had the yarmulke on when Zordon walked in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You not get crazy yarmul headbanging.

[Andrew Schultz]

Say what?

[Alex]

Let's not get craz. Yeah. I went to a bar mitzvah last year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

I have a black friend. I was invited to the barbecue once.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened at the bar, Mr. Chris? So I parked my car, okay.

[Alex]

And then put the money in, went inside, put the yarn. And then halfway through, I forgot. I had to re. You know, replenish the meter. So I ran out, forgot to take the thing off. I'm like, hold on. People are looking at me different here. What's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying? The energy.

[Alex]

I was like, fuck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying? He took it off. See, that's what I'm saying, Chris. That's why we questioning you, bro.

[Alex]

I don't rock it like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, they thought you was taking money out of the parking meter. He's looking at Chris like, yo, does he got a magnet attached to that? How's he doing that? He got a corner on a string.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. What else we got, Alex?

[Andrew Schultz]

See, Zoron changed me, bro.

[Alex]

Chris is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you voting for Zoron?

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm. I've told you, I'm from New York. We don't vote in the mayor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why y' all fronting on Curtis, though, bro?

[Andrew Schultz]

I. So I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Honestly, Curtis makes a lot of sense.

[Andrew Schultz]

I might have to vote for Curtis, bro. I might have to go vote for Curtis.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Curtis makes a lot of sense to me, bro. I just. I like. I like honest people.

[Andrew Schultz]

I might have to vote for Curtis.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You will get me every time. Just being honest, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know.

[Chris]

Honest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have no problem with Donoramandani. I. You know how I get, man, when you overhype something, I gotta be the opposite. I know.

[Andrew Schultz]

And he.

[Chris]

He's.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's not even from here. I know. So he wants to be a hipster. No, but I like Curtis, bro. I like Curtis. Curtis is fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just feel like, you know, I like Zoran Mandani. I like his messaging. I tell you that. But, you know, like, when I Hit like Maddie Hasan was like, oh, he's a generational talent. I'm like, what are we talking about?

[Andrew Schultz]

Because Mehdi never said that about you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Chris]

Zoran Mandani is both a once in a generation political talent in terms of his communication skills, in terms of his policy platform, in terms of his charisma, he's once in a generation like Obama esque. No doubt about that. Even his enemies concede that. But at the same time, he's also benefited. He's a lucky candidate in that he has his opposition divided between three people, two of whom are clearly freaks. And I'm not talking about Curtis Sliwa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We talk about generational talent. Who the generational political talent to you?

[Andrew Schultz]

Barack Obama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ok, who's the generational? I don't even agree with that.

[Alex]

I thought he was overhyped. Hello, the two of my lifetime. Clinton and Trump did.

[Andrew Schultz]

No question Clinton. Clinton.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No question Clinton.

[Alex]

Political beat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No question Clinton.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No question Trump either.

[Andrew Schultz]

No question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But see, the only reason I grade Trump on a curve and I'll tell you why, he's not a politician.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, so you got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's not a crypto.

[Andrew Schultz]

You got higher standards for somebody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everything Trump does, he's supposed to do because of his background. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a good point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's already a celebrity. He had all of that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now, Clinton was generational. I wasn't around for Reagan, but.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But apparently Kennedy looked generational to me.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, Kennedy looked generation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wasn't there, but he looked generational. I think Obama was generation.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, Obama was raised.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Chris. Obama.

[Chris]

Chris, you're bugging on that one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Obama's generation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You've been around too many black guys.

[Chris]

And Mandani is early, but also he doesn't have. He can't run for president, so I don't think he'll have as much of an impact just being from the York.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, that's not true.

[Chris]

Like everybody else. Everybody else you named was presidents.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Trump's from New York. You can be a few. When you got it, you got it.

[Chris]

I'm saying, like, he can't be a generational talent because he'll never be able to run for president to get up there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't think that. I don't think he's a generational talent just because I don't see that shit. Like, it's. He's cool. I like his messaging. I think he's good. He's really good.

[Alex]

Well, certainly he's like a guy who Played one year in college.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Obama had it from the beginning, bro.

[Alex]

Athleticism, maybe translate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember listening to Barack Obama on Wendy Williams show, and he was promoting the audacity of hope. And you were like, who is that? I never. You know, I never heard of him. You're like, who is that guy?

[Chris]

I'm saying here in New York, everybody's like, who's this Zoga?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not true. Yes, everybody.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's not true. No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Here in New York.

[Andrew Schultz]

Here in New York, people are. He is. He is very good, but he is speaking. And his political talent, to me, is not like the schmooze. It's recognizing exactly what the problem that people have is and speaking to it. And that's what Trump did. That is. And that is the other guys just can't do, by the way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's not a tough problem to see if you just open your goddamn eyes. Yeah, Shit is too expensive every fucking way.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why would Cuomo know that? You know what I mean? Cuomo had never had to worry about rent in the last fucking 100 years.

[Alex]

It's also that he took a stand, let's call it, on Gaza, when none of the other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was. That was a turn. That was a game changing moment. Yeah. As much as the debate, I think.

[Andrew Schultz]

That'S when he tapped into something. He tapped and that was that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

More Trump energy.

[Alex]

Ooh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

America fur.

[Andrew Schultz]

America first.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

New York. Fur New York first. That's what it was.

[Chris]

Come on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When somebody asked you a question, you running a mad race and somebody asking you about a foreign country, and you like, bro, what are we talking about? Like, you know what I'm saying? Why you asking about New York? That's like, oh, yeah, all that messaging works. The messaging of affordability. The messaging of. You first. Come on, guys. You're acting like you never tricked a girl before. You're the only one. You my number one. You my number one. Hey, take some of this money.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just market. Just market now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just saying, you never finessed a girl.

[Andrew Schultz]

You double it down. He double it down. He double it down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, whatever. You never tricked. Okay? Tricked off. You never tricked off on a girl. You my number one. Hey, you my number one. Here, go buy you something nice.

[Andrew Schultz]

Get your nails done.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all complicate this politics thing, bro. Yeah, I know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Go fix that yeast infection.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all want to know the truth to the matter that nobody ever wants to admit?

[Andrew Schultz]

What's that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The best politicians. A whole. Name them. What was JFK not considered a ladies man?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, they're out there not considered. They're out there hitting skins because they know how to be liked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was Trump not out here knocking him down?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, he was knocking him down, bro. That's a fact.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And, and guess what? If you talk to the American son.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, no, he got one of your hoes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He got a. You will get depends on your side.

[Andrew Schultz]

You think they're all love bombing.

[Alex]

That's all.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's love bombing. That's all politics is 100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One big love bomb.

[Andrew Schultz]

Love bomb us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's it. Duron's love bombing everybody right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

And it's working because he's telling us what we want to hear. The rent is too damn high. When rent is too damn high. Got love bomb us. It almost works.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And guess what? When he gets in office and can't get nothing done, he's going to blame it on your ex.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who is?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Donald Trump.

[Andrew Schultz]

Donald Trump.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Trump is gonna come through. Oh, you with this boo now. Now he wants you back. Now he gonna be interfering in neopolitics. He already said it, by the way. He said it yesterday. He literally was like, you know, listen, Curtis can't win. I'm paraphrasing. You can look it up. But he was like, basically, Zoran's gonna win. And he was like, but remember, they gotta go through the White House. And he was like, maybe not other White Houses, but they gotta go through this White House.

[Andrew Schultz]

A new poll shows that if Curtis Sliwa dropped out of the New York.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that can happen?

[Guest or Caller]

Well, I looked at the polls and looks like we're going to have a communist as the mayor of New York. It'll be very interesting, but here's the good news. He's got to go through the White House. Everything goes through the White House. At least this White House it does. And we'll have to see what happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's letting you know. Ice ages ran down on Canal street yesterday.

[Chris]

Yeah, that was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When have you ever seen ice agents ran down on Canal Street?

[Andrew Schultz]

I've been waiting for that. I'm not going to lie, bro. Canal street was an open air, Force One bazaar. It was crazy.

[Chris]

That is one place I own.

[Andrew Schultz]

My Canal street was crazy. It's not like the little shops where you go in and buy the fake bags. The whole sidewalk walk had turned into an open air.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought it was legal.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, they're selling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's why? When you do things out in the open like that, Nobody.

[Alex]

Like a fascinating study if you've watched it for the last 10 years. Because that was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That.

[Alex]

That fake handbag and watches was completely controlled by the Chinese and then the.

[Andrew Schultz]

Then the Sudanese or somebody.

[Alex]

West Africans or. I don't know where.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, like.

[Chris]

No, I think it's still controlled by the Asians.

[Andrew Schultz]

They just got them selling it, you know? Yeah.

[Chris]

Nah, they're taking all the risk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But China's still shipping all of that in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Click on that CNN article. Chris, what does that say? Trump says he'll speak to Zoran Mandani if he wins New York City mail race. This is what I was watching you.

[Andrew Schultz]

That was the same combo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it was, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen to this gangster, Mandani.

[Guest or Caller]

If he wins, yeah, I'll speak to him. Obligation to speak to him. But look, I love New York. I've always loved New York. I just can't believe a thing like this is happening with the Communists in charge. Look, you just go back a thousand years. I mean, it's been done many times. A thousand years. It's never worked once. So it's not going to work.

[Andrew Schultz]

The Democrat Party now more Zoran Mandani's party than it is even leader Schumer's or leader.

[Guest or Caller]

That is true, but it's the Democrat Party, the people.

[Andrew Schultz]

Not the politicians, the people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, son, I got to get out of New York. No, you.

[Andrew Schultz]

You got to get in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Democrats are just as leaderless as they were six months ago.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, what I'm saying, the reason they're leaderless is because they don't have a galvanizing force for their old school rhetoric. The new young kids, they're about this socialist stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you know who's the leading that charge? Bernie. Bernie.

[Andrew Schultz]

Aoc.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Aoc. Yes. Madani. I don't even think. I don't even think he's a close third.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's fruit off that tree, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's definitely fruit off that tree. 100%. But it's Bernie and AOC. That's Chris barely fro.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's Chris's shit.

[Alex]

Yeah, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If Bernie. Yo, bro. If Bernie.

[Alex]

Communism, you said.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oy vey. Communism. I love it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the heck is that?

[Andrew Schultz]

Hysterical. Oy vey is like a Asian shit. No, that's soy vey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's pay some bills and do some asking. These.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen man, let's do some asking idiots man. What we got? I Don't want nobody to think I don't give a about Zoran Wandani either. I just, just now I. I did like Doron when he came to Breakfast Club. But Curtis interview was very entertaining, bro. Y' all need to have Curtis on flagrant.

[Andrew Schultz]

Listen, this is the problem. We enjoy entertaining people and our entire identity is not politics. But a lot of people, their entire identity is politics. So they get very sensitive around anything political. Unless you're 100% agreeing with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So that I. I hear where you're coming from and I hear your hesitation. But. But I'm telling you, it's that rent shit, man. People are fucking struggling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Affordability. I'm with you, Samson. KT says, how did you guys navigate the most confusing phases of your life, your early 20s as young men? I don't think that was the most confusing phase of my life.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's not even close.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, that was. That didn't give a fuck in my 20s.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think teens are more confusing. 20s is just like, hustle, grind, have fun. Hustle, grind, have fun. And then when you become an adult.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you have a family, that's it. Whatever age you become an adult and you got a family. You know what I'm saying? If you get married at 25 and you got a couple of kids, that's when shit gets tricky. It's so confusing.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a good point.

[Alex]

Because, you know, it's the least confusing because your job is right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Kids. I'm not talking about marriage. I'm talking about kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but life is no longer yours. So when something is going on with your child that you can't, I guess, control or fix in that moment, you really be sitting there like, what the fuck am I supposed to do? You know what I mean?

[Alex]

It sucks.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anytime. I think once you have wife and kids, that's when it gets confusing. Other than that, if you just out here, la vida loca by yourself, what is there to be confused by other than figuring out what you want to do with your life? I don't know. Chill. Manga 24:7 says, if you could erase one human emotion from existence, which would make life better to erase.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ooh, that's a good ass question.

[Alex]

Envy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Envy's a good one.

[Alex]

Everything falls under envy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Envy, bro. Envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Envy is a good one.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was gonna say anger, but anger.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can be motivated by envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I mean, and also anger sometimes is good. Like it's good to be angry about things. Like you should be angry when bad things happen in the world. And you want to change that. But just being envious just because someone got something more than you or just because you're not getting an opportunity someone else is getting. Yeah, that. Get that out of here, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just don't like irrational anger. Like when you hear the stories of. Like when you.

[Power Drill (Character)]

Ah, smells like my size. Tight, squishy, and most likely well lubricated because of the beans we had for dinner. You're quite bored. First day in prison and you're already farting. You're singing to me, boy. I always knew that you coming here was a blessing in disguise. Why you going to. By the time I'm done, those farts won't sound the same. Did you really think they call me Power Drill for nothing? Don't worry, I got your back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Literally the other day it was a mom who held a door for a woman at Petsmart. Petsmart. Now the mom is with her 20 year old daughter, she holds the door for a woman at petsmart. The woman walks in petsmart. The mom gets mad that the woman didn't say thank you. So the mom goes to the woman is like, yo, you didn't say thank you. Whatever, whatever. They get to arguing, blah, blah, blah. So the lady follows her out, follows the mom out the store, they get to fighting. Oh no. Follows her to the next store, they end up fighting somehow. And then the woman that she held the door for ends up pulling out a gun and killing the mother.

[Alex]

Oh, really?

[Chris]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like that's just irrational anger. Like what does that come from? That's not envy. What is that?

[Alex]

That's envy. I mean, not in that particular. She might not be enviously the other woman, but there's something missing in her life that's probably.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it's like there are these entitled people that I have enough. I'm just here to serve them. I don't exist. Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. What about the kid? It was a kid. I read a story the other day. The kid got fired from. Where did he get fired from? It was a fast food restaurant. It's slipping my mind right now, but he gets fired from the fast food restaurant, confronts the manager the next day, ends up shooting and killing the manager. 21 year old kid. Like, you can't love working at a fast food restaurant that fucking much, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like you gotta know, at 21 years old getting fired from one fast food restaurant. Restaurant. You can probably get a job at another fast food restaurant, bro. Yeah. You don't come back the next day. And the manager was like 32 years old. Oh, yeah. You understand what I'm saying? Getting killed by a 21 year old kid whose magazine lost his job. Like, I don't know. So I don't know. It's some type of irrational anger I would probably want to get rid of.

[Alex]

I felt that way. If you guys saw the clip of the guy going to the protest this weekend. I think it was in Denver.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hilarious.

[Alex]

It was funny, but I was just like, God, these people are all so fucking angry, man. You know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I don't know what got him so mad.

[Alex]

Well, he was looking for the smoke. I mean, him and his.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But nobody even touched him. Like, what did the guy say to him?

[Alex]

I ripped his glasses off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I must have saw two different.

[Alex]

Videos and ripped his glasses off.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, I thought he ripped his hat off.

[Alex]

That was his glasses.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't see him get touched. We talking about the same video? Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

When he called them maggots.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I didn't see him get touched at all. I just saw him take off after the kid.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Cause the kid, I think, yanked something off of him and that's why he took off.

[Chris]

Really?

[Alex]

And if they're prescription, I understand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I can't see shit. Then the video I had today not have that. I just saw the guy walking down the street.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was yelling, maggot. Cursing him out, saying Trump forever or something like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then he just. I thought he just took off running after the kid. Now, the kid, what? Somebody did trip him up. He fell the first time on his own, and then he went running again and somebody tripped him up. And you kept hearing people say, trip him. Trip him.

[Alex]

The kid ripped his glasses off. Really?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Don't touch people, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, see, that's different. See, I didn't know that.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right, next one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What else we got? What else we got? What else we got? Got Mr. Derek Jr. Said, what's one thing your kids taught you this year? Oh, my God. What are you talking about? The same thing they teach me every year. Patience.

[Andrew Schultz]

Humility. Really?

[Alex]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

They humble you. Them kids will humble you, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Break it down.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think I told you guys this when I was showering and my daughter walked in the bathroom. She looks at me, points at my dick and goes, mama. I was like, who is this more insulting to? You know what I mean? So, yeah, it's just humility. Every single day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's hilarious, bro. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

What about you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I didn't want to get this. Now I got to get this thought out of my mind. That's true. Like, what the fuck? That's crazy. What the fuck the Is going on, man? No, I'm the only person who's thinking that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was thinking it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's do one more, man. What else we got? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know what?

[Alex]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You might be right. What's his name? Maui Cardona. Says, man titties. The most embarrassing thing to have is a man.

[Alex]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Alex]

I'd say for white guys with bald being worse.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, nah, man. Man titties, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm gonna tell you, man titties.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know how you know, man titties are so embarrassing?

[Andrew Schultz]

They wear a shirt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People that wear shirts in the pool.

[Andrew Schultz]

But you can see right through it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like, God damn. And by the way, if you just took your shirt off, we wouldn't give a fuck.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know how much man titties be on the beach. Nobody's thinking about that. You know what I mean? Just take your shirt off. The fact you keep your shirt on lets us know you insecure. I know somebody. I'm gonna tell you something, man.

[Chris]

I have bad. Because I used to be chubby, and so I wear big shirts and walk like that. So that way the shirt would kind of like fall and not.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, wow.

[Chris]

And now I got. Now I got a hunchback.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Aw, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

See, I don't know why I said, what's so funny, Bunker?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I walk around with his nose held high, walking in the room.

[Andrew Schultz]

That was when I was a kid. Now woman in the roof, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So listen, Lil Duval, man, I seen Lil Duval punish somebody one time, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

For what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wearing a shirt. It's a peach.

[Andrew Schultz]

What he said. I mean, what do you say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because Duvall is really like a little kid. You know how a little kid will walk up to you and just say some shit like, hey, big nose, you know?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. What's wrong with your teeth? Like, some. Like that. Yeah. Well, we see duo swimming up to the guy in the ocean. He's like, you know, the Walt does like this when you about to say something stupid. He go, why you got your shirt on? Why you got your shirt on? No, right? That's the first. Then the second one is. Bet you won't take your shirt off. Man, leave him alone, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, because explaining yourself, like, explaining why you have it on is. Is just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the most hilarious genius of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it's no need to call out the man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just bring attention to the fact that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This guy got his shirt on in the pool.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why you wearing clothing in the water?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man. But by the way, the answer was even worse than this. The answer was because I used to be fetching back and I still got the roll.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, no.

[Chris]

See, come on, y' all evil. Both of y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All like, man, leave people the alone. Yo.

[Andrew Schultz]

Don'T you dare. I know. Don't you dare. Don't you play both sides. Don't you play.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I told them all in moments. Yo, leave people to alone. You can't leave people alone, cuz it's funny. Why do y' all want people to get left alone when it's funny? Would you rather to laugh or not, Bro?

[Andrew Schultz]

I would rather them laugh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I would rather laugh, man. Hope you laugh this week. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening.