The Ep-Files

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Brilliant Idiots – "The Ep-Files" (Released July 18, 2025)

Hosts:

• Charlamagne Tha God
• Andrew Schulz

Overview: In this episode titled "The Ep-Files," Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz delve deep into the controversial Epstein files, exploring their political ramifications, the roles of key political figures, and the broader implications for American democracy. The conversation is charged with candid opinions, sharp critiques, and a call for accountability within the political landscape.

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1. Introduction to "The Ep-Files"

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The episode begins with Charlamagne introducing the hosts as "The Brilliant Idiots," setting the stage for an unfiltered discussion on pressing issues. The focus quickly shifts to the Epstein files, a topic both controversial and pertinent to current political dialogues.

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2. The Epstein Files and Political Cover-Up

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Andrew Schulz initiates the discussion by highlighting the significance of the Epstein files, suggesting that their release could have profound implications on political standings:

"[...] It's a major cover up." [05:12]

Charlamagne Tha God echoes this sentiment, emphasizing bipartisan support for uncovering the truth behind the Epstein case:

"I love seeing the bipartisan support for uncovering it. It actually gives me some faith in humanity..." [13:36]

Both hosts argue that the Epstein files represent an "obvious cover-up," implicating various government officials and institutions in suppressing critical information.

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3. Donald Trump's Role and Promises

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Andrew Schulz critiques former President Donald Trump, asserting that his core appeal lies more in entertainment than politics:

"That flagrant interview is gonna get Trump elected. [...] the heart of Trump is not a politician, it's a fucking entertainer." [07:10]

They discuss Trump's promises regarding the Epstein files, foreign wars, and budget reductions, questioning his fulfillment:

"He does none of the shit that he promised he was gonna do." [73:24]

Charlamagne Tha God concurs, stating:

"If he fulfills promises, you get credit. If not, I'm the first person calling it out." [43:33]

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4. Democrats' Strategy and Accountability

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The conversation shifts to the Democratic Party's handling of political accountability. Andrew Schulz criticizes Democrats for their response to Trump's actions and their inability to effectively counter his strategies:

"They just stop thinking, don't take action to defeat a liar or someone that is not well to hold accountable." [07:22]

Charlamagne Tha God adds that Democrats have failed to build coalitions with Trump supporters, missing opportunities to regain lost votes:

"The smart Democrats [...] have been trying to find a way to build a coalition with MAGA and earn back some of the votes that they lost to Trump." [09:34]

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5. Midterm Elections and Future Implications

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The hosts analyze the potential impact of the Epstein files on the upcoming midterm elections. Andrew Schulz suggests that the release of these files could lead to significant Democratic gains:

"If Trump doesn't release the Epstein file, they're going to lose 40 seats." [66:05]

Charlamagne Tha God emphasizes the importance of Democrats leveraging this moment to hold Trump accountable:

"Democrats, if you choose to seize it, [...] do you want to win or do you want to say, I told you so?" [64:36]

They debate the effectiveness of holding politicians accountable versus simply engaging in "I told you so" rhetoric, stressing the need for strategic action to effect meaningful change.

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6. Pop Culture and Media Influence

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Shifting gears, the hosts discuss recent trends in pop culture, specifically the portrayal of Superman in media. Andrew Schulz critiques the newer representations, while Charlamagne Tha God appreciates certain creative directions:

"I thought it was really good. It was corny on purpose." [75:05]

They draw parallels between media representations and political narratives, highlighting how storytelling can influence public perception and political discourse.

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7. Personal Anecdotes and Community Engagement

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In a lighter segment, Andrew Schulz shares personal experiences related to community engagement and business ventures, including opening Crystal's franchises in South Carolina:

"We're opening up our second one in Walterboro. [...] We bought like 40 plus more jobs to the community of Walterboro." [70:27]

Charlamagne Tha God supports these initiatives, recognizing the positive impact on local communities:

"That's great." [71:33]

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8. The Role of Truth and Accountability in Politics

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A recurring theme is the necessity for truth and accountability in politics. Both hosts express frustration over politicians breaking promises and the electorate's struggle to hold them accountable:

"When you have a person like Trump who said he was gonna drain the swamp... but now you look just like the governments and just like the elites doing the same thing." [09:00]

They advocate for active citizen engagement to ensure that leaders fulfill their pledges, rather than resigning to complacency.

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9. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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As the episode wraps up, Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz reiterate the importance of holding politicians accountable and the role of media in shaping political narratives. They encourage listeners to remain vigilant and proactive in demanding transparency and honesty from their elected officials.

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Notable Quotes:

• Andrew Schulz at [05:12]:

  "It's a major cover up."

• Charlamagne Tha God at [13:36]:

  "I love seeing the bipartisan support for uncovering it. It actually gives me some faith in humanity..."

• Andrew Schulz at [07:10]:

  "That flagrant interview is gonna get Trump elected. [...] the heart of Trump is not a politician, it's a fucking entertainer."

• Charlamagne Tha God at [43:33]:

  "If he fulfills promises, you get credit. If not, I'm the first person calling it out."

• Andrew Schulz at [48:00]:

  "When you have a person like Trump who said he was gonna drain the swamp... but now you look just like the governments and just like the elites doing the same thing."

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Conclusion: "The Ep-Files" episode of The Brilliant Idiots offers a critical examination of the Epstein files' political implications, the shortcomings of both major political parties, and the urgent need for accountability and truth in governance. Through candid dialogue and incisive commentary, Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz challenge listeners to engage actively in the political process and advocate for a more transparent and honest political environment.

Transcript

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

We are the brilliant idiots Podcast back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hezekiah Walker.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hello.

[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm trying so hard to not do that.

[Andrew Schulz]

You can't do it like you used to, man. Cause they got that fucking fenty, Fentanyl, you know what I'm saying? That Rihanna baby powder and that motherfucker, that Rihanna makeup fucking people up, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Gotta be careful.

[Andrew Schulz]

We're just kidding. Kids don't do cocaine. Don't ever do.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Seriously, don't do it.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, serious. I've never done cocaine. I've done it by accident. And a blunt back in the day.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, really? You smoked it?

[Andrew Schulz]

I didn't mean to, but you know, I was just.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Had the best high.

[Andrew Schulz]

Somebody passed it around and I hit it. Now that I know what it is, I'm like, oh, and plus that high that night was incredible.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. You know, was it crack or coke that you was sprinkled on it?

[Andrew Schulz]

That was coke. It was, it was. They used to do the weed and put the coke on top of the weed. Yeah. Don't try that at home, kids. Please don't.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, don't, man. Stick to Adderall and the other stuff.

[Andrew Schulz]

Prescription shit.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Middle school. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

That was why somebody said that the other day. They was talking about how kids, kids. You said What?

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Don't do those either.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They're already on it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, it depends what you're doing it for.

[Charlamagne tha God]

To get into Harvard. Do it to get into Harvard. Even though you won't be able to because it's all foreign students.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, we didn't talk about last week. We didn't talk about where we went on vacation, man. You know what I'm saying? I was just sitting up here all nice and tanned.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Same.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean? We didn't tell him nothing. Where'd you go?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I went to Ibiza.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was lovely. Had a great time in Ibiza. Grown man time. Grown up time. I didn't really party. I think I'm done with the parties. I think we did talk a little bit about it.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's actually what I wanted to speak about. We talked on it briefly. Every day we would wake up 7 o', clock, 8 o'. Clock. Which is late for me. Cause I'm used to waking up at.

[Charlamagne tha God]

4 o' clock with the kids.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, no, that's right. So 7 o', clock, 8 o'. Clock. We would wake up and we would just be, you know, we wake up, probably work out or something. And then like all day we would just be on the beautiful beaches of Anguilla, drinking, having a good time. We would have dinner at like 7 o', clock, 7:30 every night. By 9 o', clock, 9:30, 10 at the latest, everybody was in bed. Sleep. Yeah. And I'm just like the dream. At one point I was like, yo, we are really fucking adults.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes, we are.

[Andrew Schulz]

We not going out nowhere. No, we don't want to stay up late just for the stake of being up. Part of a good vacation is getting that eight to nine hours.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Eight to nine hours. But day drinking, so you get your drunk on, you get fun during the day, but you recover. By the time you go to sleep, you're hydrated so you don't wake up hungover. If I drink at night, I'm hungover.

[Andrew Schulz]

And then when I'm on the beach, I'm not even drinking. Like, I guess it is alcohol, but I'm drinking rum.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And you know, that's all I'm drinking is rum drinking. Fruity. You're not actually sitting after BBCs.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, I love BBC. Y' all don't know what a BBC is. It's banana, Bailey and coconut with a rum topper. The fuck wrong with y'?

[Charlamagne tha God]

All?

[Andrew Schulz]

What y' all think of BBC? What else?

[Charlamagne tha God]

What else was going on?

[Andrew Schulz]

What y' all think of BBC was the whole Moral of the story is get your eight, nine hours of sleep on vacation is part of it, man. You know, I have officially reached a point in my life too where I am literally awacsing Minister Society. Talk to me if you've ever seen Minister Society. Mch. Salute to mch. He hosts the Gangsta Chronicle podcast with my man Steele on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network. He played a character called AWACS in Minister Society. And he was a guy who did so much dirt on the come up that he got to a certain age where he didn't even really have to do the dirt anymore. Everybody. His reputation was solidified, but he used to watch everybody else do dirt. He was funny to us. I mean, he'd been putting at work for so long, it got to a point where he just like to see other people do dirt. And that's how I feel now, because the phone calls I get about Andrew Schultz, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, who did he shoot now? Okay, who the fuck got hit now? Okay. But the funny thing is, what am I supposed to do?

[Charlamagne tha God]

What? What'd you get? Yeah, this week was fun.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, this week. This week was fun.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was so funny, bro. The news with. They just went crazy, bro. The White House responding. Yeah, fire though, but that's kind of five. What do you.

[Andrew Schulz]

I have White House. Kendrick didn't. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Kendrick, Kendrick. That's good. Kendrick was like, I'm good. The White House is like, no, Nope, nope, nope. But you know why?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I know why we're going.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because you have. I mean, Flagrant is such a huge podcast. Trump came on Flagrant and had a fantastic interview. I told you, there's plenty of people that said to me, hey, that flagrant interview is gonna get Trump elected. So it don't matter what the CNNs or the MSNBC's got to say about Trump. That's the audience he cares about. Because at the end of the day, the heart of Trump is not a politician, it's a fucking entertainer.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He's listening.

[Andrew Schulz]

So if the entertainers are shitting on me. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Can you imagine that, bro? Forget all the journalists.

[Charlamagne tha God]

This is the thing. This is the thing. Because he's already set up the system where you don't have to trust the journalists. And the journalists have done a great job of not being trusted.

[Andrew Schulz]

Not being trusted.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's very simple. But, like, this is the thing that you gotta realize is you have to hold him accountable to his promises. So I know there's tons of people who just want to say I told you so and they want to say you got duped and all this other stuff. You could say whatever you want. You're totally fair to say it. I don't give a fuck. The point is, if he makes promises that I want him to execute that I think that a lot of other people want him to execute, I. E. Revealing something about this Epstein case where a thousand girls were victimized and then he tries to act like he's just sweeping under the rug. I know how transactional he is with the media.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm gonna hold him to it and I'm gonna voice my displeasure. And what you will see, I believe in the next week is that they're gonna try to reveal something and then try to appease the public a little bit more. Cuz they realize it's not a story that they could spoil.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, he's already setting it up. He's already setting it up by saying things like, you know, the Epstein files are a hoax. They were created by Barack Obama and the Biden administration.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He could say whatever he wants. You said this was all a hoax.

[Andrew Schulz]

Has your Attorney General told you this was a hoax? What evidence have you seen of it? No, it's not the Attorney General. No, I know it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats. It's been run by the Democrats for four years. You had Christopher Wray and these characters and Comey before him and it's a bad group. It started actually look at the Steele dossier. That turned out to be a total hoax. The 51 agents, the intelligence, so called intelligence agents. It was a hoax. It's all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats and like so, so when you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He can say whatever he wants, but we're not going to let our foot off the gas because it's something very important. Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like if I was Democrats, I would never let my foot off the gas. Because this is your thing that allows you to connect with the MAGA base. Let's be clear, ever since Donald Trump won, all of these different Democrats have been trying to find ways to connect with the MAGA base. They've been trying to find ways to connect with people outside of their bubble. Right. That's why Gavin Newsom do that corny ass podcast where he sits with the other side but doesn't really challenge them on anything. Right. But with this right here, there's one thing that connects a lot of Americans, if you ask me what the base of The MAGA movement is. This is my personal opinion. I think it's conspiracy and I think it's white supremacy. Right. So you can connect on the conspiracy part, because if you want that base to listen to you, then you gotta talk about things that they care about.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Could I add a caveat to that?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What if you said mistrust or distrust of government institutions and elites?

[Andrew Schulz]

I think, yeah, I think that's part of it. And I think that when you have a person like Trump who said he was gonna drain the swamp and he was calling out the government and calling out the elites, but now you look just like the governments and just like the elites doing the same thing. Yo, we said it on the POD last week. The worst part about being in those positions, eventually you become just like the people, right? So eventually those people that you voted for that you thought was going to be different ended up being exactly the same. Now, there's a lot. There's a lot of places we can go with this conversation. Right. People will say things like, but wait, I don't want to move too far.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Away because you said. A great point.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The smart Democrats, ever since the loss in the election.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Have been trying to find a way to build a coalition with MAGA and earn back some of the votes that they lost Trump. They're not really trying to convince maga. MAGA is going to Trump no matter what. Some of them are doing the mental gymnastics to try to, like, justify what Trump. Trump is doing. Like, there's a.

[Andrew Schulz]

When I say mag, I just mean people who voted for Trump.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Got it, Got it. But, like, you have to kind of parcel it because there's a lot of people who are disillusioned with the Democrats and their offerings. And the fact that they ran a dead guy for four years and nobody said anything about it, talks about that.

[Andrew Schulz]

All of this, go, go, go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We go, we'll get to it. But like, so I think what the smart Democrats are doing, I mean, like, Mark Cuban hit me up immediately. He was like, that's great. The pod sake of America guys hit me up. And they're like, this is good that they're holding them accountable. But what you've also noticed is while there's the Trump grifters, there's also the anti Trump grifters. And they don't care about the midterms. They don't care about the next election. All they care about is being right. Being right and continuing to get engagement, engagement, clicks, views. The same thing that the Trump grifters are doing. And it's very selfish, Right? You're masquerading as these people fighting for democracy. All you do is fighting for your own views. You're pathetic. Shut the fuck up. So what they're doing right now is this, like, I told you so shit. Instead of realizing, oh, shit, this is a moment where, like, Trump's base is feeling like he lied to them and feeling like he's not going to deliver on a promise, why don't we offer them something and bring them back home? By back home, I mean all the people that were lifelong Democrats.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's because the Democratic Party is still in shambles. And it doesn't matter if the Republicans fumble or Trump fumbles, because they don't have the team to properly recover the ball. If I'm a Democrat, right? And I'm not talking about one of these elite Democrats that have been around for a long time. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the Rokhanas of the world. I'm talking about Bernie Sanders, the aoc. Bernie's a little older. Like, even though he is a leader. But he's.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All I'm saying, pull that side of the party.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

But all I'm simply saying is don't ever stop talking about the Epstein issue. Why? Because it's the only issue that has ever made the people who voted for Trump be like, that's fucked up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

It hasn't been deportation. No, it hasn't been. It wasn't Doge.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They don't care.

[Andrew Schulz]

In little, little ways.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They protect the car. That's not even the budget. He said he was going to drop the deficit or whatever the fuck it is, and now he's bumping it up. Four trillion or three trillion dollars. They don't care.

[Andrew Schulz]

None of that may wait. And it pisses me off. Just watch all of these Democrats be on cnn, be on MSNBC and say, why do they care about this? Why do they care about the Epstein thing? This is the things that are affecting their everyday life. Shut the fuck up and learn how to fucking play politics. This is your transgenders in Sports moment.

[Charlamagne tha God]

There you go. Hold it.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is your Transgender in Sports moment. They never let that shit go. Everybody remember, Chris, what did you used to say all the time about the transition? Sports?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Why do people. Why do people care about this? Why do people care about that?

[Andrew Schulz]

Shut the fuck up and learn how to play politics. I would never stop talking about the Epstein issue because it's the only thing that connects you to the MAGA base. And it's what they actually care about.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And if you think it's a nothing burger, then exposing it is nothing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

If you think there's no conspiracy or anything like that, then just expose it, because there's no conspiracy. But if you. If you think there's no conspiracy and you're for not releasing it now, I've got some questions about your intentions.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm never stop talking about the Epstein files. Number one, it's a major cover up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I love seeing the bipartisan support for uncovering it. It actually gives me some faith in humanity that there are people that aren't playing politics and they're just like, hey, there's a thousand underage girls that have been victimized. Maybe they should get a little justice. That'd be kind of cool. And there are these seemingly elites and government institutions and banks who might be able to get away with breaking the law all the fucking time. And just maybe, just maybe in our lifetime, just maybe they get a little justice. I don't see why all Americans wouldn't want that.

[Andrew Schulz]

I asked some people, asking people in the Democratic Party how come when Biden was in office, they didn't really pursue the Epstein thing? And they told me it's because they don't really dwell in conspiracy. Okay, fine. Well, guess what? It's not a conspiracy anymore. It's an obvious cover up. So can you constantly bring up the obvious coverup?

[Charlamagne tha God]

He's a registered sex offender that got a sweetheart deal. Ghislaine is in jail for 20 years for child sex trafficking. So there's no conspiracy. The conspiracy is if the government was the one that was organizing the blackmail ring or if he was a government asset of the United States. I've been hearing that too, Et cetera. So, like, these are the conspiracies. Is. Are the governments making him do these things or were. Was he doing this thing already and the government was using it as an asset to get access to these different people. Maybe they're using it to ship guns around the world. They're using it to hide money. Who the fuck knows exactly what they do? But we know that governments engage in individual people to do nefarious acts that cannot reflect back on the government. We know that this is happening for years. This is how it works.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay. So that I guess you could go the conspiracy. But let's not act like this is nothing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, the conspiracy is. Pam Bondi told us that the Epstein list was on her desk. Now they're saying it doesn't exist, but now they're saying it does. Exist. But it was written by Biden in the Obama.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Get out of here, Comey.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's an obvious coverup. My point is Democrats don't, don't ever stop talking about it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But it is, by the way, Republicans.

[Andrew Schulz]

Still haven't stopped talking. They still haven't stopped talking about the trans and sports issue right now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

To this day.

[Andrew Schulz]

To this day.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But what is interesting is like, and I get. So I'm on the pod and I'm just like, you know, the things that he's doing right now, very specifically, I'm talking about the Epstein cover up. I'm talking about ending foreign wars, increasing the budget. Like, these are these specific things that I haven't seen.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nobody give a fuck about none of that shit like they do Epstein.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But here's the thing. I was like, these are not the things that I voted for. And then the initial reaction was like, is exactly what you voted for. I'm like, no, if I wanted to vote for those things, I would have voted for Kamala. That's what she was going to stand for. She wasn't going to release the Epstein stuff. We were going to continue foreign wards and we were going to get the budget increase. Those are all things that Democrats would have done and they ran on doing. And we know that that was going to happen because that is a status quo.

[Andrew Schulz]

Trump told you he was going to stop the wars. Trump said they were going to release the Epstein files. He said it on Fox Friends.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

He said that they were going to decrease the deficit.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

He actually created this organization called doge. Here's the thing that I'm telling you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Can I just ask.

[Andrew Schulz]

Good.

[Charlamagne tha God]

In this case. So given my, my position.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right. Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Like, and I'm not some right wing cult or left wing cult. I'm a free American. I'll say whatever the I want and I'll hold people accountable, especially while they're in power. I think that's when you should hold them accountable the most. What? What? There's a lot of people that were like, there's this massive media story and like, you should have known and all this stuff. You got duped. Fair. I got duped. Fair. If he doesn't do any of those things he said he did, you can say fair. I got duped. What is the alternative? The alternative is just voting for the other side that's gonna do those things and runs on doing those things that I say not to.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let's stay here for a minute because this is the conversation we had off air. There's nothing wrong with saying, you got got. But guess what? That's what politicians job is to do to get you. To get you. They go out there and they tell you everything that you want to hear in order to get you to vote for them. I said it last week on the podcast and I've been saying it for years. Donald Trump is the best at telling everybody what they want to hear, exactly what it is they want to hear. Now people will say, well, you know, well, and this is an example I'll give. And I saw this on the Daily show and I thought it was hilarious. They showed Donald Trump talking about the flooding in Texas.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And he was like, we've maxed out on Texas. We gonna give Texas everything. Whatever they need, they got it. You know, if you on the right, you on Texas, you hear that? You like? Yeah, that's my guy. Then they show him talking about the wildfires in California. He was like, I don't think they should get nothing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The Trump that you're just experiencing now, to your deep disappointment and dismay, is.

[Andrew Schulz]

The dude we've been dealing with the whole time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You just didn't realize it cuz he's been nice to you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like when you've had a terrible tragedy. My administration's doing everything in its power to help Texas. We gave them all the money, all the help that they can possibly use. We've given them max, we've maxed out, and we'll continue to max out.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Whatever you need. Daddy's here because you're the child he wanted.

[Andrew Schulz]

But we're Eric.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And this.

[Andrew Schulz]

Truly just a weird cheap shot.

[Charlamagne tha God]

This is how we get treated.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't think we should give California anything.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I mean, if I give California money, then every state that didn't vote for me will think I'm their president too.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right? So if you on the left, you're like, that motherfucker's fucked up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

If you're on the right, you're like.

[Andrew Schulz]

So depending on what you're tuned into the most, if you're watching msnbc, cnn, you're gonna see one thing. If you're watching Fox, you're gonna see another thing. My stupid ass watches it all. And being that I watch it all, I see it all and I see exactly what he's doing and I see exactly why it works. Now here's the conversation nobody wants to have. Democrats, you do the same exact thing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Uh oh, careful, Charlemagne, careful. This might be a national news story that the, you know, I don't give a, that the White House responds, but.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, I Don't give a.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're holding Democrats accountable. God forbid.

[Andrew Schulz]

Democrats. Not only did they do it, you got got right. Y' all got got right. You believed the stuff that was coming out of his mouth. Democrats knew they was bullshitting us with Joe Biden. Nobody wants to talk about buyers remorse.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How so?

[Andrew Schulz]

By running him for more than one term. They knew he was too. Motherfucker. Jake Tapper just wrote a whole book about it called the Original Sin, where he talks about all of these people in the Democratic Party who covered up on purpose.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Come on, Chris.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hold on one second. Let him make the argument.

[Andrew Schulz]

Coming to. I'm bringing. I'm bringing it all around, right? Democrats did all of this shit for three, four motherfucking years, lying about President Biden. Right? It's because of that lie that we're in this position.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Elizabeth Warren is still lying to this day about it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because if Democrats would have did one thing, if they would have did what.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You did, hold the people that you vote for in power accountable, say we got got, but instead you're quiet, you fall in line, and then you fuck yourself in the long run.

[D]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And then you put out a book like Jake Tapper. You were saying also Corinne, Corrine Jean.

[Andrew Schulz]

Pierre, his press secretary, literally, the President. Jean Pierre is an independent now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

She's like, I can no longer support the Democratic Party. Okay? So you did it for four years. You lied on behalf of them for four years. You covered up the fact that he's seen out for four years. You put the Democratic Party, not only you, but you are accountable for the lack of a candidate that they had to run and the lack of opportunity for them to actually build a campaign for someone that America actually likes. This is what I'm saying. You could criticize me all you want.

[Andrew Schulz]

One more thing to that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

America told both parties this is not what we wanted. Say that louder. Democrats and Republicans both said, we do not want a Trump Biden rematch. I remember being on the View and I said, both candidates suck. Go look at the statistics. Go look at what people are saying. Nobody wants this, right? And I said, the first person who replaces their candidate, which somebody fresh and new is going to win. The problem with the Democrats, they did it way too late.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And it wasn't fresh and new.

[Andrew Schulz]

It wasn't fresh and new. I love the vp, but they did it too late and it wasn't fresh and new. I saw Ro Khanna say something on flagrant where he talked about when you look at Trump or you look at a Vance or you look at Mandani, right? Trump has been in office five years. Vance has been in office five years. They're still looked at as relatively fresh and new.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And you look at one of the reasons Trump been Vance, one look at how many years collectively they've been in elective office. Trump like five and Vance has been like five years. Now you look at the amount of years that Biden and Harris were collectively in elective office. And the reality is the longer you stay in, people think, okay, I gotta just say everything to keep my position.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wandani didn't even think he was going to win. So he's coming up with all these fresh new ideas. If you give people the status quo quo, they will rebel. They'll expect it and rebel against because.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They'Re unhappy with the status quo.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nobody wants to admit we're in this situation because people just simply did not listen to America.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And, and, and, and furthermore, I just want to point out that, like, if there were Democrats that broke free and said that Trump, sorry, that Biden was actually senile, they were met with intense criticism, right? Intense, intense criticism, right. They're called all sorts of like other horrible things, et cetera. But that is the cost for honesty and the cost for success. So who knows, maybe saying, hey, Trump, you're fucking, you ran on this thing and now you're shying away from it. Maybe that leads to them actually releasing some more stuff about the Epstein files. And if that does, it's a great example of how you hold the people in power accountable. If they did that with Biden immediately, if all those people that covered it up, if all the people that were afraid of speaking up because they were worried they were going to get shunned, or they were afraid that Republicans would use it against him, they would say.

[Andrew Schulz]

You ran that guy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That was senile. And now the second you win, you say that he's senile. That's fucked up. The exact same thing that happened to me. Like, you're going to deal with scrutiny, but it is the right honest thing to do. If that's what you care, if you actually care about what's happening in the country.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. And listen, man, there's things. Here's the thing about a campaign. A campaign is just that, a campaign. I'm going to go on the campaign trail and I'm going to say every single thing I need to say to get people behind me. Yo, I love the vp, but you can't go on the View and say you're not going to do nothing different when people are upset than President Biden when he's got the lowest approval rating ever.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You got to tell people shit that you can't even do. I mean, look, shout out Mandani. But he's like, we're going to raise taxes. It's not even in his power to raise taxes. You got to go to Albany, that shit. But he's saying something that's going to help that people feel that is going to help them, and maybe he executes it. That's potentially possible.

[Andrew Schulz]

They made it easy for Trump to finesse people and it's okay to say, you got got. Chris, am I bugging here?

[D]

I didn't get that.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the people that voted for him. Chris.

[D]

He'S been a con man talking to Mike. He's been a con man for 50 years.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I've heard this. Who started argument, too. Listen, I've heard this.

[D]

I don't want, I don't want to play the I told you so game. It's not helpful in the moment.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It feels good. Yeah, but it's not.

[D]

All right, but I'm not doing it.

[Andrew Schulz]

You can say it, but don't stay there.

[D]

I can't.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's the thing. I don't, I don't subscribe to this idea that nothing happens. I think Trump is so transactional with his base that if his base shows that they want something enough, it will come out. Like, we have seen this.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's very rare that he'll ain't coming out.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, I think that, I think in my estimation, and within the next week or two, we get more revealed from. They're going to find a. What's it called?

[Andrew Schulz]

Redacted?

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, they're going to find like a patsy. They're going to find someone that they can play some blame on.

[D]

But at this point, who's going to believe anything that comes out? At this point, nobody's going to believe.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It will never be enough. But I think that he has no choice but to reveal more here. I think if, if, if he continue like they said, they're going to send $10 billion to the Ukraine or whatever. The base is going to find out about this shit and hear. And continue to hear about this, and they're going to revolt.

[Andrew Schulz]

They just gave Elon another 2 billion for AI project.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Not upset at that. I'm more. I'm more upset at the foreign wars. Like, I want the wars done. I'm tired of seeing fucking Gaza turn into fucking rubble. Two years into this thing, there's just tens of thousands of people fucking dead. And here's the reality to that point too.

[Andrew Schulz]

They didn't. This is where, this is where Biden and Harris, they fucked up. They didn't.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They would stop it. They ran on it. So all these people that are virtue signaling and all these people are patting themselves on the back, it's like, yeah, you voted for the people that are going to continue to fund and murder those fucking innocent people.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why do you think Gaza, why?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't think it's that hard an idea to vote for the person who said they're going to stop it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think Michigan rebelled against Kamala like that. Like Dearborn literally showed up for Trump.

[D]

Because Trump sounds like, I told you so. But if Jared Kushner is your son in law, you know he's fucking giving Israel everything.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What's the alternative?

[Andrew Schulz]

Chris? Chris, you're right.

[D]

I would have. I would have picked the alternative. I picked.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no, no, I know you would have, but like, what is the alternative? To cast your vote for the people who are telling you to your face they are going to continue funding the mass murder of tens of thousands of.

[Andrew Schulz]

People are taking a chance on the person who's telling you. They go, stop it. I didn't vote. I didn't vote for Trump. But I could tell you, I'm taking, I can tell you why he won.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm taking the chance of the people that are telling me to my face we're going to keep funding this shit. Like, I'm sorry, that's kind of your.

[Andrew Schulz]

Heart a little bit. Dude, this is why Dems are not black and white. But listen, this is why Dims, of.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Course you wouldn't, because you voted for the people that said they're going to keep doing it. And you don't want to realize that's reality.

[Andrew Schulz]

Chris, this is why Dems aren't going to win any future elections because you're still too emotional about it. Everybody gotta take a step back and deal with strategy.

[D]

I hear what you're saying.

[Andrew Schulz]

So you can see why Trump won.

[D]

Yeah, sure.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's all I'm saying. So these guys, so the people that got, I can understand how they got.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Got Democrat comes out in this next election and they're like, you know what? Trump didn't stop those foreign wars. But one of the first things that I'm gonna do is I'm gonna put a stop to the funding for Israel bombing Gaza, blah, blah, God forbid we're still into that thing. Do they have your support as long.

[D]

As Taiwan gets support? Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But you know what I'm saying, Like, isn't that compelling a little bit to you? Like, while people struggle here in the United States, like, we're complicit in the bombing of this place?

[D]

Of course I don't support this shit. I'm just. I don't even know what I'm saying.

[Andrew Schulz]

Also, people are one issue voters. True.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's the thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Most people are one issue voters.

[D]

Well, that's why I'm exactly who you're describing when you're saying what about. Because in my mind, and I guess I'm saying it right now, I'm like, what happened with the victims of Epstein in that ring is. Is horrific. But what's going to happen to all the babies who lose access to medical health because of the reduction of funding and services throughout. In America, throughout the world is also horrific to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Chris, everything you're saying is right. I'm not. I don't.

[D]

I guess I don't understand why one resonates so strongly with people and another doesn't.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because you're a Democrat.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Media.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're a Democrat.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I think that you make a great point, by the way. I do think he makes a great point. And I think it's media attention. And I think if the same media attention.

[D]

It's not a sexual.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, it's not media attention.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, what is it?

[Andrew Schulz]

Chris is a Democrat.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what Democrats do? They don't listen to what people are actually into. I'm like, they focus on what they're.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Into, what they feel.

[Andrew Schulz]

So fuck if the people are going for Bernie. No, no, no. Let's push Hillary. No, no, no, no, no, no. Not Mondani. Let's go. Let's go.

[D]

Cuomo voted for Bernie.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know. I'm not talking about. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're talking about the party. The party will put whoever they want to put as the candidate, even if the people rebuke it. And yo, they're right now, bro. I know in our hands, it's crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Is the Epstein thing that Democrats should never stop talking about. And I'm watching these talking heads on TV that are Democrats saying, why do people care about this? I'm like, stephen they Smith. Oh, Stephen they Smith.

[D]

I think some Democrats think it's a trap. I feel that way somehow.

[Charlamagne tha God]

A trap.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's why they. But listen to what I said, Chris.

[D]

Earlier, because I think I wouldn't put anything past Trump right now. He might release the Redacted files, whatever he calls them, which somehow exonerate him. He'll say anything, Chris.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Isn't that still good? Like, don't. What you're saying is. Hold on. What you're saying is we shouldn't put pressure on him to release the files. Hold on. Because then if he does, he'll get credit for releasing the files. At a certain point in time, you gotta put the fucking thousand girls that were victimized over your political aspirations.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, you don't. And let's. No, no, no. And I'm saying that. Let me tell you how the truth. This is a lie. That lie, that they're putting these women over their political aspirations is bullshit, and you know it. All of it is about political aspirations. They're only going to push the FCA if they see the political advantage that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You were saying that as you. I just want to clarify.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm saying that as politicians.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Politicians don't care about. They're using it for their own political advantage.

[Andrew Schulz]

And, Chris, I've said this for weeks on this podcast. The future Democrats have to throw the old regime under the bus. We know for a fact in those Epstein files, if there's anybody from the Democratic Party in there, which I'm sure it is, it's all old regime facts. I guarantee you it's all old regime. Bye. Run them over with a truck. I'm going to fuck who it is. If you're an old regime, you got to go. Therefore, the younger people, like I said earlier, the Ro Khannas, the AOCs, they should be constantly holding onto the Epstein files, constantly bringing it up, and constantly demanding that they get released. And if they get released, and it's the old regime of the Democratic Party, fuck them.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Roe put an amendment in Congress, or he announced amendment. He handed it over to, like, the committee that allows bills to even go to Congress. I didn't even know that shit existed. There's a committee, I think of like nine Republicans and I think four Democrats that decide if a bill can't even be voted on. And the bill was just to release the full Epstein files. And I think seven of the nine, or like eight of the nine Republicans said no to the bill. What are you saying no to? And I understand. Oh, there's some names that are in these files, but they might not actually be incriminated with anything. So we should protect their identity so they're not. They're not. They're not negatively impacted just because they're in the thing without actually doing anything. I get that argument.

[Andrew Schulz]

Redact the Victims relief to client list.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, there is no, like, client list. What I think that you got to do is just there's a couple things that you got to do.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's not a client list.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, there's no, like, list of all things. So there are a couple things that we could bare minimum do. The reason they were able to try Epstein again is because when he got that sweetheart deal in Florida, right? What? In order to accept that plea deal, you have to inform the victims of the plea deal. And they never inform the victims, obviously, because if they informed him, they would have fucking went crazy. Because this was an unbelievable sweetheart deal when you have, like, I think 40 victims or all these different people coming forward. So because of that, they were to wipe it clean. So what I say, bare minimum, is just give us all the information of the federal investigation. Remember, this is the feds on him back in 2005. I think it was 2005 to 2008. That was now wiped clean. His amnesty or immunity or whatever it is was wiped clean. Release all that information, bare minimum. Furthermore, anybody who's had business dealings with him after he was considered a registered sex offender, in my opinion. We don't have to redact your name.

[D]

You knew what you're getting into.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know, we don't have to redact your name. Dude, if you're going to the guy's house after he's a registered sex offender, think about it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Riding on his plane.

[Charlamagne tha God]

There are people that won't come on a podcast, there are politicians that won't come on a podcast during this last election because they were nervous about being around certain people.

[Andrew Schulz]

Radioactive.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Go to a pedophile's fucking house and stay overnight. Get out of here. So bare minimum, we release that and secondarily, you follow the money. You can redact any names you want, but we need to know those bank records. There was a lawsuit, I think, with Deutsche bank that was banking him and J.P. morgan, and I think they had to pay out tens of maybe hundreds of millions. I forget exactly what it was to certain victims. You release that file. We want to know all the business dealings, where the monies are going to which shell companies the money are going to. You'll find everything from the money. Do I think it's like a government formulated blackmail scheme with child sex trafficking? No. Do I think that he was involved in nefarious activities on behalf of multiple governments? Probably. And because of that, they looked the other way on his disgusting and heinous pedophilia that he did for fucking decades. I Think they basically saw that and they're like, yeah, but this guy rubs shoulders with all the most wealthy people in the world and all the most influential people in the world. This is a small net group. So what we're going to do is we're going to keep our fucking claws in this guy and he's going to tell us anything that we need to know. As it goes forward, the Internet has probably turned into something else.

[D]

Slight twist. My suspicion.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Go, go, go, go.

[D]

Nothing to base this on.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[D]

But just the way the world works. I suspect Epstein was going to do this regardless of any other governments. And I think an opportunistic government caught wind about it and was like, this is the honeypot. We can totally compromise half of the U.S. now, was it within the U.S. was it outside of the U.S. i don't think we're ever going to know the truth, unfortunately. And I think the thing that Trump has done, which is very clever but also very damaging to the country, is already question the authenticity of anything that's going to come out from this point forward. Because he said, well, Obama wrote this report anyway.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but you can't say that. Here's the thing.

[D]

But he said it.

[Andrew Schulz]

But here's the thing. The Epstein thing, Chris, was the one thing that all of those people on the right were paying attention to the most. They are the ones who amplified this and say, these things have to come out. They know this shit better than most, like, from top to bottom. They was like, you never said this before about Obama, right? They said, and you can't.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And if Obama wrote it and it was good, they would have released it during Biden because they had the whole thing during Biden. So don't tell me that it's just some. We're going to only put the Republican members of Congress and the Republican politicians in here because Obama wrote it. The Democrats decided not to release any of the information to me that shows mutually assured destruction.

[Andrew Schulz]

Destruction. Why are we complicating this?

[D]

We throw them under the bus.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Maybe my dad was on the plane. I don't think he was, but if my dad was on the plane. Chris, you got to go.

[Andrew Schulz]

I've already told you all the future of the Democratic Party depends on the people now throwing the old regime under the bus. Ro Khanna. Who? Whoever. The Buddha. Judges of the world.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You ready?

[D]

Clinton has that much juice anymore.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You ready? Watch this, watch this, watch this.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. You ready?

[Charlamagne tha God]

The Democrats. If the Democrats force Trump's hand and use Congress to release the Epstein file or information about The Epstein. And there is a release that is done because of Democrats Trump being completely reluctant to release it.

[Andrew Schulz]

But Democrats get all the credit for something good. Finally.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hey, if they.

[Andrew Schulz]

What the fuck? Why is this so hard?

[Charlamagne tha God]

They do that. 2028 is them.

[Andrew Schulz]

Come on.

[D]

I don't care.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Ro just tried it.

[C]

So they're not going to be able to do it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What I'm saying, if you keep on pushing it, just forgetting. You keep on pushing, and you might have to throw some people under the bus.

[Andrew Schulz]

You have to.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But don't you want to be the party? I mean, you are the party of progress. You are the party that protects women. Don't you want to be the party? If we are disgustingly looking this only through the lens of, like, political advantage, don't you want to be the party that got justice for a thousand underage girls that were victimized?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, people.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Don't you want to be that?

[Andrew Schulz]

People want honesty. People want transparency. If we really just base honesty and transparency in government off, like, the past two, three years, you're not gonna. There's only, like, a couple of people you can point to and say, that person was right. Dean Phillips was right. Dean Phillips.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What did Dean say?

[Andrew Schulz]

Dean was one of the first people saying, yo, Biden is too old to run. He was telling the truth. There's nothing you can say about Trump that people didn't already know that Trump had been. Depending on what you were listening to, you could hear and see the truth about Donald Trump. The funny thing about the Trump shit, I love when people say it was right there in Project 2025. Now, I'm gonna tell y' all something.

[C]

A lot of it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I got gifted project 2025, probably two years ago at this point. That shit is almost 900 pages long. I tried reading some of that shit. I'm like, I don't. I don't care that much. So I know most people did not read 900 pages of Project 2025. Stop telling me that this shit was.

[D]

In Project 2025 to 785 all night.

[Andrew Schulz]

But, Chris, you're an author and a reader.

[D]

I'm joking. I didn't read it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, you see what I'm saying? Most people saw a meme and they don't even know if the shit that was in the meme was true. So stop saying, oh, you saw it in Project 25. 2025. That's what you voted for. No. If you actually watch Fox News and you actually pay attention to what the other side was saying, I could have matter of fact. Not coulda. I did tell y' all why people was voting for Trump. Did I agree with it? No, but I could tell you why he was going to win. I didn't think you were going to win, though. But he did. Yeah, but I understand why he won.

[C]

I do think that he's going to release it or release more, because that's why he's. Look, that's why he's trying to muddy the file now by saying all these. All my enemies wrote the file. So now he has some plausible deniability for. That's not the original file that we had. That's what they wrote.

[Andrew Schulz]

We all know what's going to happen. Yo, we all know what's going to happen.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But here's the thing, Charlotte.

[Andrew Schulz]

We know what's going to happen.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Here's the thing. And this is the thing that I don't think Democrats are considering right now. They have an opportunity to put pressure and be part of the release on this. But here's the thing. They don't realize. If they spend their time doing I told you so. Right? If they spend their time doing I told you so and virtue signaling, and then Trump actually does release it, they're toast. The last thing you want to do is not be part of the release. If Trump releases it, you have to act like you forced his hand. What you can't do is act like you're not interested in releasing it. And then he goes, you know what? Fuck it. Release that shit. And then he's the hero. He does the thing that the bases wanted.

[Andrew Schulz]

So you have never had.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, Fair enough was they won.

[D]

Maybe he might be crazy enough.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He might be crazy enough to do it.

[D]

Like, I slept with a couple girls. They were all.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, he.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Honestly, he might.

[D]

I'm telling you, he might be crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He might be crazy enough to do it. And the fact that he does it, they might be crazy enough to forgive him. Not for underage girls, but he might be crazy enough to forgive him for, like, some prostitute shit. As long as he says they're older.

[D]

Rough period.

[C]

They already have.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Right. So what I'm trying to say is, and I mean this sincerely, I thought about this. Democrats.

[D]

If.

[Charlamagne tha God]

If you allow Trump to feed the base exactly what he needs and act like you're the one impeding it, not the one pushing it, you toast.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know why y' all be.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're toast.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know why y'. All.

[D]

Dershowitz tried this already. It's not crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You saw it.

[D]

He did it years ago. No, but I was There, I got a massage. I kept my underwear on.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know why y' all be getting got. Because y' all believe. What, be like me, be a curmudgeon? I don't believe in that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You believe Kamala would win?

[Andrew Schulz]

I did. You believe anything, and that's why I.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You believe in Bigfoot?

[Andrew Schulz]

You believe in Dallas Cowboys?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let me tell you something.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You believe Donald Trump is the only thing you don't believe.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what Donald Trump is gonna do? He's already set the stage. This is the Democrats. The Democrats. Democrats wrote this, Democrats wrote this. Democrats wrote this. One day we just gonna be online, and all of a sudden, some Epstein files gonna be circulating on social media, and everybody will be like, oh, shit, they released the Epstein files. They never gonna confirm if it's real or not. And it's gonna be some complete bullshit. It's gonna be some complete. There's gonna be a bunch of dead people on there. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, this person. He's dead. This person's dead. Watch. It's just gonna be some complete bullshit.

[D]

Churchill shit on the way to Epstein Island.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. It'll be some dead people and a couple of folks that they just really, truly don't give a fuck about. People that they might have already ousted out of government. You know what I mean? Al Franken might be on, like, dumb shit like that. Like, silly, stupid shit, and you're going to be like, oh, it's possible. That's.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That.

[D]

That's.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's. That's possible.

[C]

But whoever he gets to do that, they better be strategic with it, because the way they put that video out, and we saw in the metadata how it was an edited file of two separate clips.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They can't stop it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Have to be a video.

[C]

No, but I'm just saying he fucked up already with the video, trying to pretend like that was the real shit. So if he does what you're saying, they better do it in a way that. Because if he tries that and are.

[D]

Able to, usually only hires the best people for jobs.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. Can I say something? If we're able to. I still haven't seen this. I still haven't seen this video y'.

[D]

All talking about, but video you've seen, it's just been.

[Andrew Schulz]

I haven't seen the video.

[C]

You saw it online.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I haven't. I've heard everybody talking about it, which goes back to another point that I was making. Just because we think everybody has seen something doesn't mean that they have. I have not seen Any Epstein videos. I've heard Cash Patel talk about it. I've heard other people talk about it. I've read. I know you have it. You see what the fuck I'm saying? No, like, but there's too much shit out here.

[C]

There's nothing seen in the video. It's literally hours of just nobody moving. Nothing. It's far away from his actual cell. It's like nothing's on the video. Yo, minute missing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How many. How many prisoners were in the jail cells around him? We can't talk to none of them, but you tell me none of them heard anything. None of them witnessed anything like, come on.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I'm gonna say another thing, man. And this is coming from a slightly. This is coming from a slightly bitter place. I don't want to hear I told you so from nobody. The reason I don't want to hear I told you so, especially Democrats, is because when we were out here saying shit like, joe Biden needs to step down, Joe Biden don't stand a chance.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They said you were a threat to democracy.

[Andrew Schulz]

They said I was a threat to democracy. They said I was helping.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They said you were working for Trump.

[Andrew Schulz]

They said I was working for motherfucking Trump.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And now. And now. What are they saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

Now everybody's like, he was. He should have stepped out two years ago. He said, God damn it. Really?

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's why I'm not tripping about the backlash right now. Because in a few weeks, when we hear some more Epstein shit or when he continues to not fill promises, or if he does start to fulfill, if he does fill promises, I'm going to give him all the fucking credit. I don't care. I call it like it is. If he fulfills promises, you get credit. We get that war stopped. We get shit settled in Ukraine. I'll give you all the fucking credit in the world.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, I do agree it is going. It always takes backlash from people to get governments to move.

[C]

There you go.

[Andrew Schulz]

And so they react to people. And if we're being completely honest, MAGA or just Trump supporters, period, are the only people who really bout that action. And that's who he cares about. Democrats can make all the noise they want and he will never give a fuck.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Dem's motivation is at least it's not him. Everything is at least it's not him. They build up the bad guy, they build up the opposition as the worst person ever, and then they just go, hey, at least it's not him. And that's how they trick us into voting for shitty candidates. The last at least it's not him. The last at least it's not him candidate we had was a guy named Barack Obama. And they didn't run on at least it's not him.

[Andrew Schulz]

They ran on hope, that motherfucker brilliance.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They ran on the talent and we fell in love with this guy. Everybody else is at least Hillary was at least it's not him. Stop, stop falling for this fucking trap where they just make it good versus evil and they could, hey, don't worry.

[Andrew Schulz]

About who he got.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It doesn't matter because at least it's not him.

[Andrew Schulz]

I forgot what poll it was, but 70% of all respondents did not want a Trump versus Biden.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We were all sitting here like why are we back in the same fucking situation?

[Andrew Schulz]

Nobody wanted this. That's why everybody has buyers remorse now. That's why Jake Tapper can come out with the original sin. That's why Corinne Jean Pierre can go independent. That's why Andrew Schultz is saying this is not what I voted for. It's why Rogan is saying, yo, this is not what I voted for. This is not what I wanted. This is why these things are happening. Cuz everybody has biased remorse. Democrats got bias remorse because they know they ran the wrong candidate for too long facts. And that's why we're in this motherfucker.

[D]

I think with the Democrats it's not as much, at least it's not him though that's how it was presented. It's just, it's a fractured party and I think fraction. Right. Well, it might not exist. It might not exist.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It might exist.

[Andrew Schulz]

Which is why it was fraction which is all the more reason for the Epstein list to come out. Because you know what people really want, Chris? And this is why, this is what's frustrating me about this whole thing, that this whole conversation. We are at a pivotal point right now, a tipping point to where we know what was and what is is not working. And we're at a point where we actually have the opportunity to build something new. But everybody's so busy pointing the finger like I told you so we told you this was gonna happen, blah blah, blah. Guess what? Everybody told everybody that it was going to happen. Hindsight is everybody Democrats told Republicans it was gonna happen. Republicans told Democrats it was gonna happen. Guess what? Now we're here, how do we move forward? How do we make sure none of us ever get got ever again? And how do we make sure that we get the candidates that we actually motherf.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We're always going to get got because the Game is selling dreams. You said this better than anybody else.

[Andrew Schulz]

But I don't know if we. I don't know, and I'm going to tell you why. Because of podcasting.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, that's fair.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's fair. I'm serious. Because we are not beholden to anybody.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no, that. That is fair. I guess what I'm trying to say is, like, no matter who sells us the best dream that we believe, it's still on us to hold them accountable. I think this thing happens where, like, once somebody that you vote for gets into power, there's this real, like, laziness that can happen. You just kind of sit back, relax, and watch the show and rose colored glasses.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You look at everything. Rose colored glasses, and it's like, no, no. That's when you actually need to be the most vocal, because that's the only chance you have to get the things that you want executed or you want.

[Andrew Schulz]

Your person to win. So when they come on your platform, you may not press them on all the things you want to press them on because you don't want them to have a bad moment.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, I think you got to ask all the questions.

[Andrew Schulz]

I do, too.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No matter what.

[Andrew Schulz]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Personally. But. But the what? I guess the point that I'm trying to say is that, like, so let's say a Democrat wins next election. Let's say it's Pete, let's say it's aoc. Let's say whoever it is, you don't just sit back and relax. What you do is remind them every day of the promises that they made. And then when they're not executing those promises, you hold them accountable. I think.

[Andrew Schulz]

What?

[Charlamagne tha God]

What? You can't hold the opposition accountable for not executing the things you want because they would never want to do them in the first place. So you can yell about them and complain about them, but you really can't make them do anything. But when people promise you something, when a politician promise you some shit, let's say Mamdani wins and he says he's going to increase taxes, and he doesn't actually have the power to do that. He has to get Albany to do it. You go, yo, you better get out there and convince Albany. You told us you were going to increase taxes on the rich and that was going to help the rest of us. Why isn't that happening? You got to hold them to that every single day.

[Andrew Schulz]

I agree.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You don't just sit back and relax. You go, oh, I guess he'll do it or figure it out.

[Andrew Schulz]

Does that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Does that resonate what I'm saying before.

[D]

I know that Trump is complicit in this shit, because I know he's a master at understanding. His fingers on the pulse, right?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[D]

He knows I've always said this. If Trump thought that suddenly supporting trans rights would be what would keep him in power and he would support it, everybody's cabinet would have purple hair and fake tits and, you know, undergone surgery. Like, he doesn't care. He knows that his base wants this thing right now, needs this.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So then what does he do if he knows they want it and he can't give it to him?

[Andrew Schulz]

He's telling y' all to move the fuck.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So what does he do if he.

[Andrew Schulz]

Said it all week? Move the fuck on.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But what if move on, fuck on doesn't work? What do you work.

[D]

And that's why it's great that people are keeping up pressure and you're keeping up pressure because it's going to force him. My issue is just I think he's capable of anything. And he'll. His next play will be the fake document or the fake leak or the misdirection. Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know that's going to happen because.

[D]

He knows right now he has to do it. He tried that. There's nothing to see here. He tried, Daddy. Trump said, go put. Put your toes away.

[Andrew Schulz]

He tried. It's the Democrats fault.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

He put out all the old tricks.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He's.

[D]

This is the first time we've seen him like, fuck. That didn't work. Yeah, that didn't work.

[Andrew Schulz]

And Democrats so stupid. But that's. No, no, I'm a call them fucking stupid because they need to hear this.

[D]

I don't mind you calling stupid, but it's like, it's the narrative of the.

[Andrew Schulz]

Story, but it is because they're stupid because they have the moment right now. You know what I'm doing right now?

[D]

What's the playbook?

[Andrew Schulz]

Piling on.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Pile on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, Pile on now. Yo. Okay. You told Andrew. I told you so. You told Rogan, I told you so. You told Candace on. You told everybody. I told you so now what? Pile on, pile on, pile on. Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. Because you know what else you can do while you're piling on, showing what else is going on. Oh, you want to know why inflation is up? You want to know why he told you the prices were going to come down, too? That hasn't happened. That's right. You know why? Because of these tariffs.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, these wars are still going on. They're still sending billions of Dollars ahead of ceasefire in.

[D]

He said 30 days. It hasn't been 30 days.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Chris, stop. So people are stupid. Chris, I don't know that you learned sarcasm last year.

[Andrew Schulz]

They do not know that you just learned sarcasm last.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So I think that what you're saying is. And this is what Jon Favreau said on the PODC America guy said is what. What is possible that comes from this is that his base learns that he lies about things. And the. The worst thing that can ever happen to him is that his base learns that he will lie and tell and tell people lies that they will believe. What's that?

[D]

What's that? And what else?

[Charlamagne tha God]

And then what else? So once they can be. Once the base is convinced that he's lying about something so that they will support it, what else could he potentially lie about? And that's how Democrats, if they're smart, would strategically chip away at the trust that he has within his base.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're the chink in the armor right now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Can't say that word.

[Andrew Schulz]

What armor? What you going to do now? What's today?

[D]

Thursday. RIP to my uncle, John Morrow passed away this weekend.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, man. Sorry to hear that.

[D]

Full fledged maga. Long time. And I'm.

[Andrew Schulz]

He said maga, y'.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know that's full fledged. Is in the MAGA after that kind of probably. But you said maga.

[D]

But I. I am going to his funeral. Of course. I have a lot of love for him, but everybody on that side of the family is very much maga. And I'm not gonna bring up politics, but politics tends to come up in our family. I'll be very curious what the.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because all it takes is one little piece of string to be hanging from a T shirt and you start pulling it and the whole shirt starts falling apart. Why are Democrats not using this more? I wouldn't be talking about anything except for Epstein right now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You brought up a great point.

[C]

Chris is going to go to the funeral with a shirt that says I told you so.

[D]

No, no, no, no. That's the shit they used to do to me. Everything at my house is showing up in NRA hats, MAGA hats. Come on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Remember when you used to ask us, you used to be like, why do people care about this transgender and sports issue? We would say, because it makes everything else they say sound like complete bullshit. Right? They, they, they, they, they, they. They sound like the party of. That lacks common sense.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly.

[Andrew Schulz]

That sound like the party that's insulting.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Our intelligence representative of all the other issues that people have with Democratic identity. Politics, ideology. Exactly.

[Andrew Schulz]

So the way Barbaro said is true.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly. That's the thing. You have to keep going.

[Andrew Schulz]

I just don't understand why people don't see this.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's. You have to. Like he said, if they make it like the trans issue, if they put him in a corner where they know he will not release it, he just refuses to release it. Even if the Democrats are also incriminated on it, the party in power is the one deciding not to release it. So they can keep going, yo, release that shit knowing that he won't and they could. It's no different than. How many times did Kamala actually say anything about trans? Almost none. It only took her saying one thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

About trans years ago that they put in a commercial. They ran it back.

[D]

I get it, I get it. But it's the Trump of it, which is like, if he had been in that situation, if he had said one thing about trans years ago and they asked him during the election, he'd be like, I fucking hate trans people. What the fuck are you talking about? Fuck that. He would.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, but he won't do that here because the base wants it. He tried to do that. You guys are still talking about that shit. And it didn't work. It backfired. It actually made it bigger. And now they're scrambling, right? There's a lot of scramble and they're trying to figure it out. The point is, I don't even care if Chuck Schumer is in the fucking file.

[Andrew Schulz]

He got the go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, regardless of go, he could be in the file with 40. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He could be in the file with 40 underage girls, right? He knows that Trump is not going to release the whole file. So knowing he's in it, he could still be like, this pussy won't release that shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

I would.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly.

[Andrew Schulz]

By the way. By the way, I don't want. I agree what you're saying, but I don't want to hear from Chuck Schum. I think I agree. I think it should be the younger Democrats who haven't been care lifer, elitist Democrats who are leading this charge.

[C]

I want to hear from all of them.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, because. Because. Because they're the hypocrites. They're the ones that are going to have to go. By the way, and I've already said this a million times, and I've said this on the podcast four or five times already. If you're running for the future of the Democratic Party, you have to throw the old regime under the bus. And let's forget the Epstein files for a second because they lied to us about Biden.

[C]

I get it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I read the original sin. All of y' all that were complicit in that cover up.

[C]

I get it. But if you say pile on, it's gonna be a lot louder if you're hearing from all the Democrats instead of the small ten that is the younger.

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, true. But honestly man, I think the biggest tidal wave that's coming to the most noise is being made by the people. Right? That's why Andrew went so viral last week. That's why the Rogan clips are going so viral. That's why Candace Owens is going so viral. Cuz these are the people that were championing Trump. So now when you hear the people that were champ, that's why I always say if you lie to people about Democrats, they won't believe you when you tell them the truth about Republicans. And the reverse of that is true. If you lie to people about Republicans, they won't believe you when you tell them about Democrats. Whether y' all realize it or not. Who's getting, who's getting. Who is every. Who's, who's everybody dick riding right now in media, Chris.

[D]

In media.

[Andrew Schulz]

In media, who? Tucker Fucker Carlson. Cuz Tucker has chosen to tell the truth about a couple of issues. And being that he was a person who used to ride so hard for a party, when you hear him actually challenge that party, you believe him more. It's gonna be the same thing with Andrew, at least from your people. It's gonna be the same thing with Rogan, at least from his audience. It's gonna be the same thing with you care about the truth.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And you're not just a cultist. And there are people. And the people in the cults will be angry. The people in the cults are always gonna be angry at the defectors. That happens throughout history. You leave the cult, they're pissed at you. Or if you're part of an opposing cult, they're pissed at you. But the people who are willing to tell the truth will ultimately be trusted. You have to hold people accountable.

[Andrew Schulz]

How many Democrat talking heads can you say that about? How many Democrat talking heads can you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Say damn, Bernie Sanders, Ro Khanna, Bernie's.

[Andrew Schulz]

Not even a talking head. He's an elected official. Oh, those are elected officials. I'm talking about the talking heads.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Adam Stewart, Jack Stewart. That's the only one I can think of. And I give Maher credit. Bill Maher. I give Bill Maher I give Bill Maher credit when I say they're so few and far between those that are willing to. To truly challenge both sides. Yo, shot me in the gut. I'm not a liberal, though. Don't nobody dick ride like a Democrat. It's the truth. It's the truth. Don't know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Somehow.

[D]

Somehow, maga's a Coat finally pops up, everybody opens their eyes, and now it's maga's a coat bashing Democrats.

[Andrew Schulz]

Maga's a cult. Democrats are dick riders. Same fucking thing.

[C]

Yeah, that's the same thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

And right now we got a Rocky Ford situation where this invincible Russian, probably a bad example, but this invincible Russian gets hit in the ring by Rocky and he bleeds. And everybody's like, oh, shit, he does have some weak spots.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And motherfuckers are saying, why do y' all care about him bleeding right there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

But by the way, I was thinking about this too, just to switch gears a little bit. How do you politically go for the kill when he's in power?

[D]

That's tough.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's really nothing you can do.

[C]

Terms are coming up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is what midterms moment.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The kill is.

[Andrew Schulz]

Y' all think midterms are going to be.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Watch, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch this. Watch this, watch this. Before the freedom for the. The kill is not harming Trump. The kill is fracturing the support and.

[D]

The base eroding debate.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly.

[D]

Bring. Bring them where we are.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly. The erosion. And that's why Democrats, the cultist Democrats, have handled this quite poorly. You're seeing his base for the first time in maybe the last decade be fractured on an issue. And instead of going, hey, guys, come over here. Because we're not. We actually want to give you that justice that you're talking about. We understand. Hey, he didn't lie about this. He'll lie about other things. Instead of trying to bring them in, build a coalition, they're going to. You fucking idiots.

[Andrew Schulz]

You dumb retards.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I told you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yo, you're not serious.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're not serious. That's all I'm trying. The people that are doing there are Democrats that are trying to bring people in. I don't want to just blanket statement this, but it seems like the talking heads, like Charlamagne was saying, the people on Instagram posting, it's. You're. You're no different than the Trump grifters. You're the anti Trump grifters and you're just using it as a moment to get clicks, views and attention.

[C]

I feel like, after January 6th, his base was a little bit fractured. Like, they were. No, they weren't initially going to support him again. Like, Republicans were trying to diso.

[Andrew Schulz]

He won reelection after an insurrection.

[C]

No, no, I know.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm saying, like, yo, this Epstein shit. I get what you're saying, but this Epstein shit has. Has caused a fracture. Like, I've never seen. It was in that part.

[D]

I told you before, the Epstein stuff. My father, who, lifelong Republican, 40 years, 50 years before the Epstein thing broke, went to a protest this year for my father to go out.

[Andrew Schulz]

What made him go out? What was it? What was the issue?

[D]

He's very concerned about the foreign wars. He's very concerned about the economy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm not gonna lie. The Iran shit. And continuing to fund whatever the fuck Bibi wants to do is fracturing the base. The base doesn't. I think a lot of times the base doesn't really even understand what's happening internationally, but they don't like this idea that, like, whatever Bibi says, Trump does.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So it's less about, like, what's happening in foreign policy. It's more about the idea of, like, do. Does. Does Trump have autonomy and can he make decisions or is somebody else forcing him to make decisions?

[D]

No, I mean, my father is, I would say, supportive of the immigration policies, largely. So, like, he's a Republican. Yeah, but now, look, he's 82. He's yesterday's news. He's not representative of much, but he would have punched me in the face if I had tried to get him to go to a Democrat rally in public in his neighborhood where people could see him.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what I'm trying to say.

[D]

He would have punched me in the fucking Democrats. You must be crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You have an opportunity right now. I've always called it like it is. It is up to you to decide what you do with it. You won't get many. You won't get many.

[Andrew Schulz]

Hold on. Let's take a step back. Salute to all the brilliant idiots, listeners. I ain't. I. I can. Shit. Now that I think about it, I ain't never heard Andrew say I was wrong. This might be the first time Andrew admits being wrong about something.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm not wrong yet.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no, you're wrong. You're wrong. You're completely honest.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm not wrong yet.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no. You're hoping he reverses course. Yes, but you're wrong in this moment.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay? In this moment, yes. He is not doing the things he said he would do. But there is ideally A chance with pressure that. That will.

[Andrew Schulz]

I guess people get mad, cuz to Chris's point, Donald Trump is a 50 year con man. So they're like, where the fuck were you in.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They're like, you were in New York. You're so stupid. You got cons. But it's like you also way overestimate my respect for the honesty of politicians. I assume they're all con men. Are they? I assume that they're all lying to me about what's going on and what's going to happen. So at this point, you have to just accept which lies seem better if their lie. If one side is just going, hey, we're going to keep doing the exact thing that you hate, and the other side is going, hey, we're going to do something different than that. That sounds better. That is enticing to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

And also, can we just admit one thing? Yeah, he's just a good con man. Why the fuck is that so hard to admit? If you've been getting people for this long, for this many years, and you won reelection twice, the highest seat in the land. Yeah, I get the land, the landlord shit, and all of that New York, all of that is one thing. I became president twice.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

I wish y' all would try to tell me I ain't the greatest.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yo, fucking. I'll be the first person to. He does none of the shit that he promised he was gonna do. I'll be the first person to admit that I was duped and I was conned. He does the stuff that he says he's gonna do. I'll be the first person to give him credit. How about that? And the second that I see that he's not doing it, I'm the first person calling it out, right? Like, I feel like I've been pretty consistent on this shit. I don't. I have. No, the person with like tons of ego and pride would be like, yo, he's really playing 4D chess, right? Yo, he's. It's all going to plan. Like, have I done that? Have I done any.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, I do want to ask you, because I haven't. I guess I haven't paid. No, I feel like I've been pretty fair. How has Trump supporters responded to you? The only thing I saw was the White House.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I think the Trump supporters that I've seen have all been like, yo, I do ride with Trump and Trump's still the man. I like what he's doing, but he is fucking up on this. Yeah, that's what I keep hearing. They're making. They're making a caveat. Or they'll balance out to be like, I like what he's doing with immigration. They'll say that kind of shit. I like what he's doing with this other stuff, but this is fucked up to me. That speaks volumes. Acknowledging at all that he's not doing something is the first time I've ever seen in the last decade. And you have an opportunity. Democrats, if you choose to seize it, and it's really on you. What do you want to do? Do you want to win or do you want to say, I told you so? That's really what it comes.

[Andrew Schulz]

And you can do both.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Just keep it brief, low key. Low key. You can.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. After you say, I told you so, you keep it. I told you so.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The problem is.

[Andrew Schulz]

And by the way, I told you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So doesn't get more votes. I told you so makes Republicans go, you know what? Fuck you guys. You guys lied about Biden being senile for four years. Don't you dare get on your high horse and act like you. You hold people accountable. You let that guy be dead for four years. That. Absolutely nothing.

[D]

I don't even like framing it as a Republican, Democrat thing. I vote Democratic. I don't give a fuck about Democrats. Like, who cares?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I agree with you.

[D]

It's gotta be like Americans understanding that the system that we had was imperfect.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[D]

And had a lot of flaws and we were getting frustrated with it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[D]

But this is a unique individual that really might smash it.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what? I hate when people repeat exactly what I said. Just more eloquent than me. I just fucking said that about 15 minutes. This is same exact thing. We have the opportunity right now, Chris, to move forward and build something that we all truly want.

[D]

I'm not even talking about moving forward. I'm, like, kind of desperate to maintain the status quo at this moment.

[Andrew Schulz]

Status quo is over.

[D]

It wasn't.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, it's over, Chris.

[D]

But what might be around the corner is so much worse than the status quo.

[Andrew Schulz]

We might. By the way, we might be too late.

[D]

Might be.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, we might be too late. You know, I watch a lot of moves that. Listen, I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know, and I keep saying this over and over. I don't even know why we even. Why people aren't raising hell about the Trump 2028 shit. Like, there's no reason for them to even be playing with that. There's no reason for Trump to be walking around with his guns.

[D]

I don't know where to start. Even the Rosie o'.

[Andrew Schulz]

Donnell.

[C]

I don't think he's playing.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't think. I know he's not playing. I know he's not. I know he's not.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That Rosie odonald shit's fire.

[D]

It's funny, but, like, the president should not be threatening to deport a US Citizen for criticism.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, revoke. Revoke their citizenship.

[D]

Whatever.

[Andrew Schulz]

Stay focused.

[D]

But it's. It's small, but it's also not insignificant.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, it's not. Listen, I told y'. All. Well, I said it on breakfast.

[D]

Not insignificant.

[Andrew Schulz]

What you're going to see over the next week or so is a lot of flooding the zone. Sure, that was part of flooding the zone. Let's get everybody. Let me see if I can get everybody talking about Rosie o' Donnell and taking her citizenship. See if this will get people off the Epstein shit. You're going to see a lot of silly shit like that. Stay focused.

[C]

You need some new moves. These moves ain't working no more.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that's the other thing.

[D]

And the Trump, as someone again, who studied him for a long time, the Trump move is make every move you can make until you have no moves left. You know what you do when you have no moves left?

[Andrew Schulz]

You blow the joint.

[D]

Burn it down. Burn it the fuck down. I don't want my shit getting burnt down. That's his move. He's playbook. I know the fucking playbook. Let me try this. Let me try that. All right, fuck it. Where's the gas? Just fucking blow this.

[Andrew Schulz]

Blow this shit. I don't know, man.

[D]

I'm on to the next thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

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[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

Life Life on Netflix. You can watch that right now. We got a few cool podcasts out Right now with flagrant. We had Ro Khanna on. We had the Pod Save America boys on. And yeah. So go check those out.

[Andrew Schulz]

I just want to tell everybody, man, I don't know when this episode. What's today? Today's Tuesday. Yeah, this episode might be out Wednesday or Thursday. I'll probably be gone by then. But I'll be in Walterboro, South Carolina, this Thursday. You know, me and my wife, we opened up six Crystals franchises in South Carolina. And this Thursday, we're opening up our second one in Walterboro. 1222 Bells Highway, Walterboro, South Carolina. We're having the ribbon cutting ceremony at 11am on Thursday. So we're gonna have food, we're gonna have music, we're gonna have giveaways. It's hosted by the Southeastern Chamber of Commerce. If you're hearing this Before Thursday at 11, we'll see you there. If you're hearing it afterwards. Thank you for coming, man. I appreciate y'. All. You know, that should bring about 40 more jobs to the community of Walterboro. We bought like 40 plus more jobs to the community of Orangeburg, so it should be like 40 more for the community of Walterboro.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Amazing, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thank y', all, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know, Crystal, so they're cooking there. They're doing well.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, Crystal is. I mean, Crystal was down south before, right? You know, it's like the down South. White Castle got it in a lot of ways. So, you know, it was down there before they left South Carolina for a while. And, you know, we've been bringing them back. So, you know, that's fire, dude. God is good. You know, every business you do is not gonna work, but this one seems to be doing okay. So let's keep it going.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's great.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know. Did you see Superman?

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, not yet. I saw Sinners, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

You finally saw Sinners?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Finally saw Sinners.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wow. What do you think?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I thought it was really good. I thought it was really good. Yeah, I thought that. Yeah, I thought it was like beautifully.

[Andrew Schulz]

Shot Ryan Coogler, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Like, beautifully shot Ryan Coogler. Yeah, I thought it was really good. I don't know. I thought it was really good.

[C]

About the scene, the party scene.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, the party scene.

[Andrew Schulz]

I loved it. That was amazing. You just can't dance. That's why you don't like dance.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Keep that same energy. I grew up in a dance. I grew up in a dance studio.

[Andrew Schulz]

They couldn't do that shit they was doing, though.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Of course they could. It's the exact stuff they were teaching. They were instrumental in prolonging that, but. But, yeah. I don't know. I just. The dance scene, I loved it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I loved that history lesson. It was so good. I would like to say, well, you know, Ryan Coogler, you know, James, what'd.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You think about it?

[C]

I thought it was nice.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Really.

[Andrew Schulz]

I thought it was one of the best scenes I ever seen in cinema. Just the way it was shot, and.

[C]

It was very experimental. That. That was a high risk, and it was executed.

[Andrew Schulz]

That shit worked, man. You know, listen, man, y', all, every Hollywood needs to understand one thing. Give creatives the money and let creatives create and get the fuck out.

[Charlamagne tha God]

When they're that talented.

[Andrew Schulz]

When they're that talented.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Not everybody's that talent. Like, yeah, Coogler is just like.

[Andrew Schulz]

But you have to be a certain level of talent to even. You know, he's a once.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He's like. He's a generational guy. Like, he's. He's. He's. He's really good.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's fantastic. Trying to get him for DC right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Now, and they should. He's smart. I mean, because Gunn is one of those guys who's. He's not playing around. I haven't seen Superman yet, but I want to. I want to ask you about that. But I will say with. With sinners. The.

[Andrew Schulz]

The kid in it, Miles, it's my guy. Met him in cans, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He's fantastic. He's.

[Andrew Schulz]

He was I with Miles. He got it. I mean, I met Miles.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Is he a musician by trade?

[Andrew Schulz]

I really don't know. My story. It's weird because it was one of those things where we were in Cannes. We were at D. Nice's party, and he came up to me and he was talking to me, and it's just. It's always interesting to me when guy's that young.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Is that his voice in real life, too?

[Andrew Schulz]

We were in the club. I don't know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I just.

[Andrew Schulz]

We talked, but you know what I'm saying, We didn't.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I thought he was so good.

[C]

He does sing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He can sing that song that he sings.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, you mean singing wise.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was unbelievable. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think. Yeah. I think he actually. No, he does sing. He does sing. He does.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I just think he's a good kid.

[Andrew Schulz]

He got a good spirit. I only met him that one time in cans. You know, he came up to me and we chopped it up and we talked. I'm sure you'll see him on Breakfast Club soon. But he's a good dude, man. Yeah, he got a good spirit and a good energy about Him. And yes, like you said, he pops on screen. Pops in real life.

[C]

Wait, but was that before or after you didn't let the gay guy drink from your bottle?

[Andrew Schulz]

It was the same time. It was all. It was all in front. It was all the same.

[C]

Did you hear that?

[Andrew Schulz]

Same thing.

[C]

She just wasn't here with.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, you didn't hear that. I don't even want to bring that back up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't want to talk about it.

[Andrew Schulz]

But I will say this. I realize it's about James Gunn. Watching Superman.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What'd you think of Superman?

[Andrew Schulz]

I thought it was. I thought it was really good, you know, it was really good because it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Was corny, but corny on purpose.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's Superman.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, like they lean into.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's who Superman always has been. Yeah, this corny, you know, campy, hopeful. Sometimes cringe like they got him saving a squirrel in the middle of the fucking. The city crumbling. It's like, what the fuck, yo? But that's Superman.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's the intention. They are leaning into the character.

[Andrew Schulz]

If you ever read the comics, Superman always put everybody before himself. He always wanted to protect everybody. I always use this analogy, like, when you're a giant, you gotta watch your step. If you're a giant that has empathy, a giant that has empathy has to watch their step because, you know, you can crush people. That's how Superman has always presented himself in the comic books. And that really came across in this film. I mean, he's getting his ass kicked 75, 80% of the fucking movie. But he's got that Hulk Hogan factor. It's like right when you think it's over, you know, he starts waving his finger and he comes back to life. But the thing I like about it the most, I don't think there's nobody who could write that better than James Gunn. I think James Gunn is, man. I want to see James Gunn do like a. A full fledged comedy. I haven't seen that yet. I'm not saying that he hasn't. I just haven't seen it yet. I want to see James Gunn do a full fledged dark comedy because he's that good of a comedy writer. When you think about the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, that's what I was.

[C]

Hoping Superman would be a little bit like. Like have that type of vibe where it does. Oh, it is. But it's not corny, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's pretty. Superman is corny. The guy's running around in fucking tights, bro, in red trunks, like a cape.

[C]

I was hoping he would bring that Guardians of the Galaxy vibe to Superman.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what I told him. It is. It is, it is. And then you know what? Superman made me go. I had already watched the Penguin. I told y' all about Blue Beetle. I really enjoy Blue Beetle. Superman made me watch Peacemaker.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh.

[Andrew Schulz]

Cause there's a But he made me go back and watch Peacemaker, which James Gunn did. Shit is fantastic. I'm gonna tell you something, man. Between the Harley Quinn character, between Blue Beetle, between the Penguin series, between this new Superman movie, between Peacemaker, DC got my attention. DC's DCEU got my attention.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They're way. I mean, I think they're way on top of Marvel right now.

[Andrew Schulz]

Way.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What's Marvel got right now?

[Andrew Schulz]

Marvel's still got a 10 year great run.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no, I'm saying currently. Currently. What has Marvel dropped in anybody's.

[Andrew Schulz]

Marvel's still so far ahead. Far ahead. It's going to take DC four or five years.

[Charlamagne tha God]

If Fantastic Four flops. They got Avengers.

[C]

I just did Deadpool was just two years ago and I did a billion.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I even watch it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I've enjoyed everything on TV for Marvel, more so than in the theaters. Oh, the Iron Ironheart was fantastic. And Devil was fantastic.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All right.

[Andrew Schulz]

I've enjoyed all the TV shit way more than the movie. I haven't. All the movies have been mid to me, except for Deadpool, Wolverine. But the way Superman. Cause Superman's the Iron man of this new universe. So he's setting off this new dceu. I mean, they even set up the next film in Superman, which is gonna be Supergirl, right? It's like they got some dope shit. And if they bring Ryan Coogler in and, you know, they was asking, what should Ryan Coogler do? I think he should be the person that establishes the Milestone comics in this universe.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What does that mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

Milestone is static shock. Milestone is hardware. Milestone is icon and rocket. Like, that is a really dope group of characters that DC did with My man.

[D]

I know who you're talking about.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why the fuck is Dennis Cohen. I was just with Dennis.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't know any of this with Dennis Cohen.

[Andrew Schulz]

But that's my point.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Don't, don't do that. I think.

[C]

Don't. Don't waste them on that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, give him.

[C]

Give him Batman.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Give him some heat.

[Andrew Schulz]

Give him Batman.

[C]

Yeah, imagine he does a Batman trilogy right now. That shit goes crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why do we love Marvel the first 10 years?

[C]

I mean, it was great story, great.

[Andrew Schulz]

Stories based off a bunch of characters we didn't really know. Okay. Ryan could do wonders with stats. First of all, people love static shock. Like, static shock is actually probably the most. He is the most popular character from Milestone. But these people have great stories. Now, what I'd like to see, Ryan could do some other stuff. They got Green Lantern coming out, though. They got Aaron Pierce playing Jon Stewart. Green Lantern's a Superman. Superman is good. I can't even front, y'.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All.

[Andrew Schulz]

I can't. It's, it's just a good fight.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was good, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

I like what James Gunn so far is doing with the DC universe. I'm, I'm, I'm intrigued.

[C]

What about there was some backlash saying that there's like Israel, Gaza, like, or esque thing that happens in Superman.

[Andrew Schulz]

I, I didn't see none of that.

[C]

Israel, Gaza, they're saying that protecting kids or some. It looks like Israel, Gaza.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what's so funny about that? So Israel's the first country that ever invaded another country and tried to seize it. Like, isn't Russia doing that to Ukraine right now? Doesn't China want to do that to Taiwan? Hasn't America done that?

[Charlamagne tha God]

People project cultural events.

[D]

Mike Francesca clip.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, what's the Mike Francesca clip going around today?

[D]

What is, what is it, eight minutes long?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. What is it? Oh, Jesus. Oh, Jesus.

[Andrew Schulz]

Stunk. As for someone who is a old time TV show Superman guy trying to get entertained for a couple hours and wants to see Superman. This movie was pure torture to sit through. Torture. I mean, I'll tell you this. My name was on the credits. I'd hide it. That's how bad it was. This was two hours of old school.

[Charlamagne tha God]

New York radio, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

He wasn't Christopher Reeves, but he was. Okay. Superman. Two hours of him getting the crap beat out of him. Superman get beat up for two. He's getting beat up by everybody. Plus you have other superheroes in the movie. I didn't go there to see some guy named Mr. Terrific. I didn't go there to see lick, you know, the Green Lantern or some lady named Hawk something or other. I don't even know who she was. Okay. These others.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, he's not.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's not a superhero. This is a Superman movie. Now, I will say this. He didn't say. Now, there's one thing. He didn't explain. He didn't want. He didn't say there's one thing. I love Mr. Terrific in the movie. I love Greenland. I love Hoggirl. That's not who was saving Superman ass throughout the whole movie. It was the goddamn dog. All right, Krypto is the star of this motherfucker.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, really?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes, man. Krypto was the star of this film. What did he hate about the movie so much?

[C]

He just didn't like that Superman was getting beat up so much.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's Superman. They didn't read the comics. That's Superman. Yeah, they didn't read the comics. Like, they just simply didn't read the comics.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Most people's idea of Superman is based on the movies or the TV show Superman. And it's just this invincible guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

He was never as dark as the Snyder Superman.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean? To me, this is more like the 70s movies, right? Like, to me, this is more like the Christopher Reeves. Everybody was saying it was woke. I didn't find it woke at all. Superman stopped the war. Yeah, that's woke. That's woke. Superman stopping a war. Yeah. That's what Superman would do. I don't know. I thought it was good. And, you know, I hate dc. You know what I'm saying? It was good, but it's corny. There's gonna be moments where you like, oh, that was so. It was so cringe. It's so corny. It's cringe. But that's Superman. That's why I've never liked dc.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean? But James Gunn made this shit work. He's got my. I'm interested. I'm interested, man. Let's pay some bills and do some African idiots. Chris. God damn it. Hey, Cash App, let me tell y' all something. I appreciate y'. All. I appreciate y', all, but, boy, y' all make life hard for people, okay? Cause people have no problem throwing their Cash App out there in order to get a little bit of change, okay? It is the easiest way to send money. But I'm gonna tell you something, man. Cash App can do way more than you think. It can do way more than just be an app for you to send money. It can be a way to make your money work for you, okay? If you direct deposit at least $300 in paychecks each month and use the Cash App card for purchases, you can earn up to 4% annual interest on your savings. No hidden fees, no minimum balance requirements. Also, you can hit your savings goals even faster by turning on the Round Ups feature on your Cash App card. With roundups, every purchase you make using the card is rounded up to the nearest dollar, and that spare change is automatically put into your savings. And don't let your money sit around and gather dust. Make it work for you. Take Advantage of high interest savings on Cash App Today for a limited time only new Cash App customers can use our exclusive code to earn some additional cash. Just download Cash App Use our exclusive referral code Idiots in your profile. Send $5 to a friend within 14 days and you'll get $10 dropped right into your account. Right into your account. Terms apply. That's Money. That's Cash App. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partners. Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton bank member FDIC direct deposit roundups, overdraft coverage and discounts provided by Cash App, a Block Inc. Brand. Visit Cash app LegalPodcast for full disclosures. This episode is brought to you by.

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[Charlamagne tha God]

Is a total game changer. Bannon just said that if Epstein. Sorry, if Trump doesn't release the Epstein.

[Andrew Schulz]

File, they're going to lose 40 seats.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They're gonna lose 40 seats in the midterms.

[C]

Told you the midterms.

[Andrew Schulz]

I gotta see it to believe it. Told you. You know, by the way, that's just my lack of faith in the Democrats. You know what I mean? I just don't see them having the team or the message to win in the midterms. I think we've seen and realized that Trump being bad is not good enough. Trump being a liar is not good enough.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You gotta offer something better.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Simply vilifying your opponent isn't going to do it. You have to offer a better option.

[Andrew Schulz]

Now, can we go back to how Trump won? Not only did he villainize his opponents.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He offered a better option.

[Andrew Schulz]

He Offered? I don't think he offered a better option. He said he would. What he said was better offer? Yes. I'm a decrease the budget. I'm going to put more money in your pocket.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm going to bring back end the wars.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm going to bring back factories. I'm going to stop illegal criminals from terrorizing your neighborhood to taking all your jobs. We can't sit here and act like we don't understand why this shit didn't work. Other than the fact, yes, we know he's a con man. We know he's a liar. You can't believe anybody would ever believe him, but they did.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, now what?

[D]

New New Deal.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Say again?

[D]

That's my plan. The new New Deal.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The new New Deal.

[Andrew Schulz]

What is the new New Deal, Chris?

[D]

I haven't fully worked it out yet.

[Andrew Schulz]

Typical Democrat. All right, let's do some asking. Idiots, man. Austin J. Hughes wants to know, what podcast do you listen to in your spare time, as limited as that might be? Fantastic question, Austin. I listen to Flagrant. I listen to the weekly show with Jon Stewart. I listen to the Native Land podcast with Angela Rye, Andrew Gillum and Tiffany Cross. I mean, I listen to. I listen to a lot of podcasts. I own a podcast network, so I mean, I listen to damn near everything on Black Effect for the most part. But yeah, if you're asking me, who do I listen to just for pure entertainment, like, who do I turn on when I'm riding? It's probably those Emel Robbins, Debbie Brown, deeply well drink champs, depending on who the guest is. Who else? Damn, it's a lot. Theo Vaughan. I do. I listen to a lot of podcasts. I mean, podcasting books is really. That's my source of consumption. That's what I like to entertain, consume. What do you listen to? I believe that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, I listen to. Honestly, I listen to everything through clips. And either like, not in Instagram clips, but also like YouTube video. So maybe like a 10, 12, 18 minute YouTube video. So obviously, Breakfast Club. I'll listen to some pod. Save America.

[Andrew Schulz]

I listen to pod sometimes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, I'll listen to Theo.

[Andrew Schulz]

I listen to Rogan.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, I listen to Rogan, of course. And then I'll listen to like, some random, like, history dudes. I listen to Breaking Points, that's Saga and Crystal. I'll watch, trying to think of others that I listen to. But yeah, I'll just watch a bunch of clips.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know who I like listening to? I like listening to the. The Grits and Eggs podcast hosted by Deontay Kyle.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

Grits and eggs podcast is funny because Deontay is a. He's just a super sharp dude, man. You know what I'm saying? And he's funny, but he be having some really good. Some really good. Just insights on things like, you know, like he's one of those people that he goes one on one to the camera, like how loon does. You know what I'm saying? Salute to loon with the stuff that podcast. So it's just him talking to the camera, like giving these monologues. And he's really good. I like listening to him. He's somebody I've been listening to lately. So. Yeah, I listen to a lot of podcasts, man. A lot of podcasts. Put me on to something new if you got it. Hold on. Go back to number two. Cause that was fantastic. Chris, come on.

[D]

There's a better one down here. It is number nine. If you're gonna talk about Epstein. There you go.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, let's go back to nine. Let's go to two. We can come back to nine. I like nine, but two. Two is good. This is from. Just give me your number. Would you rather be named in the Epstein files or be listed as a participant in the diddy party?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Diddy party? Yes, Diddy party. Consensual sex.

[D]

Also, he just had parties that weren't.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. When you say participant in the diddy parties. I could have been to a diddy party. That don't mean I was. You didn't say participant in the freak off.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I thought you meant in the freak off. But even though the freak off, it was consensual.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but even I just. I don't know. I'm just looking at it from participant in the diddy party. Yes. I'll go to the diddy party, have a drink dance. You didn't say participant in the freak offs with Diddy.

[C]

But I mean, the Epstein. You could have just gone to the island.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, there's no reason. No, there was absolutely no reason to just be on Epstein island. There was no reason to just be on Epstein's plane.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But we know your answer, Alex. That's good, though. You.

[C]

I was just saying. I was giving you guys.

[Andrew Schulz]

Andrew brought up a great point earlier. Man. This man got. He was a convicted pedophile since 06. Or convicted sex offender.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, it was 2005, and I think in 2008, it was convicted like 08.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know it was. Oh, something 2000.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Something 2008. I think by 2008, he's on the. He's registered sex offender.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why are you kicking it with him for any reason?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yo, come on, say less.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why you on his plane? Why you have violence? For what reason?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Say less.

[C]

Ask Trump.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, I don't know. I don't think we have Trump with him after that.

[C]

I mean, he knew he liked them young.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He knew he liked him young, Early. Yeah. That is facts. He did say he likes him young.

[Andrew Schulz]

The Rico Graham says, would Guy Cold be controversial today? I don't know if it'd be. Yes, it would be. Only because it would be misogynistic. But the show is called Guy Cold.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. We could get away with it this year. We couldn't get away with it two years ago. We couldn't get away with it four years ago.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I mean, listen, I haven't watched the episode in a while to see how it has aged, but I just know it would be misogynistic. It was about Guy Code.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hell, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

We literally did a parody song about fucking our balls, yo. Like, yeah, it was fire. How to make our balls not stick to our legs Light.

[C]

Because now if you look at the Red Pill Manosphere, all that stuff, that's way worse than the stuff y' all was in.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, but they're not on, like, Comedy Central or mtv. I mean, it was just on network tv. Like, the Red Pill shit is on the fringes of the Internet.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. And you know what's so wild about the Red Pill stuff? It's like a lot of them come off as angry. It's wild when you, like, on tv, to Andrew's point. And it's misogynistic and it's funny. Y' all happier. We're happy about this.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yo. It was. That's why we could get away with it. We weren't some angry dudes. We just having fun out here, man, talking shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

And you know what was so ill about Guy Code? You know what MTV2 did, or really MTV, they was just like, make Girl Code and let the girls be just as outraged.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that's exactly what the fuck happened.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And those girls were stars, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nicole Byer, stars. Awkwafina stars. Carly Aquilino, stars. What? What are we talking about? Nessa? What are we talking about? What are we talking about?

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's a great time, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Come on. Jessie Mae Peluso.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was a great time. What a time. Can you believe got paid for that?

[Andrew Schulz]

What? $500 an episode.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sure, I can. Yeah, sure. Yeah, we got paid for that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Nah, that was. That was, I think, the richest. That was I think that was the richest that will ever. I can't speak for you, but, like, it will ever feel. Because it was the biggest jump from, like, having no money to having, like, some money. You're like, what, man?

[Andrew Schulz]

I had just. I was coming off being fired. I think I'd been doing Breakfast Club two, three years. MTV came with an overall deal. It was $55,000 a year. And I just thought it was dope. I'm like, oh, shit. I got two salaries in there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's free money.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I'm saying? I got preference club, and I got the overall deal in mtv. I was like, okay, cool. So, yes, I understand exactly what you mean.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I got an overall deal from mtv. This is after you probably got overall before Guy code. They locked you up for everything. So this is after the success of guy code. Like, I think I was on some shit. And then they offered an overall deal. And I was the first.

[Andrew Schulz]

I was the first talent.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I think you were the. Yeah, because you also had the hip hop show. There's a few things.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And I remember I got this overall deal, and I remember thinking, there's nothing on this planet I can't buy. I remember thinking that I was like, there's nothing I can't buy. It was. I think it was for $125,000 or something like that. My agent takes 10. My. My manager takes 10. The lawyer probably took five. The business manager took five. So you looking right off the top. 30% is gone, but in your head, it's not gone.

[Andrew Schulz]

In your head, you got a hundred.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And twenty five thousand dollars. Thirty percent of that is gone, plus the government takes 50. So I really got, like, $10. But, like, in my head, I was like, I can order anything on any menu on the planet.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's why I don't understand this new generation. I hate to sound like the old uncle, but I really don't understand this new generation of people. I lived in New York in 2006, from 2006 to 2007, not making a goddamn dime. Wendy just gave me a place to stay. And then when I started Breakfast Club and was doing mtv, we weren't making crazy, crazy amounts of money, like, but we still were having fun and somehow figuring a way. Figuring out a way to make things work.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yup.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, I don't get it. Like, I don't get it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We have more hope. I think what's happened with this generation is, like, the illusion of hope is valuable. I didn't realize this, but, like, the illusion of hope is valuable. For example, like, having all these different networks that had shows that you could to be on one day was very valuable. Now the only way people think they'll make it is if they go viral on TikTok. And that just feels so uncontrollable, right? They're like, well, what does go viral on TikTok? Do I have to interview someone on the street? Do I have to fall out of a building?

[D]

Maybe gatekeepers weren't so bad after all.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, I think for guys like me and Charlemagne, they were bad because it's like, we'll build some shit, we'll actually do it. Not everybody's willing to do that. Some people like the structure. They like a system. Like, like, I just learned how to edit because I'm like, I guess I need to edit my own shit. I learned all the things to put myself on, but not everybody's gonna go do that. And those people often won't make it within structure, but they have the illusion that they can. And right now they don't have that illusion because it doesn't seem like there's any networks putting people on. It doesn't seem like there's any record labels that are putting people on. So I think that they're dealing with this. Like, how do you make.

[Andrew Schulz]

How do you benefit from structure? The reason I say we benefited from structure is because when you're in these systems and you get to see how these systems work, you know how to apply them to what it is you want to do. Independently, of course.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, so you. So you can't build something you've never seen.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne tha God]

And not everybody's a builder. There's a lot of people that are just pure, raw talent. Like, we see this with musicians all the time. Like, they're pure, raw talent, but they're not going to go out there and like, really, truly manage and understand the PR of their career. They're just the most pure, raw talent, and they benefit from structure around them. So those people, if they're not caught up by a good manager or whatever, I guess could fall by the wayside now. So I understand the. What is it? The despair, I guess I would say that, like, Gen Z is kind of going through a little bit right now where they're like, how the fuck do I make it? Like, what do I do? How do I build? And what I would implore them to do is go, it's not luck with going viral. Like, you can figure out how to make great shit, and great shit goes Viral shit goes viral too, but great shit gets attention every time. It might not get as attention as somebody falling out of a building, but it will get attention if you consistently make great shit. So I. I would hope that they get excited about the opportunity they have, but I understand a little bit of the disillusion.

[Andrew Schulz]

I agree. Komoda13 said, Would you suck a if it meant all the Epstein files would get released saving hundreds of kids, or would you have sucked a cock to stop Epstein?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen, I commend you for doing that, man. I honestly, I genuinely think that that's one of the coolest things you've ever said on the podcast.

[Andrew Schulz]

I would grab a male rooster and suck that male rooster. I would just take that rooster. Suck the feathers. Suck it right off hundreds of kids. Actually, I would do it to stop Epstein, period. Not even save the kids. Suck the. Suck the rooster.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Suck the toes. Suck the claws.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I probably wouldn't suck the. I don't have to suck the claws. I suck the body of the rooster.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You gotta suck it all.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. So, yes, I would suck it up. I would suck a. To make sure Epstein never exists.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're a brave man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I appreciate you for that, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. Oh, this is a good one. Charlotte, you like screamers? If your daughter wanted to scream, what would you say? That's coming from Dog 50? I don't know. That's a good question. I mean, I would have to see what the intention is to screaming, you know what I mean? Like, what is her intention? You know what I mean? What is she trying to put out to the world? Because broadcasting might be in her blood. Cause of who her daddy is, you know? So. So, yeah, I would want to see what her intention is. And if she came to me and said she wanted to scream, I would tell her to have an intention, have a purpose, and, like, actually produce something. You know what I mean? That's why I always. I give Kai the most props. Cause he actually does things. Even if it's even like, I saw him and I show speed the other day. They were dressed like Mario and Luigi, and they was like, we gonna play Mario and Luigi in real life until we beat the game. And they're dressed like Mario and Luigi. That's production value. You know what I mean? That's giving the people.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's more than just turning the camera on and causing chaos.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, like, so it just depends on what it is that she would be doing. We had. We had Neon on the show.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Yeah. I Was.

[Andrew Schulz]

That'S cool. I always feel, I feel like the old uncle talking to them little 20 year old kids. I've been sitting there, I'm like, yo, 10 years ago you was 10, bro.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

I've been doing radio for. I've been doing radio longer than somebody like Neon's been alive. Yeah. Now the one thing I will say about all of those screamers, I ain't gonna say all of them, but the people like a Neon or even when I did my Ton show, I don't know, not Maton so much. I don't think they expect to receive what it is they put out. So they might be the type that trolls all of the time and tries to get the joke off on people, but you dealing with veterans, it ain't.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Gonna work the same.

[Andrew Schulz]

Been doing this, done got punched in the face. You know what I mean? People have tried to kill you. Like that stuff y' all doing is cute, it's cool. But we really do that over here. So I noticed that when they're with you on your platform or you're with them and you fucking with them, their audience gets upset.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, wow, that's hilarious.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne tha God]

They want to see them fuck with somebody, not them get fucked with.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. I think you've learned a valuable lesson that a lot of the other screamers haven't learned yet and that there's consequences to your actions and there's consequences to your words. So when you out in the street, people gonna try you. Like you saw when AB got into it. Well, that was the Aiden Ross event, right? Yeah, yeah. Like those guys that jumped your manager, like, shit is real. So it's like you guys that be talking slick online, you know, people gonna, people gonna see. Oh yeah, no, there's definitely consequences. And I've dealt. Yeah, I've dealt. I've just been very lucky because like with the shit I've done in the past, like I should be like, like someone could have done something to me, like absolutely bad for sure.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And I, and, and, and you know.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thank God nothing happened, but it's just like I'm blessed. So that's always interesting to me to watch. But I mean, Neon seemed like a good kid. Like, you know, he, he said that he used to do a lot of wild shit and he's evolved. Who am I? Who am I?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I let people go tell him he's full of shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

People was, it was hitting me up saying, ah, he's full of shit. He's a liar. I'm like, bro, you gotta let people grow. He's 20 years old now. I don't like that shit he said about, you know, Kai and Kai's mother.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh my God. What'd he say?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't even want to repeat it. But it was some. Some wild shit. It was some shit that. Yeah, you should get points. Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying? And by the way, it's okay to get punched in the face for some shit that you said, right? I've had it happen to me a couple of times.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, I mean, no, it's not okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, it is okay, because you can't control how somebody reacts to the words that come out of your mouth.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

So the thing. And I told him this in the interview. I told him, I said, you learned something that a lot of your peers haven't learned yet and that there is consequences for your words and your actions. He was telling us about how his manager got jumped and some people saw where he lived at and pulled up in mask and all types of shit like that. So it's just like. Yeah, I'm glad you learned that early. Cause in this day and age, that shit could end bad. You can end up bleeding out on screen. That's just the reality to the situation. Let's do a couple more. The kid, Coley says, would you rather be pro by aliens or party with. Did. Party with Diddy. I've already been probed by aliens. I've never party with Diddy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You gotta see a Diddy party, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, I've been probably aliens. This is not. You don't even remember.

[Charlamagne tha God]

This guy's just.

[Andrew Schulz]

God damn. This is. I'm gonna end with this question even though it makes no fucking sense. Rom VT says dick talk. If you could trade dicks with anyone else dead or alive, who'd it be?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Wow. All right, all right, all right, all right. This is a good one right here.

[Andrew Schulz]

The guy who died. Why you open your fucking mouth, bro, when you start thinking about the dicks.

[C]

I was yawning.

[Andrew Schulz]

God damn. Come on.

[Charlamagne tha God]

There's. Okay, so the two ways. Look at this. You could look at who's the girl you want to. And then you trade dicks with them. But that just cause you trade. Just because you trade dicks doesn't mean you still get to them. Yeah, so you just get.

[Andrew Schulz]

What if they got a little dick when they fucking. Just cause they the girl you want to fuck them and they got the kind of dick you want.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're not trading bodies. Bodies with them. You're trading dicks.

[D]

But do you inherit the memory?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, like. Like the dicks are locked into your foreskin. I mean, the memories are locked in. Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what's so gay about this? You really got to go on a dick hunt.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You do.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, you gotta peep the dicks. Like, it's like being in the store. And, like, you gotta look at it and say, oh, that's a good one. Oh, I want that one.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You gotta see it hard, because some. They might be big, soft.

[Andrew Schulz]

So.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So then not that hard. Somebody gotta make it hard.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why you gotta make it hard? But, hey, if you gotta test, you gotta test drive the car. Like, if you wanna buy a car, you gotta drive it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's it.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Simple as that.

[Andrew Schulz]

If you want the wine, you gotta taste it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Exactly. You want a side of mine or not?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. If it's a bunch of flaccid dicks and you look and you're like, damn, that looks cool. But how would you look? Hard. But that's what's gonna get it hard. That butt. That butt. I don't know, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit. You're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots Podcast.