Tuck It Or Not?

Summary

The Brilliant Idiots – "Tuck It Or Not?" (April 25, 2026)

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode of The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne tha God and Andrew Schulz—joined by regulars Taylor, Alex, Chris, and occasional drop-ins from DJ Envy—dive deep into a wide range of topics. From the state of movie blockbusters and nostalgia-driven media, to sneaker culture, music industry rollouts, and reflections on parenting, the crew mixes sharp observations with their trademark humor and irreverence. The episode is peppered with notable one-liners, heated debates, cultural hot takes, and moments of surprising vulnerability, making it a quintessential "Brilliant Idiots" experience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Blockbuster Films and the State of Hollywood

• Cinemacon Experiences: Andrew shares his experience at Cinemacon, mingling with celebrities while promoting the new "Street Fighter" trailer.
  • Andrew: "Cinemacon was interesting. It’s basically like, you go and pitch your movie to all the people who own movie theaters around the world." [01:16]
• Marvel's Missteps: The crew laments Marvel's franchise fatigue, noting the lack of stakes and emotional connection as the MCU drifts into the multiverse.
  • Charlamagne: "Marvel fucked up a simple concept. ... All they had to do after Endgame was move on to a whole other universe." [03:01]
  • Andrew: "My issue with the multiverse thing is that, like, nobody really dies. There’s no stakes.” [04:26]
• Importance of Character Attachment: They stress that franchises should focus on beloved characters to maintain buzz.

2. Nostalgia and Escapism in Media

• Super Mario Movie & Nostalgia: The hosts praise the new "Super Mario" movies, especially for their pure fun, nostalgic callbacks, and even (as Taylor suggests) psychedelic experiences.
  • Taylor: “On shrooms…you see all the Reptilians in the theater…that movie is literally about a guy being on shroom and seeing the world the real way.” [07:57]
  • Charlamagne: “If you grew up in a certain era, it's so nostalgic.” [10:22]
• Cultural Craving for Escapism: They argue nostalgia is big because society is hungry for authenticity and comfort in an AI-dominated, uncertain era.
  • Charlamagne: "Nothing is real, nothing feels authentic. ... I think there's going to be a great disconnect real soon.” [11:12]
  • Andrew: "Kids’ lives are all existential crisis now. You give them a little escape, a break from that—you’re gonna run it up.” [10:56]

3. Tech Innovations from Japan & Conspiracies

• Bizarre & Innovative Gadgets: A rapid-fire review of Japanese inventions, from nano-bubble showers to bone-conduction lollipops and underground bike silos.
  • Taylor: “Automated underground bike slots…Japan uses eco-cycle silos that store your bike in a high-speed robotic vault 12 meters beneath the sidewalk.” [14:48]
  • Charlamagne: “They need to make that a dick…like a lollipop you can suck on that plays music at the same time.” [15:39]
• Teleportation and Surveillance Paranoia: Charlamagne launches into theories about hidden teleportation technology and government control, sparked by talk of devices disabling phones at movie premieres.
  • Charlamagne: “There’s beings from other dimensions coming through portals…they got that shit now, man.” [17:07]
  • Andrew: “That would be nuclear war if they gave it to us.” [17:30]
• Skepticism about Everyday Tech: Pondering Wi-Fi origins, wireless charging, and vinyl record science, they question the uncritical adoption of tech and fads.
  • Charlamagne: “WiFi, gluten, Dubai chocolate—where did this shit come from?” [18:15]

4. Music Industry: Rollouts, Chart Metrics & Drake Discourse

• Drake’s Album Rollout: Discussion on Drake’s Iceman rollout using ice blocks, and broader commentary on the lost art of promoting music.
  • Charlamagne: “Nobody does rollouts anymore. Act like your music is valuable.” [22:20–24:36]
• Beef Culture Fatigue: The group is over endless rap "circle the block" beefs; they advocate for fun, club-ready tracks instead of diss tracks.
  • Charlamagne: “Nobody want to see you reheat Cole French fries…just go ahead and make your records for the club.” [23:09]
• Changing Chart Rules & Hip-Hop’s Streaming Dominance: They break down why hip-hop isn't always charting—but is still America’s #1 streamed genre.
  • Charlamagne: “People aren’t making the type of records that chart. The number one streamed genre in America is still hip-hop and R&B.” [27:10]
  • Andrew: “White boy indie rock bands are popping…Maybe the pendulum’s swung.” [26:42]

5. Sneaker & Cultural Influence

• Sneaker Evolution & Lost NBA Influence: Long segment on sneaker culture, mourning the lack of current NBA stars with Jordan-level sneaker impact.
  • Charlamagne: “Allen Iverson was so cool…all of those sneakers” [40:26]
  • Andrew: “What NBA player that has a transformative game…wears a Nike right now? None.” [37:01]
• Kanye’s Chokehold: Kanye West’s Yeezys are hailed as the last sneakers with true cultural crossover, even into the NBA; reflect on how Kanye eclipsed athletes.
  • Charlamagne: “You could go on any campus and see kids in the slides…Kanye had culture in a chokehold.” [48:09]
• Marketing Matters: They reminisce on iconic campaigns (Lil Penny, Spike Lee-Jordan) and lament LeBron’s lack of classic marketing.
  • Andrew: “LeBron has never had an all-time great marketing campaign.” [45:19]
• Nostalgia vs. Design: They debate whether sneaker legacy comes down to nostalgia or true aesthetic appeal.
  • Andrew: “The most popular Jordans are the most simple ones.” [46:15]

6. Parenthood, Growing Up, and Vulnerability

• Sending Kids to College: Charlamagne opens up about his eldest daughter leaving for college, experiencing pride and sadness.
  • Charlamagne: “On one hand, I am happy…I’m extremely, extremely sad because I’m like, did I get to spend enough time? …This is adulthood.” [102:46]
• Philosophizing on Pressure & Success: They muse on hustle culture, American expectations, and the fantasy of a slower-paced island life.
  • Charlamagne: “It’s pressure to be something in America, it’s not pressure to be something in other places. Sometimes just living is enough.” [104:28]
• Dog vs. Kids: A recurring gag about Taylor’s relationship with her dog changes after real motherhood, with the group poking fun at how priorities shift.

7. Tucker Carlson, Political Influence, and Media Fracture

• Tucker Carlson's Trump Regrets: They debate the sincerity and implications of Tucker’s apology for championing Trump, noting the potential uses for Democrats.
  • Charlamagne:"If I say, 'I don't fuck with you, I hate you,' but then I purposely drive people towards you and stand by you, it's intentional. That's an intentional choice." [78:23]
• Conservative Voices & Media Algorithms: Examining how right-wing media influencers maintain power by adjusting to audience sentiment and embracing contrarian stances.
  • Andrew: “Their suggestion is that the base—or that the algorithm, or what is trending—is pushing his ideals.” [93:00]
  • Charlamagne: "The worst thing that he did was try to attack all of them in one tweet. Alex Jones, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson. No, my boy, that's Iran. You ain't just getting rid of them like that." [93:35]
• Nuance Lost in the Internet Age: The group riffs on how simplified, polarized narratives obscure social and political complexity.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Marvel Movie Fatigue:
  Andrew: “My issue with the multiverse thing is that, like, nobody really dies. There’s no stakes.” [04:26]

• On Super Mario as a Drug Metaphor:
  Taylor: “That movie is literally about a guy being on shroom and seeing the world the real way.” [07:57]

• On the Resurgence of Old Media:
  Charlamagne: “Nothing feels authentic. ... There’s going to be a great disconnect real soon." [11:12]

• On Rollouts in the Music Industry:
  Charlamagne: “Act like your music is valuable…don’t spend all this time in the studio and then just go out and just drop.” [24:36]
  Andrew: “If you believe in your shit and you think it’s great, why not promote it?” [24:39]

• On Sneaker Culture:
  Charlamagne: “The fact that it's 50/50...I'm like, I don't know if he's right. I don't know if he's wrong either.” [41:44]
  Charlamagne: “Kanye had culture, especially in the sneaker game, and you don’t even got a wicked jump shot.” [51:09]

• On Jordan’s Untouchable Legacy:
  Charlamagne: “I can’t think of too many people, any race, gender, size, color…that Michael Jordan couldn’t do that to, and ain't nobody gonna say.” [56:37]

• On Nostalgia vs. Innovation in Sneakers:
  Andrew: “It takes a genius to design something simple and make it look incredible. Less is more.” [46:27]

• On Parenting and Letting Go:
  Charlamagne: “Did I get to spend enough time with my baby?.. I know this is it. This is adulthood.” [102:46]
  Andrew: “Once you have kids, you can’t imagine life without them. Other people’s kids aren’t your kids.” [97:31]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Opening & Cinemacon/Movies: [00:57–05:57]
• Marvel & Superhero Discussion: [01:59–04:45]
• Nostalgia in the Media/Super Mario: [07:47–10:45]
• Societal Disconnection & Escapism: [10:45–12:12]
• Japanese Tech Innovations: [14:06–18:01]
• Sneaker Culture/Rise & Fall of Iconic Shoes & Kanye: [36:03–51:09]
• Music Industry Rollouts & Drake: [21:46–27:17]
• Streaming & Charting Woes in Hip Hop: [25:52–32:47]
• Live Events & Cultural Influence: [32:51–37:01]
• Michael Jordan, Nascar & Bragging Rights: [56:07–59:12]
• Tucker Carlson/"Grifter" Politics: [69:04–93:18]
• Parenting, Letting Go, and Reflecting on Success: [102:46–105:40]
• Relationship with Pets & Kids: [97:03–99:43]
• Sexuality and Parenting Jokes: [108:17–113:13]

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Tone & Atmosphere

True to form, the episode seesaw’s between idiotic riffs (“Would you let Pinocchio put his nose in your butt?” [09:18, 112:47]), incisive social commentary, and heartfelt reflection. The banter is fast, interruptive, and affectionate—with plenty of inside jokes about each other and pop culture. Political segments are spirited, nuanced, and sometimes conspiratorial, but balanced with levity.

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Conclusion

"Tuck It Or Not?" showcases The Brilliant Idiots at their wide-ranging best: incisive when discussing culture, hilarious in the details, unfiltered about hip-hop and sneakers, and unexpectedly real on personal growth and parenting. Whether debating the decline of NBA sneaker icons or poking fun at generational anxieties, Charlamagne and Schulz (with friends) deliver an episode full of wit, nostalgia, and insight—anchored by both idiocy and occasional, genuine brilliance.

Transcript

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

So what's the problem?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is the problem. Nothing in my life goes as smoothly. I'm waiting for the catch.

[DJ Envy]

Maybe there's no catch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's exactly what a catch would want me to think.

[Taylor]

Wow.

[DJ Envy]

You need to relax.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I need to knock on wood. Do we have wood? Is this table wood?

[DJ Envy]

I think it's laminate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Yeah, that's good. That's close enough.

[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yup. Charlamagne Tha God.

[Andrew Schultz]

Andrew Schultz.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hezekiah Walker. Hello, sir. How are you, mate?

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm good, my brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you? How was your week?

[Andrew Schultz]

It was very nice, man. We dropped the new Street Fighter trailer.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I saw that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Cinemacon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw that. How was that?

[Andrew Schultz]

It was cool, man. I mean, trailer's fire, trailer's heat. Yeah, trailer. But Cinemacon was interesting. It's basically like, you go and, like, pitch your movie to all the people who own movie theaters around the world.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you're like, in a green room, and it's just like, Johnny Depp is waiting to showcase his movie. Johnny Knoxville is there. They were doing scary movies, so Marlon was there. And I'm with 50, and I'm like, guys, we're gonna be peaceful today. You know, let's keep the peace, guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought it was cool, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, they dapped it up. Everything was fine, man. So it was a vibe. It was cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you anticipating the film? The trailer dropping, like?

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm very excited, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, shit, it's not too many blockbusters that come out. It's a lot this year, though. I think Street Fighters is in that conversation, right? I think you got like, the Avengers, Doomsday and the Spider Man. And the Doom. Yeah, but Street Fighters up there, the budget's what? The budget's well over a hundred.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I think the budget's probably like 100. Like, I think those movies are definitely like a different. You know, those are like hundreds of millions.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I don't even how the fuck Avengers plans to make any money, bro. I think like, what the fuck? Like the break even. They got to do two plus billion.

[Andrew Schultz]

Not only they go three, maybe they go make money and then what they're going to do is like reset the world and then they can make. Because they tried.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They put that with the second movie. Well, Secret wars because it's a two parter.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right. But they like, they tried to do. They tried to do like the other new characters and it didn't stick. So they basically got to reset the whole brand and be like, all right, you guys like these characters? We'll make movies with these characters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because they fucked it up. All they had to do was holler at your boy.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know, but they don't do it. They don't listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Holl at your boy.

[Andrew Schultz]

They don't listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Marvel fucked up a simple concept. We've had that conversation a million times on the podcast. All they had to do after Endgame was move on to a whole other universe.

[Andrew Schultz]

But keep the same character.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, just move on. The franchises they have are big enough that they could cast other people. You could, if you move on to the same.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't mean same actors. I mean same characters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. Go to the X Men world.

[Andrew Schultz]

But we love those characters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey. I thought you meant the Avengers. Still no. Like Thor and Captain America.

[Andrew Schultz]

To me, it's like you just got to make movies based on the characters that we have emotional connections to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Don't go to Moon Knight. Don't go to she. Hulk.

[Andrew Schultz]

We don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I'm with you 100%.

[Andrew Schultz]

Or if you're going to do that, do it the way they did in Marvel, where they introduced the characters, got us to fuck with them, fall in love with them, and then you give them a movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it don't make. I'm with you. But it don't make no sense to do that. Once you get all. Once you get the rights to all your big name characters back. Yeah, just motherfucking go with the big name characters. They should have went to a whole other universe, which was the X Men universe. Gave us that for the last five, six, seven years. In the midst of that, you're introducing the multiverse because you're clearly showing us there's a multiverse going on. But it could have been so simple even. Even if you gave us Stuff like spider man, Dr. Strange, just to connect, all the multiverse stuff. By the time you introduce incursions and all of that shit like that, now we know why these worlds are merging.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but, like, my whole. My issue with the multiverse thing is that, like, nobody really dies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No stakes.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's no stakes. So you. You remove the most important thing in any movie, especially an action movie, which is stakes. If I know none of the characters that I love could potentially die, and anything that happens here doesn't really matter because there's another world just like it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Then, like, why the fuck do I care?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I will say this, though. In movies, when do ever really die? Like, it's actually a shock when you're watching a movie and somebody really dies. When Ricky dies in Boyz n the Hood? When Thomas J. Dies in Minecraft. Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

But in superhero movies, you know, when he got stopped, J.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's Thomas J.

[Andrew Schultz]

How'd that make you feel as a child?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To this day, if I want to cry, if I want to cry, if I'm trying to guilt my kids in anything, I think about that scene that automatically makes my eyes walk.

[Andrew Schultz]

That tears you up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schultz]

When you're trying to tell your wife how much you love her, you think about Thomas J. Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, that's real love. That's real tears right there. But when Veda. When Vita Veda. When Veda says, his glasses. His glasses. He can't see without his glasses.

[Taylor]

And where is his glasses?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He can't see without his glasses. Put his glasses on.

[Taylor]

You don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Put on his glasses. Oh, my God. And even as an adult when you know better, you'd be like, put his fucking glasses on. See it in the casket. You know what I'm saying? You never seen my girl? Oh, you uncultured piece of swine. You gotta watch my girl, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

What's the football movie? The Denzel football movie where he's the coach.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Radio.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, this guy's crazy. Remember the Titans?

[Taylor]

Remember the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yes. Tearjerker.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think I ever seen it. I just said yes to people.

[Andrew Schultz]

You haven't seen Remember the Titans?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't remember. I know the movie, but I don't think I watched it. If I did watch it, it was so long ago, I don't even fucking remember.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think it's the best thing black and white people did together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Andrew Schultz]

Including Barack Obama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get the fuck out of here.

[Andrew Schultz]

Remember the Titans is an amazing story. It's so beautiful. You gotta watch it. Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Strongside. He was a football player.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, he was the coach of a town that I think was, like, the school was segregated, and then they integrated the school or something like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was in it.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you mean he was in it? He was it.

[Alex]

He was the move.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Denzel.

[Andrew Schultz]

What? Yo, he's on your shirt right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought that was Friday Night Lights.

[Andrew Schultz]

They also got that, but there's less of a racial component.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Denzel was in Friday Night. He wasn't in Friday Night Lights.

[Andrew Schultz]

You tell me that's not Denzel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, man. This is Malcolm X. But, yes, Denzel did a great job

[Andrew Schultz]

playing Malcolm X. I thought it was a biopic. I thought.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying? That's how good he was in that role.

[Andrew Schultz]

I thought he was a civil rights activist before he was the greatest American actor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you've ever read the Autobiography of Malcolm X. You know what I mean? If you've ever seen Malcolm X speeches is kind of right. Like, Denzel really embodied that character to the point that if you're from a certain generation, you might have thought that was Malcolm even at the end. Remember at the end when they showed a real Malcolm? Are we sure? Look, the spirit of Malcolm was definitely in Denzel.

[Andrew Schultz]

The spirit of Malcolm was in death, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

100%.

[Taylor]

You guys talked about. You talked about this recently? Maybe a couple weeks ago.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Taylor]

But I just went to go see the Super Mario movies. Great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fire.

[Taylor]

Movie.

[Alex]

Fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fantastic.

[Taylor]

Great movie. Oh, my. I never seen them. I meant to go back to watch the first one. I never seen it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How much fun.

[Taylor]

The second one's so much better. Like, it was so good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fantastic.

[Taylor]

And on shrooms. Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You did it on. You watched it on shrooms?

[Taylor]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See what I'm saying? You and Mario. You know what that movie's really about, right? Did you see all the Reptilians in the theater, being that you was on Shroom? You know that that movie is all about. That movie is literally about a guy being on Shroom and being able to see the world the real way. His consciousness level is super high, so he can see all the Reptilians that actually rule this motherfucking circumstance.

[Andrew Schultz]

So would y.

[Taylor]

So would y' all just stay in a.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stay woke.

[Taylor]

No, no. Would y' all just stay in that type of world?

[Andrew Schultz]

Realm.

[Chris]

World.

[Taylor]

Yeah, world. Would y' all go back to Earth?

[Andrew Schultz]

I would go back to Earth and reality.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You would, but Mario and Luigi go back and forth through the pipes.

[Taylor]

Yeah, but would you just, like, you wouldn't care about work things. That would be your work. Going to the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think what you're discussing now is Avatar.

[Alex]

Avatar.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean? Would you want to stay in your. Yo. I don't know if that's a. I wouldn't know if that's a fantasy land.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think if I was our lies for sure. Like I understand why he wants to be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's running and jumping around. He's got chicks smashing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dick's still getting hard.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, crazy hard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fucking with your tail is crazy. Cause his longest dick, my God, that's

[Andrew Schultz]

the longest dick you got in your body.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you imagine if God designed people like that? For real?

[Andrew Schultz]

Can you imagine if God gave you a dick and a tail and the girl's looking at you like, yo, put that other thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you imagine Pinocchio putting his nose in your butt? And you keep lying on purpose.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'd lie non stop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

I'd be like, this shit doesn't smell at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what the tail is.

[Andrew Schultz]

This just smells like peaches.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean? This. Just keep lying and lying until the nose comes out his mouth. But I would like to be in and out of virtual world. But we do that anyway when we go to sleep. When we go to sleep and we dream, we're in and out of virtual world.

[Taylor]

Yeah, but you don't you remember your dreams every night?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For the most part, yeah. Not every night, but for the most part, somebody remembers them. There's a version of me that remembers them somewhere. I really believe when you dream you're in the motherfucking multiverse anyway. So I believe that there's a version of you that, you know, remembers the dream in some dimension.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I can see it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

Because it's a manifestation of your subconscious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anyway, that's all it is. You ain't. You gotta go see the Super Mario movie.

[Taylor]

You didn't see it?

[Andrew Schultz]

The new one I didn't see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta see it really, because it's just good fun, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what people want right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And if you grew up in a certain era, it's just like. It's so nostalgic. There's a. There's a part where they show you the old game. Yeah, they're showing the old game on the screen to match the current movie. Oh, it's really, really, really, really good.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's really good. That's what. Maybe it's cuz we're old heads and that's what we're going through a lot, our nostalgia play. But I do think that's the energy right now. It's just like escapism and fun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know why? Because you can't trust anything new that is true.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is it fake? Is it AI, is it bots?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And is it going to give you that you're looking for a certain feeling and everything.

[Alex]

Even.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even the kids are looking for a certain feeling.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Because everything in their life is making them stressed. Are they going to have a job? Is they are going to replace their job? Is it going to be constant war? They're going to be able to support their family, Are they going to be able to afford health insurance? Everything is existential crisis. So you give them a little escape, a break from that. You're going to run it up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. And to your point, nothing is real, Nothing feels authentic. You know what I mean? Which is why I think we're about to see a great disconnect where you see a lot of people start disconnecting away from social media, Internet, just because people are going to get tired of saying, yo, is this real or not?

[Andrew Schultz]

I think you're right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anybody got time for that shit, man? I think there's going to be a great disconnect real soon, I think. I mean, I kind of think it's happening now, to be honest with you.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think we disconnect from social. I don't know if we disconnect from like quality.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Quality, Quality production. Quality production. 100%. I noticed the disconnect from social just being out and about in the world. Like pay attention when you're out and about. There was a time where everybody seemed like they was doing this. That shit ain't the same no more. I don't see as many people just pulling out their phones, walking around like they used to. Like there's people that got their heads up a lot more paying attention to what's going on in the world.

[Andrew Schultz]

I gotta pay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I gotta look for that at the airports, really, College campuses, games. Like I'm.

[Taylor]

Maybe her phone just died though. Cuz I still see it. What happened?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was that? What was that? Does anybody even know what that was?

[Andrew Schultz]

That's Taylor being Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did my phone dying have to do with everybody?

[Andrew Schultz]

Taylor? No, you just people.

[Taylor]

I'm saying, what if you just caught them with a.

[Andrew Schultz]

She's like, what if every single person on the street. What if every single person on the street's phone died while you were possible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, the Chinese ain't playing. It's possible Are. It's possible. Yo, you heard that technology that they had at the Avenger Doomsday screening? Everybody that went to the Avenger Doomsday

[Andrew Schultz]

screening, I was at Cinemacon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cinemacon. They said that the reason there was no leaks.

[Alex]

There was a leak.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Huh?

[Alex]

There was a leak.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where was it at?

[Alex]

Is this online now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't see no leaks. They said it was a green laser going across the theater. And they said the green laser disabled your phone.

[Alex]

Oh, no. Spider man leaks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry. Oh, they say at Doomsday and they showed the trailer twice. They showed it twice to a theater full of people. Said it was a green light going across the theater that disabled your phone. So you pulled your phone out. Everything just went black. I saw that shit happen to me with Prince when I pulled out the phone. God bless the dead, by the way, this is the 10 year anniversary of Prince. Prince died April 21, 2016. When Prince came to the Breakfast Club and he came and he shook our hands. It was early in the morning. I asked him to take a picture. He was like, oh, I don't wanna take a picture right now.

[Guest]

Cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Respected it. But when he walked off, I took a picture of him from the back. When I went to go show everybody that picture, the picture was there for one split second. Then it was just a black box. DJ Envy's my witness. It was just a black box in my phone. I said, holy shit. Now that I think about it, he had something in his fucking cape.

[Alex]

Maybe your phone just died.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do we got on the docket?

[Taylor]

Okay, so speaking of technology, I saw this post about what Japan has that we don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There she goes, shooting that Chris again.

[Taylor]

I'm not shooting. I thought it was interesting though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Japan has a way of turning ordinary things into surprisingly smart technology. Japanese technology that doesn't exist in the U.S. okay, what they got? What does that even mean? Ultra fine bubble showers.

[Taylor]

Stephanie shower has now inject nano bubbles

[Andrew Schultz]

smaller than.0001 meters into the water to

[Taylor]

deep clean pores without using any soap.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Andrew Schultz]

We got to use soap.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even.

[Taylor]

Automated underground bike slots.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's fire. Automated underground bike silos the same space. Japan uses eco cycle silos that store your bike in a high speed robotic vault 12 meters beneath the sidewalk. What's the point of that?

[Andrew Schultz]

So your bikes aren't all up in

[Alex]

the street and people can't steal it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but what if you got to get the fuck on in a hurry? Now I gotta wait for the fucking bike to come.

[Andrew Schultz]

You gotta Wait on line of 100 other people leaving office to get the bike for that shit, man. Vibrating chef knife.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The vibrating chef knife. Useless kitchen standard that vibrates 30,000 times per second to slice through frozen meat. A soft bread with zero physical pressure.

[Andrew Schultz]

Dumb.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's like a chainsaw.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, keep going.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This a little mini chainsaw.

[Andrew Schultz]

The bone conduction lollipop. A high tech candy that uses your jawbone to transmit high fidelity music directly to your inner ear while you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, they need to make that a dick. Imagine like the cock conduction lollipop.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's a little. That's a vibrator right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like a little lollipop that's shaped like a dick that you can suck on that plays music at the same time. You know what I'm saying? Lil Wayne lollipop playing while you sucking on this mini. The bus stop pocket cancer sniffers. Miniature old factory sensors that can detect early stage lung cancer indicators by analyzing just one breath from a user. I like that. That's a good one. But what you supposed to do once you find out that you have cancer? Like what do you do after that?

[Taylor]

You got to go to the doctor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Doing cancer breathalyzer test is crazy. Okay. The wearable voice mask. The soundproof mask that allows you to have a private full volume phone call in a crowded room without anyone nearby hearing a single word.

[Taylor]

I knew Chris was like, that's fly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's fly. Okay, Taylor.

[Andrew Schultz]

I just thought it was interesting little technology segment. Taylor. Tech segment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not mad at that. Taylor Tech. TT TT Taylor tech. What else you got? Taylor? Tech.

[Andrew Schultz]

What technology would you want? Taylor? Like what's something you would want that would make your life easy?

[Taylor]

Definitely. What's the word called? You could go to one spot to another.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, teleportation.

[Taylor]

Teleportation will be fighting or teleportation or invisibility.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know they got that already. See y' all don't be paying attention. Y'. All. Y' all algorithm is awful.

[Taylor]

Where is the teleportation?

[Andrew Schultz]

He's actually not wrong.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your algorithm's all fucked up. There's a congressman. I cannot remember his name. Put it up. There's a congressman who testified that they already had that there's beings from other dimensions coming through portals. And he talked about reverse engineering folding

[Andrew Schultz]

space time so that you could pop up wherever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it got that shit now, man.

[Taylor]

Well, how can we access it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They don't give it to us. Maybe, maybe another 30.

[Andrew Schultz]

That would be nuclear war if they gave it to us. I think well, if we're the only ones that have it and we can just appear inside gping's house when he's by himself, do whatever we want to him, and then just be back in America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It would be Bradford, I think that's the name. It would be. It would be regulated. Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

What should be right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because to me. To me, something like that is like WI fi. Where the fuck did WI fi come from? What is WI fi?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, I'm with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is WI fi? We fucking know, but for whatever reason, it's in certain areas. In certain areas it's not.

[Andrew Schultz]

What about those things where you charge your phone just by laying it on it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

How the fuck does it do that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, how the fuck does it do that?

[Andrew Schultz]

Tell me how it does it. I mean, I got my case on.

[Taylor]

I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

I got my case on. I put it right here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

WiFi, gluten, Dubai chocolate. Where did this shit come from? Where did like, where did this shit come from?

[Andrew Schultz]

These are great questions.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All of a sudden this shit just takes over our lives and we don't ask no questions like why the fuck are everybody eating green chocolate all of a sudden? When I was in Dubai, I didn't see Dubai Chocolate. Now all of a sudden it's Dubai Chocolate.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, that's a good point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the fuck?

[Chris]

Yo, do you guys believe in vinyl record?

[Andrew Schultz]

Huh?

[Chris]

Vinyl records? No, I've been thinking about it.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't think they ever did any of that shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Break it down, Chris. Yeah, it's bound.

[Chris]

So a vinyl record is supposed to be. The sounds that the band records are basically relayed through thousands of thousands of microscopic grooves on.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's fucked up.

[Alex]

The moment you start speaking, they both

[Andrew Schultz]

pick up their phone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I'm looking to see what the fuck he's talking about.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was also looking up at the screens.

[Chris]

Let me see the screens.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was looking up vinyl. Vinyl coffee. What is it? Vinyl coffee makers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You still didn't explain it, Chris. You said what now?

[Chris]

I lost my mojo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fucking Alex, man. Alex. You teleported into his fucking mind listening

[Andrew Schultz]

to this too, bro?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Looking at our phones when Chris talk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn, man.

[Alex]

I'm explaining it for the audio experience.

[Andrew Schultz]

That was up. That we both did it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I was looking it up.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was counting on you to keep pain.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was listening. I wanted to hear what he was talking about. You said vinyl. I'm lying. I was looking up gr. Philip. Chris. I'm be honest with you, Chris. I was looking up With Taylor, I wanted to look up the great Philip. The guy who was appointed to the lead Office of Response and Recovery claimed that in January 25, he was teleported 50 miles to a Waffle House in Rome.

[Alex]

The number two official at the Federal

[Andrew Schultz]

Emergency Management Agency, Greg Phillips, claimed that he has been involuntarily teleported twice, once

[Alex]

to a Waffle House.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was with my boys one time, and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I was telling I was gonna

[Andrew Schultz]

go to Waffle House, and I end up at a Waffle House like 50 miles away from where I was. I said, that's not possible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just left here, like, a long way to go. I was listening, though. It wasn't like I wasn't listening, Chris. I just know how to multitask, that's all. I don't.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can't say more than one word.

[Alex]

He said, like, two sentences.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did hear him. He said that vinyl is what artists said. The sound, the music sounds like.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't gotta. You don't gotta do all that. Hey, bro, you don't gotta do all that. Hey, yo, you gotta watch. You gotta watch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris, that was good information.

[Andrew Schultz]

Chris, you gotta watch him sip his

[Charlamagne Tha God]

coffee right now, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's humbling, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris, that was good information, Chris. Chris, listen, that our reaction had nothing to do with the information you was giving, okay? I wanted to hear the rest of it.

[Chris]

Okay, we'll circle back to it later.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, well, see, that's a good vinyl. Circle back. You gotta circle back.

[Chris]

That was intentional.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, you gotta circle back. What else we got? Taylor Gang. Taylor gang, Gang.

[Taylor]

Do y' all care about the.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes.

[Taylor]

Iceman, yo.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes. Okay, let's go. When is it dropping, Taylor?

[Taylor]

The day before my birthday. What a hoe. But, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn. I thought I was looking. That was some good hate. That was some good hate, Taylor. That was, like, unnecessary. The best hate is just needless, unnecessary shots.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The day before my birthday. What a hoe. Like, God, like, as if Drake even knew that. Like, if Drake was sitting around like, I'm gonna drop this. Iceman. The day before Taylor's birthday. Okay, what is the.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is, like, the creative here?

[Taylor]

I think it says promote. I think it's a good promotion, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's fantastic.

[Alex]

Set up a bunch of ice blocks, and then inside one of the ice blocks has, I think, an envelope that says the release album.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's.

[Andrew Schultz]

So the people have to destroy all the ice until they get to that. Yeah, yeah. Is that the idea?

[Alex]

I don't know how to Wait for it to melt and then they find out.

[Andrew Schultz]

But then some people, people not waiting, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They came there with flamethrowers. Pitchfork. Pitchfork. Listen, I love it. The reason I love it is because nobody does rollouts anymore. Everybody think they fucking Beyonce from 10 years ago and they can Dr. Drop, drop, drop. And it's like, nah, do a motherfucking rollout. And the funny thing is, I see people on social media saying, man, fuck all these gimmicks and these antics. Just drop the motherfucking music.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let us build it up a little bit, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There used to be a time where people used to build things up. They would do proper rollouts. And the reality is Drake can't afford. He's not going to flop, but he can't afford anything less than crazy, crazy numbers because of the social media narratives that's gonna happen if he don't.

[Taylor]

Yeah, and people are already saying here, hey, diss track for Kendrick and maybe J. Cole.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody want to hear that. Nobody want to see you reheat Cole. French fries. There ain't no circle in the block. Just go ahead and make your records for the club.

[Taylor]

You know, he's going to make your

[Charlamagne Tha God]

records for the ladies. Like, keep it moving. Nobody want to see you circle the block. You lost, by the way. That's what I was always telling folks when it came to Drake. He's still Drake, but you lost a rap battle. That's it. Keep it moving. The only person that made this situation worse after the fact was you with the lawsuits and everything else. Please, Drake, two years later, for the love of God, do not try to circle the block. Okay? You're lost. It is what it is. Keep it moving. That's it.

[Alex]

What do you think had the best album rollout in recent times?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Three people to me, the clips, Cardi B. And I like what Drake's doing right here. I like what Drake's doing. Cole. Cole had a. Cole had a decent rollout as well. But Cardi's rollout was fantastic. Cause Cardi was actually doing the same thing. She was doing stunts. She was out on the block acting like she was selling her CD on the street. You know what I mean? She had her music being delivered through Uber Eats, a Doordash or one of those. The clips. Just because they, they, they, they, they walked the stroll, they went everywhere. You know what I mean? Like, they actually showed. Same thing with Cardi. Cardi showed up to a lot of different media outlets as well. Like, yo, act like your music is valuable. Act like it's worth something. Like, don't just spend all this time in the studio and then just go out and just drop.

[Andrew Schultz]

I agree.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, make it an event.

[Andrew Schultz]

If you believe in your shit and you think it's great, why not promote it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Make it an event. The reason everybody looks at music like it's disposable nowadays, because nobody throw it

[Andrew Schultz]

out like it's disposable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just throw it out like it's disposable. You, like, fuck it. So if you like, fuck it, I'm like, fuck it. I'm gonna listen to it one time and keep it moving. I do hate the narrative, though, that everybody is like, oh, my God, the game is so boring without Drake. You know who's saying that things are. Things are not the same without Drake.

[Andrew Schultz]

That conversation's out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know why it's such a whack narrative?

[Andrew Schultz]

Why is that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause Drake ain't going nowhere. Drake just put out an album. Why we acting like the Party Next Door album didn't come out? Why we acting like he didn't drop mad singles over the last couple of years? Drake hasn't gone anywhere. Nokia was just last year. Why are we acting like that was 2025?

[Chris]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When did that album come out? Taylor, look it up. The Drake and Party Next Door album. Some sexy songs for you. 2024 was the beef. Yeah. Some sexy songs for you. What was that other shit he had the Wag Wanda Liar. That. Like, that. He's been putting out mad music. Like we're acting like he wasn't putting out music. Like, cut it out. His just wasn't sticking. Yeah, but Nokia was a big record.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Alex]

No, kid.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Baby girl, cut it out, man. Stop. What was that album? When did that album.

[Taylor]

2025.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's what month?

[Taylor]

February.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. See what I'm saying?

[Alex]

Oh, wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, stop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hate to. I hate these narratives that people create online and folks just run with because of a feeling. Nobody ever just stops and says, well, that don't make any sense because he's been putting out music for the last two years. Where is he gone? Like, you know, where is he. Where is. Where is he going? When people talk about the. That, oh, there's no hip hop on the charts. There's reasons for that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why is that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People aren't making the type of records that the charts 1 charting is about streaming sales and radio speech. You get those three things. You get records that chart.

[Andrew Schultz]

I also think it's like culture, right? Like culture asks for different things. Like the white boy indie rock bands are popping Right now, and they're having their moment. And I don't know if that's like, there was a moment where country was really having them on. Maybe, like, did you feel that maybe two years ago, like, everything was a kind of country song? The country songs were popping with Beyonce.

[Chris]

Oh, she dropped it, of course.

[Andrew Schultz]

But it's like right now, maybe, like the white boy indie rocker is popping and maybe the pendulum is swung in that direction, and who knows how long it stays over there. But.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But also, the charts is just one metric. The number one, the number one streamed genre in America is still hip hop and R and B.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sure, sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The number two scream genre in the whole world is still hip hop and R and B. Number one is pop. And so that. And even that's sketchy, right? Because pop is everything.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm more just saying, like, there's moments in time where, like, EDM is super popular. Everybody's getting behind that. There's moments where different genres are going to be more popular than others. And I think this feels like the first moment in our lives where hip hop isn't. Or in the last two decades where hip hop isn't the only pop culture driving force.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Two years ago, we was having the same conversation. Two years ago.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think that's when it started.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, two years ago, before the Kendrick, Drake beef, which everybody says is the reason hip hop isn't charged.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't think that's the reason why it's uncharted. But I think that that was like a massive zenith. Right. Like, for the genre. And like it. You can. There's no way that it wasn't. It can be more. Thank you so much, Alex. There's no way that it can be more popular than that. Like when Drake and Kendrick were beefing. I don't know if there was ever a time in history where rap music was more talked about, was in more conversations, was more digested. Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can, yes. When?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A bunch of times, bro. Like, we are such, win, win, win, win, win.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm talking about internationally.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's go back to the early 2000s when you had people. You had Eminem, Nelly, Jay Z. Yeah, but look how far DMX went back. Ludacris. But I'm saying they were all on the charts at one time.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I said. I said in the last two decades.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Two decades.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's more than two decades ago. Early, early 2000s, also. What I would say is that I don't think that they were as big internationally at that time. Rap music has transcended Transcended nations. Right. Over the last two decades, you go to any part of the world and you're in a club, you're gonna hear rap music. I remember when I was living in Barcelona when I was 20 years old, we had to go to a specific club that played rap music because it wasn't ubiquitous. You didn't just go to the bar and hear it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's still a case of bar. Is that true?

[Andrew Schultz]

You're saying like you don't hear Drake at the club or you don't hear.

[Alex]

Really, their clubs are super segregated.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is bad money?

[Alex]

Hip hop clubs, Spanish clubs, EDM clubs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that Drake Hendrick thing was probably one of the most biggest moments that has been talked about.

[Andrew Schultz]

It had to be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But. Yes, but, but overall, cultural genre wise, there's been times where the overall culture. Culture of hip hop was way more. You think talked about. Yeah, I just think 10 artists that was charting selling millions and millions of albums around the world at once.

[Alex]

Is there any chance that the reason why hip hop isn't charting the way it was because of the whole bot situation and the highlight that bots are in the industry and now maybe people have cracked down on it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Maybe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I think it's more so that there's just new metrics for how things are measured.

[Alex]

Like wait a minute, when Spotify did that audit, like a billion streams got taken away.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But also, also Billboard changed the rules. Remember Billboard changed the rules to where your song can only be on for a certain amount of time or something like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Change rules where like you don't get credit if you like buy merch with the album or whatever the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, they changed a lot of rules.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, but I. To Alex's point, there is a version now I would be flabbergasted if the other genres are aren't also botting their streams. Like I imagine, like this is a label thing. It's a label thing. I imagine the labels go. And again, you can't bought a shitty song and then it becomes good. But you can bought a song that is good and push it to the top. Yeah, and maybe that was happening and maybe they're not doing that as much. So now it's not as prevalent. But I imagine they also take away the streams from the country or the take away from the edm. So those would go down too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex]

They weren't doing it as much it said possible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In 2025, Billboard heavily updated chart rules to prioritize page creams clamp down on direct to consumer sales Manipulation and speed up the removal of older songs from the Hot 100. So they also changed the rules as well. But also the charts is just one metric, right? Like I said, hip hop R and B is still the number one most streamed genre in America. Just cause it's not charting doesn't mean anything. It just means that all the dots haven't connected. For certain artists, you need screams, you need radio sales. And what was the other thing? Yeah, screams, radio spins and sales.

[Andrew Schultz]

I also think that like the new generation of young hip hop artists hasn't impacted. That's right, the. The greater culture of like music listeners.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's coming though.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I'm sure it is. But what I'm saying is like right now we're still listening to guys who are like, they're our age, they're in their 40s. Like the top guys in the game are in the 40s. There's nothing wrong with that. But like music is usually dominated by the youth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's coming. Marco plus is on the way. Reuben Vincent is there. Like the Kai Cashes of the world, the Chris Patrick of the world. All of them youngins is right there. And that's the other thing. Like you said, there's a new wave of hip hop coming and they're still learning how to connect the dots. But I will tell those kids something. Don't sleep on making records for the radio. Making records for the radio. What about the club?

[Chris]

How much do you think the fact that kids don't seem to dance as much factors into it? Because that's how you always would hear. It's going off in the clubs, it's going off in the clubs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But once again, we're using old metrics, right, Chris? Kids still dance, they're just not dancing

[Taylor]

on TikTok, that's all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So make records for radio that can be distributed in all places like TikTok and people still dance.

[Andrew Schultz]

Something that slaps in a club is different than something that slaps on your floor communally.

[Chris]

As opposed to doing it in a room by yourself versus go listen to

[Andrew Schultz]

a Travis Scott concert live. He's someone who makes music for the live show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, the live. The live events ain't going nowhere.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I'm not saying. What I'm saying is there are certain people who curate their music for specific types of events. And Travis is making his music for the live event. And when you're at is one of the most engaging live performances you ever feel. I think you could say the same thing about Kanye. Like when you were listening to Those albums live. I remember being at MSG when he was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How did your Jewish team feel about that? How does Duff feel when you say things like that? Well, even think about them.

[Andrew Schultz]

I told him to go home before we talk about Kanye. You gotta get home. There might be a Kanye conversation. I was at MSG when he did. What was the one when he was on the stage that moved.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I was there, too. That was the. That was the Life of Pablo tour.

[Andrew Schultz]

That. That.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that was fire. Life of Pablo tour was fire.

[Andrew Schultz]

And that's pre Nazi emergency.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was definitely pretty Nazi.

[Andrew Schultz]

So we can enjoy that. Like, it was good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna tell you something about Kanye, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think about Kanye probably every couple of weeks and get sad. Yep. And I tell you why. Tell me every when. Because, you know, he's always in the news. Like, he's in the news now. Because I think he was just. He just went.

[Andrew Schultz]

Trying to apologize.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Again. For the millionth time. And then he got spotted at some Jewish something. I forgot. Look it up, Taylor. Some Jewish center or something. Yo, the generational fumble. The generational fumble. And what made me think about it was you saw the report that it said

[Taylor]

there's Jewish Human Rights Center.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jewish Human Rights Center. What was it? Was the report about the sneakers not selling like they used to? The NBA sneakers? Did you see that?

[Andrew Schultz]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on. Let me look that up. You went, no. Don't lie. Yo. Yo. Alex just looked at the video was like, this was so fire.

[Alex]

No, he live streamed it on YouTube.

[Taylor]

Oh, why can't you go to a. I mean, I get the.

[Andrew Schultz]

The context, but post Nazi, you can

[Charlamagne Tha God]

go if you want to.

[Taylor]

But what does music got to do with what his opinion? Like, why can we separate the artist?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. It said.

[Andrew Schultz]

It said, can we still watch the Cosby Show?

[Taylor]

I still want to watch the Cosby Show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I still watch the Cosby Show.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right, then y' all could go watch. Yay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It says night stock drop sparks debate over NBA player popularity. And Brian Windhorst was saying that Knights. He suggested that knights struggle to sell basketball shoes is partly because current NBA players lack the massive cultural influence of past generations.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think there's two. I think there's two things going on here. I think part of that is true. Like, there hasn't been a transformative talent that is wearing a Nike sneaker in a while.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, not an American one.

[Andrew Schultz]

Not an American one. Which is important. Right. Like, Steph wore Under Armour. If Steph was in a pair of Nikes, it would be the Greatest selling sneaker in the history of the NBA.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Steph made Under Armour. Cool. But you know how hard that is, son. That's more. That's a more degree of difficulty than any shot he's ever made.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I bought him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You did?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I bought him thinking they would help me with my jumper.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying? You wanted to be like grown ass man.

[Andrew Schultz]

It made me understand the impact of Michael Jordan with sneakers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Be like, Mike. Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because I saw this guy and I was like, I had ankle issues. He had ankle issues. I can't shoot. He can. And I was like, well, if it fixed the ankles, maybe it could fix this. I don't know. Like, I couldn't find it myself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Remember the D. Brown punk? Remember you used to buy the D. Brown pumps and pump them up because you thought it would make you be able to die. All of us was missing the rim, doing this stupid here running and falling into the grass.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I say another one? The Nike shocks that Vince Carter wore with a little boing at the bottom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schultz]

I see Vince jumping out the gym, I'm like, I gotta get a little extra boing. The hilarious part about that is that the boing was on the heel and we jump off our toes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

And I still bought them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

So we do. But what, what NBA player that has a transformative game, the type of game that you want to have, wears a Nike right now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

None. None. But.

[Alex]

But I don't think that's it. Right now. Fashion has changed. Well, like right now, dad shoe. And the low profile shoe is in. Basketball shoes aren't in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right. But you know why that is in? Because the basketball shoes ain't it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, I would say there's another. There's another reason for that. Nike opened up all the Nike stores, right? And what they started doing is pulling their sneakers out of Foot Locker. They started pulling all their heat out of the sneaker stores because they were like, we want you to come to Nike towns around the world to buy the Nike sneakers. We want you to buy it on nike.com or whatever like that. Like, why are we selling it to the middleman? And then all those stores that do curate culture started filling their shelves with Adidas, with New Balance. All of a sudden there was all these spaces open that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they had been open for. And they came with he balance. Had he.

[Andrew Schultz]

So honestly, it's on Nike for the Huberts to be like, you know what they're going to Come to us no matter what. And I think that they regret that decision in retro.

[Chris]

One more reason I don't think the NBA player has the same status with really young fans. I'm talking like 20 and under. I think overtime elite. These are the guys that when I talk to, like kids, that's who they're sweating. They're not necessarily sweating somebody, you know, Harden anymore or somebody like that. It's all these overtime elite stars.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, Chris, Chris got a point. I will say that I think NBA players are popular. They just don't have as much influence.

[Andrew Schultz]

So like, like, like 100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, like there's people, there's so many other people in various industries who have more influence than NBA players. Like, there's certain screamers that have more influence. There's certain YouTubers, there's, you know, podcasters, there's certain people even still in, in television and film industry that have more influence than the NBA players.

[Andrew Schultz]

And what was the point you were

[Chris]

making, Chris, over time? Different role models, players that these kids look up to.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, what I forgot. Oh, I think the other thing is LeBron never had a nice sneaker. So you have the best player.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, he had one era. What was that? It was the LeBron. Damn. I had a bunch of them. Shit. Yo, remember, it was, it was one was called the LeBron Miami. You know the style I'm talking about? What this? That he had one that was really fire, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Honestly. Maybe. But like the guys had 20 different pairs of sneakers throughout his career. And there's not a single one that I feel like I missed.

[Alex]

But there was, there was a time where people were, they were wearing them

[Andrew Schultz]

because he was so good.

[Alex]

I think it was Sixes, if I'm not mistaken.

[Andrew Schultz]

There was no design that we looked at, were like, I gotta have it. Kyrie had a sneaker that was fire.

[Alex]

That's true.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really, but. And he had a game that was transformative. And everybody was hooping into Kyrie's. Like, I remember it, they even made the soul like a, like a motorcycle tire. It was like curved. Because they said that his game had so much like side to side movement that he needed traction on the side. They gassed you up so you would buy them. But Nike, you bought those too. Yo, you're marketing you. I'm very susceptible if to things that make me better athletically.

[Chris]

Word.

[Andrew Schultz]

AI, AI. If we're being honest, never had a nice looking sneaker. He was so cool and he was so dominating when it came to cultural influence that we all had the questions we all had the answers. I had four different pairs of Allen Iverson sneaker.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me tell you something. Allen Iverson was so cool that I don't even know if I agree with you right now. But I don't know if I disagree with you neither. Cause I had all of those sneakers.

[Andrew Schultz]

But you thought they were fired.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In my mind, I still think they fired black and white looks now. Not all of them. Now that. What number is that? What is that? What's that? The V. The re. No, what? The fours. Right answer. That one, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The answer, four. Those are black and white. Answer four. And the red and white answer. Yes, sir.

[Andrew Schultz]

The ones that were fired were the ones that were like. There was like a metallic blue on the toe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, man. Go back, Taylor.

[Andrew Schultz]

It was a metallic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right here. Right there. That one right there. The third one right there. One, two right there. And then the other colorway, the red and white. What's that? The four, right?

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The answer four. Step over fire. I'll wear those right now. You might see me in those this summer.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I love AI. He's the fucking goat. But like, I haven't missed them, bro. I haven't missed. I haven't missed those sneakers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I. I know, but I don't know if it's cause of nostalgia. I will rock the Answer four step overs right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, nostalgia for sure. And because he was so amazing, how much rock any other. But if any other basketball player of that time rock these sneakers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know if he right.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I don't know if he wrong either.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the thing. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The fact that it's 50.

[Andrew Schultz]

50.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like. I don't know if he's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

There aren't people that are. That are rocking Jordans to this day that never watched Jordan play basketball.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because the sneakers were fire. And then after. After the 12s, Jordans were ass. Yeah, but nobody rocked The Jordan after 12.

[Alex]

14.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, the 14s. Yeah, yeah. Pull up Jordan's signature sneakers. Jordan had Jordan the 14th. And the 15s, I believe was. Was kind of fire.

[Alex]

I think the 14th.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where's Wayno when we need them? Way know where. Way. No, at when we need him, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Put sneakers.

[Taylor]

The ones.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, remember how last week we was having a conversation about directors and actors?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you. After you. If you got eight or nine bangers.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Jordan's sneaker run is the most amazing.

[Taylor]

Yeah, look at that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Four, bro. I'll that four, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Of course. You go, balls.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll put my dick on every Jordan sneaker. Look at that 13, man. At the bottom of that 13, I might be.

[Andrew Schultz]

I might be 12. Wait, where's the 13s? I might be up on the 13 at 12. 13s are fine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The 4, the 12, and pull up the fives. You know, the LeBron. I liked the 9 and the 10. We'll pull those up next. But the LeBron 9 and the LeBron 10. I used to like those. Those were fire. But I'm going to bring all of this back to Kanye after we do this, you know? But pennies.

[Taylor]

I want to wear them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pennies was hard. Pennies was hard. Okay, pull up. Go to the first one. Go to the first one. Taylor, you what?

[Andrew Schultz]

You were. Al, please, let's have this conversation, because I think you brought up a great point that executes exactly what we're trying to say. Anthony Hardaway. Go. Amazing talent. Unfortunately had some injuries, had an amazing game that we all loved, but the sneakers were so fire.

[Alex]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

That we didn't care if he was injured or not. There are hard. There are pennies. Right now. We don't even call pennies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're right. Remember, after 99, it was over. Scroll up, Taylor.

[Andrew Schultz]

Scroll up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

After 99, what is that? 15, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't even think the 15.

[Alex]

That's the 15.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think nobody liked the 15. I like the 15s were asked. I didn't like. The black girls would wear them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

13s were fire.

[Andrew Schultz]

13s, the 13s, it was. 1 through 13 is exceptional.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

1 through 13 is undefeated.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exceptional.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

14. The 14s went crazy. 14 to 15 was kind of fire. I think after 15, it was completely, completely over. But I mean, God damn, once he

[Alex]

started doing the stuff where it covers the shoelace and you have to take it off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, no. Those were fire, too, though. The very last ones. But those are the retros, right? Oh, the six rings.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. But they're just basically recreating all the old ones together. I hated those.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, Penny. Penny was a product of.

[Andrew Schultz]

What were those pennies called? The Hyper. No, no, no. I don't remember. Phone posits.

[Alex]

Oh, phone positives.

[Andrew Schultz]

We started calling them Deposits once Penny stopped having his influence. But they were pennies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know what else Penny had? Phenomenal marketing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, of course. Lil Penny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We can remember your mascot.

[Andrew Schultz]

100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We can remember your fucking mascot, Lil Penny. And he was doing it with Chris Rock doing the voice. It was very reminiscent of Jordan doing the shit with Spike Lee. Like, I mean, pennies were phenomenal. We haven't seen a great marketing campaign like that. Those are all time great sneaker marketing campaigns. LeBron has never had an all time great marketing campaign.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because I'll be honest, the sneakers, don't

[Taylor]

they look like Space Jam sneakers?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it's. They're too, like futuristic and weird. Yo, if you really look at old Jordans, they're kind of simple. Look at them like, they're kind of simple. Like, I don't think they're simple. Yo, the. The 11s are a very simple aesthetic. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Which was the most?

[Chris]

11.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't count the. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the patent leathers, you wouldn't have thought of that, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, of course not. It was a ballsy thing to put patent leather on a man's shoe.

[Chris]

No, the Adidas had those in the early 80s. I'm not saying that that was the hottest sneaker before.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, it was. Okay. Got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got about the ones made from vinyl.

[Andrew Schultz]

Chris, son, look at the. Look at the 12s. The 12 super simple. I honestly think the most popular Jordans are the most simple ones. The ones super simple. The 11s, the 12s, the 13s, even. You see, like crazy simple.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what's so crazy? I'm sitting here, I couldn't think of designing these sneakers in a million years. But we're calling them simple. I couldn't think of in a million years. I couldn't do. I get what you're saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

I actually think, like, it takes a genius to divide to design something simple and make it look incredible. Less is more like it. And that's the problem with the LeBron's, in my opinion. It's like more is more. It's too much shit going on. The late Jordans is too much shit going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a lot going on.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, the fours.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How simple. The fours. Oh, my God, I love them. That's my favorite shit ever, bro. And by the way, they were always a statement piece. If you had those on, somebody was gonna give you a compliment somewhere. I mean, you know, if you. Certain areas, you was gonna get robbed. That's why they was. But, you know, the first time I ever met Killer Mike, that's how the conversation started.

[Andrew Schultz]

He was wearing yours?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was wearing them. I was wearing the fours. And he was like. I had the. What used to call them the concrete fours, the cement fours or something like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, some metal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I was in Columbus, South Carolina, and he was like, what's up, man? He said, yo, I like them. Sneakers. And I'm thinking to myself, hope you don't ask me what my size is, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

I gotta ask. I gotta ask the subway what size.

[Taylor]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause that's when they ready to take him off your feet.

[Taylor]

You think he's gonna rob you for your sneaker.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you gotta do certain things you don't want to hear. You don't want to hear where I'm from in a McDonald's.

[Andrew Schultz]

You sound like Chalamet right now, man. You sound like Timmy Chalamet. Just cause you with a rapper, you think he's going to rob you, bro. No, that's crazy, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was the era.

[Alex]

That's killer Mike.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was the era back then, man. I guess your point, but I bought. We bought all of that up to have the conversation about. When you talk about the last person who moved you to buy sneakers like a Steph Curry, who moves you to buy sneakers like a Michael Jordan, who made you want to get those phone posits because of Penny wasn't even a ball player. It was Kanye. Fucking. You're right.

[Alex]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think Kanye had culture. You're right. In a chokehold. Every age from 8 to 80, you could go on high school, middle school campus and see kids in the slides. You see older guys like us in the slides and in the dad shoe. And then NBA players started wearing the Yeezys on the basketball court. Kanye west would have had the NBA in a chokehold with his sneakers. I guarantee you by now he was with Adidas.

[Taylor]

No, no, no. Who was wearing his sneakers on?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I forgot.

[Andrew Schultz]

Look it up. His face had the Red Octobers. He's a big sneaker head too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's when he was doing the Nike joint.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tucker.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But somebody wore the Yeezys in the game. It wasn't those Yeezys right there. It was another.

[Andrew Schultz]

What's his first name? And no, he did those Yeezys, the elephant looking ones. You know who wore those? Gilbert Arenas's boy. He played for the Lakers. Swaggy P. Nick Young.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know, by now Kanye would have already had. He would have designed a basketball sneaker. But I think everybody in the league would have been wearing.

[Andrew Schultz]

But you made, you made the greatest point. It was we're. We watched the influence, the fashion and cultural influence shift from athletes to. To actual fashion influencers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I think like the Internet democratized influence in a way where it's like, okay, if I want to dress a certain way now I have people who I think dress Cool. And I could imit imitate their. That's available to me. Before that, we didn't really have that much of that. Like, think about that. Growing up, it was like you had NBA players, and you're like, well, that's what I want to be. I want to play in the league, and I would want to dress like the guys that play in the league. Now we have NBA players to model our game after. We have fashion influencers to model our outfits after. We have musicians that have specific music tastes that we want to replicate or, like, play when we're at home, everything is broken up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, Nick, you're right. Nick Young wardy adidas yeezy boo750,500 in the game. Montrez harold wardy adidas yeezy qntm basketball sneaker in the game. PJ Tucker wore the Nike Air Y2s. Nate Robinson wore the Nike Air Yeezy 2s. He only wore them for a quarter, though. This is when he was with Nike. And then they made the Adidas Yeezy Q&TM basketball sneaker, which was designed specifically for performance basketball. You know how many of those they would have made by now, bro? And being that there's no NBA player in the league who has a chokehold on things, Kanye would have absolutely had a chokehold on the NBA. So I'm not even gonna sit here in front of. I think about things like that, and I get sad.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, yo, that was a generational foam poll. Like, not even just from the money aspect. You know how hard it is to capture culture, bro. Facts to capture culture, Especially in the sneaker game. And you don't even got a wicked jump shot.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ain't dunking on nobody, but you've captured culture. He would have had everybody from just regular lifestyle to the NBA.

[Andrew Schultz]

I wonder if it's. It's the same level of influence that Run DMC had with the Shelter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Run DMC wish they had God. And I would say this respectfully. They wish they had the influence, but

[Andrew Schultz]

you don't think when they were rocking the shell toes and they did that aerospace and like. No, you don't. You don't think when we were young. Young, or even the generation before us saw that and they were like, this is the coolest shit I'm rocking. Shelton.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was. But it's a different level. That was them wearing something that they made cool as opposed to creating something true.

[Chris]

The shell toe was an old sneaker. It was Kareem's signature.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

That's been around since the mid-70s.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Making something from scratch and making it the thing that people want to wear.

[Chris]

Jordan was. I remember the week that the first Jordans dropped.

[Andrew Schultz]

Crazy.

[Chris]

And it was crazy because I was really into sneakers at the time, and then everybody had them, and then it got corny. It was more like a niche thing. Like, there weren't real sneakerheads yet. It was like the first generation. So I was into Olajuwon. Had a crazy pair of sneakers. The Dreams.

[Andrew Schultz]

Converse, right?

[Chris]

No, no, converse was Dr. J, Larry Bird, and then Hakeem had the tonics, which were nuts. Like, kind of purple and white thing. And Lotto had a map sneaker that had a map in New York City on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was hotto. Oh, the sneaker company.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, Lotto. There's dick in your mouth. That was tight around here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was an assist. That shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know. We call that an alley.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ooh, I got half of that one. You want to have to dictate it, Chris? I threw the loop. But no. And the ill thing about Kanye, Kanye wasn't just about style or performance. They were comfortable.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like back. I can't think of any of those sneakers we threw on back then. Cause they was comfortable. It was all because of style. You threw on Kanye. You threw on the slides.

[Taylor]

The foam. Running foam.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. Yeah. You can wiggle your toes in them shit. Like, them shit was com.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know who had a fire seeker? Charles Barkley had him. Like, CB34s. Remember those?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. The red ones and the black ones. Yes, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Those had a couple little sneakers I had.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We. I interviewed Dr. J today. That was ill. Oh, wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

How'd that go?

[Alex]

That's cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was dope. You know, I don't. I rarely. I rarely like facetime my pops or do a video for my pops, but I had to show him, like, you, Dr. J. He don't give a About none of these. What did his dad say? Hip to the hip top rappers. But he said. He said, that's the doctor. Cause, you know, when we were coming up and we was watching Michael Jordan, you know, we was raving over Michael Jordan. Your dad or somebody will be like, you like him. You need to go see goddamn Dr. J. You need to go watch Dr. J. You know, Dr. J. He's still smooth.

[Alex]

Is he?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man.

[Chris]

Just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He had Lauren's mom wet.

[Taylor]

She was there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Lauren's mom from Delaware. I mean, disrespectfully. I love her.

[Taylor]

I Know, like, what the hell?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I swear I was trying to think of another wor. Like, no, you're going to say what? You're going to say what? I was trying to think of something else to say, and my brain was literally like, no, no, no. But if you know Lauren's mom, you would understand why my brain was. You're going to say what? She's really, like, cool.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's how it even works.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, she's cool. If you know what I mean right there. She's cool. I can make these jokes with her. Like, when I saw her today, and I was like, yo, you saw Dr. J? And she was like, mm. I said, why you licking your lips? Why you licking your lips? She said, I saw that. Fine. You know what I'm saying? So that's why. But yes. Cause they. She from Delaware. What is that? Delaware? It's right past Philly. Close to Philly. It's like, come on, man. Dr. J probably done ran all through Delaware. Philly, Delaware.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, that's true. That's true. Yeah, y'. All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all see, y'.

[Andrew Schultz]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all gotta go back and Google, man. Dr. J was Alan Iverson before Alan.

[Andrew Schultz]

What a state in the union, they say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying, man? Come on. All right, let's pay some.

[Taylor]

What I would say. Well, while we're on the talk of Michael Jordan and all that. Did you see this salute to Jordan, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

What happened?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jordan is dominating in nascar and ain't nobody really talking about it. Joe, they worried about the wrong shit. Like, they worried cause he grabbed Tyler Reddick's neck. Like, yo, I'm the owner of the team. Yeah. I grab you around your neck and give you a kiss. Thank you. You just won us our fifth motherfucking NASCAR championship this year.

[Taylor]

You do that, too. My man does that to me. Men doing that to another man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's Michael Jordan. Do you hear how bricked up we got Talking about his sneakers? Michael Jordan can walk in here right now, grab us all around the neck, kiss us on the forehead.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He like, that's mj, yo. Rub us on our head like a little boy.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? I was watching that, and I'm like, yo, I think he could do that to me in front of my wife. I think I might be all right with it. I think I might be all right with it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't think.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'd probably be like, yo, we're not washing this hat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't think of too many people of any Race, gender, size, color, cream. That Michael Jordan couldn't do that. And ain't nobody gonna say. And y' all know y'. All.

[Andrew Schultz]

Come on, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Michael Jordan walk up on you, grab you by your neck, kiss you on your hat, give you a little shake and walk off.

[Andrew Schultz]

Big old hand, you know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You like, yo, that was mj, big old man.

[Andrew Schultz]

He grabbed that whole throat like nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get out of here.

[Alex]

Would you let Jordan take the ice out your shorts?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, of course.

[Alex]

The other one trying to take the ice out of the kid's show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That ain't what you talking about. You talking about that little boy that was in the kitchen. Remember? You've seen that video when he sticking the ice up his ass. And the mama walking. Mama, I'm hot. You ain't never seen that, Taylor, you never see the mama, I'm hot.

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what you're talking about.

[Taylor]

You guys ever saw that video?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, y' all find that video? Mama, I'm hot. Mama, I'm hot. You never seen that video, man. The little boy is in the kitchen, in the refrigerator. Yeah, this is an old Internet classic,

[Alex]

but this is the second time kind of recently Jordan just a little handsy, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You never seen this, man.

[Alex]

He's like that actor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look, look. What are you doing?

[Andrew Schultz]

Look.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go to your father's house. Go to your father's house.

[Taylor]

You didn't see the first part.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go to your father's house. What are you doing? Go to your father's house. Go to your father's house. I'm hot. Go to your father's house. Go to your father's house. Yo, this looks example of climate change.

[Andrew Schultz]

Look at this comment right here. So this is on a Jordan video. It says the driver in this clip is Denny Hamlin, who is the co owner of MJ's NASCAR team. Denny also drives full time for Joe Gibbs Racing. Denny was about to win this race before the caution came out, setting up overtime in which Denny choked the win away. And 23:11 driver Tyler Reddick snagged his fifth win of the year. Danny and MJ talk smack and did so before the race. Y' all are. Y' all are ready way you meant to put.

[Alex]

Really?

[Andrew Schultz]

You already waiting? So he lost and MJ's putting salt.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, she choked him, so he gave him the choke.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow, this motherfucker is diabolical. And then rubbed his head.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Michael Jeffrey Jordan, don't forget, okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

Never forget.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't ever forget who the fucking gold of all goats is, okay? That's Michael Jeffrey Jordan. Stop playing with him. Generational talent. Generational man. Michael never fumbled, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Never.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Never fumbled.

[Andrew Schultz]

Not even with baseball. Low key.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah. Cause you would wear that jersey right now if somebody came, if they put it, if they put the Jordan Barron's retro jersey up for sale, which it might be already everybody running to get that right, bro. Come on, man. We all of that was moments in time. He does what the he wants to do when he wants to do it, man. Shout out to mj.

[Alex]

He didn't need to do the wizard drone. He was good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He didn't.

[Andrew Schultz]

But we don't remember that I I low key as an adult, as like a 40 year old. I only like watching old people do now. I don't like watching kids do. I like watching like 42 year olds skateboarding. Like I watch Bam Margera skateboarding now. You know Bam from Jackass. And it is so enjoyable. I love.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gotta be 50 something now, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

I think Bam is like our age. Anyway. Point is 47, bro. He's 47.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm 47.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right, you a little older. But the point I'm trying to make is like I can't imagine what it must have been like as a 40 year old back then, seeing the goat come back and still drop 40 some games and still put up numbers. Like, yeah, maybe he didn't dominate the league, but like the fact that he's competing with these young guys and bullying him and like is still effective, I guess. Yeah, it's like he's euphoric as a fucking adult.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And also too, he act like he just came back, you know, to play with the wizards. Cause he was scratching an itch. He was part of one of the team. He was trying to instill a culture into the squad, you know what I mean? That's why I love when Jay Z said I'm Michael Jordan. I played for the team I own. Like that shit was different.

[Andrew Schultz]

He wanted to sell it to hey, but who cares?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You weren't ruining the narrative. Why you were ruining the narrative. I'm ruining the narrative. Let's pay some bills, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

Yes sir. Ski, I got some shows coming up man. I'll be in Tampa this weekend man. Thank you guys for selling out. I think Denver sold out, Salt Lake sold out. But we're going to do the Netflix is Joke Fest Me Jelly Roll and we just added a bunch of comics onto that so make sure you check that out. Might be a few tickets left for that. That's May 8th in Los Angeles. We just added Virginia beach as well. June, I think, fifth and sixth. So go check those shows out. And we're going to be announcing some more shows soon for this summer and into fall and then maybe another cool announcement that I don't know if I could say just now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This Saturday, salute to everybody I will see at the fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival in Atlanta, Georgia. Man, we will be there from 11am to 7pm at Pullman Yards. I love the Black Effect Podcast Festival. We say it's a family affair, but it really is, man. Drink Champs is gonna be on that stage. My guys, Nore, DJ efn, they will be in conversation with Cee Lo Green And I hope CeeLo brings the rest of Goody Mob since we in Atlanta. And K Michelle. K Michelle will be on Drink Champs live on that stage as well. Crystal Renee Hayslett with the Keep It Positive Sweetie podcast. She will be in conversation with Young Miami. So it's a caresha. Please keep it Positive Sweetie Mashup my guy, Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat. The Grits and Eggs podcast, they're gonna be there as well. Carlos King with Reality with the King is gonna be there. Jeff teague and the Club 520 podcast is gonna be there. And Mona, Big Mona, don't call me White Girl, she'll be there as well. So we'll see you bright and early. 11:00am to 7:00pm and listen, we always start with a bang. Like, you know, these podcasts are all heat. So we're starting the show 11 o' clock on the dot. Well, no, actually around 12. 12. Right, 12 o' clock with Gritson Eggs Podcast. So you gonna wanna be in the building. Okay, Gritson Eggs Podcast starting right at noon. My guy, Roger Karuf, he's got the NASCAR race car simulator out there for the kids to play around in. We got the pitch, your podcast booth, all the vendors, all the food trucks, everything you want. It's hosted by DJ Envy and Lauren LaRosa. And we'll see you this Saturday. There's still a few tickets left. You can go to blackffect.com podcast festival to get your tickets and we'll see you Saturday in ATL Shortage.

[Taylor]

Come find me too. I'm gonna be giving interviews and everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor gonna be out there doing something. What they got you doing, Taylor?

[Taylor]

I'm gonna be hosting the stream, so I'm gonna.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're gonna be out there on the stream. Hopefully. Taylor, don't get us in no trouble.

[Alex]

Are you live streaming the whole thing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Taylor]

I'm not gonna get y' all in trouble. I know what to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ain't you? I'm worried about it. There's other people in the crowd. What you gonna do if somebody drop a 90s gay slur for no reason?

[Taylor]

We're not gonna put it out then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's livestreamed.

[Taylor]

I didn't think about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are you talking about?

[Taylor]

Well, why you say that now? People wouldn't think about doing it.

[Andrew Schultz]

They might.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's just the game we in.

[Andrew Schultz]

You just never know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People are crazy. Our people are crazy.

[Taylor]

Yeah, please don't do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you on Breakfast Club. Stream or Brandon scream like we ain't never did a. But our people are crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

We can't energy folks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Andrew Schultz]

We can't go live every weekend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My show's live on Sundays.

[Alex]

Every weekend.

[Taylor]

Do not drop that little dick joke that they like to play with me because

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you're telling them all of that.

[Taylor]

I don't get a rude awakening.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tell me, what's the dick joke?

[Taylor]

Shut up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A bunch of them. It's all of them. Yo, what's up, yo? Damn, Taylor, you look like Lotto. Lotto who? Lotto dicking you. All of that. Type of like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

That.

[Taylor]

Play with me if you want.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you can't do that.

[Taylor]

No, I don't. I'm a fiance now with a mother and a mother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you're a fiance now and a mother. A fiance now and a mother.

[Taylor]

And you're forgetting something.

[Andrew Schultz]

What?

[Taylor]

Who's dropping on your book? Your privilege.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Jess. Hilarious. Just hilarious. Will be out Tuesday.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's go. Judge.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jess will be out Tuesday with Tell Death. Do we parent. Okay. Her book will be out this Tuesday everywhere you buy books. You can still pre order it right now via Black Privilege Publishing. Simon and Schuster, man. So, yeah, for all you people out there that are co parenting, okay, like, you know, you've moved on to other relationships, but you're still cool with your baby mother, still cool with your baby father. And y' all have figured out a way to properly co parent. That is the story she is telling. She's telling the story of co parenting with her baby daddy wrong. But, you know, now she's married to my.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can you bring up the Munchen clip, please?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She caught it. She caught it quick.

[Alex]

She smiled immediately.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What about this?

[Taylor]

I'm not sure what.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, what about the. Tuck her clip. You got to tuck her clip. You got the. Tuck her. You got the tuck her clip. What do we think of Tucker Carlson?

[Alex]

I just said Tucker. Like, if you just said it regularly.

[Taylor]

Huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think so?

[Alex]

Yeah, like you emphasized it too much

[Charlamagne Tha God]

and you gave it away. Practice. Let's practice. Cuz I don't know how that one would have worked.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't even know if that works.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. Yo, you know Tucker who. I don't even know where to go with it. Tuck her dick in your mouth.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's not working.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, no, you could be sucking a

[Andrew Schultz]

trans D. You could.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's. Yeah, that could work.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Tuck her dick in your.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, for real.

[Alex]

Hey, there you go. Progress.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, that's right. That's right. What do we think?

[Andrew Schultz]

What's Tucker up to?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tucker is saying that he is tormented by his past support for Trump and he apologized for misleading people on Trump. Let's play the clip. Play the clip.

[Guest]

Taylor, looking back, being cuz, I mean, you and I and everyone else who supported him, you wrote speeches for him. I campaigned for him. I mean, we're implicated in this for sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Guest]

It's not enough to say, well, I changed my mind, or like, oh, this is bad, I'm out. It's like, in very small ways, but in real ways, you and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Guest]

So I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences. We'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be. And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people was not intentional. That's all I'll say. But anyway. But the question does present itself immediately, like, what is this? Was this always the plan? You don't want to be a conspiracy nut, but clearly there were signs of low character.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We knew that. What are our thoughts?

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you think?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have a few thoughts. I don't have a problem with him doing that if that's how he feels. Like, truth is truth, right? If that's your honest feeling, say it. I see a lot of people questioning whether it's sincere or not. I don't think that matters. The reason I don't think that matters is because if I'm a Democratic operative, all I need is that clip. I got what I want for the midterms, and I got what I want for the election in 2028. Because he didn't say he's not MAGA. He said he's just not with Trump.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's saying Trump isn't doing the MAGA shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. And if, you know, Tucker is one of the people who definitely championed J.D. vance. Right. He definitely wanted Trump to put J.D. vance as his BP. Me personally, I don't want anybody that was anywhere close to this administration in office in the future. So what happens in the midterms, what happens in 2028 is, is Tucker going

[Andrew Schultz]

to actually same energy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is he gonna actually look for people who have real policies that wanna benefit all Americans and actually put money in all Americans pockets? Does he really want somebody that's actually pro democracy?

[Andrew Schultz]

It's an interesting question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or does he want somebody that's going that went along with this? Because come 2028, I'm just putting this clip up. If he endorses any of the opposition and saying, you really gonna listen to this guy?

[Andrew Schultz]

If he endorses the opposition?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If he a J.D. vance or Rubio.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're saying the opposition to the Democrats.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, if I'm a Democrat and he's endorsing any of the opposition. I'm saying you're gonna listen to him when he got it so wrong.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because again, think about, you make a great point, which is he's saying this administration is not doing anything that he thought they were gonna do. That he campaigned for them to do that. He endorsed that, he raised money, he gave speeches like he was on that ass constantly supporting it.

[Taylor]

It.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now they're not doing it. So that goes for the whole administration.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The whole administration.

[Andrew Schultz]

So if he then goes and endorses these other people that were complicit in all the fuck shit that's happening, then where does he actually lie?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Alex]

Unless J.D. vance doesn't pull a Kamala and say she's or he's for everything that the previous administration was about.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, even to that, I would say he distanced himself.

[Alex]

And Trump administration finishes badly. The way it's going.

[Chris]

Too late.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I think it's too late.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, even to that, I would say why don't you keep that same energy while you're next to him in an office? Yeah, I think that was one of the biggest issues people have with Kamala is it's like first of all, you say nothing about Gaza at all. You're in office while it's happening, you don't say anything. I mean, when you're campaigning, you don't even say anything about it. So it's like, it's hard to believe that you think anything's going to change when the people in power and the people that are funding it have said that. They're not going to make any statement that's going to be any different.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, if you're J.D. vance, none of that looks strong if Trump already gets put out the paper trash.

[Alex]

I feel like he does it in little bits currently now, like, even with Iran right now, he's like, lets it slip.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, publicly, he doesn't really do it. Privately, he's probably saying like, he's leaking. Oh, he's absolutely leaking. But to me, that's not enough.

[Alex]

That's enough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, J. J.D. j.D. Has to.

[Andrew Schultz]

You think that's enough?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't think so. J.D. has to sound like Tucker, bro. J.D. you got to sound like Megan Kelly. You gotta. You gotta be so opposed to everything that's going on in the administration. You can't stand by him and leak, bro. You can't do that. No, you can't do the double speak right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

The leaking is pussy, man. Like, I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look, I mean, I think leaking is pussy. It's discharged.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's discharged. Yo, come on, man, you're not from Delaware, bro. I'm just saying it is. It is though, right? Like, think about it, because it is. You're basically trying to like, keep up with the Joneses, maintain the audience that still supports it it while refuting it when the ballsy thing to do is like, outright objective. And I think people would probably respect that because clearly the base is not happy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. And the only other I don't have, I think that if Tucker feels this way or anybody feels this way, they should be. They should be. They should say that. But the only other problem I have

[Andrew Schultz]

with this clip, why has nobody stepped down? That's what's weird.

[Alex]

I mean, people have like, who?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who? What do you mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

Joe Kent is the only one that stepped down. But he's not part of the Trump administration. Right. He had his job previous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, you know what they're saying now?

[Alex]

Trump put him in there.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't think Trump appoints.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you see the op ed in the Hill? The op ed in the Hill that says if Donald Trump wants to even remotely try to save his legacy, he should resign and say it's for health reasons. It was an op Ed that came out this week. I forgot. Who wrote that? Chris, did you see who wrote it? Yeah, it was op Ed that came out and said if he wants to even remotely try to preserve his legacy, stepping down, he should step down and say it's for health reasons. But the only other problem I have with this Tucker caused the clip is he said that it wasn't intentional. Tucker was too close to Trump for years. I mean, I'm going back to when he was on Fox News. He was too close to Trump. So that it was not intentional.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're implying here that Tucker knew that Trump wasn't gonna do any of the shit that he said he was gonna do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm saying that Tucker knew enough about Trump's bullshit. He in those leaks that came out for that on the voting machine shit. No, not the voting machine shit. When Fox got sued, there's literally Tucker Carlson saying, I hate this guy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. So you're saying he knew enough to not trust him, but chose to trust.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. He said even in this clip because we knew there was signs of low character.

[Chris]

Tucker Carlson, who's hitting up Hunter Biden behind the scenes.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, hitting up Joe, asking for, hey,

[Chris]

I need to get my kid into Georgetown.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you write me?

[Andrew Schultz]

Reckon. Can you write me a letter? Yeah.

[Chris]

It's all performative with this guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, he literally said. Let me get the exact quote. He literally said, I hate Trump.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right. So if you're a Democratic strategist right now. Right. And you see this. Are you. What is the. What is the move right here? Is it.

[Chris]

Well, it's a difficult. It's a good question. Right. What's the move with Marjorie Taylor Greene? What's the move with.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't have to make them a hero by any means. I don't have to pivot. But you could be like, oh, wow, the walls are closing in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

How do we capitalize on the walls closing in? That's the smart story.

[Chris]

It's tough, though, because you take a guy like Tucker. Yes. He's saying that he regrets what he did. He's also really promoting a very heavy white nationalist agenda right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't bring in somebody who you're not aligned with. Right. 100%. But you do use it as an emphasis that even the people within the party. Because that is a kind of. Yeah, that is a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That these quotes aren't for opposition. These quotes are for the party, the base, the other Republicans, the other maga. Like, look, even guys like Tucker Carlson who championed him, who probably was influenced by the even support, are jumping ship. That's what that's for. Listen, two years ago, when I say something like, I regret voting for Biden. Right. Why did I say I regret voting for Biden? Because. Because I saw where things were going. I was seeing the public sentiment of the people. I saw how he fucked up the border. I saw how the economy was trash and how People were feeling about it. And if Donald Trump was going to be, which we see, he is the threat to democracy that everybody was saying he was gonna be, this guy can't beat him. You know what I'm saying? This guy cannot beat him. So when I express that, what did the right do? Amplified it. Amplified it. They didn't amplify that for their people.

[Andrew Schultz]

They amplified it for the opposite.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you think that's what Democrats should do right now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Easy, easy. Call. And once again, I want to Read Tucker Carlson 2021 Private Text following the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot, text messages released during the Dominion voting systems lawsuit against Fox News revealed that Carlson told a producer, I hate him, Trump passionately, and I can't handle much more of this. So he can't say it wasn't intentional. If I say, I don't fuck with you, I hate you, but then I purposely drive people towards you and stand by you, it's intentional. That's an intentional choice.

[Alex]

But the thing is, he gets caught so many times being fake back at Fox News when you saw the text messages, and now he's jumping ship. He's a grifter, but for some reason, he still keeps the trust of his

[Charlamagne Tha God]

base because the news cycle is so fragmented. I keep telling you this for every. Every time you. I can pull up clips of him probably contradicting himself all the time, but then I can also pull up clips like this.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

I think it's about, again, I don't know. I don't know. But, like, to me, I think it's about, like, when you're getting what you want from someone, you don't really question the other things that are happening. Happening, Right? So it's like, if. If, for example, you're a Persian American, you want to see the liberation of your family in Iran, you probably hate a bunch of things that Trump is doing, but in this specific thing, you're going, well, I'd really like my grandma and grandpa to be able to, like, live free. That'd be awesome. So all of a sudden, you're supportive of this thing, despite hating a bunch of other stuff that's going on. And I'm sure that's where, like, a lot of Democrats said, like, we're supportive of Kamala. I'm sure they were like, it's really horrible what's happening in Gaza, but there are these other things that I would really like to see not happen. So they were able to kind of like, you know, Put more priority or put more of their emphasis on certain things. And that's the difficult thing about voting for somebody.

[Alex]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

You inevitably are supporting something. Like I imagine when you voted for Kamala, you weren't voting for Gaza to be destroyed. You loved it so much, but you did vote for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean? Yeah. Because you didn't want America.

[Andrew Schultz]

You prioritized other things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. You didn't want. You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

Like that's the administration in power, that's the administration paying for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But we also didn't want American democracy to fail.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you prioritize that over it 100%. Of course, I don't think you want any of that thing. But this is the, the, this is the dynamic when there's two options you inevitably are going to have to support some shit that you vehemently hate and disagree with.

[Alex]

So now that he's turning on Trump, you think it's because he's on the outs from the Trump circle.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think he is a very my, again, I don't know Tucker or anything, but my assumption is he a very specific worldview and he, he doesn't like Jewish influence, he doesn't like the American Israeli alliance. And I think that Trump is not strong enough on Israel. And I think that's really the source of frustration. I don't think it's anything besides that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't think so? I think it's, I think it's, I think. Go, go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's another psyop. And I'm gonna tell you what I mean by this. And I said this months ago, but you know, I'm retarded, so nobody really listens to me until later. Conservative voices for the last couple of years have been the strongest voices. We can say that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right. You mean in media? In media or the loudest voices in media?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Loudest voices in media the last couple of years.

[Andrew Schultz]

What I would say is that I think the conservative. Sorry, I would say conservative voices occupied the Internet space first and therefore grew audiences online where the majority of people are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I think now you see like, like liberal voices. Like the Midas Touch podcast is like a huge podcast. And like you see a lot of these other liberal voices that have now taken hold online. But I think it was, they were just a little bit later the game. And I think the conservative voices were early to the online. I mean like Alex Jones is like wild boy, but he was online a decade ago.

[Chris]

Well, Midas is also working because you could argue they're copying Kind of the conservative blueprint.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but very hard.

[Chris]

They big headlines. There's not a ton of nuance and it's the same like constant cadence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But listen, this is the point. Conservative voices were the biggest voices. You have the people like the Midas Touches who cut through people like Midas Touch. They've been saying all of this about Donald Trump, Right. A lot of liberal voices have been saying all of this about Donald Trump. Right now is their moment where they could be like, we told you so, we were right. But not if a conservative like the Tucker Carlsons, Megyn Kellys, the Alex Jones, the Candace Owens, the people who already had the big voices, when they come out and be like, no, Donald Trump fucked up. Donald Trump is, you know, he's causing all of this chaos. He's causing all this commotion. Now that becomes the bigger story because Dave weren't opposition. They were the ones who were actually pushing him and supporting him. So therefore they still remain the biggest voices. And they also look more honest than everybody else. Why? Because liberal media still ain't talking about Israel the way that these guys are. Liberal media is not talking about Israel the way these guys are. Now I'm talking about mainstream liberal media. Now. I'm not talking about like Mehdi Hasan and people who have independent platforms. I'm talking.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, you're talking about mainstream media.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So they, they still.

[Andrew Schultz]

Mainstream conservative media isn't even talking about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mainstream conservative media is not even. So they still look like they're ahead of the curve. So what happens come midterms? They still got a lot of influence. What happens come 2028? They still got a lot of influence because a lot of people are thinking, well, those guys told us the truth. Those guys told us the truth when it mattered. Yo, there's not a liberal politician. And it's going to sound crazy, but I want you to think about what I'm saying. Who shouldn't be having those talking points on certain issues, like the Tucker Carlson's, the Megyn Kellys of the world have right now.

[Chris]

Especially which talking points?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Israel in the war with Iran.

[Chris]

And saying what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Saying that. The things that they're saying, how they feel like America's in this war, America's in this war because of Israel. Right.

[Chris]

But the problem is Tucker's a little bit of a Trojan horse on that topic.

[Alex]

I mean, what do you mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

What you mean?

[Chris]

He's framing it as like, I'm just like really confused about what's going on. And it seems like these people have an outsized influence.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like you know, I don't think he's being.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris, people want to hear.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think he's being very direct.

[Chris]

But when you have that white nationalist agenda behind it, that's where you blur the line between very legitimate criticism of Israel and some more dangerous anti semitic stuff is what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not against you, but I'm telling

[Chris]

you so if he didn't have that white nationalist agenda, because I watch him and I'm like, why the fuck am I agreeing with this guy? Why am I nodding with this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Here's the. Tell me why you're agreeing with him. Because you.

[Chris]

Because I think he's asking questions that to your point, I think more people should be asking. I don't like him leading on.

[Andrew Schultz]

But can we just acknowledge this? Like a guy in the KKK and a guy in the Black Panthers can both agree that ice cream is good. Just because you're in opposition parties doesn't mean that there are things that you see that you potentially agree on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And when you don't hear nobody else

[Chris]

saying it, unless it's to sell poisoned ice cream as well.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no. Again, the intention. Chris, you missing the point again. The intention behind it for that person might be different. Different, but the intention behind the consumer is resonant. Right, Right. So it's like you feel a little bit. You feel uncomfort. You feel discomfort and uncertainty about America's role in this war and the reason why we're in there and what we'll essentially get out of it. American lives being lost in an economy being affected, the global economy being affected. And all of a sudden people are explaining those sentiments to you, even people that you vehemently disagree with on 99% of issues. But all of a sudden those things resonate. That's not shocking to me. Matter of fact, I don't think that we should completely disregard everything someone says because maybe they're an opposition party. It'd be a really cool thing that we could look at and go, okay, I agree on that point. What you're saying I think is very valuable. Which is what is the intention behind that point right now I don't think

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the people care about the intention, they

[Guest]

just want to hear it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, I care. Chris, Chris, I think you make a good point, which is like we should actually care because what is the, what is the later goal of that messaging? You might agree on face value with a piece of messaging and not understand the downstream effects of it for sure. But what I think Charlotte's saying is this is resonating with people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And that's something that I think people need, especially media.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But to your point and Chris's point, I think the intention behind it is what I said. Y' all might have just said it a little more eloquent is that his intention is to keep a stranglehold on the influence that he has on people. So he's doing that by saying what he thinks people want to hear. Like in this article right here. Tucker Carlson has long criticized the Trump administration's military actions and has accused Trump of abandoning the America first premise he ran on. That's what people want. In June last year, prior to the US Joining Israel and launching strikes on three key Iranian nuclear sites, Carlson urged Trump against actively entering the conflict. The disagreement resulted in Trump publicly berating Carlson by referring to him as kooky. That's what people want.

[Chris]

I agree with that. But then when you also have a very cordial conversation with the Nick Fuentes, on the other hand, I gotta question where this, the anti Israel conversation is ultimately going.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris, I'm with you. But once again, news is fragmented. What if I never heard Tucker talk about the Israel stuff? What if I never heard Tucker talk about. You know,

[Chris]

I think we're talking about two different things, right? One is what's a smart media strategy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For who?

[Chris]

For Tucker? Undoubtedly he's following a smart media strategy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say everything. Say everything that everybody wants to hear.

[Chris]

I'm just questioning his agenda.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you see different things? Did you see the video of Tucker Carlson talking to the black Israelite? No. It's like two videos of Tucker Carlson in the street, street talking to black Israelites. And you wonder where he's getting this rhetoric from. You wonder where it's getting. Look it up. Look up Tucker Carlson talking to black Israelites. You wonder where he's getting this record from?

[Andrew Schultz]

Did they dap him up like. Nah, he's good. Like this. This guy is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just saw. Cliff, if you're a so called white man, if your line goes back to the Edomites, do you know anything about Edom or Esau?

[Andrew Schultz]

He.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what do you know about Edom of Esau? Well, Esau. Brother Esau. Jacob's brother. Jacob's brother, yeah. Okay. Who are the descendants? Who are the descendants of Jacob? I think the Jews and then the Arabs was descendants of. Are you talking about the white Jews?

[Chris]

There you go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what I'm talking about. Okay. Where the descendants of Jesus.

[Chris]

What is black Israelites position on American Jews? I don't even know, boy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shut up. You don't even. I'm not even. What?

[Chris]

I've always liked the black Israelites.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ignorance was this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like these guys, man. What kind of question was that? Was that a setup? What the.

[Alex]

They make. They make Fuentes look liberal, but I've never seen him. Just to Chris's point, is this a smart move for him? Because if Trump still has the power now, he's out of the circle and now he's not going to have the access that he wants.

[Andrew Schultz]

The power is the influence, not the office. And his base, I imagine, shares these sentiments. And in order to maintain that, and I'm not saying that he doesn't actually feel this way. I think that right now we're sitting here and assuming that he doesn't feel this way, like he might actually feel this way and he's upset. The things that Trump are doing, that's a possibility. So what you said earlier is he should have known better. Right. Which is fair.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I also think that his base wants to this. And if he just backs Trump, no matter what, his base will be like, ah, you sold out, too. That's what I assume.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. You dick. Suck a Tucker. But also, no. You're going to see more of this. Damn. I had a point, but I forgot it, too. You're going to see more.

[Chris]

Who's the next to jump?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, they're all jumping. I mean, they just haven't. I don't. I didn't see nobody apologize like Tucker apologizing that way, but they're all jumping. Oh, that's the thing I wanted to say. It's not going to hurt him being outside of Trump circle because Trump cares about proximity to power.

[Chris]

He'll negotiate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. As long as Tucker got his audience and Tucker got millions of people watching him, Trump would absolutely, positively be standing next to Trump again. Rogan. He just signed an executive order for

[Andrew Schultz]

Rogan last week after Rogan was shitting all over the world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly.

[Alex]

Okay, I hear what you're saying, but I mean, Trump still has.

[Andrew Schultz]

Trump's like Vince McMahon, like, you could beef with him. He's gonna bring you in a lot

[Alex]

of independent people that no matter what Trump is right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's not one platform. Trump has Fox, cbs, about to be cnn. That's more powerful than what's going on online. I don't care.

[Alex]

Jewish guy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ben Shapiro.

[Alex]

Ben Shapiro. He still has a lot of voices that are still Team Trump that are powerful voices.

[Andrew Schultz]

They kind of. I think he is. There are voices that have vested interests in.

[Alex]

In this war and like, doesn't it now fracture the party? So now commit.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the conversation.

[Alex]

Trump going for somebody and then you'll have.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the conversation. You know, I mean, like the, the benefit, I think the best. The fear, obviously, with the Democrats. Right. Like, what I imagine. Why I imagine, like, after Bernie, I think this is what, in like 20. What is this? 2020 or 2024, when, like, Bernie won Iowa and then like everybody. Democratic candidate dropped out, so it was 2020, Bernie wins Iowa, then every Democratic candidate running, like, all of a sudden drops out, except Elizabeth Warren, and Elizabeth Warren stays into the end. And it's like, I imagine there's a conversation that happens where they're like, hey, Elizabeth, you can divide the progressive vote between you and Bernie so Bernie won't take away from Biden and we'll get everybody else. That's like just a center left candidate to be out of here so Biden can get all the, those votes. And it's a strategic position because having a divided party, you will fail, you will lose. Like, what did Ross Perot do? Right.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You could argue Clinton wins because Ross is in there getting what, 10, 20% of the votes?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I thought it was more than that.

[Alex]

I'm talking about Tucker's base. Because wouldn't it be more advantageous to him to just like, try to mold his base to be like, okay, we can point out the bad things Trump is doing, but we're still Team Trump to keep us together.

[Andrew Schultz]

You assume that he leads the base.

[Taylor]

Base.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think what Chris and Charlemagne are positing is that the base leads him.

[Chris]

He's putting his finger up and that's it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Their suggestion.

[Alex]

That's what he tells him how to.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, their suggestion is that the base or that the algorithm or what is trending is pushing his ideals. And again, I don't know, but if he was the person that was curating the minds of these people, then he could say whatever he want. But it seems like there's an energy that exists online that is palpable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And that energy needs to be served. And the people that are serving that energy are going to be incredibly influential and successful because you're essentially organizing ideas for people's feelings, and that's what the media really does in a lot of ways. It's like, hey, we feel this stuff. We're angry, we feel this existential angst. Someone explain to me why we feel it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, the worst thing that he did was try to attack all of them in one tweet. Alex Jones, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson. No, my boy, that's Iran. You ain't just getting rid of them like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I mean, like Thanos. Thanos tried to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

It didn't work out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Andrew Schultz]

All right, let's do some asking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nathan. I want to shout out to Netflix Man Salute to everybody who's been watching the Breakfast Club podcast on Netflix. A couple of weeks ago Netflix had released I guess like the podcast charts the way they do the TV and the festival.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, I saw that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Breakfast Club is the number one watched podcast. Not only are we the number one watch podcast on Netflix, we make up 44% of all podcast viewing. Wow. On Netflix. 40.

[Taylor]

Beep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

44%.

[Andrew Schultz]

Back up the truck. Back up the truck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, salute to Netflix, man. 44% of all podcasts viewing on Netflix. Got a lot of cool stuff coming with Netflix, man. Just stay tuned. Stay tuned for the next move. This next move is gonna be really, really, really, really dope, man. So salute to everybody who's watching Breakfast Club on Netflix. Let's do some asking, idiots. Taylor gang. Taylor gang, Gang.

[Taylor]

Y' all didn't wait.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, let's go to ask an idiot. Cause we gotta. We got home. We got children at home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Including you mother, Kayla.

[Taylor]

I like being a part of the group.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that's good, man. It's good to see women who want to have kids nowadays.

[Taylor]

Yeah, no one wants to have them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They say that after they done.

[Taylor]

So. Wait, wait, no. That's what I was gonna get. What do y' all think about Seth Rogen saying, like, how he's happy he never had children and thinks he got further in life because he didn't ask it? He's married too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't mad at Seth. That's a good question. Yeah, I'm not mad at Seth for saying that. That's what he chose.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I'm not mad at that.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's a tricky position for us to be in because. Because once you have kids, you can't imagine without them, life without them. So the knee jerk is to be like, man, that guy's crazy. But he's also never had kids, so he doesn't know what it's like. And other people's kids ain't your kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly.

[Andrew Schultz]

I can understand when you're just around other people's kids, how you're like, I don't want these. Yeah, it's like, kids are like. Other people's kids are like. Like a motorcycle.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, you don't even hear Taylor refer to her dog no more. Remember before, her dog was her child. Her dog was her child. She don't even talk about that little punk ass dog. I think she. I literally showed you. I ain't going front.

[Taylor]

I literally showed you a picture of my family with, hey, I ain't see

[Charlamagne Tha God]

that little dog in a minute. Okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

I'll be honest with you, all right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't parts to be honest.

[DJ Envy]

I don't even.

[Taylor]

Crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't trust you. If you have kids and you really into your dog, if you still calling

[Charlamagne Tha God]

your dog your kid after you have kids?

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, sometimes. Because it's like you don't have more time. Like once you have. Once you have kids, there's no more time. You're not gonna ignore your kids to play fetch with your dog. Out of your fucking mind. Throw a ball with your kids when

[Chris]

they're older too, okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

When they're older, they don't want nothing to do with you. Then you play with the dog.

[Chris]

They play with the dog or they

[Andrew Schultz]

play with the dog. For sure.

[Taylor]

My son and my dog are best

[Charlamagne Tha God]

friends, but definitely ain't your child. You don't refer to that dog as your child no more. You know the difference? You don't wish. You wish Little Pee outside to pee. You don't bring the outside to pee. You wish you could just take all little pee's clothes off and just send them outside. Go outside, man. Go pee real quick.

[Andrew Schultz]

When was the last time she brought the dog here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, she don't care. That dog's gone.

[Taylor]

I think the dog, he's gone.

[Andrew Schultz]

Proof of life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That dog gone. Proof of life.

[Taylor]

Okay, I'll show you a picture right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You took that dog. Springfield, Ohio, or goddamn, that dog is gone. That dog is gone, Taylor. Okay?

[Taylor]

Look at him, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You sold that dog for parts. I don't care what you say.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ah, man.

[Alex]

AI,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you thought like, that's my child. That's my child. You don't say that no more.

[Taylor]

I still had to take care of him. What do you mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But once again, you ain't say, that's your child.

[Andrew Schultz]

She also said have to.

[Taylor]

I have to take care of myself too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. Five minutes ago, no, you was like, I feel so good. I can't wait to get home. You want you have to take care of that little punk ass dog?

[Taylor]

First of all, he got no punk. Leave my dog alone.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, why can't we be honest?

[Taylor]

What about, where's your dog at?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't even know what gender my dog is, to be honest with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Check this out, check this out, check this out. Taylor, what would you do if your dog bit your son?

[Taylor]

Whoa, man, we never stop washing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Question. What would you do if your dog bit yourself?

[Taylor]

I'll beat his ass. I have a Frenchie, though. It's not like I have like a rock waller.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. What would you do if your son bit your dog?

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait, it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What would you do if your son bit your dog?

[Taylor]

I would tap his hand too. Like, no, you don't bite him. Yeah, but I've done this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see the difference? I would tap his hand. I Would beat the dog ass, though. Okay, I'll that motherfucker.

[Taylor]

I would not. I would not do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You did. That's what you just said. Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Call up to come barbecue

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bleeping all the music Bleeping the name why, why, why, why, why?

[Andrew Schultz]

Too crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Too crazy. Now it's crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right, my bad. He got an album coming out, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay? Asking idiots. What summer plan are you most excited about this 2026 summer, Charlotte? I mean, every. All my summer plans are revolving around. I mean, of course, regular family vacation, but, like, my oldest daughter is going to college. So that's what we've been knee deep in. You know, the visits, you know, freshman orientations, all of that shit like that. I'm trying to. I'm just trying to, you know, hold it together, man. This shit is sad. Being a human is the most complex thing in the world. I wish that people would stop acting like everything is so black and white on social media. Like, we take complex issues, bring them to social media and just flatten them and make it either this or that. No, like, I don't care what the situation is. There's a whole bunch of complex emotions. So on one hand, I am happy that I have raised this amazing human who's doing something I never did. My wife went to college, but I never went to college. She's going off to school. She's going to an amazing school. She had a lot of options of what school she could get into. You know, she made her own decision. Cause if it was up to me, she'd be somewhere else. But I do like this school a lot as well. But she came to that conclusion. I never even heard of this place until she found it, because. Cause of the field that she wants to get in. And on the other hand, I'm like, extremely, extremely sad because I'm like, did I get to spend as much time, say it with my baby over these last 17 years? Cause I know this is it. Like, this is adulthood.

[Andrew Schultz]

You probably, at this point in your life, spent 95% of the time you're gonna spend with your daughter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're right. And I mean, there's actually a study about that. I can't remember what the number was, but there's a study that show you spend most of your time with your

[Andrew Schultz]

child between the ages of 12 or something like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I think. I think it's like 17, 18.

[Chris]

It's gonna be tough, but it's gonna be all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, bro, I'm already feeling it. I ain't even gonna Front.

[Taylor]

At least you got three others at home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but it's just different.

[Chris]

It's also the first.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's your girl. That's your baby girl. You did everything for her. You grinded, you sacrificed.

[Chris]

But think how special the visits are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what you have to talk about.

[Taylor]

He doesn't cry.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you know what? She don't know all the things you did just to give her a life you never had, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, we. She. Do. We talk.

[Andrew Schultz]

She doesn't know. And it's great she doesn't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, but there's nothing she can't ask me. You know what I'm saying? I don't have. No, I don't feel like we do ourselves any favors keeping secrets from our kids, you know what I'm saying? That's why I'm glad I've written the books I've written. And I mean, God damn, please ask me questions about this shit we've been saying for the past.

[Chris]

And also think about the alternative. Suppose you had a kid who wasn't ready, who didn't want to go. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Who didn't feel like they could fly. That would hurt worse.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That would hurt worse. I might want that, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I don't know if it would hurt worse, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Only because I'm. I don't have to deal with what I'm dealing with now. Like, yeah, stay home.

[Chris]

You don't want that, though. You don't want that, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't want that. No, we don't.

[Andrew Schultz]

I stayed home until I was in my 30s for the right reasons. I mean, it worked out, but, like, a lot of people would be like, what's going on?

[Chris]

Yeah, you were staying home. And I'm sure you were hustling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was always a hustler. I was always getting after a kid

[Chris]

who's staying home and just kind of in their room and not doing stuff and without direction.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's sad.

[Chris]

That's sad. So you want somebody who's on the trajectory, you know?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I mean, like. Yeah, kind of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think about that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I had an apartment basically next to theirs. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I think about that, right? Chris and Schultz. Hustle culture, Right. That's what America is. But what if we live somewhere where we didn't have to do any of that? What if we lived on an island somewhere where we didn't do nothing? But, you know, we go fish, we pick up a little odd job, maybe open up a little beach shack or something and you just cool out? Like, what's it's pressure to be something in America. It's not pressure to be something in other places. And by the way, when I say be something, sometimes just living is enough. Like, that wouldn't bother me either.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but I think you're at a point of success where, like, you've achieved all your wildest dreams, so it's easy for you to be like, what if we just go fish?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Word.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's nothing that can happen in my life right now that's gonna change my lifestyle. We had Ronda Rousey on Breakfast Club, man. And she said some ill shit. She was like, this is gonna be my last fight with Netflix. And she was like, you know, this isn't even about money. I was like, yo, what if they, you know, they came back and bought you this bag? She was like, there's no amount of money they can give me that that's gonna change my lifestyle. And I think that's a good place to be. Cause now you're not chasing anything.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now you're doing things because you want to, not cause you have to. Like taking care of your dog, Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fuck about that dog. But, yeah, summer plans. All my summer plans revolve around my first born going to college. What about you?

[Andrew Schultz]

I look forward to. I got a little project that I'm gonna have to do this summer in la, I think. And then outside of that, I look forward to just, like, hanging out with the family out east. And like. Like, what if this summer my daughter, like, learns how to swim?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? Like, I'm looking for, like, crazy milestones also now that my daughter's a little bit older. Just kind of, like keeping her on my hip when I just do throughout the day. Like, I got errands to go do. Like, yo, just roll with me. Let's do it. She's walking, now she's moving. It's not as crazy as she's 2. Yeah. So, like, enjoy it, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She'll be 17 tomorrow.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the thing. And so, yeah, so there's. And then also, like, my son is getting a little bit older, where he's starting to kind of, like, recognize things, you know? So, you know, he's about to probably get into that age where he's making him laugh a little bit. Yeah. Kind of communicating in his own way. So I look forward to kind of soaking up that time. That what I'm excited about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm going to be out of east this summer. Really? Yeah. I'm coming out there in July.

[Andrew Schultz]

For the whole month?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not the whole month. Like, probably a week. Some friends invited us out there.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where?

[Andrew Schultz]

Where?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I don't know. I. I can tell you after we get off air, but I don't know. I mean, I don't know the location.

[Andrew Schultz]

This makes me so happy. Yeah, I'm so happy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What else we got T? Give us a couple more asking what's around.

[Taylor]

What do you mean, East? What? Alex, relax.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you mean east, though, yo? Low key. The Hamptons. The Hamptons. Oh, I mean, we should just rip a F out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that'd be fire, right? That'd be fire. Live from the Hamptons. Have a few drinks, yo. You know what I'm saying, Sam? Silv, if you could pass down one technique, not trait to your kids, what would it be? Technique. Technique for what? What, though? That's a broad question, Sam. So what do you mean by technique?

[Andrew Schultz]

I hope my son can hit it from his back the way I do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you got a good mean back game.

[Andrew Schultz]

I gotta mean. I gotta mean, not hit it from the back. From your back. Like, I gotta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, from your back. Oh, gotcha.

[Andrew Schultz]

Lay down. I hope he can do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but that's. Those are. Those are those. Those are post moves you learn in your later life. That's. That's Jordan. Like, you know, his last couple of years.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but what if he knows it young enough where he could just blow minds?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, you could. You could learn. You could learn Jordan's late post games or how the way Bron plays now. You could learn that early.

[Taylor]

Is that really a dad's dream?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Taylor]

Like, for y' all sons to get, like, girls and everything like that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, that's y' all dream, yo, you

[Andrew Schultz]

know whose dream it really is? And you're gonna find this out, too. Moms. Moms will talk all this shit about how, like, men ain't shit and guys cheat and guys do all this theirs, and the second they get a son, all they do is talk about, like, oh, he's going to be a lady killer. He's such a flirt. My son is three months old. All he does is throw up. And my wife is like, yo, he's a flirt. Like, this dude stays hitting flirt. Girls I'm not with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's he talking to?

[Andrew Schultz]

You just want him to be the dudes you hated. Women always do this shit. You want. Do you want little man to be able to get laid or not?

[Taylor]

I want him to be very smart. I was telling. I was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you want him smart People get late.

[Taylor]

I want him. I'm not worried about if he has sex or not. Like I just want him to be.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you want him to be getting none or do you want him to be able to crack?

[Taylor]

We want to have this conversation. I don't want him talking about, you

[Andrew Schultz]

know, he's cracking something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's nine months.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but when he's. When he's 18, you don't think that he's going to be causing.

[Taylor]

That's a conversation with his dad. I don't want to have a conversation. Cuz one thing, he's not going to be cracking nothing in my head. House, you better go somewhere else. I promise you he's not. I promise you. I'm embarrassed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, not when she there.

[Taylor]

Promise you I'm embarrass the out of

[Charlamagne Tha God]

him if I want. Why would you do that?

[Taylor]

No, absolutely not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I seen a mother embarrass a young lady one time. That was so crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, what happened?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She walked in and she said, who is this nasty ass hoe having sex in my living room cuz? He had the pull out couch in the middle of the living room. So he was in the pullout couch and like it was. It's a. It's a trailer. So you're in the pull out couch but we in another room like playing video games or something. The mom walks in like, oh shit. You didn't hear her walk in. And we just waited for the show. Who's this nasty ass bitch? Slut ass ho. Having sex in my motherfucking living room. Nasty ass bitch. Your mama ain't teach you shit. And you ain't shit either talking to her son. You ain't shit either in my house like this. Who's that nasty ass hoe? Nasty ass hoe. Girl didn't want to get out from under them covers. When she finally got out from under them cover boy to talking to. But it changed. It went from nasty ass slut, nasty bitch, nasty hoe, whatever, whatever. When she got off from under them covers, that's when the real conversation happened. You a lady, you ain't supposed to be moving like this. You having sex in my motherfucking house. Blah blah blah, this and that. But I was like, God damn. Could you at least let your son finish?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, you gotta let him finish.

[Taylor]

And you shouldn't have been fucking in my house in the first place.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was not me. I would never do.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're going to yell at your son with.

[Taylor]

I'll be pissed off. Yeah, get the fuck out. Who's this girl? Yes. No sleepovers. No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You say that now.

[Andrew Schultz]

You gonna be stapping him up.

[Taylor]

Okay? And if he. If he does let him, it's because it's his father, not me. Like, no, now I'm happy. Where was his father?

[Andrew Schultz]

That house, like all just like happy and Ginger.

[Taylor]

The only one that's fucking in the house should be me. It shouldn't be no one else.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What about your husband?

[Taylor]

Well, duh, us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You didn't say that. You said me. So selfish. That was some selfish shit. The only person be fucking in the house is me.

[Chris]

You know, it might not be.

[Andrew Schultz]

Girl, you never had sex in your house.

[Taylor]

Stop, Chris, stop.

[Andrew Schultz]

You never had sex in your house?

[Taylor]

Still, even with.

[Andrew Schultz]

Did you ever have sex in your house growing up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Her parents house.

[Andrew Schultz]

In your parents house growing up?

[Taylor]

There you go. I have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. There you go.

[Taylor]

Doesn't mean that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what you think he going to do? Oh, he's going to be. He going to be in there making pies in your house. That way he get it from his grandma. I'm cooking cakes, Ma. That's what I'm doing. Like, grandma. You don't think.

[Taylor]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Chris]

You don't think it'd be better if it was God himself?

[Taylor]

I'm not having this camera, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What if you. Chris is crazy.

[Taylor]

Chris is out of control.

[Chris]

You guys are assuming he might be into dudes. So what I'm saying is.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right, man, who said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who said that? God damn.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, Chris is on drugs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anything about God? The whole time we were specific about girls, you literally started the convo saying you wanted him to be a lady.

[Taylor]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris just wanted to be gay. Usually it's everybody's kids might be gay.

[Chris]

I'm. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris, what is going on?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, Chris, Chris, Chris. Why are you trying to put gay

[Charlamagne Tha God]

on his son that had no.

[Chris]

What was the problem?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, there's no problem, but you just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the problem? No, but you put if there's no

[Chris]

problem, what's the problem?

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm saying why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why you putting gay on.

[Chris]

If there's no problem, what's the problem?

[Andrew Schultz]

Now there's no problem, but why you

[Charlamagne Tha God]

putting gay on Chris, Let me ask you a question. Would you let Pinocchio put his nose in your butt and would you lie?

[Alex]

He would act a lot.

[Chris]

Why? I don't understand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who tells the L.

[Andrew Schultz]

You thought other people lying made his nose grow?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pinocchio. Oh, shit. That's what it was? Yes. That's what you write. You right. You right. But You. Okay. Okay. Would you let Pinocchio put his nose in your butt and tell Pinocchio to lie on purpose? On purpose? Yes.

[Chris]

Would I. No, I would not do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Have you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Have you ever wondered about that? Even with your kids? Like, sexuality and stuff?

[Chris]

Yeah, my kids are straight.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is that a. Is there something wrong with that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, bro. What is straight in 2026? Not much.

[Andrew Schultz]

I wanna ride it all night long.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A lot of interstates you can get off on this highway.

[Andrew Schultz]

Facts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In 2026, you say your child is straight. Just because the road is straight don't mean it's not a lot of intersections.

[Chris]

My daughter's entire crew is gay. Almost to a person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Who?

[Chris]

My daughter, like, all. All her friends, are lesbians.

[Andrew Schultz]

How do you know?

[Chris]

Because they talk about it.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do they say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They.

[Andrew Schultz]

They. In detail.

[Chris]

They say, that girl's cute. I'm dating this girl,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

and I saw a stud with a fat ass today, and I just.

[Chris]

No studs. Lipstick, lesbians.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I saw a stud with a fat ass today, and I just. I sat there and wondered, God, why did you give this stud such a fat ass, bro? I tech du both. Fix your eyes.

[Andrew Schultz]

I literally listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I text Duval. No, I said, duval, hold on. I said. I said, why you think God gave studs fat asses? Duval. Studs never really wanted to be studs. Life just happened. Listen, as always, Duval's really Dumbledore, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's Dumbledore, man.

[Taylor]

Can y' all just say happy birthday to Prezy, too?

[Andrew Schultz]

Happy birthday, pretty a prezi.

[Taylor]

I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Aprizi. Happy birthday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy born day a'. Preezy. Thank you for being a brilliant idiot, man. We appreciate y', all, man. Thank you for tuning in every week. And listen, as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.

[Alex]

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