Sam Shamoun EXPOSES Islam (EP 182)

Summary

The Bryce Crawford Podcast

Episode 182: Sam Shamoun EXPOSES Islam

Host: Bryce Crawford
Guest: Sam Shamoun
Date: March 2, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this thought-provoking episode, Bryce Crawford sits down with renowned Christian apologist Sam Shamoun to discuss major theological differences between Christianity and Islam. Sam shares his personal faith journey, his extensive apologetics work refuting Islam, and provides deep insights into Islamic history, doctrine, and polemics. The conversation covers the spiritual, historical, and practical challenges Christians face when engaging with Islamic claims—offering a mix of theological rigor, biblical wisdom, and pragmatic advice for believers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Sam Shamoun’s Background & Apologetics Journey

• Assyrian heritage: Sam explains he is Assyrian, not Syrian, descended from the biblical Ashur (Gen 10:21-22) (05:00).
• Christian conversion: Born into the Assyrian Church of the East, true faith came at age 6.5 through a peer, not his parents.
• Full-time ministry: In 1999, after a clear sign from God, Sam joined Answering Islam to defend Christianity against Islamic claims—authoring over 4,200 articles (03:20).
• "Halal Hogan": Sam on his parody persona for the Islamicate parody "Islamicize Me" series—satirizing the effects of adopting Islamic practices (01:14).

Focus of Ministry: Refuting Islam to Equip Believers

• Primary purpose: While he wants all to come to Christ, his main drive is equipping Christians so they aren’t humiliated by Muslim apologists (08:14).
• “Most of my material is not really focused on Islam. It's focused on the core Christian doctrines… the Trinity, the deity of Christ, salvation.” – Sam (11:38).

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The Challenge of Conversion: Cultural & Religious Identity

• Sam explains for Muslims, as with other ethnic groups, religion is deeply intertwined with culture and identity—leaving Islam means leaving one's heritage and family support:
  • “When you leave Islam, you're not just leaving a religion, you're leaving behind your culture and your ethnic identity. So it comes at a price.” – Sam (14:13)
• He challenges Muslims to remember their ancestors once converted too, showing the historic fluidity of religious identities (15:13).

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Explaining “Stages” of Islam: Contextual Behavior

• The Three Stages of Islamic Expansion:
  • Stage 1: Outnumbered minority – preach peacefully (“To you your religion, to me mine”).
  • Stage 2: Growing power – self-defense, fight those who fight you.
  • Stage 3: Majority/military dominance – compel and expand (16:59).
• Application to the West:
  • “When you say this is not real Islam—no, it is real Islam because of the stage in which Muslims are.”
  • In America: Stage 1; in UK enclaves: Stage 2; in Muslim-majority countries: Stage 3 (21:10).

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The Limits of Political Solutions

• Sam stresses:
  • “There’s no human solution… Only Jesus has a solution to this problem. Your politics ain't going to solve it.”
  • Relates to Jesus’s parable of the wheat and tares (Matthew 13), explaining Christians must coexist with “children of the devil” until Christ’s return (23:11).

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The Origins of Islam: Muhammad’s Revelations Exposed

• Sam and Bryce examine early hadiths/live readings (Sahih al-Bukhari) documenting Muhammad’s first experience:
  • Muhammad had terrifying, physically traumatic visions, believed he was demon-possessed, and repeatedly attempted suicide. His wife Khadijah and her Christian cousin Waraqa reassured him he was a prophet (26:14-43:45).
  • “Islam started with Muhammad being emotionally, psychologically, spiritually violated and having a Christian convince him that [he wasn’t possessed]…” – Sam (45:51)
• Notable moment:
  • “You would think… the angel already know that Muhammad can't read… So why ask him to do something he can't do and then torture him for not doing it?” (32:04)

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Islamic Texts & Contradictions: The Quran’s Troubled History

• Early Qurans had significant textual variations; companions accused each other of fabrications.
  • Examples: Uthman’s recension and the destruction of variant Qurans (53:27).
  • “So when a Muslim brings up contradictions in the Bible, I said, well, if you're right, the Bible's contradictory, then I can never be a Muslim. And you prove Muhammad is a liar.” – Sam (80:46).

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How to Engage Muslims: Confidence Without Fear

• Sam on intimidation tactics:
  • “Muslims… are narcissists. They try to intimidate you, bully you, to control you. When you stand up to them, then you expose their cowardice.” (58:09)
• Do not engage endless debates for “pearls before swine”:
  • Scriptural examples from Paul and Jesus on rebuking heretics and divisive people: Second Peter 2, Titus 3:10-11, Matthew 7:6 (63:41, 65:28).
• Christians "need the balance of boldness, biblical masculinity for men, and not be intimidated by bullying tactics because you have the truth” (58:16).

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The Islamic Dilemma: Quran’s Reliance on the Bible

• The “Islamic Dilemma”: The Quran insists that Christians and Jews had the true, uncorrupted scriptures (Torah, Injil) at Muhammad’s time, which are the standard to judge Muhammad and the Quran—yet Muslims often claim these are corrupt.
  • “So when a Muslim tells me the Bible is corrupt, he's saying the Quran is lying…” – Sam (84:15)
• Parable of Mark in the Quran: “The Gospel contains this parable that is still found in Mark 4. So they just told you that the Quran is quoting Mark 4:27–28 as the gospel…” (90:00).

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Common Objections and “Pauline Christianity”

• Muslims often claim Paul hijacked Jesus’ message (94:54).
• Yet the Quran states Jesus’ disciples would be “victorious till the Day of Resurrection,” so if Paul corrupted their message, Allah’s word failed—contradicting Islam (97:56).

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Muhammad’s Marriage to Aisha: The Historical Record

• The hadiths confirm Muhammad married Aisha at six and consummated the marriage at nine, while she still played with dolls—showing she was not pubescent and undermining modern apologetics (105:17, 107:08).
• “This shows you how sick, demonic and wicked these people are that would justify and defend this perverted practice.” – Sam (109:53)

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Taqiya: Permitted Deception in Islam

• Under certain conditions, Muslims can feign friendship or deceive non-Muslims for self-protection or strategic purposes (110:11).
• Quote from Ibn Kathir: “We smile in the face of some people, although our hearts curse them.” (117:01)
• “You have to hate Muhammad as much as you hate Islam… so [Christians] never ever consider becoming Muslim.” (117:33)

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Practical Advice for Christians

• Focus on Christ, not just refuting Islam:
  • “The most important part… Christians are poorly educated. They can't even answer basic questions about the basic doctrines of their faith. Trinity. What is the Trinity? Is Jesus God? If so, was he praying to himself? How can God die? How can God become a man?... Learn the evidence for the resurrection…” (128:20)
• Stay in your gift and perfect your craft, but always be rooted in Scripture and the core of Christian faith (128:20).
• Apologetics resources: AnsweringIslam.info and SamShmnThelOgy.net (121:40).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On apologetics focus:
  • “My passion is first equip the body of Christ and then reach out to those who are not part of the body of Christ.” – Sam (10:39)
• On Islam’s “peaceful” image:
  • “Islam is a religion of peace. And that they'll have a piece of you here and a piece of you there. So it's a religion of pieces.” – Sam (15:13)
• On hopeful action:
  • “There’s no human solution… Only Jesus has a solution to this problem.” (23:13)
• On confrontation:
  • “Muslims… are narcissists. They try to intimidate you… Stand up to the bully, then you expose their cowardice... Christians in the west equate being Christian with being soft and effeminate… We need the balance of boldness, biblical masculinity for men, and not be intimidated by bullying tactics because you have the truth. They don’t.” (58:16)
• On Christian education:
  • “The most important part… Christians are poorly educated… Learn the evidence that Christ has been raised. The resurrection is a fact of history…” (128:20)
• Closing encouragement:
  • “Learn your faith and then live it out… love Jesus, worship, pray, read our faith, and evangelize. That’s all we can do.” (123:07)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• [01:14] – The “Halal Hogan” persona & parody series
• [03:20] – History of Answering Islam & online apologetics
• [05:00] – Sam’s Assyrian heritage and faith background
• [08:14] – The real purpose: Equipping believers, not just refuting Islam
• [16:59] – Stages of Islam: Contextual behaviors in history & the West
• [21:14] – “Real Islam” in different cultural contexts
• [26:14–43:45] – Live breakdown of Muhammad’s first revelation; trauma and alleged demonic encounter; primary Islamic sources read aloud
• [53:27] – Early Quran compilation and textual corruption outlined
• [58:09] – Christians confronting intimidation and “bullying” tactics in debate
• [63:41] – Engaging (or not) “pearls before swine”; scriptural treatment of heretics
• [80:45] – How to flip attacks on the Bible and expose the “Islamic Dilemma”
• [90:00] – Mark 4’s parable confirmed as “Gospel” in the Quran: textual and historical implications
• [94:54] – The “Pauline Christianity” accusation and its refutation from the Quran
• [105:17] – Muhammad’s marriage to Aisha explained from major Islamic sources
• [110:11] – Sunni doctrine of taqiya and permitted deception
• [117:33] – The need for Christians to inoculate themselves and reject Islam’s claims
• [121:40/128:20] – How to learn more and be equipped: resources and spiritual priorities

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Final Encouragement (Sam’s Closing Words)

“Learn your faith and then live it out. The most important part… Christians are poorly educated. They can't even answer basic questions about the basic doctrines of their faith… Know your faith. The most important part of all of this is Christians are poorly educated… Learn the evidence that Christ has been raised. The resurrection is a fact of history transforming the apostles. The Bible is historically accurate. God is triune. Learn your faith and then live it out.” (128:20)

“It’s about Jesus. To see him, to physically touch him, to be touched on life, physically held by him, kiss his feet because he’s the source of love. Hell is not having Jesus. Heaven is where Jesus is, and I pray we’ll be with him forever.” (131:56)

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Resources Mentioned

• Answering Islam Website
• Answering Islam Blog
• Sam Shamoun’s Personal Site
  (note: spelling in URL is a typo by Sam, as he jokes in the episode)

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For Listeners

If you’re looking to defend your faith or better understand the claims and history of Islam (as well as how to respond graciously and boldly as a Christian), this dialogue offers a wealth of insights, biblical reasoning, and practical direction.

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Transcript

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[Bryce Crawford]

What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Bryce Crawford podcast. I'm Bryce, and today I have a very special guest getting this graciously sit down. We've got Sam Shamoon with us today.

[Sam Shamoon]

Am I special?

[Bryce Crawford]

You're very special.

[Sam Shamoon]

Well, they say I have special needs.

[Bryce Crawford]

Whoa, do they?

[Sam Shamoon]

That's right. Wow.

[Bryce Crawford]

And thanks for sitting down. Now, some. Some people know you as do you. Put this username on your zoom. Halal Hogan. Is that what you do?

[Sam Shamoon]

That started because. Sorry. We asked the Holy Spirit first of all to fill you and I and purge us in this purifying fire and purify us in the blood of Jesus Christ. I ask the Holy Spirit to give me the health that I need, the vigor and strength and the holiness that we need to glorify Jesus Christ by the precious blood of Jesus. Holy Spirit, you are the teacher. Strengthen my throat in Jesus name. As you can see, brother, I'm not young. I'm 53. My health is decaying. 20 years ago, I could speak for nine hours. My throat would be good right now. It's all the grace of Jesus Christ. It's always been the grace of Jesus Christ. But to come back to what you're asking me, Halal Hogan was the name that I adopted because there was a series we did. I don't know if you remember, the islamicai series.

[Bryce Crawford]

Okay.

[Sam Shamoon]

Years ago. It's actually, I think you can find it still on YouTube because they were being deleted because they're too controversial. It was a series, pretty much a parody off of what a couple of Muslim converts attempted to do. There are some who convert Islam and they were looking to murder Robert Spencer and Pam Geller because they had this conference going on where they were going to exercise their free speech to criticize Muhammad So these guys went there with the intention of killing them. They got killed. Wow. So this was a parody on what Islam does to you. So you know how you. Have you heard of Supreme Supersize Me?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, yeah, the documentary.

[Sam Shamoon]

Parody off of that and parody off of what happened. So Islamicize me. What happens to a person who studies Islam, what happens to them within 30 days? So they brought me in as Halal Hogan and the Mad Sheikh. You can actually see it. You can put on Halal Hogan parody or you can put Mad Sheikh and then you're going to see me.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

That's right.

[Bryce Crawford]

I love it. Well, you, a lot of people, I definitely like younger people like myself. We see more of like the, the newer, more recent like zoom conversations that you have. But you've been doing this for years, talking to Islam. I mean, how long have you been talking to Muslims?

[Sam Shamoon]

And I wanted to full time ministry. 1999, I had asked the Lord if you wanted me to devote myself to refuting Islam. There was a website that had just started. Remember in the 90s, the Internet was just catching on. 90s, we didn't have Zoom, we didn't have YouTube, we didn't have none of that to go live. Everything was written. So you'd start a website, you'd write an article, I'd start a website website and either write an article or respond to yours. And we went back and forth. So there was a brother named Jochen Katz from Germany, started the Answering Islam website. People can still go there. It's the most comprehensive one website refuting Islam, defending Christianity. He started in 98, I joined him in 99. So when I asked the Lord, do you want me to do this full time? I asked for a sign, gave me the sign, never looked back. So since 1999, I became the chief writer. Not the best writer, but the chief writer because I was doing it full time. So right now with the articles on the website and the blog, because I started a blog, someone calculated that I have 4,200 articles since 1999. So 4,000. That's what I, I don't, I didn't count. There's a brother in the Lord Jesus Christ who happens to be one of my mods for my YouTube channel. He said, you have about 4,200 articles and rebuttals. So that's what I've done since 1999. Wow. Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, praise Jesus. And, and, and you. So how long have you been following Jesus? How did, how did that occur? How did you have begin to believe in Jesus?

[Sam Shamoon]

My Story goes back. Well, you have to start with my ethnicity. I'm Assyrian, not Syrian, right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep.

[Sam Shamoon]

When I say Assyrian. No, you're from Syria. No, Assyrian, Ashwari. We get our name from our ancestor Ashur. So an Assyrian is an Ashuraya son of Ashur. Like you know how Israel. Why are they called Israel? Because their father Jacob, his name was Israel. These are descendants of Israel. So Asher is found in Genesis chapter 10, 21 and 22. If you go there, the sons of Shem, one of his sons is Ashur. That's the ancestor of my people.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

That's why we're called Semites. Shemites, descendants of Shem, Sam, Semites. So Semite means a descendant of Shem.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

So Assyrians are descendants of Shem. You have various strands of Arabs that would also be descendants of Shem, but not all Arabs would be. But nonetheless, not to belabor the point, so I'm Assyrian. If you look at the history of the spread of Christianity and conversion of the Christian faith, Assyrians are one of the first people to convert to Christianity. Their conversion starts in the first century. Right. So Assyrians heard the Gospel, converted, and so they took on Christianity as their religion. I was born to an Assyrian Christian family. Now the church that my family is affiliated with is called the Assyrian Church of the East. Look it up. Ancient church. In fact, at one time in history, I would say perhaps by the 8th century, 7 hundreds, it was the largest denomination of Christians the world over. Assyrians even went as far as India and China and converted people to the Christian faith. So but when you read his three books, the church is called the Nestorian Church, even though they're not Nestorians. Nonetheless, that's the label given to them. I was born into that background, baptized as an infant, but nonetheless, my parents didn't teach me the Christian faith. There was a nine year old boy, Assyrian, from Lebanon. His grandmother was a devout godly Catholic woman. His uncles on his mother's side Baptist. So they taught him, you know, to preach and evangelize. So this nine year old evangelized me when I was six and a half.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

And he's the one who introduced me to who Jesus was. Not my parents, my parents, though Christian by name, they didn't teach me the Christian faith. He did. So at six and a half, I was introduced to Jesus being the son of God. Fast forward, teenage years became rebellious, fell away. But then right before I turned 20, returned to my Christian roots. So I started reading the Bible again. And then my journey began when I interacted with Muslims and then the rest is history. I went into full time ministry, apologetics.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow. Now why Islam? Why you? That's not the only thing that you, you, you focus on. And those are the only people that you conversate with. But that seems to be something that you're passionate about. You're zealous about reaching the Muslims. Is that because of an ethnic thing? Like what is that?

[Sam Shamoon]

I'm not so much passionate about reaching Muslims. And I'm not saying I'm not passionate about reaching them. Of course I want Muslims to get saved. My passion about Islam is, wasn't so much because I wanted to convert Muslims. And of course I do want to convert them. Their religion is false. Muhammad is an antichrist. The reason why I became passionate about Islam is because when I returned to my Christian roots, I had an encounter with a Muslim apologist. Now if I were to just backtrack a little bit, as I was coming back to Christianity, I was introduced to Islam here in the West. So that's another irony though. My parents. Sorry. Takes a while for my throat to warm up. Don't take advantage of your youth, friend. I want to see how you're going to be when you're 53 years old.

[Bryce Crawford]

I'm drinking the electrolytes right now.

[Sam Shamoon]

Well, hey, man, as long as it's electrifying, all I can say is, will you still have your hair when you're 53?

[Bryce Crawford]

I pray to God I will have my hair. I've got an egg shaped head under here, so if I lose my hair, it's, it's bad. You see, you're, you have like the perfect head shape for no hair. Like, I don't have the perfect head shape for no hair. So, like, if I shave my head, it wouldn't look good, brother.

[Sam Shamoon]

But you can audition for Batman Egghead.

[Bryce Crawford]

Hey, thank you. Thank you, Egghead. Oh, you. I thought you meant I was going to be Bat Batman. Egghead.

[Sam Shamoon]

If you watch Batman, one of his villains was Egghead.

[Bryce Crawford]

I would be Egghead.

[Sam Shamoon]

You're making up.

[Bryce Crawford]

But hey, thank you, brother.

[Sam Shamoon]

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[Bryce Crawford]

You're right.

[Sam Shamoon]

Don't knock it till you try it. But so, coming back to issue, what was I talking about? Yeah, okay, so even though my family's from the Middle east, they never told me about the religion of their neighbors because my parents are from Iraq. I was born in Kuwait, but they never told me about Islam. I learned about Islam here in Chicago. In Chicago. I was introduced to Islam by a Member of the Nation of Islam. And he blew me away, gave me a Quran and I was really confused. Started studying Malcolm X, read his autobiography, and I got really more confused, like, wow, this religion, maybe there's something to it. But I went back to the New Testament, fell in love with Jesus Christ. And I had a friend who was a Muslim that I witnessed to. He started liking Christianity, but he brought in his Muslim friends and we had debates. I was green, they were green. Didn't know much about Christianity, they didn't know much about Islam. They brought an apologist to tear me to shreds and humiliate me. So then I cried out to the Lord. I go, lord, if you give me answers to the objections, I promise to commit myself by the grace of the Holy Spirit. Obviously, I can't do without the Spirit. To never allow any Christians to be humiliated by Muslims again. That's what started my journey. So my passion, I don't want people misunderstand me. I want everyone to come to know Jesus Christ because he is the only hope of salvation. Christ is real. Without Jesus, there is no salvation. So everyone needs the Lord, Muslims need the Lord. But my passion started with making sure Christians are equipped so that no Christian gets humiliated, embarrassed, no Christian starts losing his or her faith that they are strengthened in their faith. So my passion is first equip the body of Christ and then reach out to those who are not part of the body of Christ. So there is my passion. That's why over 90% of my material is not really focused on Islam. It's focused on the core Christian doctrines.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

Why do we believe in the Trinity? Why do we believe Jesus is God in the flesh? Why do we believe in the mess of salvation? These are the focuses of my ministry because these are the main areas that the Muslims will attack.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow. Yeah. Islam is interesting to me because at least here in the West, I get to grow up in a country freedom of religion. I can walk in the street and be like, I'm a Christian. And some people will be like, yeah, whatever. Some people will be like, oh, cool, whatever it may be, but. But for the Muslim, it's like their blood, it's their heritage. It's not like a. It's not like a attachment to their life. It's just who they are. So just from the, from the little that I've been able to encounter, one of the reasons why it appears to me it seems so hard for a Muslim to just turn from Islam is because they're like, well, my family and my friends and My all. So if you were navigating a conversation with a Muslim and they were like, you know, you're getting me, you're reaching me. But like, right now, I just don't. My family, my friends, the price you have to pay.

[Sam Shamoon]

It's not just Muslims. If you survey the landscape, you have a lot of people who are Christians because of their particular ethnic group. For example, if you're Greek, most likely you are Eastern Orthodox, Assyrian, most likely you're Assyrian Church of the East. So it's not just Muslims per se. A lot of ethnic groups, part of their identity is the religion that their ancestors adopted. So when you talk about Muslims, for example, not all Pakistanis are Muslims, but large number would be Muslims. Not all Arabs are Muslims. There's a lot of Arabs who are Christians. In fact, Egypt, a lot of people may not know this. Egypt is not. They're not Arabs and they're not part of Arabia. You know what continent Egypt is a part of?

[Bryce Crawford]

What are they?

[Sam Shamoon]

Africa.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Wow. Egypt is African. But why do we associate that with Islam? Because we think, you know, they're Muslims, they're Arabs, and originally Egyptians, they were Christians.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

When Islam came and took over, a lot of them were forced to convert. But my point is, most groups are born into a particular religious expression. Even in the west, if you're born in America, most likely until, I mean now, recent times, obviously. But if you look back 56 years, if you're born in America, you were definitely part of some Christian group.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Right. So ethnicity and religion, sometimes they just go in and in. Now, coming back to your question. Yes. It's going to be hard to dislodge a Muslim from Islam because his particular culture, his ethnic group, their identity is tied in with their religion. So he is or she is born a Muslim because their parents are Muslims and their parents were Muslims and their parents were Muslims. Why? Because at some point Islam came, conquered a particular area and forced mass conversions. Right. So when you leave Islam, you're not just leaving a religion, you're leaving behind your culture and your ethnic identity. So it comes at a price. But my question to them would be, if you go back into your own history, there was a time in which even your culture had to become Muslim. Right. And because Islam hasn't been there since the dawn of man started, if we go with the traditional Islamic narrative, start in the seventh century, six hundreds. So when it spread its rule all over the world, it encountered people who had a different religion. So I'm pretty certain they would have said the Same thing. Well, I can't become Muslim because then I lose my family. But you believe they made the right choice when they became Muslim. And they're willing to pay the price because the sacrifice was worth it. They're leaving. Their identity as a culture was worth that sacrifice for eternal life. So this is what I would tell them, basically. So some point in time, your ancestors were not Muslims. Do you think they made the right decision from turning their back against their religion that was tied in with their particular culture or ethnic group? For instance, the Persians, Their religion is Zoroastrianism. They are what we today call Zoroastrians. That was their religion, their identity. Zoroastrianism is an ancient religion that predates the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. So when the Persians became Muslim, I'm not going to say forced conversion because they don't believe that narrative. No, Islam is peaceful. Yeah. Islam is a religion of peace. And that they'll have a piece of you here and a piece of you there. So it's a religion of pieces. Right. Don't be politically correct, man.

[Bryce Crawford]

You're right.

[Sam Shamoon]

You are, but. Yeah. How dare you, Sam? That's not Islam. You're just, you know, Islamophobe.

[Bryce Crawford]

No, it's not a religion of the peace. It's not a religion of peace. And I think. I think not to cut you off, but like, what we're seeing in America, Islam in America, it's not real Islam. It's not like when I'm looking at.

[Sam Shamoon]

Well, let me clarify that. If you study the history of Muhammad, Muhammad's evolution. If you look at his evolution from him starting off claiming to be a prophet to then become a warlord, this is Islam. Depending on what stage you find Muslims in. So I like to break down the stage of Islamic expansion in three. Some will do four. First stage is when you're outnumbered. And by the way, this is reflected in the Quran. If people want to know the Quran and understand its historical context, you need a good commentary to explain to you which chapters of the Quran were composed where. Because the chapters of the Quran are divided into two periods. The Meccan period, the Medina period, the Mecca Medani. The Meccan period is when Muhammad was outnumbered from around 6, 10. Excuse me. Because see, man, I'm telling you, bro, you stuffed up with water, dude. Shoot.

[Bryce Crawford]

There you go.

[Sam Shamoon]

Is that your body? I got water here. Is that your bodyguard you see? Hey, guys, you can't see his bodyguard. He would put the fear of God in Arnold Schwarzenegger. By the way, the camera adds ten Pounds. They got six cameras on me. All right, but coming back. Yeah. So coming back to the issue of whether this is real Islam or not. It is depending on what stage. So when Muhammad claimed to be a prophet in 610 AD in Mecca, he was outnumbered by the disbelievers. They're the ones who had the power, they had the money, they had the control. During that stage, the message of Islam was one of more let's preach and see who's right. But if you disagree to your religion, to my religion, that's stage one. So when he said it's not real Islam, well they're in the same circumstances Muhammad was when he was outnumbered. So what part of Islam will they implement? Stage one, wow. The people in control, in charge, outnumber the Muslims and the Muslims have no means of subjugating the people, taking control of their economics, politics and every other aspect of society. So this is Islam in stage one, from 610 to around 622 Muhammad or 623 they'll say 13 years was living in that context of being outnumbered. So if you read the chapter of the Quran composed during that period, you'll find very little on fight those who fight you, very little on fight those who don't believe like you, very little if at all. Then he migrates to Medina. This is all in Arabia. Medina is to the north. Now he becomes the head of state. Now stage two, fight those who fight you and oppress you. Self defense stage. Fast forward two years before he dies, he conquers the entire Arabian peninsula. All of rabies under his control. Now he has a huge military base. Base. He now controls the economics. Now is stage three, expand Islam militarily, politically. So when you say this is not real Islam. No, it is real Islam because of the stage in which Muslims are. Now if you want to see this paradigm played out, look at the different areas of the world. See if the Muslims are the majority or not. If they are, it'll be stage three, straight truth and they're in control. They're the ones who can tell you what you do and you cannot do if they have a large number. Stage two, Islamophobia. You're robbing us of our rights and you're not letting our woman put on the veil. And we have a right to now attack when they're minority. Stage one. So look around the demographics and see which country will you find Muslims and implementing which stage. So in America, what stage would they be implementing?

[Bryce Crawford]

1 ish 1 is right.

[Sam Shamoon]

Getting to 2, right. What about certain pockets in England?

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, it's like two right now.

[Sam Shamoon]

Two.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

What about Muslim majority country stage three?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

See how it works?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

So it's not that it's not real Islam. It is real Islam, depending on your context.

[Bryce Crawford]

Whoa.

[Sam Shamoon]

Each one of these stages reflect the stage in Muhammad's development.

[Bryce Crawford]

So, I mean. Yeah, I mean, you're looking in the pockets of Europe. I was thinking about that right before you asked. Like the political power that they've obtained once. Once they get a little bit of that, you can't get back, friend.

[Sam Shamoon]

Did you see what they just did in Times Square for Ramadan?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

They took it over with the permission of the mayor, the city with police protection. They took over the whole of Times Square to pray to their pagan God, false God. This is the thing. Because we pride ourselves on freedom of religion and freedom of assembly. If we restrict those rights to Muslims, then the same liberals will then say, then we'll restrict them. For, you see, we're in a position. Damn if you do, damn if you don't. If I don't want them to assemble and I don't want them to gather because I'm afraid of Islamic takeover, that means I'm asking for their freedom of religious expression and assembly to be restricted. But then what stops the politicians to then restrict your freedom as a Christian from assembling and expressing yourself? So you're in a very bad position. If you're pushing for them to be censored, then they're going to censor you. But if you don't push for them to be censored, then they're going to take control slowly but surely. Yeah. I mean, you tell me.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Do you want them to stop assembling? They'll say, all right, we got to be fair, then we got to stop all religious groups to assemble. You don't want them to preach Islam, then we got to be fair. We got to now restrict all groups from preaching their message. So you're in a situation, you don't win.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, that's sad.

[Sam Shamoon]

That is. This is reality America. It's not the America of your grandparents.

[Bryce Crawford]

So what's the response then?

[Sam Shamoon]

What.

[Bryce Crawford]

What is. Is there a better option?

[Sam Shamoon]

There's no human solution. I don't want to sound like a pessimist, because I've thought about it. I really. Again, I don't want to sound pessimistic, because I'm not. Because Jesus is Lord. He is. He's alive, Muhammad is dead. Jesus is almighty. But we know that it's Going to be very dark before the Lord descends. In fact, they say it's darkest right before the dawn. Before dawn breaks, it gets very dark. Jesus is the dawn that breaks through the darkness and destroys it. So I expect this is just me, my understanding scripture, I can be wrong. It's going to get worse until the Lord descends. And only Jesus has a solution to this problem. Your politics ain't going to solve it. Your economics ain't going to solve it. None of this can solve it. And if we're going to be realistic, we're not going to have all Muslims converting. Right? Because if you believe that the Lord Jesus doesn't compel people to accept him, that means until the Lord returns. Because people have the right to choose. And the Lord doesn't compel people to accept them. Not everyone's going to accept Christianity. So we're going to be living with the children of Satan. And this is actually in one of Jesus's parables, if you go to Matthew 13:24 30, he talks about an owner of a field planting good seed, and his enemy at night came and planted bad seed, tares, among the wheats. So then the servants came, saying, look, your enemy came at night and planted tares. What should we do? He goes, wait till the harvest. Because in the beginning stages, you can't tell the difference between the wheat and the tare. Certain type of wheat and tare. And that geographical location looks identical. In the beginning stages, it's until harvest. Then you can distinguish. He goes, wait till the harvest, lest you accidentally pluck out the wheat. Then he explains it. Matthew 13:36, 43. He goes, the owner of the field is the Son of Man, Jesus. The field is the world. The good seed are the children of the kingdom, children of God. The enemy is the devil. His seed are the children of the devil. So the Lord says, the harvest is when the Son of Man returns at the end to judge. So he just told you you're going to live with children of Satan until he returns. He says that in the parable, you cannot get rid of the children of Satan. The Lord says, they will be among you, in your midst, in the world, till the Son of Man returns on the day of judgment. So are you going to get rid of them?

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

You can't do it, man.

[Bryce Crawford]

Dang. That's so interesting and fascinating. Yeah, I like that perspective that you shared of not real Islam. It's not. It's just different stages. Yeah, that's so fascinating to me. I want to rewind back to Muhammad because I Have so many questions about this dude.

[Sam Shamoon]

How many hours you got?

[Bryce Crawford]

We got all the time in the world. So Muhammad.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yes, the little. I'll tell you.

[Bryce Crawford]

Let me share the little I know about Muhammad. And then you correct where I've disorganized and what's right and what's wrong. Muhammad gets a revelation in a cave, no eyewitnesses, and then his wife convinces him that he's a prophet sent from God. But he was going to. He thought a demon was interacting with him. Precisely. Can you explain that whole.

[Sam Shamoon]

If you go with the Sunni, by the way, we got to mention that the largest group of Muslims in the world are the Sunni branch of Islam. The second largest would be the Shia. So the Shia are not as numerous, but they are the second largest group. What divides them is really political. I just want to let you know that. So when I talk about Muslims, I'm talking specifically about Sunni Muslims. We have to be careful because there are some Muslims that are Quran only. So what I'm going to tell you, they reject because they don't believe in what they call the hadith. Hadith is a report attributed to Muhammad or his companions. Right. So Quran only. Muslims say, we don't care about that deed. The Shia have their own hadiths. Right. So the hadiths that I'm mentioning are those accepted by the largest group of Muslims in the world, the Sunni Muslims. Right. And they come from what they would call Sahih sitta. I'm not trying to sound impressive. I like Arabic. Sadly, the Muslims monopolize it. But Arabic was created to be used to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ, the God of all nations, the God of all Arabs. He owns them all. He loves them all. And we will reclaim Arabic for the glory of Jesus Christ. Because all nations and all tongues must Praise him. Daniel 7, 13 and 14.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Revelation 5, right? 8, 14. I just want to know. That's right. You know your Bible. By the way, do you know What Acts, chapter 29, verse 20 says?

[Bryce Crawford]

I do.

[Sam Shamoon]

Not. Because there's no Acts 29. Fist bump.

[Bryce Crawford]

Come on.

[Sam Shamoon]

Hey. Amen. That's why you don't know it, because you know your Bible. That's why. Wait, you found the lost manuscript, but

[Bryce Crawford]

coming back to Muhammad, did you follow the lost manuscript?

[Sam Shamoon]

So according to the most authentic collection of narrations attributed to Muhammad from the Sunni paradigm. Sal Bukhari. Sahih meaning sound. Al Bukhari. A man named Al Bukhari collected what he deemed to me the most authentic

[Bryce Crawford]

narrations and that was his Best friend, right?

[Sam Shamoon]

No, no. Bukhari comes 9th century, 8 hundreds. Muhammad said. You're talking about Abu Bakr. Yes, Abu Bakr Siddiq. He was Muhammad's best friend according to the Sunni narrative, not the Shia.

[Bryce Crawford]

Gotcha.

[Sam Shamoon]

Who married his daughter off to Muhammad. She was six and then nine when they constituted.

[Bryce Crawford]

We're gonna get to that.

[Sam Shamoon]

Shoot, man. What? It was acceptable back then. Hater.

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, right, right.

[Sam Shamoon]

So he claims that as he was fasting and there the traditions say that he was observing Ramadan. Some traditions. And a spirit appeared to him. Spirit told him, read or recite. Because the Arabic word for read or recite can mean read or recite. It depends on the context. So if you have a book and I say that means read. Or I can say and then I'll recite words meaning. Now repeat after me.

[Bryce Crawford]

Gotcha.

[Sam Shamoon]

So according to tradition, the spirit says to him, read or recite. There's a debate because there are some narrations that are contradictory, but we'll go with the popular and the normative understanding. He said to him, read. Muhammad said, I don't know how to read. So the spirit squeezed him to the point of Muhammad. This is actually for those listening online. You go to sunnah.coms u nah.com. it has all the major Hadith collections that are translated English, available online for free. Wow. It's all there. So you don't even need to buy the books. And the night is. I had to go buy books. I'm broke, man. If I had Internet, I would have had at least a million bucks. And buy me a house, dude, Instead of living in an apartment. Haters. But anyway, so you go to sunnah.com it's volume one, number three of Sahih Al Bukhari. Sahih Al Bukhari. Volume.

[Bryce Crawford]

Should we pull it up?

[Sam Shamoon]

It's up to you if you want to.

[Bryce Crawford]

Can we pull it up? It was sunnah.com S u n n

[Sam Shamoon]

a s u n. Yeah, dot com. And then you can read off the screen. You see where it says.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep, Click that one. The first one on the left.

[Sam Shamoon]

Down to your left. Right there. Right there. Click where it says revelation number one up top. Go to number three. You can read if you want. I can't see it. Right there. That one. Right there. That one. Can you see it? Yep. Read it slowly.

[Bryce Crawford]

The commencement of the divine inspiration to Allah's messenger was in the form of good dreams, which came true like bright daylight. And then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go into Seclusion in the cave of Hira, where he used to worship Allah alone continuously for many days before his desire to see his family. He used to take with him the journey of food for the stay, then come back to his wife Khadijah to take his food likewise again, until suddenly the truth descended upon him. While he was in the cave of Hira, the angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, I do not know how to read. The Prophet added, the angel caught me forcefully and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore.

[Sam Shamoon]

Now you understand before you continue reading. The spirit is spiritually violating him because he felt like he was going to die. But notice how many times the spirit's going to now violate him psychologically and it gets him to want to commit suicide. Now watch. That was the first time he did it, right? Wow.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep.

[Sam Shamoon]

Now watch.

[Bryce Crawford]

Then he released me and again asked me to read. And I replied, I do not know how to read.

[Sam Shamoon]

You would think that the angel already know that Muhammad can't read, right? If Allah is sending him. Does Allah know the condition of this man? That he's illiterate? Yeah. So why ask him to do something he can't do and then torture him for not doing it?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

See, Islam itself is just demonic at its core. Irrational, incoherent, unintelligible. But now watch what happens. So he asked them again, read. I don't know how to read. So what did he do?

[Bryce Crawford]

And then it says that the angel came to him and asked him to read. He did it again. It says, therefore he caught me up for a third time and pressed me and then released me and said, read in the name of your Lord.

[Sam Shamoon]

So he tortured him three times. Three times. And after the third time, after pressing the life out of him to the point he thought, I'm going to be killed. Then he says, recite the first three verses of chapter 96, Surat Alaq. Right. The Surah chapter of the clot. So he said, now repeat after me. Now what happens though? Keep reading, keep reading.

[Bryce Crawford]

He says, read, and your Lord is the most generous. Then Allah's messenger returned with the inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to Khadijah and said, cover me, cover me.

[Sam Shamoon]

In other words, you know how when a child is afraid of the boogeyman, what do they do? They run under the covers, right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

He's so petrified and horrified that he asks his wife to cover him from the boogeyman. And he's shivering. Hide me from him. So what Happens. Now watch.

[Bryce Crawford]

Cover me. Cover me. They covered him till his fear was over. And after that, he told her everything that had happened and said, I fear that something may happen to me.

[Sam Shamoon]

Now, other reports say I think I'm demon possessed. He says Majnun. Majnun means possess the Vijin. Now, before, don't lose your place because I'm going to show you in Islam you don't just have angels, you also have a class of creatures called jinn. You know what jinn are?

[Bryce Crawford]

No.

[Sam Shamoon]

Genies.

[Bryce Crawford]

Interesting.

[Sam Shamoon]

That's what a jinn is. It's a genie. So have you ever wondered, you and your bodyguard over here, that handsome. Are you making me look skinny, by the way? Yes, because I gained 30 pounds trying to go on 97. Make sure my love handles. I'm gonna get the jinn to come and squeeze you. All right. But coming back to the issue, have you ever wondered, you and your bodyguard Revere regards that body of yours so that your wife knows that you're safe. Have you ever wondered why genies look like Arabs? Have you looked like. Like Aladdin and the magic lamp? They look like Arabs, don't they?

[Bryce Crawford]

They do.

[Sam Shamoon]

Why? Because it comes out of Islam and Arabic religion.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

So what you think are mythical creatures? Islam says no, they're real beings. Genies actually exist. Now let me just. Before you finish it, I'm going to explain the difference between angels, genies and humans. Genies, like humans, can cohabit and have sex. In fact, genies can also have sex with humans and get them pregnant. Genies also are shape shifters. Though they die, they live much longer than humans and have abilities humans don't have. Genies, like humans, have the power to choose a religion. So in Islam, there are good genies and bad genies. The good genies are those who are Muslim. The bad genies are the Christian genies or the Jewish genie. Yeah, it's Islam. They're genies who follow Judaism. Now, Satan is a genie In Islam, chapter 18, verse 50, it says, Satan, whose name is Iblis, he's a genie. So we are taught that Satan is an angel. They are taught Satan is a genie.

[Bryce Crawford]

Interesting.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yep.

[Bryce Crawford]

But now. Now you mentioned before we continue reading that these genies.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yes.

[Bryce Crawford]

They can have sex with humans. Yes. That sounds a lot similar to the Nephilim.

[Sam Shamoon]

The Nephilim, yes, precisely.

[Bryce Crawford]

Do you. Do you have any thoughts about any correlation there?

[Sam Shamoon]

I don't know enough about the spirit realm to deny that they can do it till this day. What do I. If you read Genesis 6:1:4, if you go to the ancient reading, the reading, the oldest reading, of who the sons of God were, these were angelic creatures that came down, materialized a human form, and got women pregnant. Today you have people who say that's not possible. Well, I'd ask them, how do you know that much about the spirit realm? Have you been there? Have you talked to an angel to see what he can and cannot do? Because angels are created with potencies and abilities that we don't have because we lost them in the fall when Adam and Eve sinned. The glory that we had that made us greater than angelic creatures, we lost, but now it's restored in Jesus Christ our Lord. So we need to be humble, not presume we know more about the spirit realm than we do. A lot of people speak as if they've been there and had tea with Gabriel and came down, told us no Gabriel. So the oldest interpretation of Genesis 6 is that these were angels, so they could materialize bodies. And in those bodies, they didn't become human, they didn't become flesh incarnate is the term. But they could appear in a body. So real, human body. You could touch the body. It felt real. They could eat. And one proof of that is in Genesis 18. It says Abraham looked up, saw three men, one of whom was God. Three men. Some say all three were the Godhead. Nonetheless, we'll go with the popular understanding that one of the three. This is in Genesis 18. One of the three men, he saw three men walking. One was God, the other two were angels. It says they sat down, they had feet that could be washed with water, and they ate food. God and the two angels, it says he cooked food for them. They ate it in front of him. They ate food sitting down, and he brought water for their feet to wash. Now, God hasn't always been flesh, so during this time, God wasn't flesh. He didn't become a man. If these are created spirit beings, they're not flesh by nature, but they could assume a human form, a human body so real that you can touch it and it feels just as solid as your body. They could eat food, drink, and have their feet washed.

[Bryce Crawford]

Interesting.

[Sam Shamoon]

That's in Genesis 18. So we got to be careful in presuming to know more about the spirit realm than we do.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

So when they tell me angel, and then they'll misquote Luke 20, 34, 36, it says. Well, it says, in the age to come and day of resurrection, those are the sons of the resurrection, will neither marry nor be given in marriage. They'll be like angels, and they will not die. Well, number one, it says you'll be like angels and that you won't die. Angels are don't die unless you're Satan, and then you're destroyed in eternal fire. But secondly, that's talking about when they're in their natural realm, meaning if they're in the spirit realm, they don't have sex. But that's the point of Genesis 6. They didn't do it in the spirit realm. They came to the earthly realm to do it. So that in itself does not refute that interpretation. I say this because, if you follow, that the Nephilim are the hybrid offspring of these sons of God and daughters of men. Not only were they there before the flood, they were there after the flood because it says it. They were there in days of Noah and afterwards Genesis 4. But then in Numbers 13:31-33, it says when the 12 spies went and scout the land to see how beautiful Canaan was, they came back. Oh, man, it's a land flowing with milk, and it's beautiful. Ten of them said, yeah, but the natives there make us look like grasshoppers. And they are. The Nephilim says number 1333, they're Nephilim. So if you believe the Nephilim are the hybrid of these angelic creatures coating with women, then they were Nephilim again in the time of Moses. So what that means is, if we take that view, there's nothing in scripture that says angels cannot appear and impregnate people to this day.

[Bryce Crawford]

Interesting.

[Sam Shamoon]

Now, to go into more speculation again, I want to be careful. I don't want people think that we're conspiracy nuts. If we do take aliens as being actual entities that exist, well, what do they do? They say they also inseminate people. And if we look at aliens and their profile, they resemble the serpentine creatures that the Bible mentions exist. For example, the seraphim. The word seraph means fiery serpent. So here are spirit creatures with wings that guard the throne. But the name seraph means they're serpentine. They look like serpents. Satan himself is called Nachash serpent. He is the serpent. So that means if we follow the Bible, in the spirit realm, there are creatures that look like animals, look like insects. For example, in Revelation 9, when the king was given the key to the shaft of the abyss, he opens up the abyss. It says demons came out that looked like locusts. And what our lord saying, Luke 10. If you go to Luke 10 and you read 19, he goes, give me an authority to trample over. Snakes and scorpions. What snakes? What scorpions do you crush under your feet? Who are these snakes and scorpions? Yeah, if you're talking about animals, even non Christians can do that. Yeah. What snakes? Scorpions, Demons. So here our Lord says, in the spirit realm, demons can look like serpents, scorpions, locusts. So these aliens, the grays, whatever they call them, if they're real. I don't know, I'm just saying, if they're real, man, they sure look like serpentine figures. And if they are doing what? Again, guys don't say the same Zana. I'm just saying if. I don't know, I haven't met them and I don't plan on meeting them and having tea with them. And if they exist, I believe they're demons. They're not extraterrestrial. If it's true, then what the aliens are doing is what these beings did in the past. Because they would be the same demons. They appeared as gods back then, they're appearing as aliens now. But anyway, we went on a tangent, but that's what I want you to see. He thought he was demon possessed. Possessed by a genie.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, that's.

[Sam Shamoon]

So he goes, cover me, I fear. Get to the part where it says I fear.

[Bryce Crawford]

And then it says, Kadijah replied, never, by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your Keith and kin. Help the poor and the destitute, serve your guests generously and and assist the deserving calamity afflicted ones. Kadijah then accompanied him to her cousin.

[Sam Shamoon]

Now let's explain what happened here. She said, you're such a good man and a pious man. Allah would never allow you to be demon possessed. She takes him to her first cousin, Waraq IBN Nauful. And he's a Christian. And it says right, you'll read it. Christian. He used to read and write the gospel in Arabic and in other versions in Hebrew. A Christian. So she says, you're the religious man, you're the Christian, you know the gospel. What say you? So take it from there.

[Bryce Crawford]

So it says, he who during the pre Islamic period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Hebrew letters. He would write from the gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadijah said to listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin. And then it says, he asked, o my nephew, what have you seen? Allah's messenger described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, this is the same one who keeps the secrets whom Allah had sent to Moses.

[Sam Shamoon]

You see his response. If what you're telling me is true then the same nammus that came to Moses has come to you. He confirmed Muhammad was a prophet like Moses. So if you believe this narration, a Christian monk or a Christian believer started Islam. If you believe that narration because Muhammad thought he was demon possessed, who convinced him that if what you tell me is true, you're not demon possessed, you're a prophet like Moses who a Christian, right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

But then it says Waraqa died. But now watch Waraqwari says to him now we'll bring it up, you'll see.

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, TV went out. One second.

[Sam Shamoon]

I'm telling you the genies are upset here people. As he gets it on the screen you're going to see Waraka says if I am alive I will help you against this people. And he goes why will these people turn against me? He goes yes. There hasn't been a person, a prophet who came with this message who hadn't been persecuted by his people. It says Waraka died and the revelation ceased and that caused Muhammad to get depressed. So as it comes on and so Muhammad, for those of you don't know what's going on, we're having technical issues. So the head, it's not on the screen. So Muhammad became suicidal. Every time he'd go to try to commit suicide it says the spirit would appear and encourage him saying no, I'm Gabriel and you're the messenger of Allah. So Islam started with Muhammad being emotionally, psychologically, spiritually violated and having a Christian convince him that wasn't a demon even though he initially thought it was a demon. And then every time he goes to end his life because he'd rather die than be demon possessed, the spirit appears to him and says no, I'm Gabriel, don't worry about it. And that began Muhammad's prophetic ambition. So it's right there. So here it says Waraka said, this is the same one who keeps the secrets, right, whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out. Allah's messenger asked, will they drive me out? Waraka replied in the affirmative and said anyone who came with something similar to what you have brought was treated with hostility. And if I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly. But after a few days Waraka died and the divine inspiration was also paused for a while. So other narrations bukhari will tell you because of that, he wanted to throw himself off a cliff. So this is the origin of Islam. The camera keep. The TV keeps going off. I don't.

[Bryce Crawford]

It's okay. We can just.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah, it's all right.

[Bryce Crawford]

You've got the whole thing memorized, so we can just.

[Sam Shamoon]

I don't know if they'll see it on the screen, but I want people understand we're not making anything up. They can go and fact check us with the Internet. But yeah, so that's the story of Islam.

[Bryce Crawford]

So then he. He pauses for a little bit. He. He's trying to take his life. This angel comes up. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm Gabriel. Don't take your life, bro. But really, I mean, from the conversations I've gotten to have with Avery and seeing the stuff online, when an angel interacts with anyone in scripture.

[Sam Shamoon]

Precisely you.

[Bryce Crawford]

Nothing like this is occurring at all.

[Sam Shamoon]

You'll find the repeated encouragement from God, the spirit, or an angel. For example, if you just go to Luke and supposedly this was Gabriel. Well, just start reading from Luke chapter one. Just read the chapter. Gabriel appears to Zechariah. Zechariah is afraid. Gabriel says, don't be afraid. Gabriel then appears to the Holy Mother, the blessed mother of our Lord Jesus Christ. He says, don't be afraid. Even when our Lord Jesus appears to John in glory. You go to Revelation 1:17, 18. He goes, When I saw him, I fell that his feet is dead. Fell as feet is dead. He placed his right hand upon me, said, do not be afraid. Do not be afraid. I'm the first, last. I am he who lives, the living one. I was dead. And behold, I live forevermore. And I hold the keys to death. And 80. So when a true God appears, or the Holy Spirit appears, or a righteous angel appears, they assuage your fears and doubts. They don't manhandle you. They don't squeeze you three times, making you fear for your life and thinking that this entity wants to kill me. That's demonic.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, that is demonic. And. And to think, I mean, how long did that go on before he just kind of like submits to this demon?

[Sam Shamoon]

Well, it. It happened. The sources say he struggled with this over a period of time, so let's assume less than a year. He's struggling with this because when the revelation, like you saw in the narration, says it stopped elsewhere in Bukhari, we're told that every time the revelation stopped, he would go to one of the mountain tops and want to throw himself off. So he did this repeatedly. So the spirit kept appearing repeatedly, and then finally it sets in and he believes. All right, then I'm not demon possessed. I must be a prophet. So if these narrations are true, because again, you have those who think that these are all concocted traditions and the historical Muhammad is nothing like the later Muhammad. Yeah, but my problem with that is that if you're making up a story about Muhammad, you would try to make him look much more sane and moral than these sources do. These sources show that he himself thought he was deranged, demon possessed, that he was losing his mind, wanted to kill himself, and he was grossly immoral. Well, if you're making up a story about a hero, the founder of religion, you would try to make him look like a superman and sugarcoat all of his mistakes.

[Bryce Crawford]

Right.

[Sam Shamoon]

So I don't know why someone would make up these details unless these are hostile sources that the Muslims were stupid enough to then accept as being actually authentic narrations.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

So I believe there's some kernel of truth that the historical Muhammad thought he was demon possessed. Now, he was right. He was right.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

If we compare with the biblical paradigm, no one experienced what he experienced.

[Bryce Crawford]

Absolutely.

[Sam Shamoon]

Unless they were demonized, but go ahead.

[Bryce Crawford]

Absolutely. So then he forms the Quran over time.

[Sam Shamoon]

Now, 23 years, they say, I've heard

[Bryce Crawford]

there's multiple different versions of this Quran.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

What can you. And that.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yep. Initially, according. These are again the traditions, authentic traditions of Islam. Sal Bukhari, you can go to volume six, number 509, 510. We're told that when Muhammad's companions wrote down what they learned directly from Muhammad, and when it was compiled, these are people who learned from Muhammad, they wrote down Qurans that were contradicting one another. So either Muhammad did a bad job or he chose a bunch of misfits. So traditions claim that to account for these differences, for example, Umar and Hisham, these were two Muslims. When they went to pray, Hisham was praying. Now, when Muslims pray, they'll usually recite portions of the Quran. He was reciting chapter 25, the Quran, the way he recited it. Umar heard it and was livid and angry because he thought he was misquoting it. But he contained himself until he finished the prayer. He goes. Then after the prayer, he then finally grabbed him by his robe, you know, throttled by the robe, and dragged him in anger. So went to Muhammad and mom's like, what's going on? He goes, this man recited chapter 25, the Quran differently from the way you taught it to me. So the Muhammad says to Isha Omar, I go recite. He goes, yeah, I taught you that. Umar is shocked. He goes, now you recite. He goes, yeah, I taught you that too. So they're both shocked. What do you mean? Now? They both spoke the same dialect. They both were from the same tribe, Qureshi tribe. So these were not different dialects. It was different wording. So Umar was shocked. What do you mean? The way you taught it to me doesn't sound like the way you taught it to him. And you're saying we're both right and you taught us both forms. He goes, yeah, because Gabriel revealed the Quran to me in seven and the word is Ahruf letters. Till this day, Muslim scholars don't know what he meant by that. There's over 35 explanations of what are the seven. Nobody knows. But we know they're not just dialectal differences. And the differences were so vast that his companions accused the others of corrupting the Quran and almost came to blows. So this is Islam. That's their sources. Now it gets a little worse. During the Caliphate of Uthman ibn Affan, around 650 AD, he purges the Quran. Why? Because according to Sahil Bukhari, volume 6 and the old numbering is 510 you guys can find on suna.com it says that when the Muslims went against Azerbaijan and Armenia, an attack, there were Muslims from Syria and Muslims from Iraq, part of the army. They almost came to blows and killed each other. The general name Hudhaifa sends word to Omar. He says, look, Omar, do something about the book of Allah, lest the Muslims go astray like the Jews and Christians did with their book. Why? Because the Syrians are reciting verse of the Quran that the Iraqis have never heard. So they're accusing them of corrupting the Quran. The Iraqis are reciting verses of the Quran that the Syrians haven't heard. So they're accusing them of corrupting the Quran. And they almost came to blows. Wow, that's Sal Bukhari, volume six, number five. 10. So what did Uthman do? He commissioned a man named Zayed. I know, I don't want to belabor the point, but I want people understand. Zayd ibn Thabit converted to Islam 13 years later after Muhammad went to Medina. He's not one of the original Muslims. He's called an Ansar, one of the helpers. Right. The ones who were originally with Muhammad, they're called the Muhajir, Muhajirin, Muhajirun, meaning those who migrated when Abu Bakr the first caliph, came into power. Now look how bad it gets. This is in sal Bukhari, Volume 6, Number 509. I know these details gonna put you to sleep. So, you know you need beauty sleep. Don't worry. You just sleep. Okay. I know there's more, but you asked me.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Abu Bakr, the Caliph. The first caliph was involved in what's called apostasy wars. Because when Muhammad died, a lot of Arabs apostatized. They left Islam, left the religion. Telling you they didn't convert out of pure motives. They convert out of compulsion. And some refused to give what they call Zakat alms giving. So Abu Bakr went to attack them, to rein them in and bring them back. Well, during one of these wars, the Battle of Yamama, Umar, who was the second caliph. Now, I don't want to confuse you. Abu Bakr is first caliph. Umar is the general of the army. Abu Bakr dies, Umar becomes the second caliph. Well, during Abu Bakr, as he's the caliph, Umar is the general of the army. And a lot of memorizers of the Quran were being killed. He panicked because they're the ones who memorize the Quran. If they die, those parts of the Quran they memorized went with them. So he sent word to Abu Bakr, do something. Compile the Quran between two covers. Because the loss of the memories of the Quran has been great this day. Compile it before we lose the Quran.

[Bryce Crawford]

Whoa.

[Sam Shamoon]

Okay. This is Sal Bukhari, Volume 6, Number 509. Abu Bakr says, you want me to do something that Allah's messenger did not do. Now you understand what that means? Let me repeat. He's telling to Abu Bakr, compile the Quran between two covers. Because they memorize of the Quran, a lot of them have been killed. And the Quran they memorized went with them. Do something. Lest we lose more of them, we lose the Quran. Abu Bakr says, you want me to do something that Allah's messenger did not do. So what did Muhammad not do?

[Bryce Crawford]

Bind the Quran into a book.

[Sam Shamoon]

That means as long as Muhammad is alive, the Quran was never compiled completely between two covers. It was scattered.

[Bryce Crawford]

Why? Just because he wasn't thorough?

[Sam Shamoon]

No, because as long as he's alive, there would be more revelation. So the assumption, as long as he's alive, there's going to be more revelation. So it was scattered. So then Abu Bakr was convinced. He told Zayed to go and find the Quran, search for it. Now, this story is another lie about the Muslims. They go, the Quran was completely memorized completely written down during Muhammad's lifetime. If so, why did he have to go and look for it? He went among the people. And the criterion was you have to have at least two individuals confirming that this is Quran. So it says he went until he found all of the Quran that he could except the last two verses of the Quran. 9, 128, 129. He only found with one man. Huzayma. Khuzayma. Only one man had it. Here's the problem. The criterion was you have to have two witnesses before you can add something. Khuzayma was the only one that had these verses. He goes, when I compiled it, I missed something. The last two verses of the Quran. So why did he include those last two verses if there was only one witness? You're supposed to have two witnesses, right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Right.

[Sam Shamoon]

But on the basis of one witness, he included the last two verses.

[Bryce Crawford]

Why he just compromised for it?

[Sam Shamoon]

Because they made up another tradition where Muhammad says, this man's witness is equal to two.

[Bryce Crawford]

What?

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah, that's in the tradition.

[Bryce Crawford]

That's. So I don't know this. When you look into the history. And I think, and I think if I'm being completely honest, one of the intimidations to me of Islam is not the content of Islam. When I'm thinking about, oh, I'm going to talk to a Muslim, the thing that kind of intimidates me is at least the videos you see online. They appear strong, they appear firm, they appear like, oh, oh, like I know better than you do. And it's almost like the way that the information is delivered, it's like they deliver it in a way where you're not going to be able to respond to this. So how are you? What kind of. I don't know. I guess for me, practically not even just for me, but for other people that are listening. Kind of like, how do we, when we're talking to Muslims, not get intimidated by their rhetoric?

[Sam Shamoon]

2nd Timothy 1:7 says, the Lord did not give you a spirit of timidity but a boldness, right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

And sound mind. And Romans 8:15, you haven't been handed over. Spirit of fear. Fear is a weapon of Satan. What happens when you get bullied and you don't stand up to the bully? He's bullying you, right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep.

[Sam Shamoon]

What happens when you stand up to the bully? Then you expose yellow belly. That's got a yellow streak, right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Muslims, because their religion starts from Saint Satan is a narcissist. Mama's a narcissist. Satan Loves control. Mom would love control. So what do narcissistic bullies do? They try to intimidate you, bully you, to control you. When you stand up to them, then you expose their cowardice, then their victim mentality comes to the forefront. The problem with Christians in the West, I don't know why or how this started. Christians in the west equate being Christian with being soft and effeminate. This is what I call the feminization of Christian men. I'm not trying to get into the red pill. I'm not. No, Andrew Tate, that's extreme. That's satanic. Nonetheless, there are some truths, and all lies. If you read the Bible carefully, look at early church history, the prophets and the apostles were not sissies, right? They were bold lions. And they would put people in their place. They'd even insult people and even curse people who deserved it. It's all throughout Scripture. But for some reason, something happened in Christian history where we did a 180, where now, if you're bold or rude or in someone's face, you're now considered unchristlike. Have you read how Jesus talked to the Pharisees and the scribes and the money changers?

[Bryce Crawford]

You brood of vices.

[Sam Shamoon]

He called them fools. And if you look at the words, idiots, stupid, he called them adulterers. And through the prophets, he said very graphic things about them. Right. So. But again, nonetheless. So my style, I'm very rude. I'm in your face, Casio. Now, sadly, I am extreme at times because I'm a sinner, but I balance out the other side. That's too weak and soft and timid. We need the balance of boldness, biblical masculinity for men. And not be intimidated by bullying tactics because you have the truth. They don't. So what they lack in substance, they make up with barking. And you got to see through that.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. Question, question. Then on top of that, I'm thinking of First Peter 3, 15, right? It says, you know in your hearts, honor Christ, your Lord is holy. And always be prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks for the hope and sacrifice.

[Sam Shamoon]

But notice the context. Whoever is asking you, give an apologetic, do so with gentleness, reverence. To whom? To those who ask you. What if they're not asking because they want to know? What if they're asking to bully you, intimidate you, to blaspheme. The same Peter then in Second Peter two, says to those people who are perverts and perverting gospel, he calls them wild beasts, good for nothing. But Destruction. And he calls them dogs and pigs who return to their vomit. That's St. Peter in second Peter 2. Interesting. So there is a balance. I know what? 1 Peter 3 but what's the context? Whoever asks you, well, what if they're not asking you to learn? What if they're trying to bully you, intimidate you? What if they're trying to censor you? What if they're trying to mock you? Then read how they treated such people. Like in Acts 13, 6, 12, where there was a false prophet, Elymas bar Jesus, who opposed Paul's preaching in order to hinder him because he was a sorcerer. Paul calls him son of the devil, enemy of all righteousness, and curse them with blindness. He called him you son of the devil, you enemy of all that is righteous. Does that sound like he was being gentle?

[Bryce Crawford]

No, no, that does not sound like that. I guess one of the things that I. Well, first of all, let me say this. I'm right there with you on this side of like feminine. And so it's too much. You do have a balance. I'm right there with you. I think the thing that like is hard for me sometimes, particularly with like Islam, is that issue. You run into a lot of them, they don't want to learn, they want to get a gotcha on you. Well, that's what I'm. Is it. Is it throwing pearls onto swine? Is it? So then here's my follow up question to that. Is there. And this is all me just genuinely asking, trying to understand, is there a time and place to then throw pearls onto swan?

[Sam Shamoon]

No, you never have a time and place though. What you do is what Paul did when he saw Elymas wasn't interested. What did he do? He cursed him and ridiculed him. That's their treatment. You son of the devil, enemy of all that is righteousness, you will not stop perverting the ways of the Lord. He didn't even entertain him to talk. He cursed him. When I say curse, not like curse like F word, F. No, no, that's not what I'm talking about. He rebuked him and invoked God's judgment on him. That's what I mean by curse.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Not like, hey, your mother. You know I'm not saying that.

[Bryce Crawford]

Right, right.

[Sam Shamoon]

So when you see those people, you are to rebuke them, chasten them, block them and remove them. To engage them is to do what Jesus says don't do. Because they're not there to listen. They're there to click bait. They're there for clips. They're there for numbers and money. And so you are now being used by their father, the devil, to allow them to blaspheme the Lord, mock the Lord, attack the Bible, ridicule Christians and cause weak Christians lose their faith. So you're complicit.

[Bryce Crawford]

Very interesting.

[Sam Shamoon]

Wow. Complicit.

[Bryce Crawford]

So then what is the. I guess like. Yeah, that's very fascinating. So then is there. Does the Bible then say there is a purpose for exposing.

[Sam Shamoon]

Then does the Bible Talk Ephesians 5:11 Expose the deeds of darkness. But exposing what they do in their tactics is one thing. Engaging them in just, you know, a shouting match or engaging them when you know they're not listening and they're going to talk over you, then what's the purpose in that? There is no purpose. In fact, you know what Titus 3:10 11 says after the first or second warning? Avoid a heretic, a contentious person. After how many warnings?

[Bryce Crawford]

Two.

[Sam Shamoon]

So why do we keep doing it? That's Titus 3:10 to 11. Do you have your Bible? Look at it. I don't know if you have it.

[Bryce Crawford]

I've got it outside of my backpack

[Sam Shamoon]

if you want to put on screen brother Bible Gateway.com homie great website. Yep it is. I use that Bible Gateway.com Titus 3:1011 Titus 3:10-11 warn a divisive person once

[Bryce Crawford]

and then warn them a second time after that having have nothing to do with them. You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful. They are selfish.

[Sam Shamoon]

So why do you keep engaging them?

[Bryce Crawford]

Totally understand. I guess, I guess another follow up question then is the language, the language that you've described in the Bible Paul using to these people even church.

[Sam Shamoon]

I gave you a very clean example. If I show you how graphic it gets.

[Bryce Crawford]

Well even. Well I even know like even the early church fathers like they would address heretics like very graphically, very graphically and very intensely. I'm right there with you. Something that I'm trying to understand I guess is you have the Bible who would describe as human beings as a whole being of a different moral value because they're made in the image of God.

[Sam Shamoon]

The same Jesus who said their image of God who called them dogs and pigs.

[Bryce Crawford]

Well that's what I was going to ask you. That's my question is. So then is you is calling someone a dog or a pig or.

[Sam Shamoon]

Okay, well you answer the question. Jesus who created them in his image, he says they're dogs and pigs. So answer that. I don't know.

[Bryce Crawford]

That's fascinating to me.

[Sam Shamoon]

Matthew 7:6. Bring it up for my friend here. So you can't take Scripture because a person can corrupt themselves to such an extent, they now efface that image of God within them, and they're worse than beasts and animals. What did Jesus say not to do?

[Bryce Crawford]

Do not give dogs what is sacred. Do not throw your pros.

[Sam Shamoon]

Who are the dogs that he's talking about?

[Bryce Crawford]

The Pharisees. Right.

[Sam Shamoon]

But what are they? What are their nature?

[Bryce Crawford]

They're people.

[Sam Shamoon]

Humans. Human.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep.

[Sam Shamoon]

You just said they're creating image of God. So Jesus created. Called his image bearers dogs and pigs.

[Bryce Crawford]

I guess so.

[Sam Shamoon]

Well, you're guessing. It's right there, brother.

[Bryce Crawford]

I'm just so. I'm. That's what's confusing to me is because.

[Sam Shamoon]

Why is it confusing to you, man? The Lord's telling you.

[Bryce Crawford]

Well, I'm.

[Sam Shamoon]

I. No. Some image bearers of mine. They're worse than animals. They've corrupted themselves to such an extent.

[Bryce Crawford]

Gotcha.

[Sam Shamoon]

They are now dogs and sons of Satan.

[Bryce Crawford]

Gotcha.

[Sam Shamoon]

Reprobation.

[Bryce Crawford]

It's not. It's that they have corrupted themselves. I see. Okay.

[Sam Shamoon]

All right. In fact, here, if you open up the screen, my brother from a different mother, which your screen keeps going, going off. Rebuke that demon by the power of Jesus Christ. Okay. It's. This is language all throughout Scripture. It's not only Jesus saying they're dogs and pigs. So when it comes up, you'll see. Peter, what did I just say? What did he say about those who heard the gospel of truth, walked in the gospel of truth but then fell away and perverted for heresy. You're going to see what he calls them. So now here it says, do not give. Do not give dogs what is sacred. And that's niv. It's a little more of a paraphrase. Do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet and turn and tear you to pieces. Now open up Second Peter, chapter two. Second Peter, chapter two. Just right here you're going to see those who came to faith, who were saved, who were bought by the Lord, who acknowledged the Lord, but then they fell away to introduce damnable heresies or licentiousness, meaning using the race of God as an excuse to live immorally. Well, look how Peter describes them. If the screen keeps shutting off, then we're not going to look at second Peter 2.

[Bryce Crawford]

Doesn't it say their faith is counted as unrighteousness?

[Sam Shamoon]

No. Second Peter 2 is saying it's not about those who came to knowledge of truth. You may need your Bible because their screen does keep shutting down. I don't know what you want to do. Yeah, brothers. Brothers. You want us to pay you for a better screen? Stuck for Allah. Oh, Ziba. Look, brother, it's recording. You see? This is what happens live. This television set sucks. Keeps shutting down. What did you do Muslims do? Are you a plant? Did they send you here?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

You. Jihad. Are you all right? Yeah. Just get your Bible, brother, because it's not going to work. Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

Thank you, man. I appreciate you.

[Sam Shamoon]

Jihad, brother. Make sure you leave this interview raw and unedited. Good man. Jihad. They sent this guy. Fisa bil Allah. His name is Abdul Rahman. Abdul al aswad. Okay, okay.

[Bryce Crawford]

Second Peter 2 Peter 2. Starting verse 1.

[Sam Shamoon]

Verse 1. What do they do?

[Bryce Crawford]

But false prophets also arose among the people. Just as there will be false teachers among you who will be secretly bringing in destructive heresies.

[Sam Shamoon]

False teachers. Right.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep.

[Sam Shamoon]

And what are they going to introduce?

[Bryce Crawford]

Heresies.

[Sam Shamoon]

Heresies. Okay, so when you denying even the very Lord that bought them. Right. Okay. Now what does he say they're good for? Verse 12.

[Bryce Crawford]

It says in verse 12. But these like irrational animals, creatures of.

[Sam Shamoon]

They're irrational animals. Yeah. They're worse than even tame dogs. They're like gray beat dogs.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. It says, scavengers that blaspheming about matters of which they are ignorant will also be destroying in their destruction. Suffering wrong is the rage for the.

[Sam Shamoon]

So you see? Second Peter 2:12. One more time. Read that again slowly. See?

[Bryce Crawford]

But these like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed,

[Sam Shamoon]

also he says they should be destroyed. Peter says that about image bearers of God.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. That's very fascinating.

[Sam Shamoon]

Now read 20 to 22.

[Bryce Crawford]

I love to. You said read 2022.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

For if after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome. The last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of the righteousness than after knowing it, to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. What the true proverb says has happened to them. The dog returns to its own vomit.

[Sam Shamoon]

So they're nothing but rabied dogs who eat their own vomit. And then what else are they?

[Bryce Crawford]

It says. And the. So after washing herself, returns to wallow.

[Sam Shamoon]

They're dirty pigs, Peter.

[Bryce Crawford]

Interesting. So I guess. I guess my. My. My final question on that subject is.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

How do you determine what Language to use.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah, well, I don't do it perfectly. So I'm not infallible, I'm not inspired. So there are times I acknowledge I cross the line. Do I want to? No. But myself, because I'm a sinner, imperfect, I have my own ticks. Meaning there are certain things that trigger me because I'm weak. I know when someone deserves to be rebuked. Because they don't come to ask, to learn. They're coming to attack and mock by the nature of the question. Because either they will not answer the question, or when you go to answer the question, they're already cutting you off. That means right there, they're there to try to prove you're wrong. And I understand, because I do that to Muslims. I don't ask to learn. I ask to show them why Islam is false. But because I already know the argument and I'm trying to answer when they cut me off, then they show that they're not there to listen. So I'll either block them, get rid of them. But if they get nasty, then Proverbs 20 is here. If you don't know how to interpret Scripture, line of Scripture, you're going to create contradictions when there are none. Because in Proverbs 26, 4 and 5, those two verses contradict each other.

[Bryce Crawford]

Right?

[Sam Shamoon]

They contradict each other. Proverbs 26, 45. Why? Because if you go to Proverbs 26, verses 4 and 5, don't answer a fool according to his folly, lest you become like him. It's Proverbs 26:4.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep.

[Sam Shamoon]

Do not answer a fool according to his folly, according to his stupidity, foolishness, because then you'll be like him. Right? That's verse four. Look at it. Says that. Right.

[Bryce Crawford]

Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him, and lest you be like him yourself.

[Sam Shamoon]

But verse five contradicts that. Says, answer a fool according to his

[Bryce Crawford]

folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.

[Sam Shamoon]

So that's a contradiction. No, it isn't. Because the Bible tells you it's not black and white. There are times in which you ignore an idiot, times in which you expose the need to show how stupid he is. Why? So people can see he's stupid? Because he may influence people who think he's smart, but he's stupid and he's dangerous. So then you got to expose them for the sake of the flock. So that comes with discernment. Yeah, but none of us have perfect discernment. And that's why I've offended people. But if you actually look at it. What's ironic? The language I use is all in scripture. People haven't watched my live stream. So you don't know what I'm talking about when I say whore. That's Revelation 17, the whore of Babylon and all her daughters are whores. It's the word whore. Or for example, dog or pig or stupid. That's Matthew 23:17. Jesus called them stupid. If you look at the word fool, it means stupid. So it's ironic. I use biblical language, they don't know it because of this feminization of Christian men. And I said, well, hold on, I was just reading the Bible. I just read Matthew 23:17. Yeah, but you're not Jesus. But you're telling me imitate Jesus, right? Oh, only imitate Jesus in the places you like. I see. So for example, bastard. Hebrews 12:8. It says if God doesn't discipline you and the word is the, you're a bastard. Hebrews 12:8. Why it's there in the Bible, man. Yeah, and if you look at the Hebrew and Greek idioms, it's much more graphic than in English. English, they soften it down. Don't believe me? Just look at any comment. And I'm not here talking about justify. I'm just saying to answer your question, for example, would you be shocked if a man of God said I'm going to take the of a dog and smear it on your face?

[Bryce Crawford]

I think at initial hand.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah, you would, right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

You have an issue with God telling Malachi, Malachi 2, 3. He says, Go tell the priest, I'm going to take the of their animals and smear on their faces. It's literally the Hebrew Malachi two, three.

[Bryce Crawford]

That's very interesting.

[Sam Shamoon]

So you have a problem with Malachi, so why don't you get out of your Bible?

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow, that's interesting.

[Sam Shamoon]

Malachi two, three. Because the priests were offering. Malachi is right before Matthew.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep.

[Sam Shamoon]

The priests were offering defective sacrifices of defective animals and they knew better. You know what he said? I'm going to take this. Go read the Hebrew word. It's what's in their intestine. The. The dung. Oh yeah, the crap. And I'm going to smear the crap on your faces.

[Bryce Crawford]

Behold, I will rebuke your offspring and spread dung on your face.

[Sam Shamoon]

What is done, brother?

[Bryce Crawford]

Dung off your offsprings.

[Sam Shamoon]

What is that? What is that?

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, it's poop.

[Sam Shamoon]

So you just told me you had a problem with your Bible.

[Bryce Crawford]

That's so fascinating. I guess you're right. I guess you you never really hear, you won't hear about that language.

[Sam Shamoon]

You do.

[Bryce Crawford]

You brought up that, that, that quote, unquote contradiction. We obviously know it's not a concept to the context of the scriptures. There was one I heard the other day, just briefly watching a Muslim apologist online saying, oh, look at this contradiction in the Bible. So I'm going to butcher it. But he said that this king reigned at this time.

[Sam Shamoon]

Isaiah 22:42.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, yeah, that's because.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah, transcriptional error. But brother, these are what I call. And there's an answer. For example, I've even on my blog, I have an answer, an answering Islam blog. That's what they call a transcription letter. Because there are certain manuscripts. And by the way, for those who don't know what's Hanabad, if you read in the Book of Kings and you compare in Chronicles it says Ahaziah was 20, 20 reign, another place says 42. That's very simple to answer. There are manuscripts that have the correct number for in both 22. There are some manuscripts that have 42 at discrepancy. But that's common sense. Why? Because in Hebrew, letters represent numbers. They don't have numbers. So a letter represents a number. So if you have Aleph, that's one. All this tells us is that there are certain scribes that must have misread a letter thinking that it wasn't two, it was four. And because of that brought in the wrong number. The number would be 22. Right. Why? Because the parallel has 22. The other has some manuscripts that say 42, 22. So there's a discrepancy. Some ancient versions read correctly 22. So then that means, if we're being honest, this is simply what we call a copyist mistake. And that happens when a Muslim nitpicks on this and trying to answer them. See, this again shows people don't know how to evangelize Muslims. Why a Muslim's not asking because he wants to know the answer. Because even if you give him a very solid answer that's based on facts, unless he believes every copyist that copied even the Quran, let alone the Bible, must have been inspired by God to make sure they produce flawless copies, which they know is not the case. Because the extent manuscripts of the Quran have thousands of variants, which we never got to, we didn't finish, then this is an argument. Not because he wants to know the answer, because he knows humans will make mistakes in the transmission when they're copying from one, let's say text to another prior to the Printing press. This is a fact. But then how do we know the Bible's preserved? The way the Bible is preserved is that the Lord moved the people to make mass copies in the thousands of these individual books. That's how we know that there is a discrepancy. Because there's some copies that will have 2242, but the parallel has 22. So now when we assess it, all right, that means these individual there made a mistake, they misread the Hebrew. So then we know what the original is. It's 22. But we wouldn't know this if we didn't have a plethora of manuscripts where no one individual, no one person had control of all the manuscripts to then edit them and corrupt them the way he wanted, then send them to the masses. That never happened.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

So the Bible from its inception was being mass copied and spread over the world. That's how God preserved all the original wording of the original autographs in the extent manuscripts. Because your copy, let's say in California and California is huge. Let's say Turlock copy of John, John 1:18 says only begotten son. But then there's another copy in Turlock that says only begotten God. Then there's a copy in la, it says so because the copies are spread all over, no one person can collect them and corrupt them. So that means even if you corrupted your manuscript, whether intentionally or not, you got a thousand other copies of that same chapter that read differently. So we could spot the differences and know what the original is.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

That's just a fact.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

It's not just transmission of the Bible. Any book prior to the printing press that has been hand copied has variant readings. The more copies, the more variants, the less copies, the less variance. What does that mean? So if I only have five copies of a particular book, because there are only five, they'll have fewer variants among them. But what if I have a thousand copies of that one book? How many more variants do you think we'll have?

[Bryce Crawford]

Way more.

[Sam Shamoon]

Why? Because the more copies, the more differences. Because you have more copyists and copyists don't copy the same way.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

So common sense tells you if I have a thousand copies of a particular book, then I'm going to have a lot more variants because no two copyists among the thousand copy the same way. Yeah, but if I have fewer copies, then the variants are not as much because I don't have as many. Yeah, that's true of any book, not just the Bible. Ask any textual critic of any work of antiquity, even of medieval period, prior to the print. If you have more than one copy of a book, is there any book out there where if it has more than one copy that has no variants, they'll say, no, they all have variants. And some of the copies are fragmentary. So we don't even. Yeah, this is just the fact. So when a Muslim brings it up, he's not interested in the answer. He wants to cause you to lose faith. So then why engage them? Because when you answer one contradiction, he's going to bring another, and he's going to bring another. He's not interested. So what I do is there's two ways to cure something. You either cure the symptoms, but the problem doesn't go away. Right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Right.

[Sam Shamoon]

Or you attack the problem, destroy the problem, and the symptoms disappear.

[Bryce Crawford]

Right.

[Sam Shamoon]

So what you're addressing is symptoms, and you're going to keep addressing it. I go to the root cause and I destroy the root. I destroy the problem, erase, and all the symptoms will go away. So then what do I tell the Muslim when they bring up the contradictions? I said, well, if you're right, the Bible's contradictory, then I can never be a Muslim. And you prove Muhammad is a liar. What do you mean? Because you're a Muslim, you believe Muhammad. You believe what Muhammad said. Muhammad confirmed the books of the Jews and Christians. And the time that he supposedly preached Islam, he confirmed those books are the uncorrupt preserved words of God. But you're telling me they're not because they have contradictions. That means you know more than Allah, you know more than your God because your God had Muhammad say those books and the possessions of Christians confirm they are true. They're from God, they're authoritative, they're preserved, and you need to use them to judge the truth of the Quran. But you're telling me Allah made a mistake or Muhammad didn't know what he's talking about, so I can never become a Muslim.

[Bryce Crawford]

Whoa. And that was. And what you're referring to is it saying the Torah and the angel.

[Sam Shamoon]

This is what we call the Islamic dilemma. Oh, this Islamic dilemma has been the nightmare of Muslims. In fact, the last couple of months, Avery debated a Muslim on the Islamic dilemma. Schooled him, slaughtered him. Others have, too. You know, you have David Wood and others. This is what we call the Islamic dilemma. Damn if you do. Damn if you don't. I'll give you an example of how the Islamic dilemma works. As a Christian, you believe in the New Testament from COVID to cover, right? Yep. As a Christian, can you say the Old Testament is full of lies and immorality and genocide?

[Bryce Crawford]

Well, you can because it's in there like that described.

[Sam Shamoon]

So if you can, that means that Jesus's view of the Old Testament is wrong. He was immoral. So Jesus confirmed it. So then you're not a Christian. Jesus confirmed the Old Testament? Yeah, he did. So you just said he confirmed immorality and genocide.

[Bryce Crawford]

Well, that's different because he's like. He's like. He's describing what's going on.

[Sam Shamoon]

No, he doesn't. He says he comes to fulfill the law and the prophets.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yes. And that that stuff did occur. Right.

[Sam Shamoon]

So it did occur. But when God tells the Israelites to wipe out the Canaanites, you're saying they made it up and Jesus just going with it?

[Bryce Crawford]

No, I don't say. I don't think they made it up.

[Sam Shamoon]

So then when God says wipe out the Canaanites, as a Christian, what's your position?

[Bryce Crawford]

That God was being a just God, and we just have to trust that he was just.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah, but no, I'm saying it's genocide. I'm saying it's evil. So how are you going to respond to me?

[Bryce Crawford]

I actually don't know how I would respond.

[Sam Shamoon]

Exactly. So you got to learn the basics of your faith more than interested in Islam. See why I said, when I began this, what was my focus?

[Bryce Crawford]

To equip believers?

[Sam Shamoon]

Not so much refuting Islam. So what, I refute Islam? How does that then answer your objections and doubts about what you find in the Bible?

[Bryce Crawford]

Right.

[Sam Shamoon]

Okay. Now my point in bringing this up is I'm stuck with the Old Testament. Why? Because Jesus told me I'm stuck with the Old Testament. So I cannot be a faithful Christian, faithful to Christ and call that genocide. Because I'm saying that Jesus is endorsing genocide.

[Bryce Crawford]

Right.

[Sam Shamoon]

And that means he's a moral monster. Is that what I want to say? I can't say that. All right, so to ask the question again, in light of Jesus confirming the Old Testament, do you have the option of questioning its morality and condemning it and rejecting it?

[Bryce Crawford]

No.

[Sam Shamoon]

Why not?

[Bryce Crawford]

Because you're. You're just trusting that what God did was righteous, true, and just.

[Sam Shamoon]

Why do I have to believe this Old Testament is from God?

[Bryce Crawford]

Because Jesus said he came not to

[Sam Shamoon]

abolish the law, to. That's the Christian dilemma. I cannot reject the Old Testament because Jesus forced me to accept it. That's the Christian dilemma. So you and I are stuck now with the Old Testament scratching our head. How do we make sense of it. And by the way, glory to Jesus Christ. God rewards faith. If you take a step of faith, say, look, God, I'm going to take you at your word. This is your book. You are perfect. Lovingly and just and merciful. Compassion, loving. I don't know how to figure this out. I don't know how to make sense out of it. But I trust you and I know there is a reason. Then he'll give you the answer. Then it's going to make sense. I mean, obviously it's not time to do it. There are answers and he's, oh, okay, wow. Okay. So I misunderstood this. Wow. It shows how beautiful God is. Wow. It shows his heart. But my point was, this is a Christian dilemma. I'm stuck. I gotta believe the Old Testament. Now, if Jesus never bound me the Old Testament, I would never read it or pick it up a day in my life. I wouldn't waste my time with it. But the point is, you cannot reject the Old Testament and be a faithful Christian following the New Testament. This is the Islamic dilemma. What Jesus did for you and me bound us to the Old Testament. Muhammad did to the Muslims. He bound them to the Bible. That's the Islamic dilemma. Learn it. Muhammad said Jews and Christians, here's the proof that I'm a prophet. I confirm what you have to be from God and you use them to judge that this Quran is from God. So when a Muslim tells me the Bible is corrupt, he's saying the Quran is lying. The Quran told me it can't be corrupt because the Bible will be the criterion for the Jews and Christians to determine the truth of the Quran. So if you tell me it's corrupt, but the Quran tells me one of the proofs that it's from God is that it agrees with my Scriptures. These are the words of God, preserved authoritative in the sense that I am to judge by them to determine the truth of Muhammad, then either Muhammad is right and you're wrong, the Bible's not corrupt, or if he's wrong and you're right, then not only are you telling me not to be a Christian, you're telling me don't even become a Muslim because he believes in my Bible, which you reject. So anytime you bring up a contradiction, I'm gonna say, wait, was Muhammad wrong? Why you just told me these books that Muhammad confirmed? Because these are the only books they had with the variant readings 22 and 42. They had it?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Some copies read 2242. Did Muhammad not know about these contradictions? If you Say yes, he still confirmed them, then you're in trouble, baby. But if you're telling me he didn't know, you're in trouble, baby.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Either way, you're in trouble.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

See, this is how you do it. So what did I do? I didn't deal with the symptom because then I got to deal with this symptom, that symptom that I went to the root and I destroyed it, nuked it. And that's how you're supposed to do it.

[Bryce Crawford]

And then. And then with the ngo, that's just the Gospel, right?

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah. NGO would be the gospel given to Jesus. But the Quran assumes that it exists, existed at time Muhammad because it says, to judge by it, chapter 5, verse 47, and it says the gospel that's with them 7157, and even quotes the parable of Mark, Mark 4:27 28, and chapter 4829 of the Quran and calls that the Gospel. There's a parable only found in Mark uttered by Our Lord, Mark 4:2029 that is quoted in the Quran 4829 saying, and in the gospel, this is their likeness. So identifies this parable as part of the gospel of Jesus Christ, Mark 4:27, 28. You'll see it. But if you want to read 26:29

[Bryce Crawford]

for the context, I'll read it. Mark 26:29. The Kingdom of God is as if a man should scatter seed on the ground. He sleeps and rises night and day, and the seed sprouts and grows. He knows not how the earth produces by itself. First the blade, then the ear, then the full grain in the ear. But when the grain is ripe at once, he puts in the sickle because the harvest has come.

[Sam Shamoon]

Okay, so you see, that parable is only found in Mark. Now, if he opens up the Quran 4829, if he goes to the Crown Browser. Founds Crown Browser. Whatever you can find online because there's not anyone that's Sunnah, not Sunnah. Find a Crown Browser. If you go Google, put Crown browser. Yeah, open up whatever you can find. It's right there. I think it came up the first one. Go to 48, find chapter 48 of the Quran. Oh, you found it already. Man, that was fast. Shoot. Go to 29. That was pretty good, man. You impressed me all the way to 29. Now you remember what you just read?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep.

[Sam Shamoon]

All right, so when he gets to 29, read for me. 28. Go down right there. Read it for me.

[Bryce Crawford]

Muhammad is the messenger of Allah and those with him are firm with the disbelievers and compassionate with one another. You see them bowing and prostrating in prayer, seeking Allah's bounty and pleasure. The sign of brightness can be seen on their faces from the trace of prostrating and prayer. This is their description in the Torah. And their parable in the Gospels is that of a seed that sprouts its tiny branches, making it strong.

[Sam Shamoon]

Did you not just read that in Mark 4, 27, 28?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, we did just read.

[Sam Shamoon]

You just read that in Mark 4, 2728. Right.

[Bryce Crawford]

It sounds a little different.

[Sam Shamoon]

It's in a translation issue. Brother, you might hang myself. Okay, read it again, brother. Their parable in the Gospel is that of a seed that sprouts tiny branches, making it strong. Then it becomes thick, standing firmly on its stem to the delight of the planters. We read Mark 4, 2728 one more time. He says you're going over a translation that you think reads differently. Read Mark 4:27, 28.

[Bryce Crawford]

He sleeps and rises night and day, and the seed sprouts and grows. He knows not how the earth produces by itself. First the blade, then the ear, then the full grain in the ear.

[Sam Shamoon]

And their parable in the Gospel is that of a seed that sprouts and tiny branches. Now, the word tiny, forget about a branch, it's making its own. Then it comes to extending firmly on its stem to the light of the planters. I know you're like man, but it's got to be word for word, brother. This is Arabic. That's Greek.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep.

[Sam Shamoon]

The point is, this Gospel contains this parable, but it's quoting it in Arabic. You have it in Greek, and on top of that, you have an English translation. That's more of a paraphrase than it's literal. If I asked you, do you have anything that sounds like that in the Gospel, what would you tell me?

[Bryce Crawford]

I would say, yes.

[Sam Shamoon]

The only place is Mark 4, 27, 28. Now, I see it has a number there right after the planners. Can you click on it, see what said planners? There's a number four.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, right there.

[Sam Shamoon]

All right, let's see if I have a footnote. It tells you mark 4, 26, 28 at the bottom, at the end.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Now, this Muslim translation said What? In Matthew 13, 3, 9, Jesus spoke many things, some parables saying, behold, the sower went out to sow. Now a seed fell on the ground, good soil, yielding a crop, some 100 full, some 60, some 30. He was here. Let him hear or the parable of the growing seed in Mark 4, 26, 28, 28. Who told you where to find this parable?

[Bryce Crawford]

The Quran.

[Sam Shamoon]

But the note is from whom?

[Bryce Crawford]

Matthew and Mark.

[Sam Shamoon]

No, the note. The note that told you where to find it. Is this a Christian site?

[Bryce Crawford]

No, this is Muhammad, not Muhammad.

[Sam Shamoon]

That's the Quran. The note, brother. The footnote. Muhammad didn't write the footnote number four, right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. Who did write that?

[Sam Shamoon]

The translators, the Muslims.

[Bryce Crawford]

Whoa.

[Sam Shamoon]

So what did the Muslim tell you?

[Bryce Crawford]

Go look in the Bible and you're

[Sam Shamoon]

gonna find it in Mark.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Did you understand the connection?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yes.

[Sam Shamoon]

I want to shave your head for Allah and his messenger. Oh, my God. It's like him. Okay, it just told you that at the time, Muhammad, whatever gospel there was, it had this parable that is still found in Mark 4. So they just told you that the Quran is quoting Mark 4:27 28 for the larger context, 26:29 as the gospel. That was their time, Muhammad, because the gospel is there. It's saying, look, you want to know their likeness? You want to see the likeness of the Muslims in the gospel? Well, here the gospel says this, and then the translator saying, here's where you're going to find it. Mark 4. Here it says 2628. It's 2629. But specifically it's 2728 nonetheless. So the gospel of Jesus according to Muhammad was there at the time of Muhammad. They had it. They were to judge by it. It was with them. So then you have to ask the Muslims, historically, what is the gospel they had? This is now an issue of history. You got to look into history. What is the historical data that tells us what gospel the Christians reading at time Muhammad? Now, when you look at history, what would the answer be? What did they have at the time of Muhammad?

[Bryce Crawford]

They would have the same gospel.

[Sam Shamoon]

You got it. They had your Bible.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

This is Islamic dilemma. When Christians know how to master this argument and present it correctly and not get stuck, stumped and confused because a lot of Christians don't even know how to present it. So they get stumped. Oh, he stopped me. Well, because you didn't get the point.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Once you learn this argument, you learn how to use it. There's no way for them to get around it. Now they're going to ignore you or dox you and threaten you because they can't refute you. Because the Quran says the Bible that the Jews and Christians had are the words of God preserved by God to be used by Jews and Christians to judge the Truth of the Quran. Well, that's the problems, because my Bible says that your Quran is not from God. My Bible says Muhammad is an antichrist. So if I do what the Quran tells me to do, I gotta reject Muhammad. Yeah, but if you tell me the Bible is corrupt, I gotta reject Muhammad because he told me the Bible's not corrupt. This is Islamic dilemma.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow. Okay, let me repeat back to you kind of just so I know that I'm tracking. So they say that, oh, the Bible's. The Bible's got errors. The Bible's got errors. And, and the Torah and the angel confirmed the Quran. So it's like, o, the Quran with

[Sam Shamoon]

the, with the Islamic dilemma.

[Bryce Crawford]

And so this is what it says. They said, well, the Bible's corrupt. Well, if the Bible's corrupt, Quran is corrupt.

[Sam Shamoon]

You got it.

[Bryce Crawford]

But then if the Bible is not corrupt, Quran is still corrupt.

[Sam Shamoon]

Because our Bible would say, islamic dilemma.

[Bryce Crawford]

Buddy, let's go.

[Sam Shamoon]

That's the Islamic master that. Okay, go watch the debates that Avery you had, because you interviewed him, the

[Bryce Crawford]

most recent one, he just, he just

[Sam Shamoon]

had a debate with Jake on Islamic dilemma. He schooled him. It was bad.

[Bryce Crawford]

So I, I, I saw some clips from it and it was, yeah, they just kind of don't know what to say. So. Okay, I've got a few more questions concerning Islam for at least another hour, I guess. Yeah, I think. Shoot. Yeah, we're chilling.

[Sam Shamoon]

We're chilling like a villain.

[Bryce Crawford]

So first question I got right now off the top of my brain is with Paul. I've seen quite a few objections recently online. They're like, oh, it's not.

[Sam Shamoon]

Guys, can you take a picture on, see, because I'm starting to lose the £40 again. I want to see if I look lying.

[Bryce Crawford]

They say that this Christianity that we have is just Paul. Christianity. It's not true. That's what I'm seeing online. What is that issue? Can you explain that?

[Sam Shamoon]

They have to find a scapegoat because the Quran says if now the screen is good for working. Good man. Shoot. You got rid of that genie. If you go to chapter three, verse 52, the Quran and 5:11, it says that Jesus followers are Muslims. 352. 52. Well, Quran. All right.

[Bryce Crawford]

Bam.

[Sam Shamoon]

Want to read it for us?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, who will stand up with me for Allah? The disciples replied, we will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah. So bear witness that we have submitted now.

[Sam Shamoon]

So bear witness that we have submitted. The word submitted means Muslim. Bear witness. We're Muslim. So the Quran tells them Jesus followers are Muslims. If they're Muslims, then they, they'll teach the same message of Islam. Right?

[Bryce Crawford]

They should if that's the case.

[Sam Shamoon]

But what do we find? New Testament doesn't sound like Islam.

[Bryce Crawford]

Right.

[Sam Shamoon]

So they got to find a guilty party. Either they're going to deny that Peter, James and John are Jesus disciples. Historically, they can't do that.

[Bryce Crawford]

Right?

[Sam Shamoon]

Possible. Or they're going to have to find someone whom they think hijack corrupt Christianity. So then they go to Paul because Paul wasn't a disciple of Christ when Christ walked the earth. He comes later. Go, okay, he's the scapegoat. It must have been him because after all the 27 books of New Testament, 14 have been attributed to Paul. Well, I say 14 because historically Hebrews was attributed to Paul. That's half your New Testament. Yeah, right. If you half.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Paul gave you half of your New Testament. He's been the most influential Christian on the church, more so than the other apostles. So he's the one who corrupted Christianity. He's the one who changed the message of Christ. So that's why they do it. They got a problem. This is part of the Islamic dilemma. If Paul corrupted Christianity, then that means Islam is false again. Because there are two promises in the Quran. And we have articles on my blog and also we've done sessions on it. Chapter 3, verse 55. The Quran. If the screen goes up, he brings it up. I don't know. And chapter 61, verse 14. Screen went out again. 355, right? Yep. There it says, by the way, your screen is not on, guys. There it says, allah said to Jesus. Oh Jesus, I am going to cause you to die and raise you to myself. And I'll make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve. Till the day of Resurrection. So what's the promise? What did Allah say to Jesus supposedly, Isa, I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve. So what's the promise? Who's going to be victorious? Who's going to win?

[Bryce Crawford]

The believers, right? Yep.

[Sam Shamoon]

And then he says, till the day of resurrection. I don't know if he has it up.355. If he has it up is up. We're going to do what we can till the day of Resurrection. So Allah says, I want to take you to me. But don't worry, those who believe in you will be superior, uppermost, dominant over disbelievers. Till the day of Resurrection, Right? Till day of Resurrection. By the Way, brother, if you get it up before the Rapture, so we don't leave you behind. Oh, Isabel, are you going to give him a discount for renting this place? You gonna get a discount now?

[Bryce Crawford]

He said 355.

[Sam Shamoon]

355, yes. I love this guy, brother. It's like, dude, man, we never had a guy like this, so. Well, hey, man, the guy's running out of time. Remember when Allah said, oh, Isa Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve and elevate your followers above disbelievers? Until the Day of Resurrection, Day of judgment. So who won?

[Bryce Crawford]

The believers.

[Sam Shamoon]

And how long will they remain victorious?

[Bryce Crawford]

Until the Day of Resurrection.

[Sam Shamoon]

Okay, now, if he brings up 61:14 before the screen goes up, it says, allah kept his word, 6114. Allah kept his word, 6114. So watch here. Oh, believers, stand up for Allah. As Jesus, son of Mary, asked the disciples, who will stand up with me for Allah? Disciples replied, we will stand up for Allah. Then a group from the children of Israel believed, while another disbelieved. We then supported the believers against their enemies. So they prevailed. So who prevailed?

[Bryce Crawford]

The believers.

[Sam Shamoon]

And how long will they prevail?

[Bryce Crawford]

Till the Day of Resurrection.

[Sam Shamoon]

But if the Muslims are right, Paul destroyed their message and defeated them. So what does that mean for the Quran now?

[Bryce Crawford]

It's false. So everything really stems back to this dilemma.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yep.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

If Paul corrupted Christianity, that means either your God, Allah lied, or he was too powerful for your God. So Paul is greater than Allah.

[Bryce Crawford]

Whoa. And then that's committing.

[Sam Shamoon]

Sure. What, you're saying God is a fake God?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Because if a creature, Paul, a creature can defeat your God, your God is nothing. The only option is Paul was a true messenger, true messenger sent by Allah as part of the victorious party. And here's where it's going to get shocking. There are Muslim commentators, Ibn Kathir, Qurtubi. These are big names. You'll learn them as you study Islam. That I'll admit. Paul traveled with Peter, accompanied Peter and preached the Gospel of Christ in Rome, and they were both martyred there. They even list Paul as a follower of the apostles who had the right hand of fellowship from the apostles, and he was a true representative of Christianity.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow. Interesting. So. So let me. Let me reiterate. Actually, everything you said. So in 3:55, and in this 61:14, it says the same thing that Jesus's Jesus says, Jesus followers, who's gonna preach my message and his disciples say, we're gonna preach the message. The Quran is saying this. So therefore this argument is they're accusing one of the followers of Jesus for

[Sam Shamoon]

not preaching the message, or they're accusing Paul of destroying the message of the followers and defeating them. Could they be defeated?

[Bryce Crawford]

No, they can't, according to the QURAN. Because in 352, 55.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

It said that they would. They would stay till the day of resurrection.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah. They do one right. And then 61 14, which the screen went off again.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Lord have mercy on us. Lord, I pray that when you bring destruction on the earth, destroy this TV set, destroy it completely, that it never sees the day of light, Lord, because I know I'm impatient, but Lord, I know when I prayed for patience. But not this way, Lord, some other way. Because I'm going to be a doctor by the time this is over. I'm going to have so much patience. Sorry. 61:14 said that we aided those who believed and they won. If Paul hijacked Christianity, he defeated them and vanquished them. And they lost. So what's the story?

[Bryce Crawford]

Either the Quran is false or it's not.

[Sam Shamoon]

Dang.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow, that's so fascinating. So I. Wow, that just. I feel like now when I watch all the Muslim apologetics and stuff like that. You're right. They really just try to trip you up. But everything stems back to the same argument.

[Sam Shamoon]

Like you're just.

[Bryce Crawford]

You're just disproving yourself.

[Sam Shamoon]

Go to the root. You're dealing with symptoms. Well, as a Hazza. I said, hey, that's good. Muhammad is a liar. Then what? You said there's a contradiction in the Bible. Muhammad is a liar. Why are you a Muslim? What? What do you mean? Yeah. No answer. No, I'm not answering. I want. Now, can you just distort my faith in the Bible? But I can't be a Muslim, so I should be a Buddhist because Muhammad told me this Bible is the uncorrupt word of God. You believe in him? I don't. I don't care for his opinion. But if I believe him, then I have to believe in the Bible. But you're telling me not to believe in the Bible, which means you're telling me don't believe him. So then what are you leaving with? What do you want me to become? Hindu, Buddhist or agnostic? What do you want me to become? Because you definitely just convinced me not to become a Muslim.

[Bryce Crawford]

Interesting.

[Sam Shamoon]

That's how you do it, brother.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow. So, okay, second question is more. These next couple are really about Muhammad. I wanted to talk about Muhammad marrying Aisha.

[Sam Shamoon]

Aisha. Aisha, smoke some Hashisha. So go to sunnah.com, my friend. Sunnah.com.

[Bryce Crawford]

it's the genie. The genie got the TV.

[Sam Shamoon]

All right, go ahead, ask me. I'm probably gonna have to just.

[Bryce Crawford]

So, Aisha, from what I understand and. And correct me if I'm wrong, but the way that I. I have discovered is Muhammad goes to Baca. Is that his Abu Bakr?

[Sam Shamoon]

I like Baka, though.

[Bryce Crawford]

You like Baka?

[Sam Shamoon]

I like that one, yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

So he goes to Bakr and he says. He says, hey, Allah told me that.

[Sam Shamoon]

Well, he. How it went was, I want to marry your daughter. He goes, but you're my brother. And then Muhammad said, yeah, but we're brothers in religion, but she's still awful for me. Other traditions say that he had a dream or Jibril brought her covered. Right? So you saw a dream of her, she was covered, and then it was revealed she's your wife. So he had fantasies of her. So I don't believe. That's obviously Gabriel. That's Satan or a demon, if he really had that. So then. All right, so he contracts a marriage. Now, if you go in the search engine, put Aisha, A I, s, H, A, and then put 9, N, I. Oh, you know how to spell 9? Why am I spelling it for you? And then dolls. Are you going to see sunnah.com? how many dolls? D, O, L, L. Now that one not donuts, man. I know I look fatter than before. My. My friend Sunnah Nasai. The book of marriage. Now, notice the grade. It says Sahih Volume 4, Book 26, Hadith 3380. Read it for us.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wait, you said there's a great. Oh, I see the grade right there. The messenger of Allah, Mary was narrating it.

[Sam Shamoon]

Read. Who's narrating it?

[Bryce Crawford]

It was narrated by Aisha, so Aisha herself narrated it. All right, so personal testimony. The messenger of Allah, referring to Muhammad, married me when I was six and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine. And I used to play with dolls.

[Sam Shamoon]

That's how young she was.

[Bryce Crawford]

Oh, my gosh. Okay, I got a couple questions.

[Sam Shamoon]

There's more if you want to read.

[Bryce Crawford]

I mean, I do. I do want to read it.

[Sam Shamoon]

Wait, the other one is Muslim. You don't need to click on a brother. Just stay on the main page.

[Bryce Crawford]

So.

[Sam Shamoon]

So.

[Bryce Crawford]

So here's. Here's what I want to talk about here in particular. So I've heard quite a few Muslims go, oh, well, she was. It was. She was at the age of maturity.

[Sam Shamoon]

No, she wasn't.

[Bryce Crawford]

There's no way.

[Sam Shamoon]

No, not only that, Islam forbids having images like dolls. But if you read it, when Muhammad took her to the house to then have sex with her, she was playing with dolls. Why? Because the Muslims say because she was premature, hadn't reached puberty, she was allowed to play with dolls. It's when she reached puberty she had to stop. Now they said that she stopped playing with dolls at Khyber when. The Battle of Khyber. She was around 14 years old when she reached puberty. So according to the Muslims, she hadn't reached puberty until she was 14.

[Bryce Crawford]

And where is that?

[Sam Shamoon]

That's in Ibn Hajar Al Askalani, his commentary on Bukhari. But it'll be here. It'll come up. Scroll down a little bit, brother. Okay, you see it right there. Fath al Bari, page 143, volume 13. This is the commentary from Ibn Hajar Al Ask that one right there that he says where it says where it says Narrated Aisha, Sal Bukhari, good manners and form Al Adap. Now before you read it, when you see in the parentheses at the bottom, this is Sal Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Hadith 151, where it says in parentheses Fat Al Bari, page 143, Volume 13, Fat Al Bari is the commentary on Bukhari by Ibn Hajar Al Askalani.

[Bryce Crawford]

Gotcha.

[Sam Shamoon]

He is explaining that these. So he's explaining why she was allowed to play with dolls when dolls images are forbidden. Now read it.

[Bryce Crawford]

And he's well respected.

[Sam Shamoon]

He's one of their greatest scholars. Brother, when you want to go to the Bukhari and know the commentary, you go to him, Ibn Hajar.

[Bryce Crawford]

Okay, so this guy is saying that

[Sam Shamoon]

and he says first he's the hadith. Now this is the actual hadith from Aisha. But the words in parentheses are his words. So read it.

[Bryce Crawford]

I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet. And my girlfriends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter, they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.

[Sam Shamoon]

And then this is parentheses comes from Volume 13, page 143.

[Bryce Crawford]

The comment, the commentary says the playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden. But it was allowed for Aisha at the time as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.

[Sam Shamoon]

And then I have the extensive commentary of his. And one of my posts, if guys if you guys listening, go to AnsweringIslam blog. My articles are there. Use a search engine. Also go to Sam. I'm going to spell it out for you guys. Sam Shmn. So Sam Shamoon. But it's Sam S A M S H M N. And then I think I misspelled it.

[Bryce Crawford]

We can link it in the description.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah, I'll give Matilda because I misspelled theology when I started URL. I missed the O so I made a stupid mistake. So it's T H e l o g y.net but I'll give it to you later. It was a mistake, man. And then answering Islam. So 4,000 articles, all of it fully documented. And I quote Ibn Hajar, who's being cited by what, who is considered one of the greatest Salafi scholars of the 20th century. Bin Bas, he's explaining that Ibn Hajar says that Aisha stopped playing with dolls at Khayber. Why? Because at Khaybar is when she reached puberty and she was 14 years old. That means they're telling you she didn't reach puberty until she was 14.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

So when they say she reached puberty, they're lying to you.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

And besides, even let's say for argument's sake, she reached puberty, how does that make her psychologically and physiologically ready to have a 54 year old man old enough to be a great grandfather? If you'll actually look at it, because they get married young, let's say Muhammad was married at 15, he had a kid. So 15, he had a kid. 30, he's got a grandkid. 45, he can have a great grandkid.

[Bryce Crawford]

Right, right.

[Sam Shamoon]

He's 54, he's old enough to be a great grandfather.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. That's wild.

[Sam Shamoon]

So this shows you how sick, demonic and wicked these people are that would justify and defend this perverted practice.

[Bryce Crawford]

So you mentioned something. When they talk about the age of puberty thing, obviously they're lying about it. Yes, there's.

[Sam Shamoon]

There's a.

[Bryce Crawford]

There. I've heard that there's a ability where you can lie for the sake of Islam.

[Sam Shamoon]

It's called taqiyah and taqiyah because Muhammad said war is deceit, war is khida and taqiyah concealment according to even Sunni traditions. But this is actually more well known among Shia. But it's in the sunni tradition. Chapter three, verse 20. And in fact bring up the crown if you can. Again, I'll just show you that receipts here just now. Thank the Lord. It's open, man.

[Bryce Crawford]

Shoot it's three. What?

[Sam Shamoon]

3, 28. 3 28. Now watch. Here. Can you read it for us?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep. Believers should not take disbelievers as guardians instead of the believers. And whoever does so will have nothing to hope for from Allah.

[Sam Shamoon]

So notice you can't befriend unbelievers. Did you read it? You're reading it?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

That's interesting.

[Sam Shamoon]

Believers, whoever does so has no hope from Allah.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

You become friends with the kuffar, the disbelievers. Allah is your enemy, and you're no better than them.

[Bryce Crawford]

So if a Muslim becomes friends with me or you, they're no good in Allah's eyes.

[Sam Shamoon]

Only if it's for deceit, because then there's a condition.

[Bryce Crawford]

Whoa. Unless it is.

[Sam Shamoon]

Unless. See, there's that condition.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow. A precaution against their tyranny. And Allah warns you about himself, and to Allah is the final return.

[Sam Shamoon]

The only reason why you'll befriend the kuffar, the disbelievers, is to protect yourself from their backlash. Why? Once they realize what your agenda is. Now, when you know the Muslims are here to rape our women, slave our children, behead us and take over, what's your reaction going to be?

[Bryce Crawford]

You would want to fight back.

[Sam Shamoon]

So that's the tyranny that you need to protect, protect against. So then what you do is you deceive them. Don't tell them what Islam teaches, because remember stage one, you're in stage one. Preach those surahs to you, your religion, to me, my religion.

[Bryce Crawford]

And is that why? Is that why? For example, like, with what's going on in New York, the mayor, Zoran, he claims to be Muslim, but he's the mayor.

[Sam Shamoon]

Mayor of New York, you mean?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, mayor of New York City. He claims to be Muslim, but he also is. Yeah, he's pro lgbtq, pro trans, all that stuff. Is that because of the stage one?

[Sam Shamoon]

He's a unique personality. I don't know if he's just a liberal Muslim, because not all Muslims believe he'll play the Muslim card to get votes. I don't know. But there's a possibility he's towing the party line in order to deceive the non Muslims. That Muslims are peaceful until they have the upper hand. I really don't know what to say about it. Because again, Islam murders homosexuals.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Islam is against. And this is what's ironic, premarital sex. And yet you can have unlimited slave girls for sex. So it's a walking contradiction. That's chapter four, verse three. So is he deliberately putting on this facade that he's a progressive Muslim? Then he's not a true Muslim according to traditional Islam. Traditional Islam, He's a fake. Or is he really a Muslim? But he has to go with the mentality mindset of the masses to deceive them, disarm them, so they don't see what the true agenda is. Only God knows the answer to that.

[Bryce Crawford]

That's very fascinating. So these guys can lie?

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

In fact, to deceive.

[Sam Shamoon]

I'm going to show you one of my articles. Okay, go to answering islam.info answeringislam.info this is the website.

[Bryce Crawford]

Phenomenal website.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah, this is I. I became the chief writer in 1999, but praise God, several years ago they stopped uploading. So I started my own blog to continue. Now, what you're going to do, brother, you're going to see it says polemic rebuttals and some blue. Now, they can't see it on your thing.

[Bryce Crawford]

Right, right. But we'll have it up. We'll have it up.

[Sam Shamoon]

Now you're going to see it says Nadir Ahmed. Nadir Ahmed. All right, click there, you see where it says Islam's religion, please. Up, up. There you see it says go down there. Go down that row. It's the last one in that row is Islam, religion of peace. Now, if you can do command f or control F, put in T U, Q, T U q. All right, right there. Stop there. C328.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yes.

[Sam Shamoon]

Okay, I quote that, but then I give you the commentary. That commentary is from Ibn Kathir. Consider one of the greatest medieval Muslim commentators. In point of fact, if you ask any Muslims knowledgeable when you interpret the Quran, you must consult the commentators, the greatest of whom are Al Tabari, Ibn Kathir, the two Jalal, Jalalayn, Al Qurtubi, Zamakhshari, Al Baydah. These are the men you look to in understanding the Arabic Quran, especially when you want to translate. Ibn Kathir is writing about 700 years after Muhammad's death. He is quoting sources that supposedly go back to Muhammad. Now watch where it says the prohibition of supporting the disbelievers. This is the section where he's explaining 3:28. Do not take them as friends unless it's for security. Read where it says Allah prohibited his.

[Bryce Crawford]

Allah prohibited his believing servants from becoming supporters of the disbeliever or to take them as comrades with whom they develop friendships.

[Sam Shamoon]

So why do they befriend you? Literally, why are they befriending you?

[Bryce Crawford]

Just to deceive you either.

[Sam Shamoon]

Because they're stupid. They'll know Islam. Give them benefit. Not all Muslims know Islam. Really? They don't. I'm not trying to be. They just don't like Christians. But what about the Muslims who do know Islam? Why are they befriending you when they hate you?

[Bryce Crawford]

Because then when we. Because what it said in. In chapter three, it says.

[Sam Shamoon]

And this is the commentary 3:28. Here's. Now watch. Read. Now here's why they befriend you. Keep reading.

[Bryce Crawford]

Rather than the. Than the believers. Allah warned against such behavior. And when he said. And whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way. Meaning whoever commits this act that Allah has prohibited, then Allah will discard them. Allah said next. Unless you indeed fear a danger from them. Meaning except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

Pretend to be your friend. Right.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

But now this part. The name is Al Bukhari. That was the man.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Abu Adarda is a companion Muhammad. So it says. For instance, Al Bukhari recorded that Abu Al Darda, that's Muhammad's companion. What did Abu Darda say?

[Bryce Crawford]

We smile in the face of some people, although our hearts curse them.

[Sam Shamoon]

What else do you want?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, that's wild.

[Sam Shamoon]

That's wild. And this is Muhammad's companion.

[Bryce Crawford]

And then the Taqiyah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Al Bukhari said that Al Hassan said the Tuqiyah. That's. It is allowed until the day of resurrection. In other words, you're allowed to lie till the day of resurrection.

[Bryce Crawford]

And. But that's also according to the Quran, the day that the believers will.

[Sam Shamoon]

So you say. So that's what the. But I'm showing you. It's not my spin. No, you're a Christian anti Muslim. You hate Islamophobe and you're misquoting the verse. I'm Ibn Kathir, buddy.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow. That is insane.

[Sam Shamoon]

So what your duty is start with your church. You don't win Muslims, but you're losing Christians. You need to inoculate. Educate Christians about this. You got to teach them this. You have to hate Muhammad as much as you hate Islam. Not Muslims hate Muhammad as much as Islam. See how filthy Islam is? So they never ever consider becoming Muslim and then show them the duty of Christ and know their faith. Because most of the time in these conversations you're addressing, let's say, the objections of Others, not objections. I'm sorry, the views of others. But you're not strengthening yourself in your own faith.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yep, I see what you're saying. Like more people are focused on winning the argument and like.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah. And they're not learning why they believe. For example, the Trinity, which is the heart of our faith because our God is triune. He's the Trinity.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Are we ready to show from scripture God is triune and are we ready to deal with the objections that not just Muslims, anyone and everyone who's an anti trinitarian use the same arguments? There are now Christians who claim to be Christians. They're not because they reject the true God, but they think they're not. Who are Unitarians who say that Jesus is just a man. If we get so hung up on just debates, what I call spiritual bloodbaths, spiritual UFCs where we just invite people in and want to wreck them and destroy them so we can get 2,000 or 3,000 that edifies no one. Yeah, it really doesn't. If you go take my word, I want people to go take my word for it, not take my word for it. Go and watch the live streams. Hey, Islam is false. Prove me wrong. Over 90% of the time is wasted because you don't get any fruitful conversations. Only Muslims coming, mocking, attacking, ridiculing and then you gotta get rid of them. How does this edify anyone? Right, there's a place to refute and destroy objections. But it's more edifying to teach a Christian why you should trust the Bible. How does he know what the Bible is? And how do you know that the God of the Bible is triune and that Jesus is God in the flesh? And how to answer the objections and what is salvation? That's what caused me to do what I did. When the guy, the Muslim attacked me, he was attacking my faith. He quoted verses where Christ could not be God. That's why if you go to the website here, if you see my articles, 98% material is all Christian related. In fact, go to the main page, let me show it to you and you can show them later, you'll see it. They won't. Okay, now go to individual authors in the red go down. And I'm not the only writer. I was the chief writer. But there are a lot of great writers here. Look for Sam Shamoon. To the right at top you see Sam Shamoon. Slowly, slowly. Scroll down. Look how many articles and look at the title. Says Holy Spirit, Jesus God as well. Did Christ's sacrifice appease the Father and entire Godhead. Just as he scrolls down slowly. Look at all the articles and 98% of them is about the Trinity, the deed of Christ, the authority, scripture and salvation. Wow. Look, Keep going, brother. You're going to be here all day, but go down, see?

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow. Praise God.

[Sam Shamoon]

Can you see that? Since 1999, it's there for free. Download it before the websites disappear. Keep going, brother. Look how much of it is all about Christianity.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, that's beautiful.

[Sam Shamoon]

98% of right?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Keep going, brother. Now and then I attacked the Quran and Muhammad obviously, but it's focused now. You see where it says former index page. This is the new format, the original format. Now look, this is the original one. When he clicks on it before you go down, this is when I start 1999. Look at the questions I'm answering from 99. A series of answer to common claims and question claims. If Jesus God, how can God die? If Jesus God, was he praying to himself? These are articles I started writing and originally in 1999.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow. I mean, I'm not even joking. Those top two questions, that's what they always say. Yeah, that's.

[Sam Shamoon]

What does it say? Series of answers to common questions and claims. You need to know your faith more so than knowing Islam. In fact, scroll down, you'll see again, 98% about Explain Christianity, the Trinity, the Bible and salvation. Keep going. There's stuff on Islam, but not as much.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

Now this is the website. If you go to my blog and oh, it's my blog. It's probably 99.5% Christianity.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

In fact, if you go, brother, do. AnsweringIslam blog. AnsweringIslam blog. Blog. Yes. So I am.

[Bryce Crawford]

And this is.

[Sam Shamoon]

There it goes right there.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

So it's great to talk about Islam. It's a threat. But we need to know our faith. We need to know the scriptures. We need to know that the God of the Bible is real and truly experience him and truly know him and love him. And you're doing that. But what I'm saying is not just going to church and praying. You got to pray and singing.

[Bryce Crawford]

Right.

[Sam Shamoon]

Knowing the scriptures, knowing the proof from scriptures, why you believe in the trinity of Christ is God in the flesh. So keep that in mind.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Islam is going nowhere until Jesus comes. So even now that you know this, now that you notice, what are you going to do about it?

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, it just makes me want to know my faith more right now.

[Sam Shamoon]

Even if you want to cure the problem of Islam, I just told you, they can lie to you. How are you going to stop them. Go ahead, give me a solution. In America.

[Bryce Crawford]

Goodness. Yeah. I mean, we just. I think we talked about at the beginning, it's like, if you try to limit their.

[Sam Shamoon]

Then they're going to limit you.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. And then if you don't limit them, then they'll slowly but surely take over.

[Sam Shamoon]

So knowing this is important, but what can we do? The only thing we can do is love Jesus, worship, pray, read our faith, and evangelize. That's all we can do.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

And obviously, if it comes down to it, defend yourself. You have the right to defend yourself. Arms. But that's all we can do, brother.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Wow. An unhealthy fascination. Islam will cause paranoia and fear.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow.

[Sam Shamoon]

Right?

[Bryce Crawford]

No, it does. It does. I. Yeah, I have a. I have a really incredible friend. I grew up with him. Like, we grew up in the same area and loves Jesus. Just incredible. But he had a period of time after his first year of following Jesus where he was like, really going in on Islam because he had made a claim. And then, you know, the Muslims would, like, you know, mock and things like that towards him. And then he went through that season of time where it was like a slight paranoia. But then he realized kind of what you're saying. Like, I just need to know Jesus. Know Jesus. That's beautiful. Okay, well, my final question for you before we close. And I'd love to pray, which, by the way, everyone listening or watching. I'm going to link all of these sites down below. I've been on answeringislam.com.

[Sam Shamoon]

yeah. And then answeringislam blog, my website.

[Bryce Crawford]

Put them all down there.

[Sam Shamoon]

I'll give it to you theology.net it's.

[Bryce Crawford]

It's wild how many. You guys can't see it. It was just wild. How many links are on there?

[Sam Shamoon]

Like I said, the brother said. Who counted? I have 4,200 articles just from me. Imagine everyone else.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah, that's.

[Sam Shamoon]

And it's free. So download them because we don't know how long the websites will be up. Yeah, download the articles because they're gone. They're gone. I don't have them backed up.

[Bryce Crawford]

Wow. Okay. Okay. And then. Yeah, I guess, final question. This is so random, but like the, The. The Mecca, the Cube.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah.

[Bryce Crawford]

Where did that come from?

[Sam Shamoon]

It's a pagan artifact. In other words, even the Muslims will tell you that prior to Muhammad, the Arabs were steeped in idolatry. They had about 360 idols. And so they'll admit. Yeah, the Kaaba housed idols. The Arabs were idolaters. They worshiped Gods and goddesses and the chief God of the Kaaba, Mecca was Hubal or Hubble. Hubble is actually baal. This takes a long time. Yeah, it is. I've documented from Muslim sources, even scholars of Islam say, yeah, Hubble or Hu. Baal. Hubal means he is baal. Or it can be an Arabicized bastardization of Hebrew. Now how do we know that Hubble, the chief idol of the Kaaba and Mecca is baal? Because the Muslim sources say a man named Amr, Amr bin Luhay went to the Amalekites. Says it he was in the Levant, Syria, Jordan. And in Syria they gave him the idol of their chief God and imported it back to the Kaaba. Well, you know, the chief God of the Moabites and Malachites were. Wow. So what did he bring back?

[Bryce Crawford]

A false God.

[Sam Shamoon]

So the Kaaba was a shrine of baal. It's BAAL worship.

[Bryce Crawford]

So is that what's inside the door?

[Sam Shamoon]

No, it's gone now. Everything's gone.

[Bryce Crawford]

What's inside?

[Sam Shamoon]

Are you talking about the black stone?

[Bryce Crawford]

I'm talking about the black stone, yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

That too is a pagan artifact. But Muslims like to rewrite history. So you ask them, so was it true that at time Muhammad the Arabs were pagans and idolaters then he worshiped gods and goddesses and Hubble was achieved God? They'll say yes, but they'll say originally Ishmael lived there and then Abraham came and visited Ishmail. They built the Kaaba as a house of worship, but in time the descendants of Ishmael corrupted it and added gods and goddesses. So they rewrite history.

[Bryce Crawford]

That's nowhere to be found in history.

[Sam Shamoon]

I will, I'll take you to mosque. We'll become Muslim. They give you pre Islamic proof shred of historical, archaeological proof that Ishmael ever lived in Mecca. No evidence whatsoever.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Secondly, we don't even have any evidence for Muhammad being a physical descendant of Ishmael. That's based on later tradition written over 100 years after the Quran was supposedly written. No proof whatsoever that the Arabs where Muhammad descended from in Mecca had any connection Ishmael because Ishmael, his mother was Egyptian. Hagar, Genesis 21:21 says she went found them a wife from Egypt. His wife was Egypt. His father Abraham wasn't an Arab. He has got nothing new with Arabs. Abraham is a Hebrew descent of Eber Arfaxad. Hebrews means crossover mother Egyptian. He's African. His kids would be Hebrew and African. No connection with the Arabs of Mecca because according to their tradition. Ishmael lived there and married a woman from the tribe of Jurhum. Lie. There's no evidence for it.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

And he settled the wilderness of Puran. Puran is by Egypt, Shur and by Canaan. It ain't in Mecca. So they had to rewrite this history in order to explain how is it a pagan shrine now becomes the house of Allah? Because originally it was built by Abraham and Ishmael. There is no proof. Yeah, it was a pagan shrine. That's all it was.

[Bryce Crawford]

That's very odd. Before we close, one thing. If you could encourage believers that have listened, what would you encourage them in?

[Sam Shamoon]

As I've said in the beginning, I'll say it again. You need to be anchored in your faith. You cannot be a master of all trades. Right. You can't. It's possible. If God has called you to witness to a group, not everyone's going to be called to Islam. You may be called to Joseph's witnesses. Someone else is atheist. Stay in your lane. Learn what your gifts are. Stay in your lane. Don't cross over. So God has blessed you to destroy atheism philosophically, rationally, scientifically. And that's your calling. Perfect your craft. But then don't think that qualifies you to go and debate Muslims. Leave that to others. Learn from them. So I don't debate atheists because I suck. And it's not about my ego, it's about truth. So what I do is you're an atheist. Here are these scholars, their websites. They demolish atheism. Go listen and try to respond now. If that's your calling, perfect your gifts, perfect your trade, but know your faith. The most important part of all of this is Christians are poorly educated. They can't even answer basic questions about the basic doctrines of their faith. Trinity. What is the Trinity? Is Jesus God? If so, was he praying to himself? How can God die? How can God become a man? You need to know why you believe in the Trinity. Because that is the heart of our faith. God is a trinity. God is not one person. God is one God, three persons. They're not the same person. And Christ, who's God? The Son, not the Fathers, became. Learn that. You need to learn why you can trust the Bible. Historically accurate, preserved. You need to know the evidence for the resurrection. Because our faith is anchored in the fact the historical Jesus was killed, physically buried, physically rose, physically left the tomb empty. And we have massive amount of historical evidence showing the resurrection as an event that best explains these facts. Learn the evidence that Christ Alike. Because if Christ is dead. 1 Corinthians 15. Paul says, if Christ is dead, your faith is useless. Stop being a Christian. Yeah. If you don't know why the resurrection is a fact, or if you doubt the resurrection, you're destroying your faith. And if the resurrection can be falsified, Paul is saying, go find you another religion. Learn the evidence that Christ has been raised. The resurrection is a fact of history transforming the apostles. The Bible is historically accurate. God is trying. Learn your faith and then live it out. And then all of you listening, pray for us in the front lines. Because I've been doxed. I'm not the only one. Other apologists Avery, him and his wife, their address been doxed. The Muslims revealed their numbers, their address. They did it with me, they did it with others. In fact, if I recommend, if you get a chance, there's another brother who's up and coming. He's great. Mike of inspiring philosophy. Yes.

[Bryce Crawford]

He's phenomenal.

[Sam Shamoon]

Interview.

[Bryce Crawford]

He's got great information. I've been seeing him recently. I love his stuff.

[Sam Shamoon]

Yeah. Interview and this will hear this.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah.

[Sam Shamoon]

Hey, Mike. Love you, brother. Keep going the way you're going. Stay humble. Pray for me. The Lord have mercy on us and I pray God prospers you, him and his buddy than get a chance to interview them. He's been doxed too. We've been doxed. So pray for us in the front line. Pray we don't fall in scandal because Satan wants to take us out and tempt us. Pray we're covered by the blood of Jesus. Pray the Lord protects our lives. And with me, the Lord helped me to get healthier because I've let myself go for the sake of my daughters. I see my daughters grow up to follow the Lord and the Lord bless my ministry and that I'm a man of integrity and provide. So there you go.

[Bryce Crawford]

Amen. Would you pray? Would you pray that everyone would just fall more in love with Jesus, man?

[Sam Shamoon]

That's all. That's what it's about.

[Bryce Crawford]

Yeah. Would you pray for everyone listening?

[Sam Shamoon]

You got it, brother. Father, we come and ask in the Almighty name of Jesus, your son. We ask first that you teach us how to praise you, how to pray to you, how to love you and adore you by the power of your Holy Spirit. Because we know what the scriptures say, Romans 8, 26, 27. It's the Spirit that knows how to pray for us and through us and intercede. So I ask that your spirit will sanctify this prayer of mine in the blood of Jesus. To be acceptable and pleasing to you. So I lift up Bryce, his crew, his team and all those who watch. I don't know who will be watching. I don't know how many will be watching. But it's not about numbers, Father. Destroy pride, arrogance in all of us. The desire for fame and fortune and money. Purify our motives to be content to do it for Jesus, to teach, for Jesus, to make Jesus famous. Because he's infinitely beautiful when you get to know him as he really is. And I ask, Father, that through these ministers and these young men, protect them, they don't fall. Protect them from scandal. Strengthen them. And may they point people to Jesus. Not to themselves, not to themselves, not to me. Destroy the cult of personality. Guard our hearts to glorify Christ and show his audience just how infinitely beautiful you are once they get to know your real character by a proper understanding of Scripture. And, Father, we ask that you perfect our understanding of Scripture, perfect our articulation of Scripture, perfect our interpretation of Scripture and perfect our love and obedience to Scripture. Because the Lord says, if we love him, we will do his will. I pray you, give us grace, strict discipline, spiritually, physically, all of us to practice what we preach. Help us when we struggle weakness. Help us when we fall in sin. Because the flesh is strong and our spirit is weak. But you are greater than our flesh. Save us for your glory by the power of the blood of Jesus Christ. Seal us by the Spirit. May your spirit own us fully, fully and own all our possessions. Own our loved ones, own my daughters fully. We want the spirit to own us, to be controlled by the spirit. Because your spirit is beautiful, glorious and perfect and majestic and only intends what is perfect, good and righteous for us. Because you are good, you are perfect, you are righteous. And your will is good. And your will is to be loved by you and to be in love with you and live forever with you, with Jesus and with the Holy Spirit. May the blood of Christ wash us, purify us against our flesh, against Satan, against the world. May we be more than conquerors as we crush the evil one by the power of the blood of Jesus Christ and we finish the race. Because until the Lord comes, physically we die. And then he'll return and raise our bodies. But in the interim, if we die, our spirits are with him. If we die in fellowship with him. And we want Jesus, it's not about ministry. It's not about just arguing. It's about Jesus. To see him, to physically touch him, to be touched on life, physically held by him, kiss his feet because he's the source of love. Hell is not having Jesus. Heaven is where Jesus is, and I pray we'll be with him forever. We thank you, Father. We thank you, Lord Jesus. We thank you, Holy Spirit. Again, preserve this young man his ministry and preserve me as well. For the glory of Jesus Christ. In the name of Jesus, we ask this. Amen.

[Bryce Crawford]

Amen. Thank you for doing that.

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