Neurodivergence: Having the big conversations and living your values with Dr Naomi Fisher

Welcome to the Business of Psychology podcast. Today we're joined by a guest I recommend often. When I'm talking to clients and other parents, I very frequently find myself recommending her books and accessible webinars on supporting children who are struggling through alternative education and reducing demand. And when I'm talking to other psychologists and therapists, I use her as an excellent example of somebody who's able to combine two specialisms and pull off a psychology based portfolio career beautifully.

Dr Naomi Fisher is a clinical psychologist specialising in autism and trauma. She's an EMDR consultant and trainer, and a prolific author who's cultivated her expertise through research, public sector work, and in her independent practice. Today we're exploring how her experiences doing her PhD in autism and NHS practice has shaped the impactful work that she does today. And we're also going to dive into the politics of neurodiversity and why Naomi is concerned that current social pressures are making it really hard for clinicians to have those nuanced conversations about diagnosis and education, and why she's launched her new podcast, Let's Talk Neurosense alongside Dr Danielle Drinkwater.

Full show notes and a transcript of this episode are available at The Business of Psychology

Links for Naomi:

Website: naomifisher.co.uk

Podcast: Let's Talk Neurosense: The Psychology of Neurodiversity

Sunstack: Think Again: Making Childhood Fit For Children

Links for Rosie:

Substack: substack.com/@drrosie

Rosie on Instagram:

@rosiegilderthorp

@drrosiegilderthorp

The highlights

Naomi tells us about her unusual route into clinical psychology, doing her PhD first 01:57
I ask Naomi about the central question of her PhD 06:38
Naomi talks about what drew her into clinical work 08:45
We discuss the breadth of experience our clinical training gave us 12:07
Naomi describes what she typically does in her practice at the moment 15:54
Naomi talks about her drive get good information out there and the backlash she’s received 20:21
I ask Naomi how she deals with being recognised 26:48
Naomi tells us about her podcast, Let’s Talk Neurosense 37:33
Naomi tells us where we can find her 51:48

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