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The Candace Cameron Bure Podcast
Allie Schnacky and Natasha Bure - Being a Christian In Public
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Candace is joined by Allie Schnacky (JWLKRS Worship) and Natasha Bure for “Girls Under Pressure”
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Candace Cameron Bure
Why do you think you're a good person just because you're Christian?
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Natasha Bure
No such thing.
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Candace Cameron Bure
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Ali Schnappy
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Candace Cameron Bure
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Ali Schnappy
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Candace Cameron Bure
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Ali Schnappy
Bringing those grandmas in.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yeah. So I've got like two pretty amazing young women here that are given us the deets, filling us in on, on how we feel about all of these topics from today's point of view, like from our culture today because it's very different from when I grew up. And today we're going to talk about being a Christian and being a Christian publicly. And you know Natasha, when we were talking about different topics that we wanted to share on the podcast. You actually brought this one up. You were like, I, I. There's a need to talk about what a Christian looks like, particularly from social media, because I think there's so many people out there that think, oh, Christians are so perfect. And it actually is overwhelming. And I don't even know how to start or where to find faith or do all the things that they're doing. And so I'm just gonna leave it behind and I'll go find faith down some other path. So that's what we're talking about today. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna start off with a question, because when you raised that, I thought, you know, someone wrote this to me recently. I answered it on my Instagram. Every once in a while when I'm on a flight, I'll do a little Q and A.
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Ali Schnappy
We love the Q and A.
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Candace Cameron Bure
It makes the hours go by faster.
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Ali Schnappy
I love it.
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Candace Cameron Bure
So I like some of the fun questions, and then I pick a couple of deep ones because they, they take time and thought to answer. But someone wrote me and they said, why do you think you're a good person just because you're Christian?
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Natasha Bure
No such thing.
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Candace Cameron Bure
I know, I know. And I answered this. I can read you my answer. I said, when did I say I'm a good person? Quite the opposite. I'm a sinner, and I'm a flawed person. I'm also saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, who paid for my sin by his willing sacrifice on the cross, taking the sin of every person in our world upon himself, mine, yours, everyone's. No matter how great he died, was buried, resurrected, and now sits at the right hand of God. I will never be good or perfect, but I'm saved, washed clean before God's judgment. I'm justified, as if I've never sinned. And every person has that gift offered to them. Take it. He loves you. He wants to reconcile you to himself. And so that's what I, I wrote. But it really begs the question, why do. Why do people think that we're supposed to be perfect people or such good people when we're Christians and as a Christian, are we. Are we displaying something that does not feel authentic on social media?
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Ali Schnappy
Can I just say something really fast? It was so important that when you read that, you didn't take it personally. And you didn't. Oh, like when, when you just read that, it just hit me so hard because when I first hear comments like that, because I get those comments all the time. My initial, like, instinct as a person is to get so offended and to be like, when did I ever. Like, when did I ever say not in a nice way? When did I say that? Yeah, like, what do you really know about me? From what you've seen online, what do you know? Right. But when we are willing to die to that feeling of feeling offended and realize that that person feels that way because of what they've seen modeled for them or out of a root of hurt, it allows us to come in in a spirit and a posture of love and offer them exactly what you have, which is that freedom that comes from Christ. And so that was such a cool thing that you did there.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Thank you. I appreciate that. I have learned in just in my years and as I continue to get older to not take things personally, and it can be difficult and challenging. I know Natasha and I have had this. These talks all the time, but, yeah, I think it's just with. With age and wisdom, you realize not everything's about you. And I can read a question that is directed at me in a negative, cutting way.
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Ali Schnappy
Right.
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Candace Cameron Bure
And you. You recognize, though, that there is most likely hurt on the other side or they've seen something else modeled very differently. So how can I be a bridge or be an example that could show them a different way? Let's start with you guys. Natasha, you want to jump in first, since you're.
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Natasha Bure
I'll just take it back to when I was very little. I don't even know if you remember this conversation, but it's actually a huge part of my testimony. I went to a Christian school growing up, and I went to Sunday school every Sunday. And, you know, we're taught the Ten Commandments and how to, you know, obey your parents and all the things which I had a very difficult time doing. And I remember one Sunday I was, you know, in church, and they asked if we wanted to accept Christ into your heart. And I said yes and raised my hand and, you know, prayed a prayer. And I remember then, like, the next Sunday. And I think for a few Sundays at least, I thought, this is my own brain. But I remember we had a conversation when we were in Florida, and I came to you, and I was like, am I doing a good job? Like, am I being a good Christian? And my mom was just like, that's not what. That's not how this works. You know, and when I was so little, I just didn't understand that. It felt like being a believer came with so many rules and things that I had to follow. And it wasn't necessarily about the relationship that I had with Christ. And of course there are things that you want to, you know, abide by and live, because those are honoring to the Lord. But I couldn't understand that when I was little, I think especially because I, you know, wasn't the best behaving child. Like, the two really coincided for me where I was like, okay, I have to obey my parents. And then because I'm obeying my parents, then like, I'm obeying God. And I don't know, I got it very mixed up in my head. I didn't really get it. And I think for a long time following that, I remember my brothers and the people around me, especially you were all such good examples. But I took it so the wrong way. And instead of it being encouraging for me and seeing all these believers that were really living a life for the Lord, I was just like, dang, why am I so tempted? How come I can never behave? Why do I have all these problems? Something is not clicking for me. And then I'm just like, maybe this isn't for me because I'm, it's. I'm not getting it at all. And I remember, you know, when I was 15, I. I went to summer camp. You shipped me off. And I did.
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Candace Cameron Bure
I shipped her off. Ali K screaming. And if she doesn't get on the plane, I'm like, I will have men in black come in and pick her up out of her bed. She's going to camp. Okay.
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Natasha Bure
It was not that dramatic. But anyway, I went to camp and it was really the first time in my life that I was surrounded by so many girls. I was in a cabin with 10 plus girls for a whole month and listening to their stories and where they had come from and all these different life experiences and them struggling with the same things I was that I hadn't really heard from anyone before for. Because everyone around me, from what I had seen, had this seamless relationship with Christ that just clicked and made sense and they didn't struggle. And it was so perfect. And then for the first time, I was like, oh, so this is real? Like, this is what real life is. People have real life problems and issues and temptations and all these things. And that was really where then I rededicated my life to the Lord of going, like, I, I just surrender. Whatever this is. I'm not going to push it away. I'm not going to try to say I'm. I'm not worthy of this love or anything like that. And so now just Translating that into social media for the, you know, for the young women who perhaps are in the same situation or, you know, they're just kind of tiptoeing around the idea of faith or whatever that is. It's. It's such a balancing act of wanting to be authentic with your relationship with Christ and how you feel about the Lord, but simultaneously, I don't know, just figuring that all out. There's so many different pockets of it that obviously we'll dive into in this conversation. But I just thought it was such a great topic to kind of.
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Candace Cameron Bure
It's a really good topic. I mean, do you relate to it in any way? Because you. You've more been public ally since 20. 19 or 20.
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Ali Schnappy
Yeah, 20.
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Candace Cameron Bure
So for you growing up, I mean, I think I know this answer, but you. You answer it. Were you like the obedient child?
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Ali Schnappy
No.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Oh, you weren't?
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Ali Schnappy
No. That's why I love Natasha so much, because I was. I was a tyrant. I was that one in my family, too, that you never knew what my next move was going to be.
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Candace Cameron Bure
And were either of your brothers or your sisters, were they like the perfect children?
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Ali Schnappy
Were that my brother. And he. He always said, like, still to this day, he's probably the person I look up to most in the entire world, the person that could hurt me most in the entire world. Like, I just love him so much. But honestly, like, perfection is something for unbelievers and believers. That is probably like the biggest weight that you could ever try to achieve. And honestly is impossible whether you are a believer and it's what you feel with these people messaging you saying, why do you think you're perfect? Like, I could never. I could never do that. Or I mean, I had that really real feeling too. Growing up, I told Natasha this story I would. When I was young, my best friend got baptized. And I mean, like, I was probably 10 years old, my best friend, I thought she was so holy, she got baptized. So I thought I had to get baptized too, to be as holy as her. But I didn't even know. I didn't get it. I didn't have that connect. So she came out of the water crying, and I felt like I had to pretend cry coming out of the water because that's just what I thought you did when you were a good person that loved God. And as I got older, I really think that God shifted my perspective on religion versus relationship just because of the example my family set for me. I knew they weren't perfect people. I had seen them mess up I had seen the fights we'd all gotten into, but every time they went back to God. And so I felt safe to be imperfect with him. But I think where this topic is really important to me is growing up. I told you guys, I grew up in a dance studio, and it was a Christian dance studio. There was this group of girls in particular that I wanted to be friends with so bad, and they were a great group of Christian girls. But when I really got the inside scoop of who they were, they weren't inclusive, they were mean, they were nasty to each other, they gossip. Gossiped about each other behind each other's backs, like, weren't happy for each other at all. And I realized, like, if this is what Christians are really like, I don't want to be anything like them. But as I dove into what the Bible really was, I realized Jesus is nothing like that. And so I knew that I couldn't control what they were doing, but that I could control what I was doing. And I knew that I probably hurt people like that in the past, and I don't even know. So how do I not be that?
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Natasha Bure
Yeah.
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Ali Schnappy
How do I bridge that gap?
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Candace Cameron Bure
So. And that's. That's the question I want to ask. How do we do that on social media? Especially in a place where we can tell whatever narrative we want.
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Natasha Bure
Yeah.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Because nobody's seeing everything on social media, and we do know that it's always, like, the highlight reel. So how do we present ourselves as Christian, to be vulnerable, emotionally available, but not overshare, but still share our faith? Like, is there pressure in all of that for you guys?
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Natasha Bure
Yeah, we had this conversation. I feel like there's such a balancing act of, you want to be relatable and you want to appeal to what most people are going through, but not too much, that it becomes this trendy thing and it doesn't feel authentic and.
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Candace Cameron Bure
And not too much that you're. That you're over sharing either. Right.
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Natasha Bure
You want to. And there's things that you want to keep private. I think about this all the time. I'll have comments online that are saying, oh, like, your life seems so perfect. And meanwhile, you know, I might be crying the whole day, and it's like, do I get on my phone and then I share when I'm crying? And do I. Like, it's. It's such a balancing act of, like, how much do I share? What do I post? What do I. I don't know. It's a. It's a. Yeah.
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Candace Cameron Bure
I mean, is that. Do you feel A lot of pressure that way. When you're going through an emotional roller coaster to say, I'm having all these feelings that I'm crying right now, does it cross your mind to go, maybe this is a good time that I should pick up my phone and share it so people know that I'm real.
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Ali Schnappy
Or honestly, that never sat right with me. Like, everybody has so many videos of themselves crying. I don't have any videos of myself crying. I don't know why. I don't, I don't think to grab my phone like the second something's going really healthy.
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Natasha Bure
Yeah.
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Candace Cameron Bure
And I admit I've grabbed the phone a couple of times when I've cried. And it is, it's a weird thing, right? To balance just what you said, to balance that you're a real life person, but not overshare. But also, do you feel a pressure to uphold a Christian standard that maybe you actually follow through in real life? Or do you present yourselves a little bit better on social media, but on the side, when no one's looking you, you know, something as, as easy as saying gossip, like, easy to talk about. Oh, well, I don't gossip. But then you catch yourself in a conversation with you, you're with a couple of girlfriends and you realize you're talking about one of the other girls that isn't there.
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Natasha Bure
I think a big thing for me on social media is to never seem, I don't know what other words to use other than holier than thou or like, I'm so much better that I have it all figured out because especially having a lot of, you know, younger girls or girls my age on the platform, they're always coming to me for advice. And as much as I love sharing and I want to say, here's what's worked for me, I also know that there's so many things that I've personally struggled with, still struggle to struggle with to this day. And so I'm always the first to admit this is something that I'm working on, or this is a story of something that I've dealt with, but here's how I overcame it, or here's how I'm continuing to work at this. I never want to just say, here's a little how to and you're done. Because there's so many things that I'm working on on a daily basis and I. Yeah, I think that's where you're able.
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Candace Cameron Bure
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Ali Schnappy
Me, I'm const having to check my heart posture. Like, am I sharing this right now because I know it's going to do good in an algorithm? Am I sharing this right now because it's a strategy to make me more relatable? Or I feel like people deserve to know this part of my life because the truth is nobody deserves to know anything from our lives.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yeah.
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Ali Schnappy
Or anybody that's listening's lives. Like, you don't have to share anything. And honestly, Natasha, that reminds me so much of this season that I went through in 2022. Got really sick. I was in my bed the entire year on Oxygen. And I decided in that moment when I was kind of rocky in my faith. Like, I'm gonna post on my YouTube channel and just let them know what's going on in my life, that I'm kind of struggling in my faith. But I'm choosing to continue to believe that God is who he says he is. And I'm just gonna get real and put it out there to give people hope of how to get through it while I'm going through it. And I posted this video hoping to encourage people with the heart to encourage people. And I got this comment that I never forgot. And it basically said, well, I looked up to Ali so much for my faith and after seeing that she's struggling with hers, my faith is over. Like, I'm done.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Oh, no.
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Ali Schnappy
And I, I literally, I don't know why.
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Natasha Bure
I just know I was like, yep. I don't know why I nodded. Got that on camera. I was not nodding to that.
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Candace Cameron Bure
No. And.
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Ali Schnappy
And it irritated like it hurt me so bad because my.
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Candace Cameron Bure
That would have Absolutely.
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Ali Schnappy
Yeah. Was to encourage people that, you know what, I feel this way, but I'm choosing to believe who God is, even though I feel this way and it's still people interpret it the way they want to. And I really had to get to a point in that where I realized we're not going to be able to please everyone. And so we just have to do at the end of the day what we feel is the right thing to do. And God is not scared of our emotions at all. He's not scared of our questions. And as long as we're holding on to our faith, like I read the Psalms of David, praying and saying, God, why have you abandoned me? Like, I feel like you've left me. Don't let my enemies defeat me, but at the end of every single one he's like but I will continue to trust in you. I know your plans are good for me. I'll continue to hold fast to you. And so I think there's nothing wrong with being real online and showing the areas you're weak in, as long as you're doing it from a pure heart. Imagine what's possible when learning doesn't get in the way of life At Capella University. Our game changing flexpath learning format lets you set your own deadline so you can learn at a time and pace that works for you. It's an education you can tailor to your schedule. That means you don't have to put your life on hold to pursue your professional goals. Instead, enjoy learning your way and earn your degree without missing a beat. A different future is closer than you think with Capella University. Learn more@capella.edu.
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Ali Schnappy
Honestly, for me, I just think to myself, like a fate. Faith is such a huge part of my life. Not because of the way I grew up, but because when God spoke my identity to me, it changed everything about the way that I live, that it's never a question in my mind if I'll ever stop doing it because I desire so bad for people to be set free and know who they really are. You know?
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Candace Cameron Bure
That's awesome. That is. That is just gold right there. It's amazing to hear it.
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Natasha Bure
It's funny because I have felt that about other things in my life where if I get negative comments about, like, let's say it's makeup, I'll post a makeup video and someone will not like it, or someone will comment about my body or the fashion I wear those things. I will get to the point where I'm like, okay, I. I don't want to deal with this anymore. I don't like the comments. I've never gotten to a point within my faith because it's so important to me, and it is what grounds my life. It's impossible for me to ever think, like, no, I wouldn't want to share this. It's what saved me, you know?
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yeah.
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Natasha Bure
But there is other things. And I think it's funny because then you're able to realize how worldly, materialistic those things are because you're so quick to ditch them. You're like, that's fine, whatever. I'm getting a negative comment about the way I look. Okay. I won't post, you know, my outfits or my skin's bad. I don't. Whatever. But, yeah, that is the one area of my life that I just wouldn't not.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yeah. And that's how I feel. I was going to share the same thing. To me, you can write as many bad comments about me as a Christian as you want to. And I'm not talking about bad comments in terms of someone, like, shares a comment and they're trying to convict you of something that they see as sinful in your life. I'm not. I'm not talking about that. But if someone's just blatantly, like, making fun of my faith or they don't believe in it, they maybe are an atheist or have a different faith, but they're just trying to knock me down. And why don't you just be quiet and keep your faith to yourself? And I'm like, you could. Those arrows could come at me all day long, and I don't care. It's like. Like they just. They just fly right past me. Because for the very reasons that you guys said, my faith is what drives me, God saved me. Jesus saved me. How. How could I leave him at the doorstep and not publicly proclaim him? If I'm reading the Bible, I, you know, I am not. I do not want to be ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. So that, to me, is actually the easiest thing to defend because I'm so confident in it. And I pray that everyone listening will feel that confident in their faith. And the only way I got that confident in my faith was to read the Bible, to read God's word, to renew my mind, to know what his word says, not what other people are saying, not what I think. Of course, I'm going to use my brain and I'm going to, you know, look at all of the words, but understand them. When I invite the Holy Spirit in, God reveals to you what those, all of those words are without our own perception of them. I hope that makes sense.
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Ali Schnappy
Oh, makes so much sense. And I will say it made me think of this. I think an area that I do struggle when it comes to my faith and posting about it in the perfect Christian is I just started this podcast, the Jaywalkers Podcast, this year, and so I've been speaking a lot more about my faith. Every single weekend, I'm getting more comments about me. And oh, is what she's saying like that? That sounded so dumb. Or is this even right? Or how can we trust this girl? She's so young. And so I think an area that the enemy attacks my mind is not if I should post about God, but if I'm worthy enough to talk about God. And it reminds me so much. I was reading scripture last week and I was in Exodus, and God really used this story in the Bible. And if you guys are new to your faith or you're just kind of discovering, a lot of times when you read scripture, God will literally show you yourself in a story and speak to you like crazy. And he did this with me, and I was reading this story of Moses when God calls Moses to stand before Pharaoh and declare that Pharaoh let his people go out of slavery in Egypt. And Moses, when he gets this call, he's scared. He makes every excuse why he's not qualified, why he's not worthy. And finally the Lord stops, stops him and says, moses, who made a person's mouth, who decides if they speak and do not speak, hear and do not hear, see and do not see. Is it not I, the Lord, like you? Go, and I will give you the words to speak. And the Lord strengthened my heart so much. And I hope this strengthens the heart of you guys that are Listening and maybe feeling. Feeling unqualified because of comments or even things that you feel about yourself to do what God's called you to do, that as long as you're obedient, the outcome is on God.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yeah.
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Ali Schnappy
All I have to do is my part, and he can change people's hearts. He's going to give us the words to speak like he. He has it all under control. We just have to say yes.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yeah. That's so good, Ali. So how do you think? Because you're both in. In all three of us are on social media, YouTube, Instagram, all the things you know, even as someone who's in a believer and in Christ, what you just said is so powerful. But for the person listening that, again, they're like, gosh, they just. They. They know what they're talking about. They know what they know scripture. I don't even know where to start. And I don't have that girlfriend group to even start with. What? How can we be encouragement to those people? And how can we be that encouragement, specifically on social media?
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Natasha Bure
Could you repeat the question? Sorry.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yes, ma'am, I will repeat the question.
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Natasha Bure
I got lost halfway through.
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Candace Cameron Bure
It's okay. Talking about if being a Christian looks too perfect and it can feel overwhelming to people. I'm asking the question, how do we better share Christ with people on social media?
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Natasha Bure
I think the best way is through action and showing the, you know, the light of Christ living inside you. I could hear a bunch of scripture all day long, and I could hear stories and all the things. But truly, for me personally, the way that I've been impacted the most is by the people around me that I've just seen live out their faith silently and just moving through life. I've seen that in so many different girlfriends of mine my age. I've seen it through you. I've seen it through Lev and my dad, and everyone is at a different place. And I think that that's also something I've really had to understand is that there is no perfect Christian. There is no level of, I'm a better Christian than you. I'm further along. Like, everyone is at a different place of their walk. And I feel like when I was able to take that stress off and say, okay, I might not know as many scriptures, I might not have them all memorized as much as my brother does, but my relationship looks different and here's how. And I'm able to really walk with Christ every single day and have my own talks with him and my own walk and things like that. And that's been so encouraging to me. And so I feel like for anyone who does, I mean, we all have social media, right? But it's just the way that we live our life and how does that translate? And I feel like people can sniff out authenticity. Hello. Better than anything, you know, and so I feel like rather than even just saying it, as much as I think that that's great, and I will continue to do that, and I'm sure we all will, but it's really in how we live our lives that I think makes the biggest impact.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yeah, I. I would also, just, in listening to this conversation would encourage each of us. Me too. Because I think when we have been walking in faith for several years, that is when the Christianese happens. And because we do, we have a language. I know a believer when I see them, like, oh, me too. You can talk to someone. Sometimes you just see it on their face. It's literally the glow of Jesus on their face. But sometimes you say two sentences and you're like, you're a believer, aren't you? Like, you just know from the words that they use. And so sometimes we forget that and we. We use that. That language that's so familiar to us, that are walking with the Lord. So it's a good reminder. And I know the church does this. I mean, we can fight about this in a whole other podcast because it's churches that are like the fluffy church versus like the real Bible teaching church. But you have new believers, and then you have believers that have been walking with God a long time. And I know that's what the church faces. All the. The balance of welcoming and having something easy enough on the basic level. You know, it's the milk to drink, but then you also want the meat to eat for the people that have been walking. So my reminder is to say, you know, maybe once in a while we get on social media and go, hey, welcome all you new people, new people in faith. And I just want to remind you, I'm a Christian. Doesn't mean I'm perfect, doesn't mean I'm good, but I'm saved by grace or whatever the words you want. Like, that would. That would probably be a good thing every once in a while to remind.
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Ali Schnappy
People the basics and saying, this is how I learned to read my Bible. Yeah, I get that all the time. You guys get that question all the time.
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Natasha Bure
Where do I start? I don't even know where to start.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yes.
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Ali Schnappy
And you know what's so encouraging, too, if you're feeling that is we all started somewhere. I think about every New Year's resolution when I decide I'm gonna get really fit and go to the gym. I feel so awkward when I go in that gym because I feel like people are looking at me. I don't know how to use the machines. I don't know what to do. I feel out of place, like a baby in there. And so I don't go. I'll go a week and then I'll just. It's too intimidating for me. But I'm only hurting myself because the truth is every single person in there started from somewhere. Nobody walked in and was the most ripped person in the gym. They all started at a day one. And so just encouraging you, I started at a day one where the Lord, I. Maybe I grew up in a Christian household, but I really didn't know him for myself until I was like 17.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yeah.
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Ali Schnappy
And I know, like, same with you guys. You guys started at a day one. The Bible even talks about don't despising small beginnings. So if you wake up today and you pray to God, that's enough. Like, the Lord is only focused on our heart.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yeah.
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Ali Schnappy
How freeing is that? Like, that's it. Just our heart.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Guys, that was so good. Let's take a listener question. Today's is from Phoebe. She says, hi, I'm Phoebe. I'm 12. Guys. This excites me so much. Hi, Phoebe. I love when young, young people listen to this podcast. Me and my mom. Are you from Australia? Oh, watch you from Australia. I'm so smart. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Phoebe. My question is sometimes I lose faith in God at hard times. What should I do? I often think about at her, at her age, at age 12, losing faith in God. I probably. I probably would think that it's when you pray prayers and God isn't answering them the way that you want, can feel like God isn't there. But we know because scripture tells us that God is always with us. He's been with us and throughout the ages when we weren't here, when we won't be here, he's never, ever leaves us. And sometimes God answers prayers with a yes, sometimes with a no, sometimes with a wait. And a wait doesn't mean it's not answered. It just means it's not in the right time. And so, Phoebe, I would encourage you to never stop praying. You can talk to God however you want. You can ask him really hard questions. You can tell him that you don't feel like he's with you anymore. You can share all your feelings with Him. And he will listen to you and ask him to show you. Ask him to show you, to kind of make you. Make you know that he's there in a way that you feel loved. Because God is always there. And that's what you have to rest upon. Because Scripture tells us even when we don't feel like things, it doesn't mean they're truthful. So we can feel like he's not there. But God's word tells us that he is always with you.
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Ali Schnappy
Yeah, don't give up.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Don't give up.
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Ali Schnappy
Don't give up on who, who God says that he is. You know, His Word says that he's with you. He never leaves you nor forsakes you. And honestly, Phoebe, for me personally, when I was really sick and I felt like I was wavering in my faith, God wasn't there. I just chose to make myself continue to believe that he was going to turn everything around for good. And I didn't let myself think otherwise. And I truthfully believe, and this is for everyone listening, too, that the time when we're tempted to give up the most is usually right before God's greatest breakthrough in our lives. And that was my story. And I've heard so many amazing stories where God showed up in people's lives right as soon as they were about to give up, when they pushed that extra push. And so don't give up. Believe that God is with you. And I promise you that he will show up. He always has.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yep. Great answer. Thanks, ladies. I'm so happy we get to have these conversations. And I can't wait until next week when life feels full of pressure. Gratitude can change everything. We made a gratitude guide for you this season with daily reminders and scripture readings. Go to Candice.com to find the link and it's also in our show notes. Until next time, be grateful all day, every day. Candy Rock Entertainment. All rights reserved.