Carey caught up with Rich Villodas backstage at Exponential to talk about the learnable skills that keep leaders and congregations non-anxious in an angry age, and the unique challenges and gifting needed to lead a church you didn't plant.

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THE ART OF PREACHING

I've been preaching for more than 30 years and I've made just about every mistake you can make, more than once. That's why I created The Art of Preaching, a step-by-step course to help you preach with clarity, confidence, and impact, featuring insights from communicators like Faith Eury Cho, Mark Clark, and Megan Fate Marshman. Enrollment is open now—check it out at theartofpreachingcourse.com.

VICTORY BEYOND THE CUP

The 2026 FIFA World Cup is one of the most significant outreach opportunities of our lifetime—and Victory Beyond the Cup is equipping churches to make the most of it. They're offering free Pastor Kits and Host Kits to help you run meaningful events all summer long. Claim yours here.

LIFESTONE MINISTRIES

The Quarterly Bible Curriculum from LifeStone Ministries has been serving churches for over 120 years. The Adult Bible Class is a verse-by-verse, theologically sound resource that gives teachers and students everything they need with confidence.

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