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Kelly
Welcome to the carpool podcast with Kelly. So, currently I am cheering for the Seahawks. Thank you for having me, Seahawks fans. Go Birds. Go Hawks. And Liz.
Liz
Sydney one day went into my closet, took my Uggs, cut the tag label off of my Uggs, and glued them onto her fake Uggs.
Kelly
Your mom time off starts now. Back to the carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz.
Liz
Hey, Liz. Hey, Cal. How are you?
Kelly
I'm freezing my Butsy off.
Liz
Huh?
Kelly
It is so cold. We've been so spoiled in the Midwest in Missouri this year because, like, winter's been, like, 45 degrees. Like, it's been like, oh, I need this coat. But it hasn't been chill to the bone. And this week, it's back with vengeance. It's chill to the bone.
Liz
I know.
Kelly
And it's had the worst morning because I had two press cars this week, the Ford Expedition and the Hummer. In total, we had, like, six car seats installed between those two cars. And I understand that, like, I'm the car. I'm the cpst, but, like, uninstalling car seats in the cold is a blue job. Like, that is a job for the truck Dad. I don't need to be. And I forgot to tell him before he left today that there was car seats in there. And then I had to, you know, I. I couldn't. There's no way. Until it warms up because, like, they come in the morning, right? And so then I had to. I was, like, dressed for my workout, like, with my cute, like, little leggings and, like, my little, like, Lululemon top. And I was about to go downstairs and work out, and then I remembered about the car seats. Had to go back upstairs. Had to, like, literally bundle up. Like, I was on a ski trip, and I had to uninstall all these car seats. And it was so hard because, like, I didn't have the mobility with the gloves on. But then I would literally freeze if I took the gloves off. Yeah. It was the worst experience of my life. I had to eventually just sit in the car and, like, wait for it to warm up and then, like, close all the doors to uninstall them.
Liz
Yeah, that's what I would do if we said it once, we said it a million times. Like, being a car reviewer in the winter is so awful. Like, we have some really hot days in Missouri, and we're like, screw this. Like, hate this. Blah, blah, blah. I would take that. I would take the hottest day in Missouri to film a car tour over the coldest day any day of the week.
Kelly
No. 100, like, and I need to like film myself, like talking to myself in the future. Like, don't you dare complain when it's hot outside because this is not it. Yeah, I know. So that was my morning. That was my freaking morning. And I was gonna like put on makeup to record this and like look cute. But one, I ran out of time because of the car seats. And two, I'm doing something really exciting this afternoon. I'm going to get a facial.
Liz
Good for you. Way to prioritize your self care.
Kelly
Well, ever since I got the hydrafacial and it was like not a fun experience at all because it was like I talked about this. It was too. Yeah, no, it was like it felt like a medical procedure and this is not what I was after. Like, I'm trying to relax. I'm trying to like, you know, lower, lower my cortisol, reduce my anxiety. And the hydrafacial did not do that. So I'm just getting like a regular degular facial today.
Liz
Okay. I'll be curious to know how you feel about it because what I recently got. Recently it was like a year ago the last time I got a facial and it was like a total spa experience. Like, you sit in the quiet room. Like you whatever.
Kelly
Oh no, I don't want to do that. That gives me anxiety. I don't want to do that.
Liz
But that's what I'm saying. It was like the full spa experience and then I laid on the thing and whatever the laid on the table and they did it and she did it. I was like, get me out of here. Like there are a million things I could be doing right now. Like I remember you talking about my time on a facial. So I'll be curious to know if you, if you are able to relax.
Kelly
Well. And like, it's so cold. Like I can't imagine them like telling me to take my clothes off and like get under a heated blanket. Like, no, I'll just keep my clothes hot and get under this heated blanket. Literally.
Liz
Well, since I didn't know you were doing that. And it only feels right. If you're going to go do a spa experience today, I should go do something for myself today. So I'm going to go get my toes done. Because a rule that I have is just set in place for my life and is that when I am pregnant, I do not do my own toes. I get pedicures when I'm pregnant. And granted, I could do my own toes because I can still reach my toes. It's more of a rule for the, you know, second or third trimester, but I'm like, let's just extend it. Like, I'm going through so much right now. Let's just not even give me the choice. So I'm gonna go get my toes done. While you're doing that.
Kelly
Can I just ask a question?
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
Why, like, literally no one's going to see your toe?
Liz
Okay. So you know what? And I'm happy. I'm happy you're asking this. Since I got my hardwood floors redone, I could not, like, mom in socks in my house, so I have to just be barefoot all the time because I can't move around. I'm not. I'm not dexterous enough. Like, I'm slipping. I'm sliding. Like, Sloan's climbing on the table. I got to run there as quick as possible. I can't be slipping and sliding and in socks. So I always have bare feet around my house, and I don't really leave my house.
Kelly
Okay, you're wrong. For that. You need to get a house slipper.
Liz
I have a house slipper, and I need to get a new house slipper. I just, like, I'm in between house slippers right now, and I need to. I need to just, like, order some on Amazon. It's, like, literally on my to do list off Amazon.
Kelly
Look at the ones. Are you seeing my screen?
Liz
I can see your screen. I don't like that much of a platform. I find platforms. I'm going to twist my ankle. You've got, like, platform me looking Uggs on.
Kelly
These are fugs from Amazon. I literally don't. And I'm not one to, like, love an Amazon clothing dupe. I've talked about this at length. These are the Ugg ones. Like, I don't know why you would ever spend more than 39 on these. Like, if you have like that, like, you lit money on fire if you bought the real Uggs and not these ones. And I'm sorry to tell you that.
Liz
Yeah, okay. Yeah, No, I know. I'm just. I'm just in between.
Kelly
Who in high school was it? Sydney. Who? One of our siblings.
Liz
It was Sydney. Sydney. I'll tell the story. My mom bought. I had real. Me and Kelly had real Uggs because we were older. My. My. Our younger sisters had fake Uggs because they were growing.
Kelly
Like, your feet are growing. Yeah.
Liz
Your feet are growing. Like, we were. We were what our size was.
Kelly
They were like that Bear Paw brand.
Liz
Yeah. So they didn't have a label on them. Like, whatever. Sydney one day, went into my closet, took my Uggs, cut the tag label off of my Uggs, and glued fake Uggs. And I know what you're thinking, like, okay, like, whatever that is.
Kelly
The.
Liz
That was the biggest freaking deal when we were in. What were we, probably eighth grade, freshman year or something like that.
Kelly
Yeah, no, right? Like, that was such a crazy thing to do.
Liz
I was. She. I mean, she didn't ruin my Uggs. I could still wear them, but it was like, what the heck?
Kelly
She took the best part off of the Uggs, which was the Ugg label. Sisters. And if you don't have a sister, you don't understand how. Like, if.
Liz
If you don't have a sister, you don't understand. Speaking of sisters, I'm gonna have sisters.
Kelly
Oh, my gosh.
Liz
We have.
Kelly
Oh, my gosh.
Liz
I found out that I am having a baby girl, and I am so shocked.
Kelly
I'm floored.
Liz
And I'm still, like, wrapping my brain around it. I don't know if anyone else has had this experience, but I do feel like. So when I found out I was having a boy with James, I was thrilled. I didn't care. I was just so happy to be pregnant. Like, it didn't matter what I was gonna have. Like, I was so excited. Then when I found out that I was having a girl with Sloane, I was maybe even more excited because I always wanted a girl. And then I was like, I'll have one of each. This is the dream. Like, this is wonderful.
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Liz
And then when I found out I was having a girl, I was like, oh, my gosh. This is, like, now the dynamics of my family, like, the third one kind of seals in the dynamics of your family. Like, oh, we're a girl. We're a girl. We don't know how many kids we're gonna have. We're a girl heavy family.
Kelly
Yeah.
Liz
I didn't know we were gonna be a girl heavy family. I didn't know. I didn't know what we were gonna be. I didn't care what we were gonna be, but it's just like, oh, wow, now I'm picturing, like, Sloan and what that looks like for her, and I'm picturing James and what potentially not having a brother looks like for him. And there, like, so many mixed emotions surrounding this one gender, and I don't think it's gender disappointment. And I also don't think I would have. I feel like I'd be feeling either way if it was a boy or a girl, but it's just this very weird thing that I'm trying to like wrap my head around.
Kelly
Well, transparently, again, I. I have two boys, two girls. Like, couldn't be better. Couldn't be better.
Liz
Totally.
Kelly
But I have a. I always felt a little. Again, it's not gender disappointment, but I wish that I would have. This is gonna sound so bad, but I'm. Let me just say my. Let me just say my piece and then you guys don't have to like come for me what I'm gonna say. But me and you were so close in age that I was like, oh, I. I think. I don't wanna say it's better or I wish up. But like George and Hattie and Fred and Libby are so close, but they're different genders. So like the boys are further apart in age and my girls are further apart in age. So the fact that like you didn't skip one and that you're going to have close in age. Yeah, like, I just don't know if my kids are going to be my girls and my boys are going to be each other's built in best friends. Like you and I were like, I have to look at my relationship with Sydney.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
Because. Because this is our age gap. And I mean, I think it's already like, you know, as you get older, your age gap gets less and less and less noticeable. But growing up, like, I wouldn't say Cindy and I were super close because, like, you and I were super close.
Liz
No, I mean, I would say Sydney and I were actively not close because she was cutting the labels off of my uggs.
Kelly
Remember what also Sydney did to me in the back of mom's van, which she wrote, oh my gosh, Sydney was.
Liz
Such a little devilish child. And. That sounds harsh. That's the only way to describe her.
Kelly
Also, Sydney had a sleepwalking problem and she always wore these freaking nightgowns. It's like little nightgowns. And you had this crazy bedhead. And like she was like, we were upstairs and we're downstairs and like lightning would strike and you would look next.
Liz
To your bed and Sydney would be there. It was so scary.
Kelly
Anyway, so then one time, this had to be. She was old enough to spell. Okay?
Liz
To spell and to write.
Kelly
Well, in the. In the back of mom's conversion van, she took a marker.
Liz
And she wrote Kill Kelly.
Kelly
What?
Liz
What did she write? Like kill Bill. Kill Kelly. Like she wrote killed. It was like me and Bill.
Kelly
Who's Bill?
Liz
I don't know.
Kelly
And so then picture that. So then she's writing that. And then the next thunderstorm, I have a little like nightgown nightmare child looking over my bed. And then she's like, can I sleep with you?
Liz
I don't know. So yeah.
Kelly
So like that's what Hattie and that's.
Liz
What Hattie and Libby have to look forward to. Totally. Another unhinged thing Sydney did was there was like a show and tell in like second grade and Sydney got like sent home or called mom or whatever because Sydney brought ninja throwing stars. I guess Craig. Craig had ninja throwing stars like as. Like they were like a collector's item. Like he didn't use them, but they were like Craig was older. Whatever. That's what he had. He had these ninjas throwing stars. And Sydney stole them and brought them to school. And my mom gets a call like, your daughter brought a weapon in second grade.
Kelly
I know. Which a bit dramatic.
Liz
Dramatic. I mean, come on.
Kelly
Dramatic.
Liz
But with Sydney, who knows? Between the kill Kelly, we don't know if there was a bill in her class. Like, I don't know. She was cr. I mean, crazy.
Kelly
She met. Sydney's not here to defend herself because.
Liz
Yeah, it's all indefensible.
Kelly
She has some splaining to do.
Liz
So anyway, that's. I'm. But I'm so excited. I'm so like, I love girls. Like I always wanted girls. I love sisters. I'm just like, I'm so excited to have my little besties. So baby girl coming in August.
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Kelly
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Liz
And I have no, I have some ideas but like nothing that I'm obsessed with. So I need to talk to Naming Baby. She told me she has a name in mind for me.
Kelly
I'm obsessed with naming Bebe. She's like such a fun Instagram follow. And like I'm never, I'm not naming any more babies and I still love following her. And she has a podcast and they had the funniest take the other day because they were talking about the name Olivia and like Olivia is like such a beautiful name. It's also like one of the most popular names out there. And this other girl in the podcast was like, yeah, everyone wants the Olivia alternative. And then they're mad when they don't like it because they just want. They just like the name Olivia.
Liz
Totally like.
Kelly
And I think something that naming Baby does a good job of like kind of hitting home is like you have to hear a name and then sit with it. Like we're so quick to be like, hey, no, don't like it. And sometimes you just have to, like, chill for a second. Like, you don't. It's just as long as it's not an immediate no. Just, like, sit with it.
Liz
That's what I've been doing. Like, any name that I don't have an immediate, like, horrible gut reaction to, I put it on a list.
Kelly
And.
Liz
And that's. That's my approach. Some suggestions that I do have for naming baby, I talked about on my stories about how Maddie, like, had this girl name. And I was like, where did you get this name from? And he was like, it's one of my top five favorite Roman emperors. And then my DMs were like, oh, are all husbands the same? Because apparently many ladies have had this conversation with their husband about them wanting to be named after Roman emperors.
Kelly
Well, Roman emperors are Roman emperors wives?
Liz
No, it's a Roman emperor. It's like a. Derived from.
Kelly
Oh, okay. Yeah, Yeah.
Liz
I don't want to say the name because I don't think. Well, I mean, I don't think we're gonna use it, but I also. Like, Whatever. I'm not gonna say it yet.
Kelly
What do you know?
Liz
Anyway, I think naming Bebe needs to look at a list of Roman emperors and give us, like, cute, modernized takes on it. So when our husbands are like, can we name our child Maximus or Titan or whatever, there's like, well, okay, like, let's play with this. Like, how can this be cute? And then we can, you know, have a happy meeting.
Kelly
Totally.
Liz
So that's my free content idea.
Kelly
I also think naming a third child really kind of sets the tone for your naming style. Like, for example, George and Hattie could have gone a lot of different directions once we added Fred to the mix. Yeah, it totally changed the vibe of George and Hattie.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
Which is why I felt like Libby. I don't know. That was, like, so hard naming Libby. And I'm so happy. And, like, that was a list that was a listener submission. Because I loved Elizabeth, but I was gonna do Betty as her name. Like, Elizabeth. Call her Betty. But then I would have Freddie and Betty, Fred and Betty Rubble. Like, it just wouldn't. It would have been bad. It would have been bad.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
So Libby's, like, a little cuter too.
Liz
She said, you know what? I don't think our names all go together like mom and dad did. 100 siblings, like, no. Kelly, Elizabeth, Craig, Sydney and Grayson. Like, what even is that?
Kelly
Sydney and Grayson are such wild cards.
Liz
They yeah, they got creative 100.
Kelly
Well, they had five kids. Okay. So I'm trying something today called the Olsen talk. Have you heard of this?
Liz
Huh? I have.
Kelly
Okay, so all these, like, fashion influency, girly pops I'm following, they're always like, this sweater's amazing for the Olsen Talk. And I'm like, what is an Olsen Talk? Like, I'm thinking it's like a way you tuck it into your pants. No, it's when you just keep your hair in your clothes.
Liz
So I see that you are going for the Olsen tuck. I don't think it's in regards to just, like, a sweatshirt with no makeup on. I think you're supposed to do it when you're, like, kind of look fabulous and you have, like, a sweater and then you look, like, effortless.
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Kelly
Because it's a. But, like, it's. It feels like such a tuck that, like, would only exist within, like, Instagram posts. Like, if I saw someone at a coffee shop in a sweater with their hair tucked into their sweater, I feel like, what is this girl doing? Like, does she know her hair sucked into her sweater?
Liz
Yeah, but I agree, like, in the.
Kelly
Curated post, I'm like, oh, she does look like she just threw it on and ran out the door.
Liz
It's so chic. In a paparazzi photo, I would say you look unfinished right now.
Kelly
Okay, I'll pull it out then. But honestly, it was kind of keeping me. Actually was kind of keeping me warm. Like, I'll be totally for real. I thought it was gonna be over stimulating, but, like, there's something so cozy about it.
Liz
Okay, that reminds me of something so crazy I saw on Instagram. You know when you see, like, a post on Instagram and you're like, this is gonna change. Like, I learned something new. It's gonna change my life. You know, like, the puffer jackets that have the. The fur around the hood, and we all wear the fur outside. Did you know we're supposed to be tucking the fur inside? It's supposed to flip in. And I did this the other day. It works. You flip it in so it's around your face and around your ears, and then your head is warm and wind is not, like, penetrating your ears because the fur is not. The fur on the outside doesn't do anything. I thought it was always just like, oh, fashion. I guess it has a purpose. You're supposed to flip it in. Do it, do it. It keeps you so warm.
Kelly
I'm learning so much. Okay.
Liz
Something new I learned.
Kelly
Okay. I know we have, like, some advice, questions and, like, other stuff to get to, but I just have, like, a couple more things on my dump.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
And I was taught. Thinking about this the other day. I was at the grocery store with Libby. And isn't it just so interesting, like, the brands and the companies that just, like, don't have to advertise anymore or just have, like, completely stopped advertising. When I was a kid, every other commercial was for Tic Tacs. Every other commercial was for a KitKat.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
Where are those commercials? Have they just, like, reached enough market share where they can just stop? Like, where is the. Give me a break. Like, why have they just stopped advertising.
Liz
That Kit Kat bar? I do wonder. Was it because maybe they were trying to advertise to, like, children and we were watching children's stuff like this Kit Kat still advertise with Nickelodeon.
Kelly
I just, like, haven't seen a KitKat come across my desk.
Liz
I get that. I get it.
Kelly
Yeah. In forever. And I was inundated with it at one point in my life.
Liz
Yeah. No Tic Tacs. I haven't seen any advertisements.
Kelly
And then I'm thinking, like, think about, like, brands that just, like, literally don't have to advertise because, like, they're just the only one people think of for such a niche. Example, Jiffy Cornbread Mix. I would literally. I would never buy another thing of Cornbread Mix as long as I'd live. Like, I would just never buy that. I would only buy Jiffy.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
But, like, Jiffy hasn't done a dang thing. They haven't upgraded their packaging since the 70s, so.
Liz
True.
Kelly
Like, do they even have marketing departments?
Liz
Well, I mean, they do because they've just been bought out by, like, Kraft or, like, some bigger company.
Kelly
Sure. But, like, there are people, like, working on a team for Jiffy for nothing.
Liz
No, I don't know. I don't know.
Kelly
She looks so interesting.
Liz
I don't know.
Kelly
And I actually have been consuming more commercials lately because I am absolutely obsessed with the show Traders so much. I haven't stopped talking about it. So much so that, like, I'm all caught up on the current season. So now I'm watching Dylan Efron season. First of all, Dylan's amazing, and I am so.
Liz
You slandered him so hard.
Kelly
I slandered. I'm disgusting. I'm disgusting. I slandered him so hard. He is a great. He's great on this show, but this season is freaking wild of traitors.
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Kelly
It is such a good show. If you Are postpartum. Like, it is the perfect postpartum show. Because I find it a little hard to, like, get in and out of. Like, you can't, like, watch an episode a night. Like, you need to kind of just rot.
Liz
Okay.
Kelly
Like, you need to bed rot. And if I was postpartum bed rotting, this is what I would be watching now.
Liz
You have not stopped talking about it. So last night, I went ahead and logged into my peacock account, and then I was like, oh, because I have a free one through into my instacart. And then I had to upgrade.
Kelly
So.
Liz
But then I watched the trailer, and I'm like, oh, God, this looks kind of dumb. And so I didn't watch it.
Kelly
So you didn't watch it?
Liz
No. So I need you to sell me that. It doesn't look dumb.
Kelly
Well, it's a little theatrical. I will say that.
Liz
Theatrical. I'm like, okay, I can't buy into.
Kelly
All this, but I kind of love the guy who hosts it. Like, he always just has these, like, amazing outfits on. And, like, it's like. It's a little like, I don't know why they're always talking about murder, and, like, I don't know why it's a little theatrical, huh? But the premise is really good, and it's just, like. I can't really explain it. It's just a good show.
Liz
Okay.
Kelly
I'm so tired of, like. I just. I feel like there hasn't been, like, good TV put out in a really long time, and I'm just, like, really? I don't, like, very scary. I don't like scary or, like, gory shows. I don't like overly, like, smutty. Like, I just don't watch any of that. I'm trying to protect my piece, protect my content totally. And there's just, like, nothing. Like, there's just not a show I want to watch. So that's why I got so into Dancing with the Stars, because I'm just like. It's just, like. I hate to say, like, good, clean fun. It's just good, clean fun is all that it is.
Liz
Well, when I was like, I don't feel like paying for a subscription right now. This looks theatrical. I went to Netflix because, again, I also finished Desperate Housewives and have not watched something else other than Dancing with the Stars or the Summer I Turned Pretty at all. So I'm like, there has to be so much stuff on Netflix that I haven't even touched. Like, let me dive into that, and I'll let more episodes of Traitors come out. Before I get into it. I watched an excellent movie. It's new.
Kelly
Oh, okay. See, I'm interested in the movie. I'm interested in the movie.
Liz
Let me tell you about it. The people we meet on vacation.
Kelly
I read that book.
Liz
It's a movie and it's excellent. And I said. I clicked on it because I had saw someone post on Instagram, like a clip of the movie and they said, rom coms are back. And it got me so excited. And I have to say, I agree. It was not. It was. It was adult. So, like, they're adults. They're not teenagers. Because I find it sometimes hard to get into the teenage stories.
Kelly
100% agree.
Liz
They're adults. It was, you know, it's like one of those books like, like you said you've read and that's like all these romance movies that were romance books that we're all into. Like, just make those mo. Just make those movies. It was excellent. It was good, clean fun. It was so good. Such a good movie.
Kelly
I'm gonna match it with Tyler tonight because last night he's like, let's watch a movie. And I was like, please, I'm watching Traders. Like, scroll your phone. I have to finish this. But he. I could tell he wanted to watch a movie with me and I kind of shut him down. So I'm going to tell him.
Liz
Yeah, it was really good.
Kelly
That's what I'm saying. Like, get me in and out. Get me in and out. Like, I don't get to these shows.
Liz
Yes. Like, the summer turned pretty. I liked like, God, they drag it out. And what I want is like, I want to be bought into two characters that should be together. I want to have the will they. They won't they? And then I want the they will. And I never move on with my life.
Kelly
100. 100.
Liz
So it just. I'm very encouraged that, that potentially rom coms could be coming back. And I just hope and pray. Okay, Kel, are you ready for some advice questions?
Kelly
I really am, Elizabeth. It's been a minute since you've done advice.
Liz
All right, well, words gonna like really jump into a big one, which is car seats for five kids.
Kelly
Oh, my gosh. Okay. Kick me while I'm.
Liz
It's not so much about the car seats, but. Well, it kind of is. Okay. Hi. Truly could not live without your podcast. I'm looking for some advice on car seat setups in a three row suv. My husband and I have six year old twins. A three year old and twins on the Way. Yep, you got it. That's five kids under six. When all is said and done, we currently have a Chevy Suburban and a Mazda CX5. They always have a Mazda CX5. We need to trade the Mazda CX5 in for something else ASAP. It would be lovely for you to tell me exactly what I need to do.
Kelly
Okay, so they want something that can fit all five kids that's smaller than the Suburban.
Liz
I don't know if that's really what they're. That's really what they're asking for. I mean, maybe, maybe to fit a couple kids, but. Okay.
Kelly
Hands down, like, the choice here is so obvious to me.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
Do you want to try?
Liz
No, you can go.
Kelly
Let's say it on three.
Liz
One, two, three. Minivan.
Kelly
Volkswagen. Alice.
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Kelly
Oh, I assumed. Okay, I don't think they want a minivan because I think if they were gonna buy a minivan, they wouldn't have bought a Suburban.
Liz
Because, yes, when you have five kids in car seats, you don't really get a lot of.
Kelly
Okay, well, we'll give them two then. If you want to, like, have something cute, fun, like zip around town and that can fit all five kids if needed. But like, really, maybe just for like the older kids to like, go to and from, like a secondary. The Volkswagen Atlas bench seat. Chef's kiss. I have no notes for you in that car. It has five seats because it's got two in the third row, three across the bench. It's a three across machine. It has a car seat tilt. It sells enough trunk space. There is nothing. There is nothing not to like about it for you. Like, that is the only option in the full size midsize market. I guess you could give it. You could maybe convince me to do a Honda Pilot with the bench, but actually you can't because it doesn't have a car seat tilt. So like. So obviously I'm. It's the Volkswagen Atlas.
Liz
Okay.
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Liz
Yeah, I get that. I was thinking more.
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Liz
Obviously they have a Chevy Suburban. They're. They're want to train a Mazda CS5. I don't think they want another full size SUV, but something that'll be cheaper but can still fit all the kids easily.
Kelly
Well, then sure, then either do a Carnival or an Odyssey. Yeah, but the problem with the minivans is the good bench seats, AKA the Odyssey and the Carnival, don't have car seat tilt. And doing three across in a third row is significantly harder and more cumbersome, especially as the kids get older. Then it is in the second row. So it's kind of all coming up Atlas. Or if you just like want another full size, it's obviously Expedition.
Liz
Yeah, I'm locking in. Okay, Kyle, this next one. Advice, third child, new car. I feel like it's when you add that third child into your life that you actually need to start thinking about.
Kelly
Totally agree. Totally agree. So, well, that's when some cars completely stop working. Like almost every car can handle the two car seats. Like, are you squished? Is it. Are you out of room? Like X, Y and Z? Sure. But like when you go to three, there are cars that just no longer work.
Liz
There's no cars that no longer work. There's car seats that just no longer work. It's like you just have to get new car seats. So let's read this one. I have two kids who both use the Duna as newborns. The Duna has since expired and we're pregnant with baby number three. So we're officially back in the market for a new infant car seat. Adding another layer, this, we recently got a new car. A 2024 Ford Expedition Platinum with a bench seat. Okay, so this one's about car seats. Perfect. My current, my current kids are 2 and 4, both in Chico 360s. One rear facing, one forward facing. I plan to put the forward facing child in the middle like George in my rear facing on the passenger side. I'm planning to buy a harness to booster seat for my oldest. He's four. And we don't need the spinning feature in the middle seat which would also free up some space since the 360 is pretty wide. I've been looking at the Kiko, my fit and the Graco transitions. But I'm trying to think ahead. If we were to have a fourth child, this seat would likely need to move to the third row, which is not Ripple headrest. Any advice there? For the infant seat, I was considering a baseless option like a Graco Go Max or the Joy Mint. I like the idea of having the open seat when the baby isn't riding with us. That said, I'm not married to the baseless idea if there's a better option. Overall, we really don't have any major restraints or filters helping us narrow things down, which is making it hard to choose. So I guess my main question is, in your dream world, what are the two best car seats to buy? One infancy and one forward facing slash harness to boost her seat. My other child will stay in his Kiko 360.
Kelly
Oh, this is a tough so I think the doyment latches chef's kiss. Like I would tell you to do that.
Liz
I will be, I will be purchasing a joyment latch for my third.
Kelly
It is such a great seat.
Liz
Like I'm so excited.
Kelly
Notes. I have none. Your second question I is is a lot more complicated a harness to booster seat that is slim enough to go in the middle seat now will transition good enough to the third row when needed. I don't love any of the. I don't really have a great option. And I would personally just tell you to keep them in the Kiko360 in the middle and then when they're ready for a booster, I would get the Diona Cambria or the Nuna Ace because those are not a rule. Header straight in the third row and then by the time maybe the baby's out of the mint latch, they can go to the other rotating one and then your kid go to the booster seat in the third row.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
And I'm gonna lock in with that answer.
Liz
Yeah. You know car seats are expensive. So I don't like say this like super like willy nilly. But like sometimes it's like you have to think about, okay, well if this kid is in this seat right now, then this kid can move to the seat and maybe the seat no longer.
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Liz
But then we have an extra seat in my husband's car for when he has to take one or two of the kids or we have a seat for a grandparents car. Like you might just have to. I mean I think it's, I think it's smart that she's thinking, thinking ahead. Like always forecast your family's growth. But you know, also sometimes it's just like what gets me through the right now 100%.
Kelly
Can I go back to my dump for like two seconds?
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
Okay. So I was scrolling Instagram the other day and there is something called a world clap day. Have you heard of this?
Liz
I feel like I heard of it like last world clap day.
Kelly
Right. Okay. So it's only of note because the world clap day is when everyone across the world does a single clap at one time. But it's on my birthday. It's August 16, 2026, 10:00am New York time. And we're all supposed to do one clap across the entire world.
Liz
Like as soon as it hits 10.
Kelly
As soon as it hits 10am yeah.
Liz
See, I feel like we should just like clap for a minute.
Kelly
100 agree. Like just the single clap where it's gonna be all off.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
But I Want to try to get somewhere public so I can, like, see if anyone else is, like, in on the world Clap day. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't want to be, like, stuck in my house in, like, rural Missouri. Like, let's like go to the mall.
Liz
Okay.
Kelly
On world clap day at 10am Allow me. What time would that be? Our time. That'd be 9am Our time.
Liz
Okay.
Kelly
I also want to hear if anyone's clapping.
Liz
Maybe we can, like, go do something. Maybe like go to breakfast for your birthday and then like, we'll do world clap day while we're there.
Kelly
So fun.
Liz
Kind of fun.
Kelly
So fun. Something to think about.
Liz
Kind of. It's kind of like the eclipse. Why is it giving? Why is it giving? Eclipse.
Kelly
I just love being a part of something and, like, I just hope that's something that, like, I pass on to my kids. Like, just the importance of being a part of things. Like, that's why I'm watching Traders and, like, that's why I'm so into football right now because it's just so fun to feel connected to people, you know?
Sponsor/Ad Reader
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Kelly
Speaking of football, I don't know much, but I do think the game is a tick rigged. Like, the refs have so much power. Like, sometimes I just think it should go to a vote.
Liz
Yeah. No.
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Yeah.
Kelly
The refs can just like, totally obviously change the outcome of a game.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
And like, the Bills people are feeling like if I had any more skin in the game other than like, I became a Bills fan five days ago, like, I don't know how I could wake up and go to work today. Do you know what I mean?
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
And then I'm like, cheering for the Bears. They lose. So now I thought the Bears won. No, the Bears lost.
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Kelly
To the Rams, who I hate. Yeah, we hate because they left St. Louis. Disgusting. I refuse. So now the four teams left are the Broncos, who I can't cheer for because my ex boyfriend was a Broncos fan.
Liz
I've never heard Kelly say my ex boyfriend because you've had like two even since you were 16.
Kelly
And he was a Broncos fan. So pass. The Patriots, which like, sorry, boring, boring. The Rams, which I can't cheer for. So now all my eggs are in the Seahawks nest. I need the Seahawks to win. Here's something interesting about the Seahawks. Here's your little. Anytime I can also squeeze in some Catholic knowledge, I'm going to tell you the last two times a Pope has been elected, the Seahawks have won the Super Bowl.
Liz
Now that's interesting.
Kelly
So When Pope Benedict was elected, the Seahawks won. When Pope Francis was elected, the Seahawks won. Now we have Pope Leo and the Seahawks are.
Liz
That would be crazy.
Kelly
Yeah.
Liz
God's team.
Kelly
Well, I know, but Pope Leo liked the Bears and the Bears lost.
Liz
Well, you know, Pope Leo's not God.
Kelly
So true. When you think about it, he's also not a ref. So like, I don't know. So currently I am cheering for the Seahawks. Thank you for having me, Seahawks fans. Go Birds. Go Hawks.
Liz
Okay, Kyle. Well, are you ready? Wait, do you have any industry news?
Kelly
No, I gave you all of it. Oh, there's nothing going on. No one's doing anything. Let's just get to ditch the drive through because I have some good ones.
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Liz
I had some too, but I'll let you do it.
Kelly
Well, let's just both do it.
Liz
Well, I was going to read some that people have written in.
Kelly
Okay. Read one and then I'll say mine.
Liz
Okay.
Kelly
Sorry. I'm looking at the Seahawks uniform. It's so good.
Liz
I love this one. I love it when people take a actual drive through meal and just make it at home.
Kelly
100.
Liz
So this is KFC Bowls.
Kelly
I was just thinking about. You know why? Because I saw an. I saw an ad on tv. KFC still advertising.
Liz
You need mashed potatoes, crispy chicken frozen popcorn strips, chopped. What I use. Make your own like whatever. This is a make your own mashed potatoes. Use bag mashed potatoes, gravy charred from a packet or homemade corn frozen canned works well seasoned with butter, salt and pepper. If you like shredded cheddar, simply in order listed, layer the prepared ingredients in a bowl and serve.
Kelly
I love what. This is what I call combination cooking when you're just combining things. Yes. I'm using the Bob Evans ready mashed potatoes. I'm using the just bear chicken nuggets. I'm using canned corn. I'm using a pre made gravy. I need to make this. Okay. I'm going to make this this week. That sounds first of all delectable comfort meal. You know what? It'd be great with a side of carbon broccoli or canned green beans. Choose your own adventure there.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
Oh my gosh, I'm so happy you read that one.
Liz
I know that one was excellent. That's what it. And that's what it's. That is what ditch the drive thru is about for me.
Kelly
Yeah, that's such a good one. And like everyone in your family will eat that. Elizabeth and I were talking about this today. I'm forever chasing the High of my whole family sitting around the table eating a dinner that I made. Like, it is.
Liz
It's emotional 100%. I've cried watching my family all eat, like, a steak that I prepared.
Kelly
Yeah.
Liz
Like, a single tear has left my eye.
Kelly
There is nothing more satisfying. And, like, Tyler's always like, why are you cooking every night? I'm like, because I'm addicted to. I'm addicted to the high of you guys eating my food and telling me how good it is.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
And I don't think he knows the power that he holds because, like, when he comes in and he looks at the stove and he goes, babe, like, he likes what I made. Like, there's no. There's nothing else in the world that can top that feeling.
Liz
I know. I'm like. I'm, like, so sad for me because I. James, no one in my family likes to eat. I could literally, I'm not kidding. Not make dinner. And no one would notice. In fact, they would probably enjoy that. I didn't force everyone to sit down and. And eat something. Like, Maddie needs a one meal a day. My kids really need two meals a day, which is the craziest thing because I am such a three square meals a day plus snacks in between person. That's how our whole family is. Like, we all sit down for meals.
Kelly
We're eaters.
Liz
And my kids, I will prepare them food for dinner. They won't eat it. They will go to bed, and they're fine. And I'm kind of like, trying to understand that. Like, maybe I saw this thing on Instagram and it was like, you know what if your kid gets, like, one really good meal in a day, sometimes that's fine. And sometimes parents think, like, oh, well, I just want them to eat. So, like, let me give more animal crackers, more snacks, more whatever, whatever, just so they have calories in their belly. And this Instagram was saying that, like, that's relating to, like, childhood obesity and everything. It's like, they actually don't need as much as you think, which is. Which is weird. And so it's like, don't just, like, try and fill them up with calories that aren't good for them. Like, if they're not going to eat, they're not going to eat. And so all to say, I never get that. And my husband, like, only likes meat, so I'm not, like, preparing, like, a fabulous vegetable that, like, maybe you would say, wow, this is incredible. He's a very plain eater. And my kids don't eat so well.
Kelly
If you'd like to have me over for dinner? I will happily come when you're ready to cook again. If you want me to bring my family over. My family, they're eaters. And I don't know how I got so blessed, but they all.
Liz
They all eat. They all house it. Even Libby. I mean, like, Sloan was a good eater for a little bit, and now she's like, just choosing not to eat. Just throwing everything on the floor.
Kelly
No, I'm sad for you. It will change. It will change. Eventually you will have like, you will have like a gaggle of hungry kids who are going, you're gonna make a meal and they're gonna love it.
Liz
We'll see. I mean, Maddie's parents, both. Only one meal a day. Like, they. The St. John's just don't eat. They just don't eat.
Kelly
Well, it's not too late for. I don't know. We'll figure it out. We'll just get really good at making one fabulous meal a day. Okay, I don't want to, like, make you feel bad, but, like, I would like to, like, tell you the experience I had last night. Great.
Liz
Go ahead. Well, fine. I'll just rub it in your face and tell you. Both my kids slept till 7:30 this morning and slept through the night. So take. Take that. Now tell me about how everyone ate your meal that you made.
Kelly
Couldn't be me. You could check my aura ring. You would have thought I had a newborn last night. How do you and George pissing me off, coming into my bed, all trying to come into my bed. And I don't. We don't want our kids sleep with us. I'm not doing that game. I'm not doing that game. George has gotten smart, though, and he will just sneak into the end of my bed, like where my feet are, and I'll just wake up and I'll accidentally kick him. Driving me crazy. Anyway, last night I made a meatloaf. Now, meatloaf is one of my favorite foods on this earth. Like the Costco meatloaf, Chef's Kiss. It's amazing.
Liz
So good.
Kelly
My meatloaf from home, pretty good too. I do half pork sausage or ground pork, half ground beef. I don't really have a recipe. I just like, add seasonings, breadcrumbs, and eggs and squish it until I like the consistency. A little bit of milk if I have to. For the glaze, I do ketchup, a little balsamic vinegar, a ton of brown sugar. Put it on there, pop it in the Oven for an. It's honestly so easy. It's honestly so easy. They hoovered it. The kids ate, like, three fourths of it. And, like, I had a couple of bites and then tolerate the rest. Like, I barely even got to eat any of my own loaf. And I brought up the point, which, like, this is if you take nothing from me, my advice, my platform, I want it to be this. And I did talk about some of my story, so I apologize if you're hearing it twice. If you are ever at a fancy restaurant, I'm talking, like, if there's a tablecloth, if there's specials, if, you know, if it's. If it's a diner. I'm not saying this. If it's, like, a nice restaurant and they have meatloaf on the menu, 1,000%, order it.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
I got this advice because Bricktops in St. Louis has incredible meatloaf. And when I was at the dinner with friends, who's like, the meatloaf is so good. You have to get the meatloaf. And I'm like, this is like a night out. Like, I'm obviously not getting a meatloaf. Like, come on. Like, I'm obviously gonna get, like, the steak or, like, the pasta. Like, this is a night out. She's like, trust me, get the meatloaf. Didn't get it. Tried our meatloaf. Insane.
Liz
If someone is willing to put the words meatloaf, which is a horrible name, on their menu, it's gonna be good.
Kelly
Similar to, like, when we had to rebrand Sloppy Joe's to Iowa slingers. What can we rename the meatloaf?
Liz
I mean, meatloaf really, like, accurately describes what it is, though. But it needs to be like a. Like a beef.
Kelly
It needs to be like a baked. Like, the word baked, a beef bake, a beef, a baked. Even a baked loaf is better, but that sounds like bread baked meat. It's a meatloaf. It's a meatloaf. It's so good. Anyway, my whole family ate it. They loved it. And I am, like, staring down the barrel of my deep freezer right now, which has so much cube steak. Like, I'm swimming in cube steak. Yeah, I probably have, like, eight packs of cube steak.
Liz
What are you gonna do?
Kelly
Well, I asked Instagram and all people had some good ideas.
Liz
Okay, good.
Kelly
It's just I like learning how to cook with different, more challenging cuts of meat. Like, a roast. Is a roast. Like, you throw it in the crock pot. You know what I mean?
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
A cube steak. It's like tenderized round steak, I believe. So I might try to do. I mean, you could do chicken fried steak, but, like, I just don't want to dredge in flour. Like, I just don't want to do that. So I'm gonna try to do, like, a beef stroganoff with my cube steak. It's kind of my vibe.
Liz
Oh, okay. I love a beef.
Kelly
Yeah, I like to be stroganoff too. So just looking forward to my whole family eating it, loving it, telling me how good it is. And I'm really sorry for you. And I have no advice on how to get this because I don't know what I did, really.
Liz
No, you're just. You are just like, I'm telling you, like, the stumpies are eaters. The sun trips are eaters.
Kelly
I married an eater.
Liz
You married an eater. I married, like. Like, Tyler is the one who, like, when we're out at dinner. And like, you didn't eat the rest of your steak. Like, you hand Tyler your plate. Tyler will eat everyone.
Kelly
Anyone's leftovers.
Liz
Anyone's leftovers.
Kelly
The man has a hollow leg.
Liz
Yeah, so, like, that's the man you married. Maddie eats the same amount as me, slash less.
Kelly
How is he so much bigger than.
Liz
I don't know. It's. It's ridiculous. It's honestly ridiculous. So I just don't have. I don't. I don't have eaters. And honestly, I would love other people to have. I would love. If anyone else feels the same way. I would love for you to sound off because I actually feel like something's wrong, but I'm trying to convince myself that everything's fine, but I don't know what to do. And no one eats in my house.
Kelly
Maybe. So I am my fourth child, as all of you know, and I am looking into hiring two consultants. One, for getting Fred to go poop on the potty, and two, to get Libby to stop waking up at 4. 45.
Liz
Kelly. Molly. Because she knows you're being ridiculous for no reason.
Kelly
Ridiculous. I'm being like everyone who. Like, I'm like, being a mom of three. Mom of three. Like, trying to buy a Volvo XC90.
Liz
Like, I'm just like, you're not listening to Kelly.
Kelly
I'm not listening to reason right now.
Liz
You are. And she. And she can tell. Molly Tart doll. Marley Tartelagia. She's. She's my sleep trainer.
Kelly
Her name sounds so familiar. Maybe I've just seen you post her.
Liz
Because I tag her all the time. Because people are always Asking. She has helped me with James and Sloan when they were babies, and now she's helped me with James as a toddler. And James was sleeping in my bed every single night. And the past three nights, he is not only put. Putting himself to sleep, but he's sleeping in his bed all night until 7:30 the next day.
Kelly
Yeah.
Liz
And Molly, I mean, like, I don't want to give away what she told me to do because, like, that's her whole thing, but it's like, she basically told me to give me, like, two big tips of how to do things differently, and it has changed my life. So you just. You never know, like, what she's going to tell you. Like, she just understands sleep and she just gets it. So you should talk to her.
Kelly
Right. So I'm gonna talk to her and I'm gonna do both. I. My pride is swallowed. Because one thing I mean is I'm tired. Yeah, I'm tired.
Liz
And that's why. That's why they exist.
Kelly
That simply has to be our episode. We've rambled on for far too long.
Liz
Yeah.
Kelly
Far too long.
Liz
Far too long. So that's our so thank you so much for listening to the carpool podcast and we'll talk to you next time.
Kelly
Did you just say that's our sewed.
Liz
That's our sod.
Kelly
I would have gone with epi.
Liz
That's our. No, that's our app. That's our sod.
Kelly
Thanks for listening to the carpool podcast. We'll talk to you next time.
Liz
Bye. Love you.
Kelly
Bye. Thank you for listening to the carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz. Make sure you're subscribed so you never miss an episode. And if you enjoyed riding with us, tell everybody you know there's room in the car for everyone.
The Carpool with Kelly and Lizz | January 21, 2026
In this lively and candid episode, sisters Kelly Stumpe and Lizz St. John—known for car reviews geared toward the millennial mom—share big family news, swap Midwest winter survival stories, reminisce about growing up together, and offer car-seat and family vehicle advice for growing families. Listeners are treated to witty banter, relatable mom moments, and plenty of laughter, all delivered in the duo’s signature unfiltered, sisterly style.
“Uninstalling car seats in the cold is a blue job. Like, that is a job for the truck Dad. I don’t need to be.” – Kelly (01:00)
She laments running out of time for her usual routine, adding,
“I was gonna put on makeup to record this…but I ran out of time because of the car seats.” – Kelly (02:42)
“When I am pregnant, I do not do my own toes. I get pedicures when I’m pregnant. And granted, I could do my own toes…but let’s just extend it.” – Lizz (04:23)
They admit to mixed feelings about spa experiences—desiring relaxation but often feeling anxious or guilty about taking downtime.
“Sydney one day, went into my closet, took my Uggs, cut the tag label off of my Uggs, and glued [them] onto her fake Uggs.” – Lizz (06:33)
“She was like a little nightgown nightmare child…” – Kelly (10:40)
“Sydney brought ninja throwing stars…Mom gets a call like, ‘Your daughter brought a weapon in second grade.’” – Liz (11:46)
Gender Reveal and Reflections on Family Dynamics
Lizz emotionally reveals she’s having another girl, expressing excitement and mixed feelings about raising a “girl-heavy” family and how the “third” child shapes family dynamics:
“I found out I am having a baby girl, and I am so shocked…now the dynamics of my family…like, the third one kind of seals in the dynamics.” – Lizz (07:50, 08:28)
The sisters discuss possible name ideas, noting how the third child’s name “sets the tone” for a sibset (17:40).
Memorable Quote:
“I love girls. I always wanted girls. I love sisters. I’m just, like, I’m so excited to have my little besties. So baby girl coming in August.” – Lizz (12:50)
“Everyone wants the Olivia alternative. And then they’re mad when they don’t like it because they just like the name Olivia.” – Kelly (15:40)
“Apparently many ladies have had this conversation with their husband about them wanting to be named after Roman emperors.” – Lizz (16:34)
“These are fugs from Amazon…I don’t know why you would ever spend more than $39 on these.” – Kelly (06:06)
“You flip it in so it’s around your face and around your ears, and then your head is warm and wind is not, like, penetrating your ears…” – Liz (20:01)
“Full size SUVs are great but if you want smaller with three rows, go for the Atlas with bench. It’s a three-across machine.” – Kelly (29:08)
“When you go to three [kids], there are cars that just no longer work.” – Kelly (30:35)
"If you are postpartum...it's the perfect postpartum show. 'Traitors' is just good TV." – Kelly (23:33)
“Rom coms are back. And I have to say, I agree. It was good, clean fun.” – Lizz (25:57)
“I’m forever chasing the high of my whole family sitting around the table eating a dinner that I made.” – Kelly (39:30)
“If you are ever at a fancy restaurant…and they have meatloaf on the menu, 1,000%, order it.” – Kelly (44:33)
On Sibling Drama:
“Sydney brought ninja throwing stars…Mom gets a call like, ‘Your daughter brought a weapon in second grade.’” – Liz (11:46)
On Family Growth:
“When you go to three, there are cars that just no longer work.” – Kelly (30:35)
On Chasing Family Dinner Perfection:
“I’m addicted to the high of you guys eating my food and telling me how good it is.” – Kelly (40:09)
On Gender and Family:
“Now, the dynamics of my family…the third one kind of seals in the dynamics.” – Lizz (08:28)
On Pop Culture Desires:
“There's just not a show I want to watch...I got so into Dancing with the Stars, because it’s just good, clean fun.” – Kelly (24:54)
The entire episode is infused with the hosts’ sincere, hilarious, and warm-hearted banter, blending practical advice, pop culture musings, and genuine reflections on motherhood, marriage, and sisterhood.
Summary prepared for listeners who want all the highlights, laughs, and useful advice—no seatbelt required!