BECAUSE IT'S THE HOLIDAYS

Summary

Summary of "BECAUSE IT'S THE HOLIDAYS" Episode of The Carpool with Kelly and Lizz

Release Date: December 5, 2024

Hosts: Kelly Stumpe and Lizz St. John
Podcast Title: The Carpool with Kelly and Lizz
Podcast Description: Kelly and Lizz, third-generation auto-industry experts and sisters, bring their millennial mom perspectives to discussions about cars, life, and everything in between. Balancing business, friendship, and family, they offer entertaining conversations, auto-industry news, and practical advice for fellow working moms.

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Thanksgiving Reflections and Family Dynamics

The episode kicks off with Kelly and Lizz sharing their recent Thanksgiving experiences, highlighting both the joys and challenges of hosting family gatherings.

• Signature Cocktails to Ease Hosting Stress:
  Lizz (02:50) shared her insights on simplifying Thanksgiving preparations by introducing a signature drink for guests upon arrival.

  "I said have a pitcher of lemon drops or a pitcher of espresso martinis when everyone gets there."

• Balancing Family Time and Parenting:
  Kelly (04:05) expressed feeling overwhelmed by managing conversations while taking care of her children.

  "I felt like I was having small conversations in between chasing Kit, feeding a baby and chasing a toddler."

• Improving the Meal Experience:
  Both hosts celebrated the success of their Thanksgiving meal, with Kelly admitting a change of heart towards traditional Thanksgiving dishes.

  Kelly (04:50): "I take back what I said about not liking Thanksgiving food. I loved it."

• Dessert Dilemmas:
  Lizz (05:05) lamented the absence of a chocolate dessert, emphasizing its importance in the Thanksgiving spread.

  "I do feel as though a chocolate dessert is necessary."

Financial Talk: Bills We Hate to Pay

Transitioning from family topics, Kelly and Lizz discussed their least favorite bills, shedding light on the financial burdens many moms face.

• Medical Bills Frustration:
  Both hosts unanimously agreed that medical bills are the most dreaded.

  Liz (07:20): "I hate every time I'll pay a medical bill and then, like, I'll get a check back for 45, because then they had the numbers wrong."

• Insurance Woes:
  They also expressed disdain for insurance payments, questioning their tangible benefits.

  Kelly (08:23): "I'm like, what am I paying for. I don't see what I'm paying for."

December Advice: Embrace the Holiday Joy

Lizz delivered the episode’s monthly advice segment, encouraging listeners to fully immerse themselves in the holiday spirit.

• Don’t Delay the Joy:
  Lizz (09:03) urged listeners to seize the festive moments of December.

  "Don’t delay the joy. It's the holidays. Everything's just, you know, it’s va, va voom."

• Festive Attire and Celebrations:
  Both hosts emphasized dressing up and celebrating the season with gusto.

  Kelly (09:33): "It's the holidays. It's the holidays. That's the only excuse you need to do literally anything."

Hosting Holiday Parties: Tips and Tricks

Lizz shared her plans for an upcoming girls' holiday party, offering practical advice for hosting stress-free gatherings.

• Setting Clear Boundaries:
  She discussed the importance of specifying start and end times to manage expectations.

  Liz (10:32): "It's for women only. No kids and no husbands."

• Menu Planning:
  The sisters deliberated over whether to prepare or order appetizers, ultimately leaning towards ordering to save time.

  Liz (15:23): "I think you need heavy apps. I think we need like a good charcuterie board and like maybe a crock pot dip."

• Fun Activities:
  Lizz introduced a game idea, “Rob Your Neighbor,” and the concept of door prizes involving her PR collections.

  Liz (13:15): "Everyone brings their favorite beauty product...and then we play Rob your neighbor."

Advice Q&A: Navigating Gift-Giving with In-Laws

Kelly posed a listener question about instituting a Secret Santa among her husband’s siblings to manage the growing family's gift-giving demands.

• Secret Santa vs. Individual Gifts:
  Liz (25:03) recommended setting clear boundaries and suggested possibly pooling gift funds for the in-laws.

  "Anytime it’s the in-laws, it’s not your problem to solve. It’s your husband’s problem to solve."

• Practical Solutions:
  Kelly considered proposing a collaborative gift approach to reduce individual spending, aiming to ease the pressure of buying for an expanding family.

  Kelly (25:15): "Maybe buy her all the ingredients to make bone broth, hot chocolate."

Advice Q&A: Buyer’s Remorse Over Vehicle Purchase

A listener sought advice on whether to trade in a paid-off 2019 Suburban Premier for a more fuel-efficient minivan, considering family needs and usage.

• Assessing Practical Needs:
  Liz (29:54) suggested that transitioning to a minivan could better suit their trunk space and family dynamics.

  "I think that it will give you similar space to the Suburban."

• Financial Considerations:
  The hosts discussed potential financial implications, including sales tax and depreciation, advising careful evaluation before making a decision.

  Liz (31:07): "If it depreciated in value, like six grand and you only drove for three months or two months, that might hurt."

Industry News: NHTSA’s Automatic Emergency Braking Regulation

Kelly and Lizz delved into the latest auto industry developments, focusing on the federal mandate for automatic emergency braking (AEB) in all new vehicles by 2029.

• Regulation Overview:
  The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) is enforcing AEB technology to enhance vehicle safety, despite resistance from the auto industry.

  Liz (34:41): "NHTSA said the AEB saves lives and prevents crashes."

• Auto Industry’s Pushback:
  The Alliance of Automotive Innovation, representing major U.S. automakers, criticized the regulation as costly and impractical, fearing it would frustrate drivers and inflate vehicle prices.

  Liz (38:28): "It's a really disastrous decision by the nation's top safety regulator that will endlessly and unnecessarily frustrate drivers."

• Host Perspectives:
  Both Kelly and Lizz sided with NHTSA, emphasizing the life-saving potential of AEB and expressing skepticism towards the auto industry's motives.

  Kelly (38:05): "I’m going to choose NHTSA because it's not that hard."

Drive-Through: Easy Holiday Dinner Recipes

In the Drive-Through segment, Kelly and Lizz shared their favorite quick and effortless dinner recipes to help listeners navigate the busy holiday season.

• Homemade Pizza Night:
  Lizz recounted her attempts at making pizza dough, highlighting the challenges of flour prep but ultimately encouraging the effort due to the superior taste.

  Liz (40:15): "Even a bad pizza is still good."

• Frozen Meal Essentials:
  Kelly emphasized the importance of stocking up on frozen pizzas and Trader Joe’s frozen meals for nights when time and energy are scarce.

  Kelly (42:43): "You have a backup frozen pizza in the freezer."

• Quick Fixes:
  The hosts recommended Trader Joe’s orange chicken with rice as a lifesaver for busy evenings, praising its simplicity and family appeal.

  Kelly (43:53): "Trader Joe's orange chicken with rice. It is so good. It's so easy to make."

Fun Facts: Holiday-Themed Trivia

Adding a lighthearted touch, Kelly and Lizz shared interesting facts related to the holiday season and football.

• Artificial Christmas Trees:
  Kelly (32:14) mentioned the origin of artificial Christmas trees made from dyed goose feathers in 19th-century Germany.

  "The first artificial Christmas tree was made in Germany in the 19th century from dyed green goose feathers."

• Detroit Lions Trivia:
  Lizz (33:25) revealed her newfound support for the Detroit Lions, noting their historic association with Thanksgiving.

  "The Lions are the only team in the NFL who doesn't have cheerleaders."

Closing Remarks

Wrapping up the episode, Kelly and Lizz reiterated the importance of enjoying the holiday season, managing festive stress, and staying connected with listeners.

Kelly (47:08): "Thank you so much for listening. Happy December, and we'll talk to you next week."
Liz (47:15): "Make sure you're subscribed so you never miss an episode. And if you enjoyed riding with us, tell everybody you know there's room in the car for everyone."

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Notable Quotes:

• Liz (02:50): "You need to have one welcome cocktail or champagne because it was too hard."
• Kelly (04:54): "It smacked."
• Liz (05:05): "I do feel as though a chocolate dessert is necessary."
• Liz (09:03): "Don't delay the joy. It's the holidays."
• Kelly (16:38): "Didn't know that was gonna be the most controversial thing I've ever posted about."
• Liz (25:03): "I hate adults buying other presents for each other in that capacity."
• Liz (34:39): "It's the hot tea going on on the auto industry."
• Kelly (38:05): "I’m going to choose NHTSA because it's not that hard."

This episode of The Carpool with Kelly and Lizz offers a blend of personal stories, practical advice, industry insights, and festive cheer, making it a valuable listen for moms navigating the holiday season while managing family and work life.

Transcript

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[Kelly]

Welcome to the Carpool podcast with Kelly.

[Liz]

And I typed out like ladies holiday party. And I'm like, well, we're not ladies. Like that's. I'm a child. Like, I can't say that. So I typed in girls holiday party. I'm like, well, not a girl.

[Kelly]

And Liz, if I influenced you to make chicken or bone broth hot chocolate and it tasted like chocolatey chicken, I'm very sorry that that happened to you. Your mom Time off starts now.

[Liz]

Welcome back to the carpool podcast with.

[Kelly]

Kelly and Liz Les Cow. Oh, I thought you were frozen there for a second. You, like did not move. What's up girl?

[Liz]

Well, we're recording this. It's post Thanksgiving. So like you did. I don't know if you guys caught onto it, but like we actually, actually Thanksgiving had not passed on Tuesday's episodes, but it has now passed on today's episode so for most of you, we're a week out from Thanksgiving. For Elizabeth and I, we're just a day out.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

From Truly. I think Chris pulled off one of the most iconic Thanksgivings to date.

[Kelly]

I told her this morning, I said, no notes. She said, no notes.

[Liz]

She said, I had notes.

[Kelly]

I have no notes.

[Liz]

I had notes.

[Kelly]

What are your notes?

[Liz]

For the most part, really a good Thanksgiving. My notes were when you have to have. And you guys know, like, our family just takes this. Even though it's just literally our family, we take it incredibly seriously. I think when people get there, you need to have one welcome cocktail or champagne because it was too hard. Dad's like, what do you want? What do you. And like, Dad's making an espresso martini for one person, like a French 75 for another. And it's just too much on dad. And I'm like, let's have a pitcher of lemon drops or a pitcher of espresso martinis at when everyone gets there. Or you can have champagne if you don't want the cocktail. And then if dad wants to do after dinner drinks and like, make be more of like the bartender, that's fine. But it was just too many dishes before the meal for him to be making all these multiple cocktails. That was my note. So I said have a signature drink when you arrive or champagne. And then after the meal, you can make a cosmo, lemon drop of blood orange, margarita, whatever you want. And that was my note.

[Kelly]

Yeah, I thought it. I thought it went really nicely. The only thing, and this isn't really a note because it's my problem and no one else's, but I just feel like I didn't actually talk to anyone because I just felt like I was having small conversations in between chase chasing Kit, like feeding a baby and chasing a toddler. And I just don't think I was really prepared for that. It's like my first holidays with a toddler because James was, you know.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

Six months last. Last holidays. So that was hard. So I, like, called mom today. I'm like, I feel like I literally didn't talk to you all day. And then, you know, mom's cooking and she's busy and then we sit down to eat and then, you know. But the meal was the best it's ever been. I don't know what was different this year, but I take back what I said about not liking Thanksgiving food. I loved it.

[Liz]

Meal smacked.

[Kelly]

It smacked. And I had a great time.

[Liz]

Oh, my other note was that we did not have a chocolate Dessert. And I do feel as though a chocolate dessert is necessary.

[Kelly]

I would agree. I would second that note. Although Charlotte did make her chocolate chip cookies.

[Liz]

No, of course. But the problem is people treated those as an appetizer. By the time I made my way to the dessert table, they were gone.

[Kelly]

Mm.

[Liz]

Yeah. I just think a sheet cake, a brownie. Like, Sydney had a cheesecake and a pumpkin pie. Both amazing. I like a chocolate nightcap. I also spent the night at mom and dad's house. So, like, I was there. We arrived at 11. We didn't leave till 10am the next day. Like, I was. I was there. I did the things. I had the leftovers for dinner and breakfast the next day. So overall, though, fabulous Thanksgiving. My salad again, star studded. Love plating the salad before. Mainly because, like, I know everyone has to enjoy my dish. And, like, we all sit down and we just eat my salad for a second.

[Kelly]

Your salad was great.

[Liz]

And my salad gets a moment. Yeah, it gets a moment. Yeah. Um. Yeah. And then you left. And then Sydney and I had some cos. My kids were honestly angels. Like, angels. Like, mom had, like, some fun crafts for them and full transparency. We let Fred watch, like an iPad for a while, but so that I could have a great vibe. And I had a Cosmo. Me and Sydney, we talked about online shopping. Real. You know, she has Whole Foods money. She has what? She has. She's got coin. She lives at home and has a great job.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

No expenses.

[Kelly]

No expenses.

[Liz]

And I almost think I'm wondering if it's giving her, like, a false sense of reality. Because I'm like, well, wait till you have expenses probably a little bit.

[Kelly]

But also enjoy it, you know?

[Liz]

Totally.

[Kelly]

She's putting a ton of money in her savings. So she's not blowing through her money. She's just spending what she would be spending on rent, which nowadays is a lot of money per month.

[Liz]

Yeah. And if, like, you just have ever. I think we all went through that. Like, when you.

[Kelly]

If you ever lived at home.

[Liz]

If you lived at home while you were working. Yeah, that's fun.

[Kelly]

It's fun. It's a fun place to be.

[Liz]

And then it's bills. And bills are so not fun.

[Kelly]

Bills are so not fun.

[Liz]

I know.

[Kelly]

Hate them. What's the deal?

[Liz]

I know.

[Kelly]

What's the deal?

[Liz]

What's the deal with the bill? What's your least favorite bill to pay?

[Kelly]

Like, medical bills.

[Liz]

Totally.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

Literally. Totally.

[Kelly]

Yeah, definitely.

[Liz]

Because you're like, what do I buy, a plane? I have insurance.

[Kelly]

Yeah. And it's always this. It's always just like, oh, three. $300. And I'm like, what was this for? Especially when you're, like, going to all your OB appointments and you're getting your ultrasounds and you're doing all that stuff. I just feel like we get. We have a lot more medical bills right now than ever before, and they're so annoying.

[Liz]

Well, I just. I tell you, I don't. I hate every time I'll pay a medical bill and then, like, I'll get a check back for 45, because then they had the numbers wrong. Which I appreciate the check back. I really do, but get it together.

[Kelly]

I know.

[Liz]

Get it together.

[Kelly]

I know.

[Liz]

Yeah. Medical bills are the worst.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

Second worst is, like, to me, like, insurance. I don't mind the house bills as much.

[Kelly]

Well, the house bills.

[Liz]

I see what I'm using. I see that, you know. Yeah. The heat was on. Like, I get it. That was more. Yeah. You know, the water was what it was. But to pay for inch insurance is just such, like a. It's like something that exists in, like, imagination land.

[Kelly]

Yeah. I'm like, what am I. I don't see what I'm paying for.

[Liz]

And, like, we have, like, a life insurance policy for Tyler and I for each other, and it's just like. That's, like, weird thing to, like, throw money at every year.

[Kelly]

Yeah, that's so true.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

Anyway.

[Liz]

Anyway.

[Kelly]

But what do we have on today's episode? I'm so happy you asked.

[Liz]

General banter.

[Kelly]

General banter. We have some advice questions. We have industry news. We have just a drive through. Is there anything else classic.

[Liz]

No, classic December stuff. I'm really excited for December.

[Kelly]

Same.

[Liz]

Here's my December advice. I talked about this last year, but don't delay the joy. You know, if you've got a hot chocolate bomb, do it today. The whole month of December is so magical to me. December is the epitome of. It's not the destination, it's the journey. It's the journey. It's the journey through December.

[Kelly]

Totally.

[Liz]

And remember what mom says, it's the holidays.

[Kelly]

It's the holidays. It's holidays.

[Liz]

It's just. There's no. Everything's just, you know, it's va, va voom.

[Kelly]

It's go all out. It's spread the joy, don't delay the joy. It's the holidays.

[Liz]

It's the holidays.

[Kelly]

That's the only excuse you need to do literally anything.

[Liz]

And, you know, wear a red lip. You know, wear something you normally wouldn't because just. It's a holiday.

[Kelly]

Pop that champagne that you've been holding on to. It's the holidays.

[Liz]

That's a mom. Like, literally, if you see our mother out and about, she'll be. She's just full glam to run to the store.

[Kelly]

She's full glam. Always. She's always. She's always in sequence.

[Liz]

The month of December.

[Kelly]

The month of December. Because it's the holidays. And that's how she says it for some reason.

[Liz]

It's so funny.

[Kelly]

It's so funny.

[Liz]

So funny. I'm actually having quite the. It's a holidays moment because I'm throwing like a party at my house.

[Kelly]

I know. And I'm not going. I'm so sorry.

[Liz]

Yeah, I just wanted to do a little like girls vibe.

[Kelly]

Like love a girl.

[Liz]

Love a girls girls day. A girls night with some of like my friends who live around here. It's a 6 to 8:30. I feel it's important to put an end time totally on the invitation.

[Kelly]

Totally. And you know what? As, as someone who attends parties, I prefer to know an end time.

[Liz]

Yeah. It's not a. Like I especially, especially when you have a party at your house. Like, no, my kids are gonna have to go to sleep and you people are gonna have to leave. So like it's a 6 to 8:30.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

And that's plenty of time because here's the party. And also I realized I made it 6 to 8:30 and I'm not including dinner. But do you think that's okay? I don't think people are expecting dinner. I'll have no, like light apps.

[Kelly]

I think it's fine.

[Liz]

Do you think I need light apps or heavy apps?

[Kelly]

No, sorry. I think you need heavy apps.

[Liz]

You think I need heavy apps? Okay.

[Kelly]

I think we need like a good charcuterie board and like maybe like a. Like a crock pot dip of some sort.

[Liz]

It's just so hard when I'm trying to have like a ladies not. Okay, first of all, I was making the invitation. This is a really important question. I was making the invitation and I wanted to let me be clear. I just texted a picture of an invitation. Don't think I printed out invitations. Yeah, I just made it on canva, downloaded on my phone and texted it to people. But I. It's a girls. It's for. Only for women. It's a women's health. It's just like I'm inviting my friends and it's no kids and it's no husbands. Okay. And I typed out like ladies holiday party and I'm like, well, we're not ladies. Like, that's. I'm. I'm a child. Like, I can't say that. So I typed in girls, holiday party. I'm like, well, I'm not a girl.

[Kelly]

What am I think, Kelly, unfortunately, I think you're a lady.

[Liz]

You fear.

[Kelly]

I fear. I hate to say, but I think you're a lady.

[Liz]

So then I thought, is it Mom's holiday party?

[Kelly]

Yeah, I think. Yeah, Mom's works as well.

[Liz]

But I wanted to be clear. Your kids weren't invited.

[Kelly]

I don't know why you're so hung up on ladies.

[Liz]

I didn't do it. So I just said holiday party. And then when I texted people, I said, no kids or husbands. I didn't even say a word.

[Kelly]

Okay.

[Liz]

So anyway, I think you could have.

[Kelly]

Said moms or ladies, and it would have been fine.

[Liz]

Mm. Mm. Okay.

[Kelly]

I mean, we're in our 30s. I'm almost in my 30s.

[Liz]

Well, it's just like a small, little quaint to get together. And we're gonna. I'm gonna have heavy apps. Apparently, I'll have to have a cocktail and champagne. Those are your only options, because I've learned. I learned that from Thanksgiving. And then we're going to play Rob your neighbor. Everyone brings their favorite beauty product, because beauty products, it's universal. It's one size fits all. I mean, don't bring, like, a foundation in your shade. That'd be weird. But a lip gloss, you know, a blush you love, like a hairspray or something. A roll on perfume. You bring your favorite beauty product, and we play Rob youb Neighbor. And then at the end, everyone, I'm going to get anyone to get, like, a Santa bag. And I'm just going to give everyone some random PR that I've collected throughout the year.

[Kelly]

Love it.

[Liz]

I just have a drawer. One thing about Influencer is the. The pr. The only PR I seem to get is, like, by startup, no offense, sketchy skincare companies.

[Kelly]

So you're going to give those to your guests? Yeah, It's a door prize. It's a door prize. Now.

[Liz]

Some are good.

[Kelly]

Some for sure.

[Liz]

Some are good. Some's a Tula. Some is, like, you know, I probably have, like, an extra dibs brush laying around.

[Kelly]

Some of it's good.

[Liz]

Some of it is. How do you pronounce this? I have no idea. Have you used this? No, I haven't used it. I'm also not skincare. And if you've noticed, like, I've rarely ever talked about, like, skincare products. On my Instagram, because that's just such a hard thing to, like, sell to someone. Because I feel like I wouldn't. I don't even know if it works. I would need to do it for, like, six months.

[Kelly]

And, like, everyone has different skin types, and it's so expensive. And, like, if I were to suggest you get something just because it works really well for me and it didn't work for, like, I just. I. Yeah, I agree.

[Liz]

Yeah, you.

[Kelly]

We don't really. Also, if you. We haven't really had skin care journeys. Like, if you are someone who has notoriously dry skin, like, you've tried everything. This stuff works. Like, go trust that person totally. You know, not. We don't.

[Liz]

I don't have. Yeah, I don't also, like, wash my face. All that. I'll say it out loud. I don't wash my face all that consistently.

[Kelly]

Well, you just discovered washcloths this year.

[Liz]

Well, because of my tubing mascara. Now on days I put tubing mascara on, I've got to do a regimen, a routine. So anyway, all that to say is, that's what you expect at my holiday party. So I need to work on the menu. Heavy apps. It just feels weird to do, like, a crock pot full of meatballs for, like, a ladies night. Like, I'm gonna probably wear, like, a. Like, sequins. I'm gonna have a crock pot full of meatballs.

[Kelly]

Crock pot full of meatballs is great. I mean, at the end of the day, like, what are you gonna do? Cucumber sandwiches? Like, no. Like, give the girls what the girls want.

[Liz]

Okay, well, I'm for sure gonna do a cheese board. The question is, do I make it or do I just order one? The thing is, you price it out six ways to Sunday. It's about the same price. It is not like I'm saving $100 by making it myself. And it's like, crap.

[Kelly]

Yeah. You've got to put a price on your time as well.

[Liz]

And my execution.

[Kelly]

And your execution. Okay, for you, I would order it. Yeah, for me, I would order it. That's not. That's not really where we thrive. No.

[Liz]

Charcuterie boards are hard to make.

[Kelly]

They are hard to make.

[Liz]

I would just get such decision fatigue sitting in, like, the refrigerator section of a grocery store trying to comb through artisan cheeses. That sounds just tough.

[Kelly]

Not the vibe.

[Liz]

Okay, so I'll do that. Maybe I'll do some sort of crock pot protein or some sort of protein. And then what cocktail should I do? I Think champagne's fun.

[Kelly]

Champagne and cosmos. It's a holiday, but it's the holiday, guys. And this is the perfect example. If it's the holidays, Cosmo's on a Monday.

[Liz]

It's the holidays.

[Kelly]

It's the holidays. It's December.

[Liz]

Okay, well, anyway, this is your sign to have a holiday party. Don't delay your joy. You know, wear a red lip. Wear a sequin.

[Kelly]

Absolutely. Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. Kelly, I think we need to address some drama, and that's drama surrounding bone broth hot chocolate.

[Liz]

Wow.

[Kelly]

Didn't know that was gonna be the most controversial thing I've ever posted about.

[Liz]

Liz and I both. First of all, I was influenced by my sister and to make bone broth hot chocolate. I gave it a whirl one day, and I was like, oh, this is pretty good. I don't taste the bone broth.

[Kelly]

Yes.

[Liz]

So I posted it, and I literally said it, guys, it doesn't taste like chicken. I would never tell people it tasted like chicken. Which I literally stand by that for sure.

[Kelly]

I would never drink something in the. I would never drink. I'm not that desperate to drink broth that I would. That I would endure a chicken chocolate flavor. Like, I would just drink it plain, you know, now if I was that desperate.

[Liz]

But apparently, a lot of our followers, a lot of our listeners have tried it, and they've had different experiences, and they've had chocolate chicken vibes.

[Kelly]

Okay, I have a couple of things to say. Number one, if I influenced you to make chicken or bone broth hot chocolate, and it tasted like chocolatey chicken, I'm very sorry that that happened to you. I'm sincerely. I feel as though it was my fault, and I'm so sorry that you had to experience that. That was not my experience, however, and I need you to know from the bottom of my heart, I would have not told you to do it if I had experienced anything chocolatey related. Now, here's the other thing I want to say. People are saying, I taste the chicken, I taste the onion. Okay? So out of, you know, science at this point, I go and I. Someone else said they could smell the onion. So I went and I smelled my bone broth that I bought straight. Doesn't smell like anything. Doesn't smell like onions, hardly smells like chicken. Doesn't really smell like anything. Tasted it, very subtle. It. It doesn't have a lot of flavor. And so now I'm thinking. I think that the brand that you get matters. So I got the Trader Joe's chicken chicken bone Broth, which was in the refrigerated section. Someone else said they got that one and they did not taste the chicken. And then I got the full circle beef bone broth. Now, I think we all need to just, like, go check in our refrigerator really quick and make sure we're getting chicken bone broth, not chicken broth and not chicken stock. Chicken bone broth. It has to be the bone broth, because I don't know how it's going so wrong.

[Liz]

Well, and now I'm wondering. It's a good point. Now, I don't remember the brands I had. I don't. I do know I had bone broth. I'm wondering if it's like a cilantro effect where some of us are gonna taste it and some of us just aren't.

[Kelly]

Oh, this is what I was thinking. That reminds me. Not cilantro effect, because I don't know what you're talking about. But it's the blue and black dress versus green versus the.

[Liz]

Do you not know about the cilantro effect?

[Kelly]

I don't know what cilantro effect is.

[Liz]

Do you like cilantro?

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

Okay. About half the population think cilantro tastes like soap. Like, they taste so.

[Kelly]

Okay, so maybe it's okay. So here's what I want to do. I want. Because if I tell Maddie I'm giving him bone broth, hot chocolate, he'll be like, absolutely, I'm not drinking that. I'm going to give it to him. I'm going to taste it, and I will not taste anything. And then I'm going to give it to him and see if he tastes it. Because he's. He has a quite the refined palate.

[Liz]

Okay, well, let us know. Now, some positives that came out of that thread were one, if you have leftover broth, stock or bone broth, so many soup options, use it for your soup sundae. It will not go to waste. So at the end of the day, you're out in uncomfortable taste. But it's going to be fine. We'll make, you know, make.

[Kelly]

We wasted a cup, you know.

[Liz]

Yeah, make a soup. Secondly, some hacks have come out now. Of course, if you want hot chocolate, go off queen, make hot chocolate. But if you want, like a higher protein version, a lot of people are saying you can just heat up the fair life protein chocolate milk chocolate for a high protein, which I see how that's also an option. So something. Go ahead.

[Kelly]

I have another protein hack, because what I did was I have the clean, simple eats marshmallow protein powder. So I mixed that in my bone broth hot chocolate. So I got like even more protein in it and it was really nice. And I think that you don't, you don't have to get the marshmallow one. It's just what I had. But I think you could also add like some chocolate protein powder or vanilla protein powder. Yeah. To regular hot chocolate.

[Liz]

Love it. Love it. So.

[Kelly]

And if you don't get. So sorry. No.

[Liz]

And like, my new advice is just don't make it because I can't live. I can't put on my conscious that people are trying like that 50% of people are going to try and not like it. So officially don't try it. That's my new stance. It's not worth you hating me for.

[Kelly]

No, it's not worth it. And also if you're saying I had to doctor it up so much to be able to even drink it, don't drink it. You should not have to doctor it up at all. Like, I just, I can't explain it, guys. I'm so sorry.

[Liz]

And maybe that's us having a non refined palate. I don't know. Maybe we can't taste the notes and other people can taste. That's it.

[Kelly]

Maybe, maybe that's what it is. I don't know.

[Liz]

But new stance. If you haven't made it, don't make it. If you have made it. I'm sorry, Make a chicken or make.

[Kelly]

If you have also please go check and make sure you got bone. Like I want to. I want you to po. If you tried it and you still have the broth, take a photo and post in that thread. Like, I want to see what brands you're getting. I'm so confused. And then I want to go buy the brand and try and make it.

[Liz]

Totally.

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[Kelly]

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[Liz]

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[Kelly]

Okay, we have some in law holiday questions with or question one question. I love these kinds of questions.

[Liz]

Same.

[Kelly]

So hey gals. I'll get right into it. My husband has three brothers, two of which are married. One adult niece and one just welcomed a baby. We had our first baby back in the spring. With Christmas coming up, I've suggested multiple times we do a Secret Santa with the siblings. Since the family has been growing and it's so expensive to buy everyone a present, one of my brother in law is a single one agrees but everyone else is against it. Both my mother in law and father in law have more or less said if you want to get someone something then do it, but if you don't want to, that's okay too. That doesn't sit well with me because if I buy one person something, I'm a jerk for singling out someone or not getting them something basically. Do you guys have any ideas on how to approach this? I see this becoming a bigger issue as time goes on and the family continues to grow. I love my in laws but his family isn't great with boundary setting which has sort of been a point of contention with them in the past. So I'm trying to tread lightly.

[Liz]

I. I agree with you. I'm sorry, I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this because I've already been canceled from the hot chocolate incident. I hate adults buying other presents for each other in that capacity. I like the Secret Santa. I thought of you, you thought of me. That was fun. Just to swap 50 purchases though is the most insane Thing to me ever. It really is to me. That's insane. Not the reason for the season, if you will.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

So I don't like that. I agree with you. I think you did your part. You tried to bring it up. I think you can't do anything else. And I think you have to buy gifts for everybody because I agree you'll look like an ass if you don't.

[Kelly]

Well, here's what I was kind of thinking is maybe. Okay, so maybe they're not on board with maybe this. The brother, the, the sibling in laws aren't on board for the secret Santa. Get with them though and say, hey, let's all throw $20 to a gift card or to a gift for the mother in law and father in law. And then maybe you're not spending 50 bucks on them, you're spending 20 bucks on them. And then you combine it and then maybe you can kind of start there and then they can slowly like move out. I think you should. I agree. I think that they should do a Secret Santa amongst the siblings. That's how we do it is we do a secret Santa. Monica.

[Liz]

Wait. But that's what she's saying. So the in laws are the. Her mother.

[Kelly]

I know. So her. So yeah. Her mother in law wouldn't be in the Secret Santa.

[Liz]

No. I disagree with you. I think you, I think you should get your mother in law a present yourself. I think mother in laws you buy presents for.

[Kelly]

Okay.

[Liz]

I don't think you buy presents for siblings. And I think that's the crazy part of the story.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

For every sibling and their wife. Like that's so annoying. That's.

[Kelly]

Or you just don't buy anyone a gift and you say, okay, well, I didn't feel like buying anyone like you. Here's the thing, anytime it's the in laws, it's not your problem to solve. It's your husband's problem to solve.

[Liz]

Oh, interesting.

[Kelly]

I think so. I mean, she's brought it up a couple of times. And if isn't going anywhere, then her, her husband needs to like sit down with his brothers and be like, hey guys, this is how we're doing it. We're not gonna buy everyone gifts. So we're gonna do secrets. Like your husband needs to take the lead on this.

[Liz]

Yeah. And you tell husband, hey, I'm not buying gifts. So if you wanna buy gifts for everybody, go off. But I'm not doing it.

[Kelly]

I'm not taking up. It's not gonna be on my hands.

[Liz]

Your husband won't. So then you Know, Jennifer, your sister will be mad for a minute, but you.

[Kelly]

But you've tr.

[Liz]

If you've Cosmo.

[Kelly]

If you've tried to suggest the Secret Santa and they're not going in that direction, then like, this is the only.

[Liz]

Yeah, disgusting.

[Kelly]

This is the only logical place to go. Okay, I don't know if that was helpful or not, but maybe buy her.

[Liz]

All the ingredients to make bone broth, hot chocolate.

[Kelly]

Yeah, that could be fun. And then maybe she'll be like.

[Liz]

And get her stock.

[Kelly]

I don't really want to get any more gifts from her anymore. Let's do Secret Santa. Okay, here's the next question. Hey, Kelly and Liz. Buyer's remorse. Advice is the subject. Hey, Kelly and Liz. After outgrowing our Volkswagen Atlas, we car shopped for months and finally bought a 2019 Suburban Premier. This summer. With our trade in and savings, we're fortunate to not have a car payment. It's got all the bells and whistles, great. And great mileage, slash well cared for, et cetera, but it still drives like a land yacht. And I get worse mileage in town than I was expecting. Even with thorough research, I can't help but wonder if I made a mistake and should have bought a Honda Odyssey or Kia Carnival instead. Should we think about trading it in for a Minivan? We have three boys, 7, 5 and 2. The older two play hockey, so trunk space is important, but our long road trips are infrequent. Maybe once or twice a year. Would love to hear your thoughts. Should I set my pride aside and trade it in for the magic slide and sliding doors? Or be content with our paid off mini bus? Probably worth around 40k if we trade it in.

[Liz]

Sorry, what's her car?

[Kelly]

She has a 2019 Suburban that she bought. That she bought. It's got all the bells and whistles.

[Liz]

It's very recently.

[Kelly]

She bought it this summer.

[Liz]

Okay. But it's paid off.

[Kelly]

But yeah, they don't have a car payment.

[Liz]

Here's. So here's. Here's the thing. Yeah. You could trade it in and get a nice used minivan for yourself. Maybe even probably a used minivan. Like a slightly used minivan. The only thing you'll really be out, quote unquote out, is you'll have to pay sales tax now on the minivan. Oh, well, hold on. Depending on your state, you may only have to pay sales tax on the difference. If it's paid off. Yeah, go for it.

[Kelly]

No reason to not do it.

[Liz]

No, because I think that you'll be able to get one for less. Do you think she'd be.

[Kelly]

Do you think that with the kids set up and everything and the hockey gear and all that stuff, you think that the minivan is going to be a good move for her?

[Liz]

I think that it will, yes. I think it will give you similar space to the Suburban. I think I understand the term land yacht. They are better driving cars than a minivan. I mean, minivans don't have the best acceleration.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

So, you know, you're kind of trading like one thing, you know, one flaw. Not flaw, but like one con for another con. But I mean, I sympathize with you on the gas mileage. I don't know. You're not gonna get. Unless you get the hybrid minivan, which you're never going to find for that, like equal trade, you know, don't get 2018 to 2021 on a minivan. So you're not going to get 36, maybe a little more, but yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm okay with her trading at. Now you're going to pay tax, title and license fees again on your state. You might have to pay sales tax again, you know, and it might just give you brain damage because, I mean, I don't know what you bought the Suburban for versus, like what it's worth now, you know, so. But if it's like, if it depreciated in value, like six grand and you only drove for three months or two months, like, that might hurt.

[Kelly]

Yeah. So. Worth going down the rabbit hole to.

[Liz]

I'm, I'm. I'm approving the rabbit hole.

[Kelly]

Okay. A rabbit hole approved.

[Liz]

Rabbit hole approved only. And then I think the other reasons are personal. But yeah, it's so hard because, like, I don't always like to stand. I like the whole point of this platform is like, to empower moms and women's moms. And women.

[Kelly]

Moms and ladies.

[Liz]

Ladies and girls, if you will.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

During the car buying process. So, like, you're not gonna hear me tell a mom that she's wrong and she doesn't like how it drives. To me, that's. If you don't like how it drives, like, okay, that's enough of a reason. Like, I'm gonna be the one who listens to you and who tries to. I'm going to tell you your options. Like, tell you, you know, maybe my opinion. But at the end of the day, like, if you want to get a new car, like, I'm not going to be. I'm not going to mansplain to you how it's a bad idea. Like, that's not what I do here.

[Kelly]

Okay?

[Liz]

So go off, girl.

[Kelly]

Go off. Go off, lady. Okay. That was all. I can pull up more advice questions. Unless you want to get on. I do have a random fact, though.

[Liz]

Oh, hit us.

[Kelly]

So I just googled, like, a random fact about, like, December. I was kind of curious. Seems timely. And I found this one that I found interesting about artificial Christmas trees. And it talks about what? The first artificial Christmas tree. The first artificial Christmas tree was made in Germany in the 19th century from Goose feathers. Dyed green goose. Wouldn't that actually be kind of pretty? Like a feathered Christmas tree?

[Liz]

Yeah, it sounds really pretty. It sounds really pretty. I thought that was. And did you know how many feathers the average turkey has?

[Kelly]

Oh, who brought this to us? Was this Lizzie? What'd she say, 5,000?

[Liz]

5,000.

[Kelly]

5,000. Yeah.

[Liz]

So, you know, if you think however many a goose has.

[Kelly]

So I can wonder how many geese they needed to make an artificial Christmas tree.

[Liz]

Mm. Mm.

[Kelly]

Begs the question, speaking of Christmas tree.

[Liz]

And Thanksgiving and turkeys, did you. I just wanted to, like, give a little shout out because I don't think I've talked about it in a while, but I am the Detroit Lions fan now.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

And it's a good year to be a Lions fan because they. Yeah, they've had 11 wins, only one losses. Like, they're probably gonna go to the Super Bowl.

[Kelly]

Did you just Google that?

[Liz]

No, I would. They play on Thanksgiving. First of all, they were the original. Want to play on Thanksgiving? The Lions. My team.

[Kelly]

Your team.

[Liz]

And they won on Thanksgiving. I was cheering.

[Kelly]

Oh.

[Liz]

And did you know the. Now, this isn't Lions related, but this is another fact that's football related. So anyway, shout out, Lions. I have joined. If you guys also, just, like, want to pick a random football team to start rooting for if you don't have one in your state or your city. Lions. We accept everyone.

[Kelly]

We. You're one of them now.

[Liz]

What is the only team in the NFL who doesn't have cheerleaders? Never has.

[Kelly]

I have no idea.

[Liz]

The Steelers.

[Kelly]

The Steelers.

[Liz]

I just could call.

[Kelly]

Why don't they?

[Liz]

I don't know. It just could come up on a trivia night.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

Those were three facts we just gave.

[Kelly]

That was a lot. I liked the. I liked them.

[Liz]

And now is the time for industry news, where I spill the hot tea going on the auto industry.

[Kelly]

It sure is.

[Liz]

Okay, literally, pull up your hot chocolate bone broth because this is interesting. I had to send it to Liz Because I wasn't exactly sure I had it like I was reading it correctly, but I fear as though I was. So the headline from the Detroit News, home of the Lions, feds reject auto industry plea and they keep automatic emergency braking rule intact. Now, there is a new federal regulation that's requiring automakers to install automatic emergency braking technology in all new vehicles by 2029. And there, then there was like, talk about, like, are they. Will they, won't they? And they said they will. Despite complaints from the auto industry, NHTSA said on Monday it would make minor changes to the automatic emergency braking rule, which finalized in April, but preserve its most important tenets. Safety groups cheered the move. Now, this sounds like a win win, right? So basically, nits is like, hey, automakers, you have to include automatic emergency braking on all your cars. They did this back in 2016 with backup cameras. So all cars 17 and newer are required to have backup cameras. So to me, this is like, yeah. And every, first of all, every car manufacturer has the technology. So, like, what they're really doing is some of them are putting it behind paywalls of trim level or by models.

[Kelly]

Mm.

[Liz]

Now, the automakers aren't happy about this, which is giving ick. First of all, NHTSA says the AEB saves lives and prevents crashes. The auto industry is calling it practically impossible. And they're all mad because it's. They say it's a really disastrous decision by the nation's top safety regulator that will endlessly and unnecessarily frustrate drivers, make vehicles more expensive, and at the end of the day, won't really improve driver or pedestrian safety. Which. Okay.

[Kelly]

Okay, sure.

[Liz]

NHTSA says this new requirement will say live. Will save lives, at least 360 lives a year and prevent at least 24,000 injuries a year. So the auto manufacturers are saying no. The frustrated drivers. If you've ever been in a car with automatic emergency braking, let's be honest, one time it went off and it wasn't supposed to.

[Kelly]

Mm.

[Liz]

And it gave you a spook.

[Kelly]

Mm.

[Liz]

Several times it's gone off and saved your life. Most likely.

[Kelly]

Yeah. So third thing, you will get used to it.

[Liz]

You will get used to it. You'll get used to it.

[Kelly]

Like, okay, you're frustrated for a moment, but you just maybe avoided a car accident.

[Liz]

Now, will it make cars more expensive? Well, it wouldn't if it would just make you have less profit automakers.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

So that you look stupid for saying that.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

And sorry. I trust nhtsa. It's just really hard to Trust the people benefiting financially off not doing it.

[Kelly]

Mm. Yeah. So.

[Liz]

But NHTSA said too bad. So sad. We're not. You're doing it now.

[Kelly]

That's so icky on the like when they're saying the automakers are saying this, who is speaking for them?

[Liz]

They're not named. Oh. So hold on. Let me tell you, let me tell you. The alliance of Automotive Innovation, which represents all US Automakers except Tesla, has already asked President elect Donald Trump to re examine the rule.

[Kelly]

This is like not a good look.

[Liz]

And then the guy says this is John's. The president and CEO of the alliance said, what a waste. A 10 year partnership with policymakers that put the life saving automotive technology in almost all new cars was just tossed aside. See, I don't really know what that means because he's like trying to act like. So I think, you know, sometimes when they have these policies come out, there's other things like buried within it. So you just never know.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

But then he's the one who said it's a really disastrous decision by the nation's top traffic safety regulator that will endlessly and unnecessarily frustrate drivers, make vehicles more expensive and won't really improve it. Said the lobbying group is telling NHTSA that it's vastly underestimates the com the compliance cost for automakers and warned that the regulations require warn that the regulations require automatic braking will occur far too in advance of what drivers typically are used to, which would likely cause more collisions. So I guess NHTSA is also saying like you have to change like the current one that's in it. Like it's not up to snuff and the manufacturers are like, no, that would be crazy. So it's hard to know whose side to be on. But I'm going to choose NHTSA because it's not that hard.

[Kelly]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to choose a side of people who are studying safety and not.

[Liz]

The people who are making the money.

[Kelly]

Correct. Just if I had to pick a side.

[Liz]

I'm interested to hear the IHS take on this. Because nits is government funded. So is independent.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

So I just like wonder what they would say. But Consumer Reports, there's a quote in here of Consumer Reports but you know, therefore things like that.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

And that's the hot tea going on on the auto industry.

[Kelly]

It is hot. He will have to keep an eye on it.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

Okay, Keller, you ready for dish to drive through where we give you an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get you out of your dinner rut?

[Liz]

I am.

[Kelly]

I think we both have one.

[Liz]

Well, I decided to start a new tradition because, you know, it's the holidays always. The thing is, I love pizza. Who doesn't love a pizza night? And I want to make my own pizza dough because it doesn't seem that hard. I haven't, like, dabbled in the sourdough world like you yet, you know, when something calls for yeast in the recipe, I tend to run the other way. But I said, you know what? This is three freaking ingredients. Like, surely I can do this. And I think, like, homemade pizza dough tastes so much better. So I made some. And here's what I learned. Kind of a royal pia, to be honest.

[Kelly]

Really.

[Liz]

I just, you know, once flour's on the counter, it's just. It just just feels annoying. And it's very much the thing. I mean, there's one thing to bake with flour. There's another thing when they go put flour on your counter. Like, that's like when a recipe tells you to chop an onion. Like, sometimes you just roll your eyes and run the other way. Now I will do it again. I will get better at it. Maybe I need to invest in like some nice parchment paper to. For easier cleanup. But I think the hack is you can buy like Trader Joe's for a dollar 99 sells pizza dough.

[Kelly]

Yes, they do. And it's also very good. And I just think the thing with a homemade pizza night is it is so a. Choose your own adventure and choose your. Choose your level. You can go easy, you can go hard. Yeah. You can make your own pizza dough. You can, you can buy just like pita or non bread. You can buy a frozen pizza if you want. You can really do. Do the most or do the least. I kind of like to meet somewhere in the middle and I will get like a naan bread and just do the marinara and the cheese and air fry it. That's kind of usually. That's usually my go to for a homemade pizza night. But I do want to try and make my own sourdough crust because I have heard it's very easy, but I'm not there yet.

[Liz]

Okay, well, I think you should try that. And I'm with Liz. I think. I think you can. You can do the most, you can do the least. My advice, take it for what it's worth because you know, I hate. I'm now I'm wary to recommend, but it was a fun thing to try to accomplish. Even bad pizza dough, even a bad pizza is still good. Like my dough wasn't great. A little chewy.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

Still good. Yeah, we ate it all.

[Kelly]

Have a. Have a backup frozen pizza in the freezer.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

And that's something that I want to say for the holidays is, you know, you've got parties, you've got places to be, you've got meals to prepare, and it's just really, really important this time of year that you have frozen pizzas in your freezer. Because there will come a night.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

Where you're burnt out and you have nothing else.

[Liz]

And our thagus have run out and.

[Kelly]

Our thawgas have run out and the grocery store is insane. So stock up on your frozen pizzas. This is my. I posted this on my story the other day. This is my dish to drive through. It is such my true ditch the drive thru. It is like when I've been home alone all day with both kids. I have cleaned the kitchen 80 times. I don't want to do dishes, but I also don't want to go out. And I know my husband and my son will devour it. And that is Trader Joe's orange chicken with rice. It is so good. It's so easy to make. You put it on. I buy two bags for me, Maddie and James because James will legit eat an entire bag, put it all in a pan, bake it at 350 or 400 for 20 minutes, put the sauce on top, microwave your rice.

[Liz]

Yeah. See, I think I need to make a Trader Joe's haul before the holidays. The freezer. Specifically the freezer section. Because, yeah, I. The. I don't have time to do freezer meals. I'm too busy. I don't have the time now that I had back in August. I have time. I don't. So I need pizza night equivalents, you.

[Kelly]

Know, And Trader Joe's orange chicken is just as easy as popping a pizza in the. A frozen pizza in the oven.

[Liz]

Truly, that's a good idea. I'm gonna go make a Trader Joe's. I'm just gonna. I just live. I can't tell you. I live so far from one now. And if they're so un. I'm sorry I said this before, but if you live in St. Louis, they are in the. They're so unconveniently located to me.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

There's just not one in my route.

[Kelly]

Yeah, there is one in my route.

[Liz]

I know.

[Kelly]

It's a blessing. Well, and that's it.

[Liz]

But I have farm fresh eggs.

[Kelly]

But you have farm fresh eggs.

[Liz]

I have eggs today.

[Kelly]

You have 11 acres. You don't get to have 11 acres of land. And also Trader Joe's nearby.

[Liz]

Not for less than millions of dollars.

[Kelly]

No, not for less than millions of millions. So.

[Liz]

No, no.

[Kelly]

You know, we all give up. We all give up different things.

[Liz]

Speaking of a December to remember sales event, the hay bale. You need a hay bale.

[Kelly]

What are we going to do with the hay bale?

[Liz]

We're doing Rudolph.

[Kelly]

Great idea. Excellent. Love it.

[Liz]

Yep, yep, yep, yep. Now we were just gonna spray paint eyes and a red nose on him and then find branches for antlers, but Tyler was like, what if I just made it like he did the turkey?

[Kelly]

And absolutely.

[Liz]

Then I'm like, tell her. Then you're done. Then you're done.

[Kelly]

Then you're done.

[Liz]

Then you never have to do this again. Then every year we just take the wooden eyes, the wooden nose, the wooden antlers and put it on our hay bale.

[Kelly]

One and done.

[Liz]

Take the turkey off, put the roof, put Rudolph on.

[Kelly]

Done.

[Liz]

I know. Yeah, I'm like really proud of him.

[Kelly]

Yeah, I'm proud of him too.

[Liz]

And I think he's enjoying like the. It's like been a good, like creative, artistic outlet for him.

[Kelly]

The turkey, every time I see it, I am just like, this is not my sister's house like any free handed it. I find it so hard, like just knowing who you are like deep to your core just to like see you have like any Christmas decoration out or anything like that. It's just, it's so not who you've ever been. And so when I pull up to your house, I'm like, this is Kelly's house. They have this, they have this giant turkey and it looks amazing.

[Liz]

Well, we've done a lot of work on our house and you know, we're trying to like, we're trying to give it some. Our friends drive by our house. You know what I mean? We're not tucked in a neighborhood. Like, they're driving by our house and we wanted to give them something to look at, you know? So Teller mowed the whole field the other day. Like, it looks good, it looks good. So stay tuned. I do think I'm not, I'm not going to be this girl who's like, for Valentine. No, it's over. It's an October through December thing and then it's gone.

[Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then it's. Then it's over.

[Liz]

It's too much. It's fun. For the holidays.

[Kelly]

For the holidays.

[Liz]

For the holidays.

[Kelly]

I love it.

[Liz]

And that's our episode so excited for you.

[Kelly]

And that's our episode, guys. So thank you so much for listening. Happy December, and we'll talk to you next week.

[Liz]

See ya. Thank you for listening to the Carpool.

[Kelly]

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[Liz]

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